installation-archived

[hollow marsh]

it failed again

[high token]

and date shows April?

[hollow marsh]

Tues Oct 12 15:27:32 UTC 2021

[high token]

date -s "2022-6-4 00:04"

[hollow marsh]

ok

done

do i need to save it?

[high token]

does date now show that or still April?

[hollow marsh]

it shows what you told me to input

its updated

[high token]

reboot

[hollow marsh]

ok it is

How do i exchange with you for your help?

[high token]

there's no need 😄

does it even work now?

[hollow marsh]

lol not seemingly

[high token]

uuurggh

Kernel time again?

[hollow marsh]

yes

i think

[high token]

does date reverted back to April or at least show correct time?

[hollow marsh]

it's odd that even trying to run a basic install of raspbian, that the time is ALSO also and wouldn't update

weird, right?

[high token]

means your network in general has the issue or your ISP is blocking NTP stuff

which also is weird as the ISP wouldn't have a reason to block NTP

[hollow marsh]

hmm

there's no proxy or anything

[high token]

usually this happens if people use DNS blocking like AdGuard in their network and such

plug it in in a friend's house. See if it gets the correct time there 😅

what's date saying now?

[hollow marsh]

it's back to old date

[high token]

Hmm try changing it with that command then leave it as is rather than reboot

although this isn't really a solution

as even if you get it to download what it needs right now there's likely won't be able to update time in the future and you won't be able to update anything

or even keep time correctly

[hollow marsh]

that's wild

I was looking at my router

how do i really test that the rpi is actually getting to the internet?

192.168.1.131

[high token]

what's the IP of your router?

[hollow marsh]

whoops

192.168.1.131

[high token]

that's the IP of what?

[hollow marsh]

router

[high token]

the Rpi?

oooh

that's a weird high number for the router to have

your modem is seperate?

[hollow marsh]

not sure. 😩

lol

There's a wifi router, that signal isn't strong enough so i installed an extender

[high token]

where is the Rpi connected to?

[hollow marsh]

extender. but last night i connected it straight to the wifi router and it was the same thing

[high token]

you say "wifi router" as in a router that also has wifi or you get your internet wirelessly too?

[hollow marsh]

Sorry for my lack of terminology

[high token]

usually you have a cable coming in your house going into a modem/router/wifi combo box

[hollow marsh]

there's a "internet" source network cable plugged into a router that also generates wifi, that wifi signal isn't strong enough so i have an extender which the RPI is connected to.

I'm at a business so i don't deal with the networking much

I just know i have a wifi connection that gives me internet access, it's not strong enough so i got an extender

[high token]

So you connect to the wall with an ethernet cable probably

and you are in a network already and someone above you is managing the main network giving you internet

[hollow marsh]

basically

[high token]

it could be them then causing that

[hollow marsh]

is there a way to test?

[high token]

extenders are usually a bad idea in general

but you said main router also had same issue

[hollow marsh]

yeah

with a hard connection

[high token]

so it's not the extender itself causing it in this case

[hollow marsh]

true

[high token]

well you can ping time.cloudflare.com

so not entirely blocked

but still an issue somehow

I'm running out of ideas at this point

the fact your networking is done in that way it's likely that in my opinion at least

especially if it's business networking

take it home and plug it in your own network and see if it works there

[hollow marsh]

Ok.

What if i changed the dns to similar as what I see on my extender?

[high token]

what's the DNS in your extender?

[hollow marsh]

192.168.1.2

[high token]

is that the other router/wifi probably?

[hollow marsh]

hm? I just opened up my mange network adapter.

I opened the current connection and that was the dns server address

[high token]

It's an IP in your own network so it's pointing to another device

[hollow marsh]

lol

alright

[high token]

so it's telling it go to that device for DNS

[hollow marsh]

shows you how much i know

i see

[high token]

hahaha

put the IP in your browser

[hollow marsh]

it requires username and password

[high token]

takes you somewhere you don't know then I guess?

[hollow marsh]

yeah that's the main wifi router. it then loads to a netgear page where I can input the serial number and get access

Nighthawk(R) X4S R7800

[high token]

Ah so it's your own device then

[hollow marsh]

No. That's not the extender

[high token]

yeah not but I thought the wifi router was also yours

I don't think that changing the DNS server in HAOS to 192.168.1.2 would be the solution but you also have nothing to loose 😛

and your are proficient with nmcli now 😉

[hollow marsh]

Ha!

I don't even know what it stands for!

[high token]

This is Home Assistant yes

[hollow marsh]

i mean nmcli

[high token]

I was referring to that

network manager cli I assume for nmcli. And cli being command line

[hollow marsh]

ahh ok

lol

i get it

boy, this isn't as easy as i was hoping

all the videos and documentation make it seem like it should just work!

[high token]

they don't account for networking problems

[hollow marsh]

that's unfortunate.

I may not be able to overcome my network issues

[high token]

I bet it works in your house though 😛

[hollow marsh]

lol...unfortunately it's highly doubtful.

[high token]

Could ask whoever is managing your network whether they are blocking certain things

[hollow marsh]

i live in apartment building with provided wifi and it's proxied

yeah that's true

[high token]

Ew

[hollow marsh]

yeah

ew is right

[high token]

You have a computer at work I take it. What DNS server does that have?

also 192.168.1.2?

[hollow marsh]

my laptop im on?

[high token]

yeah

[hollow marsh]

how do i find that?

ipconfig?

[high token]

although the whole point of directly configuring our own is that we overcome the DNS server enforced by default

[high token]

Windows?

[hollow marsh]

yes.

[hollow marsh]

yes

[high token]

Right click on the wifi network you are connected to and click properties

at the bottom of the page that loads should have an entry for DNS

[hollow marsh]

yeah it's the same

[high token]

try that but doubtful

it would have been using that already before you tried to manually change it to 1.1.1.1/9.9.9.9

[hollow marsh]

yeah i recall it looked similar

I just type in hwclock

no such file directory

can't open '/dev/misc/rtc' : no such file or directory

[high token]

that person had an onboard batter for RTC

so that command probably doesn't exist in the image for rpi

[hollow marsh]

ok

boy, it's crash and burn eh?

[high token]

Maybe someone else would have a better idea

I've unfortunately run out

[hollow marsh]

Ok well you're super awesome!

I'm going to go eat. I appreciate all your help.

[final kayak]

First time, I was trying wifi connectivity from Rpi from my android mobile hotspot (when main internet connection goes down..as king of temporary backup)

I went to settings>network> wlan0 > scan networks > connect
but it is not connecting (keeps on loading in circle). I have double checked the password and WPA protocol

I wonder whats the proper way?

1. Do i need to set eth0 ipv4 and ipv6 to disabled to use rpi over Wlan0?
2. Also how can i find out the IP of my rpi on mobile wifi hotspot, if its set to DHCP in Wlan0?

Any guide links?

[placid sage]

Hi, new here :)) installed HA on UTM on M1 MAC Mini, but I’m unable to connect to it, after checking my Router WiFi devices list, there is no new device… any help ? …

[safe ridge]

@high token hey, just wanted to let you know that it works like that. scp is not copying the hidden dotfiles. so every hidden file was missing so it triggered the onboarding. packing everything with tar, scp the tar file and unpacking it on the new server works like a charm and i can login now 🙂 awesome! thanks again

[high token]

I'll keep that in mind for the next person that uses scp and can't move their config

[safe ridge]

another solution would be using rsync with the right arguments but when someone is familiar with scp and just wants to use his known syntax packing everything into one tar and copying that is an awesome solution

[shrewd robin]

i have a proxmox vm running HA.. why am i stuck booting into uefi mode or something?

i just get interactive shell

[high token]

It was running fine and now has problems or you're setting up a new VM of HAOS and it's not starting up?

[storm sluice]

wrong boot device set in proxmox?

[bright portal]

I'm having a problem with a Home Assistant Blue reflash install problem. I'm getting this error. on the Preparing Home Assistant screen and cannot access HA.

22-06-04 23:43:49 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'Updater.fetch_data' blocked from execution, no supervisor internet connection
22-06-04 23:43:49 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec

I have no clue how to figure this using the Home Assistant Blue device.

[high token]

Maybe silly but you have ethernet plugged in right?

[bright portal]

I believe so. I plugged it in using different cat6 cables and same result.

[high token]

I was going to suggest trying different cables

do you have a keyboard/monitor plugged in?

[bright portal]

I did but I unplugged the usb keyboard and HDMI cable and then powered it on

[high token]

the Odroid should output video even if already plugged in I believe if that's easy to do for you

[bright portal]

So plug the HDMI back in?

[high token]

and a keyboard

[bright portal]

Okay. Done. I have a ha prompt

At the top is says Waiting for the Home Assistant CLI to be ready

[high token]

that's ok. Then it was ready and you ot the ha prompt

that's the one

if you type login

and then at the # type nmcli

is the top one green?

never mind lol it's late

[bright portal]

Lol

The eth0 is green

Connected to Supervisor eth0

[high token]

and ping 8.8.8.8 say is alive?

[bright portal]

No response

[high token]

hmm doesn't sound as good

and there's definitely internet on that cable?

[bright portal]

The dns server is 192.168.4.1 which I don’t think is right

[high token]

You can manually edit those

If you do nmcli con show

will show you the connection that's green what name it has exactly

[bright portal]

Wait. 192.168.4.1 is the eero gateway DNS

[high token]

is that not right then?

we'll just change that directly to be 8.8.8.8 for example

or 9.9.9.9

[bright portal]

That DNS is right

[high token]

but it doesn't sound like it can ping outside

ping 192.168.4.1

is that alive then?

[bright portal]

Yeah. 192.168.4.1 is alive!

[high token]

but then 8.8.8.8 is not. What about 9.9.9.9 or 1.1.1.1?

are you blocking anything in your router? or your DNS ?

looking up eero looks like a mesh system?

[bright portal]

Yeah. I have mesh but it’s Ethernet backhauled to a unmanaged switch then to the eero

None of the other pings worked

[high token]

and the blue is connected to one of the erros?

[bright portal]

The blue is connected to a switch then the switch to the eero

[high token]

right. And you have a main router too I guess ?

as in where does the main eero gets its network from?

[bright portal]

The main eero is to the modem

I have ipv6 on too

[high token]

do you even need it?

essentially what I'm trying to ask is if you can plug the blue as more directly as possible

whether that is the meain eero or that modem if it's a combo modem/router unit

[bright portal]

Let me restart my eero network

The modem is just a modem

[high token]

if you are not using ipv6 for any devices I'd also try disabling that on your DHCP

[bright portal]

Okay. One minute.

That was the problem

I needed to restart the network and it works. I’m on the account setup page. Thank you!

[high token]

Ah! perfect!

[bright portal]

I now remember that happening once before.

[weak smelt]

Hey guys! Havent updated my HA in a while and want to get the new release. While trying to update, I am encountering a range of issues, it says system not healthy. So, I did a config check and got some warnings. Some I managed to fix. The latest issue im stuck with is:

Configuration invalid

Invalid config for [input_datetime]: expected a dictionary for dictionary value @ data['input_datetime']['env_vars']. Got [OrderedDict([('name', 'GF_AUTH_ANONYMOUS_ENABLED'), ('value', 'true')]), OrderedDict([('name', 'GF_AUTH_ANONYMOUS_ORG_NAME'), ('value', 'SWIHME')]), OrderedDict([('name', 'GF_AUTH_ANONYMOUS_ORG_ROLE'), ('value', 'Viewer')])]. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 15).

My current config in relation to line 15:

input datetime configuration.yaml entry

input_datetime:
both_date_and_time:
name: Input with both date and time
has_date: true
has_time: true
only_date:
name: Input with only date
has_date: true
has_time: false
only_time:
name: Input with only time
has_date: false
has_time: true

Any help would be much appreciated!

[fathom cobalt]

Tried posting the other day. Power blip and HA appears damaged. Can I rebuild a new VM and load a backup

[humble mirage]

You wanted:

1. To ask about integrations in the #integrations-archived channel
2. To use a code share site when posting long blocks like that - see #rules
3. To run ha core check and see what that produces

[buoyant tide]

this might be a strange question, I have installed HA on my new RPI 4. Can I have the rpi to show the UI also not only via an browser?

[humble mirage]

If you installed HAOS, no

[buoyant tide]

ah ok thanks

so I should install HA under raspian?

[humble mirage]

If you want to have a local ui then you have to use the Container install method

[buoyant tide]

ok thank you for your advice

[deft bear]

I got a new phone and having trouble accessing my home assistant instance from it.
It may have to do with the set up two factor authentification.
It is already enabled. How can I receive the codes on my new phone?

[fathom cobalt]

How can I determine if the backup is full or partial from CLI? When I type backup the list runs off the screen. Is there a pause/more/scroll adjustment

[placid sage]

Hi all i tried to install HACS and run: wget -q -O - https://hacs.xyz/install | bash - then i get zsh:command not found: -0 new to home assistant 🙂
I run the SSH & Web Terminal

[deft bear]

Figured it out ... I needed to transfer the Google Authenticator Entry.

[fathom cobalt]

Okay gang. I just "opened" all the backups and none are full. I guess the full one was damaged in the blip.

I can still get to the old machine - Where are all the important files? How can I "move" them to the new server without having to recreate everything? @humble mirage

[high token]

Is Supervisor not working either?

to make a new full backup from cli?
If not then you need every single file from within /config

[high token]

protection mode might be on

[fathom cobalt]

The CLI says the supervisor is working but nothing responds. I can get the files so I will try that.

[high token]

the only thing you won't be getting is any addons

but maybe you can get those from your partials

also how are you getting the files?

if it's scp be mindful as it's missing some hidden files

[placid sage]

Now its working 🙂 I also restart home assistant thanks

[fathom cobalt]

I'm getting them thru Samba/network

[fathom cobalt]

Why when I try to restart the "supervisor" i get "supervisor.restart blocked from execution, system is not running" How do I get it running?????

[sand drum]

Hi!
I've got a HA Blue, is there a SNMP client installed on that one? I'd like to monitor the hardware.

[humble mirage]

No, there's not

[sand drum]

Aaw. Thanks for quick reply.

[olive yew]

can i back up a non-supervised install, and put it on a supervised install?

[humble mirage]

Yes

Hopefully you're not using the Supervised installer, but you can do that

[olive yew]

i don't really have a plans for a host for a supervised installer

is it just a 64x based cpu architecture?

what are the requirements

[humble mirage]

HAOS is fine

Supervised is not

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64#install-home-assistant-operating-system

[olive yew]

i was just hosting it on a docker container in my server

so i would have to run it on an os

[humble mirage]

If you want add-ons and the likes, yes

[olive yew]

interesting

just out of my own curiosity, is there any reason?

like, compatibility wise

[humble mirage]

Reason for?

[olive yew]

"supervised" not being available for docker containers

[humble mirage]

Because the Supervisor is a Docker manager

So, you either have HAOS with add-ons and the Supervisor, or manage Docker yourself and don't

[olive yew]

i guess my question really is, how does a docker container restrict being able to install add-ons

why couldn't that be part of the docker container release

[humble mirage]

No

Add-ons require the Supervisor

[normal quiver]

If I am using some important add-ons right now in HAOS, will I still be able to use them somehow if I go with docker installation? E.g. DuckDNS addon and NGINX

[humble mirage]

No, but you can get the same functionality in other ways

[normal quiver]

I also rely on Eufy_security add-on though

😦

[olive yew]

is there a suggested os to run haos on

[humble mirage]

HAOS is an OS

Home Assistant OS

[crude inlet]

HA OS

Lol

[normal quiver]

got mine in a vm in ubuntu

[olive yew]

damn i'm stupid

i thought it was an app

sorry i was tripping

[crude inlet]

@normal quiver you are still running a virtual machine which runs HA OS

[normal quiver]

yes, correct. Is that the best approach to having Supervisor and use the host machine for other things?

[crude inlet]

Yes

[olive yew]

@normal quiver do you use unraid by chance

i'm trying to figure out how i would install haos

[crude inlet]

You would run HA OS as a VM in unraid

[normal quiver]

no, sorry

[crude inlet]

Or, you run the standalone HA docker app from unraid's app store. No supervisor or addon ecosystem, but unraid's own docker app ecosystem is available and has many of the typical "add-ons"

[olive yew]

that's what i did before. i just want to be able to use supervised

is there an architecture which haos is based off of?

[crude inlet]

If you want that, then use unraid's VM tab

[olive yew]

oh i can't add screenshots here

[crude inlet]

It's Linux. Specifically, based on something called buildroot

[olive yew]

i've been trying to for like a solid 15 seconds lmao

[abstract hearth]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

Command '~images' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[crude inlet]

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/ha-os-on-unraid/59959

That guide should still work

[olive yew]

https://imgur.com/a/vD2pV3e

that's what i'm seeing

[olive yew]

i'll check this out

[crude inlet]

The most general one. Linux

[olive yew]

thank you

https://imgur.com/a/q7BtqbX

it's not pulling up the haos console

oh. i did it wrong. nevermind

did the same thing when i fixed the problem i thought was the problem

is there no iso file for haos?

[crude inlet]

You are using an image file. qcow2

[olive yew]

its still pulling up the same thing as before

which is unfortunate

https://imgur.com/a/SOfVH3A

logs

[wide wind]

I somewhat broke my haos install, if I connect monitor_keyboard to my nuc, where can I find the logs, and are there some commands useful for figuring things out?

[wide wind]

Hm, force shutdown the nuc, and now it's working on reboot. Still if people knows I'm interested in the previous question. For future messups

[high token]

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#home-assistant-via-the-command-line

and using --help with any type of command will give you more info

[wide wind]

Awesome

Is it possible also to open a bash/terminal shell from ha?

[high token]

to do what?

there are SSH addons

also for the HA cli, to remotely run commands rather than directly connecting

[wide wind]

Going ro install one. Mostly to go through directories, and similar, maybe sshcp some files

[high token]

You definitely should. If HA dies they would be your only way to check what's wrong apart from having to conect a monitor

[wide wind]

Yep, will do.

[high token]

SAMBA is also a good one if you want easy access to files. Unless you're fine with SSH for that too

[wide wind]

Got that one in place, but definitely would prefer ssh

[high token]

There are two of them. One is more powerful advanced than the other

[wide wind]

What's the more advanced one?

[high token]

SSH & Web Terminal

[wide wind]

Thanks

[hollow marsh]

morning all!

Thanasis, hello!

It seems manually updating time allowed HA to load on the PI.

There were update available. I clicked the first one and there was an SSL error

certverificationerror

[hollow marsh]

certificate is not yet valoid

[high token]

your time reverted back again probably then. That's the kind of error that shows when time is out of sync

[hollow marsh]

ugh

[high token]

perhaps look into installing (will be a challenge given the issue) Chrony it's an addon for acting as an NTP server for a network but can also set the hosts (HA) time. Maybe you can use an NTP server that does resolve in your network

[hollow marsh]

o.O

what's command to check date again?

[high token]

date

[hollow marsh]

but it's ha>

[high token]

ah login first

[hollow marsh]

gotcha

yes it reverted

jeez

can't i just turn ssl verification off?

😄

[high token]

you have a laptop/computer on the same network as HA right?

[hollow marsh]

yeah

[high token]

windows?

[hollow marsh]

yeah

[high token]

open up cmd there and run ping time.cloudflare.com

see if your laptop resolves it

[hollow marsh]

i get replied

[high token]

whereas same ping in HA fails?

[hollow marsh]

no it says it's Alive!

[high token]

oh

but time is still wrong?

[hollow marsh]

yes

[high token]

I though I remembered you saying the other day it wasn't replying

[hollow marsh]

mmm, if i did that was a mistake

or we misunderstood eachother

[wide wind]

Seems like I was having issues with some aqara zigbee devices disappearing and automation blowing up. I've updated the dongle firmware and things seem better

[high token]

@hollow marsh does time1.google.com ping? I now seem to remember they got changed to google's

[hollow marsh]

says Alive!

is it possible that what I had loaded earlier on my PI is messing with this?

[high token]

as in before HA?

[hollow marsh]

yes

[high token]

no since you entirely reflashed your SD

[hollow marsh]

ok. I wasn't sure if maybe some data or settings could affect the pi itself

so. the riddle continues

when i am viewing the UI in my browser it says it's not secure

[high token]

that part is normal at least

If you go in the UI in settings --> system --> network --> Ipv4 what does it say there

[hollow marsh]

Well....before i answer that......I see the Network image that i would click on. Just below it, it says external access disabled

[high token]

that's also normal 🙂

[hollow marsh]

oh

lol

[high token]

it means you haven't set anything up for you to access HA externally

[hollow marsh]

ok

ipv4 i set to DHCP

[high token]

set firstly ipv6 to disabled

then for ipv4 what's your network range?

like what iP are you now on for HA?

[hollow marsh]

one second

192.168.1.136

that's the ip of RPI/HA

[high token]

let's keep that the same not to complicate things for now

but do you know what your gateway is in your network?

can check what it is in your laptop if not sure

usually it should be the first IP

192.168.1.1 in this case

[hollow marsh]

i used ipconfig

192.168.1.2

[high token]

ok that then

[hollow marsh]

this all seems to be already set in the static section

[high token]

ah right guess it prefills it with what was based on DHCP

and 136 on the IP adrress I take it

and for DNS?

[hollow marsh]

136/24

192.168.1.2, 1.1.1.1

[high token]

make that 8.8.8.8, 9.9.9.9

[hollow marsh]

the DNS right?

I saved it

[high token]

yeah only the last field

then go to Hardware menu and reboot the host

in

[hollow marsh]

ok this was for the ethernet connection, what about the wireless?

don't care?

[high token]

Should be disabled by default

we don't care about it

ethernet is better

[hollow marsh]

ok, rebooting host

[high token]

in the meantime make a sacrifice to the time gods

[hollow marsh]

yes, i found a nectarine

check this out

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/solution-to-a-hanged-preparing-home-installation-screen-during-new-install-on-a-raspberry-pi-4-dns-fix/273803/3

pete_rock
Jun '21
Thanks so much for sharing those detailed instructions! It led me on the right path. However, after applying the settings I had still two DNS servers: 192.168.1.1. AND 1.1.1.1
Only after setting ipv4.ignore-auto-dns to yes it started working. So after the command described in the article:
set ipv4.dns 1.1.1.1
additionally enter:
set ipv4.ignore-auto-dns yes

Good luck and thanks again Matthew!

[short hornet]

hi, how can i enable zha-quirks on haspi? I tried installing it using the ssh&web terminal with pip install, but that just tells me gcc is not available, so I guess I have to do it some other way... I could not find any information on how to do that

or is that something that doesnt work with the raspi image and I should install home assistant "manually"?

[high token]

the ZHA integration has a variable for a custom quirks path I think

[short hornet]

I added the enable_quirks: true to my configration.yaml, but I cannot figure out if that did anything.. checked the logs and my integrations but nothing changed.... I am quire confused how that is supposed to work

[high token]

that is anyway true by default

[short hornet]

is there anything in the gui that tells me that quirks are enabled, or do I have to re-add my devices in order to apply the quirk

oh...

[high token]

I'm not familiar with ZHA. Perhaps better to ask in #zigbee-archived If you have your own quirks you want to apply I'd assume you want custom_quirks_path

[short hornet]

i added that as well, and it doesnt seem to do anything

I have one custom quirk in there, but I cannot see if its being loaded/applied... is ther a log file or some "hello world" quirk I can use to see if it is working in general?

[high token]

sorry have no idea. Check in #zigbee-archived for that

[short hornet]

k.. thanks

[hollow marsh]

Think i should try this command?

[high token]

I take it that means nothing changed and time is still wrong?

[hollow marsh]

lol yes

[high token]

I've officially run out of ideas 😬

[hollow marsh]

oh and now the UI isn't coming up

lol

so the Dns change wasn't good

[high token]

maybe that was us setting the static IP

[hollow marsh]

shiza

in cli i can do set dns "1.1.1.1"

should work, right?

[high token]

it has to be within nmcli though

[hollow marsh]

dang

[high token]

that's where those commands he mentions are from

so have to do that nmcli con show etc and `edit first

[hollow marsh]

ok, so i'll follow that and we should be back to square zero

[high token]

you should now see that it's a different one green since we changed it from UI

[hollow marsh]

it's always been green though

[high token]

the same one still?

[hollow marsh]

i'll check. I'm gonna eat but ill be back!

[hollow marsh]

how do i go from # to ha?

[grand pivot]

You just start your command with 'ha', or type 'exit'

[hollow marsh]

thank you

[weak smelt]

My apologies.. I am new to this discord. Didn't even realise this was a integration issue

[hollow marsh]

hey Thanasis

so we got it into the mud

How do we use cli to get it back online?

thansasis?

[high token]

still lost the UI? 😅

[hollow marsh]

lol yes

[grand pivot]

Thanasisiseus

[hollow marsh]

It has even funked up my laptop

i had to disconnect the ethernet cable

[high token]

Is that a combination of Thanasis and Theseus?

[high token]

How is that even possible?

[hollow marsh]

lol i don't know

[high token]

your network at work is funky

[hollow marsh]

possibly

😦

but now we've made it worse

how to revert

[high token]

does nmcli con show list only one connection?

I would expect two

[hollow marsh]

3 connections

[high token]

what names?

[hollow marsh]

First is the HOAS Defult

second is Supervisor Eth0

third is Supervisor Eth0

[high token]

nmcli con delete "name"

use that to delete last two

only keep HAOS default

[hollow marsh]

ok done

[high token]

reboot

[hollow marsh]

ok i'll connect cable again

[high token]

that would be necessary yes 😄

before rebooting

[hollow marsh]

yes yes

Network manager script dispatcher service

never seen that before

ok it rebooted

[high token]

see if the UI is up

but double check the IP

it could have changed

[hollow marsh]

192.168.1.2

[high token]

that would be the DNS server you said

[hollow marsh]

no ui

it's listed under ipv4 address: 192.168.1.2

gteway 192.168.1.2

method: auto

nameservers: 192.168.1.2 & 1.1.1.1

[high token]

then definitely not right

[hollow marsh]

whoops

lol you're correct

192.168.1.136/24

[high token]

but does it load?

[hollow marsh]

no

[high token]

with 8123 right?

[hollow marsh]

yes

need to get it back to dhcp minimally

[high token]

what about 4357?

[hollow marsh]

right?

that work

[high token]

then networking is fine

it's HA

check ha su logs and ha core logs

[hollow marsh]

what do i look for?

[high token]

if HA has actually started

did you even set up anything in the UI?

[hollow marsh]

no

i guess i could just reload it

[high token]

it would be way faster than troubleshooting this

reflash

[hollow marsh]

haha

My real name is Thor btw

[high token]

[hollow marsh]

haha nice

i am just trying to build a simple wifi camera setup using esp32-cam boards and home assistant

the 5 minute videos made it seem like making a pb&j sandwich

ok it's booting

[high token]

Yeah it's not meant to be this complicated. But of course a normal network is assumed in all guides

[hollow marsh]

that makes sense

ok i updated the data and per the UI it's downloading the docker

maybe i just update everything and never touch it again

at least i won't have to worry about auto updating and then being screwed

just like now.

[high token]

what did auto update? 😛

once you are in try to install the chrony addon by the way before time changes again

[hollow marsh]

good idea!!!!

We'll have to document this

[high token]

but if you can't keep time it won't be great experience in general aside from not being able to update things

[hollow marsh]

yeah, really the main reason for getting home assistant is for this camera setup

I'm not even trying to automate anything

OMG

i created user name and password and now it says it's incorrect

.<

[high token]

how?

[hollow marsh]

don't understand

[high token]

doesn't it log you through after creating it? it asks you to log in first?

[hollow marsh]

then i went to addons and it then asked for login credentials

You're about to give http://homeassistant.local:8123/ access to your Home Assistant instance.

[high token]

huh?

[hollow marsh]

that's the message on the screen

[high token]

yeah that's the message always

I meant weird that it asked you to log in after already being logged in

were you connected with the IP or with the .local?

[hollow marsh]

.local

[high token]

https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/locked_out/ 😅 I guess

[hollow marsh]

yep

trying it

the universe must not want me to do this

[high token]

it really seems like the case

[hollow marsh]

whoah

whoah

i just unplugged it and plugged it back in, it booted, i checked the date and it's in present time

😲

[high token]

although you definitely shouldn't be unplugging it

[hollow marsh]

😦 sorry

it froze on me

i input a command incorrectly and it froze

[high token]

do you have your user/pass now at least?

[hollow marsh]

nope

[high token]

lol

[hollow marsh]

To reset a user’s password, via console
If you know the username, but not the password and you can access the Home Assistant console and use the command below:

Connect a keyboard and monitor to your device.

auth reset --username existing_user --password new_password

under ha>?

[tulip moat]

is there a way to re-run a database migration? Mine failed for some reason.

[hollow marsh]

do in input that code under ha or #?

[high token]

ha >

[high token]

I would assume it would try again after a restart

but no idea really

[tulip moat]

It doesn't. It's complaining about a missing index when trying to access the logbook

sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (MySQLdb._exceptions.OperationalError) (1176, "Key 'ix_states_last_updated' doesn't exist in table 'states'")

[tulip moat]

Ok well. I just ran this in my mariadb instance:

CREATE INDEX ix_states_last_updated ON states (last_updated)

and it worked. I am seeing the logbook now. Not sure, if other things are missing. I wish there was a way to run db migration manually after it fails. I understand it's supposed to happened automatically when ha starts but it's not happening for me.

[hollow marsh]

ok thanasis

i did the ignore auto dns

it seems to have solved it

somehow

i installed chrony

[high token]

Maybe don't configure it yet and let HA run and see if time is still the same later on. Or shutdown the Pi and leave it unplugged for a while and then see if it get's proper time when booted up again

[amber iron]

not possible to change the icon of utility meter?

yaml configured

[daring idol]

When starting to build a smart home. Do you move the Devices to tayg or smarthome app to get them in one place?

[little yarrow]

hi, i have HA setup in a docker container (the docker host is a VM) but am sick of not having addons, how hard would it be to migrate my devices, integrations, automations and other settings to a dedicated HAOS VM?

[slate umbra]

Why are you sick of not having add-ons? You can install almost anything .. and even more than in HA as a container. Also in HA these are containers ... maybe provide an example of you what you see missing. Note that I donot know all cases so you may have found a good one 🙂

In other words: I love Docker

[little yarrow]

its more just general frustration, someone will tell me about a great thing to use with HA, i ask where to go to install it, and they say "just go to the addon store"

[slate umbra]

ah..yes

even if you are docker-savvy ( a bit) then you will need a bit more time to set it up ...true

[little yarrow]

i wont be getting rid of docker as i have several other things on it too so i can still use it to run things that interface with HA but are not addons

also my docker VM is a bit unstable at the moment so moving HA off will either fix the problem (if it is HA crashing) or stop HA going down when the VM crashes

[slate umbra]

so if it is the ease...then I cannot else but give you right

but mine is stable since a year and I never ever regret the container setup, nothing till now that is missing for me

[little yarrow]

also i love docker too, just the convenience of the dedicated VM sounds nice and since i am still running docker i dont loose anything

[slate umbra]

ok.... well... I cannot help you to migrate as I have never done this but from what I read this is 'just' loading the backup when installing it....sounds a bit too easy for me but never tried it 🙂

The backup you can create from container and in fact it seems to be just the config (persistent) part

but when setting up the new HA, when creating your first user, you can point to that

but I guess you will have some issues depending on what other containers you integrated and 'how' (host or not, etc.)

[little yarrow]

thats what i found too, and also what i thought. im wondering what that misses that i wont think of for a month till some rare automation breaks

[slate umbra]

normally I would say to never change (from) a running system, but you mentioned to have issues ...

e.g. I tried to migrate my mariadb from nuc to nas

[little yarrow]

agree but as you say, im having some issues

[slate umbra]

seemed straightforward but for some stupid reason the backup did not restore all

no errors

nothing

so stuck to the NUC

[little yarrow]

failure is annoying but silent, errorless failure is just a slap in the face

[upbeat wharf]

So I installed Armbian OS on my Cubietruck and successfully ran Home Assistant in a docker container. Armbian is a Linux Distribution, so there is my question coming up. Can I install Home Assistant Supervised on it?

[humble mirage]

No

https://github.com/home-assistant/architecture/blob/master/adr/0014-home-assistant-supervised.md is quite clear about it only supporting Debian Bullseye itself, no derivates

[upbeat wharf]

Ok cause I tried It and it only shows the Preparing Screen

Thank you

[daring idol]

@little yarrow @upbeat wharf https://youtu.be/FdzPJ8LhAx4

Easy follow and a accent

[humble mirage]

If you install it on anything other than Debian Bullseye you've got a broken install that's unsupported

If you're installing something on a Pi, there's no reason to use Supervised

[daring idol]

It’s just a how to. He could be using Ubuntu. But you are making me question if I should have 😂😂

[humble mirage]

Nobody should

This installation method is for advanced users only
Make sure you understand the requirements

Almost nobody bothers reading the requirements, or if they do they ignore them, and then complain later when they've got problems

[daring idol]

What kind of problem are we talking about? If you don’t mind me asking

[humble mirage]

Everything from not being able to upgrade HA/Supervisor/other things, through to the install just breaking

[wide gale]

So nothing really critical right

[humble mirage]

HA Supervised is only supported on Bullseye for a reason

[daring idol]

Oh I’m good then if my pi is on 64 bullseye

[humble mirage]

If it's actually Debian bullseye

Not Raspbian/Raspberry Pi OS

[daring idol]

I spent a whole day figuring out how I want to lay out this raspberry pi 😂😂 and but I did notice it getting sluggish but I couldn’t go with the OS install because I wanted this pi to be a home dashboard and I couldn’t get a gui with it.

Will my back up transfer over if I switch?

[humble mirage]

If you switch to HAOS, yes

Also, local GUI means you've ignored the requirements, if you even read them...

[daring idol]

I lightly skimmed, ill try anything once and it did work.. I just got carried away with opiotions

and wanted an easy way to install things

[humble mirage]

Then switch to HAOS 😉

[daring idol]

I tried forever to get a browser on it for a dashboard/hub but couldn’t. So I installed it on a VM on a different computer had docker on it but then I found out that way to install it so I figured I could just have everything on one raspberry pie and a UI

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZzZpRx7Mg1s?feature=share

[humble mirage]

You can, but not with HAOS or Supervised

[daring idol]

My end goal

[humble mirage]

You can do that with Container, or just with a Pi connected to the display, and HA running elsewhere

[daring idol]

Yeah I thought you could only install hacs with supervisor so that’s why I went that way

Ok slowly getting it lol

[humble mirage]

HACS is a downloader for custom components and cards, it has nothing to do with the Supervisor

Oh, and the HACS FAQs and docs even explain that

[daring idol]

Yeah I figured that out so I’m making a VM with BookStack and writing everything that I do down so I’m not hunting for commands or looking at how I did it

I have been doing installs for like 3 days lol trying different dashboard and apps. I even made a magic mirror but it just wasn’t what I wanted

Thank you for your input though lol

If you wouldn’t of said anything I probably would’ve ran into some issues

[humble mirage]

The two sane install options are HAOS and Container

Core is sometimes the only choice that works

Supervised is always a trap

[daring idol]

Ya I was kind of hoping that you could use the add-ons that you install off of your home net work when you register lol

[lofty gorge]

Benötige Unterstützung - Installation auf Pi4 mit Docker

[upbeat wharf]

I installed Home Assistant Supervised on my Rpi 4 2 weeks ago and there were no problems

[humble mirage]

Did you pick Debian Bullseye?

Did you read and follow the requirements, or are you using it so you can run other software outside of add-ons?

[placid sage]

Someone here who got HA OS running on M1 Mac Mini on UTM ?…

[upbeat wharf]

It's running on Retropi OS and I need the GUI and wanted to test supervised

Used docker before

[humble mirage]

#installation-archived message
Called it

[crude inlet]

Installing is not the issue. Maintaining it is.

[humble mirage]

it not breaking under you is also an issue

[upbeat wharf]

Well until today there were no problems and if there is anything coming up I might just switch to OS with my backups

[formal blaze]

hey, i have just installed home assistant on my synology using docker and then figured out i couldnt install add ons through this way

is there any way to get add ons this way?

or is there another way i should install it on the nas?

[storm sluice]

can it run vms?

then maybe install hasos in a vm on the nas

[formal blaze]

im gonna try it

i hope itll work out since home assistant os runs on docker right?

[high token]

HAOS is an OS

It doesn't run on docker, same way Windows or any other OS can't run on docker

HA and the addons inside run on docker

[formal blaze]

ahh yeah gonna try it with vmm tomorrow ty

[simple iron]

Ubuntu can run in docker

[dawn flame]

Learn to run the items you want in Docker. Whatever you need, it's probably already out there with easy instructions to get going. Docker makes this all really easy....

[daring idol]

how do I install someone elses config? I want to try out https://github.com/JamesMcCarthy79/Home-Assistant-Config but it boots in safe mode

[grand pivot]

you do not do that

[daring idol]

?I can only take pieces

[grand pivot]

configurations are like fingerprints, nobody's are the same

you should configure what you need based on the documentation for whatever you need

configurations can be used as inspiration, but unless you're buying that guy's house with everything inside, you're on a fool's errand

[flat drum]

@daring idol You'll be more annoyed at how nothing works since you don't have the same things than you are impressed with someone else's config.

[daring idol]

I figured I could delete and add what was needed,

[grand pivot]

if this is your first experience with HA, you will regret that after the first week of frustration and wish you'd just started from scratch

[flat drum]

If you're looking for some inspiration blueprints are a way folks share awesome ideas and automations in a way that lets you easily select your devices to run within those ideas...

[daring idol]

and I seen a video how you can branch from gethub and add it into your own home

[grand pivot]

just do not do that

that is a terrible video

[daring idol]

thanks for the input Im mainly looking for a dashboard or a glance board https://youtube.com/shorts/ZzZpRx7Mg1s?feature=share when you first start with home do you install all of your smart things? and log in to intergations? like apple or samsung? then start building?

[unkempt meteor]

Hello everyone, I am new to home assistant and I am installing it, however I got this text in the nuc where I installed home assistant, (ha > [3202.499543] systemd-coredump[4441]: process 113 (systemd-journal) of user 0 dumped core) and in the page where I am connecting through the ip http://homeassistant.local:8123/ it has been an hour and it does not advance.

[tranquil shard]

Is there a documented case of someone getting an mSATA boot disk to work with RPi 3B+?

[humble mirage]

With what OS? HAOS?

[latent thistle]

on HAOS how can I check what is consuming all the space? Using 32GB SD card, database is just 1.8GB and all backups are stored on separate NAS

[midnight steeple]

Hi, I'm using on my debian server VLANs, and default installation of homeassistant-supervised.deb select VLAN2, but I want to use VLAN8. Where to change it permanently ?

[info] http://homeassistant.local:8123 or using the IP address of your
[info] machine: http://192.168.2.5:8123
[warn] A reboot is required to apply changes to grub.

[buoyant tide]

how to fix this " (root) Additional property homeassistant is not allowed"

in docker

[high token]

@buoyant tide I'm assuming that's from docker-compose?

[latent thistle]

@high token anyway to check storage usage on HAOS?

[odd lark]

:dynoError: The Tags module is disabled in this server.

[fiery thorn]

hey everyone, I'm want to upgrade my installation. currently running Home Assistant 2021.1.5. I believe I installed Hassio in a docker container. (it's been a long time). I cannot seem to find steps to upgrade. Can someone point me in the right direction?

[abstract hearth]

The topic of this channel is:

Discussion about how to install Home Assistant, and issues with the install itself. Make sure to mention which type of installation you have. If you're not sure of your installation method, check under Info in the System Health Card (https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/info/)

Command '.topic' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble mirage]

Click the link there and see what it tells you your Installation Type is

Then pick the matching one from https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/ on the right

There you'll see how to update

[fiery thorn]

404: Not Found

[humble mirage]

Then you don't have the my integration

-> Settings -> Info

[high token]

System Health

[latent thistle]

It only mentions database size, and percentage used etc doesn't mention which add-on are consuming the space

[high token]

Under HA Supervisor section it's listed there

[latent thistle]

My database se is 1868mb, SD is 32Gb and it is 96%filled 🤦‍♂️

[fiery thorn]

@humble mirage what's the best way to share a screenshot with you?

[abstract hearth]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

Command '~images' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble mirage]

Images of text are horrible though, please don't

[abstract hearth]

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

• https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://www.codepile.net/ (select YAML as the language)
• https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

Command '~share' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble mirage]

Share text as text using one of those

[fiery thorn]

https://dpaste.org/NZQL9

[humble mirage]

installation_type: Home Assistant Supervised

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/supervised/

Sounds like you should be considering a swap to Home Assistant OS in the near future

[fiery thorn]

ok.

is it possible to port my config over

or is this from scratch

[humble mirage]

Yes

Take a backup, download the backup, upload it to the new install

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/supervised/#making-a-backup-from-the-ui

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#restoring-a-backup-on-a-new-install

[latent thistle]

Backup, move, restore. Three simple steps

[latent thistle]

How long à on boarding is expected to take tried to install on SSD, already 46min passed still stuck on on boarding.

[humble mirage]

No idea

I've never used HAOS, never restored a backup on it

[fiery thorn]

interesting, i don't have the UI for backup anywhere

[humble mirage]

You should have, though it did move at one point and it's possible that you're looking in the wrong place

The downside of running Supervised is that it's easy enough for it to be in a broken state where it won't update

[fiery thorn]

yeah i'm going to switch over. Maybe I'll just start from scratch.

[latent thistle]

Can't do a CLI backup?

[fiery thorn]

let me check

[crude inlet]

@latent thistle if you were having an issue with space, how big were your backups?

[buoyant tide]

@high tokenyes indeed

docker compose

[high token]

what's the first two lines of your file?

[buoyant tide]

a minute i will check

[abstract hearth]

@buoyant tide posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/ugisidasul

@buoyant tide [Rule #6](#rules message): Please do not post codewalls (text longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://dpaste.org/ (pick YAML for the language), https://www.codepile.net/ (pick YAML for the language), or https://paste.debian.net/ (pick YAML for the language).

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

Command '~codewall' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[buoyant tide]

I included the whole thing

[humble mirage]

Line 15... you're missing spaces

[raw hedge]

Depends on your download speeds, if your internet is not total crap…. If it does not set itself up in an hour.. change your routers dns

Always a dns issue 😂

[humble mirage]

services:
  portainer:
...
  homeassistant:
^^

[buoyant tide]

@humble mirageok thank you, I will check to see if that helps

id did not help

it*

[abstract hearth]

@buoyant tide posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/yoculebafe

[buoyant tide]

if I did correct

[abstract hearth]

@buoyant tide [Rule #6](#rules message): Spam will not be tolerated, including but not limited to: self-promotion, flooding, text walls (longer than 15 lines) and unapproved bots.

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

For sharing code or logs use https://dpaste.org/ (pick YAML for the language) or https://www.codepile.net/ (pick YAML for the language).

Command '~rule6' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble mirage]

You've been here long enough by now @buoyant tide to know not to post codewalls. Please stop

[buoyant tide]

so sorry

apoligize

[humble mirage]

And no, you didn't fix it

[buoyant tide]

I did not? oh

[humble mirage]

homeassistant:
    container_name: homeassistant

[raw hedge]

You are defining a home assistant service, thus it needs to be under services via indenting

[humble mirage]

It's a YAML file, the same rules apply for YAML there as in HA's config

[buoyant tide]

@humble mirage i did that, or I cant see that I did not ?

[raw hedge]

https://github.com/miwagner1/k8s-at-home/blob/main/stacks/homeassistant/base/deployment.yaml

Yaml can be scary

[humble mirage]

Use a code share site - share the compose file correctly this time

Maybe with your rush to post it in the channel you introduced a problem with your paste

[raw hedge]

http://www.yamllint.com

[abstract hearth]

YAML is the mark up language used by Home Assistant, consistent indenting (two spaces per level) is key. Here is a primer, and this explains multi-line templates. For validating YAML see YAML Lint.

Command '~yaml' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[raw hedge]

Helps to validate sometimes

Many times I have had to check my yaml with some of my larger files

[buoyant tide]

https://pastebin.com/DnqXF2gq

[humble mirage]

https://www.codepile.net/pile/48Yynv85

You're still missing those spaces

homeassistant:
    container_name: homeassistant
``` ❌

  homeassistant:
    container_name: homeassistant

[raw hedge]

You may want to use something like visual studio code to help with the indentations https://images.app.goo.gl/cN45Tfm7TESZWNR7A

It’s nice to have something to help visualize things

[latent thistle]

Never faced this issue before. Over a hour and still on boarding

[raw hedge]

Try changing your router dns

[buoyant tide]

@humble mirage just a friendly suggestion, next time use the proper term, spaces and indenttations

two different things

[humble mirage]

What... the fuck ... is wrong with you?

[raw hedge]

Sometimes container registries go into an abyss dns wise

[buoyant tide]

@humble mirage Thank you very much for your time and help

[humble mirage]

"Thanks for helping me, you used the wrong words"

[latent thistle]

Alraedy using Google DNS

[humble mirage]

Yeah, you can go and as the saying goes "boil your head"

[raw hedge]

Try 9.9.9.9

[buoyant tide]

@humble mirage what is wrong with you, what did I say wrong?

[humble mirage]

Not "thank you" but "you used the wrong word"... no the fuck I didn't

Spaces, you know the space bar on the keyboard

[buoyant tide]

are you so proud of your self that you cant take a friendly advice?

[humble mirage]

They're called spaces

https://tenor.com/view/problematic-stressed-smh-oh-dear-oh-boy-gif-16135695

[raw hedge]

I’m just using fancy words since I use Kubernetes

🤷

[buoyant tide]

ok so why do you need to svear at me? what have I done to you?

could you just say that I am wrong

[humble mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/james-spader-desperate-help-the-blacklist-you-need-help-gif-12305438

[buoyant tide]

this is rude: What... the fuck ... is wrong with you?

[latent thistle]

Don't mess with Tinkerre. Just move on

[buoyant tide]

@humble mirage good that you see that your self

I have done notting wrong, but hey by all mean kick me our of your precious server, and go to your mother and get the milk you did not get when you was a baby. Sure you have a brain damage

[high token]

Let's just move on

does your compose work after all?

[buoyant tide]

I am sick i tired, of this retarded person. kids that think they are so good

@high token yes id did work

[high token]

Tinkerer is older than the earth itself actually

[raw hedge]

I guess I’m a child paying a mortgage…

[high token]

At least you're paying for it

[raw hedge]

I would hope so as my name is on it

[high token]

I have 5 years worth of tuition fee loans but thankfully the UK is too kind and hasn't asked their money back yet

[raw hedge]

Yahh… I’m afraid to see my wife’s student loan when she goes off to get her Physician Assistant degree

Too expensive to become a doctor in the states

[north lily]

Debian 11 is still the recommended distro ?

[humble mirage]

Depends on what you're planning on doing with it

[north lily]

run on intel nuc

[humble mirage]

If that's to run Supervised it's the only supported option, and probably a bad life decision

If that's to run Container it's a great choice

[north lily]

I need to reinstall my OS because I was lame and installed i686 version lol

yeah as a container

[main prawn]

@buoyant tide As an outsider looking in, it does look like you were a little bit too sensitive. @humble mirage was being patient an trying to help. You didn't have to blow up when he was just being frustrated at you not getting it. Anyways, just calling it out from the outside looking in.

[latent thistle]

Don't tag people, it is against the server rules....

[raw hedge]

Debian 11 is great

[crude inlet]

Excessively tagging is annoying. Using common sense when tagging is fine

[raw hedge]

Does not have Ubuntu’s bullshit support marketing… 10 years of support….. only if you pay us, otherwise it’s 3

I may be salty about Ubuntu core :p

[north lily]

ty creating my media on debian 11 then, but amd64 this time... not i386...

[fiery thorn]

for home assistant OS install, do you recommend virtualbox or kvm?

[humble mirage]

KVM

[toxic storm]

Hey. I'm stuck.
Its been a year since I last use HA (on Pi)
When starting up it displays some info (network, version, URL) but I cant get into it. The pi is connected to the router.

[humble mirage]

You connect to the web interface on port 8123

[toxic storm]

via the ip? tried it but no joy

[humble mirage]

What if you try port 4357 instead?

The IP you're trying is an IP on your network, with the same first three sets of numbers as your computer?

[toxic storm]

jip. /24 subnet
4357 I get a response (Home Assistant observer)

[latent thistle]

restoring backup error "Upload failed
400 Bad Request"

[humble mirage]

What does it say there?

[toxic storm]

Home Assistant observer
Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy

[humble mirage]

Ok, that's positive at least

[toxic storm]

jip 🙂

[humble mirage]

Did you previously set up the SSH add-on?

[fiery thorn]

@humble mirage working through the kvm install now. for Step 2 networking, i'm not very familiar. I don't have netplan installed, unsure how to proceed for the bridge

[humble mirage]

Can't help, sorry

[toxic storm]

Cant remember if I did. Its been more than a year since I used it.

Yes I did. Let me try and connect

Connection refused 😦

[humble mirage]

Well, if you've got a console connection, try a reboot?

[toxic storm]

ok

[high token]

also check ha su logs for errors first and also ha core logs

I'm surprised it's not marked it unsupported given the outdated OS version

[toxic storm]

Yeah. Its more than a year. Would like to update it and get it going again

[high token]

Also had you set up SSL certificates ?

[toxic storm]

ha su logs only addon items are orange (stuff that doesnt exist)

ha core logs all red :/ TimeoutError and so on.

Yes. Ive used duckdns before

[high token]

have you been trying to connect with https:// then?

http would be refused

[toxic storm]

Yes

Wait, dont i need port forward. 🤔
let me do that. its for 8123?

[high token]

port forwarding is for accessing it from the outside

you're are using the local IP

[humble mirage]

https://192.168.0.42:8123/

[toxic storm]

right

[toxic storm]

This work. So I did not use https with ip, only url

Thanks both for your assistance

[humble mirage]

#installation-archived message

[high token]

make a backup of your stuff first and download it so you have all your yaml etc

[toxic storm]

good idea

[heavy sleet]

another day another problem with my HA install

cant open any of my addon's

' Unable to load the panel source: /api/hassio/app/entrypoint.js. '

logs are also half broken

it thinks my system is in shutdown state

https://ibb.co/HYGvfxb

i've now physically power cycled the PI

lets wait and see if it works again

it functions again....

no clue why it did this

[latent thistle]

Why doesn't HA recognize partial backups?

[crude inlet]

@latent thistle what do you mean

A backup is a backup. You can "partially restore" any full backup.

[latent thistle]

On my setup it is not recognizing the partial backups. When I try to upload from GUI it give bad request 400 error

When I uploaded via sambaa to backup folder only full backup was being recognized

@crude inlet i am using samba backup add on to create automatic backups. Recently I changed configuration to exclude some add-ons. Since then backs are named as Samba_Backup_Partial_Backup_2022_05_26_04_00.tar

Backup with partial in name are not being recognized

[crude inlet]

Are you reloading the backup page using the 3 dots?

[latent thistle]

Yes I did

Tried reload no effect

https://ibb.co/mq94772

See only one backup is being shown which was the last full backup

[crude inlet]

And is it visible in the folder?

In the smb share?

Check the supervisor logs and see if it is complaining about any backups

[latent thistle]

Yes I did upload the recent backups through samba share aka windows network share

This full backup was also copied with other partial backups

Let me check logs

supervisor.backups.manager] Found 4 backup files
22-06-08 02:19:53 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.backups.backup] Can't read backup tarfile /data/backup/Samba_Backup_Partial_Backup_2022_05_31_04_00.tar: unexpected end of data
22-06-08 02:19:53 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.backups.backup] Can't read backup tarfile /data/backup/Samba_Backup_Partial_Backup_2022_05_17_04_00.tar: unexpected end of data

@crude inlet found these errors

[crude inlet]

That's why they aren't showing up. Were they allowed to complete?

[latent thistle]

My backup run @4am so interface at that time

Did faced storage issue in last week or so

[unkempt meteor]

hello @everyone I was installing home assistant OS, I thought it worked like when you install windows you install the OS on a usb and the system is installed on the computer disk, from what I understood yesterday is that it does not work like that, is that the OS is installed on the USB, I can confirm please, I'm installing home assistant on a NUC

[high token]

You're new so just a reminder in general not to use tags that target whole groups. Thankfully that tag is disabled otherwise it would target all users in the server and that would be thousands 😅

HAOS should be installed in the internal drive so in a NUC in its SSD

the image itself is the OS image. It's not an installer that then lets yo select where it should be installed on the device

Either you take the SSD out to flash (adapter or put in another system) or you boot up another live OS with a USSB stick and use that to flash the drive

[unkempt meteor]

Thank you very much @high token , can you explain me a little more about this second option you mention "or you boot up another live OS with a USSB stick and use that to flash the drive". What installation method do you recommend to install home assistant? I have the NUC and it comes with windows.

[high token]

If you won't be using the NUC with Windows I'd install HAOS

meaning bye bye Windows and the OS would be HAOS

optionally keep the Windows key if you want to move the subscription elsewhere

To do that you need to flash the SSD. If you had a sata to usb adapter you could take the SSD out and connect it to your computer like that to flash it

if you don't you'd boot a temporary OS via a USB (e.g. Ubuntu) and use it to flash the drive

[unkempt meteor]

do you know where I can get a manual or tutorial for this last thing you say, "if you don't you'd boot a temporary OS via a USB (e.g. Ubuntu) and use it to flash the drive"?

[crude inlet]

You would flash ubuntu to a usb key, boot from usb. You would be in "live" mode, running from the usb. Then download the HA OS image, and then open the "disks" utility and flash the HA OS image to the right disk

It would appear as though you were restoring an image to the disk. Same thing

Then you would shut down, remove usb key, and power up the NUC

[unkempt meteor]

thanks

[latent thistle]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64/

https://youtu.be/002fLC-k6Aw @unkempt meteor

[latent thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrKQkI53xys proxmox method

[molten atlas]

Hi, on my homeassistant desk where I make my training I did get an error who I tried to solve without results. the error is that the html homepage give me a mesage as "xx.xx.xx.xx:8123 did not send data" . Any help fortis item is wellcome
So I decided to start a new Hassio virtualbox.
now I wish to recover the ESPhome devices, for this reason I'm looking for a way to copy/move the files through both the command line interfaces. How can I do it?
I'm not new in linux enviroment, but here I have to hope in the friends help.
If anyone can help me is welcome . cheers

[nocturne kindle]

I wonder how can i check bluetooth functionality on my haOS laptop ?

it's running nothing but haOS.

[humble mirage]

What are you wanting to "check"?

[nocturne kindle]

if it can run the bt for future reference regarding "matter" which required bt

[humble mirage]

I'd not worry about it, matter is a long way away

It also uses more than just Bluetooth

[nocturne kindle]

i'm not worried but good to know if i must learn new platform i might start sooner rather than later

[still gyro]

Regarding your first issue, double check if you are using https:// if you try using http://, you will most likely get a "the connection was reset" message in your browser.

[nocturne kindle]

it requires a dongle kinda like zigbee or similar too i guess

[still gyro]

Also, a bit unsure about what you meant with transferring files, do you mean Host<--->VM ? If so, you should install Virtualbox guest extensions in the VM and use the "shared folders" feature in Virtualbox, then mount your shared folder in your guest OS.

Also SCP(transferring files over SSH) might do in a pinch. Did you mean host->ESPHome? I'm not familiar with ESPHome, so I dunno if it even exposes a filesystem. Usually everything gets baked in to the firmware with ESP devices.

[still gyro]

On a regular Linux system, you could run lsusb after plugging in your dongle, then check dmesg to see if a driver claimed it, maybe hcitool dev to list bluetooth devices.
However, it gets application-specific, depending on if it's plain old bluetooth, BLE or zigbee what you are looking for.

But yeah, good point about not stressing it, when all the details are not clear yet. Also, dunno if the binaries I mentioned even are bundled on a regular haOS install.

[little swift]

anyone using dev installs here? Ive had the OS 9.0.dev20220608 popup several times today and keep skipping it 😉 its the first skipped install that keeps returning though....

[hollow marsh]

Thansis!!

[shrewd robin]

so installed using tteck/Proxmox script and it seems to be crashing every day and losing network access. reboot is required? anyone else seen this?

8.1.qcow

[vernal finch]

has anyone here tried out the truenas scale version of home assistant?

[nocturne kindle]

ahh misunderstanding. the machine is an HP laptop with on-board bluetooth chip.
it's running haOS .

the dongle i was referring to was the one for the new standard - "Matter"

[sour monolith]

Hi.
Can somone help me with the instalation on the ap for Android, i got stuck on first page. Am i doing somthing wrong?

[viscid blaze]

Hello yesterday I asked in #general-archived why I can't display files from a server in the media using the mount command. In #general-archived I was told that I did something wrong in the installation process and would have to install a different version. Can we someone say which version i need?

Sorry for my Bad Englisch

[humble mirage]

#android-archived can help

[molten atlas]

Hi paulsk, many thanks for your support, I did tried your sudgestions about the http, without result.
Whot I mean abut the file transfer is because ESPHome create a folder where are defined the parameters who needs for the external swtches. I wish dont change theyr. But this is also a traininig to learn what change between the different support as Raspberry, NUC and other. I tried to make a shared folder , but this end to the VM, if I use the lsblk command I can't see any link outside the haOS.
I followed some indications to connect the SSD ,but up to now I don't reach nothing. But nothing can stop me 🙂
many thanks again.

[viscid blaze]

Pleased help me

[humble mirage]

What's your goal here. What are you trying to do? Why do you want the media mounted to HA?

[viscid blaze]

#general-archived message

[humble mirage]

Yes, but why?

[abstract hearth]

@viscid blaze The XY problem is asking about your attempted solution rather than your actual problem.

This leads to enormous amounts of wasted time and energy, both on the part of people asking for help, and on the part of those providing help.

The problem occurs when people get stuck on what they believe is the solution and are unable to step back and explain the issue in full.

Command '~xy' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[viscid blaze]

Because its easier to see the files in the HA App.My Goal is to Go to Media/Serverfiles and See all files that are on the Nas

[humble mirage]

HA isn't really a media server

However, with HAOS there's no supported way of doing what you want. You either use the entire drive, or not at all

[viscid blaze]

I know this i have a NAS and only want to see the files in the Dashboard of HA

[humble mirage]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations#media-source

If the NAS supports one of those then that's the way to do it

[viscid blaze]

Yes but when I go to dlna Media Server and then on the Name of the Server there is a pop up what say DMS is Not Connected

So i tried to do that with the mount command

[abstract hearth]

If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

• Check the troubleshooting steps
• Check your log file - remembering you may need to set logger to info or debug
• Explain what the problem you're having is - sharing configuration, errors, and logs

Command '~troubleshooting' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble mirage]

Check the log file ☝️ for any useful information

[viscid blaze]

lets talk in #general-archived ?

[humble mirage]

Or #integrations-archived

[crimson furnace]

Afternoon all,

Looking to replace the 32GB internal storage in my Dell Wyse 5020 with a 480GB Sata SSD to give me lots of space for Frigate recordings.

Any suggestions on what would be the easiest way to move the entire install? Sata -> USB adapter and then copy and paste the whole thing across? Would that even work?

[raw hedge]

Use the backup feature

[untold night]

Hi, I'm trying to install HA OS on Odroid C2 but it's been here for more than 20 min without doing anything. Is this normal? Download the latest version available (8.1) following the steps indicated on the page.

[untold night]

I can't get past the "Preparing Home Assistant" page.

[humble mirage]

You're using a wired network connection?

[untold night]

Yes

[humble mirage]

It you click the blue circle you'll get some logs

[maiden basalt]

Hi all!
I'm using the Home Assistant Operating System on a repurposed laptop
Is there a way that I can run a terminal command to dim the laptop screen? I was able to run it when I was using Docker

sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness

That was the command I used

[humble mirage]

HAOS uses Buildroot, which is a minimal Linux system

[untold night]

The last messages in the log are: 22-06-09 19:13:30 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.SECURITY/ContextType.CORE
22-06-09 19:13:30 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.check] System checks complete
22-06-09 19:13:30 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.evaluate] Starting system evaluation with state CoreState.RUNNING
22-06-09 19:13:32 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.evaluate] System evaluation complete
22-06-09 19:13:32 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] Starting system autofix at state CoreState.RUNNING
22-06-09 19:13:32 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete

[untold night]

after more than an hour finally start

[soft lynx]

I discovered that my Home Assistant OS virtual machine is endlessly booting

the virtual machine is running on VMware Workstation

I have added the VM's .vmdk file to a Debian virtual machine, mounted it and using journalctl inspected the boot logs

The logs are dockerd related

https://pastebin.com/qaRhKXWN

[crude inlet]

Checked disk space?

[soft lynx]

The VM doesn't get to CLI

It endlessly reaching the dockerd not starting and rebooting