💬┃general

[light charm]

Morning everyone

[south moat]

Good morning Tardis

[light charm]

hi nub

[keen rock]

man I love my shield throw paladin more than any other build, but at 1000 corruption he gets one shot by primal beasts and a few too many bosses/champs/rares. Trying to figure out a way to make him more tanky is tough.

And then you get boned on slam attempts :/

[willow sentinel]

Throwing Dmg or Spell Dmg ?

[keen rock]

throwing dmg

dmg is fine. he does amazing dmg. just need some more tankiness

[hollow tinsel]

wait what, slamming can crit?

when did they add this

holy shit just got a god slam because of that

[willow sentinel]

When they made the slam not random for 1 affix after t2

[willow sentinel]

👀 #👑┃item-showcase

[steep river]

Added a small chance for a “Critical Success” that can cause the Unique item to take more affixes than its Legendary Potential. This chance scales with the chance for that Unique to drop with higher Legendary Potential.
For example, if you’re using a Calamity with 1 Legendary Potential, the chance for a Critical Success depends on the chance of a Calamity dropping with 2 or more Legendary Potential at level 100.
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-tombs-of-the-erased-patch-notes/75247/2#eternity-cache-adjustments-16

Tunklabs has the chances, use the drop down to select the unique. https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/eternity-cache

[hollow tinsel]

i love gambling

[untold skiff]

is anoyone else find keystone drops pretty low ?

[willow sentinel]

What kind of content are you running ?

[tulip niche]

I had no idea this was a thing

Is that for Temporal Sanctum?

[willow sentinel]

Where else do you slam Uniques items to make them legendary ?

[steep river]

Yeah it's a very low chance

[untold skiff]

empowered around 200ish

they drop but not really often

[night marten]

because you are still in relatively low corruption

[untold skiff]

ah didnt thin it was that low. Another odity is the bonus stability. SOmetimes ill do like half the map and made up the bonus stability but other times I would have done 99.9% of a map and still need like 2 points. Like I find it very inconsistetn

like the map I just did. not even half of the map revealed but bonus stability already complete. Other times you gota search every nook and cranny

[night marten]

bonus stab isnt really worth hunting for

[glass pendant]

Even if it's bossing you're after, you get way more stability by rushing to the objective and getting a large quantity of maps cleared, the bonus stability chance will outperform a full clear

Keep in mind, with every pack you clear in an echo, you lower the density of the echo

At some point hunting in the corners of the map becomes counter productive

[untold skiff]

ye right, i kinda get baited since sometimes it fills so quickly

[glass pendant]

Don't look at the bar at all

Go from objective to objective

[mellow crag]

im making a stat question for my school project can you guys like my comment if you actually going to buy or did buy borderlands 4 ty(im not sponsored by johnathan)-_-

[untold skiff]

lol now ill prob look at it more, na ill try that thanks !

[wise vale]

dead ass anyone happen to have a 2xko code spare

[neon idol]

have a friend that has a newly merged legendary item stuck in the cash in temporal sanctum. Doesn't let him put anything new in and doesn't show him the merged item either. Anyone else seeing this?

[night marten]

havent heard that happening except when you put in items that arent supposed to go together.

but if you rerun the dungeon, the item will stay in the cache (or revert to what they are supposed to be)

[glass pendant]

did they press D

You switch timelines with D to pick your newly slammed legendary back up

[neon idol]

yeah they did switch

it's a primordial unique, so not sure if that's a new bug or smothing

[glass pendant]

hmm

[night marten]

just rerun the dungeon, see whats waiting in the cache

[neon idol]

reran Julra, with the portal charm and it's still the same. It's not lost but it's stuck

[untold heath]

F8 and bug report

[neon idol]

yup done that already

was just wondering if you guys have seen that as well 😄

[night marten]

i've only heard of it once, when the item it was trying to make was impossible to equip

but it fixed when you reran it

the only other thing i can think of doing is resetting the game. sanctum will gold that item/s until you take it out

im trying to find where in discord we trouble shot it, but discords search function is...something

[north heath]

How does the champion imprint (upper left in tree) work with uniques?

[tulip niche]

Uniques can’t have sealed affixes so the main thing it offers it kind of redundant.

[tulip niche]

You’re the second person to ask this and I still have no idea what is being asked for.

[latent jacinth]

I cannot find the last Soul Furnace in The Magma Caverns. Anyone have any ideas? I've fulled cleared the place twice now. The first time, I was missing two, somehow. Now this time, still missing one.

[main frigate]

le have soul furnace?

[night marten]

there has been a lot of reports about this, only having one missing. i think they might be spawning in invisible (there have been some other reports of invis objective enemies). either way, please report it using f8

[latent jacinth]

10-4, will do. Is there any way to fix it? I cannot progress my Monolith because of it. 🙁

[night marten]

not that i know of on main accnt

[steep river]

Please use #📚┃off-topic to talk about other games. And you'd probably be better off asking in a Riot games Discord instead

[night marten]

tho i guess you can just go to empowereds

since you only need one 90 now

[steep river]

It's a game in closed beta, they're asking for an invite to it

[night marten]

and just skip that one part of the quest

[lost elk]

I had missing soul furnace issue and rerunning it ended up spawning them all on the second attempt. Bit of a gamble and that quest is annoying af though, sooo...

[latent jacinth]

Wait, what, did they change something about the end game progression? I might still be doing it the old way. I'm clearing Spirit of Fire now, do I not need to?

[lime meadow]

i went through countless ancient rift collecting bones... but what is the actual purpose of the rift? i am a sorcerer, the exchange items are so beyond my reach (not enough mat) and are they only related to beastmaster class?

[steep river]

Yes you only need to do 1x level 90 now to unlock Empowered. Instead of all 3

[wet loom]

Has there been any workaround for invisible Siege Golems yet?

[wet loom]

They spawn in the same places, so if you can check a video you could run to those spots and hit them using shift-target or aoe skills. They're there, just invis and it's very annoying.

[steep river]

No there's items in there for many classes. But if there's none at all for your build, the Rune of Evolution at the top that can be used for T8 affix and there's grab bags in the lower right.

[latent jacinth]

AH HA! So they were literally just invisible! I stumbled around just casting things/trying to pay attention when a fire jet would hit me. Thanks! Wish I had realized their permenancy sooner--I was agitated and just kind of mindlessly running through, admittedly, anticipating something else entirely.

[hybrid jasper]

hi, how to fix region loading stuck? only VPN use?

[tulip niche]

Ahh

[mellow leaf]

anyone know what the servers are shutting down for?

[median perch]

Feed the turtle for about 15-20 minutes, then a memory leak occurs, and the pc restarts automatically

[honest belfry]

Today Kain is playing an Ignite Vengence Paladin

Come join your LE Community Managers in the CM Cozy Stream! Hang out, ask Questions, and just relax.
https://discord.gg/4F4BPTMT?event=1392556226231140566

[thorn fractal]

"Fixed a memory leak in the Monolith of Fate."
I'm so hoping this will fix it for good! ❤️

[night marten]

ey, rift beast shouldnt block player movement anymore. very nice

[charred flame]

still no wildfire embers fix

big yikes

[kind edge]

Harbinger Needles are now showing up in the loot filter in a line that shows all uniques even if I filter for atleast 1+ LP or 1+ weavers will (they did not show up in this right before this patch)

[slim tartan]

what class/build that can shield party members?

[smoky falcon]

I see the IGBR you submitted. I'll shoot it over to folks to confirm and deal with.

[kind edge]

awesome thanks! not a big deal since the needles can just be removed from that lootfilter line but I thought may be good to bring up anyway

[willow sentinel]

It's working as intended

[night marten]

the problem is its not bugged. its a balance/perception issue https://discordapp.com/channels/368953963267096586/414298693257265155/1415036269255200800

[charred flame]

got it, it's just absolute ass

[night marten]

compared to what people expected, yeah

[cloud root]

Thanks for finally fixing the stash! Works like a charm now, no more lags and switching from legacy to season never was faster 😄

[north heath]

What about bleed gloves? Anyone made anything interesting with them now that the explosion is fixed?

[willow sentinel]

Dread made a bleed vengeance build
I feel like Morditas Reach + Serpent Milk Bleed Manifest Armor can be huge

[tiny bluff]

Is there a workaround for not being able to complete the last quest? Still cant get +1 all even after the patch

[smoky falcon]

Yeah, was our top priority internally for a while. It just wasn't the sort of thing we could move fast on as the risks with changing item container code is just immense. Very frustrating all around. I hope it's much better now.

[smoky falcon]

We’ve got a potential fix for the Talk to Eterra quest completion bug internally. Didn’t make it into patch deadline. It should be in 1.3.4 next wee at latest but is possible it’ll piggyback on an interim hotfix if one is needed.

[tiny bluff]

@smoky falcon Thanks for responding 🙂

[cloud root]

It definitely is. No issues whatsoever. But the test was only brief, we'll see if it lasts 😉

[valid flare]

Is it lagging a me issue? Its lowkey unplayabel on euw

[cloud root]

Probably so. I had the lowest latency ever right now

[night marten]

i have heard there was an internet cable cut in europe somewhere (red sea i think or somethin) so some connections are in a rough spot until its fixed

[valid flare]

I see. Gonna start an offline character until then x)

ty ty

[kind harbor]

too bad Rahyeh is still not fixed

[inner sand]

are devs watching me? i take a break for a week and the moment i play the game for a little bit is the moment an update suddenly pops up... O_O

[jade coral]

gys, why harbringer's needl are correlated as 4LP items in the loot filter? since yesterday that never happens

[steep river]

It just started happening after the update today. Devs are aware of it #💬┃general message

[kind edge]

I think its not just needles but all unique (small) idols, singularity also showed up for me now

[jade coral]

maybe somethhing is broken post patch ty Mini for the fb

[jade coral]

ty!

[modest elbow]

week 2 of reporting that tab priority seems to be bugged

[coarse swallow]

Sorry, forgot at the last moment to show the full build. This is where the build I was streaming currently is: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXOr9XNB

[slow cloud]

Paladin, Level 81

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Paladin (64)

General:

▸ Health: 2,106, Regen: 63.45/s
▸ Mana: 169.3, Regen: 10.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 16/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 6 Dex / 10 Int / 19 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 171% / 93% / 148% / 69% / 109% / 94% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 64%, Threshold: 817
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (112)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,056)
▸ Block Chance: 4%, Mitigation: 25% (324)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 27%

Used skills:

Vengeance / Holy Aura / Healing Hands / Symbols of Hope / Smite

[jade coral]

weaver will items too have the same issue

[modest elbow]

is the EHG team aware that tab priority isn't functioning as intended?

[inner finch]

Fixed a memory leak in the Monolith of Fate.

[steep river]

Please use the F8 key in game to send a bug report to the devs

[inner finch]

So... anyone tested that that suffered mem leaks?

[night marten]

ive seen people saying their issues were fixed

[pearl dove]

I tried doing Orobyss boss yesterday and today. Always have 1-2 seconds lags with the boss every few seconds. Is that a known issue? Until now I did not experience that bad of lags or delays as with this boss.

[jade coral]

yup, already sended

[inner finch]

Lagon now giggles when he’s defeated in the main campaign.

The most important note

[steep river]

Thank you, that's the best way to get the issues looked at

[bleak sail]

Anyone else still get insane lag in their stashes? (legacy) I have a lot of tabs..

I was really excited for the latest fix but alas nothing has changed for me :/

[inner finch]

i can tell you that im noticing growing performance degradation and lag the larger my current seasonal stash gets

[bleak sail]

So unfortunately even though fixes to performance has been added nothing has basically changed :/

[inner finch]

My answer is only true according to before that patch

lemme login for a second

[kind harbor]

well, good job fixing chyreans, that was really annoying, however Rahyeh is still pain in the ass when he is so bugged he casts 2-3 abilities at the same time

[inner finch]

@bleak sail im taking that back. my seasonal stash performance issues are fixed.

[modest elbow]

what issues were you seeing? I'm still having stash issues rn.

[inner finch]

huge freeze when opening and a smaller one scrolling between tabs

[near trench]

descent smite perk still broken?

[night marten]

if it is, report it using f8

[sleek junco]

hey did the entire bone curse skill tree stop working for anyone else?

[night marten]

i have seen some reports of this ingame chat...if you have a bug, report it using f8.

[slim delta]

I was really looking forward to the patch, I thought I'd fix the corrupted form, I'll play normally. But the patch not only didn't fix one of the lich's most delicious passives, but also broke the bone curse, now it can't be made into an aura, the node doesn't work.
Classic, let's wait a bit longer.

[thorn bane]

F

[rigid lynx]

err

i still have issue with game doesnt save my screen resolution upon starting game

where do i report that?

[night marten]

f8 in game, as with all bugs. but i have also heard sometimes nvidia settings are overriding le settings, so, make sure those are set properly as well

[rigid lynx]

in which category do I put for that issue? is it a visual one?

[night marten]

sure

[rigid lynx]

i just checked

i didnt do any setting on nividia driver for LE or any other games

also did intergrity check

[solar frigate]

Is your appearance not saving on logout a known issue? I reported it just in case, but kind of annoying to have to reapply it everytime I log in.

[night marten]

i have heard others bring that up, yes

[pure parrot]

did the patch mess with LP filters somehow? A harbinger needle is being filtered as if it has 3LP, as is a weaver's will item

[violet jetty]

I noticed since the patch, I've been feeling melancholic.
I managed to fix it with a Whisky.
🥃 😇

[night marten]

it did. they are aware of it

[raw spindle]

Damn I'm on vacation right now but the first thing I will be doing when I'm back at home is playing LE

[austere turtle]

Weren't stash issues supposed to be fixed now? I still get major stutters, game freezing for a few seconds.

[slim tartan]

anyone willing to hlp me in temp sanctum t4?

[night marten]

they did fix some, yes. sometimes multiple causes for the same issue and you dont know problem 2 exists until problem 1 is fixed. if you are still getting bugs, keep reporting them

[night marten]

#👥┃lfg

[north heath]

Whats a reasonable corruption to start dumping favor for red rings? At 600 now and have dropped about 200k on them

[night marten]

doesnt matter. prophs have nothing to do with corruption for variety of items

only lp is slightly changed

[north heath]

Oh i did not realize this

Not that the corruption usually matters, i finish all the prophecies in 3 echoes cause they are all boss/nem/mage

[night marten]

like you still want as high corr as you can do comfortably for more favor gains for more prophs

[north heath]

Yeah

[steep river]

To add onto what Eagles was saying, Item Faction Favor is tied to XP, even at level 100, and increasing Corruption increases XP. There's no cap, but there are diminishing returns on XP / Favor gain after 1,000 Corruption. If you'd like to get an idea of the scaling, play around with https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/monolith-scaling

[native fiber]

The Forge Master definitely looks better now than I last looked at them last year, but how do they compare to Void Knight?
Specifically is it worth reaching the end of the tree for use of a two hander and also a shield?

[night marten]

a lot of people dont like using forgemasters might cuz of the dmg nerf you get

but its very tanky

but people generally just want fast over tanky

[native fiber]

I am fine with tanky due to poor reaction time, but I was also kinda looking at it for another minion build (as i am playing a Druid with a Bear on the side as my other character)

[night marten]

well those dmg nerfs also apply to minions as well. but i was using forged weapons just fine with FMM at 600 corr comfortably

not sure what you exact build would be

but if you are fine with a little slower, its well worth the defence a shield gives

[spring panther]

I always just kinda wanted the forged weapons to be bigger than they are

[native fiber]

The size/shape scaling/changing with the player's weapon would indeed be cool (prolly a PITA to implement though)

[native fiber]

I generally go for builds based on feel, but even with the new (to me) change to allow complete respecing (specifically the Mastery) I would still hate to get several hours into a playstyle to see it suddenly be unable to keep up with enemies

[vestal mica]

Whats the most Mobile class? I assume its the Rogue? I wanna try something out that move smore than just walking between attacks

[astral sky]

if you have a rule hiding low weaver will items, disable it. it's hiding every unique i test whether it has weaver's will or not. ugh

[buoyant turret]

yeah aerial assault has you flying around everywhere, probably rogue

[night marten]

Rogue is very fast

[stone badge]

Anyone know if I am able to summon wolves up to my companion limit and I also take a different companion if I can summon the 1 different one and then have wolves up to my limit?

[vestal mica]

One of my favourite ARPG Experiances was the Diablo 3 Monk. Zipping all around ^^ I'll give the Rogue a go, thanks

[night marten]

I think this was fixed in the noted today #news

[night marten]

Thats a fine #1210282176680169562

[stone badge]

Saw that, wasn't sure if it was completely resolved or not.

[night marten]

Only one way to find out 🙃

[native fiber]

Would more clarity on how Conversion nodes in the Sentinel's skills also belong there? (had to look up like 8 other nodes while build planning and still don't have clear answers)

[tulip niche]

What's everyones take on the best all-around build this season so far?

[native fiber]

I don't know how it can't be a Primalist Build due to all the support they get from things this season

[tulip niche]

I do love my frogs ngl

VK and Paladin are great classes too though

[native fiber]

VK?

[buoyant turret]

void knight

[keen rock]

my favorite build is the shield throw paladin. playing the one off maxroll, but I need to figure out a way to squeeze out some more tankiness. at 1,000 corruption I destroy 99% of stuff, but rift beasts and some bosses can be brutal.

Should I just lower corruption? That feels like a wimp out. But what can I do to get more tanky?

[native fiber]

Do you want to stay Paladin?
As AFAIK Forge Master would give better stuff for Shield Throw as well as increase tankiness (not 100% sure on that last part though)

[keen rock]

yeah probably. the build probably depends on that

[native fiber]

Dunno if it will help, but dodging is how I handle Rift Beasts as some of their attacks seem significantly stronger than I am supposed to be able to tank and have clear windup

[keen rock]

You mean dodging them yourself? Yeah, I can beat them. its just a lot of effort if you wanted to grind them. 🙂

does frailty really do anything? I have 36% frailty on hit on my gloves, but maybe that's a waste

[night marten]

Prolly more #1210281911872786482 but ya. Anything you want to tell the devs go there

[keen rock]

well I just crafted a new helmet. maybe that will help. I'll link it in #👑┃item-showcase

[tulip niche]

Generally you should stick to as high a corruption as you can clear quickly and reliably. If you need to pull it back just for now that is perfectly fine.

[violet jetty]

@night marten May wanna keep an eye on game chat dude.

[tulip niche]

Eagles is just a Discord Mod no?

[night marten]

I do both

But i am not on pc rn

[tulip niche]

Ah, fair enough.

[violet jetty]

k

[night marten]

And even if i was. I wouldnt necessarliy be in the right chat room

If things are getting too spicy, dm SS to @grand geyser

And we will handle it

[worldly moth]

Took me all morning to find the gear I need with 0 potential and the stupid nemesis ruined all of them

[native fiber]

IMO its barely useful as its a maximum of like 95 damage reduction that I think would be better spent on Shred

[steep river]

If they're not boss only items, Imprint them in Weaver tree. 1x Legendary affix would be like a LP 1 item

[worldly moth]

they were all aberroth item

items*

[keen rock]

yeah it sounds like it should be massive, 18% less dmg

[worldly moth]

Plus I was getting a glitch where I kept dying as soon as I respawned

[native fiber]

IMO a 5% per stack to a maximum of 20% would be better, but I dunno how that would balance with everything else
if there was just a cap on enemies of 80% reduced damage it could work out though AFAIK

[mint pond]

BUG: Acolyte / Warlock - Bonecurse skilltree is not working at all. Skill is not getting anything applied from the tree; skill area wont change, manacost wont change, skill wont apply killthreshold or additional curses like mark for death

[honest belfry]

make sure to send in a bug report (F8) so the team can get working on it

[green ore]

Make sure you congratulate your entire art/design team, they managed to pull off a colourful palette without making it childish. They're true artists all of them. EHG has a design goldmine.

Also, hi Wick! Long time no see 😛

[honest belfry]

I will pass this along. Thank you! and hello!

[astral sky]

yes join us in submitting the bone curse bug report. we were discussing it in #acolyte

[mint pond]

I bet you it's gonna be one of 'em bugs that will have birthdays 😄

[north heath]

Ive wondered how this works. How many active global chats are active at a time? Or is it per server?

[wise vortex]

what is the strongest reflect build?

[lusty quarry]

is there any theory crafting resources? i need to know what is better between increase spell/attack damage , +1 melee and primary stats

[night marten]

its per language afaik. i do not know how many are possible in total/per language. as one fills up, another one is opened. i assume it tried to always fill room1..and then goes to next room, and so on

some EHG people can get the true global chat. i do not have that capability

[torn holly]

tfw stash is still laggy as hell

[minor current]

just don't pick up any loot so you never need to access the stash 😉

[night marten]

if you are still getting bugs...keep reporting them.

[astral sky]

I haven't used it but I've heard good things about the last epoch planner from the PoB guy

in general you want flat damage, "more" damage (multiplicative%), crit if you're a crit build -- all more than "increased" (additive%) damage

[torn holly]

outside of making a spreadsheet with the dmg calculations yourself its not very easy tbh

[night marten]

outside of the build planner sites, and the path of epoch (i think thats what its called) there isnt much. you could just make an excel spredsheet tho. its just math

[minor current]

I think someone was working on a path of building for Last Epoch. But last I saw it was still a WIP

[lusty quarry]

or maybe someone works on a simulationcraft like software 👀

[minor current]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1mxbfxy/comment/nb5mw62/?context=3

[night marten]

fast hotfix today

[minor whale]

The Bones are Cured

[smoky falcon]

The Bone Curse issue was simply a reference in the shared file that manages abilities getting overwritten by something else, fix was quick and safe to just re-add the reference luckily. We already had the other fix prepped it just happened to miss the deadline for 1.3.3 patch so got lumped in with this.

[night marten]

may all your bug fixes be this easy

[honest aurora]

When ever i launch the game it doesn't remember I want full screen borderless. Always diverts back to full screen. This also happens to my friends as well. Any way to fix this?

[smoky falcon]

No, is a bug on our side. We recently fixed an issue that changing the monitor the game was in would cause some wonky side effects. In fixing that it's now overzealous and always wants the client to match the aspect ratio of the monitor when you enter character select when in windowed mode.

It's in the queue to be looked at.

[honest aurora]

Thank you. Not that it's a game breaking bug but very annoying when you alt tab. Thanks for the quick response

[pastel summit]

Bug fixing? Hard? It's just a skraal hive, guys, can't be too difficult.

[tender marsh]

Looking through over 500k words of code is a long process to find what messed up

let people do their job in peace

[pastel summit]

Skraal don't like being stabbed, that fixes them most of the time

[night marten]

please do not tag EHG members #rules 10

[keen rock]

I was replying to chat but okie dokie

[tender marsh]

I want a cosmetic for earthquake that makes "aftershocks" turn into wolf heads popping out of the ground and biting

[keen rock]

we need like 10x more cosmetics, and the ability to use existing gear in the tmog slots. so many kick ass weapons and armor that nobody gets to look at 🙁

[willow maple]

yoyo is the chapter 10 last quest glitched

i did it twice and its still saying speak wit Etera

[inner sand]

Lagon now giggles when he's defeated in the main campaign.
weird flex, but OK. lmao

[night marten]

did you get the latest hotfix?

[willow maple]

ye

[night marten]

so you are on 1.3.3.1?

[willow maple]

i updated like an hour ago

so i assume

[night marten]

aight

did you have to do the fight over or just go in and talk to her?

[willow maple]

it makes me fight over

im on third time fingers crossed lol

[night marten]

weird

well if its not giving it to ya, the keep bug reporting it

the 1.3.3.1 fix was supposed to fix that one

[willow maple]

it just worked

on the third try

thats wild lol

[night marten]

lul

[willow maple]

ty boss

[night marten]

i did nothing but i will take it

[keen rock]

a hotfix just went live a few minutes ago that fixed that

[night marten]

naw that was the one almost an hr ago

[tulip niche]

I'm not one for bow builds but... Reign of Winter does sound like it could be fun

Makes me think of CoC builds in PoE

[desert barn]

Giggles now lagon when he's defeated in the main campaign.

[inner sand]

boi

stop stalking me! (kidding) 😄

[desert barn]

I was here first

Jk

[torn holly]

what did they hotfix a little bit ago?

[pastel summit]

They accidentally broke bone curse

So the hotfix fixed that

[steep river]

The most recent hotfix:

Fixed a recently introduced bug where node allocations in Bone Curse’s tree had no effect
Fixed issue where the Temple of Eterra quest would fail to complete.
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-hotfix-1-3-3-1-notes/79717

[torn holly]

ahh

glad they fixed bone curse so quick, saw a lot of salt for that earlier, ty for the link

[umbral spruce]

had a bunch of pink textures in the outcast camp earlier

[night marten]

just f8 ingame with the SS it takes

easiest way to tell em

[umbral spruce]

800 hours and just learned about F8

[night marten]

lolol. its literally the best way to tell devs about bugs

esp visual ones...cuz they can literally just look at it

[stray vector]

@night marten 👍🏻

[glass tiger]

Hello, I hope you're doing well. I'm experiencing an issue where affix search functionality doesn't work when searching for items in the auction house using Korean language due to a bug. I've previously reported this issue but haven't received any updates yet. Would it be possible to get information about any planned fixes for this bug? Thank you for your time

[night marten]

There are no bug updates given out to the public for anything really. All you can do is keep reporting it. And do keep reporting it.

I do know that localization does take a bit for them tho, esp for bazaar for some reason.

[glass tiger]

I understand that localization work takes considerable time. Since the bazaar search function stopped working after the recent update, many Korean players have been concerned about this issue. I was simply wondering if the development team is aware of this bug.
I apologize for posting this in the general channel due to my urgency, and thank you for your ongoing support and monitoring.

[night marten]

Nah, you are fine, no need to apologize. We just dont get updates. But always report the stuff that is wrong.

[hidden dragon]

There is something oddly wrong with the materials used on the games characters/armors and in some maps, they have some sort of rather odd looking gloss to them almost plastic like

[green imp]

That feeling when you finally get a red ring only to see both your builds don't use it -_-

[keen bobcat]

Hello

How are you doing?

[slender shadow]

#1260918276699983882 message

reminder that this season is still almost unplayable for many of us

[hollow tinsel]

i wish the little abberoth cutscene thing didn't play every single time you fought him
makes farming for nihilis really annoying

[lyric cargo]

Anyone ever tried imprinting lp4 ring to see if rr with drop with lp

[short sphinx]

pretty sure im now getting freezing issues after not having any before this patch lol

[cunning snow]

is it normal that the game boots me out when i'm in the middle of editing loot filter??

nvm apparently it's a new bug this season or something? great

[slender shadow]

i played a lot in season 2 and i havent been able to play this one due to performance issues, and im prob not the only one. Same PC

its so disappointing, no updates from EHG on game breaking stuff

i mean i like the game enough to be here complaining hoping i can play RIP

[pastel summit]

In my experience with imprinting a lp1 legendary, it doesn't always pass on the lp.

[visual raptor]

is campaign bugged? our party isn't able to progress into chapter 10

two of us got dc

[proud vector]

i just had something weird happen - it keeps telling me Echo Already In Progress

but it never let us in

[cobalt cedar]

Is there a way to toggle off harbinger fights in timelines that you have already defeated them?

[plucky orbit]

yes. when you left click on the quest for it. right under the purple button there is a check box, check that if you want to turn off harbs

i will say tho turning it off will make it so you cant farm items like needles and gear like twisted heart that drop from harbs TH is regen of dragons i think. not sure off the top of my head

[cobalt cedar]

That’s a good point, I just find it annoying when farming blessings to have to fight the Harbys every time too.

[willow sentinel]

Twisted Heart comes from the emperor of corpse

Not his Harbinger

And Good morning travelers

[plucky orbit]

oops your right just checked LEtools im thinking of the wrong item

LETS FREAKING GOOOOO. wife and i just killed abby (normal) for the first time. party play

[simple bone]

yes we did!!!

[past glacier]

gj

[frank oracle]

Does Red Ring of Atlaria drop world wide? 🤔

[willow sentinel]

It's a random drop yes

[tulip niche]

You need a VPN to connect to the states sadly, hate region locking.

[inner finch]

[nova dirge]

Greetings Humans of Planet Earth

[willow sentinel]

🖖

[tulip niche]

Some bold assumptions being made here

[glacial crow]

the red ring exists, trust me. I was desparate too... and almost gave up. but it dropped at some point 😄

[hollow tusk]

why are my unique idols suddenly showing for my "LP>=3" rule?

[dapper wedge]

i got loot filter issues, i have a filter to only show weavers will items above 16 but its now hiding any uniques

going to have to turn it off for now, hope it gets fixed soon pls bois

[waxen sparrow]

How do people gather rings to use for ascendance in cof btw

[dapper wedge]

for rune of ascendance?

just go to gamble vendor and gamble rings?

[undone vine]

I got some troubles with Prophecies : I didnt get what I asked

[shut quiver]

Greetings

How are people doing here? Got over the whole krafton thing?

[tulip niche]

Gamble or highlight rings in your filter

[glass pendant]

welcome to last epoch

[main frigate]

So many bugs spawned since 1.3 was lived, but all of them are fixed already.

Waiting for 1.4.

[median perch]

It's Bug Epoch now

[steel mesa]

Always has been.

[untold heath]

Aaaaand, got kicked for inactivity while fiddling around with loot filter.... again.

[worldly falcon]

Bugs, underwhelming season, season 4 gonna be make or break

[glass pendant]

I completely agree

[steel mesa]

agreed.

[shut quiver]

Huh! Didn't realise things were this bad

[steel mesa]

I quit this season faster than any other. I just couldn't deal with the bugs and yet another underwhelming mechanic.

[glass pendant]

I got myself a good Uber kill time and stopped, that's when my patience ran out

[steel mesa]

I geared up flay and had fun with that and then left to play poe2

[glass pendant]

they're not surface level problems that would bother someone playing casually. If anything it's a great casual game

it's when you dig deeper into the endgame that you start noticing the shortcomings

[steel mesa]

I agree with that

[glass pendant]

personally I was just starved for good bossing so I fired up hollow knight while watching closely where the game heads towards from here

for now I'm all tapped out

[steel mesa]

I'm just tired of their inability to create interesting content

[glass pendant]

all one can do is hope s4 will be pivotal

I love this game too much so I'm sniffing a lot of copium

[steel mesa]

I used to have a lot of love for the game but it's getting a bit hard to love rn

[glass pendant]

it's precisely why I decided to distance.

trying to create space and give some time and see what happens

[worldly falcon]

Add a few more Ubers and a “bossing” skill tree, similar to the woven tree, so we can scale them

[steel mesa]

Been playing since 0.8 and I have almost 2k hours so yea, it's been a main game of mine

[glass pendant]

1200 here, but the bulk has been post s1 so I guess my time is unevenly weighted

[glass pendant]

I want new content too but if you keep building on unsteady foundation I don't see a world where it doesn't crumble

we don't even have a proper character sheet

[steel mesa]

Ever since s1 the game has been too easy so I haven't put as much time into the game as I used to. s2 was pretty fun tho when people were still figuring out optimal ways to use the woven echoes and such.

I really think factions made the gear grind a bit too easy

[glass pendant]

A lot of my "disappointment" balance wise comes from the fact that it seems like the ideal power level lacks any sense of identity. Things having gotten nerfed from s2 to s3 would initially indicate that they realize what was way overturned and brought it all down to an even level

But with s3 broken things replaced broken things

So it's at a point where we're completely clueless as to how strong they want characters to be which bleeds into the itemization

you see that with fp not being enough for the new layer of crafting

[steel mesa]

supposedly 1000+ corruption is supposed to be what a great build is and going way above that isn't intended but so many builds just shatter that

[glass pendant]

even that has become a bad metric now. Builds that are tanky enough for 1k still delete Uber in less than half a minute which is supposedly the unintended thing

So you've literally replaced what was broken in season 2 with simply different things

Back to step one

[steel mesa]

when are they gonna learn to put caps on broken things

Common sense would tell you infinitely scaling mechanics in builds leads to things getting out of control

well, they do put caps on certain skills. but then they go too far and make them useless.

they really have no idea what they're doing regarding balance. there's very little in between for them apparently.

[glass pendant]

I was leveling bear which I swapped out of because of the still horrid minion ai

Before I stopped, not even level 100

I was critting for half a million basically naked

Then I saw Uber vids and bear casually hits for billions

Basically exactly what serpent venom and umbrals did last season

So what changed? Nothing

[steel mesa]

same thing, just different skin

[loud fable]

This is a demented statement. You have decided to ignore basic things about business, the market, and there's no way anyone well-intended would reach that conclusion.

Alright, am being a bit of a drama queen here, but bruh.

S3 was well within expectations. Also, I meant the "make or break" part specifically.

[stark hamlet]

does exalt used for slamming have to have 4 affixes ?

if I have 3 aff + 1 sealed, will it work ?

[worldly falcon]

S3 was literally smaller than other ARPG patches, it added a few weapons and a beast mechanic that was just filler. The only actual addition that matter was 1act, added on to an already 9. if you think that S3 was successful, you're in the minority or havn't played enough other content in the genre. Project Diablo 2 added more in a season and I doubt people here have even heard of that game

[loud fable]

I don't think one way or the other, and largely have no opinions on my own: #📚┃off-topic message

No, not just trying to act smart. Just trying to assess EHG's situation fairly.

[steel mesa]

season 4 will definitely make or break the game though, at least regarding bugs. it's a common sentiment that people are tired of being bug testers for this game that's been in full release for a bit now.

[loud fable]

I skipped S3 entirely because of what you said.

But the season is still pretty much "in line with expectations, given how big it is".

[worldly falcon]

I'm not even including bugs that have been an issue since full release

[loud fable]

And is nowhere near a failure, and S4 isn't make or break.

[loud fable]

Which nobody realistically cares about.

...because most people don't even see them.

[worldly falcon]

Again, most people are playing the game for about 5-7days and stop, the content is lacking and too easy

[loud fable]

LOL

Aite

[steel mesa]

You're right that this season was within expectations. It was expected that most people would drop the game when poe2's update dropped.

[loud fable]

Ultimately, this is because Steam doesn't show that equally important metric "total number of players for a time period", and people think that the peaks are everything. The fact that this wasn't your first thought, shows you didn't even think about the basics. To say that "most people play for 5-7 days" is crazy, when the number of unique players throughout a season is like at least 5-6x that of the peak.

Is it so hard to just stop and think? (yes, yes it is)

Now, am not attacking you. Am attacking your ideas and the way you approached all this.

[worldly falcon]

Honestly, I don't care. The measuring stick is other ARPGs and the game is lacking, pure and simple.

The 'season' was a joke

[steel mesa]

Bro is getting paid by Krafton and EHG

[worldly falcon]

bascially a glorified patch

[loud fable]

Game's doing just fine. I said I'd stop the predictive model because it cuts too much into my motivation before the season even releases, but I'm predicting LE will, at some point, once again, see a big season again. They cemented their spot.

However. It is true that, if the next few patches suckobucko...yea, trouble.

Yes. It was a glorified patch. Still, a lot of people showed up to see it. I'd bet good money that the overall sentiment of those is "hey, not a lot of content, game's still good, we want more LE"

[worldly falcon]

My copium at the moment is that they used the resources for Act10 and neglected endgame so S4 will determine the direction

[acoustic palm]

They also fixed some 5-6 year old bugs, so there's that.

[loud fable]

It was...a patch. Nor good, nor bad. It didn't do anything to meaningfully hurt LE.

[glass pendant]

Didn't we see metrics a little while ago of s3 having the smallest retention of any patch to date?

[loud fable]

Yes, also predicted - quote - "the drop-off will be meteoric".

[glass pendant]

What I'm saying is

[acoustic palm]

I mean, with all due respect, season 3 new end game content was something a private server could do

[loud fable]

Because there's nothing to keep people around BUT it's not the end of the world is what am saying.

[glass pendant]

If the patch ain't to blame for that...

[acoustic palm]

Hopefully 1.4 will have more to do.

[worldly falcon]

No one said its the end, we said S4 will determine whether the end is beginning or not

[steel mesa]

That's the problem though. The consistent problem of bugs bugs bugs and mediocre content is getting old and will end up driving people away.

[glass pendant]

that pretty much sums it up

[acoustic palm]

There are still bugs about skills that do not work properly and we're reported even since the game had another name.

[glass pendant]

It's the direction we're headed rather than the present

[shut quiver]

Not so passive but very aggressive tone, condescending and patronising remarks followed by a "not attacking you" feels kinda... u know

[loud fable]

Don't care. There's mods.

If they make ultra ignorant remarks, I have zero incentive to engage with them.

[acoustic palm]

How it's possible for a skill to not work since 7 years ago.

[loud fable]

They get to write ignorant, blatantly doomer stuff, and you expect me to engage with them in any other way than straightup how it is?

[glass pendant]

For a moment I thought that was directed at me and I'm like damn... What did I say I'm literally chilling lol

[loud fable]

It's public streets, don't litter it with trash.

[worldly falcon]

lmao

[acoustic palm]

I bought a 60 euro pack and I regret it.

[loud fable]

But I agree that our society sees the second evil as the only one - that is to say, you completely ignored that they "started the fight", and because you don't really have any morals, you think it's fine to post stuff like that.

Ergo, weakness.

[shut quiver]

LOL nope

[steel mesa]

Right now you're seeing an example of the delusional and toxic positivity that plagues this community.

[loud fable]

You'll feel 10x better if you practice some intellectual housekeeping. I promise. Don't just accept anything that's written, and challenge it.

I have nothing to be sorry about. Don't like being called out? Don't post ignorant stuff.

[glass pendant]

anyway personally whenever I criticize this game I try my best to be as constructive as possible, it all comes from a place of caring. When you love something you treat it with honesty

Hope it comes across as such

[steel mesa]

It does

[worldly falcon]

I'm fine with it

[blissful spear]

I think that while S3 felt pretty light that doesn't make or break an update. For example, 3.25 was a hailmary league for PoE and people ate it up, while the new league mechanic was pretty light on interaction and I don't remember if there were any big gameplay additions to the endgame. Mainly just a good balance patch with a pretty fun and polished league mechanic.

[loud fable]

Exactly. With honesty. It's OK to be wrong, if you at least put in the minimum amount of effort to your thinking.

[worldly falcon]

I gotta mute this bot, holy

[simple bison]

Guys can we move on please

[paper marten]

is there a paladin gear guide to facetank uberabb in s3? the ones i found are for s2

[loud fable]

Yep! LE has cemented its spot. They'll be fine long-term.

[simple bison]

I think judgement paladin is basically the same as it was in S2 tbh

They did nerf the cleanse and healing a little but you can still pretty much facetank everything afaik

[steel mesa]

A light patch can be okay. S3 was a light patch while also being a bug filled mess again

If a patch is light on content the least you can do is fix bugs and make sure the new stuff that you add isn't broken?

[simple bison]

Honestly I think people overlook how much work the new chapter is vs something like nemesis or endgame systems like that. So while I agree the patch didn't give us as much endgame as S1 or S2 I don't think less time or effort went into it

I'm not defending it or saying this is okay. I'm just saying it's not like they worked half as much this patch.

[main frigate]

My biggest disappointment come from they let champions flooding in game to ruin smooth experience I supposed to get.

[glass pendant]

It's not so much overlooking but rather that no matter how you slice it, the bulk of this season was not something that largely added to the endgame loop with the exception of rifts

And even those were half baked in the sense that the system makes you pick between that and woven echoes

(imo a mistake, I've said this before)

[loud fable]

Now that's a discussion I like! I genuinely believe that them putting any effort towards the campaign was a mistake. They should've just let it be something for later on. Very few people care.

So, same effort, but honestly, misguided. Am I mad at EHG for it? No. But I genuinely hope they just let the campaign sleep for a few patches.

[simple bison]

Plus with the restructure of CT happening in the middle of it. Meaning it started later and needed time to get up to speed again. What consequences this might've had I'll leave for you to decide since I'm in it and can't really comment.

[glass pendant]

Parameters like this is why I believe s4 will be pivotal

[simple bison]

Honestly I agree. But I also think they just want to get the campaign out of the way so they can concentrate 100% on endgame instead of having people nag them about it

[loud fable]

I agree that they should finish the campaign, just not now. So, they should change this internally.

[simple bison]

I personally agree. But I also don't care much for campaigns in arpg's (of which I enjoy LE's the most tbh)

[steel mesa]

All I can say is I saw people in the old CT talk about how they would give EHG tons of feedback on bugs that still exist and never got worked on. Which makes EHG look laughably bad. So I now question how much good the CT actually does if EHG ignores feedback.

[loud fable]

& Cyborg. How did the CT rebuild have a major impact on the development process? Am sure it derailed some smaller plans, but I don't see the angles.

[simple bison]

I can't talk about it sorry

[glass pendant]

I don't think cyborg can answer that

Yeah

[loud fable]

Oh, ok.

[blissful spear]

For the campaign we just gotta find out who the emperor is and kill him dead?

That's what's missing?

[night marten]

emperor, and rahyeh

and likely some sort of 'conclusion' to the orobyss story line

[blissful spear]

I'd expect that through endgame updates, not a campaign one

[glass pendant]

Also keep in mind that regular people here make up less than 0.1% of the launch day playerbase. The problems we encounter, or anyone who's at the level of clearing 100s of ubers per season are drastically different to the problems your average gamer dad will even get close to scratching

[night marten]

you can do both. lol

[glass pendant]

No matter how you see it we are a tiny minority of the playerbase

[loud fable]

It's what I was saying - most people don't even know the bugs even exist.

They just pew-pew.

[night marten]

like the campaign can end with some sort of orobyss thing to really signal the end of the campaign, and have it in the endgame.

[simple bison]

Less than 20% make it to empowered still I'm pretty sure

[glass pendant]

Mike confirmed it ends with orobyss sometime late s2 in a stream

[blissful spear]

Oh, that's what you meant. Sure then, makes sense

[night marten]

its not like EHG doesnt reuse boss fights

lol

the campaign is all about orobyss's story...it has to 'end' with him

[blissful spear]

I still can't believe the dino is not a boss

[night marten]

it...is a boss?

[blissful spear]

-in endgame

(?

[night marten]

do you not count wovene choes as bosses?

[blissful spear]

Wait I might have missed that

My bad

[night marten]

cuz then majasa woven echo wouldnt be a boss either

[shut quiver]

This is a fact that most players in most games just blatantly disregard. The select few who find and join the discord server or get on reddit to make posts about the game, that's a veryyyyyy small minority of any game

[night marten]

and thats def a boss

[glass pendant]

With all due respect I do not count antipode dragon as a boss lol I'm sorry

[loud fable]

Yes, Mike recently confirmed something around that figure, which was "duh lol", but it's nice to have official confirmation. I imagine most people just load into the game, they play a certain build, engage with the seasonal mechanics, and if that's fun, they stick around. They've seen the story before - they don't care.

[main frigate]

I suppose both of le and Poe 2 is boring when I grind endgame for a while.

[night marten]

lul. thats a very weak feeling boss, i agree. a little bit of a letdown.

[blissful spear]

But that's fair too.

[glass pendant]

I still think that they're a great source of feedback

[steel mesa]

They're the ones you should listen to because they're the ones that actually interact with your systems. The casual player is happy with completing campaign then playing regular monoliths for a couple hours.

[glass pendant]

If I made a game and someone in my community killed the superboss 700 times, I'd probably keep a close eye on what they say about the game

[blissful spear]

If you wanted to get data put one of those in-game polls that put singular questions every once in a while on your screen lol

Sorry I wrote that 5 mins ago, had no internet

[shut quiver]

Oh I agree. But still, the actual voice of what gamers face is largely silent OR can only be seen on conventional places like steam reviews page

[night marten]

EHG does listen. they cant just snap to everyone's opinion instantly though. when the season came out, lots were complaining it was too hard...and this morning how many of you complained its too easy?

[main frigate]

Players whose willing to be active in the official server for months or years and provide feedback and suggestions consistently are quite rare indeed

[steel mesa]

I wish they would've kept the added difficulty personally.

[loud fable]

Very nuanced, am afraid. You should listen to those people to know exactly how your content can pan out, and so on, but those people are definitely not the bulk of your playerbase. However, it goes even deeper - if you know your game pulls in a lot of people by how well its content creators do/stick around, then you must adjust the game for them as well, even if it probably would hurt the average player a bit.

[blissful spear]

I heard people say they were randomly getting oneshot, which was due to a common bug.

Which is now fixed, tbf

[glass pendant]

I think this is a layered issue with multiple facets. The game is easy vs some mobs randomly oneshot for 10k+ can be two things that are true at the same time

[steel mesa]

I enjoyed actually being challenged before 1000 corruption

[night marten]

as do i. i didnt think it was too hard. but they cant just rubber ball bounce around all the time. they need to make better decisions, but that takes time that most gamers refuse to give games

[loud fable]

That's when being smart matters. People almost always complain about what's in front of them, and it's your job to dissect it. Feels like so many other companies treat the symptoms, not the source, and it's just because they don't really know how to listen.

[glass pendant]

I mean. Listen and "do exactly as they say" are two separate things, right? I didn't mean craft the game in the visualized image of your sweatiest player. Just maybe keep their quad digit hour playtime in mind as a point of reference

[night marten]

which takes time. and many gamers refuse to give companies that time to react properly. which if you look at the conversation this morning, is part of the case. LE has had 3 updates. 3. thats it. it is still incredibly young in terms of gaming in this genre. but in real life time, its been over a year. so while irl its been a long time...in actual content that EHG can see how the player base reacts, its been a very small time

[steel mesa]

I really think their issues come down to horrible management of resources and their time. It really confuses me how items and interactions that they're hyping up for a new season release broken. And then take a whole season sometimes to fix.

[loud fable]

Precisely. I wrote a piece about feedback like this, and how vital it is for either you to say who you are, or for the devs to take into account your situation.

[blissful spear]

Things like skips do add a lot of wiggle room in the difficulty. Unfortunately, the only way to consistently access them during the campaign is to start doing monoliths as soon as possible. (Or have an alt but that doesn't make the game hard)

[shut quiver]

Thats the thing. One, same complaint coming over and over throughout the years or 10 complaints about the same thing dropped in a day. Which do u think will be addressed first

[night marten]

cuz things break when they build the production live patch sometimes. there have been many cases where a patch they throw out has to be reverted. things happen sometimes in the building. so you cant always blame QA when that happens.

and some things (like stashes) they have to be careful with, cuz if they accidently nuke your stash

thats a bigger issue

[main frigate]

The complaint over and over

[loud fable]

Yes. I literally think of LE as 0.3 instead of 1.3. Not exactly fair and accurate, but I recognize where the game is. Buuuuuuuuut to be honest, am not exactly blaming people for thinking otherwise - they were advertised a released, full-fledged game, that they paid $35 for. So, how many patches/years worth of patience should they have for the game to be on par with, say, PoE1? I don't think that's even fair to ask of EHG as of now, but it's certainly how people feel.

What am saying is, LE launched in a niche where its main competitor has a looooooooooooooooooooooot of content, so people will absolutely judge it in relative terms.

Very tough job ahead.

[shut quiver]

I like how hopeful and optimistic u are about this world and I wont take it away from u

[main frigate]

10 different complaints are more time-consuming to address, people always tend to complete the job in the shortest time

[steel mesa]

Comparing the game to PoE1 isn't fair considering it's the best arpg of this generation. But I think it's fair to expect a full release game to not be a broken buggy mess.

[night marten]

also time management is a possible thing too, yes. this is their first game with only a few years of actual live dev on it. it was always going to be bumpy.

[blissful spear]

They were 10 complaints about the same thing

Lol

[night marten]

broken buggy mess is a tough sell when you can play through the entire game with no game breaking bugs many times over.

[orchid sand]

i think as we get older and start accumulating tens of thsouands of hours in the genre, eventually all the games are gonna start getting harder and harder to enjoy.
at least thats how its been for me

You can only do the same thing for so long ... its an issue with the genre when so much of it is focused on specific game play loops. (lack of story and mini games and other game modes)

[night marten]

but yes comparing ANY game to a 10+year developed game like poe1 is not fair to anyone

[shut quiver]

In their defence, I had to edit that part

[blissful spear]

Oh, didn't see that

[main frigate]

Yes... All games are going harder and harder, which means new players are harder to learn a game before they can get fun. At the same time, games are more expensive and expensive too.

[orchid sand]

no i dont mean difficulty wise.

[night marten]

10 years to get on par with current poe1...since thats how long its been out. and yes thats how people feel but thats the dumbest thing ever.

do you all remember poe1 when it first came out? lol it wasnt this smooth i can tell ya that

[loud fable]

Yes, but the vast majority of people don't have a connection with EHG to afford them multi-year patience, which is totally fair. Everything's easy in hindsight, and EHG is smart, but they definitely should've thought about it. Very happy they delayed S2, but - again - given the above, they definitely should've let the campaign sleep for a few more patches.

Absolutely zero flame, and I'm here for the next 10 years, but while EHG cemented their place, it's still on shaky grounds.

[orchid sand]

de-sync, de-sync, DE-SYNC , disconnected,

[steel mesa]

I'm not talking "game breaking" bugs like being stuck and unable to progress but when you want to mess around with a interaction that you think is really cool and it's consistently broken? Yeah no. It's a bit ridiculous. There's so many things that just don't work in the game.

[loud fable]

It is, but it's how they feel, and you either get people to pay, or your game dies, so, stupid as it is, EHG should and MUST work with this in mind 🤷‍♀️ -- and I'm sure they do.

[blissful spear]

I'd expect less time tbh. EHG is not doing a bad job with building their game up and PoE has deleted like 70% of the historical content.

[night marten]

what are these so many things?

[blissful spear]

And some of the content was shit like maps have weather

[shut quiver]

I have to disagree with the difficulty and expensive argument. I mean, silksong made a point thats too loud anyway

[loud fable]

Absolutely, not to mention that EHG can already see what worked/what didn't, and can outright just "COPY" cough things. The hard part was done by GGG, sorta.

[blissful spear]

Right, PoE had to be a lot more experimental.

[loud fable]

If things keep going like this, but just a tiny bit better, we'll have feature-parity with PoE in no time. Not sure if that's desirable but yea 😄

[blissful spear]

I would say like 5 years, idk about no time lol

[loud fable]

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[steel mesa]

5 years sounds generous at this point.

[loud fable]

Give it max 2-3 years.

[main frigate]

Oh. I see. You mean which one will I select, tested by time and not test by time.

Yes... Test by time still is my answer. The time can prove lots of things...

[loud fable]

If we assume the current cadence stays, I think we'll be in a great spot in 4-5 patches.

[blissful spear]

It is a lower estimate where I'm considering that there's gonna be a lot more successful mechanics than failed ones

[loud fable]

We're in a GOOD ENOUGH spot right now, yea, but it's just nothing to write home about.

[steel mesa]

so far they've been unable to create a unique endgame mechanic imo. it's all different shades of fighting a new rare mob.

[loud fable]

To be fair, given LE's numbers, and how big a danger a good patch for LE is, I think GGG would be stupid not to recognize how big a power LE is, and we'll see them not being so stingy with everything anymore.

[steel mesa]

so feature parity with poe1 sounds very far out

[blissful spear]

Which I think is fair because things like beasts, which tons of people don't love, are so easy to fix up. They didn't design themselves into a hole yet

[loud fable]

In fact, after LE released, they started going massive on QoL. Whether or not that was due to Chris' departure (as some people say), or LE's impact, who knows? But they will have to think about LE, that's clear.

I think the future is the two games copying each other's successes, and it's always gonna be a pingpong between them, 'cause you can't always make a good seasonal mechanic/content.

[night marten]

this is true. however mike did say they have heard the 'need for a not fighting one thing' mechanic. so i would expect something different this season

[blissful spear]

Which I'm very excited about

[shut quiver]

No, the fact that u have to make the complaint over years means it was ignored for years. It means like many sectors in this world, the minority(no matter how dedicated or how vocal or experienced) cant change things

[night marten]

what are these so many things that are broken?

[blissful spear]

Reminds me of the guy who applied at a company to fix a bug and then quit the job

[loud fable]

I genuinely think that's the wrong lesson here. People think fighting one thing is the issue, but it's not. It's just that one bossguything is not interesting. Imho, was hoping that the Evolution system would make the final beast feel like an Uber-like boss. Definitely not like a wet noodle.

[steel mesa]

yeah I'm hoping season 4 is good. I do love LE so I want to see them make the endgame more interesting

[loud fable]

The problem with swarming in games is that it's absolute slop, and there's no thinking behind it, and long-term, it just becomes uninteresting.

[steel mesa]

bout to sleep for work so I dun wanna get too deep into it but skill nodes, passive tree nodes, items

[night marten]

rampant coast is not a wet noodle. lol. but the onebossthing is the only thing LE has right now. they do need variety

[steel mesa]

It's frustrating when you're trying to make a build and stuff just doesn't actually work

[night marten]

sure, hit me up with it when you get up then/have time. cuz you brought up 'so many things' a few times so i want to know what you are actually looking at

you can dm if you want

i legitimately want to know what is broken

[steel mesa]

gotcha

[main frigate]

Oh then I will not interested in providing any feedback or suggestions because lots of players repeat that for years. It prove this game studio just ignore player's voice, don't care the community and immersed in their world only. Not a page I can stand on with them if I have the same opinions with these players.

[loud fable]

So, I played the mechanic, and evolved the beasts many times, and watched streams. All those max-evolved Rift Beasts, even at high CR, were just...not...interesting. You hit them, dodged their stuff, and they died. Nothing. Is there something else I missed?

My argument is "number go up" is bad, which is all that the Rampant Coast beast seems to be?

[night marten]

well you just described every single boss fight in LE

but not being intersting =/= wet noodle

[loud fable]

Right, yea, but I was obviously touching on the casts frequency, diversity, etc.

[loud fable]

I meant to say it's globally not interesting, and used the term "wet noodle", sorry. I didn't mean to imply you can just walk to it.

[steel mesa]

I don't wanna think that EHG ignores player input but a lot of feedback I've seen from people paints that picture. I think the truth is more than they're overwhelmed atm and need to somehow put a bigger focus on bug fixing while still putting out a decent patch.

[shut quiver]

Not just LE but isn't that how all boss fights go. U attack, dodge and attack until they die?

[night marten]

but thats why a lot of people want something other than one boss to fight. cuz thats all LE has rn. nemesis, mage, orobyss, aberroth, beasts, most timeline bosses...its all ONE thing to fight.

they need something different in a mechanic

[night marten]

that is literally 95% of games. i dodge, i hit you, you die. yes. dating back to NES Mario Bros. lol

[steel mesa]

idk if a raid mechanic would really fit a arpg boss fight. poe did something like that with uber maven memory game and literally everyone despises it to this day.

so yeah. that's how most boss fights go.

[main frigate]

#1210286675838767184 message

Yes, they lack of connections as I mentioned before

[glass pendant]

If there's pressure for content, I don't think it's the people pointing it out that apply it. If anything, when I hopefully see the next big patch I'll go back online. All a dedicated player does is point out an existing issue. It's the average player that's susceptible to leaving, not a long term fan. If anything, if they lose those, it's already too late

Maybe my logic has flaws, I'm at work so I probably worded that wonky

[night marten]

i still cannot do memory game. XD

but there are fun different mechanics you can put into boss fights that arent that like i love eater's mechanic

[steel mesa]

if i can't kill maven without ignoring memory game i just don't fight them lmao

uber bossing is my least favorite thing to do anyway, it's such a rough farm because of the insane rng

you either make bank or go heavy into the negative

[glass pendant]

Personally I'd like to see content with cumulative rewards that gets progressively harder and rewards you in the end depending on how far you've gone or how well you've done. Could be a multi layered thing. Maybe place "map sigils" as well, since skill sigils are already on the roadmap. Maybe pick modifiers, maybe use the forge for map crafting as well, maybe manipulate your loot for a big difficulty spike. I think more agency over the content you're doing to eliminate some of the rng would be a good incentive for replayability. As it stands, if I pull a 1/4k lp I still have a 1/3 to brick it. But what if game kicked my butt to help me earn that other than gamba

And not just for slamming. Say do something way harder to add fp to items

Idk man

[steel mesa]

personally as someone that wants more content- I wouldn't complain if there was a patch that they JUST focused on getting the game in a better place. The game needs it.

[shut quiver]

Just my opinion but I'm not all too aversed to gimmick fights either. Like in dark souls 3, if u fight yhorm with the boss battle specific blade u'll have an easier time and thats the gimmick but u can also just fight him normally

[night marten]

so kinda like ultimatum from poe?

(just for frame of reference)

[blissful spear]

I know it's not the time yet but I wanna see content that you interact in a weird way. Kind of like Blight being tower defense.

[glass pendant]

I don't see that happening. That addresses the top 1%. The average player will be disinterested

[glass pendant]

Combined with delve combined with base atlas mechanics, maybe expedition mixed in

You get the gist

[blissful spear]

Not expecting it for 2 or 3 seasons though

[steel mesa]

if LE added something like breach or the new abyss from poe2 I would play so much more. I just love more mob density that's rewarding.

[main frigate]

Primordial uniques are gimmick as you said then

[night marten]

i like blight and abyss. and now that EHG is a little more willing to dive into mob density, i think those could be good additions

[steel mesa]

I think right now the meta is doing woven echoes so actually mob farming isn't a big part of the game anymore

[glass pendant]

I'll be honest I'm a little tapped out on breach because of slormancer but in a vacuum I agree 😭

[night marten]

i can see ultimatum being possible too with a little more direct influence on the item drops

[steel mesa]

I don't think I'd ever get bored of breach-like mechanics

So long as they're rewarding ofc

[glass pendant]

I'd like a little less gamba with the price paid being challenge

Things like adding fp, or removing slams from uniques, but at a good cost

[steel mesa]

after playing poe2 abyss it's gonna be hard playing poe1 abyss

the qol of not needing to travel all over the map is crazy

[glass pendant]

It'll probably wear off, I like breaches too but I think I wouldn't love having 5 each map (probably why I got tired of them)

[steel mesa]

well I can understand why some people don't like it, it can be stressful getting max reward from your map cus you need to go fast

[night marten]

other question. with nemesis, mages, tombs, and rifts now. how much more content do you want in a singular echo? how long is too long to do one?

[blissful spear]

Running through act 10 felt so good because of that

[steel mesa]

so long as the content is rewarding I don't mind having long maps tbh

[glass pendant]

I'd like more than one cache per map personally. The imprint chance is way too low for their quantity and that pushes people into troves

[blissful spear]

Peak game (i have run forge endless times and lost my mind)

[glass pendant]

Either that or increase the imprint chance from them and balance troves accordingly

[glass pendant]

Oh my god you get me

[steel mesa]

although I'm not huge on side areas I guess, I'd like to see mechanics that add mob density straight into the map

[glass pendant]

You could triple the base density and I'd tell you I still want more. I hate half empty maps so much

[blissful spear]

I love the game but if I set 3 beam clones and go afk for 5-10 minutes one more time i'll die

[night marten]

sure, but didnt quite hit my question. if you are doing all the content that can spawn...and you are spending 3 minutes in a map (caches, nemesis, mages, rift, tombs)...is that fine? do you want more mechanics so each echo is longer, or like 3 mechanics an echo + objective? just curious where that line is for you?

[main frigate]

Tombs are ❎ so 3 available in a map now. I want 1-2 more, each one spend me 3 mins is the max.

[steel mesa]

I think it'd be a good addition, the game has become more boss damage reliant as of late so giving more power to clear builds would be nice

[blissful spear]

If you could get more than 1 rune per forge I'd be so happy

[night marten]

i kinda think they could easily enhance the gates or the beacons to be a useful horde mechanic in echoes

[glass pendant]

No I don't think base maps need more content in them. I think the game needs something other than base maps altogether (what I meant earlier with mechanics that trade deterministim for challenge)

All I want in base maps is a cache or two more on average and more density as a baseline

[blissful spear]

I personally don't agree. Maps are too massive to not have like 5 mechanics in them

[night marten]

so kinda like how cemetaries spawn in place of normal echoes?

[glass pendant]

And expand in other areas from there

[glass pendant]

Or maybe timelines with no webs but rather "detached pockets of timespace with a twisted realm of blah blah blah"

[steel mesa]

I think I'm okay with echoes having lots of content in them, the maps are pretty big and I still run into times where I'm just running without fighting anything

[glass pendant]

Also, would it be too crazy to say that the exiled mages feel way underwhelming compared to just about anything else inside a map

Nemesis, rift, and caches are times more rewarding

[night marten]

i dont forsee them doing a timeline without a web (but maybe)...but i could see some additions to the web itself...like walking into a space of like 4-5 echoes in a circle where you have a twisted realm of sorts, or like, 'extra dense void' where the mobs are harder or something.

or you could take the 'city' part of delve add kinda have that in the echo webs...webs and delve are fairly similar

[glass pendant]

They basically exist to pop prophecies and maybe ladle

[night marten]

nah, i agree. i normally avoid mages unless i have prophs

[glass pendant]

You still run into the problem of "gotta do 5 normal echoes until I reach the new content". I'd like an entire new tab to alternate on demand

[blissful spear]

Yeah they're just an old mechanic

[steel mesa]

exiled mages are kinda trash unless you're farming the wand

[night marten]

'old' mechanic. XD

[steel mesa]

they giga nerfed the experimental stuff that used to be good

[blissful spear]

I'd expect the "sigil season" to change them a lot

[steel mesa]

they should add new experimental affixes and probably remove the ones that are bad

[blissful spear]

It'd make sense that their forbidden research was those sigils

[night marten]

i wouldnt expect a change to mages until they expand a little on their stories. which could be sigils if we get that in s4

[blissful spear]

At least that's what I hope lol

[steel mesa]

I think the only thing I like seeing from the mages is the haste affix

[glass pendant]

Just ladle for me 💔

I have to say, while this season is small and does have its issues, I still think it's a crazy leap for EHG to do the change they did with primordial drops

It felt like the biggest balance change they ever did overnight

Literally went from 0-100

[night marten]

i was shocked when they changed it

[glass pendant]

Did they ever straight up just "add" something to a loot pool before?

Don't think they did

It was massive

To me, that alone is proof enough that they do listen

Maybe it's copium

[night marten]

i dont remember them making such a drastic change before

[blissful spear]

I didn't think them listening was being doubted

[broken trench]

making them drop instead of vendor only?

[blissful spear]

Mike does a weekly QA stream lol

[night marten]

yeah

[glass pendant]

I'm still waiting for my prophecy reroll hotkey 😔

[blissful spear]

And you can talk to them through like 2 chats on this discord

[blissful spear]

I'm waiting for icons for 1h and 2h weapons

But at least they made them for generic stuff (?

[night marten]

we are almost there. we got different colored icons now

[glass pendant]

And minion dps tooltips, and a function character sheet

Functional*

[night marten]

ok but those two are actually a lot of coding

[willow sentinel]

This was such a let down for me

[blissful spear]

I understand that it's very frustrating for these minuscule changes not to be done but hey I trust in the process

[glass pendant]

yeah I'm aware of the resources some things take in relation to others

I'm just saying

[night marten]

? you didnt want different colored icons? or you wanted all the icons to be different?

[blissful spear]

(only talking about icons)

[willow sentinel]

I wanted different icons

[glass pendant]

Plus like someone said a few weeks ago

They've lost their garage band street cred now

😭

[night marten]

i was really hyped about the icon changes. and then i went to roll 1h axe prophs and saw myself buying 2h axe ones. XD

[night marten]

lmao. people are blowing the buyout thing a little out of proportion rn i think

[glass pendant]

Friendly reminder that the "with at least 8 weaver's will" prophecy still plagues the armor section

[glass pendant]

I'm mostly joking haha

[night marten]

yeah, you are. but others arent.

[steel mesa]

I quit before this happened but it sounds like a very good change

[blissful spear]

A lot of people expected this season to use the big money

Which is. Not physically possible

[night marten]

lol. true. that money wont really be seen/felt for at least a few seasons

[blissful spear]

Honestly imagine how different people would act if the buyout was after this season

Idek what I'd expect

[glass pendant]

I could not believe my eyes those were EHG patch notes.

Gotta point out the good stuff

[steel mesa]

Integrating new devs takes time so I question if it will impact s4 much

[orchid sand]

If I was EHg and I was offered 100 million dollars for my lifes work into a game,. I would sell before I was finished my breath.
Most people would consider it a Career Milestone.

[night marten]

and its not like they sold and stepped out either. the same people are doing the same jobs

[glass pendant]

I'd sell before they even finished wording the offer

[blissful spear]

I expect little changes

[glass pendant]

Whoever blames them for such a thing is in the wrong

[blissful spear]

But not really noticeable

[steel mesa]

s3 had bad retention but they'll be fine, I think people underrate had freeing it is knowing you're no longer surviving patch to patch.

Mox basically implied they were surviving patch to patch as a studio so I understand some of their decision making

[glass pendant]

I still think a paying customer has the right to expect regardless, and while LE is probably the cheapest thing in the universe, from what I've collected is that the general consensus is people will gladly drop more for a better game.

[steel mesa]

For example they left early access too soon but it makes me think the game could've gone under without that release hype

[orchid sand]

Players are seeing it through the eyes of a gamer, not the eyes of someone who worked hard their entire life and is finally earning their big break.
GGG sold out to Tencent, and POE is doing fine. I expect the same with Krafton and EHG

[glass pendant]

I don't think further delay would've helped the game either even if it launched at a better state

They did need the hype

[blissful spear]

Though it worries me that it's happened twice that they release at the same time as PoE2

[glass pendant]

Launch day was a mess though, there were so many immature people making negative comments tagging Judd that I got myself muted for telling someone they clearly don't have a job 😭

Good times

[night marten]

the first time it was cuz poe2 kept bouncing around their date with delays...and they couldnt delay s2 again.

second time both companies needed to show they could hit a release date.

i dont think its going to happen a third time

[blissful spear]

I think it'd be insane for it to happen a third time

[night marten]

agree

[blissful spear]

Good analysis

[steel mesa]

If it happens a third time...

[glass pendant]

I meannnn... S4 is around holiday season. That carves a very obvious launch window

I don't cross it off personally

[night marten]

i would expect after christmas and newyears.

cuz rn 4 months is like 4 days before christmas

and they aint puttin out a patch to go on holiday

[steel mesa]

We need at least a 2 week gap

[glass pendant]

I'm split on whether that's wise. It's easy retention. I'd capitalize on that

Hitting holiday season sounds like a great opportunity

I don't know

[steel mesa]

I want to play both

[night marten]

IF ehg could put out a patch that didnt require hotfixes, i would agree

[steel mesa]

lmao

[night marten]

they hotfix fast. but.

it'd be nice

[steel mesa]

Yeah I doubt they wanna spend the holidays stressing over hotfixes

[night marten]

exactky

[glass pendant]

👀

cough cough

[night marten]

either they take 5 months on this to avoid holidays...or they rush 3/3.5 months and drop early dec

i dont think they rush

[glass pendant]

Wonder how feasible it'd be to reach out to Jonathan and be like alright we need to figure this out

[blissful spear]

I really would hope not, as well.

[orchid sand]

well it actually might be possible now without rushing since they have more funds to work with

[steel mesa]

0.4 probably launches a week before Christmas or right after Christmas if I had to guess

Delaying until mid January might be the move

[night marten]

possible

[orchid sand]

If POE2 launches before the holidays, I would absolutely prefer to launch LE either before or after the 2 week start of season. I dont really play POE2, but I dont want the game to launch where people will be like I cant play LE cuz its at the same time as POE2

[glass pendant]

thats why I'm saying a third time in a row isn't that improbable

[steel mesa]

Tbh I would prefer having LE 2 weeks before PoE2

[glass pendant]

That time of the year carves a very defined frame

[blissful spear]

Also I know it's really funny but I hope they stop delaying class updates 1 season later than the theme makes sense

Like if next league really is about exiled mages and we get a primalist rework I'll cry

[glass pendant]

Primalist for s3 did make sense

acolyte well...

[steel mesa]

I doubt they're timing it with themes

[glass pendant]

umbral blades nerf also made sense. They don't exist in the ancient era, too sophisticated

[steel mesa]

I think marksman needs help the most but w/e

[glass pendant]

bd needs it way more imo

[night marten]

they are just working thru old classes with w/e they have avail. lich needed its skill, it was being worked on. necro and BM got it cuz of the snapshot fixes

[steel mesa]

EHG doesn't like bows

[night marten]

like BD, shaman, pala, spellblade all need love

and the first 3 are missing a skill

and frankly pala is fine

[steel mesa]

Paladin should get it last smh

[night marten]

i'd expect the first two to get some attention

[steel mesa]

Mfs have been eating good

[night marten]

and if others in their class happen to get attention cuz of proximity

[glass pendant]

Something else I like about s3 is that the falconer nerfs didn't kill the class. Falconer still one of the biggest guns in season 3. Whoever in the CT actually looked into all that, big props

Hate something dying after a nerf

[steel mesa]

I would like to see some spellblade love...

[blissful spear]

Which one was BD

[night marten]

EHG generally does their nerfs pretty well without nuking classes

bladedancer

[blissful spear]

Ah

[orchid sand]

yeah I kind of like/hate that about marksman, for once , Ranger isnt the strongest class but it's also wierd that its not the strongest class, cuz in every other game in this genre I've played, it's always been the most OP class

[steel mesa]

I remember some mage nerfs being heavy

[glass pendant]

Yeah glacier got murdered

And frost claw isn't exactly up there anymore either

Even though that didn't really do damage

[steel mesa]

static orb

[glass pendant]

It just permafroze

Oh orb too yeah

[steel mesa]

lightning blast or bust rn

[glass pendant]

at least lb is gigantic this season

Same kill speed as umbrals

[steel mesa]

(LB is my favorite skill so idc)

[glass pendant]

It's one of the strongest non broken things

[main frigate]

👀 I like burning daggers the most

[glass pendant]

You're coping more than all of us combined

😭

[night marten]

lol

[blissful spear]

The beastmaster nerfs next season are gonna be something.

[steel mesa]

LB itself isn't broken but all the different scaling vectors combined is imo

[main frigate]

?

[glass pendant]

I think it's in a good place

[steel mesa]

At least it's not as broken as mana stacking flay or bear

Lol

[night marten]

you can still play it fine. you just cant regain ALL your mana to constantly spam it

[glass pendant]

You also gotta consider how painful it is to gear

[glass pendant]

It's not strong enough to justify using it in the current powercreep

[night marten]

thats powercreeps fault

not the nerf tho

[steel mesa]

If I can't constantly spam something it's not worth smh

[glass pendant]

yeah probably

I don't know, the fact remains that when there's a clear stronger solution, people will wanna farm with it. Those outdated setups are for the people who wanna play something off meta walking into it willingly

[steel mesa]

Solving mana is probably my least favorite part of this game still

Especially on mage. I hate focus.

[glass pendant]

(that's why my favorite skill is aerial assault )

[steel mesa]

Tru

[glass pendant]

Best part about s3 falc is that nobody calls it broken anymore yet it still kills Uber in less than 2 mins and has one of the best clears in the game

love the bird lady unapologetically

Avoiding all allegations

[steel mesa]

It's fine that it's still really good

Not that it matters. They replaced falconer with new uber oneshots

[glass pendant]

probably why I enjoyed it way way more this season

[steel mesa]

Yeah it's more satisfying when you have to actually interact with the game

[glass pendant]

Optimizing Uber on it felt amazing

Walked in with 1lps and a 3 minute kill

Dropped it to 1:29

Best experience ever

[trim flint]

Guys
Did they release twitch drops this season yet ?

[night marten]

they were released when they were active

if you havent gotten any, reach out to support

[trim flint]

Aw F###

[night marten]

!support

[rancid basalt]

Need a hand? Just head on down to https://support.lastepoch.com/ for support articles or to reach out to us directly.

[trim flint]

Thanks

[trim flint]

Wait is it possible to still ge them through support even if i missed them ?

[night marten]

if you watched and your accounts just werent linked properly, maybe

but if you didnt watch, no

[trim flint]

Rip
I will get them offline with mods anyway

[untold skiff]

Any plans to make transmogs ?

[simple bison]

Yes but no eta

[untold skiff]

ah ok, lol cause my char looks soo jank

[twin vapor]

done with the season, is it time to be trying out poe2?

[inner finch]

I'd there an answer to this that can be serious?

[untold skiff]

you're free do whatever u want.......

[night marten]

no. you arent allowed to play poe2 anymore ever

[twin vapor]

kekw

[main frigate]

interesting, EHG HR official account is here even

EHG want to find talented people to hire so much lol

[lusty quarry]

how do i post in #1210281997591908452 ? says i dont have permission

game freeze in offline mode when i skip cutscene

[main frigate]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1210283526210191380

[lusty quarry]

i cant also post in #1210281911872786482

[steep river]

Post into one of the existing categories.

[dull seal]

how do i go about reporting a bug?

[sweet dust]

F8

[glass pendant]

Understood, uninstalling

[willow sentinel]

Time to try Slormancer

[unkempt sphinx]

There's nothing to try unless u like CBT. Or you wana play deadeye

[main frigate]

lol

[main frigate]

check out #📚┃off-topic .
A small poe 2 club is here if you want to join.

[torn holly]

So are they ever going to fix barrage abilities shotgunning at point blank?

It was an issue with spirit barrage, and now they added crystal barrage with the same problem

[willow sentinel]

Dont stay at close range duh
Its really annoying though

Ghost is terrorizing me

[night marten]

the crystal barrage at least gives you an area to not stand in and some warning

[crystal maple]

hello guys cant enter the game

[night marten]

the necro gas was shotgunning with no warning at all

[dull light]

guys should i stick to crab ring for swiftness? or change to flames of midnight have swiftness also

[ruby flume]

also phantom mire gloves has^

[pastel summit]

My issue with carcinization of momentum is just that it's too good. Unless I managed to get my ideal ring, it's really hard to find something more worthy of the slot.

I guess I feel really sad when the crab dies. Maybe they should buff it to be the strongest summon in the game.

But only sometimes.

Make it tanky as hell, but have its damage performace be wildly unreliable.

[red plaza]

if you completed all quests, shouldnt you have 2 in all attributes?

[torn holly]

no, the area its hitting has nothing to do with it hitting you on the way TO the area

it should be telegraphed as a line and not a zone if the projectiles can deal damage to you en route

[pastel summit]

At the minimum, yes.

Did they move the unversial +1 from majasa with the new update?

[red plaza]

so, I think my char is bugged then?

I killed the final boss before they fixed it, so I couldnt properly complete the quest

but now i logged in, and the quest just completed itself, but i didnt get the reward?

[torn holly]

how are you checking?

[red plaza]

apparently I cannot calculate correctly, lol. i just unequipped everything and reset all passive points, and it is correct

my bad -.-"

[fluid pebble]

Did EHG definitively fix the issue with invisible enemies, or not yet?

[willow sentinel]

I haven't seen it in the patch notes

[fluid pebble]

OK, because I almost died to one 😅

If they did say they'd fixed it, I'd raise another bug, but if they are still working on it, not really worth it

[willow sentinel]

It is worth it

More data is beneficial

[tulip niche]

What is the fasted build than can still boss decently.

[tulip niche]

I have never experienced this issue that I am aware of. Is it common?

[fluid pebble]

No, I've not really experienced it much myself, and I've played a fair few hours this season

[tulip niche]

Or maybe it is an online thing and related to desync?

I remember that used to be rampant in PoE back in the day.

Lost many a HC character to that XD

[fluid pebble]

It's happened to me twice in like nearly 100 hours (or maybe more)

So I wouldn't call it common

[hoary shard]

did the game buff red ring drop or what?

[tulip niche]

Fair enough, I don't recall seeing it at all in the 60 hours I have.

[hoary shard]

0 drop since launch and today its just drop 2

[tulip niche]

No but as the game gets more and more power creep then that indirectly makes them more likely to drop compared to back in the day

[night marten]

Nah, there are a few that still spawn invis. Ik the soul furnaces seem to be popular to be invis

[hoary shard]

oh mb, i mean since new season start

1 drop is lucky, 2 i kinda scared

[tulip niche]

RNG at it's finest

[hoary shard]

i wish its happen sooner

[tulip niche]

But with how much power creep the game has gotten in just the last 2 seasons it would be no surprise that people are seeing them more. Builds in general are able to push higher, faster and with more density of rewards.

[torn holly]

i just logged in a few mins ago np

[hallow scroll]

Anyone else cosmetics disappearing when zoning in and out of places?

[torn holly]

verifying files might fix this issue

[night marten]

Is it the bazaar?

[hallow scroll]

It's everywhere

I also bought the primal vanquisher supporter pack. Thanks for a great update guys 👍

[torn holly]

did verifying files help? cosmetic assignments are stored locally somewhere, there might be something in %APPDATA% that needs to be removed

[sly vessel]

has anyone been crashing more since the update

[willow maple]

hye how do i farm evolutions amulet ? by doin rift beast ?

[inner finch]

Evolutions End drops... when evolutions end

just do the beast system

[carmine arch]

man why the hell do I have to spend 50k on rerolling just because the game only wants to give shatter runes for prophecies?

I feel like we should just be able to buy our Prophecies and they can increase how much favor you need because this spending a hour to reroll 10 times just to buy something that is about 1k favor...... spent more on rerolling is crazy

LOL you can sit so long rerolling for the prophecies you are looking for for the game to kick you for inactivity. That should be a sign that something needs fixed

[slender thicket]

Did ehg nerf rampant coast spawns? I found none in form of droos past couple of days, and from imprints I feel like they've become rarer

[green imp]

So even with Red Rings in the weaver tree they're still stupidly hard to drop? Lame

[dapper wedge]

well it is a rare drop m8

adding them to weaver tree helps a lot though

[autumn briar]

yesterday seems like they were still proccing a lot from imprint, haven't played today

[lyric cargo]

Tried imprinting a bad unique lp4 ring since my rr imprint always gave me bad rings, now I'm getting a bunch of lp2-3 of that same ring lol

[lusty quarry]

arent i supposed to switch to light room when fighting chronomancar julra?

i cant switch

[lusty quarry]

when i die and spend a key i dont get the ability to switch realm

wasted 4 keys -.-

i think this also happens on all dungeons if you spend a 2nd key (playing offline) everything breaks

[mellow crag]

poe2 and le are f*****borderland 4 is better

[keen rock]

is there a decent alternative for a shield throw paladin build to no Mantle of the Ox and no Manifest Armor?

I realize the combination there is 20-24% dmg transferred to your minion, and dps gain if you can get it to bounce between your minion and the boss, but:

• that's so klunky I hate depending on it
• when your minion drops, that's a lot of defense lost.
• finding 3+LP Mantles of the Ox is brutal.

I want to be more able to face tank stuff and I kinda hate the minion reliance

[nova dirge]

So I just level up to increase my Merchants Guild rank? And how do I effectively farm gold? Echos don't drop much gold.

[willow sentinel]

Sell stuff

[nova dirge]

Yeah I've got some stuff listed

I can't even buy anything decent until my rank is higher, lol. I don't have enough gold to either

I'm getting like 10k gold per echo, that is going to take me days

Guess I'll just smash a dozen echos, lol

I'm liking the game though. Seems like a lot of the different builds are viable with the right gear. I'm a total noob though, I got bored of D4 real quick. I'm liking all the different possible builds in LE

[main frigate]

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[nova dirge]

The designers of Last Epoch did a good job minimizing the code bloat it seems. I'm not getting any of the rubber banding like I get in D4 and PoE 2

[unkempt sphinx]

Code has nothing to do with rubber banding in the way you say, it's not matching client side and server background things. Mostly Internet

[severe socket]

There's still a LOT to do.

And by a lot I mean A F---ING LOT.

To criminally understate.

[pearl veldt]

hey, just finished my play of the POE 2 league and looking to play the new last epoch league. i wanna play a strong build and figure the builds have been figured out by now. could anyone recommend a strong build to play

[sweet dust]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/tierlists

[steep river]

^ just a note that they're ranking their builds against each other. There are a lot of other builds out there as well and you can always make up your own for at least the Campaign.

[olive lotus]

I was in the same situation few days ago, i did go in SSF and playing acolyte necromancer fire minion build, it's really really strong, i'm new too and for moment my build is really really big, the campaign was fluid and now in the "map" it start to struggling but still nice

[steep river]

Respec in LE is fairly painless. You can switch Skills for free - just need to relevel Skill a bit, Passives for regular gold, and Mastery for more regular gold. Just can't change your base class. So feel free and make up your own build, if you want to, and then if you need a guide later you can respec.

[split skiff]

If you're in MG as you are I'd suggest using the TSM filter. It's by far the most popular MG filter. You can find the Discord in #1361743745116016780 . The Discord has the filters, you can also find them on Last Epoch Tools. Here's the link. I'd suggest using the Strict or Very Strict level of the filter. https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/ (Just search TSM).

[latent jacinth]

Hey folks, does anyone know if there is there a way to set a priority for auto-management for tier:8/personal items?

[rocky copper]

LF recommendation for a fun but OP build
reflect shaman is both but im kinda bored with him now
I played void knight/sent judgment last season, anyting else ?

[night marten]

i know its another sentinel...but forged weapons are pretty strong

[rocky copper]

ill look into that, ty !

[steep river]

I don't believe there's currently an option for that. You can select Rarity: Exalted, but there isn't an option for the affix tier at this time. You can let the devs know you'd like that feature by posting into one of the existing categories in #1210282176680169562 .

[urban star]

Good job screwing up the server settings why are we getting notifs for all messages

[burnt eagle]

Honestly strikes me more of a "Discord doing dumb discord things again", pretty sure servers have zero control over client notification settings

[urban star]

They do if they flip it on and off

it will force it on for everyone on the server

Which is what they did

People have to turn it off manually again

[latent jacinth]

Thanks!