#šŸ’€ā”ƒacolyte

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pearl snow
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I can’t get one big old chaos bolts out of my head and I feel like it needs armor shred, and some other stuff to just start working at least on a 500 corruption level

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I just have no experience with Aura of decay

obtuse quest
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K? Wat

pearl snow
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I hate my text to speech LOL

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AURA OF DECAY

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ARMOR SHRED

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It looked like it has high value for hit stuff

obtuse quest
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LMAO

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Errr since you take about 15 stacks on yourself without any boosts I think it's about 40-60 stacks?

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57%-68% more physical or 40%-47% more other

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Costing you 30% more physical/21% more other if at 0 armour

pearl snow
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Got it thanks, quite impactful if you set it up

fathom hamlet
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How do you snapshot aura of decay? have a build idea but not sure how the tech works

drifting idol
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think skill AOE buff works well with AoD

obtuse quest
finite galleon
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All this, before you say the answer.

pearl snow
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Lmao

drifting idol
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sounds like romance drama but with a skill

wise basalt
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What's better, putting 80% minion damage or 15 intelligence on ring

lost gale
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probably the int,

brisk tiger
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Hey guys o/ I'm levelling a Witchfire build, and I'm a little confused about the Witchfire spread from Grimhilde's Domain. From the description of the node, all my hits should apply Witchfire to 5 enemies while I have damned/ignite overload, but in practice, I seem to only apply the Witchfire from the effect of the node before it (when I gain either overload), not on hit.

Am I misunderstanding the node? Has anyone here played a Witchfire build and can tell me if it's a bug? If it is, I'll submit a bug report, but I wanted to get some input from other players before posting a report for something that might not be a bug. Thanks <3

wise basalt
lost gale
wise basalt
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Nice

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Also dumb question, how did I get minion health on there?

I have this item since 1 week or so and I literally forgot how I got it that way

lost gale
wise basalt
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Yeah I forgot lol

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I don't think I used a rune

lost gale
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it dropped like that then probably

wise basalt
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And you can't put stuff like this on there?

lost gale
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no, T6 & T7 affixes can't be crafted the usual way with shards

wise basalt
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Wow

lost gale
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runes of havoc will swap which affix has which tier on your item, so you could go from T2 minion health and T7 necrotic res to T7 minion health and T2 necrotic res

hearty meadow
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Am I correct that there's a bit of anti-synergy between Chaotic Rupture (Cthonic Fissures cast chaos bolts) and Return Below (Torment consumes Infernal Shade)? I get that for levelling it probably doesn't matter since stuff dies in 1-2 shades regardless but just wanna make sure I'm thinking about this correctly.

lost gale
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maybe, can you really apply shades faster than even ~60% of the spirits can consume them?

wise basalt
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Also there's no way to get the blue affix from those mages on a unique item right?

hearty meadow
lost gale
ashen storm
finite galleon
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tom You uhh, you have a pair of keen eyes, Amelia

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(On a side note I do not like rabbit meat at all. For all the jumping around it does, the muscle on its hind legs seems to still have one direction that is too loose to bite into. As opposed to frog legs.

ashen storm
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Ty for the compliments!

finite galleon
ashen storm
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Ah, but unironically - it would be cool if Acolyte had some aesthetic to her where she could be more of a Necro Queen, rather than just blood and bones body horror.
Probably not going to happen though, but it’s just a cool dream.

drifting idol
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i have no idea wdym by necro queen

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but that thing is irl horror

ashen storm
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Idk how to explain tbh.
I don’t like to rely on AI too much, but I tried using ChatGPT to word some concepts (I’ll spoiler tag them cause it’s a wall of text and I don’t want to flashbang people with letters)

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||Perfect! Here’s a selection of elegant and thematic skill ideas for a Necro Queen who commands bones and undead with regal poise and aesthetic flair:

āø»

  1. Bone Masquerade
    • Effect: Summons a masked skeletal ball ensemble from nearby corpses.
    • Visuals: A fan of skeletal dancers in tattered finery rises from the ground, performing a courtly waltz that damages and distracts enemies.
    • Aesthetic: Gilded bone masks, elegant spins, and shimmering necrotic trails.

āø»

  1. Marrow Bloom
    • Effect: Enemy bones sprout into floral bone constructs that explode or restrain.
    • Visuals: Delicate blossoms of ivory sprout along limbs, expanding in silent beauty before fracturing in bursts of bone shards.
    • Aesthetic: Resembles a flower blooming in slow motion, petals made of cracked ribs and finger bones.

āø»

  1. Sovereign’s Beckon
    • Effect: Raises royal guards from the graves in ornate bone armor to protect or attack.
    • Visuals: The ground splits with a royal sigil, and tall, armored skeletons rise in synchronized kneeling, then take formation.
    • Aesthetic: Military precision mixed with ceremonial reverence.

āø»

  1. Spine Lattice
    • Effect: Forms a protective or trapping lattice from extracted spines.
    • Visuals: Enemy spines unravel like silk threads and interlock into a hovering web of bone.
    • Aesthetic: The lattice glows faintly with ghostlight; it’s geometric, almost sculptural.

āø»

  1. Dirge of the Hollow Court
    • Effect: A haunting aria resurrects a court of undead nobles who cast spells alongside the queen.
    • Visuals: Figures in bone-patched robes and spectral jewelry fade into existence, bow, then begin chanting.
    • Aesthetic: A fusion of opera and undead procession, moving in elegant unison.

āø»

  1. Boneglass Mirage
    • Effect: Creates illusory doubles made of bone shards and spectral mist.
    • Visuals: Her form shatters into glassy bone fragments that reform into multiple afterimages.
    • Aesthetic: Reflective and kaleidoscopic—like watching her through cracked crystal.

āø»

  1. Crown of the Forgotten
    • Effect: Absorbs the skulls of fallen enemies into a floating halo that grants her power.
    • Visuals: A crown of miniature, gilded skulls rotates behind her head, whispering in a forgotten tongue.
    • Aesthetic: Sacred and eerie, reminiscent of holy iconography but twisted.

āø»

  1. Ossuary Waltz
    • Effect: Summons bones from the battlefield to form a tide of skeletal arms that sweep enemies off their feet.
    • Visuals: A ripple of bones flows outward like fabric, grabbing and twirling enemies.
    • Aesthetic: Fluid, rhythmic motion—almost like bone silk weaving through the battlefield.||
ashen storm
drifting idol
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šŸ¤”

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do you mean skills or aesthetic

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cause i am thinking like, gear or cosmetics when we say aesthetic

finite galleon
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Surely, SURELY we will get one cute necro pet before all this, surely?

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hopium

ashen storm
finite galleon
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????

ashen storm
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you said hopium, I said hopium.. we are on the same page

finite galleon
ashen storm
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ah, so be it šŸ™

finite galleon
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Your editing game is strong

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damn

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I almost typed out something that would've made me look like a perv out of context

ashen storm
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tbh I sometimes try to word smth and then reread what I typed and realize it has some 2nd meaning and not what I meant, so I have to backtrack and edit it to be worded in a better way šŸ’€

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anyway, raw, next question

gritty cargo
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yeah you can put that 26% modifier on something with it's own 26% modifier like a pale ox, and get like 1000 hp from just chest

finite galleon
gritty cargo
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pale ox is just really strong even if you have no minions, you generally have a skill on your bar that is being autocast and you dont need it on the bar, and can summon a bone golem before going into higher damage situations and get the -28% health taken part of the chestpiece, but it's crazy good even without that

finite galleon
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You are a disgrace to our people, Javors.

finite galleon
gritty cargo
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can also have a crab-ring on and summon a crab before going in high damage situation, but the crab has like 800 hp, so it kinda instant dies so the damage reduction doesnt even really last as long as using chronowarp and getting the i-frames

drifting idol
gritty cargo
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its just pale ox is greatest thing of all time rn

drifting temple
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with skeleton vanguards ox is 100% uptime in echos

gritty cargo
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those cast without being on the bar on a warlock and lich?

drifting temple
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it is not a skill it is a node

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lich tree harvested legions

gritty cargo
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oh ok nice I didnt see it bone curse has a autocast for it for 3 points

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now I dont know what ill put in unused bar skill spot ill try to figure out something

stable mesa
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I've been trying to mess w/the new Pearls of the Swine amulets, the Decrepify one took my eye mainly as it scales it's damage based on missing health and curse flat scales per second. But I'm struggling to figure out a way to add DR into the build, Basically it stacks as much health as possible, as much flat curse damage as possible and then goes low life.

I'm using Pale Ox because it's a lot of % health and some DR, Will get 6-10% DR from curses (Warlock), and stacking some armor so I reach about 39%, but it still feels very low despite a big hp pool

fathom hamlet
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Also what idols/gear pieces are the best for aod?

drifting idol
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at some point, i just feel like

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i might just go for fire ignite, rather than witchfire loool

kind forge
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harvest ye

finite galleon
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THAT too, over abomination?

drifting idol
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fire has a lot of support

finite galleon
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are we even buddies at this point?

drifting idol
drifting idol
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šŸ‘…

finite galleon
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bruh

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(check your dm for 5 bucks)

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anyway you gotta give it a try man, you don't even have to snapshot most of the time

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it's uhh

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it's entirely optional

hearty meadow
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Did death seal always have a max duration? Last time I played acolyte was back in early access and I don't remember that.

zenith current
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eyo

stuck owlBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (28) / Necromancer (85)

General:

ā–ø Health: 3,645, Regen: 97.2/s
ā–ø Mana: 102.51, Regen: 8/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 123%, Regen: 8/s
ā–ø Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 34 Int / 1 Att / 81 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 81% / 77% / 67% / 106% / 82% / 171% / 101%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 67%, Threshold: 875
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,307)

zenith current
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conceptually it seems a lot of flat but i dunno if it has the multis

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Good freeze rate too

wintry flame
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even snapshotting them didn't feel good when I tested Golems

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Not enough multis tbh, even if you opt for putting a shade on each one and having perma crit. Also in your setup you don't have anything to remove health decay so you'd be respawning them faster than the CD of Dread Shade. If you take the All for One Node and want to dread shade multiple minions then you have to take everlasting poison and resummon of CD

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Anyway, point being that any other minion skill would be better. In terms of multipliers I'd rank things like Abom > Zombies > Wraiths/Wraithlord > Revenant > Skeleton Rogues > Skeletal Mages > Skeleton Archers > Golem > Skeleton Warriors

finite galleon
wintry flame
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Yeah Abom has so many lmao at large values too.

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if only I had the amulet to test Revenant 😦

finite galleon
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Which do you love more, revenant or skelly rogue

wintry flame
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I haven't played much of revenant tbh I like the minion, but no proper way to scale it fully. Rogues are nice after they changed them I was gonna mess with them but never did. Glad I did this season

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so probably Rogues atm

drifting idol
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does this shard work with cthonic frissure node??

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looks like something i want to slam

hearty meadow
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Directly cast so probably not

drifting idol
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still good enough for chaos bolts, right?

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this and cast speed work well together looks like

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and on hit damned ignite etc

willow verge
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my fissure is scaling with ignite chance from "fissure of wrath"node. This node "mantle of flames"benefits me?

hearty meadow
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Fissure of Wrath doesn't say global ignite chance so probably?

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If you're meaning does it increase the stun chance

willow verge
raven marten
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are you using malatros?

willow verge
raven marten
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mantle of flames applies to the fissure, not the whips, it is for dumping your last points as it is something

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afaik, it does basically nothing for you because you (proabably) arent dot based

willow verge
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yeah

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thanks

raven marten
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malatros gives you way too many points, i thnk you only need 24 or 25 to have a maxed out fissure for the build

native bison
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How witch fire doing so far?

raven marten
north summit
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I heard a player killed Uber Abby in HC with a Golem build? Anyone know about this?

finite galleon
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damn, respect

pearl snow
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Flame Whips don’t get more Ignite chance via Mantle that feeds into the spell dmg / stun chance. All it does is pump more ignite stacks out which lets you Ignite Overload quicker basically

pearl snow
pearl snow
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It can do 500 no problem

native bison
austere granite
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Hi, stat " Damage Leeched as Health While Transformed " Does it include the damage over time of the poison?

gritty cargo
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technically could kill uber abby on any build if you spend long enough in there

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just go zero hit for 1.5 hours

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this here means with 0 increases anywhere, and I added 100% spell damage, it would be like increasing it 175%, and if I added 100% increased dot damage, It would increase 700%?

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the tooltip doesnt really help an increase of 10% spell damage or 10% dot damage in skill tree doesnt really move it all too much its like 30 damage difference on a 100,000 dps ability

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I know tooltip on this one is one of the most innacurate things ive seen in the game so far

old hull
gritty cargo
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so if you have something say a 1lp wand there's no reason to ever pick the damage over time, or pick an element, just get spell damage?

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cause they're all the same rolls

oak minnow
gritty cargo
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wands dont have +flat affix tho

kind forge
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well or as a substitute for a weapon base on melee weapons since they dont have it there

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uniques/sets dont count~

gritty cargo
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since im getting +200 flat from snapshotting rip blood id probably prio pen over flat in my build if flat and pen were even a possible thing to get on stuff

kind forge
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thats not really snapshotting uwu

gritty cargo
oak minnow
pearl snow
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Its great for clear

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Not bossing

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My Normal Abby kill took 4mins in pretty decent gear

gritty cargo
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If I could get a lp 2 ghost maker it would be big damage activating chronowarp and swapping it off for ghost maker right before activating skill, then swapping back to chronowarp for the haste on hit passive

fading topaz
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Is Infernal shade needed? bec I can only do one skill to buff one time?

pearl snow
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you are using scales from the looks of it

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so you can only use 1 shade

native bison
pearl snow
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It is fun

fading topaz
pearl snow
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yes if you want to use that weapon

obtuse quest
obtuse quest
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half bone
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what are the absolute best acolyte builds with very high survivability and low amount of buttons?

gritty cargo
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highest survivability + lowest buttons and not some fringe offmeta thing like the ghostflame, probably a wraithlord / abom necro

pearl snow
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if you set yourself up right as necro yeah I bet itd be pretty comfy

half bone
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(i was already leveling a necromancer šŸ˜‰ )

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what about non pets?]

gritty cargo
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ghostflame has potential to not be meme im working on a snapshot rotation that makes it actually do rod

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have julra's stardials with spell damage + damage over time 70 + 120 + 120 = 310% increase x2 of them 620% increase
have lich envy gloves +24 flat
have reaper form up +8 flat
enter mono
use rip blood on the first pack of shitters with pyre of affliction equipped
+200 spell rip blood +40 spell immolator's oblivion

quickly equip wrongwarp
use transplant
casting transplant makes the two julra's stardials go from 620% to 1860% increase
movement speed is 210%, wrongwarp increases spell damage by 620% + with 2lp has 280% on it = 900%

To be determined. Wrongwarp has 60 flat on it, is there anything that provides enough flat + other bonus that will do more then the 620% from chronowarp
If there is something swap to it. (still use chronowarp in the rotation because the 35% movespeed will snapshot)

use ghostflame

swap gloves to Atrophy
swap rings to Flames of Midnight
swap weapon back to pyre of affliction (temporary)
swap belt to Ward Trail

pearl snow
# half bone what about non pets?]

Non pets isn’t as comfy because you cant all in your personal defense as much. Torment is pretty comfy because its lowish buttons and aims to extend Profane Veil which is really your only defensive

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Acolyte just really hates ever being hit

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So its not as comfy without dropping damage by a good bit

vivid kernel
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my solution to being squishy was always more damage as a warlock

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More damage, faster damage, more shit on the enemy debuff bar

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Even after I got double red rings the build wasn’t exactly ā€œtankyā€

gritty cargo
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Lich is tanky it's like 60% armor doge and 1200 ward per second kinda hard to die with 28% of damage going to minion 10% of damage going to shattered world and all the other % less damage things kinda hard to die unless you get some kind of double champion both hitting hard attack at the same time and one crits

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Then somehow get hit for a 4500 crit and oops it removed lich form just play super timid till lich form is ready again

lost gale
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what kind of lich has ward?

finite galleon
obtuse quest
lost gale
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isn't death seal most of the reason to be a lich?

obtuse quest
jagged thistle
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anyone else playing autozomber? does the unique effect of cycle of putrescence stack, so that you guarantee 2 zombie revives?

gritty cargo
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there's not really anything all that good in death seal tree

finite galleon
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@obtuse quest Kzb sama 😩 Please give me your energy. I only need to hit one of them, even the shittiest one is totally fine.

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I don't have it in me to farm more

earnest lichen
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Those are painful to farm

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Glgl

finite galleon
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BlessRNG BlessRNG

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tnx drew

jagged thistle
finite galleon
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Aaaannnd bricked

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all of them

atomic atlas
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unlucky

drifting idol
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Gloves with tongue😳

finite galleon
chrome mason
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would.

obtuse quest
drifting idol
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Sticking what?

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Thought tongue kissing was the way

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šŸ‘…

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Well uhm

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What unique gloves could be good for witchfire build actually

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šŸ¤” i only need one experiemental affix on gloves, so 1 lp makes it up

gray spear
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Yes, each cast to eat a minion is 2 or 3 beams for dealing damage, and it only eats 3 at once, so I've found that it's not usually worth it.
In my current build, I'm not using any eaten minions at all and am using rip blood for the damage and attack speed buff.
Zombies are okay; I'm just trying things to see if anything works for Uber.
In monos, zombies aren't worth it, since most things are 1-shot, so you could buff damage a little or kill 6 enemies in the same time

half bone
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it actually only eats 3 at once?

gray spear
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I didn't play when it ate more; that sounds pretty crazy

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It only does 3 in a cast, and the eat cast is slow

obtuse quest
vivid monolith
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I give my wraithlord the body from transplant and he likes it omegalul

drifting idol
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This looks viablešŸ¤”

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Any item with necro pen?

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Im thinking either burning avarice or isadora 2 piecešŸ¤”

drifting temple
drifting temple
pearl snow
# drifting idol Im thinking either burning avarice or isadora 2 piecešŸ¤”

Isadoras does not help with Witchfire specifically. It only gives you some more damned
Stacks
. Fire pen with ignite won’t scale with Witchfire either of course. If you want global Fire Pen there is a different set of gloves for that.
Most of us just use Eternal Gauntlets and get good affixes for whatever you need

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You’d use these for fire pen if you really wanted to go unique gloves and more dps. I’d get at least lp2 though because you’ll want DoT or Necro res on it if you don’t need other resistance or crit avoidance / reduction of course

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Lp2 is a 1 in 8 though and its a common drop. Should be an easy farm compared to nearly everything

drifting idol
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real

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thing is i would have to roll the affix on eternal gauntlet then

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and that means i have far less control over it šŸ’€

pearl snow
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WELCOME TO ARPGS

drifting idol
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rng gaming

pearl snow
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Experimental stuff isn’t so bad anymore because of the weaver tree allowing you to force mages to come into content

drifting idol
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witchfire is so specific tho goddamn

pearl snow
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Yep, it’s a dual element non specific DoT

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The relic is new to this league you used to not really be able to spread it lol

drifting idol
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ia there any tool in game where i can see the damage pie chart

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bcz i dont even know what damage i am doing the most loool

obtuse quest
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There we go!

drifting temple
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thats actually good

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maybe will be playable now

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as extra ward source

pearl snow
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Lmao

drifting idol
pearl snow
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Ah well Kzb and I can basically give you the rundown but the best way to do it is checking your Skill / Ailment on LET

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It has tags, now granted Witchfire is mossing the fire and necro tags

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Lol

drifting idol
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oooo so there is a simulator function on LET?

pearl snow
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Yeah if you go to the skill or ailment drop down.
LET is basically just data scraped off the game

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But heres a short blerb

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Grimhilde’s Domain scales witchfire with a ā€œmoreā€ modifier rather than Increased so the Chance to Ignite and Damned is actually Multiplicative not Additive

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Isadora’s unfortunately doesn’t count as it is chance to apply with necrotic skills. And even if the passive tree says global with necrotic skills. It is somehow not the same

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Lol

drifting idol
pearl snow
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Yes, in 9/10 cases I’d say more is better

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Flat damage which isn’t possible for DoT

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Is the main exception sometimes

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Witchfire also has stupid high base dmg

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Damned I believe starts at 30 per tick / stack. Ignite is 45. And Witchfire is 300 Fire 300 Necro per tick

drifting idol
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ok i am starting to understand better how scaling works šŸ¤”

drifting temple
pearl snow
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TRUE

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Reading comprehension POG

drifting temple
pearl snow
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Good correction I always under assume its value

drifting idol
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huh

drifting temple
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ye it was 300/300 before . they buffed it kinda long time ago

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noone did rly strong wf build this season tho. maybe its just not possible with current numbers

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warlock overall is kinda ehh.. well not this time i guess haha. and idk if they are planning sime number tweaks for warlock next season

obtuse quest
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Witchfire is a single stack ailment so it's kinda stuck in that kind of hell

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It's at least like, top of the class on it's intended job, which is deleting trash mobs.

drifting temple
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ye but here is brand for mages doing 15mil damage per tick on dummy

hollow flint
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Oh, self hit penance got killed together with normal penance, rip

drifting idol
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lol

willow verge
vivid monolith
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Infinite duration frostwall snapshot

gaunt abyss
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the warithlord attacks count as spells?

obtuse quest
gaunt abyss
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thanks!
gonna try making one, lets see how it go XD

atomic atlas
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playing frost crows duel wileding apogees after grinding two acolytes to 100... wow ....

gritty cargo
gaunt abyss
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any recomadention for wriathlord build?

wise basalt
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The only annoying thing as a necro is with high corruption you have to play perfect against bosses because pretty much anything is one hit

willow verge
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anyone playing malatros flame whip build? any tips?

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better investing in intelligence or necrotic resistanc?

wise basalt
gaunt abyss
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wise basalt
drifting idol
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drifting idol
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pen for dot is nice thošŸ¤”

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ye

stuck owlBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (27) / Necromancer (78)

General:

ā–ø Health: 2,297, Regen: 18.88/s
ā–ø Mana: 98.47, Regen: 8/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 163%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 52 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 65% / 112% / 65% / 64% / 72% / 109% / 79%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 459
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 6% (171)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 18% (551)
ā–ø Crit Avoidance: 60%

drifting temple
willow verge
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pearl snow
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Yeah Flame Whip defense is necrotic res on whip

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Unless you are low lifing it

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Then hp% also good

willow verge
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yeah. Im using exsanguinou + last steps + T7missing health on gloves

willow verge
stuck owlBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Primalist (25) / Shaman (63) / Druid (25)

General:

ā–ø Health: 4,019, Regen: 23/s
ā–ø Mana: 519.51, Regen: 27.44/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 68 Str / 15 Dex / 15 Int / 173 Att / 15 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 61% / 143% / 96% / 92% / 93% / 71% / 76%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 57%, Threshold: 915
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 5% (135)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 58% (4,073)
ā–ø Crit Avoidance: 33%

raven marten
stuck owlBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (28) / Warlock (64)

General:

ā–ø Health: 2,542, Regen: 20.86/s
ā–ø Mana: 151, Regen: 11.04/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 201%, Regen: 367/s
ā–ø Attributes: 4 Str / 15 Dex / 39 Int / 13 Att / 21 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 131% / 75% / 75% / 103% / 89% / 710% / 51%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 508
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 2% (60)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 16% (522)

lost gale
drifting idol
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yea somehow showed me already

lost gale
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oh my bad

naive forge
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anyoone have a decent loot filter for wraithlord

delicate belfry
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stygian coal is our strongest version?

gritty cargo
delicate belfry
glass estuary
willow verge
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is twisted heart better than soulfire? for a malatros flame whip warlock build

raven marten
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i dont think so, its just a stat stick, soulfire is really for damage and stuns

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and you acn actually get 2-3LP soulfire vs twisted heart

willow verge
raven marten
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uleros

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assuming you are low life

willow verge
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yeah. im LL

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Will try to kill uber with that build

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saw it is possible

gritty cargo
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need more snapshot

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after I snapshot other weapons I put this on last and it will increase my damage 48%?

atomic atlas
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ur swaping weapons mid fight?

gritty cargo
atomic atlas
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what build

eager agate
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weirdest one ive seen

gritty cargo
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ghostflame

gaunt abyss
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hmm now that i think (i normaly dont), in low life build endurace is always active no?

raven marten
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correct, there is (almost) no health to protect

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unless its its some jank seed of ekkadrasil mom thing maybe, is that even a thing

atomic atlas
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dread shade snapshotting is a whole other level of unethical

finite galleon
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lizard_Pig And I will spread it to the world REEEEE (actually no, the interest in abomination isn't going to be high enough)

atomic atlas
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saw 60m without the 65% buff from harvest

finite galleon
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PogW

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But yeah a number of other builds have higher dps from what I've heard

drifting idol
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dropped 3LP belt in build

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nice

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how good is soulfeast?

drifting idol
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oh they added indicator for downfall of the righteous's witchfire aura, nice

candid escarp
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I've decided to be stupid again

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I'm going to try and make Reaper work for me.

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well, Lich

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and non necrotic, I'm not sure if I'm aiming for phys or poison.

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or heck fire I spose X if I dip into warlock tree

stable mesa
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Alright what's the best way to self curse

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I just need one

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Oh wait, nevermind. I have a very easy way

candid escarp
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theres a low level unique shield that explodes in indiscriminate marked for death

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constantly

stable mesa
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I'll just use Grave Circle from Profane Veil

gritty cargo
gloomy eagle
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anyone wanna help with my necromancer?

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first ever summoner build in any game. reached emp monoliths but the clearspeed sucks and my minions die constantly

candid escarp
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does anything cast Hungering Souls indirectly?

old hull
drifting idol
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@pearl snow actually how does damned/ignite on hit scale with witchfire at all? during witchfire overload time they don't do anything right?

pearl snow
drifting idol
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oooo i see

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on hit ignite chance adds to dmg

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in all honesty i should maybe skip bone curse or smth

pearl snow
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What are you skipping it for?

atomic atlas
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fire minions mm

gloomy eagle
atomic atlas
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shades bring up minion dps a lot

gloomy eagle
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And you say that so easy. Every blessing you see is taken cuz I didn't fot the one I wanted after 2 or 3 times. Really unlucky with blessings with this character

atomic atlas
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get threat on golem

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add shade

gloomy eagle
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Aight thanks

atomic atlas
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are your minions dying?

gloomy eagle
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Yes in empowered monoliths they do now

atomic atlas
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drop that for int or health/minion stats. idk those seem meh

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the bottom part of golem adds threat and tankiness

gloomy eagle
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Shade is that skill that kills ur minions after a time?

atomic atlas
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but yeah zoo builds are kinda meh

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focusing necrotic dmg is decent tho, fire idk some ppl do it till like 300 cor

gloomy eagle
gloomy eagle
atomic atlas
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single focus minions are more meta

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necrotic felt worse?

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shade adds a lot of necrotic

drifting idol
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rip blood?

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seems nice, maybe i should do rip blood

kind forge
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now that i think about it ... playing harvest lich feels like playing a
slower
smaller
less dmg
necrotic
shatter strike

gritty cargo
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But the RP!

kind forge
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lol

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and more stressful cuz death seal'

gritty cargo
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That echo with the 5 shades is so much fun

kind forge
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lol

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the only thing they are about the same in is how easy they are to crit cap

gritty cargo
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If only death seal autobombed infernal shade

kind forge
kind forge
gritty cargo
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Like the death seal releases would act like chaotic fissure spirits and detonate the infernal shade prematurely

kind forge
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ig

pearl snow
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whats your current setup?

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Bone curse provides a lot, Mark of Death. Blanket More Dmg via the Curse itself, can also be paired with Decripify Neck for 15% more DoT.
Kill Threshold or chill if you go that route too

kind forge
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cold aura of decay uwu

drifting idol
kind forge
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cold harvest to go with cold reap uwu

pearl snow
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Bone Curse can give you 2 curses at least. Another from Veil

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Veil also super defensive so

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and good offense

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IMO

drifting idol
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thing is

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that frees a button lol

drifting idol
pearl snow
drifting idol
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Not too hard but it is nonbo with ward gen

finite galleon
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You know what time it is shinobu

vivid kernel
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Ayo looks like they fixed the self curse penance server meltdown build someone posted here the other day

finite galleon
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wth is that tom

wintry flame
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one sec

vivid kernel
wintry flame
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yeah that lmao

swift wren
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I don't have mana issues on my stygian lich. Instead of mana blessing, would chance to shock or stun be better, stun right since we don't have stun chances so the shock increasing stun chance is pointless?

prime smelt
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You get a more multiplier based on your current mana so having a bigger mana pool is more damage.

swift wren
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Oof definitely missed that. Makes sense to take mana then lol

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Omg it's on stygian. Got so sidetracked by int that I forgot there was another % based stat

kind forge
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lol

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that feeling when transplant kills you because your at 1 life and have bleeding heart on

silver night
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man, i hate this

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the reward is gone

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😭

kind forge
# silver night

ye for some reason resetting it doesnt work and it just eats your key

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and sends you back to end of time

kind forge
vivid kernel
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I actually love that attack, free damage, and then you double swap at the last moment and carry on

kind forge
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lol

kind forge
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shattered chain or the volatile reversal belt for harvest?

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i know life drain uses the belt cuz int uwu

silver night
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insta dead

lost gale
#

the radius indicator on downfall of the righteous is pretty nice

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it's bigger than I had thought it was

zinc jay
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Stygian Coal Lich

lyric idol
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Yeah

viscid yarrow
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Yo, does anyone have any thoughts on the Witchfire build? I love the gameplay of this build, but I’m having a bit of trouble choosing the right gear.

stuck owlBOT
zinc jay
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Stygian Coal Lich can this build kill uberotth with 1/2lp items ?

strange kiln
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So going by the patch notes, was imprinting buffed so it’s not useless anymore?

zenith current
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There's two types of people

chrome mason
finite galleon
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FeelsGoodMan

zinc jay
viscid yarrow
obtuse quest
kind forge
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the puke puddles are annoying expecially on my current char

kind forge
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something like archmage skele mage tho ... ye it needs it

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then again resummoning it is easy

chrome mason
# zinc jay So need more lp ?

You dont need it, but the fight is less of a drag if you just have 3LP Ladle & Coal (Which are not hard to get tbh)

finite galleon
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Although if someone would like to do echoes with the infinite poison stacks thingy, he probably needs to boost its health a bit (sounds extreme kekw)

zinc jay
chrome mason
median pebble
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any torment warlocks clearing uberoth and 1k corruption?

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or any warlocks for that matter apart from spine of malatros

lost gale
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the other warlock build I know of that could do that got killed in the last patch

native bison
median pebble
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yeah I have pretty good gear for torment but both damage and defense just dont seem to cut it

obtuse quest
lost gale
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witchfire is kinda fragile for 1kc tho

median pebble
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has anyone tried witchfire + ghostflame, scaling damned chance?

silver night
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not yet

obtuse quest
median pebble
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that is more of an annoyance then build breaking stuff, if ghostflame solves single target dps, I would put up with it

lost gale
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doesn't fissure & bolts do more dps than ghostflame along with proccing witchfire better?

silver night
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for single target bit hard?

obtuse quest
lost gale
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ghostflame is ~700% damage effectiveness/s

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pretty sure bolts proccing rip blood is more than that

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also ghostflame doesn't hit so you can't take advantage of all your on-hit stuff without speccing it into that which isn't the single target dps maximising ghostflame spec

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ghostflame is just kinda mid

obtuse quest
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It's top tier for defense though.

lost gale
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sure but if i'm building in to a warlock skill for defensive purposes then it'll be profane veil

median pebble
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what i am wondering is if ghostflame setupt can use damned/ignite chance better then cbolt setups

lost gale
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whatever your itemisation for chance to apply damned (which will be a lot for any witchfire build) chaos bolts will inflict it faster than ghostflame

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and damned is a pretty lowdps ailment in the first place, not very well supported

median pebble
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thanks, that is what I was looking for

obtuse quest
median pebble
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so part spine of malatros setups, warlocks is looking kind of mid this patch, I guess

native bison
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My fissure doesn't seem to be triggering overload, only chaos bolts. Is this normal?

obtuse quest
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Which it barely does. Double ignite and triple damned chance.

obtuse quest
lost gale
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chaos bolts casts pretty fast when you just hold the button down, so it triggers overloads pretty reliably

near hearth
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from your opinion and experience what is the most fun beetwen necro and lich???

finite galleon
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Embryo talking about anything other than dots challenge 怐IMPOSSIBLE怑

obtuse quest
lost gale
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dot proliferation >>>>> snapshotting minions.
search your feelings, you know it to be true

finite galleon
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NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN

lyric idol
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Oh man it's gonna be soooo nice when snapshotting is gone

finite galleon
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I WON'T HEAR ANY OF THIS

obtuse quest
lyric idol
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I know they love minions and I'm gonna stay hopeful that they'll give them a good balancing lol

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let's hope they don't go the GGG route and remove something and ignore why it was necessary to do in the first place

obtuse quest
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Honestly, unless both shades are changed, most of the top meta will still be at best "small army of double shade buffed minions"

near hearth
lost gale
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profane oblation is such a based build, I wish it worked a bit better

obtuse quest
near hearth
lost gale
prime smelt
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The node that removes leech ?

lost gale
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yeah

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turns leech into damage

obtuse quest
prime smelt
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Maybe some super niche build but generally you will not be having a good time if you do that

shell spindle
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how do i scale wraithlord damage to the moon?

obtuse quest
lyric idol
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šŸ»

finite galleon
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Noice

lost gale
drifting idol
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Lol this rare is cool as hell

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terminator, the laser crab

drifting idol
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struggling at 300 corruption lmao šŸ’€

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somehow i am keeping getting 1 shot by random mobs when i have like 6k ward šŸ’€

lyric idol
#

are you crit capped? either avoidance or reduced damage taken

lost gale
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you don't really need to cap reduced, 80-90% is probably enough for crits not to really matter, but you do need to cap avoid

lyric idol
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not both at the same time though lol

lost gale
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oh, yeah

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and don't mix and match them

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you either need 100% avoid or >~80% reduction

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50% avoid 50% reduction is probably still going to get you killed a lot

gritty cargo
# lost gale can lich even make use of hollow lich? Seems not

if you're doing damage where you're causing a lot of bleeding and get the rip bloods autobombing from the warlock tree, and the rip bloods autobombing from the bone curse, the health regen from the rip bloods are enough to sustain with hollow lich, but unless using spine of malatros as a +9 level stat stack, and you have the +40% leech on it so it becomes 400% spell damage, there isnt really enough gain out of it to justify giving up the leech or even giving up the skill points

lost gale
pearl snow
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You’d have to have a lot of int for rip blood to sustain a good chunk of hp

lost gale
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bleed overload being 1 cast/s is pretty underwhelming

pearl snow
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Yeah I think CB can proc it 4/sec

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Bone Curse can proc on timeout

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And Rip Blood can recast on kill

lost gale
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recast on kill precludes getting health or ward back tho

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CB is a very based skill

pearl snow
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An

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Yeah the only archetype I know thats consistent on Ripblood auto casts is bleed lock

wintry flame
wintry flame
drifting temple
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Heresy

wintry flame
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hmm?

drifting temple
drifting idol
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@lyric idol @lost gale dunno what these stats are for, im new

lost gale
# drifting idol <@215527701933457409> <@181382775725621248> dunno what these stats are for, im n...

enemies have a small chance to crit you on each attack, which is pretty deadly, but there are two stats you can get (crit reduction & crit avoidance) which prevent this.

crit avoidance is a chance for a crit to deal normal damage, if you have 99% avoidance then when the enemies crit 99% of the time you just take normal damage and 1% of the time you take a full crit which can still be deadly.

crit reduction applies to every crit and reduces the extra damage from critting by the % reduction so 99% crit reduction means every crit only deals a tiny amount of extra damage to you so they're not really dangerous.

Does that make sense?

drifting idol
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Seems like reduction is more manageable

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I feel like i am not doing enough offensively and defensively

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Dang, only last 2 harbingers left though

fallen umbra
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never played acolyte really, what is easiest acolyte build get run from ground?

atomic atlas
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probably fissure

fallen umbra
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is it many button build?

atomic atlas
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na

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one button for the most part and it auto casts a bunch of stuff

spice hound
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I've seen conflicting things about Lich, do they want to run Atlaria or Phantom Grip?

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Phantom grip seems kind weird just for the crit chance

atomic atlas
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red ring is op

spice hound
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I was thinking mad alchemist/stygian coal/double t7 red ring

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Sounds fun

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But idk if I should wait for lich changes first

atomic atlas
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thats the meta its just hard to get the first two

spice hound
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next season

atomic atlas
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i mean its fun

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pew pew pew

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face tank everything

spice hound
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Lich model looks a lot cooler with graphical update

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I haven't played it since launch and it's come far tbh

obtuse quest
north lance
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I haven't played any transforming class yet

pearl snow
drifting temple
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hmm. they know better ofc. but this number seems like a bit off for regular user

lost gale
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I'm not calling the guy a liar but I just don't see how that could be true

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If your when-hit triggered soul feast hits 13 enemies but penance only triggers once on you with a 0.01s cooldown then that single self-hit isn't likely to trigger soul feast again reliably

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it may still be triggering soul feast quickly if you're hitting quickly, but it shouldn't be a loop without the ability to translate multi-hits into multiple penance instances, which any cooldown should prevent afaict

ancient jewel
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Hello I've joined the game for less than a month now. I've been trying some build for acolyte and it seems like necromancer minion (melee) build is very clunky.

It feels like it's missing a node in the tree like a skill that would allow melee minion to jump to said area instantly or so. The more you lvl that node or affixes (to tier 7) the more range/speed/dmg it would have.
The skill would appear only if all the possible minion have spawned for said skill (ex: 2 for mage at base lvl). And it would replace said skill until one minion dies of that skill.

lost gale
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There's an item modifier which makes travel skills like transplant bring x minions along with you, that's typically used to relocate your minions in a pinch

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you can also make them move to cursor with with the a key which mostly works well

ancient jewel
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oh alright that's something to work thanks. For skill which is Q or A depending on keyboard. It works but the minion running is weird it's slowing near the target. Which make the gameplay very slow

spice hound
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Yeah, it's an experimental affix that feels extremely important for minion builds

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If you kill the mages you'll find the affix

pearl snow
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Granted, I’m just like napkin it but the reality is it’s probably the only stable loop that they’re able to create

obtuse quest
ancient jewel
pearl snow
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Kinda sucks you cant go blood wraiths though because itll just suck all the mana outta you

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But Bone Curse and Autosac goes WILD

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Every bone curse cast took 300mana

hybrid forum
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is this a sign for whipper?

pearl snow
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Wow thats basically perfect

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You don’t even need the +9 honestly

hybrid forum
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i failed the same slam on a +9

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but this one should be good enough

pearl snow
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Thats basically BiS outside of a 3LP of the same

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You only really care about having +6 and max crit multi plus added spell

hybrid forum
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i'll give the build a try after i feel my vk is min-maxed

pearl snow
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500 and I had 25 regen I think.
Just enough for Zombies + parasites but not enough for Blood Spectres

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I even ran that MoM helm lmao

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If only I could scale Sac with mana

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The infernal shade applicator version did slightly better but at that point why even use auto sac

humble forge
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I've got a cruelty based build that, surprisingly, got me past normal Abby. It spams harvest with the "mana on harvest use" affix to fix the mana problems.

pearl snow
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Yeah I couldn’t find a great chest for that but you got through normal abby?

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Can you share for reference?

humble forge
stuck owlBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Necromancer (10) / Lich (81)

General:

ā–ø Health: 3,001, Regen: 11.83/s
ā–ø Mana: 204.5, Regen: 11.12/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 146%, Regen: 16/s
ā–ø Attributes: 8 Str / 1 Dex / 73 Int / 1 Att / 9 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 73% / 56% / 59% / 70% / 41% / 186% / 93%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 57%, Threshold: 600
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,602)

calm dome
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Does the blood splatter nodes from Rip Blood affect the blood splatters generated from Soul Feast?

pearl snow
humble forge
pearl snow
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Oh sick

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Didn’t even think about Lich

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Nice

coarse gyro
#

Is anyone playing Flame Whip warlock? I have a few questions

finite galleon
wintry flame
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that's pretty good šŸ˜› I was hoping to see 1 shot boss dummy 😦

#

1bil hit lets go

wintry flame
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you don't care about mana so you just stay -100 mana omegalul might be good to pair with the ward per missing mana boots

finite galleon
# wintry flame 1bil hit lets go

omegalul I'm pretty sure cheesing out the largest possible number on dummies involves that node that only boosts abom damage for the first 8 sec it is summoned

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dunno if it is also triggered again after changing zones, if so then it sounds super doable. I'm not a big numba kind of guy tho.

kind forge
wintry flame
finite galleon
#

?????

wintry flame
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Snapshotting is only for big numbers

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šŸ˜›

finite galleon
#

Fate has led me here 😭

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It's not what it looks like 😭

kind forge
#

can you put champion mods on uniques?

wintry flame
#

no

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they are sealed

kind forge
#

sad

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true

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woulda been nice to get +1 skele on lethal thingy spear

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or an extra companion

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on primalst

wintry flame
#

would be nice indeed 😦

pearl snow
kind forge
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also really wish i wasnt forced to spec wolf when im using stormcrow

wintry flame
pearl snow
#

Wtf

wintry flame
#

I didn't fully build it

pearl snow
#

How

kind forge
#

just dead skills that you only take to buff other skills sadge

pearl snow
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The highest I saw on shade, granted I was a warlock and didn’t have great gear and was in positive mana was like 100k explosions

kind forge
#

rogue has one too taking cinder strike when you use burning daggers on heartseeker

pearl snow
#

On a dunny

kind forge
#

at least when you buff flire aura on flame ward you still use flame ward

wintry flame
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I have an auto loop that spawns a bunch of minions so I just tp through map and the shade gets buffed, removed, replaced, then sacs cause it to increase damage which spawns more minions, that hold the damage shade šŸ˜›

wise leaf
#

Does anyone know if increased damage over time also applies to the explosion of internal shade? The skill has the damage over time tag but the explosion can crit so not sure

obtuse quest
kind forge
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unless it says from rip blood specifically

wintry flame
#

it won't inherit those mods

obtuse quest
#

How the heck are mine doing that much damage

wintry flame
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a skill mutator that parents a sub skill will pass on it's damage but if the damage doesn't map to the subskills tags it won't apply. So Ele dot won't apply to a hit based spell

wise leaf
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Was looking to specc into spiteful decay passive, but guess thats off the table

pearl snow
#

Sounds like someone just test with no gear on lol

wintry flame
#

I mean you can double check, but it shouldn't work in that way

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smh making me leave slormancer 😦

obtuse quest
wintry flame
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I haven't played in forever. No minions tho 😦

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or like ones I'd like

obtuse quest
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I'm just playing funny inner fire

wintry flame
#

Ravenous daggers for meeee

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it's so fun lmao

thorn grove
#

started playing stygian coal lich and was wondering why the build guide goes for rip blood over harvest, mana sustain would be a lot better with harvest with the chest affix

wintry flame
#

needs direct use of harvest? I believe

obtuse quest
wintry flame
#

LMAOOOOOO

thorn grove
#

instead of the crit multi blessing you could take spell leech to help a ton with that, the build already has so much multi

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the melee part is annoying yeah

#

rip blood just feels so sluggish

obtuse quest
thorn grove
#

still leveling tbf XD just thinkin out loud

wintry flame
#

I just realized something I never tested and accidentally found it lmao

#

I've started my infinite loop on accident...

obtuse quest
thorn grove
kind forge
#

only time ive been able to actually use that is stygian coal

wintry flame
#

DoT did not increase the explosion damage on infernal @obtuse quest @wise leaf

kind forge
#

since you just plant life drain then spam rip

obtuse quest
kind forge
#

its also 8 flat spell

obtuse quest
kind forge
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per cast within 6 seconds

wise leaf
kind forge
#

you can get like 100 flat from that easily (at least on coal)

wintry flame
thorn grove
kind forge
#

oh ye i forgot i cant die to transplant now

#

forgot i took off bleeding heart

#

still can die if i accidently press harvest at the start tho kek

obtuse quest
#

So get more INT.

#

It is not really recommended to level with coal, it feels bad until you hit a certain stat point.

pearl snow
#

Kzb getting gaslit by Witchfire

obtuse quest
thorn grove
#

i did not realize lich got so much leech at the end of their tree, 10% of damage leeched is crazy

wintry flame
#

okay @pearl snow I went offline and had a char I was messing with it's not exactly the setup but you can see the mechanics. The damage isn't high cause it'd be for ignite or ailment application not just scaling infernal shade DoT

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been trying to figure out what to do with it lmao

pearl snow
#

I shall take a look soon, finishing up my work

wintry flame
#

No problem

kind forge
#

wonder if we will get perma death seal like holy aura and symbol of hope
or maybe closer to enchant weapon

#

also swap death seal and reaper form on the lich tree too since the low life passive is early on

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also lich needs a 4th skill uwu

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well 5th if you count the mastery skill

pearl snow
calm dome
#

The Hollow Lich passive node is global increased damage. Does that increase the base crit chance from the Chthonic Fissure Acid Skin node?

pearl snow
#

This is how you can actually crit mobs while running Singularity

#

at least until they most likely change that lol

kind forge
#

that makes no sense uwu

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sounds like a bug

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it says increased dmg not increased crit chance

pearl snow
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Acid Skin on the Fissure tree scales with Poison Damage

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It is an intended scaler, but only for Fissure's Acid Skin application

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afaik

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But running Singularity removes your chance to crit. However Acid skin does not remove the mobs chance to be crit

kind forge
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OH

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ic

pearl snow
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its a little loophole if you have enough poison damage

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I think the breakpoint with running Singularity is somewhere near 700% Poison Damage

kind forge
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crit vulnerability would work the same way if there was a way to get it on accolyte?

pearl snow
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to be consistent

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I assume so

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Acid Skin is basically our Crit Vuln but only via Fissure

kind forge
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better watch out ehg dont be adding any crit vuln items

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xD

pearl snow
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True

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However the tradeoff is you literally dont have any crit chance on your tree

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lol

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It pays off really well if you have the gear

old hull
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Singularity is supposed to disable crits entirely. It definitely did at one point, so not sure what happened.

kind forge
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true but like 20% chance to crit while also not having any crit

pearl snow
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technically though the mob itself has a crit scaler on it

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which isnt disabled

old hull
kind forge
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it lets the enemy be crit

pearl snow
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So Acid Skin with fissure

kind forge
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its a debuff

pearl snow
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and only with fissure

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debuffs the enemy

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to make them MORE "critable" depending on your poisons damage %

kind forge
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enemy modifiers bypass player limit modifiers

pearl snow
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so its not actually turned off

old hull
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's not intended.

pearl snow
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Id argue it is

old hull
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Singularity disabled crit vuln

pearl snow
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because then that would mean your specific mods are then dynamically tied to enemy mobs

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which sounds like a nightmare

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code wise

kind forge
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ic

pearl snow
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but then again i dont work for htem

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so

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what do I really know

kind forge
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it does sound weird tho

old hull
obtuse quest
pearl snow
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a boolean tied to your toon not the enemy

kind forge
pearl snow
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at least thats my take

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I gotta blast though

calm dome
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Hmm. I think of it like this. Let's say your player stat is 0% crit. You do not innately crit. Then say there is a debuff on an enemy that says "All hits against you crit". Even though the player has 0% crit chance, all hits will crit is how I interpret it.

pearl snow
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gtg

pearl snow
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Could throw it in ask devs tbh

obtuse quest
kind forge
old hull
kind forge
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since buffs are ur stats while debuffs are enemy stats

wintry flame
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you can scale infernal shade DoT + like ignite, you could do hit maybe, or just like ignite... Lots of options but just don't know what would actually do good damage and then you seen the ticks people get for infernal shade using flickering, it just insta ramps to a lot of damage lmao

kind forge
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i need chain hook for lich

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uwu

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reap/lunge 2.0

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pulling yourself to enemies would probably feel pretty cool with harvest

pearl snow
kind forge
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also maybe they should do with harvest what they do with flame reave

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the ring effect being a passive on the tree and a ring effect

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so if you have the ring you save alot of points

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basically move deaths embrace effect to the harvest tree

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maybe lock it behind the big crit passive

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cuz i know eventually you do wanna remove it

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idk nvm

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it would probably still feel garbage to lvl with uwu

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you would be waiting till like chapter 8 or 9 to grab it

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idk i just hate when the leveling build is stronger than the build you are using it to transition to ... but some skills are sooo meh that you kinda are forced to play something else until you can respec into it ... and then when you finally can its a massive downgrade

kind forge
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not saying lich needs this by the way but it would be super nice if elixer of death also gave chance to find pots to help sustain itself

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forge guard gives it for its potion related passive owo

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to be fair its forgeguard tho

cursive parrot
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Acolyte is going to be so OP once they rework lich and necro trees. They are so average the power will be huge.

Anyone know what is considered a minion skill for the wisp weaver passive node?

old hull
kind forge
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it has minion subskills but like ye

old hull
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Yeah, the transforms get a lot of tags

kind forge
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free +4 to it tho from phantom grip

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xD

cursive parrot
kind forge
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yes

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minion abilities will usually also apply to the minion itself for things like + lvls

kind forge
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wait what was the question

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confuzzled

old hull
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What wisp weaver procs on

cursive parrot
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Wisp weaver passive node

kind forge
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ic

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OH ye no

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it litterally says you have to be the one using the skill

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im not sure if thats the same as direct cast condition tho?

old hull
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Unclear, you'd have to test to be sure, but probably only works on directly used minion skills

kind forge
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i think the only relevant case would be like ... chaos bolt triggering harvest specced into blood spectre to get the minion tag

cursive parrot
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I swear bone golem’s rtaliate was able too at one point, but it doesnt have a mana cost whoch makes it weirder. Anyways, thanks all

calm dome
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Since they fixed the self hit loop proc rate of bone curse with penance, what are your guys thoughts on a self hit hungering souls build

kind forge
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sus

pearl snow
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Hard to scale well prob

final vapor
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Hey everyone. I remember seeing wraithlord was kinda crappy this cycle. Has that been fixed or is it still kinda floaty/slidey all over the place

kind forge
thorn grove
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i feel like i remember hearing 66% more damage when health is sealed but arent all of those effects increases not more multipliers

old hull
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Death seal itself gives more damage based on missing health

thorn grove
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ohhh, sorry that's what i was missing XD

kind forge
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so with the low life passive its 66% dmg 33% dmg reduction

thorn grove
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yeah i'd somehow overlooked that description for death seal and was only looking at the passive lich bonus and the dance with death node

kind forge
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well its actually more than that because you need to path through life scaling nodes to get that passive

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but thats the base xD

thorn grove
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that one is increased but yeah even more dmg

kind forge
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ye

thorn grove
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just finished the campaign tho so i'm just getting started with the power ramping XD

kind forge
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lol

calm dome
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Hmm do y'all think the Harvest node providing ward on hit to you and your minions would be a good way to mitigate the self hit damage of Bone Curse Aura with Penance

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Can mitigate the damage loop of bone curse aura penance between you and your minions hitting yourselves every .35 seconds

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I got up to chaos bolt, harvest and bone curse aura but idk where to run with this

thorn grove
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not even letting them down nice, just a flat "no" dang

kind forge
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oh wait we do have a second crit vulnerability type debuff

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well a 3rd one

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2nd universal tho

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nest of nightmares

gritty cargo
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Self bone curse really depends on the build are you snapshotting pearls of the swine on it?

twin venture
thorn grove
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lets push this tankiness, lvl 63 goin into empowered monos šŸ¤”

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this is just weird man, it feels more tanky than my judgement paladin at this level

old hull
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idk about you guys, but I'm hyped for cold lich

thorn grove
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i'm waiting for fever lich

north lance
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Yesterday, I fed my turtle 7 Mad Alchemist's Ladle 3lp and slammed the best Uber relic I had onto my VK, but now I want to play Lich Stygian Coal, damn it

kind forge
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lol

north lance
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a great relic for this build, but it’s been slammed with T7 mana🄹

kind forge
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i do think killing myself with harvest is kinda funny lol

old hull
# kind forge owo

Did you see the death seal "definitely probably cold conversion" teaser from last friday? I just got caught up šŸ˜‚

kind forge
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ye i saw

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i think its just cosmetic change tho

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cuz they didnt show us anything else

old hull
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Could be an mtx, yeah. But seemed deathchilly to me

north lance
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I just realized I don’t have much gear to imprint for Lich besides the 7766 wand. Can I use armor from another class for imprinting?

north lance
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Does the Weaver tree have anything that increases the drop rate of spoons from Exiled Mage?

kind forge
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so basically more chances to roll the dice

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you could also grind rune complex woven echos and then spam them and get 25 exiled mages per ... cant buy them from the vendor

drifting temple
north lance
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Yeah, I also think I'll use it temporarily until I get something else

drifting temple
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i mean your 3 main damage sources are crit multi/int/mana( when crit capped) and i don't know really what is better . i have no math about it

north lance
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If you have both, just equip them and fight Uberroth to see how long it takes

gritty cargo
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Int doesn't do much for damage it's more of a defensive thing

kind forge
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id say its between mana and crit multi ... and mana gives you more flexibility

gritty cargo
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Int scales the lich armor and doge and if you get to 180 attributes it's the red ring damage mitigation

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And ward retention and a few other little things in the trees

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Building dot and aliment crit isn't really that big either

obtuse quest
kind forge
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never realized how convenient the 3 curse necklaces might be

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the all res mostly

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and its a bone ammy

drifting temple
gritty cargo
drifting temple
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what is source of this 120 spell damage

gritty cargo
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On 1 LP item chosing to slot 120 spell damage instead of 16 int

drifting temple
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on which item

obtuse quest
gritty cargo
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Any item that has the option for it? Lol ring

obtuse quest
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Aren't we like talking about a specific slot?

gritty cargo
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No it's a general spell damage > int

drifting temple
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how can it be general if int is basically more multiplier here

gritty cargo
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Spell damage is also a more multiplier here

drifting temple
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it increase

gritty cargo
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48%

obtuse quest
obtuse quest
gritty cargo
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120 x 1.48 =

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Idk it's time for leaving this is stupid

obtuse quest
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So int would be 8% cast speed, 64% inc and 30% more

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Now that I look at it Int seems even better with ladle lmao

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Cast speed is good.

drifting temple
gritty cargo
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16 x 4 x 1.48 x 1.08 = 102 powerspike
120 x 1.48 = 177 powerspike

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Idk int is not better

obtuse quest
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Int simply gives more things to multiply.

gritty cargo
# drifting temple +

Literally same thing here. Would you rather do more DPS with heavier hits that happen slightly less, or do Less DPS with weaker hits that happen more often

obtuse quest
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YOur result changes if you do that same calculation already have some spell incs

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As I have been recently reminded by witchfire, seperate multipliers is most likely better than stacking the same one.

drifting temple
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its not the same. . and its extra multi source for damage per second.

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int giving you 2 sources of scaling

gritty cargo
drifting temple
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not even talking about def part

obtuse quest
north lance
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Lvling time 😭

drifting temple
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also for some reason we are not talking about huge boost for ailment applications like armor shred with high int values

obtuse quest
drifting temple
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well when someone talking that it is better to lp spell damage instead of int

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we should take all sides of the stat imo

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and then im not sure it it is even a question

obtuse quest
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Assume: 400% spell inc and 25% cast speed, 48% more from mad ladle
10000 dps base.

+120% spell inc
520% spell inc, 25% cast,48% more
114700 total

+16 int (+ 64% inc, 8% cast)
464% spell inc, 33% cast, 48% more
111017 total

Assume: 400% spell inc and 25% cast speed, 48% more, 50% inc freq

+120% spell inc
520% spell inc, 25% cast,48% more, 50% inc freq
172,050 total

+16 int (+ 64% inc, 8% cast, + 16 freq)
464% spell inc, 33% cast, 48% more, 66% inc freq
184,289 total

Assume 600% spell inc, 50% cast speed, 48% more
+ 120% spell inc
720% inc, 50% cast, 48% more
182,040

+16 int (+ 64% inc, 8% cast)
664% inc, 58% cast, 48% more
178,653

Assume 600% spell inc, 50% cast speed, 48% more, 100% inc freq.
+ 120% spell inc
720% inc, 50% cast, 48% more, 100% freq
364,080

+16 int (+ 64% inc, 8% cast, + 16 freq)
664% inc, 58% cast, 48% more, 116% freq
385,892

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WIthout accounting for beam frequency: spell inc is better.
With it being accounted for: Int is better

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Actual correct answer: Cap your crit chance ffs.

north lance
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I remember last week I stuffed 4-5 Stygian Coal 3lp with low prefixes somewhere for the turtle, not knowing we only needed implicits šŸ˜…

north lance
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i got it

faint spruce
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whats the ideal case for bossing, to spam drain life or let 1 cast channel through and then refresh with full mana? ive seen a few comments about spamming it results into higher burst, but how so? i thought u cant have multiple drain life casts up at the same time. or to spam drain life during death seal window and then regain mana during the downtime?

obtuse quest
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So cast 2-3 drain lifes, rip blood back to max mana, repeat.

faint spruce
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šŸ‘Œ

silver night
faint spruce
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shatter, shatter, shatter, shatter.

silver night
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do not stand, do not stand, do not stand, do not stand.

drifting idol
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300 corruption harbinger 1 hammer got me through 6k ward

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real

zealous sage
drifting idol
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what are the main sources to get more max hp?

zealous sage
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more xp gain u mean?

drifting idol
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oh

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i mean more max HP

zealous sage
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oh

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I guess more hybrid hp in gear

drifting idol
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hybrid hp is a rare affix right?

zealous sage
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yep

drifting idol
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šŸ¤” alright

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will add it to my loot filter

robust bramble
#

For the stygian beam, could it be possible that going acid skin+ stacking poison is better? That's like stacking ļ¼…Inc and cc with the same stat

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Kinda like doing the same thing as the flame whip

obtuse quest
robust bramble
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ahh dammit I thought I can convert it to poison Then it will be a poison damage hit attack. Thanks!

obtuse quest
faint spruce
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love this game... rip 2 slams on lp3, again...

lyric bough
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is Damned a curse?

obtuse quest