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dry saffron
novel dagger
dry saffron
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Get HACS is displayed, now I should install it

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now it is installed as an addon

novel dagger
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it is not installed it installed an addon that will install HACS.

dry saffron
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start now or not?

novel dagger
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start it. then look at the logs tab

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log should look like this.

humble scaffoldBOT
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@novel dagger I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
dry saffron
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log I can post like here?

novel dagger
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did it show it succeeded?

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toward then end of the log it will say INFO: Remember to restart Home Assistant before you configure it

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so assuming all is good then reboot.

dry saffron
novel dagger
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looks good, now reboot the machine.

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the rasberrypi

dry saffron
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oky

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is redesigned

novel dagger
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now follow this

dry saffron
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I'm thrilled, he's found it 😄

novel dagger
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note bullet #2 you MUST clear your browser cache or browser hard-refresh.

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bottom right corner now look for + Add Integration

dry saffron
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I swallowed a broom, it finally worked!

novel dagger
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Great. When I was 20 I could speak some german but now I don't remember anything :(. But we still got it done!

dry saffron
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I thank you thank you thank you very much for that 🙂

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if you could help me with the solar system, I will kiss your feet 😄

novel dagger
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that's a pretty horrible translation 😆

dry saffron
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alternativ:
if you could help me with the solar system now, i will kiss your feet 😄

tender wren
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I assume PV is meant. Helping with a whole solar system would be a challenge shksKEKW

dry saffron
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i know that the german language is more complex than english. That's why a lot of things are translated strangely.

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i have found an alnleitung that i understand. but i don't understand ha well enough to understand or add the identities.

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Does anyone understand that?

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If I understand correctly, my PV system has interfaces that can be read out with the broker.

dry saffron
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mqtt_broker_user: null
mqtt_broker_passwd: null

the two are still missing, if you can tell me how to fill it in, then it's already done 🫶

tender wren
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The credentials of your MQTT broker

dry saffron
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and where can I find them?

tender wren
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In the MQTT broker you have installed

dry saffron
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yes, it's working. thanks

tender wren
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Likely

humble scaffoldBOT
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@glacial shard I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
slow dome
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Hi all, I'm having trouble selecting my wifi adapter as being the primary/default adapter through UI/ha cli. I have ethernet connected to my regular LAN and Wifi connected to a dedicated IoT Wifi network. Through the UI the wifi adapter is not selectable as default and the ha cli does not seem to offer a method for switching default adapters, at least not that I can find. Any suggestions?

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(I'm trying to get multicast traffic working this way)

slow dome
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Just a follow-up, after removing the ethernet port and rebooting the wifi adapter becomes selectable

slow dome
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And after plugging the ethernet port back in and rebooting, both adapters are selectable

crude inlet
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boom

ionic ginkgo
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Help! How do I installation?

lavish anvil
steel sky
steel sky
brittle sail
crude inlet
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Well, I'm biased, because I made it

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But it only shows one install

brittle sail
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It’s a trick question cuz the answer is yes but ya I just realized the other pic is showing the multiple installs per ‘circle’

crude inlet
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Also, the ubuntu, fedora references are out of date in mine

brittle sail
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How.dare.you.Greta.gif

crude inlet
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it's very old

steel sky
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I don't quite understand what they do there. Having HAOS and Generic Linux both seems like it covers OS and Supervised, but then the docker connection isn't quite right.

brittle sail
crude inlet
steel sky
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Yeah, I guessed

crude inlet
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It used to say ResinOS

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at one point

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But how is the docker connection not right in either case?

high token
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someone came in with ResinOS in 2021 at some point asking for help

shut rivet
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ResinOS? damn

steel sky
crude inlet
steel sky
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It both is and isn't.

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I don't use it, but I understand it requires specific host software as well?

crude inlet
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No. That's what makes "supervised" installs an issue

empty bloom
random ember
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Heyy, back in the Day i make an home assistant account. I used 2 step verification. No after a few weeks and want to restart with HA but the 2step doesnt work anymore. Is it possible to reset my account and start over ?

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With the same e- mail

crude inlet
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@random ember 2FA is for the HA user accounts. There is no 2FA for the Nabu Casa cloud accounts if that is what you mean

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Where are you having an issue?

orchid pebble
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wait... all the channels got archived?

jovial rampart
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Welcome to hell 😉🤣

orchid pebble
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all good

jade spade
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Hello. Now sure if right channel. I have my HA installed in Proxmox.

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We had a power failure and server stopped.

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When Proxmox came back all started but HA VM.

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No error. Just time out.

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I have done a full VM restore from last backup (one per day) and again that one doesn't start.

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What would be best way to debug this? Currently I am thinking of fresh installation and restore from the night full backup.

crude inlet
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@jade spade it is hard to debug "not starting". What are you referring to? The VM?

jade spade
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Found it. Problem was with usb. If I remote usb device that I send to VM it will boot. But I have no ziggbe as I can not pass the zigbee dongle.

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lsusb command on the server also freezes.

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Now looking how to solve this.

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Proxmox doesn't see any USB devices.

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I do have USB HDD mounted and that one workes fine.

jade spade
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Needed to upgrade proxmox. And restart it all again. It seems one of the kernel upgrades crashed the USB stack.

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Now HA is back up and Zigbee2mqtt also.

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If this helps someone...

wild garden
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hi, can I install Home Asssitant on esxi 6.5 server without internet connection on vlan for HA?

crude inlet
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@wild garden no. HA OS is going to need internet to download itself

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And it will need internet to download any addons you might want, updates, etc. It is not a good install choice if you don't want to allow it access to the internet.

wild garden
crude inlet
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@wild garden I do not.

glossy mason
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My HAOS on RPI will not boot without a monitor attached to HDMI. This happened after an update. It was no issue for two years previous. If I try to boot without monitor, nothing happens. If I plug in hdmi the kernel immediately starts booting.

crude inlet
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@glossy mason Are you using any external drive or other peripherals?

acoustic dirge
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hey every one ive been messing with home assitant in a virtual box for a while. i just got my odroid n2+ from ameridroid with everything already installed. i didnt log in i just tried to load a partial back up. now i cant get in using my nabu casa or the ip or the home assistant.local. i plugged a monitor in and it is running i'd like o just reverse the back up...any one have any ideas?

glossy mason
crude inlet
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@acoustic dirge the old IP address doesn't come over with a restore. Are you using the new one??

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Or you could try homeassistant.local:8123

acoustic dirge
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No idea at all what the problem was I finally learned how to refresh ha on it and started over. All good now

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Reflash

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I think I did the wrong partial backup and it wouldn't start up right

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Now I'm having a blast fixing all the integrations that stopped working

grim onyx
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I've flashed the latest HA OS image on an SSD but it's not recognized as a valid UEFI, bootable disk (not even listed). Anyone by any chance on a Fujitsu Esprimo q920 i5?

high token
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the SSD is connected internally right?

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and confirmed the prerequisites regarding the BIOS settings?

orchid pebble
grand pivot
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maybeDNS

shut rivet
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mDNS works for most people actually.

zenith fog
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Hi

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Can somebody help me?

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How can I install Release 2021.6.6 - June 20 version?

grand pivot
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Why would you want to install an 8 month old build?

zenith fog
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Because I need exactly that build

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For test at VM

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I just can't find download link

grand pivot
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Hmmm..ok

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It depends on how you installed Home Assistant

zenith fog
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Thanks I'll try

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It's about update, I have no version installed now

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I just don't understand how to install it. I am bad in Linux

grim onyx
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I bet I found a Barebox corner case.

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I repeated the same flashing several times. Same results. It’d be nice to have some debugging info from Barebox.

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Also, having read about the future plans for Generic x86, I’m a little worried if it makes sense to continue to insist to have my HASS migrated to this “NUC” instead of leaving it to the RPi. The only reason why I’m migrating is that the “NUC” costed me as much (if not less) than the RPi + SSD + PWM + SSD expansion + case, which looks a bit like a patchwork, BTW.

crude inlet
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@grim onyx which NUC is it? And where did you read about future plans?

grim onyx
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It’s a Fujitsu Esprimo q920: has an i5 CPU.

crude inlet
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That's "supervised" and generic linux

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That's not the same

grim onyx
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Ah. I figured I always confuse supervised vs OS

crude inlet
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Generic Linux meaning, any random distro

grim onyx
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Anyhow, I’m now determinated to fully debug this case, as I think it’s just a small bit in the Barebox part.

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@crude inlet Any hints of what I could try, maybe change something in the “cmdline.txt” file under the barebox directory in the boot partition?

crude inlet
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No idea. What's happening in the logs?

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Oh no logs

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I'd check BIOS I guess?

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Is this a sata SSD?

grim onyx
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Yes @crude inlet - SATA SSD, no logs. BIOS set to support both UEFI and Legacy (also tried UEFI only). Nothing else.

high token
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and secure boot is disabled? Or not such an option?

grim onyx
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@high token there is secure boot on the BIOS, but it’s disabled.

grim onyx
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I’m thinking about booting off USB and keeping the SSD for the data partition.

manic bane
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@grim onyx does the usb show up? Or does anything else installed on the ssd show up

placid sage
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Terminal & SSH

left kraken
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Hi. I'm trying to figure out why my HA server sometimes going down. I think is after some power failure. Last time it ran about two months, current setup is Router LTE (TP-Link Archer mr200), Rpi4 + SSD , Haos.( But before it was Supervised+SSD, supervised+SD card and also collapsed). Last time it happened due to power failure, or internet failure, because my camera went unreachable also even with it's native app. Camera went back online , but the server didn't . I bring it to my home, connected to HDMI, and it started up (without any network connected) but I'm not sure, if it did it after i unplug SSD, booted Pi without any disc, and connected USB SSD back again.

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Are there older logs saved somewhere? I think i saw them when I was digging through backup image some time ago

raw hedge
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I ran hassos for a bit… keeps on going down so I switched back to raspberry os and good old docker

grim onyx
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USB shows up correctly (tried with both HA OS, Ubuntu, and Win10x64 installer), but SSD only shows up and doesn’t boot (black screen).

raw hedge
left kraken
raw hedge
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Does normal Debian work?

raw hedge
left kraken
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Maybe. Only difference between my instances is that crashing one has ESPHome and custom component called Tapo Camera

grim onyx
raw hedge
grim onyx
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You mean not a live USB @raw hedge ?

raw hedge
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Correct

grim onyx
# raw hedge Correct

I think the correct test is to install on the SSD (which HAOS doesn’t boot from) and see if Debian boots. Right?

raw hedge
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Sure

grim onyx
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Or maybe image the SSD with Debian’s live (not the installed Debian) and see if it boots?

raw hedge
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Anything but haos

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Do a install

high token
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Might be worth trying another version of HAOS apart from latest as well

grim onyx
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Win10x64 installs and boots fine, but that’s not Linux. Yes @high token I wanna try that one too.

raw hedge
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Could be haos is missing some important driver

high token
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But first try one of the stable versions

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was it 7.2 you tried ?

high token
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what now?

22-02-20 19:30:00 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.utils.codenotary] Can't parse CodeNotary output: b'mkdir /root/.cas: permission denied\n' - Expecting value: line 1 column 1 (char 0)
vale sluice
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Hey,
I got the error:
[supervisor.jobs] 'Updater.fetch_data' blocked from execution, no supervisor internet connection
21-10-12 15:50:15 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec

I reflashed the image like 5 times, and have internet connection, and still nothing changed, i also cant be out of memory, because i have a 64gb card.

Thanks!

spring nymph
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Have you checked inside HA if network is working? Which installation method are you using?

vale sluice
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How to check?

spring nymph
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Ping something

vale sluice
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My router is showing that its sometime inactive and sometimes downloading stuff

vale sluice
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'Updater.fetch_data' blocked from execution, no supervisor internet connection -> Downloading
Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec -> inactive

low notch
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its likely dns then

vale sluice
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I littualy deactivated it the second you wrote

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Pahaha now its working lol

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im so dumb

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Thanks!

warped timber
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Hi!

I'm just on my road to a fresh install. (My old backup & install got corrupted, so good time for a big cleanup). Only this time no smooth sailing 😦

I'm trying to re initiate my Zwave network.

upon adding the "Zwave JS" intergration, i get a "Failed to connect". Though the zwavejs add-in is looks working.

Cant find any good logging, where should i start looking?

humble mirage
warped timber
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Omw there, Thanks!

nocturne orbit
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Hi in the last version of the core he don't work (2022.2.9)

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my supervisor got error

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to begin with, I can't even restart my Home assistant

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has anyone made the new update?

abstract hearthBOT
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Please don't say I have an error or describe an error. Share the whole actual error message so we can help you.

Command '.error' was invoked by: Tinkerer
nocturne orbit
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how i can send you my error?

abstract hearthBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

Command '~share' was invoked by: Tinkerer
spring nymph
nocturne orbit
humble mirage
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You have a network problem

meager rover
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Hi! Dump question. How I install older core version on dashboard?

nocturne orbit
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do you know how to fix it?

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in integration

humble mirage
meager rover
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Thanks!

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Okay, only way is via CLI.

nocturne orbit
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and how i can do that without supervisor?

meager rover
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Btw... I had same problem. 2022.2.9 got stuck on startup...

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I run it on VirtualBox (Mac Mini).

nocturne orbit
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ok i'm not alone

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so we can just do a recovery

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from 2022.2.8 or older

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because without supervisor we can't install older update

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no?

humble mirage
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Yes you can

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You just follow the instructions for your install method

meager rover
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2022.2.0 works like a charm... now I try to jump 2022.2.8

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It seems to work also.

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So 2022.2.9 is the problem.

abstract hearthBOT
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Want to see what issues are open (or were open and are now closed)?

Don't forget to check for any alerts

If you think an upgrade broke something then:

  1. Downgrade to the previous version to check if it works correctly there
  2. If it does then change the logger settings for that integration to debug
  3. Upgrade to the new version again
  4. Look in the logs for errors
  5. Open an issue, following the template provided and including the log information
Command '~issues' was invoked by: Tinkerer
leaden crane
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Hi everybody. I've searched online and can't seem to solve my error so here I come!

  • I'm running HA:latest through Docker on TrueNAS Scale (debian)
  • I'm using network_mode: host and privileged: true as recommended and no other particular settings

Then when booting, I get the following error:

  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/zeroconf/_utils/net.py", line 248, in new_socket
    s.bind(bind_tup)
OSError: [Errno 98] Address in use

I have tried pruning networks, checking the ports, and nothing pops up

rough falcon
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Did you install Home Assistant using TrueCharts?

leaden crane
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No, directly using docker compose

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Easier to handle bind mounts and such that way

rough falcon
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I'm doing the same thing... I have it working using macvlan so I could assign IP addresses matching my previous jails

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that is macvlan and NO network_mode: host

leaden crane
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Using TrueNAS Scale though so there's no jails or anything, it'l really just raw docker

rough falcon
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I know, I switched from CORE to SCALE -- Sorry I didn't mean to confuse the issue

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But I'm using docker-compose on SCALE as well

leaden crane
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Ah ok, so what exactly should I do there? Haven't looked at macvlan networks ever actually despite using docker daily 😅

rough falcon
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I'm not an expert but it was just an entry in my compose file

leaden crane
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Looking at this it looks like macvlan should actually be the recommended way to use Docker + HA since HA expects a lot of freedom in how it attributes ports and listens

rough falcon
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Glad I can help

jolly talon
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Anyone here have Home Assistant installed on UnRaid? I'm trying to decide between installing it on my existing UnRaid machine vs buying a RPi and installing it there. If you did it on UnRaid, did you do the docker method or a VM? I'd be curious to hear the benefits of each installation approach.

manic bane
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Recommend trying to use unraid rather than a RPi, the latter is unreliable

uncut dove
crude inlet
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@jolly talon the unraid app store can replace the supervisor addon store. Otherwise, you can run a VM

jolly talon
crude inlet
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@jolly talon I'd say yes.

left kraken
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Well, i can't reproduce my issue at home. Tried to suddenly power off, then restart , restart without working network and reconnect it later, always goes fine

mental merlin
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oh noooo, they unify all installations 🙂 that means docker install is the same as os install? mindblown

placid sage
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I installed HASSIO from an standard rpi image. Hoe can I get SSH access outside of the docker to the underlying system?

humble mirage
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You don't, not really

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Why do you want that?

mental merlin
humble mirage
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Well, not really, the thing that was called hassio years ago does use Docker

sonic tundra
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My Home Assistant observer states my host as "Unhealthy". According to https://www.home-assistant.io/more-info/unsupported/software I should see which container is responsible for this in the supervisor log, but I don't see a related log entry in my supervisor log... Does somebody know how this would look like?

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Is there like a blacklist of containers somewhere?

high token
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Apart form Observer, has the Supervisor itself marked your installatio unhealthy?

sonic tundra
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no! Just unsupported

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I didn't know there was a difference

high token
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But I mean you have that there right?

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Not just in Observer

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and that buttton took you to that link?

sonic tundra
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So my observer looks like this:
Supported: Unsupported
Healthy: Unhealthy
I'm running some third party containers, so I get the "Unsupported" part and it's visible in my System overview (https://hassio.local/hassio/system) too
But the "Unhealthy" status is not visible in my System overview and I don't understand why it's there

drowsy briar
sonic tundra
drowsy briar
high token
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If you click on Learn More on the Unheatlhy message it should tell you exactly the reason it thinks it's unhealthy

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same way it tells you for the unsupported

sonic tundra
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I think I got the symptom but not the source: every time I visit the observer page I get a “ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.api.middleware.security] Invalid token for access /supervisor/info” message

high token
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That's why I asked earlier if you only say Unhealthy in Observer or also in Supervisor

sonic tundra
crude inlet
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@sonic tundra try ha core rebuild

sonic tundra
high token
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I also have that one too actually

grim onyx
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Now I'm going to check wether Debian has been installed as Legacy or UEFI.

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@raw hedge @high token looks like the Debian has been installed as "legacy" as I don't see any EFI partion.

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So, no wonder why it boots fine.

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Now flashing Debian mini.iso to the SSD - let's see if the live boots fine from it.

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Yes, SSD boots fine (but it seems because it's in BIOS mode).

high token
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BIOS mode?

mild quail
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Hi, I have a MiniPC dedicated to run HA and other self hosted tools. I've it installed as a container. Is the VM version (OS) better than the container?

humble mirage
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It's different

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That's like asking if a blue car is better than a green one

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||Clearly the red car is better||

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HAOS gives you add-ons, for installing software through HA's UI, and backups that stay on the computer by default (so not really backups)

mild quail
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yes, got it. It's basically everything I do with several containers in a single VM

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I think my concern is about the VM. Since I already need docker for my other things (self hosted stuff), makes sense to run a VM for HAOS, or continue manually maintaining docker is fine?

humble mirage
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If you already use Docker, continuing to use Docker makes sense

mild quail
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it's really tempting to have everything in one place and updates directly from within HA, but yes, it requires a new setup

high token
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unless what your self hosted stuff already exist as addons

mild quail
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well not everything, I have several custom things in containers

fervent coyote
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Hey all, question. I'm running an ESXi environment and was planning on just spinning up another VM to setup core... I'm not too familiar with containers and such, is there really any huge benefit to doing docker in this kind of scenario?

humble mirage
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Not having to install Python from source every other year

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If you have the skills to run a Core install then Docker is slightly more convenient since you don't have to worry about Python ever again

fervent coyote
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Hmm

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Why is that the case? Is it in the docker image or something?

humble mirage
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Yup

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So when Python 3.9 is dropped in another 10 months, you don't have to care since the Docker image will be using 3.10

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Repeat every December

fervent coyote
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Hmm ok

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I suppose I could give it a try

humble mirage
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Docker is awesome

fervent coyote
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Yeah, I figure... I guess my hesitation is I don't have any experience in it, and I suppose I could start here

humble mirage
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If you're already at home on Linux then it's pretty easy to learn to use

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Just ... use Compose and save yourself pain

merry galleon
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It will definitely be easier than the VM complexities....the only think you lose is addons with Docker

humble mirage
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"lose"

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So you have to add a few more lines to your compose file instead... the hardship

merry galleon
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still not as easy as having those addons 😜

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but agree with you. I started with docker cli, but will move to compose and also change the paths so everything can be easily backup

fervent coyote
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I can run docker on the ESXi, right?

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or is Docker a hypervisor?

humble mirage
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No, Docker runs on an OS and does "partitions" of the OS

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(known as containers)

fervent coyote
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I mean, I could just spin up a VM with ubuntu server and install docker though, no?

humble mirage
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Yes

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Though most of us would suggest Debian over Ubuntu, for stability over bleeding edge

fervent coyote
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Yall taking me out of my comfort zone. I love it, and I hate it.

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Though Debian shouldn't be too different

humble mirage
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It's very similar, just with more sensible policies for servers

ruby patrol
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I am looking to run Mosquitto broker on Home Assistant running in Docker (on Synology), but it appears I can not run a Supervisor version. Any help?

humble mirage
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Just spin it up in another container

ruby patrol
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Got it, I grabbed the eclipse-mosquitto container.

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I'm super noob and am unsure of the next steps.

fervent coyote
ruby patrol
placid sage
# mental merlin is is hassio or docker? because those two kinda contradict

I think I installed hassio (haos_rpi3-64-7.4 image) I disabled 'protection mode' from the ssh add-on, but the shell is still a shell inside a container. My HA seemed sluggish, so I wanted to look under the hood and because I am not used to containerized systems I do not trust the numbers I see inside the container.

mental merlin
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@placid sagetbh i know nothing about hasio my best guess is a hole operating system that if doesnt have ssh open you can do nothing

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i use docker only

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docker is easy for me

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and i can ssh into it if necessary

crude inlet
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@placid sage protection mode doesn't determine that. It's still a container. You can setup ssh to the host system using the dev docs.

grim onyx
high token
grim onyx
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Not bootin'

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Damn it. I feel dumb to have to resort to an external USB just to boot.

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Imma try older releases

placid sage
grim onyx
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Nothing, not even HAOS 6.6 can boot.

grim onyx
placid sage
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Questions about getting a bluetooth stick to work on the HA blue. Is this the right channel?

grim onyx
placid sage
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I am having trouble getting a bluetooth doongle to work on HA blue. IT is an "Asus BT400". It can't find the firmware. I download the firmware to "/lib/firmware", but it removes the firmware on reboot so I can't get it to work

grim onyx
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This is awesome. Same physical SSD, flashed with HA OS 7.4 x86-64. Hooked to the internal SSD port -> doesn't boot. Hooked with a USB adapter -> boots. 😱

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So the motherboard doesn't see the UEFI partition via SATA, but it sees it via USB.

low notch
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do you have raid configured?

grim onyx
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I think CSM is messing up

high token
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That's also so weird cos in most cases the generic image only boots on internal storage

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not usb storage

grim onyx
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I wish there was an easier way to share screenshots here via Discord

high token
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imgur is the easiest. It's copy paste

low notch
#

you can also give us a liveshow of your desaster in hangout

grim onyx
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Via SATA

high token
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so drive doesn't show up?

grim onyx
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Now I reboot and hook the disk via USB-to-SATA

low notch
#

I assume you already reset the bios to factory settings and also tried updating it?

grim onyx
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I reset it to factory settings, installed Win10 (because of course the Fujitsu BIOS flashing utility runs only through a full fledged OS...), and upgrade the BIOS to the latest and the greatest

low notch
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what is this? m92p ?

grim onyx
#

Ready for the show....

high token
#

I'd assume it's some BIOS setting being off

grim onyx
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Notice how the disk shows both as UEFI and legacy

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And notice how the same disk is missing from the case

grim onyx
low notch
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disabled safe secure boot ?

grim onyx
#

Lemme triple check @low notch

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Alright. I'm gonna call it a night and boot off from USB, saving the SSD for data only.

high token
#

You could put all these findings into a thorough github issue in the OS repository

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see what stefan has to say

grim onyx
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Yes I will @high token

grim onyx
#

Now via USB it only boots to the HASS-boot:/ prompt

# 
HAOS-boot:/ boot bootchooser
Booting entry "bootchooser'
Booting entry "system0'
mount: Invalid argument
could not open /mnt/system/bzImage: No such file or directory
Booting entry 'system0' failed
Booting entry "bootchooser" failed
Nothing bootable found
HAOS-boot:/ 1s /mnt/
system
HAOS-boot:/ 1s /mnt/system/
HAOS-boot:/
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This is how far I can possibly go

high token
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yeag it should generally not be able to boot off a USB

haughty matrix
#

Hi All, went through the 'check home assistant configuration' tool and it has come back with some errors, but i'm not sure where to start to be able to fix them?? Any help would be greatly appreciated
INFO:homeassistant.util.package:Attempting install of colorlog==6.6.0
Testing configuration at /tmp/config
INFO:homeassistant.helpers.storage:Migrating core.device_registry storage from 1.1 to 1.3
INFO:homeassistant.helpers.storage:Migrating core.entity_registry storage from 1.1 to 1.5
INFO:homeassistant.util.package:Attempting install of sqlalchemy==1.4.27
INFO:homeassistant.util.package:Attempting install of bellows==0.29.0
INFO:homeassistant.util.package:Attempting install of zha-quirks==0.0.66
INFO:homeassistant.util.package:Attempting install of zigpy-deconz==0.14.0
Fatal error while loading config: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/multidict-6.0.2.dist-info/METADATA'
Failed config
General Errors: 
- [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/multidict-6.0.2.dist-info/METADATA'

Successful config (partial)

merry galleon
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@haughty matrix Are you using docker?

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you may have to update mutidict manually.

haughty matrix
merry galleon
#

pip3 install --upgrade multidict

haughty matrix
merry galleon
#

yes

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terminal

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how did you install HA?

haughty matrix
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running supervised in a VM

merry galleon
#

I do not have much experience with supervised, but do have access to terminal?

haughty matrix
#

yes

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i have a cursor after [core-ssh ~]$

merry galleon
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try that command

high token
#

[core-ssh ~]$ that sounds like the SSH addon. You'd just be installing multdict inside the SSH container

haughty matrix
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ill have to hook up a screen to the pc i have the vm running on to get to the actual terminal screen.. will report back

crude inlet
#

@haughty matrix I would skip the config check addon. If updating fails or breaks things, then fix things. If you can't fix things, roll back to previous version

orchid pebble
orchid pebble
bronze stream
#

running HassOS 7.4 on Virtualbox (Windows 11 host)

my dns nameserver config isn't "sticking" when I edit through nmcli

I'm typing set ipv4.dns [address] and it doesn't seem to be updating when I type print

I'm doing this to try to fix the "preparing home assistant" hang

crude inlet
#

you need to save it, and then reload, but might as well reboot

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then check it

true badger
#

Supervisor tab missing on new installation

crude inlet
#

If you refer to the entry in the sidepanel, it is no longer there

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Configuration menu > supervisor in the UI

bronze stream
#

also should my main connection be called "Home Assistant OS default"

crude inlet
#

that is the default connection name, yeah

#

you don't see others if you use nmcli con show ?

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If you see another, it would be because you created it

bronze stream
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nah, only one

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just making sure things are correct

crude inlet
#

Is that what you are using?

bronze stream
crude inlet
#

basically the same

#

but nmcli isn't a container...

sand plover
#

Hey everyone, Can someone link me to a good quality touch screen display aroun 8-11 inches for Raspberry Pi 4?

bronze stream
#

hmm, when I type print on nmcli the ipv4 entry I'm looking for scrolls up too far on the screen and I don't know how to scroll it back down to see

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...okay so it did take, I just couldn't see it

crude inlet
#

@sand plover HA OS doesn't have any UI to display on it if that's your intent

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You're better off using such a screen on another separate pi, which connects to your HA install

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@bronze stream is it connecting successfully now?

sand plover
#

Oh, i cant paste a photo

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Isnt the frontend a HUB style display?

crude inlet
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@sand plover it's a server with a frontend that your reach from any browser on another device

sand plover
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@crude inlet So can’t I connect a display to my raspberry pi which is also running HA & go to the local host from the browser?

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Sorry I’m pretty damn new lol.

crude inlet
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@sand plover not using HA OS. It is a headless hub.

sand plover
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@crude inlet thanks, so what should I use?

humble mirage
#

For a Pi acting as a display, Raspberry Pi OS is hard to go wrong with

sand plover
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Ok so I need two raspberry pi’s? One to run HS & one to actually run the front end?

humble mirage
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Well, one to run HA and one to display the front end

sand plover
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HA* that’s a typo yep

humble mirage
#

It's a web service, so any web browser is all you need

sand plover
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But shouldn’t run the browser off the same pi running HA?

humble mirage
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You can't if you use Home Assistant OS

sand plover
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Oh gotcha

humble mirage
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(or Supervised, but nobody should use htat)

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Think of HA like a server, since it is, there's no local UI

sand plover
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Understood. So if I want to create a HUB for my new house, I should buy two raspberry pi’s and just fit them both to the back of the display I want?

humble mirage
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Well, you fit the one that drives the display there

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Not the one that runs HA, that goes somewhere sensible

sand plover
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True, like beside my modem or something hey

coral lily
#

Hi, I currently have HA running on my desktop but wanting to move to a Pi. I have a Pi Model 2+ available. Is it possible to get Supervised running on it or will I have to get a Pi 3 or 4?

humble mirage
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Supervised is a terrible idea

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HAOS will work, but it's not exactly going to perform well

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A Pi3 or better is advised, and really if you're buying new then buy at least a Pi4

coral lily
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Excuse my ignorance but why is Supervised a bad idea? I Can't get a Pi4 at the moment as they all seem to be sold out. Pi3 is possible though.

humble mirage
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Because it requires you to manage a Debian install to a very specific set of requirements

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If you run HAOS then the OS is managed for you, and if you run Container then you can do what you want

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Supervised is a tightrope

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(and a trap)

coral lily
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Gotcha. I may tinker with HAOS on the Pi2 and see how it performs. Would it be the Pi3 version to download for installation?

humble mirage
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There's a Pi2 version on GitHub

coral lily
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Excellent...found it. Thanks 👍

humble mirage
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Do expect the initial setup/install to take a while, maybe an hour or so

crude osprey
#

hey guys, any entrepneurs here ?

upbeat jetty
#

Is it okay to configure Zigbee2mqtt / Eclipse-mosquito / Home assistant as one docker-compose stack?

coral lily
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Boom....just found a Pi3 amongst my collection. Bonus 🙂

molten geyser
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can I use a Pi3B+ for HomeAssistant OS?

humble mirage
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Yes

molten geyser
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thank you!

humble mirage
placid sage
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I want to forward 8123 to my pi running HASSIO so I can tinker with it when I am not home. I am trying to gauge the safety risk, but I am pretty new to HA. How solid is the HA track record?

humble mirage
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HA itself is mostly fine, the weak point is usually the end user

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If you have a strong password and MFA then the risks are minimal. Even if you don't have MFA the risks aren't high if you're using a strong password (and not naming your account something obvious).

placid sage
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Always strong passwords, always 2FA when available. my 1password contains over 1600 items. I have had it for very long

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thanks for the link

jade apex
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If you want to secure it further you can A) run a VPN such as WireGuard B) limit access by host/ip through a reverse proxy like Nginx C) some modern routers allow a limit on source connection by IP before forwarding to a destination port

grim onyx
placid sage
jade apex
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That would be a problem for sure.

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my only suggestion would still be to use a reverse proxy + ssl and let er rip

low notch
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if you are a homekit user you don't need to expose anything

jade apex
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I never got around to trying HK -> HA. Right now I just tied HK into HA to speed up some services

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EcoBee is insanely terrible over their API vs HK

dawn flame
upbeat jetty
dawn flame
leaden quest
#

Can somebody help me with a couple of points regarding HAOS?
I have a dedicated machine (Intel Atom E3950 based fitlet2) and right away I noticed that Haos fails to boot if I install it on SD card (it fails somewhere in the middle of device initialization). Other Linux distributions work just fine, like Ubuntu or OpenSuse.
And if I install it on a USB drive then Haos does not use Intel P-state active governor - even though it is the default behaviour for other distributions.

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How can I fix these things?

crude inlet
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This isn't a traditional distro, but an embedded OS targeted at particular boards. If the generic image isn't generic enough for <random mini pc device> then there is probably something that needs to be added in order to support it.

leaden quest
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Unfortunately, I have no idea how to add anything into this image. And what exactly to add....
It uses intel_pstate driver, but it just does not set it active due to some reason.

delicate burrow
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I am running HA on Unraid docker. I just got a sonoff usb dongle plus and ive plugged it into the server but i dont see it show up in HA. Ive been trying to figure out how to pass through the USB to the HA container but with no luck. need some help

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/path/to/device:
ive tried/dev/bus/usb/007/001

humble mirage
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The last is the most likely to be valid

delicate burrow
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yeah that didnt work...

humble mirage
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The UnRaid forums may have more folks who understand it

delicate burrow
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ok will check

grim onyx
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Seems I'm not the only one banging my head on <random mini pc device> 😂

stone orchid
#

So, I can't use File Editor anymore. I know this is an addon and should probably be posted to the according channel, but I feel like this is more of a docker (or connection?) Issue (tinkerer asked me to post here):

Can't install homeassistant/aarch64-addon-configurator:5.3.3: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/homeassistant/aarch64-addon-configurator:5.3.3/json: Internal Server Error ("layer does not exist")

Is this somehow known and I've missed it? Searched the forum and found the ha supervisor repair command, but that didn't solve anything.
Also, the only thing happening was a restart of the host (via settings, not via unplugging power)

HA OS 2022.2.9 running on a raspi 4

crude inlet
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did you restart the host after removing file-editor?

stone orchid
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Actually yes, for basic troubleshooting I did that

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This is actually the output when trying to install it after host restart

low notch
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post the lines above this error

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is there a :53 error in there?

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then its likely dns

#

else i suspect your docker image layers got corrupted maybe

stone orchid
# low notch post the lines above this error 
Logger: homeassistant.components.hassio
Source: components/hassio/websocket_api.py:120
Integration: Home Assistant Supervisor (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 21:42:47 (4 occurrences)
Last logged: 22:33:27

Failed to to call /addons/core_configurator/install - Can't install homeassistant/aarch64-addon-configurator:5.3.3: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/homeassistant/aarch64-addon-configurator:5.3.3/json: Internal Server Error ("layer does not exist")
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This is all I get from the logs

#

Hmm, i am also getting invalid ref errors from supervisor, it seems to try resetting the repo's data and fails (?)

error: HEAD: invalid reflog entry 3f39ac38513546a07e02239a2d429e155cea7365
error: HEAD: invalid reflog entry 3f39ac38513546a07e02239a2d429e155cea7365
error: HEAD: invalid reflog entry 3f39ac38513546a07e02239a2d429e155cea7365
error: f7d899705ec93e405d73800d09c8b5705e5c5de2: invalid sha1 pointer in cache-tree
error: 5086ab79acf83e4b19c072d4545a573516c7b75f: invalid sha1 pointer in cache-tree
...
22-02-22 21:41:17 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue IssueType.CORRUPT_REPOSITORY - ContextType.STORE / a0d7b954
22-02-22 21:41:17 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new suggestion SuggestionType.EXECUTE_RESET - ContextType.STORE / a0d7b954
22-02-22 21:41:17 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.store] Can't load data from repository https://github.com/hassio-addons/repository
low notch
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that is... not good

crude inlet
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SD card maybe

stone orchid
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I only restarted it 🥲 😄

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Hmm, the whole raspi (including the SD card) is less than 3 weeks old

crude inlet
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Corruption isn't picky. Do you have power issues?

humble mirage
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Doesn't mean much, you can get a dead SD card in hours

stone orchid
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I mean, it's possible and I am open to check but I would be dumbfounded

stone orchid
crude inlet
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I would try reflashing and restore. Faster than trying a fix

stone orchid
crude inlet
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That's the way to do it

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But you may have had an issue before that

stone orchid
stone orchid
low notch
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if that error repeats a million times and it always retries the image rebuild... you might wake up to a dead pi

stone orchid
stone orchid
low notch
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you can have a bad sd anyway, this just makes it fail even faster

stone orchid
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Okay I'll check.. uhmm, stupid question and probably out of scope, but how exactly would I check SD card health?

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It's not like those things have S.M.A.R.T.

crude inlet
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I just keep a handful at the ready. Whether it is HA or camera storage or whatever...they go bad and I don't bother looking into it. Stuff starts halfway working and behaving erratically. Even if you reformat one and it seems to work, it will likely stop working again soon

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Once I moved away from the RP3 and used just about any other install method (yeah even the one that you shouldn't run) and hardware, I was free of the power and SD issues

high token
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people still use SD cards on cameras?

steel sky
#

I have a Compact Flash in mine…

grave scroll
high token
#

network storage 😛

magic lynx
#

not sure if this is the right channel but I have Home Assistant Supervised installed on my raspberry pi 4 currently running off an sd card. Is it possible to move the install data to an ssd without having to use the ssd to boot aswell

crude inlet
stone orchid
crude inlet
stone orchid
#

Good to know !

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Thank you all for your help, I'll do a fresh install and restore today

little swift
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any dev users around? just updated to todays dev20220223 and noticed some bad errors, and frontend couldnt be reached. before I could copy these errors in the log, the install somehow auto-reverted to dev20220222 ?? and update is available is showing again ofc..

little swift
raw ravine
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Hopefully someone could help me with it, but i am kind of noob as well in it. But I can't see mine supervisor option. I am running on:
Version
core-2022.2.9
Version
supervisor-2022.01.1

What I saw is that the supervisor ip is 172.x.x.x rather then the 192.x.x.x

high token
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You mean you cann't find where the Supervisor is?

raw ravine
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Well i know that there should be a button somewhere. And if i check integrations & Devices, i see the option Supervisor as well. But there should be a button on top of developer tools right?

high token
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that's on Integration page so it's a Supervisor integration

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used to be there yes

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but was moved

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look 2 more down past Integrations & Devices

raw ravine
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Add-ons, backups & Supervisor you mean?

high token
#

indeed

raw ravine
#

I only see this

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It just showed this error: 22-02-23 13:09:05 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.api.ingress] Ingress error: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer

abstract hearthBOT
crystal sky
#

Any use VMWare installed?

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I'm stuck “Preparing Home Assistant” here

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Error logs:

high token
high token
crystal sky
#

I just want to know how do I set proxy

raw ravine
raw ravine
#

It's running some time already and didn't see that it was gone. But in a while I am getting solar panels so wanna looks for that in HASS and then i figured it out it was gone

high token
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It was changed in 2021.12

raw ravine
#

hmm but where can i adjust the energy stuff then?

high token
#

it's in Dashboards

high token
#

For the life of me rebooting the host for HAOS when running in a VM in proxmox get's stuck here blobsmiletear

unknown.png
crude inlet
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@high token it's not doing the fallback?

high token
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what fallback? 😅

crude inlet
#

ay, for some reason I had an update in mind

high token
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In this case I did happen to be updating the OS haha

crude inlet
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probably because I just did an os update 😆

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oh ok then lol

high token
#

I have weird errors on supervisor

crude inlet
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See? Instincts.

high token
#

was checking if 8.0 (whatever date is latest) made them go away

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but the proxmox thing I got before/always during rebooting

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have to forcefully stop VM and start it up

crude inlet
#

dev20220223 here

high token
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yeah just updated (trying) to that version

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Seems to have gone now with latest OS release

crude inlet
#

ah mysteries

high token
#

but now complains about some of my backups ablobjoy

#

but at least unrelated to the OS that

raw tide
#

is there a way to fix this issue? I host my HA on a vm, which is running in ubuntu. yesterday I was trying to get all the networking stuff set up with like port forwarding and whatnot, and when I restarted HA, it no longer lets me connect on any device

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it says "firefox can't establish a connection to the server at <ip>"

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I even made a new vm with the same disk image and it still wont connect

gleaming river
#

Hey friends - if anyone has a second, was pointed here by Tinkerer for an issue I'm having with my file system - here's the original message I sent - thanks in advance!

Hey ya'll - can anyone point me to some literature on the file system hass.io os is built on? After reflashing, starting fresh and setting everything back up, I randomly got some notifications when I tried to edit my configuraiton.yaml that the file-system was read-only and I couldn't make changes - restarted core and then couldn't reconnect, but ssh was still up so I restarted the host and the entire pi went offline - are there any tools to diagnose/verify the file-system from OSX? Don't have the means to plugin a monitor to the pi currently, but I can go that route if it's necessary.

humble mirage
raw tide
#

yeah

humble mirage
#

Have you checked that you're using the right IP?

raw tide
#

yeah

#

just using the homeassistant.local thing

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worked before

#

I tried the ip aswell to no avail

#

one sec

crude inlet
#

did you confirm your network changes are what you expect them to be?

raw tide
#

I was kinda just throwing things at the wall and seeing if anything worked

#

really stupid

crude inlet
#

mmm

raw tide
#

i might have found something

crude inlet
#

so in the VM terminal you can check

raw tide
#

check what exactly?

#

like what changes happened?

crude inlet
#

yeah, ip address, dns, gateway, etc

raw tide
#

what command?

#

wait would doing rebuild for duckdns help possibly?

crude inlet
#

if you're at the ha> prompt then network info

raw tide
#

ah ok

crude inlet
#

if you're at the # prompt you can use nmcli

raw tide
#

I ran security info in the command prompt and it says pwned: true

#

thats normal right?

crude inlet
#

eh, depends on what you've done

raw tide
#

would that cause something to break

crude inlet
#

no

raw tide
#

also what is the duckdns addon name

#

if I were to issue a command

crude inlet
#

is the ip address what you expect to see

raw tide
#

in the terminal

raw tide
#

its what ive been using

crude inlet
raw tide
#

omfg

#

it worked

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i literally used that 5 minutes ago

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whelp thanks for the help

crude inlet
raw tide
#

well I now know that literally all the networking stuff I did yestarday didnt work cause it literally gave a "this website isnt secure" error lol

#

wait

#

I cant connect to it on my phone

#

hmmm

vivid nacelle
#

I'm looking to confirm my thought process. I am getting ready to move from a RPi to a laptop for my Home Assistant install. If HA is going to be the ONLY thing on there, I install the "Generic x86-64" variant, correct?

spring nymph
#

Why not linux + docker

vivid nacelle
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I'm not overly familiar with dockers. I suppose I could go that route.

high token
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if you don't know what you're doing nor do you want things that aren't available as addon, you should go with HAOS

#

that's what's it's for

vivid nacelle
#

I wouldn't say I don't know what I am doing, I am saying that my knowledge is limited to "I've been using HA for 3 months now." I know enough to get in trouble, break things, and fix most things. I'm no expert.

#

What version of linux would you suggest?

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I am familiar with linux mint and raspbian.

steel sky
#

Both are debian derivatives.

#

And that's an often recommended distro for servers.

orchid pebble
#

Debian

delicate burrow
#

Im getting a 400: Bad Request when accessing HA via reverse proxy (ha.exampledomain.com).
ive entered the use_x_forwarded_for in my config but still getting a bad request.

   base_url: secret! base_url
   use_x_forwarded_for: true
   trusted_proxies:
     - 192.168.1.163
     - 172.30.33.0/24```
vale mountain
#

I suppose this is more of a hyper-v question so I apologize, but I can't be the only one to run into confusion installing HA OS. The official hyper v instructions are outdated.

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I can only access the HA install on the machine the VM is running on

vale mountain
delicate burrow
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nginix proxy manager

vale mountain
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Ya idk I use caddy

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Nginx always seemed more confusing

delicate burrow
#

Nginx proxy manager actually is pretty simple.

vale mountain
#

Well......clearly not....

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Lol sorry

#

But I've never used it

#

So I can't say

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Caddy worked fine for me

#

On reverse proxyinf into ha

delicate burrow
vale mountain
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Its always some esoteric thing

delicate burrow
#

its a home assistant issue

vale mountain
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I think it's how you have your stuff set up

#

Like I said, I reverse proxied into HA perfectly with caddy

#

Do you have other services you're reverse proxying

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Like usenet shit or emby or Plex or something

delicate burrow
#

i think i might have to just scrap it and set up a fresh install. Im trying to recover an old install that worked well for a while then i stopped using it. so i tried using my old config but something is just not working.

vale mountain
#

Are you on debian or what

delicate burrow
#

unraid

vale mountain
#

I ran into some issues with like

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Oh forgot to put a forward slash

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Even on caddy

#

Which I feel is more forgiving than nginx

#

And subdomains and shit

delicate burrow
#

hmm

vale mountain
#

Im a civil engineer aka a tech chimpanzee

#

So idk what I'm talking about

#

I stumble along

delicate burrow
#

thats sounds like you work at the zoo

vale mountain
#

To give my wife free access to trashy tv shows

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Lol

#

And lord help me when friends and family get wind of that

delicate burrow
#

you really do need trashy reality tv sometimes though

vale mountain
#

Next thing you know you're on jdmwaaat buying a motherboard

delicate burrow
#

lol

#

dont remind me

vale mountain
#

One thing leads to another and I'm trying to tell my wife

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Hey, I only bought a single 10 tb hdd

delicate burrow
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gotta set up a bank account and secret credit cards to smuggle in new gear

vale mountain
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You gotta choose what seasons you want

vale mountain
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I told her it was a student loan

vale mountain
orchid pebble
vale mountain
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Idk I just suck at hyper V I think.

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So not really an HA thing

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Can't figure out yet how to access HA on the HA OS I installed in a VM on one machine, from other machines inside my home network

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I'll figure it out eventually but figured if someone else resonates with this it's worth asking

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To save myself time

vast turtle
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Morning guys, i'm sure ive already asked this before i think. At the moment im running a beautiful server that does exactly what we want/need. But, in the future we are going to move to a new house, there will be some camera's involved etc, so i expect a bit more load on the server.

Right now i run a i5 7400, 8gb ram and 10tb (raid0) headless ubuntu server.

Is it (at al possible) to migrate this whole system to a new computer? And how would one go about this?

high token
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@vast turtle I assume HA Container then?

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copying over everything from /config including all hidden files (.storage) is the way

jolly talon
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If I plan to start running HA and Frigate on my UnRaid server, what installation method would you recommend? Would I be able to set up an HAOS VM, and just run Frigate within that? Or would Frigate want to be separately run in a docker container or something?

placid sage
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Hello all,

Is there a way to stop all HA operations so that I can safely export a backup to migrate from my Pi to a VM? Every time I try, the database is corrupted after importing the backup to the new HAOS.
I assume this is because the database file changes while the backup is being created. Can I prevent this somehow?

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Also just in case. I have been reading it is not possible. But if I would take this migration as an opportunity to switch to MARIADB as the database, I guess there is no way I can keep my past sensor data? Like room temperature, humidity sensors, etc?

high token
open hull
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hey guys

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quick question

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i have a rpi but it runs pihole

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i have an server (old but decent pc) runnign fedora

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could i run home assistant on like a docker image?

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ping me with a response please

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( @open hull ) is a ping

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idk if other people call it a ping

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i do idk where i heard it

low notch
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@open hull yes you can

open hull
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i can

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but

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would it be better to use the rpi

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i could try and setup pihole on fedora

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which would be better do you think?

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like i know you probably dont have a lot of information to give an answer

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but like

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guess

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idk

low notch
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depends on <server> details

open hull
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wdym

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like

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fedora's specs

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here lets refer to fedora server as "fedora" and the rpi as "rpi"

low notch
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what versio rpi? what cpu? how much memory?

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you dont need a new line for each word

open hull
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oh alright my bad i just talk like that sometimes its a bad habit lol

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im sorry

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and the rpi is a 4b 4gb ram

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fedora has an intel i5-3470 14gb ram

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and i would do usb boot if i did rpi

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sd card boot is slow

low notch
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both can run pihole and homeassistant

open hull
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yea

low notch
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please. stop with the newlines

open hull
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sorry

grand pivot
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I was enjoying the haikus

open hull
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lets try one message. what im asking is which would be better to run homeassistant on, should i run it on fedora server or should i run it on the rpi. would docker be a pain? i dont like docker all that much

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i do need to learn docker eventually though

buoyant yarrow
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I run Fedora Server 35 on a Pi4 with an external SSD for my zwave server. Seems to run fine.

low notch
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run it on fedora. you can try migrating to pi and see if the performance is alright for you afterwards

open hull
buoyant yarrow
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Running the pihole container (podman is preferred over docker for Fedora) is the recommended method for Fedora, but I've never tried it.

open hull
open hull
low notch
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docker-compose, use it. look up how to use it. love it.

buoyant yarrow
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No, I only run a zwave server on it. I wanted it centrally-located.

open hull
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its been awhile since ive messed with it lol

buoyant yarrow
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podman commands are almost identical to docker. works with docker container images

open hull
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alright

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thanks!

buoyant yarrow
open hull
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thank you

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again

buoyant yarrow
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but as I said before, I have tried pihole

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haven't

open hull
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i would reccommend it, more for the local dns rules and stuff than actual ad blocking

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although ad blocking is very nice

jolly talon
high token
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Sorry no have zero experience with unraid

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I run on a separate machine just Debian and there all docker containers I want including Frigate

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then HAOS is on each own hardware. Currently on a RPi4

dawn flame
vast turtle
high token
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I suppose that's also an option

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I always prefer not to do that

vast turtle
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I see…. Hmmmm

high token
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but also I never needed to do that either

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aren't you anyway only changing to a better CPU or?

vast turtle
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Well, cpu would do the job. It’s just the motherboard that’s really limiting. But I’m also reading about pci cards that give me more sataports. In that case I could very well just only upgrade the cpu

high token
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if you aren't changing to another drive then there's nothing to clone to 😛

vast turtle
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Well I was having wild ideas of cloning from ssd to m.2

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But i suppose I could spare myself the headache and just only exchange the cpu

jolly talon
high token
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Nothing crazy really

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an SSD with the OS and therefore docker

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and just pointing Frigate's data folder to a 4TB HDD attached to it

jolly talon
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I see. In my case, I have an overspec'd unraid server that runs all my dockers right now. It has enough horsepower to throw HA and Frigate both on it (either as containers or inside a VM). Unless there is a reason why I'd want to invest in separate hardware to fragment things out

high token
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Well no in that case it's more than enough

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I don't have enough power on one machine to run everything together

jolly talon
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I see. In my case where power is not a limiter, which installation approach of HA and Frigate do you think would give me the least amount of problems on the software/setup side of things?

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i.e. a VM containing both, a mix of docker containers and VM, or all docker containers, etc.

crude inlet
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A VM would in a sense extend it further. You would have the addon store from HAOS in addition to the app store of unraid.

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They are both templated docker "app stores"

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But really it's just about whatever works best for you

low notch
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If you are capable in running containers all you need is docker imo

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i even use docker to control my kvm‘s

jolly talon
glass bobcat
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Good morning, I am having an issue with my Home-Assistant installation which leads to the situation, that I only have the file system left. The underlying OS is not working anymore. I am using hassos and I was asking myself, due to the fact that my scheduled backups did not work, how to get the latest settings and maybe images from this drive. Is that possible?

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I have for example a volume "hassos-data", "hassos-overlay" etc.

high token
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your data would be in hassos-data

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/mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant

covert granite
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Hello all, my updater entity says there is a new update and the
config/info page says my version is: Home Assistant 2021.11.5

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i'm on raspberry pi 3

high token
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docker pull alone will not actually install anything though right?

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I could run multiple docker pulls of images and all say they're up to date. But that refers to the pull

covert granite
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nevermind i figured it out, i'm actually using raspberrypi3-homeassistant:stable

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but i was checking for homeassistant:stable

high token
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I'm only just using homeassistant/home-assistant:stable

covert granite
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is it save to use on raspberry pi 3? what are the differences?

high token
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biggest difference is whether you pull from ghcr or from dockerhub if you'll be specifying that in the beginning

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the other part it's just letting it work out the hardware itself I guess

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you're explicitly telling it to grab the rpi3 image when you pull

glass bobcat
high token
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yeah /mnt is if you're doing it on linux

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but the path is the same

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for the folders

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in the homeassistant folder you'll find your config files

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if you have backups you want to get too those are in the previous folder

pastel jetty
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Greetings! I can't install the package due to an error:

cannot set a minimum Python version 3.6 higher than the interpreter version 3.1 (the minimum Python version is implied by the abi3-py36 feature)

How to fix it? maturin also fails to install. RUSTFLAGS can help? Help me please!

humble mirage
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humble mirage
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You need at least Python 3.9

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Or save yourself pain and use Docker

abstract hearthBOT
humble mirage
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@pastel jetty STOP POSTING CODEWALLS

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We can see the wall - the link is visible to us all

humble mirage
glass bobcat
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@high token What parts would make sense to "backup" before I kill the drive? The whole hassos-data volume? Or is that too much? Would it be possible to rebuild the original Docker images as well?

pastel jetty
humble mirage
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What do you get if you type

pip --version
python --version
pastel jetty
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Yes, I install HASS, all updates are installed, python 3.10

humble mirage
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What's the problem?

pastel jetty
humble mirage
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Ok, so what's the problem? You posted an error message earlier with no context to it

pastel jetty
# humble mirage Ok, so what's the problem? You posted an error message earlier with no context t...

cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=PYO3_CROSS cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=PYO3_CROSS_LIB_DIR cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=PYO3_CROSS_PYTHON_VERSION cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=_PYTHON_SYSCONFIGDATA_NAME cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=PYO3_PYTHON --- stderr error: cannot set a minimum Python version 3.6 higher than the interpreter version 3.1 (the minimum Python version is implied by the abi3-py36 feature) warning: build failed, waiting for other jobs to finish... error: build failed

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error: cargo failed with code: 101

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note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is likely not a problem with pip. ERROR: Failed building wheel for cryptography Successfully built homeassistant Failed to build cryptography ERROR: Could not build wheels for cryptography, which is required to install pyproject.toml-based projects

high token
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if not I would take the backup file so you at least can easily restore all your addons at once even if slightly outdated

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ten take everything in /homeassistant which is you/config

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dropping all that manually to override the /config of a new installation is the same thing (just need to make sure that you copy hidden folders too like .storage)

drowsy briar
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@devout shard

humble mirage
pastel jetty
humble mirage
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It looks like you're missing some key libraries

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What those are, I don't know, because you didn't use a code share site to share the full log

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If you switch to Docker you won't have this problem

placid sage
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Hello, are there any plans to raise the minimum Android version for the app to something higher than 5.0? Looking to buy a old tablet with outdated android. Just wondering how old I should go.

humble mirage
grave scroll
winter summit
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Hello guys, Is it possible in any way to install HA Supervised (instead of CORE) on a TrueNAS server?

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Should I install docker on my TrueNAS server and use the docker installation documentation? Or this just wont work too??

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Thanks!

brazen herald
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I would always recommend Docker over Supervised.

winter summit
brazen herald
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It depends on what you do, but if you set up docker now you can use it for the myriad of other things you will also need at some point.

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Supervised is only supported on vanilla Debian, so it’s highly likely you’d end up with an unsupported situation making life much more difficult and bug prone. But it’s your choice.

crude inlet
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@winter summit HAOS is an ecosystem which comes with docker and everything runs in containers. "Supervised" is a copy of that ecosystem on a different OS (Debian for supported status).

A vanilla docker install of HA is better because it is simple to update, supported, and you manage your own docker containers.

craggy citrus
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on a maC USING VIRTUAL BOX and cant load the .vdi-- keeps saying aborted

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its on a older mac system lion 10.7 so i downloaded an older version of virtual box 4.1 and matched the vm .vdi image with same--all goes good until i try start it doesnt complete

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am i in the right place

placid sage
grave scroll
placid sage
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Maybe this question does belong here:
I have 2 VM's with HAOS. One of them gave me an update notification for Core and OS. One I updated and it's running HAOS 7.4 now. The other one is still running HAOS 7.1. But there is nowl update notification. Can I force the update somehow?

grave scroll
placid sage
humble surge
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Hello, I am having issues with the supervisor on my HA OS install on rpi3. The panel won't load.
This morning I noticed because the zigbee lights didn't turn on. (deCONZ)
The observer shows that it's all good, but the system health won't show the health. I can access the system via SSH and tried the repair, that succeeds, but doesn't fix it. A reboot helps, temporarily.
This afternoon it happened again, so I downgraded HA OS because that's the most recent upgrade I did.
Unfortunately it happened again, just now, with HA OS 7.1 (before was 7.4)

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Could be my SD card is dying, but I don't see anything indicating that in the logs, or I'm looking for the wrong things.

spring nymph
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Change the sd against an ssd

placid sage
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ihave problem i have stucked on preparing home assistant much time

spring nymph
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If not yet the sd will soon die anyway

placid sage
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im connected via ethernet...

spring nymph
placid sage
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on preparing home assistant

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it says for 20 minutes but its much time

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it says error on home assisstant installation

high token
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any specific error it's mentioning?

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e.g. 505 docker error awaiting headers

chilly thistle
humble surge
knotty latch
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hi

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i plan to do the following:

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i want to use 2 zigbee coordinator usb sticks at 2 buildings

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but i want just one frontend.

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i will install one raspi with hasos, one stick and just z2m configured to use the mosquitto ob the main installation

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is that possible?

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what do i have to change (exept the url of the mqtt server)?

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will the zigbee devices of the 2nd installation automatically appear in the main view of the main installation?

steel sky
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@halcyon whale It should work just like any other container really. What network setting are you using?

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And are you forwarding to port 8123?

halcyon whale
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i have a static IP from my ISP

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no im not forwarding port 8123 since im using nginx proxy manager it forward through 80 443

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i tried forwarding 8123 but it didnt work either

steel sky
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I mean network setting for the HA container. network: host is recommended, but that can mess with some proxies sometimes.

halcyon whale
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yes network host

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its the setting im using

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i tried setting up swag but was unsuccesfull

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im also using cloudflare

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as dns provider and domain

steel sky
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I mean making sure nginx forwards 80/443 to port 8123 on the container

halcyon whale
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Yes that i made sure off in the nginx proxy configurration i forwarded the local ip address of the pi to 8123

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i did the exact same configuration i did for nextcloud omv and portainer for remote access, all work fine except for home assistant

steel sky
halcyon whale
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Should i change anything in the configuration.yaml file or something? even on the home assistant UI i changed the external url

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but didnt work

halcyon whale
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http:
use_x_forwarded_for: true
trusted_proxies:
- 10.0.0.200 # Add the IP address of the proxy server
- 172.30.33.0/24 # You may also provide the subnet mask

@steel sky what exactly should i populate in the ip address of the proxy server? my static ip provided by isp ?

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or the network ip on the rpi?

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in portainer?

high token
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@halcyon whale the IP of the proxy manager

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172.30.33.0/24 this would be if you were running HAOS where the proxy has an internal docker IP

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in your case I don't know what it would be

halcyon whale
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Im not running HAOS, im running bullseye with portainer and docker

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nothing seems to work, is there any step by step guide ?

orchid pebble
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Use the lan ip for it instead

crude inlet
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Is that 10.0.0.200?

halcyon whale
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proxy manager on docker also

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172.0.0.11 is my proxy manager ip

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tried it ddnt work

crude inlet
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That's what the config needs. None of the others.

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Can you share the http: config with formatting?

halcyon whale
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I just blew everything up and my pi is no longer booting im going for a fresh install

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once i have it up and running will share with u

distant cobalt
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Hi, I have been moving over my home assistant install from Docker to a HAOS install on kvm. I have installed and have been trying to get networking working. I created a NAT on the kvm which forwards to a bridge on my host device that includes my ethernet adapter. Everything looks good from the ha cli with network info showing everything. I am still unable to access from a separate device on local network. The host machine running the kvm is able to ping homeassistant.local but other devices say unknown host. Any ideas on how to access from devices on network?

humble mirage
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What about using the LAN IP, does that work?

distant cobalt
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As far as I can tell, using the ipv4 ip from "network info" on HA cli does not work and using the ip from host machine does not work.

humble mirage
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Are they on the same subnet?

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You didn't end up creating a separate subnet, but actually correctly bridged the adapter?

distant cobalt
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It does look like they are on different subnets.
Host machine ip: 192.168.0.24
kvm haos ip: 192.168.90.157

humble mirage
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Yeah, so you need to fix that

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Once you do that should solve your problem

distant cobalt
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Thanks! I'll go redo bridges

halcyon whale
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http:

server_port: 443

ssl_certificate: /data/compose/8/letsencrypt/live/npm-1/fullchain.pem

ssl_key: /data/compose/8/letsencrypt/live/npm-1/privkey.pem

use_x_forwarded_for: true
trusted_proxies:
- 192.168.1.103

Local Lan

- 172.19.0.0/24

Docker network

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@crude inlet this is my http

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not sure how to link the docker network or the local lan

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final oasis
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Hi so I've been reading on the forms and trying to figure out why I don't have Supervisor panel on my dash.
I'm running my HA install straight from the site under windows VirtualBox

grand pivot
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configuration -> Supervisor, Addons, ...

abstract hearthBOT
final oasis
grand pivot
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yes, Config. That icon

final oasis
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I see Add-ons, Backups & Supervisor
If I click on it I get Add-ons, Backups & System
If I go to system Supervisor is currently running

grand pivot
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what are you trying to do?

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if you're just confused about why it's not in the sidebar, it moved a couple of releases ago

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to where I pointed you to

final oasis
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Oh okay I was confused.
I'm trying to install portainer but it's not listed as a add-on.
Do I need to add some repos?

grand pivot
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it's no longer available

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you shouldn't be using it

final oasis
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gotta find another way to get homebridge to work then

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back to the drawing board lol
thank ya

grand pivot
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you should see if the devices you care about have native integrations

final oasis
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Nah trying to get nest to work

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I'll keep digging thank you

final oasis
#

on my VM it's asking for my login.
That's just the username and pass I used on the dash right?

grand pivot
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whatever you set up

final oasis
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it keeps saying they're incorrect but I literally just made in my pass manager.
There's no way they're wrong

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restarted the vm and it's fine now wtf lol

final oasis
#

on the next integration I got everything setup like the docs says but when I try to authorize my account I get this
No access to partner Information could not be retrieved. Please contact Nest HA to verify that your account has been properly set up. You may need to add the developer email address as a home member in the Google Home app settings.
But I have my gmail listed as a user like it says

grand pivot
boreal pilot
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Hi everybody, im trying to get my home assistant running on virtualbox over to a wired ethernet connection from wifi. But after i changed it, i dont get a ipv4 address in the commandline window. And i also cant get up and running on wifi anymore when i try to go back.
Anybody that maybe have seen the same?

low notch
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your host is on wifi?

boreal pilot
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No, it is wired right now.

low notch
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whats the issue then?

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bridging a wifi host is not trivial, stick to wired

boreal pilot
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When i write nmcli in cmd, i get that enp0s3 (my wired connection) is disconnected.

low notch
#

check virtualbox settings?

boreal pilot
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I did, its in bridged mode, name is eno1 which is the wired connection, adapter type is intel pro/100 mt desktop promiscuous mode = allow VMs, cable connected checked.
It worked 4 hours ago, when it were on wifi...

boreal pilot
#

I got it working! 😄

cosmic thorn
#

Hi, have not used HA in a long time. Think I got locked out because of wrong password too many times. How long do I have to wait / any way to be able to log on again? 🙂

humble mirage
#

There's no default lockout

cosmic thorn
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ok, thanks. I get 403: Forbidden. Know what that means?

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Im defo locked out, tried another IP and got the login straight away.. oh bother should have written down the username and password 🤓

humble mirage
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IP ban maybe

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If you enabled it

fallen vortex
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Stuck on preparing overnight:
ERROR (Syncworker_5)
[Supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assitant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant with tag 2022.2.9

I also see:
500 server error for http+docker
Client.timeout exceeded while awaiting headers

I made multiple attempts at this. I made it to the dashboard once but couldnt install add ons (supervisor got itself in trouble). So I reset the whole thing again but can get to the onboarding form again

halcyon whale
#

Hello guys, im having some trouble connecting nginx proxy manager to connec to my home assistant, ive tried almost everything and cant seem to get it to work.

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my setup is a :

  • rpi 8gb
  • omv 6
  • docker with portainer
  • nginx
  • home assistant
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nginx work fine for other apps however with home assistant im struggling to configure it and cant seem to find anything usefull online. any ideas?

humble mirage
#

What have you done?

grand pivot
#

and what trouble are you having?

abstract hearthBOT
halcyon whale
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i tried adding to the configuration.yaml file the https with subdomain