#๐Ÿ“šโ”ƒoff-topic

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keen wind
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I just don't really understand that you posted this comparing it to the peak
Then posted that screenshot of LE (which peaked at 260k, and only not higher because of server issues)
Like... Yeah, that's what an all-time peak is

tawny sand
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they just need to make sacred 4 and then arpgs are saved

thorn nacelle
fierce moth
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  1. I want to join in game industry if there's a chance
  2. I want to work in loot-based ARPG project
  3. Last Epoch is the game let me know this game genre
  4. No else ARPG I'm enjoying so far
  5. LE's community is my last home
thorn nacelle
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i dont care about Peaks

keen wind
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I did read, and defaulting to assuming I didn't read tells me everything I need, thanks!

thorn nacelle
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peak is only a hype..

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thats the 2025 arpg gaming market. says a lot no need to read anythink either ๐Ÿ˜„

thorn nacelle
fierce moth
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Talked a lot but...

ALL THE BEST, EHG.

is what can I say at last

keen wind
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I really enjoyed following the LE beta, the development was slow but always delivered a banger after a wait

thorn nacelle
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spend average 300 almost at release.. first and last time. not even myself still believing it that i did it.
had fun with the game and ya gg. Quit playing since April and not in mood touching it again

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didnt know anythink about GGG then but now i know ๐Ÿ˜„

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Proper Casino Simulator its lame to call your game RPG the moment has no crafting.

fierce moth
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@ashen osprey what do you think on EHG be sold to Krafton?

ashen osprey
thorn nacelle
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Solid answer xD

ashen osprey
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Honestly, I don't care for now.
Time will tell.

I'm not the guy to hate a major for being a major

thorn nacelle
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Time will tell agree. nothing about hate either. Everybody gets what he/she deserves anyway xD

blissful token
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Is partnership considered sold? I dont think so

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But i dont feel so good with Krafton

blissful token
fierce moth
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Facepalm I said Lisa yesterday, then Judd post "EHG is Krafton's now" today. Korean is a curse

acoustic jungle
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@hardy crane
Muffin, in relation to your comments about AI: #๐Ÿ’ฌโ”ƒgeneral message

We resolved this hallucination issue about a year ago, when we wrote our framework that doesn't let our agents write anything that breaks tests that were created based on well-defined requirements. Seeing Amazon's product come out, and knowing this is the way to actually automating the creation of software, I think we're entering that promised new era. To be fair, while we are very privileged and lucky to have access to very high-quality specs-to-code-to-discussions codebases that we trained on, I know there isn't stopping AI once the larger public adopts this workflow and the models get a tiny bit better. We're never gonna use it for critical things, but for everything else, it's heaven. I don't see a future where AI takes jobs from proper engineers. But it's definitely reality that, if you don't use AI - and get good at it - you'll be left behind. Software will balloon.

sand wigeon
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You sound insane. Please stop.

acoustic jungle
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We went from "we literally cannot use AI because of our clients' privacy needs (and it's also terrible)" to me asking clients to sign exception clauses for certain parts of their software, because AI can output so much good enough code for these parts, that the value they create is worth it.

desert jasper
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Just outsource all your thinking and creativity to AI

sand wigeon
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Truly.

desert jasper
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Who needs to have anything original in their life
just let AI handle it

sand wigeon
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The only way AI will take jobs is the same reason as always. Corporate greed. Not because itโ€™s actually good.

karmic nimbus
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saving money is the reason

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and to make peoples life miserable

fierce moth
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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ EHG is Judd's. I hope this truth is here all the time

thorn nacelle
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Yes and playerbase will be also AI. omegalul

thorn nacelle
# karmic nimbus saving money is the reason

btw Nadragh never saw similar discord server in my life. mentioned 1 time something about Bot farms and got permanent chat ban.
talking about d2 mod discord. Also they banned my account in game for RMTing they said omegalul

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too cocky mods there gg Project d2 forever.

karmic nimbus
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well rmt players is easy to catch if you do soem research

thorn nacelle
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well yes it is but whole server is rmting thats the funny part

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it is what it is tbh.. whatever ๐Ÿ˜„

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i am 98% sure even the Mod himself its one of the top sellers there.

desert jasper
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I'd like to remind you that talk about RMT still isn't alloweed

fierce moth
thorn nacelle
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we talking about other game and was ultra offtopic. Mr Police officer

fierce moth
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I know that's an extreme popular mobile game but I don't know which game company have developed that until today

desert jasper
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a community manager, even

thorn nacelle
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they can mute me np

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tag them to do so too

desert jasper
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<@&1161418687471956101> talking about RMT again
sure, it's another game but it hasn't been allowed before either

thorn nacelle
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well done.

candid sage
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also a reminder to follow the #rules . esp rules 1

blissful token
fierce moth
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well tq 2 is the only loot-based ARPG which have a bit influence and keep good reputation now

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A few indie loot-based ARPG here but they don't get enough testings and playerbase yet

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I want to know how Ave deal with these discussion if she still here.

gilded elm
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I'm distrustful of Korean game devs/publishers in general, that said Krafton is probably one I know nothing about, guess it hasn't been in the news much until very recently with the Subnautica 2 drama. Not too worried about the acquisition of EHG, but the timing is unfortunate with the current drama surrounding Krafton.

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I did buy and enjoy Inzoi though, I hope they develop that more into an actual Sims competitor.

sage flame
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Jolteon #1 gen 9 OU ladder, holy

fierce moth
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lol we're similar on this point. I'm strustful of Chinese games too.

maiden widget
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I'm not trusting any big gaming company

radiant helm
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@icy turtle

icy turtle
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@radiant helm

radiant helm
icy turtle
radiant helm
icy turtle
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Are you a doctor? How do you know she isn't/doesn't need to?

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cute af tho

radiant helm
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Ye, she's very adorable

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Her name is Jane

icy turtle
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nifty paint job

radiant helm
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Jane the tutel

icy turtle
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This is my lil Betty White.

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I am a stereotype. I told my wife we couldn't have a dog. She bought one anyway. Now she's my baby.

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Like... doesn't give a single hoot about anybody in the house but me.

radiant helm
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Give her little snaks and headpats

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She's such a lady

junior oyster
teal flame
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I'm skeptical of publishers in general, I feel like the amount of overhead cost they add tends to get larger and larger over time and they just choke out the studios they own.

hot crown
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Saved.

fierce moth
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I still waiting the update on the developer and the publisher

fierce moth
pseudo owl
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New publisher and there goes any prospects of me buying mtx haha

pseudo owl
maiden widget
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What kind of bird is it?

twilit mountain
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The feathery kind I think

maiden widget
crisp onyx
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could be crazy good

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if only we had good set mods

blissful token
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@fierce moth

hot crown
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But the bird is safe regardless, albeit badly clawed. At least both wings are relatively intact, if injured.

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Assuming everything goes smoothly, ~10 days of proper rest and healing should do.

desert jasper
hot crown
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Swifts are kinda tricky since their entire life is about flight.

hot crown
# pseudo owl Cute birdie

Those are abundant in cities. This one probably smashed into a window or somewhere else and then got clawed by a passerby cat.

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Glad it's safe now.

abstract karma
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Wait a minute i was touch off from current news of LE
But if Shareholders were mostly Tencent, does it mean Krafton bough Tencent shares or rest of devs teams shares to krafton ??

crisp onyx
desert jasper
crisp onyx
desert jasper
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I imagine they don't wanna go the direction of D3
with just having +10k% dmg on sets

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Situationally good can still make them good
And they can make new sets now too

crisp onyx
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this ring for example demands more than situationally good

desert jasper
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the +1 to all skills & + attributes is nice
and counting as a part of every equipped set is pretty strong
could probably get something like... 3 sets with it
probably 4 if it stacks

crisp onyx
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that requires you to give up 4 leg slots

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i dont think there is any build that can use 4 set bonuses

desert jasper
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Not currently, no

crisp onyx
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so you pretty much give it up for ring bonuses only

desert jasper
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But you could probably use something like last bears lament for +30str and then something other very easily
then again
I'll judge it after we get to see if set items are refreshed this patch

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Kinda depends on how good your exalted stuff is, eh

fierce moth
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Wip, first time to paint walls with multiple colours mixing so... Maybe they don't look mix well.

fierce moth
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A good step to inspire us to use set items we have

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Hold on??????

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+6 skill levels?! Hah?

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I guess Judd have great fun already because +6 meteor he's playing omegalul

fierce moth
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Not my deal but many players asked that

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I need to learn how to shatter set items and stack set items in 1.3 because legends entwined looks fantastic but the issue is how to get this ring ๐Ÿค”

desert jasper
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There's that woven echo (bridge) to shatter set items

fierce moth
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Looking forward to paint something with my pigment inspired from new maps in ancient era ๐Ÿค”

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I guess EHG will skip Judd's announcement and post the official trailer on Chinese social media directly.

Keep it positive.

narrow token
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I will be utterly disappointed if we cannot also summon mastodon, pterodactyl, triceratops, and saber-toothed tigers. ๐Ÿ˜

candid sage
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there are no power rangers in Eterra

narrow token
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Don't kill my dreams.

acoustic jungle
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me when i do bad bad and mom catches me redhanded (gooogooo gaga (she doesn't know what that means) (I don't know what that means either))

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I swear, Aaron's thumbnails just keep degenerating ๐Ÿ˜ญ

desert jasper
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I kinda hate the youtube thumbnail stuff

candid sage
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same. i cant stand it

desert jasper
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"Oh no, here's me looking shocked"
then you also have the people that do the exact same face on every single video they post

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||which is why I've some people on video shoutout muted||

junior oyster
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You guys watch youtube?

desert jasper
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very little these days
Mostly videos about brewing beer, wine or mead

junior oyster
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Same

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I mean the very little bit

desert jasper
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Fair

junior oyster
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I used to watch how ridiculous and slowmo guys before I lost my youtube acc recently

desert jasper
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I got around to watching brewing vids when I was unemployed for a longer period
and then I just kinda kept watching them because it became a hobby of mine
||well, I haven't brewed anything but tea in.... 2 years now or something||

naive bobcat
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Anyone in here play Fantasy Life i?

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I've been enjoying/shilling the hell out of this game.

twilit mountain
naive bobcat
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It's worth it for sure. When you can, do it.

twilit mountain
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Yea, I do plan to

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Glad to hear it's good though c:

fierce moth
feral urchin
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dunno if video will show up here but oof

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in regards to what i was talkin about in general channel earlier lol

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Totally reminded me of a typical Bethesda game

sand wigeon
twilit mountain
sand wigeon
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So whatevs

blissful token
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๐Ÿ’ธ

sand wigeon
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Fr

tawny sand
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oh wow fantasy life is pretty expensive, looks cool though

twilit mountain
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I played the previous game, it was for 3DS ($40 on launch), this one seems considerably larger so I'm not really bothered by the price tag I just don't often have $60 to spare on games is all. It's been holding a 90-91% positive on Steam since launch which is pretty solid too.

tawny sand
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yeah that's fair, i was just think i guess it's sort of in the same vein of stardew valley / harvest moon type games which there's quite a few of that are also good (but admittedly i don't really play these types of games a lot)

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or maybe animal crossing vibes, dunno

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i 'm just going off screenshots

twilit mountain
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It's kind of those but rolled up with general RPG/adventure game stuff. Gear crafting, monster hunting, bosses, storyline and questing etc.

tawny sand
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ah okay gotcha

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i guess the onlly thing like that would be rune factory? I've never played rune factory though

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but i thought rune factory had like dungeons and stuff

twilit mountain
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The reason it hooked me when I was younger is because every item you use is made by you, all your gear, all your potions, your housing furniture, your food, you have to learn and level the different professions/skills to get access to more items to use throughout the game. On the 3DS game I spent so long playing the game that I maxed out everything on three different save files lol

tawny sand
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oh that sounds neat

twilit mountain
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It was also back when I was like, obsessed with blacksmithing for some reason. Meanwhile nowadays my brain sees stealthy, stabby, lithe and skinny rogue archetypes and goes ๐Ÿซต THAT ONE PLEASE

tawny sand
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lol

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I was checking out railway empire 2, it's alright i guess

twilit mountain
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I've got a bunch of games I have been keeping an eye on

tawny sand
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what ones?

sand wigeon
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I have 400 games on my wishlist

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Weโ€™re not going to talk about it

tawny sand
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if you know of any good tycoon/management games coming out hmu fr

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i've been hoping let's build a dungeon comes out soon

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i liked its demo

tawny sand
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most of the time it's just cause i have a passing itnerest in something, and i like to get notified when things are on sale

sand wigeon
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Lobotomy Corp is good and very difficult

tawny sand
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i wish capitalism lab would get a new version, and was on steam so you don't have to buy it through their site

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it's pretty old now, shows its age and big games tend to lag out a bit

twilit mountain
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Crystalfall is supposed to come out this year, Mycopunk came out pretty recently, Windblown hit early access in October, Research Story just hit 1.0 a couple weeks ago, Sephiria dropped in April I think, same for CyberCorp, Striving For Light also came out earlier this month, Rift of The Necrodancer hit in February, Sworn came out in Feb too I believe, Dark Deity 2 came out a few months back, I think Crashlands 2 is in early access? Um... a lot as you can tell lol

twilit mountain
sand wigeon
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Research Story is really good!

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Itโ€™s very similar to Field of Mistria/Stardew Valley, more-so than being management focused.

twilit mountain
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Ooh right, Demon School is supposed to come out in the next few months, that's one I've been waiting on for like three and a half years at least.

tawny sand
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oh looks cool, i'm awful at tactics games lol

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you might could check out troubleshooter, i've heard it's very good, if you like tactics games

twilit mountain
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I love them even if I'm not amazing at them

twilit mountain
tawny sand
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lmao

twilit mountain
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But fr yeah, looks interesting, I'll see if I can't get it sometime

sand wigeon
narrow token
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๐Ÿฟ

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Yup, I still hate general chat.

fierce moth
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It's wonderful if more indie games can get money support like le because game development is money-consuming. It's not enough for only Poe/Poe 2/le/d4 here.
I want to see more loot-based ARPG are growing and become one of the most influenced games which people will mention it always.
The market needs more good games whenever.

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But I'm envious of why many people can get so much money too... Different people have different cases on economy, which is sad

twilit mountain
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The problem Kirra is that when a company gives you this amount of money, they expect to get it back at some point. Tell me how EHG is going to pay back $96,000,000? More than that, how are they going to give them a profit on that? Cuz there ain't that many people lining up to buy the game, the genre doesn't have enough players for that. And maybe 10% of players will buy cosmetics or supporter packs?

sand wigeon
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Yeeeah.

tawny sand
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it wouldnt' surprise me if they do a season pass

fierce moth
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๐Ÿค”
Good question...
Negative reviews for the acquisition over than positive reviews, many players said they will not support le anymore because of Krafton.
Thanks for the new angle, yes capital is quite smart. EHG have more pressure now.

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omegalul I'm curious about what Judd promise to let Krafton willing to offer this amount of money then

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As you said, it's a loan ๐Ÿค”

tawny sand
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a 96 million dollar high five

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is that the actual number though? where did deias get that number

sand wigeon
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At the bottom of the article.

tawny sand
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ah okay

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dang that's a lot

fierce moth
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yes, it's why many people doubt Judd will just cash out then leave

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He get so much money now if his goal is get money by making a game

twilit mountain
# tawny sand dang that's a lot

Yup. It's why I'm sitting here knowing things are going to get worse and not falling for the "things will be the same don't worry!" shit

abstract karma
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Only way to save from Krafton is doing same thing Path of Exile did basically

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(Poe let Tencent managed own version in their own way)

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Basically make copy version which will be filled with core updates and Krafton in their part of East doing busnisses model and other things however they want

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That way they will make money, in crisis if our devs would be crushed, they could just run own version of game...
But mainly it would put EHG under way lesser pressure if Krafton would get basically copy of game because money would be made trough 2 different "sources"

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sand wigeon
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Not how that works, because Tencent intentionally doesnโ€™t really touch their investments. Krafton does.

abstract karma
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Tencent could but why they would if they making money and they can have own version of game where they can tweak game except core features
(more about pet system which Tencent version have)

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Yes Krafton is more aggressive and will be in every way unfortunetly with their reputation and public drama right now but
from mine view this is only way for EHG to have lesser pressure...

You can just see from Krafton terrible reputation how players are crazy about it and it definitely filtered some possible income to game..

tawny sand
fierce moth
fierce moth
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Current case is interesting...Ok.

Krafton owns EHG.
Krafton offer a big investment to EHG.
EHG are financial free.
Players trust EHG but don't trust Krafton.
Players will not buy supporter packs anymore.
EHG is in trouble.
Krafton give up EHG and ask for money back.
More troubles are coming.

Well... Then EHG need to prove Krafton worth to believe.

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Oh then I see why Krafton willing to give EHG money... Krafton wish fixing the own reputation by owning a genius team like EHG. Now, EHG must become the most powerful weapon of Krafton.

abstract karma
# fierce moth <:omegalul:570776988327870475> Your opinion is interesting. First time to hear s...

Krafton couldn't care least about their reputation.. They want money as any big corporate (and 2x times it apply on east corporates..)
What is big deal with bad reputation if their game makes money back.. PUBG is here for how long and how big money it made for them..

And now i dont mean Globally but you can just watch their own Country or East Countries.. There is mindset just different about spending money in games..

omegalul Your opinion is interesting. First time to hear someone think it's a low price
-- Well and it isn't ?

*you mean this is the only way to get less pressure on game development or down the expectation to EHG? *
-- More or less this is one of a few ways how to get out of it.. I dont see many options except that EHG will suprass players exceptation and overcome Krafton problems which is seens globally (aka nobody would care Krafton ows them..)

  • You can see posts in net "This is not why we supported game to be sold to some BS company" as soon on. Yes these are typical haters posts but it still
    can cause players to spend less money on it..

EHG are financial free.
That depends how are money handled..

  • even if you put money on new staff in team it will take some time to integrate them + servers and other things..
    Some part of money they need to save if things would got worse..
fierce moth
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Well why EHG can get a big success? Players trust them.
Why players trust EHG? EHG is here to focus on single thing for 7 years.
Why Krafton believe EHG? They're looking for money and support so Krafton can grab its shortage.
Why EHG is their choice? EHG have been successful and have a nice trust base from players.

So We're agreed each other I guess. EHG is trusted by their players deeply and EHG own a good community in all over the world, which Krafton is looking for.

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This is a deal about trust.

twilit mountain
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EHG has lost a lot of faith and trust from its long term supporters, just figured you might want to factor that in

fierce moth
maiden widget
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yeah we'll see how it plays out, when some other company bought the one i worked for now it got worse extremely fast, hope it's better for ehg

twilit mountain
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I mean, I meant before this whole debacle really. I've seen lots of people that have been here for 3, 4, 5+ years that have over time had less and less excitement for each update, more and more dissatisfaction, more frustration, etc etc

maiden widget
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tbf with how slow things were moving i understand it

tawny sand
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I haven't been around forever, but I remember how long the multiplayer update took, and then they took another year long period for that other update

fierce moth
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Wait 9 months for a cycle is quite tough exactly

fierce moth
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I need to wait 3 months even I played poe 2 3 months and developed voxel art 3 months

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๐Ÿ™ƒ I hope GGG let me play poe/poe 2 as soon as possible

tawny sand
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i never really got into poe, and 2 i'm whatever about right now

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grim dawn expansion could be good though, here's hoping

twilit mountain
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Never too late to get into PoE1 groleshades

maiden widget
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man i wish theyd finally set a date for the gd expansion

tawny sand
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and idk, just don't really visit it that often for some reason

twilit mountain
tawny sand
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my friend says it's been good

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but yeah dunno, i was always the more grim dawn fan of my friend group

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but even that i don't play as often as i used to

fierce moth
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The first acrylic impressionism painting I made.

Vine outside the window.

vapid junco
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i am so afraid of this line

junior oyster
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I'm just super glad we have an offline only mode

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Now if only GGG were to release poe1 and 2 with offline mode I'd be very very happy

fierce moth
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A cozy adventure game which add Japanese elements in everywhere, the first indie game that attract me by soundtrack of trailer. Yes, this type of music is quite my tea.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2193150/Kibu/
I discovered that in Games forged in Germany

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fierce moth
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Battle backpack Backpack battles is the only one in games forged in Germany I heard before

blissful token
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Uhh.. i remember it was >300k members

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But that was like few months ago when i happen to stumble upon

abstract karma
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i can't imagine nothing else than sesonal packs or some these stupidity login passes as another pay transactions
(Except maybe special new stashes but even that..)

Everything from current version of game would be added behind paywall would cause drastic drop of players because they would feel they are "hit by knife to back"

junior oyster
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Whales exist

abstract karma
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yes it will end like Trochlight or Wolcen.. either it will looks like dead for global playerbase

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it might be hars words but thats how cruel generation of players got.. and how krafton reputation is..

vapid junco
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i wouldnt be surprised if LTO events with paid packs come soon to LE tho

junior oyster
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I'll be honest as long as they don't do some p2w nonsense I could care less about such events

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If they do go p2w route I'm abandoning ship

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I gave up on TERA for a reason

vapid junco
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krafton is greedy but not crazy
likely just some 2 weeks long events with shit to grind and a skin bundle to its theme

junior oyster
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Yea I'm ok with that

vapid junco
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dang

junior oyster
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I just know in TERA they literally allowed you to p2w with buying boxes that contained crafting mats

junior oyster
# vapid junco dang

I mean I no longer get affected by fomo mechanics is what I meant. Do I want that kinda nonsense (especially constant pop-ups... looking at you d4)? Hell nah.

vapid junco
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well that is better to hear

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yknow slowly losing faith in humanity as people in some games legit ask for fomo

junior oyster
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Yea I absolutely detest it but if it helps keep the game running (and actually adding real content + quality) then I kinda understand.

vapid junco
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yea fair enough

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fomo and all those shitty business practices are a double-edged sword

junior oyster
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Yep

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But we'll see in time

abstract karma
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I wish they would already kill Tera.. there could be already somebody willing to buy that IP or make sequel..

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stupid console miliking

junior oyster
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Isn't tera dead?

abstract karma
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Console Tera is still running

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till then its still "alive IP"

maiden widget
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I don't remember D4 doing popups either tbh

junior oyster
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I might be misremembering but I seem to recall on the char select screen you'd sometimes get 'x on sale'

maiden widget
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then poe must be worse with the half hourly(?) chat notification

junior oyster
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Yea I hate that too

fierce moth
ebon meadow
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3d printer I need to get my hands on my boss wants to buy one

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He had one but apparently it was lended

desert jasper
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One of my old coworkers had a 3d printer
our boss wanted to borrow it. expected to get it for free and not pay for the materials
coworker just said no. he can print stuff for the boss but it'll cost the materials + the time it took

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Same boss also had a bed in his office and went to "sleep" during several meetings when he got bored of them

ebon meadow
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Yea I had Bose's and have that a bit weird but they make money so I can't say shit as long as they pay me on date lol

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But yea I tolerated some weird stuff TBF

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To point of asking my self how are we actually making benefits

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I guess that's why they the head I am the hands omegalul

sand wigeon
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3D printerโ€™s are cool, but I canโ€™t think of any practical purpose Iโ€™d actually have for one.

maiden widget
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i'm printing more than i thought with my small bambulabs one

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lots of small replacement parts, lots of things i'd normally buy for a few โ‚ฌ just printed when i need it

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made this for a friend too for his bday

sand wigeon
#

What is it?

junior oyster
#

Runes from D2

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Might be Jah-Ith-Ber but not sure

desert jasper
#

Yes, that is jah ith ber

maiden widget
#

yep runes for the iconic enigma runeword and a horadric cube

junior oyster
#

Whew glad I was right lol

desert jasper
#

and then LE has Jahith Bear

junior oyster
#

Yep

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And can teleport

desert jasper
#

Honestly it took me longer time to realize that than I'd like to admit

maiden widget
#

was one of my fav moments when i found that one

desert jasper
#

and the runes glowing on their side

junior oyster
#

I never noticed the runes

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With all the clutter around lol

desert jasper
#

they kinda shine in blue, I think
really only noticeable during the story

maiden widget
desert jasper
#

Honestly love that kind of references

maiden widget
#

same

junior oyster
#

Why yes ofc I did the honourable thing of adding in the lift

fierce moth
#

lol I even don't find the entrance of ptw for poe Chinese

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๐Ÿ˜… They need special currencies, but I have no idea how to exchange these special currencies by real money so I can learn the ptw level

ebon meadow
#

It's summertime Gregory

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The uwu posture on my white is just crazy ๐Ÿคฃ

fierce moth
#

Yarn:?

fierce moth
fierce moth
#

Oh I'm surprised that even top game company like MiHoYo (Genshin), their employees can use RTX 3070 pc only ๐Ÿค”

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omegalul To be fair, the process of internal game jam hold by MiHoYo is quite interesting.

desert jasper
#

God
I love cats so much

mental talon
#

I just brought mine back from getting a haircut

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Fur was getting too much need to be able to let him cool down

desert jasper
#

Look at the baldy

placid yarrow
#

Egg Pog

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Well the head isn't shaved but it's got the spirit of the egg

radiant helm
#

Just wanna share my brand new keyboard

hot crown
#

Does it need special eyes to operate?

twilit mountain
fierce moth
#

All of their skills are closed so I admired each one, but 4x14's work did the best on details.

sand wigeon
#

The second one there is beautiful. Reminds me a lot of Steve Jackson's Sorcery! books.

fierce moth
#

As I guessed, this is a competition within character artists omegalul

#

Yes I agree, that's drew by 4x14

sand wigeon
#

(From Steve Jackson's Sorcery!)

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(This one is from the game, but it's the same illustration)

fierce moth
#

I want to see more character fan art about le too, but no chance yet :p

placid yarrow
#

Bruh ๐Ÿ˜ญ lmao. Think this is the smallest sale I've ever seen on steam

mental talon
fierce moth
#

4x14 painted a lot, they deserves the prize.

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They can create a fan artbook series literally

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I bet they can get the fan art winner badge heavybreathing

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I want to follow this artist on platform they're on... To support them

Just too amazing on combo of the art style and in-game characters

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Such a pity that Poe's fan art competition will not link their social media

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I bet this is a professional illustrator

fierce moth
#

Man, oppo a1x here

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๐Ÿ˜… ...........

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groleshades I like the light in your home is gentle and let everything look a bit grey. Like a film len

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tom Oh. Hold on. 5000px the main len on your phone have. 2400*1080 your screen is.

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Mine is 1300px only, 1612*720 for the screen

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Then make sense. A picture capture by 1300px len and 5000px len 100% is different

neon sigil
neon sigil
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I'm happy I got showcased.

Really made my day when I saw that even tho I won't win.

fierce moth
#

You'll win that one day!

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I'm in the beginning period in an area too so works are...Immature

neon sigil
#

Fun guy I did earlier

neon sigil
fierce moth
neon sigil
#

I love the contrast in style there.

fierce moth
#

I'm specialize in environment art

neon sigil
#

Honestly with your skills I would look into matte painting. (I think thats the right term?)

Tim kaminski has some cool videos on melding 2d/3d art techniques together for some amazing results. You might like his stuff.

fierce moth
#

But I need to practice to find what my style in impressionism art is at first omegalul

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Pure 2d and pure 3d need such a crazy skill level to get incomes... Combine both of them maybe can reduce the difficulty a bit

fierce moth
#

I guess I'm hard to get adapt to the work time in a company... Work on something in 8h centralized then go back home to rest is a hard thing to accept because I can focus on something 2h only then I just want to take a 1h nap, then chill myself 4h at least until I want to work that thing 2h again... ๐Ÿ’€

Short work time but long chill time, no company want employees like that unless they allow employees work whenever they like, just need to complete the work before the deadline.

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The only intership experience I have is ended by I'm too tired for working in all the afternoon (14:30-18:30) so I'm yawned frequently, heard by my boss then fired me Facepalm

fierce moth
#

By the way, comments people left for Kira Vale remind me of recent drama about EHG and Krafton

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Sigh, the human clone was got a big success and made a big failure at the same time, because she's cloned...Sorry to hear she chose a sad end at last.

fierce moth
blissful token
#

In a day? RIP

fierce moth
#

Personal choice ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ We can respect that and wait the future only.

muted parrot
#

I can totally understand to leave when a usually chill server turns into 90% of channels are suddenly about doomposting/speculations on how bad it'll get, how bad the decisions were etc
But it'll hopefully get better..

blissful token
#

uhh.. just dont turn to general chat Gregory

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we have Theiliya here Bee

muted parrot
#

ye, I've muted it for now >.>

junior oyster
#

I almost never go to general chat lol

#

Been here since practically day 1

muted parrot
desert jasper
#

I still check general since I'm too curious for my own good
and then just get reminded that there's that guy who just uses AI for everything and runs a script to block people on the server

muted parrot
#

I'm glad my favorite channel isn't affected that much Gregory

fierce moth
#

Tell you a funny thing: I get used to mute 99% channels in a server and I will mute all servers I joined too

#

It don't matter that I will check them out frequently

muted parrot
#

muting entire servers and channels or hiding them should be a common thing to do ๐Ÿค”
nobody wants to be pinged without a good reason

fierce moth
#

My reason isn't relevant to be pinged, it's I don't want to receive messages not about me when I want to watch a video or play a game or paint a work

#

I can't do multiple things at the same time

#

You know, infp/infj means they're prefer to be alone. Stay in noisy just consume themselves

fierce moth
#

The feeling "I have no idea what am I doing" is growing stronger and stronger ๐Ÿ˜‚

Completely different from references so I'm lost now

#

But the effect is better after I used acrylic pigments + acrylic markers instead of one of them only

fierce moth
#

Trust and appreciation is the lesson lots of Asian parents never know exactly.

They stay in the scar of poor childhood they owned, so they think I should thanks for everything they give me. Provide a home to me, give me money to live, give me time to do things I like, give me food to eat. Everything they give should be paid back. They never know how poor I'm, how hard I persist in a thing without their support, how much I want to paint and how helpless when I realize no one can help me...

They just think I should happy under their "give".
Sigh.

#

The only thing they ignore is why are they want a child when they're poor already?

finite scaffold
#

Do we have any good arpg thats is new besides LE?

gilded elm
#

Titan Quest 2 early access is supposed to be very soon, probably within the next month.

#

Who can say whether it'll be good, though.

fierce moth
#

Paint 2
Lost square, inspired by the medium.

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Discover paint trees is fun by accident xd. Addicted in branches and leaves suddenly
(the first try for the combo, acrylic markers + acrylic pigments)

blissful token
#

Hmm.. another 60-ish left the server

#

Not sure if this number is legit anymore

fierce moth
#

72 members left.

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More and more close to 230000 only

#

lol they hire...Another art producer (Have a chance to learn what Derek's job do now)

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Have thought art producer is the top title on art. It's wrong.

#

oh sorry... Derek is art director lol

#

....What the difference between art director and creative director my Jesus

#

2 directors = 0 director

#

That's a chaos...
My understanding of creative director is more as the leader of combat/gameplay/boss/balance design, as Ross is doing. Then I check key responsibilities of creative director, it's the leader of animation/vfx/level design/narrative design, character design and environment design is a bonus.
But...? I think that's the job for art director.

twilit mountain
twilit mountain
#

Bit early for that rn (it's the middle of the night) :P but thank you, I will throw my alarm on

fierce moth
#

I'm doubting they post key responsibilities for future creative director from Derek

#

It'll the key role for the income omegalul I mean future mtx and future game updates

#

I guess only Americans understand. What 401k mean?

tawny sand
#

it's like a retirement fund that uses stock investments

#

i believe so anyway

twilit mountain
#

pretty much

tawny sand
#

do 401ks use the company's own stock, or is it diversified?

#

i didn't think ehg was public

twilit mountain
#

I have no idea

fierce moth
#

omegalul I find Judd is online on linkedin now

#

I have seen a term I want to use on his page but I forget to I go to find that... Oh yes, SEO

#

Oh, look like it's not the term I should use

vagrant topaz
#

Weeding cake I made this weekend

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Strawberry, lemon and elderflower

twilit mountain
#

Holy shit

#

That's incredible

rose shell
blissful token
# vagrant topaz

Whats the basis on the weight management (both cake stacking and human weight who gobbles the cake kappa?

fierce moth
#

That's too insane, Vlad!!!

fierce moth
#

I'd like to a slice to try the flavour

vagrant topaz
#

I had to impale the cakes

blissful token
#

Whats the factors to considering

blissful token
vagrant topaz
#

Each cake must not be higher than 6 cm high because that how high the spikes are

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And then you just need to try to center each layer when you build it

blissful token
vagrant topaz
#

Because other wise you are going to squish the bottom cake

#

It's not one big cake

#

Its seven small cakes stack on top of each other

#

This might make it easier to grasp

blissful token
#

The steel impale like 2-3cm on top of each cake only no?

vagrant topaz
#

No, with the weight it goes all the way through

#

A'd for extra stability you want it all the way through
I lost one cake this week-end because I didn't press it hard enough

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And it toppled over

blissful token
#

So you gotta get the frame first before making the 7 cakes yea?

vagrant topaz
#

Not sure what you mean by get the frame first

blissful token
blissful token
vagrant topaz
vagrant topaz
blissful token
#

So much measurement to do and plan before making it

vagrant topaz
#

The tower comes with the right cake circle

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To make the cakes the right size

blissful token
#

Wokay

desert jasper
vagrant topaz
#

And it's all pretty standard
Cake rings are even numbers in diameter starting usually at 14

#

Cm

desert jasper
#

i should bake again tbh
but it's kinda annoying being the only one to eat what I bake with diabetes

blissful token
#

Kay idk which one is grammatically correct

vagrant topaz
#

Like 1st one better
Less word = gooder

blissful token
#

Ikr, it feels that way

vagrant topaz
blissful token
#

^ goodest

fierce moth
#

Pet Yarn time.
(I'm outside though)

desert jasper
#

Been playing Apex Legends with friends lately
It's been fun
though I wish one of them had more situational awareness and wasn't always playing when he's super tired

blissful token
#

Apex... i dropped it in season 8 ish after knowing i aint fit for it

fierce moth
keen wind
#

Fire cape soon

#

Went in with just 20 moonlight moths to test the setup (Equivalent to slightly under 5 prayer pots for me)
Made it surprisingly far, should be no issue with actual supplies

fierce moth
#

groleshades
Just get a milestone, reach 900 views on a picture post... Instagram. Yes.

:) No idea why people engage in a pilgrimage even in a old version but I'm appreciated ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

#

9 months are passed quickly

south gust
#

@gusty oriole

gusty oriole
south gust
#

He's a boy. He's just derpy

gusty oriole
#

What a cute little goofball

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He is asking for pets

#

I can see it in his eyes ๐Ÿ‘€

south gust
#

This is my cat, Cheez-it. She's been with me for 11 years

gusty oriole
#

A FLUFFY QUEEN

fierce moth
#

Own a cat and a dog together, Wick is the most happy people in the world.

fierce moth
south gust
#

Sort of. The dog has really bad "first child syndrome" so he pretends like he doesn't like the cat.
The cat on the other hand couldn't care less one way or the other as long as she gets attention.

fierce moth
#

lol Cheez's personality is as same as me

sudden anchor
sudden anchor
south gust
gusty oriole
teal flame
#

Long haired cats are always so majestic

hot crown
#

Even during unhinged zoomie sessions?

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I know one specific maine-coon named Floki von Thunderpaws who's supposed to look majestic like most of 'em but in actuality is a giga derp because he was raised by an orange.

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(The latter is no longer with us, sadly.)

south gust
teal flame
hot crown
#

I actually took that from Kayla Delcoure (@thepawtistics on IG).

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The maine-coon in question is also hers.

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The orange in question was named Gizmo.

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...jfc, why is the server's filter so ridiculous?

junior stirrup
#

Cats \o/

fierce moth
junior stirrup
fierce moth
fierce moth
#

The basic work of the latest painting just did 70% after spent 5h. Figured out how to mix right colours to paint similar colours of textures on the wall is the most time-consuming part.

The reference and my progress.

#

๐Ÿฅฑ That's quite tiring... But worth to try

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No black pigment is annoying, so I ordered 100ml this afternoon. Pastel grey, pastel fawn and titanium white is top 3 colour I consumed the most heavybreathing

vagrant topaz
#

@twilit mountain

  1. Med Check
#

Can be done with regular soft flour

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I wish I had a sugar free recipe for nub

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But I used to make them on the fly, straight in the plate. So no need for a recipe for a fancy fruit salad

desert jasper
#

Eh I can just use insulin
haven't made brownies in like 25 years actually ๐Ÿค”

fierce moth
#

Hi, you exposed my age heavybreathing

blissful token
#

You exposed yourself kappa

vagrant topaz
#

In restaurants I have noticed 3 kinds of person with dietary requirements

  • the ones that tell you in advance and stick to it
  • the ones that tell or don't tell in advance but tell you not to worry
  • and the ones that don't tell you in advance, ask for you to change stuff and end up eating in their partner plate the very thing they are supposed not to eat ๐Ÿ’€
sage flame
#

That's people in general, regardless of whether it's service or retail or anything adjacent

#

You'll either see straightforward people that don't wanna waste your time, picky people that will get passive aggressive towards you not guessing what they wanted, and openly rude people that actively attempt to make your day worse by either making a convoluted request or treating you like a servant

desert jasper
vagrant topaz
#

Remind that time
Couple came in. She was vegan
She tried a squid cracker in her husband appetisers.
For her main dish she requested a green salad with the squid cracker but vegan ๐Ÿ˜‚

desert jasper
#

And how does she expect that to work out omegalulportal

blissful token
#

Didja ๐Ÿช„ the squid cracker?

vagrant topaz
#

We told her it can't be done
Do she still want it?
Yes
And then she took out her own chop sticks to eat

desert jasper
#

one place where I sometimes cooked had one really autistic guy who was super picky about what he eats
he didn't know what this cheese was that was used in the sauce but if we were to explain that it was just blue cheese by another name he wouldn't have eaten it
so his handler told him that it's just this salty cheese that tastes nice and works well in sauces

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Don't miss cooking for more people

vagrant topaz
#

It really depends who you are doing it for

vagrant topaz
desert jasper
#

People

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social interaction

vagrant topaz
#

I see
We share the same kryptonite

desert jasper
#

Also the cooking was pretty basic stuff really
had to just design what we'll eat for the week, get the groceries and then cook
also vegan version ๐Ÿฅฑ
Boss did once ask me to bake a cake for a higher up meeting

the construction stuff was pretty basic stuff too
mostly carrying the bricks and putting them in place
some laser measurements, insulation, stuff

#

never gonna work construction again though

sudden anchor
#

How is life @fierce moth?

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Any new paintings done?

fierce moth
fierce moth
#

https://job-boards.greenhouse.io/taketwo/jobs/6935066

At least 9 years of experience in a related field, 5 of which spent managing international benefits programs including pension, medical, dental, vision, wellbeing, EAP, life, disability, business travel accident, leave and time off policies, back-up childcare, fitness allowance, meal allowance, commuter benefits.

tom First time to hear a job like that exist in this world...

twilit mountain
south gust
twilit mountain
#

They get shuffled around sometimes, just for fun

desert jasper
#

Ah yea
I've certainly had a moment like that with lactose. mostly because I was on a date and the restaurant had for some reason made the stuff with normal milk

tawny sand
#

any one play star valor? is it like star sector?

fierce moth
#

omegalul That's quite healing to watch cat animations I'd like to say... Maybe it's why Tom and Jerry was quite fun to watch and quite popular

ebon meadow
fierce moth
#

๐Ÿค” Many haters can't wait to shout their negative slogan on steam reviews

fierce moth
#

Very indie, even no websites or social medias.

junior oyster
#

And for good reason

placid yarrow
# junior oyster That's a wild take. While some may be haters, some are legit not happy about the...

A negative review implies the game is bad. Leaving a negative review simply because of an acquisition that hasn't had any negative impact on the game as of making said review, especially if the game is actually good, is pretty crazy to me.

There's a reason steam has the asterisk for reviews like that. Imo there should be a totally separate space to communicate your thoughts regarding events like this that still show up on the steam store. But let's be real people would still leave negative reviews even if something like that existed

fierce moth
#

Hah. Met an random excellent artist on internet and I started to feel depressed, anxious and helpless again.
groleshades

It looks pretty good exactly.

#

Procreate & Photoshop.

Alright I hope I can learn how to paint with them one day.

#

Procreate need ipad, Photoshop need tablet. omegalul
I have nothing

#

Physical painting is close to 0% chance to get income definitely. Digital art is the trend.

junior oyster
#

You could talk about how good the game is but at the same time talk about any concerns or issues you might have

placid yarrow
#

Yep I agree

blissful token
#

CO Dev note

#

I like this

Skill descriptions will be refined, with videos added to active skills for better clarity.

#

๐Ÿค”

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Hell yea altitude indicator on compass

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Enhanced quest and map tracker

#
  • Weโ€™ll be adding scenic viewpoints that reveal breathtaking landscapes as players turn corners or reach elevated terrain.

Oo i think Kirra will like this for art

#

Thats a whole dev book and lotsa promises tom

#

Not sure how are they delivering them

tawny sand
#

what do you guys think is the scariest natural disaster? Earthquakes, tornadoes, or hurricanes?

#

for me it's tornadoes

#

they can happen in the middle of sleeping or something suddenly, hurricanes you can at least plan for evacuation typically a few days ahead of time

#

i've never experienced an earthquake so idk much about those

gilded elm
#

Forgot I had this, unboxed it at my new apartment lol

#

PoE2 t-shirt, hoodie and art book from the early access launch.

fierce moth
#

Artbook :(

#

I want one so much.

#

That's a big bonus for joining fan art competitions in the future, includes both of poe and poe 2.

#

Sigh, it's my dead knot of poe 2...

#

Go back to check out new fan arts posted recently... My Jesus.

#

groleshades That's a professional painting obviously...

#

Alright, I think candidate of top 1 is changed

#

Wow, it looks fantastic as a craft. Credit: killmango

#

Viewed all works, I don't find any very cool works about Zana personally.
Yes, I can give my guessing & my preference:
#1 Patrik_h88
#2 4x14
#3 Killmango

muted parrot
# blissful token ๐Ÿค”

Yeah sounds promising and all but if they really wanna release this year, there should be another beta with that much new content.

Tbh the only game Iโ€˜m currently really looking forward to is Where Winds Meet.

blissful token
muted parrot
#

Yeah same, itโ€™s on my wishlist for ages but itโ€™ll release this year also. Last beta is currently going on and everything I saw and heard about it was just great!
And I heard itโ€™s very popular in china where it released ~2 weeks ago iirc.

fierce moth
#

What a long plan is... I guess 2nd public test is next year then

#

I just play the rogue for 2 days so I know their issues poorly

#

Their dev blog in English and Chinese is different completely, not just translate English version

muted parrot
#

Chrono odyssey is in an unfortunate spot after the early version beta and the approaching release date.
Chances are high that the game just wonโ€˜t deliver if they release this year imo

fierce moth
#

Oh the same. I'm viewing different parts so they're different

#

understand every words/hanzi but just don't know what are they saying hhhhhh

muted parrot
blissful token
#

I guess they mean gradually but it feels like those promises political party makes before election

#

The part for ui. They plan to make it more CO's style lol. I guess they do acknowledge everything looks like New World omegalul

acoustic jungle
acoustic jungle
# muted parrot wow I saw that post now and it's funny..they could've just said 'we are working ...
Long recovery frames made it difficult to input new commands during ongoing animations.

Certain motions remained unresponsive even after visual completion.

UI interactions lacked clear visual feedback, making it hard to confirm whether an input was registered.

I wish animation-locking was made illegal. It's 10 times better to have a global cooldown than to feel like you're pressing something and it's not registering at all...24/7...

fierce moth
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ I screwed up the ground by a mistake on perspective of floor edges. No idea how to fix that, I tried to paint a layer of white but it looks worse...

I want to keep gradient colours on the ground which I spent 1.5h to figure them out but paint a layer of white mean lose these details...

Just no way to make a perfect work.

#

No crack on the floor in the reference.
I have no idea do this work have the value to continue yet.

fierce moth
sudden anchor
#

This change coming from a problem made it more interesting to follow.

fierce moth
#

But then I need to think how to paint remain branches in the reference to match with the new change

fierce moth
fierce moth
#

Cozy branches

(My Chinese canvas are ran out with this work is done... Go to consume French canvas then omegalul )

fierce moth
#

Looks quite attractive and beautiful. Can be the next reference omegalul

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But I don't want to ruin such a beautiful landscape and it need 4 days to complete a painting at least, I guess. ๐Ÿ™ Enjoy the game at first anyways.

fierce moth
placid yarrow
fierce moth
#

Thanks

#

hhhhhhhh... ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ 12 cats with different poses are quite fantastic
(I'm addicted in watching cat animations from Simon's cat)

junior oyster
#

The meowing is from him

fierce moth
#

Cuteeeeeeeeeee.

#

Transparent tape stick on the foot at first.
Then go to the other foot.
Then go back to this foot.
Then go to the other foot.
After struggled that a bit, it's on the ear.
Long long time later, it's disappeared.
Well, time to leave. But ||the tape still here... On its tail.
||
hhhhhhhhh

tepid haven
#

romania careva?

fierce moth
#

Imagination is failed.

#

Get USD$100 from a work is quite high for individual artists here omegalul

fierce moth
#

Checked out many of them, alright I confirm a thing...

This world is a huge platform for beginners mainly (่‰ๅฐ็ญๅญ in Chinese)

#

I hope they can hang in enjoying this simple thing after years, painting.

#

They're easier than Chinese to live or just do that as a hobby at least

blissful token
vagrant topaz
blissful token
#

Ragnarok online 3

vagrant topaz
#

Oo

tawny sand
#

oh there's gonna be another one?

#

i thought 2 flopped or something

blissful token
#

Maplestory 2 flopped too Bee

tawny sand
#

rip

fierce moth
#

Random case I met, that's so cute
:)
:(

fierce moth
#

... Just remember I forgot my sour cream onion chips in a mall Facepalm

#

Alright, I give a package of chips to another people for free

neon sigil
#

more work from the game I'm drawing.

fierce moth
neon sigil
fierce moth
#

omegalul The expected thing still happened...lol

#

Facepalm My brain can't recognize Impressionism and permissionism clearly

fierce moth
#

Too cuteeeeeeeee ๐Ÿคฃ

#

I want to find my laugh back now. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Yes, I have no idea how to laugh loudly.

south gust
twilit mountain
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You should eat them

fierce moth
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hah, youtube know me so well.

fierce moth
#

Bee Clark was quit themselves. Ok this thing is over

twilit mountain
#

He flop

tawny sand
#

flopper

fierce moth
#

I'm not done this game is what it reminds me of

desert jasper
#

bloober, not blooder

fierce moth
#

Facepalm .................

  • I bought a pigment set of pastel colours. It have a common name, Macarons colours.
  • Pastel grey and pastel fawn are colours I used the most.
  • They're consumed quickly so I asked their costumer support to get the link of purchasing them seperately.
  • Their employee recommended me to purchased regular grey, regular brown and regular white to mix colours to get colours I want.
  • I paid, I received, I opened and I mixed them. But colours I got are different completely.
  • Asked costumer support again, got the reply "Sorry, colours you want still under production. The factory can't produce them until the end of 2025".
elfin juniper
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coz thumbnail do not embed here I screenshoted it

fierce moth
#

Get a bunch of clouds after brush 2h colours
(They looks raw though... But the first experience to draw cloud is nice)

fierce moth
#

Cuttttttteeeeee (1/1)

fierce moth
karmic nimbus
desert jasper
#

That's for the full release?
kinda sudden

vagrant topaz
#

Is that not for the beta

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?

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They released an Early Acces Deep Dive Video

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Yesterday

desert jasper
#

Wish I could apply for the beta but apparently no

fierce moth
#

? They said it's early access

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๐Ÿ‘€ 4h left for me to brush colours, ok

fierce moth
#

Good night snack reminder she always act omegalul

desert jasper
#

Got to have them snacks

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... I could go for some snacks actually

karmic nimbus
desert jasper
#

oh

karmic nimbus
#

some rumors says it starts today

gilded elm
#

I'm leaning towards today as well.

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We know they are releasing into early access in the Summer, they haven't made any changes to that leading up to this reveal. Summer is approaching its end for most people I imagine.

twilit mountain
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Why does it have to be now :<
I don't think I'll have the money for it right now

gilded elm
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I'd be curious to see how much it is. It's not going to be a seasonal game, it'll be more like Grim Dawn and classic TQ as far as I understand it.

twilit mountain
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Yeah ik, I'm fine with that. The community will probably pull that off eventually like they did for GD anyway

gilded elm
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For sure, I could see community organized seasons and such in the future for TQ2, assuming THQ/GrimLore don't do it themselves.

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That said... I'm guessing around $40-$60 for base game, maybe some kind of deluxe for $70+ lol

twilit mountain
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I just really liked the feel of the game and what they did show us system-wise in the demo so I've been sitting here twiddling my thumbs waiting for news

gilded elm
#

I've been highly skeptical and critical about TQ2 because it's the SpellForce 3 developers working on it and they have no experience with ARPGs to my understanding. But I do really hope they pull it off, I really, really want it to be good.

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So far it looks like they did pretty good modernizing the mastery system.

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Time to watch the deep dive they released yesterday, haven't seen it yet

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Also, holy crap Ragnarok Online 3 looks so good. Huge RO1 vibes, it visually looks like a faithful remake of RO1

fierce moth
gilded elm
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TQ2 early access just released, looks like

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I can't believe this price, tbh

junior oyster
#

Time to purchase and leave a bad review ho ho ho

gilded elm
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lmao

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Released before the reveal stream lol

sand wigeon
#

$30โ€ฆ

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So expensiveโ€ฆ

junior oyster
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Cheap imo

karmic nimbus
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Im getting fiber this month cant wait

junior oyster
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About the same price as LE

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In its EA days I think

karmic nimbus
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30 expensive what

junior oyster
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I'm on the fence with this game. I'm not a big fan of Greek mythology so not sure I'll buy it

karmic nimbus
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Watch some reviews etc first

gilded elm
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The price is just too good for me not to grab it now haha. I figure it'll go up once the game comes out of early access.

junior oyster
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Reviews aren't gunna make me buy the game for the lore but I might pick it up if it has good gameplay

sand wigeon
karmic nimbus
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I get that but that doesnt make it expensive

gilded elm
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Relative to other games of similar production quality these days, IMO it's a reasonable price to release into early access. But yeah, totally get having to prioritize spending.

karmic nimbus
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Yea bills and food first

fierce moth
#

I just start downloading

gilded elm
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I have to finish some work stuff first, but it's Friday so I will definitely play very soon :)

fierce moth
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Time jet means you will play it faster than me :)

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6.2GB is dowloaded

twilit mountain
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I will be late sadly

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And also forcing it to be playable with the magic of settings xdd

fierce moth
#

I need to sleep too ๐Ÿซก

modest spoke
#

TQ2 looks good but there seems to be very little content so far

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Might hold off until 1.0

fierce moth
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It's fine, I don't expect it have lots of contents too... Just a snack to enjoy when I waiting update of le and Poe 2

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Maybe do a fan art, maybe not, depends on how the experience I got is

sand wigeon
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(I meant the latter)

radiant helm
#

Well, THQ saved my entertaiment until season 3

maiden widget
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i expected 50-60

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lmao

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some people really sound so entitled and snobbish

radiant helm
#

I'll say

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Its demanding? yes very

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Its the prettiest isometric ARPG ever? Also yes

azure stratus
#

Can't believe they just released it like that. No hype or anything

hot crown
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Should they hype it up tho?

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It's EA.

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It's a public beta.

acoustic jungle
# maiden widget

The review is accurate and also somewhat fair, except (5), and that's because we don't know. (1) is accurate if we're talking about them just being obvious jerks, but not accurate in the sense that everything they touch is doomed to fail.

You just didn't like how they started the review, but I appreciate them giving me the context of who/what they are upfront, because I'd like to know if the review is made by someone that eats slop for breakfast. That game looks awful all around. Looks like it's stuck in 2007, but wants to escape to 2020. Has no clear endgoals. Cool setting, tho.

hot crown
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It should NOT be advertised openly.

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No EA-stage game should, in fact.

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Because the majority of people still refuses to understand all the implications of what EA phase actually means and entails.

hot crown
#

That said, TQ2 is a pass for me until it's at least fleshed out to some degree.

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Not gonna risk it with EA projects unless it's on a good track, and TQ nostalgia ain't hitting me as much.

placid yarrow
# maiden widget

I feel like there's legit no actual criticism of the actual game here outside of "I wish there was coop in this game that clearly isn't labeled with having it, but I bought it anyway and am giving it a bad review now". The rest of it is just "I don't like x people involved in the game but I bought it anyway" xd

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Reviews like this are always a treat

modest spoke
# maiden widget

Bros complaining about โ€œwokenessโ€ in literal GREEK MYTHOLOGY, the review completely lost me at that point

narrow token
#

4 and 5 sound like moronic nonsense.

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Makes me ashamed to be associated with the gamer tag, even mildly.

tepid otter
#

Does anyone know about how to play Diablo 1 inside Diablo 3?

placid yarrow
tepid otter
placid yarrow
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Very cool, not sure why I never heard of it when I used to play. Maybe I just forgot lol

junior stirrup
#

Oh hey, TQ2. Probably not gonna try it but I definitely sunk a good number of hours into TQ1's first expansion.

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My favourite bug is probably still the one where the game was autosaving on a loop in the background in one of the penultimate areas of the game, slowing your game performance to a crawl unless you moved your whole save directory to a RAM-disk to keep up with the constant HDD churn.

tepid otter
azure stratus
placid yarrow
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I don't see the issue in advertising an EA launch as long as you make it clear it's EA, which honestly steam kinda forces you to be clear about anyway

sand wigeon
# maiden widget

Me when the godly beings are referred to as they and it upsets me

tawny sand
twilit mountain
# maiden widget
  1. yeah. THQ Nordic made the first game so they're making the second.That's how IPs work.
  2. This criticism can be applied to Last Epoch, PoE2, PoE1 when it was in beta, Diablo 4 beta, Slormancer beta, and that's just the ARPGs I can think of off the top of my head, other genres I can name many more. Also Vampire Survivors is not an ARPG, fool.
  3. It's been like 20 years since TQ1 came out, of course a lot of the devs back then aren't there anymore, that's how moving on works.
  4. oh my gods, who the hell cares, you loser.
  5. DX12 is good, you goober. My games with DX12 run infinitely better than 11. Yes Unreal 5 has issues, it's still a pretty new engine, give it time. And seriously, most games need an SSD now, that's how time works.
  6. This is not, I repeat NOT a requirement for a modern ARPG. As much as I love having multiplayer features in them, I played LE far more before co-op existed, Slormancer doesn't have co-op, I have played a whopping 40 hours of Diablo 3 in co-op (and I've played a fairly decent amount of D3), I've barely interacted with the multiplayer parts of D4, PoE I almost exclusively use it for trade, Grim Dawn I've never used the online features, hell even Diablo 2 I've barely touched any of the online features outside of the like 4 items I traded for in PD2.
fierce moth
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@gilded elm how your progress of tq 2 going?

gilded elm
fierce moth
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Their cm received 800+ dm... Too crazy

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?! Hold on, Chris update a video

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Oh no, I'm a bit busy today

fierce moth
#

Game studios are rare to hire ideas people because it's the work of the people who provide money usually. - Chris
๐Ÿค”

maiden widget
#

passing on tq2 for now, theres not much content and many masteries arent finished sadly

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kinda thought it'd be further along with them moving it twice already

fierce moth
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I'm curious about how Chris review a job in game industry, concept artists lol

That's... Conflicted completely

fierce moth
#

โœ… Known artists in EHG +1

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Oh I don't follow Sam yet

gilded elm
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Yo that VA is Emma Gregory, for sure lol

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Can't forget one of the greatest audiobook narrator and video game voices.

fierce moth
#

hah? It even keep old saves before... ๐Ÿ˜… I forgot which characters have I played already

fierce moth
#

I remember available contents in demo can support me to lv 6 only. It's the end.

maiden widget
#

i heard people say its like 2-3h of content so i cant say how much more there is

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i'll wait a bit longer thats a bit meh for now

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theres more in hellclock i want to do anyway

narrow token
#

That number keeps going down

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First I heard 10-15H, then 6-7, now I hear 2-3. ๐Ÿคฃ

maiden widget
#

well makes sense now that more people play it

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i kinda assume like 5 and thats not great for an arpg

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i'd just like the devs to be more open to how much content there is in early access its always hard to gauge

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i've played the last demo so i'd love to know how much more there is for example

fierce moth
gilded elm
#

Without a specific endgame, I assume the amount of content is largely horizontal instead of vertical. So, number of mastery permutations multiplied by campaign content. That number would drop sharply if you're not interested in trying a variety of different mastery permutations or want more varied kinds of content.

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It's an... interesting choice to release an ARPG into early access without some kind of repeatable vertical content, like an endgame, even a half-baked one like PoE2 did.

maiden widget
maiden widget
gilded elm
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True, I would like to see a roadmap.

maiden widget
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i'd like to see features available now, some rough milestones and a general idea what they want to offer later (multiplayer, expansion/live service model)

gilded elm
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It's always better when devs and players are on the same page when it comes to content expectations.

maiden widget
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i read through the page and its pretty much saying nothing yet

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Meaningful loot: Every item serves a function, and every character class has many options when it comes to finding the perfect equipment.
this is also funny

gilded elm
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That's kinda vague, not sure what to make of it. Don't know if that means you can salvage bad loot, and/or there's a good crafting system or target farming or what lol

tawny sand
#

i wonder if they're doing monster infrequents and components for tq2

gilded elm
#

They do seem to have Infrequent rarity, might be similar to MI's

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I'm still very early though. Only just unlocked a mastery.

tawny sand
#

gotcha, let us know what you think

maiden widget
#

yeah interested as well

gilded elm
#

I'm assuming you can have 2 masteries, which at a glance seems like it should lead to some interesting build possibilities.

tawny sand
#

yeah i believe they have dual masteries, they did in the demo

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at least i recall it being there i could be wrong

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my memory is hazy now tbh

gilded elm
#

It should, I think TQ1 has it and Grim Dawn definitely has it.

tawny sand
#

tq1 had dual masteries yeah

fierce moth
#

.... I need to kill that boss again in ea

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otherwise I can't access new area

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I'm finding my memory on attributes and skills back

gilded elm
#

The interesting thing is TQ2 is a different dev than TQ1/GD, but from what I can see they really tried to stay faithful to the mastery system while simultaneously expanding/innovating it.

maiden widget
#

i mean if you make a 2 game they'd better come close to the original

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and yeah ironlore basically only made grim dawn after TQ as a new company and then worked on some RTS(?)

tawny sand
#

crate made farthest frontier if that's what you mean by rts

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it's a city builder

gilded elm
#

Yeah that's the one you might be thinking

maiden widget
#

yep sounds right

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i think i mixed the rts up with dungeons of dredmore devs

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oh that was clockwork empire and also citybuilding,weird

gilded elm
#

But my observation is mostly just acknowledging that GrimLore (TQ2 dev) is at least showing respect to the things that made the first game great.

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Hopefully I don't end up too disappointed as I progress lol

tawny sand
#

hopefully lol

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they did a good job with Spellforce 3 (another franchise they didn't start) so I'm hoping they can pull it off again with TQ

fierce moth
#

Facepalm I stick on that boss again

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Their boss combat is still as hard as before, no change

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I dislike this boss combat so much :(

fierce moth
#

Ok, yes, new maps available after played that past cutscene which mean the end of demo

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I'm on the map at the right side

fierce moth
#

2500 golds for a new stash omegalul

fierce moth
#

6300 golds for refunding all attribute points omegalul

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This system is interesting ๐Ÿค”

gilded elm
fierce moth
#

๐Ÿ‘€ Byte didn't play demo before?

gilded elm
#

Nope

fierce moth
#

That's quite impressive that you even don't need barrier and you lose zero health in the whole combat... groleshades

gilded elm
#

The attacks have good telegraphs, didn't seem too difficult to avoid getting hit

fierce moth
#

Yes, I guess this game don't be friendly of my wireless mouse. Huge delay

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Experience with controller better than mouse and keyboard a lot

gilded elm
#

Yeah I want to also try controller on my TV at some point. Seems like it would be fun, like PoE2

tawny sand
#

could try wasd movement if you haven't, i think it had it in the demo maybe

hot crown
#

Stems from education issues as well if I had to guess.

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Those people might lack the ability to learn altogether.

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Hell if I know.

abstract karma
gilded elm
abstract karma
#

i know.. Either way it look cool but i will wait on full, SP ARPG's are best this way.. I'm not testing guy

desert jasper
#

Okay
Bought it

gilded elm
#

Nice

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It's all a hand-crafted world like TQ1 and GD, I'm spending a lot of time exploring every corner and it's actually kinda nice lol

desert jasper
#

Just need to wait until it's finished downloading

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And then hope it actually has decent performance

maiden widget
#

i dont think you can really say you dont know it's early access when you need to scroll over a huge block

abstract karma
#

Not their problem but problem of people of 2025 which dont wanna read

maiden widget
#

then they can still refund within 2h, i dont think we need to dumb down things more if people choose to stay ignorant

tawny sand
#

i don't know how to read ๐Ÿ˜”

maiden widget
#

๐Ÿ˜„

blissful token
#

The letter r-e-a-d put together doesnt make sense to me

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What is that? Can eat?

tawny sand
#

i took hooked on phonics and i beliave it's pronounced ree-add

blissful token
#

Like... this?

tawny sand
#

yeah but you add it

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maffs

fierce moth
#

I'm died 2 times here because I stick on here and can't move when the last wave of enemies appeared and the boss just stand on my current location, many enemies surround me.

The fault of their environment artists I'll say because the boss skill they designed force me to run in a circle. The edge of rocks on here isn't flat and plants on the edge influence me to judge where should I run to be honest. @cerulean smelt

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Plus I have no idea how to solve energy issue because none of them can help me regen energy quickly. The only passive relevant to this area give... I can say zero help. 1% energy per second not enough at all, for these spell skills. I use fissure as main attack.

No idea what have I did wrongly, I find zero modifiers can reduce energy cost either fissure or another spells. All modifiers just increase energy cost.

I have find a energy potion help energy regeneration indeed but even +3 energy regeneration, the speed of recovering energy still slower than spending speed A LOT. Energy potion can get 1 charge per 1s, it mean I have 4-6s I can't use potion once it's ran out. Then I can dodge enemy's attack only, the combat isn't smooth at all.

I have another mana potion in fact, it have a bonus is "on use gain 50 max mana in 5s". This is no sense too due to the same reason.

karmic nimbus
desert jasper
#

Hmm the first boss was surprisingly easy
but then I died to crabs after it

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Funnily enough seems like me & kirra picked same masteries
though I went warfare first

fierce moth
#

Time to think the last layer stuff

ebon meadow
#

What game is this ,I m confused it's not LE lul

junior oyster
#

TQ2

ebon meadow
#

I see wording on things is a bit meh , but that I guess because I don't know how energy works lol

fierce moth
desert jasper
#

But I'm not really using Earth for offense that much
mostly supporting the warfare

fierce moth
ebon meadow
desert jasper
#

Yeah instead of 100% of dmg going to life it's 90% to life and 10% to energy

fierce moth
#

The readability of their tooltips for skills are poor... I even no idea do physical damage scale with fissure or not base on them.

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I just know earth's passive supports fire and physical damage, no idea which skills are scale with physical damage...

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This game have strike damage too, more confusing

tawny sand
#

oh dang there's gonna be a darksiders 4

twilit mountain
tawny sand
#

i wonder what 4 will be like, they all have different vibes kind of. i think that's why i like the series so much

radiant helm
#

Is how POE2 said 6 months, we're near the 1 year mark and nowhere near release

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Not to mention it being a paid game with the excuse of "it'll eventually maybe be f2p" to sell awful monetization

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All those things left a bad taste in people's mouth

#

Realistically, TQ2 currently is not even early access, its a demo at best

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I got it because i'd buy it anyway, better do so while its cheaper

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But truth is, for many many people 20$ is a lot of money, and its the only game they can buy in a month if not more

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While i personally don't care much, i can understand why people felt bad about purchasing it

fierce moth
#

groleshades This dragon is quite scary bacause... Another tough learning process of boss combat is here

fierce moth
#

I wish I have ability of Byte :(

#

I have no idea how to dodge multiple wave circles

radiant helm
#

Also, one more thing, the game is absurdly demanding RN, a friend with a 4060 is having a pretty unplayable experience, so i can also see why ppl are mad about that

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Here it runs with 1/4th LE performance, kinda crazy

fierce moth
twilit mountain
gilded elm
#

So I'm taking my time

fierce moth
fierce moth
#

My progress

gilded elm
#

Yeah it's massive

fierce moth
#

Facepalm I'm slower a lot once I met boss encounter

#

Why I can't move in normal speed after she summon a water pillar

gilded elm
#

Maybe it slows

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It's probably cold damage, and cold damage can chill I think

gilded elm
#

This is all quite chonky for one act, damn

sand wigeon
#

Well, itโ€™s a typically a three act structure, not a ten act structure.

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(Am I funny yet?)

fierce moth
#

Too many contents for single act when more acts are coming base on current map scale for me

#

The map of act 1 enough for 2 acts

fierce moth
sand wigeon
# fierce moth I don't get the joke ๐Ÿ˜…

The three act structure is a general literature format, and generally describes every story out there. Itโ€™s why acts in ARPGโ€™s are called that, because it was originally based on a three act structure

fierce moth
#

understand 50% now because no idea on how these devs build the story in ARPG

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๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜… ...

sand wigeon
#

Writing is my life, so

fierce moth
#

Make sense.

fierce moth
#

๐Ÿค” Do gambler is a part in all loot-based ARPG?

junior oyster
#

Always has been

fierce moth
#

More areas I explored in tq 2, more feelings for GG want to build their campaign like D4

junior oyster
#

GG?

fierce moth
#

Grimlore Games

karmic nimbus
#

i dont see any similarities

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except doing quests

fierce moth
#

I saw that temple which appeared in a post from tq 2 twitter account, finally, even just glanced at that from a far distance ๐Ÿ‘€

fierce moth
desert jasper
#

Man
It really reminds me of titan quest 1 so far

fierce moth
#

It will more similar if they release a horse to ride later hhhh

desert jasper
#

Ehh I don't think we need a horse
Simply increasing movement speed out of combat would be enough

junior oyster
fierce moth
#

yes, current ms....Toooooooo slow

#

boots which include ms affix is rare for me, I just met that 2 times and both of them on boots which armour is less

junior oyster
#

Situational

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But I see MS being better than armour especially in early game

#

Heck in endgame too but by then you get better equipment

gilded elm
#

TQ2 does a much better job at world/environment presentation I think, but D4 is a more cinematic experience. Very different art styles and themes, IMO TQ2 has the upper hand in environmental aesthetics.

fierce moth
#

lv 15 so far, this is...middle game?

junior oyster
#

No idea I don't have the game

karmic nimbus
#

TQ2 world is handcrafted fully

gilded elm
karmic nimbus
#

Im 19

fierce moth
#

omegalul As expected. You're faster

#

Both of you is lv 19 but not complete act 1 yet? ๐Ÿค”

karmic nimbus
#

Explore everything

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I think im close to last place

gilded elm
#

Yeah I'm exploring every single thing

karmic nimbus
#

Ice shards is absurdly broken op

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Next i try is fire whirlwind

desert jasper
#

I'm lvl 15

#

Sweeping strike is strong
could make cyclone out of it but don't feel like it

fierce moth
#

oh thanks.

fierce moth
#

Gregory My screenshot is here

jade jackal
#

lmao

#

we did take a similar screenshot

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I wish i could uplaod full resolution png, but i canceled my Discord nitro

jade jackal
#

I just picked it up and it seemed to be really nicely combining with its perks

#

Like, this is how ice shards need to be done

fierce moth