❔┃ask-the-community

[boreal zenith]

no. The cast cost of 23 is consumed

I go from 124 to 101 and then it ticks back up

maybe because no enemies are in it?

the sound effect and special effects are being played though

[glad pier]

Thanks !

[boreal zenith]

Even with an enemy that survives the initial hit through the end-explosion, that mana is never consumed

[sterile widget]

Not sure. It could be a bug. If you respec and remove that node, does it change the skill's mana cost displayed on the bar?

If it is a 100% cast chance, the cost may just be folded in to the starting mana cost.

[boreal zenith]

it doesn't go down

maybe it's a bug because I've turned it into the aura that follows me so the whole thing behaves differently

[sterile widget]

🤷

It's possible - you can report a bug using the in-game tool - this is good feedback anyway (if it isn't bugged)

[boreal zenith]

okay so in general though if I see a mana cost in long text it's supposed to consume mana for the effect, even if the effect itself has nothign to do with mana or a cast in any capacity?

[sterile widget]

Yes

[boreal zenith]

appreciate that thank you

[dusky kite]

No, the meta at high levels is still to zoom around maps and all attempts to fix it had been largely unsuccessful so far. Are you judging by like level 5 gameplay based on the "lack of skills" comment?

[icy drift]

A lot of secondary/triggered abilities do not spend their mana cost, and neither do they obey that abilities cooldown/cast speed. Those values are there because 1. Every ability needs to have them (but they could be set to 0 of course) and 2. In case the devs ever want to make a way to cast them that actually obeys those stats, an example is mana storm in mana strike

Skill passive nodes will specify when they actually obey/use the skills cost and/or cooldown, otherwise it's basically always gonna be free and without cooldown in my experience

Items on the other hand don't seem to specify but they rarely DON'T use the abilities cost. Like harbinger of stars and battlemages endeavour.

It's kinda whacky tbh

[clever echo]

anyone got a suggestion on a build/class to go for a new player to the game? maybe something that is hard to die but can still dish out enough damage im not at a boss for hours and easier to gear?

[icy drift]

Prob some kind of sentinel build, would say hammerdin but I'm not sure how good the single target damage is, the clear is really good though

There are also some new rune master builds that are popping off but most need uniques

[dusky kite]

Primalist minion builds other than squirrels\wolves tend to not be too gear-dependent

[boreal zenith]

Timeline stability above the third quest breakpoint only serves as repeat insurance in case you fail the quest node, yes? Making sure there's no point to bring stability to max before completing the quest.

[surreal verge]

The leftovers carry over afaik

[fervent quiver]

Yup, leftovers carry over - you can just keep going and then do the boss echo twice in a row if you want to

[tall wolf]

What is the max stack of maelstrom skill? I'm low level so I don't have enough mana?

[dense root]

pretty sure there is no max

[surreal verge]

No cap for maelstorm

[fierce swan]

That was strange i used an Exalted axe with 69% attack speed to put on my Death's embrace and it gave me 65% reduced bonus taken from critical strike.

[grim ore]

global chat sometimes got bug? its total silent at my pc now

[fierce swan]

its working for me @grim ore

[grim ore]

owh maybe i should restart game...thanks btw

[fierce swan]

no problem 🙂

[sterile bane]

you use global chat?

is fairy tail your fav anime or do you just like Erza?

[fierce swan]

I just like Erza

[surreal verge]

It takes random affixes from the item

[fierce swan]

Yeah it completely screwed up my item build i planned 😦

[zinc anchor]

It takes 1 of the 4 affixes at random, not always the exalted one

[fierce swan]

thanks for the heads up

[broken burrow]

with included seasonal mechanics but 1.0 will not be a move to standard and fresh cycle

@dreamy rock

at least as far as is currently planned

it is possible that there is a catastrophic IT issue with the update to 1.0

[sharp flower]

noob question, throwing doesnt take meele damage into consideration right? most weapon have melee damage implicit

[broken burrow]

as far as i know shadow daggers is the only throwing attack that also has the melee tag but it hase tags THROWING, DEXTERITY, MELEE, PHYSICAL, so you see both tags on it

@sharp flower

[surreal verge]

Correct,so your wep choice is a stat stick

[sterile bane]

@dreamy rock #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message why did you ask this?

That’s an exalted reward

There’s no way to change it. It the color of item not the color of your filter

thats why i said why did you ask this

but why did you ask this? the color of the item corresponds to the game color of the item

so exalted are purple sets are green unique are orange and unique types are multi color.

[broken burrow]

Yes

[sterile bane]

that seems to be obviously yes

this isnt a game that wants to be modded.

[rotund rune]

hey im experimenting with the loot filter at the moment - even if its on it doesnt quite uhm work. I think I might have missed a step or two.

Could anyone point out why I get to see all the loot on the ground?

too many affixes maybe?

[surreal verge]

The loot filter hides nothing by default.

[surreal verge]

(Also, this is all a single rule, which shows.. nothing I think.)

[sterile bane]

you have to make a hide rule

[dense root]

is there a bot command for a loot filter video

there should be

ave can we get a bot command for a loot filter video

[sterile bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXh4KFgaBEU&pp=ygUhaG93IHRvIHVzZSBsb290IGZpbHRlciBsYXN0IGVwb2No

here you go

[rotund rune]

thats embarrassing...

[dense root]

tbf it’s not super obvious

[rotund rune]

technically i copied it, then hidden everything i wanted to be hidden. I think its ok now xD. Ill give it a go

I think it works now, thank you guys!

[sterile bane]

here to help

[steel merlin]

Won't that rule hide uniques that do not have normal affixes?

[faint cape]

Nah, nothing there will hide uniques, although it's definitely a janky setup

[steel merlin]

Oh right there is no hide uniques

[rotund rune]

yeah its my first ever one, jury-rigged with scotch tape and willpower!

technically second after adding the hide rule but you get it

[steel merlin]

The first rule does nothing by the way

[faint cape]

Just keep in mind, for an item to match one of those two rules, it has to match ALL of the conditions you specify in it

So if you cram too much stuff in, you'll end up matching basically nothing, like your first rule

[steel merlin]

The problem with the first rule is that there is nothing hiding uniques sets and exalteds

So they would have shown up anyways

[faint cape]

If you don't include the 'affix' check, it won't look at affixes, and it looks like you just want to include all affixes, so that can get removed

[rotund rune]

its just the idols that i didnt want to exclude, should i limit it to my own class?

[faint cape]

For example, your hide rule is only hiding normal items that have a specific affix (in other words, you will see all normal items because none will match)

[rotund rune]

for now, im kinda happy with collecting everything with better rarity - still nowhere near endgame. I should definitely look into unique, exalted, and sets with certain affixes soon tho

[steel merlin]

No I don't mean that

[faint cape]

Idols are an item type, easier to handle item type stuff through item type conditions

They also aren't normal/magic/rare so you don't have to worry about hiding them that way

[broken burrow]

@rotund rune have you tried making a filter with the tool on last epoch tools. I find it much easier than in game because it's just check boxes

[steel merlin]

At least until you get the basics

Easier to explain then if there's a problem

[rotund rune]

hmm ok ok, ill go tinker with it now. Sorry for being really slow on this. Thank you for taking the time guys!

[sterile bane]

you can also just hide everything below exalted and just know what to look for

know what you are looking for

[broken burrow]

don't apologize, it's complex and we all started somewhere

no worries at all man

[cedar locust]

@hearty stag @candid elm If it's a Unity Crash then we do have a thread that might help! - https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1149711332090851418

It might also be worth doing a clean install of your Graphics Drivers as sometimes there is a corrupt .dll file causing this issue

[cedar locust]

Hi! This post has a few links for making Loot filters that might help! #💬┃general message

[sterile bane]

also not to keep talking in ask dev but cant you click on an echo to see the reward. @dreamy rock

it is silly. which again is why if you click on the echo you can see the reward and modifiers

[mighty ibex]

hello there! did anyone had this issue the all the bosses are invisible?

[faint cape]

I really think the problem would be much less with an echo web search bar. That has been suggested a few times already though, so I won't post it again in that channel, lol. Edit: Actually, now that I remember, I made a suggestion on this a while back to use the echo reward frame shape to reinforce the color. Using identifiable shapes/patterns is always better than just trying to tweak colors for accessibility.

[faint cape]

Usually these kinds of problems are fixed by validating your files on Steam

[mighty ibex]

I will try that cheers

[mighty ibex]

yeeesss thank you it is fixed

[faint cape]

Awesome! 😄

[cedar locust]

It's why we have a sticker for it 😅

Thank you Father Toast!

[tawny osprey]

what is this emote???

[cedar locust]

Verifying your Steam files fixes a surprising amount of issues so I have to say it a lot 😅 Decided to make a Smoky the Bear inspired Sticker for it

[cedar locust]

This is OwObyss, blame @river fulcrum and if you can, find the announcement trailer we made to troll Mike

[river fulcrum]

👉👈

[sterile bane]

@dreamy rock i have to admit you have made me laugh more today than anyone has in a long time. you spent hours doing something because you didnt want to read. thank you

[vale meadow]

just got the game, where do i find like builds online?

[dense root]

last epoch tools

[native sail]

Lastepochtools has a dedicated section that compiles builds from all different sources (other than just... straight up from accounts)

[bright cloud]

anyone can help me find the keybind saved location?

[vale meadow]

what does you reccomend for new players? for example sorc or runemaster

[knotty tinsel]

anything you like

barrier for entry is very very thin

you can do well on anything

[dense root]

almost any mastery will be a good choice yeah

runemaster is generally thought of as being stronger than sorc right now if that matters to you

[knotty tinsel]

it's also a bit more of an acquired style of class so if you don't vibe with it it's not just on you 😄

[acoustic thicket]

Are there any decent DOT builds in the game? (New comer here)

[marsh maple]

there are a lot

what kind you looking for

big aoe

big dam>

qol?

chonk?

what class?

[acoustic thicket]

I guess a balance between single target and aoe?

I don't know how the endgame works. (Coming from POE) like if aoe is better farming than single target bossing

[knotty tinsel]

biggest tip from me if you're coming from POE: defenses aren't just a list of checkboxes. and you'll be puzzling with them as you go, as much or more than how you're doing damage

[acoustic thicket]

So it's not as simple as capping res/spell suppression/stacking armor/block chance/chaos res? What are the defensive layers?

[knotty tinsel]

resistances exist but are less key than in POE (there's no max. res modifiers and being slightly undercapped is not a big deal)

you have a lot more control over what your actual hit pool is depending on your class, with Ward playing a slightly different role for each (design wise, that is... you might see people break this statement all over the place with some clever builds :p )

there's no "odd one out" resistance like chaos res is in POE. (Poison you can neglect a little more easily but theyre not similar really)

there's no spell suppression or anything close to it (this is a good thing)

and I could type out a list of defensive layers that exist but honestly the in game guide does a better job of explaining them than I do. so whenever you encounter one you can press G in game

or go here https://www.lastepochtools.com

[unreal hinge]

Is foot of the mountain bugged or why are my stats still showing over 1000 dodge and only 300 endurance threshold while standing still?

[knotty tinsel]

afaik they work properly, just doesnt update on the character sheet

same for bladedancer's Apostacy passive

[sinful laurel]

Conditionals are not shown well, if at all, on the sheet or in DPS

[honest oar]

hello all, just curious, a friend and i were considering picking up the game.

he has a couple questions tho:

is the full story content in the game currently? as in can we play the story start to finish?

and once the game is released, will the early access characters be deleted?

[safe harness]

Story isn't finished and won't be for 1.0.

Current characters will still be playable but will be part of their own cycle with a new cycle being released with 1.0.

(cycles are equivalent to path of exile's leagues)

[honest oar]

awesome, thanks for the reply.

i see as of 9.1 3 of the chapters for the story are finished? has there been any announcement on how many chapters they plan for on release? at least thats what i read in a reddit post about 9.1

[faint cape]

9 of the 12 planned chaptera are out

[honest oar]

oh damn

oh i see

post says 3 new chapters

gotcha

[faint cape]

But they are still going back and revamping old chapters, like they just completely redid ch1

[sterile bane]

i didnt even see they had 12 planned

[tame yacht]

Hey, i just bought the game. should i play the game and invest in skills and specializations as i like, or there are some stuff that is hard to switch back if i "made a mistake"?

[zinc anchor]

The only thing impossible to change is class/mastery choices. Skill and passive points are easily respecced so i wouldnt worry about it

[dense root]

respeccing super early in the campaign can be pretty rough

like you shouldn't respec your skills at level 20

but in the long term everything except class and mastery is trivial to respec

[zinc anchor]

Respeccing at even level 20 is fine, there's a minimum level that new skills start at and they level fast

If you aren't using a skill or want to spec something else before you get 5 specialization slots, just swap it

[tame yacht]

so like, i choose rogue to start

[honest oar]

huh thanks for the info, i picked it up, lets see if that convinced my friend

[tame yacht]

eventually i can choose to switch to bladedancer or marksman, thats the permanent choice?

[dense root]

yeah that's permanent

nothing else is

[tame yacht]

okay, thats cool then

when is it prompted for the class switch?

early on or rather later on?

[faint cape]

Earlyish, it's part of the main quest, but typically you're level 15-20

[tame yacht]

this?

[faint cape]

Yeah, well heh, that needs to be updated apparently

It's at the start of chapter 3 now

[sterile widget]

What post?

[cedar locust]

[sterile widget]

Averielle provided location to change them, but if you were wondering, these binds are saved in the Windows Registry (not in human-readable form)

[sterile bane]

ahhhh so youre european

[cedar locust]

I have asked Mike in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs if swapping keybinds via windows registry counts as bannable modding (as I'm not sure) so it's worth keeping an eye out for his answer on it just in case!

[native sail]

Ave why are you up

[cedar locust]

I'm not here, this is the ghost of Weekend Averielle 👻 (it's only 1.20am 😛 and I'm going now anyway - just noticed the news ping and wanted to see it)

[native sail]

Fair, fair. Rest well. I shall continue burning sticks.

[tame yacht]

is there an quick pickup loot button or auto pickup loot feature?

[sterile bane]

yea deias why are you up? you should be enjoying your weekend trip

[broken burrow]

no dead

[sterile bane]

no

[cedar locust]

This might help too! #💬┃general message

[sterile bane]

who is charpoch?

[broken burrow]

Get off the clock!

[sterile widget]

https://tenor.com/view/hitmans-bodyguard-hitmans-bodyguard-gi-fs-samuel-l-jackson-time-tick-tock-gif-8352665

[cedar locust]

I'm going, I'm going! Sheesh xD

[native sail]

Sitting around a fire rn unwinding from dinner where I got laid out by my eating problems again with my favorite food in front of me, making me very sad, roommate headed to bed cuz we gotta get up early to head to Salem. I'm chilling with the other folks while the fire dies down.

[sterile widget]

Have fun! Don't get eaten by the ghosts of witches

[sterile bane]

ahh Salem. i know that area

was there anything exciting said in the dev stream today?

[cedar locust]

EHG team helping with the Discord stuff in the #news post!

🏃‍♀️ I escape!

[native sail]

Dude my roommate's dad (who we are staying with) is super into occult shit, I'm not worried about it

[sterile widget]

Circle of Protection: Black

😄

[hard jolt]

When porting to town, does the area always reset?

[native sail]

Ooh, Skip, you're a tech guy yeah?

[faint cape]

Yes

[hot carbon]

Skip-tech!

[sterile widget]

Yes

[native sail]

Cool, cool. I might ask you stuff cuz I'm being given a bunch of books and it may be stuff you know I have no idea and I'll just need info on where to start :P

[sterile widget]

Feel free to DM 🙂

[stuck jewel]

What's the term for this thingy in areas?

[native sail]

Will do. I'll probably need to get back home first cuz they're in boxes rn

[sterile widget]

Tear? Rift? Portal?

I think in game they call it a rift...

There's an early quest about these.

Confirmed using maxroll. They are referred to as time rifts

[stuck jewel]

I see, thanks a lot!

[orchid turret]

so when using runes of ascendance is it better to use it on the item type youre legendary is?

[sterile bane]

yes

[orchid turret]

gotcha ty

[orchid turret]

does it have to be common?

[sterile bane]

i think it doesnt but its better instead of wasting another item

[orchid turret]

well the item i want is a legendary turquiose ring and i have a few spares so was gonna try with my two runes

ones a blue and ones a yellow

[sterile bane]

you can try

[boreal zenith]

Is there a way to get loot filters to ignore item implicits when matching affixes and tiers?

[orchid turret]

so update i used the rune and got a legendary silver ring hahaha

so i guess it doesnt matter on the ring?

[sterile widget]

Ring -> ring

[orchid turret]

gotcah

[sterile bane]

i also could be wrong

[surreal verge]

Unless you ask the filter to check for the base item type,they auto ignore it

[sterile bane]

because using the rune guaratness you a unique or a set item so if use it on the base item it would limit which you can get in your favor

[zinc anchor]

Not in the same line AFAIK but you can ignore maces with those implicits or show maces without those implicits

[boreal zenith]

I think I just made my filter wrong

[zinc anchor]

You can definitely use on blue or yellow, it doesn't matter

[boreal zenith]

and thought it was matching "3 different affixes" with 2 from implicit and 1 from the actual affixes.

[zinc anchor]

No, when it matches affixes, it should be ignoring implicits, i think, but never really paid much attention i guess

Just hide the implicits you don't want to see

[surreal verge]

It does ignore them,if the condition is only about affixes

[orchid turret]

ty for all the help 1 step closer to my thorn totem build just right

no brainer to go left staff right in regards to a thorn totem build?

or since im using the totems the 91% still trumps it

[safe harness]

umm right staff just strictly better for thorn totem

(the cast speed doesn't make the totems shoot thorns faster)

[sterile bane]

um.......is this new??

[surreal verge]

Singularity? No it’s not

[sterile bane]

ohhh first time i saw it

[tame yacht]

does rogue gets doble dash at some point?

[native sail]

No

[tame yacht]

aw.

[icy marsh]

my buddy and I are in a group but everytime we zone during the campaign (level 14) we end up in a diffrent instance how do we fix that? teleporting to each other is a pita

[boreal zenith]

Two questions about shattering:

1. I can't shatter Experimental items for their Experimental affixes, right?
2. Item rarity has no bearing on the tier -> number of shards conversion? (T5 magic is as likely to give 5 shards as a T5 rare)

[zinc anchor]

1. Right.
2. As far as I know. I still recommend using rune of removal and maybe even glyph of hope if it's an affix you REALLY need

[boreal zenith]

Thank you

[near path]

Correct for both

[tame yacht]

This is the one i can't retract from?

[cinder fossil]

correct, mastery choice is permanent

[boreal zenith]

Why is this axe being hidden by this loot filter rule?

It doesn't satisfy < 3 tiers

% Leech is in the list of 94 selected affixes

Is it because it has a second match affix that is < 3 tiers of that affix?

[boreal zenith]

Okay this appears to be the case. Obviously my filter setup is not ideal but I've mass-recolored at lower ranks and that has caused things with < 3 tiers to show up again so I manually hid them with an increased priority in the hierarchy.

[surreal verge]

Correct.

[zinc anchor]

Yeah...you hide any of those affixes less than tier 3. So unless you have another filter line higher than that which would override it, then it gets hidden

[boreal zenith]

So there is no way to easily define "any number of any of these affixes but at least one has to be >=T3" without a few different filters?

[surreal verge]

Nope.

They either apply to all or none.

[boreal zenith]

And using Recolor inherently applies a Show to anything it recolors?

[faint cape]

Yeah you will see it, only one rule can ever apply to any given item

[surreal verge]

Yes, since items are shown by default.

[faint cape]

like you can't have an item both "shown" and "recolored"

[boreal zenith]

so If I mass-recolor first then the same item gets flagged by a higher priority show, it won't actually be recolored just shown?

[surreal verge]

Yes

[faint cape]

When the item drops, it reads through your filter top-to-bottom. Once it matches a rule, it stops, so there's no interaction between them like that

[boreal zenith]

oh, I thought it worked from the bottom up applying the matching rules in order

thank you

[boreal zenith]

Circling back around to this idea because I want to find things to shatter for affixes I care about. If I care about N different affixes whenever they are T4+ no matter what else is on the item, the only way to do this is to have an individual rule for each affix (N in total)?

[surreal verge]

If all you want is at least one of them, then only one rule is needed.

[boreal zenith]

Oh I see I had to be extra precise because I was trying to hide things that didn't match, which is a backwards way to do it.

[tame yacht]

what is this?

[surreal verge]

Check your weaver's will, it gained new affixes/upgraded affixes

[tame yacht]

where is that

[surreal verge]

Check your uniques.

(I think it's the boots)

[sterile widget]

One of the items you are wearing is a Weaver's Will item. It's improving as you kill enemies 🙂 An example:

[tame yacht]

so all the red substats are improved when i kill stuff?

[sterile widget]

The item has 0 Weaver's Will remaining, so it won't improve anymore, but yes, that is correct.

[boreal zenith]

Every time it levels up it will either improve one of its red stats by 1 tier (up to 7) or will add a new red stat (max of 4 I believe). The number on Weaver's Will shows how many more times it will happen. Yours has run out.

[sterile widget]

Each point of Weaver's Will is converted to a new affix or an upgraded affix tier 🙂

[tame yacht]

so like if it said +10% movement speed in red, and had4 weaver's will it could have upgraded 4 times on it?

[boreal zenith]

yes, but each time it's random if it picks the same stat or gives you a new one or upgrades a different red stat

max WW is 28, which would give you four T7 red stats

[tame yacht]

sounds like end game fun/nightmare

[pastel pebble]

I did have one give me a T7 skill

[boreal zenith]

Do things that proc "when you heal <target type>" only trigger if they actually gain health from the heal, or does attempting to heal a full health target still trigger that? (Ex: Prayer in the Paladin passive tree)

[bronze ocean]

"when you heal <target type>"
This happens only if onHeal event is actually triggered. So the question is whether all skills that provide some sort of heal trigger this event when the target is full health or not.

I assume this supposed to happen only if target was actually healed, but last I checked, it's not always the case.

E.g. Holy symbol triggers onHeal event even if you are on full health. Might be a bug though.

[boreal zenith]

I see, that's logical if annoyingly non-standardized. Presumably there's no public access to the ability code to see which actually trigger such events?

Do you have any personal testing knowledge if Judgement's passive ticks trigger onHeal at full health?

[bronze ocean]

I don't play that much, so can't say

Let me check

Nope, it doesn't check heal amount at all, so should trigger even on full health

[boreal zenith]

cool, thanks for your knowledge and time

[bronze ocean]

Np

But I guess this all will be fixed at some point. I assume it's not an intended behavior.

[boreal zenith]

Yeah I agree.

[sterile widget]

Imagine being so maligned, your name is considered swearing

The chat filter uses artificial intelligence, so your guess is as good as mine.

[boreal zenith]

Can I use any exalted weapon with any other LP weapon, or does the weapon type have to match too?

[near path]

Base type has to match. Sword to sword, mace to mace etc

But not subtype

[boreal zenith]

handedness doesn't matter?

[near path]

Does

[boreal zenith]

ok. thanks

[near path]

But it can be like crystal wand with whatever wand

Just that both have to be wands

[boreal zenith]

okay just realized the LP scepter I found has 10 base damage. 10. So is that just totally dead and useless then, or will the base damage be upgradeable in some way to make the weapon potentially viable?

[knotty tinsel]

uniques that have bad base types usually do so for a reason, so it depends on which it is and what you're trying to do

[boreal zenith]

I can't imagine a world in which a weapon with 10 base damage and 3 spell damage is ever relevant. It's Firestarter's Torch and I happen to be playing a fire paladin spell/melee gish build.

[knotty tinsel]

well have you read the affixes that it has? XD that "more damage" line is a lot lot lot of damage

[marsh maple]

oh lol

[knotty tinsel]

it also has a very high chance to drop with LP, so it's reasonable to farm for it and tailor it to your needs with legendary affixes

[marsh maple]

firestarters torch is one of the strongest items in the game right now

you use it with either Ignite or with a skill that gets all its base damage in some other form

[boreal zenith]

I'm aware that more is multiplicative after the fact... but for comparison the random level 51 weapon I've been using has 120 base damage. 25% more of 90% less is like what?

[knotty tinsel]

it's used in Warpath as well if my memory serves, since it enables that big penetration node

but that might also have been ignite

[marsh maple]

ignite has its own base damage and does not care about the base damage on your weapon

[knotty tinsel]

oh that's the question. yeah on many builds the melee/flat damage on hand items just does not matter at all

[boreal zenith]

how in the fuck does a physical melee skill not scale with the damage of my weapon?

[safe harness]

It does?

[knotty tinsel]

well if you're physical melee why do you want to use a sceptre centered around fire damage?

also it does

Unless by your "gish" build you mean playing two different damage types which usually ends up with you doing weak damage of both

[safe harness]

It’s also worth noting that firestater has required level 0.

[boreal zenith]

(It's Fire Warpath + Judgement + Sigils + Rive (ignite) + Aura, so mostly fire.)

[knotty tinsel]

that's a lot of eggs in a lot of different baskets from the sound if it, I'd roll with warpath or judgment or rive

[boreal zenith]

i'm not asking for build advice I'm trying to understand how this item isn't as bad as it seems to me

Maybe there's something conceptually I don't understand about uniques, then. They have a fixed level (which inherently affects their stat allocations), right?

[safe harness]

As was said, ignite deals a base amount that you can’t add to, so firestarter’s 40% more damage is huge for ignite builds

[boreal zenith]

Right but the damage from fire based skills isn't Ignite unless that skill gives/does something that ignites.

[surreal verge]

Firestarters is your best for the first 15-20 levels because spreading flames.

After that, it's really good on fire skills that even have a chance to apply ignite, for the More%

[boreal zenith]

I accept it can be strong when your level is low, that makes complete sense to me.

How can an item scaled for level 1 be viable at level 100 is what's confusing.

[knotty tinsel]

I think there's a communication hiccup going on because we're kind of guessing at what your main source of damage is here

listing the skills helps but I'm still not sure

[surreal verge]

Builds that don't care about base damage from weps (Eg. Ailment/DoT builds).

Since ignite doesn't scale with the base....

[boreal zenith]

so those builds do like 0 direct damage?

[knotty tinsel]

usually yes

[surreal verge]

Or minimal, that it's not what they're doing.

[knotty tinsel]

you can play damage over time that does scale with added damage (such as the consecrated ground from your judgment, it is a spell so it likes having a wand)

[surreal verge]

Firestarter would be ignite mage's best if they aren't using fireball, but cindersong exists

[safe harness]

I bet ignite frost claw would be good with firestarter

[lofty inlet]

there is also mad alchemist's spoon

[surreal verge]

Mad isn't a leveling I think

[lofty inlet]

ye its not a good leveling weapon, but an interesting concept

[safe harness]

Is there a fire throwing skill in the game?

[knotty tinsel]

acid flask

omegalul

[safe harness]

😄

[knotty tinsel]

and burning daggers from cinder strike, slightly less omegalul

javelin has fire stuff but isnt converted to fire technically right? so not that

[safe harness]

Melee cinder strike with firestarter

[knotty tinsel]

ballista potion spamming with firestarter and the pillager relic

and jungle queen chaps

now we're cooking with gas

[lofty inlet]

jungle queen chaps are low item belt, but i have never even seen it drop

[knotty tinsel]

It's very rare but with high LP chance to drop when it does

a bit of a meme item but no less strong for it

[lofty inlet]

meme items are the best

[boreal zenith]

Okay so my understanding is that since the offensive skills I have chosen scale with strength and weapon damage (Rive, Warpath, Judgement impact) but generally do fire damage and apply lots of ignite, Firestarter is actively bad for me since I can't wield it in my offhand and I need weapon damage.

And the only way to attempt to use it is to go for something like no-mana-cost-smite with rifts and just let everything die to ignite instead?

[surreal verge]

For your case, that, or judgement aura-ish

[boreal zenith]

thank you all for the information and corrections

[lofty inlet]

question about lament of the lost refuge item, it says it converts volcanic orb to void dmg. i assume thats before any elemental bonuses added, like spellblades rune weaving and stuff like that

on same note, does firebrand's node 'brand of arcanus' add fire spell damage or universal spell damage

[steel merlin]

if it isnt bugged, should be universal

and only base damage is converted

[winged crown]

Hey, how much work is it to change your build later in the game? I just want to know how friendly this game is for trial and error

[slim scarab]

I can't do Rahyeh with necro, I'm not good at moving. My reflexes are gone. Can anyone recommend a killer boss class that is very tanky?

[lofty inlet]

necro

both acolyte subclasses are among the tankiest in the entire game

[steel merlin]

very very friendly as long as you dont want to change the subclass, because you cant

[slim scarab]

I die with necro. I'll try with lich then

[winged crown]

Thanks, good to know 😄

[surreal verge]

The pizza void slices are dodge or die.

[slim scarab]

Exactly yes. I noti alle to dodge that mechanics. I'm slow

[surreal verge]

Get a traversal/more movespeed.

Or I guess, use rebuke if you're sentinel

[slim scarab]

Sentinel with rebuke?

I search on letool

Thanks for the tips

[lofty inlet]

build, level, gear issue. as ive said necro and lich have the most potential for braindead facetanking

if you have low health, no resistances, no armor, no additional defenses like critical strike avoidance etc, you are going to die with every subclass, every build

[surreal verge]

No, that's technically sentinel

Rebuke free button

Anyway

[lofty inlet]

i think having like 20k ward with acolyte subclasses is more reliable tankyness than short period of invurnerability

[steel merlin]

how do you get that ward D:

[surreal verge]

Ehhhhhh, death seal liches can't do that

[slim scarab]

I'm in leveling and old as Fck with refelxes

[lofty inlet]

so level more, get better gear

check what you ahve for defenses

[slim scarab]

I can'tcomplete that monolith

[lofty inlet]

but you can do other things

[slim scarab]

How I can progress? I can switch?

[lofty inlet]

its not like you are stuck at the boss fight and cant do anything else

[slim scarab]

Ah

Really?

[lofty inlet]

just teleport somewhere else?

[slim scarab]

Need ti read something

[surreal verge]

They're on Black Sun's QUest echo Boss.

[slim scarab]

Another monolith you Say?

[slim scarab]

Yes, I am

[lofty inlet]

that means they are not locked in prison

[surreal verge]

That also means a roundabout to get to the next monolith, since that most likely means having to redo Fall of Outcasts to get to Stolen Lance to progress.

[lofty inlet]

but

the progress is to get stronger

regardless of how you look at it, lack of gear, levels and bad build is fixable by grinding more at any of several options

yes

[slim scarab]

I see your point of view. I'll need try tò grind more item from previous monolith?

(One monolith, atm)

[icy drift]

Yes

[slim scarab]

Maybe I try a sentinel with rebuke. I think that itemize necro for me is a question to pass from to die with 2 slices of pizza to die from 3 slices. Lol

[lofty inlet]

there is also arena.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ you can import your character here and then show the build.

as ive said previously, bad defensive stats on any class will get you killed

[slim scarab]

Is pvp?

[lofty inlet]

no

just level 40+ wave killing place with loot

[slim scarab]

I'm goong ti work, later I see how to import my character. Thank for all the help, I apreciate

[lofty inlet]

the problem i can see so far is that i cant even really suggest you grinding for something when you are not aware why you are dieing

[slim scarab]

I understand. Sorry 😂

I try to import my char and post for you. Thanks for help

[lofty inlet]

sure np

[slim scarab]

Lastepochtools says: character not found. I'll try later with PC on

[barren sapphire]

Hey guys, I'm around 75, just cleared Lagon's mono, should I start target farm or try to reach empowered mono asap ? Thanks 🙂

[lofty inlet]

i think that depends on how powerful and tanky the character feels and what items it needs

[barren sapphire]

I had trouble with Lagon cause 0 crit avoidance 😛

Im playing BM

[lofty inlet]

lets say, your build is pretty strong, but you wanted to build something that requires empowered monos to drop

hmm

[barren sapphire]

I think my question is: Is it worth it to farm non empowered or the drop rate change is a huge difference in empowered ?

[lofty inlet]

well 0 crit avoidance is going to be an issue wherever you go, so might want to just keep getting exalted gear with loot filter on and squeeze some crit avoid

it is significant, as well as bosses drop new empowered specific loot

however if you are dieing a lot even in non empowered then no need to hurry

some builds can use 'crits deal less dmg' modifiers instead

[dense root]

always go for empowered asap imo

[barren sapphire]

Thanks for your answer, I'll try to push and adapt if I cannot progress 🙂

[lofty inlet]

i guess keep pushing but collect some random crit avoid gear to not fall over instantly

[dense root]

if a build has problems before empowered it mostly suggests you need to reevaluate some of your choices

[lofty inlet]

can always change, the current character i play, one of the skills i use did not even exist when it was in non-empowered

(frost wall)

[left stag]

So I bought the game last night and downloaded it and I could get it to run up until the point where I had to type in my screen name, I tried verifying the files through steam, and then I went as far as reinstalling the game but now it will not even open up to that point. Could someone please help me with this issue or have suggestions before I have to request a refund?

[stuck jewel]

Are the shatter runes pretty rare while leveling/doing campaign or do I have to look at my downloaded filter more closely?

[steel merlin]

Filters can't hide runes

[stuck jewel]

Ooh good to know ty! Then I just don't see them very often.

[steel merlin]

Youll get more of everything including runes later

[sterile widget]

#support

[lofty inlet]

dont worry about crafting components or lack of them. i guess same goes for using them jsut for the heck of it, as the only rune that is definitely less common than the others is rune of ascendance

[lofty inlet]

question, is there anything to temporal sanctum other than julra's drops and the legendary crafter, is there a point in even killing any mobs in the entire dungeon there

i guess same goes lightless arbor

[native sail]

Sure. Door modifiers can dramatically increase drop rates of exalts of a certain type from mobs, so if you have one of those It's pretty nice.
Arbor is less important, just make sure you kill an amber dude every so often so you don't end up without light.

[lofty inlet]

yeah was just thinking that any empowered mono has better chances

[native sail]

I mean

Not really

Sanctum is the premier exalted farm

[stuck jewel]

Why are some affixes colored? Saw yellow and purple so far, as an example:

[native sail]

Yellow is a one shot cache, it only shows up from that specific chest in that specific area and that specific item. Purple is higher than craftable.

[stuck jewel]

Thanks!

Now that I read about it those one shot caches (didn't know that term yet) are only there to help leveling so I assume it's no big deal if you sell or shatter those?

[native sail]

Purple items are called exalted items btw

[native sail]

Yeah pretty much

[lofty inlet]

hmm, i guess it is hard to say when you are constantly going up and up in levels, and the area levels, then seeing 'item rarity' go up etc, then go to empowered which is 100 lvl + 100 corruption. maybe it is just me but going to temporal sanctum feels like going back. like right now temporal sanctum says 'enemies drop slightly more exalted helmets'... and its like... compared to what? is it more than 200 corruption mono at 250% item rarity or whatever? is that really intuitive?

[native sail]

It's not super intuitive but tier 4 Sanctum has tried and proven results that it drops far more exalted of a specific type compared to empowered monos, even people who farm over 1000 corruption play Sanctum to farm exalts

[subtle kindle]

am i just rerolling warpath now

[lofty inlet]

hopefully they are going to figure out how to display these things, because i am playing for quite awhile and this was news to me

[subtle kindle]

(that is t6 flat void)

[native sail]

They kinda don't like having super explicit information about drop rates out so this probably will not happen

[subtle kindle]

I wish it was on a less dogshit maw but hey I guess we take what we can get

[grave meadow]

do you think the game is worth the price ?

you all like to play ?

[subtle kindle]

Yes

I have 300 hours, I also have about a dozen builds on my "to play list" which could get me double that if I pushed them

[grave meadow]

i was such dissapointed from diablo 4

[native sail]

I have almost 1100 hours so...

[grave meadow]

and now i found this game

[subtle kindle]

If your problem with D4 was build variety we have that, if it was boring items we have that, if it was endgame content we have that and will be getting more in short order (post 1.0)

[grave meadow]

endgame was the biggest problem

from d4 i think

after lvl 50 it was boring as fuck

[broken burrow]

oh yeah, and if it was...... we have that tooo

and the community iis great

[native sail]

Well, besides global chat

That's a mess

[stuck jewel]

Personally am always disabling the global chat 😂 Did so in PoE as well.

[native sail]

And we've got a couple testy folks in Discord sometimes. I've been slurred a couple times here and then watched them promptly be banned

[grave meadow]

okay ty guys im installing now

lets give it a try

[stuck jewel]

Also started yesterday, having a blast but I'm pretty early still, level 52.

[grave meadow]

how much level does it have ?

[native sail]

100

You won't have to sell your soul to reach it though

It is slower than it used to be but still completely manageable

[lofty inlet]

there isnt much waiting for you at level 100

being content with your build and performance is 'the end'

and then you have a few dozen more builds that you probably thought of while leveling

tho it is unlikely to go and level to 100 with first char

[kind bolt]

Anyone have a better button mapping for controller?

[broken burrow]

Check the forums or lastepochtools.com

[grave meadow]

what do you think is the best calss to start ?

class

[sterile bane]

It’s easier to tell you what to not start as

[subtle kindle]

(shaman and forge guard)

they are the bait classes, everything else is very good

[languid igloo]

Do "More damage" modifiers not affect the estimated DPS displayed in a skill's tooltip?

Or is this an issue I am having with Spirit Plague specifically?
I've got three separate "More damage" modifiers for Spirit Plague at the moment (75%, 20% and 50%) from the Spirit Plague skill tree, but none of them have updated the skill tooltip and it doesn't feel like Spirit Plague is dealing any more damage either

Edit: Okay nvm, I went and cursed a dummy to check the numbers so it's just a display thing at least

[sinful laurel]

Lol that's not really true. Forge guard plays very well up to about 2-300 corr

[subtle kindle]

Thats fair but forge guard has fewer viable builds

[surreal verge]

The tooltip is a lying bastard.

[subtle kindle]

and especially forge strike which may be why some people go into it

[languid igloo]

Yeah
I wish there were more dynamically updating tooltip details, like Spirit Plague's duration for example, I know it's 3 sec baseline but there are two 60% increased duration nodes and idk if they're additive or multiplicative and they don't want to tell me either so uh, it's either 6.6 sec or 7.6 sec

[sinful laurel]

Sure I will agree with that. Forge guard definitely needs some love. But I love playing it. Forged weapons are fun 🙂

[surreal verge]

It takes into account no mana problems, no cooldown issues, Crit chance converted straight to damage, ailments as part of the DPS even if it's just 5% chance....

[languid igloo]

It's smart and stooped at the same time (much like myself)

[tawny osprey]

is disintergratin hammers still bugged with area ?

[unborn ether]

i'm having some issues with large periods of time when switching maps and ocasionally disconnecting. is that common?

[languid igloo]

Known issue, it's being worked on

[unborn ether]

okay, thanks

[dense root]

the load times do get a decent amount better in the endgame

switching between endgame maps takes just a second or two for me but switching between campaign areas takes a dozen seconds or more

[zealous orchid]

I have a pastebin link of a loot filter I want to import into my game. How do I do that??

[zealous orchid]

It's a bug they will hopefully fix in 1.0

[dense root]

i don’t think it’s a bug

like it’s just bad performance

but i’m aware they’re working on it yeah

i was just explaining that the problem will get better after they finish the campaign

[amber rain]

Hey about the Glacial Cascade (cold conversion) node in Upheaval: It says bleed chance from all sources is converted to frostbite chance, but doesn't specify "for upheaval" like most of these nodes do. Does this mean this is global conversion and it would also work for let's say Swipe?

[surreal verge]

No, it applies to ALL sources of bleed, including from outside of Upheaval (Ie. Gear, passives)
SKill spec nodes never directly interact with another skill.

[amber rain]

So it's just missing the "for Upheaval" part that most skills have?

[balmy current]

Unless they explicitly say they will like Firebrand (Incineration & Illuminating Fire)

Yes

[amber rain]

damn, the inconsistencies in wording sure give me false hope way too often

Another question, if I make Vines ranged, do melee minion affixes still apply similar to how ranged Mana Strike still counts as melee?

[zinc anchor]

I don't think ranged mana strike should be melee? But it should be easy to test on a dummy

[dense crest]

Does anyone know if this triggers when transformed? (spending rage instead of mana)

[lunar holly]

No, when you transform your vines they start casting Spirit Thorns which is a spell (and gain the spell tag but lose the melee one).

[lunar holly]

Ranged Mana Strike still has the melee tag, that's why it works so well with Fragment of the Enigma.

[lunar holly]

Yep, just tested it. 🤓

[subtle kindle]

Is that not the reason you can play Lightning Bug?

The fact that rage counts towards that idol?

[stuck jewel]

Am I locked out of something when I can't continue the monolith quest?

[thorn pebble]

I think the monolith of fate quest will automatically resolve once you start doing the first monolith

at least that's what happend to me

[fervent quiver]

Yep, thats it.

Its weird that nothing happens talking to her, but just head into the monolith

[west ferry]

maybe i can get a answer here

so there is 3 locations i have always wondered about and thats the overgrown alcove that hidden area in the cliff waterway and the one outside of the lotus halls what are they

[sinful laurel]

They are isolated areas accessible through time rifts

Side quest content basically

[west ferry]

2 of those 3 are not time rifts tho

i have never had any rifts that take me to 2 of those 3 places

[eager nest]

I just moved and am stuck on shit wifi for like a week. Are ping spikes likely to ruin the experience for me?

[slim marsh]

Is disintegrate bugged? Doesn't register damage sometimes on bosses

[lofty inlet]

question about Erased items (weaver stuff). say erased item is level 15 and you are rolling it with level 15 character. can it theoretically roll up to tier 7, or do the crafting and drop limitations based on level apply there too?

[lunar holly]

you can get anything, your level doesn't matter

[tame yacht]

how inaccurate are the arrows if anyone tried it?

[sinful laurel]

If I had to estimate, it's like a 3-5 degree spread

So closer is better, but it's not too terrible at far range

[tame yacht]

so its basically free then? makes it like a small cone

[sinful laurel]

That node is worth.

[left stag]

so determined my issue was having discord open while launching the game was causing it to crash incase anyone else has same issue lol

[sterile widget]

Ah. Yeah, overlays can cause issues for Unity games on some systems. Glad you got it sorted

[left stag]

Me too because this game is awesome 🥲

[sterile widget]

🙂

[left stag]

now i just hope i can get my refund for D4 XD

[sinful laurel]

Wait d4 bad?

No wai

[native sail]

SO BRAVE

[sinful laurel]

Yasssss queeeeeeen

[left stag]

Its not that it was bad it was just the fact the devs made the game unplayable via their updates and not only did they not fix/offer anything to appease players they refuse to listen to the players and streamers so thats kinda what did me in.

[sinful laurel]

We just like to poke fun at the virtue signal "v validate me daddy" feel of talking about d4 in other game spaces lol

[icy drift]

I played D4 until level 60 and then stopped and haven't gone back yet lul

[left stag]

watching their little huddle videos just made me want to vomit at a certain point

[left stag]

I had a maxed character before season then season was unplayable so idk what level my season character was

[icy drift]

But I do have hope it'll eventually have a decent enough endgame to warrant playing it from time to time

Btw we're not supposed to talk about this here, we might incur the wrath of Kain

[left stag]

Well this game is better so I hope everyone comes plays it instead

sorry lol

[icy drift]

Nvm I think kain is offline we're safe

[left stag]

its my first day here after a whole night and morning of trying to make it work so i gotta break the rules somewhere XD

[sinful laurel]

As long as you're ok with us poking fun at you for it 😉

[icy drift]

Yeah apparently if it's not LE related you go to the #lobby channel, but ain't nobody got time for that, I'm a rebel

[left stag]

Well i am a happy camper now so you can poke all the fun you want XD

[stuck jewel]

When starting out with Monoliths, do the unique items have the highest priority to get to?

[sinful laurel]

Depends if you are target farming a unique

[stuck jewel]

Not really, but it seemed to me if I have barely any uniques it might be important to try and get as many as possible.

[sinful laurel]

Nah, this isn't a game where you're gonna be kitted out in all uniques in endgame

If you need one that enables a build synergy, then sure.

[stuck jewel]

Alright, thanks!

[jolly karma]

What's a good minion build (any class) to play if you're new and have no uniques to build around? I'd like to scale it well into endgame if possible.

[copper fable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh-zhZkzQHA

Necromancer in general will be able to do most things without uniques. adding uniques will just enhance what your build was already doing. So yeah my choice would be necromancer for sure.

[jolly karma]

Alright, ty!

[zinc anchor]

Yeah i agree, necromancer would be good

I play physical minion permanent necro and none of my uniques are mandatory

[jolly karma]

Good to hear from more than one source! I was eyeing either cold or fire necromancer. I like the idea of having both the pets and zombies exploding.

[near path]

I would actually recommend Bleed Hammerdin

It's a much better all-rounder and has incredible scaling into any version of Smite Pally or Crit Nova Hammerdin as you play the game and find / craft the gear

[copper fable]

Thats not a minion build silly

[near path]

Oh wait

[jolly karma]

I enjoy the minion playstyle more, clicking and aiming is not for me sadly

[near path]

My brain literally skipped over the word "minion"

My bad

[jolly karma]

All good, appreciate the suggestion 🙂

[near path]

Also, in that case, I can recommend Bleed Bear Beastmaster or Thorn Totem Shaman

Primalist is just an incredibly cheese class to get through difficult content

And later you can either go for Thunder Wolves, or if you're lucky, Squirrels on BM

[jolly karma]

I saw that Squirrel helm, looks really fun, but i also read that it's extremely rare, so I'll probably never see it.

[near path]

Thunder Wolves just requires one specific unique that's not too rare

[near path]

Yeah that thing is.. rough

I have 1. In 500 hrs.

And I'm lucky

[jolly karma]

OUch :/

[near path]

I know people have target farmed it for dozens of hours to no avail

[jolly karma]

Yeah i need something that can start from scratch and still scale into endgame well

[buoyant sinew]

that doesn't seem particularly lucky — if you compare it to other 70% reroll items, you've probably found those

[near path]

Bleed Bear is very powerful, as is Thorn Shaman

[buoyant sinew]

scurry is not stupid rare, it's just rare enough that you can get really RNG screwed trying to farm it

(which yes, does mean not relying on getting one)

[jolly karma]

Can you even target farm it?

[near path]

I have most everything in the game except Omnis (shockingly), Bastion, Throne and Aurora's Timeglass

[near path]

Yes

[buoyant sinew]

you can semi-target farm everything

[near path]

Each monolith has special reward nodes targeted towards specific gear slots

[buoyant sinew]

since random drops can be "targeted" using the "drops a unique <item type>" rewards

[jolly karma]

How would you target the Squirrel helm?

[buoyant sinew]

do the Black Sun timeline to find unique helmet nodes

it's about a 2% drop chance from those

[near path]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/endgame/monolith

[jolly karma]

Alright, ty

[near path]

Go to black sun, hunt for helm reward nodes

As per devs the higher corruption you push the more likely those reward nodes are, but experientially neither I nor others have really noticed that

[jolly karma]

Would you need to reach a certain level of Corruption too?

Ok, that makes sense

[buoyant sinew]

although something that definitely does matter is distance from the centre of the web

the further you get the more those nodes appear

[jolly karma]

That's a great tip, i didn't know that

[unreal hinge]

I got 2 today just from ascending some helmets

[jolly karma]

That is so lucky 😮

Did you use it on a certain base or itemlevel?

[unreal hinge]

Nope, just used them on any helmet i found

[near path]

Great day to buy a lottery ticket

[median siren]

ok... im close to clicking purchase on this game. Ive been a huge fan of TQ2, GD, and D2 for years. Also been through torchlight and a few other arpgs. how well flushed out is the endgame at this point?

and how well do melee classes fare

[jolly karma]

One of the few games I'd feel good about recommending. You get a lot of value for your money if you enjoy ARPG games.

[unreal hinge]

Its okayish, most fun is in creating builds though

[median siren]

about how long to make a fresh toon and run it to max level?

i like real grindy arpgs

not a huge fan of streamlined leveling

[stuck jewel]

Inside echoes you can gather bonus stability, does gathering max bonus stability also increase the quantity of items gotten from that echo or is it purely for the progression of the monolith boss?

[near path]

Maybe 80ish hours? Hard to say if you're purely focused on levelling only

The fun is in the item minmaxing

And build creation

[median siren]

ok so pretty solid leveling. so once you level up to max is there still plenty of motivation to world grind to min max?

[near path]

No quant bonus from stability

[median siren]

something i loved in TQ2 so much was the grind to find componenents and make relics that then motivated hunting weapons and gear to compliment those relics. similar to how a single drop in D2 can inspire an entire build.

[stuck jewel]

Aah okay thanks, so going straight to the boss to get the reward and move on to the next is probably the way to go for me.

[near path]

That's sort of how it can work here as well. Certain builds require specific uniques or idols

And then there's the entire legendary crafting aspect

Now experimental affixes too

You can spend a LOOONG time making "perfect" items

My Rive VK still uses a rare axe because I've simply never been able to find nor make an exalted axe to beat it

[median siren]

awesome. Does the grind stay satsifying and fun? also are any maps procedural generation or is everything static?

I run a small business and ARPGs are where i go to turn my brain off and embrace the grind lol

i appreciate you guys answering my questions 😄 the community seems to enjoy the game to the same level as in grim dawn so im gonna give it a go

[jolly karma]

I'm curious what class and skills you start with 🙂

[stuck jewel]

I was looking at that one as well but was following a Necro leveling build from Maxroll. Would there be a recommended time to transition or could I do that anytime? I'm level 64 at the moment.

[copper fable]

No idea, which maxroll build? The shatter golem?

Shatter golem is probably one of the best minion builds for starting, so if you are playing that might as well just stick to it.

[near path]

Echoes and dungeon layouts are procedural, but you kinda eventually memorize the various layouts

At least if you play for a few hundred hours

As to "fun" that's very subjective. A lot of people including me have put 100s of hours in the game despite it not having a very fleshed out endgame yet

So there's that

[median siren]

@jolly karma i alwayssss go for dual wield melee builds first. then pet builds 2nd and hybrid builds 3rd. But melee is where i love to live. I go spell caster only when i see something thats hard hitting and very mobile

[jolly karma]

Sounds like a Rogue as a starter for you then, you're gonna enjoy it 🙂

[near path]

Lightning Swipe Werebear too

[stuck jewel]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/necromancer-leveling-guide#gearing-step-by-step-header Yeah that's the one. But they don't have a Necromancer end-game build in their categories hence I had to look somewhere else and also found the build on lastepochtools that you linked.

[median siren]

@near path so i take it the grind stays satisfying even once the maps become stale?

[acoustic thicket]

is any1 getting a our servers are experiencing additional load screen when loading up the game?

[near path]

As long as you enjoy minmaxing and trying cooked builds yeah

[left stag]

having trouble to getting my controller to assign for the game its like it doesn't register its plugged in but it works as a mouse for me and just fine on other games. Does anyone have an idea?

[median siren]

and i guess to be sure... i play single player only. the game does fully support offline play right?

[near path]

I found a great helm for my MM today and the legendary slam bricked. Now I need to find both the base and the unique again lol

[copper fable]

Shatter golem will take you to end game. you can play it past leveling. its a very strong build

[median siren]

also i play on controller. but most modern arpgs have decent controller play now

[near path]

Controllers aren't officially supported yet but afaik it's not terrible or anything

[left stag]

ah okay i saw the buttons in the settings so i wasnt sure i am just not a primary MnK player so im not good at it

[median siren]

as long as they work ok with combat. I typically play with controller and menu with ms/k

infinite stash tabs 😍

item search functions by resistences and buffs....

dude... ok. you guys could have just sold me on the QoL functions

loot prioritization logic...

[left stag]

i am just use to controller so i prefer it lol

[stuck jewel]

By coincidence, would you know of a guide for that build that's still relevant and goes past the only-leveling part?

Otherwise I'll look for one but personally I don't know if or till what extent they're still relevant if they aren't explicity tagged 0.9.2 >_<

Was looking and found this one real quick from 0.9.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9SgCI1HjDQ

[native sail]

Currently you need an initial login in order to start but if you lose connection you're fine. I believe they said they will have pure offline available at 1.0

[stuck jewel]

Or maybe the better question, what version of the game should I look minimally for a guide like this?

[copper fable]

they wont be tagged as 0.9.2 most likely. bone golem is unchanged since 0.9. pretty much can follow those guides.

[median siren]

thats fine. my internet is just spotty. @native sail

[stuck jewel]

Thanks! I'll be looking for 0.9.0 and up in that case.

[latent canyon]

This build is still fully playable

Nothing was changed other than twisted heart got slightly changed/nerfed

[candid elm]

There's a guide on Maxroll for a Golem Necromancer that's been updated to 0.9.2. The addition of the experimental affixes that were added in 0.9.2, specifically the "X minions teleported around you after you use a traversal skill" affix is really nice for the build. When you use your movement skill, Transplant, the Golem also moves with you. Really helps the build feel a bit less slow.
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/golem-necromancer-guide

[latent canyon]

Could have solved that one with skele tp tbh but you lose culling

But yea a single boot prefix solves it

[candid elm]

Yeah and a rank 1 of it is fine, so its easy to seal.

[ionic temple]

I got an item that gives lightning aegis, I don't know what that is

[stuck jewel]

Oh wut interesting, I have an older tab open where I filtered endgame and I don't see the golem necromancer guide on maxroll but now that I do the same filter again and I see it o_o. Probably an issue on my end and thanks for bringing it up 😂

Guess it's time to try and farm the required items for it

[candid elm]

It doesn't really require any uniques to begin working. The ring gives minions crit immunity. The amulet gives minion crit multi, extra damage. The relic gives you a good amount of ward.

[stuck jewel]

Sweet, reading through the build and luckily I've got the ring. But I've got no clue about crafting in this game yet so I'd have to watch/read guides about that. But it only has 1 legendary potential which I understand is the lowest I could've gotten 😂

[native sail]

Well no the lowest is 0

[stuck jewel]

Oh, at least something in that case

[candid loom]

just starting my 1st character, does the rogue have builds similar to D2 Amazons, or is it more like an assassin? cuz I hate poison and dots in general

[native sail]

Rogue is most often direct damage instead of DoT

[candid loom]

oh cool cool, just starting and saw acid flask recommended so I wondered if dots are the way to go with her

[native sail]

Uh

Acid Flask is not recommended tbh

It's one of the worst skills in the game atm

[candid loom]

then ppl in the ingame chat were trolling me haha

[native sail]

In game chat is BAD

It is full of misinformation and extremely poor players

[dense root]

wow talking about radart behind his back

[native sail]

Yes

[candid loom]

yeah, wanted to give it a small try but after 10 minutes of using acid flask, came to ask here haha

[native sail]

I wish Acid Flask was good, it isn't

[candid loom]

are there many new players with D4's debacle and Asmongold posting several vids about the game? I purchased a long time ago but tbh he reminded me I had it haha

[native sail]

Eh a bit. Not a ton. I've seen more people that have been here for months talking about "D4 bad'' than I have new people showing up. It's exhausting.

[median siren]

im sure its a reported bug already. but what causes my ability to loot with controller to just go away and also sometimes items drop on the ground but cant be picked up

[candid loom]

tbh I didnt even play D4, only the beta, because here in Argentina its like a 1/3 of a monthly salary (for comparison, D4 Ultimate costs 40.000 pesos, LE costs around 2500 pesos) but I read its way too mmo-lite for a arpg

[native sail]

Uh... hm. I have no idea. On MnK it's solved by hitting alt+z but I have no idea what the issue could be in controller

[median siren]

ill try that.

[native sail]

D4 is not for the hard-core ARPG crowd and it's obvious because it is structured more of an MMO but people won't judge it by that so you've got people shitting on it constantly.

[median siren]

but thats what destroyed it.... the arpg community has a ton of great MMO options that blizzard could never touch

if i want a ARPG mmo im gonna play black desert

[candid loom]

I mean, D3 RoP wasnt either, I dunno what they were expecting. Those players KINDA got what they wanted with D2R.

[native sail]

This is not comparable. At all.

BDO is a completely different style of game

[candid loom]

haha just installed Black Desert before installing LE. got tired of running in circles for nothing because the best loot in the game is worthless compared to the value of upgraded items.

uninstalled* black desert

the feeling of "Ill farm 500hs here because I have a small chance to get FILTHY RICH if i get this drop" is 100% missing in BDO

[median siren]

the upgrading isnt hard

the game just sucks at explaining alot of things

no a standard arpg and black desert cant be compared. but the grindy action rpg style of black desert works well and is highly addictive once you hit ascended

[candid loom]

Im around 700GS, I wouldnt say spending like 15b for a 3% chance to upgrade a weapon isnt hard. Most veterans recommend to just buy the items because upgrading will almost always lose you money

[median siren]

oh yeah at that point of min maxing. ive never pushed the game that far

i enjoy maxing out my level and just passively doing crap. i enjoy the skills and side content alot

im not concerned about generating 26 billion a hour in PvP hot zones

[candid loom]

I agree that the start of the game and until you hit midgame, you have a few months of A LOT of fun. But the endgame is running in circles for thousands of hours to slooowly get enough silver to buy your upgrades from the marketplace, because the rates are so low you cant risk wasting those thousands of hours blowing up your items.

[median siren]

this is very true... but if you like the early and mid game like i do.... they are releasing a new game this winter thats single player story driven RPG

its looking very very good

[candid loom]

Crimson Desert? Ill believe it when I see it XD

still waiting for my preordered Bloodlines 2 that I bought in 2019

[median siren]

yeah lol. i just recently learned of it. it looks great but we all know how that goes in todays world

thats actually why i came here. because D4 was the bust i knew it was gonna be. was never interested in a MMO lite arpg experience. Grim dawn has me tired till their new expansion hits. TQ2 anniversary has been patched so much they ruined the game.

so now im here. just started playing a hour ago but the controller has a few kinks im trying to work past

[candid loom]

I was looking for an online ARPG. Got GD and TQ but never played them because of the lack of online multiplayer. Im not much of a party guy but I like the trade and having an economy. Not sure if LE will end up having trade but at least its online haha

I was so hyped for Wolcen, damnit. What a waste.

[median siren]

well D2R has a healthy economic system but their refusal to bring inventory and storage to the modern age is infuriating. having to keep 20 extra toons just to sort items is garbage nowadays lol

[candid loom]

yeah, also I played D2 for like 12 years and the burnout lasts to this day haha I tried D2R, got a sorc to 90 but it was wayy too much the same d2

[median siren]

TQ2 has online. its just not super active anymore. GD has a good online community. just interact with their discord. Im liking this game so far if my internet gets more stable it seems like mulitplayer would be fun

build variety has changed over the last 4 seasons with the new runewords and some balances. alot of new viable builds. but theyve announced no new changes for season 5... so looks like their promise of years of updates was bust

but i get what you mean. the d2 grind is REAL

[candid loom]

what I mean with online is, characters stored in the server, so people cant cheat. in games where you can bring your sp character to online, its usually a cheating mess

I think the last game I played like that was Torchlight 2. Had a blast but when I started to find cheaters who would give me their duped items for free, kinda lost the meaning

[median siren]

OHHH yes. very true

torchlight 2 is freaking amazing. but i never played online

its very fresh even in vanilla due to the procedural generation. even if the game is short

[candid loom]

I played it on release but I remember that the drops were just FUN, I do remember I had a lot less fun when I started modding it tho

ruined the game for me

[median siren]

they are and the late game has some really satisfying build your own weapon kinda grind. its crazy easy to build something OP but there is just a satisfying crunch to slaying groups of mobs

[broken burrow]

I'll be in VC if you'd like to chit chat about the game at all

[median siren]

i would love to if my internet didnt drop out every minute for a few seconds at a time 😦

i have so many questions about this game

[broken burrow]

well, we can go to a separate channel if you drop and came back repeatedly i don't mind

[median siren]

i may take you up on that tomorrow when i have a while to sit down while i play the game.

have you been playing this game for a hot minute?

[broken burrow]

cool i'm around a lot

[median siren]

or are you one of the devs lol. i dont know the devs names

[native sail]

(The devs/EHG staff all have yellow names)

[hot carbon]

it might be orange

[wheat vault]

Does anyone know if this scales exclusively with sources of ONLY increased physical damage or would also account for generic damage increases that also add to the increased physical damage stat in the character sheet?

[native sail]

I believe any generic increases work for it. Just specifically increases, not added not more.

[wheat vault]

Yeah, thanks!

I figured that considering the Character sheet increases

[candid elm]

Whatever color this is

[native sail]

Yeah, that's a yellow to me. Not quite vibrant enough to be orange imo

[candid elm]

¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[native sail]

Yeah I don't know what to call that color

[candid elm]

I'm terrible with colors. I also don't know

[hot carbon]

Mann Co Sickly Melons

[median siren]

ahhh sweet!

i just fired the game back up and the controller play is much better now?

the bugs i was having before arent happening now

to whoever asked before i have started with Rogue but the primalist was tempting

[candid elm]

There's still a few issues. Like I was unable to remap the button that also acts as the back button in menus.

But overall it's pretty good

[median siren]

i cant remap any buttons at all

[candid elm]

You can also use the Steam Overlay Controller section, if you'd like

[median siren]

i may do that. ill play around with it more later. but would prefer to be adapted to how the devs have controller setup since they will be fully integrating it later

[native sail]

Primalist is great tbh

[median siren]

can you do a dual wielding druid?

summon beasts and dish out heavy melee?

[native sail]

You can do dual wield Druid if you want yeah. But most Primalist builds either go minion or direct, the closest you get to mixing them is with squirrels because of Spirit Wolves in the Swipe tree

[median siren]

but it is viable to do a hybrid build?

[native sail]

Ehhh

[hot carbon]

squirrels is good

[median siren]

most ARPGs dont have any viable pet/melee hybrids

[native sail]

With Spirit Wolves sure.

I wouldn't say you can do it with all though

[hot carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-back-flip-funny-crap-gif-7419305

[median siren]

ill probably be laying down druid as my 2nd class either way and sentinel as my third

[native sail]

If you wanna do hybrid go Beastmaster

[median siren]

the rogue feels so mobile out the gate. dash is pleasing to use and flurry is a great spammable attack

[native sail]

Druid doesn't lend itself to minions well so you take Druid if you wanna do damage and be a bear or a bug or a tree

[safe harness]

This unique axe sorta does hybrid melee minion

[native sail]

Is that Beast King?

[safe harness]

Yes

[native sail]

Raaaaah memory working

I'd be amused if that got used well

[safe harness]

(Sorry doesn’t all fit on screen on mobile)

[median siren]

ahhh ok... that at least gives me a direction to try and make something work.

[native sail]

Somehow Hakar's got use recently apparently?

[median siren]

and are all skill trees able to be respec?

[native sail]

The only thing you can't respec is your mastery choice

[median siren]

im going dual wield melee with high evasion and will probably take the blademaster mastery

[safe harness]

This is hakars

[median siren]

ok good to know

thats pretty cool

[safe harness]

Blade master doesn’t really have minion stuff

[native sail]

Surely Ballista will be viable at 1.0

SURELY

[safe harness]

Other than BEES

[native sail]

Bees are chad

[median siren]

rogue has minion options though? outside ballista which is the only one i saw and was curious about

[native sail]

With a specific unique, yes

[median siren]

attack bees and squirrels though... im liking this game lol

[native sail]

It's called Hive Mind

It makes Decoy spawn bees which you can then buff with Acid Flask

It's quite funny

[median siren]

oh so they dont attack but instead act like landmines?

[native sail]

No no

They are attack bees

[median siren]

i like acid flask so far but saw another thread of someone complaining its got late game nerf problems

[native sail]

You just make them do poison (or ignite)

[median siren]

ohhh ok.

[native sail]

It does

[median siren]

ill just scratch it then. so far dash and flurry are my favorite two

i dont like shuriken. just got pierce

[native sail]

Shuriken is buggy as hell right now anyway

But it actually gets used as a defensive buff a lot lol

[limpid sequoia]

after resetting my pc
clean install and drive wipe

I installed Last Epoch now it's stuck at white loading screen on startup, and
not only does it crash by itself it takes steam with it.
an error window pops up but no text whatsoever and closes near instantly.

anyone know a possible fix?

Graphics Drivers are up to date

[sterile widget]

A few forums posts linked from here talking about this crash issue

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/game-doesnt-start/60797/3

Also, try turning off any overlays (Discord, Steam etc)

[limpid sequoia]

Thanks I'll check it out
been trying to figure it out for a good hour now

Anyone know the lowest values for these?

MasterQuality = Low
TerrainQuality = Low
ShadowQuality = Low
DetailShadows = false
HBAO Quality = Medium
SetHX = Medium
Reflections = Medium
ScreenSpaceReflections = Medium
GrassDensity = Low
antialiasingMode = TAA
ColorGradingIntensity = Medium
vertical Sync = Off
StreamerMode = false
LimitForegroundFPS = true
MaxForegroundFPS = 60
LimitBackgroundFPS = true
MaxBackgroundFPS = 30
SelectedMonitor = 0
ScreenMode = MaximizedWindow
Resolution = 1280x720```

[acoustic thicket]

is spellblade good endgame'

[faint cape]

Yeah, all classes can do well at end game with at least a few builds. They vary a bit in just how many builds, and how easy they are to gear for a first character, but you can't really go too wrong.

[steel drum]

Anyone know what is going on with shuriken? it seems like with the orbit node, it cant be cast again after the first time. Am I doing something wrong?

[limpid sequoia]

The issue is this
I had to turn off Data Execution Prevention
otherwise Last Epoch gives the Error Code 0xc0000005
After turning it off my game works now

Just saying in case it help others with startup crashing issue

[vernal seal]

Someone in chat mentioned a list of confirmed 1k+ corruption builds here somewhere on the discord... Anyone know where that list is?

[sterile widget]

Rad. This is something I had suggested on one thread I think. Glad it worked for you

Hmm. It was ASLR I recommended disabling as a test. Still, same sort of issue

[native sail]

Somewhere in @river fulcrum's brain

[boreal zenith]

Can a Rune of Removal remove an exalted (t6) affix if I'm unlucky? Is there any way to use a Glyph of Despair on a T6 affix?

[surreal verge]

Yes,no

[vocal plank]

If using Cleaver Solution, any amount of + int does nothing right?
I ask because I'm using it with Bastion of honor on an Int character for 100% block chance

[dawn otter]

Does the effect from this show up in the stats tab?

I took it and I don't see my dodge rating going to 0% and my glancing blow increasing

[surreal verge]

No, it doesn't get reflected in the char sheet

[ivory mauve]

Idk if I am doing anything wrong.
First time playing a Sorcerer, going through the first couple maps. I feel like my skills hit like a pillow, am incredibly slow and have no defenses whatsoever.
Is this normal or? Fireball/ Lightning w/e are barely hitting for anything

[knotty hollow]

do i need to target farm Mad Alchemist's Ladle? (being a level 17 drop) or is it just random drop from any runic prison mob?

[surreal verge]

Drop from any exiled mage.

[surreal verge]

You might have a build issue

[knotty hollow]

ok all good, just worried the drop pool is gonna be insane and will take alot of RNG lol

[ivory mauve]

I legit just started off, am level 5 or something

I'm surprised by how bad it feels without anything really going on yet. I don't recall my previous characters having this issue

[surreal verge]

Ah.
Mage has a AoE problem until you either get Lightning Blast chaning, which then it gets better

Or something like fireball pierce or an actual aoe like ele nova

[ivory mauve]

Hell, if it was an aoe problem i'd be fine, but the overall damage is extremely lacking

[surreal verge]

Not really? Never had a damage problem with LB

[ivory mauve]

I tried ele nova, it doesn't do any damage. I have to run around in circles and kite them

[surreal verge]

I don't know what else to tell you tbh

What is your weapon rn?

[ivory mauve]

I haven't found a staff unfortunately

so im still using w/e the mage starts with

[surreal verge]

That's an issue.

You could have used a wand or scepter as well.

[ivory mauve]

I'm just surprised that the early game is this rough

I don't remember it being this bad

[surreal verge]

It's semi class specific, Acolyte is okay only because their starter spell is a REALLY good spell, Sentinel's is defensive enough that no kiteing is needed, rogue's is a multi attack, and primalist is... kinda rough

[ivory mauve]

Guess I'll have to see if I cba to push through until something changes

I can't understate how bad it feels to play rn

[surreal verge]

Sadly I don't think it's an actual issue.

[dry narwhal]

yeah just specialize into lb or glacier early and you will be set

[sterile widget]

I've killed 25 or so and haven't found one yet 😄

Found a Merophage and a Cuckoo though

😄

[vocal plank]

If I have a bleed that does 1k dmg, does that mean 2 bleed will do 2k or is it not additive like that

[surreal verge]

Yes, in theory.

(if you can even hit that number)

[vocal plank]

For bleed damage? That's not really a high number

Maxroll does a bad job about showing DoT numbers. So I went and made my own using what I know about this game and others and how their DoT equations work

Hardest thing I've found is getting the .04% increased damage from different stats, IE int as that's what I use, to match what max says it should be

[surreal verge]

LEtools?

Tho letools only calculate unconditional increases.

[vocal plank]

Haven't used it for calculations. Just used it for filters

[safe harness]

There is a conditional buff feature on le tools but I haven’t used it to know if it would work for bleed

[copper fable]

is this the bleed damage listed in the character page?

if so, ailment damage is shown as its total damage, you have to divide by base duration to see damage per second. For bleed that is 3 iirc, so a single bleed with 1k shown bleed damage is 333 damage per second.

[languid chasm]

hey guys im at the monolith of fate and played with a friend together till this spot but now when i wanna play solo and click on the monolith it tells me timeline is locked

i also redid the monolith before solo and thought it will make it viable now but that was not the chase can someone help me?

[vocal plank]

I assume 3 is the base duration of bleed

[winged crown]

Hi, when a skill casts another skill (in this example flame rush would cast glyph of dominion), does the casted skill inherit all the perks from its skill tree?

[vocal plank]

Yes, assuming you mean that skills tree and not the one casting it

[long lodge]

Good morning. I'm downloading Last Epoch as I type. Looking for advice of good levelling build please.

[winged crown]

Yeah in this example I'm cooking some kind of ignite build and was wondering if I change glyph of dominion to burning, is the glyph of dominion that flame rush casts a burning one aswell or just a normal one

[languid chasm]

imo maxroll guides are really nice

[vocal plank]

I can't recommend guides as I don't use them but maxroll is good

[vocal plank]

Yes, it will be whatever you have set domination to

[winged crown]

Awesome 🤩 Thanks a lot!

[long lodge]

Thank you for the advice

[vocal plank]

Glhf.

[languid chasm]

they have leveling builds for each spec and its easy to follow

[vocal plank]

I have a question now.
If you cast sacrifice on a boss and it procs bone nova, assuming it's on top of the boss, do the bones shotgun?
So if I have bone nova have 100% chance to cause bleed, does that mean I'd inflict 10 bleeds? 1 with sac and 9 with nova, or no

[tall wolf]

What is physical spell???

[vocal plank]

A physical spell is just like a physical melee attack it just uses increases to physical spell damage. Percent increases to spell damage will apply to it but things such as increased melee damage will not without special points in certain skills

[stuck jewel]

Out of curiosity is here anyone who plays either Golem Boneshatter Necro or Skellies necro with a good item loot filter for it?

[surreal verge]

Physical is a damage type in LE, like fire and cold.

[stuck jewel]

Is there an ideal way to use the rune of ascendance or do you just slap it on a base item you need the unique of and pray?

[queen python]

Anyone help with why the servers are soooo lagggy

Can’t even get to play with a friend due to this

[surreal verge]

Pretty much

(Also only the item type matters, so 1h sword gives a 1h sword unique)

[stuck jewel]

Good to know, thanks!

[quasi blaze]

Hey all! I’ll thinking about buying this game is it alive.? I don’t like playing these type of games by myself

[sour crown]

hi, i wanted to ask about choosing servers? is it like diablo type of servers or i just pick one with the lowest latency or ping

[vocal plank]

If you're asking if there is multi, yes. Though I can be kinda iffy at times

[young radish]

For formosus, if I dont turn in the quest can I just keep repeat killing him to farm a unique?

(trying for frostbite shackles)

[vocal plank]

Pick lowest

[quasi blaze]

Okay thank you!

[vocal plank]

Try it real quick. When you kill him portal out and then go back into the portal. It shouldn't turn in the quest and it'll respawn him I'm pretty sure

[vocal plank]

Np. Enjoy yourself

[sour crown]

tq

[unborn ether]

i can't seem to find the npc for "saving last refuge" quest. is it hidden behind the stone?

found it, i'm stupid 🙂

[tawny osprey]

nah, i think all first timers meet the same problem

[stuck jewel]

Been there yesterday 😂
At one point it clicked for me after searching for 5-10 minutes

[tidal panther]

anybody have some fixes for crashing every 5-10 minutes?
Specs:
RTX 3080
AMD 5700X
32gb RAM

i tried verifying files and moving the install to another drive, disabled game overlays, deleted graphics ini.

[thorn pebble]

Same KEKW

[pastel prawn]

does anyone know when the game is gonna come out of early access?

[surreal verge]

1.0, which is planned for end of the year

[pastel prawn]

Cool, are they gonna release some new content with that update?

[steel merlin]

Two subclasses, trade and more stuff

[zinc anchor]

Supposed to be by the end of the year, but I'm not hopeful

[lofty inlet]

do julras stardials stack?

as in, wearing 2 would trigger them both? i assume both would go on cooldown once buff is over

[vocal plank]

Don't worry when I started I did it too

[fresh sapphire]

on my character it says 'deathless solo' at the top of character sheet. does that mean I can't group with anyone?

[subtle kindle]

Solo means you cannot play with others, yes

You need to make a character without the "Solo Account Found" button checked

[fresh sapphire]

hmm, okay. worse than what I was expecting. was thinking I could group with someone and then it would lose the solo tag

thanks for clarification

[subtle kindle]

I think you may be able to migrate your character but I'm unsure

[fresh sapphire]

it's not a big deal. I'm sure I'll end up making lots of other characters. does deathless also mean I'm playing hardcore?

(wasn't sure if I accidentally selected that option)

Haven't died yet at level 33, so not 100% sure either way

[subtle kindle]

Deathless is just to track if you would be alive if you were HC

It's SC-specific

[fresh sapphire]

got it, thanks for the replies

[faint cape]

Yeah, exactly that

[faint cape]

This is a bug, it's supposed to just say "deathless" until you die if you didn't select solo challenge, but the localization text for it says "deathless solo" even if you aren't in solo challenge.

[fresh sapphire]

hmm, so I don't for sure if I'm solo until I try to group with someone?

I can't recall exactly what I selected yesterday

[subtle kindle]

Well if you didn't select in on character creation then you'd be non-solo

Just check on character select screen

if the character says "SC" you're able to group, if it says "SC Solo" you aren't