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skill issue on your part ngl @severe river
Have you ever seen gaming journalism from IGN, Kotaku, or Polygon? Me neither.
dunno 'bout all of that, but i sure have seen trolls before
@severe river i totally agree
Well, maybe someone will answer how the rarity of an item works here because 300 of it or 3+k I didnโt feel any difference
its because you are filtering to only find very specific items ๐ of course nothing drops if ur actually at 3k corr you actually have nothing to grind for if ur at 3k corrupt then you dont need any gear https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/category/swords2h/items tells u the chance
God bro we are talking about the fact that I am farming a 2lp sword for myself, I took all the blessings for it, and a special region, for 1.3+k cards I did not see a single 2lp sword, moreover, I only received about 8 1lp swords. the same result was at 300-500 corrupta. That's why I have questions, which karrupt need to be conquered in order to get lucky drops?
Iโll also progress my build and itโs not cheap. 1 try for a legendary costs on average 25kk, but with each upgrade I get the same amount. if you take it, everything is clear there, I put together a build with little cheap farming and so on. I don't understand here
idk what sword ur farming for bro but you got 7 other swords that drop baseline then you need to drop that proper unique and then have that like 0.25% chance to w/e to roll lp on it the database is there it tells you the chances tells you where to farm it etc
Do prophecys
what sword?
yo <@&1161418687471956101> ^ (sorry for the ping, but i'm assuming this warrants such an occasion)
Is this like some kind of virus people are getting that's doing this? I can't imagine people would be this stupid.
yeh Rev, it's likely a hijacked/compromised Discord account. very common, you see it on Steam a lot as well.
never change off topic chat, never change. Even when LE discord blew up , we have the same people here
i like turtles
who doesn't?!
Check out my Last Epoch playlist on spotify! 43 hrs of gaming music from game soundtracks and composers! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6Pd0i6Bxfw1V0OodxfYvic?si=b138c6fe5a8e4778
Turtle is non argumentatively the best animal in the animal kingdom- possibly sharing the spot with the majestic creatures known as frogs
Have to disagree. The best animals are the likes of spiders and snakes.
d4 bad
someone else found beer as health?
https://imgur.com/a/nRc9g4E
according to lead dev from poe, poe1 is way to easy and simple. poe will be harder
Good
is the earth flat ๐ค
FROG MENTION ๐ฃ๏ธ๐ฃ๏ธ๐ฃ๏ธ
we all know cat's are the superior animal. here's mine currently plotting my demise no doubt: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761716200504819724/1217284074222260426/20181028_235258.jpg?ex=66037723&is=65f10223&hm=02307609ee246de54e5bb3d9058eaf9858d4e3b996d903c8fb72904c157571c8&
Classic Cat W
That was Chris Wolcen's dream, to make people hate PoE
It's an easter egg
Think there's one that's even rarer than beer?
Only people who arnt made for arpg will hate it
people do not need a reason to hate something- humans do be like that
Guys we should have beer crafting in the game, and beer should increase damage instead of heal
yeah that's what I'm talking about, it should increase damage instead of heal. And we should be able to craft some!
It should make our screen blurry and our character to vomit losing 5% hp per sec for 10 secs. It's a feature.
nah, beer = enemy dodge chance increased 50%
Social platforms ruin games. Example from here. There is a lot of bad stigma against FG, but it's perfectly playable. But that's because if it don't go Warp TEN, it is actually standing in place. According to social platforms.
That doesn't make sense, cuz it's kinda hard to grow a community without any social interaction...but okay.
I dislike social media too, but...gotta get outside of the house at some point and touch grass.
Also, what are "FG" and "Warp Ten?"
FG?
Warp Ten is a Star Trek reference, basically means fast.
fg = forge guard probably
FG = Forge Guard ; Warp Ten = maximum theoretical speed in Star Trek. What I meant to say that given the nature of social media, if a thing is not within 99th percentile, it's not worth thinking about. What a garbage mindset, but alright. I just see the entire social media phenomenon as extremely harmful. But ofc I do when it is a marketeer's wet dream. Horrible.
Huh, I was thinking of trying out Forge Guard, lol. Anyways, the whole reason why games buff and nerf things is to change the meta, at least that's the game philosophy of PoE. So FG might not be meta atm, but later on, it might become more relevant.
It wouldn't be good game design, and would be a very dull game, if the meta is very consistent or constant throughout the timeline of multiple years.
I get this. But how things are perceived on YT etc is way different. Given the algorithms etc. And this influences so much, it can and does ruin lives, games, most of things it touches. Basically, use it either for need or for fun, but don't rely too much on it. Because they don't peddle truth. And even if they did, subjective experiences might render it all unimportant. What I am trying to say is "try to not miss out on things because of social media".
I mean, you can say the same thing for most systems and organizations developed by humanity. The problem isn't "X" directly...it's people in general.
But yeah, I agree, social media is a dangerous place, and there are still legal and public issues with it in these modern times.
However, I think the issue is the wielder of the tool, and not the tool itself.
Powerful tools are pointless without great wisdom...
Agreed. It's far too easy to misuse these and up hurting oneself. As for the Forge Guard, its numbers are really, but really solid, if not good. Should it receive more streamlining of passives and other QoL? Yes. But buff? Eh. I wouldn't say so. Maybe more health on Forged Weapons. Because, look, during leveling, if you are doing it properly, you end up with like 15 weapons that each does 500 damage and attacks twice / second. Go figure it out! 15000 dps lol. The only place where it could need help is way up, above 90 or something. Besides QoL, ofc. But listening to social media, you would think that it don't function at all.
well its normal to compare things. Ofc you can play non optimal things but naturally you'll spend more effort on making things working vs. the new hot things
That's the "meta" mindset in online games, I think. If B is 5% behind A, B is literally unusable and you're a fool for even considering it!
What garbage mindset is this?
It's quite common in competitive games. Obviously people want to use every advantage, but it gets super toxic real quick.
Yeah, my lack of ambition and competitiveness shows, I guess. I would rather have a comfortable, fun, thematic experience than a cutting edge, down to 99.99% efficiency one.
I'm the same. But I despise competition. Hate how it makes me feel, and I really don't like how it causes other people to interact with one another.
Yeah, there is definitely the point of being overcompetitive from little-to-no challenges. Reminds me of WarFarm's community (Warframe).
Then there are folks having competitions in drinking the most water irl, and then folks actually die...(salt/water biological balance)
ill have you know that i can drink 18L of water a day- this is peak performance
Never heard of WarFarm tbh and I have almost 1500 hours in Warframe.
It's just a warframe meme. Wait until 6k+ gameplay hrs, then the brain disease kicks in. Whispers in the Walls...
if you live somewhere humid, you basically have to drink 18L of water a day, since you basically sweat it all back out almost immediately lol
Hydrohomies holy
๐ฐ closest emoji i could find lol
recommendations for PC builders that offer financing options, on the market for a new desktop.
edit: work too much and don't have the time to build my own
depends on where youre from isnt it
Shipping exists
thats not the point the difference of being in canada vs the US is massive because you have to pay extra when it comes over the border
wish i could help, but i build all of my own, and mostly from kitbash at that lol. not personally a big fan of financing stuff either, but i'm sure you can use some googlefu. a cursory search showed this: https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/nbf504/financing_a_gaming_pc_what_route_to_take/ (and there's many more similar threads from this subreddit by the looks of it) - addendum: i'm sure this goes without saying, but go for the lowest APR/or no APR ideally
If ure thinking about financing options i didnt think shipping would be "okay", since shipping from US to UK for example might as well be extortion.
GeforceNow, cheaper than buying a new desktop
I can't believe Kung Fu Panda made more money than Dune this past weekend
Dune is for deep lore enthusiast nerd and geeks, kung fu panda is for general family 5 kids 10 wifes. One is fine dining the other is chips
LISAN AL GAIB
It's been a month and slow mode is still here? 
yes & yes, but nothing as hardcore as Nutty Putty. i'll be doing Tumbling Rock Cave, @desert vigil. six miles of surveyed cave systems, think of it as an underground mountain of sorts. my SCCI permit is set for the end of the month, super hyped. it'll be my second time doing this cave: https://www.theoutbound.com/alabama/photography/explore-tumbling-rock-cave - from my last visit, pre-cave: https://i.imgur.com/ln4l2md.jpeg inside cave: https://i.imgur.com/zwEJPTn.jpeg post-cave: https://i.imgur.com/EXJxcfG.jpeg
SILENCE
by the end, i was completely soaked from head to toe in sweat lol. also about 2 miles in, we turned off all of our light sources, and no natural light seeps in that deeply. just total pitch black darkness. the darkest void you can imagine. it was awesome. except for these cave spider crickets (bat food) right above our heads the whole time: https://i.imgur.com/wEn2LeG.jpeg THEY ARE EVERYWHERE
quin get banned before league reveal pepW
Who?
What to play for next league hmm
Nothing. You should be playing D4 gauntlet.
wait for them to introduce new League builds and gems
same as every leauge TS deadeye it has been great for ages and it will probably be great still
Man anyone here playing any mmos? Thinking of getting back in wow or xiv as a healer inbetween my hardcore deaths but can't decide which one
Nope. I hate mmos. But good luck with getting back into mmos though >:
meh to mmos in 2024 but i can recommend Last Epoch its awesome
Every year I dread more and more going back into MMOs until I stopped thinking about mmos
i personally favor FF14 since it has imo a nicer story presentation- specifically it actually tells me what the next main story quest is- and it doesnt force me to start the story from a modern expansion
any chance devs make set gear better (green ones) becouse there is no build to make those worth
thinking to going back to PoE becouse trading items is much more effective than last epoch, and rewarding, just wondering why the hell there is reputation to buy items, just make no sense?`becouse what i seen is bots farming gold and items anyway, and same time getting reputation for them selfs, coming back when LE rework trade system way better than this is right now( its now clunkcy as hell)
just delete all that stuff what u have in ur mind and let ppl trade stuff and sell (whitout that crappy repu or what lvl you are in guild) not good joices what u made.. There allways gonna be bots who gonna " flip gold " or going to sell gold
No.
Seeing that Grim Dawn is very cheap now due to Steam Sales, I could buy it with all DLC or just the base game, how important would they be?
uh yeah true! and good content tho 669.3 hours played GD and 8560 hours PoE๐
but overall GD is way much fun than LE
LE focused to much ppl who gonna "flip" or " bot " items and make game worse, and added reputation levels
why the fukkk i wanna kill over 50 billion monsters to trade this one item for nothing?
but when playing multiplayer, trade is important becouse many many ppl wanna get good loot and sell it...
"i dont like sell items " most those guys playing Self found (its in the game atm)
you playing alone or couple friend doing endless monos whit out getting rewarded, kinda sucks
and wondering why i doing this after 200hours ๐
or do just leveling other class for content? make no sense to getting 800 stability for each boss for no rewards? ehm.....
might as well get the DLC. two unlock a class, one gives you the crucible which is really great for quick powerleveling alts and stuff.
what do you mean? how is poe different when you play ssf? what reward are you asking for when playing ssf? do you drop mageblood every hour when playing poe ssf?
sure poe trade is better, no deny, but a trade system that has more suppliers will naturally be better, not mentioning that CoF is kinda overtuned, making MG players feel worse in comparison
in LE, CoF is kinda too good it sucks away trade playerbase, thereby reducing trade quality and quantity
idk trade def has its perks by allowing you to easily access items im playing CoF and just trying to grind for some of these items for LP is pretty miserable yea ill def be going trade fully next cycle unless they directly improve LP of appearing on uniques in general there is no way im farming 100 lagons for a chance at a 2lp etc
yep salutes to you i could never grind for a specific item knowing i may never get it
me getting ravenous void from a rune of ascendance is the brightest moment of my LE time, more so than the random orian's eye drop back in 0.9
I enjoy ssf more in poe compared to le
why? you enjoy punitive drop rate?
In my opinion path of exile is perfect made for ssf. Its alot fun to craft and farm your own items. With trade its also way to easy. Also Its fun to progress faster in ssf then most trade Player. i dont want a special ssf bonus to get everything faster
perfect made for ssf? bro smoking high dosage of weed? ssf wasn't even added as a mode until patch 2.6.0
the whole game has never been designed with ssf in mind, at all, everything about the drop rate has always revolved around trade, thus resulting in abysmally and artificially low drop rate
people play ssf in poe because they want to farm their own stuff, never ever because drop rate in ssf is "perfect", in fact they have to deal with the low drop rate as a punishment just so they can find their own stuffs, the kind of drop rate they endure but definitely not enjoy
most of them, including famous ones like ziz or steelmage, explicitly said that poe drop rate is terrible for ssf players and CoF in LE feels much nicer for them as ssf lovers
there should be no punishment if you want to find your own stuffs while playing arpg, it should feel fun to find your own stuffs, not frustration
Sorry but I ain't ever going ssf in poe. It sucks really bad unless you know what you need to do. And I don't have neither time or patience to learn some punishing mode. CoF is way better than poe ssf imo.
Ofc there is no doubt that poe trade is miles better than le trade.
I realy like the current state of droprates in ssf. I am never limited in any kind of content i want to do. I like the journey in poe ssf
Completely off-topic, but the community here is just so nice so I'll ask away, mod please delete if not the right place. My PC is having a hard time handling multiplayer on LE, so I'm looking to upgrade a large part of it (CPU, MB, RAM) (but keep my 3080Ti GPU). The choice of processor will have a massive impact on the choice of the rest of the components and overall I can't really choose. I use my PC for gaming but also work, but nothing intensive like rendering, I can afford to spend money but I want to see value for my bucks. Most Benchmark are hailing the Ryzen7 7800X3D , but is the increased gaming performance worth it, while MB compatible cost is higher and RAM management seems to be better with Intel. What do you recommend?
I would recommend an i7. Affordable, strong performance. AMD seems to have the most problems in LE so I wouldn't recommend it. You could go i9 if you really want to, just make sure you have a good cooling solution.
drop rate is more than fine for ssf, you actually dont need to drop the same tier 0s each league to make a usable build
That's not fine drop rate, you just get used to enduring it
People play arpg mainly to have a blast, a mere usable build is not enough to blast anything
Not trying to criticize your way of playing, but just pointing out the mere truth that majority of poe players including the veteran streamers don't like ssf drop rate
i recall you just had your first league and you meta-ed the hell out of it. ssf is a different game and you still got lots to learn. as you know i dont play normal poe so my ideal drop rate is not what the modern arpg player wants
I did play ssf actually, after I was done with trade league, wasn't a fun experience, feel no different from playing ssf in d2 with similarly punitive drop rate
It's true I got a lot to learn, but it doesn't change and will never change my thought that poe ssf drop rate is terrible
It may surprise you but I hate trading in general, and if somehow they raise drop rate of ssf in poe2 for example, I will never touch trade league
reee i hate when game companies boast about the fact that they have crossplay so you buy the game and the cross play is actually not even working and never has
10 minute slow mode timer on off-topic?
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They wont increase the droprates in poe1 or 2 because that means diffrent Balance. Droprates are more then fine in ssf. Yes you have to play more but thats the whole purpes to play ssf. If ssf is to hard and timeconsuming for you can allways make it easy and go trade
I can ask about potentially lowering the slow-mode here, it's been lowered to 1 min in #๐ฌโgeneral so 10 min seems a bit high. Channel doesn't see that much traffic though so I don't think it's a problem yet
testing slow mode
poe isnt fun and u need to play it for 2 years to learn the game. LE you understand and have fun with the first day
that's why as much as I dislike trade, I dislike ssf drop rate even more, so have to play trade
and like I said, drop rate may be fine to some minority of players, but majority of them absolutely dislike it
also I correct you there 1 massive mistaken point: people play ssf to find their own stuffs, they don't play ssf because it's difficult and tedious, there are huge differences between ssf players and masochistic players
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As i said for me they are fine, they dont gatekeep me at all. I dont mind to farm 100 ubermaeven sets day 5 of the league in ssf
in ruthless this league i found two awakened gems i could use , ashes, defiance etc 
Ye droprates still way to high for my taste
nah ruthless is at the right spot for me, with no rarity mods affecting map tiers any extra MF like diablo 2 again is worth putting on. normal poe then yah they embraced the modern loot pinata thing by now
i dont believe this anyway, whats your char name ? yes to you
you mean account name ? my character was called https://poe.ninja/builds/afflictionssf/character/Casie0046/Casie_Affliction?i=0&search=name%3Dcasie
thats good but in week 1 a bow build can clear that much and that fast already ? mine this league https://poe.ninja/builds/afflictionr/character/Hellen4U/ProudExistence?i=1
yes, its around 1k edps bow and thats by far enough for everything. I started with maeven around day 4 this league. when you get omni its realy easy to farm ubers. but realy sick gear for rutheless !
yeh the axe and rings were crafted from a rare base + eternal orb / annul / exalt combos. with eternal orb you can really make do with little
meanwhile some people complain about droprates xdd. No gamer moments
poe drop rate bad
so nostalgic, sound just like d2 veterans defending d2 is the best ever arpg in the whole 21st century no other arpg can come close, and everything in d2 is "perfect", "just right", "people complaining are all idiots"
but it's ok, every dynasty in the past has fallen due to ultra conservatism and absolute resistance to change
llamasc still defending D2 out here
talking about him, where's dbrunski, haven't heard from him for years, MIA?
isnt he still streaming with his usual schedule
is he? I check his youtube channel and his last video was 8 months ago? I don't follow his twitch stream
oh boi, he looks massively different with the moustache
no content in d4 to make content on youtube
time for him to learn path of exile
or time for him to take a rest from arpg altogether, it's not like one has to stick to 1 single tree for 1 whole life
PoE is great game. SSF mode (and in my personal opinion ruthless) is trash that only a few people truly like.
wait, wtf poe got a 3.7gb patch? 3.23.2
No update for me o.O
Still no change to timer on #๐โoff-topic smh...
Anyway this looks pretty awesome (pal world raid boss teaser):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQx7CGCA4Yc&t=6s
Tell me the part where Path SSF has target farming.
Engine update
Woohoo we finally got down to 1 min timer.
No self-promo here, please.
heyyooo 1 minute cooldown!
Divination card
ah yes divination card that says "Belt" in Orange letter and and god knows what are the odds of hitting something good from it
You can target farm the divination card
<@&1161418687471956101> spam
Or how about doing t17 maps 
Hi
<@&1161418687471956101> spam, again!
target farm div card is like target farm unique items in a specific LE timeline, you farm for 1 week and still not get that piece you want
where da fuq is my raven's rise
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'sup y'all 
We need a channel for memes! 

https://i.postimg.cc/Xqs68D4y/image.png
There was one
But it was removed
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i lowkey need some help
On that topic.
Allowing people to post url's, is that not more harmful than allowing media as media follows specific img formats while urls can point to anything?
Indeed
Love the guaranteed 6L bow from cards and guaranteed essence spawn per map combo from passive tbh, farmable 6L bodies are nice too
Next league I wanna try to make an iron mass poison skellies build, both weapons are targettable too so that should be fun
next league I'm thinking of playing holy flame totem, but again, nothing is set in stone until patch note
Never really played totems before, the skill does look pretty strong with some sources of totem limit
If I get around to totems I wanna try ballista ones, maybe siege ones with iron commander
I hate tundra stalkers man
Kinda stopped noticing them with enough armor tbh, it's DoTs getting me now
any1 getting dragon dogma 2?
No
want to, but too expensive
Real question. Does anyone recommend Diablo 4?
I know it's bad, but at 50%, maybe it's worth it?
I'm leaning towards Horizon Forbidden West instead tbh
No I don't see it being worth it. For the same price you get a superior game (Last Epoch) if you don't already have it.
Likewise you get most of the grim dawn content for just a little bit more (no loyalist packs though)
I bought LE for like, 3$. Sadly can't support the devs more ๐ฉ
Also have Grim Dawn
And spending that same money in poe for stash tabs especially while on sale will be worth more overall
That's fine imo. Dunno how you spent 3$ on it though xD
Tbh I'm sick of PoE
Maybe once PoE2 is out, I'll come back to it. But currently the game feels old and is still too complicated
I think you'll hate D4 more than poe then. It's ok for the campaign (the ending is awful imo) and maybe about 10 hours per season I guess
poe2 will be harder and even more complicated because according to lead dev of poe, poe1 is way to simple and easy
Simple and easy...
Idk how many of PoE players can play the game without a guide?
So crafting will be even worse. ๐
crafting is in a good spot atm
Also, I already have a few stashes on PoE
The currency one, a few premium ones (for trading)
And I think the cards one? Not sure
I mean if you absolutely want D4 then get it.
It isn't the worst game ever nor is it the worst arpg (I'd rather play D4 over hero siege or wolcen for example).
It just feels empty and bland is all
I also have Wolcen. Shame how much that game fell
From what I've read, it was supposed to be unique and different, but ended up being so bad
The campaign is really good
W
LCEN
Damn I guess there are people who liked the campaign huh. I liked it up until ||the death of izual||
Better than me. I don't even remember who that is.
In hindsight, though I think the story was well acted in D4, I can't get invested in stories like that game where basically nobody gets to live a good life. Everybody gets maimed, mutilated or killed. There's absolutely 0 hope in that game's narrative.
||daddy angel gets stabbed by mommy demon. You know just some family stuff||
I mean the voice acting is spot on for sure
hey is there anyone on here that i can join a vc with and have them help me out with some streaming questions?
a lot of the VA in PoE doesn't get enough love. there's some really great dialogue. my favorite is Victario's final entry, the cadence and how every line seemingly has more anguish than the last: https://oriath.net/Audio/Act_3/Ancient_Notebook/
my other favorite is the Labyrinth poems, which i made a point to try and listen to virtually every time i'd run any sorta lab: https://oriath.net/Audio/Labyrinth/Poem/
Hope this game verified on steam deck
I wouldn't count on it soon
i have that on ps5 ๐
No VA beats Sister Cassia ๐ซ
Could anyone let me tp my alt to them at the end of time
you mean ||Inarius||
Yes lol. Having Izual for the third time in a row would have been fun xD
I actually like the campaign in D4, much better than the one in D3. That's not a very high bar to cross, though.
I'm a bit fed up with "everything and everybody is bad" narratives, too
Yea I did like but the parts beyond ||Inarius getting killed and the horadrim dude just dying to a corpse wall or something|| did irk me off can't lie.
Also I did not like the girl side kick one bit. Sorry I forgot her name lol.
But ||Mephi|| returning is kinda cool. Still not enough to convince me to buy the dlc though especially if it will be at or around full game price.
I don't even know if I will play the next season. The gameplay is so bland.
the items are confusing and not exciting. In D3 you had so many items that completely changed your build.
I uninstalled the game at the start of season 1
THAT WAS A JUICY ONE EXILE- WHAT DONT YOU HAVE NETS EXILE
Dominus VA is Best. Second is Einher and Izaro. Cassia is annoying witch and Niko is a junkie.
Life is an illusion, exile
and if by chance, for unknown reasons, a doll gets 100% cooldown recovery and 100% casting speed
Would skills spam faster? :3
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From what we know so far, they're simplifying crafting by making individual gear slots affected by fewer crafting systems, putting an emphasis on picking up dropped gear by removing scours (and maybe full rerolls, don't remember), and making swapping easier by moving links from gear to active gems
EDIT: Oops that reply was supposed to go two messages lower, sorry for the ping, though it's the same discussion so I guess that's that
didn't they say poe2 ceiling will be kept the same as poe1 while the entry floor will be lower to accommodate casual players better
Sorry who is Dominus? Also Einhar is a goat too. Also how could I forget the Witch VA. Not to mention the necromancer lady in betrayal.
Catarina. I remember now
act 3 final boss
we all know best VA is general grivicious - I Fck for god exile who do you Fck for
Nothing like Vinderi reminding you to breathe
Never really gave it much of a thought but Heist has a lot of voice acting
Yeah
I love most of it
what is VA, I listen to postcast or streamer while playing poe
voice actor
The trailer got me
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2 Nerfs back to back Path aint doing it chief
wolcen was good game, but it was huge failure ๐
Don't worry Titan Quest 2 is coming
Is Blizzard really making itemization changes to D4....
..massive itemization changes coming to Season 4
Weโll discuss how Affixes, item stats, the Codex of Power, and new in-game systems will change the way you slay and loot across both Seasonal and Eternal Realms.
I doubt they can salvage the game but lets hope for the best...
they are literally remaking the game from zero, when given years to make a good game and had to scrap everything to redo it in less than a year.
Yup, clearly the management of game was a disaster. Lets hope the changes are good... If not, at least PoE 2 is coming soon
theres too many games to play anyway
I know, just some casual sarcasm overthere
Yea me too.
define massive
+2 to radius
The cosmetic store now has p2w items that can only be accessed after battlling it out with Tomb Lord on ultra ultra ultra uber mode.
what they said was that the next patch note will be several times longer than s2 patch note, which was 33 pages iirc, so maybe we expect 100 page patch note?
good for the remaining 5 people that are interested

We will see on 20th march
20th d4, 21st poe, noice
They almost did the same thing with d3.. remember it's iteration.. and look at what you do in the game now... if blizz does one thing well, it's evolve.
Evolve... at a snails pace
That's also true.. but I don't know the code, I suspect a game that takes multiple years to develop, also takes lots of time to change
at least they craft their engine very well
I mean, I dunno what the blizz game makers don't understand... make char... get super powered... do harder and harder to compete on leader boards... or make super elite loot for slot machine style killing... it's worked since d2 ...
d4 was a complete attempt to move from that and it failed miserably.. you don't have to do idols anymore, uber lilith (who was the dev that was ridiculous enough to make a boss you have to memorize patterns in an arpg)?
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Hi
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what you dont understand is blizz doesnt care for your fun
they only want your money and continued MTX purchase
How would I know
I never look there so I'm not exactly the right person to ask.
undestud, ty
I'm conflicted whether to carry on playing LE or start a new run of stardew valley.
Guess the best action is wait for mod updates.
both
At the same time? ๐ซ
that can be said about all games..
at least they dont display it out in the open like Blizzard.
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Not all games have mtx that cost as much as if not more than the base game. ๐
Also plenty of games that do free content updates or one time only payments for certain dlc that actually has playable content.
I think that's true for the people in charge, but I don't think it is for the developers in the trenches, so to speak. I just don't think these guys had the right/clear direction. The vision wasn't there, the ambition wasn't there, at the top game director level.
and shamefully developers do not dictate how a game is handled
This is too often forgotten, it's the same in business software (which I've been doing for over a decade as a developer) we have 0 influence on pricing structures etc, most times we do not get to pick what enhancements get added to what major version (usually dictated between customer requests and our bandwidth combined with what leadership sees as important) - and even bugfixes etc get priorities assigned to them outside of the dev team based off of what's viewed as business critical (and even then the size of the customer really weighs in on this... something that is literally slowing down business processes for a smaller customer might be pushed aside for a PDF not generating properly or something aesthetic for a larger customer). Have never been in game-dev but can assume it's a lot the same.
we get some input on how many enhancements we can fit into a major release or how many bugfixes we can fix for patches in between, but ultimately what goes into that number is dictated to us, rather than picked by us.
Guess it depends on the size of the company. What you said is definitely true for mid->large. At startups though Iโve found myself having a lot more freedom (read pressure) to do what I deemed important. Often that aligns really well with the business goals already though.
difference between having and not having shareholders
Oh yea, for sure. I was one of the first US side devs for this software, back when we were < 30 employees and the Owner was actually just the guy who conceptualized the software we had way more freedom. We grew to a point though where that was almost chaotic. Eventually we got bought out by a much larger company and while the chaos was less, our control on what we worked on was also less and less as we integrated over the next few years. I'm used to it now, and kind of enjoy just having a project manager who moves things around the board. @copper pawn we're not publicly traded, but our customers pay 120k->350k a year for the software so the larger ones could probably be viewed as our shareholders in that sense.
back when we were <30 employees we also only had like 10-15 customers in the US. Now it's closer to 50 or so customers globally all varying in size. The smaller sized customers are the one who pay the lower cost for the software, larger pays more (it's a sliding scale based off of how many deals they close, so they make more money, we make more money etc lol). I don't know the specifics at this point, haven't seen what the contracts look like now. More customers require more control though, we had this terrible habit when we were the smaller team to have the customers on their own custom branches, so we'd have to fix something 8 or 9 times and try to back port it or refactor it based off of their custom coding etc. Now we have EOL policiies etc. I wanted to be a game dev in college, was the whole reason I went for Comp Science in the first place (didn't have dedicated game dev schools back then like full sail or w/e) - but the more I see how game devs are treated the happier I am with being in the business sector. Plus it pays more for the most part >.<
Ok I managed to beat Lagon on empowered second try. I think he is the hardest boss I've encountered so far in the game but I'll see with the rest of the empowered monos.
Finally thought to buy a humidifier for my room. It measures 27. Ideal is 40-60, lol. No wonder I always wake up drained.
That might explain a thing or two
I don't even know my room humidity, but I'm living on a water cooling fan to save myself from the heat (room too big to install a cheap aircon)
so I assume my room humidity is not too bad, maybe even a bit high, wonder if the combo water cooling fan + dehunidifier work together well
Damn biiig poe update imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJKMUkJjoQQ
that the next league announcement? will click it in a sec lol, trying not to lose my place in this pod
No just a qol
League announcement will be on 21st
ahh yea, saw someone's video talking about them yesterday, like the put all of a currency in the window by holding ctrl+shift rerolling socket colors automatically without having to click click click etc, think it was a ziz vid
Didn't they take away the ability to use skills on left click? Or am I mistaken
no clue, but they might as well... first thing I do on every character is unbind that and make it move only
Well on my necro I would use that ability which summons your minions to you or bone armour or something
OH, thought you meant POE lol... yea you can only change it between the different move / interact options now. like move, move or break interactable, move or basic attack
I did mean PoE though lol
oh, well then... in affliction you still could put skills on it if you wanted to, not sure if they changed it since about 1.5 months into that, I stopped playing about then, been like 6 weeks since I played I think?
Apparently they made the change for the upcoming league
damn, not sure how I feel about that. I hate changes that take away player agency like that.
Might be something to do with using the 2 new gems. Maybe they disable left click if we use them.
yea, could be. dude for the longest time I didn't know you could put any color skill gem in white slots... been a while since that, but I think back to how dumb I was in POE for the longest time lol
I'm still dumb and that won't change for a loooong time
well at least we got POE2 in 10 - 20 months or w/e... we can start over and be big brain
really hope I've spent enough in MTX to get into the beta lol
Man I think this is a good year for gaming. LE seasons begin, grim dawn expansion soon, stardew update, terraria update (hopefully this year) and possibly poe 2 beta (probably only to streamers/top players I guess)
Grim Dawn is such a resident sleeper, I'm also psyched for Dragon's Dogma 2
Damn gd is pretty much my fav arpg lol. Not interested in DD2 so can't say much for that lol
I'll have to find the video, but coulda swore they said if you've bought the $400+ supporter pack in the past or if you've spent near that amount in MTX in the last couple of leagues / leading up to beta release that you'd get invited.
Ha I've bought like 20 stash tabs, multiple cosmetics (most of them are trash). So I wonder if I'll get in lol
Yea, going through my transaction history and I need to stop because it's giving me depression lol. I bought the 200$ supporter pack and a lot of other stuff here and there
I've spent almost ยฃ400 bruh
I knew a guy who spent over 20k on a f20 mmorpg in like... 3-4 years
I spent a decent amount on mmos. Maybe 1-2k on the mmos I played (2 of them shut down).
But thankfully that's not a problem any more as I no longer play mmos.
Yeaa I stopped playing them when I realized I spent too much time on them and it was leading to unhealthy habits
I stopped because I dislike games that have no end to story. I'm ok with endgame content like in PoE (the true story some might say) but I pretty much dislike a story/campaign that keeps on evolving and you end up doing uber dungeons or something.
And then after the uber dungeons have been cleared you get uber uber dungeons in like 6months
too bad dd2 seems to have many char to handle at the same time, I kinda hate playing games where you have to manage the whole team like that, I just want to take care of a single char like how a proper rpg should be, like skyrim or witcher
You don't need to run with multiple pawns
You can even run solo like you could in the original
Is it a lot harder? absolutely
Though I guess it depends how the encounters are in dd2
Not that I can get it this month anyway
I never played the original so I pretty much don't know anything nor care about the sequel.
your pawns are just meatshield or extra dps
I never accept to play a game in a suboptimal way just to fit my style
if the optimal way is to have pawns, it's not a game I'll play tho
the pawns are pretty much AI-driven and you don't have to do much as far as managing them beyond picking ones that compliment your profession. they are sort of like the palico in Monster Hunter (a little more control than that, but overall you don't have to micro them or w/e)
and also about friends who have spent crazy $$ on games, got a buddy who has spent over 15k on his rocket league account and 10k on his summoner war mobile account lol
not for me, but not my business how he spends his $ lol.
True but it IS technically people like him and to a lesser extent (maybe?) even me that keep scammy games like Diablo Immoral alive.
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new anime called "Sandlands" just came out , feels DBZ-like from the animations
Well it had the same author so that kinda makes sense
RIP ๐ฆ
ooooh ...
depending on your standpoint, from mobile player pov, diablo I is pretty mild in terms of p2w
I was wondering when Diablo 1 got mobile port and how is it p2w
then realized oh
I don't like roman numbers and almost never use it unless have to
compared to roman letters which are so popular, roman numbers look like a big joke
well the last 2 before the current one were straight up nerfs- so they are just announcing change teasers
The nerfs a feature
then suddenly tomorrow they announce that they will buff ssf drop rate by 5x, but disable ssf convert to trade league, how wishful can I be
very- considering DD2 is releasing among many of the fun games we currently have available the first 4 days where i will play has to be top notch or else i am taking my toys and leaving for 3 months
I'm not planning to play regardless if it's good or bad. I'm gunna be either farming stuff in LE or farming in Stardew valley
new league in 9 days or something, so...
9 days it will release on 29th i took 28th and 29th off and i had the next 2 days off so i have a 4 day off at the end of the month
I will be gaming
UK? Oh nvm Friday here is a good friday so I don't have to book Friday off lol
Skipping league for dd2 poggy
Turkey - we do not have something called a good friday- but we generally steal the discounts related to those- we do not celebrate halloween but we have halloween sales everywhere- that sort of deal
Hmm I see
you could celebrate halloween urself froxy
D4 items will now have one less affix ๐
less affixes to compare, so can't say for sure whether it's good or bad
and the codex upgrade is massive
tempering and mastercrafting hmm
lol, tempering is a copy of LE crafting, kinda cool copy
lol, can add 2 more affixes, so 5 affixes in total, start to feel the powercreep there
holy fuq, demo game just crashed
just dont tell EHG they copied their Homework ^^
even exalted affixes are copied omegalul
ICANT
thank god, eff you barb
Bruh what did barb do to you ๐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5S6nMyzW98 they finally have a teaser out, whoo... been following these bros for a good number of years
Advise any movie to watch before sleep please )
Mortal kombat (the classic) movie
National Geographic
any class too op compared to the rest in an arpg kinda deserves such a nuke
isn't that too obvious, some classic horror movie will help you sleep better
Not gonna lie, Diabloโs itemization update seems like a copied homework from Last Epoch, and Iโm down with it.
LE influencing the genre even more. Hell yeah.
the tempering system is kinda LE crafting in reverse, LE crafting is deterministic affix with random amount of times you can slam the affix, d4 is opposite, semi random affix from a pool, deterministic times to craft
also, I didn't catch it in the stream yesterday, but you can now zoom out further, and unique items (except uber) can be traded now
babe wake up, new armored core reprise album dropped
D4 changes look greatโฆ definitely going to be playing season 4
I've never even seen an uber unique in D4. I only saw one regular unique. I'm not even sure how to tell the difference between the two.
D4 patch notes... kinda https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d4/t/diablo-4-season-4-quick-and-dirty-notes/154852
Lol reading D4 notes and grs are back lol
For some, that's a huge boon.
Yea it's what they should have had from the start instead of some stupid nm dungeons or world boss no one cares for
nmd is fine, it's the way they implement it that's bad
should just keep killing stuff to fill up progression bar then boss appears, that's fine
dungeon objectives are universally hated
world boss is honestly more suitable for mmo than arpg
Your second line is literally what rifts are lol
The nms were an extra initially where you had to run/mount to them. Now you can just teleport so buying that 65$ mount is no longer worth as much lol.
yeah that's what I mean, basically a rift, but only 1 floor unlike d3 rifts
like, who even run d3 rift nowadays, they have the new place to farm starting s29, is that enmity of something?
heck, if enmity portal in d3 is implemented in d4, that will be massive
make open world contents more relevant, basically farm helltide for mats, and enmity portal appears, go in and farm for even more mats
oh they buffed minions to inherit 100% of player's stats?
at least d4 has a proper item chase now, most likely the tempering mods with 3 slams of mastercrafting
D3 rifts are great, but the loot 90% sucks. Except for grift
Test, nice hopefully next month going to be 30 second slowdown
Also hopefully reactions will be back too lol
Indeed. People would freak out like a child when there's server outage and bugfix. Relax, it just a game, unless you're in a meeting and your microsoft 365 crash then it's a problem.
Oh I'd be enjoying the latter a heck of a lot more loool
I've been there. And I'm the one who was holding the linus tech tips screwdriver to screw them idiots off ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
They were for a while
And ppl instantly abused it
I'm not surprised but with things being calmer I imagine it should be a little better now
Possibly
But it was like... a week or week and half ago
And they got disabled again within a day
Oh lol
Yeaaa...
Kids will abuse anything what we gave 'em
Pretty sure not all those reactors were kids though
They're still a kid mentally. ๐
Holy strongboxes will appear on minimaps? Can we also do the same for harvest? o.o
Also in that same video I watched the divs stacked to 16 I think. So my guess is divs will go upto 20 max now.
Damn it not a qol I want devs. My AG will still die... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksJkJ-6mPow
after today hopefully I will know what to play for next league
Been waiting to see the patch notes since the teaser, cant wait
Harvest appears on the minimap though
Oh sorry I meant on the main map and even from far away. I guess strongboxes will work just the same as harvest then with this change. Damn
these are all nice and good but i would rather have instant skills on LMB back and not spend a socket for it
Strongboxes appering on the map should have been a thing with the release of Strongboxes
they were introduced in 2014- unironically a 10 year late QOL change 
Worst change is DD when A) I can't see anyway most of the time with the packs of mobs, skills and other stuff happening. I can't lower my own (and ally including minions/totems) skill visibility so that doesn't help much. And B) My AG will still die because it's dumb ah and loves to die.
Yeah DD change isn't gonna do a whole lot, the monster life and player life discrepancy is just kinda too big for DD to play well ever
I think the reaction to left click thing is hilarious, don't mean you Froxy, either way I wonder if you'll be able to link multiple gems to it
I'm in a space where I'm feel comfortable hopping back between LE and Grim Dawn.
I can't lie. Even though I love gd and it's my fav arpg but I can't play till the expansion is out.
you can but the cost and the fact that now i have to spend 2 sockets to automate it- instead of bringing controllers to our level and adding in autocast to them they choose the lazy way out and nerfed their biggest playerbase
any build having 2 or more skills that you always use on cooldown?
i guess there is blessing aura's
@waxen sonnet ๐ค
What do you want
you guys listen to FBG Duck?
still on that last epoch grind boro?
Too be honest? 10 years is too much for an expansion to wait though, they had like 3 DLCs right?
No make it 1 year. I stopped playing about a year and a half ago
If we don't count the cosmetic dlcs and crucible then no they've had 2 dlcs (I prefer to call them expansions lol). And the last expansion was about 5 years ago.
Isn't the game itself only around 8 years old? Where did 10 years come from?
I'm now super stoked for suicide squad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbspMsqQ8wE
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the gameplay looks 10/10, everything else is a solid 2
borderlands + sunset overdrive gameplay is a great formula, shame the story and everything else looks phoned in
Agreed. But also too. many. guns.
Lol didn't think it was real. Thought it was cgi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpExNYMxALE
I bought the game on November 2014. on the final phase of the early access
sh!T, poe2 beta is delayed till late 2024
thats good
heard TS deadeye is massively nerfed
doenst matter there is many skills
No
Wtf men why not
upcoming league changes so many things it overwhelms my pea sized brain
can we call this patch 4.0 instead of 3.24
meanwhile, DD2 went from 100% steam rating to 34% in a few hours, wow
can only hope more devs delay games instead of releasing when the performance is so bad
Like cp2077 ๐
At least a delayed game is a good game though.
wonder what kind of trans gem ice shot gets, seems alluring
4.0 is poe2
Well poe2 is a separate game now
So not quite
I'm aware
Camp cooking cutscenes in dd2 is IRL
So it's not like CSGO to CS2/
One thing d4 has done better than poe is giving people the option to zoom out more. Well when it comes out ofc.
may 14, that's 1.5 months to enjoy new league
My CPU is giga bottlenecking in DD2
Fane, any news for Grim Dawn 2? I think they overhauled tons of UI and I get very unfamiliar with
I care not about d4 but was just pointing it out.
@indigo shadow there was a recent update for grim dawn that made quite some changes. I recommend checking their forum for that to see the patch notes
GD2 I expect no less than 5 years away tbh
Yeah, the Update Fouled up my mind badly. ๐
As for GD2? They don't need an update because Titan Quest 2 is coming.
Not the same company and I don't care for tq
I nuked my mana bad on LE ๐
Yeah, but TQ is the main inspiration for GD. GD was the spiritual successor for TQ, as POE was the spirituall successor for Diablo 2.
jiki
to be fair I prefer TQ theme to GD theme
can't wait for TQ2 to innovate this subgenre of arpg further
man, tornado will definitely be on my watchlist for league starter
Hello guys, the spell healing shield of ring of shield can heal me?
which game?
Lol I thought my headphones broke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TuUrE1UAHs
PoE 2 has mounts too. Not sure if good or bad but we'll see
poe2 had mounts huh, damn i didnt know, apparently its a Ranger Skill slot thing
Yea saw Darths "review" of poe2
Unless the mount is a temporary skill like in D3 with the crusader
Well that would probably make more sense but I imagine other classes might have such a skill too.
Diablo 4 of exile looks great
Damn some of the mods I used for stardew valley haven't been updated or have just been abandoned
cant wait to use the tribal era AR 15 to fell my foes 10/10 
He's a good learning experience IMO.
lagon is necessary, every game has a tough midgame boss that forces you to git gud
Normal lagon is easy I meant mono lagon
the waves are more annoying than actual lagon attacks
Yep and I'd prefer to simply skip out the second stage of lagon fight as it's a pointless time waste. For monos I mean.

I'm hyped for PoE2 bosses resetting health on death like LE or every other game ones do tbh
Resetting health on death on one hit kill boss is time to time annoying but yes.
I'm all for that unless they one shot ya
let just think of you're doing a solo raid on W0W.
Does anyone here play text based browser games? I have been playing hobowars since 7th grade myself. Took a long break but I'm finally getting back into it.
Check it out if you're looking for something to fill a little time with!
oops your D4 dodge roll didnt work- now do this 9 year boss all over again 
I'm not even gonna bother
I'm okay with boss' health reset after you die though. it's really "MMO Raid Like" style. Makes you change your strategy or use different approach how to deal with it.
Boooo gimme sorceror not stupid ranger... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GtPDFbAE5A
Ranger sucks baaaaaaad
@junior oyster did GD's devs would spam out Green and Blue items?
I don't think so but I think they said something like less loot but better qual which is something I hope poe2 does too...
Yeah, the loot is way better, and I'm not even outside of Act 1
I'm waiting on the expansion otherwise I feel like it's kinda pointless to play rn lol
Minecraft Dungeons then? they have seasons content. ๐
Playing LE atm and soon to play SV. Just waiting on my mods to be updated although some may never get updated sadly...
Going to play Contra: Operation Galuga.
https://youtu.be/g9ZuJblZYY4?si=FVFvKbkJX-S6DqKA
There are bots already running:/
Loll
Ok I'm done with le for now and will be playing stardew valley. Got most of my mods sorted and unfortunately some aren't updated but it's still good enough.
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Last Epoch or WoW Vanilla? ๐ค
need a new game to play, what's addictive out there?
I got a little bored and waiting for PoE league now (and then next LE cycle ofc, might even come back to this one later)
Playing OSRS and Stellaris in the meanwhile, and some friends wanted to play modded MC
i got lost in dd2 and forgot about discord
Thanks to Fane, I got addicted on GD instead. thanks Fane. >__> ๐
Fane, the game drops like end level recipe equipment on Act 2. WTF? ๐
new 1.6 stardew update
ah so youre one of the lucky few it works for
Yep just been playing it again! Got most of my mods working and a few don't work but it's ok. With or without 1.6 the game is still plenty fun.
wat is GD
Grim Dawn.
oh ok
I kinda doubt it. What did you drop?
just realized whenever the previous character got their blueprint from, it forwarded to new characters.
Yep it's shared account wise but not between sc/hc
anione know how to turn down special effect>
this one looks interesting, good reviews. Single player right? endgame value? ๐
I was looking at GD as well, graphics seem kinda dated though lol.
its single player or multiplayer. new update raised it from 4 player to 8 player. the end game is mostly just collecting and unlocking everything tbh. unless youre deep into the farm decoration/optimization or friendship stuff with the npcs. it also has a huge modding scene
ya i looked it up. thanks. Might try it out heh. Got a 2 hr refund window from steam anyway.
its totally worth the money tbh. its aaa quality by some dude in his basement.
granted its obviously not for everyone, and it does get a bit grindy at times especially if you dont know wtf youre doing
Play your first playthrough without mods and then subsequent playthroughs use mods. You'll thank me ๐
Im trying to complete the monoliths on a new character again to unlock corrupt, os it faster to skip tge enemies and knock out objectives or to kill all enemies for stability
You can skip campaign if you got keys for endgame dungeons iirc
Me re-watching Yu-Yu-Hakusho after a loooong time and the first episode is ๐ฅน
refunded stardew, not for me. lol. too slow.
Aww
It gets better later but I understand. You could maybe speed up the game using mods. Oh well it's not for everyone >:
Best poe change ever. About damn time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKBsafCJoMo
20 years late- it is impressive they have trascanded the actual lifespan of the game and added a feature that should have been in ARPG's 20 years ago 
Now I can press T or L to go town. Yay ๐
Until items drop identified that game is dead to me
I like ID'ing uniques but yea can do without too
its actually even worse now. corrupted items will now drop unidentified
this is a buff
I hope you are lying lol
nope, its in the patch notes. "Scrolls of Wisdom can now be used on items that are Corrupted. As a result of this, most items that previously dropped identified now drop unidentified."
GGG hates the players
first time?
No, I haven't played more than 1 season in the last 3 years
Damn they tryna raise the value of scrolls by double??? Lol
I kinda quit when they nerfed Harvest in like 3.16 or whatever, which also nerfed gg juiced maps and fracture farming, the 3 top end ecosystems that fed each other and kept the market alive
The game peaked in Harvest, been downhill ever since
Ritual league was beast, but not cos of Ritual but cos it was the return of Harvest in a better form. 3.13 so good even for Standard players
I'm making too much progress in GD and I'm technically indestructable. ๐ back to Last Epoch to hate myself again.
Anyone here getting their VRAM hit 8GB usage?
Yea normal/vet can be a little easy. :)
This won't happen, as items generate rolls when they're identified instead of when dropped. Making everything drop identified would negatively impact the servers. I assume it's the reason behind the needing to id corrupted items change
Yeah that's what I think too, and items that drop duplicated unid'd (Duplicated Heist chests with Vinderi) could be explained with seeded random
But honestly I don't care about id'd items dropping enough to make or break the game, what sucks to me is that most items just aren't really exciting to id - recombinators were the only mechanic in years to have changed that, but they haven't come back yet ๐
best league ever i am so giga hyped to blast
just tried grim dawn. Super old UI and graphics lol
I too initially hated the UI/graphics but overtime I came to love it.
But yea I know some people would rather have D4 like graphics and won't be able to stand graphics from older games.
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They have like 3 button panel for health potion, mana potion, and dodge now.
Yep. hp/mana pots are like D3 pots now so you never have to pick them up any more (and they don't drop either)
I hope the storyline ends on Level 30 for LE. ๐
If you mean campaign it ends roughly around area level 55 I think?
I usually end it at 58, which is convenient, cause that's where monos start. ๐
Just start monos at 35 ๐
I need another ARPG isometric games. POE is not an options. I've dive into it last season and Wish I could get my time back. ๐ญ
Other than Slormancer I can't help you. I guess you could try D3, D4 and TQ?
If you only played poe for a few hours I feel like you are missing out.
I saw some leveling guides saying to just skip the story entirely and do monos at 15. "Yes, you will die a lot." No ish, you think so? ๐
PoE is definitely a game that takes a long time to really get a feel for. It took me just over 50 hours to complete the campaign and get to the maps, but by that point, I didn't enjoy the game anymore. I found it to be far too frustrating. I was having too much of an issue killing things, but the most important thing about that game is your first character is going to be really bad.
Fair enough. I couldn't get past the first half of act 1 when I first played poe lol. Was the same with grim dawn
I enjoyed it up until around act 6 or 7? Maybe? I was playing a Templar and wanted to go for a melee centric build. Around that point in the acts, I would just get dumptruck'd if I let anything get in my face, so I had to run around and kill things with fire brand. I hated playing like that, cause you're essentially just playing like a caster, but it got the job done. I feel like had I just put more work into resists and armor, I could have kept my melee style. That is definitely a game that takes a lot of patience and understanding. I think if you dislike LE, PoE would just be way worse, unless you're willing to put a lot of work into "getting" it.
Ya know?
I heard melee sucks in poe unless it's ranged melee like cyclone. With exception to maybe certain builds probably.
15 lol they must have some decent twink gear
Yeah this was like how to bypass the story on alts, so I guess they expect you to be kitted out in a bunch of low level uniques. But both videos I watched about this said that you're going to end up dying several times on each echo, but that you can still get decent experience. I dunno. I don't LIKE dying. I'm never in that much of a rush to level, lol.
I do think having normal monos scale to your level, on subsoquent playthroughs, (after you unlock empowered ones on your first playthrough) would be a nice way to bypass the story, to make leveling alts feel a little smoother. It's just, how do you then deal with unlocking passives and idols? Eh. I get hung up on that part.
At least for Templar, it felt quite satisfying for the first few acts, because I had like crazy attack speed and self heals, but yeah, towards the end, I just got one shot by almost anything near me. lol
I think you are supposed to do the endgame dungeons for skipping campaign and getting levels. Monos might still be good but it's the dungeons that let you skip campaign.
Yeah that's one way to do it. You get some chonky experience in almost any dungeon. I dunno if you can get the passives and idol slots unlocked from dungeons though. I do like the cache rewards from Arbor and the vendor from Bastion is nice.
Pretty sure that is the way. I don't think monos give all that.
@modern maple video shoutout too and livestream
Yeah I don't like dying
But doing echos and rushing the xp book rewards is crazy fast xp
The last few chars I did the dungeon skip. Get to act 5, skip to 9 and do monos
Just for me, personally, I like to go as slow as I possibly can, because once I feel like I've progressed enough, I get bored and quit almost any game. ๐ญ
Interesting. Always baffled me why PoE has stuck to item identification for so long. Hope this is something that's addressed in PoE 2.
Think of how many trash blues and rares are dropped that you filter out. They'd all have to be rolled if they dropped identified
Mhm, hence why I said PoE 2. I've seen the kind of loot that drops without a filter during red maps in the past and it was ridiculous.
Pretty sure from what we saw from the streamers that played the alpha of Poe 2, they still had to identify items
I'm also pretty sure there will be plenty of trash loot dropping to make my pc freeze for a few seconds when I accidentally hit alt.
Fane, I just discovered Grimtools. this going to be bad for me. ๐
Uhuh. Same guy that made Lastepochtools :)
Wait, LE isn't a randomizer?
What do you mean?
LE's Map isn't a randomizers right?
The only thing kinda random in terms of maps is monos I think and even then the randomness is your starting location.
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Wow, we had spam?
It happens. What you don't realize at first is how quick the mods delete stuff. Someone had posted spam after one of my messages yesterday, someone tagged a mod, the mod deleted it, but the person didn't delete the mod tag. So all I saw was my message and someone tagging a mod. I was like, "Oh crap, what did I do wrong?" ๐
I could go for act 4 in GD, but LE time baby
This is why I always add a comment like 'spam!' after pinging the mods
I've seen some people edit the post to say like (Edit: Thanks mods!) or w/e. ๐
Also, to answer this question, the monos feel pretty random. It might be the same map often, but I swear it has a different configuration each time, or at least has randomized mobs. Maybe I haven't done enough to notice more repetition, but I feel like, if they aren't already randomized, they should be.
HAH, was concern on randomized map than mobs.
but rando mobs is great though, which Grim Dawn lack time to time
Yeah like I said, I haven't done many monos, so I don't notice the same map too often. I'd say the one I got the most is the pristine gardens one. I think that's what it's called. But even that map feels different each time. The assets are always the same, but I haven't noticed that it's always the exact same layout. I'll have to pay more attention to that.
Shattered realm begs to differ >:
Other than that of course. I was just talking about the standard world.
LE standard world doesn't have randomised mobs iirc. As you go through the campaign you fight the same enemies per toon.
This is true. The story maps are always the same each time.
And similar to grim dawn you have certain things you can interact with like the big chests, shrines (In GD it's for passive skill points/loot) and ofc the exiled mage.
You know that LE should have like locked chest like in D4, and in GD's dynamite chest?
Don't sleep on the Mages either man. I was ignoring them for the last few weeks, cause they're such a pain to kill, then I learned about sealing affixes on their gear and apparently, you can also use the gear to slam uniques. I did NOT know that.
I think with that mechanic, people would be excited over better loots on a specific chests.
Much as I like gd I am not a fan of locked chests. Especially considering dynamite isn't exactly cheap to get early on.
In D4, the chests you have to buy keys for...I feel dumb for not remembering the name of them, I stopped even caring about those after a while. They never drop anything decent, lol. The random chests in LE though, I've gotten a few exalteds from. ๐
Yea and tbf even in grim dawn you can get fairly decent items from locked chests. I hate that they made a simple mechanic from D2 become a complicated mechanic in D4.
I have a feeling they might rid of this just like the current gear system (somedayTM) 
Yeah, it just need LE to drop something meaningful, like the corrupt mage boss.
I know that golden Boss in LE they will drop a rare item than epic. even though I don't know why the group elite mobs couldn't drop a good dime in the game. ๐ ๐
NMS.
Mmm, meatlovers peesha. Quite the chonky spread of toppings and cheese on this bad boi. I might have to go get a couple more slices. ๐
Speaking of meat: https://ibb.co/dGR3SQG This one really cracked me up.
Damn I wish we could see gifs and links properly without having to click on the links to see what they are about...
Some channels you can, but not in this one for some reason. ๐ค
Can I farm 40% EXP Echo's, die at the end, and just restart it and keep getting the bonus EXP for quicker levels? Thanks for the help.
It's been many years since he did a game according to wiki, but we can hope for something nice ๐
PC Game Pass now have Diablo 4. They're getting desperate.
That's a really, really, really good free game tbf lmao
Yeah nah
Good campaign, easy to play as a casual. It is objectively an excellent free game, to me
Right. I'm not gonna bother writing any more
I'd rather they add D3. D4 sucks (currently).
I'm kinda waiting on this now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLd_7AFi1S4
My cat is so fed up with me. I'll just plop down next to her on my bed and poke her belly and she'll just be like... ๐
๐ฑ๐ boop boop
You didnt even start ๐ญ I'm not a d4 fan but you're shilled if you think that's not a good casual experience for the average battlepass user
Look mate
I don't agree with the whole battlepass system in the first place
The gameplay is terrible
the story is awful
It's good game for "dads with 12 kids, 4 jobs, 15minutes of free time a week"
What ARPG story are you comparing it to though? The gameplay loop is fine, the game is just broken. But that doesn't matter to casual players because they dont reach endgame
oh so now it's no longer a really really good game but a broken game
Story while not the best, most certainly isn't awful. Gameplay is fine too but it's let down by the itemisation and skills. Feels like any other arpg in that regard.
You should mentioned endgame. That is what sucks the most right now.
It's a really, really good free game for people who use xbox gamepass. Context is key, I can't enjoy d4 in its current state myself but that doesn't mean its not an awesome offering for gamepass
It might become actually good game after some years
Still think the story and casual playthrough to the end of campaign is pretty good if its free
Friend of mine got it for free
and still regrets playing it
just sounds like hivemind cope to me, half of the people who hate d4 havent even played it lmao. It's pretty broken in its current state but people act like it'll decrease your lifespan by looking at it
hurr hivemind...
he put in 150hours in the game
sure he didn't play it
150 hours for a free game, "regret" is a strong word here lmao
He tried really hard to like it.
because people kept on telling him that "it gets better"
so he tried a lot of different setups
I enjoyed D4, but this season sucks
Havent touched any of the seasons since s1
Also the devs had previously stated they've no idea what they're doing
and whole "oh yea we can't put in more stash tabs for players because when you're in town and see other players it loads the contents of their stash tabs"
yeah everyone knows they dont know what they're doing, no ones trying to convince you its a good game for people like us who actually want resistances to work properly and damage scaling to be good etc, it's good for the casuals though
did you try, had my fun in s3
D4? Yea. D3 I have about 2k hours in wizard.
no i meant the current season or even anything after release. It got a lot better and imo is pretty alright at ~40โฌ or even "free" on gamepass
D3 had a clear ending on what we should do. but for D4? the ending is fill with smoke and shades
d3 was fun but its also way too easy as a game, i guess thats part of the power fantasy though
The end game is something though.
T15 just trying to survive was like a good survival to the fittest
You know what? they should've make Diablo 3 for free instead of immortal.
I love joining a server from Server Share. Saying Hi then getting banned.. like why post on there?
Dunno why people still hating on D4 after S4 announcement, just look at the S4 patch notes... Blizzard making MAJOR changes. Many will return for S4 guaranteed.
See https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/24078324/the-diablo-iv-season-4-ptr-what-you-need-to-know
If you still have issues, report them during PTR which opens on April 2nd.
How did this become a d4 season 4 promotion channel
yeah, people would clearly rather me talk about my caving adventures, or spam pics of muh animals ๐
I mean, it is off-topic discussion. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I should probably plan my PoE league starter soon and also prepare food for a few days 
No idea what to play though
@rapid ravine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCtChLHjBqE
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A question that Blizzard even couldn't answer: Is Leia's spirit still lingers in Sanctuary?
For those who complain about talking D4 in LE offtopic, we have our own preference and it's a subjective subject but, let's be open about this.
i wanna hope for d4 but they dropped that ball from orbit
PoE league is today?
I think so. DM is gonna do a streamathon and I'm kinda tempted to pop in and see what he's up to.
I'm sure it has because my game just got a 5gb update lol.
2h 19m until PoE Season start
If you're interested, there's a countdown timer on this site. ๐
Doesn't he have to stream till he kills uber shaper?
Like to grind LE? Yeah me either! j/k (I actually like it a lot) Anyway, I have a great grinding playlist on spotify, like over 1100 songs of OST and gaming composers for you to get 4lp bee keepers gloves and its right here : https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6Pd0i6Bxfw1V0OodxfYvic?si=a1fedd3c11d04138
There's multiple stipulations. It sounds like it's gonna be pretty fun to watch.
NGL, from what I've read of upcoming D4 S4 changes they sound really good and a step in the right direction.
Yea I feel the same. But it's bliz so I wouldn't be surprised if they mess it up lol
Adding Ray Tracing is a good news too.
I died many times doing world boss while having ray tracing, I get like 10-15 FPS when zoom out. and my cards is RX 6600.
Question what extends duration of were bear transformation ?
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Hello! where can I ask a question about cosmetic items and Twitch drops?
Kinda glad I didn't buy this game lol https://store.steampowered.com/app/1385380/Across_the_Obelisk/
@buoyant bough
Having lower drop rates is common sense when AH is involved. You obviously don't want everyone to get drops easily to just be mass posted on AH and drop the prices across the board.
But you were in no way forced to use the AH/RMAH just to beat D3. Sure, people did flip AH back then but every item that entered AH had to be found so clearly people were finding items. Plenty of players beat the entire game without buying a single thing on AH.
When they increased drop rates, it literally destroyed the item hunt for many as it quite literally rained legendaries. I'm all about the extremely rare drop chances for good items. Main reason I play ARPG's ๐
looks pretty fun to me?
"Publisher: Paradox Interactive, Paradox Arc" ahhh
i'll prolly never buy anything Paradox again after what they did with Hairbrained Schemes Studio
makes me hope you EHG folks manage to stay self-publishing ๐
Yep this is the reason otherwise the game looks pretty fun.
shame too, since it's on-sale and i do love me some deck-building rogue-lites - and co-op to boot
Hellcard is als on-sale btw @junior oyster, which ticks all of the same boxes: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1201540/HELLCARD/
Last episode of Solo leveling was so fire
idk I've been playing Stellaris from Paradox, and I'll continue having fun ๐ Though that's a self developed game, got no clue how they are when it comes to them as just a publisher
Don't care much for coop (no friends lol) but it had me intrigued
Paradox are one of the best developers for good strategi games tho, and all of the crew i meet in Stockholm have been lovely people so dont take your anger out on the whole company for the higher ups mistakes ^^
Ck, stallaris, eu4, vic โก
i'm referring to the publisher side, not the devs. but fair point about the whole company thing
never said their games weren't great. i have a good few hundred hours in Stellaris, love it
I see, yeah I know pretty much nothing about them as publishers for other devs, which is what's relevant here
Read some of the negative reviews and it seems they're really insistent on pushing their launcher and pricing policy where it doesn't fit which, yeah, really sucks
Stellaris launcher works to also manage mods and those "ads" end up being release news there so I never really questioned the launcher, but yeah in general I'm growing tired of launchers for launchers too
anyone excited about the candidates tournament starting in like 4 days
I tried to play PoE today, and everything felt so clunky.
That's every league 
No this time the league mechanic is clunky even for PoE
First thing you'll notice is buttons on clickable zone transitions, you need to click the button to tweak the mechanic or it'll be random - which can include 200% more max hp on a bunch of rares or 75% phys as extra ele, in campaign
After a while you'll notice you don't actually get that option at all when using a waypoint or in any zones accessed in nonconventional ways like NPCs
Halfway through the campaign your man will inform you that the morgue is really tiny and fills up long before you figured out what crafts will actually have a use
I'm still having fun and 2/3 of these will be irrelevant after campaign but man
Also i found myself looking for autosort inventory and send orbs to stash button ๐
Where is circle of fortune guild located
having been thru last league mechanics, this league mechanics is heaven, no more wasting time in a strange zone
but the corpse crafting imo is underwhelming, or maybe I'm not there yet to get really powerful corpses
Almost seems like an April fools joke but I guess it's true.
In an observatory.
I'd rather they sold my data
Why do one when they can do both! ๐ค
what better way to drive people back to irc
Hey. Anyone know their ways around computers? I'm thinking about trading my PC for a MacBook.
My PC:
Intel i7-10700F, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 6GB, 16 GB RAM, 500GB SSD
Macbook:
Macbook Air m1 8GB, 256GB
I'm going to use it mostly for work. Some lightweight graphic design in Canva, Photoshop, LightRoom and some light videoediting for social media.
Would this trade be worth it?
(Mac is 2yrs old)
p diddy killed 2pac and biggy btw
"you are useing adblock and this video cannot be shown until you give us money by watching annoying ads" okay then , goodbye youtueb!
Open it in incognito/private mode. No message 
thank you king
Not sure if you were serious by that but if you were then you are welcome 
ohm, can't believe we can still taste affliction in this league
lol, d2r getting an expansion
Uhhh you sure it isn't an April fools joke?
it can be, and somehow after your reminder, I'd like to think that's more likely the case
It 100% is lol.
@solar tiger
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Don't ping devs, mods and devs can post images. Not everyone
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Lol what was that post
anyone going to d4 for s4? Thinking of trying it again, not sure.
D4 would have to make a fun skill system that lets me experiment with ability behavior to get me back. Leveling in D4 isn't fun when getting a new skill point isn't exciting enough.
yeah, LE gives you two points to spend, passive and skill (and they come at different times as well).
D4 feels like all I'm doing is spending really bland passive points, which is just not enough for me.
Big problem too is that most of the variables for a skill are like "slightly increased crit damage" or "slightly bigger projectile" lmao
if you already paid why not give it a spin, can still say nope after a bit of trying
my account was banned s1 lol. For using the exploit of moving eternal realm items to seasonal. So I'd have to buy a new battle.net account to do S4. Idk what else to play though. Currently i'm just playing HOTS. ๐
Simply put d4 is not a game for that kind of system, for people familiar with d2, that's the thing they don't want to change at all
It's like asking apple if we can tweak sh!t like we do in android, the answer is obviously no
Then leveling will always be very boring to me. But whatever, to each their own I guess.
It's fine, a certain game can only satisfy a certain amount of playerbase, no game is for everyone
D2 skill system had more going for it than D4 imo. At least in D2 I could put in more points into a skill than just 5 (not counting +skills from items).
D4 skill system makes me wish we had the D3 skill rune system instead lol.
5 or 100, it's the same thing in a sense that it only pumps up the numbers, nothing else, that's what he doesn't want
You can change d4 to giving 4 skill points per level, and max can add 20 just like d2, and it won't change much
Well I guess only LE and PoE would suit his tastes then because even grim dawn and I guess TQ are the same
Talking about poe, how's the league going for you guys
I would also accept having the D3 skill rune system back as a compromise. Never played D2 though, no desire to.
played to 75 in poe, got bored by the league so i'll continue LE for now
Absolutely terrible. So much so that I haven't even started it.
am I the only one here enjoying this league (except crafting part) so much more than previous league?
pretty sure D2 skill system is as simple as D4, maybe moreso. But I think I see what you're saying. 5 points into vitality is a noticeable gain versus putting 1 point into a skill buff in D4.
uhm, 1 point into a skill is 7-10% dps increase, which is massive
With a D3 skill rune (modified for D4), a point into a skill might do something like "Your fireball explosion has an X% chance to cast an additional fireball. Add in a unique that makes that fireball call down meteors and BAM, fun.
Yep I love that about D3. Hated it at first but at some point I just love spamming meteors.
Like 2 more hours max to grab https://store.steampowered.com/app/2881650/Content_Warning/ for free.
There's currently 200k people playing this o.O
depends on the skill really. Could also be a defense skill point you put in.
It seems to be blowing up at least with streamers
S
@radiant wing i found it in the tos
Cosmetic Points may be redeemed only for Virtual Items and can never be sold, transferred, or exchanged for โrealโ money, โrealโ goods, or โrealโ services. You agree that You will only obtain Cosmetic Points and/or Virtual Items from Eleventh Hour Games and through means provided by Eleventh Hour Games, and not from any third party unless expressly authorized.
but that doesn't answer my question, in-game service for in-game gold
Thats fine.
Hey, I was thinking of content creation / marketing ideas. Would anybody like to brainstorm about it?
What was the question?
Are you allowed to offer services (i.e. boosting etc.) In-game in exchange for in-game currency (specifically gold)?
You are not allowed advertise services in exchange for gold on here no.
And directly in-game?
I wish that Diablo Immortal would get like expansion.
"Don't you guys, upgrade your phone?"
Not there either.
@subtle python jump in here then ๐
So the speed of film is impossible to discern, I agree.. but higher fps absolutely removes motion blur from things moving on screen
@tough trail sure it doesnt but you arent getting all the info at once its coming in multiple frames staggered so that is kinda mute
the average reaction time for a person is between 0.15-0.3 seconds. does that mean we cant see more then 6.66 fps per second per your logic there
yeah we can process more, up to, on average, 60 fps, the younger you are the better you might be able to notice but past a point it becomes wasted information, people saying you can notice differences up to 10,000 fps are just so far wrong
FPS is / was increased for motion blur... that's it.
yeep
the ability to process and ability to notice a difference are 2 different things
what's the diff between processing and noticing in the end ? What's the point of noticing something if you can't process it or processing something you don't notice ?
pretty big. just because you dont notice a difference dosnt mean you cant feel effects of it. visually you dont really see a difference between 90 fps and 144. but you can still feel the difference especially in things like vr
Hello guys! Could any1 help me to download poster picture (Visit hobbiton) from twitterX ? I don't have an account https://twitter.com/alexsbooks_
Noooo first we can't capture the gym leaders (and their pokemon) and now we can't capture raid bosses t.t:
Raid Boss Pals summoned by slabs are very powerful and can not be captured. Work alongside your base Pals to take on these powerful foes.
is the update out?
I think so
Averielle I take it you like Palworld? ๐
I do, I play solo on a custom rules server though ๐ I play to relax, so while I've not adjusted catch rates or damage, I didn't want to be worrying about plummeting to my death due to stamina running out xD
Oh me too. I mean playing solo.
Also I just use cheat engine to give me faaar too high stats ๐
(Single player cheating only... I don't cheat in mp).
My char in palworld has around 20,000 weight capacity and like insane points in other departments too.
Lol, I just like building tbh, everythign else is supplementary
But you can build in any other game too. I like capturing and fighting pokemon (and humans too. Wish I could capture the 'gym' masters) lol...
Collecting Pals, especially the Boss/Dungeon ones, and exploring a new world are great too, and I do fight the gym leaders when I need to. I'm just not a min/max / breed the best pal possible type and I often feel like I'm 'playing it wrong' when I look at community posts ๐
To divert from Palworld - Anyone here play PoE before PathofBuilding existed?
Hi all, where can i find cool wallpapers of the game ?
Last Epoch Media - lots of videos, screenshots and wallpapers here!
Thank you !!!! ๐
Actually we can only see two frames per minute
Confession: I used cheats to beat Elden Ring for the first time. More fun that way.
You didn't beat the game
Good for you.
As long as you didn't go online I don't care
Oh I definitely did. I had fun too.
I would never play that kind of game online. I never liked pvp invasions.
No but I played it without pob and I sucked. I played it with pob later but I still suck.
starts humming the Fresh Prince theme
Now this is a story all about how,
My craft got flipped-turned upside down,
And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there,
I'll tell you how I wrecked my helmet using Glyph of Despair.
At Eleventh Hour Games, born and raised,
In the Unity engine is where they spent most of their days,
Chillin' out, maxin' relaxing all cool,
And all stabbedy stabbying some zombies and ghouls,
When a couple of bosses who were up to no good,
Started dropping some close to respectable loot.
I found one little helmet and my forge got scared,
It thought, "Ima bout to disappoint this girl, I'm not prepared."
I whistled for a town portal and when it appeared,
Swirly swirly swoosh, back at my stash the echo was clear.
If anything I could say that this helm was rare,
I posted a pun in General and absorbed Averielle's stare.
I pulled up with my glyphs about 7 or 8,
Yelled for the craft, "Yo homes I'm a bit afraid"
I looked at my result, I was finally there,
My T3 Stun now a T4, shouldn't have dared.
Bruh
Ok good to know we can react again. Next I hope we can react from other servers and also be able to post screenshots (not immediately but at some point in time ofc).
Baby steps Fane, baby steps ๐
I just got a massager for my chair, game changer
Consider me jealous
I did
way back in the day
I was so bad
You didn't but that's okay too, as long as you had fun
I installed D4 again just because of the graphics update. I like the idea of the companion. It's just everything else about that game still sucks. I don't think it'll ever be good enough.
Companion?
You have a little spider robot buddy this season
Diablo 4 right?
Yup
Outer Worlds is free on Epic. It's an okay game.
I played and enjoyed it a lot. That was back in 2019 ofc.
Oct 26, 2013. Been a wild decade.
Hey there friends, anyone following that Apple River case?
The what
Apples don't come from rivers, silly.
Susge
anyone seen a dragon and s cyclops fighting each other in DD2 (dragons dogma 2) just saw one on a excort mission
@void nest i played some fighting games of my generation including injustice and soul caliber back in the day, but i played this one game that was an american port of a korean game called Gem Fighter, the american version was called Rumble Fighter. it had a system where you equip a scroll for a match and it would give you a certain fighting style's combos, but it had grabs and throws and counters and stuff, so I got pretty heavy into it. tekken was the only fighting game that felt as satisfying after that one
Let me take a look
yeah, that particular scene most likely unfolded in the Ancient Battleground. I would recommend looking around that area in your game and proceeding in a northerly direction, much fun awaits you there if you havent gone that way yet!
the only tekken I've played were the first 3
Never got good at them though. Only got to play them over at a friend's place
its pretty basic as a fighting game, but there was an amazing level of counterplay between scrolls as a high level. it was one of those games where people formed de facto guilds, and had "guild wars" where we literally have to record the videos and publish them on youtube, so people wouldnt lie about losses or cheating or what have you. it was such a great source of youth entertainment for me, it was crazy.
Okay lol so I used to play a Korean side scrolling pvp/pve mmo. Called DNF /dungeon fighter
i dont think ive heard of it, or may not remember, so let me look that up too lol
Oh yeah I played a game too called GunZ like what youโre describing where weโd record games, post replays and talk crap on the forums.
oh this one seems much more like a "fighting" game. rumble fighter was more kinda arcadey style, with a fighting game inspiration, i guess i would call it now
hell yeah, i was in high school and video gaming wasnt as cool so i never talked about it with anyone, but this game was a huge part of my life for many years haha. tekken just seemed like the natural extension.
this game rumble fighter was the peak of cringe youth gaming for sure though. glad i was able to experience it lol. it got shut down by its korean studio at one point, and they granted every account like 200$ worth of the premium currency before they shut down, so people could buy stuff. then, an american company bought it, but also retained the data from the servers, so you could keep the free sht you got. which in that game, meant a lot because stuff was pricey. even back in the day. i could spent 20$ on just a fighting scroll for new moves, easily. but the american version wasn't great so i stopped after a while when my friends stopped playing as well
Ummm canโt be worse than maple story
damn, our old Fist clan videos arent even on youtube anymore. not even that old obama spoof "whatever you like" video. what a sad time
Iโm probably a bit older, but when ppl would talk about RuneScape at school instead of WoW u basically just knew their family was poor for high school like gaming social hierarchy
thats hilarious, i think that must just be an indicator of where you live, one of my friends in high school who was only of the only other gamers, but who was affluent as far as i was concerned, also played runescape like religion, still does.
I'm probably a bit older, runescape came out after I graduated ๐ญ
Okay ultima online, yes tell us about it. We want to know about EverQuest, ultima and MUD rpgs, did you sneak floppy disks with games on them into the computer class?
like none of my other friends familys owned two porsches but he was playing games like runescape, it was always funny to me. i think its just about what gets you, not reallyt about the money involved in playing it. if you want it, youll find a way to afford it or get it. he was totally complacent with ignoring his xbox i couldnt buy and play runescape. different strokes i guess
dude told me like a year ago (im 28, hes 28 as well) about how he could still scam a kid for chaos runes and sell it for actual cash and it utterly befuddled me, but a hustle is a hustle cant complain
lol gutless
I have no memories at all of anyone playing any form of multiplayer game or online game when I was in school. There were some very early ones when I was about 17-18, it just started becoming a bit of a thing in the late 90s - but not quite the school topic I suppose.
We did however when I was a teenager exchange codes, cheats and such for SNES games, and some N64 era early on. I think I didn't really start multiplayer gaming until release of Asheron's Call in 1999
lowkey thats how i feel but whatever lmao he can do what he wants
you know, the last truly single player game i remember HAVING to figure stuff out and not having a super available online resource or guide i could look up, was wind walker on gamecube lol
I make it a thing not to look stuff up now
I was always glued to game guides, magazines and whatnot... just no one around me was a big of a nerd as I was ๐ I started playing games in 1986 as a tiny wee girl
Played Octopath traveller 2 without looking stuff up mostly and Iโm glad.
I used to get Nintendo power every month, pc mag. Had a prima guide for Pokรฉmon red that I memorized every pokemon in
i remember trying to look up a solution to something, and i couldnt find the answer, andit took me days to figure it out. i didnt want to spend m,oney to buy the Prima game guide from gamestop, i wanted to win by myself! but yeah the next game that deep I played was probably Skyrim, and by that time, you could find everything by the end of the week
Looking up the solution to "The World's Hardest Puzzle" in Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrels on the SNES, waiting for the yahoo page to take 4 minutes to load an image.... yeah, we've been there ๐
hell yeah dude prima guides were the thing back in the day, they were the Fextralife of games before it existed lol. I remember I was going to get Pokemon Mystery Dungeon as a birthday gift, and I found the prima guide in my moms room when i was snooping around for my gifts, as young kids do, and man i spent a week reading and rereading it before my birthday so i could be prepped for war hahahah
things are different now but not in a bad way, just a new way, the way we find information now at least mostly leads us towards forums or places of discussion now, even though theres still sites that just divulge info without a place to gather.
and things like that should preserve. I know its not the best example, but when Dark Souls released its DLC it took almost a day for people to figure out how to trigger and access it. I miss games like that, games where it wasn't a crime for the dev to craft something so hidden that it was a joy to find. now, the articles will label it as " they hid this from you so you doulnt find it, but we did anyways" or whatever cringe clickbait they need. it was nice being in the dark back in the day, for what its worth
I got a gutless admission to make. When I was a wee lad also: I once got a pidgey and I wanted to get a pokemon red exclusive in a trade w someone that I had over to my house.
He obviously didnโt want a pidgey cuz they suck right.
But I said no, this is not pidgey, this is pidgeot (like the maxed out bird) and I only named him pidey to trick my opponents into sending the wrong guys against him -
Anyway, I didnโt do any of that and it was just a pidgey. I got ekans from him and he was crying and then went home. His my phoned my mom and tried to get me to trade it back. But I didnโt because I already evolved it into Arbok and said I didnโt have any ekans
Am I a psychopath?
actual joy of exploration, with no "FOMO" that makes you feel like a "chump" for missing out, or playing a different way.
also, thats really funny. I will share my similar story. I collected (lightly) some pokemon cards back in the day, and the ONLY rare card i ever got, was a shiny Dark Typhlosian from a 10 card pack out in santa cruz at a comic store. Pokemon silver/gold/crystal were still new, i was in like 2nd grade. I told someone i would show them my card if they traded me some worthy cards in order to even show it to them. They had 3 shiny foil cards of random gen 1 mons, im ashamed to say i dont even remember what they were. They traded all 3 to me just to see my shiny typhlosion, which I let them borrow for the day to show off. I got it back at the end of the day and went home. I left my shiny typhlosion andthe other 3 cards in my pocket of my pants...
yes, the washing machine ate them.
i have never been more disappointed in my younger self, looking back, than that. even to this day typhlosion is like top 3 starters for me lol
Omg F
yeah it was a huge L ngl. when Hisuian Typhlosion got announced i kinda lost my sht. but it is what it is haha.
The teachers would make us put our yugioh cards in our backpacks in the coat room if we were looking at our cards during class. And whenever someone got hit with the death knell, youโd put up your hand to go to the bathroom and go rifling through their backpack for about 20 seconds on the way out
you know i heard later about schools in other districts banning that sort of stuff, but luckily that never happened where I lived. although, i didnt see much of it past elementary school, so there were probably less fans in my area for that sort of thing. yu gi oh was the card game tho, nobody plays the pokemon one, and i dont remember any others from when iwas young. but i was never into yu gi oh so i missed all of that
Oh yeah, there were counter measures, you could go get a drink at the same time and watch their activity from the fountain in the class bc it overlooked the coatroom
i wished my area had more of that sort of demographic than what we have. i hated the area i grew up in lol
Everything got banned tho, bey blades, pokemon, yugioh, yoyos might have survived I canโt remember
oh damn beyblades were fire lmaoooo never saw that at school but that sht was gas
i remember having one of the ones with an electric remote to speed up the spins lmao i think it was a driger model. that sht was AWESOME. i owned several little arenas fr that
I tried taping rocks/sticks/pennies to it, but nothing seemed to be an effective upgrade
bro i bought that metal core one with the remote and it was amazing, but before that, they made that one from the antagonist from the anime show they made, it was like a 2 layer top, and when the center took a hit, it had a mechanism that collapsed and forced the central column to jump up. i forget the name, but dude that one model destroys EVERYTHING. even my metal core electric powered beyblade
Wow thatโs crazy. I wonder what the current meta looks like for high level competitive beybladr
this one had a metal core behind the top layers of the top, but the bottom had this mechanism that made it JUMP. THIS THING DESTROYED!!!
also, they made some half decent gameboy advance games lol. basically puzzle games but decently fun. no worse than spyro games on gameboy
I just can't catch a goddamn break, now can I...
A small company's head accountant contacts me, says "anydesk won't connect to network"
I ask her how old AD is, she shows me a screen photo (yikes) of AD being very dated
I throw her a link to the archive containing version 6.0.8 so she can upgrade in-place
Context: Windows 7 without AV, dated Chrome with no adblocker, trigger-happy fingers
I initiate a video call with her and see that she follows the link, naturally catches a popup ad page, gets an auto-download
Without batting an eye, she OPENS THE RAR AND RUNS THE EXE IN THERE BEFORE MY VERY EYES
Naturally, the PC starts going bananas, what with the CPU immediately peaking out and Chrome acting up accordingly
I scream "stop whatever the f you're doing, or better yet SHUT THE ENTIRE PC DOWN RIGHT F'N NOW", which she does
I contact her supervisor, tell him what happened, he delivers the entire rig to me (I live across the town from them + HEAVY parenting)
I connect the SSD from that PC to my laptop, immediately create an ATI image of the entire drive just in case, and run a "surface" AV scan...
...Glupteba, Conteban, truckload of other strains of crapware...
ALL THAT ON A HEAD FKN ACCOUNTANT'S MFN PC
F. M. L.
@desert vigil just out of curiosity, are you a cohhcarnage viewer? ๐คญ
I am not, I donโt really watch any video game content creators besides the occasional thing from Raxx for old times sake
hahah alright! thanks for humoring me
Anyone see the eclipse yet
@wild blaze someone's looking for you ๐
Holy..
Right?.. At least she lucked out in that she didn't catch any destroyware (yet)...
Probably next time she'll manage to do that
Well, it's going to be fully on her in this case.
Ooh
Apparently they're gonna show Tommy Wiseau's The Room in the movietheater over here
The movie is so bad that I'm tempted to go watch it
I've seen it, it's fun
We usually watch it once / year with friends
it's great
Oh then yeah go see it in the theater
Turns out it's only in a theater that's over 100km from me
So going to see it after work is not an option
And saturday isn't possible either bcs grandma's birthday
@subtle python less of a dig on DET, tho it'll be interesting to see how they bounce back after the loss in the playoffs. they arent used to that up there. GB i think will be considerably better, think Love showed he turning the corner end of last year, think that team is going to be way better this year.
I mean, I'm not a fan of the offseason... given our obvious needs at CB... but our offense is still elite. We make a little step forward defensively... getting more pressure with help for hutch and we should be right back.
I also think we were beating the brakes off san fran in that nfc championship game but there were so many weird bounces that it took the wind out.. i mean that ball that bounced off the helm and turned into a 50 yd catch should have been an int... things like that are just too weird
Playing with expectations is a lot harder than not. Just depends on how ya team handles it. Player wise i think ya right, on offense you all going to be fine.
TBH.. in our division, I'm more afraid of chicago than gb... I think dan is the right coach to make the guys rally around and forget about it
nah, chicago aint going to do anything. lol. they cant QB properly. definitely think Love and that playoff run gave that team some confidence, both of yall should be 10+ win teams fighting for that division title in week 18
Chicago has always been defense first, i think playing in chicago and that windy ass stadium creates the qb issues... but yes, if caleb isn't who everyone feels he is.. they won't be good.. but that offense they put in place... plus they still have a lot of draft capital
Anyway, I was shocked you guys didn't do more last year and you got better.. that owner has no pocket book issues
nah, i dont think Caleb is all what he is cracked up to be. and still might Eli up outta there on draft day
bruh, idk what happened last year. no amount of bringing people in woulda fixed that. this years start going to be big, either back to looking good and winning, or the fanbase will riot.(lyself included) i dont think getting "lucky" wins is going to cut it to start this year
We have the issue that this schedule is going to be much harder than last years... so it should really test who we are.. when AJ got hurt, you guys didn't look good at all... AJ brown deserves way more credit for being an elite receiver than people give him.
agreed
Did reddit change it's UI (again)? ๐ฆ
Yeah, new new reddit. I don't like it either but thankfully old.reddit still works
I cant remember the time a UI update felt useful or wanted. They just have to change stuff ๐คญ
Somewhat topical, but as someone with a 13 year old reddit account, hundreds of thousands of karma/both comment and link, when the 3rd party thing happened i took it as a sign of nothing good happening, so i self-deleted my profile instead of letting them turn my account into a content bot. haven't been back since.
I use reddit just to browse while at work lol.
I have an account but I never comment. Just a lurker lol.
I haven't even completed A20H other than on Ironlad loool
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2868840/Slay_the_Spire_2/
I'm hyped ah!
Nice, a really great game. What does the H stand for? Heart?
Yes
Hoop
Sheesh I've rewatched the StS2 trailer so many times now lool
apparantly i own mass effect 3 on EA launcher. is it good?
no, its absolute trash and there's a reason why ea is publishing everything on steam again.
no idea about mass effect 3 though.
i liked the third part.
The "end" is mediocre, but i like the feeling to fight a war against a Force that is build to evaporate you. It feels - for me - a bit like a race against the Time. The feeling of Dread is quite good and feels right in this Setting.
Gameplay wise a very good time! Classes feel good, Character are nice. Dialog is good. One of the Games with the Good Bioware vibes before they went downhill.
Overall a solid 8,5/10 for me.
Mass Effect 1-3 only truly reaches its peak for the player, if the player plays through all of them and uses their own save to continue in ME2 and ME3.
In that way, it's probably the best trilogy there is, if you're into this kind of gameplay and setting.
Playing ME3 without having played ME1-2 can still be fun, but you'll be ruining and taking away an experience from yourself that you can never get back. Quite an extraordinary experience.
ME1-3 are all good games on their own. But together, it becomes something truly special. A one of a kind experience I can only recommend to all gamers out there. Few games have entertained me as such while being excellent on all fronts. (For their time, at least)
That said, ME1 & 2 can certainly feel dated, especially when playing 3. But it's all the more reason to just start at ME1.
Reddit will just undelete your account and sell it to an gptbot farm that sells political garbage
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any other ARPGs to check out aside from LE, Diablo , Wolcen, Grim Dawn, PoE
Undecember?
Not necessarily games I recommend but you could try Slormancer (I liked it) and Hero Siege (I despise it)
Titan quest and my favourite, but lost and completely forgotten - Kult: Heretic Kingdoms (or Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition) (2004).
Slormancer wasn't engaging for me. Though similar graphics gaem Chronicon was a blast
I forgot about that game lol. Just looking at chronicon and I was like nope.
How was undecember vs LE? Reviews lookin like extreme p2w
Last I heard, people were saying it's less p2w now
Have you tried Torchlight Infinite?
I know people really like the 2nd Torchlight too
Infinite looks intriguing - when it was first released, looked like another p2w mobile game - I'll check it out if it got any better - same with undec
I have strange values, I reported the bug, but I would like to know if this has happened to others too. I attach the file
critical strike chance -2147483648%
spell critical strike chance -2147483648%
male crit. strike chance -2147483648%
bow strike chance -2147483648%
I wanted to share the file, but I can't attach
#๐ฌโgeneral or #1210281997591908452 would be better to ask in, I'll tag you in #๐ฌโgeneral now ๐
I really like Sacred 2
Lol cat quest 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5TQm1N8vuM&t=86s
Sth to put on your wishlist for now, EA unlocks in less than 24 hours:
No Rest for the Wicked
Regarding mods a bit if you are curious about:
Diablo 1 has a really nice mod called tchernobog, where diablo 2 has a good/a huge amount of mods out there where diablo 2 resurrected has at least 6 mods for now if not wrong.
Regarding grim dawn - there is also a nice mod called RoT i.e. Reign of Terror if I'm not wrong, it is diablo 2 inside Grim dawn, I think there are even skills and classes from grim dawn too in it, and the mod also has diablo 1 in it as act 6 if I remember correctly.
Already mentioned, but Titan quest 1 is not bad, it is a bit cartoonish, at least imo, but maybe it is sth you would like to play before titan quest 2.
Good tips! Yeah I played grim dawn rot and grimarillion mods to death. Its an awesome game but a bit dated for me - I'll add no rest for the wicked to the mix.
Did Gav get kicked from this server?
Do not click on the google doc
its very infortmative though
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Isn't it susge to post a Google doc without context
If anyone wants a super dope pc game hit me up! It's a super fun survival rpg called SaleBlazers, where you can sell your loot from enemies in your shop that you built! super dope game :] Great community too!
Malware alert
<@&1161418687471956101>
I'm afraid to click on it at home because it could have malware. I'm afraid to click on it at work because it could be nsfw 
It's also the only thing the person has posted here
To make it extra suspicious
Hmm
last post is april 14
it's either he got kicked or left on his own
Oh that was fairly recent tbf
Can't take a chance on that link being harmful.
Morning, also morning bankai, beat me to it
Was religious and political so rule 5 either way, was viewing it safely ๐
Using windows XP on virtual machine to view the link?
Thanks 
I have Van Helsing, and Shadows Awakening, Warhammer Chaosbane, and Torchlight Infinite.
There's a new one, an interesting take on one, releasing in just a few minutes to early access
You mean 'no rest for the wicked'? Isn't that a soulslike game but isometric? It looks good but I can't say I like getting one-shot and having to reset the boss fights and all.
This isn't about torturing players. The game seems more forgiving than what the developers are leading us to believe. Attacks are properly telegraphed and combat is fairly robust
Well fair enough but not having the option to move with mouse is another bad point for me. It might be ok for others though I guess.
This trend of trying to turn everything into a souls inspired poo heap just isn't for me.
<@&1161418687471956101> spam I think ^
Why did I say I think when it actually is spam lol
it 100% is spam
Sorry, those are usually caught by the auto-mod! Gone now and I'll check the auto-mod
can't they let me get my coffee in peace first 
no 
Maybe if you drank tea they'd leave you alone.
Speaking of Off-Topic, I beat my personal best yesterday on 1000-lines tetris sprint marathon after 7 years since I last PB'ed on that, and I play every day
I've been practising that for 24 years now, so, big deal to me ๐
yo grats, I haven't played tetris in a while
Damn this latest update of Stardew Valley has killed UI Info suite for me
Give it like 24 hours, the mod scene for Stardew works pretty fast
Nah it's already fixed lol
See, I was right xD
I can only hope for Bastion 2. Hades 2 is cool and all but my fav Supergiant game is still Bastion T_T
pyre 2 is what i want
I tried to get into that game but just couldn't.
Anyone else watching all their friends play Helldivers 2 but you too poor to own it 
I don't have friends. If I did, I still wouldn't care because that game doesn't look fun to me at all.
i don't have enough friends i game with on a regular basis to play helldivers 2
Too poor to get a new rig for sure. Not poor enough to buy a ~$35 game.
If only helldiver was a solo game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb5YCTDfB5k
7 DAYS TO DIE FINALLY RELEASING OUT OF EA
Happy (7) days! On 4/20 no less.
Any insight about No Rest for the Wicked, folks? Is this game worth looking into? My region is non-grata apparently so I can't even see the product page on Steam, let alone reviews, without resorting to using Tor.
looks average
If there was a way to report potholes on a maps app such as Waze for instance, would you take the time to report it? (Assuming this information is connected to the Department of Transportation and they will actually do something about it.)
@jade jackal sorry I forgot we even have this chat ๐ but I also felt like I had to point out the safety first before concern about computer parts...
Hi guys probably not the place to ask but im a bit desperate, I need to be sure enough before spending this much money, but my notebook got fried (took it to bed with me to watch movie while i fell asleep and the sheets covered the vents i think and something melted) and I cant boot up a game for longer than 5 minutes before it huts down. I found a list of components of computer parts, can anyone knowledgeable in the field dm me and tell me if everything is in order? I need to get back to save the last peacock
Good Evening
damn, still having slow mode in offtopic. ๐
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Yea, embeds still don't show and we still can't post pics and stuff. W game, L discord.
go youtube and serch for D4 Bad Radio so fun meme
Finally lol
You guys made me redownload WH40k Inquisitor. ๐
I'm almost finished on Grim Dawn, I'm quarter ways for LE, and I'm on level 70 on Diablo 4. Shuffling 6 games in one genre is fun for ADHD dude like me. ๐
I've been playing Stardew Valley for the last month or so lol
Trying to earn that big golden clock >:
I misread that as Big Golden C*** ๐
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high protein eating is no joke peeps, I doubled my max reps in 2 weeks in my current progression
wish I could double corruption this fast lol
But corruption causes you to run out of skill cards๐ฅน
embracer group is splitting into 3 companies
wonder what that means for titan quest 2
It gets bought by Microsoft and ruined
ooo thats a price tag
@subtle python which game?
US NFL Football
I'ma lions fan... he is Eagles (where his name comes from)
if i were a lions fan, im paying that money for him tho
I like the Tamba Bay Buckaneers can you guess why?
you like comeback stories like baker mayfield?
also im canadian i wach hockey lol
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lol No i mean like an actual reason why