installation-archived

[halcyon whale]

i added the http: in the configuration.yaml and added trusted proxies like the docker, and rpi

but for some reason nothing works

[grand pivot]

"nothing"

what?

what are you doing, what is happening?

[halcyon whale]

Logger: homeassistant.components.http.ban
Source: components/http/ban.py:125
Integration: HTTP (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 04:04:39 (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 04:04:39

Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from 192.168.1.146 (192.168.1.146). (HomeAssistant-Extensions-PushProvider/2022.2 (io.robbie.HomeAssistant.PushProvider; build:2022.345; iOS 15.3.1) Alamofire/5.4.4)

log file when i access home assistant locally

not even sure who is .146 its not my pc

Logger: matplotlib.style.core
Source: /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/matplotlib/style/core.py:201
First occurred: 04:02:16 (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 04:02:16

In /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/matplotlib/mpl-data/stylelib/_mpl-gallery.mplstyle: Unverified HTTPS request is being made to host '192.168.1.145'. Adding certificate verification is strongly advised. See: https://urllib3.readthedocs.io/en/1.26.x/advanced-usage.html#ssl-warnings

these are the errors i am receiving on my hass log

[grand pivot]

Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from 192.168.1.146 (192.168.1.146). (HomeAssistant-Extensions-PushProvider/2022.2 (io.robbie.HomeAssistant.PushProvider; build:2022.345; iOS 15.3.1) Alamofire/5.4.4)

that's your iPhone

[halcyon whale]

oh probably from my old installation, i ruined it yesterday and had to reinstall it

so is there a guide on how to configure nginx proxy manager to point to home-assistant in docker?

ive looked all over the web and it seems that the container installation has trouble connecting from domain?

[grand pivot]

did you change the HA port to 8124 on purpose?

[halcyon whale]

no i didnt change the port

[grand pivot]

that's what your NGINX config is pointing to

default is 8123

[halcyon whale]

yes

[grand pivot]

indeed

so..

[halcyon whale]

change it to 8123

still not working

mustve been a typo

and my nginx proxy manager says that my site is offline after adding the config

before adding the config it was online

i tried to point to the letsencrypt ssl from inside and outside the container also in the config didnt work

[grand pivot]

share your http: section

[halcyon whale]

okay

http:
ip_ban_enabled: false
login_attempts_threshold: 8

use_x_forwarded_for: true
trusted_proxies:
- 192.168.1.103

Local Lan

- 172.19.0.0/24

Docker networks

- 172.17.0.1
- 127.0.0.1

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[grand pivot]

that's a lot of proxies

[halcyon whale]

ye i was desperate in the end, at first i only had

-192.168.1.103
-172.19.0.0/24

[grand pivot]

you just need the one you actually use

[halcyon whale]

192.168.1.103 is my raspberry pi address

[grand pivot]

The HA log will tell you what it sees

[halcyon whale]

and somewhere i read that i need to add the docker

to tell HA that its trusted

[grand pivot]

only if your HA instance and NGINX container are using the same docker network

[halcyon whale]

they are

i install nginx and ha on docker

how do i know if theyre using the same network?

[grand pivot]

the easiest way to configure that section is to comment it out, try to access HA through NGINX, and then see what HA says in its log

it will tell you what IP it's getting the request from

[halcyon whale]

comment out the entire http? or proxies only?

[grand pivot]

trusted_proxies

[cosmic thorn]

Do you know if the name in the profile in the android app is the login to get into the graphical UI?

[halcyon whale]

when i try to log in from my subdomain from nginx it points me to the nginx welcome page

[grand pivot]

#android-archived

[halcyon whale]

Now it says that there are no issues lol

should i remove the custom nginx config also ?

[grand pivot]

if you're using NPM, you don't need to add any manual config

yes

[halcyon whale]

still no issues removed everything

when i click on my.subdomain.com it point to the welcome page of nginx

[grand pivot]

simple as:

[halcyon whale]

yup i have that

just cleared my browser cash

This page isn’t working my.subdomain.com redirected you too many times.
Try clearing your cookies.
ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS

[grand pivot]

then you're using the wrong address:

What to show when Nginx is hit with an unknown Host

[halcyon whale]

i put the correct address of the raspberry pi, it works for other instances i also had nextcloud installed

it worked fine, and even portainer and omv

i configured ssl also

[grand pivot]

whatever you've configured in NPM and whatever you're using in your browser seem to be incorrect

[halcyon whale]

is there a way to install it properly and correctly? a guide or something that can be helpful ?

[grand pivot]

there's not much to it

[halcyon whale]

i configured ha as host on docker

the other installations were configured as bridge

[grand pivot]

just specify the subdomain.domain.com in the NPM host config along with the SSL cert you plan to use and use the same name in the browser

[halcyon whale]

same name in the browser? what do you mean

[grand pivot]

https://subdomain.domain.com

[halcyon whale]

i tried that it didnt work

[grand pivot]

ok

[halcyon whale]

its an issue with npm point to locate the ha container

which i cnt quite figure out how to do

i think thats the issue

[stone orchid]

Looks at own config welp

[halcyon whale]

what do you mean?

i addded 2 proxies for rpi and docker

i got this error

Logger: homeassistant.components.ssdp
Source: components/ssdp/init.py:442
Integration: Simple Service Discovery Protocol (SSDP) (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 21:41:40 (3 occurrences)
Last logged: 21:41:40

Failed to setup listener for fe80::42:2fff:fe33:b5c6: [Errno -2] Name does not resolve
Failed to setup listener for fe80::42:88ff:fe35:38d6: [Errno -2] Name does not resolve
Failed to setup listener for fe80::3caa:7f1b:893c:92fe: [Errno -2] Name does not resolve

[halcyon whale]

anyone?

[urban zinc]

Hmm we're currently trying to set up HAOS on an i3-2100 but when we try to connect the SSD over SATA then it's not marked as an UEFI boot option. Has anyone ever tried that before?

[fallen vortex]

https://paste.debian.net/1232435

My installation is stuck on preparing home assitant. I've made it into the has os dashboard once but couldn't add adons due to Server Got Itself In Trouble. So I reset it but can get to dashboard again.

I've worked on this for about 8 hours Over past 2 days. Setup is to the book per home-assitance pi 4 install runbook.

[grand pivot]

Can you fix that link?

[fallen vortex]

Link works for me. Anything specific I need to fix. Or did u just want it deleted?

[grand pivot]

Can't be clicked

Capital H

[brazen herald]

The H in https needs to be lowercase

[grand pivot]

Some DNS/network issue

[fallen vortex]

I set primary on router to 8.8.8.8
How can I check if home assistant picked up the config?
I get dns 172.30.32.3 when I use. ha > Net Info
ha> dns options --servers dns://8.8.8.8 (with dns restart, didn't change the docker dns under net info)

[dark socket]

anyone can helping me with a debian supervisor instalation?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/621412840997388318/947624733007036476/unknown.png

ive got that error :S

[low notch]

:53 returned no ip for domain - it is dns

maybe your dns is down because it apparently refuses connection

[dark socket]

dunno

my other HA instalation is working fine

i already change dns to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

[brazen herald]

Did you try 1.1.1.1 ?

[dark socket]

dont think thats a probleme =/

[low notch]

why do you use supervised? this is only for experts and does not give you advantages over haOS in any way because they both require you to follow the rules to have a supported install

[dark socket]

lol because i use the adons in hacs

and supervisor

I already have a machine with supervisor and debian

but now, the instalation script gave me that error

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/621412840997388318/947624733007036476/unknown.png

add

Found a simple workaround.
Edit /etc/hosts and add
140.82.121.34 ghcr.io
185.199.108.154 pkg-containers.githubusercontent.com

and with runs 😄

[grand pivot]

Who needs DNS?

[low notch]

you have addons and hacs in haos

[dark socket]

intel comput stick

[grand pivot]

Giant /etc/hosts FTW

[dark socket]

dont klnow if suports haos

[low notch]

ok that could be a reason but everything not supported by haos does not justify using supervised

[dark socket]

oO

i dont understand that

I have another comput stick older...with supervisor and hacs

[low notch]

if you want a customized install you usually go with containerized ha installation

[dark socket]

and I use alot the thinks on that

I just need to keep debian updated

[low notch]

you need a working dns 😄

[dark socket]

no

I dont know what happens with that new one

[low notch]

supervised will not help you find that out

[dark socket]

no debian will

[low notch]

so does #container and #core with debian

[dark socket]

my supervisor is in a dock cointainer

😂

[lament estuary]

just kinda curious, why go with supervised install? seems like its a bunch of work for not much result since from what i've read, you're not allowed to run anything on the os other than ha related stuff anyways

i've read an article or 2 saying that supervised was actually the best (?) so was wondering about that

[grand pivot]

There's no reason to use Supervised

Ignore whatever you were reading that said that

[lament estuary]

ah alright

thanks

[grand pivot]

Seems like your internal_url is set incorrectly

[grand pivot]

-> settings -> general

[abstract hearth]

When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

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[grand pivot]

Well, that's an invalid URL

What URL did you use? And you need to restart your server

Ok

Only the ones I gave you

I'm not sure how you're doing this on a Mac mini either

Good luck with that

It's completely unsupported

Please stop pinging me

[crude inlet]

Well now you're likely muted AND running HA inside out

[forest anchor]

Good morning, all
I am new to HA and have a setup with an odroid n2+ and latest HA software release. Facing connection issues with an conbee 2 that is connected to the odroid n2.

Now to my question: I have a zigbee aquara sensor link https://www.aqara.com/us/temperature_humidity_sensor.html and facing the issue that HA loses the connection after a few hours. Pairing works flawless and after pairing is completed data is flowing into HA but then after a few hours the sensor is unavailable (battery is fine with over 80%).

[fallow saffron]

make sure your stick is on a USB cord. so you can avoid interferences.

[forest anchor]

hmm. Okay, that surprises me, but I will try it out. Thanks for your suggestions. 😄

[fallow saffron]

That's a general rule of thumb, that might not be it as I think odroid doesn't have wifi or bluetooth chip (but I might be wrong on that one). The other possibility would be distance and the necessity to add a router between your stick and sensor. I use a Conbee II stick on a NUC and I have 7 of those sensors in zigbee2mqtt so my guess is that it works fine with that stick.

[forest anchor]

I am not aware that there are routers for zigbee. Do you use an router for your zigbee environment as well?

odroid n2 has only ethernet buildin. I connected the board to my switch so no additional wifi or Bluetooth device are connected besides the conbee || usb stick

[humble mirage]

See the #zigbee-archived channel - there's a pin there that explains how Zigbee works

There's also pinned messages explaining how to improve the signal, and that includes using a USB extension cable, and not using USB 3.0 ports

[native ravine]

hi everyone, i am super new to HomeAssistant, and, reading in Github and others websites, i saw that there are multiple ways to setup HomeAssistant. Because of my background i've setup the docker installation of the HomeAssistant (without the Supervisor), while in the blog and youtube videos, i see that mostly the people use the supervisor to install addons/plugins. Is there any advice for that? For the MQTT server, i've setup Mosquitto manually and is working, but for others (like file editor) i dunno how to setup it manually. Is there any best practice around this?

[humble mirage]

The "file editor" is just https://docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-code-server

Indeed, all add-ons are is software running in Docker with some added sprinkles for the Supervisor

[native ravine]

@humble mirage thanks a lot! I Use for editing file the VSCode remote setup but it doesn't have the validation of the include afaik

[humble mirage]

Yeah, but you can add that

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=keesschollaart.vscode-home-assistant is one thing

I'm sure there's more

[native ravine]

@humble mirage afaik, is there a "a design pattern" in terms of structuring the config directory?

[abstract hearth]

@native ravine Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

Command '~irc' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble mirage]

I have no idea what you mean, but ... probably not

There are standards people use, but there's no one true way

[native ravine]

yes I was intended exactly that, if there was a "standard"

[humble mirage]

Depends on whether you use packages, or whether you split your config up

For splitting mostly people name folders after the integration, but after that there's no single way

[native ravine]

really thanks a lot for your help

super appreciated

[merry karma]

How do I add a drive to a running HAssOS instance

[humble mirage]

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#using-cli-to-move-the-data-partition

[merry karma]

thanks

[humble mirage]

You can't just add a second disk though, it doesn't work like that

[merry karma]

I see

so tell me how to add space

my microSD is filling all the time

[lament estuary]

what are you filling up the sd card with? media?

[humble mirage]

Well, the instructions above move all the data to the HDD

[merry karma]

"cant sync after initial wipe"

[humble mirage]

That should solve your problem, but it wouldn't allow you to move some things to the HDD - it's very much all or nothing

[merry karma]

media from motioneye

[lament estuary]

you can mount another drive to the media folder

lemme find the forum post

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/solved-mount-usb-drive-in-hassio-to-be-used-on-the-media-folder-with-udev-customization/258406 this worked pretty well for me

[merry karma]

thanks

udev......the undiscovered country

where do udev rules go in haos? the standard locations dont exist

@lament estuary

[lament estuary]

you can use the Import from USB function to import a udev rule

also i think the locations exist but can only be accessed through host ssh

i think theres some piece of documentation which goes over how to import the udev rules

gimme asec

[merry karma]

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/solved-mount-usb-drive-in-hassio-to-be-used-on-the-media-folder-with-udev-customization/258406/5?u=paoloantinori

is that the best way?

[lament estuary]

yep that's what I followed

can't find the ha docs that goes over how jmport from usb works but that covers the part for udev anyways

[merry karma]

will it work with a fat32 fs holding the udev import @lament estuary

I have 10min to wait on files to move from /media b4 I remount so ....idle hands

[lament estuary]

fat32 should work yeah

[merry karma]

thank you

[crude inlet]

https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/blob/dev/Documentation/configuration.md

The drive needs to be labeled "CONFIG" with the directory udev/ on the root of the drive

[merry karma]

I got that, thanks for being sure

[merry karma]

ok that kindof worked

now it doesnt use the SD for anything, I just wanted /media on it

I do have more space though

[lament estuary]

oh what really? thats weird

[native ravine]

is there any guide to understand how to manually configure entities and other types in HA in the configuration files? i would like to avoid to use the ui (if possible) in order to organize them better. Is there any guide that explain which "objects" exist in HA (parameters etc..) and how to handle them?

[humble mirage]

Well, you don't configure entities, you configure integrations

Each integration documents whether it supports UI or YAML

[native ravine]

yes, right the entity comes after the integration has been configured, right?

[humble mirage]

And the integration creates them

[native ravine]

so in a yaml file i will add integration manually and then the entities tied to that integration will be created

[merry karma]

@lament estuary I cant reply in thread, get upload error

from discord

but all is on sda

[humble mirage]

If that #integrations-archived supports YAML

[lament estuary]

im assuming you didnt edit the rule right

[merry karma]

not a bit

[lament estuary]

ah

[native ravine]

ah ... because that are integrations that cannot be configured through the YAML manually?

[humble mirage]

Yes

The #integrations-archived channel can explain more

[native ravine]

🤔 and so those integrations are directly stored in the database?

[merry karma]

mount and df -a show nothing but sda

[lament estuary]

uhh

[native ravine]

@merry karma you can use fdisk -l

to show the devices not yet mounted

[merry karma]

ha os datadisk list shows nothing and neither does fdisk -l

[native ravine]

🤔 this usually means that the kernel space didn't detect the device neither

[merry karma]

well it is running, so it found something

[native ravine]

have you rebooted the OS after attaching it?

[merry karma]

after importing udev from usb I connected ext hdd and rebooted, long wait for everything to move

do I need to reboot again?

twice after import?

trying it now

[native ravine]

usually in linux the first evidence of the device is in fdisk

[merry karma]

fdisk -l still empty after reboot

[native ravine]

df neither i guess

[merry karma]

glances sees the SD

df -a only shows mounts on sda

[flat finch]

I'm sorry if this is a bit of a dumb question, but what bit version do I need to pick for home assistant?
I have a raspi 4, 4Gb. Yess I tried looking it up, but it's probably such a noob question that no one even asks it.. 😭

I plan on using it just to expiriment... Not planning anything big...

[merry karma]

I think I may have run datadisk move sda, would that have moved everything

and can I move it back?

[shut rivet]

If you are starting out with Home Assistant on a Pi 4, download the image flasher from the Raspberry Pi website and flash Home Assistant using that thing to the SD card, plug it in and off you go!

You'd have the Home Assistant OS installation type version in that case. Which provides about everything our project has to offer

[lament estuary]

think so yeah

[merry karma]

yes, the haos img is very straight foward@flat finch

[lament estuary]

i think you can move it back on the same page, just choosing the mmcblk instead of sda iirc though you'll prob want to make sure since i haven't actually done it before

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#using-ui-to-move-the-data-partition going off of this

[merry karma]

@shut rivet has done and amazing job on the addons

@lament estuary but mmcblk is not seen by cli

[lament estuary]

does lsblk return anything?

[flat finch]

Alright thank you! 😄 I'll give it a shot

[lament estuary]

which shell are you running the command on? Terminal & SSH seems to return nothing all the time (at least for me)

if you're using terminal&ssh you could try the commands in ssh&web terminal

[merry karma]

I have the standard and the updated terminal

and I allowed elevated access

lsblk :no command found

[lament estuary]

oh ok nvm i just tried it and both terminals return nothing on fdisk -l

[merry karma]

but glances DOES show mmcblk

[humble mirage]

Because that's a container running on the host

[lament estuary]

try going to settings -> supervisor -> system -> host -> 3 dots -> hardware and then search mmc

if there's a bunch of entries there then it's seen by host and you should be able to transfer

[merry karma]

I see them

[lament estuary]

thats good, try going to the 3 dots again but select move datadisk instead?

after that you should have the option to move to mmc

[merry karma]

however move datadisk returns: no drive available

[lament estuary]

oh

[crude inlet]

moving /data only works when the target drive is bigger than the source

there's no built in way of moving it back

[merry karma]

so I have lost 64GB of space?

[crude inlet]

define lost, I guess

[merry karma]

inaccessible

[crude inlet]

if you moved /data from the 64GB to a bigger USB external, then yes the 64GB SD is probably wasted

[merry karma]

cant even mount ?

[crude inlet]

IMO If you want a media server, build a media server.

[humble mirage]

HAOS doesn't make a great multi-purpose server

[merry karma]

I just have motioneye on it, I dont fill it with other stuff

[humble mirage]

HAOS makes a perfectly fine Home Automation server though

[merry karma]

I have the goal of grid-free smarthouse

[humble mirage]

Perfectly achievable

Trying to make a single HAOS host run everything though... that's maybe not so achievable

[merry karma]

but I have to erase months of adjustment after this

[humble mirage]

Why?

[merry karma]

or I have to live a wasted 64GB A2 msdc

[lament estuary]

would it be possible to create a full snapshot of the current installation, reinstall home assistant on the sd card, and then restore the snapshot onto the sd card? or can snapshots only be restored on drives with a same or larger size

[merry karma]

there should be a warning that the move datadisk is a one way operation

[humble mirage]

As long as the target drive has enough space for the restore it should be fine

[merry karma]

sd was around 50% when moved

[lament estuary]

you should probably be fine then unless it gained a lot of data after the data disk transfer

[merry karma]

the sd is made of 8 partitions

hdd is only one

so the movedatadisk mould have to uncombime the FS's

[crude inlet]

yes, it could be restored this way

[lament estuary]

if you use the method i sent before, you prob wouldnt have to worry about the partitioning since the new home assistant install would already erase the partitions before restoring it back to where it was

[merry karma]

ok, I need to digest this before I make another misstep. thank you for your patience

[lament estuary]

yeah no worries

[shell viper]

Hello! Is it frowned upon to ask installation questions here, or is there a better channel?

[humble mirage]

This would be the channel

[lament estuary]

you can ask here

[shell viper]

Awesome...

TLDR:
I've used HA in the past, and even started writing customizations in (still a newb overall)... Ran into some issues where the unit (RPi3) would stop responding and freeze, so I stopped using it for about 6 months...

I can no longer connect to the Wyze skill in Alexa. I have tried troubleshooting with Wyze as other users are experiencing the same issue, but no response. At this point, I've disabled the Wyze skill, and intend to go back to using HA for the Alexa control, using HA to bridge the gap.

I wiped the card to start fresh, and have downloaded and flashed both the 32 and 64 bit versions...

Once I install the card, and plug it in... nothing happens. No green blinking light, just the red light

I suspect it's missing bootup routines

but I don't have a monitor easily accessible to plug it in and check

I'm sure it's not hardware related, as it started to boot up under my old configuration, before I wiped the card

I just wanted to check if I might be missing something in the installation on RPi3

I did follow the instructions on the HA site

including Etcher

[crude inlet]

@shell viper to confirm, this pi has the standard hdmi port and a micro usb connection for power?

[shell viper]

Affirm

Just flashed RPi3x64 with Etcher to a different card (32G) and trying again

oooooooo

yahtzee

I see green flashing

Okay, so I may have troubleshooted this in my mind... bare with me....

When I flashed with Etcher, I had downloaded the RPi4 version by mistake... When I downloaded the RPi3 version, the computer was too low on battery, so I flashed with Android on my phone, using an app that supposedly works specifically for flashing RPi installs.... apparently that didn't work. I followed the instructions on Windows using the same RPi3 install and now it seems to be working.

Now to see if it loads

HELL YES

thank you, sometimes it helps just to talk it out to someone... you can troubleshoot yourself

[low notch]

flashing anything with a low battery... thats life living on the edge

[shell viper]

I'll have you know, I'm so tough, I remove my USB without using the safely remove hardware button... so there

[shell viper]

What is the best way to connect Wyze to HA, currently? Is it still Josh Mulliken's API from github, or should I dip my toes into docker? I don't want to have to run anything but my RPi to have integration

I know his API had an issue with too many calls, and Wyze asked him to remove the sensors for now since they had constant calls and the relatively small number of users with HA accounted for like 60% of their traffic

[humble mirage]

You'd be better off asking about integrations in the #integrations-archived channel

[shell viper]

Thank you

[slender hazel]

hello, sorry where is the right place to ask about supervisor, i'm having problem upgrading to 2022.02.0 and stucked 🙂

[humble mirage]

Here

That'd be #integrations-archived

[abstract hearth]

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

• https://www.codepile.net/ (select YAML as the language)
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• https://dpaste.org/ (you guessed it, select YAML)

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[chilly lagoon]

Ah sorry thx

[slender hazel]

https://dpaste.org/HFT4

observer is marked as unhealthy

i'm trying to upgrade supervisor manually with ha supervisor update

[core-ssh ~]$ ha supervisor update
Processing... Done.
Command completed successfully.

but looks like it crashes

i can docker start hassio_supervisor again but cannot update it

supervisor is pointing to this one:
https://www.home-assistant.io/more-info/unhealthy/supervisor

but sadly cannot update and i cant understand why,

22-02-28 23:15:28 ERROR (MainThread) [asyncio] Task was destroyed but it is pending!
task: <Task pending name='Task-8' coro=<WSClient.start_listener() running at /usr/src/supervisor/supervisor/homeassistant/websocket.py:95> wait_for=<Future finished result=None>>

What is destroying this task ?

[slender hazel]

ok i was in beta channel

now back to stable and system is now healthy 🙂

[ionic carbon]

Hey, just to make sure I do not miss something out... if I opt for ha-container, I believe I understood correct that I am supposed to install all the infrastructure around HA by myself (e.g. a MQTT broker), via my own docker system. Right? How do I integrate those into HA, which needs an integration (e.g. show some entry on the menu to link to them)

[humble mirage]

Yes

Adding them to the sidebar would be done with a panel iframe, or similar - those aren't integrations which are something completely different

[slender hazel]

just fyi i'm back to beta and now supervisor is 2022.2.0 and core 2022.3.0b4 without any problems..

[ionic carbon]

@humble mirage I understand that this is not the same kind of integration the add-ons give me like supervisor, config, etc. but I just wanted to make sure there are ways to make it into HA if it is needed if only for comfort

[fickle patrol]

Hey all HA'ers!

I've got a dell pc running ubuntu 20.04 LTS, and am hoping to install HA Supervised or OS in a virtual machine.

[low notch]

you will save yourself a lot of headache when you research the installation methods a little more.
hint: stay away from supervised

[fickle patrol]

allrighty, I'll try to do a supervised install - I tried before, but didn't manage ti get it to work

[low notch]

what? thats the opposite of what i was trying to tell you

[fickle patrol]

oh whoops @low notch I meant I'll try to do an OS install

lol

[fickle patrol]

Well, I don't know what I did differently this time - but it's working!! 😄

[clever sable]

umm so i've somehow hosed my install

i upgraded from 2022.2.9 (HAOS) to the latest beta, but found some frontend stuff i wasn't a fan of, so tried to restore the backup and have now screwed everything up

supervisor logs (cli) appear to have tried to restore but then just stopping the HA application

core logs end with TERM and KILL, and ha is definitely not running

i run in a proxmox VM, so rebooting that brings me to the standard onboarding page, and trying to restore the backup from there ends up the same

it just never really restores i guess

[crude inlet]

Don't restore a backup during onboarding. You can restore it after

[clever sable]

ok i'll try that now

why um... is that offered if it doesn't work? lol

whoa

so i just rebooted again and am back on 2022.3.0b4 🤔

i guess i'll try restoring that backup again 🤔

should i be seeing anything in the logs after HA is stopped?

because it seems like this restore is just taking... forever

or not working at all

maybe i'm just gonna be stuck on this beta lol

ohh now it's going i guess

[viscid sigil]

If something goes wrong while testing a beta version, you don't need to install a backup to revert to a previous version. Just run the ha core update --version x.y.z command.

Where x.y.z is that last known working version number.

[loud helm]

going to use HAOS to turn off and on my arcade cabs and PC's except i cant find a way to use bash on HAOS. is ssh just enabled by default or do i have to do somehting?

note: im using a ras pi 3B

[viscid sigil]

Please read the channel topics. You should ask about shell commands https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/shell_command/ in #integrations-archived

[loud helm]

oh oops lol

[clever sable]

thanks for this

[sudden iris]

hello! i am trying to run the HA OS on a khadas-vim3. I have written the .img to an SD card, but it wont boot off of it. I wasn't able to find any relevant documentation about the process. Anyone could explain to me how to make it work, or link me the documentation on it? Thanks

[sudden iris]

turns out, i wasn't reading the documentation careful enough. I had to first erase the internal eMMC storage to make it boot from SD-card. To rephrase my question then: is there a way to install HAOS to the internal eMMC? (using the USB_Burning_Tool it panics about the image's format, and cant write it)

[somber rampart]

Some time back I noticed that my HA VM started hanging on reboot, complaining about "wait until kernel time synchronised". Once it's booted it seems fine.
I also see that "network info" gives a docker: section that lists the 172.30 network and specifies a DNS on that network. I can ping the DNS (on .3) but it doesn't respond to nslookup. So curious why that would be setup like that and if it might be the cause of the delay?

[blissful basin]

Maybe i just paste this here: Hello. I've recently installed HA 7.4 on QEMU/KVM VM (basically i just added image as USB drive). And i'm experiencing network issues. Only e1000e card driver sort of "works" (with virtio there's no ethernet connection at all) but it constantly going up and down so connections with frontend stutters and breaks. I tested this on two separate hosts - one with Rocky Linux 8 and one with Fedora 35 (so i guess different qemu versions also). What can i do about it?

[somber rampart]

Nvm. I must have got the nslookup cmd wrong. The local 172.30 DNS is responding now and doing recursive lookups so it is fine I guess.

[sand ivy]

Hello. I recently updated my HASS OS setup running on an RPi4. Since this I am not able to connect to it anymore. It doesnt have an IP but the green light are flashing on the Ethernet plug. I looked it up online and find a few similar problems but nothing worked for me.

Can somebody help me out?
Otherwhise is it possible to create a backup just from the sd card?

[brazen herald]

If you ping the server, does it respond?

And did you do a backup before the update? If so, you'll have a better chance of getting the backup file off, though I'd recommend looking into an addon that automatically copies your backups somewhere for you

[uncut hound]

if you plug in a display and reboot, do you get any video output?

[sleek ruin]

supervisor says [supervisor.backups.manager] Full-Restore 8d00fa63 done

but its still missing a lot of stuff is it possible its still restoring in the background?

[brazen herald]

What kind of "stuff" is it missing?

[sleek ruin]

All integrations, hacs, lovelace dashboard, users

[brazen herald]

Then it sounds like your restore didn't restore.

[sleek ruin]

so it seems

it would be nice to see some kind of status bar on how much is restored and if it's successfully restored
now you see nothing

[clever sable]

I would appreciate even a "restore started" toast

also, didn't restoring used to give you a choice of which things to install? to do a partial restore?

[sleek ruin]

in my case it did give me a choice but nothing is happens. I tried several backups now and none of them seems to work

[sand ivy]

No there is no video output

Edit: Now the green light of Ethernet isnt flashing anymore

[fickle patrol]

How can I make changes to the config yaml file when running home assistant OS in a virtual machine?

[blissful basin]

Is there a way to exit CLI and get shell?

[high token]

@fickle patrol like any other way you'd run HAOS. Install any of the possible that give you access

Studio Code Server, SSH, Samba, File Editor

[high token]

if you are in the host console you can use login

[blissful basin]

Thank you!

[fickle patrol]

thanks

is there a way to check disk space outside the virtual machine?

[crude inlet]

@fickle patrolthat would be a function of your hypervisor which runs the VMs

but it should give you some info in regard to space and allocation

Just think of it as another machine on your network like any other

[fickle patrol]

I'll do some googlefu and see what I can find out - I'm pretty new to the whole VM thing - was thinking I might set up a MQTT service to report the information I'd like to keep an eye on.

[crude inlet]

unraid shows some basic info

[hollow raft]

Need help, I have a odroid n2+ trying to set it up. I flashed it put the boot on emmc and powered it on, never let me make an account

[astral notch]

do you have serial conole on the n2?

[hollow raft]

I'm not sure all this is new to me, trying to learn

[queen bronze]

Is anyone aware of issues with KL130 or other Kasa bulbs not reporting "today's consumption" properly? The entity reports as "Unknown" every day at exactly 7pm and then becomes available again at the start of the next day (12am). So it reports as unavailable for 5 hours.

Seems like it might be a time zone thing, but the official app says that the device's time is correct

I have two KL130 bulbs that do this at exactly 7pm

[astral notch]

https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/usb-uart-module-kit/
that is the supported method but i have used ch340g/sil/ftdi all purpose uart's with dupont cables on my odroid SBC's

the EMMC module gives issues, while you figure that out you can get the OS installed on a SD card very easily.

[pale pewter]

hello, I upgraded from 2021.12.3 to 2022.2.9 and now my HA won't work. None of my integrations /component's load, it just keeps saying timeout/taking too long. I am trying to restore an older backup but anytime I click on it I get "Restoring a backup is not possible right now because the system is in startup state." Is there any way to get around it?

[astral notch]

you might just need to wait longer or have an issue with MDNS/dns the docs say it should go fine... https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/blob/dev/Documentation/boards/hardkernel/odroid-n2.md

[sand plover]

Hey, I just setup home assistant on my Raspberry Pi 4. Everything seems to be running fine, I have the terminal displaying URL's spo I imagine everything is connected right. When i head over to http://homeassistant.local:8123/

I get "Site can't be reached

Any help would be appreciated

[viscid sigil]

What about if you try http://<ip_address>:8123

[sand plover]

Same thing

This site can’t be reachedCheck if there is a typo in homeassistant.local.
If spelling is correct, try running windows network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

I've also tried here
http://homeassistant:8123/

[sharp cipher]

http://localhost:8123

If opening from the pi

If not, use your Pis internal IP address. E.g. 192.168.0.x:8123

[sand ivy]

Hey. Is there a way to connect the hass os running on rpi with a monitor via hdmi?

[shut rivet]

Yes, but depends on what you expected to be able to do with it.

It can access the console, but there is no UI or something

[exotic linden]

I am trying a fresh hass OS install.. I am getting this error in the supervisor logs
:"visor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.TRUST/ContextType.CORE
22-03-02 13:56:28 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.utils] Can't execute check_trust while a task is in progress
22-03-02 13:56:28 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.SECURITY/ContextType.CORE"

Can't execute check_trust while a task is in progress

Help please

[shut rivet]

It is working on things, that error doesn't have to be blocking at this point @exotic linden

[exotic linden]

@shut rivet thanks for quick response., Then i am not sure why am i stuck in the "Prepearing Home Assistant" screen .. Supervisor logs are https://pastebin.com/WAP9UNmH

[shut rivet]

So

in the first minutes the system starts, it tries to figure out the timezone and time settings:

22-03-02 14:12:52 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.core] Can't adjust Time/Date settings: Can't fetch Whoami data: Cannot connect to host whoami.home-assistant.io:443 ssl:default [Try again]

Which already doesn't work, as it cannot connect to the outside world as it seems.

a bit later:

22-03-02 14:13:27 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'Updater.fetch_data' blocked from execution, no supervisor internet connection

So the issue at hand, seems to be that the device you are installing cannot reach/access the internet

[exotic linden]

Thanks @shut rivet ... Followed this to solve the internet issue https://community.home-assistant.io/t/solution-to-a-hanged-preparing-home-installation-screen-during-new-install-on-a-raspberry-pi-4-dns-fix/273803

The hass OS is installed and setup but i am not able to see the SUpervisor menu option. Any idea, what could i be doing wrong

[shut rivet]

That topic seems odd

DNS is provided by your network (DHCP)

if that is wrong, you should fix your network, not the device that is installing Home Assistant :S

[exotic linden]

I had it connected to the Router via ethernet but still it wasn't working.. But after following this article, it started working.

any idea on the Supervisor menu item ?

[shut rivet]

nope, sorry

[shut rivet]

yes, but that is not a Home Assistant issue, but an issue with your networking. You should fix that

not work around it

[exotic linden]

Ohh ohk Thats what you meant.. yeah i will try to fix it without the current workaround

Thanks

[sand ivy]

The system is broken since I updated it. Doesnt get an IP anymore. I am trying to make a backup.

So do I have to do something special to access the console? I connected it to the monitor but nothing appears

[shut rivet]

Hit the keyboard? The console should just be there

[sand ivy]

Nothing appears. I see the bootloader at startup but after that nothing else

[crude inlet]

If you're looking for Supervisor it is in the Configuration page

[viral marlin]

ok so if i understand correctly.
Home assistant cannot be run on windows directly, you have to run it inside a virtual machine, its impossible to run as a 'normal' program ?

[crude inlet]

HA OS is an operating system targeted at specific boards. It is also available as an image to be run as a virtual machine. It isn't a program

[viral marlin]

ohhhhh, so home assistant is its own OS... oh i did not get that xD

[low notch]

there is a OS variant, but you‘re free to run any install method you like in linux.

[crude inlet]

The second part to this is that Home Assistant, by itself, is a server and doesn't require being run in this operating system, but it still won't work well with Windows

[viral marlin]

ok i have a strange (?) question, i have a tablet im not using but its almost new, cn i install homeassitant on that?

cause its android, i dont mind formatting the whole tablet but i dont know how, its not set as an option

(if its even a thing to begin with)

[crude inlet]

Even if you knew how, it would be a terrible experience

It would be a thing in terms of your own adventure and time, but it isn't a thing you'll find instructions for

You want ethernet for this, too

This is supposed to be a little server, wired in like servers should be, always on, never going to sleep. A tablet is not well suited for this

[viral marlin]

thats what i wanted to turn the tablet into, but if its not an options its not a problem. its just that raspberry pi's are constantly out of stock everywhere

[sand ivy]

Nothing appears. I see the bootloader at startup but after that nothing else

[crude inlet]

Yeah the pi situation right now sucks. I don't care for it but VirtualBox on windows is probably your best entrypoint if you don't have something to run Linux on

@sand ivy you might try rebooting a few more times.

[viral marlin]

be it linux or windows, in both cases you need to run a virtual machine, so whats the difference? im not really getting it

[crude inlet]

You only need to run a virtual machine if you're running the haos variant

And as far as virtual machines go it doesn't need extensive resources.

But on Linux you can properly run docker

And you could run HA in a docker container, by itself, without any of the "supervisor" ecosystem. HA OS has all of this included.

But you would not need all of that.

[viral marlin]

so i understand only half of it, but in short, running HA on linux easy (?)

what is haos variant ?
What is docker ?
docker container?

Im not inexperienced with computers, but i just never saw these terms in the instalation guide of HA

if we need to move to another channel cause these questoin arent meant to be asked here please say so

[crude inlet]

The channel is correct, I'm just not sure I have time to step into this

[viral marlin]

dont step into it if you dont have time, im just too autistic to quickly understand unknown things xD

[crude inlet]

"how is babby formed?"

[viral marlin]

"what is babby?"

cursed actions, please take your time and do what you have to do, someone else with lots of knowledge will probably swing by to help me understand this

[raw hedge]

How to install HA inside docker in 6 easy steps step 1: go ask someone what is google, step2: google linux, step3: read and learn linux basics, step 4: google docker, step 5: read and learn how to use docker, step 6, install ha inside docker and enjoy.

[viral marlin]

oh

docker is the whale with containers on top right?

wait is its the whale docker is epic, its mini virtual machines

[delicate solstice]

beware, once you install you never go back

[viral marlin]

wdym?

from what im seeing docker runs like a complex program on linux

[delicate solstice]

meaning pretty soon your entire home will be covered in Aquara sensors and you'll be figuring out how to best automate your sleeping behavior into a binary sensor 😄

[viral marlin]

dewut, im still trying to figure out how to install HA without a 150€ raspberry pi xD

[low notch]

docker

not on windows but on linux

[delicate solstice]

it's a good learning adventure! For docker, you can consider that "like" a VM, but containers are a bit different. Isolated processes

[viral marlin]

cause roughly said, HA works as an immage, not an application, so you need docker to 'run' the immage

and im still trying to figure out how that precisely works

[low notch]

without a gui if you want to run „lightweight“

you install docker and do what the installation instructions on ha page say

[delicate solstice]

Panzer, are you running from a windows machine right now? You can run docker locally to test around on your computer prior to the Pi.

If you haven't seen this page: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi

Basically, you will flash an image to the Pi. It will boot, and then you can access it via homeassistant.local via your web browser

There may be a few other troubleshooting steps, but I recommend starting there

[low notch]

dont run docker on windows. dont.

[viral marlin]

thats the thing, i want a pi, but they are dead out of stock

[viral marlin]

why

[delicate solstice]

it's good now with WSL backed 😛

[low notch]

wsl is linux, not windows

[delicate solstice]

Containers are really a linux concept, windows implemented it backwards... really don't miss the days of windows containers in the early days of docker

[low notch]

and native linux is still better than wsl, will always be

[delicate solstice]

i agree

[viral marlin]

im not arguing wich one is better or worse

[low notch]

its not about which is better

its about conformity

[viral marlin]

i just know that i will install linux on my pc in a few months, and for now i want HA to work

[delicate solstice]

yeah - i'm just suggesting areas to get started, it sounds like you're starting at 0

[low notch]

you wont get a good experience with windows, thats not what it was built for

[viral marlin]

what would be different, does the program work poorly, as in is it unable to properly do what its supposed to do?

[delicate solstice]

more footguns

[viral marlin]

(what is that?)

[delicate solstice]

I'd look at running on Linux somewhere first - I agree with mstone, not worth the headache if this is your first foray into docker

[low notch]

mdns, zeroconf and general network trouble await you with windows

[viral marlin]

so it works half with windows

understandeable xD

[low notch]

its more crippled than working

[delicate solstice]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/windows/ - this page offers some guidance on installation on windows - but again, I would only do this for exploratory testing. Long term stability of your home automations you want a dedicated hardware device (Rpi/NUC/etc.)

again will be very limited

[low notch]

a server in general is not something you want to run on your desktop machine

[delicate solstice]

but for poking around and learning the ecosystem it can be helpful

[low notch]

any old laptop will do

if you cant get a pi now

[viral marlin]

i want to understand if its good and what it can do, cause next vacation i will change around my whole room, install linux on my pc and automate the whole thing, thats why i want it tried out

[viral marlin]

wich is sad

[low notch]

install linux now?

why not?

[brazen herald]

I'd definitely recommend not trying to do things the hard way for checking it out.

At least, use Docker

(Which is not fun on Windows, but at least gives you a supported HA install)

[delicate solstice]

no better time than today to start on linux!

[viral marlin]

im not familiar enough with it, the ammount of games working with proton are too low and not the right ones, and i lack knowledge of adaptability to do so

[low notch]

time to start now

[brazen herald]

HyperV, Docker, virtual machine, old laptop/desktop from a friend or relative, any of those are better than trying to run it on Windows

[delicate solstice]

🐧

[low notch]

if your pc is powerful enough run windows in a vm

[viral marlin]

i wish i had a laptop laying around !, but i dont

[viral marlin]

it can run multiple windows xD

[low notch]

why not?

[delicate solstice]

what are your specs of your PC? If you can run virtual machines you're in good shape

[brazen herald]

He's saying change your base OS and run Windows in a virtual machine 😉

[delicate solstice]

alternatively look at dual booting to ease the transition 🙂

[brazen herald]

I wouldn't do that, then HA will be down whenever you run Windows

[viral marlin]

i am aware of dual booting, thats not the reason, im simply too autistic to be able to change from systme to sytem reliably, and i can take time to adpat, but not admist university times

[viral marlin]

rize 7 3000 something, 32Gb ram, GTX 2060

[low notch]

lol

[delicate solstice]

😄

[low notch]

man put linux on it, windows will still run fine in a kvm vm

[delicate solstice]

yeah I think you run windows in a VM no problem on that thing

[brazen herald]

I'd definitely recommend Docker then. You'll easily be able to transfer it to another machine, or you can just export the backups and import them again later.

[delicate solstice]

can even do GPU passthrough!

[low notch]

pass through that gtx and you can play games like nothing ever happened

[brazen herald]

But longer term you're going to want a dedicated always on machine for HA and related tools/awesomeness

[delicate solstice]

same graphics card I have and I pass through on my workstation

[viral marlin]

again, thats the plan.

its simply that i dont have the time to reinstall the whole thing since i need the pc working at this very moment

[low notch]

additional ssd doesn't hurt much

[viral marlin]

i have 2, and a HDD

[low notch]

there's really nothing stopping you now then

[viral marlin]

being busy doing homework at this moment

[low notch]

chatting on discord is homework?

[delicate solstice]

home automation > school (just kidding!)

[viral marlin]

shhhhhhhhh

details

details

[low notch]

K 👏 V 👏 M

[viral marlin]

kvm?

kilo virtual machine?

[low notch]

Kernel

[viral marlin]

(good that you wrote just kidding behind it, im autistic so without the explanation i would have seen it as something serious xD)

[delicate solstice]

https://www.heiko-sieger.info/running-windows-10-on-linux-using-kvm-with-vga-passthrough/ this is a neat article for reading on the topic re: pass through (once homework is complete of course)

[viral marlin]

the list in this link is more complicated then my law homework right now

[delicate solstice]

yeah, I think the payoff is good though. I run manjaro linux on my desktop with a bunch of VMs

[low notch]

guess you have more homework by now, get it? get it?

[viral marlin]

but basically, your making a windows virtual machine

[delicate solstice]

yup

and then giving it 100% access to your graphics card

[low notch]

linux virtual machine

if you are nuts you can also orchestrate vms with docker

[viral marlin]

here is a question about windows VM.

Can i tell the VM to run a game i have already installed on linux?

[low notch]

i do not windows (eh lies, i do for work but 🤮 )

[delicate solstice]

not really, no... but if you use steam then your save games and stuff are usually synced

so for example - I have Slay the Spire in my VM and on my linux, and it runs natively on my linux box

some games run good w/ proton

[viral marlin]

yeah, cause for example, arma 3 has linux and windows servers, so installing arma 3 once on linux would be better xD

[delicate solstice]

yeah! exactly

[viral marlin]

but sadly we cant, cause the servers hosted by people only support windows thing. luckily its not the case for everything, and the steam deck is moving things forward a big way

[delicate solstice]

so once you're on Linux you can use docker (as intended!) locally, or spin up a new KVM virtual machine with Linux on it and use docker there too

best of luck panzer, I need to sign off for a bit

[low notch]

or you spin up the vm with docker

[delicate solstice]

i'm curious how you're doing that, putting kvm tools into a container image? 🙂

[low notch]

yes

[delicate solstice]

i like vagrant for that purpose instead

[viral marlin]

one thing im not getting about docker.

I know HA is supposed to be run on a standalone server, but can it run on my pc if i have linux, like in a simmilar fashion to a program

[low notch]

virtmanager in container, essentially = virtmanager in webui etc...

[delicate solstice]

cool

at work we use terraform with proxmox/KVM, and orchestrate all that from a container image. It's fun

[low notch]

i wish. we are forced into hyperv

[delicate solstice]

If you're new to Docker, I would recommend maybe trying a small project first, something like running a web server on Docker. Then take a look at some of the HA docs

we use terraform there too, hah. Multi cloud...

anyway - good convo folks, I need to sign off - good luck in your HA journey panzer!

[viral marlin]

i will try, thank you

i managed to order a raspberry pi

[low notch]

homework

[brazen herald]

Make sure you finish your studies by the time it arrives 😛

[crude inlet]

I had a minute to check back in to see what I couldnt step into 😂

https://tenor.com/view/twho-hours-later-sp-funny-gif-18933136

[low notch]

wait till his lecturer shows up tomorrow asking about linux installs

[viral marlin]

oh we dont get that xD

and i finished homework for tommorow

[viral marlin]

question, can HA run on ubuntu ?

[low notch]

yus

[raw hedge]

wait till people find about WSL2 and setting up a bridged switch

[viral marlin]

is ubuntu touch (the tablet version) also compatible? or does it need to be desktop ubuntu

[low notch]

it is. dont do it though

[viral marlin]

why

is it not properlyy working on ubuntu like windows?

[low notch]

#installation-archived message

[viral marlin]

that was for instalation on android

[low notch]

that is a answer to tablet, not android specific

[viral marlin]

so why tablet bad, but pi good?

since they are both machine powerfull enough to run the same thing

[low notch]

tablet wireless

wireless server no good

wifi ap = server

wifi client = client

[viral marlin]

if both are connected to the local network, why would one be good and not the other?

[low notch]

it is about wireless

[sacred shell]

Your wifi drops, your HA drops

[low notch]

i installed ha on a 10 year old nexus 7 as a proof of concept. you don't want ha on a wireless device, period.

[viral marlin]

yes thats normal, just like if i had a cabled connection and the internet dropped

[low notch]

no

you already ordered a pi, wait for it

[viral marlin]

i want to make good use of the tablet, this might be a way

im trying to understand why it would not work

[sacred shell]

Use the tablet as a client kept in your home, a central location maybe

I use old iPads for the same

[viral marlin]

thats why i want it, i want it to run the thing, the configuration adn such will be done elswhere if possible

[viral marlin]

precisely

[low notch]

#the-water-cooler message

it is possible

just. dont. do. it.

[viral marlin]

its possible
it runs well
it works

what is the reason to not do it? im not getting it

[sacred shell]

But the iPads just run the mobile app as a client. It's not actually running HA

[low notch]

ok im out

[low notch]

the link above runs ha on the tablet

[viral marlin]

oh your using the tablets as acces points and not as the HA hosters

[sacred shell]

On your Ubuntu tablet you would run the web UI in a browser, afaik

[low notch]

there is docker running on that nexus tablet, and ha on docker.

[sacred shell]

Oh wow, that's jank 😆

[low notch]

proper jank

[sacred shell]

Hey, I have a 2013 Nexus 7 somewhere...

[viral marlin]

there are two things.

The actual HA, the 'server'
The thing you access HA with, the 'client'

I want the server on the tablet, and im trying to figure why its bad, like except putting the tablet on a charger next to my router nothign much is gonna happen with is, and the client would be somewhere else. i am confusion

[low notch]

what exactly do you not understand with wifi CLIENT

[viral marlin]

that i dont want it to be a client, but a host of HA

[low notch]

there is no wifi SERVER ever

[viral marlin]

unless a cabled internet connection is required to use it

[sacred shell]

I mean you could do that, but then you would have to have it connected to power all the time anyway or your HA system would shut down when your tablet ran out of power

[viral marlin]

''putting the tablet on a charger next to the router''

[low notch]

the performance will also be abysmal at best

[viral marlin]

so one reason to not run it on a tablet it because it would run poorly

[low notch]

another is wifi, just acknowledge it

[viral marlin]

im acknoledging wifi, but i dont know what i am supposed to acknowledge

[low notch]

wifi is not for servers

like, the tenth time now

[viral marlin]

i know its not made for it, im asking if its possible

[sacred shell]

Yes, it's possible

[viral marlin]

but now i know so its all good

[low notch]

as you see in the link above it IS POSSIBLE

but far from supported from us

[sacred shell]

Install docker on your Ubuntu Touch tablet, then install the docker HA... Thing (I'm not a docker guy)

It will probably be slooooow and you'll have no end of connectivity issues if you move the tablet around your home, or if there is any interference

[low notch]

probably? for sure

took about 2h to get that 2012 nexus running

[viral marlin]

thats the idea, i am aware the tablet might to be as immobile s the router itself, but if the connectivity between the devices and the serve goes via the router and not directly to the tablet its omething i want to do xD

[sacred shell]

If you're getting a pi anyway, you should instead virtualise HA and pull the config once it arrives and you've installed HAOS

[viral marlin]

i will install it properly one a pi once its here, for now i want to mess around with electronics xD

[low notch]

will be a pleasure to learn docker on a tablet, lol

[sacred shell]

So use the tablet as a mobile device, as it's intended, for testing the client features of your virtualised (but hard wired) HA instance 👀

[viral marlin]

what i will do when i have the pi, i install HA on the pi, and run the controll pannel of HA on the tablet

[sacred shell]

This is making irrationally angry 😂

https://tenor.com/view/chill-destress-woosah-calm-down-relax-gif-5102209

[viral marlin]

probably yes, im not trying to seriously use HA, i dont have the devices for it in my room yet, thats for later xD

question : can you couple an open source voice assistant to HA ?

[low notch]

yes

[viral marlin]

thats very cool

do you recommend a specific one, or is there one officially supported?

[low notch]

<insert open source voice assistant>

[viral marlin]

any at all?

[low notch]

ha is powerful, you can connect virtually anything

heck my toothbrush is in ha

[viral marlin]

i saw picroft as a good usage case, im not fully aware of how to set it up but it seems to work nicely

[viral marlin]

nani

[viral marlin]

oh its true hahaha

so basically, people have made an open source version of alexa/siri, and it runs on a raspberry pi

[low notch]

almond, look it up

[viral marlin]

in conclusion, im taking that

almond? you mean the edible thing?

then what do i search, if i search almond i find the edible

what do you mena with almond, probably a program or project but cant find it

[low notch]

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=home+assistant+almond

[viral marlin]

it gave me blank

[low notch]

oh boi

[viral marlin]

to the question "what is the colour of the sky?"

so what is this almond supposed to do ?

[low notch]

brb, need a real long walk in the woods

dont count on me coming back though

[high token]

look for almonds

[viral marlin]

kome assistant almond doesnt work either what is this xD

[viral marlin]

have a good walk then

[viral marlin]

does not work either

[high token]

no I meant @low notch should look for almonds since he's going in the woods

[viral marlin]

oh xD

yeha idk

[high token]

https://www.google.com/search?q=home+assistant+almond&oq=home+assistant+almond

[merry karma]

@viral marlin are videos easier for you to follow?

[viral marlin]

depends on the subject and presentation, most of the time i have too many questons about what is presented in a video to grasp the idea

[viral marlin]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/almond/

indeed :D

[merry karma]

ok, trying to think outside the box for you

[viral marlin]

ohhhh

almond is an extension!

that second link is very different from the first

[merry karma]

yes, there are multiple VA add-ons

[viral marlin]

VA? voice assistant ?

[merry karma]

yes

[viral marlin]

okey good

yeah cause the first link that was sent to me lead to a search engine

[merry karma]

the link got mangled

[viral marlin]

this one

owh xD

woops

[merry karma]

not your doing

[high token]

mstone was teaching you how to search for yourself

[viral marlin]

when i searched via the link nothign appeared no matter what i typed

and when he told me to search almond i found... edible almonds so i wasnt sure what he was trying to say.

i searched ''almond program'' but that didnt work either so i was confused

[merry karma]

you got it now, thats what matters

[viral marlin]

yes

so add ons for HA are called integrations and can be found on the HA website, not google xD

[merry karma]

now you get to do a bit of reading

[viral marlin]

i am currently looking at the list of integrations to see what they are and what they do, some look good

[high token]

addons for HA are called addons
integrations for HA are called integrations
addons are not integrations and vice versa

[merry karma]

focus on one at a time, trying to setup a bunch can be confusing in the best of times

[viral marlin]

huh, then im not understanding the difference between them, what is the difference?

[high token]

integrations help HA communicate with your devices

[merry karma]

it is not important now

[high token]

addons add extra functionality

[viral marlin]

aha, so and add on is added onto a device to manage it, and integrations are made to be able to integrate more devices with HA

[merry karma]

you are looking for a function whether it be integration OR add-on

KISS

[high token]

in the case of Almond for example you need to run the server/program/functionality where Ada (the voice assistant) would live

[merry karma]

keep it simple sir

🙂

[high token]

e.g. made very simply installing the program

that's the addon

[viral marlin]

too complicated, i lack knowledge to understand

[high token]

this was me trying not to make it complicated

[viral marlin]

oh, im sorry i misunderstood xD

[merry karma]

just keep reading, it will click, search in forums, perhaps someones way of saying it will click better than ours

[viral marlin]

i am trying, i have not found any ad on untill now but i will probably encounter one soon

[merry karma]

we want to help

[viral marlin]

i have noticed that HUE (for leds) is available, but is there an integration that can controll multiple lights of different brands together, or is it included in the base package ?

[merry karma]

no one is born knowing how

there are different ones for different brands

tuya is another

[viral marlin]

i know of a program, i dont remember the name, and they combine all the lights of every brand so that you only need one program to rule them all

[merry karma]

ha does that once you connect the different apps to it

to do that you use integrations

and-or add-ons

[viral marlin]

so if i connect a hue lamp, and a (lets say) google lamp with their own integrations, and tell HA to put all light to red, it will put all lights to red ?

[merry karma]

once you set it up yes

[viral marlin]

ok, i thought i would have to ask every integration program separately xD

[merry karma]

you can set a command that tells each device to do something, whether it be a light or the tv

if you can connect it to HA then you can combine it

that would be a scene

[viral marlin]

so i can make a command that says : ''turn off all lights'' ?

If i can, can i also ask a VA to do so?

[merry karma]

yes

[viral marlin]

thats dope

very very dope

so its
setup HA on pi
Make basic configurations
Connect all devices via integrations
Connect VA
Rule over devices

[merry karma]

it is like making a cake. you have lots of parts that look nothing like cake, but after following a number of steps you magically have a cake

[high token]

HA is the brain. You use integration to talk to your devices yes. But it's HA who is talking to them in the end. So HA can talk to any or all your devices

its up to you whether you then want all your lights red

5 certain lights red

one light blue

etc

[merry karma]

as I said, if you can connect you can combine

[viral marlin]

here is a ''strange question''. can i integrate something to HA trough my computer.

For exmaple if i have speakers connected to my computer, can i integrated these into HA, and that they are turned off when i turn off my computer

[viral marlin]

yes, people truly replicated google home and alexa, but more secure and more flexible

[merry karma]

you can do what ever you are willing to do

[viral marlin]

so i can make HA speak into the wired headphones on my computer ?

(if VA installed)

[merry karma]

it isnt so much "can I" as "am I willing to"

[viral marlin]

i am to consider my options before making choices

hence why i have questions, i want to know what can be done before deciding what to do

[merry karma]

you have many many options

[viral marlin]

cause i couldnt find anything to connect my HA to the comptuerr, so im wondering

[merry karma]

you should decide what you want to do first, otherwise you will get lost

[viral marlin]

oh no im just stupid, your probably dont need an integration to do so xD

[viral marlin]

im making a list in my head, then im choosing out the things that look cool

[merry karma]

that will not get you a working system. trust me, I know the shiny stuff is tempting, but installing things just because they look cool will leave you with a mess of config files

I speak from experience

[viral marlin]

to my knowledge installing a VA doesnt look like a mess, but i will see

[merry karma]

HA with VA is not, focus on getting that working

once you can ask it for the time and weather, then you can move to next step

the others will have to help with the VA, I have not set that part up yet

[viral marlin]

thats the plan yes, for now i have things to do tho, installing and getting mediavault to work.

HA, its VA, and setting the whole thing, that look very shiny to me

[merry karma]

OMV should be on it's own device

[viral marlin]

OMV?

[merry karma]

at least not the same as HA

[viral marlin]

oh yes never mind

why should it?

[merry karma]

mediavault

HA dose not like being media server, it was not built for that

[viral marlin]

and if i install HA first and then OMV

will omv not be happy?

[merry karma]

does not matter, they are still sharing hardware

[viral marlin]

oh, the pi is unable to do both

[merry karma]

HA is the limit

[viral marlin]

cause a friend of mine has multiple things running on his pi and it works without any problem

[merry karma]

the point of HA and OMV are to use low power devices to run them, if you start trying to do multiple on a pi then you are defeating the purpose

you can, it will work

[viral marlin]

oh for me the purpose is to have it at all, with privacy and knowing its backed off by people and not companies, the rest i dont care

but i can install both on my pi and it wont like crash the pi or anything?

[merry karma]

no

it wont crash it

[viral marlin]

ah good, cause i chose a 4GB model specially because i wanted to run multiple things on it

if both are possible, thats good, very good

[merry karma]

I see people running HA in a container on OMV

tunning HA in a container is a whole new set of things to learn

you wont likely be able to run both from root system

[viral marlin]

seems like its own whole thing, no i just want it to work and thats it xD

[merry karma]

one thing at a time then focus on OMV or HA/VA

no matter your project, you will do it one step at a time, dont let squirrels distract you 😉

[viral marlin]

it will be one by one

but i need to do it in a special way cause i want to install multiple things on the pi i want to know it beforehand

[merry karma]

understand that you will likely have to start over, no one gets it right the first time. but it is easier after failing

[viral marlin]

i prefer being well informed and redoing it 5 times then redoing it 15 times

[merry karma]

then search for "homeassistant and OMV on RPi"

measure twice, cut once is GREAT advice, just remember that you cant build anything if you keep measuring

[high token]

I wouldn't recommend both together though since when not familiar with using linux HAOS is the better solution. Flash an image and you get HA. If you want to run both OMV and HA together it means you need to flash OMV on the Pi instead and install HA on top of that. Doing this also means you have to learn about docker as well

[merry karma]

sometimes it is better to get started and fix mistakes, just focus on getting one working, then do the other, that way you will understand each and know how to fit them together

[viral marlin]

ah ok so its like the meat on a burger, you cant make two burgers if you have two pieces of meat, you have to put both meats in one burger

[merry karma]

you can practice driving on the couch for years, but if you never actually get in the car and on the road, you havent done anything

[viral marlin]

research shows people who drive on the couch learn driving better and faster, wich is what im trying to do, im not actually doing it, but im getting a pretty good idea xD

[merry karma]

it cost nothing to reflash an sd card. flash a HAssOS image and get started learning

you are not going to kill anything by trying

[viral marlin]

i looked at the setup for getting HA on OMV, it doesnt seem complicated if i folllow the steps, i jsut lack familiarity with what container is

[merry karma]

it is not simple

keep it simple

do one thing

flash HAssOS and learn that

period

you have to start somewhere

that is the best advice to answer your questions

share files from your desktop for now

[viral marlin]

using etcher you download OVM and put it on the sd card then you let the sd card run for as long as it needs and you can follow by connecting to the pi and configuring it, and then extra few stepd to access the storage inside of it depending of it its linux or windows

[merry karma]

you need to DO, instead of read

OMV is NOT that simple

[viral marlin]

i did not read, it is from memory.

And i need to do yes, but the pi has not arrived

[merry karma]

I see

[viral marlin]

i believe you, from what i have sene untill now its not mroe complicated then that, wich is fine since its like 5 times more complicated then installing a normal program xD

[merry karma]

ok well read anything you want, but the best advice is to just focus on HAssOS once you get it, you can always change your mind and reflash later

[viral marlin]

i will see when i do, in this new video i found i noticed docker is set as a services, wich is epic, makes it so i dont have to download docker xD

epic

[merry karma]

yes but please start with
a non-container install

good luck

[viral marlin]

i will dont worry, one by one

thank you for your help

[halcyon whale]

Hi guys, i have a small issue..

after setting up nginx proxy manager with home assistant im struggling to log in to my tuya cloud to connect my devices. any advise?

[humble mirage]

NGINX handles inbound connections, Tuya cloud is an outbound connection. NGINX won't have anything to do with Tuya

[halcyon whale]

im entering all credentials

and tokens

correctly

however im getting components/tuya/config_flow.py

[abstract hearth]

If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

• Check the troubleshooting steps
• Check your log file - remembering you may need to set logger to info or debug
• Explain what the problem you're having is - sharing configuration, errors, and logs

Command '~troubleshooting' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[halcyon whale]

the reasons im blaming nginx is because since i set it up i faced this issue

telling me that "unknown error has occured"

[sleek ruin]

Is it possible to see if a snapshot got corrupted somehow? And my second question is I've used Lovelace in (storage mode) is it possible to only restore this

[faint pebble]

Moving from rpi3 to rpi4 2gb, is 64bit the way to go these days?

[raw hedge]

Depends

[hot valley]

Hey guys! I really need your help.
I got Sonoff ZigBee 3.0 and I'm running HA as a virtual machine on a laptop with windows 10.
I added the USB into VirtualBox but it seems like I can't see it on HA.
https://imgur.com/yF5LGj5
https://imgur.com/WNqF3OZ
https://imgur.com/bsWcvjH
I added some pics here, it might help. Thanks!

[abstract hearth]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

Command '~images' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[sand bluff]

I have a different host setup (proxmox) but the same sonoff 3.0 zigbee dongle and I also use USB 3.0 passthrough. For me the dongle shows up under ttyUSB0, so not sure why you are not seeing it in your HA vm listed under hardware... Are you running hassos or a vm with ha core/supervised? Did you try usb 2.0 passthrough?

You could btw also check ttyACM0 (I think its not there as I think the hardware is listed alphabetically, but just checking...)

[hot valley]

"Are you running hassos or a vm with ha core/supervised?" - I'm not sure what's the difference how do i check it?
"You could btw also check ttyACM0 " - I didnt find anything like that
" Did you try usb 2.0 passthrough?" - I think i did but ill give it another try just to be sure. Update: still the same

[abstract hearth]

The topic of this channel is:

Discussion about how to install Home Assistant. Make sure to mention which type of installation you have. If you're not sure of your installation method, check under Info in the System Health Card (https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/info/)

Command '.topic' was invoked by: mstone

[hot valley]

@sand bluff Update: I restarted everything and now it's working. IT specialist solution haha 🙂 (Although I've done it like 30 times already but i guess 31 times is the right number)

[sand bluff]

Awesome! Sometimes it is as simple as restarting 31 times! 😄 PS: you can check Configuration > System where you can see the details of your installation. If you see a panel with "Supervisor" you have a supervised installation which can be either "Home Assistant Supervised" or (more likely) "Home Assistant Operating System". If you see "Home Assistant OS x.x" in the Host panel in your System overview, you are indeed running Home Assistant Operating System (aka HassOS and HAOS).

[honest egret]

First of all, Hi! 🙂 I'm new here. Then the question, and sorry for asking, since it's properly been asked a thousand times, but i just can't seem to find an answer, that answers my question. So here goes: I have been running HA OS on my Raspberry PI 4 for a long time, and i am very happy about it. I use, MQTT, Node Red, customizations and more. But presence detection is not working. So i wanted to install a module, but not possible for a HA OS. So i am looking to switch to a "non" OS install. I can see a container approach, and a supervisor approach, but supervisor does not work with a Raspberry PI OS, right? And if I go the docker way, what will i miss out on, not having the supervisor? I tried to read about all of this, but still not any smarter (https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/#raspberry-pi)

[sleek ruin]

Hi all, Is it possible to see if a snapshot somehow got corrupted ? And my second question is I've used Lovelace in (storage mode) is it possible to only restore this or extract the yaml from a snapshot?

[jovial rampart]

@honest egret , So, HAss is HAss is HAss. How do you expect to fix presence detection by switching to a docker install? With docker, you do not get addons or the supervisor but addons are just docker containers that you can spin up on your own or install manually as a service. It’s a bit more work but not at all insurmountable. Also, you need to figure out backups, also not tough.

[humble mirage]

Moving to Docker is unlikely to solve any "module" install issues - by which I mean it won't make any difference

HAOS uses Docker under the hood after all

[jovial rampart]

Try and load the backup. I also believe the backups are zip files so you can extract and use what you need. not 100% on that last part though

[humble mirage]

They are

[honest egret]

I found this project, https://community.home-assistant.io/t/monitor-reliable-multi-user-distributed-bluetooth-occupancy-presence-detection/68505, but it require you to clone a git repo to desk, for the installation, something I cannot do using the terminal on my Home Assistant OS installation

[abstract hearth]

As an alternative to HA built-in bluetooth tracking, the monitor script uses separate devices, usually Pi Zeroes, to track bluetooth devices.
It uses MQTT topics to relay device status messages to HA. See this forum thread for more.

There is also an add-on available for it.

Command '~monitor' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble mirage]

There's an add-on, in the link there

[sleek ruin]

Thx, the problem is the snapshot only restores automations and nothing else while it's a full snapshot

I tried another snapshot and luckily it worked but it's completely missing my last Lovelace dashboard

[jovial rampart]

I am not sure how snapshots work, it doesn’t sound like it’s corrupted. It sounds more like it is doing some kind of incremental backup.

Are you doing full backups?

[sleek ruin]

Yes full backup

It wouldn't be a problem if my dashboard was a yaml file but sadly it's not

[honest egret]

I dont know why i have never seen the add-on before, that you. wow. But thank you. I will look into that. But when you guys say, hey noob-new guy, what do you hope to archieve, its just docker all of it, there is a difference between HA OS, having docker containers behind the scene, and a docker container running home assistant core, and having access to the rest of the OS on your own raspberry pi, right?

[humble mirage]

HAOS manages everything for you, and you install other software using add-ons
Container puts you fully in control, and you have to install software manually

The same HA functionality in both cases, it's the bigger picture that changes

[honest egret]

But according to this, https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/, i cannot install supervisor on a raspberry pi, so that would limit the functionality of my Hom Assistance, right?

[humble mirage]

No

The Supervisor isn't Home Assistant

That's a Docker manager for managing the add-ons, backups, and other stuff

No matter how you install, Home Assistant is the same

[honest egret]

ahh. Thanks 🙂

@humble mirage thank you for the feedback. And to point me towards the add-on option!

[pliant sapphire]

Hi everyone - I recently purchased the RPi 4B and the Argon One M.2 case (+ an M.2 SATA SSD) to run Home Assistant and replace my aging RPi 3. However, I'm having a lot of issues getting it to boot from the SATA SSD (SD card works fine). I've done some research on the errors I'm seeing (EXT4-fs / SQUASHFS errors) and from what I can tell it's likely related to the enclosure itself and how the RPi is communicating with the SSD (see: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/squashfs-error-ext4-fs-error/293167/5). Wondering if anyone has ever ran into this before or has any suggestions on how to get around this?

Here are the exact errors I'm seeing on boot:
EXT4-fs error (device sda0): ext4_find_entry:1463: inode #131220: comm coredns: reading directory iblock 0 SQUASHFS error: unable to read metadata cache entry SQUASHFS error: unable to read directory block

I have a feeling I'm either going to have to replace the case or simply live with booting off SD card for the time being. Unfortunately I'm already outside of the return period for the case/SSD.

[crude inlet]

@pliant sapphire you could alternatively use the datactl move method, which moves the /data partition but continues to boot from the SD

[pliant sapphire]

Interesting. I found this thread regarding this: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/hass-io-transfer-from-sd-card-to-ssd-or-usb/97452/7. So would I install just vanilla Raspbian on the SD card and then essentially run HA Supervised from there, but move the actual HA data files to the SSD?

[crude inlet]

That's not what I am referring to. There's a built-in way to move the data on your SD to an externally connected SSD or nvme

As opposed to booting the whole thing from the external drive

[pliant sapphire]

Hm okay will have to look into it a little more here

[crude inlet]

There's no need to install "supervised"

If you go to the supervisor system page and click on the three dots on the Host card, you'll see "move data disk"

The disk needs to larger than the current disk

[pliant sapphire]

Got it, I'll give that a try today

This assumes that I'm running HassOS, correct?

[crude inlet]

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#using-external-data-disk

Yes

[pliant sapphire]

Sounds good, appreciate the help

[autumn wedge]

When i connect to http://domain.com:8123/ (non-ssl) it works just fine, but when i connect to https://domain.com/ (reverse proxy with nginx, ssl with certbot) i get "Unable to connect to Home Assistant" any idea why?

[humble mirage]

Do your NGINX logs show the connection reaching the proxy?

[autumn wedge]

let me have a look

how do i check this?

[humble mirage]

Look at the access logs it writes?

Where those are depends on how you run it

[autumn wedge]

looks like it does get there

i see a get request

can't upload images here

[humble mirage]

Well, no, images of text are horrible

[abstract hearth]

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

• https://www.codepile.net/ (select YAML as the language)
• https://paste.debian.net/ (select YAML as the language)
• https://dpaste.org/ (you guessed it, select YAML)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

Command '~share' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble mirage]

Next step is checking that you enabled websocket support in the proxy config

[autumn wedge]

https://www.codepile.net/pile/m0AmXX0K

[humble mirage]

400 ... bad request

[autumn wedge]

mhm

i'm not sure why though.

it's been a good while since i've used home assistant, so maybe there was some change i didn't know about?

[sacred shell]

Howcome you're exposing HA to the internet?

[autumn wedge]

uh

to use it on my phone, mainly

[humble mirage]

Not in a long time, and if there were changes they'd have been covered by the breaking changes section.

You have checked HA's log file too?

[autumn wedge]

it has worked like this before, and i have not checked the ha log

where can i find it?

[humble mirage]

In the config folder - same as always 😉

If you just did an upgrade from an ancient version of HA there's various things that could have caused this

[autumn wedge]

alright, i'll go have a look

yeah i was running 6.5

[humble mirage]

?

There's been no version 6.5 of Home Assistant

[autumn wedge]

Home assistant OS 6.5

[humble mirage]

That's not Home Assistant though

[autumn wedge]

oh my bad

[humble mirage]

It's the operating system, as the name implies

(and only if you use that install method)

[autumn wedge]

i can't find anything suspicious in the log

wait nvm this looks like it's bad

2022-03-03 16:39:15 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http.forwarded] A request from a reverse proxy was received from 192.168.2.14, but your HTTP integration is not set-up for reverse proxies```

[humble mirage]

There we go

Did you just upgrade HA?

[autumn wedge]

i have

[humble mirage]

And did you skip reading all the breaking changes?

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-you-did-yes-you-did-lesley-ann-brandt-mazikeen-tom-ellis-gif-17399449

[autumn wedge]

i might have skipped those, my bad

i'll probably be able to find a solution from here on out, thanks for all the help

[humble mirage]

As of ... 6 or 9 months ago you need https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/http#use_x_forwarded_for and https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/http#trusted_proxies correctly set

http:
  use_x_forwarded_for: true
  trusted_proxies:
    - 192.168.2.14

[autumn wedge]

one other thing, the vm keeps logging something about dazed and confused

[sacred shell]

Well yeah, but howcome no VPN instead of reverse proxy? For a sample size of two, 100% seem to be happy exposing the HA login to anybody 🤷‍♂️

[autumn wedge]

this fixed it, thanks.

[autumn wedge]

vpn is too slow.

at least, last time i tried it was

and doesn't ssl protect it?

[sacred shell]

OpenVPN was always slow on mobile clients, but Wireguard is lightweight

[autumn wedge]

my home network has 2mbit down and 1mbit up, doesn't that limit my speeds when i vpn to it?