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pliant tartan
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Maybe fire minions of some sort idk

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I felt bad for skipping s3 cause I wanna support the game and of course play but timing was poor

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Semi poor again but I don’t wanna miss another season or cycle

willow sentinel
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This looks sick

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I am jealous

pliant tartan
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What is that

ancient surge
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Season 3 content is core content, so you can and will still see its mechanics whenever you play again.

pliant tartan
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Haven’t done any s3 stuff so that’ll be new

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I just remember loving weaver stuff

willow sentinel
ancient surge
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As for support, believe you me I would have loved to buy some MTX on the sheer basis of supporting the devs, but uh... income not keeping up with expenses is a thing and add medical bills on top, I don't see myself being able to buy mtx, as I also reduce my gaming expenditure more and more in general.
I also cannot really stick to a single title for extended periods of time, so I alternate games, sneak in a new title here and there.
I will rue the day when it becomes an unspoken rule to support the developers financially beyond the price tag.

pliant tartan
visual frigate
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its less than you expect.
you're always in a team, never alone. at least one other agent, right? Lets say you're at minimum the one who notices the bad guy, which also means first to act. The target is never going after you, always the principal. They are never set to deal with your interception or any of that, so its actually really, really easy since their balance is set to their target- again, never you.

visual frigate
ancient surge
visual frigate
# ancient surge I smell the science of kinetics and psychology in there.

more or less, right.

so, theyre diving/reaching/what have you for someone not the big dude in the suit nearby
makes them significantly easier to decentralize.

only annoying part is, the other agent(s) bail with the principal and once theyre gone you gotta pay for your own uber to catch back up with the team after things are handled

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Still unsure what my meme build for this season gonna be

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id like to use the... dragon staff thing

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fire minions kinda blow though

ancient surge
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I never actually looked into the damage output potential of the damage types and the prevalence of defenses in mobs that our damage type meets. Like, is fire relatively balanced in damage output with the rest, but we have many monsters that have fire resistance, as opposed to say void, which is not a very common resistance outside of void monsters?

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I suppose we have thematic resistances that rely on both the era of the mob/monster as well as their specificity, like necrotic-fire mix or void-fire mix. The question would be how many mobs that have fire resistance of a notable factor as opposed to the other resistances/damage types are there?

half vigil
worn osprey
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So, the new endgame addition is omens, echo chains and the omen boss, if i undetstood this correctly?

south moat
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Well yes
there's the pinnacle boss

short vessel
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Precisely to avoid all that shenaniganery

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This isn't titan quest where entire classes get shafted cos they're built around damage types that common enemy types are heavily resistant to

short vessel
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Will it be good? Lol no

ancient surge
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This would imply that fire damage as a whole is underperforming in numbers, no?

short vessel
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idk the data on that

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oh in terms of fire minions?

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it's specifically minions

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and it's because there are no classes with major fire minion support

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fire wraiths used to be very good

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but afaik not anymore

ancient surge
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Took a quick look at the necromancer nodes. They heavily favor physical damage minions, and they also get a minor poision or necrotic boost, a node for flat fire and elemental damage as a whole.
The distribution of the bonuses, however, indicate that physical is the first priority, necrotic 2nd and other damage types are tertiary, with lightning being the most underrepresented and void completely absent.

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In terms of damage types specifically. They get generic attack or spell damage in other ways.

short vessel
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void knight is the only mastery that gets void support at all

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in passive/skill trees

ancient surge
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Yes, but that is but a minor point. I was being complete for completeness sake :p

south moat
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Tbh I'd love to have more fire minion support on necro

visual frigate
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I guesss technically dragon raptors

zealous siren
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Good morning everyboday, y'all ready for day 2? 😄 hope everybody is doing well ❤️

simple bison
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5 hours left :P

zealous siren
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yesss

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and todays topic will be the rune of corruption and maybe the converted attributes? 😄

low moon
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do runes of corruption get unique stats ? I thought its just another affix on an item

zealous siren
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and maybe today they will tell us what they do

simple bison
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Example:

ancient surge
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Indeed, that one picture above was what got me thinking I should check back on LE in the first place. And for the reason that +1 all skills and 25 mana on the same affix is unique.

low moon
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I mean unique as in, adding a mechanical change to a build as opposed to different way of damage

south moat
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Well we don't know what the other stats like madness etc do
I wouldn't be surprised if it no longer gives ward retention

ancient surge
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We're not even officially day 2 into hype week, which is really chosen bits of the update to keep us interested, not actually the patch notes that matter.

loud fable
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Not coming back until the expansion (will buy the packs to support, tho, as with every season), but I'm smelling some big changes, me thinks. I don't have a master document on all the small things that point to making the game centered around the "I do this to kill the boss" loop, but the way you've experimented with the Rift Beast, now the chained echoes, and many other small things that smell of you guys being in the area. Genuinely hope to see you actually take the step, because that's exactly what the genre needs, and it's what's keeping at pretty much just the people that are already playing - numbers going up can only be interesting for so long.

I guess a shift like that would only be seen in the expansion, so, we'll see in a year-or-so?! 👀

balmy arrow
ancient surge
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But specific goals are important for some people. What stops someone from putting the game down once the goals are achieved? I know I get to beat uber abby, and within the following few days, I lose interest. Same for PoE, I beat the uber, I linger a bit, lose interest, move on.
Grinding for grinding's sake is not fun, regardless of game.

loud fable
loud fable
ancient surge
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Thing is, poe may have kept me around a little longer compared to LE, but that translates into all the hoops to jump through to even GET to uber-murdering status of build.

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I know intermediate goals are some areas where people may outright stop. But what sort of goal can there be that is well definable past ubers?

loud fable
loud fable
ancient surge
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Braindead if you're not efficent about it :p

primal abyss
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Helllllooo Travelers~

ancient surge
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The game play I come for in an arpg is to try and unwind.

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I.e. shut brain off a little, plow through mobs.

loud fable
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That's 100% valid. Absolutely valid. But. It does mean that game won't have more success than its initial footing. Lots of huge IPs that are just leisure games, but they have the advantage of their size. If your game doesn't scratch the "monke brain likes to feel rewarded through believing they solved an issue", it tends to die, or hit its cap very fast.

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Or if you can manage to reach so many people that you hit critical mass, that's another strategy.

severe socket
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-# EVERYONE GET IN THE VAN

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👋 Van

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How's the hype week going?

ancient surge
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Um... all arpg games suffer from the thing that there is a definitive "hardest thing you can do in the game" which constitutes as a final end-goal, since if there's nothing more challenging, what is there to work towards? We all make our own fun with the games we play and the best way to go about it is options that all feel good to someone. LE went the "make it fun route" (quality) while PoE went with quantity. I trust LE to slowly build up fun content in time.

primal abyss
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it being tuesday, so far so good I suppose 😆

severe socket
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PoE is ridiculously overwhelming and overwhelmingly ridiculous in way too many aspects for comfort.

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Those 234 hours I have in PoE1 kinda ended the franchise for me, I'm afraid.

heady night
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3 hrs and 29 minutes!

inner finch
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We gonna get so many Falconer buffs

trim blade
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but what about Omen Linux? kappa

main frigate
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lol

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...what the name of apple system

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Oh. What about Omen MacOS

red fox
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Maybe its just me, but im more into loots than perfect craft, the craft system in LE is golded, but i lake dopamin from the loots

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( ill still get the founder pack cause all LE skins are goated SO to the designers you guys are the real goats )

turbid silo
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Happy Hype Week Day Two!

whole dust
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I get usually bored around 300

night marten
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i dont think i have ever been over 1k

severe socket
zealous siren
red fox
earnest oasis
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the challenge is finding no bugs

willow sentinel
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Otherwise you are bound to fail

red fox
# whole dust I get usually bored around 300

I'm not getting bored till i can push a build and till i see the loot coming as i push cor
But, IMO guys IMO, you aint see the differenc when you play in 300 and 1800 in loot, and that's a bit rought when you see the optimisation that you need between both.

The loot NEED to follow the corruption, imo, being able to still drop 1Lp past the 1000 cor is such a joke..

void hatch
whole dust
wide river
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Man I really wanna try the new rogue, but I have a feeling after 2-3 hrs I will just go back to my precious void knight Sentinel_VoidKnight

stray forge
turbid silo
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I am stoked to roll a Rogue - the wait is killing me 😄

wide river
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Out of my 1300 hrs I spent roughly 75% on sentinel 😄

stray forge
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*stand for

turbid silo
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Sure doesn't

wide river
calm jay
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Every Happy Guy

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Even Hippos Growl

south moat
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I think i've only played 2 or 3 rogues
Who knows, maybe it's time to finally do another

stray forge
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Elder horse Grunt

calm jay
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I dipped a toe into Falconer and liked it, I just fell really hard for the other 4 classes

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And mostly for Paladin, being that I rolled 2, ha

south moat
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I played falconer once
I didn't really care for it tbh

turbid silo
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Bladedancer FTW

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or Marksman heh

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I dunno which one I'm gonna do yet

stray forge
turbid silo
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Probably

inner finch
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Falconer slander in chat?

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1v1 me

stray forge
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Go for a full bladerdancer, youll always say one more game till you die in an explosion

south moat
stray forge
inner finch
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only Rust, i only 1v1 in Rust

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Intervention no melee

south moat
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I don't hang out in many places

stray forge
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Look at our shared servers

south moat
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Yeah I haven't even said anything in there in several years

stray forge
south moat
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I haven't said anything there since 2018

stray forge
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Bro was it a hallucination? Am i an AI?

inner finch
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No, admitting mistakes is what makes you human

eternal oyster
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Admitting mistakes is a key part of the learning process. It's also how you get better at playing games like Last Epoch

stray forge
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Thanks guys 🥹, really appreciate it

south moat
# stray forge Bro was it a hallucination? Am i an AI?

You could just be remembering seeing me on this server earlier and then mistaking yesterday being active here to GD server. There was also someone else with cat profile picture talking there yesterday
It happens.

I've had people in real life mistake me for my brother and that's way more awkward
seeing that he's a married man and doesn't live in the same city (hasn't in over a decade now)

stray forge
lavish plinth
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hi, I would to ask, the chat is disable in Last Epoch or nobody talking in the game ?

south moat
lavish plinth
south moat
lavish plinth
south moat
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🤷‍♂️ I don't have any idea then

lavish plinth
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you can see other players speaking ?

silk flare
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Hype week is real!

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Corrupted items today?

night marten
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corruption rune today, yes

ancient surge
ashen raptor
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What time does the hype week stuff drop today?

primal abyss
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The trigger will be pulled around 11 AM CST >:3

wild badge
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totally not me googling time zones every time again

ancient surge
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in 1 hour, I think.

wild badge
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ya thanks, i googled it xd

willow sentinel
south moat
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Oh no, I'm not ready for it in 1hour

silk flare
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I'm ready!

willow sentinel
wanton rover
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I am excited for the new season! What is everyone playing this season?

south moat
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My latest character is lightning blast runemaster
No idea what I'll play next season really

willow sentinel
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Spellblade Fire Aura or Werebear Shatter Totem

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Or some last minute Sentinel

zealous siren
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I'm going for some sort of mage, hoping for spellblade to look good

south moat
wild badge
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rogue babyyyyy

night marten
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eventually going to be doing a bane of winter build. but idk if i want to start with VO mage or stay going FG

primal abyss
zealous siren
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you're waiting for the patch notes like us? 😄

south moat
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Maybe even a froge guard

primal abyss
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Mage, Sentinel or Rogue as my first go-to

south moat
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Tbh I am kinda tempted to play rogue because of the new skills
but last time I played rogue was with heartseeker and uhh... let's just say it didn't feel very good to me

primal abyss
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Aah I mean that's fair

night marten
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i dont understand the dislike HS got on release

wild badge
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i played it, i had fun lol

tough sierra
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Which channel are the teasers from Mike's stream shown?

topaz path
main frigate
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We must wait, you doesn't need

night marten
night marten
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you are implying because i dont understand something that i think its wrong.

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opinions are there for discussion so you can learn how the other person views things

topaz path
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Nope not at all lol

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Don't take things so personally

night marten
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not understanding an opinion is fairly common

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no one is taking anything personally. lol

strange umbra
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Good morning Travelers! muffin_hi

turbid silo
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Good morning Muffin!

viral halo
strange umbra
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HYYYYYYYYPE WEEEEEEEEEK woooooooooooooooo

turbid silo
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🥳

strange umbra
tough sierra
high kettle
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heartseeker is mechanically insane

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but I think people were just not ready for how bad marksman is in general

wild badge
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did i played it wrong?

turbid silo
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They are shared in this channel during the stream, but they are all "housed" in that forum thread.

tough sierra
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Thanks!

turbid silo
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My pleasure!

high kettle
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with wasd its broken mechanically

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but mm damage or defences isnt really good so

wild badge
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uhm

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wdym by insane? insanly good or bad? xd

high kettle
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good

lost elk
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I cleared Abby pretty easy with Reign of Winter Heartseeker, was pretty goated to me

high kettle
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just the damage isnt there is the problem

wild badge
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ok ok, i thought you meant bad x)

lost elk
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Think I'm gonna try Shadow Rend Marksman for S4 starter

wild badge
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i ll look which of the new skills i like the most and do that

turbid silo
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15 minutes wooo 😄

zenith pewter
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i'm waiting 😄

south moat
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Gm Muffin

strange umbra
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hiya nub!

last crane
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i am so HYPEEDDDDD

heady night
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i am requesting gifs be allowed during hype weeks only

strange umbra
heady night
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8 MINUTES!!!!

main frigate
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I can feel this is a hyped Muffin

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He can't stop himself to post gif lol

proud hinge
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bladestorm incoming

night marten
strange umbra
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lol

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ok not trying to clog the channel - I shall pause... FOR NOW

strange umbra
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^ my fav

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lol

turbid silo
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😄

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Fitting

south moat
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May I have gif permissions? heavybreathing
I promise I'm a sane individual and can be trusted with permissions

supple vine
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Mainenance now? Get no connection to the servers 🙁

balmy arrow
viral halo
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GrolePortal2 groleshades
WOW! AWESOME!
I just travelled through a time rift and saw everything coming today!
Amazing!

CANNOT WAIT to put my hands on!!!

main frigate
turbid silo
strange umbra
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will be my season starter

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cant wait to play em

low cradle
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I just want to know whats happening to my girl rogue.

south moat
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Okay
I am ready for the hype now
Finished the dinner in time after all

supple vine
strange umbra
low cradle
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They've been knocking it out of the park with class fantasy focused reworks recently

strange umbra
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lol

night marten
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well this isnt really a rework

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its just new skills

low cradle
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It's essentially reworking every skill in rogue.

night marten
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no?

low cradle
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By changing how the most...parasitic skill in rogue worked

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Well blade dancer at least.

night marten
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it exists

willow sentinel
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Time to click send Derrick

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Let's go

low cradle
turbid silo
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😉

jade robin
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mourn, wish this was like 3 weeks later

low cradle
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we already know for example it can spit shurikens so if the drop on shadows things stays around shurikens dancing blades is a lot better.

south moat
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Ah wonderful
And the clown reactions start instantly

glad trout
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diablo 4 better

strong hearth
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Yo, I head the studio sold out to an AI company. Is the game and the devs still good or has it been lost to private equity?

inland hull
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Sooo what state is game currently? I heard there going to be dlc classes, is there any other disturbing news or thats it ?

static pine
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I couldn't care less if they copy curruption from PoE as long as it's good.

night marten
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nothing else has changed

lost steeple
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What eagles said

strong hearth
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Paid classes isn’t the end of the world, games are expensive, esspecially mmos like this.

inland hull
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Any bazaar changes or anything?

zealous siren
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i finally know what madness does yeees 😄

obtuse kindle
fathom umbra
glacial sun
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Still paid classes?

night marten
night marten
inland hull
strong hearth
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If that’s the worst that’s happening I’m glad to hear it, but I don’t keep up with LE very well so I was hoping you guys might be able to catch me up with a tldr

tawdry thistle
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Are there any end game changes yet? I like the game but the whole corruption thing gets long

obtuse kindle
proper pulsar
glacial sun
night marten
turbid silo
fathom umbra
night marten
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ish

strong hearth
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Ok cool. Ai is the devil so I was worried.

heady night
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this season is going to be so fun oh my gosh

night marten
silent pivot
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I'm not convinced the people asking stuff like this are even worth engaging with

glacial sun
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Ahh then still a nope from me that killed the game rip crafton screwing another game. At least they lost the lawsuit with subnautica devs

night marten
strong hearth
low cradle
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mmmmmmm yes

inner finch
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log in babe, we're Idol gaming

low cradle
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this is good

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i like this

tiny robin
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Have some time off next week. Has the time to get to end game increased or decreased at all since 0.3? (Trying to plan what I play)

low cradle
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i like this a lot

silent pivot
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if you look at the people asking about AI and krafton and whatnot there's basically a 100% overlap between them and the people clown and pregnant man reacting to every news post

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it's almost never a legitimate question, just trolls waiting to troll

strong hearth
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I mean ai has been running shit constantly, dealing with microslop in IT work has been beyond obnoxious.

proper pulsar
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What even is that pregnant emote, I just thought it was funny, but I have nothing against the game or the update

night marten
fathom umbra
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Yeah let's not be disengenuous.. AI IS EVERYWHERE today

inner finch
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And AI make a mistake and buff Falconer

strong hearth
glacial sun
fathom umbra
silent pivot
night marten
strong hearth
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I’m glad to see it’s just paid characters in the future and nothing worse. Hopefully that trend stays the same. I’m excited for the new league

round lake
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There is no consumer example where ai makes stuff better. It cost companies more. Mistakes are more violent. Should be banned at this speed

glacial sun
strong hearth
night marten
fathom umbra
fathom umbra
proper pulsar
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Solo, anyway, what do you guys think about the recent news?

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Soo*

blazing stream
glacial sun
round lake
blazing stream
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Need to innovate it more, focus on changing it, the corruption stacking is just such a bad design

calm jay
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Admittedly they have throughput problems, I think deliberate pacing and design like Diablo could help, but they're kinda in a corner with how the game plays like a Gauntlet game (just mash hordes of enemies in single hits, then the occasional boss fight), and loot spits out of every orifice constantly so you're never really fully encouraged to go hunting for it since it'll always end up in hoards in your lap

glacial sun
low merlin
calm jay
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Perhaps the biggest flaw they have is that the quests' only reward are idol and passive points, basically nothing else you get from quests is terribly great and after you're done pass/idol rewards, quests almost become counterintuitive

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And I say 'almost' as a concession, lol

fathom umbra
silent pivot
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I'm not defending anything, just saying the trolling is obvious

calm jay
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So the game is basically in this struggle to not just be a waiting room for monoliths, but also in a state where they have to design so that monoliths are as rewarding as they can be (IE that loot pinata + monster mash style)

fathom umbra
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Yeah i gotta stop engaging with the smooth brains, just block and move on

silent pivot
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I largely agree with the negative sentiment around krafton and paid classes

calm jay
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Lots of people every time who come in and don't understand basic economics, running costs, and how genuinely good we have it by not having to pay for content, but just classes

glacial sun
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Its like you robbing me the cops finding out forcing you to give back my stuff and you saying but I gave your stuff back thats so dumb

south moat
viral halo
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wow altars look even better than i thought...

calm jay
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The idea that I don't have to buy like, an assassin class I won't care about is very cool, and even cooler that I won't be barred from the next content drop because of it. It's genuinely the best outcome for us but people are just stuck in this dream version of reality where things don't cost money and nothing has any kind of ongoing expense

short sphinx
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game is getting even more nutty now

spark shale
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That new shield is nutty

fathom umbra
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People just coming in "I want free gaem! company must put out content for me forever and i don't wanna pay for any support"

turbid silo
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So many new possibilities with Corruption heh

short sphinx
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seems like a huge spike of power coming but i wonder if the base difficulty has been increased

fathom umbra
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People largely forget PoE has income in part because of stash tabs

night marten
modest burrow
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welp idols look like a bigger dmg boost

glacial sun
lost steeple
spark shale
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That nww shield is now better than majasa?

inner finch
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what i want from idols is to enable builds that weren't quite possible

short sphinx
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i need the patch notes!! excited to jump back in for a few days (weeks?)

ancient surge
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Uhm... this got busy again. Have fun people!

calm jay
latent acorn
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Which class gets stuff the next cycle I forgot

short sphinx
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ill be there!

viral halo
south moat
short sphinx
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im tryna see the lich changes

lost steeple
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I'm just stating facts lol

primal abyss
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Patch notes this week, S4 next week

night marten
calm jay
primal abyss
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Rogue will be receiving two new skills along with some other classes getting some TLC

hardy zenith
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is the auto thorns getting changed?

primal abyss
latent acorn
night marten
calm jay
short sphinx
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no way lol

lost steeple
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Rogue was already really fun last season, I may have to play heart seeker again

green ore
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What was that 1.1GB update on Steam about?

night marten
night marten
spark shale
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Shadow rend might actually be really fun

calm jay
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I can't wait to do FG and Pala again ugghhhhh

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And I want to try a Void caster out of Sent too

hardy zenith
earnest oasis
silent pivot
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"Intelligence: 4% Ward Retention per point" in the news post is wrong BTW, it's 2% unless EHG decided to buff it back to the old value

hardy zenith
night marten
fathom umbra
inner finch
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we're crossing some important breakpoints

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It smells like idol hunting and polishing will be a large chunk of this season

lost steeple
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Very likely. What's people's favorite strat for that? Assuming it's not different this season

vocal sonnet
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Im gonna do what I do best, rush mono's get bored in 2 days and quit

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true and tried process

night marten
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there really isnt much to do with idols hunting wise. you just play and get a good drop really

zenith pewter
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unbroken charge unique shield leaked? :0

vocal sonnet
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though theres a new pinacle so maybe 3 days

inner finch
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I counted 13 new boards

lost steeple
night marten
inner finch
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I wonder how did EHG program internal cooldowns for some of the idol effects like "% chance to create an aftershock under a nearby enemy on melee attack"

short sphinx
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will there be circle of fortune changes?

lost elk
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Might roll MG this season cause Idol stonks gonna be through the roof...

inner finch
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Also, what is said aftershock damage, can we increase it or manipulate it

night marten
lost steeple
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Oh yeah I forgot prophecies could apply to them. Duh lmao I've only ever really used them for getting uniques I need lp on lol

latent acorn
night marten
inner finch
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I would love if tooltips could evolve to actually start mentioning damage properties on those kinds of things

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maybe extended tooltip mode has this on the description

night marten
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it should in the skill tree. but from an idol, that would be a nice change

heady night
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are we gonna get mtx showcase or we have to wait till next week?

tall lagoon
#

Was not expecting idol altars to be their own items with affixes, crazy

half vigil
#

why was there a 1.1gb update this morning?

night marten
night marten
inner finch
#

I still wish EHG would dedicate a video to show us all new skill MTXs

#

like, why not also showcase it

zinc crest
#

Lmao that one corruption affix preview where it renamed the item 'test corruption 2' is hilarious

heady night
#

be nice too see what they cooked ahead of time. even buy early

rancid pulsar
#

hyped for testcorruption 2 mage builds

night marten
#

lol

balmy arrow
molten fulcrum
#

New season is hype or p2w class ruined it?

broken trench
#

well there is no p2w class in the new season

half vigil
#

the "p2w" classes as you're calling them aren't launching till the expansion does

molten fulcrum
fathom umbra
half vigil
tall lagoon
#

They announced plans for a paid class with the expansion, which is at least after next season. Everything else beyond that you've heard is just doomerism

molten fulcrum
fathom umbra
half vigil
fathom umbra
#

Its such a bonkers concept, making a class be paid, and making it initally worse than other classes

#

balance happens as timee goes on

night marten
fathom umbra
foggy helm
fathom umbra
half vigil
fathom umbra
inner finch
#

Filing his taxes

half vigil
foggy helm
fathom umbra
#

Lets bring back Lilith again, she was great right? /s

half vigil
golden crater
#

Has there been any confirmation on how the new conversions interact with red ring? Will a converted attribute still apply to red rings 180?

night marten
vocal sonnet
fathom umbra
half vigil
fathom umbra
#

Just gotta pay 60 more dollars to fight him

vocal sonnet
#

a diablo game with no diablo it should be illegal

half vigil
#

mephisto has done everything he could to avoid contact so far because he's in a weakened state so far. i'd be willing to assume the other greater evils are in a similar state, especially diablo after the events of reapers of souls

main frigate
#

Omen circles come from echo chains, the boss in each circle calls omen champions, we can get idol altars from these champions, different colours of their horn tie with different types of idol altars, they maybe drop that new type of idol and runes of corruption too, once I collect all types of altars or kill each of champions xxx times, I can summon the boss, exulis is the exclusive drop from final boss of omen.

Omen windows come from random encounters in echoes, the boss in these windows calls omen champions, we can get idol altars/runes of corruption/timeless fragments from these champions, idol altars are dropped randomly, runes of corruption are guaranteed, I can summon the boss of omen window by purchasing its hideout echo, exulis is the exclusive drop from final boss of omen.

Ok it's updated, you can understand my guessing (logic) more clearly.

I wonder how many runes of corruption, idol altars and fragments we can get per omen champion. What the range will be if there's one for each of them?

The other question: What the difference when both of corrupted items purchased from Apophis and these corrupted item subtypes with character limit?

I'm not sure what xxx corrupted items from Apophis mean.
The difference is one is corrupted already, the other one is you can consume your stash?

heady night
#

friday is going to be so lit

proper pulsar
#

Drop amount probably depends on timeline corruption

main frigate
#

hah yes not sure if it's scale with corruption

fair wing
#

you know what would be cool is if you corrupted a blue or yellow, it had a high chance turned into a purple.

half vigil
#

if i'm running a fire minion necro, is minion armor shred chance worth using?

fair wing
#

like keeping the affixes it had and turning into a purple would be leet

proper pulsar
# heady night friday is going to be so lit

Yeah I'm also looking forward to it. Though I feel like I'll again get stash issues lol, I had good plans for a filter, but filtering omen idols and omen altars will be difficult. Just show and stash all of them? Might take a lot of space

real vine
#

Drop amount scales with level and corruption

ancient surge
real vine
#

You can purchase either runes of corruption or pre-corrupted items of specific types (e.g. random pre-corrupted uniques, pre-corrupted amulets) from Apophis.

proper pulsar
#

not post-corrupted?

strange umbra
#

pre-corrupted means they are corrupted before purchase - they come "pre-corroupted"

proper pulsar
#

Ah like that 😄

low cradle
#

are all altars corrupted?

strange umbra
#

yes

ancient surge
#

Hmmm... purchased corrupted? Idk, language be not my strong suit.

fair wing
#

Are all players pre-corrupted? Kappa

low cradle
#

bless ehg's souls chase drops that aren't uniques/super uniques

main frigate
fathom umbra
low cradle
#

I also like how altars interact with not being trade

#

forcing you to roll with what you have

fair wing
#

I'm so excited for corruption rune, I might actually be able to beat uber abby this season now with any build

proper pulsar
#

I dunno, I only play CoF, but I'd understand if MG players would prefer if all items were tradeable

main frigate
low cradle
#

wait till you learn about UWUber OWObyss

fair wing
fathom umbra
night marten
half vigil
#

by altars are you guys meaning the new idol slot items?

real vine
viral halo
night marten
half vigil
#

i'm just so used to altars referring to object in the field lol

real vine
low cradle
night marten
real vine
main frigate
low cradle
#

Context interacts with not being trade as in you lose "I need this specific altar foro this build." if you're not trade.

night marten
low cradle
#

and are a lot more at the whims of fate

half vigil
fair wing
#

are the alters tradable?

main frigate
#

We can just purchase runes to corrupt them

real vine
#

Idol altars are giftable and are tradable through the Bazaar like any other equipment

low cradle
#

there's weird people who go ssf for clout, but i don't think those people existi n last epoch

fathom umbra
#

In a game that has as much SSF Freedom as CoF, I can't see myself going MG :p

proper pulsar
#

I think "not being MG" would make more sense, it really did sound like you meant the items weren't tradeable 😄

main frigate
half vigil
low cradle
night marten
main frigate
#

Yes, I want to learn why EHG provide this way.

fair wing
night marten
#

not everything needs a 10 page essay on why it exists

fair wing
#

when you salavge corrupted items, do you get any corruption matts?

night marten
#

the corrupted affixes cannot be shards

fair wing
#

well, I was thinking more like the shards

proper pulsar
#

I love the "kill stuff and hope for things to drop"-gamble, but when it comes to currency I usually hoard it lol, so many bones in the current season

main frigate
low cradle
night marten
#

the normal affixes can be recieved as shards still

fair wing
real vine
night marten
fair wing
#

What other questions can we ask that have answers on the forum to make Eagle mad? 🤣

low cradle
#

like is that a random mod/

fair wing
#

I joke, I joke

inner finch
#

Aaron in Vegas and still uploaded a hype day video, man is dedicated

#

EHG give him another item

proper pulsar
#

oh nice, gotta watch that

real vine
night marten
proper pulsar
#

cool cool

broken trench
#

we lost testcorruption2 RuneofCorruption

low cradle
#

I'm so out of the loop

fair wing
#

how long before someone asks for weapon swopping for alters? lol

low cradle
#

so an item can have a sealed set affix, and a sealed primordial affix, and a corrupted affix now?

fair wing
#

only 1 sealed

proper pulsar
#

I mean in a way we're all out of the loop until we've actually tried it

fair wing
#

no way they will allow more then one sealed affix

broken yarrow
#

is this game pay to win yet

real vine
#

Only one regular sealed. Primordial affixes and affixes from corruption go in their own slots.

fathom umbra
fair wing
broken yarrow
fair wing
proper pulsar
round jewel
#

Is there any update to endgame?

low cradle
#

memory strands type system

night marten
low cradle
#

you can convert your entire monolith to it if you want

broken yarrow
#

Ah I see. But I am not that rich yet. So I want cheap pay to win games. When will LE be able to be p2w?

fair wing
#

new boss, lets gooo

ancient surge
#

I almost misread it, but it makes sense, All 3 are sealed affixes, but primordial and corruption are their own... brand of sealed.

low cradle
#

I really like this

low cradle
#

because i hate disconnected random areas thematicly

#

but im sure people will also hate using it if its too strong

#

balance is hard

ancient surge
# fair wing neva

Depends on how the paid class(es?) will shape out. But those are, if I understand correctly, due for season 6 or beyond?

night marten
#

tho we dont know if s6 is the expansion yet

low cradle
#

I know lore is a secondary end game thing

night marten
#

its all murky after s5

low cradle
#

but do we know why the echoes are connected.

#

Same timeline or something?

ancient surge
#

Indeed, all we know for certain is that season 4 and 5 are pre-expansion, right?

night marten
#

basically, yeah, each island is its own timeline, and then the echoes are just like little pockets inside them. leading to the timeline boss

long spindle
#

ㅤㅤ

fathom umbra
proper pulsar
#

eh?

ancient surge
#

With echoes showing as sort of islands as a map icon within a timeline, I got temporarily confused.

molten fulcrum
dark grail
#

This game needs a serious item stats overhual, just omegablasting items with even more stats every update ain't it... the corrupted ladle looks ridiculous

ancient surge
#

The echoes being connected, I have no clue if it has a real lore reason. But it does make mechanical sense. Or rather, if the lore was made to support the echoes being connected because it makes mechanical sense?

fair wing
#

yeah, fast turn around is nice

proper pulsar
night marten
#

yeah the ladle they showed is a 'ruined' item, so its unusable

ancient surge
#

But... nobody sends you there, your character goes by their own volition, far as I gather.

night marten
earnest oasis
#

can one of the qol things we're getting be the ability to craft without getting kicked for being afk

night marten
#

just most people dont talk to the npcs

ancient surge
#

May have changed since I actually paid proper attention :p

#

Used to be you go in to chase apophis, but that got changed this cycle.

night marten
#

yeah. you talk to forgotten knight and i think its her that tells you to go practice saving the world in the monolith

#

or that lady infront of the monolith portal

ancient surge
#

Rings a bell, but forgotten knight is more being, what's that term... disparaging? Would it be a spoiler to mention that she's trying to keep you out at this point? The other lady... entity... wasn't she more a text tutorial on the monolith? :p

short sphinx
#

corruption seems like a get a bunch of the same item thats pretty good, not a GG item and just slam until you get something sick

#

or a GG item ofc if ur high stakes

ancient surge
#

Well, vaal orbs have been a long time in poe and what you're describing is the baseline of their use cases :p

short sphinx
#

one of the downsides being u may not even be able to equip the item anymore is funny

low cradle
#

A common practice when I was super young in poe was to corrupt items once you were done using them

short sphinx
#

yeah i wasnt sure if vaal orbs had all those same negatives as well lol

ancient surge
#

corruption is a risk that also involves your efforts into the item can turn to an effect of 0. At least you get to keep the item, display it proudly?

low cradle
#

vaal orbs have like 5 ways to just delete a item with much less chance of upside.

ancient surge
low cradle
#

Be proud falconier

#

you were strong

ancient surge
#

We don't yet know all the outcomes and their weighting for corruption in LE, do we?

low cradle
night marten
#

and likely wont until its datamined or something

#

EHG generally doesnt give out %s

ancient surge
#

It's a little weird to me that if datamining can for sure draw out the % chances, then a developer still doesn't release the numbers themselves. At any point. And no, it's not just EHG. It seems a general thing that I don't understand to date.

muted cape
#

HYPE LETS GOO

calm jay
#

I've never understood using vague terminology instead of just producing the numbers, but my assumptions about it are generally poor-- it's sort of on the level of artificial difficulty

#

The only difference between me running and mathing out tests and you just providing that 'a chance' means '5% of the time' is four hours

muted cape
#

le cooking hard, and sweaty like Gordon Ramsey holy...

ancient surge
#

It's not even tests, datamining involves ripping the numbers out of game files.

calm jay
#

Well, I don't know datamining things so in my case, the solution would be a dummy, a clean test environment, and just running some basic tests under consistent circumstances

ancient surge
#

Even to find that something has a 0.1% chance of happening?

acoustic palm
#

Game in one week hype? POG

calm jay
#

Well that's the bugger isn't it though. I go in blind assuming that 'a chance' has some sort of rule or boundary, IE if it means 5% here it always means whole percents or whatever

#

I'm working off no information except what the game provides and I have to do bloody math assignments to get the pieces of the equation I'm missing.

acoustic palm
#

We should start getting some big reveals soon

calm jay
#

And it's not even like it's on the level of drawing my own map where because I don't have that info I might stumble into a trap or something.

#

It's kind of just a matter of to what degree I'll just resign to go in blind to things and hope for the best. And personally, to me, that smacks of lazy design direction. :\

#

Like the ancient RPG debacle: status effects are either game-changing or BS.

#

Usually on the back of how often they'll land and on what.

ancient surge
#

Exactly. But in a world of software and software being outright disassembled, even if not legally, or heck, a hex editor to just look at the machine code that a file or another generates... It's not that hard.

calm jay
#

Right, and at least one person savvy enough will do that and put it to a public-facing forum of some kind, or produce it upon request.

ancient surge
#

When I say "ripped from game files", I mean literally. There are numbers stored within files and they show up pretty clearly in many ways when inspecting through such means.

#

I know of this because I have to do such stuff for my job on occasion...

calm jay
#

Yeah, I've seen a bit of games' guts and inferred a thing or two. And it's not like they can contain the information once it's out. So again, it sort of just reflects as kind of a... bully move? 'Neener neener, find it yourself' kinda energy.

#

Put a math textbook item ingame to unlock the ability to view it even or something. But come on, don't just obfuscate stuff for the player because it creates this imagined adversity (I say that because it's really just cumbersome burden).

ancient surge
#

I don't go out digging in game files outside of exposed values in text or text-like files or somesuch, personally... Unless I really want to make a mod or mod modification for an offline game.

#

But as we know, some people do it on the regular, and those numbers get exposed and figuring it out in-game is beaten rather quickly by meta-knowledge in this sense.

main frigate
ancient surge
#

This is why I question the need to never reveal. If the values are accessible, typically within a week, then being for ever secretive is kind of... useless?

main frigate
ancient surge
#

Idol altars are specific to omens, no?

main frigate
#

...Remind me of the other question, do runes of corruption are apecific to omens too

#

Corrupted items & Omen idols can apply in the same template lol

#

In that post, EHG just mention they're part of loots from omen windows but not mention any other ways can get them

ancient surge
#

To my understanding, runes of corruption are the guaranteed drop at the end of a circle fight mechanic.

main frigate
#

In simple, how can we get all loots be mentioned in today's post except omen windows

coarse swallow
#

Imprints can reproduce a corrupted item I believe is the only way outside of Omens.

coarse swallow
#

Mike and I in the same boat, haha. Didn't realize it got changed either.

#

So then no, just Omens.

ancient surge
#

Frankly, I think it's better, would've been odd outside of omens.

main frigate
#

Thanks. Today's questions are done :)

#

I will not feel odd, I just know I can access them faster if they can outside of omens

eternal bough
#

SHEEESSHHH

#

they are cookinggg with this new stuff

gentle vessel
#

Haven't really been following, is this the paid league with classes+++ or whatever?

ancient surge
#

Honestly, we need a centralized FAQ with all the most common questions in here.

gentle vessel
#

Yeah, last I heard was paid expansion and now it's hype week and I don't see any mention of the paid expansion anymore and confused

simple bison
main frigate
#

Drop amounts of exclusive loots from Omen windows scale with character level and corruption only + They're exclusive for Omen windows mean a new farming marathon coming soon omegalul

primal abyss
#

Everyone doing well this afternoon? 👀

main frigate
#

No, because it's morning now

primal abyss
#

Oh gosh

#

Well good morning

main frigate
#

Too early for good morning though because 02:11 now

ancient surge
#

Indeed, what we know so far is: seasons 4 and 5 are pre-expansion/dlc, and paid class is not yet exactly known if it will release with expansion or not.

main frigate
#

I guess Van want to move on and open a new topic but he don't know which new topic available omegalul

night marten
primal abyss
#

What topic?

night marten
#

we've tried it before

#

just like pins

gentle vessel
#

ARPG gamers can't read anyways

ancient surge
#

Ah, right... internet involution has gotten that far, huh?

main frigate
grave isle
primal abyss
night marten
#

we've had the MTX bug out thing pinned for literal months. people still ask

main frigate
#

You can try which food did you cook/enjoy as dinner next time omegalul

ancient surge
#

If anything, if we had an FAQ section, like maybe under Server Guide that we could link to easily, we could also not spend the time to type it out and link to it outright.

main frigate
#

Food talk always work

ancient surge
#

I may... just go write it out as a suggestion, really.

candid linden
#

anyone else going to play new patch on march 26th?

main frigate
#

yes, All EHG members will

outer tundra
#

Will there be patch notes a few days before the release?

turbid silo
outer tundra
main frigate
ancient surge
#

Seeing as the 26th is a Thursday and local time will be rather evening, it depends on whether the 27th will require me to be... awake enough to handle anything. Not that I can stay up late any longer, but hey, one can prepare.

#

That's less of a slogan, more of a meme.

#

And to be fair, PoE has... probably a category of memes of its own.

candid linden
#

how do i know if im good at this game?

ancient surge
main frigate
#

The moment you get fun from that

ancient surge
#

Kirra is on the crux, yes. A game is for having fun, not being good at it.

grave hornet
#

the worst conversion is for dex lol

primal abyss
ancient surge
#

The "stay sane, exile" is more of a meme because it was a very common voice line from the character delivering it and the whole story evolved into how nobody stays sane when venturing into the atlas.

charred pasture
#

worst season comming up, we have so much randomness and now even more & at top of that ruin your items... time to move on ffs

ancient surge
#

That's a hot take, if ever I've seen one that I can identify.

#

If it ever becomes a requirement to "beat" the game, let me know.

maiden sky
#

So far the season looks fine even if you never once slowed your progression down for corruption.

west ivy
ancient surge
#

I hope it stays on the level of "win harder" as are the uber drops we have to date.

maiden sky
#

It’s always heavy rng going for perfect items. This is just another huge one to add on top.

Best way I have thought of them so far is how good they can be for legacy.

main frigate
#

omegalul I beat my game already. Want to get multiple lv 100 characters, 3 I have and cooking thr 4th.

main frigate
#

So I still wonder what I can do to get fun

west ivy
#

people will be having a conversation about something and then someone jumps in mid-conversation and asks the exact thing that's being talked about

fathom umbra
#

People not reading is a universal truth

ancient surge
maiden sky
#

Most people that get a lot of hours out of arpgs are bc they are heavily min/max their characters.

west ivy
#

I feel like mods need to hand out some timeouts a bit more often :V

inner finch
maiden sky
#

They get to 60 second Ubers then they start working on 30 sec Ubers.

It can also basically be considered as practice for the new seasons.

main frigate
ancient surge
night marten
ancient surge
#

Oh... oh, my. I'm guessing actual release is even worse?

simple bison
west ivy
ancient surge
#

To be fair, I never stick around for chats past release. Game is more fun than arguing on the internet.

night marten
#

tbh its been better the past few releases than 1.0

#

that was reeeeeeeeally bad

#

wtf?

fathom umbra
#

dont you h ave more productive thigns to do?

ancient surge
#

Introducing... the mirror.

#

And I mean that RL and also RL-adjacent metaphoric mirror.

night marten
#

yeah idk what this is about but lets not threaten people

inner finch
#

Gregory when life gives you lemons

charred pasture
#

@night marten push allowed, proper answers not i guess, nwo rules

ancient surge
#

Trigger finger detected. And also my discord seems to have broken, it doesn't know what detected means any more. Unless I write a longer sentence... AI auto-correction detected.

night marten
charred pasture
#

@night marten i'm sure you do not understand because common sense fly away from many people last 15 years and its really weird what is happening. But sure i drop it why even bother...

night marten
#

probly for the best

turbid silo
night marten
#

@fathom umbra also not needed

main frigate
#

Glad to hear you find something for fun

inner finch
#

mods, take away all his crafting materials

fathom umbra
#

Real

primal abyss
#

The RNG will intact her own sense of justice groleshades

#

this is a joke

vocal sonnet
#

you'll never guess what im playing

#

🌪️

fathom umbra
#

Warlock?

inner finch
#

oh, so you're the Shaman

#

we found him

vocal sonnet
#

I dont know how to do a spin to win when I cant both gifs

inner finch
#

Sentinel_VoidKnight🌀

vocal sonnet
#

I feel like I've lost a part of myself

drowsy olive
west ivy
#

gonna try to play spell VK
unsure if I want DoT or direct hit...

drowsy olive
inner finch
#

This is why we spoon

soft palm
#

Season four has a release date, right

inner finch
#

🥄

#

Ladloids unite

primal abyss
drowsy olive
soft palm
#

Thx

west ivy
#

you say spoon but I'm thinking of forgotten knight set

ancient surge
#

We are now "the answer" number of people interested.

inner finch
#

Thanks, but i prefer Omen Linux

fathom umbra
ancient surge
#

We are now formerly "the answer" number of people interested.

severe socket
#

That, plus PoE1 by that time was giga punishing for altoholics like me.

#

So... yeah. The experience made me chuck the franchise into the open space.

inner finch
#

You can't force yourself to like something you have given a fair chance to and dislike

#

Its ok

ancient surge
#

I forced myself to "git good" while playing PoE. Got good 5000 hours in and another 1500 hours later, LE became prevalent for me and also PoE2 beta and some staff changes made me naively hopeful that it can get better. Nowadays, LE is the only arpg I give actual consideration to, PoE2 got itself uninstalled, so there's that?
That said, if you ask me, 234 hours is you sparing yourself in the long run.

fathom umbra
#

I think i have 700 last i checked? Oh no...1300 Kappa

outer tundra
# severe socket Those 234 hours I have in PoE1 kinda ended the franchise for me, I'm afraid.

I started to feel good about PoE 1 only after 700 hours (taking other people's builds and remaking them for myself, increasing damage and/or defense, I still can't come up with full-fledged builds from scratch)
There are a LOT of mechanics, both in the atlas and externally. Lots of interactions between uniques, skills, and supports (especially those new since 3.28).
Therefore, it will take a certain amount of time to get a good feel in the game

ancient surge
#

The trick to poe is to never engage with all the mechanics at the same time. And that's kind of crappy when going in fresh, how will you know what mechanic makes better sense for your build when you don't know how they all work?

runic oyster
#

why does the new amulet have wording of "-1% less"

ancient surge
#

But seriously, it takes thousands of hours to get enough of a grip on that franchise to even understand the basics of gear crafting, a reasonable sense for what affixes matter on what gear and maybe a good time bossing, possibly getting into ubers.
If you have the inclination to get into it, sure, go for it, strap in, see you a couple thousand hours later. Before that range, you're basically still learning the basics.
The kicker? All that to learn how it's.... not a very fun game when you look at it as whole. Unless your fun is spending lots of time grinding to attempt this crafting project, consuming all that up in never getting the results you're after, selling off a failed craft for a modicum to try again and playing a bunch more to just get back to where you were in terms of making gear for yourself.

So, yes, in a backhanded way, LE is in a sweet spot. It ticks all the necessary boxes for a good time. Now, I'm not going to say I know ALL the prominent arpgs, but from my 3 franchises with ample experience behind... Skip PoE, you'll be doing yourself a favor when looking back.

severe socket
#

The absolute brutality against the player when it comes to alts and making "mistakes" during building a character (as in build flexibility being made seemingly-deliberately nonexistent) and the absolute raging WTAF regarding gear RNG and barter economy (as in literally pigeonholing players into the most ridiculous form of barter in my personal experience) were the key factors for me.

thorny barn
#

to be fair trading has improved a lot since we have merchant tabs in Poe 1 & 2.

severe socket
#

Like, yeah, I understand that gear has to have some degree of RNG so that players keep spinning that hamster wheel, but to that extent... nope.

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And yes, as a raging altoholic and someone with a huge urge for experimenting, the sheer wall I faceplanted myself into at hypersonic speed during my playthrough on four different characters made me realize that I'm never gonna achieve anything in that game. Mindlessly copypasting someone else's math because the game brutally punishes anything else felt giga wrong, and fixing all those "mistakes" was (still is? I dunno) expensive. Not to mention the math itself almost feeling like an actual job for those who do it in the first place.

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As life-draining as monolith grind can get, even that feels somewhat better than whatever the hell is going on in the Atlas.

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Again; in my own eyes.

ancient surge
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To be fair, I had an acquaintance within my long stint with poe1 that I would always jokingly ask how his 10th alt was going along. While he was on his 12th. And he would do end-game stuff.
Catch is, actually making your own build there... Best not to try, unless you earn money doing it.

severe socket
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...yeah.

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I don't want to run a game just to feel like I'm working a second job that doesn't reward me for the insane grind when I have an actual job and parenting to do.

ancient surge
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People joke about degrees and that franchise, but you need to be on PHD levels with the game to stand a chance of making a good build. That's a lot of time and effort...

severe socket
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Hence the boot up poe's entire franchise's rear in my book.

ancient surge
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I am only offering the perspective of a grizzled veteran of that franchise that I am glad to leave it behind.

severe socket
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We're on the same page, I think.

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LE, as flawed and illogical as it is in certain places (heck, in a lot of places, deliberately so, it seems), still lets me unwind after a stupid day.

ancient surge
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Caveat being you said you have... 234 hours? I have a combined nearly 9000... (in both 1 and 2)

severe socket
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Honestly, I don't need that much time sunk into something to figure out that it's not for me. 🙂

ancient surge
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It maybe should... add weight to the idea that it's not all that well spent time.

severe socket
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Then again, I have like 3706 hours sunken into Grim Dawn. 😅

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Zero regrets about that one, actually.

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That one was a full whiff of fresh air for me as a huge TQ fan back in the day.

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Doubly so considering the fact that the very same people who made TQ also made GD, triply so for them using the same, albeit heavily improved, base engine.

ancient surge
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Did a quick check... 10 years since I started seriously playing arpgs with poe1. Never gave too much of a thought to the genre prior. Played my Diablo 2 in its prime and moved on with other stuff.

severe socket
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Diablo 2 LoD and a couple of random mods were my bread and butter back in the day as well.

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Specifically Grapes of Wrath.

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That one was... something.

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No idea who made it, but it turned the whole game upside down for sure.

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Anyways... it quickly faded away when TQ came out.

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Then TQ:IT.

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Then it was a lull. For a while. Until GD's early-access reached content-complete state.

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Then it was PoE. Bestiary specifically.

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And then someone pointed me toward LE while it was still in EA.

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IIRC, it was during 0.8.something back then.

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Stuck with it ever since.

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Except right now I'm on hiatus until s4 releases.

acoustic palm
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Tbh ,it is fine if some people prefer more challenging content or things, some people unwind with chess, some like to empty their brain and just press q q q q q and win, both are valid

severe socket
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I want EHG to finally apply some healthy logic to rogue's kit for a change. No offense to them whatsoever, but their views on her kit are... unorthodox to understate.

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Especially true for marksman. She's butchered over there.

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Doubly so when we bring up Jelkhor's Blast Knife and Ravager's Dart.

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What are we, a GW2's ranger? Why the melee/thrown obsession for a BOW-favoring mastery?

ancient surge
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Indeed, whatever unwinds a person. Or whatever fills what one's day job lacks.

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And that said, take care, for bed is calling.

severe socket
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Same, actually.

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Have a good one 👋

tender marsh
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Hmmm. Can you use up Legendary Potential before you corrupt or will it just get rid of those no matter what? like if I use up 2LP on a red ring will it remove both of the stats I put on it then corrupt will it lock me from corrupting if you use the LP?

elfin tundra
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Another day has ended, without a cute fit gf with nice feet, another sad day.. 🙁

inner finch
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...

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Anyway, come get those custom LEDs in all shapes and sizes

night marten
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stop posting it

willow sentinel
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Gosh, what the name of that dude?

south moat
robust solstice
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You heard it here first. Skill Sigils are going to be a Diablo 2 Rune-like system for your skills.

south moat
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What do you mean?
diablo 2 runes don't work like that

robust solstice
viral halo
robust solstice
# south moat ... Do you mean diablo 3 style?

sure but those were preset, so closer to diablo 2 where the runes did different things, obviously the runes didnt work with the skills, im just speaking in terms of the rune system itself

inner finch
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I would expect the idea of "skill sigil" to be a modifier that can work with most if not all other branches of a skill tree

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a seperate mechanical modifier in addition

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Not something as simple as an element change

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Knowing EHG and their love of blowing up every feature from a 7 day dev work to a 30 day dev work, it will probably be more than just insertable, it will also be upgradeable with different tiers

broken siren
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Last Epoch makes me happy 🙂

night marten
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also sigils have been being worked on for literal years now. no way it is a small system

broken siren
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what happened to Sweet Goat? I haven't heard of them in a while

robust solstice
broken siren
night marten
turbid silo
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Who's excited to corrupt some items 😉

broken siren
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me!!!

turbid silo
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Cause I know I am lol

broken siren
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im going to keep corrupting items until I reach the ultimate item

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with all the amazing affixes

robust solstice
night marten
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just that sentence makes my head hurt

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gonna need a ingame magnifier to read all the text on it

broken siren
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he will find you, traveler

inner finch
night marten
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1000%

broken siren
turbid silo
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Yeah, that 7 affix primordial like whoa

broken siren
turbid silo
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I'm the Player Experience Manager 🙂

broken siren
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yay! 😄

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I tthink this update will be great for the player experience!!

south moat
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Player experience manager manages the nerds playing the game, yes

turbid silo
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I think it'll do some fun things to everyone's experien ce

half vigil
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does wildfire embers work with minions like skeletons?

night marten
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pretty sure its only your skills

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since it says when you direct cast

south moat
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Anyway, getting closer to midnight here so I should sleep
Looking forward to the hype tomorrow

broken siren
turbid silo
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I dunno exactly tho

broken siren
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and Judd is your boss?

turbid silo
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Well, I mean, he's everyone's boss technically heh

broken siren
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haha 😄

muted cape
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120? Crazzzy

night marten
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20% increase from before

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thats pretty big tbh

inner finch
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considering onboarding and all, Orobyss exp better blow my mind

broken siren
turbid silo
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That would be nifty!

viral halo
broken siren
ornate siren
broken siren
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Yeah Derrick is awesome!!

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🙂

heady night
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cant wait for tomorrows rogue stuff! shadow gang!

ornate siren
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Yup

coarse swallow
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I love seeing how many people are picking up on the new vanity roles! As a side note: there is a new "Corrupted" Vanity role available for Season 4 Gregory corrupted_icon

(You can pick a Vanity Role through the "Channels and Rules" tab, which assigns a special icon and title to show next to your name in chat to represent)

inner finch
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ill take the corrupted one when i brick a good item and lose my temper.

calm jay
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Yeeeees.... yeeeees

silent pivot
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For anyone (like me) that wanted to examine the alternate attributes in combination with Exulis:

Vitality: 6 Health + 1% Poison & Necrotic Resistance per point. Converts to:
    Rampancy:
        3% increased effectiveness of Frenzy per point.
        0.1% more damage taken while you don't have Frenzy per point.
        Exulis (Unique Amulet): +5% increased effect of Haste per 10 Rampancy
Strength: 4% Armor per point. Converts to:
    Brutality:
        0.05% more damage for melee attacks per 1 mana cost (up to max 20, multiplicative with other modifiers) per point.
        Globally reduces Health Leech by 0.5% per point.
        Exulis (Unique Amulet): +2% Increased Health per 10 Brutality
Dexterity: 4 Dodge rating per point. Converts to:
    Guile:
        0.3% cooldown recovery speed for movement skills per point.
        1% reduced armor per point.
        Exulis (Unique Amulet): +1% Chance to take 0 damage when hit per 10 Guile
Intelligence: 2% Ward Retention per point. Converts to:
    Madness:
        1% Spell Critical Multiplier per point.
        1% increased bonus damage taken from critical strikes per point.
        Exulis (Unique Amulet): +4% Increased Area for Area Spells per 10 Madness
Attunement: 2 Mana per point. Converts to:
    Apathy:
        2% increased Mana Regeneration per point
        0.2% of Current Health lost when you directly use a skill per point.
        Exulis (Unique Amulet): +1% Less Necrotic, Void, and Poison damage taken per 10 Apathy
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Madness seems kinda OP not gonna lie

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basically zero downside for giga damage and AoE

primal bough
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yeah Apathy as well

silent pivot
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Apathy could be interesting with The Butcher's Crown

primal bough
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yep

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Apathy should be no downsides for casters

silent pivot
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Rampancy is free real estate if you're playing a ward build, I'm not really sold on brutality or guile though

primal bough
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yeah losing armor is kinda not happening

strange umbra
stray glen
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Brutality and Rampancy my favorites so far. Guile the worst.

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For glass cannon builds at least.

muted cape
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OHH RAMPANCY LOL

stray glen
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For "normal" builds the standart attributes are still better.

muted cape
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Muffin i was wrong I need that for my minion build!

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ramp having frenzy effect is wild

viral halo
muted cape
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My relic bout to pop off dusting this build off 2 years later

muted cape
viral halo
simple bison
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They generally don't release info like that

viral halo
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We won't get told, but i thought i will try anyway

simple bison
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for example to this day they still haven't officially confirmed that the lp odds on tunklab and LET are correct. But we know they are with certainty nowadays so there's no need for confirmation anymore

quartz aspen
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Bruh I need details on what Umbral blades is getting now that it's not just a blade storm skill. My kingdom for it being a unique usable DPS option

primal bough
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umbral needs a rework that was only usuable part of the tree

muted cape
viral halo
simple bison
quartz aspen
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The recalling shift concept is so cool it just needs some power behind it

muted cape
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Dammit and such the usual

simple bison
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but ehg are unlikely to

muted cape
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They might say odds

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1 in a million or such

primal bough
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like the one node that makes it target when recall but wish it would all focus one target

quartz aspen
carmine smelt
viral halo
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Dont say op in here, there are devs around xD

simple bison
primal bough
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dont forget increase area with new chase item

simple bison
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The aoe bonus is kinda negligable tbh, 40% per 100 is very little

muted cape
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Rampancy is op

simple bison
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mage aoe's are already pretty big so the difference in radius is going to be pretty small

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But it is something for sure

merry abyss
pulsar carbon
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Uh... what's with the 1.1 GB update? New Support packs out before S4 launch?

muted cape
sturdy acorn
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nu

balmy arrow
broken trench
main frigate
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I think we need corrupted lizard and Gregory emojis too...

silent pivot
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you know, now that corruption exists (and is clearly distinct from the void).. I need to know

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what happens if a lizard gets corrupted?

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I'm gonna try to use a rune of corruption on the first lizard tail I get RuneofCorruption

primal bough
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2 Uberroths show up

inner finch
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what's next, a giant lizard miniboss with exotic loot?

silent pivot
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step aside uber aberroth, uber lenny as arrived lizard_Lenny

sharp hedge
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whats sthe general reception to corruption

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shit looks fun ngl

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with the altars too

inner finch
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We gonna have to see how far and how crazy this can get

main frigate
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I'm surprised people still ask paradox class after it's announced 3 months+

main frigate
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So you can enjoy your cupcakes when you're gaming

heady night
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13 hours and 40 minutes left

summer tapir
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Do we know what treasure hunt item will be this season?

strange umbra
main frigate
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Oh sorry to hear Derrick can't enjoy cupcakes