💬┃general

[scarlet garden]

BG3 anyone?

[calm jay]

Breaking to make food then I'm back to smiting the unrighteous on mah paladin o:

[tardy burrow]

what is the best way to farm Foot of the Mountain?

do i need to run through whole dungeon or just farm the boss

[mossy junco]

Anyone care to tp me to act 9 for COF faction. So I can skip 7-9 grind. Key drops have not been kind to me 🙁

[main frigate]

This is a bold guessing.

What happens if a le's player are rich enough to buy EHG

(I know it's unreal)

[fleet moth]

can you guys please add a story skip or monolith levelling option?

[worldly moth]

i lost all my good gear at farsite turtle...dumb game crashed lost connection on me!!!!!!!

[fleet moth]

maybe arena like grim dawn? or bounties like d3?

[worldly moth]

hours of gear grinding down the drain

FIX THIS GAME!!!

[severe socket]

Long-term? Said player should be rich enough to keep providing funds for EHG's salaries.

Because it's a part of the package. 🙂

[chilly ember]

just do farsight turtle again, the items will still be there

[worldly moth]

I tried and lost connection again

my internet works fine

i lost 20 2tp rings

[chilly ember]

the items will stay there until you take them out.

[worldly moth]

i'll see later

thanks for the heads up

Thank you farsight turtle for 0 lp's on all my rings

[severe socket]

Can't see that far after all.

[main frigate]

Rich enough... yes 20% players provide 80% funds

[main frigate]

Because it's a Halloween themed cat bowl?

It matches with him indeed

A black cat and a white cat... Interesting 🤔

But the difference is his black cat like a cat bowl but my white cat don't

Wick's cat is the most impressive one yet because it's too fluffy, groom hair must an satisfying work

Always chat the game is boring... I like chatting cats and food

[severe socket]

I guess LE is going to need a LOT of luck finding whales...
Because as things stand right now there isn't much to be enticed by.

[marble obsidian]

They need to fix their mtx. They look bad right now like terrible in fact. Honestly I think this game should have been a singleplayer game with expansions +co-op like what grin dawn does.

[severe socket]

That, plus most whales are already taken by various gacha games.

[severe socket]

This.

Also, it's TERRIBLE for a game of this caliber to not have a local p2p multiplayer capability.

I want to couch-coop with my kid when he grows up enough, but I can't without us both suffering latency issues.

[marble obsidian]

Live service is no joke. In 5 years they could have made 2 games at a minimum you know? And easily profited that way

[severe socket]

Exactly.

Why did they pivot to live-service in the end is beyond me. It's a money vacuum machine waiting to explode in their faces, really.

Working double-time on two codebases at once too before 0.9 happened, that was taking one f--- of a toll.

Also, the more people on the team, the thinner the funds are stretched, and the more communication issues pile up.

Language barriers, timezones, etc.

Crate did one marvel of a job on GD.

← 3.7k hours under my belt so far.

And it's perfectly couch-coopable too.

[marble obsidian]

I don't think they are hiring the right people too. GGG made the game in a garrage, in 5 years the game was solid. Well you can argue that there was no competition at the time but still the game was very good for the time. Didn't have half the jank this game has

[severe socket]

Too bad the game didn't stick with me in the end. 234.3 hours, and I'm burned out so hard it left a crater in me.

PoE1, I mean.

Tried it out back during Bestiary.

This game is a MENACE for me as a raging altoholic.

Building one character in there is already a major PITA, anywhere beyond that is just asking for trouble.

Especially when making a mistake of building a scion of all things.

[marble obsidian]

It's the opposite for me, i have been playing the game since ea days I have around 200 hours now but the game has too much jank for me to continue. Was hoping I'll return in a few seasons but that never happened, same bugs, same weightless combat, sound design needs work too, terrible optimisation

[severe socket]

To be honest, I'm kinda slowing down on LE as of late.

While I've already hit the 30-online-characters limit twice over my total playtime (1362.6 hours), this "season" (I can't help but want to keep calling it "cycle" for some reason) I've limited myself to just one character.

[plucky shard]

dude

[severe socket]

?

[plucky shard]

give me those drugs

[severe socket]

I'm a raging altoholic. It comes with the territory, I guess, liking the game's supposed build variability to this extent.

[plucky shard]

i love you from the far side of the northern and civilized world

[severe socket]

But the direction LE is heading has been definitely turning me off as of late.

I did get quite a number of items which would try enticing me to return to my marksman days, but sadly marksman hasn't been quite cutting it for a LOOOOONG time.

I think it's the only mastery which is literally made a clown of itself. Systematically too. Ravager's Dart? Early-right-half mastery-exclusive skill, gone for good. Jelkhor's Blast Knife? Mastery-defining skill, gone for good. With literally nothing across the whole kit to replace them. Had these skills been accessible by other masteries, there would be far fewer issues with the whole deal. But... yeah.

The only mastery which is supposed to use a bow exclusively, and needs f---tiple times the effort to function in the endgame compared to other masteries, especially Rogue's own Falconer.

And let's not talk about how atrociously terrible Dancing Strikes in itself is.

Credit where credit's due: the idea behind the skill is interesting. But the execution... well.

Still beats me why wouldn't they make it a proper channeled skill and give Rogue proper channeled skill support across the class.

They already have Disintegrate as an example.

[simple bison]

Disintegrate still sucks tbf

Even after a tree update

Channeled skills in general are just harder to scale currently, especially itemization wise

Things like warpath are good since they have additional scaling (warpath hit frequency scales with attack speed, but something like disintegrate tick frequency doesn't scale with cast speed) that makes the fact that they're channeled just a bonus basically

So unless they basically revamp channeled skills/itemization you're probably better off it not being channeled. The only thing with dancing strikes is that it has a capped use rate which is hindering it a ton. What you should really want is for them to get rid / improve on that. Tree is also outdated obviously

[severe socket]

I guess.

But then again, it has mechanical issues as well. Specifically, each of the links in the chain has its own AoE hitbox which is wonky AF at best.

Which makes the skill hard to aim in single-target scenarios.

And it looks hella goofy too.

[stable shoal]

Warpath is good cause warrior fury you get rid of that and is pretty garbage, they should someday look at skill and at least buff the more multiplier by a lot maybe that way they won't suck vs the better skills

[severe socket]

Throwing numbers at a skill without fixing the underlying mechanical issues won't make the skill better/more comfortable.

[stable shoal]

No but at least playable

[simple bison]

Nah warpath is honestly pretty decent even without warriors fury. Obviously I'm not talking 100 mil DPS or anything but you can do all content including ubby without it

Warriors fury just makes it even stronger in exchange for some jank

[stable shoal]

Without it shows me an uber video

[simple bison]

I don't know of one but I and others I know have done it. Warriors fury doesn't make you tankier or anything, it just gives you more damage. It'll obviously take longer but otherwise not much would be different

[severe socket]

While on the weird skill mechanic topic... Sometimes I can't help but wonder what was the intent behind things like Ring of Shields and Smelter's Wrath.

And Decoy among other things.

[willow sentinel]

RoS is a defensive tools, block projectiles
Smelter Wrath is supposed to give that big bonk feeling
Is decoy not supposed to be so kind of get the focus away from you tool?

[severe socket]

It lasts way too little to matter, really. The long cooldown doesn't justify that.

MA handles threat management much better, and it's permanent too.

If they wanted Decoy to be an actual, you know, decoy, they could've just let it sit out there for a much longer duration and emit taunt pulses every so often with a decaying chance similar to how Recurve works.

The way it works now is just a glorified No Man's Land explosive trap.

Speaking of NML and similar mechanics: they REALLY need to check where those traps end up sitting after the throw. As of now they just fan out and hit the untraversable terrain, utterly useless. Just distribute them over a circular area around the cursor with traversability in mind, and it's good.

[stable shoal]

Yeah but vs uber you want the fight to be faster,same vs killing mobs in high corruption the faster they die the less deaths,damage you take

[severe socket]

As of RoS... What else is this skill for, blocking projectiles aside?

Also looking for ways to actually make it good at what it does (or is supposed to).

[willow sentinel]

Don't need to taunt pulse since it has a ton of threat

Also too much duration not enough cd could lead to perma decoy

Meaning you are never in danger of getting focused

[severe socket]

Then all the reactive nodes in the tree can be safely deleted because the duration doesn't justify them being there.

Again: MA and Warstomp.

[willow sentinel]

Kinda fit the theme of a unga bunga melee character no?
You are slow and Melee, what's your biggest threat? Proj
I am not saying the skills are good, don't get me wrong. I am saying thematically they are fitting and kinda do the job they are intended to do.
Now are they good, or relevant in the way the game is actually played, I don't think so

[severe socket]

Now are they good, or relevant in the way the game is actually played, I don't think so
The whole point I'm trying to get at.

One skill at a time. Define purpose. Dissect. Iterate. Employ form-from-function and spot the branches the skill can pivot towards. Expand on those. Iterate again.

Make. It. Worth. The. While.

Quite a lot of skills so far show that they can be fun to screw around with. Shouldn't be at the expense of the rest.

And there definitely should be some foresight to what interacts with those skills and in which way. For example, I legit do not understand why Ravager's Dart is the way it is, knowing that Heartseeker can't be accessed by the other two masteries at all and there's absolutely nothing across the mastery that would justify a Marksman to ditch her whole theme and the bulk of the damage and choose the attack type that doesn't have a sliver of support within the tree.

Had it been an early-lefty or a baseline rogue skill, now that would've been a different picture.

Same with Jelkhor's Blast Knife and Detonating Arrow. One more mastery-exclusive skill blown out of the picture for some meme value.

Sure, it can work out to a degree, but it has its hard limits.

[glass pendant]

I would gladly offer that dagger up as a sacrifice for a usable bow

that's my marksman copium for the day

[severe socket]

Legit, I feel like Marksman is systematically made a clown of itself on purpose. To what end, I have no bloody idea. And since ranged combat is my preference in every game I play, it hurts extra to see it in this state.

[glass pendant]

This game needs bow flat more than it does bug fixing

[sly turret]

Archer is fine. I 1st timed normal abberoth with marksman in HC

[severe socket]

On that note, I would be happy to see something to enable melee/throwing→bow attack conversion anything.

[sly turret]

On a whole the game needs rebalancing though

[severe socket]

Umbral Blades or Sync Strike would be great.

[glass pendant]

4min uber with 3lp gear on heartseeker is not what I'd call fine.

The only competitive marksman build is hail of arrows and even that isn't even close to the goliaths of both s2 and s3

It's sad how the best marksman build uses a falconer skill

[severe socket]

I wish HoA would be not just an AoE DoT cushion.

Sure, there's Skystrike, but it only hits once.

And it barely interacts with any other skills too.

[glass pendant]

Hail of arrows doing bow dot with the new heartseeker dart helmet is really good at bossing in terms of an "average balanced build" but this is an arpg, there's no need for something to need so much support to get going when other builds clear with the bare minimum and kill things in seconds max geared

Imo marksman has been left out for way too long

The best marksman setup is the same copy paste trap flask build that deletes all of the content right now

[severe socket]

heartseeker dart helmet
converts HS into a throwing attack.

Which means it doesn't benefit from the entirety of the MM tree anymore.

WHATSOEVER.

[glass pendant]

Yeah but it's not used for damage it's just a passive modifier stack that adds modifiers passively

The focus is HoA

[severe socket]

Still doesn't feel right at all.

[autumn briar]

there's a super fast mm uber kill on youtube that isnt flask, not sure how it works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jNPEdISpiI

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/max2/character/lucass

hydra arc flurry ?

i thought it wasnt meant to work on channelled but looks like maybe it does

[glass pendant]

Yeah it's flurry

This definitely looks like an oversight lol

[autumn briar]

his gear kinda dogshit also unless that's not his actual gear

i dunno, this might be something worth looking into

seems busted

the stun is actually working too which is why his time is better than mine, i think he stunned out of dr phase

[glass pendant]

That doesn't seem like the same build though am I tripping

I see blade explosions

Did his umbrals explode once

[autumn briar]

the planner and the vid?

yeah i dunno, seems sus

[glass pendant]

I don't believe anything looks "hacked" there or whatever in the vid, it does definitely feel like a weird flurry hydra interaction but I'm doubting the planner relates to the vid

[autumn briar]

someone can take it offline and figure it out if they can be bothered

seems like its just a boss killer also. still, pretty cool.

[rancid pulsar]

wouldn't be the first or the last time that Flurry has weird interactions it's not supposed to

[merry abyss]

Nah there is nothing hacked. Channel flurry simply snapshots all possible mechanics from skills and passives for massive dmg

Pretty similar to what you can do with mana stacking DA

[knotty galleon]

is it?

[south moat]

Yes

[knotty galleon]

ah i just saw that i was playing on legacy lmao

[south moat]

Like sure, it's not the most active currently
But that's just the nature of arpgs
people play for a week or two and then they're done and come back when there's new content

[knotty galleon]

thats probably the community then

arpg coomunity turned so sad

like in any other game it matters but more if it's an arpg

[main frigate]

it's fine, good morning/afternoon/evening, remember to stay hydrated

Persons whose greet with how are we going 5 days a week/stay hydrated/call here le fams here are left but I can carry on these warm moments

[severe socket]

Somehow, yes. Why? Is that so wrong? 🙂

[young night]

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[azure geyser]

F

[azure geyser]

did they ever fix the flurry wave thingy that broke last league?

[pseudo crown]

remind me: if I eternity cache a class-locked exalt is the resulting legendary class-locked?

[chilly ember]

only if the affixes that become slammed are class locked.

[sullen dew]

new to le any clan or guild recruit

[night marten]

not really in game

there maybe some servers in #1361743745116016780

[sullen dew]

ah ok ty

[knotty jetty]

hola

[tidal heart]

You have been in this discord for 4 years and come in once every few months to ask this question. Holy dude, this game has some committed haters.

[glass pendant]

I envy those people honestly

They find joy in simple things

[full bane]

phew I got scared
I took an IQ test the other day
I am happy to announce that the test came back negative

[digital oriole]

lol

[severe socket]

You've had it easy. Some get two stripes.

[severe socket]

Not the first time, tbh.

[tidal heart]

So over these people rage baiting over $30 years ago, the game is not making any money, they would scream at Mike as he closes the doors to the company that they did not get their $30 worth as they shutting down their company.

@pliant falcon TLI and D4 yet come here to cry lmao

[severe socket]

<@&1161418687471956101> I believe we need some sense-knocking therapy session here.

[tidal heart]

yet you here

and you keep coming back

🤣

nah you just a loser who makes no friends in any of their games

so you gotta come troll

[severe socket]

@tidal heart Do not engage. Just block and move on.

[tidal heart]

nah I like this

I come from league, I aint gonna sit back and let these kids cry and cry

[severe socket]

Carry on, I guess.

[strange umbra]

Hey all - lets please follow rule #1 🙂

[severe socket]

Oh hi Muffin.

[strange umbra]

https://tenor.com/UeTV.gif

[earnest pelican]

yeah its a fine line - if you say the wrong thing in response to people rage baiting and trolling **you **get muted x.x

[strange umbra]

[earnest pelican]

lol

[severe socket]

...bro doubles down instead. -_-

[earnest pelican]

perma ban material

[tidal heart]

add me we can dm this

[strange umbra]

@pliant falcon lets keep it clean and practice Rule #1 please

[earnest pelican]

nice hes still here - yesterday i said someone was just rage baiting and not contributing to chat and i got 60 mins

[severe socket]

No chance at that, I believe. Fire away.

[regal finch]

i just hope the aggressive emote reacts can be erasing-striked as well 😬

[earnest pelican]

classic

[tidal heart]

waiting for the FR @pliant falcon

🤣

you kind of showing your age

[night marten]

time to move on

everyone

[earnest pelican]

lol

[severe socket]

Thank you so much Eagles. ❤️

Patience definitely isn't government-issued.

[glass pendant]

wow I missed the show 💔

I blame silksong

[strange umbra]

Trying to decide what LE tattoo I want on my other hand

MG icon or Acolyte/Necro icon

[glass pendant]

"We fight for nothing"

[night marten]

the correct answer is owobyss emote

[regal finch]

20 warcried void squirrels

[strange umbra]

rofl

[simple bison]

Shatter strike icon

[strange umbra]

I have the "epoch" compass on my right hand - specifically the 1.2 recolor

was still fresh here - it looks much better after it healed up and using tattoo ointment 🙂

[simple bison]

Orobyss would be kinda sick

or a monolith

This is what you should really get though

[strange umbra]

I was debating MG vs Necro because I made the whole backend/DB for the Bazaar... and Necro because I am a minion main all day every day lol and Necro is my fav

[pastel summit]

Spellblade? Do people still use those?

[simple bison]

I'd say mg

[simple bison]

No, just me :P

[strange umbra]

[regal finch]

Grael's entire script 📜 ✒️

[pastel summit]

MG is the losing faction in the item PvP fight though.

[strange umbra]

HERESY

[regal finch]

i kinda hate how in online games item acquisition is often a form of PvPing as well 💀

[strange umbra]

lol

one of the big reasons we dont allow item flipping in LE

or maybe I will get a tattoo of.... fjahsldkfuya8f9w349(&#^%(@&#...........
<Muffin dragged away by the LE police>

[main frigate]

Grogery: I'm here too

[strange umbra]

hehe

Ave kept trying to get me to get Gregory

[main frigate]

Perfect. I'll be the 2nd person

The epoch tatto looks quite blue so I don't know... where 1.2 recolour is

[strange umbra]

the weaver logo variant

[main frigate]

oh...forget that completely. Thanks for the reminder. I just remember the colour of this vfx #❔┃ask-the-community message

So I have thought light pastel purple and pastel yellow, they're not blue

[strange umbra]

haha ya sorry 🙂

[cold drum]

Do it

[strange umbra]

GREGORY IS LIFE

[simple bison]

Get maybe a gregory reference, like a muffin with a barrel hat

[strange umbra]

oh shit

that is such a good idea

[pastel summit]

Praise the spider milf

[strange umbra]

I have so many muffin tattoos already

whats one more?

❤️

[simple bison]

Yeah it'd fit in

[cold drum]

🗣️ 🔉 MAN IS SPITTING FACTS

[strange umbra]

[simple bison]

I've spoken to Gregory. And he is indeed life

He gave me my mastery

Very charitable

[pastel summit]

Greogory give's masteries now?

[simple bison]

He always has

[pastel summit]

Do you get to meet him if you wait until the end of chapter 3 to get mastery?

[simple bison]

I can't blow up Gregory's spot like that

[silk cloak]

are servers lagging for everyone?

[main frigate]

He's server guy. You come in a right time

[strange umbra]

my dashboards are all green - likely an issue between you and our servers (like a bad hop somewhere)

or client lag (not all lag is servers) - could be a mem leak or something

feel free to make an in-game bug report

[nocturne tide]

earlier me and my son got DC error, asia server

[quartz shale]

CAN I HAVE SOME ASSISTANCE

=3

[simple bison]

With?

[quartz shale]

Imma be honest super bored and just wanna hang with someoen in voice, hit some story beat teleport locations and chill.

[simple bison]

xd

Sorry, I'm not playing currently and will likely get off fairly soon anyway since it's 9pm here

[quartz shale]

I played last in closed beta but had to stop becaue of sickness

Im playing on linux and about to set up my vtuber model.

😄

[simple bison]

You can try your luck in #👥┃lfg , that's what the channel is for. But we're midway through a season so it's fairly slow currently. People will just hang out in open voice channels on this server though.

[quartz shale]

Oh i know, only the ladder sweats and guys like me are playing

PS, when this comes to ps5, will it be cross compatible play with pc players?

[simple bison]

We have no idea currently. With my extremely limited knowledge unless the PS and Steam login servers for some reason clash, which I don't think they should but I have no clue honestly. There shouldn't be a major reason why there wouldn't be crossplay. But we'll just have to wait and see, maybe there's challenges I'm unaware of (very likely).

[buoyant turret]

ffxiv does it so technically its possible

[simple bison]

A good amount of games do it

But not all games are made the same

[pearl sandal]

Cross play is pretty common with PS nowadays, it’s cross progression that Sony doesn’t allow (micro transactions have to be bought through their store, can’t share across platforms)

[fallen iron]

what are people's thoughts on the best way to farm havocs?

[chilly ember]

rampant coast and uber

[fallen iron]

sadly uber is a bit off limits for me on HC, I've found rampant coast to be only meh, is it really faster than like just farming rift beasts and trying to get rare rune?

[chilly ember]

ye you just imprint it shows up all the time takes like 10 seconds and prints havocs

[fallen iron]

yeah that's what I do, the printing havocs part isn't what I've seen so far, maybe 1 in 5-10 drop havocs?

might just be I've been unlucky so far tho

I'll farm some more and give it a second shot 🙂

[chilly ember]

it’s around that but usually you get a bunch of havocs when it does

the only other real options are the rare enemies are enraged node in weaver tree (requires dungeon node which is supper rippy in hc) and generic rune prophecies (which are a massive pain to do and the returns really aren’t all that great)

[fallen iron]

yeah the generic rune prophecy is slow, I've had some luck resetting beasts to get the first evolution to be rare rune

I don't think I'm likely to rip to anything besides uber, I might give the enraged node a try too, thanks for the info!

[chilly ember]

the main reason it’s rippy is the dungeon node can spawn possessed golems which are extremely extremely dangerous due to how they scale appearing in mono

and you have to take that node to get to rare enemies are enraged node

[fallen iron]

yeah appreciate the warning, I have a couple lvl 100 chars to rip so it's worth a try lol

[merry abyss]

the aoe and 5x dmg depending on your position? no 🙂

[tidal laurel]

So, how bad has the outpoor of hate about the possibility of charging for the expansion been?

I’ll gladly pay for an expansion if it avoids other forms of monetization creep, personally

[obtuse tinsel]

here we go again

[tidal laurel]

What?
Paid expansions were how it was done when AAA games were good.
I’ll go with what I know has resulted in quality in the past over the new BS invented out of greed

[buoyant turret]

its just been the same convo over and over since the announcement is all

[tidal laurel]

Ah
That’s fair

[silk compass]

Wait to see what comes next, and then decide whether you’ll keep playing or quit the game.

Talking about this without knowing anything is a waste of time, just enjoy the moment.

[calm jay]

I'll do what I do every single other time: I'll let people buy into the 'day one experience' and tell the devs what's wrong, they'll patch some things and then I'll buy later on when the product's been given a little spit-shine. 😄

[dense shell]

im pretty patient i always wait for a sale

[buoyant turret]

i try to evaluate this kind of stuff on cost vs amount of time i get entertainment out of it. and id rather invest in a game i enjoy than just randomly buying new ones. i probably spend more on coffee a month than what any expansion would cost heh

[tropic cove]

It's such a dumb argument against a game that wasn't even released at full price to begin with. Paid expansions are the standard, not the exception.

[elder barn]

Enraged rares absolutely stacks havocs

[tidal laurel]

I wish more people would understand this

Sadly, too many people either forgot or are too young to know this

Either that or they cried and seethed when D2: LoD came out too 😂

[buoyant turret]

i got my cpu today and spent most of the afternoon and early evening cleaning and installing its really nice to turn everything up and enjoy. my warpath doesnt stutter anymore! 😉

[calm jay]

Warpath is my next sentinel up probably. Got a Smite Paladin I wanna get to 100, and then my Forge Guard probably... I just wanna keep making Sentinels lol

[buoyant turret]

its an awesome class. LE has gotten me into styles of play i usually had passed on, paladins and rogues in particular. i knew primalist and acolyte would be my jam from other games but they put a twist on the other i really enjoy

vk war is hands down the best spin to win ive seen in a game

[calm jay]

For me it was Mage and Rogue, I knew Primalist and Sentinel were my bros and I love both to death, but Mage is wild fun here.

Also yeah wtf, it's silly. Warpath is just spin2win done so well

[buoyant turret]

mage im still struggling to find something i like. im used to more pure caster builds and the melee/spell combo is something im not used to. everyone else theres like 3-5 builds easily i enjoy

[main frigate]

lol A few people have complaint suggestions channel is hard to use because it will delete the message automatically if the format is wrong

Just get up... Good noon

[calm jay]

So for me the big 'click' on Mage was Runemaster. I love me some Spellblade too, don't get me wrong, but Runemaster just has it. Runic Invocation alone is worth at least trying out in my opinion

[buoyant turret]

i really havent gotten one to a point where i can play with endgame builds. i see glacier and shattering strike lvling guides and i cant get into either

[calm jay]

I haven't really been following guides yet; I'll probably do that when I have way more progress, but I'm also still learning about the endgame progression as-is.

[main frigate]

Archmage? The only build I used to level up and farm in endgame

Stack as more max mana as possible so static orb have more damage to one-shot bosses. Frostclaw is a perfect skill to clear maps.

🤔 I don't recommend mentor because it's too struggled on single target

But don't play warlock if you want to play as a pure caster because the defense of warlock is too weak... It cause warlock as squishy as marksman

Stack as more necrotic resistences as possible is a cool mechanic but it just let layers of defense too single and hard to balance another resistances.

[severe socket]

I wonder if EHG is aware of the recently uncovered security issue in Unity. NRFTW already has a fix out.

[pearl orbit]

they know

[main frigate]

I received that unity's security reminder email yesterday but I don't connect it with le

[inner finch]

worst case, it will go into some hotfix, along with maybe some Falconer buffs

[outer lily]

Please elaborate

[simple bison]

They are

[buoyant turret]

i absolutely love lock playstyle, have had a lot of fun leveling it, but yeah you dont really see a lot of endgame with it

ward stack/fissure/bolts is a super fun level

[sullen lotus]

cascade

[outer lily]

Why is Rampant Coast considered the farming meta?
You can get Crystallised Heart but 🤷‍♀️

[tardy bison]

drops bones, to buy amber, to buy more echoes.

[severe socket]

https://unity.com/security/sept-2025-01/remediation

[severe socket]

Good to know, thanks.

[simple bison]

Btw the vulnerability is not something that can be exploited easily. You need to have a malicious file already on your computer, all the vulnerability is is that unity doesn't really check whether or not certain files in certain locations are supposed to be there or not and just loads them. So for games without something like steam workshop where you can download files from the community there is pretty much 0 risk. Steam has already pretty much solved it for all games on their platform by refusing to launch games that would be able to load such files and Unity has also released a patching tool for devs to rebuild the project with. But because LE is on steam only and doesn't have any functionality that someone could exploit through the vulnerability it's not really surprising we don't have a patch specifically addressing it. I don't know what functionality NRFTW would have that would let someone exploit the vulnerability, maybe having to load others worlds when playing on their world or something?

TLDR: The exploit is if someone puts a virus on your computer unity will just run it kinda lol

[severe socket]

Lol. The audacity.

[severe socket]

Isn't it better when the issue is handled before it can cause any harm?

[simple bison]

I don't think I said otherwise, was just giving context.

[main frigate]

lol this cycle looks more and more interesting with more and more games under this game type I tried...

Different games inspired from similar games each other. You will see a's passive tree from b, b will refer c's gameplay and d's level design, d will follow a's rhythm of campaign and b's UI, it's the way for this game type to work

Just very interesting xdddd

[willow sentinel]

@round lake Moving here

You need
Title: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Suggestion: xxxxxxxxxxxx
Or
Feedback: xxxxxxxxxxxx if you are in feedback

I can get your message back if you want

So you can copy paste it

And format it properly

[glass pendant]

Title: Falconer
Suggestion: Buff

[willow sentinel]

@round lake Lets not spam dev chat please, when its not the right place

@round lake Next time you use the clown emote like this I will have to TO you

[main frigate]

👀

[glass pendant]

damn, making Vlad overwork

Bro woke up on a mission

[paper field]

weaponizing the clown emote. what a monster

[tropic cove]

I was weaponizing the clown emote before you were born!

man I've been farming randomly thinking it'd be nice to get a belt upgrade but just now checked where my belt drops and it's a woven echo, no wonder I haven't seen another one

[reef dock]

I volunteer to write a bot for #feedback and #suggestions that isn't super frustrating

[shell granite]

Hello guys

Im thinking about buying the game. I got the 34 euros in my steam balance and im deciding if to buy the game.

Is the any expansion/dlcs i should buy and is the game casual and fun.

[south moat]

There are no expansions / dlc for the game so far.
Only cosmetic stuff
The game is casual friendly and can be fun if you like the genre

[severe socket]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[shell granite]

i have played diablo 4 and poe2. and many other games. I just don't have the time to grind out tons and tons off stuff anymore. So im looking for a casual good chill game.

[main frigate]

No harm for trying and experiencing more games when you can.

I tried these games by this order:

le -> poe -> d4 -> poe 2 -> dragonkin -> tq 2 -> wolcen

If you mean this game type

[frozen prairie]

wait, you've tried wolcen after poe2??

[shell granite]

Yea these kinds of games. What game did you always go back to if you ever did?

[severe socket]

TQ1 → GD → PoE1 → LE for me.

[main frigate]

?

[frozen prairie]

Sorry, I thought wolcen doesn't exist anymore

[main frigate]

I never play wolcen until today 👀

[south moat]

Wolcen servers aren't up anymore but it can be played offline

[frozen prairie]

oh, nice to know

[shell granite]

Is there like a season thing in Last Epoch? Like in D4

[main frigate]

yes

[shell granite]

When is the current season going to end?

[main frigate]

but the same content available in both of season and legacy

[shell granite]

Nice

[south moat]

Somewhere around december / january

[shell granite]

okay

Classes in the game? is it the usual Warrior Mage ect?

Or can you combine classes like in grim dawn?

[south moat]

It's the usual classes with 3 sub classes for all
and you can put in points to the other sub classes than what you pick as the mastery

[shell granite]

Sounds good

I might give it a try

[south moat]

I hope you like it if you do

[severe socket]

Welcome aboard 👋

[shell granite]

I usually tend to getr overwhelmed if the game is super complex but i pushed through. D4, Poe2 and other titles

Is this game more on the easier or complexs side

[severe socket]

It's a nice middle ground.

[shell granite]

Okay

[severe socket]

Complex enough to keep people engaged, but at the same time simple enough to not become an Excel simulator.

Both PoE games are distilled insanity in that regard. The Excel sim part, that is.

[shell granite]

🤣 Okay imma give it a try.

[severe socket]

Though nothing ever gets remotely close to EVE Online to be completely blunt 😄

That one is a full-time job hands down.

[shell granite]

I fully completed Poe2 a while ago though it took a long time. so this should be a piece of a cake?

[azure geyser]

i dont remember what broke lel

[shell granite]

I mean i played all of the current content in Poe2

[severe socket]

I think so.

[shell granite]

Nice

[cold drum]

Depends. This game only has one Uber boss and depending on your mechanical skill / build, it can take you a while to down him

but generally yes, LE is not a difficult game

[shell granite]

Allrighty.

[main frigate]

Too amazing for what you've done because I find farm t15 maps always boring, none of trials are interesting, I don't understand the game well to enter endgame as early as possible and sell valuable items, so I'm too poor to afford the cost of upgrades and another builds.

I'm quite happy if 2d can in my stash all the time instead of I have to exchange all d to e so I can juice maps

I never explore poe 2 freely due to the limit of my skills

[shell granite]

If we talking about Poe2 now. I’ve kind of hit a wall with Poe2. I got pretty burnt out it stopped being fun and just felt super hard to even open the game for me all the time. I still pushed through for a while hoping it would click again but it never really did.

The T15 maps are horrible. I might go back to the game when the game is going to be fully released

But for now hell no xD

[main frigate]

I spent money on net bosster is the biggest power xd (I need that to play poe 2)

[shell granite]

xD. I always hated the game for being like p2w you need to buy more stash slots ect. It's not necessary but it helps a TON

Atleast helped for me. And the goddamn Third party sites where you can buy stuff for your character.

[main frigate]

The performance of poe 2... 🥴

[shell granite]

It wasn't that bad for me.

[main frigate]

Nice, le is better than poe 2 a lot on performance too

[shell granite]

As long as it's not a p2w and pretty casual I think im gonna be okay lol

[main frigate]

I often play slides when abyssal enemies are popping out

[shell granite]

Nice. Im glad my pc is quite a beast so it should run everything pretty good.

Im always stuck in the class selection for hours. Deciding what class to pick. so give me reccomendation

[main frigate]

Art/animation of poe 2 is the best but its performance is the worst

[shell granite]

It was beautiful

I hated the early game of poe2

It was ass

[south moat]

What kind of gameplay do you like?

[shell granite]

I like as much visuals on the screen and i like to melee. I hate ranged. Mage is not that bad but bows no thank you

And no pets that do the job for you

[south moat]

Sentinel might be for you then
Got the classic spin to win

[silk compass]

I have 800 hours in PoE2, and what I hate the most is the visual clutter.

sometimes you can’t see anything

[shell granite]

Allrighty. is necromancer a melee in this game?

or the basic summon skeletons ect.

[silk compass]

you want a acolyth melee?

play with lich flay

[south moat]

Necromancer is summoner
if you want melee acolyte you pretty much want to go Lich instead of Necromancer

[shell granite]

Allrighty ill try that out if it looks good.

[silk compass]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/harvest-lich-guide

after level 70 you can do this build and farm to swap for mana version

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/flay-mana-lich-guide mana version

[shell granite]

allrighty

[silk compass]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMSOqWD_pCI if you want to see a gameplay

[shell granite]

is this build a dual wielding scythe thingy

[shell granite]

ill look at it now

Yea im sold xD

Ill go with this

hope it's good

[silk compass]

I played the entire Season 3 with this build

[shell granite]

nice

can you send me a dm of these links?

so they don't disappear to the top of this channel

xD

[silk compass]

add me

i cant dm you

[shell granite]

Wait these both links say i need to be lvl 70?

reccomended

[main frigate]

lv 70 is the min character level required to get max level of a skill (lv 20)

[silk compass]

Maxroll has leveling builds up to level 70 and starter builds for level 70

[shell granite]

Okay.

[silk compass]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/warlock-leveling-guide I leveled with this build

[south moat]

It takes a while to get Flay in the first place

[silk compass]

If you gonna leveling with warlock remember to save gold to respec

[shell granite]

👍

[main frigate]

.......Why play warlock to level up instead of play lich directly?

[south moat]

Because Lich lvling is not very comfortable
easier to do it as warlock

[main frigate]

......I never know I can level up in this way

[silk compass]

exactly, warlock is more comfortable

[south moat]

Well it's possible after season2 allowing player to change mastery

I leveled as Lich for my flay character and it was pretty much suffering until I got to Flay
and even then it took a while to get rolling

[fathom carbon]

🙂

[outer lily]

had a couple questions regarding rift beast earlier, 2nd times the charm 🙂

1. Does the Rift Beast from Evolution's End benefit from Minion buffs from gear?
2. Does the Rift Beast from Rampant Coast count as a boss / rare / champion for prophecies?
3. Can Rift Portals open in Conquered Tower / Unclaimed Trove / Rampant Coast?

[willow sentinel]

1. Yes it's a Minion
2. Rare + boss I want to say
3. 99%'sure they can't

[short locust]

Ambush seems more free to happen in woven echoes than rift portals, iirc

But idk. I think I was ambushed on great bridge (woven echo) or something. Though now that I think about it, idk if that echo can or cannot spawn rift portals

[storm horizon]

gona buy last epoch and megabonk

since i found out both of thease dont need internet so its a easy buy for me

[gusty radish]

If sentinel is my first build...what would you do for your second build?

[main frigate]

do sentinel

[fathom carbon]

👋

[fathom carbon]

sentinel 2

[gusty radish]

Is sentinel the meta? I'm new to the game lol

[buoyant turret]

wouldnt even sweat meta have fun everything can eventually be respeced aside from class go crazy

[gusty radish]

Yeah this game is so fun haha

[fathom carbon]

yeah, i loved playing with a bee build last season

[buoyant turret]

that being said void knight warpath does like 1k+ corruption is yeah. every class has a banger and a lot of maybe not as strong but viable builds

[fathom carbon]

bees and squirrels for victory

[gusty radish]

I'm picking up so much gear and don't know what to do with it haha

[pastel summit]

Void knight and paladin are two different extremes.

[simple bison]

I feel like every mastery except maybe shaman (think shaman too but I don't know any builds personally) has a build capable of 1k+ corruption

[thorn bane]

Shaman reflect and storm bolts too lol 😆

[outer lily]

Do we classify Rogue builds that die to a fart as "capable"?

Or perhaps there are builds that don't, I haven't looked too much into Rogue 🤷‍♀️

[outer lily]

melee can never be meta KEKW

[covert scaffold]

So many times have I bricked my build only to return a week later to find new ways to either fix it or improve the previous build
This is why the flexibility to reset talents and passives is a massive W for LE to me

[tropic cove]

Meta isn't real, play what's fun

[broken siren]

so whenever I go into echo of a world while having a shrine buff I get dced. I know this is why because it's happened 3 times now

[cobalt fable]

with krafton will only get worse

[buoyant turret]

rogue is inherently a glass cannon - thats what it does. hits like a brick and falls over to a feather

it falls into a niche that honestly im terrible at, but dont get hit and things cant kill you if they are already dead.

[upper current]

UBER ABERROTH!

[simple bison]

Ironically rogue is also able to climb the highest in terms of corruption because of silver shrouds.

[buoyant turret]

oh it absolutely slaps but you dont get speed, damage, AND tanky .. like it'd be insane. there has to be some trade off

movement is baked into rogue it doesnt want to stand still

[simple bison]

I mean you kinda do. It's just that you're not actually tanky, but because you kill everything so fast you only need to not get hit by the occasional attack that gets through. While other classes can kill things just as fast they'll die to that hit, since no class can get tanky enough to survive 20k corruption. But silver shrouds mean that enemy damage doesn't matter as long as your clear isn't slow

[buoyant turret]

it feels a lot like true delve builds in poe

[simple bison]

Pretty much

[upper current]

gahhh uber aberoth is harder!

[simple bison]

Can be

But every mastery can kill ubby

Pretty much only rogue can do 10k+ corruption reliably :P

[upper current]

i wonder..why not stun % cap instead?

(it's how I died twice now in uber abberoth)

[buoyant turret]

the feel when you finally drop worldsplitter and it does 10k less damage than the weapon you have lol. time to farm some lp's

[fallen iron]

out of curiosity what warlock builds are killing uber this patch?

[tropic cove]

Try repairing your install. That's too common of situation for it to be a bug, lots of people would be talking about it.

[latent acorn]

Please devs let us smoke memory amber like crack I can’t take using 8 havoc runes on the same item and have the fo be preserved all the time while not hitting the affix I desperately need

[plain idol]

Just read the latest news post. Might be a controversial opinion but I think it would make sense for them to charge for the new content. The game itself costs money while PoE is free to play. Cosmetics haven't been enough to make a decent profit but PoE also sells stash tabs and have been quite profitable. I'd rather buy a dlc than have limited stash tabs.

[inner finch]

Not controversial at all. no income = no game

[median perch]

Are u krafton fan?

You are doing something fans often do, which is spreading and promoting the ideals of your idol

[main frigate]

If I have money, I rather to pay new gameplay instead of new costumes. So I have no idea why people obsessed in purchasing mtx

This is a game, not a mtx showcase. Gameplay is the most important thing forever.

Artstation is a better place if someone just want to enjoy something beautiful on visual. These epic character art are free to enjoy.

[median perch]

If everyone thought like you, we could only play games in offline mode, the costs of operating and developing games are not cheap at all.

[inner finch]

We can criticize how unappealing lots of the MTX store items are in LE, and there's definitely a chance that even if they were always great we'd still end up in this situation

[main frigate]

🤔 yes I guess... The sense of online games is socialize?

People want to play a game together, they can't play multiplayer games if this game is offline only?

[lusty quarry]

i feel like the visual design and direction of the game is not helpful to create a greate MTX store.

the whole game looks like a remastered PS2 game

[main frigate]

EHG hiring a new art director to solve mtx issues indeed

[willow sentinel]

Good morning travelers

[lusty quarry]

you need to overhaul the entire game visuals, all world environments, most creatures specially void creatures.

[inner finch]

There's a ton of visual improvements to be had if LE wants to be at the top, no doubt

This can be related to animation, sound design, UI UX, design language, UI feedback

The game does show its indie roots, which some can consider a bit of a charm

[main frigate]

🤔 ............

lol

I just can say I seen games with more indie art styles so le did a good job already

[inner finch]

I have a mountain of things to say about LE's design, but I don't think its of much benefit. EHG seem to know their weak points and there's a good reason they are hiring fresh art people

[main frigate]

0% complains about their art I have because they're done well I think. If upgrade a special weapon art or a few cloths, the entire system need to matched with these changes so I understand why are they did nothing

That's the level of current art director can do. It's just a problem that is it your tea or not.

Wolcen's character design worse than le's a lot lol

AI can do better a lot on visual effects than most artists. But EHG still hire artists to design art.

I hope companies like that is more so talented artists can live well as humans...

Judd can dismiss the whole art team and use AI tools to help him solve art's issue completely. Art part is money-consuming.

[inner finch]

I'd personally uninstall and never touch a game that uses AI to design its assets lol

[main frigate]

At the end, we're not play a game, we're doing a choice for should we trust this boss, this people.

[lusty quarry]

do you also only travel on horseback and use oil based lanterns?

i personally dont care how the game is made if it is fun then it is fun.

[inner finch]

no, i just appreciate human-made art is all

I value it as something i enjoy

[main frigate]

I wonder the boss of EHG is a supporter of "I don't care how these game art made, they're just need to be profitable" or "I value human-made art always, I believe exclusive values in their work always"

They're for different audiences. Completely different player groups.

[lusty quarry]

maybe the game should be F2P

[main frigate]

Lol it will light the entire community again

Paid players will 💢

[lusty quarry]

why? just give them a couple of premium season pass and some EP

[main frigate]

What ep is?

[lusty quarry]

shop points

the game is in need of free access, even some free weekends for starter

the fake lighting effect on some texture is just repolsive

#❔┃ask-the-community message

[severe socket]

The game in general shows quite a lot of gloss. Wonder why.

[lusty quarry]

yes, was looking for the term.
glossy

[main frigate]

Glossy is a bad thing?... I appreciate the glossy textures

That's le's exclusive art features

[lusty quarry]

it implies there is light being reflected, but the environment has no light source

[main frigate]

Understand. So what le need is a light artist

[severe socket]

Thing is, even character models are way too glossy.

It's like matte has been voided on purpose.

[main frigate]

😂😅... I'm a fan of glossy textures on the opposite

[severe socket]

It's like the characters are in constant process of taking oiled massage or something.

Looks off.

Especially prominent on everything very low graphics-wise.

What leaves me dumbfounded is the way the game exploits the absolute crap out of my hardware while being on everything toned all the way down to reduce the strain.

The moment I'm in the field, both blowers start going nuts.

Been like that for as long as I remember.

[lusty quarry]

exactly 100%

they need to up the minimum system requirements from:
CPU:
i5-2500 to i5-10400
FX-4350 to ryzen 3 5300G

GPU:
GTX 1060 to RTX 2060
RX 580 to RX 5700

this will make baseline similar to PS5 performance

[severe socket]

Maybe there should be further optimizations taking place first...

Maybe.

I really wish to know how experienced+skilled they are in that regard.

[inner finch]

There's a type of echo level that it's background alone reduces your performance by 50-60%

The burning forest

[severe socket]

I still have Wengari Fortress PTSD.

I used to have raging FPS dips in there. All the way down to 9-10.

It's been marginally better lately, but the dips are still noticeable.

Still the same enemies, still the same hiccups.

Same used to be happening in Solarum right after we're yeeted back to Divine Era to fetch the lance.

I recall Twisted Mire echo being horrible to my hardware too back in the day.

[lusty quarry]

the hardware i mentioned is PS5 equivelant hardware, and since they are releasing on PS5 they need to optimize around similar level of hardware

[severe socket]

Makes sense.

[main frigate]

Lol that's another thing I'm confused. Le performance is pretty well... Better than Poe 2 a lot

[steel mesa]

I noticed improved performance after the latest patch but... for most of 0.3 I struggled actually enjoying poe2

[simple bison]

Not necessarily. Consoles hardware is static and as such way easier to optimize for compared to pc. It's not unusual to have a port for each console independently for the sake of catering to each of their hardware. Obviously that's also more expensive and so you also see ports that are basically copy paste which often have performance issues.

[outer lily]

speaking of performance, tomb and Rampant Coast cause massive freezes for me, and particularly in Rampant Coast the last thing I want is a freeze lol

oh, Temple in the Sky also has performance issues, but there's it's lags instead of freezes

[regal finch]

usually i have 80-90 FPS, but in Eterra's temple i once had 20 😬 i feel like the more Air Elementals i run past, the lower my FPS gets. the first few times when i actually murdered everything in sight, the FPS never dropped this low.

[versed sky]

Anybody else suffering with ping?

Mine is over 200 in every server

[stark frost]

As for the Orobyss expansion and potential cost associated with it, I can totally understand it, especially considering this in mind (Quoted directly from Judd): Years ago, when we were a significantly smaller team formed on Reddit, our goal was to not charge for any content, but our cosmetic sales have not been enough to cover our own development costs over the long term.

Relying on cosmetic sales can be hit or miss for some games (And I'm certainly not an expert on why it succeeds for some and fails for others), and much rather than having to say "The game is finished, no more seasons", bringing out high quality expansions with a price to match it would altogether be a much better solution. Especially so if the developers themselves simply like to continue working on the game rather than moving onto entirely new projects in order to cover the costs of making content.

While expansions have been less and less popular for developers, compared to say, season passes or small DLCs and such, they clearly are popular for the consumers. I play Factorio for example, and the expansion has been an overwhelming success (Even from the company's standpoint). If you put in the quality and a price to match it, people that enjoy it will buy it.

For me personally, I see it as an absolute win for Last Epoch. Less time and resources spent developing cosmetics, more time and resources spent on developing on core mechanics of the game. And potential successes may mean more money flowing in to pay salaries and potentially back into investing into further expansions.

I hope it'll work out for EHG.

[main frigate]

I don't understand former paragraphs but I agree with the last one.

No idea what should I expect for expansion

[severe socket]

"The game is finished"
is the line I'm dreading the most, given krapton hogging the picture.

why it succeeds for some and fails for others
To be frank, LE has been facing deathwishing from a GOOD chunk of people out there for as long as I remember since getting involved.

In fact, one such deathwisher has been booted from this server a short while ago.

To this day I have no bloody idea why.

[latent acorn]

Lich feels so good to use post update

[idle tapir]

are the servers down or something right now? I can log in and launch into the game but I can't load into any areas.

[bright hill]

Time to spam monkey meme „roadmap where???”

[idle tapir]

are you guys seriously POd or complaining about the expansion? Is this really the place to be doing that? go on reddit or something

you have $60 every season for a supported pack but you can't fork out $40? wow big wow

[bright hill]

Expansion is such distant future, no point malding for it now

[simple bison]

Soon™

[idle tapir]

yeah and who cares if it costs money? most good things in life are worth paying for but I guess the argument is will it be good? well most of the things they have adde to the game have been pretty good and that seems to be the general feedback from the community

[simple bison]

I'd be fairly surprised if it's even $40 tbh

[idle tapir]

IGN said $40 but I don't trust IGN

[simple bison]

I'd guess it'll be in the 20-30 region considering the game itself is $35

IGN is full of it then because they haven't said a single thing about the cost lol

They're just guessing

[idle tapir]

yeah

IGN baits their articles for views IMO

[simple bison]

Like I'd be fine with $40 but I just think it'd be weird to have an expansion more expensive than the game is pretty much the only reason I'm assuming it'll be less

[bright hill]

I personally care, that’s why I wont but mtx if game are going to be bad or have paid expansions. But I can decide when it happen, not now

[idle tapir]

I just really hope this game continues this is the most fun I've had with an ARPG since Diablo 2

and yes I'm aware the modded D2 community has season's but it's just boring for me at this point

I have over 2k hours on that game ffs

[bright hill]

Me too

[idle tapir]

I keep trying to tell my friends to get this game and they're like "why would I pay for an ARPG when I can just play POE" and I'm like well POE melts your brain and this doesn't so

[simple bison]

Do they play Poe without any stash tabs?

If so respect but that's diabolical lmao

[idle tapir]

I don't ACTUALLY HAVE to use build guides in this game and EXACTLY by the time you've gotten all the tabs you've spent OVER $60

only reason im using a guide now is because the build im playing is overly complicated

Im using like 12 skills in total

necromancer be like

[glass pendant]

d2r's patch notes were the saddest thing I've seen

I think season 12 was the only season with 0 patch notes, not even something irrelevant just for appearances

I don't think I've ever seen a game in my entire life with an update that comes with absolutely 0 patch notes, not even a "bug fix" or just anything to fill the empty space

[idle tapir]

I tried D2 seasonal and honestly didn't like it I prefer vanialla base game playing insane magic find and getting one of every legendary in the game including the one with like .000001 drop rate

[glass pendant]

unique*

[idle tapir]

yeah unique my b

haven't played D2 in probably 5+ years now

I'm big chilling at 308 corruption though it will be interesting to see how far in corruption I can go

[bright hill]

Have you played project diablo 2?

[primal abyss]

Good day and morning, Travelers!

[bright hill]

It could be better with roadmap out

[primal abyss]

Alas, that isn't something I can have for you this morning

So instead I give out free cups of water to keep you hydrated

Hope everyone is well and ate something tasty this weekend

[bright hill]

<sadlizard>

[main frigate]

[main frigate]

#📚┃off-topic message

Sure but not weekend.

[severe socket]

I did. Same reason as with pretty much everything else: horrid lack of disposable income.

Hiya Vandryll. Hope your day is better than mine.

[primal abyss]

That looks quite tasty..and that isn't a flavor I usually eat.

[main frigate]

Americans like chocolate flavour only, reasonable

[primal abyss]

While I enjoy chocolate, I don't think that is my only flavor. I think I'd prefer peanut butter over chocolate. I'm more of a fruit desserts person

Cherry? Blueberry? Apple? Sign me up

[main frigate]

Fruit dessert will more expensive than metcha dessert I believe because good fruit from aboard are expensive. I like fresh fruit only, no bake.

[outer lily]

Because a good chunk of gamers are toxic pieces of dung

[main frigate]

Hah yes... Yellow peach is my favourite :) I mean yellow peach can

Top peaches are from Japan? 🍑 No idea. Lots of fresh kiwi in fridge... But I'm no interest to eat one... Emmmm you remind me of I should eat one tonight

[primal abyss]

Peaches and Kiwi is really good. I think my favorite is Strawberry or a Pear

[main frigate]

My parents will pretty happy to feed you... Lol because food you like is come from the nature directly

I think food is boring if they're too natural

[primal abyss]

Fair. I get it

That's why I believe when it comes to food, to each their own. Just like people able to enjoy a nice meal, a sweet treat or a healthy option if that is their choice

[main frigate]

I want cheese into everything I eat if I can 🤤

[primal abyss]

I love cheese. It just doesn't love me usually, so I try to limit my intake

[south moat]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[south moat]

The lactose or some other thing?
Sorry for being too curious

[primal abyss]

Luckily not that. I can have cheese, dairy and etc but I limit certain fats I eat.

By the end of this you all are about to learn about my diet and all 😆

[south moat]

Ah, fair

[inner finch]

Grole cheese

[glass pendant]

does the #🎥┃video-shoutout channel allow for posting vids made by other people?

[main frigate]

!!!!!!

sign me up if some here.

[main frigate]

...What about cheese beef burger?

Classic American food 👀

[main frigate]

@primal abyss

[simple bison]

Yes, as long as they're LE related

[primal abyss]

Traditionally, there doesn't seem to be any issues in doing so

I blame someone for getting me soundtracked working to Guilty Gear content...thanks for the ping!

[young night]

u know what i wish we had, a little helper minion that would go pick up gold/weaver amber/glyphs/runes, id happily buy that convenience

[primal abyss]

You can drop such ideas in #suggestions or #feedback

[silk compass]

POE1 Chinese version

[young night]

well i pitch it here first in case theres already something like that and im just too newb lol

[young night]

i mean d4 has it too

[simple bison]

There is not. Currently all mtx are cosmetic

[silk compass]

yes, but have this in poe chinese version too xdx

[young night]

you think its a reasonable suggestion i can ask for in the suggestion channel?

[simple bison]

I don't see why not. It'll likely not happen since it'd be viewed as p2w though

[young night]

yeah its def a fine line grey area sort of thing

[silk compass]

You could do the same as in Hero Siege: make the pets pick up currency and provide one for free.

[young night]

do all classes have pets?

[silk compass]

in hero siege?

[simple bison]

No

[young night]

tbh i dont really see it as a p2w but thats just my opinion

[stable forum]

I know Mike has stated repeatedly that if they enabled this action for cosmetic pets, they would have to give everyone a free pet so that everyone has this functionality.

[simple bison]

Well, pets would be cosmetics. So yes anyone can equip a pet. If you meant minions/companions then no

[young night]

not really doing something that a person who doesnt buy it cant do

im just thinking up a way for the devs to make some dev monies that would make my gameplay more convenient aswell lol

[stable forum]

I don't know how much money it would make them since they would have to give everyone a pet for free

[young night]

i dont believe they should tbh

[silk compass]

This would be an incentive for people to want to buy other pets.

[simple bison]

I think they should. And I'm almost certain they would

They'd get insane backlash otherwise

Like way worse than the expansion got

[stable forum]

again, Mike is asked this A LOT on his friday dev streams and the answer is always the same - they will give everyone a pet

[silk compass]

I don’t see any reason for people to complain if they got a free pet.

[young night]

make it a limited time free pet?

[stable forum]

no, they would complain about NOT getting a free pet

[simple bison]

Yeah if everyone got a free one nobody would complain

but if you had to buy one people absolutely would

[young night]

yeah but thats more work the devs gotta do for free

[simple bison]

Nah, you'd have to get one by default basically

[simple bison]

yup

I'm not saying they should even implement it in the first place

imo they shouldn't

I don't want auto pickup personally

[young night]

tbh im not in favor of getting something in return for nothing

[silk compass]

idc about auto pickup

[astral vortex]

so you dont like free stuff or am i not understanding correctly

[young night]

something thats useful to me i believe should be compensated

[silk compass]

From what I understand, he just said that it doesn’t make sense to work for free

[young night]

its not sustainable

you think keeping servers open and devs working doesnt cost money?

a freebie in my mind would be like an anniversary/irl seasonal gift

[glass pendant]

Just making sure, you know for "proper credit" purposes or impersonation or whatever

[simple bison]

Well yeah don't pretend you made the video if you didn't lol

[glass pendant]

yeah caught me off guard when I saw someone else post rax 😭

[willow sentinel]

They were trying to post it in #feedback or #suggestions but failed

[glass pendant]

Ohhh lol

[simple bison]

Credit is given through the video itself, it'll presumably be on the creators channel right

[willow sentinel]

So thought it would be good to post it there

[glass pendant]

Yeah I'm not saying that's the person's intent or anything I just never saw someone posting someone else's vid and it got me thinking

[main frigate]

These famous poe youtuber will not share their videos here too

Because they're famous enough, someone will do this job

[void hatch]

Either make the game f2p and charge for expansions, or charge for the game and (good) cosmetics only. Charging for the game, cosmetics, AND expansions makes no sense for a game like LE. They're no Blizzard and the game is not that good.

[young night]

not setting the bar too high with blizzard are ya?

have you seen d4? lol

[inner finch]

Do consider the the fact LE's initial cost isn't 70 dollars

And if you compere to something like PoE, you get things like stash space cost involved

Someone has suggested having stuff like free weekends and more ways to get people from the outside - which I do agree with

But I also think LE's MTX store needs nothing short of a complete redesign

[young night]

sadly ive never been a fan of buying cosmetics in games

i need utility or something

d4's cosmetics were the same

[main frigate]

The last purchase I done on cosmetics in a game is I get VIP in a MMO so an cartoon owl follow me, let my pets can be heal immediately + open my stash on everywhere, plus I can fly in any maps and get VIP exclusive pets

That's a thing in 12 years ago

pets in that MMO = companion in le

[simple bison]

No

Companions are a minion type

pets are a cosmetic

[main frigate]

That's a classic p2w mode in current frame

[simple bison]

ah gotcha

[main frigate]

The feature I want the most in that time is VIP exclusive pets and wings
Pets help me to become stronger, wings let me looks more cool and I can fly to anywhere (quick movement)

[inner finch]

If you have a time machine, use it to go back to the LE kickstarter campaign

[main frigate]

poe 2 have similar mtx design on wings.

[main frigate]

I wish

[south moat]

Yeah that would be pay to win and isn't going to happen

[ruby flume]

Sooner or later it will happen🤣

[south moat]

Hopefully not

[main frigate]

I learnt something from Mike. Never adopt any stances, just tell the truth. 🫡

[obsidian ore]

They need to put the game on sale from time to time, come steam winter/summer/autumn/spring sale the game is never on sale and I don't understand how's that possible

[honest belfry]

It's not on sale often, but I will say it's on sale at least twice a year. Though the "when" does change.

[south moat]

hey wick

[obsidian ore]

I feel that is a bit of a missed opportunity not taking advantage of big seasonal sales from steam, people are super prone to spend money at those periods

[willow sentinel]

It was on sale during steam summer sale and in may and in january just this year

[obsidian ore]

That's not frequent or cheap enough in my view

[willow sentinel]

But thats not what you stated earlier, no ?

the game is never on sale and I don't understand how's that possible

Because you have a fair point, dont need to hyperbole everything

[honest belfry]

No I feel that. The issue is, the game is only $35usd. Putting it on sale every time Steam did a sale, it would make things really difficult for us. I won't speak to the decisions the team makes regarding this as I am not privy to that information, but I will say, we do go on sale when it's feasable

[obsidian ore]

Oh yeah I get you, and I imagine that only a small percentage of new players buy any MTX and maybe a lower entry might not result in more revenue after all

[primal abyss]

How did I miss this? I do can't really eat beef. Bad for my body so I have substitutes when it comes to burgers...like tonight I'll be eating Black Bean Burgers~

[young night]

black bean burgers are pretty good

[honest belfry]

👀 Never had one. Gonna need a recipe, my man.

[main frigate]

Why beef bad for your body and what black bean burger is?

[primal abyss]

Say less.

[primal abyss]

Red meat and my body doesn't work right. Pretty much my body doesn't like what is in most red meat and raises things like cholesterol very rapidly and quickly.

Black bean burgers are basically using actual black beans, seasoning and other veggie focused items to create a patty

So instead of ground beef, you use black beans

[young night]

u make your own? or buy the patties?

[main frigate]

Your principle on your health is out of my box a lot lot lot lot lot.

Just extreme healthy on the level of unexpecting

First time to hear black bean can replace beef...

[primal abyss]

Make our own~

[young night]

wicked

[primal abyss]

It doesn't taste the same, that I will say but yes I'm a little on the healthier side and what not just so I can enjoy my sweeets every so often 😆

[reef dock]

Could do mushrooms too

Some taste almost beefy

[primal abyss]

Absolutely could! Cooking can be fun when you get creative enough

[young night]

the only thing i found i couldnt sub well was soy into my diet

guess my body doesnt process it well 🙁

[reef dock]

rip the soy sauce dream

[main frigate]

which food can be your sweets?

[reef dock]

and tofu

[main frigate]

I guess different fruits

I can't 100% decide what can I eat everyday so I never can do this level of healthy diet

[severe socket]

That feel when nothing to contribute to the discussion. 😔

[coarse swallow]

Personally I'm a big fan of edamame - reasonably tasty, and extremely efficient for protein vs. calories.

Just watch the salt intake, haha.

[main frigate]

I like snow peas only if we talk about peas

Stir-fried snow peas with garlic is yummy

[silk wolf]

Its best to eat chicken and fish anyway. Red Meat is not good for health or heart health.

And* not or

[silk wolf]

Holy! Never heard about those. I am def gonna try them. Sound very yummy

[south moat]

Technically eating in a certain way is a diet

[silk wolf]

Probably. But then eating in general is a diet.

But diet could mean something else in english that is am not used to.

[simple bison]

What you eat is your diet, no matter what it is tbf

If you eat healthy you have a healthy diet. Same goes for eating unhealthy and having an unhealthy diet

[silk wolf]

Yeah. My bad tbh. I dont think we use it like that so much where i live.

So I was wrong, sorry.

[simple bison]

No you're totally fine lol. It wasn't meant as a gotcha

[silk wolf]

Did not take it as one either.

But for anyone trying to be healthier, read up on the Dash-diet.

Take care of ur body and heart, before it is too late.

[calm jay]

Because usually when it's too late, it's too late and there's no takesy-backsies.

Take it from a guy who walked off a dislocated knee for nearly 20 years and is now getting ultrasounds on it because it clicks and aches all of a sudden now.

[silk wolf]

Yep.

[main frigate]

Nothing is too late because I have nothing :)

[tawny eagle]

Q) Hello everyone. I played LE upon release, and it was a good experience but I stopped playing because the game was too easy -- and it became boring. I was mindlessly progressing thru the story, and it felt like a chrone until I reach endgame.

• Has anything changed in taht regard?
• What is the end-game loop loop like?

[honest belfry]

We have added several new mechanics to the Endgame and campaign since 1.0. Rift Beasts are the most recent and are available in both Monoliths and in the campaign.
The Weaver Faction is available as soon as you complete your first Cemetery in Monolith whic will unlock multiple new mechanics.

As for making the game harder, try putting on the Veteran's boots. They are available in the crystal cave when you start a new character.

[severe socket]

I dare you to add FP on it.

[outer lily]

I'd love to use them if their base MS weren't so low, especially since it has no FP to add MS

[main frigate]

Auto delete in feedback and suggestion help a lot on defending spams, maybe another channels can follow that

Then no message can come from players here anymore

[smoky pier]

Much quieter discord if we delete all messages when they appear.

We could just lurk

[glass pendant]

let's auto delete all messages that don't contain the word "falconer"

[gloomy geyser]

Weaver idols that drop with just 1 of the 2 options in weaver form, is there any way to turn the second option from normal to weaver?

[formal dock]

or do i HAVE to do the camp

[main frigate]

It's too easy. "le" should be the key word

It's a le server, but prohibit to mention le!

Unless you type last epoch :)

[willow sentinel]

You can reroll the idol

But its a complete random reroll

[severe socket]

That moment when you feel like you're playing a gacha game rather than an ARPG.

LE idols = gacha gear essentially. Artifacts, relics, echoes, you name it. Layers upon layers of RNG that can only be beaten by more RNG.

[north heath]

Thats every arpg

Not gacha lol

[torn shore]

Dude you realize arpgs basically had this system since forever right

Like way before gacha ever even considered it lmfao

I'm all for shitting on a game for it's flaws and a lot of arpgs have since added deterministic features to minimize rng bs on some stuff but what you said is just untrue lol

[little lagoon]

Gacha refers specifically to the act of “pulling” things from a slot machine of differing rarities, such as characters

Based off physical gachapon machines

RNG as a whole is not gacha

[steep river]

Yeah and typically those pulls you can purchase extra of using real money. LE doesn't have any pay to win stuff like that.

[little lagoon]

Mm

[calm jay]

This basically implies that ARPG looting as an entire mechanism is gacha(-adjacent) which I'm not necessarily going to fight, but LE is not doing anything nearly outlandish enough to not just be cast in with the same sort of mechanics.

Anyone one rune off a runeword in Diablo 2 probably feels the pain

I would call it far closer to gacha if you had a limited currency to buy idols with that was tied to a weekly limit or something, one of the most defining points of all gachas I've played is a currency to buy from the gacha that is basically limited in three stages;

1. New players get a surge of it to 'get them in' to the game
2. A campaign, or something adjacent to that, awards a 'workable amount' that will sustain a handful of purchases;
3. Then you get a completely disparate drip-feed of it that will get you like a gacha purchase per month, and whatever additions the campaign or placeholder gets, which will be a modestly-better drip-feed.

[little lagoon]

Unless you play Limbus Company, in which case you just gets lots of currency for playing the game

[calm jay]

I usually find this is the espousal of people who have joined late, who will then catch up to the wall within a month or so, although I'm also happy to accept that there's a gacha not backed by soulless shareholding out there somewhere

On the other hand, I've only played gachas backed by awful intention, so I can't exactly call my sample size varied

[little lagoon]

I have been playing since it released

You also don’t need any of the gacha elements to progress

[calm jay]

Well hot damn. That actually sounds good.

Most gachas will absolutely nacker you for trying to get away with using the starter units.

Or the ones I played did, anyhow

[little lagoon]

The starter units can beat the entire game yeah

With difficulty, though

I still regularly use starter units because their support passives suit my team

So they’re not bad at all, just simple, and as time has gone on new characters have gotten less simple

Just so they can make it more interesting

[calm jay]

That's the typical design arc. They get more complicated as time goes on. Usually, feature creep includes power creep, but not always. The ones I played got powercrept really, really badly though

[little lagoon]

Limbus has definitely been powercrept but it’s purely a story-first game so I don’t think it ends up being an issue

Limbus Company is very much about its story before anything

Keep in mind that if you are not interested in Limbus for its story and art, you will not like Limbus, so

[scenic badge]

has shield throw build gotten any love hte last few months?

[willow sentinel]

Got a very nice Primo Unique

[elder barn]

Got a dedicated unique that can create a pretty good build

[autumn briar]

Mistia42 just released a video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bXEc7Ey2YY has an older paladin one too but not sure if that's still valid

[gloomy geyser]

Does the Obscuting and Focusing Lens of Time combo still works? A long time ago that was used to prevent profecies to be outside random mobs in monoliths

[south moat]

Wait, which unique?

[willow sentinel]

Nest

It gives 60% more Flat Dmg from your idols

[south moat]

Ah
right, that
I've been meaning to do shield throw at some point but you know how it is

[pastel summit]

But that would require me to use boring idols instead of those that have flashy effects!

[pastel path]

https://streamable.com/93d93t

ST Grunt Gaming

[south moat]

Maybe I'll finally do it next season

[pastel path]

See what S4 brings

Sadly no skill sigil

[inner finch]

copium mask on, maybe some fresh innovative mechanic that would be really cool

[pastel path]

Hopefully. It might not be the season for me. Light teaser now points toward rogue rework/change.. not my kinda thing. Will have to see what new mechanic will be introduced

[outer void]

This is my first season of LE. Just wanted to say that I'm having a blast! I'm playing Judgement Pally. Currently around 250 Corruption and 5 harbingers taken down.

[tropic cove]

judgment is fun

[sour idol]

^, Facts. It's nice to just have the aura stay on me and heal. Paladin is amazing

[dark holly]

Finally got my build to 1k:

Well, can't post screens, you'll just have to take my word for it for now.

[willow sentinel]

What build is that?

[regal finch]

classes and builds vary greatly in strength while leveling. anything throwing (but not spell or ranged) and minion-oriented feels super easy. Sentinel feels extra easy too, especially Paladin. non-minion Primalist - melee or spell - is harder. dunno if the base game is harder, but the optional content like imprisoned mages could be really tough.

but, uh, yeah. if you're looking for having fights, brawls on every step of the way - you won't be getting that. i'd appreciate this sort of game too. the closest i've played so far was V Rising.

[pastel summit]

I like the concept of shaman but he feels shorted out when it comes time to deal out damage

[regal finch]

i haven't gotten far with any of my primalists yet, but it feels like the class wants me to just use whatever good items i get and adapt my skills to them. except that the scaling on everything but minions is low, abilities are expensive and respeccing takes away even more power before letting me put it back into something else. ok, earthquake specced into repeated melee hits is great, but that's it so far.

[severe socket]

@little lagoon @calm jay I was just relaying my own experience with trying to obtain gear in those games. Which, to me, feels very similar to getting idols in LE. Layers upon layers of RNG on every piece. The actual gacha aspect was never implied. Sorry if my wording threw you off. And yes, I know it's been in the genre since forever. Doesn't make it any better, tbh. 🙂 Some pieces take like WAY too much time to get, and upgrading them may as well brick said pieces (looking at you, LP "slamming"); this very same thing happens in those games as well like disturbingly often.

[little lagoon]

Okay

Word it better IG

I do not have my shrug emotes in this server sadly

[pastel summit]

Yea, they don't get too much stats from their passive tree, just complementary effects.

[willow sentinel]

I will like the Shaman after its 6th rework

We are only at 2 rn

[pastel summit]

I can think of a few other classes that are sitting in the waiting lounge with him... stares at birbless rogues

[willow sentinel]

Rogue.... Rogue.... Doesn't ring a bell
Maybe I don't have that base class in my version of the game

Pretty sure I only have Primalist and Sentinel
Maybe Rogue is coming with the Xpac

[pastel summit]

There is no rogue, only the birb maid

[pastel path]

Future Strike was benched to pluto and now it is not even a thing

[torn shore]

I'm not gonna deny that. LE has the most casual/easy method of crafting but also the most limiting way of crafting

Idols are gambling tm you legit just pray for them at the end of the day, tho they're more of bumps in upgrades rather than major ones

But LP/exalt bases yeah no those are legit just pure gambling

Namely with havocs and ascension etc

Forge potential also is LE's way of cucking you of your gear and the fact weaver copies the fp as well is just shit tbh

So you can't even make deterministic goals with the craft of seeing like a good t7 base with only one good t7 affix, but say another affix would also be good

And you can't use weaver tree for it

And then to top it all of, DLC is presumably gonna add new things that will cost money lmfao

[severe socket]

See what I mean?

[vagrant lodge]

If i take Stay of Execution to make Puncture a channeled skill (charged), will buffs to damage while channeling work on it?

[severe socket]

Not sure, tbh. It's not channeled per exact wording, so unlikely. But there's always a way to check it.

[vagrant lodge]

it becomes a channeled skill

[severe socket]

🤨

TIL, I guess 🤔

Although I'm not entirely sure if it's worth it.

The deeper you're into endgame, the more hazardous it becomes to stay in place.

[vagrant lodge]

true

[willow sentinel]

The thing is you release the projectile and you are not channeling anymore

[severe socket]

Charge-up skills should justify themselves by dealing a metric crapton of damage in exchange for the risk. Puncture doesn't really give that feel to me.

And the rate plummets increasingly as corruption increases, all the way into negatives past some point.

[regal finch]

but doesn't it snapshot? i got an impression everything snapshots.

[willow sentinel]

When does it snapshot ? When you are no longer channeling ?

I dont have the answer

[regal finch]

if the point is to benefit from a channeled damage bonus, then i'd expect it to work with Puncture's charge-up node.

oh nvm, there's now a kinda-answer in #🔪┃rogue

[simple bison]

All skills do snapshot correct

I don't know when channeled puncture would though

It could either snapshot at the start of the channel or at the end. If it snapshots at the start I don't think channeled stats would work. But if it snapshots at the end I'd think they would.

[dark holly]

I’m running a Lightning MultiSmite build

[regal finch]

how often do you people break crates and such? i just got a unique from a crate and in some monolith maps there are stacked crates that explode into tons of glyphs.

[willow sentinel]

Spell Crit ?

[dark holly]

Yeah, that's among the target stats.

You can get 19% base crit on smite, so you only need ~500 additional crit, much of which you can get through skills

[willow sentinel]

Nice

I wanted to know if you were doing that or Electrify

Devotion + Mana Stacking I guess

Mad Ladle ?

[dark holly]

Devotion, mana, Culnivar's Claim

Palarus in the offhand

[willow sentinel]

Oh

Interesting

I went Ladle + Aurelis myself

Mind sharing your planner in #🔱┃sentinel ?

[dark holly]

That's probably what I'd run for the Electrify variant

Yeah, sure. Give me about 30. I need to update it for the changes I've made. I was originally running Aurelis+Palarus.

[willow sentinel]

You can import your character

Or share your "profile"

So you dont have to change stuff directly

[dark holly]

Oh, true.

[willow sentinel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/

[calm jay]

I can definitely see how minmaxing rolls without any guarantees can get grating, hopefully I didn't sound too confrontational. It's just the first time I saw that comparison, although honestly it's not that far off (resource in > random result out > a few results are any good, most are a wash)

I'm also doing a wand/Palarus paladin to take to 100 for my first 100 O: I'm not sure if lightning smite is actually helping me though lol, I just like calling down the thunder.

[south moat]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[primal abyss]

Morning Travelers 🫡

[calm jay]

Good morning!

[primal abyss]

Indeed it is, indeed it is

[south moat]

Good mornin

[loud crystal]

It is silly how much stronger the frogs are then the squirrels, due to squirrels being bugged I equipped the frog helmet, without even respeccing anything my clearspeed just went up by 2x pretty much

[primal abyss]

Frogs are quite fun

[loud crystal]

But I want squirrels, not stinky frogs

[willow sentinel]

Just unspecc Permanent bond

[primal abyss]

If you've ran into any issues running Squirrels while playing, help us out and submit a bug report in-game. Make sure you don't have mastery points in things that might hinder your summons (As Vlad pointed out)

[loud crystal]

Is that point meant to hinder the summons? o,o

Either way, it feels like the frogs are just so much better, even when I manage to summon the full squirrel army

[willow sentinel]

No but its bugged and cause issues with the numbers of Wolves/Squirrels you are getting

[primal abyss]

Apologizes for confusion hahaha and no it doesn't 'hinder' in the sense you think. Some nodes allow you to only have 1 companion while the wolf node, perm bond might be changing your current build because yeeah. Why I request that you submit a ticket if you did run into this issue. The more info we get, the better

[loud crystal]

Call me the reverse Disney princess then, getting stuck with toads after going in with the hope that the woodland creatures will help me defeat the evil :E

[primal abyss]

Woodland creatures have decided to rise up and fight...fair

[willow sentinel]

Unfortunately, Frogs seems to have better clear no matter how good squirrels are

They are more mobile, jump everywhere, big range with the tongue

[loud crystal]

Semi ranged attacks with aoe hitboxes, yeah the squirrels needs to get handgranades next season

"Acorns"

[willow sentinel]

You get spirit squirrels

[loud crystal]

what does a spirit squirrel do

[willow sentinel]

Solo Duo wolves has more single target though