💬┃general

[main frigate]

But he can enjoy deathknight

[half dawn]

people still epoching? 😮

[obtuse bay]

epoching soon

[main frigate]

EHG must earn money to run so they must attract people to play

New gameplay is learnt, time to spoiler new changes for builds 👀

[half dawn]

just checking for pulse because i havent had the time to play for a while

waiting for the next season so i can merchants guild again 🙁 ALL THESE DAMN COF BOYS

[strange umbra]

Ohhhh can't wait to play season 4 🙂 the new skeletal mage death knight changes are going to be a blast

[main frigate]

I hope someone can tell me have burning daggers got some love in 1.4

[zenith pewter]

same with shadow dagger

[strange umbra]

[wispy cobalt]

Cosmetics being removed everytime I play and exit the game still not fixed yet? Its getting very annoying having to equip them again and again.

[rocky niche]

Gotta see Marksman too

[silent pivot]

I'm mostly hoping for bug fixes 🤣

and more interesting endgame gameplay loops

[zenith pewter]

your saved files are corrupted, try this, it worked for me: https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1rbp5w5/cosmetics_dont_save/

[silent pivot]

alternatively you can just wait 9 days, since we know it's fixed in season 4

[wispy cobalt]

Thank you, got quicker help from a player than actual game support.

[coarse swallow]

Colours were part of the setup for the Kickstarter roles, which makes it harder for us to assign colours for future roles.

Though I apologize that I don't entirely see this as a negative. I personally appreciate showing appreciation for those that supported us for when we were nothing more than a reddit thread with an idea. Currently, I don't have any plans to allow name colours to those other than the established roles.

[main frigate]

I have no idea why it's a hard thing to do. Kickstarter roles and EHG roles can keep these colours but use gradiant colours. New roles can use normal colours but low saturation with icons.

Saturation can be a good difference.

[simple bison]

Would still take away from it imo. Although I have a different colour so I guess I can't comment on it objectively

[main frigate]

No idea which colours should use? Just pick colours which kickstarter roles are using, then down the saturation, ok it's a new colour.

[simple bison]

The point isn't really that it would be the same colour. Currently pretty much nobody has a colour outside of ehg members, moderation, content creators and lastly early supporters. What colour someone has isn't very important, it's the fact that they have a colour at all that's supposed to signify something

[main frigate]

CM have trouble on recognizing colours? They can ask art team for help

I don't know why they don't want to build an advanced version of colour hierarchy

The problem you mentioned can be solved by using gradient colours

[silent pivot]

I was going to post something entirely different, but after actually reading the Kickstarter page I'm confused. I don't see name colors mentioned anywhere, lol. Is that just considered an extension of the "Forum Title and Badge" or am I blind?

Custom Role Icons feel like a more logical extension of that than colors, personally.

[coarse swallow]

As Cyborg mentioned, it's neither a technical limitation, nor a systematic limitation. We certainly could use more colours. Discord even allows a colour wheel. Rather, allowing assigning a colour represents a level of appreciation and distinct honor towards those who brought us to where we are today.

We use colours in discord as a form of respect for those that support us. So it doesn't feel right to give out coloured names for other reasons, as it diminishes that respect and prestiege given to those willing to put their money, or in the case of content creators, livelihood, on the line to believe in, and support us from the very beginning.

[main frigate]

How to show respect and appreciation to players whose support EHG in a early time? Give them exclsuive colours on roles. Yes I get that, it's why I mentioned gradient colours is a good way to keep them looks special.

Normal players never will over than them on the status, I know

[silent pivot]

Simple workaround: get hired at EHG specifically for the cool Discord role color.

[coarse swallow]

You're correct that we don't list giving a colour in discord as a kickstarter bonus. We could very well assign addition colours as we did with the beesfriends to show moderator status and not touch upon any promise.

However, even as we have to change policies to continue creating the next iteration of LE, we still want to preserve what kickstarter support and appreciation that we can. Discord colours may seem like an extremely insignificant part of that, but it's something that we continue to have to hold onto, and provide. And i'll let go of kickstarter appreciation as quickly as I'll let go of my own blood, haha.

[half dawn]

everyone excited to play forge boy again? :3

[main frigate]

EHG think they can't change current colour hierarchy because it will lose the honour and the appreciation for early supporters.
I think EHG still can do that but in a different way.

No idea how to go on.

[coarse swallow]

I know two team members that have already bookmarked Forgeguard as their starting build for Season 4

[half dawn]

forge is my go to as a starter

every season lol

[silent pivot]

I'm leaning towards Void Knight or Paladin, depending on what certain bug fixes end up happening (or not happening).

[coarse swallow]

I won't even hide it. We recently featured a FG minion build, and that thing, even SSF is straight up broken, and not getting nerfed, haha.

[half dawn]

SHHH KAIN FFS

[simple bison]

What are you playing? Paladin?

Or are we spreading our wings

[coarse swallow]

I'm going to be rocking the bees. Y'all don't even know yet.

[simple bison]

Because I sure ain't lmao

Kain is threatening violence upon me :d

[coarse swallow]

Haha, I apologize, that is not my intent

[half dawn]

its my go to because i hit that merchants guild every season >_>
honestly, wish trade just became a normal thing because when the population dwindles there's like 6 of us that trade only

guys, got a new cat bed for that demon in my pfp, she's chillin in it under the desk right now. super cute.

[silent pivot]

I'm hoping for some CoF buffs TBH, or at least minor QoL adjustments. I really don't vibe with trading, like.. at all. 😂

[muted cape]

EZ

[half dawn]

CoF dominates the player base unfortunately.

[coarse swallow]

We'll have a post regarding QoL adjustments in Hype Week 🙂

[simple bison]

CoF superiority

[muted cape]

yep cof ftw

[coarse swallow]

Agreed

[simple bison]

We gotta balance out muffins MG energy

[half dawn]

No MG love 🙁

[muted cape]

i'll let the trade andys figure out the market while I get triple the loot

[simple bison]

Tbf at the end of the day they'll likely have the better gear, but I'll have my sanity lul

[half dawn]

I just stack my tokens and flex in the mirror, because there's no one else to flex the favor on

[zenith pewter]

does this mean bees build buffs? 👀

[strange umbra]

MG for life 🙂

[coarse swallow]

Oh man, so much I want to say. But I'll stop at I successfully killed Ubberoth with nothing but bees.

[strange umbra]

https://tenor.com/bAVdt.gif

[simple bison]

Me and bankai were stinging him like crazy fr

[half dawn]

this will be the first season I have the time to push all through endgame. ;-; finally about to finish my degree

[zenith pewter]

i wish the updated the bee gloves, to on hit instead of melee hit, spriggan form can't melee hit D:

[half dawn]

then im gonna hound EHG to see if they need graphic designers lmao

[coarse swallow]

In my own personal opinion as an 8k+ hour player, not as an EHG player, this is the season of Unique item reworks, and bees, based on what I want to build.

[half dawn]

UI/UX emphasis

[coarse swallow]

I don't think we're specifically looking for a UI designer at the moment, but we're always open to talent: https://job-boards.greenhouse.io/eleventhhourgames

That said in relation, we'lll also have a senior UI designer as a guest for questions on this friday's dev stream.

[muted cape]

is this real life?

[zenith pewter]

nice wooooo, so many uniques have awesome effects but lackluster, can't wait to see all of them

[muted cape]

i'm trash at this game lol

cant even kill ubber with my own summons

[half dawn]

real question, is there any plans for modding in the future? outside of filters, there's not a single ARPG with moddable UIs

[muted cape]

potential mouse skins maybe 🙂

[zenith pewter]

i spent 800k cof favor this ss to farm for 2 7 bees idols, but the build can only do normal abby 🥲

[coarse swallow]

I won't say ubberoth was a particularly fast kill with my build, but it happened, and I don't underestimate the community. You all collectively are far, far smarter than I. I'm excited to see what you all come up with regarding bees, and the unique item changes in general.

[carmine smelt]

This is a bee kill with 1.4 changes? or in 1.3

[coarse swallow]

1.4 - Season 4

[carmine smelt]

Damn, you've been beesy

[zenith pewter]

bye mage, bye rogue, imma start with druid

[simple bison]

I wish I could speak. One more week 🥹

[half dawn]

sword and board forgeguard for the aesthetic

[muted cape]

took me 8 years but here we are! no longer a meme 😮

[coarse swallow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/chris-pratt-andy-dwyer-2

[strange umbra]

[muted cape]

infect the game with bees

[carmine smelt]

Same, I need to keep my secrets to myself in case there are nerfs 👀

[muted cape]

more bee love everywhere

[muted cape]

you got minion lover right, but mg bant!

[half dawn]

we play MG as a handicap to flex on the poors

[coarse swallow]

I want to preface everything regarding builds I play: I played a pacifist charcter before thorns got all sorts of unique items, and had a 2.5 hour lagon (campaign) kill. I'm willing to put in the mechanical endurance to make a meme happen.

[carmine smelt]

"handicap", meanwhile you can buy 2LP RRs in MG xd

[half dawn]

:^)

[simple bison]

Reminds me of the legendary Lagon kill Mike once had on a primalist

[strange umbra]

my take has always been MG > CoF (but thats just me) - less loot sure but a lot more of what drops can impact my build by selling it and buying what I need 🙂

[simple bison]

Was like half the stream lmao

[muted cape]

kain a real one like coffee and misha rofl god gamers

[strange umbra]

totally get people love the loot-splosion dopamine

lol

[muted cape]

meanwhile i'm happy just farming normal abby :d

[half dawn]

MG is about community. If i wanted loot explosions id play di--- ugh,, diablo 4

[simple bison]

Okay I checked and it was only 13 minutes

[half dawn]

🤢

[simple bison]

But gah damn did it feel like forever at the time x)

[coarse swallow]

Haha, for the lagon kill, I was watching an tv series while my character just stood there on the second monitor.

[carmine smelt]

Yea MG is definitely "better" if played optimally, but "optimally" means you really need to fully utilize your loot filter for high value items which a lot of people don't do

[strange umbra]

my background is game econ - its in my blood after 13yrs (and counting) working on a WoW Auctino House addon

lol

[half dawn]

skill issue

[muted cape]

wow you were playing one of "those" kind of builds.

[coarse swallow]

MG is more powerful, CoF is more fun, from my extremely biased perspective.

[simple bison]

Imagine being slower at Lagon than clone mage 😔
https://youtu.be/d10gV6gLNwQ?is=tPcqMXO5qjqK4Dxv

[strange umbra]

psh there is communities for that - easy sauce lol

[muted cape]

it's ok i played reflect shaman LOL

who didnt? lol

[simple bison]

It may be biased but it's also based

[strange umbra]

lol I think MG is way more fun - but I am also biased 😛

[carmine smelt]

TSM isn't "optimal", whenever anyone is just copying the same filter by definition it can't be "optimal"

its definitely better than nothing though

[strange umbra]

agree to disagree 😉

[half dawn]

when you find a niche build that can power through things and find out the gear is extremely cheap in MG 👌

[strange umbra]

people copy strats filters or guides or even profiles from my WoW addon all the time - but that is always just Step 1

[muted cape]

maybe we get third faction next year

[coarse swallow]

That's a blast from the past, I remember mirror mage, hahaha. I still once in a while push to the team that it should be a thing. Though after runemaster we decided Mage should be a class without traditional "minions" as they're an option everywhere else.

[strange umbra]

there is alot more to making money in MG than a good loot filter

[carmine smelt]

Note to self; Buy items BEFORE making build guide 👍

[simple bison]

Honestly filtering for MG isn't all that bad. A lot of things you'd have on an ssf filter that's not for a specific build or class will sell, some just slower than others and for less but they'll still be worth selling

[carmine smelt]

I mean not really, SSF filter is just your items, MG is like, mana idols, ES idols, WP idols, LB idols, etc.

the affix filters are so annoying

[simple bison]

Well I meant it more how you'd filter back in like 0.9. you'd show any potentially useful item

[half dawn]

did we ever get more info on that DLC class? Or is that way in the future?

[simple bison]

Basically just show all T7's and multi exalts of affixes that could conceivably be wanted by some build

Someone somewhere is playing some weird build that needs it lol

[coarse swallow]

I don't have any new information to share for Paradox classes, other than that they will be a unique experience from traditional classes.

[strange umbra]

plus with the new search filters coming to the Bazaar in 1.4 - its going to be a lot easier to sell/buy RoH targets

[coarse swallow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/genie-zipped-mouth

[muted cape]

anyone ready to customize their loot filters like a music dj?

[fading drift]

So what’s everyone up to next week?

[half dawn]

i just hope they are balanced, but would pay $5 for meme machine.

[simple bison]

Shattering enemies

[strange umbra]

they were teased on stream 😛

[coarse swallow]

QoL improvements are Thursday =p

[simple bison]

What's today then :0

[strange umbra]

they were shown on Mike's stream weeks ago

(the bazaar stuff I mean)

[muted cape]

what's tmrw?

[strange umbra]

Wednesday

[coarse swallow]

fine, fine.

[muted cape]

11 hours exactly right?

[simple bison]

Not exactly

[muted cape]

derrick was insane timing it at 8am yesterday holy

[half dawn]

if late we riot.

[carmine smelt]

Yea I agree, the exalts aren't so bad since mostly focusing on T7 / Multi T7 which is kinda not that common so you don't need to sort through that many items, but idols are all 1 tier / 1 tier with various roll values and different combos of affixes that you need to individually filter 😅

I struggle with the idol affix part for MG filters

[simple bison]

Okay yeah idols are a massive pain true lol

[coarse swallow]

Tomorrow is all about ballet.

[fading drift]

Filter? I barely know her!

[muted cape]

ballet? new skill confirmed got it.

[simple bison]

Oh right the new rogue skills

[half dawn]

ballerina new paradox class confirmed.

[coarse swallow]

No, not a new skill, cutting that off at the stem, haha.

[strange umbra]

rofl

[muted cape]

🥀

[coarse swallow]

not a new unnanounced skill anyways,

[muted cape]

so.. i'm off the next 4 days then work next 4 then off next 4 starting on launch day thursaday, and I did not plan my schedule like that what so ever

but we grinding at midnight anyways

[coarse swallow]

As a wise man once said "Ain't no rest for the wicked"!

[muted cape]

sleep is for the weak

[simple bison]

I'm a little tempted to race to 100 again

[muted cape]

said every software engineer

[muted cape]

not allowed if im leveling primalist and u leveling mage lol

ur just gonna level with glacier anyways zzzz

[simple bison]

To be fair there are separated leaderboards :P

Nah I level with shatter strike who do you take me for

And even before then I sometimes just use ele nova instead of glacier. But yeah usually glacier until I get mastery

[muted cape]

try thorn totem till mastery lol

[simple bison]

Might do lb or something this time around, not like it really matters

[muted cape]

50% slower

[simple bison]

Getting to 20 takes like an hour

Actually way less

Getting to 100 takes like 20-35 hours x)

Took us a little over 30 hours when we raced

[muted cape]

I go abom until I get exp blessing, but just hope i hit it first try.

[simple bison]

Solo falconer is the fastest (surprising nobody)

[muted cape]

I forgot how long it took me to level 100 last season

it was super quick lol

[simple bison]

Not less than 30 hours :P

Unless you meant this season

(3)

[muted cape]

all I know is I leveled with summon bear while I was watching youtube and then later glaring menacingly at all my enemies with my conquerers haki

[coarse swallow]

Well, I think I've released enough "authorized by me-only" teasers tonight. Have a good night all! (we're still watching for moderation though, so beehave yourselves 👀 )

[muted cape]

see you in the morning i'll be here for a bit

[willow sentinel]

Kain burning the midnight oil

Good morning travelers

10h18 min to the next post

[ancient surge]

I would note that the more recent replies in this chat are suspiciously staff and moderators. Well, I'm ready for my timeout. (And mind that I am fully joking here)

[willow sentinel]

Changes to skills is what I am the more interested in

[coarse swallow]

We're always here, so when it gets quieter, we just stand out more, haha.

[ancient surge]

Top of the morning!

[willow sentinel]

But I am scared it wont tell us more than what we know already

B hole buffs, fire Aura buffs, shadow rend and bladestorm

[ancient surge]

I stay neutral until patch notes, in that I don't go wild without a full picture. Anything prior is enticement.

[lucid herald]

tbh i think it might be spellblade season for me this time

[ancient surge]

Maybe because I'm conditioned to GGG's ways, which literally meant you cannot get excided until the full patch notes detailing all the nerfs :p

[lucid herald]

its the only major class ive never played

[coarse swallow]

As the one who does patch notes: One last 'teaser' before I run away (I know, I know) that wouldn't come during hype week, so I'm free to tease. We've been taking bugs very seriously - in the patch notes, the bugfix list is two responses long.

[lucid herald]

and so if fire aura flame reave spellblade is a viable playstyle ill be happy

[ancient surge]

And that is why I keep coming back. The focus on quality.

[lucid herald]

sweet, if the gap between seasons is gonna be 6 months then id hope there's huge amounts of bugfixes and performance improvements where possible. nothing is more frustrating than running into the same bug multiple patches in a row

[silent pivot]

fingers crossed for blade paladin in vengeance finally working properly with conversions

it's been "fixed" at least twice since season 3 launched IIRC and is still mega bugged

[carmine smelt]

Do we need another 32 hour stream?

[coarse swallow]

We recently did a survey to gather info on bugs that have been around for multiple patches, but it's something we continue to keep an active focus on. Once the patch notes come around on Friday, if you see anything still unaddressed, please create a forum post in the bug reports to let us know. We will be looking.

[simple bison]

X)

[silent pivot]

or whatever the heck is going on with quicksand and cycle of decay in anomaly 💀

[muted cape]

u missed it lol

unless you scroll up!

[coarse swallow]

I'm probably going to be in trouble for the teasers tonight, yes. But that's a tomorrow me problem.

[carmine smelt]

I need the full skill details so I can put it in my spreadsheet PoB 👀

[muted cape]

I got your back bro just say it was cyborg again

[coarse swallow]

tomorrow me is always such a sucker.

[silent pivot]

"the bees made me do it"

[muted cape]

eexactbee!

[strange umbra]

Kain After Dark Best Kain

[coarse swallow]

We're planning many community manager streams, one of which idea is a more... aged/late-night stream. If players are interested in that kind of stream, let us know.

[dull topaz]

I might be because your night time might actually be when I'm awake here, lol

[muted cape]

YES 100%

[coarse swallow]

(By that, I mean a more relaxed, less "professional" stream for clarity)

[muted cape]

that would defintley be a very nicew addition to le

get a beer relax and kick back after work

[ancient surge]

Ideal time window to tease on the streaming staff and coax information?

[muted cape]

no, that's for mikes streams 🙂

coaxing information espeecially!

[ancient surge]

Admittedly, us europeans may not even be awake for most EHG streaming.

[simple bison]

Usually starts at 10 pm and ends at midnight for me

[strange umbra]

I need to start streaming again on my personal account

maybe ill do some for Season 4

I used to do it all the time back when I worked for Twitch (by proxy)

still have my green screen and everything lol

maybe ill become a Muffin VTuber

[muted cape]

first vtuber i'd watch forever

[willow sentinel]

[strange umbra]

but the mystique would be gone - you already know what i look like

lmao

[muted cape]

I dont actually never looked

I only remember what mike and judd look like too rofl

[strange umbra]

@muted cape failed to watch dev streams - I am so disappointed

smh

[muted cape]

OHH that was u?

face palm

[strange umbra]

was the guy named Muffin me?

hmmm

[muted cape]

u were the special guest LOL

[strange umbra]

lmfao yes for ep 200

[muted cape]

thought it was the mechanic or something

[strange umbra]

I was doing all the data queries live for people

[silent pivot]

I watched and tbh muffin is still a muffin wearing a green suit, top hat, monocle, and bow tie in my mind

[strange umbra]

lol

[silent pivot]

it's too iconic

[strange umbra]

ill rotate tomorrow - ive only had this one a couple days foir St Patricks Day

I have so many muffin avatars

one for almost every holiday and tons of others

[muted cape]

ok yeah now you are full time streamer now the curse is on u

[strange umbra]

my latest a pirate

all of my WoW tank muffins I have as tattoos

[muted cape]

then after mike it will be kain joining you on stream.

[strange umbra]

fun times

[muted cape]

sick. I know someone who has a spriggan tatoo lol

[strange umbra]

also have my Epoch tattoo, and a D&D/Pride/Dice sword

and of course a

but the epoch tatto was fun

[muted cape]

i'm too scared to get a tatoo nope!

[strange umbra]

I thought it would be way more painful - I was legit nervous

its on the top of my hand

[coarse swallow]

Haha, I apologize to disappoint, but for reasons you wont ever see me on stream, sorry.

[strange umbra]

Kain is going to be a Bee VTuber

lol

[muted cape]

bee tuber it is! see kain, muffin is 5head i.q

[strange umbra]

lol

[primal bough]

just use the The Entomancer from Slay the spire 2

as a png

[willow sentinel]

Kain has an Interpol red notice for Grole trafficking

He has to stay hidden

[ancient surge]

Tattoos, I gather are not that painful if the artist is good. But make sure to never regret the tattoo, for removing them is... let's not mention the pain levels. And mind that I have no tattoos, I just heard some stories.

[primal bough]

yeah Ive been told its like having hot oil on you for about 15 minutes

[waxen sparrow]

All these new runes just simply tells me it's going to be COF meta again

[simple bison]

It's only one new rune

In yesterdays post at least

[ancient surge]

Well, MG may as well not even exist, since player-driven markets suffer from the player factor. There's always someone who keeps looking for exploits, finds them, makes them public and then a bunch of the users of the system adopt it and the whole market aspect of the thing collapses.

[simple bison]

It was fine last season tbf

[ancient surge]

Well, if EHG managed to actually regulate the thing enough that it's not explotable, well... My repsect.

[severe socket]

...yeeeeeaaaaaah, no thanks, not touching gear corruption. Ever.

Those attribute conversions are just insanity.

[ionic vale]

woah

WOAH

WOAHHHHHH

WOAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[ornate siren]

high risk higher rewards ! 🤫

[frank bramble]

Why not, craft a 777 of your dreams and then ruin it with one rune, what can go wrong?

[severe socket]

As if I hadn't enough of that tish way back in Path of Excel...

[frank bramble]

If the slamming process was straightforward w/o RNG and just needed an exalt then okay, I can corrupt the gear, otherwise no sorry

[severe socket]

I still have zero hype about the patch, but damn, is it letting me down huge mukin time already.

[frank bramble]

+1

My friend just told me sword catcher is apparently getting nerfed, pure cinema

[severe socket]

Streamline affixes so that there's less bloat? Flatline gear RNG so that there's actually more incentive to craft and experiment? Freaking fix/rework skills so that they actually make sense? HECK NAH, LET'S GO GAMBLIN'!

[willow sentinel]

Idk, I feel li'e corrupting might be fun
But we don't farm the same type of gear

[severe socket]

I can't...

[frank bramble]

RNG for the win, consume boys

Corrupting fun? For 1lps maybe okay

[willow sentinel]

I am going to have a lot of 1lp t7

[frank bramble]

2lp and beyond no way

[willow sentinel]

See, that's why I said we don't farm the same gear

😁

I can't be arsed to farm 2lp t7 or more

But 1lp t7 and gamba

Count me in

[frank bramble]

I'm sorry, no offense to you but if the game is being targeted at single t7 users and no one else then say goodbye to player retention

[silent pivot]

tbh the scenario I'm imagining using rune of corruption is basically one where, I have a lot of similar copies of an item already
rune of corruption gives me a new option to potentially turn those items into upgrades, outside of the classic farsight turtle / nemesis / julra loop

[willow sentinel]

Did I say the game was aimed at player like me?

[severe socket]

At this point I don't even understand whom the game is targeting anymore.

[stark frost]

Eh. This seems like an odd observation to make.

[severe socket]

Like who's the actual demographic.

[frank bramble]

Did I say it is?

[severe socket]

It's not making any sense anymore.

[frank bramble]

I just said IF

[undone wave]

Me. I'm the target demographic

[severe socket]

Among other things, parry is STILL as freaking obsolete as it can ever be.

[willow sentinel]

Yes, only you🐐

[severe socket]

What's even the point of it being there to begin with, I wonder.

[frank bramble]

Parry? Memes

[willow sentinel]

Also, not sure I agree

[stark frost]

I think there's plenty going for it that allows 1-3 week casual players and also 2-3 month hardcore players. Especially when considering more than one character.

[willow sentinel]

What if you felt good with your 1lp gear corrupted and wanted to make another character

And another

That's what keeps me playing throughout a season

[frank bramble]

Depends on how many people share your approach

[stark frost]

I wasn't there for season 3 for irl reasons but season 2 I sunk well over 300h in

Season 4 seems to add more endgame content to it such as that pinnacle boss and also an extra layer of item improvements, and a cute way to improve your idols and the board.

Like, I see myself play for another 300h np...

[willow sentinel]

1. I could return you the argument
   How many people share your approach of going for 4xt7 imprint troves spam for the whole season?
   From my anecdotal evidence of me being in a few discord, I could probably name you as much 1lp enjoyers builds spamming people as 4xt7 troves spamming ones

2. We are amongst the last players of the season, but with different method

[frank bramble]

Then all i can have is envy that those people still find fun in something like that

Because I naturally seek gear progression

Single t7s are like a few days of work

And me from a few discords as well haven't found a single person that enjoyed farming up to single t7 and rerolling

[silent pivot]

I mean, as per muffin 2 days ago only 6.7% of players have killed normal aberroth (and <1% for uber).. a decent number of people are probably rerolling or quitting the season entirely before they even reach 1x t7 in every slot based on that lol

[frank bramble]

Also those 4x7 farmers don't only farm those items for themselves, we share those with each other so we can show people who allegedly think that single t7 is enough that you can go above and beyond that

[willow sentinel]

You found me 👉👈

[frank bramble]

Call yourself #1 then

[frank bramble]

I'd like to see then how many of those rerolling-all-the-time people play till the end of the season

Cuz all i see is the same people on global and they are all dedicated people or people who we are about to enlighten with possibilities

[pulsar carbon]

I'm curious to see what experimental builds I can get away with season 4. I gave up trying to push past 150 corruption on so many builds just because the damage fell off hard and fast. I ended up giving in and made a reflect Druid just to do ridiculous crap like fighting Abberoth

[frank bramble]

Of course I'm taking this fact into account that not many people talk on global but still you get the point

[frank bramble]

Exactly, how many builds can you try rolling with single t7s? The list isn't that long

Unless you go 100 corruption and call it a day

[willow sentinel]

It's kinda insane how it seems to bother you that someone might enjoy the game in a different way

[frank bramble]

Did I say it bothers me? I just don't want to be the victim of stupid nerfs

Stop implying that I don't like the fact someone likes playing the game in a different way

[pulsar carbon]

@frank bramble It's really not. I love how versatile and creative you can be in LE, but let's not kid ourselves that many builds can even hit 200 corruption. I have to check the leaderboards most of the time to get a good idea of what I have to copy to push further versus homebrew.

[frank bramble]

I want everyone to enjoy LE as much as possible so it grows

[silent pivot]

I've gotta disagree with that statement TBH, I'm reasonably confident that a LOT more builds than you think can reach 300-500 corruption, even with 1x t7 gear as the limit

[frank bramble]

But if we focus on one group of players only and punish those who are trying harder for their builds to be good then good luck

[pulsar carbon]

I don't even think the game is easy, I just think the difficulty spikes happen too early

[willow sentinel]

Just this season I did what? 5-8 builds ,and even managed to kill Uber

[simple bison]

Pretty much every skill in the game can do 500c with 1lp slammed gear

[frank bramble]

We will see about that in 1.4

[silent pivot]

like the number of builds Dr3ad pushed zero-to-hero and killed aberroth in 12 hours or less is insane

[pulsar carbon]

Playing Reflect Druid and copying whatever was top of the leaderboard opened my eyes to how much content I was missing in the end game versus all the homebrews

[simple bison]

(Yes I'm aware there exists some meme skills that can't)

[silent pivot]

and he plays completely random nonsense trash builds for that frequently

[willow sentinel]

You want to "enlighten" people

[frank bramble]

And?

Yes, enlighten as in showing what more they can do

[willow sentinel]

So your view is better

Than what they enjoy

[simple bison]

But if you don't say something troll like teleport I feel like there's a 90%+ chance it can do 500c if not 1000c with mostly 1lp slams (maybe 2lp if the lpl is low)

[willow sentinel]

Show them your ways are better

[frank bramble]

No, enlighten as in showing that they can do something they might think is not possible

[pulsar carbon]

I genuinely should make a list of all the builds I've made videos of and how many actually made it past just 150 corruption

[silent pivot]

most of the time, in my experience at least, the problem isn't that "random homebrew build #2358" can't do 500 corruption or whatever

it's that the player doing the homebrewing is just winging it and playing based on vibes, not math

[simple bison]

Yep

[silent pivot]

I play with 2 very good friends of mine and they are 100% vibe gamers that would struggle hard to get past like, 300c without math help

[simple bison]

It's harder to stumble on to a decent build on a non meta skill

[frank bramble]

Check the definition of a word enlighten if you may

[silent pivot]

has nothing to do with the skills or classes being undertuned, it's just a difference in how you approach the game

[frank bramble]

There are multiple

[pulsar carbon]

Seems like even with all maxed resists, a couple thousand armor, and decent healing and separate DR isn't enough for a lot of builds. Any build with a shield I tend to be able to push a bit further

[frank bramble]

But you ofc assumed mine has to be making others' choices inferior so it fits your theory

[willow sentinel]

It seems that I misread your intentions, and I am sorry

[pulsar carbon]

I agree, I've had to learn over the years how to approach homebrewing to account for how to keep defenses and offenses up, but sometimes it just doesn't work out 🥲

[simple bison]

Tbh capped resistances and some armour is bare minimum for empowered in general yeah. You do usually need a fairly hefty extra layer

Or just tons of damage / range

[pulsar carbon]

Yeah, empowered is the bane of my existence 🤣

[simple bison]

It's fine. You'll improve the more you play until one day you look back and see how far you've come. I remember my first build was abysmal lmao

[frank bramble]

No problem, just don't judge too fast, I'm open to debate but I think I never said someone's stance is worse than mine, it's just imo people might just be thinking that they cannot progress beyond a certain level and that's what I meant

[simple bison]

It's actually the same skill I play today, but instead of barely doing maybe 200 corruption or something I can do well over 1000 corruption and even beat Uber Abby with it

And while some of it is attributable to power creep I was doing 1k corruption even back in 0.9

[pulsar carbon]

Okay so looking at my list of build videos. Erasing Strike, Flame Reave, Melee Lich, Avalanche Shaman, and Valor Falconer all made it past 150 corruption
Soul Feast Warlock, Poison Multi shot, Nova Runemaster, Glacier Mage, and Poison Druid did not.

You'd think I'd learn after 1,000 hours

There's a few other builds here and there and countless more I didn't make videos of, but the split generally seems to be 50/50

[simple bison]

Honestly playing and learning in an arpg can be very different activities

I've easily spent more time reading, learning and theory crafting LE than actually playing it

[silent pivot]

the easiest way to avoid the flop builds is just to do the math beforehand, at least for me

if I see a build I'm interested in caps out at 1/10th the damage I'm hoping for even with perfect gear, I know that's probably not going to be a fun time

[simple bison]

Actually maybe not double, but close

[pulsar carbon]

I'm under the impression I should be able to experiment more given the new toys and tools we're getting

[simple bison]

I guess it depends what you'd count, are we learning about LE right now? :P

[pulsar carbon]

I learned not to ignore armor, probably the first defensive thing I learned after seeing my characters getting obliterated at max resistances lol

[simple bison]

But like for example I fairly recently learned that warpath is made up of two skills, and the way it functions behind the scenes is actually really different from pretty much every other skill in the game

[pulsar carbon]

The armor thing was like 400 hours ago lol

[simple bison]

To be fair depending on your build you kinda can ignore armour

But for most yeah it's likely not a good idea

[silent pivot]

I actually have a build planned where I'm essentially ignoring health (it's not a ward build btw) lol

because it gets tons of endurance threshold, and block effectiveness ends up being WAY better for scaling EHP

[simple bison]

I've made a build that's pretty much as close to immortal as you can reasonably get up to around 500 corruption or so, the clear is fairly ass though lul

[silent pivot]

casually walking around with ~2.4K health and 50K+ EHP

[simple bison]

But you can pull an entire echo, harbingers, exiled mages and all and stand still tanking all the echoes mobs combined

But the build I usually play can almost get one shot by a white maggot at the corruption I play x)

[silent pivot]

I hate playing squishy builds

[pulsar carbon]

I guess it's just been frustrating to learn after spending this much time across pre-season and 3 seasons and still not having the skills to push any given skill to 200+ corruption like many others have told me, like yourself Cyborgwars and Lothrik

[silent pivot]

learned that at release when I played a falconer and was totally reliant on silver shrouds

[pulsar carbon]

Rogue defenses suck. Idc what anyone says. Those rogue teasers were a godsend

[simple bison]

This is an old clip but I'm pretty much just as squishy nowadays

[silent pivot]

or whenever falconer was added, I forget

[pulsar carbon]

Falconer was 1.0 iirc

[simple bison]

Yep

[silent pivot]

I also nearly went blind playing that build

I have a clip saved somewhere

[simple bison]

Explosion ballista?

Fun times

[silent pivot]

found the clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cI_5qvuL2s

video is a bit washed out, I think I had HDR enabled or something

[simple bison]

Yea classic

Think it's still the most prominent mid season fix they've done

(it was bugged)

[pulsar carbon]

Skills I'd like to push this season is probably Hungering Souls, Meteor, Shadow Cascade, Shield Throw, and Werebear.

[silent pivot]

stopped playing at level 92 because I just couldn't deal with it lol

dying on bosses and needing sunglasses to play

[pulsar carbon]

Understandable

[simple bison]

That's so diverse lol. I pretty much only play mage and majority of my time is on a single build

[silent pivot]

"just dodge the mechanic" -> what mechanic I can't see everything is white

[pulsar carbon]

I'm an altaholic

[simple bison]

But I know I'm not the norm

I'm the opposite of an altaholic in arpg's

[pulsar carbon]

I suppose that does screw me in some ways because it means pushing corruption is harder for me since I'm not always farming top gear even for alts, since I have to spend time leveling the others

[simple bison]

Why not set a goal for the build like killing aberroth or reaching a certain corruption or something before switching?

[pulsar carbon]

I made about 15-20 characters each in season 0, 1, and 2. Only made about 8 in S3. Planning on doing 5-10 in S4...

[simple bison]

Heh Ive made 4 characters since 1.0 on retail

[pulsar carbon]

I did that basically in S3 with Reflect Druid

It did help a bit since I could pass down Harbinger gear and what not

Which I couldn't do barely at all in the previous seasons when I didn't netbuild

The skill system in this game is crack. I just can't help but want to try to build in every direction in every skill tree. Like when I tried and got disappointed by Poison Multishot 😂 😭

[undone wave]

DoT in general feels like its in a weak spot right now

[pulsar carbon]

Every time I have tried poison damage for a build that supports it I have been disappointed. I can't even say it's a skill issue because it literally pushes worse than all my other dozens of experiments

[silent pivot]

giving my second monitor the side eye with two DoT builds open right now

[pulsar carbon]

Tell me your secrets

[silent pivot]

time rot shield throw void knight (currently strong build) and vengeance ignite paladin (fire resistance stacking, fingers crossed blade paladin actually works as intended in season 4)

[pulsar carbon]

Both sound fantastic honestly. Time Rot is probably best DoT in the game. Ignite seems to work if you have something nuts like that fire res passive available

[south moat]

What we really need is a car transformation in the game
So I can blast eurobeat while playing

[zenith pewter]

we need romance options tho

[undone wave]

shield rush ferrari microtransaction

[silent pivot]

for poison specifically I think it's just in a bad place

there might be something decent on warlock or whatever with poison overload

[south moat]

People would want to romance Julra

[pulsar carbon]

The base DoT dmg for poison needs to be higher, straight up

The negative poison res it gives just doesn't feel like it does enough against mobs

Even after stacking as much +dot damage, +poison damage gear as possible

[pulsar carbon]

What's the girl's name from the Keepers camp in the beginning of the game??

[south moat]

Yeah, I remember when I stacked like 1000 poison stacks as a warlock
and it still didn't feel like the dmg was good enough

[silent pivot]

in season 3 ailment builds tend to lag behind non-ailment builds, outside of a few heavily-optimized scenarios where they start to compete; at least in my experience

hopefully that changes in season 4

[south moat]

Yeena

oh wait no that was the poe npc

[pulsar carbon]

I think there were a couple blade master poison/bleed teases and I thought to myself, "well yeah if the base damage of the ailment isn't ass"

[zenith pewter]

Lena i think

[south moat]

Well both end in na so close enough
have to go & check though

[zenith pewter]

it's Leena but close enough 😁

[south moat]

Leena, yeah

[pulsar carbon]

Leena, my beloved

So many characters from chapter 1 are just never seen again

[south moat]

She's also no longer in the camp

[zenith pewter]

do you think Leena is the oracle in the rising lake?

[silent pivot]

be the change you want to see in the world (literally, you're the only one with a time travel device)

[pulsar carbon]

||I still believe Balthus eventually becomes the Immortal Emperor believing he'll be a better deterrent of the void than the four gods|| @willow sentinel

[zenith pewter]

she did regconized me when we talked and mention about that time travel event with Balthas

[pulsar carbon]

I'll give the lore writers this, time travel shenanigans can be fun when you introduce the same character but changed and with a different name. Like how Kang the Conquerer in Marvel is also King Tut, Nathaniel Richards, Victor Timely, etc.

[zenith pewter]

mmm those notes in last refuge in ruin era says Balthas was the first elder and he passed down the info about a traveler with an epoch shard will come, i think he died long ago...

[pulsar carbon]

Yes, but those notes are in the void era which is the last before end of time, he could have written those beforehand or just leaving out his plans. He mentions he be finally able to do something with the Epoch before we get sent to chapter 2 and the void for the first time.

Not to mention of the three pieces at that point, one is in the possession of the voided out emperor 🤨

[zenith pewter]

wait nice catch, the void emperor that we fought in Eterra temple? :0

[pulsar carbon]

Yes, who says a bunch of things about regret and Eterra when we enter

By the time we face him and his lieutenants in the Immortal Era, he still thinks turning everyone into immortal undead will stop the void and learns the hard way later obv

[zenith pewter]

but isn't Balthas's shard remained in the last refuge?

[ancient surge]

Does that imply he never traveled?

We get yeeted to the ruined era with 2 fragments.

[zenith pewter]

yeah 1 we collect at first, and 1 in the settlement

[pulsar carbon]

iirc one fragment is a free bingo space as soon as we hit Ch. 2, one is with the voided emperor, and I don't remember the last one, been a hot minute

[ancient surge]

Wait, wait, I got it wrong...

We get 2nd fragmet from emperor, no?

[zenith pewter]

no?

[pulsar carbon]

Possible used the shard to at least jump to a spot or two in time with what power the shard had left to enact his find out how to make everyone skeletons plan

[ancient surge]

Chapter 1 is about securing that one shard in the sanctum during the divine era, right? Balthas uses THAT shard to yeet himself and us to the ruined era.

Bleh, memory too hazy for this discussion, disregard me.

[zenith pewter]

i remember reading about it somewhere, in Divine era, the 3 shards locations are, 1 in eterra temple, 1 in the keeper vault and 1 in keeper's hand always on the move

[zenith pewter]

yeah we always have 1 shard from the keepers, then we retrived 1 more shard from the vault, with 2 Balthas can time travel partly, which dropped us randomly at ruined era

[ancient surge]

Makes sense now. So yeah, we get yeeted by 2 fragments and nab the 3rd off of the void emperor at the end of chapter 3.

[pulsar carbon]

I think so, voided emperor has the last one, that's the basis of Chapter 3
Beaten

Either way ||Balthus is the Emperor||

[ancient surge]

Always confused me when we pick up something when getting into that part of the story. We get yeeted by 2 and find 1 on the ground, no?

[zenith pewter]

yeah i was confused when i saw the void emperor in the temple, in early version of the game, it's not the emperor that we fought

[pulsar carbon]

"I am sorry Leena, and I am sorry to you too... Now with the Epoch, I'll finally be able to-"

[ancient surge]

Well, of course. I ALWAYS forget about panion...

And how he's the boss with the 2nd fragment

[pulsar carbon]

Ah bingo!

Yeah now I remember, that allows us to get to End of Time for the first time

1 with us, 1 with Elder Pannion, and 1 with Voided Emperor

[zenith pewter]

no, we picked up 1, 1 is in the last refuge, shining in the middle of the town, then an elder Panion took it to fight the void, we killed corrupted version of him and retrived the 2nd shard, with 2 shards, we travelled to the end of time era...

[ancient surge]

So early in the story that we get carried away by the rest of the story, eh?

[pulsar carbon]

If the lore writers were reading our conversation they'd be geeking out there are people who care about the lore a bit like me for LE

[ancient surge]

Look, paying proper attention is for regular people, mkay?

[zenith pewter]

xD

yeah most people don't care about the lore, but i love it

[pulsar carbon]

The latest chapters imply we might be the bad guy because all of this happens because of us messing with time, therefore a paradox

[latent parrot]

Have the patch notes been released?

[ancient surge]

I tried to care, but I am clinically understimulative ADHD. I literally get micro-bored during an interesting discussion...

[ancient surge]

Friday

[pulsar carbon]

Nope, few more days I believe

[zenith pewter]

partly, full patch in Mar 20th

[latent parrot]

Thanks!

[pulsar carbon]

Seems like Eterra and her brother may have been part of a previous universe and were given or born with the power to jump into the "next" universe and create the world and all that. Orobyss thinks his sister keeps screwing up and it's imperfect and wants to try again

[ancient surge]

Act 10 expanded upon that

[pulsar carbon]

They are part of another race of beings that are in stasis in Eterras temple

[zenith pewter]

mmm isn't it because of orobyss influence? he said no matter what we choose, we'll always end up with him

[ancient surge]

Eterra created the gods of the Divine area.

Orobyss is the Observer, which we get to see at the very end of Act 10.

[zenith pewter]

yeah

[ancient surge]

And just how his future self gets back to his "ancient era" self.

[pulsar carbon]

It might be a bit of a paradox in itself, because we have to fight him to stop him from wiping stuff

[ancient surge]

He cannot be killed, Eterra sacrifices herself to imprison him to give you time.

[pulsar carbon]

I think there's a prime Orobyss who keeps corrupting his past selves in different timelines

By sending us

[ancient surge]

Apophis was the carrier of future orobyss's will.

[pulsar carbon]

Or she doesn't want to kill him

[zenith pewter]

nah he's sending Apophis to show the Observer the ruined future to start the corruption

[ancient surge]

Sure, but nothing outside of a god can kill orobyss is what is implied.

[pulsar carbon]

And by proxy, us

[ancient surge]

Well, that is the most literal way of putting it, sure :p

[pulsar carbon]

EHG has said the Orobyss expansion will wrap up the story. Or rather everything tied to Orobyss

[ancient surge]

Whether future orobyss is malicious or just trying to warn his ancient self, well.. got lost in the translation.

[zenith pewter]

yeah

[zenith pewter]

yeah 2 more chapters to wrap things up, can't wait to see how things unfold

[pulsar carbon]

Probably just a loop that got started by the first one, he saw imperfections, turned to then void to use it to wipe out timelines, wants to let his past selves know about how ugly the world is to him, and the cycle starts. And we help the cycle continue without our full knowledge because we haven't walked the walk yet.

[ancient surge]

Brings the question of what is the void in this universe, really. I can also call upon the Divinity series which, though its own story and means, explores a similar thing: What makes a god an actual god in a universe where magic is real and powerful.

And how that can be corrupted.

[pulsar carbon]

My guess is we'll probably go back to End of Time and speak with Forgotten Knight and Gaspar about options

For the next chapter

[ancient surge]

I ain't guessing nothing, because making this kind of a story cohesive is well beyond my capabilities :p

[pulsar carbon]

Technically the loop is complete now that Apophis and us have corrupted the Observer of our current universe/timeline. The question is how to prevent everything in chapters 1-9 from happening? Do we go back to when Orobyss corrupts Rahyeh? That seems to be the first instance, because nothing happens really in Ancient Era with void besides caging the Observer

[zenith pewter]

i guess it will have something to do with Apophis, like when did Orobyss reach out to her, we travel there to prevent it or something

[pulsar carbon]

Paradoxical shenanigans everywhere

[ancient surge]

Well, Apophis calls you traveller and is unsurprised about your presence at the end of Act 9.

Kinda implies she knows you.

[zenith pewter]

she was informed by Orobyss

[pulsar carbon]

Because Apophis was warned by Orobyss

Albeit, seems like prime Orobyss wanted you to find Apophis so Chapter 10 could happen

[zenith pewter]

He wants her to stop us before we can reach to the temple in ancient era

she said "it would have been nice if we died with Majasa"

[pulsar carbon]

I like to think the universe we are in is being observed by a prime Orobyss from outside it, that is seeing the broader loops happening

[ancient surge]

Right, ok. So, Apophis was informed and set on a path, while you follow this path that connects with hers predictably, because of course orobyss knows the past.

[zenith pewter]

mmm i think Orobyss is from one of the timeline, and he wants to overwhelm all other timelines

[ancient surge]

This is a weird one, since the Observer had been resetting timelines for Eterra before we even met him.

[pulsar carbon]

"There's always a bigger fish"

[pulsar carbon]

I mean when we meet the Observer, "our" Orobyss is still operating, hence the paradox

[ancient surge]

We have no "Ancient era" timeline as a whole. So far, we can infer that anything after that event where we and Apophis reach the Observer is dynamic.

[pulsar carbon]

True, there is a ton of blank space between Ancient Era and Divine Era.

[ancient surge]

We also had very little of Ancient era itself. We only have our interference at the end of the temple of eterra. (i.e. it crashing from the sky)

[pulsar carbon]

We are still not 100% sure when and why Orobyss decided to corrupt Rahyeh

[zenith pewter]

huh? Rayeah was not corrupted

[ancient surge]

Rayeh in our timeline was never corrupted

Black sun is one of the alternate ones.

[zenith pewter]

yeah

[ancient surge]

Rayeh got overly ambitious.

[pulsar carbon]

Oh that's right, I forgot his reason for starting the war is to grab the Epoch

[ancient surge]

As was his nature which could permit it.

[pulsar carbon]

I've fought Black Sun so many times I forgot that's not ours 😂

[zenith pewter]

all monoliths are alternative timelines

[ancient surge]

By the by, abby ties the story together, funnily enough. His few lines are key points that never change:
Eterra always "leaves" the timeline. The Gods always fight eachother. Humans go on to form the immortal empire and the void wins at the end.

[pulsar carbon]

Yup, Abberoth feels like something that would take place sometime after Chapter 9-10

[ancient surge]

We are still 2 chapters away from the conclusion of the orobyss story.

Rather, 2 more chapters are planned and the end of it will be the conclusion of this story.

[pulsar carbon]

That prime Orobyss fight better be lit 🔥

[zenith pewter]

man fighting uber abby is tough enough, now we have to fight his boss 🥲

[pulsar carbon]

If we kill Orobyss and the void, my guess is the next major plot will involve the race in stasis that suffered the "calamity" that Eterra mentioned she and her brother survived along with the stasis folks

[ancient surge]

By that point, maybe gear power creep changes things?

[pulsar carbon]

Campaign boss, should be a cake walk by comparison

[ancient surge]

Or, and hear me out, we beat campaign orobyss with help and then face orobyss... prime? in the monolith on his own terms?

[pulsar carbon]

Uber Orobyss

Also, we still haven't taken the lance back to stab the emperor 😭

[zenith pewter]

normal Abby at 300c so i guess normal Orobyss is at 500c?

[zenith pewter]

yeah where is the lance? is it still with us?

[pulsar carbon]

I think what's his face has it

[zenith pewter]

we do have it when we killed Majasa

[severe socket]

Yes, we should still have it.

[zenith pewter]

right

[severe socket]

It's never been said explicitly about what happened to it after Majasa, so it's safe to say that it's still there with us.

[ancient surge]

It being a big lance, I have to ask... who's holding it for us? :p

[pulsar carbon]

Zerrick

[zenith pewter]

so i wonder what killed Rahyeh, coz he can only be killed with the lance right?

[ancient surge]

We got the lance for the immortal emperor. (i.e. murder him)

[pulsar carbon]

Took me way too long to figure out the two guys you fight at the same time in Immortal Era at the emperor throne is the ship captain that takes you to Lagons island and Zerrick the guy who helps you with Majasa 😭

[severe socket]

A million dollar question, considering a whole ahh armory we carry with us like constantly. :3

[ancient surge]

We were taking it with us (us being player, yulia and whatshisface)

Then we got to the palace, we get in by ourselves and face apophis get taken to ancient era.

If the lance was not with us during the majasa fight, it was with our companions.

[pulsar carbon]

Considering how messed up the Immortal and Ruined Eras are, anything could've killed Rahyeh at that point, could've been us but we haven't had that chapter yet I guess, or it might not be necessarily with our involvement

[zenith pewter]

no the lance was there when we killed Majasa, we got her blessing, which is her blood

[ancient surge]

Fair enough. Then I guess the pocket dimension pocket is the answer, as ShadowDweller pointed out.

[pulsar carbon]

Yulia is probably holding onto it, but not long enough to become an undead

[zenith pewter]

one will need the lance to kill him, that will answer for what happened to the lance

[ancient surge]

The lance itself... was it even a regular sized, but special lance, or was it... even physical? Is it like a laser pointer?

[zenith pewter]

it's a physical lance, you could see it pierced Moditas back then 😄

[ancient surge]

Looked a bit like ice to me.

[pulsar carbon]

It's a physical lance that stopped Morditas. Which btw will be a Season 5 theme...

Seems like LEs version of Wrath of the Lich King will happen in S5

[zenith pewter]

haha

i see the resemblance, Orobyss is Murozond

[ancient surge]

But I'll take your word for it, it was a full-sized lance then. Pocket dimension pocket it is.

[pulsar carbon]

Do we know if S4 will have Chapter 11?

[zenith pewter]

no

[pulsar carbon]

Bummer

[ancient surge]

Rayeh, well... rayeh only kills one of the gods, we kill Majasa, but there's still good old Lagon left behind. once we leave the era again.

Both of them die in due time, if we consider the abby line.

[pulsar carbon]

Lagon just doesn't seem to give a crap and is full of himself,

[ancient surge]

Just how? no clue.

[pulsar carbon]

Oh they all do, it's implied the Emperor killed at least one of them iirc and then he gets voided and his era ends too

[zenith pewter]

eh you didn't listen to his dialogs, did ya xD

[pulsar carbon]

It all leads to the void

[ancient surge]

The gods tore our world apart, they deserved their fate?

[pulsar carbon]

I'm still not sure why Majasa is the only one that needs people to sacrifice to stay alive, where the other three seem to just be normally immortal

[zenith pewter]

no the ones during campaign

[severe socket]

Ever watched Tangled?

Same deal essentially.

[zenith pewter]

he didn't care about Rahyeh killed Heorot, he said Majasa is next and laughed hehehe

[pulsar carbon]

Eterra and Heorot seem to be the only "good" gods

[severe socket]

Lagon is full of his betentacled self because he's sure that all the water he dwells in will prove to be a challenge for Rahyeh to evaporate.

[ancient surge]

Eterra is a benevolent god of life, as it were.

As opposed to Nurgle.

[zenith pewter]

eh did you talk to Apophis after the ancient era?

[pulsar carbon]

No I had the dialogue bug that skipped everything except the final line

[zenith pewter]

try again and she will explain

[pulsar carbon]

I think they fixed that but haven't replayed Chapter 10 ||because I don't care about the all attributes all that much||

[ancient surge]

Eterra's lines in ACT 10 imply that the 4 gods are kind of aspects of a whole.

[zenith pewter]

yeah they represent something

[pulsar carbon]

Yeah during the statue fight?

[ancient surge]

mhm

They have a virtue and a detractor that can lead them to destruction.

[pulsar carbon]

Chapter 10 really left more questions than answers

[severe socket]

EHG really pushing LE to be a typical live-service game, huh...

What with withholding the remaining story chapters and all...

[pulsar carbon]

I mean they left the door open enough to go in other directions after Orobyss is finished so no worries imo

[severe socket]

Filler patch after filler patch after filler patch. Sigh.

[ancient surge]

Onee second... where is abberoth in campaign?

[short vessel]

Not

[ancient surge]

Or, atteroth

[pulsar carbon]

If anything time travel stories are hard to get right and they want to take their time with campaign stuff. I remember people being pretty impressed with Chapter 10 on release, especially visually

[zenith pewter]

you can only see his victims during campaign

those victims could be us :0

[ancient surge]

So, the whole nemmy mechanic, yes?

[zenith pewter]

yeah

[pulsar carbon]

Abberoth is implied to look like the Observer but just purple, larger, and with spooky tentacles and stuff

[short vessel]

We may meet him and his sister pre-end of time in future story chapters but atm they don't exist in the campaign

[short vessel]

Er

[ancient surge]

Ok, but you (Coffin) said abby makes some statements during the campaign?

[short vessel]

You're getting mixed up lol

[pulsar carbon]

I know he is the Observer cook lol

[short vessel]

No no

Abby is a different character

You're thinking orobyss

[pulsar carbon]

He narrates a good chunk of it if not all

[short vessel]

No that's orobyss

[pulsar carbon]

Oh yeah no Abberoth completely different dude

[zenith pewter]

i meant during the normal abby questline xD

[ancient surge]

I am now confused

[pulsar carbon]

I do get Abberoth and Orobyss mixed up occasionally. Nomenclature is hard

[zenith pewter]

no lol, this is for the Lagon

[willow sentinel]

Pretty sure it comes with LEO

[ancient surge]

confusion full circle, yeah.

[short vessel]

Orobyss is the character narrating through and appearing in campaign. Abberoth is atm a purely endgame presence

[pulsar carbon]

All the lore you get about Abberoth is basically just from the Harbingers, Abberoth himself, and his sister the Forgotten Knight (who has a name that I forgot, ironic)

[ancient surge]

Well it was rather that I was mentioning that 2 of the gods die without our direct intervention. But we KNOW they died because abbertoth implies as much during his fight.

[zenith pewter]

Her name is Jenifer or somwthing

[pulsar carbon]

Now that I think about it, killing Abberoth is probably one of the most impactful things we've done that likely isn't a part of the cycle which makes sense since it's not tied to the campaign

[short vessel]

I don't think we're done with fighting gods in the campaign just yet...

[ancient surge]

All the timelines have a select few constants and abberoth only appears post-campaign. So far, means he's a unique entity that may have existed in one timeline or something that ended up becoming the first harbinger of orobyss.

For all we know, we could be abby :p

[pulsar carbon]

Right and since we're "outside" of time, there are likely no other Abberoths

[ancient surge]

The 2 planned chapters are not out yet, so anything (almost literally) could be the case.

[pulsar carbon]

Oh and before I forget The Weaver has a hand in all this, but we quite don't know what yet

[zenith pewter]

talk about the weaver

[ancient surge]

Eterra and the Observer are lesser gods, as per act 10 impications.

So, yeah... who the heck knows what higher gods there can be?

[pulsar carbon]

iirc Masque believes she is the one who helped get the cycle into place and she absorbs lost time from other timelines to help facilitate the prime timeline. Don't quote me though I didn't pay attention to the Weaver lore nearly as much. Chaos and all that

[short vessel]

Well we still gotta grab heorot's lance from grael after he or more likely us and him kill rayeh

[pulsar carbon]

Thank you, Grael is whatshisface

[ancient surge]

We just went through it earlier: the lance is in our pocket dimension pocket.

[short vessel]

It isn't, we gave it to grael

[ancient surge]

We had it fighting majasa, no?

[zenith pewter]

no?

[ancient surge]

We were alone in the temple, as it were.

[short vessel]

Oh shit yeah

Sorry

Derp

[ancient surge]

Made the same mistake earlier, you have my written, uh... comiseration?

[pulsar carbon]

Isn't there a cutscene with Grael holding the lance?

[short vessel]

But what we do need is rayeh's blessing on it

[ancient surge]

When we first get it

[short vessel]

Or w/e it's called

[zenith pewter]

isn't it after we retrieved the lance and started our adventure?

[pulsar carbon]

So he just hands it back to us?

[ancient surge]

Beats me, we know we have it for the blessing of lagon and majasa parts.

[short vessel]

Idk

Lore not my strong suite

[pulsar carbon]

It's go to Morditas, kill big tree guy, get the lance, Grael holding lance in cutscene before going to the docks

[ancient surge]

Unless wireless blessings work in this universe?

[pulsar carbon]

See this is why I was confused a bit about the lance talk because I swore we gave it to Grael

[zenith pewter]

nah Lagon smeared his blood on the lance

[ancient surge]

Techically blessings are generally wireless, so I am at a loss as to when touching an object to bless it became a thing...

[muted cape]

Wheres our loremaster title people at?

[ancient surge]

Yes, we need education.

[muted cape]

Theres like 50 of you out there!

[zenith pewter]

they're busy hunting lore

[ancient surge]

Maybe a flowchart to go with it.

[dusk tinsel]

few more days for patch 😮

[heady night]

6 HOURS TILL SHADOW GANG RISES!

[pulsar carbon]

There are dozens of us, dozens!!

[muted cape]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/1-1-lore-hunt-event-winners/73104

Ahh I remember now

[pulsar carbon]

Hey I'll just say I really didn't care about the story for a long time, but after playing the campaign a billion times making alts I paid attention and it's a nice Chrono Trigger homage

[zenith pewter]

oh it's Toast the lore master

[willow sentinel]

Most likely its blood should do the trick 😅

[short vessel]

Worked once before

[willow sentinel]

Majasa "blessing"

[pulsar carbon]

It's funny we really haven't resolved the whole lance into the emperor deal

[muted cape]

6 years later yep!

[pulsar carbon]

I'm also really curious if they will take the "we were the bad guys all along angle" and we're trying to atone

[willow sentinel]

Who the emperor is? Is the billion dollar question

[zenith pewter]

i'm not the bad guy D:

[pulsar carbon]

B a l t h u s

[willow sentinel]

Balthas? Isn't that the old guy?

[ancient surge]

Yes

Our keeper

[pulsar carbon]

Yeah, we had a big discussion about it earlier been my theory for a long time

[willow sentinel]

He goes from divine era straight to Void era and die there

[zenith pewter]

Danz has a theory, he explained it earlier

[willow sentinel]

No way he is the emperor

[zenith pewter]

i said the same

[ancient surge]

Can't say I payed full and proper attention myself, but void emperor is emperor from immortal timeline, no?

[willow sentinel]

Void emperor?

The remain of the emperor you mean?

[zenith pewter]

the one you fought in eterra temple

[ancient surge]

right, yes.

[willow sentinel]

Thats the immortal emperor corrupted, or what's left of him

[zenith pewter]

but why was he here with a shard

[muted cape]

I still miss omen of silence 😭

[ancient surge]

Right, we were talking about the fragments of the epoch and how he holds one and how the fragments were meant to be distributed.

How we get the full epoch from balthas being brave and yeeting us to ruined, we pick up one shard, the 2nd is panion and the 3rd is emperor remains

Balthas yeeted us with 2, so how come 1 of them is on the emperor remains?

[pulsar carbon]

For some reason I can't quote myself from earlier in the channel but my theory goes like this:
Balthas says he finally has the Epoch at the end of ch1 and wants to do something with it. When he apologizes in advance to Leena and us, the Epoch gets shattered into three pieces as we get thrown to the void for the first time and then we have one for free, the other with Pannion, and the final with the Emperor's Remains. The Emperor is Balthus who wanted to turn humanity immortal therefore undead, to help stop the void, or so he believed. By the time we reach the Emperor's Remains he shows regret for what he has done and asks Eterra for forgiveness. Might even be the same VA

[ancient surge]

The panion one makes sense, since it was the one from the shelter

You can, but discord does not automatically let you reply to yourself, it's in the more options.

same VA does not imply same character, mind.

[willow sentinel]

There are lore bits where balthas explain (as a human voice) he arrived "before" when everything was already getting corrupted

And he help mankind survive the corruption

[ancient surge]

That one can get... odd... Corruption starts during the divine era with Apophis, no?

[pulsar carbon]

Could be he has enough juice in the Epoch piece to go to void era and then back, he does want to help humanity after all

[ancient surge]

Or he was yeeted to someplace else in time.

[pulsar carbon]

I can't think of any other already named characters the Emperor could be

It's the one that lines up the most and the time travel shenanigans definitely leave the door open for it

[ancient surge]

Yes, and it kind of adds up. I never paid any real attention to the imperial emperor, if he really wants to prevent the void, though.

[pulsar carbon]

This all started for me because of that final line in chapter one

"I'm sorry Leena, and I'm sorry to you too. With the Epoch, I'll finally be able to-"

[ancient surge]

To be fair, it's only the most stragithforward explanation for emperor's remains having a shard.

There could me more to it, but hey...

There is always the option that balthas ran into emperor somewhere before us, died and his shard remained with the emperor / emperor's remains

[pulsar carbon]

True, and it could've been random as well, just a bit of a boring answer, since we're not sure how Pannion got his, but him having one seems far less consequential

[ancient surge]

Coffin already mentioned: the shelter

[pulsar carbon]

Oh right

[ancient surge]

I think it's even stuck above the waypoint

Until panion grabs it

But hey, change blindness...

[pulsar carbon]

This just makes me hope they clean up the campaign after they finally finish it. Just polishing it further and making some lore inconsistencies clearer and tying stuff up. Time travel stories are never truly easy

[ancient surge]

Now, I can't call them inconsistencies, really. There's a lot and my one brain can't handle it all.

They may just be missing fragments of a whole story. Which is still due.

I'd argue that when the full story is actually delivered, that is when we can start talking about plot holes and inconsistencies, really.

[pulsar carbon]

Makes me wonder what lore bits are gonna be added with Shattered Omens, especially since it's adding more Weaver stuff. Rift Beasts were just "Monster that can time travel!!"

[ancient surge]

Heck, "story so far" is too much for me at any one time. And there's more than just LE's lore on my mind at present. At any given point, really, but hey?

I am very mechanically oriented and I know the story has to make sense in relation to the mechanics. That brings 2 approaches: The lore demanded it, or the lore was written to incorporate it.

Mind that mechanic is a generic term, so you can have a sort of cause and effect chain where the lore demands a mechanic that requires another mechanic to make sense, but that other mechanic needs lore to support it.

Games are way more complex than just a story.

[pulsar carbon]

I've gotta hop off for now, best lore conversation I've had in quite a while lads 👍

[ancient surge]

Take care!

[ancient surge]

I remember something about that, but 1.1 I was still way more focused on learning the game mechanics through a build than taking in the sights and shapes of maps and whatnot. Didn't engage on the basis of how easily distractable I always am.

[rose blaze]

what was the update for today?

[willow sentinel]

In game update?

[worn harbor]

What's the point getting transmogs if they are removed when changing zone or logout?, scam!

[willow sentinel]

#💬┃general message

It's a bug

This should fix it

[night marten]

The most recent update was the new packs in the shop

[vivid portal]

I’m betting g today’s update will be the new skills

[willow sentinel]

Indeed

[vivid portal]

Haha I missed that

Crossing fingers for spellblade buffs

[willow sentinel]

We know a few bits for Spellblade

Fire Aura buffs (big ones)

New class passive > gain 40% of the flat Melee on your weapon as Flat Spell

[ancient surge]

For a bit there, I forgot fire aura is mostly used by spellblade, but it is a skill that can exist outside of spellblade. I think fire shield notoriously links to it.

[willow sentinel]

It's a Spell that uses 1/3 of the Spellblade passive tree
And somehow is better on Runemaster

[south moat]

Might be better after the patch
hopefully

[willow sentinel]

Numbers looks way better

With what we see

[south moat]

Tbh I can't remember the dmg numbers of fire aura

[opaque obsidian]

and here i was committing to doing a necro igniter build. now im thinking spell blade

did they post patch notes somewhere i can look up and calculate my decisions? hahaha

[willow sentinel]

Nobody can

[south moat]

Friday is patch note day

[willow sentinel]

Because they weren't here

[south moat]

Yeah that's fair

[opaque obsidian]

ah ok, why is hype week sooooooooooooooo long though.

[south moat]

It's not terribly long

[willow sentinel]

<t:1774022400:F>

[south moat]

Today was the new rogue stuff, right?

[simple bison]

Ya

[south moat]

Hopefully they're good

[stark frost]

Silver Shroud ftw

[simple bison]

Should be removed from the game tbh, that might be a hot take though

[stark frost]

May be a hot take but you're right. It's just so good, and because it's so good, it's difficult to add fun interactions with it (set effects or anything really) because it's already so good.

[rancid pulsar]

0

[south moat]

That sounds about right, yup

Just a few more hours to go until the rogue stuff

[sudden hawk]

Thicket of Blinding Light gonna get nerfed confirmed? 😮

[south moat]

Yes

[sudden hawk]

sigh hopefully its still viable, probably is since its pmuch the only reflect option anyway

[south moat]

It most likely will still be strong
Just not as strong as it currently is

[heavy orchid]

Patch notes when ?

[simple bison]

friday

[willow sentinel]

<t:1774022400:F>

[heady night]

3 hours and 30 minutes!!!!!!!!!

[pine herald]

I remember someone have managed the lore in ask the dev channel?

They're too long so I didn't check them out though

[vocal sonnet]

I honestly have no idea what lore exists in this game, I dont even get the story I just skipped everyhing

[pine herald]

It's normal hhh

That guy who managed the lore before said they're confused what's going on too

[night marten]

Kyle is the loremaster, he pops into #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs every now and then. but generally you can still ask there and someone will get an answer

[half quartz]

someone mentioneod that spirit xylem is getting buffed for s4, but I can't find the image of the rework. does anyone have a link?

[night marten]

https://discordapp.com/channels/368953963267096586/414295382625878037/1471545852852961544

if it isnt in here, then we dont have a pic

[half quartz]

where would the pics be? I remember a few being posted on reddit

[night marten]

in the link in the msg that i sent you

i dont think it gets the stuff from reddit tho, just the dev streams

[red fox]

Well, cant wait to play blade storm

[heady night]

2 hours and 17 minutes!

[willow sentinel]

Turns out brutality is better than what the hype post told us

Since the post was wrong

[west ivy]

oh

that's quite something

ES VK keeps winning (and a bunch of others too)

[primal abyss]

Good day, Travelers 😄

[west ivy]

the other VK build I tried on the current season would also greatly enjoy Rampancy, because of butcher crown + sword catcher

[south moat]

Good day, Van

[primal abyss]

[heady night]

wow

[willow sentinel]

Let me get 200% More Dmg on that one surge hit and os uber 😏😏

[simple heart]

Classic true authentic EHG experience, lets get ready for the patch that corrects bugs that bring new bugs for the next 3 weeks !!! Yep pee they didn't read their tooltip nor code again !

[turbid silo]

We have updated the post as well

[west ivy]

cleaver solution + brutality is gonna be funny on classes that don't actually care very much about things like armor

[outer tundra]

Armor?

It does not remove the previous effect

Your lich will decrease, but not your armor

If they also reduce armor, then this bonus kills the defense

[willow sentinel]

You won't have Str anymore

So no %Armor from Str

[outer tundra]

Then this bonus is not worth it

[chilly ember]

literally doubling your damage sounds pretty worth it

[outer tundra]

Most melee builds have good armor, the only exception might be spellblade

[outer tundra]

This is a very rare case where you can sacrifice an extra layer of protection for damage... If they make a build with a one-shot Uber Aberroth again, maybe

[west ivy]

I mean it's all trade-offs

[chilly ember]

i mean there are other layers you can lean into, btw 200 strength is attainable meaning you can triple your damage xd

[vocal sonnet]

sounds like its not gonna do anything for spinny sentinel

[willow sentinel]

Nope

Wp has a mana cost of 1

Because mana cost =/= channel cost

[west ivy]

there's a build that uses Rive + butcher's crown so you're always in Frenzy, meaning swapping vit for rampancy is going to make you lose health and some resistances, but you're also getting a ton more damage
600 health, 60% poison resist, 60% necro resist as a trade-off for 300% Frenzy effect? crazy

[simple heart]

Just put the more frenzy effect belt for more damage and less defense and go OS Uber

[west ivy]

butcher's crown gives you permanent fenzy but it's a primordial like the belt so can't have both

[simple heart]

Yes take the belt it scale with strength

More x more=more^2

[west ivy]

ok but the butcher's crown already gives you a massive amount of extra frenzy

[primal abyss]

Sounds like it's time to cook, then

Also yay Hype Week Day #3

[turbid silo]

Hype Week Day Three! WOOO 🙂

[ancient surge]

Or you can use the belt and more than 112 strength and scale frenzy even more. I just checked (belt gives 1% effect per 1 strength).
It's not permanent, so it's an extra step, but the extra effort for a trigger condition is not the worst.

[zenith pewter]

1.5h

[west ivy]

the belt might give you higher benefits, but requires some way of activating the frenzy and you're going to take vastly more damage too

[tall lagoon]

Wait would cleaver solution even work with brutality? Since the strength is converted?

[west ivy]

the 9 to 15% increased damage taken while you have Frenzy is going to be massively boosted too because it scales with the effect of Frenzy
yeah you're doing more damage and hitting faster but you're also making that 9% into 50% more damage taken

[west ivy]

I would imagine so

[tall lagoon]

I don't think it would apply that way, the actual effect of Frenzy is 20% increased attack and cast speed. The increased damage taken is a seperate condition

[west ivy]

Fangs of the Berserker says the damage taken and dealt are altered by "increased effect of frenzy"

[tall lagoon]

Ope you're right, missed that line

Last time I tried a frenzy build I went with Butcher's Crown instead specifically to avoid that effect

[west ivy]

yeah butcher's crown + sword catcher works fantastic

[rancid pulsar]

now that it's 3% inc damage taken the downside seems very managable

(also the item actually working helps :P )

[tall lagoon]

Am I going insane or wasn't there something revealed recently that increases area of effect? I can't find it now

[night marten]

madness convert iirc

[ancient surge]

Hmm, considering how arpgs in general work, there is something to be said about one-hit-kills. So long as your defenses are sufficient, but you one-tap most things and also hit the bosses even harder, yes you take more damage, but if there's nothing alive to hit you, well... not take as many hits to boot. Even big bosses, the shorter a fight is, the lower the chance of slipping up and dying.

[west ivy]

whaddayamean

[rancid pulsar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1rwamho/comment/oazj0tp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[tall lagoon]

That's what I thought, but it's not listed in the forum post. was it somewhere else maybe?

Madness:

1% Spell Critical Multiplier per point.
1% increased bonus damage taken from critical strikes per point.

[night marten]

it might be exulis amulet with madness convert then

someone had posted everything together

recently

[rancid pulsar]

it is exulis I believe

kinda unfortunate madness's inherent effect is useless for DoT, I wouldn't have minded some area scaling

[tall lagoon]

Ah yep that's what it was, someone had posted the effects yesterday. Thanks!

[west ivy]

I see!
But damage also got halved there

[rancid pulsar]

indeed

[ancient surge]

Yeah, from 112 str to match max rolled crown to 224 str

Unles the crown is also nerfed :p

[heady night]

1 HOUR MY SHADOW ROGUE GANG!

[tall lagoon]

Yeah I was hoping for some way to make it work with Ghostflame. Seems insane for Spine of Malatros though

[inner finch]

Are we getting the full list of Falconer buffs today

We better

[radiant ermine]

With the profile pic of a falcon - I love it

[inner finch]

I took it myself, thanks

[strange umbra]

Good morning Travelers!

[wicked violet]

Yo, should a communication suggestion go in #suggestions ?

[turbid silo]

Good morning @strange umbra !

[wicked violet]

@willow sentinel thanks

[strange umbra]

time to put on the easter costume

[primal abyss]

Absolutely!

Hello Muffin

Hi Folks I've missed come in

[wicked violet]

K I made it. It's kind of relevant to right now 😛

[ornate siren]

Morning Muffin !

[balmy arrow]

haloooooo

[strange umbra]

https://tenor.com/P9PU.gif

[ornate siren]

Vandryll late to the party again 😂😂

[primal abyss]

Late? How dare you! I am the party!

[ornate siren]

Damn all this time WE all thought it was Muffin !

[willow sentinel]

I wonder if Brutality gives More Melee Dmg

Or More Dmg to melee attack

Meaning any Spell subskills would benefit from it

[cobalt fable]

any new teasers?

[willow sentinel]

Look at #news

We are int the middle of hype week

[tall lagoon]

You should post that in the ask devs, I'm curious too

[night marten]

fun fact...its already asked

[rancid pulsar]

[wicked violet]

I'm too quick with it

[primal abyss]

[ornate siren]

[heady night]

15 MINUTES TILL ROGUE SUPREMACY!!! SHADOW GANG RISE UP!

iight ima chill

[zenith pewter]

How hyped are you Ghosttear xD

[inner finch]

[heady night]

https://giphy.com/gifs/neogaf-arkham-protect-b1o4elYH8Tqjm

[frosty ridge]

day 3 hype week waiting room

[short sphinx]

would be crazy if yall doubled up on teasers for hype week considering how long the wait has been 👁️

[raw salmon]

when hype post?

[night marten]

about 11 minutes

same time as all the posts this week

[strange umbra]

https://tenor.com/zN0n.gif

[raw salmon]

i hope today talks about spellblade and wildfire embers

[frosty ridge]

yes need spellblade news

[night marten]

today is rogue skills and other class changes. so perhaps SB news (but we also got a bit of it already)

i doubt wildfire would make it here

unless they sneak in item stuff too

[turbid silo]

Longest 5 minutes ever, amirite? 😉

[inner finch]

Are you ready for a miracle?

Ready as i can be

[strange umbra]

https://tenor.com/brdyi.gif

[last crane]

GIVE ME HYPE WEEK POST 3 😄

[raw salmon]

im definitely not trying to bait the devs into dropping wildfire/spellblade notes

definitely not it

[night marten]

no

[light lake]

Ok new skill but what about balancing