town-square

[fervent remnant]

and use galvanised square steels

[slow sundial]

I wonder who plays with regions other than new players

Extra huge maps are a must for a proper city

[fervent remnant]

i dont

[slow sundial]

Same

[fervent remnant]

i just use literally just 6km maps

[iron magnet]

Hi

[slow sundial]

I am more extreme about it

Using 30 sq mi maps

[fervent remnant]

because i wont be able to even finish it and just move on

to another project

[iron magnet]

Managed to nap

Anyways

For me i always use giant

Even tho i know im not gonna finish it 100%

[fervent remnant]

i am not ready for anything bug yet

[slow sundial]

Why not giant maps

[fervent remnant]

big

not ready for them ngl

[iron magnet]

I like huge maps

[slow sundial]

I use even bigger because my phone could handle it

[slow sundial]

I like ever bigger or giant plots of land

Huge plots are only good for city sections

[iron magnet]

My specs can only handle giant

[slow sundial]

I once used to play in giant or a custom 11x11 map

11x11 map is smaller than an even bigger map

Even bigger is 15x15

[fervent remnant]

i haven't even started on my dutch city project

i only have the base map that im having second thoughts about

[slow sundial]

Hell cities occupy more than 300 sq km

Like actual 1 million plus cities

[fervent remnant]

can show it the base of the map

might take long though

i am feeling dizzy from gulping Champagne in one go

[iron magnet]

Why did you drink it fast

Youre supposed to drink it slow

Feel the flavor

Dont chug it like a bottle of water

[slow sundial]

I'm too virgin and poor to understand drinking fancy fermented grapes

[fervent remnant]

thoughts

dont mind the random building

[slow sundial]

No natural looking terrain smh

[fervent remnant]

not finished

[slow sundial]

Otherwise good

[fervent remnant]

was going yo like make a hill

in that top part

[iron magnet]

Theres a thing khione

[slow sundial]

If ur planning a flevopolder like region

[iron magnet]

Called heightmaps

[slow sundial]

Don't

[iron magnet]

Ptag heightmaps

[formal pike]

You want to make a region that resembles a real place? Use heightmaps!

1. Go to https://tangrams.github.io/heightmapper/ and find your wanted location.
2. Make sure that the colors are right. Black will become water and white will be hills.
3. Take a screenshot and change the name (example.jpg).
4. Put the image in your TheoTown folder, not in the subfolders.
5. Go to the region generator and and type in the image name (example.jpg).
6. Enjoy your new custom region!

[slow sundial]

Building in heightmaps are a nightmare

[iron magnet]

I dont have problems with it

[slow sundial]

Don't

[fervent remnant]

on that area

or just the side as a natural barrier

was going to make more uhh curving water ways

but busy with clearance

[slow sundial]

I swear how do i cram 1 million people in a huge map while looking like a normal city (no feverish skyscraper spam)

[fervent remnant]

should i extend the land more to the bottom?

[slow sundial]

Yes

My 20 sq km unfinished city barely holds 130K in theotown smh

[fervent remnant]

might change the shape

still thinking

[candid drift]

So how can i expand the size of the map?

Where i build my city

[tardy stump]

you can't

[candid drift]

Dam

[tardy stump]

if you already made the city

[candid drift]

Dang

[tardy stump]

you can make custom regions via console and expand the possible single city size by enabling Debug mode > experimental settings

[tiny brook]

So, its been 4 hours since my first playthrough and it seems i've made a big mistake, can someone please tell me how to fix this mess?

nvm, this one's the better picture

[slow sundial]

Lack of power

[tiny brook]

i just can't accumulate enough money before spmething needs spending, thanks tho

[woeful pilot]

Is it too late to start anew? Im literally making a map of the entire Netherlands

5 hrs till done max

[fervent remnant]

not really

late

im practically just doing terrain and planning it

[woeful pilot]

just a sec

thats the progress so far

[fervent remnant]

cool

i really like dutch cities

cuz of how pedestrian friendly it is

[woeful pilot]

ever been in NL?

[fervent remnant]

im drunk and dumb rn idk whats that

[woeful pilot]

Netherlands
xd

[fervent remnant]

AAAAAA

my god

nope

never been

haven't even left the country

[woeful pilot]

that tells me you gotta be from the US, right?

[fervent remnant]

not really

[woeful pilot]

lol

[fervent remnant]

from Asia

[woeful pilot]

I kinda messed around when I said 5 hrs, it shouldnt take longer than 2.

• sometime to get it published

[candid drift]

i'm from peru

[fervent remnant]

cant be from the US when i hate their architecture and city/suburban design

[woeful pilot]

same here, also a fellow watcher of njb?

[versed timber]

Let's stay on topic please and thanks

[fervent remnant]

la ✨stroad✨

but yeah hows the Dutch map going

[woeful pilot]

classic
it goin gud

[woeful pilot]

mkay, what is topic when chat ded?

[versed timber]

It's whatever the next game related message is

As this channel is about the game

[woeful pilot]

thx mr obvious.
anyway, 70% finished ig

[versed timber]

If your looking for causal discussion I suggest #general

[woeful pilot]

thats a good idea, @fervent remnant Im movin over there

[barren nimbus]

This city makes my eyes burn

[wild sand]

do y'all know any good plugins to make a dying light 1 sort of city?

[woeful pilot]

89 % finishe´dd

[woeful pilot]

there

[patent vortex]

What do you listen when you make city

[patent vortex]

How huge is that

[woeful pilot]

only the biggest possible size xd

[patent vortex]

In computer?

[woeful pilot]

yesyesysys ofc, aint got no Iphone 25 for that

next step: make the water look good without losing patience

[wide flume]

Kpop songs

[woeful pilot]

Synth /Vaporwave

[jovial igloo]

lofi, game soundtrack, all kind of music really

[woeful pilot]

I think its ready to go public tmrw

[steep dagger]

Before and after the removal of the northbound tracks

Removed due to possible traffic congestion and accidents

[gleaming hare]

Me when someone sends a city picture where not even a free square is spotted (im cooked, they make better cities)

[gleaming hare]

Rotate the angle.

[steep dagger]

what

[brave echo]

rotate your map

[tiny brook]

how do you do it in the desktop website

?

[torpid veldt]

Desktop website?

[tiny brook]

like discord in google

[safe kettle]

what??

[jovial igloo]

My city on my phone

[jovial igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-jonathan-banks-mike-ehrmantraut-smh-shake-my-head-gif-4771286

[charred tinsel]

im maxing the population

[jovial igloo]

You do you

[charred tinsel]

then im dropping a sun

[charred tinsel]

smash

[steady lichen]

spell correctly

[quasi beacon]

Nice 👍

[deep brook]

C o r r e c t l y

Done

[red fractal]

🌁

[steep dagger]

You make citizens slave to your region.

[regal tulip]

how do you make double decker highways like this

[candid drift]

At each end, the top is longer than the bottom.

[regal tulip]

aight

[candid drift]

Or there's supports on the sides that we can't see

[naive vessel]

There is another way @candid drift and @regal tulip

[candid drift]

How?

[naive vessel]

2 ways actually but this one's easier
#tips-n-tricks message

[candid drift]

It's not patched?

And that's not double decker

[naive vessel]

Still not, nor should it be

[naive vessel]

You can abuse the glitch for a double decker

[candid drift]

I'll stick with my ways

My BRT does not need wires

[naive vessel]

The wires get automatically removed when u place a road on it, I'll just show it in d form of a video some other time

[candid drift]

Yeah ik

[naive vessel]

Aight

[steady lichen]

Impossible angle.

[jovial igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/pings-off-reply-pings-off-reply-ping-discord-reply-ping-gif-22087396

[patent vortex]

Where is the settingn to activate the feature so we can stack road decoration?

For advanced road

[candid drift]

@patent vortex enable debug

[patent vortex]

Then?

[candid drift]

experiments

[patent vortex]

Oh i see

Thanks

[slow sundial]

Literally unplayable

No mining stations in sight yet mr pickle says there's still mining stations

[naive vessel]

Not everything is as it seems boy

[steady lichen]

i got a little jealous

my friend went to the moon

me no

[slow sundial]

Just create a city full of rich people

Boom 300k plus income

[steady lichen]

nuh uh

[steady lichen]

how

[slow sundial]

Depends

The cheesy way or the normal way

[nocturne lotus]

Oh I wonder how much my German city it making

[river quartz]

when Poly Diagonal Bridge Release

[nocturne lotus]

That'll be hard to do

[nocturne lotus]

Well

I need this for Carcer City

Found it

I need this

[torpid veldt]

#plugin-suggestions

[patent vortex]

After building my fictional nation i have an urge to recreate the island of sodor 💀💀💀

[patent vortex]

Great now i have the urge to create a digital collection of text covering the people and history of Pedroleno

[nocturne lotus]

Lol

[dense bolt]

Helloooo

How do I make a tunnel without spending diamond

[dense bolt]

Your pfp gibes trauma 🥺

[celest moon]

Build road authority building or buy unlimited tunnels or get the premium version (PC) or get Philippines Road Pack

[dense bolt]

How to buy unlimited tunnels

[celest moon]

By buying it with real money

[dense bolt]

Is there any plugins that allows this?

[celest moon]

Philippines road pack

[dense bolt]

Ohhh thanks 🫡🫡🫡🫡

🤗🤗

[coral shore]

Can someone send me something for a good airport design? Military/Commercial either or, both even

[celest moon]

You can check #featured-cities or check the official TheoTown gallery

[coral shore]

Aye

[patent vortex]

I see that

@evanwheezer

Herrow 🗣️🗣️

Tbh i like the architecture

Very sleek

And a slight brutalist tone but had a touch of nature with it's building material.

[dense bolt]

Helloo how do you curve roads

And is it possible to make curved roads on a level higher?

I can't make diagonal bridge

[slow sundial]

Use advanced roads tor that

Haven't made one so can't tell

[dense bolt]

Where do I get one

[slow sundial]

Forums

Free

[dense bolt]

Yoooo heelllppp
I made a random plot as uber mode now I can't find it

[slow sundial]

Breh

Check single cities

[dense bolt]

How

[slow sundial]

Click the globe

[dense bolt]

Plugins?

[slow sundial]

Yes

[dense bolt]

And

[slow sundial]

Click on single cities

[dense bolt]

And then?

[slow sundial]

Do you have any single cities saved?

[patent vortex]

@safe kettle what happened with the most recent event

[dense bolt]

Noooo

[safe kettle]

nothing

[patent vortex]

Unfinished?

[safe kettle]

I'm no longer the plugin manager

[dense bolt]

Does uber mode go if you reset a city or something?

[slow sundial]

Dammit

[patent vortex]

Oh

[slow sundial]

It does

[dense bolt]

I searched whole theonia I can't find it

[safe kettle]

the submissions weren't good enough and we just kinda forgot about it

[dense bolt]

NOOOOOOOO

😭

[patent vortex]

Oh, alright thank you

[dense bolt]

Goodbye 100 dia

[patent vortex]

😔

[dense bolt]

💀☠️ 😢😭

[slow sundial]

I prefer sandbox than uber

Thank you

Basically the same with plugins

[dense bolt]

I did sandbox uber thooo

[slow sundial]

Especially with the overpowered public buildings

[dense bolt]

I didn't know what is Uber so I got it thinking it'll apply everywhere

Now it doesn't even exist

Wasted 100 dia for nothing

Didn't even test the godamn mode

[dense bolt]

Like which one

[slow sundial]

Large 4x4 school

Phillipine central bank

The anticorruption one

Service building +

[lapis stag]

i just recently started getting a bunch of notifications from theotown, anyone know how to stop them? (I play on a Chromebook)

[slow sundial]

Basically free versions of the diamond priced service buildings

Or the main fire station

[slow sundial]

Just go to settings and disable notifs

[hidden sandal]

Hello

[dense bolt]

I need to save this

This advanced road?@slow sundial

[lapis stag]

ohh kk nvm. i didn't see the setting b4 thx

[jaunty ivy]

Ya

[slow sundial]

Yep

[dense bolt]

It's asking 80 diamond bro

[jaunty ivy]

Not much

[dense bolt]

Yeahhhhh

[jaunty ivy]

And it's worth it

[dense bolt]

Aight I'm a get it thanks tho 🤗
Love you folks

[slow sundial]

PBZ bank is also op as a park

Even though it's a commercial building

[stiff basin]

Is there any aeroclub plugin?

[native grail]

BRO WHAT HELL IS HAPPEND?

[versed timber]

You have the Halloween content on the map

[slow sundial]

205k income for a 100k pop city?

Preposterous

[native grail]

Shhhh

[celest moon]

This looks like a scam. Any mods online?

@hybrid oyster

[versed timber]

Pmodmenu @drowsy plover

[formal pike]

Case #4807

amazing_winner was banned for the following reason: Sharing or spreading scams or phishing content.

[celest moon]

Thanks Evan

[vital igloo]

Too bad I pinged all of the inspectors

Evan have inspector role smh

[jaunty ivy]

A tile in theotown is 10x10 meters, right?

[hot crown]

Hmm… something that’s always irked me with Advanced Road: It can’t do bridges.

[brave echo]

9.6 meters approximately

[jaunty ivy]

Chat GPT is telling me to make city blocks that are 200x300 meters

So, that's about 20x30 tiles

That gives a lot of room for space buildings and parking lots

[safe kettle]

poor idea

[brave echo]

Say no more #city-showcase message

[jaunty ivy]

Why?

Is it unrealistic?

[safe kettle]

open the game and see how much 30 tiles is

[jaunty ivy]

I know how large it is

Don't talk down to me, I'm just wondering why it's a bad idea

Is it because the scale of the buildings are small compared to the roads, or what?

[safe kettle]

??

the game doesn't scale well and it's simply a bad idea to measure pretty much anything

[jaunty ivy]

Hmm, I'll try it anyway

[safe kettle]

nobody's stopping you

[grim igloo]

What happens if i put my tollbooth payment to max

[jaunty ivy]

People will dislike it

[grim igloo]

Does it lower any stat

[jaunty ivy]

Try it

[grim igloo]

My transportation

Bro

[dense bolt]

Hellpppp it's my first big map and I'm so confused what to do where to start how to plan my brain ain't braining

Also spent an hour making two lines of road removing rebuilding lol

[slow sundial]

Give me the map

[hot crown]

???

Is that Mew’s?

[brave echo]

Yes and no

[hot crown]

Define?

[hot crypt]

if you want to be banned sure

the plugin store wont work most likely

it can crash from time to time

you will get a little friend named Mr virus in your pc

totally worth it

you can move the plugin files and the city, but that wont stop any of what I said lol

just dont pirate it

buy it

or use emulator

nope

[hot crown]

Sadly, no.

I pray that the gaming gods bless us with such a feature later on.

[hot crypt]

you can use Psuggest in #bot-commands and suggest it to the Devs

you can have as many plugins your device can hold

pretty much

depends from plugin to plugin and from device to device

[jaunty ivy]

Other block sizes in TT tiles that are realistic but walkable are

6 x 6 (Portland)
7 x 11 (A studied ideal block size)
7 or 8 x 27 or 28 (Manhattan)
20 x 20 (Salt Lake City)

Keep in mind that the SLC blocks are commonly subdivided, and they represent crosses from major roads

[jaunty ivy]

As you can see in this picture, there's smaller streets going into the main block to give access to the inner area of the block. Also note how much of an area parking takes.

Cities in TT tend to be crammed together, when in a lot of places, especially the US, there's a lot of room between structures

Here's an image of US city block sizes with the TT tile equivalent. This doesn't include road and sidewalk width, so it's the inner measurements.
Carson City: 5.7 x 5.7
Portland 6.4 x 6.4
Charlottsville 7.6 x 6.4
Laredo 6.7 x 8.6
Houston 7.9 x 7.9
Jacksonville 6.9 x 9.5
Austin 8.9 x 8.9
Omaha 9.5 x 8.9
Alexandria 11.1 x 7.9
Duluth 9.5 x 12.7
Sacramento 10.5 x 10.5
Denver 8.5 x 12.7
Baton Rouge 10.1 x 10.1
Phoenix 9.5 x 9.5
Columbus 12.7 x 12
Macon 13.6 x 13.6
New York City 6.4 x 29.3
Salt lake City 20.9 x 20.9

(Instead of the earlier message I use the measurement 9.6 m per tile. That is why the sizes are a little bit different.)

[candid drift]

so build in 66 or 88

[jaunty ivy]

It depends

Barcelona's city blocks are also interesting

They have the corners cut off for intersections

This shape is pretty hard to get inside Theotown

But if someone can do it, I'm sure it'll look incredible

Again, you can see that they don't only have the main streets between the blocks, but smaller alleyways cutting up the buildings

It's difficult making the buildings this tightly packed while staying in the TT grid, except for special plug-ins made to build something like this

The whole topic about how to lay out roads for urban areas is quite interesting, but the limits of Theo make it difficult to recreate in-game

The spaghetti type of roads that are in Europe are especially hard

[jaunty ivy]

Here are the grid sizes made in game

I'm uploading the images, so wait a second

These are not bad sizes to use when building other cities.

The medium sized ones are big enough to allow more details inside the city blocks. I am also not including building setback space and sidewalks.

Salt Lake City has two different grid sizes. There is an area in the northern area of the city with a smaller grid size that is filled with residential.

The large grid most people talk about was originally planned for the city center

Then there are even larger city blocks for the more rural areas that were made for farming

Those have since been cut up into smaller blocks and used for residential zones

The 4 x 4 block a lot of people use in Theotown is incredibly small by real life standards.

Even 6 x 6 is on the small side

Who pinged me 🦅

[hot crown]

Hmm… I see the Railroad Expansion isn’t great for subways or elevated rails.

They’re programmed such that their trains only go to specified platforms.

[candid drift]

Have someone a video where are showing tips and stuff?(im a beginner)

[jaunty ivy]

What specifically are you looking for?

[candid drift]

I think income and prettyness

[jaunty ivy]

Worry about income first

[candid drift]

Okey

[jaunty ivy]

Learn how to make a working city before you try making it have decorations

[candid drift]

And most of the time i dont know where to build my Industry

[candid drift]

Okey

Is there a video for tips and stuff? So i make less mistakes

[jaunty ivy]

You can build industrial areas anywhere as long as it's far enough away from residential

Commercial can be right next to it

[jaunty ivy]

You can look on YouTube for tutorials, and in #tips-n-tricks

[candid drift]

So 🟩🟦🟧?

[jaunty ivy]

Also the pins in the different channels in this server are nice

[jaunty ivy]

Ya

That's a simple City layout

[candid drift]

Okey

[jaunty ivy]

You can have a main road going down the middle

[candid drift]

Yea yea i know that

[jaunty ivy]

Commercial can go anywhere, so you're able to mix it in the residential and industrial zones

[candid drift]

So commercial can go anywhere?

[jaunty ivy]

Get schools down as soon as possible, you make a lot more money

[jaunty ivy]

Yeah

[candid drift]

Okey thank you

[jaunty ivy]

It's definitely worth it getting TT and TTT type residences

[candid drift]

Okey okey thank you

[jaunty ivy]

Even though you need to supply more needs

[candid drift]

And is Agriculture worth?

[jaunty ivy]

Yeah, it doesn't cause pollution iirc

[candid drift]

True

[jaunty ivy]

And it has less water and electricity needs, however, they are mostly low income

So it's a lot of space for a smaller amount of money

[candid drift]

Okey

Thank you

Appreciate it : D

[jaunty ivy]

Ya

👍

[lilac storm]

yo

[jaunty ivy]

Hi

[lilac storm]

im new to this game

andi need ways to get gems quick

[jaunty ivy]

What do you need the gems for?

[lilac storm]

i wanna get skesomeskesome addons

[jaunty ivy]

Most of them just require watching a 20-30 second ad

[lilac storm]

srry if my grammar sucks my keyboard is crappy

[jaunty ivy]

It's fine

9/10 if you're tight on diamonds, it's not worth it to spend gems to get a specific plugin

You can watch ads and get the daily reward. If you don't skip a day, you can get 530 a week

More than enough to eventually get what you want

[fervent remnant]

find a very busy road and put toll gates

[hot crown]

Yup… as expected, the Railroad Expansion isn’t great for elevated railways.

Only works well at ground level unless you’re willing to put in extra work.

Hmm… I have a lame idea.

Never mind. The standard elevated rails are much higher than the Railroad Expansion stations.

[hot crown]

Eh, found a subway method that works. Stations are above ground; the rails run below and surface at the stations.

[dense bolt]

Loot that moniiii

XD

Sometimes traffic increases when I put toll gates

[random marten]

i have no idea how to make an appealing looking airport

[fervent remnant]

thats the things

i dont have a clue on

[slow sundial]

Finally, got a jackpot

[slow sundial]

Some airports don't look appealing irl

[carmine spindle]

@fervent remnant I'm happy to assist you with your airport if you want!

[jaunty ivy]

There's also many good tutorials on YouTube

[patent vortex]

Now spend it on gambling

https://youtu.be/Z_gDLNXdPjI?si=VJsLboaOSro_yuJK

[dire salmon]

im playing one of the default towns and what do I do with the almighty pickle

anyone else remove it

[dense bolt]

Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[celest moon]

Destroy the little ones using the bulldozer tool

[dire salmon]

but do some people keep it? or mostpeople destroy it

[celest moon]

I mean if you want to defeat the Pickles then destroy it

[jaunty ivy]

It's weird

I get different measurements depending where I get my numbers from. For example, this message has New York at 6 x 29 and I found other measurements that put it at 8 x 28

Portland seems to be a consistent 6 x 6

Some measurements measure to the middle of the road between blocks, others measure to where the buildings start, not including the street width and setbacks from the road.

Sometimes in the same video or table they measure the blocks differently

It's annoying when trying to find the TT equivalent of the actual build area within a block and not count the road width and setbacks.

Anyway, I got more block sizes. Hopefully they are accurate. I'm going to make a #tips-n-tricks video about realistic block sizes eventually.

I freaking swear.

I want to fly there myself and measure the blocks myself sometimes.

Why is it so inconsistent?

Are they this bad irl?

If there's obstacles that I don't know about, that'll explain it. That could cause some variation in the measurements.

[steady lichen]

guys how do i make stackable roads

[rancid stone]

o

i got 14k downloads on my first plugin

:3

[dense bolt]

Belloo

[rancid stone]

i'm happy

[dense bolt]

Your pfp miku is so cute

[rancid stone]

thanks

[celest moon]

Props Pack?

[jovial igloo]

i wanted to replace these 2 plugin i got, organize things and make it look better

[fervent remnant]

does it have diagonal?

[jovial igloo]

its a decoration

[celest moon]

I assume that you're probably not gonna release this to the public. But that's fine still looks cool

[gleaming hare]

I really want to decorate my roads but i cant find any good road markings plugin, some doesnt work like the way i want to

[polar warren]

Pls,Release this to the public , with diagonal frames

[celest moon]

Again please check my plugin list

[gleaming hare]

Where is it

[candid drift]

What are good city layouts for the beginning?

[celest moon]

#town-square message

[celest moon]

Simple grids

[candid drift]

Okey

Like 4x10 etc.?

[slow sundial]

make it 6x6

done

very easy to manage

although i don't suggest using zones to actually make a pretty city

[fervent remnant]

manual build is the way

[exotic zodiac]

I am back

But this time with theotown in pc

[proper pebble]

Anyone wanna play Minecraft with me

[proper pebble]

So is that a yes?

[jovial igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-disappointed-fan-seriously-what-are-you-doing-judging-you-gif-17485289

[celest moon]

No

[proper pebble]

Ok

[jaunty ivy]

6x6 is pretty realistic in terms of size. You can go with larger city blocks if you want as well

[candid drift]

Okey

[jaunty ivy]

The really good benefits of larger blocks is the large amount of accessible space and less road to pay for. A kind of problem is that at the beginning of the game you might have unusable lots at the beginning of the game in the very center, but you can just as easily make an alleyway that cuts through the middle.

[jaunty ivy]

@candid drift

Take a look at this

[candid drift]

Okey

[jaunty ivy]

The smallest rounded distance is 6, and the distances can go all the way to 14 on each side, if you ignore the outliers like New York City and Salt Lake City

[candid drift]

Okey

[jaunty ivy]

Also, another great thing about large city blocks, is the ability to later upgrade your roads so they are wider.

[candid drift]

When should i think about upgrading my roads?

[jaunty ivy]

When two lane roads aren't enough

If you have a main street and you know it's going to be a main street, then you should plan ahead and maybe place a four lane road there immediately

[candid drift]

Okeyokey

Okey

[jaunty ivy]

If you use a small grid like 4x4 (which I don't recommend) if you want to upgrade each road you lose a lot of usable space

What grid size are you thinking?

Remember, you're able to use a large city block and use a temporary access road to make the center usable if you want.

[candid drift]

6x6 like u said or higher like 10x10 with 4-6 lane roads

If 6 lane is possible

[jaunty ivy]

Six Lane roads are kind of useless

[candid drift]

Okey

Then 4 lane

[jaunty ivy]

Cars hardly ever use the center lane

[brave echo]

No no 20 lanes

[jaunty ivy]

You can as well have different areas of the city use different sizes of blocks

Industrial areas might have 12x12 blocks

[candid drift]

Okey

[jaunty ivy]

Low density residential areas might only have 6x4 blocks

[candid drift]

Okey

And high density?

[jaunty ivy]

4 isn't bad when talking about low density areas, because the buildings are small anyway

[jaunty ivy]

You can have blocks ranging from 6 x 6 to 10 x 10

[candid drift]

Okey

[jaunty ivy]

You can have a road going down the center to make the center more accessible in the early game.

Then you have a 10 x 4 and a 10 x 5 block

[candid drift]

Okey okey

[jaunty ivy]

The city block way of building cities can be interesting if you do it right, and it's funny how many people look down on it

[candid drift]

Oh okey i will now build a new city

[jaunty ivy]

K

And you can do more interesting things like diagonal roads and whatever if you want like New York

[zealous oracle]

Trustig the process of my blacklist of buildings

[jaunty ivy]

A standard 3x3 building compared to the different sizes of city grid

Region view

The 6th image is comparing the two New York measurements I got

One is 6 tiles wide and the other is 8 but a tile shorter in length.

[steady lichen]

brainrot plugin

[exotic zodiac]

Okay maaybe i am jusst baad at this

[random marten]

I’ve been thinking about maybe making my own plugins ngl

[jaunty ivy]

I love this power pole plugin

[gleaming shell]

Me to

[cunning olive]

do yall usually build mountain roads on mountains or do you avoid them?

[barren nimbus]

Why do the diamonds look like money

[jaunty ivy]

A plugin

[charred tinsel]

I got a question

so what determines the spawn of airplanes?

[hot crown]

You purchase the planes and assign them to a runway.

[charred tinsel]

ok

[torpid veldt]

It depends on the mountain, sometimes it's better to make tunnels.

[jaunty ivy]

Through a lot of research, the city block size 7x10 is great

It's realistic, it's large enough to handle enough buildings

It's not so small that you spend a lot on roads

With all the different block sizes i grabbed, they are the most common size

[fresh stratus]

Any codes?

[jaunty ivy]

Although, the average size if don't count duplicates, is 9x12

That's not too bad

It's accurate for some cities

The first number represents the smaller length of the pair

[fresh stratus]

Yep

[jaunty ivy]

@fresh stratus quick question, do you use a grid while building your cities?

[fresh stratus]

No

[jaunty ivy]

What do you do?

[tidal bear]

Hi

[fresh stratus]

Make a layout then build sidewalks then buildings

[jaunty ivy]

Can you show the layout?

[fresh stratus]

On the main road for the sidewalks but yes

[jaunty ivy]

Hi

[fresh stratus]

There

[jaunty ivy]

So, you do use a grid?

But a long 4x one

[fresh stratus]

No

[jaunty ivy]

Show it with the buildings transparent

[fresh stratus]

No most of them are different lengths, and sizes

[fresh stratus]

Well I geuss I do

Some what

[jaunty ivy]

Very New York like

[fresh stratus]

But in Shanghai

[jaunty ivy]

Long skinny blocks

[fresh stratus]

4xsomething

[jaunty ivy]

Irl I got several measurements of the heights of New York blocks

One put it at 6 x 29, another at 8 x 28

[fresh stratus]

God damn

[jaunty ivy]

Although, the buildings in New York are a lot larger than the ones in your city

[fresh stratus]

Yea I just made it to day, what do you think of it

[jaunty ivy]

If it works, it works. Some people struggle with making a good city

[fresh stratus]

It does

[jaunty ivy]

6 x 6 seems to be the smallest city block size for downtown areas

[tidal bear]

I dont't understand all you are speaking, but i am here watching... BRUH...

[jaunty ivy]

That size is located in Portland and Carson City

Although, Carson Cities is technically a little bit less than 6 x 6 and Portland's is a little bit larger than 6 x 6

[fresh stratus]

Round up

Or down

[jaunty ivy]

I'm talking about converting real life City blocks into the TT scale

[jaunty ivy]

I round up the nearest whole tile

Both of them got 6x6

[fresh stratus]

Nice

[jaunty ivy]

Salt Lake City on the other hand, has city blocks 21 x 21 in size

[fresh stratus]

I like going to salt lake irl

[jaunty ivy]

Irl, there are access roads to reach into the blocks, but not the main roads

[jaunty ivy]

Nice

[fresh stratus]

Did not know

[jaunty ivy]

Most downtown city blocks are around 7 x 10 in size

7 tiles is the TT equivalent of how far the average person can walk in a minute

[tidal bear]

I don't understand why i don't speak fluent inglish ksksksks

[jaunty ivy]

So irl city planners use this length a lot

But they do go longer on one side

The cities Laredo, Jacksonville, and San Francisco are examples

[fresh stratus]

Oh nice

[jaunty ivy]

But they all have different lengths

People tend to make city blocks way to small in TT

At least compared to real life

It's hard to expand city blocks later, but easier to cut them down

[fresh stratus]

Ik

[jaunty ivy]

If you have larger blocks, you're able to fit larger more dense buildings than you can with 4x blocks

An 8x8 is decent because you can fit 4 4x4 buildings

For less road compared to the same amount in a 4x4 grid system

And most of the time, city blocks are rectangular

That limits unnecessary interactions and less roads further

8x12 isn't an unreasonable block size, and can accommodate a large amount of buildings

[fresh stratus]

I’m trying to build a city that doesn’t have any traffic problems

[jaunty ivy]

Industrial is a pain if you try doing that without changing the traffic density in the settings

[fresh stratus]

Roundabouts is what I’m making and more roads connecting to the main part of the city

Industries on the father side, they just have to go down the road and then city

in the middle down the road city

[jaunty ivy]

Trucks go to commercial zones

Did you read this yet?

It explains the traffic flow

[fresh stratus]

No i haven’t thanks

[fierce spruce]

Hard work referenced (big happy)

[jaunty ivy]

[fresh stratus]

Thanks Demi it has help me a lot

[fierce spruce]

No problem, mate

[jaunty ivy]

@fierce spruce I need your opinion on city block sizes

[fierce spruce]

Big

[jaunty ivy]

7x10 is a good midway realistic size, and common IRL

But not divisible by 4

[fierce spruce]

Actually, I've been playing a lot of SC4, and assuming it's mildly similar to Theotown, my grids might work

[jaunty ivy]

What grids do you use in SC4? (Goated game)

[fierce spruce]

It's a tad hard to explain

[jaunty ivy]

I'm specifically talking about city center/downtown areas

Naturally, residential and industrial districts will have different sizes

Irl Portland has a 6x6 TT equivalent

I might make my standard downtown block 8x12

So I can fit 8x8 buildings, while still being divisible by 4

[fierce spruce]

Try making sense of this

[jaunty ivy]

Ind by Res?

Or is that specifically HT industrial?

[fierce spruce]

The black would be roadways, so if you have SC4 Deluxe or the Rush Hour DLC avenues are very recommended

The green is residential. Six tiles apart from each road, so buildings of at least 3xwhateverthegamechooses cam be built on either side
Blue would be public transit, like metro or busses

Yellow is just to contrast the green. That's park space.

Or the TT avenues

[jaunty ivy]

Oooh I see

So your grid is 6x (whatever)

[fierce spruce]

Yeah

[jaunty ivy]

That's good, makes sense

[fierce spruce]

I typically have more busses than subways

[jaunty ivy]

Subways are expensive

[fierce spruce]

It's surprising efficiency

Not if you have a lot of income

[jaunty ivy]

They are really only worth it for really large towns imo

Buses use infrastructure that is already there

[fierce spruce]

Yeah, but metro is so much better for a city with near 300K

[jaunty ivy]

Ya

[fierce spruce]

And for my Commercial Core of the city, which uses the same grid.. Pretty much bus spam and monorails

[jaunty ivy]

If only the transport system in TT was that in depth sigh

[fierce spruce]

Sadly isn't, but at least transport happiness exists

[jaunty ivy]

About how tall do you say your grid is?

[fierce spruce]

Tall..?

[jaunty ivy]

Length

6 x what?

16?

Rough estimate

[fierce spruce]

Ouh

Usually up to as much as 10, rarer cases hit near 20

[jaunty ivy]

Hmm, interesting

[fierce spruce]

Eh.. More than 10, bit more than 20

[jaunty ivy]

There's no reason why that wouldn't work for TT

Only the transport systems wouldn't do anything

[fierce spruce]

Haven't touched SC4 in a Bit, so I don't really know the sizes

[jaunty ivy]

Fair

[fierce spruce]

But it should work about as well in TT

So long as you also get a decent highway system in

Preferably elevated

[fresh stratus]

Thanks

[red coyote]

Why is there a helipad when I open a present🎁

[candid drift]

That's your gift.

[pliant ingot]

hi

[meager cargo]

i haven't played this game for a whole year and i've decided to play it again. i'd say i did a decent job for a couple of days. but honestly i'm not satisfied with the overall structure and layout with the city, especially with the "cbd" not being "central" and the fact it's far from the hi rise residentals and such. any recommendations on how i could improve?

[torpid veldt]

If you really want to put more detail into it, simply stop zoning so much and start placing buildings manually, it may take a little more time, but you will notice the difference.

Btw u should use the terrain tool, so you can make the terrain flat if it's necessary.

This will ensure that the buildings do not look poorly positioned and will prevent you from using those roads with pillars all around ur city.

But to be a come back after a year, not bad at all, gl, at the end of the day as long as you like it, it's the most important thing.

[dense bolt]

Helluuu please help 🥺

The building be coming up commercial residential and all but no people

[versed pulsar]

Not for me tho @dense bolt

[versed pulsar]

I experience it before

But it's a virus

Like in the game

When the virus kills all the people

It turns back to 0

[toxic whale]

@chri@christophermoore
Have you got the help

[dense bolt]

Nuuuu it just destroyed all my building when I logged back in then I made a seperate town now it's fine finally

[zinc laurel]

UwUwUwUwUwUwUwUwUwU

[silk current]

Herro everynyan. Uh...I wish I were a bird

[gleaming hare]

whats cbd?

is there any working diagonal pavement plugins?

is there more zone plugins other than suburbs, east coast usa and european buildings?

[dense bolt]

Helloo does anyone know why my elevated railway refuses to move?

[slow sundial]

Wym

[torpid veldt]

Share some screenshots, but most likely there might not be a second station to go...

[tulip fulcrum]

How do I increase income?

No cheating

[fervent remnant]

industrial

[tulip fulcrum]

Okay

Commercial and residential?

[torpid veldt]

If you are just starting the city and you are not worried about missile failures, the ideal is the 5 missile silos, they are +50K that will allow you to do whatever you want

[tulip fulcrum]

I don't know what any of that means

I've seen DSA and made the missile thing in sandbox mode but, I have no idea what they are and what they do

Off topic

Uhm

Is it okay to build railways accross the map

It's a big map

[fervent remnant]

i personally dont have a clue what the trains uses are in the game

[tulip fulcrum]

Uhm

[fervent remnant]

they the freaky

[tulip fulcrum]

They reduce traffic right

Also it's just cool

[celest moon]

They're mostly for decorations and providing transportation happiness. They don't affect the number of private vehicles. Basically Trains don't do much unlike in other City Building Simulation games

Same with buses

[fervent remnant]

i just spam taxis

back then

or ridiculously large amount of metro stations

[slow sundial]

Get the monolith addon and place one

But don't touch it

Boom

[torpid veldt]

I am talking about this, it's not from DSA, it's militar.

[fervent remnant]

dont you need like

the Military thing for it

and it cost like diamonds

[torpid veldt]

I imagine so, idk, I bought everything years ago jajaja

[celest moon]

If you're on PC i think it's free

[fervent remnant]

all i ever bought is the underground wires

it seemed the most useful out of all of them

[dense bolt]

The train doesn't move bro

There is no train

Like I put stations and stuff

I already have it in theonia it moves fine but this new map the train doesn't even spawn

😢

[dense bolt]

There's atleast 5

[jovial igloo]

havent opened any of these cities in 2 years

[red coyote]

WTFFFF😭

[torpid veldt]

Without screenshot impossible to know

[torpid veldt]

Just close and reopen the game

[red coyote]

@torpid veldt I did before

[jovial igloo]

how'd this even happen?

[red coyote]

Maybe plugins I have to much plugins

[celest moon]

Restart the game (close the game and reopen the game) it should fix it

It's just a bug

[red coyote]

I'll try again

[celest moon]

And you still haven't finished that region.

[jovial igloo]

plugins take eons to make

[red coyote]

Great heavens it's fixed

It's like ohio💀

Buses drifting

[celest moon]

My god. Haven't seen someone mention OHIO in a long time

[red coyote]

I accidentally used voicechat

If you heard it well I am a 18 year old

It's brainrot

Ohio is brainrot

[jovial igloo]

k. . . ?

[red coyote]

Any good plugins for my Japanese city?

[fervent remnant]

not really

you either

Download the Japanese packs or you go down the path of downloading korean building packs

even Chinese stuff works

[coral sparrow]

Isn't korean and japanese buildings derived from Chinese architecture?

[fervent remnant]

thats the point

[red coyote]

BTW does it look cool

[fervent remnant]

you either use korean/Chinese stuff or you ask for private plugins

[fervent remnant]

it looks good

[jovial igloo]

feel like this is the most outdated icon in the game lol

[dense bolt]

Don't wanna remove the rainforest rebuild it across the whole city just for it to do nothing

Sooooo an example.. sadly doesn't move

I put metro now instead

[slow sundial]

Why did you cover your city in a forest, are you trying to copy my city's feel?

[slow sundial]

Station distance's too short

[jovial igloo]

everyone can surroudn thier city in a forrest yk

dosent mean theyre copying you

[dense bolt]

Nuuuu I'm sorryyy if it came out like that I just added rainforest coz it looks cool...it started with the Nuclear power plant

[slow sundial]

Well i'm just questioning, because he started his own city just after i'm posting my city progress

[slow sundial]

Good point

Where's the nuke power plant though

[dense bolt]

That's an example tho..it usually moves in that distance..but my real setup was from one end to other end about 35-55 ish tiles..that was the distance from one to other station didn't want to remove the forest build railway again for it to do nothing

[dense bolt]

Other island lol wait lemme see if I have the ss

[slow sundial]

It'll work

[dense bolt]

I built it on the hill edge covered with Sakura flower didn't look that good sooo rainforest Godzilla feel

[dense bolt]

It didn't...now I got metro instead so alls good

Next time I do elevated I'll send a ss

Nuclear power plant @slow sundial

[torpid veldt]

I don't see any station there

[dense bolt]

There's 2 right there

[zealous oracle]

Bruh how am I supposed to get it???

[jovial igloo]

Gas Pedal????

[meager cargo]

build an 8 lane highway to it

[zealous oracle]

Like so

[tulip fulcrum]

Join roads

[tulip fulcrum]

Are these buildings from plugins Or diamonds? Or are they ingame

In-game mean, they're free

[zealous oracle]

There from various different plugins and cost diamonds to download

[slow sundial]

Just build a waste processing building

It magically collects trash

[slow sundial]

Wish we had that feature

[slow sundial]

Bro

[zealous oracle]

Didn't see it was full, oops

[dense bolt]

Wassup

[candid drift]

I love your icons remade ❤️

[safe kettle]

it's not his lol

[candid drift]

I mean the firefighters icon, vehicles and deco icon

[safe kettle]

well the fire department has been there ever since it was first added years ago it's not his either lol

I'm honestly not a fan because those don't look like vanilla icons

[turbid path]

Does anyone know how I can get vönarks plug-ins?

They don't have in forum or the store

[south bobcat]

In his discord server obviously.

[turbid path]

I tried and didn't find

Can't find how to join

[south bobcat]

Of course you need to contact someone who is already on the server.

[turbid path]

I don't think if I know anyone

[jovial igloo]

I havent done any remake for the icons ingame??

Looking back, some of my icons looks horrid, im still learning

[lament atlas]

Hello

[ivory lagoon]

Does anyone know where featured cities went? I haven't been active for much time so I'm not that updated on things

[safe kettle]

no idea why isn't it accessible in the archives any more

[ivory lagoon]

It used to be in town hall what is archives

[safe kettle]

might be invisible until you select it in channels and roles

but it still doesn't exist there

[south bobcat]

Discord mobile is weird at the moment.

[lament atlas]

Why?

[ivory lagoon]

Yea I'm on mobile rn

Oh nvm found it it's on the bottom

Thx!

[zealous oracle]

Why my game trying to crash but with my permission???

[wise hare]

Money go brrrrrrr

[candid drift]

How i can improve it?

[torpid veldt]

It looks good so far, keep going, if you want to get into the details, it lacks decoration (people, road deco, some props), but it's going well.

[celest moon]

Nice skyline

[lofty sun]

I'm thinking about going back down the Theo shorts rabbit hole on my channel :p

[lapis stag]

i just noticed if u right click u get this thing, it's fun to play w/

[candid drift]

I have noticed it for like a week now

[lapis stag]

also, i kinda clicked the fill tool on my mainland, and now i gotta wait for it to collect all the tiles lmao

it's an even bigger map too 😭

also, does anyone know the best plugin pak for highways? think for a huge metropolis

[torpid veldt]

Invisible road, Philippines road and Advanced road

[celest moon]

and diagonal overpass

[lapis stag]

kk, tysm

[lapis stag]

i have that one, but thx :)

[dense bolt]

Infinite money hack

[lapis stag]

how did this thing actually turn out pretty good lol. this is gonna be the holding system for coolant at my nuclear plant

[south bobcat]

Just me trying to see how big a region you can make in android.

And it's the size of 18,and 19 will crash. (8GB of ram)

So big that it won't even render 💀

[lapis stag]

naw happened to me too lmao

[south bobcat]

The city which generated won't even load

[lapis stag]

okay, i got this interchange pack with the philipine roads, and it comes with 6 lane interchanges, so I think that's pretty cool and great

looks a little different tho, but it should be fine

actually.. i may not need the roads one now, this thing has all of what I need lol

[torpid veldt]

That's very relative, I just tried

cr:{name:"Testing Large Map",seed:"70182201192620424120002",size:20,maps:[0,0,20]}

With 6GB RAM and it worked pretty well

In any case I imagine there will come a point where if I start building the city it will crash.

[south bobcat]

It's depending on the device personally,as i in the past managed to make a size 26 region.

[nocturne lotus]

Uh
Uptown

Midtown

I need an admin

[south bobcat]

Use the form available in #staff-information

[hot crown]

Good lord, I thought you were someone I know on another server, Monika. Same name and avatar.

[nocturne lotus]

LOL

Which server

[hot crown]

Server for an old RP forum I used to use.

[nocturne lotus]

I may have been there

[hot crown]

Nah, she’s still there.

[nocturne lotus]

Oh wow someone trying to scam me
In dms

[hot crown]

She’s also on my friend list. You are not. 😜

[nocturne lotus]

:/ totally didn't add you

[hot crown]

Not being rude, I promise, but I don’t accept friend requests from people I don’t know personally.

[nocturne lotus]

Awh

[hot crown]

I only added her because we worked together on the forum staff.

[fervent remnant]

don't that look like the new road pack

[nocturne lotus]

yk what's funny
Lying to a scammer they don't know

:>

[hot crown]

I always lead the scammers on for as long as possible. The more they focus on me, the less time they get to work on someone more gullible.

[nocturne lotus]

They think I live in Pittsburgh

Like-
Complete wrong side of the US

[tardy stump]

might wanna move to#general

[hot crown]

Fair, Pwyll.

I think I’m done here, tho.

Gonna finish up my night, then maybe work on the residential area of my city that has been driving me insane.

[hot crown]

@safe halo I think I noticed that when I looked to see what else you’d made. It’s kinda sad we only got the one American football plugin, though. Wouldn’t mind a proper stadium for it.

Used to play it when I was a teenager.

[nocturne lotus]

We need baseball... stuff

like Wrigley Field ngl
I need the exact field in my city

[hot crown]

There are quite a few baseball plugins, actually!

[safe halo]

If I want to expand the Latin Community in the Plugins

[nocturne lotus]

[safe halo]

There are really few Latin plugins

[nocturne lotus]

Oh yeah really few

more rust belt stuff

[hot crown]

I’ve considered making plugins, but I’m not confident enough in my pixel art skills.

[nocturne lotus]

Like steel mills
Or northern Indiana stuff ngl

Like

[hot crown]

One thing that always messes with me when I’ve tried to do pixel art for a plugin is the way the height and width work.

It’s hard to get it right.

[nocturne lotus]

mhm

[lapis stag]

as annoying as doing this is, it looks so good

[versed pulsar]

That's sick how can I do that

[south bobcat]

Just place roads.

[lapis stag]

i'll show u rq

[versed pulsar]

Il wait

[lapis stag]

bruh, the video file is too large. I'll have to upload it youtube and send u a link lol one moment

[lapis stag]

here the video, I sent it here, so anyone else can see it
https://youtu.be/UuuNEc612mA

[jaunty ivy]

Self advertising!!!

||obviously I'm joking||

[iron magnet]

#rubbish-bin

[jaunty ivy]

What? I got pinged here

[gray moss]

Is there any link to GitHub for AOS?

[celest moon]

Check #builder-content i think you can find it in there but i heard that it's broken

[hot crown]

Any advice for improving these roads?

[chilly swan]

Hello

Do anyone know what is the minimum and maximum spawn areas for residential, commercial and industrial buildings?

[torpid veldt]

I don't know if you mean the size of the buildings that spawn trough zoning, they can go from 1x1 to 32x32, but it will depend on the type of building, if it is plugin or not, etc.

You can make grids of 6x6 or 8x8 which is the most common.

[coral sparrow]

What do you all use more often? And which is better?
Single city or Region (merged as one)

[coral sparrow]

Honestly the traffic conditions are already pretty good. But...

For design, it's a different story. Maybe start turning the main road as those cool avenues

[hot crown]

The main road is an avenue, and it intersects a highway that leads to the city proper.

But it’s fine; I ended up deciding to tear down the district and rebuild it more logically.

[coral sparrow]

The other avenue. The one that has space in the middle so you can put trees and stuff

[delicate geyser]

Man, I still can't install theotown even though there's no error already, is just the update log i can't see.

Wait nevermind, there's still that 'Something went wrong' thingy

[hot crown]

I don’t think that works well for an industrial district, personally. But I think I like what I’ve got going now. Thanks for the help regardless.

[dense bolt]

Hellooo

How do you make a harbour

I made one outta accident in a town

I can't do it again sadly

Dunno why

[red coyote]

Modern airport

[coral sparrow]

It's in Industrial T (manual build)
Or dedicated zone that's orange

[dense bolt]

But the Harbor aint buildinnn

Sadge 😢

Why isn't it sending 😭

[slow sundial]

Just build them manually smh

[coral sparrow]

Lack of demand

You need more people

[slow sundial]

just build them manually

[chilly swan]

Is 32x32 a vanilla content or plugin dude? 💀

If it is a vanilla content, then do you have any photo?

[torpid veldt]

Plugin

[chilly swan]

Ok dude

Do anyone have any good road layout for managing traffics 🙏

This is my first town🙏

Road is getting jammed more often in the industrial zone

Between how to get rich industries?

[rigid sable]

Hell yeh

4 am ping

[rigid sable]

Okay so basically

Theres something called a road hierarchy

Pretty simple

A bigger road (in theo town, something like an expressway or highway) is going to have the leas access (space for buildings) but the most capacity (space for cars)

I believe in theotown a lot of the trucks coming out of the industrial buildings go to commercial buildings

So you may want to consider building larger roads between your industrial and commercial zones

[rigid sable]

Also the same thing applies in the opposite direction

A smaller road is going to have more room for buildings but less for cars

[echo cliff]

sigma.

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[rigid sable]

Uhhh

[twilit pivot]

How the f you remove things faster (the burnt down things)

[rigid sable]

Remove tool

[echo cliff]

geliunium or whatever

[onyx prism]

Guys the new update is out?

[twilit pivot]

That thing slow as f

I been 30 minutes and not even half is dowe

Done*

[rigid sable]

How big is your map bro

[real hound]

wen dis becom real

[sinful sigil]

hello! I'm new here

I should probably change my user

nvm no nitro 😭

[real hound]

Its fine