#💬┃general

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chrome basalt
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Wouldn't the whole point be to duplicate the exalted not to craft it as such, I would enjoy if we could put rares into it, since I have issues with certain items seeming to just never drop at all even as single tier 6 exalted or tier 7 ones lol

night marten
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infinite FP with how you are describing

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you could just imprint the rare?

chrome basalt
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Do you mean on the weaver tree because I have already done that

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still using a rare 1h axe since the start of the game lol

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It drops when you are around its level range levelling up, then I never see it again lol

night marten
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yeah thats the purpose of the imprints...to makethings drop similar to it

chrome basalt
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yeah it still doesnt make it drop more

night marten
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k

zealous siren
# night marten infinite FP with how you are describing

they could make it possible that an exalted can only once be upgraded by nemesis egg, or limit the forging potential that can be gained, i think there are some possibilities to make this work, because i think forging potential has always been kinda low and also its really hard to get good exaltets with more than 1 tier7

chrome basalt
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fortunately runes of envy exist but they still don't help much, I bet if I got to the actual campaign area that is around that level like I used to do it will drop there.

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in 97 level I have the rare I originally got during campaign, and then one exalted that dropped. the only thing I have filtered for any exalted with 1 tier 6 affix or more is bow lol

night marten
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and its not really even that bad with the imprints

chrome basalt
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if you say so, I also have never seen a single item with 50fp yet that you just mentioned, anything around 43 is the most I seem to get so that seems wrong as well that you said

night marten
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lmaooooooo

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k

brittle hollow
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I used to get a ton out of Nemesis in the 48-50 range actually. Nemesis is awesome for getting high FP. If you are lucky you also get a good exalt out of it as well

chrome basalt
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I mean, what stage of the game are we talking about here seems relevant to ask? Are we just farming stuff we don't need, in the late game or are people getting to late game with all rares mostly?

zealous siren
chrome basalt
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Arguing about it doesn't change what I am currently looking at in my playthrough, I really don't care about the FP it just seemed exaggerative to me as my fp hasn't reached that yet, unless this sort of progression only happens after Aberroth or whatever his name is as I am about to fight him soon, and then get into the boring grind of just min-maxxing, but I am still using a rare axe is my point the progression feels flat in that respect that this specific TYPE of axe seems to rarely drop at all, even when imprinted, and I am sure people will say oh you haven't really started yet if only at 300 corruption, but having so many exalteds, and still on one rare axe I've been hunting since the start feels broken is my point when its easy to get pretty much any other exalted type it feels. I am unsure why this particular one feels so actually rare in comparison to other items.

night marten
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took all of 7 minutes to load into a game at 134 corruption to find an exalt in the 50s

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not counting things that were filtered out

chrome basalt
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I mean, that is not evidence or proof of anything other than, one exists, and I am not trusting your word on anything as that is the entire point of the debate to begin with lol, argue away I don't really care

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bye

night marten
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you asked what stage of the game

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i answered

zealous siren
night marten
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with proof

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sorry it burst ya bubble

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but its definately not 'exaggerative' and 'after Aberroth'

tardy bison
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what axe base are you talking about?

zealous siren
balmy arrow
frank bramble
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I already know I won't be able to but it's good how it is anyway so it's fine

obtuse bay
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yo, hows going guys

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happy holidays for everyone ❤️

simple bison
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Happy holidays! Bee

south moat
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Thanks, you too mate

median perch
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It's been raining for three hours and it still hasn't stopped, so today I'll just stay home and chill instead of going out 🦎

shut quiver
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Rain in these temps...damn

tardy bison
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it's 72f here today sunny and warm 🌞

zinc blaze
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-17 here, on its way to -40

brittle hollow
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C or F?

zinc blaze
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-40 is the same in both so pick your favorite

brittle hollow
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Oh, always Celsius

low cradle
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Do we know what skills are beng looked at with the blade dancer rework besides obviously "Umbral blades does too much."

night marten
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but it should be pretty much all the skills getting touched in some fashion. the 'reworks' normally touch pretty much everything

velvet marsh
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if i equip 2 siphon of anguish, does the chance to apply doom stack ?

zinc blaze
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Yes

prisma folio
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gosh i gotta do temporal sanctum

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i got lp2 downfall of the righteous and an exalted grail that only has 2 modifier

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necrotic and fire damage

scenic fog
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very nice!

prisma folio
zinc blaze
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You got this

scenic fog
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I had the same apprehension when I got started a few weeks ago.

prisma folio
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im lower level than the zone

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but i've been clearing out some higher level monoliths

prisma folio
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what a shame

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it's ok, it's gonna be a little while before im ready for lvl 90 jura

scenic fog
zinc blaze
prisma folio
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pain

prisma folio
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my clear speed feels quite nice

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i love movement speed

prisma folio
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Do torment, damned, ignite benefit from increased curse damage?

frank bramble
prisma folio
frank bramble
zinc blaze
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Gamba gamba

prisma folio
frank bramble
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Gamba gotta gamba

frank bramble
prisma folio
frank bramble
willow sentinel
prisma folio
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Ah ok

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I really need more ward

short vessel
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crap

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my farming is gonna slow down a lot

balmy arrow
lavish cypress
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Is the next season really not until March?

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I feel like these seasons drag on way too long

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When did this one start, like 3 months ago or more yeah?

lean berry
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Late August, so 4 months and yes next season is late March. I think most people agree the "off-season" periods are too long.

frank bramble
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Especially adding the fact that there are two factions and after ~3 months only one of them is viable and nothing's being done about that, that's fkin sad

lean berry
frank bramble
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CoF

zinc blaze
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Merchants guild falls off as the season goes on

lean berry
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I see. Makes sense I guess. MG is very strong and the most popular faction in a new season, I'm fairly sure. But with supply dropping off and inflation creeping up, maybe it's not so great late season.

frank bramble
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I constantly see people complaining about sales amount on MG, people simply do not have the gold required to buy high ticket items because they can't make gold with sales since nobody's buying shit

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I'm in a possession of some pretty damn rare items and so what if even multiple percent below the lowest price they are still too expensive for players and listings for stuff I need remain at the same price so everything takes sooooo long to farm gold for, honestly speaking there should be a time threshold after which prices on listed items start decreasing automatically by small amounts

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99% of people with 2-month-old+ listings probably aren't playing anymore so they wouldn't even care if their item sold for 90M or 50M, they actually wouldn't care at all

brittle hollow
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I agree and if you have not this is an excellent #suggestions

frank bramble
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Watched too much storage wars omegalul

brittle hollow
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Yeah it’s an excellent suggestion lol

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I went MG this season and couldn’t sell anything either

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Which means I couldn’t buy

frank bramble
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Exactly, i sold a lot which gave me a real chance of getting the items I needed but now? Items are there but money is not

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Not going to be able to keep the money flow up by selling 5% briar idols for 40k each xD

frank bramble
brittle hollow
frank bramble
# brittle hollow Done

Appreciate it, I really hope MG gets some love, it did already but it needs much more as we all can see

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It just feels sad to have to recommend CoF to new players even as a MG player since we know what's going on there after a few months

burnt crest
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Are they still releasing paid classes?

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Or backed down? Been traveling for over a month and haven’t kept updates on it

lean berry
burnt crest
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Ah sadge

cold ridge
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Can I not add spaces to my character name? Doesnt seem to allow me to add spaces, or any special symbol like a ,

simple bison
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Yeah don't think you can

cold ridge
main frigate
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How are we celebrate new year last year?

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I wonder any traditions here

inner finch
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Eating a lot, sleeping a lot, mentally preparing for another year

south moat
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I'm usually asleep by the time they start blasting the fireworks tbh

main frigate
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I'm appreciated your ability to sleep in a noisy environment tom

south moat
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Oh the noise from the fireworks isn't that loud in my apartment
they don't blast them right next to it

obtuse bay
neat plank
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Hello everyone, is there anyone else online in the game? )

short vessel
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lol, got lucky with crafting some new speed setup gauntlets

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farsighted 9 blood roosts, one with high rolled mods got 2lp, hit the t7 hybrid health t5 attunement slam on it first try

balmy arrow
short vessel
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i do funny things for speed

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primordial MS boots

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blood roost on a beastmaster

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used to run archmages endeavour with minion DoT slammed lul

pulsar carbon
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Merry Christmas y'all! santa_gregory

south moat
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Thanks, you too!

torpid belfry
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Merry Christmas!

zinc blaze
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santa_gregory 🎁

calm jay
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Merry Christmas all!

shut quiver
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Merry christmas!

simple bison
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Merry Christmas! santa_gregory

severe socket
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Merry Christmas, everyone. 🙏

zinc terrace
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Merry Christmas all!

main frigate
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Muffin is the only EHG member with us now

native owl
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Merry Christmas to all yall and yalls family

main frigate
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!!!! Wild Hawg!

main frigate
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Your meme videos are too fun to watch (You have a magic to make me laugh accurately)

inner finch
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This is a domestic hawg

tulip niche
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What build could theoretically push the highest corruption?

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It probably used to be some kind of zHP Falconer build but idk what it would be these days

balmy arrow
tulip niche
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It's still Ballista? And 40k? Damn that's insane XD

barren mural
balmy arrow
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lmao

balmy arrow
tulip niche
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Crazy, GG dude XD

barren mural
tulip niche
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Can I see your profile?

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Want to check your gear

barren mural
tulip niche
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Sure, if you have time that'd be great

barren mural
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1- many issue in this game . matema and algorht etc..

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when i go high gears sometimes my dmg lowering- i using this setup and going so good

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so i have perfect items but this really good. this just game issue .. u know

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and fk my english btw:)

slow cloudBOT
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Falconer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (8) / Marksman (25) / Falconer (60)

General:

▸ Health: 1,210, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 222.24, Regen: 9.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 112%, Regen: 19/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 221 Dex / 56 Int / 8 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 6% / -110% / 13% / -170% / 85% / 57% / 94%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 242
▸ Dodge Chance: 40% (1449)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (518)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 25%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 112%

Used skills:

Umbral Blades / Ballista / Aerial Assault / Falconry / Smoke Bomb

tulip niche
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So if your gear is too good you get less damage?

barren mural
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yea

tulip niche
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Like your damage is overflowing? XD

barren mural
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i bricked 17 4lp 7776 tier bow

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and quiver and others

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somethings going wrong in game

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we speakon with devs already

tulip niche
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oof

barren mural
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matematic wrong in this game

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u and me or others cannot calculate

balmy arrow
barren mural
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cuz all wrong

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hahaha

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explain: we played yesterday with deradikon

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he playing almost with ABOM build

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he dong almost 0 dmg:)

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but when i come in the map

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doing higher dmg:)

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am i wrong?

balmy arrow
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orobyss 15 sec? xD

barren mural
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like this

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but ur abom dying without me in 1 shoot:)

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somethings wrong in game

balmy arrow
barren mural
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just 65k health%

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🙂

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hahaha

tulip niche
barren mural
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sometimes i killing the orobys in 20 30sec

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sometimes around in 3 4 hr

balmy arrow
barren mural
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cuz they have ultra health

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in 3 4 hr for hardest boss:) so killin in normally in 4 5min

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i can play forever with all orobys i know the mechanics

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but just hard orobys '' blood raing from blood effigy

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this boos really broken

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check this this orobys easy?

balmy arrow
barren mural
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so sometimes maps ending in 1 min. sometimes in 25 min

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check my videos u will understand me

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game issuee

barren mural
balmy arrow
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I'm already out of ideas for builds(

tulip niche
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I don't think I could fight a boss for 5min on a zHP build lol

balmy arrow
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I think I've already redone everything

barren mural
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🙂

balmy arrow
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😭

barren mural
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i hope they fix thats

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i know other issue in this game

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but i will just wait

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i reported million times

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we will see in next season

tulip niche
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I wouldn't hold my breath for it

barren mural
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like metal gear solid:)

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i saying all the time.. really so good:)

tulip niche
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Going to give it a try, I do suffer quite badly from a little know affliction called "skill issue" though XD

barren mural
tulip niche
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Damn XD

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What are your thoughts on Jungle Queen vs Orion?

barren mural
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check crafy

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craft

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mana potion on use

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16 potion with this belt

tulip niche
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Yeah, wasn't really sure how important it was to have that many potions

barren mural
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and actually we need 50+ pot :))) not enough sometimes on bosses:)

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pick upp all potions from ground

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after spam ballista and go

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i cannot recommen the orion belt

balmy arrow
barren mural
barren mural
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if u dont do this

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u cannot deal max dmg

tulip niche
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Might be worth trying for potion drop chance over minion damage on prefix for belt then

strange umbra
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Happy Holidays Eterra 🙂

barren mural
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so... first spam 6 ballista - use Aerial Assult ( jump) use smoke bomb and use falconer .within 1 sec all:)

frank bramble
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Happy holidays too from drunk me, lots of love to all of you ❤️

barren mural
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u need certainly thats

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and bow already

barren mural
frank bramble
barren mural
zinc blaze
inner finch
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He died - for our sins

zinc blaze
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He died trying to protect us from the stinky fried chicken bird

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I can’t wait for when we get to stab Mr bird with the lance

balmy arrow
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Lizard gang

zinc blaze
main frigate
obtuse bay
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join to lizard gang

tulip niche
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What's the purpose of Umbral Blade @barren mural ?

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Looks like it is to generate Glancing Blow chance but I am not sure why

barren mural
tulip niche
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Would speccing into Decoy be better for you?

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You get a lot of useful buffs as well as a decent amount of crit multi

barren mural
barren mural
tulip niche
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Hmm

barren mural
barren mural
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check copy in the middle

tulip niche
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Got to love that overkill damage XD

barren mural
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also i forget the take picture but i saw 374m dmg:)

tulip niche
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Oh damn lol

barren mural
barren mural
tulip niche
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My faith in EHG dwindles with every day sadly

barren mural
barren mural
tulip niche
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For sure, it's a lot but they have been really slow to the gun for a long time now

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It's really no surprise they ran out of money

barren mural
tulip niche
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More or less yeah

barren mural
tulip niche
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I was really hopeful this game would be the game that replaces PoE for me but that hope has been dying slowly but surely

barren mural
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i saying again. if they cannot this issues from this game.

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i ll use all issuues

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btw no exploit in game

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just more and more bug

tulip niche
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I have 20k hours in PoE and I am just really burnt out and LE is something I really got behind but sadly it's not looking good from my perspective

barren mural
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but really i loved this game since alpha beta

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but really broke game

tulip niche
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I started this game around the same time the multiplayer went into beta

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Been watching the game for a lot longer though

barren mural
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just push button and go:)

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and close ur eyes:)

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cuz LE still better than for me diablo 4 and poe2:)

tulip niche
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That's more or less why I do

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D4 for sure, that game isn't for me either but PoE2? They're very different I think

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PoE2 needs a lot more work though but it's trying to be something very different from your typical ARPG

barren mural
tulip niche
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I don't think I have that in PoE2 tbh

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Probably closer to 150 hours I'd guess

barren mural
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hahaa

tulip niche
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And PoE1 is easily over 20k

south moat
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I've total of 80hours in poe2

barren mural
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streamers playing 24/7 wtf really:)

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i cant

tulip niche
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I really like PoE2 but I'd honestly rather just wait

south moat
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oh wait, no
That was the last 2 weeks one
actually 240hours

tulip niche
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I trust GGG to make a great game

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It just needs time

barren mural
tulip niche
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Really? Fair enough

south moat
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It needs a game director who actually plays the game, including end game

barren mural
zinc blaze
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I miss Chris

barren mural
zinc blaze
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It’s nice that he does high quality YouTube videos now

south moat
tulip niche
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I think Jonathon, I love Chris but I think he was a little to set with his "vision" XD

zinc blaze
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Jonathan needs to get more experience

tulip niche
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100%

barren mural
south moat
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I don't agree with all his decisions but at least he could be convinced that hey this thing isn't good

tulip niche
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He needed a lot of convincing but yeah

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Killed PoE1? PoE1 isn't dead?

barren mural
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“Jonathon is a very arrogant person.”

tulip niche
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What did he change that you didn't like?

barren mural
tulip niche
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I did yeah

zinc blaze
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The for fun league?

barren mural
tulip niche
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I don't understand the point you're trying to make

barren mural
zinc blaze
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Still sad the behemoth was just worse than no ascendancy

barren mural
zinc blaze
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Auras too strong

barren mural
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agree

zinc blaze
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I do like the poe1 shift from auras giving flat stat to that being on higher tier bases

main frigate
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Oh I see why Muffin still here.

He's taking care of the server

south moat
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I think he just can't resist checking even when he's on holiday

main frigate
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heavybreathing Happy day of EHG's cable is cut

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heavybreathing A bit pity that can't see 0 EHG member is online

inner finch
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Sometimes people are online because their computers are turned on

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or phones are on the discord app

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don't worry, when they come back you could probe them and ask them individually about everything they do, and every minute they spend here

south moat
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Honestly, I don't care what the people do during their holidays
As long as they actually manage to relax some

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and also disconnect

frank bramble
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Yeah everyone needs some time with their families

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Since we don't have another

strange umbra
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Lol

south moat
barren mural
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İngilizce çevirisi:

“This game is completely broken.”

inner finch
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santa_gregory ho ho ho to you too

short vessel
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random 4lp hand of judgement drop!

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which i totally would've used in my uberroth gear

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...if it didn't roll hot garbage on the attunement

frank bramble
short vessel
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yeah it's literally the only thing i care about on em lol

frank bramble
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Yeah I got like 6 pairs of HoJ 3lp this season, only one was sellable because every other pair is like 5 or fkin 7 attunement

short vessel
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well i've got nothing else to spend my favour on so might as well see if i can't get a better 4lp of them

frank bramble
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Even rerolled one pair recently with other 3 pairs at gauntlet of strife, max roll I got was 8 xD

frank bramble
short vessel
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nah

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not worth the imprinting time

frank bramble
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Hm that might be true, on the other hand the odds aren't bad

short vessel
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sure, but it's not that much of an upgrade (little bit more armor and armor dot mit)

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compared to the planned double T7 exalted eternals

frank bramble
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Ahh then yep not worth it

short vessel
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plus i can just spam prophecies and then farsight all of the ones that drop with LP (basically all) for very little opportunity cost

frank bramble
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Tru dat

muted cape
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I got some nice Christmas loot but no wengari BBQ yet

frank bramble
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I got some of that loot too, nobody buys it tho so I can't take chances for an upgrade 😭 any gold donation is welcome thank you

frank bramble
short vessel
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it hella is

frank bramble
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Within reach except for that belt, that's hella rare

short vessel
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well i mean

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don't need to worry bout that anymore

frank bramble
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Oh well one problem less then omegalul

short vessel
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honestly the helmet is gonna be harder than the belt i feel

frank bramble
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87555 helmet sounds hard yeah

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Doable but tough, 50% on the evolution already makes it harder

short vessel
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tbf, my boots and belt also have that sorta 50/50

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the main thing is just the FP

frank bramble
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Yep FP is gonna suck real hard for those

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Already seeing those -16 -15 -11 rolls in 3 upgrades omegalul

coarse swallow
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Merry Christmas Travelers santa_gregory

inner finch
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santa_gregory 🎄 🎁

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Merry xmas and happy holidays

balmy arrow
sage shuttle
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21 minoins on my necro... its a bit silly

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thats with an empowered abom (i sack reavers and zombies to it)

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i really need to figure out a loot filter for my build..

manic crest
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Hello to the sellout company!

quartz moat
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well i beat uber aberroth, maybe thats it for this season

lean berry
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Grats

prisma folio
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think i can take on lvl 90 jura at level 78?

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we boutta find out

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...nvm lmao got beat

prisma folio
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lmaooo ok i got it down

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managed to handle jura

steady bison
balmy arrow
obtuse bay
radiant kiln
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Guys is T8 not a thing? Because every guide I see only shows T7 as aspirational

simple heart
sly wasp
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i've tried experimenting with crafted primordials and most items just don't have a combination of good enough affixess and enough forging potential to optimize it to justify doing that

scenic fog
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I named my latest necromancer Scarf, most people won't understand.

cobalt fable
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ok im done with poe 2

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is this game alive?

simple heart
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It is a solo game, just like poe so you play whenever you want.

fathom umbra
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There'll be a new season in March, but otherwise its very much SSF Doable, in fact there are systems in place to help you target gear you want, way more easily

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Trade is sorta pushed off into Merchant Guild faction for the most part, but you can go Circle of Fortune faction, to better help you farm SSF items

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Then there's a imprinting system w/ a seperate faction (you can be CoF and this other faction), Weaver's Will, and you can imprint items to have a increased chance of dropping in world

balmy arrow
sly wasp
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Legit think that it probs has the best SSF support of any arpg. I exclusively play it that way. The market is kinda… weird once a season has been going on this long

prisma folio
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whatcha guys think of Mortality's Grasp?

main frigate
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santa_gregory 2 weeks after poe 2 0.4 is released. But I just get access to have fun in poe 2 days ago... I want to try Amazon later. Played lich 2 leagues, time to learn more builds

prisma folio
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it's a solid downgrade from poe1

fathom umbra
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Im just not big brained enough to play the supply/demand

prisma folio
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i prefer to grind and make steady progress all the time than be completely reliant on blind luck

fathom umbra
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i mean... versus grinding as cof? :3

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I thnk you left out maybe that you prefer the aspect of spending gold? ;3

prisma folio
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oh no

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i tried cof season 1

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my issue with it has more to do with needing a specific item and not having a way to guarantee it

fathom umbra
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At the surface, cof and mg are both grinds, what's greater about MG for you? ;3

prisma folio
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versus it being entirely RNG based

fathom umbra
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maybe, but the market's jsut gonna be inflated for any meta build

prisma folio
night marten
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its not just 'meta' builds. its anything that has inherent global value. anything with hybrid health, anything +4 skills. etc. it all gets dumb expensive in mg

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but yea...thats the idea between mg and cof. cof is a gamble for drops, can be fast or can be hella slow. but mg is just a click away, assuming you can afford it

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some people like the grind, some people like pressing a button

scenic fog
#

I would love a third faction that specifies a challenge and chooses an item they get to win for satisfying the challenge, not like the prophecies, you actually customize exactly what you want to drop and the game produces a fitting challenge to get it.

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a warrior faction

prisma folio
night marten
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thats an interesting idea. think there are quite a few exploitable holes in that tho without some restrictions. and obv what the challenges would be

prisma folio
#

makes the gamba a bit easier

night marten
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yup. mg is the 'i want this now' faction. lots of people like it for that. lots like it for the selling part

prisma folio
#

whereas with COF it increases the amount of chances you have to get the item you want, but it's still not a guarantee like it is with MG

scenic fog
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If you ask for an uber item, like something that is god teir, the challenge needs to be god teir as well.

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Like "Defeat Uber Aberroth without taking damage.... 3 times..."

prisma folio
#

it could be tied into the weaver system

prisma folio
#

Let's say you have a 90% chance to get junk and a 10% chance to get something useful from killing soul warden for example, cause you want ashes of mortality maybe

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just using this as an example

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If you kill him once, and you don't get ashes of mortality, you also haven't made any progress to getting ashes of mortality

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in essence you've spent time doing nothing

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the next time you fight him, it's the same ratio

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and especially when you start looking for specific affixes and rolls on those affixes so you can eternity cache them and then have to deal with that RNG too... it's a pain

fathom umbra
scenic fog
#

Someone said no one uses Void Cleave in the meta... Challenge accepted.

quartz moat
#

so even in the worst case scenario you will be able to get the prophecy item you want instead of doing hundreds of prophecies without getting it

balmy arrow
scenic fog
#

Anyone ever thought about making a character built around Thicket of Blinding Light, totally reflect as much as possible and then naming the character "PopcornFart"? Or just silly ol me?

south moat
obtuse bay
meager mulch
#

This game is dead

inner finch
main frigate
#

yes, le is sleeping in peace

south moat
#

Honestly, probably better that way
Surely he'll try it if you give it as a gift

median perch
#

🦎

stoic frigate
scenic fog
#

Meta builds named PopcornFart I hope.

#

Those monsters just can't bear the stench, and they combust.

tardy bison
short vessel
#

Me and my fartscorpion

vivid hinge
#

I wanna start a new a character, should I do campaign again or can I just join someone running high corruption and leech xp from em?

zinc blaze
#

You can do monos the first time you reach the end of time

sly wasp
#

there's a stiff penalty to leeching with a large level difference tho and it's usually faster to do the msq for a while

vivid hinge
#

Ok

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Thanks

vagrant citrus
#

really hope we get a hideout equivalent one day

zinc blaze
#

Being able to decorate the lil post echo island would be fun

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Or even just have my pets I don’t have following me be chilling there

muted cape
#

Yeah hideouts would be amazing, and good way to monetize

#

Just fortnite le and release the cosmetic imagination! Ill take a david harbor pack 😅

zinc blaze
#

we got a floating island after every echo, theres gonna be decoration ideas for that

muted cape
#

Yeah hoping in 2027 will be the push for more partnerships, and sponsors for cosmetics.

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And also by then we should have holiday events featuring new cosmetics. Similiar to how discord does in the cosmetic store

calm jay
#

Yeah I'm thinking hideouts are a good idea too

quartz moat
#

im not sure about that, given that the core gameplay loop is to spend as little time in town as possible

prisma folio
#

do we need more monetization though?

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the current amount is fine

zinc blaze
#

But that’s so far away

zinc blaze
lean berry
zinc blaze
#

The whole reason their doing a paid class is because current mtx is not working

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Game studio needs money to be a business

lean berry
#

EHG: "We're broke and we need money"
You: "Nah, you're fine"

zinc blaze
#

lizard_Rex 🍔

open prairie
#

More content = people would buy MTX. Theres no changes since release of the game and game is already dead cause there was nothing new and no new seasons etc. Game was great but lost all the potential. In 2025 diablo will make new expansion and probably poe 2 1.0

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But i keep my thumbs to make this game great again

lean berry
#

If I'm in my honeymoon phase of the game, or if I've been binging the game every day for 2 weeks straight and I still can't be convinced to buy any of the $10-$20 microtransactions because they all suck, that's not a content issue.

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And I am an extremely impulsive buyer. I've spent thousands of dollars on PoE1/2, it has very little to do with what content the game has so long as it has enough to keep me playing.

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Somehow, LE failed to capitalize on my impulsiveness.

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And that in itself is quite the accomplishment I gotta say.

#

Speaking of impulsiveness, I just now bought a couple of games for $50 and I probably won't even play them for like 2-3 years (like most of the games I buy). That's the kind of person I am and LE still couldn't convince me to buy any MTX.

balmy arrow
dense wolf
#

Question is how much will the new class cost?

jolly steppe
#

Be careful with such statements. Otherwise, they'll introduce paid mobs.

#

An idea for an in-game store consumable. A monster appears that drops a 2LP Altaria Ring with a 100% chance. 🤣

south moat
compact dawn
obtuse bay
swift ferry
#

Hi all, so in new season i must create another seasonal character in order to play the new content and the old one remain in legacy?

quartz moat
swift ferry
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I know. But can i play expansion,new skills and maps with legacy caracter?

quartz moat
#

yes

south moat
#

All the content is shared between legacy & seasons
You just miss out on fresh start, possible leader boards if you don't play season

swift ferry
#

Thanks a lot. So my seasonal primalist can be played on legacy,in new content next year. Don.t care about leaderboards

night marten
#

@fossil hemlock please stop posting pictures in #suggestions that is not what it is for

fiery spruce
#

they need to fix "seasons" schedule, having them once every what 5-6 months or whatever it is now is waay waay too long, people usually end their seasonal play in tops a month, except rare one and some streamers might hang out for a bit longer but barely any 2 months~. and next cycle is in what march I was told??

night marten
#

they also have been asking about like, mid season resets, or events

fiery spruce
#

yeee I hope they will do it I love LE much more than poe (poe begame way too grindy and complicated over the years especially if u dont play 24/7 on start ure just wasting time), but damn okay I have fun for a month then what wait 6 months xD

night marten
#

yeah, no one is super jazzed about 7 month wait. but, they wanted to make sure they tried to hit the player want of 'big enough'

fiery spruce
#

resets is questionable, I farmed and tried my best for weeks to the get all reset and do exact same content again? for me it would be bad for others mby idk

#

events, sounds interesting yes depends foc

fiery spruce
night marten
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LE can. its just about getting it right. they are growing, adding people, trying to figure out where the extra manpower is needed to make things faster. and making it so its actually helpful to them

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for better or worse, it will take some time to even that stuff out inhouse

fiery spruce
#

hope for it to get back up, went on twitch today saw 2 streams wit h4 viewers

night marten
#

its also a lot easier to coordinate 5 indie devs, than 100. the bigger you get, the harder it is to get everyone working in the same direction

fiery spruce
#

and recent news are questionable too. eeeeh Im scarred for it tbf

night marten
#

yeah, dont think anyone is excited about the news either. but its a 'time will tell' situation

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s4 and s5 will be big indicators

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which is why i think they are taking extra time on s4 as well

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they know it needs to be great

fiery spruce
#

yeee if its like one time dlc for few new classess or smth like that I dont actually midn that much but if its anything else..

#

wanted to play but its feels so dead atm. wasted last few weeks on poe2 (basically wasted as economy was going up faster than I progress), still want some arpg feel

night marten
#

yeah. LE is in its low between seasons. and poe/d4 have been out long enough they are heading to that same area

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i've also been in a gaming rut. nothing i play seems fun. lol

sly wasp
#

I appreciate that the devs want to add a big new content drop every season but there’s a reason other games don’t do that lol

#

It’s ok to do more frequent seasons with small adjustment patches between larger ones

night marten
#

while i agree, a vocal portion of the LE player base said they wanted a big season

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more like s2, than s3

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and while i liked s3's mechanic...a lot of the player base didnt

fiery spruce
night marten
#

they are trying to listen to their players as best as possible.

sly wasp
#

Player feedback is hard cause an obnoxious amount of the time players don’t actually understand what they like or dislike about a piece of content

night marten
#

also true!

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lol

#

whatever the devs decide to do...just gotta hope they are right and they can back it up

fiery spruce
#

need smth for the time being

night marten
#

there are some good games on heavy discount cuz of the end of year sale on steam. slay the spire is like $3

sly wasp
#

I’d personally prefer they charged for the expansion than new classes but yeah game is frankly underpriced and mtx cosmetics ain’t cutting it. This isn’t a game designed for you to play all day every day like Poe lol

fiery spruce
night marten
#

they actually commented on this decision. they didnt want to charge for the xpac and split the player base, and basically have two games. they thought the 'optional' class would be better

fiery spruce
sly wasp
#

Yeah I recently tried to play d2r again and quit at hell cause oops turns out any build that needs attack rating to work suddenly needs insane gear to function there

night marten
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and while i dont agree, i can understand their thought process

night marten
fiery spruce
night marten
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lol.

fiery spruce
#

hmm cant find naything arpg like (mby minecraft poe mod? :DDD), will have to think if I should play cyberpunk, enshrouded or dying light the beast for next few weeks

dense wolf
#

I'm guessing new classes will be similar to what Diablo 4 does: New class is S Tier. Like how Spiritborn was OP on release and now Paladin is super strong.

#

Makes sense if the devs are trying to get people to buy the new class.

main frigate
#

cool, pay to win, right?

dense wolf
#

There are no leaderboards in D4. Not really a PvP focus game. Not really pay to win

sly wasp
#

leaderboards aren't meaningfully pvp either

#

they're a cute little bonus you can do but they don't matter in the sense that like, broken classes in an mmo or op guys in a fighting game do

#

where they prevent you from playing the game as intended

#

like, if there's a worry about pay to win it's not in the leaderboards. it's in the merchant guild

chilly ember
#

LE leaderboards are pretty meaningless tbh

sly wasp
#

where op classes could potentially turbo farm and flood them

dense wolf
#

The D4 route of strong class doesn't fully apply to LE in the sense that one can simply play offline mode.

#

LE doesn't have a official leaderboard, correct?

sly wasp
#

i genuinely don't know lol. if it does i've never seen it. it would have to be hidden somewhere

dense wolf
#

I don't think there is one. Not like say PoE.

#

Except PoE is about racing to 100

dense wolf
# main frigate cool, pay to win, right?

What if the best way to get strongest is to trade with other players and then the game makes you pay in order to have best way to sell to ther players, is that pay to win?

#

See what I did there?

inner finch
#

Im guessing paradox classes might be the weakest of the bunch 🙂

zinc blaze
#

Not defending d4 but

  • spiritborn was op as hell because of bugged interactions to do like 500 times the damage of everyone else
  • from what I’ve seen with the Paladin, their a lot more balanced compared to the other classes
inner finch
#

SB didnt just have bugged interactions, it also had 0 cooldown on some mechanics that should have cooldowns

zinc blaze
#

Yea

inner finch
#

half of Paladin's brokenness is a single overtuned legendary node (Castle) on the Paragon tree

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fixing that would reduce 50% of its distance to the rest

zinc blaze
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That’s my point, one op thing which can be balanced away is pretty damn good for a new class

balmy arrow
inner finch
zinc blaze
inner finch
#

I dont wanna throw shade on EHG, but when it comes to introducing new mechanics, this is an absolute toss up

zinc blaze
#

Correct

inner finch
#

It could be anything, from completely useless to entirely broken

zinc blaze
#

And there’s always more players than testers

inner finch
#

EHG also has a chaotic element in their designs

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Things are far less predictable

#

This is me being nice regarding the subject of thorough testing

elfin wadi
#

whats with all the negative reviiews?

#

tom just checked steam and jeezz krafton and payment stuff

south moat
#

Well, they have to make money somehow to keep things going

elfin wadi
inner finch
#

Can't wait for LE to be dead for the 5th time

chilly ember
scenic fog
#

I think a pvp arena would be fun

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if its done right mind you

south moat
#

It could be fun, sure

obtuse bay
zinc blaze
chilly ember
south moat
#

Well luckily you can't have all that on the same character

#

And I'm sure they'd balance some of the things in pvp
or else falconeer would just kill you instantly

chilly ember
#

it would take substantial reworking of a pretty significant chunk of skills and items to even just weed out the most obvious hard cc abuse cases before you even got to get into balancing

south moat
#

And at the rate they fix bugs and other issues
yeah

prisma folio
#

PvP is not a good idea here

inner finch
#

With how modern ARPGs are built, getting PvP to work basically means reprogramming an entire separate combat system

prisma folio
#

The only way I can see pvp working is kind of like Warframe's faceoff mode (pvpve)

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Players wouldn't directly fight each other

muted cape
#

I think pvp gonna be added at some point lol

#

They keep teasing the idea in the past

low cradle
vocal sonnet
prisma folio
#

poe2 is like poe1 but with the fun removed

zinc blaze
#

at least the new poe2 season has a solid mace build in it

steel jungle
#

hello, u have a date of LE for s4 ?

scenic fog
steel jungle
#

because, i see in january is steam, but the information doesn't stay more one day

inner finch
#

with a roadmap, a trailer, everything

sour agate
#

any other new players want to join me in co-op campaign?

prisma folio
brittle rampart
#

took break, when is new season/season end?

quartz moat
#

march apparently

brittle rampart
#

nice. whats this i see about paid classes ppl be talkn bout

south moat
#

There's gonna be free dlc (for people that already own the game) but at same time they put out a class you need to pay for
No information about the class so far or how much it'll be
but the mtx isn't selling and they do need to make money to keep on developing the game

brittle rampart
#

ah true, no money, game goes brr into the abyss =/

obtuse bay
brisk ingot
#

hey is there a way to reset account like wipe whole progression (stash/crafting mat) and fresh start ?

south moat
high kettle
#

or solo character found

balmy arrow
round lake
#

there's any list of uniques that have 3D model? i don't want to feel i play cheap 2011 game.. and look like shhh.

severe socket
#

Offtopic has been overridden by poe...

#

Now I feel even more out of place in there.

lean berry
night marten
#

that happens pretty much every poe league

south moat
#

<@&1161418687471956101> that same person posted the gif in #suggestions again

#

the same thing as last time

#

That was fast heavybreathing

zinc blaze
#

Eagles has the eyes of a hawk

#

Wait

strange umbra
south moat
#

Ah, hey Muffin
Hope you're having a good vacation

zinc blaze
#

Yo muffin spotted

#

Muffin bomb mtx for acid flask when(throw muffin -> muffin explodes)

strange umbra
zinc blaze
strange umbra
#

some day ill manage to sneak in a Muffin reference somewhere 😛

zinc blaze
south moat
#

0.1% chance to summon a flying muffin instead of crow

inner finch
zinc blaze
#

Lil hats for our minions/companions/birds when

calm jay
severe socket
#

I dunno, maybe it is for some people, but I feel awkward in there. 😅

#

Hiya Muffin, btw.

south moat
severe socket
#

I tried (by mentioning the ongoing baking efforts), but it got drowned VERY fast. 🙂

south moat
#

I did reply to that

lean berry
severe socket
#

Yeah, I can see that.

#

Offtopic be like: oh, someone said something. Oh, it's not poe-related. Nevermind. Stay on course. 😄

#

/jk

lean berry
#

But I never belittle anyone for saying something even if I'm not interested in it, in fact I don't think I've seen anyone act that way.

severe socket
#

I wasn't belittled in any way (at least not that I know of) 😄 Like I said, I just feel awkward in there, given the ever-ongoing poe discussions 🙂

#

Nevermind me 😄

south moat
#

I did once ask one if she's paid to post about the chinese gacha games she kept on posting about

lean berry
#

As much as I dislike gacha, I just refrain now. But yeah I'm generally negative towards it but I don't wanna sour someone else's mood over it.

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If someone likes it and they wanna share it with others, sounds good to me. Nobody owns that channel anyway (well, Discord/EHG does), if I'm interested I'll respond. Otherwise, I don't.

severe socket
#

I dislike gacha as a monetization layer as well, but there are actually decent game-first examples out there, imo.

#

Dismissing legit efforts to actually create an otherwise marvelous game just because of its monetization model (especially if said model can be just ignored for the most part) is kinda unfair in a sense. But that's just me.

lean berry
#

Well, this is definitely veering more into off topic territory and we could talk about there, but my dislike is the psychologically predatory nature of gacha and I might tolerate it when it's only used for cosmetics, non-P2W stuff, but even then it's just barely tolerable. Like in my mind you have to be a really bad person to even employ this business model in the first place.

south moat
#

Yeah, Discord owns it

severe socket
#

Definitely not for weak minds. 🙂

#

Ok, moving on.

proper solstice
#

hi guys, someone wanna boost me a bit havent played for 1 year :c

south moat
#

The game is easy enough to lvl in

restive mesa
#

can anyone help me with uber abby?

scenic fog
#

props to you sticking with a character long enough to make it to 300 corruption

tawny sigil
#

Is there something going on with the servers? I've been trying to log in for the past 20 minutes, and it gets me to the End of Time loading screen, and then just sits there until my connection is lost.

woven sentinel
#

wow wow wow jsut wow anyone missed me? lol jk u didnt

obtuse bay
#

welcome back

fathom carbon
#

👋

balmy arrow
south moat
distant brook
#

took a long break, can you guys recommend some easy fun build for mapping?

sly wasp
#

Storm crow beastmaster

cosmic sonnet
#

I personally loved "Judgement Paladin Guide" from maxroll

round lake
#

my friend finished entire campain without wearing any item. He just uses healing hands and healed enemies from life.

night marten
#

this doesnt surprise me at all

#

tho i bet it was pretty long

round lake
#

actually he didn't struggle for a even moment. Not as smooth as most, most builds ofc. But there was no point when it was tedious

night marten
#

do you know his time thru?

round lake
#

i can ask but he is sleeping now

night marten
#

eh, aint no biggie

#

just curious

plush helm
#

can you imprint experimental affix ?

south moat
#

Just like you don't get boss only drops from throwing those in there

plush helm
#

? sso you will not get the affix but a look like item ?

#

like following imprint rule with the affix exeption

south moat
#

You'll probably get something that has the other affixes similar to the item in your imprint slot

plush helm
#

okok

balmy arrow
quasi pike
#

PSA for my fellow WW clowns 🤡

TIL you can use Runes of Weaving to instantly upgrade Weaver's Will items. You don't have to wear them. Just craft it. Done.

I'm the guy who bought max stash tabs and still has a hoarding problem. I have an entire WW inventory system - tabs labeled by slot type (1h1, 2h1, 2h2, 2h3, 2h4, a1, arm1...), the whole cheatsheet setup to find items. Peak organization.

Still never put two and two together.

The number of WW20+ 2-handers I threw on the ground this season because "who has time to swap weapons and grind XP for them"... I could cry.

Meanwhile I've been using Runes of Weaving exclusively to evolve idols like some kind of animal.

Skipped last season. Brain never connected the dots. Don't be me.

inner finch
#

Reading the patch notes will bring world peace, one day

#

Alternatively, reading Rune of Weaving's description Gregory

south moat
#

Reading is hard though

slender heart
#

so sad what happened to last epoch, legit saddest thing in arpg history for me. it was my 2nd fav arpg of all time after poe1

prisma folio
zinc blaze
balmy arrow
#

Lizards don't read

fading drift
copper sorrel
severe socket
#

The tooltip just doesn't show up.

midnight cedar
#

Yo what is all the comotion here

#

Can i play the game or what happend to it

#

I see negative reveiwss

#

In steam

inner finch
#

It is playable

midnight cedar
#

Playble or enjoyable?

south moat
#

Why not both?

devout siren
#

The game with 3 LP farming is completely destructive. You farm a legend for a month and end up getting what you don't want. With higher corruption this can happen more often. The player loses motivation and when the transfer fails on the 3rd attempt

brittle hollow
#

If you can’t get what you want in a 3LP slam it sounds like you don’t know how to slam.

There is no way that out of your 4 transferable affixes you don’t get the affix you NEED to have.

#

Especially given that t2 julra up you have a guaranteed affix given

south moat
#

Honestly
I'm glad that people stopped complaining about missing their single slams... but kinda hate it that they started complaining about missing 3LP slams

devout siren
#

When you have over 2500 corruptions, it would be necessary to have at least three LPs in 3 things

brittle hollow
#

Ok… and you mean to tell me that the affix you are missing on the slam.. the 1 affix out of the 4 affixes you have on your exalt.. is the one that you need?

#

If it’s the one that you need then use that on Julra

#

You have 4 affixes.. you are guaranteed 3 on a 3LP slam..

#

If you need all 4 affixes then you are looking for a 4LP item instead which is a different problem.

median perch
#

Don't we have any events for new year's?

brittle hollow
#

On a 3 LP slam just pick the one that’s most important as the guaranteed

devout siren
#

That's eight pairs of shoes and not one of them meets 75% s3 lp

hexed pond
#

is there somewhere where i can see some build that are most played?

obtuse bay
#

lizard gang

south moat
quartz moat
#

i dont think that shows most played, thats just the guides they found on youtube, etc

south moat
#

Yes, you're right
but you could get an estimate about what's the most popular currently

leaden adder
#

In game ladder can give you a rough idea as well

cobalt fable
#

when new cycle of this bomb?

leaden adder
#

March 26 i think.

high kettle
#

you can see the most played classes and skills on the right

#

but ofc some of the skills are good supportive skills that a lot of builds in the same class use

balmy arrow
zinc blaze
median perch
#

🦎

main frigate
#

fireworks are overwhelming

median perch
#

Where I live, there’s no organized fireworks display today, but many large cities nearby do have them

main frigate
#

No fireworks and firecrackers are playing at anytime near where I live is one of points for my dream life...

Awful tradition from a poor village.

zinc blaze
#

Man I love fireworks

#

They go kaboom and kerblam

#

💥

main frigate
#

Do you still like that after you must listen them to play near your room 4h per day, last for 2 weeks?

#

🤔

#

To be honest, it's why I never want to spend Chinese New Year

zinc blaze
#

Yes

median perch
#

fireworks haven't been allowed to be set off for over ten years now, only licensed professional fireworks displays are permitted

main frigate
#

we should exchange the place we live then omegalul

zinc blaze
#

You wouldn’t like it here cause people do fireworks for everything

main frigate
#

Christmas is quite good. Exchange gifts, big dinner, beautiful Christmas tree, and no fireworks :)

zinc blaze
#

that but with fireworks

median perch
#

making excessive noise that disturbs others such as singing karaoke or playing high-powered speakers too loudly can result in a fine 😂

#

In the past, I could negotiate with my neighbors when my family had a party, but nowadays that's no longer possible

main frigate
#

I hope China can learn that

calm jay
#

Sometimes fireworks go off here, but usually the weather is too whack to do anything like that. It rained last year, so, heh

zinc blaze
forest night
#

if you're slamming 3lp it's because you need multiple affixes and yes it feels bad to continually fail at them considering the amount of time it can take to farm not just the 3lp item but the affixes on the item to slam

#

But even 2LP can be difficult on some items and feels frustrating to repeatedly fail

zinc blaze
#

That’s the gamba

#

Now picture before the guaranteed slam

forest night
#

I understand how it works, I'm just agreeing with the person from earlier who said it's a frustrating system

devout siren
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I'll give it one more try, if it doesn't work, I'll switch to the old game, it doesn't make sense to me, it's worse than the "lotto", getting 3 LP is very difficult and then transferring the correct stats - playing solo and with corruption over 2500 it should be a gaming experience and not frustration, the game creators should consider this

balmy arrow
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On behalf of the lizards, I congratulate everyone on the New Year

main frigate
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Think what should I do in new year yet

south moat
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I guess they should just let you pick all the affixes you want whenever

forest night
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Yes there's clearly no middle ground or way to improve the system

south moat
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Look mate
they already gave the guaranteed slam
people moved from complaining missing the 1lp slam to complaining about 3LP slam

forest night
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Look mate
We are allowed to have opinions about the systems in the game

south moat
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ofc you are

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And I'm allowed to think it's silly

forest night
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"It used to be worse" isn't a reason to dismiss someone's opinion

south moat
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Like sure, they could make so if you fail enough times in row you'll get higher odds or something

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But then people would start complaining about that too how it takes too long
or how it's too strong

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how do you even define the "fail" condition from the games part in that case
if it asks the player they could just say that "yeah it failed" every time until they hit the guaranteed result to come

forest night
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The problem is the idea that all that's ever needed to progress is 1 affix added onto a unique. If that's the case, the system should just be fixed 1 LP. Especially given the difficulty jump between corruption pushing and uber, there are plenty of builds where you pretty much have to plan on being able to get more than 1 affix to make it work. That's what makes it a "failed slam"

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Someone in game got a super rare 3 LP item, I forgot if it was Vise or something else, but it was like 1 in 16k for 3 LP. They weren't even that excited because of the way the system works, the odds for being able to get 3 stats transferred that they wanted were incredibly low

south moat
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Frankly, pushing high corruption imo is not really intended
Sure, it's there
but it's not like you're meant to go to 5k or some shit like that

forest night
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The system could be improved in a few ways:

  • If you want it to remain random the affixes that transfer over, have higher tier Julra give a weight to the affixes to the higher tier ones have a better chance of transferring, so you can at least craft accordingly

  • Change the crafting so that you can farm a particularly rare item to add into the craft that lets you pick an additional affix

south moat
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The game isn't balanced around it
And shouldn't be balanced around the very high end grind pushers

forest night
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I'm not talking about doing things like pushing 5k corruption

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But if the entire game is balanced around just needing 1 affix added onto a unique then it should be left at that. Right now it's multiple layers of RNG that in the end, don't leave a player often satisfied when something super rare like a multi-LP unique drops

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It may from a spreadsheet perspective be balanced but it certainly doesn't feel like a good experience to some players

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I have RNG on the unique rolls on the item, RNG on the LP, RNG on the affixes of the item to slam, RNG on the rolls in those affixes, RNG on the transfer of affixes

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And that's not counting the RNG that comes into play when you need to do crafting

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I know it was worse when you couldn't pick even a single affix because I played then. But I'm agreeing in the end that where it is now, it gets way frustrating and some people (myself included) don't feel excited when that super rare item we're farming for drops, because it just becomes another lever pull on a slot machine

tardy bison
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i think it should have a chance to delete both items. woops lost in time sorry.

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can't wait for people complaining about the new vaal orb mechanic lol

forest night
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I thought it was terrible in POE and think it's a bad idea in this game too

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So I don't plan on corrupting my items unless it's easily replacable

south moat
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As you never should

brittle hollow
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I still don’t understand the problem. Like I really don’t.

Because you have 3 LP item. You can slam an exalt item with 4 affixes.
Are you legitimately complaining that you want specific 3 affixes for your build on that slam?

I’ll go ahead and assume that this is what you are telling me.

I’ll go ahead and assume that your exalt has 4 affixes and you also have the 3 affixes that you want on the exalt. The 4th is probably a mid affix.

The 3LP slam on a T2 Julra and up will guarantee you 2/3 affixes you want.

You may get the mid affix from your exalt as the 3rd affix on the slam. That’s the RNG. Are you honestly telling me that your item is ruined because you got the mid affix?

Either you are chasing a dream, or your build is geared relatively wrong or your exalted item is wrong. Because 2/3 affixes is a very good outcome.

Help me understand, give an actual example

forest night
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Let's start first off with the attempt to slam 3 affixes. Most likely this involves an item with T7 T7 T5 or T7 T6 T4-5, and the 4th affix is "whatever". A failed slam is not "just" not getting that 4th whatever affix, it's not even getting the 2 higher ones. When you slam, you wind up wth these outcomes:
T7, T7, T5 - ideal
T7, T7, 4th affix - not ideal but probably still usable but not necessarly an upgrade depending on where you are
T7, T5, 4th affix - failed

If you're slamming T3, you've also likely invested effort into strifing that item to get the unique rolls up, and farming that item to slam. Good chance for a lot of items trashed through havocs trying to get there.

And unfortunately yes, for a lot of builds outside the meta, unless you're just satisfied doing sub-1k corr and skipping uber, you have to chase things like this

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But even without the slam 3 affixes, 2 affix slams fail often enough that feels frustrating too. I was chasing a relic for almost a month trying to get just 2 stats slammed onto it.

brittle hollow
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Then your major problem is your exalt, not the slam.

forest night
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Specific example:

I need bleed chance + duration for minions for my build. My choices are to either go with a doublet, or slam T7 + T7 onto another unique. Whichever way I go with, I have to make up the stats elsewhere (that's the nature of builds, you sacrifice some things, I get that). But because there isn't enough of a diversity of some items and skills, you're stuck on needing very specific combos to make certain buildswork

south moat
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Not all builds need to be uber viable either

brittle hollow
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And if your build is tuned to require these slams.. at those tiers. Then you are chasing the perfect item which to me it’s not a failed slam

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It’s endless grind which is what it should be

forest night
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How is the exalt the major problem? If I need str + attunement, I can farm 2x t7 for slam. That's the best I can do, I have to hope RNG picks them both

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Then effectively there are only a handful of builds that can truly push most of the endgame stuff

brittle hollow
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Farm triple T7 instead.

forest night
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They specifically designed the endgame to revolve around legendary crafting

brittle hollow
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I don’t know what you define as endgame

forest night
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I'm saying it can be better

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What do you define as endgame

brittle hollow
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Me? For me, endgame is reaching 300-500 corruption and attempting to kill Aberroth.

Realistically I would say 800-1000cc, killing Aberroth and attempting Uberroth

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I do not think either of these require double T7 and a T5 slam

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For a lot of builds

simple bison
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There's no content that requires more than 1 T7 and 3 T5 affixes if even

forest night
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I mean if you just want to play reflect shaman or bear BM or WP VK then sure

brittle hollow
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These are not the only builds that can reach these corruptions.

simple bison
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Even if they make harder content the power difference between 7555 and 7755 or even 7765 isn't big enough for that to be the barrier that stops pretty much any build

brittle hollow
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These are they EASIEST builds to reach that corruption

forest night
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yes it can be a barrier

brittle hollow
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If the difference between a t7 and a t5 is what defines your build then I don’t think your build is correct.

simple bison
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If you can kill Uber Abby with 7755 you can kill him at 7555 and honestly odds are 5555

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Obviously you'd need a little more skill but in majority of cases not much more

forest night
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I didn't say it "defines" the build, I'm saying the difference over several items can be enough to define whether a build overall is viable in that high corruption/uber

brittle hollow
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I understand the frustration. I understand your suggestion. I just don’t think this is a big problem with the game. I was actually amazed they even put the guarantee slam…

main frigate
south moat
devout siren
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Yes, I wanted to try 5000 corruption, but the way I see it, I probably won't get there. So basically, if I want to farm, there's no point in reaching my goal and then waiting for another 4-5 upgrade, I'm not going to discuss it further, just let the AI ​​figure out what the chances are for 3 lp with good stats are and I'll think about starting to play the lotto instead 🙂

forest night
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I mean if you want to get down to it, the bigger issue is they need:

  • Wider variety of uniques
  • Fix the skill synergy and give more options there
  • Finish some of the half-baked ideas that are obvious in some of the items that came early into the game (elemental -> void spell conversions for example)
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But I didn't think that was something that needed to be rehashed, I wanted to go more into the specific crafting mechanisms because someone else echoed the same frustration I feel and I see others in game expressing

brittle hollow
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Ok that’s a completely different thing and I 100% agree with you on that. The crafting mechanic is excellent imo

forest night
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I think LE's entire crafting system has a bunch of very good seeds of things that never got finished or built upon

chilly ember
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the statement that there is nothing that requires more than 1t7 gear is true of, at the very least, 14 out of the game’s 15 masteries

sly wasp
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Yeah every mastery can very reasonably SSF Uber with at least one build, and most can do multiple

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Stuff really only falls apart if you’re trying to push corruption way higher

forest night
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I didn't say a particular mastery required that, I was saying certain builds do

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I can go respec to bear BM and braindead kill uber if I really want to have a uber kill in that mastery

sly wasp
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Beastmaster is one of the specs with the most viable builds tho???

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Companions are stupid strong

brittle hollow
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Right and that’s expected for things to fall apart at much higher corruptions.

But having a 100% deterministic crafting system is not the right way to go about it. It’s already deterministic enough

forest night
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I'm not advocating for 100% deterministic

sly wasp
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I do think forging potential consumption should be a little less random

forest night
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And yes there will always be complaints from somewhere for anything that isn't "guaranteed" but that's not what my argument is coming from

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Well aware you can't please 100% of people when it comes to gamedev 🙂

sly wasp
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Like I strongly think that the game leans a little too much towards full builds of crafted legendaries cause smithing potential just isn’t there to make turn a good exalted into an excellent one without gambling hard, idk

chilly ember
forest night
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And I'm saying there are too many builds that are teased throughout skills and items that can't be minmaxed to the level needed to do that without needing multple T7 slams

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Not saying you should be able to just randomly pick passives and skills and throw together any combo of items to beat content, but each mastery basically feels like "Here's 20 different ways you can build,but only 4-5 of them can really do higher level stuff"

sly wasp
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The local superboss isn’t really a good baseline for establishing build viability tho

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Like, normal Abby sure. Every reasonably constructed build should be able to do normal Abby without spending a bunch of time gearing

forest night
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The way around that of course is the legendary crafting and while 4 LP 7/7/7/7 on every slot isn't realistic, it's not great to set expectations at "you shouldn't think about anything more than 1 T7 really"

chilly ember
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furthermore, having 60-75 builds (based on your figures) that can do the absolute pinnacle of the game’s difficulty is a pretty good benchmark for build viability

sly wasp
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Sorry, is the complaint here that t7 exalteds for lp1 crafting too hard to get ??

forest night
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In the end what it comes down to is: Do you feel excited when that super rare item drops, like a LP2 red ring, or a LP3 Vise, or does it feel like "this isn't gonna get any better than slamming a lower LP"

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No

forest night
sly wasp
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That’s nonsense. Playing through the game with a gimmicky build is worthwhile even if you can’t do the game’s superboss

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That’s what I mean by using uber to judge build viability being a bad baseline

forest night
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And what I'm saying is the crafting system can be improved so that it doesn't "feel" so frustrating without making it 100% deterministic and more of these builds are fun

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Otherwise just remove multiple LP, give 1 slot on each unique for a stat to slam, and leave it at that

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And then balance around that

chilly ember
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that makes the problem worse by obliterating the viability of most low LPL uniques

plain inlet
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Happy New Year, wish i had good news. but this game is unfortunately dead to me now. since the New Owners ruined the game. so i just wanna wish, the community all the best.
Peach Out.

calm jay
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I love the idea of gimmicky builds or even making something that's gonna struggle even just with the campaign but like. That's the fun of video games. Not only is there potential for problems with multiple solutions, but it's an environment with generally no real losses incurred except some of your time.

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Fun dumb stuff is and should be totally fine as long as it's not the only flavour of item out there.

sly wasp
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I mean I’m also of the opinion that if you buy gear via the merchant guild you’re not really playing the game but I know some people like that too lol

brittle hollow
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Person said… peach out..

forest night
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I mean I play pretty much exclusively gimmicky builds. I can eventually accept that they won't be uber viable, but what makes it not fun is that for many of them, the legendary crafting system could make them way better but ti's behind so many layers of RNG that it just becomes frustrating.

Well that and for many gimmicky builds they never finished the itemization or skill synergy so they can't even really do more than basic empowered monos but that's another discussion and doesn't really have much to do with crafting

chilly ember
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limiting every unique to 1lp kills the viability of uniques, it does not enable them.

forest night
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I did not say that's what they should do, I said might as well if the mindset is "don't expect anything more than 1 good affix on an item:"

brittle hollow
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But a t4 and a t5 is a good affix in the item. You don’t need multiple t7s. You may need the affix but not the huge roll

forest night
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I think there's many things that could be done to flesh out and build on crafting that find a better middle ground between what we have now and fully guaranteed T7

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That's actually what I was about to suggest, I'd even be good with a system where I could easily get T5s of the affix I need on multi-LP items

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Like if I could farm a 3LP body armor, farm/craft a body with 3 affixes I need that are T7 (or even 6), T5, and T5, and throw that together with a lower failure rate than what we have now, that would be great

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And then gambling to try and get multi-t7s on the same item is under the current system, that'd be fine

sly wasp
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Maybe adding a way to clear the legendary affixes out of an item and try again with a new exalted

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Revert a legendary back to an LP whatever item

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Cause that’s the big feel bad I thing: losing a LP 3 or whatever to the worst possible roll lol

forest night
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You're right and I should have phrased that better earlier. It's not specifically that I need T7/T7/T7 of 3 affixes, it's that I need those 3 affixes specifically

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"Failing" a slam like described earlier with multi-T7 would still suck but then there's an alternative of "you can get all 3 affixes you want, just at lower tier, and not waste that super-rare LP3 item"

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Like that guy who's been trying to slam a LP2 RR and dumped hundreds of millions of gold. If it was me and I had a way to say get a T7/5 or even T5/T5 of my choice, I'd probably do the latter

sly wasp
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That might also be cool. One exalted affix or two normal affixes guaranteed

forest night
maiden sky
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As a late game farmer I would say of course there are some things that could be ironed out but it should be a bit difficult to gear out late game.

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On thing I think you are skipping over is the bridge be all T7 and all double T7. That is a decent grind but not that hard.

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Anything above that going for 3lp+ is much harder to put everything together. This is only going to matter for .01% of the player base and prolly should continue to act as the “chase” content.

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One’

forest night
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I'm not, I focused on the 3 because that was what the original person that started the convo was talking about, but even 2 LP slams can be frustrating

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And I think there can be things done that provide either levels of success inbetween, or tone down some of the RNG without making it guaranteed

maiden sky
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Sure but it’s the same chance for getting what you want with 2 and 3 LP but of course it’s harder to craft.

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I understand and the argument against that is the power creep has been slower. They have made it better every league but not exactly as easy as you say.

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There are a lot of extra methods people miss to make it much much easier in the late game. Especially party play.

forest night
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For me personally, instead of spending almost 2 months trying to go from 1x T7 to 2x T7 on relic, an intermediate step where T4 Julra could let you pick 1x of any tier and 1x of up to T5 would be wonderful

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(That's just an example)

maiden sky
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Yes but those systems exist. You are missing party play bc that relic could have taken you 5-8 hrs max.

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So until most people are using every system in play they will prolly keep it the same. Once you have that relic and all you need is a good craft from imprint you will just need play time.

forest night
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I'm saying I have that T7/T7 imprinted, I have the base unique imprinted, and bad luck just continually fails the slams. It's a system that can be smoothed out

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There's plenty of seeds of great things in the crafting system

chilly ember
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what is the unique you’re looking to slam in this example?

maiden sky
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Yes and the counter play to that is to have so many of them that the crafting becomes trivial.

forest night
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Why are you assuming I am trying to make the crafting "trivial" ?

maiden sky
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I completely agree with you things can always be made smoother but I certainly recommend getting everything out of the system first.

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That’s not what I am saying.

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I am saying that with a good setup bw weaver tree and troves you will drop so many copies of that relic that getting the craft you want becomes trivial.

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It’s how we use the system that matters so much currently. If you just look at it on paper you miss a lot. Especially party play.

forest night
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I mean I dunno what else I can say. I understand you all think I'm probably just doing all this "wrong" and I don't understand how it works because a lot of people that complain just want best-in-slots raining from the sky like D3. But I think the current endgame crafting system feels frustrating even if it looks balanced on paper, and there's plenty of stuff that can be done to smooth things out

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I have to stack Str + attunement in my build. I've done about 30 slams in the last monthish on a LP2 item, and all of them hit the 66% failure chance. Whether that's condensed down or not, it doesn't feel good as a gamer

maiden sky
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I don’t disagree with the fact that things can be made better. It’s also perfectly fine to have an opinion that’s negative.
It’s rng it can feel bad no doubt! Issue was with some of your problems they can be fixed with systems that are in place. You were asking for a few things that are already available making it seem like you didn’t know at the very least.

forest night
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I mean I'm happy to be introduced to something I didn't know existed. But I've imprinted the T7+T7 with no prefix, juiced my weaver tree to maximize drops in cemetaries/tombs and champs, spam the troves + rampant coasts and buy amber. I certainly have days where it feels like nothing drops but overall, I have a path to farm the base item + the slam item. But there's no control beyond picking 1 affix on that slam, and no alternative to get a medium upgrade like T7+T5.

maiden sky
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So run troves with multiple people to sustain Amber (3 plus does it if careful with personal spending).

forest night
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If the path for grinding was something like:

  • Farm LP1, Farm 1x T7, slam guaranteed
  • farm LP2, Farm 1x T7 and 1x T5, slam guaranteed or heavily weighted
  • farm Lp2, Farm 2x T7, slam gambling
maiden sky
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Next because you are running with others you collect resonance and then you can get gifts from them.

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Those can be the 777+ you need and/or the unique or even the slammed unique.

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It’s all about being so efficient that the rng barely matters.

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When we farm we farm so fast that you end up with so many items that you overcome the odds. Sounds lame but it really is the truth. Imprints are busted which inherently makes gifting busted.

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I have to go afk for a few minutes but you are welcome to message me and I will give you more detail. You are also welcome to find me in game.

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I am the same name everywhere. 😊

forest night
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I get it, but I don't think that can be the solution. I've seen you guys talking about farming in game and stuff which is cool, I know you guys speedrun and get a ton of items. Playing with people certainly should be encouraged and if someone chooses not to they have to understand it might make some things more challenging. But a couple people can't support the whole playerbase, the fundamental systems themselves need some improvement.

quick snow
forest night
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I was

quick snow
forest night
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k

fiery spruce
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HP NY!!!

zinc blaze
obtuse magnet
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I hope it wont take long until we get a closure on the game, really wanna know the end

maiden sky
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@forest night Again I do agree that these things could always be improved and made smoother. I think it is deeper than that.

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Its not just about supply for all the items its that everyone has a small chance for these items to drop so multiple people no matter who make it better.

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I would point out though that by your own words solo it is slow but possible to achieve 1-2lp slams even with the rng. Then it is needed to min/max for 3lp +.

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In some ways this leads me to think of negative rng biased situation where we remember the bad cases and not the good ones. For the current content it seems decent to me and looks promising if they continue in the same direction and improving.

quick snow
# forest night k

in retrospect a T5 Julra with ~1000 corruption difficulty would be a good trade off for double option slam

forest night
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Glad you approve

candid atlas
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the clock has ticked past the midnight around here and i will just drop by to wish you all a happy new year! Hope you have plenty of loot lizards filled with triple T7 in 2026

radiant monolith
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happy new year everyone!

muted cape
main frigate
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👀 I'm waiting Americans and Latin-American to take the 2026's train

zinc blaze
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the fireworks are prepped

main frigate
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Run!

balmy tundra
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Happy New Year to all of you

fading moon
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Feliz año nuevo gente hermosa que tenga hermoso año 💐 y que dios siempre esté con ustedes ❤️

strange umbra
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Happy New Year, Travelers!

(From Muffins area anyway lol)

quartz moat
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happy munch munch

balmy arrow
vagrant citrus
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Just saw the Steam review bomb. Pretty childish way to kamikaze a game that was doing pretty well…