💬┃general

[thorn bane]

^

[dusk root]

i need a mid range guide

i dont know what to do inbetween lvling and the endgame guide

[sinful crescent]

Early on, the only resistances I would overcap would be poison. It´s fine to be at like 70% for a while in LE

[sinful crescent]

Follow leveling guide until you have some decent gear would be my suggestion

[dusk root]

oh thats zoo

[thorn bane]

doesnt maxroll have "starting gear>endgame gear>aspirational gear"

[sinful crescent]

They do

[dusk root]

ill try that stuff

[grizzled siren]

Honestly, you don't. With how cheap respecs are, just mess with stuff until you hit something that feels good. If you're a poe vet you know the fundamentals of how to scale damage and layer defenses

[thorn bane]

this game keeps it simple too

[dusk root]

i just played po2 not poe1

[grizzled siren]

LE encourages experiments. Poe punishes them

[vocal sonnet]

problem is im a ward, people with hp leech can survive ward users just die xD

[thorn bane]

nah you just build ward regen

you need a skill that gives you ward

[grizzled siren]

Yeah that happens. I always end up with a chains belt despite telling myself that I'll go strand of souls this time 😭

[fluid patio]

hey guys which class has the most passive aoe ? is there any with like a fire aura or light aura or anything?

[vocal sonnet]

I get like 8k ward and can maintain it, the slugs are just overtuned tf

[thorn bane]

ah yea thats decent

then you need armor

and % DR

those are the next layers

[grizzled siren]

Armor doesn't do shit vs poison unless you have the armor > dot stat

[thorn bane]

which you should

eternal gauntlets

[vocal sonnet]

yh im at like 4k or something, bug the slugs are a dot I think, they're melting frozen on his build and he has like 12k armour and a bunch of dot mitigation

[grizzled siren]

And even then, you kinda soft need immortal stone

[dusk root]

okay i got a lot more resist now

[grizzled siren]

Otherwise the double later partial conversion just makes it kinda ineffective

[thorn bane]

my go to for dots are oracle amulet, eternal gauntlets, and red rings/other forms of %DR

[fluid patio]

hey guys which class has the most passive aoe ? is there any with like a fire aura or light aura or anything?

[thorn bane]

have you tried exploding zombies 👀

[fluid patio]

no is this passive? or active skill

[thorn bane]

its what im running rn pretty funny, a bit clanky tho. u gotta do a setup

[grizzled siren]

It depends on your build. If I'm a big str stacking amor Chad, 80+% armor>dot and immortal stone solves it. On something like a blade dancer, you have to get creative

[thorn bane]

oh i completely missed passive. uh you could do pally judgement aura

the one i said is combo oriented

[fluid patio]

hmmm there a build for that?

[thorn bane]

should be, its one of the most meta ones

[carmine cargo]

How do we convert our corruption onto other timelines again?

[night marten]

confluence of oblivion

[thorn bane]

by running 1 echo then a shade pops up

[dire totem]

how do i get past corruption level 100? do i keep going to the edge of the empowered monolith as much as possible til i fight some sorta boss?

[night marten]

exactly this

[fluid patio]

judgement is an active skill I have to use to trigger it?

[thorn bane]

so theres 2 builds for it. theres one where you cast judgement once and its an aura (skill node on the tree) and the more popular one is where you spam judgement for consecrated ground

[grizzled siren]

I prefer thr aura version tbh. You get to go all-in on heal effect which also gives you insane ward

[thorn bane]

i miss one punch pally

that used to be hilarious but they nerfed it awhile back

[grizzled siren]

Also the mana is easier to manage now that you can't use the reversal skill to get all of it back

[vocal sonnet]

Im gonna need a big aoe farmer for omens my LB mage cant do it

[thorn bane]

exploding zombies 🔥

[dusk root]

okay i got 50-60% most resists im still getting trashed if i stan dstill for a second

[vocal sonnet]

wont the zombies just instant die in omens

[thorn bane]

nope

[vocal sonnet]

what spec are you on?

[thorn bane]

im running the build at 500c just fine doing omen farms at tier 5

[vocal sonnet]

the triple window one?

[dusk root]

abom necro

[sinful crescent]

how much ward are you running?

[grizzled siren]

Oh, abom necro...kinda dies if you get looked at wrong.

[dusk root]

1.5k

[sinful crescent]

and health? Are you draining health per second for ward?

[carmine cargo]

I did that, but no orobyss popped up. Im only at 130 corruption on the other is that the issue?

[thorn bane]

i think you need a decent gap like 50 corruption for it to happen

[grizzled siren]

I think the insta-shade starts at like 300 or so

[thorn bane]

nah i leap frogged to 300 with it

it def works pre300

[vocal sonnet]

I think you need more than 30 higher,

[dusk root]

yeah i got last step of living and passive. 0 hp

[grizzled siren]

That's gonna be too low then

[sinful crescent]

1500 ward and no health is not a lot to be fair. And with resistances not being capped there will be a lot of stuff killing you quickly

[dusk root]

i have no clue how to fit all of that on MG atm

[grizzled siren]

more importantly, you're going to need something secondary to make your ward go farther. that's the hard part of necro. she's not great at armor nor can you use endurance if you're low life

[thorn bane]

bro you got the whole market at your fingertips

lol

[dusk root]

it costs gold

[grizzled siren]

most of the time people default to Mantle of the Pale Ox to make the abom take some of your damage

and then a chomky shield

[dusk root]

i have that too

mantle and face of mountain

[grizzled siren]

if you're doing that, ditch the low life

[dusk root]

millions for the gloves atm

[grizzled siren]

face of the mountan wants you to stack endurance, which doesn't work with ward

[thorn bane]

for a lp1? or

[dusk root]

i went low life because i was dying w/ HP version

[dusk root]

ward to hp

[thorn bane]

yea but how much lp

[covert scaffold]

350+ hours in to the game and only now I realized forge can be access anywhere, not just towns

[thorn bane]

or you talking about the exalted affix?

[dusk root]

1.6k

[grizzled siren]

if you're gonna do low life, an Astral Blood or Exsang body armor is gonna give you a ton of extra ward

[thorn bane]

^

[grizzled siren]

use a more conventional shield

not the mountain one

[thorn bane]

yea if doing no life, you need the chest

[dusk root]

okay ill take off pale ox mantle

[grizzled siren]

once you have more robust HP gear, you can switch over to a health-based version with moutain shield and pale ox

[thorn bane]

are you running cleaver for str to int?

[grizzled siren]

i played abom last season and stuck with low-life the whole time. if definiately got spooky in the 600-800corruption range

i had to get pretty creative finding damage reduction sources (i was also a stubborn git and didn't use a shield lol)

[dusk root]

is there an easier class

[thorn bane]

sentinel

[sinful crescent]

Paladin, smite or judgement

[dusk root]

This is rough atm

like fitting the res and also good gear

[grizzled siren]

paladin is like THE evergreen starter class. very little gear requirements, beefy, easy to scale

plus sentinel has a ton of built-in resist in its tree

[thorn bane]

yup

[sinful crescent]

Paladin gets a ton of stuff for "free", like resistances, endurance, health, self healing

Oh and lets not forget block

[dusk root]

when shoul di swap to cleaver

[thorn bane]

i try to stay away from sentinel cuz of that lmao

feels like a cheat code

[grizzled siren]

just swapping over to astral blood or exang will be a HUGE boost to your necro's tankyness tho

[dusk root]

ill get that

which weapon is good?

[late plank]

Where do we get the new echo? random drop from omen windows?

[thorn bane]

pretty sure its the vendor in the middle of the monos

if thats the one you mean

[grizzled siren]

i like scales of lemnisticate for mono-minion builds, but it's a 2h, so no shield. otherwise...anything with some minion damage on it? your weapon isn't hugely important for abom

[late plank]

oh god

im lvl 100, farming in 650cr and never checked that vendor

[thorn bane]

wait a minute i just realized something. "ward on kill" blessing wont proc if my minion does the kill right

[thorn bane]

idk if its worth it tbh. doesnt give a weaver point and i just spend my fragments on the pinnacle omen chain

is there something im missing from it thats good?

[late plank]

im done with this char, its ubers time

[night marten]

yup

[thorn bane]

welp i guess i have a dead blessing then xD i guess its gives ward decay lol

[thorn bane]

what character?

[grizzled siren]

are you doing the physical version with the t-rex skull that was popular last season?

[late plank]

Bleed hammer

[dusk root]

ya. i have the skull so far. i changed some gear up now im at 2.8k ward and max ele reistists

gonna try now

[grizzled siren]

if you want to do something a little spicy with it, you can do a necro damage abom and use Apogee of Frozen Light as your weapon.

last season the abom eating a minion counted as it dying, so frozen vengence stacks were super free

idk if that works now. the assembled minions are unsummoned, not killed. unsure about when the abom eats it to heal itself

[oblique root]

hello, im on empowered echos but i have quests saying i need to defeat quest lines of monoliths, meaning downgrading and finishing the quests for those monoliths, do i NEED to do them or can i just skip?

[dusk root]

am i supposed to do the infernal shade skill swap stuff

i have ignored that

were you spec and despec it

[grizzled siren]

no idea. i played a poison version of abom last season that i cooked up myself

i think they physical version was technically stronger, but mine was more than good enough

[grizzled siren]

the idea being soulfire gives the shade infinite duration so you spec it out, cast it, then spec something else i guess?

what is the guide telling you to spec in its place?

[dusk root]

ya

[dusk root]

I think bone curse

[late plank]

fractured prison GET ✅

[grizzled siren]

so you'll have abom, aura, summon skeleton, dread shade, and then the 5th slot is curse/infernal shade?

it's strong for sure, but the build works without it

that's an optimization

it's a 50% more damage mod from bone curse that you lose out on by not doing the spec swap

not back breaking

[dusk root]

i think they say if you aren't gonna swap, do bone curse instead of infernal

[grizzled siren]

sure

then you're missing 50% inc. attack speed

either way, it's helpful but not mandatory. especially when your struggle point is not dying

[dusk root]

i actually feel pretty tanky now after getting better gear

[void hatch]

the game is unplayable as soon as I open a Greater Omen, anyone else with this issue? I have an rx 6600, even with the graphics settings at the lowest, the FPS drops to 35-50 (Usually 70-80 on Ultra). I believe its even worse on Steam deck..?

[dusk root]

im sure ill be raging again once htiting empowered 😄

i went over board and accidentally have 176% crit dmg reduce oops

[quiet cradle]

my poor potato laptop cant handle omen fights bro too much mobs

[grizzled siren]

yeah that doesn't do nything above 100 lol

[dusk root]

ya i didn't see it on the legendary chest i bought

[void hatch]

Yeah, I'm trying to get a refund from Steam, I can't play like this.

[dusk root]

ya omen make smy 4080 struggle

[wet mauve]

just cap the fps at 30

[inner finch]

Only HP OMEN laptops can

[cobalt nymph]

Hello! How was frogs from Anurok are nerfed? Can i kill Uber Abby with frogs?

[coral dove]

Can anyone tell me why my character doesn't save after I exit the game?

[thin scarab]

IMPO more damage killing mobs faster makes lag go down, unironically

[coral dove]

in an online game

[fluid patio]

@thorn bane yoo i got the aura on but its not killing anything?

[thorn bane]

well you gotta scale it

unless they changed it, lemme look at it

[fluid patio]

wait its judgement?

thats the aura?

[thorn bane]

you gotta annointed tree node right?

[fluid patio]

judgment is the aura right?

[thorn bane]

once you get the "annointed" node yes

in the top left corner

under judgement skill tree

i linked it in ask the community since no pics here

[sharp whale]

Skill issue xD

[magic orbit]

Trying to decide on what to try this time. Wizzard (rune or spellblade), void knight, or give primalist another shot even though last time it was so painful I just gave up after getting the scorpion.

[turbid silo]

Checking internally....

[sinful crescent]

It is working. Thank you for getting back though and sorry for disturbing with something that was working

I do wonder what the % chance of am ambush is. 1 beast so far in I don´t know how many monoliths across 4 characters

[turbid silo]

There hasn't been any reports of it from in-game bug reports. I am assuming you haven't seen a single random Rift Beast. How long has it been?

[turbid silo]

Woops, sorry just saw this 😄

[sinful crescent]

I saw one beast an hour ago. First beast since launch of S4 and I actually rushed that node to farm uniques.

[turbid silo]

Hopefully more spawn for you!

[sinful crescent]

And probably kill me because I complained 🙂

[still cliff]

which timeline do i farm for most money? wanna soll the bossdrops etc

[turbid silo]

Hopefully not!

[still cliff]

the black sun good timeline to farm?

[sinful crescent]

Age of Winter has some good drops. Not sure what drops sell on trade though

[still cliff]

nobody knows what to farm i guess, to make money

[sinful crescent]

Oh nice, a 3LP Frozen Eyes of Formossus

Is it time for steroid mage build? 🙂

[fallow elbow]

could i find the steps/requirements to unlock the new pinnacle omen boss echo somewhere?

[night marten]

do all three windows in omen veil

[fallow elbow]

what does "all three windows in omen veil" mean

[night marten]

exactly what it says

do all three windows in the omen veil

[fallow elbow]

ok, let's clarify some stuff

what is the omen veil 🙂

[turbid silo]

It's the new Woven Echo that you have to buy from Apophis 😄

[night marten]

its a woven echo

[fallow elbow]

ok, where does that echo drop?

[night marten]

doesnt drop, have to buy it

buy it from apophis

[fallow elbow]

oh ok, do you know the level required?

[night marten]

no lvl req. but you have to be in the monolith

cuz thats where apophis is

[fallow elbow]

i see apophis is not masque

where is apo?

[night marten]

in the monolith

the center

you had to have gone there at least once

[turbid silo]

Oh derp my b

[fallow elbow]

ok ty, this should help me on my way

didnt know about apo the new npc

[night marten]

we expect perfection derrick...doesnt matter how many days in a row you have worked 10+ hours 😛

[viral marsh]

Where do you get the crafting tutorial and access to the new vendor when creating a new character?

[night marten]

you shouldnt get it on alts

[viral marsh]

So it doesn't exist on legacy?

[brittle jay]

any falconer build worht besides ballista? Or should I respec into bladedancer?

[night marten]

shouldnt, no. once you login to a toon that is over lvl 15, the tutorial isnt supposed to come up

there might be some weird seasonal transfer thing

but i doubt it

[viral marsh]

So if I play legacy I won't have access to the new vendor? Cause I don't have that

[night marten]

what new vendor? the tutorial doesnt sell anything

apophis?

[gilded tartan]

Can corrupted exalts be used for LP fodder?

[night marten]

no

[gilded tartan]

so idon't want to be corrupting my exalts if i play to transfer the stats later

[teal egret]

I was about to ask if he lived here because Im on here at crazy times because Im slightly addicted and have lost my mind and every time, he’s here 🤣

Let the big homie Derrick go home! #FreeDerrick til we can say it backwards ✊

[viral marsh]

There's a vendor selling bags and stuff for timeglass fragments, I don't have that. Idk the name

[night marten]

lmao. nah its more so they just work extra on release weekend. im sure this week will even out their normal workload

[thorn bane]

so im trying to get the omen idols. do you think its better to do lvl 5 chains or the pinnacle champ chain? ive been doing both just curiuos if one is better suited

[night marten]

yeah, thats apophis. she should be in the monolith

[gilded tartan]

can corrupted uniques be used as sacrifice fodder to reroll?

[oblique plume]

I just read this, in PoE1 I remember when I played soft core and a HC person who ripped shouted “ew scrubcore”

Changed my mind forever

I swear I can’t unsee the “deathless” title in last epoch

I wish they delete that

Once I die in the game I feel bad

[sinful crescent]

Why should they delete it though?

[oblique plume]

Feels good but lol once it is lost

Is lost

[sinful crescent]

I think it is a nice gateway if someone considers HC. You can play SC and still try not to die and keep the title

Speaking of dying... Something I would love if LE copied from PoE is the pause functionality. That thing is just awesome. Didn´t know I wanted it until we got it and now it is just perfect for gaming and being able to instantly pause when daughter wants something or wife aggroes.

[lone minnow]

Wife aggro is the main reason i do SC in ARPGs

[wet mauve]

yeah honestly I died a few times thinking I could just hit esc and walk away

[lone minnow]

They just have to solve the pause and then deliberately wait till disconnect to avoid death issue

[sinful crescent]

Well if I die I blame wife and tell her I need another day or two to make up for her causing me to die :p

[viral marsh]

Oooh I see, it just wasn't shown and she's in the middle

[magic orbit]

My wife will usually wait if I'm in a cutscene or boss fight or something. Dog on the other hand absolutely must have the pets.

[night marten]

well i mean its your fault for not petting your dog enough. the dog is correct

[magic orbit]

Indeed he is

Anyway made a decision to give Allie's void knight a try. Been longer since I played VK, hopefully sentinel has gotten some love.

[ionic vale]

day 1 of asking EHG to add guns into game

[magic orbit]

I remember last time I tried it there was just no point ever using anything but rive

[night marten]

there are multiple good vk builds that can do all content

[magic orbit]

woah qol was an understatement. last time I tried this it was downright painful slogging through literally the first few enemies, this is actually sailing now.

[sinful crescent]

Is it intended that the objective inside a monolith changes? From "Seal the gate" to "Defeat the ambush" for example

[lone dew]

that only happens on the "surprise" ambush event. Can't think of any others that change mid-echo

[night marten]

yes

its not much of an ambush if you know its coming all the time 😉

[sinful crescent]

I don´t get ambushed, I ambush the monsters!

[magic orbit]

"I am the one who bushes!"

[grizzled siren]

how are y'all aproaching idol altars? i have no idea what i'm looking for in terms of good ones vs bad ones so i have literally every altar i have ever dropped in my stash

[sinful crescent]

Kind of the same. But just changed since I got a really good one that helped me round out my stats perfectly

[night marten]

depends on your idols, and what you want to boost

prolly either suffix or prefix effect

and then if you are using omen idols, prolly +omen idols

also what size idols you want to use matter. so lets say you want a lot of 1 tall 3/4 wide idols...something like pyramid or skyward would work well

[magic orbit]

anybody else think that first general guy tracking the keepers sounds like a store brand sean bean?

[night marten]

were if you want 1 high and 3/4 long idols, jagged would prolly be better

[grizzled siren]

yeah the type of altar makes sense. just fit it to your idol shape. i don't really have an idea for the possibility space for the stats that can be on them

[night marten]

what are you building in idols?

like affixes

[sweet moss]

why the bleep does the le 71 error keep happening

tryna spam dungeon, but its so annoying

[fallow elbow]

is it possible for fractured prison (the new boss echo) to spawn from being imprinted?

[muted cape]

I just get proph alters if im Playing a build with nest or wings. Easiest to figure out and scale.

[grizzled siren]

currently crit mult and armor shred effect (rogue)

[meager tundra]

can you not get corrupted stats on set pieces anymore? I've corrupted 4 bee chest pieces and none of them have added stats

[night marten]

so you probly want crit multi prefix to be enhanced

[grizzled siren]

but health/dodge hybrid is also strong if it's got a good suffix. and that's on a completely different shape

soooo yeah

[night marten]

yeah just depends on what you want to build

[muted cape]

Hmm speaking of. Wearbear tsunami I cooked up. https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bakyjazr

[slow cloud]

Druid, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.1

Class:

Primalist (25) / Beastmaster (31) / Druid (57)

General:

▸ Health: 2,841, Regen: 234/s
▸ Mana: 218.47, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 28%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 151 Str / 84 Dex / 14 Int / 28 Att / 32 Vit
▸ Resistances: 61% / 77% / 106% / 88% / 61% / 91% / 55%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 91%, Threshold: 1,361
▸ Dodge Chance: 43% (1561)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 67% (5,746)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 104%

Used skills:

Werebear Form / Warcry / Maelstrom / Entangling Roots

[grizzled siren]

the decision paralysis on the new idols is real

[teal egret]

the only thing that can beat decision paralysis is chaotic choosing

[sweet moss]

now lowk yall needa fix ts

bc its been in the game forever

[half drift]

Please for the love of god can I get one gold echo that I'm allowed to complete

I need like 300k more gold to respec my mastery and losing every single gold echo bc I can't portal out is killing me

[sweet moss]

if you die when you complete it you still get it...

[half drift]

portal bug doesn't let you though

it almost feels like certain echo rewards trigger it more often

[scenic fog]

Hang in there Iris, you can do it.

[plush light]

whats the cosmetic set that gives you a tail and looks kinda like a dragon?

[merry flame]

💀 how does thamaturgy device work? i cant click on experiment

[grizzled siren]

out of curiosity, have you completed any dungeons on that character? specificlly arbor?

for some reason when i finished lightless arbor the portal bug like...completely stopped

i have NO idea how they could be related at all

[coarse siren]

trinity of flames would be cooler if subskills inherited the guaranteed crit

[half drift]

brb trying this immediately

did you portal charm or do the whole dungeon

[grizzled siren]

charm. who runs dungeons? lol

[slim depot]

When this happens, in-game bug report doesn't work (this is F7 or F8 IIRC? Neither work).

I had a menu open this time, and the 'tab bar' glitched out when this happened.

I would attach a screenshot, but this channel doesn't allow that. In thie case, the far left & right of the tabs at the top of the window turned into white squares, rather than blank spaces.

The game is still running/animating, and playing sounds, but the game ignores all inputs. I can still open/close the steam overlay though.

[sinful sleet]

Does anyone know if that bundle that had a cover with an eye will be sold again? I wanted to buy it.

[tired abyss]

How do I get resonance so I can send loot to my friend? it’s like always 0, no matter what we do together

[lucid prairie]

well i'll freakin be, monoliths feel good to complete and im doing stabilities up to the max. well done devs

[night marten]

Gotta kill the 25 mages...then put in an item with the proper number of affixes. There is a popup

[night marten]

Just play together. There is no guarantee threshold

[muted cape]

Is there a fix for swipe?

Currently its bugged or something lol... I never tested it though

[night marten]

Are you talking about the swipe thing in #1486744068347269301

[muted cape]

Gotcha. Yep.

[night marten]

Crazy

[muted cape]

Poor sabertooth builds i guess 😕

[tired abyss]

Maybe due to constant “connection lost”, it perceives each new entry as separate and starts counting again each time

[muted cape]

Ohh and crow storm. Hmm weird how didnt played a build using swipe this season yet

[hollow echo]

For some reason I cannot imprint any weapon or Armour item in the sealed riches slot on the weaver tree?

Nvm must be cant be corrupted as it just worked with a non corrupted stash item

[brisk sun]

Devs can we have option to skip RP on normal Abberoth?
Im at the point when I kill Uber faster than Normal Abby.

Have to wait every fight for 1 minute RP is painful.

[half drift]

nope, I didn't encounter it again for a few echos but now it's back

[grizzled siren]

Sad. How far along in the echos are you? It isn't 100% not happening to me, but I'm seeing is WAY less in empowered echos than I did at the start

[chilly wind]

Yo, how's everyone? Been a minute since i talked here

[half drift]

I'm almost done with getting my first full set of an empowered blessings

I've also noticed it's happening less

[grizzled siren]

My SOP has become 'do a quick save and exit right before any echo i would be particularly madge if I didn't get rewards from it'

[full badger]

what is up with shield throw and not being able to use it sometimes

[dusk root]

okay. idunno what people are talking about

i have max resist and crit reductrion and i can't survive in these final 4/4 omens for even 1 second. lvl 90 not eomopwered

should i skip this entire season mechanic?

very unfun

[grizzled siren]

Omens are very unkind to builds that can't be up in the mix a bit.

[dusk root]

i'm using the top acolyute buidl

abom necro

[grizzled siren]

You've got 2 things working against you

Abom is a single target MONSTER but less good at clear

And you're a relatively squishy "stay out of the fight" build

Both of which are rough in omens

[dusk root]

can i avoid omens?

or is it required for anything

[maiden stag]

only for loot

[grizzled siren]

You can use volatile zombie to help with clear as well as take some heat off you

Abom won't eat those

[small sphinx]

hows the new update?

[half drift]

quick save??

how do you quick save

[languid rover]

All I can tell about the omens is that if a guy who's been playing for years on his legacy char and is doing 3k corr with no issue, helps me with my pinnacle 400-500corr omen, and still takes massive dmg

I would say it's a little bit overtuned

I pretty much get one tapped by almost every attack there

Sorry, I should meantion I mean the champion omen, the regular T1 omens...are tough but not impossible

[dusk root]

omens are rough 😄

[grizzled siren]

Just exit to character select

[novel lagoon]

how do i guarentee a lp affix?

does it have to be t2 julra?

[grizzled siren]

t2 or higher, yeah

[grizzled siren]

you're also playing one of, if not THE most nerfed build of the season. physical t-rex abom was SUPER powerful last season, it got some pretty big taps

actually no, Thicket shaman was nerfed harder

that thing got its knees taken out

[undone wave]

reflect definitely got nerfed the hardest

[dusk root]

Whats the best warlock build then? or lich

[undone wave]

and when they nerfed the briar idols, they indirectly nerfed shield throw in the process, which wasn't that good to begin with, and now it's even worse

I get wanting to nerf blinding light and thornshell, but nerfing the briar idols too meant a lot of non-blinding light builds got caught in the crossfire

[grizzled siren]

that always happens, unfortunately

[grizzled siren]

mana flay lich is still probably really good

[undone wave]

My point is it shouldn't happen

If they had the foresight to not be overly egregious with the broad nerf to reflect in general instead of just the blinding light/thronshell setup

[full wraith]

people getting disconnects?

[frosty fox]

yes, constant

[dusk root]

t2 julra for gaurantee 1lp thinG?

[ornate mango]

none here (us west)

[median atlas]

Guys I have issue with game, get second time crashed game in one specific location - on Deck, It's only my problem?

[full wraith]

you on US central?

[frosty fox]

yup

[balmy iris]

Constant disconnects - US Central

[hazy kraken]

same on central

[soft birch]

same

[ornate mango]

come to the west coast, the water's warm

[steel bear]

Good to know it's not just me but this ruins the only free hour of play time I have all week

[undone wave]

yeah west seems fine for now

[median atlas]

You got disconected, I get crush report and crush

[ornate mango]

what does this mean

[median atlas]

Game crush on location name Ship Deck, maybe, I'm not sure, I have diffrent language

The second time now

[hazy kraken]

it was all of us central not just that location

seems to be fine again

[median atlas]

But it's connected to crash reports? Game is shuted down

[dusk root]

i used hte portal charm it dind'd ttak eme to julra

[median atlas]

Nevermind, I go to sleep. maybe I can play when I woke up

Thx tho

[red valley]

outside of completing quests, why would I want to summon a Harbinger to any random Boss fight?

[undone wave]

loot drops

[formal star]

Did the devs give a specific reason for Evolution's End being untradeable?

[ruby ferry]

What’s best build for paladin this season….

[wet heron]

What y’all think about lizard?

[open jungle]

Judgement

[carmine arch]

Ain't judgement the best every season?

[short vessel]

It's happened in reverse too lol. Paladin healing got primalist heal effectiveness idols nerfed

[onyx hatch]

is there a "fastest" favor farm for cof ?

[ornate mango]

favor cache master race

[onyx hatch]

what?

[ornate mango]

weaver nodes that add a 30% chance to spawn 'favor caches' in your echoes. it's not a huge amount but it seriously adds up

'gift of allegiance'

[cosmic smelt]

what woven echoes are good to imprint?

[distant dock]

Is favor = reputation ?

[carmine cargo]

Whats the Woven Echo called thats lets you divine a unique by sacrificing others?

[quartz valley]

I tried to change the Twitch binding, but it shows that the binding failed.

[oblique root]

Does the Bountiful Sarcophagy node in woven tree mean you can drop world splitter from rare mobs if im running them in black sun?

am i reading this right?

[minor berry]

Hi everyone, which class has dual sword?

[half drift]

rogue or spellblade iirc

[minor berry]

tyty

[cosmic smelt]

can you have a sealed affix and set affix on same item?

[grizzled siren]

sure. you can even have a sealed set affix

[tired orchid]

anyone by chance have the woven echo for a bunch of the imprisoned mages? late league start and i need a ladle so i can swap rq

[proud yacht]

Can i use a corrupted item as a base to transfer a mod from onto a unique with legendary potential ?

[twilit grove]

is there a COF option for target farm certain omen idol?

[cosmic smelt]

is the only way to improve an LP 0 unique through the nemesis system?

[twilit grove]

@earnest oasis sry for tagging but can you please tell me how I target farm omen idol?

[short vessel]

technically speaking you can corruption it 😛

but it won't give you LP

[ancient surge]

CoF can target farm idols of a certain type with prophecies, yes, but omen idols are purely omen drops, so the only way I'd see a prophecy for that existing is specifically kill omen, rain omen idols, if that even exists.
Nemmy egg is the only option that can add LP to a 0LP item. Turtle mostly removes LP, but has a chance to reroll the LP into a non-0 value, never stays the same, probably cannot stay the same.
And yes, corruption technically can add a mod, but you have no control over that and it comes with a distinctive finality attached to it.

[south moat]

also sentinel has

[short vessel]

and any primalist

[grizzled siren]

there's no cap to armor shred right? soft or hard cap?

[short vessel]

i mean there kinda is, the damage gains from armor shred have diminishing returns

1 sec

check the shred tab here

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/armor

typically people aim for ~100 stacks

[grizzled siren]

oh wow. ok i am way over applying that

[lethal hound]

hi

is the mod "more damage while you have frenzy" affected by "increased frenzy effect"?

[undone wave]

I would assume not, since it's only increasing the effect of frenzy itself

[lethal hound]

well I need a confirmation from EHG

[south moat]

Well then you should probably ask it in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[lethal hound]

since others will give contradicting answers

ah ok

[undone wave]

Just based on wording, it's a safe bet that it doesn't

more damage while you have frenzy, its not giving frenzy itself damage

[south moat]

Yeah, I'd say that too

[lethal hound]

I just need EHG confirmation

[south marsh]

I wonder if the devs are gonna make a few jokes tomorrow

[lethal hound]

and also

[south marsh]

Like making all the mobs drop common items only

[ancient surge]

I am fairly sure it does not. the mod is "more damage while you have frenzy" so it's a simple IF you have frenzy.

[lethal hound]

has anyone on EHG seen my report of abomination sacrifice bug here yet?

[south moat]

Nah they aren't gonna do that

[south marsh]

Missed opportunity

[lethal hound]

I tried f8 but it says "error submitting report"

[south moat]

They'll just make love epoch real 😍

[ancient surge]

Verified game files?

[south moat]

That doesn't fix the abomination thing

[ancient surge]

But the error submitting report?

[lethal hound]

wdym "verified game file"?

I just play offline

[south marsh]

Oh yeah btw do you use a VPN? Maybe it's making issues

Oh nvm

[lethal hound]

no?

[undone wave]

Can't send bug reports offline

[ancient surge]

You play offline and expect to send bug reports online, mkay.

[undone wave]

You're offline

[lethal hound]

oh so need to play online to send that bug?

[ancient surge]

Offline mode is structured such that no game connection exists.

[south marsh]

I think there is a report function on the forums or something idk

[ancient surge]

!support

[rancid basalt]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[south marsh]

Oh yeah

[south moat]

If you don't play true offline you can send bug reports even while "offline"

[ancient surge]

To be fair, Step 1 is always verify game files. Offline or no, the game may have downloaded weirdly and a corrupt file may exists which does not actually break the game, but breaks a functionality of the game.

[south moat]

Yeah but that doesn't fix this one

[lethal hound]

pretty sure I paid money to buy it on steam and downloaded it properly

[south moat]

Yeah but sometimes it happens even with steam downloads

[ancient surge]

Welp, have fun with support then, I tried.

[ancient surge]

I was more trying to understand how the in-game F8 might error out, so it never hurts to exclude a broken game file that may impact just that, but eh...

[south moat]

Oh
Yea it just doesn't work in true offline 🤷‍♂️

As it shouldn't because you're not connecting to any servers

[ancient surge]

I assumed so, but but maybe I misread something along the way. Thank you for clarifying, though.

[topaz abyss]

New player here how rare is red ring i just got from shade of Orbyss only 100 corruption ? !

[south moat]

One of the rarest items in the entire game
You got extremely lucky

[grizzled siren]

there has got to be a better way to get the arena champion items than sitting through the arena HOPING the champion you want shows up

[south moat]

The woven echo drops one, doesn't it?

[grizzled siren]

is that one you can buy? idk if i've gotten it yet

[south moat]

Champions' Colosseum
random drop and also purchaseable at rank 8

[grizzled siren]

mmm. ways off of rank 8 sadly

[south moat]

Got a few of them last league when I didn't hit rank 8

[ancient surge]

Woven echoes drop regardless of rank, but masque only sells woven echoes to you based on your rank with him.

[south moat]

Man
I really wish we had just "go to character select" option instead of leave game

Also why do the loot lizards no longer have their colors on minimap

[severe socket]

Morning, folks.

[south moat]

Good morning

[severe socket]

Did EHG say anything about any upcoming patches/hotfixes?

Just keeping my hand on the pulse.

[main frigate]

I want to know what's new incoming in 1.5 already if we talk about the pulse

Big chance for me to skip 1.5 too I guess

Too sensitive for changes when you're familiar with a game too much so it's not a good thing to get fun

When everything is new, it's the golden era

つ ◕◕ ༽つ Summon the expansion ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[ancient surge]

I trust our summoners at EHG for that.

[severe socket]

...

[ancient surge]

To more properly answer your question: what time scale are you interested in?

[south moat]

They're not going to reveal you what's coming in 1.5
other than what's already known

[ancient surge]

I would expect EHG to keep going the way they've been going with that. Only releasing information they are quite certain about.

[halcyon sky]

Did anyone else have issues with rune prison complex crafting? the crafts just didn't apply for me. if i pressed craft, nothing happened at all. Didn't see anyone else talk about it yet, and nothing in #1486744068347269301

[ancient surge]

I've been lazily leveling (90 for now), have not gotten that far to even have that echo.

[severe socket]

Keep that handy until any CM logs in. Or better yet, hit F8 and send the in-game bug report when you're able.

[half flint]

did they increase the rarity of red ring? spend like 600k favour...

[halcyon sky]

unfortunately I did it a few days ago so dont have footage for it now. but i just got a new woven echo and dont wanna spend it until i know it works 😄

[severe socket]

Hiya Kirra. How's your gameplay so far?

[main frigate]

Sure, except Aaron lol

[severe socket]

To be fair, those fixes don't come by overnight, so any extra bit of info helps.

[halcyon sky]

Easiest is to just unequip your gear and see if you have the stats (make sure to check one of them you don't have any passive points for)

[main frigate]

No gameplay

[severe socket]

You mean you haven't played this season yet?

I know I still don't have time to play at all. Can't' even run the game without something outside to disrupt everything again.

Parenting, caregiving, all those freaking clinic rides, including ones to another goddamn city across half the country, you name it.

[main frigate]

I need more new contents to not feel boring quickly :)

[severe socket]

...I guess...

[main frigate]

Just overthink what the hell future I can get last night too

No one can give me answers for that obviously

[severe socket]

Some things are just that unpredictable.

[main frigate]

Both of us like self-speaking, I appreciate this point

[severe socket]

Besides, the world's on fire, so whatever happens, happens.

It's not like we can influence the bigger picture. Can only deal with things one at a time.

[main frigate]

Just feel everyone have bright future except me, I know it's wrong but I can't stop myself to think that

[severe socket]

Can relate.

Very much so, I think.

[south moat]

They're not going to tell Aaron either...

I'd be willing to bet that he only knows what's on roadmap

Also if they did tell Aaron there would be a marketing reason for it

But you or me?
We aren't big content creators and would be more likely to leak it to public

[half wind]

Is ground loot behaving weird? It feels as if not as much items drop, even less when filtering what I need. Like yesterday within a 5h play session I haven't found a single dagger with one of 5 stats that I would need to slam 🙁 same with rings, anyone experiencing something similar?

[oblique root]

Is there a way i can see the list of all possible corrupt modifiers?

[open jungle]

Yes, i was thinking the same yesterday. I'm at 300 corruption and I don't see any significant drops or upgrades, I don't see weaver tree imprint procs very often.

[south moat]

You could probably find them all on lastepochtools

[sweet moss]

can re rename abberoth void puppy

[crisp sinew]

Well I got black screen when starting up the game, that's cool

[daring kindle]

maybe a silly question, but I killed abberoth and pushed to like 500 corruption, whats left to do besides just mindlessly pushing more corruption or playing a new build?

I know uber abberoth is a thing at 1k but what else

[open jungle]

Nothing else left. Push corruption or make new builds.

[daring kindle]

ah well thats a shame

[plush karma]

season done. see you next season

:D

[undone wave]

Everyone forgot about the omen boss apparently lmao

[turbid glacier]

(5% to 10%) Chance to Gain 75 Ward when you hit a Shocked Enemy (up to 3 times per 2 seconds) ----------- This is from set ring. My Q is can this be a shard afix?

[daring kindle]

then my seasons last 2-3 days lol

[crisp sinew]

NVM, verifying some stuff helps

[ruby marlin]

I've experienced Unity error during exploration of the Majasa temple...

[crisp sinew]

Alright guys, which builds are great for fast and quick Rogue melee without being a rogue?

should I return with Blademaster?

[south marsh]

Flay lich

[crisp sinew]

Bladedancer*

[mossy helm]

anyone have experience with the fatal error failed to load il2cpp?

[crisp sinew]

Which class is that?

[south marsh]

Acolyte

Lich

[crisp sinew]

So Flay Lich? gotcha..

[south marsh]

Yeah it's..... Something that's all I can say ur gonna see it urself

[crisp sinew]

Nice. Thanks for the advice

[south marsh]

Do enjoy urself

Now that I think about it after I played Lich most of the other builds lost their charm

That thing is disgusting

In a positive way

[sweet moss]

mana fway wich

[crisp sinew]

Mana flay eh?

[south marsh]

Very gear dependant and not a good leveling spec bare in mind

Not impossible it'll just be annoying at times

Tho with corrupted items it could be easier

Just gotta get lucky

[robust peak]

can i use temporal sanctum to put a "sentinel relic" onto my "rogue relic" if like i'm just getting main stat and stuff like that?

[main frigate]

sure, It's why Aaron means more values for EHG

Normal players shape the future of le? hhhhh Just CM will believe that

[woeful crystal]

hey guys, i'm thorn between warpath, if i should go paladin or void knight

[undone wave]

if its warpath, then void knight

[restive nymph]

even after a complete steam and LE reinstall i still cant connect (offline play works but i really want to play with a friend) - it looks like i am an edge case- is a dev here who can help or anything i can do - like checking Ports or sth ?=

exept using the bug-report function 😄

[last egret]

try VPN

also if you live in certain countries with internet restrictions, try TCP/UDP filters to bypass

[restive nymph]

never used a vpn 😄 ima try

[last egret]

do not try the free one tho, you either buy one or dont use

to not risk anything

[restive nymph]

i was told using vpn makes the issue even worse- but i mean its not working anyway

[last egret]

cant you call your ISP and ask about this anyway

[restive nymph]

i ask some friends who know what to use 😄

[wet heron]

Did y’all do bladestorm with sync strike?

[restive nymph]

thats why i asked for ports- but sometime i connect in town und discornnect when trying to leave- i dondt completely think its my ISP tho

[last egret]

it depends where you live and who is your ISP

i think they are pretty open about sharing the info in most of the countries

like its not a secret since you can look up the stuff yourself anyway

[merry ginkgo]

getting LE-63 echo already in progress like every 5 echoes...

[half wind]

I have yet to get an imprint drop 😄 but loot in general feels dry except for the prophecy rewards, but finding even a t6 stat that I can use is rare

[native lark]

hey guys, any suggestion for a class and build that starts strong in the early and scale well in late game as well?

[half wind]

Flay lich into mana flay

Need to level as warlock tho, but that's like the strongest leveling class

[native lark]

tyvm

[ancient surge]

I am fairly sure all the classes have their own potential for such a path through the game. Some may be more efficient than others, but play it right and you can build up any class into empowered.

[umbral bramble]

When you realise you can corrupt idols for bees, but the weight is super low.

[south marsh]

Play it right = just cap out your resists and don't use the wrong damage type

[subtle venture]

Can someone please help me beat the lightless arbor dungeon on t4 please?

[ashen vector]

Did they ever release season 3 stats? How played was primalist

I saw someone post and infographic but it's missing primalist

Sentinel was at like 26 %

[willow sentinel]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/eterra-monthly-feb-edition-2026/80490

[ancient surge]

I will admit I was surprised I could do it today already at level 91. Maybe storm crows really are that bonkers and I never knew it. But since it is a fight where most of the time, getting hit by the mechanics is one-shot or near-oneshot, I do have to ask what build are you trying to do it with?

[dusky chasm]

quick question, can u add t8 unto a legendary, if so, can a t8 be added in a primordial legendary or it would make it 2 primordial items and u would not be able to equip it?

[ancient surge]

Quick answer: no. Sealed affixes do not transfer.

[dusky chasm]

the t8 would get sealed opening the slot then?

it would not work as a dispair it would just seal it but not unto a new one?

[ancient surge]

Yes, rune of evolution works by sealing a T7 affix and turning it into T8.

No sealed affixes count for eternity cache, and corrutped items cannot be used.

[dusky chasm]

Not sure i understand the last sentence but i am interested, would you be so kind to elaborate a little bit if u have the time?

[ancient surge]

You can have sealed affixes regularly (some items drop with one) or by making them sealed with the glyph of despair. Primal (T8) affixes on exalted items are also considered sealed affixes. With the introduction of corruption, they made it so no corrupted item can be used in the eternity cache either. Those 3 are the only types of sealed affixes we have to date.

[carmine flame]

so i took the node flow which give life gain on hit but peka of the mountain doesnt allow leech from crit somehow im steel gaining health does it mean gain on hit differ from leech?

[ancient surge]

Going to guess no titan heart?

[carmine flame]

if the answer is yes since im playing a low life build that benefit from death's door + architecht of astral blood, did i jsut brick my set up by gaining life on hit from the flow node?

[quiet flicker]

Do we have a bug dedicated channel? I cannot board the ship to Soreth'Ka lol

[dusky chasm]

Count as sealed but does it open the slot when it becoems a t8 or it just count as sealed meaning u cant seal another one with dispair since u would already have 1 sealed with the t8 or u can have more than 1 sealed?

[vivid geyser]

Has anyone had any issues with Forgotten Keep? Like, no progress and Baroness AWOL?

[night marten]

you should have the waypoint unlocked to sorethka

[ancient surge]

Ah, I see your question now. Sealed affixes are their own slots and are not part of the base 4 affix slots of any item.

[night marten]

just use the map

[dusky chasm]

so, making a t7 a t8 would work as a dispair but it increased the tier from 7 to 8 too. to make it easy for me to fully understand. Cheers mate.

[night marten]

nah, she was always on the top floor in a corner. didnt have issues when i did it this season

[vivid geyser]

Thanks mate, I’ll have another sus

[ancient surge]

In a sense, yes. But using rune of evolution like that is counter-intuitive when we have runes of havoc for moving T7's around. (or runes of redemption if you're feeling bold)

[dusky chasm]

How come, havocs would never give u a t8. i dont see the relation between the two concepts. that being said, it does nto matter much since my build requires to have a primordial unique anyways, so i would not have a single way to fit a t8 anyways. Thanks for ur time.

[quiet flicker]

Jesus, thanks! Annoying I didn't think of that

[willow sentinel]

Top floor?

Are we like climbing a tower?

That echo confuses me a bit too

[night marten]

for that WE, technically yes

its like 4 'floors'

[ancient surge]

T8s are implicitly primal and they can only exist via runes of evolution. You were asking if a T8 an get onto an item and I said no, because the mechanics of the eternity cache do not permit it by default due to the nature of T8 affixes being sealed.

[dusky chasm]

Since u can only have 1 it would be nice if we could add 1 t8 unto a legendary, would make for some cute builds. maybe some would be extremelly OP tho. Secondly, would be nice if the t8 would not be primar at all, would make some builds use less legendary and benefit more from farming the mechanic itself...

[ancient surge]

Or use legends entwined and go wild with set-based builds :p

[dusky chasm]

last question, can u corrupt an item and get a t7 or even a t8?

[fierce ibex]

t8 no. t7 yes

[dusky chasm]

pog, last question then. what are the odds, when corrupting that it does something negative? ❤️

[ancient surge]

Corruption adds an affix into the corrutped slot (a sealed affix) The affix can be T1 to T7 of any affix of the pool that can roll on that item.

[fierce ibex]

it's always a risk. you only do it, once you are ready to give up on the item basically. (make sure to have a spare)

[shadow berry]

It can brick your unique

[dusky chasm]

am asking a %, do we know? it can change the item itself, tell u its ruined by removing part of its stats or get a low rol on all rollable. i see those 3 as the brik options. noone knows the % of those 3 options right? 🙂

[fierce ibex]

I'm not sure there are given. But, no matter what are the chances, risk is there.

[dusky chasm]

u gotta gamble innit

[night marten]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/corrupt

tunklabs has a sim, tho there is no confirmation that its 100% accurate

[lapis blaze]

Vast wee shmock
how's the new season? last one i played was the one with the nemesis thingies where you were able to upgrade items if you defeated a boss mulitple times or something, don't remember which one it was.
is there a good bunch of new stuff? worth diving in again?

[night marten]

only if you want to

[distant glen]

is chapter X optional ?

[lapis blaze]

i wouldn't ask if i didn't consider it, just curious if much has changed since season 1 or 2

[dusky chasm]

Its BIG. u cant not play it.

[night marten]

yeah, there has been 2 or 3 seasons worth of mechanics and balance

[summer kraken]

"Graveyard Prisons" weaver tree node is bugged right ? I'm not seeing a single exile mage in my map

[dusky chasm]

we conclude 25% negative outcome?

[lapis blaze]

is endgame still mostly mapping and raising corruption until you can fight a boss?

[dusky chasm]

the weaver nodes add several end game maps u can decide when to do, corruption makes more sense, more bosses to kill on every zone and out of each zone. u gonna enjoy a few hours of it for sure

[night marten]

the 25% seems a little high for what it is

[night marten]

its in #1486744068347269301

[lapis blaze]

kk if endgame is improved i'll definitely reinstall and check 😄 thanks

[ashen vector]

I love how 2h holding looks in this game. What s tier build uses 2h as best in slot

2h melee wep

[south marsh]

Void knight specs

Or be a gigachad and join the Forge Guards and use a 2-hander with one hand and a shield in the other

There's also a mage build that uses 2-handers I think

[granite parrot]

anyone else getting le-63 ?

[umbral bramble]

The fact forged weapons actually seem to have a nice bit of support, they are tempting as a choice of going around with a horde of beat sticks.

Definitely going to be one of my million rerolls this league.

Totally not on my 3rd char already because I like testing interesting gimmicks

[south marsh]

Cute I'm on my 5th cuz I like tempting fate and died

[umbral bramble]

HC though?

[south marsh]

Yeah

[umbral bramble]

SC here because I die due to poor attention span

[south marsh]

I also delete the characters if I die

[fierce ibex]

I played this last season. It was my build for faming. Reached around 600 corruption. Good tankyness. I think this season it is even better ofc, with some lucky corruptions

[umbral bramble]

If I could trust myself not to forget I'm playing, then I'd play HC.

But if I die it's always due to forgetting to make sure I'm safe.

[south marsh]

I don't trust myself with my decision making since I love making stupid decisions for the thrills

But it's fun watching my character explode

[umbral bramble]

May I introduce you to Zombees?

[ancient surge]

Exploding bees?

[south marsh]

I much prefer the skellie-xplosion build

It's so fun watching the skeliie mages going to town

[umbral bramble]

Fairs, I just want as frequent and as large of explosions as possible.

[south marsh]

Yeah spec into skellie explosion + zombies

The zombies spawn on minion death

And you also spawn skellies on zombie deaths

So it's pretty much auto bombing

[umbral bramble]

Bees -> Zombees -> Skele on Zombie death -> Skele Mage eats Skeles

Just gotta stack the bees (and it actually work...)

[south marsh]

I'm currently just having fun with a frost harvest lich

Well not currently since I'm at work

But my current character

[summer kraken]

Any idea when they roll out their patch ?

[south marsh]

Which one

[night marten]

when its ready

[prime fox]

I've heard 25%, yes, for the chance of negative outcome.

That's not the same, of course, as 'undesirable outcome'.

[simple bison]

Patches are usually released on thursdays

[simple bison]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/corrupt

[umbral bramble]

Suddenly tempted to play HC just to have an excuse for my serial rerolling.

[south marsh]

Join the time obliteration gang

Watch as your time gets literally exploded

[prime fox]

If I played HC, I don't think I'd ever play anything except a Paladin. Of course, I'm so death-averse it's hard not to do that anyway...

[south marsh]

I play HC only for the fun of it

I don't really care about the outcome

Altho I did develop an aversion to rift beast whirlwinds

That's a bs skill

[umbral bramble]

Tbh, my chars are usually good at surving... Until I actually got 1 shot when I first hit monos on my first char this league.

Kind of swapped off that one because it went from nuking everything to getting 1 shot, so I thought I'd leave it until I can afford to fix the defenses.

(Yes I'm a noob)

[south marsh]

Dw I'm worse I actually decided to face tank a rift beast dive bomb inside a twister

Cuz I got cocky playing a forge guard

The result was spectacular

[ancient surge]

A sentinel that can die? Say it aint' so! [/s]

[south marsh]

My stupidity overcame the sentinel tankiness

I beat the system

[prime fox]

I'm so tired.

[halcyon fulcrum]

Hey guys just getting back into this game after a long time. What’s the end game content like? Are there dungeons that you spam over and over?

[prime fox]

There is a lot of content you can spam, yes.

[south marsh]

The whole end game is farming like every other arpg but in terms of variety it's acceptable

[ancient surge]

Most of the farming is the echoes still, but the content for that is growing.

[halcyon fulcrum]

Ok awesome

[prime fox]

It's a very typical ARPG experience. For better and for worse.

[south marsh]

That's why I said acceptable it's not enough to keep ppl playing all the time but it's enough for ppl who actually work or do other stuff

[ancient surge]

I'm more of a quality person, so I don't mind the slow growing of content that is kind of hard to call unpolished.

[south marsh]

I just want to play something after work

To relax

[halcyon fulcrum]

I played the game then kinda gave it up the first time around so this time I’m actually full sending it and I forgot this game looks and feels good

[prime fox]

ARPGs is not a genre of game I would play if I want to relax.

[south marsh]

Why not just kick back with the gamepad and farm for an hour

Then do other stuff

[halcyon fulcrum]

Smoking a blunt and playing this game is lowkey kinda fire so far ngl

[prime fox]

If I want to relax, I would play a turn-based game.

And yikes, quite a few assumptions there.

[south marsh]

Jeezus I hate that type of games

I tried playing turn-based games but it gets boring quite fast (for me)

[prime fox]

I believe that's why multiple types of games exist.

[ancient surge]

Damn... I think I found one of the worst echo monster combinations: Both artillery flowers and the elemental shard thigs that fire the fire projectile that hurts badly.

[prime fox]

Those are all fairly slow attacks, yes?

[south marsh]

I hate the frost beetles

[ancient surge]

All it was missing was some rares and maybe thornclaws :p

Yes, slow attacks, but couldn't move an inch without triggering another one.

[prime fox]

So just keep moving and killing them.

[south marsh]

I had a character that died cuz I couldn't move from being frost locked

[ancient surge]

But my loot 🙁

[prime fox]

Kill everything, then go back and loot it.

[ancient surge]

I still finished it, but man... stressful to not be able to take breaks.

[prime fox]

Yeah, I know that feeling. I burned out of Delirium League in PoE1 so fast because I couldn't handle the mirror run every. single. map.

[exotic blade]

after ~200 test corruptions it's pretty close to 75%/25% (yeah it's pretty small pool, I'll do more testing when I have time).
the biggest question is what happens with impossible outcomes like "add experimental affix" on rings. does it just select other positive outcome, or can it go negative?

[prime fox]

I believe that result is removed from the pool before choosing. Which is why you have the 'maximum chance to occur' field.

[south marsh]

On a side note I do believe that the reaper form is the best looking model available to players in the game

[prime fox]

I could be a rectangular prism with no moving parts and probably wouldn't care. But I'm old.

[south marsh]

I mean in just aesthetics alone I love how they designed the model

[prime fox]

It seems like a slightly feminized version of Malthael?

[south marsh]

Yeah I can see it

[exotic blade]

yeah my assumption is also that max chance is to cap chance if some outcomes are removed from the pool.

[prime fox]

Now, that is, yes, a nice base for the model. But I've never gotten a Lich to 'click' with me, so it's hard for me to have an opinion.

[prime fox]

There's also the differentiation between 'negative' and 'undesirable', with the latter being much more subjective.

[south marsh]

I'm the same way with the mage builds

I tried but meh

[prime fox]

Heh, well, given I (for historical reasons) am a Lightning stan, and LB is quite good (though I don't play the 'standard' current build for it), I don't have that issue with Mage. 😉

[night marten]

yeah i dont have a large sample size either, or maybe just mediocre better luck, but i haven't felt like a 25% ruined/regression in items

[prime fox]

Neither have I, Eagle, but I tend not to argue with data. I've had only one corruption where I knew the result was worse. Haven't seen a Ruined one yet.

[south marsh]

I'm so unlucky I feel 50% just get bricked

[night marten]

lol

[prime fox]

Perception of probability has such a filter bias, though...

[severe socket]

Did EHG say anything about any upcoming patches/hotfixes?

[south marsh]

I haven't seen anything official

[night marten]

when its ready, as always. this is exactly why they dont give time frames

[prime fox]

Maybe that's something I can do with my terrible playing ability this season... just collect data on corruptions.

[prime fox]

Existence/intention and timeframe are different, though?

[south marsh]

The intent is there with the known bug list

[prime fox]

Do you think it's a safe assumption that Corruption doesn't rely on level of zone or anything?

[prime fox]

Mmmm... I wouldn't necessarily agree given what I've seen in the software community.

[south marsh]

They wouldn't publicly acknowledge bugs and leave them in the open without the intent to fix em

That's suicidal

They would just turn a blind eye if they did

[prime fox]

That does have some merit, but I've seen worse things from devs.

I'm not saying that they have no intentions... but there's a difference between saying, 'we acknowledge these bugs exist' and 'we are actively working on these known bugs'. To me, at least, a 'known bug list' does not imply the latter, though that's in general. I'm not familiar enough with EHG's practice to know for sure.

[south marsh]

Well my trust in the devs is 2-fold
1 they actually do acknowledge their problems
2 the staff is here in the trenches daily so I can see they care

[prime fox]

I guess I'm a lot more cynical than you. To my detriment, but it's hard to shake at times.

[south marsh]

I place my trust in those I can see tbh

[primal abyss]

Good day Travelers

[south marsh]

Hey

[prime fox]

Speaking of.

[umbral bramble]

You summoned the

[south marsh]

I'd say speak of the devil but it's not Muffin

[prime fox]

I was going to continue with Balthas's line about speaking to Lina, but yeah...

Guh, wrong quote.

[oblique root]

is 314 corruption a good place to sit and farm up my character or should i push a bit higher?

[south marsh]

I just can't remember the last time I've seen actual staff communicate with the player base directly and addressing their issues

It's... Refreshing?

[ancient surge]

Indeed, EHG will put known issues forward since those are the ones they are well aware of and also have an idea of a solution for, you know... much like any sane company would. That is not to say there are plenty more bugs.
Speaking of bugs, bits of the process to fixing a bug is understanding, seeing and preferably reproducing. If we see a bug, we may also want to consider wording the report such that it actually helps the sorting process, since I doubt all bug reports are good information for the dev team.

[south marsh]

I've been trying to replicate a bug I've had where my skills become invisible but my character died

So I gotta level again to try

[primal abyss]

That sounds... very weird

[south marsh]

I can describe it if you want?

[primal abyss]

You can but an in-game report usually helps much more first

[ancient surge]

F8 at that moment where you saw it may have helped more :p

[south marsh]

Yeah I know but my character died and I forgot to report before I hit the delete key

[night marten]

should always go as high as you can before you start feeling push back/danger from the game

[south moat]

Hey there Van

[south marsh]

As for the skills that I had the issue with was aura of decay with the twitch drop skin and the anvil forge strike

[prime fox]

Oh, no, I'm never going to get past Chapter 3 at this rate....

[primal abyss]

Hello nub!

[prime fox]

I have an issue in Offline (because I have a different issue in Online) where mobs are sometimes invisible until a certain time in a zone. And it's always the SAME mobs in a story zone.

[south marsh]

I'll just report it if I see it in-game after I unlock AoD again

[south moat]

Started a new beastmaster today to do something else than bees (because I don't want to salvage the old one)
maelstorm scorpion is neat so far

[south marsh]

Since sending a SS of the missing aura is easier

[south marsh]

Ur going for a zoo?

[umbral bramble]

Just realised I need to ask, do indirect casts of maelstrom still proc on the scorpion, like from Gathering Storm?

[prime fox]

What's the best way to get massive stacks of Gathering Storm?

[south marsh]

Play bury the light and go in

[prime fox]

?

[south marsh]

Oh the joke missed

[summer kraken]

I'm playing cemetereries of renewal and i'm not seeing any Omens or Rift beast. Those don't spawn in woven echoes ?

[south marsh]

There's a song from devil may cry 5

That has the line 'I am the storm that is approaching '

[south moat]

They don't spawn in woven echoes no

[main frigate]

......I forget which question I want to ask you. Remember to stay hydrated

[primal abyss]

What Kalitarq meant was you have to sing "I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING" as loud as you can.

[umbral bramble]

Why did I never look at Scorpion for Synergy with jank zappy builds.

[primal abyss]

Gotta stay with the water

[south marsh]

Except when you are paying electric builds

That's dangerous

Hey here's an idea for a skill throw a toaster into a whirlpool to electrify the enemies

[prime fox]

Sure, but, uh, I was asking a serious question.

[severe socket]

Hiya Van ::)

[primal abyss]

Fair. It's sometimes difficult to ask "Best way to acquire x stacks" simply because there are so many RNG elements to equipment and playstyles. If you're looking for a particular build, it'd be best to check out someone's starting build via maxroll or letools, etc.

Heyas Shadow

[severe socket]

Ever heard of Alpha Crimson Weave?

[primal abyss]

From PGR? Is that from PGR?

[severe socket]

Yep. 🙂 Apparently her lookalike is coming to wuwa soon.

Name's Hiyuki.

[primal abyss]

Oh snap that's exciting then. I'm excited for you haha

[umbral bramble]

No dedicated Scorpion uniques

[south marsh]

Kusogames ruined wuwa for me

[severe socket]

Doubles as the first Glacio unit in AGES since Carlotta. xD

[primal abyss]

Also, Ulthwithian, it might be worth checking in with our primalist folk in #🐺┃primalist discussion

[severe socket]

What happened?

[south marsh]

Where do I start

[severe socket]

Anyways. Should we expect any patches/hotfixes in the coming days? Van, any insight?

[severe socket]

Anywhere is fine. 🙂

I know 3.1 ruined me good xD

[prime fox]

I just wish I was under less stress.

[south marsh]

1 single patch characters with 0 story viability after
2 increasingly predatory monetization
3 powercreep
4 performance issues after that Greek/roman themed zone
5 farm gatekeeping
6 echo RNG
7 gacha

That about sums it up

[devout remnant]

is this game have the same concept that build that have fast clear and tank should have low dmg for bosses if not heavily invest in it?

[south marsh]

Nope some of the strongest builds are also stupidly tanky

[prime fox]

I would hope that there is some kind of balance dynamic in this game.

Similar to the project management triangle.

Tank - Clear- Boss: Choose 2.

[severe socket]

Counterpoints where applicable...

1. 3.x is shaping up quite nicely in that regard. 2.7 also summed the arc pretty good, imo.
2. Haven't noticed anything beyond new cosmetics, but yeah, those price tags are FAT. Good thing I'm f2p.
3. Not as bad as in HSR by a landslide, imo.
4. Septimont was terrible, yeah, but that zone is layered AF, and it's not like Unreal Engine is known for optimization avenues. 🙂 Although Startorch Academy is even worse in that regard.
5. Again, not as bad as in other gachas. So far, only one material is week-gated.
6. Agreed f--tiple percent on this one.
7. Same as 6, but it can be ignored if you don't endgame-haunt.

[south marsh]

That would remove solo play

[prime fox]

Not at all. It's all a matter of what you're willing to tolerate.

[weak radish]

5 days without fixing broken tornado node.. 🙁 RIP swarmblades

[prime fox]

I'm not saying that a build that has S-tier tankiness and clear should be F-tier on bosses.

Or can't even do them.

[south marsh]

Yeah but if you noticed I never compared wuwa to other games I just said the company ruined my view of the game

[prime fox]

But, to give a PoE analogue, RF is very good at clear and is very tanky, but not very good at single-target (i.e., bossing). So IF you're good enough at knowing boss mechanics, it's still very doable, and the tankiness helps offset some mistakes, but there are builds that can global bosses but aren't the best for clear.

[severe socket]

Noted. Sorry. 🙂

[prime fox]

That's all I'm saying here.

[south marsh]

I am fully aware that wuwa is fundamentally an amazing game but I dislike the way it's going

[severe socket]

Eh, I've seen worse.

[primal abyss]

Fair. Also, feel free to drop your thoughts in #feedback

[severe socket]

Will do.

Van, you still haven't answered my question. - #💬┃general message

[south marsh]

I can see your logic but that logic exists in current LE if you don't follow a guide but craft your own build

[upper kelp]

Hi, new Player here. Does Aberroth needs an eye after every try, or is it possible to practice the fight?

[prime fox]

Sure. I didn't say it didn't exist. I only said that I hope it exists.

[severe socket]

The former IIRC.

[primal abyss]

I cannot give you and exact details on the when but with the team back in office this week, we're investigating reports, bugs, etc to tackle just keep an eye out for info via #news

[main frigate]

need an eye per try

[severe socket]

Thanks. Please keep us posted.

[south marsh]

Yeah I like the idea of equivalent exchange (yes I'm a FMA fan) so I agree with you

[primal abyss]

Of course 🫡

[south marsh]

I've also seen worse but my bar is not lowered since they make so much money I expect better

[severe socket]

Following someone else's guide ❌
Experimenting on your own ✅
(imo anyway; applies to fun factor)

[south marsh]

I love making my build then looking at other builds and educating myself with gear and skill interaction

[severe socket]

We'll see how it goes in the future. So far, the storyline is great. Plus they got a "Three-Body Problem" author on board as a consultant recently, which, ideally, should improve things going forward story-wise.

[prime fox]

My builds generally fail horribly. Not a good feeling, or conducive to wanting to play.

[jade swan]

LMFAO FCK THIS TRASH CARTOONY GAME!! I got permanently banned for telling them to fix their PoS game in a bug report because the game runs like sht when you get to the last chapter

This game DESERVED to fail the way it did and it will CONTINUE to fail. Don’t have the player numbers to be banning people who had the game since early access anyway XE

XD

[severe socket]

↑ TEMPER TANTRUM ALERT

[south marsh]

Mad lad

[upper kelp]

Ty

[wild badge]

followed by
doing literally no dmg ✅
(at least for me)

[severe socket]

Boy, is that person hella triggered. 😂 I recognize myself in my worse days.

[jade swan]

Na I’m good. I have PLENTY of MUCH BETTER games!! XD

[south marsh]

We do occasionally get these little one-liners don't we

[umbral bramble]

You know if you throw your food on the floor in a McDonalds because the fries are too salty, you'd probably get banned from McDonalds.

[jade swan]

Keep supporting snowflakes like EHG… I mean whoever they sold out too. I’m going back to crimson desert now. Have fun playing Diablo 3 2.0!!!

[severe socket]

I mean, I can't blame the devs (any devs, in fact) to trash-bin this kind of "feedback" without even glancing at it. 🙂

[south marsh]

I mean emotional maturity is a rarity these days

[severe socket]

Like, bruh, I used to develop a small piece of niche software back in the day, so I can at least tell good feedback from bad one 🙂

Besides, reminder: I'm an actual father to a 5yo torpedo of a son 🙂

Can't be anything but as emotionally stable as physically possible.

Because you lead by example.

CONSTANTLY.

[umbral bramble]

Torpedo
Suddenly feel like I can imagine exactly what you're dealing with.

[south marsh]

Yeah you have the stability of a seasoned veteran I give you that

[severe socket]

Precisely. 😄

[night marten]

if you feel you must talk, lets keep it civil.

[prime fox]

Civility seems to be the last thing on their mind.

[near horizon]

should I continue empowering an item after it got 1lp on the nemesis egg

or can it go away

[south marsh]

Eagles used sensible talk

[severe socket]

About as rare as common sense these days. 🙂

[weak radish]

No one remembers a coward, keep the rng rollin'

[severe socket]

(sadly)

I always max out any nemesis I come across, if just to spite myself.

Like, whatchagonnado. Besides, LP can only either stay as is or go up.

[prime fox]

Common sense is in no way common, and I don't mean by that widespread. I mean that there is no longer agreement even on what it is.

If I Empower, I always Empower all the way.

[umbral bramble]

The problem with common sense, is people forget that you're meant to teach it.

It's common because everyone was being taught it.

[prime fox]

I can get behind that statement.

[umbral bramble]

Common sense to not put metal in a toaster, but only because you were told at a young age not to do it.

[prime fox]

I'm not sure people forgot, but that the fracture occurred as to what sense is, and then different people got taught different things were sensible, and thus the cracks widened.

As one example, virtually no one younger than me that I've asked has read Aesop's Fables.

[umbral bramble]

No idea

[prime fox]

?

[ancient surge]

I was distracted and missed a loud closing of a door?

[umbral bramble]

As in saying I've never heard of it.

[prime fox]

blinks Oh wow.

[wild badge]

i m kinda sad that my build is already wet noodles at 400corr 😔

[prime fox]

I've never gotten really past 120 Corruption or so. I either can't handle it or I get bored. So from many people's perspectives here, I haven't even played the game.

[ancient surge]

Is it fully invested, final form et all?

[umbral bramble]

Sounds like playing glass cannon builds on HC might be a good excuse for you.

[prime fox]

Ugh.

I really don't like playing HC when another option exists in the game.

[ancient surge]

Yeah, HC is for tanky builds and people who can actually pay attention while playing.

[wild badge]

i got the core parts and all, and most stats i could get on top now wont do that much i feel

[severe socket]

For once I'm not late on a drama, as short-lived as it was 😄

[ancient surge]

Depends on what "core parts" means. Base uniques are good and all, but the slams are what push builds to higher levels. Multi-LP too.

[wild badge]

Core Parts in terms of the unqiue with a favorable slam and even hitting the corrupted affixes on them

[severe socket]

Here's a brainstorm idea for you: imagine being able to corrupt Veteran's Boots.

[steep river]

That's fine, you can play the game however you want to. If you ever feel like going higher, there's some quest chains with the Harbingers that lead you to 300 Corruption and regular Aberrorth boss fight.

[prime fox]

It's so... difficult to follow builds sometimes.

[severe socket]

I can only shudder trying to imagine the sheer wtfrandom these boots would cause.

[prime fox]

Sure. But it's not like it's all that interesting to me. What I think I can say is that the hamster wheel gets too apparent once I get to Empowered Monoliths, and most of my motivation for playing just dies at that point.

[ancient surge]

Posted something in #👑┃item-showcase for you.

[halcyon sky]

I feel like the harbinger quest chain, maxing out weaver tree etc are pretty good goals (which ends you up to like 300 corruption + normal abby), but after that i would agree somewhat

After that i think uber abby is kind of an unreachable goal for many people, but it's always there if you want it

[cosmic smelt]

Is it intended that set items cant be corrupted?

[ancient surge]

You mean can

Unless they changed that since... yesterday?

[prime fox]

I dunno... something about the builds is that as you start to stack more and more multipliers, smaller and smaller aspects of a character become more and more relevant and subject to 'optimization', until it's exhausting to think that you could get a substantial improvement by nudging a number just a little higher.

[night marten]

yes you cannot add affixes to them

[ancient surge]

One of the core aspects of good builds is synergy. The more synergy the build has, the more likely it will go far.

[thorn bane]

Welcome to arpgs?

Idk about you but that's the whole point I play arpg, minmax

[south marsh]

I play for fun not to be optimal

[umbral bramble]

Feels weird that a Scorpion node needs a Shaman Skill to fully benefit.

[thorn bane]

Here's your gold star lol 😆

[prime fox]

Yeah, which is probably why I won't be playing them much anymore. Which is sad as I am a 25-year veteran of the genre, but at some point it's just... kinda pointless.

[ancient surge]

We all play for our own fun, mixmaxxing is fun for some

[thorn bane]

This ^

[south marsh]

If I wanna minmax I play satisfactory

[ancient surge]

Hot take: There's only so much you can even do with the core concept of an arpg.

[prime fox]

Did you see that the most-used Shaman skills are... not Shaman skills? Like, the top 5 skills are IIRC basic Primalist skills or Spriggan form, I think. That's... concerning.

[ancient surge]

In the end the perfection of sphere/circle and crab cannot be avoided.

[prime fox]

How is that in any way a hot take? 😉

[ancient surge]

Shaman as a class is one of the most left-behind ones.

[prime fox]

Even though they try so hard with it.

[teal egret]

I need to get off work so I can play

[umbral bramble]

Tbh I haven't looked at shaman that much, the other two options are just far more interesting to work with.

Maybe Shaman should be one of the next to get a major rework?

[south marsh]

I need to get off work

[prime fox]

It's already had 2 in the last 3 patches, IIRC?

[ancient surge]

Shaman is one of the last classes without a 4th skill. I'd call that a sign :p

[steep river]

Yeah no worries, play however you want and have fun

[prime fox]

So is Paladin, no? Don't think this is a good argument.

[teal egret]

Just glad I start early so I can end early. I get in at 5a

[south marsh]

I'm 8-4:30 so basically 15 more mins

[prime fox]

I'm nothing to never, so I have very different anxieties.

[ancient surge]

Shaman, Paladin and Bladedancer are the 3 ones with no 4th skill. The sign is that these (sub)classes have not seen a rework yet.

[south marsh]

It took me a hot minute to actually comprehend what you said

[prime fox]

Bladedancer literally got a rework this patch, no? Perhaps you and I mean different things by 'rework'.

[ancient surge]

The passives of the classes can still be good, since LE does not exactly power creep.

[severe socket]

Even normal abby is WILDLY out of reach for me 😄

Let alone uber 😄

[prime fox]

Shaman needs better passives than the totem resistance thing.

Or they need to remove the duration on Storm Totem (with possibly other changes).

[south marsh]

Ur fighting the child ubers every day tho

Oh wow my Roomba just sent me an SOS I guess I forgot to close the door again

[prime fox]

I really want Shaman to be good. I think its schtick (melding attacks and spells) could be good, but I feel that there's too much going on and so it lacks focus and coherence.

[severe socket]

Fair, lol 😄