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humble mirage
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It does

autumn wedge
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until fiber gets connected i'll wait with it

humble mirage
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But, if you've got a decent password and enabled MFA then there's no real risks in exposing HA

sacred shell
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ssl/tls protects the session between the client and the server from eavesdropping, but does nothing to filter access attempts

autumn wedge
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i see.

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well 2fa it is

humble mirage
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TBH there's no good reason to not enable 2FA when supported

autumn wedge
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yeah i didn't know it was

sacred shell
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I don't think a VPN is an issue in your instance. The bottleneck is the bandwidth of your WAN, not the processing power of the client / server. Arguably SSL / TLS is worse in this instance because it only protects HA and other HTTP services. A VPN would protect everything and expose only one port to the WAN. I'm a big fan of minimal exposure

viral marlin
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question

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if i want to dowload the image of HA, should i get the 32 or 64 bit image?

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cause the pi is up and running, but i dont know if one image is better then the other

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ok thank you

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ok i flashed the sd card, connected it to the pi, pugged in the power and ethernet, now im letting the pi do its thing and i will see if i can connect ot it in 15 minutes

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its working

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LETSGO

mossy horizon
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Well - Seems like I will stay on Supervised.

humble mirage
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Correct

shy ledge
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My HA VM in VirtualBox started crashing on error: failed command: READ DMA. Any ideas why? It crashes every time I run ha core check or try to install addon.
It is very new installation. I not even got started with anything. Just added SSH and File Editor addons

mossy horizon
humble mirage
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So?

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Those don't require HAOS/Supervised

mossy horizon
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I know, but I'm lazy 🙂

humble mirage
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Then... you get to have an Unhealthy install that'll break at any time

mossy horizon
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I have off-site backup, so I'm covered.

humble mirage
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Backups aren't the problem, running an unsupported install is

mossy horizon
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Only thing that is unsupported (for now) is that I run it on Ubuntu.

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But I know Supervised is probably going to die sometime along the way.

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My plan is to get it up and running on a K8s-cluster when supervised is dead.

crude inlet
turbid rapids
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Hey! So the latest update broke my HA. How do I restore the unit with my latest backup?

crude inlet
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You can just roll back to the previous version of HA

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You don't need to restore a backup

turbid rapids
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how do I do that? cant even access the unit

crude inlet
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Unless the entire system is dead

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in which case I doubt it was an HA update which caused this

turbid rapids
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The moment the install was done the system crashed 😄

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If it's not the Russians I'd say it was the update 😛

crude inlet
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So what are the details of this install?

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What's it running on, what access do you have, does it power on, etc

turbid rapids
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wait, I copied the config.yalm in the backup zip directly over to the config folder and now I can enter it again

crude inlet
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you said you had no access?

turbid rapids
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I could enter it trough Samba

crude inlet
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That counts

turbid rapids
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in a windows 10-window

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but not login to the HA

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but what else could it be if not the update?

crude inlet
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copying your config would not change the version

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so it's updated now or did the update fail?

turbid rapids
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ah under config it says new update avalible

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so I guess it failed

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So just try again?

crude inlet
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If you install and configure one of the two ssh add-ons, those will also run even when you have no frontend just like the samba service does

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Then you can check logs or restart or roll back using the custom commands if you have issues

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You should also be copying backups from the /backup directory off of the device and storing them elsewhere

turbid rapids
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I update them to OneDrive I think

crude inlet
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So yeah, try again, but I would be prepared for it first

turbid rapids
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but what SSH addons should I use?

crude inlet
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you think...🤔

turbid rapids
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nono I'm sure! they're there on my OneDrive 😄

crude inlet
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either ssh addon is fine.

turbid rapids
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Ok and with them installed I can like access it's console even if HA doesnt load?

crude inlet
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right. Well, "a" console...it's still a container

turbid rapids
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ok but how do I access it?

crude inlet
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but there's a custom command line you can use with various commands to check out logs, restart or shutdown, restore backups, etc

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I think Windows supports ssh out of the box now but there's also putty

turbid rapids
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but I have Samba, isnt that enough?

crude inlet
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I'd try from Windows terminal first

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Samba is fine for accessing the files

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You can't send any commands

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The two together give you a lot of choices

turbid rapids
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Ah ok, gotta learn that SSH then.. but so trough the cmd in windows I can access and give my HA commands then

crude inlet
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right

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start simple

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choose the ssh addon from the official repo

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enter a user and password in the addon config

turbid rapids
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cool thx

crude inlet
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make sure the network port is set to 22

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and not disabled

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then start it

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then open cmd and use ssh your-user@ha_ip_address

turbid rapids
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cool, and what at the basic commands? restart? restore backup?

crude inlet
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rolling back would be ha core update --version=2022.2.9 for example

turbid rapids
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Ah! ok

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how long should the update to 3.0 take? its been going now for 5 mins 😄

viral marlin
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ok, i got openmediavault working, now i need to install HA on top of it

crude inlet
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I thought you just got your pi?

viral marlin
copper ocean
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Hi HA's experts 😄
A quick question regarding Unifi Network integration.

It asked me about "Host" where do i find this?

viral marlin
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i just crashed my pi so dont worry i cant help xD

humble mirage
viral marlin
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question. can i integrate a program into HA?

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can i for example ask it to tell me the storage status of my nas ?

humble mirage
viral marlin
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oeh

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cool

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thank you :D

humble mirage
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So ... yes, mostly

viral marlin
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:D

ruby meadow
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Hi I just updated my VM to home assistant os 7.4 and now it fails to start .
I see waiting for the home assistant cli to be ready
Followed by
Cannot connect to the docker daemon at Unix:///var/run/docker.sock. is the docker deamon running?

ruby meadow
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Is there any way to boot into some kind of backup or safe mode to downgrade the home assistant os version?

shy prism
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Ok.... Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but here goes: I have HA Supervised on an old laptop running Ubuntu. I took a full backup of this install, and created a VM of HAOS on my Unraid server. I start the VM and get to the initial startup/onboarding page that has the option to either create an account or restore a backup. I choose to restore, select the backup I saved from my other machine and click "open"....aaaaaaand Update Failed. 400 Bad Request. Any ideas?

brazen herald
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My backup was too big to upload, so I set it up from scratch, installed Samba, copied the backup on, and restored from the backup then

shy prism
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How big is too big?

brazen herald
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It was a few extra steps, but solved the issue quite nicely. (I should have copied the file off of USB, but I wasn't actually at home when I did this)

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Well, over 1GB they recommend the path I just suggested with Samba

shy prism
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Gracias. I'll give it a shot.

brazen herald
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But it depends on a number of things, 400 means bad request, so it could be that the file was too big, couldn't be read, or something else went wrong. If you were on the beta and are trying to restore on a non-beta OS, that could be the culprit, any number of things.

ruby meadow
orchid pebble
shy prism
# brazen herald It was a few extra steps, but solved the issue quite nicely. (I should have copi...

So....I moved the backups from the old machine to the new one with Samba. The three most recent ones (the only full backups) don't show up in the backup manager. Supervisor logs show something resembling the following:
22-03-03 19:48:20 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.backups.backup] Can't validate data for /data/backup/9d772a71.tar: expected str for dictionary value @ data['protected']. Got False not a valid value for dictionary value @ data['crypto']. Got None

brazen herald
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Are you running the same version of Home Assistant on both devices?

manic bane
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How hard is it to go from HAOS to container, want to start the migration 😄

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I presume it’s extract the backup from HAOS and then put config folders where they need to go

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But then is that it?

jovial rampart
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Who cares how hard….just do it and don’t look back. You won’t be disappointed. Obviously no one can predicted your upgrade path, but your post is not far from reality

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The backup is just a zip file of your config so look at it before you transition to make sure it is all there

manic bane
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But yeah easy. Will give it a shot. Kinda sick of HAOS and wanna try to simplify things

jovial rampart
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If you are linux savvy…..docker is shit hot

manic bane
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I am starting to get Linux savvy. Getting the hang of docker

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So feel comfortable trying it out

shy prism
median steppe
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Hi all, i'm currently running home assistant in docker on a synology 420+. When initially setting this up I wasn't aware that this would be a sort of modded down or incomplete version of home assistant. It seems to be missing the supervisor functionality. My question is, is there a version I can install on my synology 420+ that has full functionality?

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Or better yet is there a way to add the missing functionality into my current setup?

jovial rampart
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Yes and yes

crude inlet
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and no

jovial rampart
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Addons are just docker containers….so, you can either run the service as a container or just install what you are looking for. Backup are the same thing….find something that fits the bill

crude inlet
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The missing functionality is the add-on store. Synology likely has it's own store which covers a lot of it

jovial rampart
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And throw away the crutches

crude inlet
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yeah yeah

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"docker is great!"

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"but someone using docker to create a specific ecosystem is bad and crutches"

jovial rampart
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Ok, synology 420+ is old, but …… docker is docker….or am I wrong ? What exactly do you mean by a specific ecosystem?

crude inlet
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You were suggesting to throw away the synology?

jovial rampart
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No, supervisor and addons

crude inlet
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I meant the home automation ecosystem using docker that HA OS provides

median steppe
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So fairly new to docker, just picked up the synology 420+ not too long ago and have been toying around with it. I went to the docker registry and it seems to have a variety of choices to choose from. I think what you're saying is install something like homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor and it should add the supervisor functionality to my current setup? or am I wrong?

crude inlet
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No. You would create your own supervisor functionality

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without an actual supervisor

median steppe
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How do I do this?

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all i'm looking to really do is get access to HACS so I can add some smart plugs that aren't showing up currently

crude inlet
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You get HACS in any installation of HA.

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It's a custom integration that has nothing to do with the supervisor

jovial rampart
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I was under the impression he was already running the docker install of HAss …..because that’s what he said

median steppe
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Oh I was following a guide that made mention of enabling SSH in supervisor to eventually be able to install HACS

crude inlet
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There are the docs at hacs.xyz which explain how to add it in all installation choices

median steppe
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Okay i'll check out the site

jovial rampart
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First, go to config/settings/info and confirm your installation type for us

crude inlet
manic bane
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With docker is there a gui/ web based application so I can monitor containers without having to use the terminal?

jovial rampart
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No….but you don’t need that

crude inlet
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Doesn't containerstation kind of provide that?

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I don't have a synology. I'm just assuming

jovial rampart
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‘Different person

manic bane
jovial rampart
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Yes

crude inlet
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oh right

jovial rampart
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sudo docker ps -a

manic bane
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Hmm okay. I like easy management but also if it works fine otherwise then I’ll live with it

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I just don’t want to ssh all the damn time 🤣

jovial rampart
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Embrace it

median steppe
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Cypher looking for HACS

crude inlet
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Well, there is something. But you shouldn't use it

manic bane
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Or am I getting confused

crude inlet
manic bane
crude inlet
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It's kind of an orchestrator, like the supervisor, but it has even funkier things going on

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So if you're looking to ditch that "feel", portainer is just going to be a different version of it

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And then there are users who run HAOS/supervised and portainer, and it becomes a battle of the orchestrators

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You'll want to focus on docker compose

jovial rampart
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@manic bane , dm me….I will try and get you up and running on docker-compose

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You won’t regret it

manic bane
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I feel better when I can make it work myself 🤣

jovial rampart
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Yes…it is late here anyway 🤣

manic bane
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Only 3pm here

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Work till 5:30 lol

jovial rampart
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What is your host os?

crude inlet
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I dunno...pdobrien3 is hardly ever here 😆

manic bane
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I’m gonna spin up another vm for HA & related dockers- so either Debian or Ubuntu server depending on what I’m feeling

jovial rampart
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Crap… 11:00 here is late for me

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Debian

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Feel it

crude inlet
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rub on it

jovial rampart
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Ubuntu is not supported

manic bane
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Time to learn how to set up Debian too. Exciting

jovial rampart
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Easy peasy

manic bane
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I hate my life which is why I’m happy to try it. I already virtualised my windows desktop last night 😂

jovial rampart
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Besides, I am hardly ever here so…..

manic bane
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I feel you come by at least once a week 😛

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Worst case I’ll ask atx and receive a 🤢 response lol

jovial rampart
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Atx 🤢 is better than hassos any day

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Good night. Will do what I can to help 😉

manic bane
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Hassos is great for beginners. Now is time to start entering the real world

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Night!

median steppe
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Hey so I got HACS and my integration installed. I have my API key for the integration I just don't know what to set my poll interval to . . .

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it's defaulting to 10 should I just leave that alone?

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lol that was pretty much my reaction as well

grand pivot
median steppe
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It's for govee smart plugs that I use around the house

grand pivot
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And the docs for it

fossil maple
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Hello, I digged some more into the "local speaker" matter. I can't find any viable use for them. This makes me question: what's the use of hassio-audio?
Don't mean to be sarcastic. Would you help me understand why there should be a local audio system, when you can't almost use it?

ruby meadow
mortal prism
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hey guys, I'm having a problem with my front end not working
I recently restored a backup after messing up some scripts and configurations, but after restoring, I can no longer access the front end interface
the cli still works from a physical screen as well as samba. the supervisor on port 4537 reports everything as healthy, but I cannot seem to get into the control interface

low notch
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whats the url youre trying?

mortal prism
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the router provisions a fixed ip according to the raspberry pi's MAC

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I had my backup files saved to google drive, so I decided to pull them and restore it on a fresh install, but after restoring, I get the same problem

low notch
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did you specify certs in your config?
do you get a warning in your browser or a 4xx?
go with the ip, .local is something you can try later on

mortal prism
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as for certs, I'm not too sure.

low notch
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then try http:

mortal prism
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http doesn't work either

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Oh yeah then I did specify certs. My setup is quite mature already. It was working fine for over a month

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but then it suddenly stopped working

low notch
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then... i recommend taking a look at the logs

mortal prism
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ok

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I can't seem to ssh into my device, but I am able to pull the logs directly from the cli

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is there a way I can copy and paste out the logs without ssh

low notch
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you can pipe them into | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io or similar

arctic cliff
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hi, can any one help me i have a big issue i hav deleted my statistics and now after restart the host the disk space is full (90.4%) can anyone help me restoring my db

mortal prism
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I've gotten the logs

low notch
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Setup failed for http: Invalid config.

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might be your specified certs missing in the backup

mortal prism
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Hmm

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I've restored backups in the past before, and this is the first time I'm encountering this

maiden mauve
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I've always had this problem and I'm hoping someone can help

I have HassOS running on VM box. I'd like to clone it so it's easier ti fiddle around with the clones, but I always get the following when trying to run the clone no matter what settings I change when cloning

https://imgur.com/8jn1vAn

Really hoping someone can help

mortal prism
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I get this error when I try and restore my latest backup file

mortal prism
low notch
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i dont run this install, I have no idea about a ssl.tar file

mortal prism
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Alright thanks

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Will ha start if I simply use a blank configuration file

low notch
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blank? no

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remove the lines with the certs? possibly

novel moon
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I'm trying to understand what's recently caused my VM not to reboot. I've recently removed some outdated/old integrations that I no longer use, but no big changes like an os/core upgrade (I'm performing that this morning).
Everything looks okay, it just gets hung at reboot: Restarting system , which forces me to have to stop the VM. I'm going to see if I can pul add't logs, but I wouldn't think an integration change would cause it to hang just before rebooting.

mortal prism
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I've tried restoring snapshots that are 2 weeks old on a fresh install and still no dice

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I'm getting this error in the supervisor

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WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'OSManager.update' blocked from execution, system is not running - CoreState.STARTUP

molten rune
viscid sigil
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If it doesn't it will update as part of the start up process.

mortal prism
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It's been stuck like that for a while

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no matter how many times I restart

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when I try to do ha backups restore [slug] it says "processing complete" and then nothing else happens

whole ember
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Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me with a processor usage issue I'm having. Every morning at 4:10am it seems my cpu usage spikes and stays up there. Only fix I can do is restart core. I believe this may have something to do with the db and recorder? Maybe? Any ideas? Thanks

https://i.imgur.com/d497Z1A.png

novel moon
mortal prism
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Thanks for the help

edgy spindle
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hello there is someone that can help me?

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I have the following error : Cannot setup SCSGate component: [Errno 2] could not open port 192.168.1.127: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '192.168.1.127'

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anyone knows what I can do?

humble mirage
forest tapir
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Is there any way to stop this?

patent compass
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Hi everybody, I would be very thankful for some help I just few hours earlier started home assistant but I have issues with persistance after reboot of server ( always prompted to start from scratch == onboarding sequence)

there are containers that i have running can u tell me what i can do to mount or someway preserve data after restart of server ( I am very new to docker)

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I am using docker with supervisor

abstract hearthBOT
patent compass
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duno what is relevant really

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If there will be someone willing to resolve it I can also share screen and tolk in hangout 🙂 it would be great

humble mirage
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Did you use Home Assistant OS?

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Or, did you use Supervised?

patent compass
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nope. Ubuntu server LTS

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supervised

humble mirage
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Well, good news, you done goofed

patent compass
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what 😄

humble mirage
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Supervised is not supported on Ubuntu

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There's a whole bunch of warnings you carefully ignored

patent compass
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but it works ( until i reboot) 😄

humble mirage
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So, doesn't work

patent compass
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what do u recomend pls 🙂

humble mirage
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It's also the install method for people who're already Docker and Linux experts

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I recommend that nobody runs Supervised

patent compass
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😄 addons

humble mirage
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If you're not a Docker guru use HAOS

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You can run HAOS in a KVM VM on your Ubuntu box

patent compass
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I just need couple of addons and https enabled

humble mirage
patent compass
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ok then, I will try to get rid of thing I have installed and try from the start

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thank for now 🙂

patent compass
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do you have any suggestions what to check?

crude inlet
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What is the local address?

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Is it an address on your network?

patent compass
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if it would be better i can share screen in room "hangout" 🙂

edgy spindle
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SCSgate

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Hello I need. help to install SCSgate

raw hedge
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Wtf is scsgate

forest tapir
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They all share the same thing in that they say crond[429], so does that mean they're all generated by the same application?

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They all have different PID numbers, however

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So they all use the same system managed executable that schedules tasks, makes sense since they all reference times like 15min and hourly, but they're all generated from different processes as noted by their differing process identification number?

raw hedge
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Install method?

forest tapir
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Home Assistant OS in a VM

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Maybe they're just printed out log details? If so can I stop them from printing out?

raw hedge
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Take backup, take new vm and 👍?

forest tapir
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Tried that. Same thing happens as soon as I restore

low notch
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cron spawns processes, the PID is a growing number

raw hedge
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What I always did when I used ha os

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What about fresh

forest tapir
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A fresh install with nothing running doesn't do it, no

raw hedge
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So some integration or config is having a bad time

low notch
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i suspect addon

forest tapir
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Can I just stop all addons from printing out to console?

raw hedge
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Possibly, I would restore without any addons next

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See if all is good and then add them one by one

low notch
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usually they should not log to TTy1 ever

forest tapir
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How do I stop them from doing so?

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Can I identify what the process is from these CROND and PID numbers?

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I don't know Linux very well, unfortunately

low notch
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do you have schedy or a backup addon running?

forest tapir
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Yea I have the Google Drive one but it only runs once a day at 4am

low notch
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crons job is to trigger it at this time

forest tapir
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Does the PID tell me what the application is doing this every 15min/hourly?

low notch
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i‘d expect a issue on gh if its really the gdrive addon

high token
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it's definitely an addon cos the OS doesn't even have crond

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I had it too. Differed PID though

forest tapir
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OK so how do I identify which add-on and silence it?

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In windows I would just use the task manager

high token
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I just ignored mine 😅

forest tapir
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I can ignore it, and it doesn't break anything

low notch
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disable one by one

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see if it stops

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report a issue on the addongs GH page after

forest tapir
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I wonder if it has anything to do with the SABNZBD issue myself and a bunch of other people have talked about

low notch
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i dont use addons, i dont use sabnzbd, no idea

edgy spindle
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anyone can help me to installl SCSgate?

forest tapir
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We have a fix for this but no one is answering our thread and no one can figure out how to get HA to accept the 2 files we need to fix the problem

low notch
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we still dont know for sure if it belongs to this

raw hedge
edgy spindle
raw hedge
low notch
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it's used by 0 active installations

edgy spindle
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yes I think so

low notch
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if you get a proper error, report it on GH, last development changes happened in Jan so seems its still maintained

patent compass
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I am sharing screen in room Hangout

stuck sentinel
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Hello, I just got a odriod N+ that I was super pumped to get HA installed on. The installation was super quick and I was able to flash the sd card that I had on it without issues. The problem arrives when I connect it via ethernet to my Eero router and attempt to connect to it via homeassistant.local:8123 which doesn't turn anything up. I then went to go find the IP address within the eero app on my phone and I'm not seeing the device show up within the app. Could someone help and point me in the correct direction for getting this up and running?

crude inlet
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@stuck sentinel it needs ethernet to set up, so how did you do that?

stuck sentinel
crude inlet
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Ah ok. The next part is to plug in Ethernet and then power it on. It would then get an address, and start downloading what it needs to complete setup

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This is an N2+ ?

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With emmc?

stuck sentinel
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Yes a N2+ with a 8 gb MicroSD.

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I've attached the ethernet and powered on but I haven't gotten any luck.

crude inlet
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Hmm. 8 gb is not going to be enough

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It will be 6 to 7 GB when it is done

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Leaving you not much room for much else

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You can attach a keyboard and monitor to see what's happening

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32 GB is recommend

stuck sentinel
vernal stirrup
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I'm trying to get HA installed on a rpi 3, but can't get video output. Things I tried:

I verified that the pi works by sticking in a different card with ubuntu server on it.

With a HA on the card I get no video output. Red light stays on, green light stays off. Pretty clueless about what could be the problem 😦

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Ok, never mind 🤣

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This RPI that was collecting dust is actually an RPI 2

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Feeling pretty stupid

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Wow, RPIs are completely out of stock everywhere 😱

somber pike
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Trying to get monitor.sh working with mqtt; do I really need to install mosquitto, I dont want to run the server on it. Thinking it's enough with mosquitto_clients ?

balmy apex
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Is there an mqtt broker somewhere?
Don't really understand what you're doing, though

somber pike
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Yes, I have another broker on the network

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followed guide on the git, but nogo, then I saw some comment from tinkerer that server also needed to be installed

ornate isle
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So, just updated my container to the most recent, and realized the binary updater is deprecated. Using the version integration now to keep a handy indicator of updates, but I have a question about which image and board should be tracked

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Running with docker-compose on a Pi4 raspbian buster (not 64 bit, IIRC) .

Should I just be tracking the qemuarm image and RPi 4 board?

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My mistake. Raspbian bullseye. So, qemuarm-64 and Rpi4-64 for the board?

balmy apex
high token
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should be the same

ornate isle
#

Stable

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It wasn't terribly helpful, but I checked my docker-compose.yaml first

high token
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you could also just use default since you'll never have a release for only one of the hardware

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raspeberrypi4 is what you'd want though not qemu

ornate isle
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But, I'm not using a prebuilt ha image for the pi. It's basically just linux and docker compose. It made sense to me that it's got to be the only one that detailed my architecture, qemuarm64

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Ok. I'll give it a shot with default and rpi4

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Thanks for pointing out that bit about all the rpi versions being released together I spaced that.

high token
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qemu is for virtualisations

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generally speaking at least it should be the case. Very rarely some versions can /have been pulled for certain hardware

somber pike
balmy apex
somber pike
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exectly those, and broker fails to install on pi zero w, but I figured since I run the broker on another machine; it shouldnt be needed? but then I found commented that it is needed.

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Tried running without, but scripts promts that it needs to be installed.

balmy apex
somber pike
balmy apex
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libmosquitto1 libmosquitto-dev as well?

somber pike
#

Yupp, still installs with errors; reinstalled buster but same issue

somber pike
#

Enough time with this, iz broken

turbid rapids
#

Having hard time installing the new updates suddenly... how come? The loading takes forever and ends in no installation done

viral marlin
#

question, i have not been ableto find any documentation on this. how do install HA inside docker or container ?

grand pivot
viral marlin
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and if i try to do it inside openmediavault ? cause then its shows the web version and it differs from the instructions given

visual yacht
#

I'm trying to install HASSIO on a Linux machine host using VirtualBox. I've followed the process suggested by DigiblurDIY, double checked everything for accuracy. However, the VM only appears to boot to the UEFI shell in my NUC. Can anyone suggest an obvious or typical error people make? My NUC. an 8i3BEF, is running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. The end state of the boot attempt reads: UEFI Interactive Shell v2.2; EDK II; UEFI v2.7; Mapping table; <TAB> Blk 0; Blk 1; Press <ESC> in 5 sec...; Shell>

proven apex
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When I try to install a new package through HACS it does not download all the files, and it just hangs with a spinning circle forever

turbid rapids
#

It seems that 3.0 made my machine instabile, but when I do
ha core update --version=2022.2.9 om the Terminal it doesnt downgrade the machine.. how come?

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[core-ssh ~]$ ha core update --version=2022.2.9
Processing... Done.

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still it stays on 3.0

grand pivot
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The docs do not have an =

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Otherwise, ha su logs

proven apex
#

How can I view the log of HACS? It does not download the full plugin and then it says It seems like you don't have any repositories downloaded in this section yet.

abstract hearthBOT
#

Home Assistant Community Store is the successor to the old Custom Updater, and can do so much more - you should check it out. They even have a Discord server for issues with HACS itself.

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grand pivot
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It's in the FAQ there

turbid rapids
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trying to do a ha core check and it says Processing for some minutes but then it ends without any info in the window?

turbid rapids
#

Did another update and now it added 6 more yellow lined under [supervisor.misc.tasks] saying watchdog found problem with Grafana Application and Observer plugin

grand pivot
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Try ha su repair

turbid rapids
turbid rapids
turbid rapids
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I tried to restore a full backup some days ago. How long does that take? I started the restore but can still not access the HA

turbid rapids
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Ok I managed to load the 2.9 version... I guess I just try again and upgrade to 3.1? I do have a Raspberry Pi 3 with only 1GB RAM.. but I only use 36% of the storage.. and memory use is at 78% ... shouldnt be a problem right?

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I guess a Pi 4 with 8GB RAM would be better hardware?

viral marlin
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to my knowledge as long as your not using 100% ram it should be fine

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btw, does anyone know how to install HA using portainer web, the site only gives instructions for installed portainer and not web

viral marlin
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i did it !

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i got HA installed on top of OMV

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LETSGO!

silver ridge
#

good day all
i need help
i am new to this automation thingy
i have a problem
my installation on a windows virtualbox is stuck at preparing home assistant
can anyone help

viral marlin
silver ridge
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thanks for your response

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let me send you a picture

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it seems i cant send screen shot

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the first screen after you install

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it is showing that it may take 20 mins

viral marlin
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if it says its setting up, let it set up

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its doing its thing

viral marlin
silver ridge
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its been 2 days

viral marlin
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okey thats not supposed to happen

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i would say, retry the process

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start from scratch, and wait 20 minutes when at the screen. if it doesnt work after redoing it contact again

silver ridge
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i have repeated the process 3 times

viral marlin
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uhhh

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then i lack the experience to help you

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sorry

jovial rampart
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Which install method are you trying? I am guessing hassOS? If so, which image did you use? Also, please do not cross post.

silver ridge
jovial rampart
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Ok, can you provide a link of where you are getting that?

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And can you see any logs?

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And your VM is running Linux correct?

silver ridge
silver ridge
jovial rampart
silver ridge
jovial rampart
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Without any logs of what is going on, kinda hard to check much more.

visual yacht
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sadaunhe1 — Yesterday at 5:37 PM
Can anyone advise me what to try next? I'm trying to install HASSIO on a Linux machine host using VirtualBox. I've followed the process suggested by DrZZs; IU've double checked everything for accuracy. However, the VM only appears to boot to a UEFI shell (?). Can anyone suggest an obvious or typical error people make? My NUC is an 8i3BEF, it's running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. The end state of the boot attempt reads: UEFI Interactive Shell v2.2; EDK II; UEFI v2.7; Mapping table; <TAB> Blk 0; Blk 1; Press <ESC> in 5 sec...; Shell> (edited)
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patent compass
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Hi, I would like to setup SSL https on my home assistant vm. I have already set uped other services with ssl certificates on the server (ubuntu server) for my domain but not sure what is the right way of doing it on vm and if it's possible to set it up throught webmin or virtualmin... Thanks for suggestions
( if possible tag me in responses, thank you)

near oracle
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Hi! 🙂 First post. Bumping the SSL post above. I'd like to assign an SSL cert to "homeassistant.local"... not to any publicly resolvable host/IP... "homeassistant.local" already resolves locally with no issue, so I do not need a local DNS server. I don't care about remote access, so DynDNS/DuckDNS might do more harm than good. I have read lots and watch numerous videos, but all of them (that I have found) have the goal of remote access with SSL. Am I making this too hard? Will the NGINX ssl proxy let me do this? Or is the nginx proxy going to force me to use an external host/IP? (Goal: There are a couple of desired addons that require SSL but do not require remote access.) Also, I am running HA on a Hyper-V VM, I will likely get a RPI at some point. Many thanks! I will try this route: https://www.floriangaechter.com/blog/valid-https-certificate-for-local-home-assistant-installation/

humble mirage
upbeat tusk
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Hello all, tonight I wanted to test out an automation that I had an idea for. I opened the HA app on my phone only to be greeted with the "Cannot connect" message. I retried several times but it wasn't able to connect... Apparently my HA had locked up. I run HA on a raspberry pi so I just went in and turned it off and back on to reboot it and everything started working again. So that got me thinking. Is there a way I can be notified if my HA stops responding?

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I have Terminal access through my dashboard, but I am not savvy with linux yet, so I am not sure how to get to the information I need.

humble mirage
#

Getting notified (still) requires you to run some other software to monitor HA

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That has to run on another computer

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What type of Pi?

upbeat tusk
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4

humble mirage
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It shouldn't be a power supply issue then

upbeat tusk
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I do have a media server that I run Plex on, so I might be able to do some sort of monitoring on that. But I don't knowhow to do the notification

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I don't think so. I am using the native power supply that came with it

humble mirage
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You'd need a tool like (say) Xymon, and that's out of scope for here

upbeat tusk
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hmm, ok... Is Xymon a windows program, or an addon to put on the pi?

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Also, can you tell me how to get to HA's log files (either instructions or a website with them)? So I can see if maybe there is some information there.

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Like I said, I'm not that great with linux yet, so getting around the system is challenging.

humble mirage
humble mirage
abstract hearthBOT
#

If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

  • Check the troubleshooting steps
  • Check your log file - remembering you may need to set logger to info or debug
  • Explain what the problem you're having is - sharing configuration, errors, and logs
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upbeat tusk
humble mirage
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Add-on wouldn't help since if the HA host is down, the add-on is down

restive lava
#

Hi guys,
I have a short question, I am trying to reset my Energy tab. I have read that I have to remove some enties in the DB. So I wanted to install 'sqllite-web' but I can't find it in my add on store on HA OS. Can anyone help me 🙂

humble mirage
open fiber
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is there a way to install home assistant on a Raspberry pi with supported supervisor?

low notch
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why do you need the supervisor?

open fiber
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for the addons

low notch
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then use HAOS

open fiber
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does it have the supervisor already included

low notch
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yes

open fiber
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ohhh i remember i didn´t go that way because i already had stuff installen on my pi

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thanks^^

low notch
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installing additional stuff to a supervised setup renders it unsupported, even when using debian

open fiber
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yeah i know that now

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i had pihole on my pi running and added HA as a docker container

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now i don´t need pihole anymore and i could go with the HAOS

low notch
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afaik you can run adguard as addon in haos

open fiber
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i have backups from my current system. can i just format my pi and install HAOS and then upload this backup?

low notch
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yes

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this is the way

open fiber
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i have a pfsense now and have pfblocker installed

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thanks

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i hope this want take me the next hours then^^. but how i know linux this could take a couple hours of frustrating searching on the internet^^

humble mirage
#

Well, this is an "appliance like" experience, it either works, or it doesn't

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If it doesn't then the odds are you've got networking/hardware issues

open fiber
humble mirage
#

If you have a Pi4

open fiber
#

yeah

#

pi4B

open fiber
#

Is it possible to install HAOS directly to an external SSD or do I need to install on a SD first

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And doi need to format the SSD before the setup?

humble mirage
#
  1. Yes
  2. No
cedar phoenix
open fiber
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I didn't notice that the flashing didn't make an installation drive but the boot drive itself

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I am currently waiting on the backup to go live

patent compass
#

can someone help me to setup ssl home assistent instance running in vm on my server where my other services have ssl created threought virtualmin and webmin. not quiet sure how to do it inside of vm

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if there is someone willing to I am in hangout room and sharing screen 🙂

open fiber
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@low notch thanks for the tipp with haos . it works like acharm and was realy easy to setup^^

pastel elm
#

Hello, I have the problem that after a reinstallation (ova/proxmox) the backup data did not restore my addon. How can I restore addon from the backup.tar maybe manually? Or is there another way?

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My backups were via backup on the Synology NAS or with the Google Drive backup. I copied the nas-storage backup.tar to the backup folder.
Other way was via the addon Google Drive Backup.
Is there a folder where I can see the addon`

patent compass
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Hi i have some problems iwth Nginx proxy manager, everything seems to be set up OK but can t connect with https only via http

I am in voice room hangout if u would be so great and help me, thx 🙂

humble mirage
#

Check HA's log for warnings or errors

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Odds are you forgot some settings for the http integration

patent compass
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like, it s showing that i can access it bcs it s http not https 😄

humble mirage
#

I'm sure that's not what the log says

patent compass
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just look I stream it now i ave log on display

abstract hearthBOT
#

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patent compass
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If I understand it correctly on port 8123 should be https instead of http when i setted up Nginx

humble mirage
#

Well, no

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That doesn't change at all

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NGINX will handle SSL, so it's whatever port you've configured NGINX to use that'll be HTTPS - presumably 443

patent compass
#

443 ---->
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access this resource.

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and no logs in HA

humble mirage
#

Right, so that's NGINX, check the log for NGINX

patent compass
#

Nginx Proxy Manager shows no error logs

humble mirage
#

Try the access log

vital ibex
#

I'm new to HA and am hoping to install HA on a new micro PC that I just bought. I'm a Linux and HA novice and "beginner/intermediate" with the command line in general and with Windows. I'd planned to install Ubuntu (or Xubuntu) on the PC to facilitate HA. However, the PC I just bought on eBay is coming with Windows Pro, unexpectedly. Now I'm wondering if that interface (which I'm not that expert with, granted - I'm a Mac user generally) will be easier, or if the need to learn and use WSL means that I may as well just wipe Windows completely and use Ubuntu / Xubuntu, as I'd been planning to? Does that make sense?

humble mirage
#

Depends on how you want to run HA, but either:

  1. Wipe it, flash Home Assistant OS
  2. Wipe it, flash Debian and install Home Assistant Container
vital ibex
#

If those are my best options, I think I'll be doing #2, as #1 would be only for if I wanted to use the computer for HA only, correct? HA is going to be probably 90% of what it's used for, but I'm hoping to branch out and eventually run Pi Hole and other such tinkering projects on it (using it as a sort of home server) ...

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P.S. thanks for the reply, I appreciate the quick response and advice.

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To simplify my question: is it true that in your answer you are saying that no, it's not worth it to leave Windows on the PC, if its primary purpose will be as a HA / home server?

humble mirage
#

Windows desktop for a home server is a terrible choice

high token
patent compass
#

I have one question, it s quiet peculiar i think

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in my flat i have static ip, server runninr HA for my flat and so on ....

Then I have cottage in woods where Iwould like to add some smart sensors and add raspberry with HA there but to integrate with instance which I have home because I am not planning to pay for static IP there and would like to have everything on my main instance. Is something like that possible. Basically bridge that would be open for communication and user would always communicate with mein server which have static IP.

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not sure if it's my explanation and reasoning clear

low notch
#

whats the distance?

patent compass
low notch
#

ok so a internet line is possible, just not static ip?

patent compass
low notch
#

then just set up a vpn, you only need a server and a client

crude inlet
#

or make use of the custom integration "remote home assistant"?

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basically a client HA which shares all entities with a main HA instance

patent compass
#

but addon is not in add-on store

crude inlet
#

not an add-on, a custom integration

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it's available in the HACs store

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or you can manually add it without HACs

patent compass
#

Ok I will try to find some guide and read something about it, thanks for head start

crude inlet
vital ibex
ionic lodge
#

Brand new to Home Assistant - chose the flash a MicroSD for a Raspberry Pi / Home Assistant OS option. Although the network cables / connections are lit, it boots and throws a network / time sync error during start up. I end up at the HA prompt and am down in the CLI, working to add IP address info (as opposed to it grabbing DHCP from switch). I have seen others have this issue but the resolutions don't seem to really resolve the issue (they say to reflash the image).

viscid sigil
#

Di you get the correct image for your pi (there are different images for the different versions)?

ionic lodge
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hrm... Well, I thought I had. Now I am not sure about the 64 verse 32... - reimaging now, we shall see!

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Nope, still throwing error during startup

stray gust
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Hello I’m new here. Can I install home assistance on docker on Macos and map the port to 8123. Is it gonna work?

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Or should I create a vm with ubuntu than install os-agent and supervisor only.

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Having trouble with ip and port fwing here 😭

humble mirage
#

VM with Ubuntu and Supervised is also unsupported, and will be broken from the start

humble mirage
stray gust
#

I need Supervisor . So I go with VM+Docker on macbook m1. but still having problem with port mapping and many related things. Any Ideas? / I used vmcli vftools lima nerdctl already network still not NAT

humble mirage
#

Then VM + HAOS is the way to go

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When you say "port mapping" - where?

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The VM has to be using bridged networking

stray gust
humble mirage
stray gust
#

one more thing where can I find hass-os docker? or need to install it directly to vm?

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the main point for me is mbp m1 is arm64 so it not support any kind of vm except Visulize.framework

humble mirage
#

There is no "HassOS Docker", HAOS uses Docker, and everything you need is in that image

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UTM is what you need

stray gust
humble mirage
#

I just Googled Mac M1 run intel VM

stray gust
#

recap: I need vm file for KVM to build and run on UTM, right?

humble mirage
#

I believe so

stray gust
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I'm new to the Docker, VM technology sorry if I ask sth sound stupid lol

humble mirage
#

It's fine, asking questions is how we all learn

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Just keep in mind you're not going to be interacting with Docker directly - it's all managed for you

stray gust
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it'v been 2 weeks with docke vm ubuntu os-agent and shuffle for me - -

humble mirage
#

Supervised is the hardest install method, that comes with a stack of warnings people ignore and then regret ignoring

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There's a reason it's not listed in any official install guide any more

stray gust
#

oh the vm file is not include supervisor like hass-os on rpi?

humble mirage
#

Yes it does

stray gust
#

// I shouldn't sell my rpi4 because the price keep going up ☹️

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Life is harder without them

placid sage
#

Hi there, I´m a comlete "newbee". I installed HA on a vm in windows. Starting the machine works. I get the "Welcome to the Home Assistant command line". Now I´ve problems starting the webbrowser. The Ip of the VM is known but i can´t connect to the web interface to create an account...

humble mirage
#

You're using http://192.168.0.42:8123/ (or whatever the IP is)?

placid sage
#

i already tried that, but no sucsess

humble mirage
#

What about if you use port 4357 ?

placid sage
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with ipconfig i got the ip of the vm, but then nothing works

placid sage
#

The answere is: ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE

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does anyone has an idea, what to do?

worn wing
ionic lodge
crude inlet
#

@ionic lodge it's likely a networking issue. What did you do at the command line?

ionic lodge
noble coral
#

Hi, i run HASSOS and my disk is nearly full. I found that the size of /var/log/journal is about 4Gb. Is there a command like journalctl --vacuum-size=500 , or another way to clean up this directory?

crude inlet
placid sage
#

Hi, just a quick question on how to upgrade Grafana 7.4.1 to 8.4.x in Home Assistant OS (non Docker)

humble mirage
#

Presumably you installed it as an add-on?

placid sage
#

Correct

humble mirage
placid sage
#

Okay will look there

tough latch
#

if I wanted to install home assistant on a VM on a Linux machine without a connected graphics output, what hypervisor should I go for?

low notch
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kvm

tough latch
#

ok, I'll have to check how I'd get a terminal connection during the install then, I guess

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or network, for that matter

low notch
#

why?

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homeassistant os is meant to run headless anyway

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virt-manager gives you the ability to connect to remote kvm machines anyway

tough latch
#

sure, but there should be a network interface coming up and asking for an IP address via DHCP, and I don't see this happening

low notch
#

thats because you probably did not set up a bridged interface

tough latch
#

on the host I've got this set up

low notch
#

then it should work, pretty sure virsh gets you a terminal too

crude inlet
#

and your VM would be configured to use the bridge as its adapter

jaunty ice
#

I just updated HAOS to 2022.3.3, and was in the middle of creating an automation. Now, whenever I try to make a new automation, it tells me the following:
Message malformed: Integration '' not found

low notch
#

did you try clearing your browser cache / a different browser?

tough latch
#

virsh console homeassistant gets me a console, but nothing happening there

low notch
#

share your vm xml

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#

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jaunty ice
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tried firefox as opposed to chrome

low notch
#

yes, this was for you

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i have no more ideas

jaunty ice
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i'll see if restoring works

tough latch
low notch
#

something like <source bridge='br0'/> would be correct

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looks like you have a custom nat network defined with name bridged-network

tough latch
#

that's what I tried first, and now I set up a bridge network from <network> <name>bridged-network</name> <forward mode="bridge" /> <bridge name="br0" /> </network>

low notch
#

that is a custom NAT network

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it's not trivial to setup a bridged network with kvm, you might have overlooked some steps

tough latch
#

if I start with --network bridge=br0, I get an interface that's connected to the bridge, but I don't seem to see an IP address being defined

low notch
#

you want this

    <interface type='bridge'>
      <mac address='52:54:00:e3:d9:86'/>
      <source bridge='br0'/>
      <model type='e1000'/>
      <address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x03' function='0x0'/>
    </interface>
tough latch
# 
      <mac address='52:54:00:02:12:5b'/>
      <source bridge='br0'/>
      <model type='e1000'/>
      <address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x03' function='0x0'/>
    </interface>``` is what I have when I start `virt-install` with `--network bridge=br0`
low notch
#

ip a show br0 ?

tough latch
# 
    link/ether a2:e0:a3:26:b4:8a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.1.7/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global br0
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 2a05:f6c7:3469:0:a0e0:a3ff:fe26:b48a/64 scope global dynamic mngtmpaddr
       valid_lft 4294967191sec preferred_lft 4294967191sec
    inet6 fe80::a0e0:a3ff:fe26:b48a/64 scope link
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever```
low notch
#

192.168.1.0 is your net?

tough latch
#

yes, 192.168.1.7 is the host I've ssh-ed into

low notch
#

that looks ok, I'm out of ideas

tough latch
#

I also have 9: vnet3: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue master br0 state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 link/ether fe:54:00:02:12:5b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet6 fe80::fc54:ff:fe02:125b/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever for the VM

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which looks to be connected to br0 as well

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to me it looks like the VM image isn't booting correctly

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hence my wish to see what the heck is going on with that

low notch
#

how does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?

tough latch
low notch
#

there is something weird in there i guess

#

i have

iface br0 inet static
   bridge_ports eno1
tough latch
#

I guess I'll try to get virt-manager up on another machine and installing from there

low notch
#

virt-manager wont help you with networks, especially bridged networks i believe

tough latch
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yeah, but I still think the bridged network is fine, and the vm is simply not booting properly

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I can tcpdump -i vnet3 and see all my network's broadcast traffic just fine

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but I never see any DHCP requests sent from the VM

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but it's getting close to midnight, and that's not the best time to start debugging this kind of stuff

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thanks for the help, in any case

tough latch
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Duh. Turns out my problem likely was not creating the vm with a UEFI boot setup

open urchin
#

i'm trying to install the supervised version on an ARM64 architecture

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you decompress it but you don't obtain a .deb

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you get 3 files one of which is the license, the other is the readme and an "os-agent" unnamed file

#

the readme tells you to use dpkg -i blabla.deb or w/e is supplied as an extension

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but it refuses to install with either the tar.gz, tar or the unnamed package

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so i'm quite confused what's expecting

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hol up there's an aarch64

little niche
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Hello apologies if this is not the right channel. I have a Raspberry Pi running HA OS and I would like to use an external drive. My question is: is there a benefit on installing everything from scratch in the external drive, or moving the data disk by itself is just good enough (in terms of speed) the latter seems a much simpler process, is that correct?

ionic lodge
crude inlet
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You use the commands as shown in the docs

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Don't assume you can use anything else. Just use the nmcli commands

ionic lodge
crude inlet
#

You used nmcli to set the gateway and DNS server?

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And saved, exited, rebooted?

ionic lodge
#

and I did a hard restart

crude inlet
#

Ok. What DNS servers

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And when you enter nmcli by itself do you see a connection at the top in green?

ionic lodge
crude inlet
#

Presumably it was using that from the start and might have been a problem

#

All you did was take the same info and set it static instead of DHCP then?

#

That's probably not going to give you a different result

#

I would change the DNS to something else, like 1.1.1.1 or 9.9.9.9

#

That's probably where the issue is

ionic lodge
crude inlet
#

Not if it is using the Supervisor profile

#

Is that the profile you've been editing?

ionic lodge
crude inlet
#

It's green because that one is in use and working. Or should be

#

But have you been making changes to the profile named Home Assistant OS default

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You can have many network profiles.

ionic lodge
crude inlet
#

yeah. and that should normally be the default unless you made changes before

#

but you should now be changing the other one

ionic lodge
crude inlet
#

yeah

#

edit that one, and change the dns for it

#

you can leave everything else as is if it looks good

ionic lodge
#

ok, but what is a little weird is the Home Assistant profile isn't green. So it doesn't seem to be in use.

crude inlet
#

it's not weird

#

that's how it is

#

you start with HassOS default

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You probably made a change using the ha command

#

and that created the Supervisor profile

#

now you want to edit that one

#

You could create another profile called "monkey badger"

#

As long as its green and is the one in use, that's the one you should be working with

ionic lodge
#

let me reflash this and start from a known state

crude inlet
#

you could also run the reset instead of flashing

# 
# reboot
ionic lodge
#

Thank you so much!

crude inlet
#

Nice! Good job

nocturne talon
#

Hi guys, had to move from my ubuntu server to a supported hassos install. Trying to restore backup but the backup isn't recognized and when I try to upload it through the gui I get a 400.... How can I restore my setup??? Any recommendations?

winter silo
low notch
winter silo
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erf

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no possible to have this on docker ?

humble mirage
#

No

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If you want those, you need HAOS

winter silo
#

so go kvm ^^

humble mirage
#

Or install the other software yourself

#

Supervisor doesn't do anything you can't do

winter silo
#

i can add addon tab without it ?

humble mirage
#

Not an add-on, no

#

The software that the add-on wraps, yes

versed ridge
#

Hi there, I just installed HA on a virtual machine on my Mac but can't seem to connect to it. The IP address in the browser doesn't seem to load

rocky fiber
#

How did you get the IP address?

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I've just installed on KVM, and I can see that homeassistant.local is mapped to the wrong IP address - it's broadcasting the IP of the internal docker container, which can't be reached from the host machine

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ah - it's rebooted and fixed itself 🙂 always the way

versed ridge
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@rocky fiber I checked my router's settings and it showed me the IP address of my x.x.x.115 so that's what I typed into the address bar of my browser + the :8123 at the end but the site isn't responding

crisp bough
#

People running HA on a VM (especially VirtualBox), do you have a way to make sure HA restarts in case the host computer reboots unexpectedly or the VM client crashes? I disabled automatic Windows updates/sleeps but I still woke up today to find an empty desktop and no programs running on my HA computer

crude inlet
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"just virtual box things"

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You can look into running it as a service but I think that comes with its own problems

abstract hearthBOT
#

@sharp edge Rule #6: Please do not post codewalls (text longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://www.codepile.net/ (pick YAML for the language) or https://paste.debian.net/ (pick YAML for the language).

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

Command '~codewall' was invoked by: Tinkerer
humble mirage
rocky fiber
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or you could try opening the website on another device on the same network like a phone?

sage gulch
#

I'm just thinking of buying one of those little Dell "jam sandwich" Optiplex 9020 or 9030 micro form factor desktops (probably the i5) that max out at 16GB RAM. I'll probably also use the box to be my TFTP, DNS and DHCP server to I'm getting conflicting advice. Do you think I would be better having a base OS and installing Hass in Docker, installing it direct on the OS with the other things installed locally or putting VMWare ESXi on the machine and running Hassio OS in one VM and a vanilla Linux in another to provide the other things?

humble mirage
#

Depends on your skills and desires really

sage gulch
humble mirage
sage gulch
rocky fiber
#

@versed ridge you'll have to use nc instead of telnet

versed ridge
#

so what's the address that I need to type in?

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nc:x.x

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or nc.x.x?

rocky fiber
#

nc is a program

versed ridge
#

oh

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haha

sage gulch
# versed ridge oh

which nc returns /usr/bin/nc so it is installed out the box on Big Sur at least

rocky fiber
#

@versed ridge
nc <address> <port>
and see what happens

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or you could try curl if you have that - that will make HTTP requests like a browser would:
curl -Ssv http://<address>:<port>/

sage gulch
versed ridge
#

I've never heard of either of those. Where could I download them or where can I get instructions on what to do?

rocky fiber
#

open a terminal and type them in

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I think nc is installed by default on a mac

sage gulch
#

and do yourself a favour. Download and install iTerm2. It's a lot better than regular terminal

rocky fiber
#

@versed ridge basically you are seeing what happens when you try and connect to the address and port - is it rejected outright, does it time out, etc etc

humble mirage
#

If those are integrations, then that's wrong, they all work. If those are custom cards, same goes

rocky fiber
#

@sage gulch add-ons can't be used

humble mirage
#

Those are just software in Docker though, so ... no big deal

sage gulch
#

So what kinds of things can't I do if I install it that way?

humble mirage
#

Add-ons

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That's it

sage gulch
#

Listening to you, I'm hearing that you don't think it's a great loss?

humble mirage
#

There's nothing you can't do without them

abstract hearthBOT
#

An add-on is a Docker container with tweaks to allow it to be configured in the Supervisor UI. It is only available in the Supervised installs (#330990055533576204 and #330944238910963714) since if you've used any other install method you're able to install software already.

Command '~addon' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sage gulch
#

Thank you

rocky fiber
#

so I assume you just have to roll your own docker container then? or Install whatever software you want on the host and get ha to find it somehow

sage gulch
humble mirage
#

Yup, thousands of them

#

Just add a few lines to your Docker compose file and away you go

#

For the "finding" them, just configure the integration

versed ridge
#

@rocky fiber nothing happens

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I type in "nc x.x.x.115 8123"

#

but it doesn't time out, nor gives me any other error message

rocky fiber
#

Ah you need to replace the x’s with the rest of your subnet

versed ridge
#

I did

rocky fiber
#

Oh ok

versed ridge
#

I just type it this way in Discord cause it's easier

sage gulch
#

does ping x.x.x.115 give you any result?

versed ridge
#

Okay nvm, I just checked my router and apparently it's not even connected just yet

rocky fiber
#

@versed ridge that probably means it connected?

versed ridge
#

I'll give it a couple more minutes as I just started the vm

rocky fiber
#

Ahh good idea

#

Do you have curl installed? That probably more useful

versed ridge
#

I dont

#

I usually don't use the terminal so I'm still new to all of this

sage gulch
#

On a Mac? Curl should be in the default install. type which curl

versed ridge
#

usr/bin/curl

sage gulch
#

The which command is asking the terminal, "If I type that command here, what is the name of the thing you will run?"

echo brook
sage gulch
# versed ridge usr/bin/curl

If it returns a filename like that then there is a program of that name installed. If it says nothing and returns the command prompt it isn't installed

sage gulch
rocky fiber
crude inlet
#

It's on the configuration page @echo brook

echo brook
rocky fiber
#

@versed ridge try this:
curl -Ssv http://<address>:<port>/

sage gulch
versed ridge
#

I'll try once it shows up on my router's page

echo brook
sage gulch
crude inlet
echo brook
violet ferry
#

THis happened after I upgraded Supervisor...

shut aurora
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I got this error message when trying to update to 3.3 today :

22-03-09 22:32:48 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.utils.codenotary] Timeout while processing CodeNotary

I just updated the supervisor, too. Is it a known error?

humble mirage
#

Yes

royal sentinel
#

hmmm I also have this

#

updated the supervisor and now cannot update HA from 2022.2 to 2022.3

humble mirage
old sorrel
#

I'm running HA OS on a blue device. Today, trying to update from 2022.3.0 to .3.3. I'm geting this error HomeAssistantCore.update' blocked from execution, system is not healthy
I see no additional information in the log (/setting/logs). Where can I look for more details?

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Sorry - have this in the Supervisor panel "Detected untrusted content"

# 
22-03-09 16:00:50 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.utils.codenotary] Timeout while processing CodeNotary
22-03-09 16:00:20 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.check] Error during processing IssueType.TRUST: 
22-03-09 15:59:53 CRITICAL (MainThread) [supervisor.updater] Content-Trust is broken for the version file fetch!
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Supervisor version: supervisor-2022.03.2

royal sentinel
#

Is there a SSH command to revert the supervisor to the previous version?

sage gulch
#

Sounds like a certificate with a broken trust chain. Have you applied all the HA and OS updates in case any of them has a new certificate file in it?

old sorrel
#

I see no other updated available. HA OS is 7.4; supervisor is 2022.03.2

royal sentinel
#

Lol on a second installation, identical to mine, same issues and that one does not want to load the supervisor panel

#

:8123/hassio

old sorrel
#

Funny - this is my extra install too

#

I do see the supervisor panel

viscid girder
#

I just updated Home Assistant Supervisor via the Configuration menu, and now when I try and update the Core I get this message:

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"You are running an unsupported installation"

#

and then shows the issue as "Source Modifications"
however it doesn't say what kind of source modifications, and I'm running a normal build so this shouldn't be the case

royal sentinel
#

Can I run this in SSH: ha supervisor update --version=2022.01.1

viscid girder
#

the Home Assistant Observer lists the health as 'Healthy' but 'Supported: Unsupported'

old sorrel
pastel epoch
#

I'm seeing the same thing. Seems like it might be related to another error in the logs: transport: Error while dialing dial tcp 35.168.17.115:443: i/o timeout

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And that's while trying to do: Fetching update data from https://version.home-assistant.io/stable.json

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Fetching that URL in a browser works fine for me though. 🤷‍♂️

viscid girder
#

@pastel epoch are you seeing the "Unsupported installation" messages as well or are you refering to another issue?

swift pine
#

Got the "unhealthy" issue too, just did a quick reboot and seems upgrade to 2022.3.3 is going through.. we'll see how it goes.

swift pine
abstract hearthBOT
pastel epoch
#

Well, intermittently.

viscid girder
#

just looking through i'm seeing the same i/o timout messages in the logs so maybe the "unsupported installation" message is a red herring / unintentional side effect

#

...or I have two separate issues :S

pastel epoch
#

I tried to upgrade my supervisor, which caused that to show up, but now that I've rebooted I just see the "untrusted content" one.

#

Yeah I would guess it's the byproduct of getting the core upgrade partially started or something?

somber magnet
#

I dotn se any health issues but have the same problem with updating as @pastel epoch

#

Will just try again tomorrow, seems like it has a problem getting the docker image like in the issue you linked

icy stag
#

Hello, new user having an issue updating home assistant core. I keep getting an unknown error

fiery night
icy stag
#

Thanks, I was just looking at that now

vivid nacelle
#

Would the error/issue above prevent me from completing an install on an Intel Nuc?

#

It seems to be - getting CodeNotary errors and general failures.

icy stag
#

Seems so, yes

vivid nacelle
#

Not a good day to start over or is it the best day to start over?

icy stag
#

I've heard it both ways

jovial rampart
#

❤️Docker❤️

icy stag
#

I pushed the easy button and bought an ODROID

jovial rampart
#

Docker runs on an ODroid

#

i think 🤣

#

I have an ODroid myself doing other things

vivid nacelle
#

I really need to get on with moving to ubuntu and using dockers

jovial rampart
#

Or Debian

vivid nacelle
#

Not sure what is stopping me other than simply not knowing it enough

jovial rampart
#

DO IT

#

It’s easy

vivid nacelle
#

I like the "all-in-one" type of scenario, though.

#

I am a lazy procrastinator.

jovial rampart
#

99% of the time I use about 3 docker-compose commands

vivid nacelle
#

Maybe you can explain to me - if I go with Ubuntu, you lose out on the "Add-On" section, right?

jovial rampart
#

Yes

vivid nacelle
#

How do you get that stuff added on? Like, MQTT is through there... that's what confuses me

#

I know it has to work, but most of the internet's instructions are "click add-ons"

jovial rampart
#

Add-ons are just docker containers

#

You can spin up a container or run as a service

vivid nacelle
#

Sorry for my lack of (probably) improper terminology, but you simply add an MQTT/Mosquito docker and "attach" it to HA somehow?

#

this is another level of "break stuff"

jovial rampart
#

No, container run independent. That’s why they are so nice. I am by no means a docker expert but….I believe all the dependencies run inside the container

#

You set up the docker and then use the mqtt integration to talk to it

vivid nacelle
#

This is all so intimidating to me. Seriously. I am sure I can do it, but in reality, I'm lazy.

jovial rampart
#

Same as add-ons. You add the mqtt add-on and then the mqtt integration right

vivid nacelle
#

But the MQTT is outside of HA, right?

#

the actual "broker" or Mosquitto

jovial rampart
#

Yes, and so is the add-on…you just don’t realize it

#

I am not trying to change you…..trust me…..if you are happy with hassos stick with it

vivid nacelle
#

I love to tinker with it and break stuff, but it confuses me. I'm sure if I just did it then it would make sense. I don't mind your "push" to move to something better.

#

I also like the idea of running Ubuntu so that I can also run other stuff and not dedicate this Nuc to just HA

jovial rampart
#

Well….if you like to tinker….it’s right up your alley. It isn’t better either….just different. Gives you options on the host machine instead of locking down the os

#

I personally would run Debian though

vivid nacelle
#

So, I am super familiar with Linux Mint and I think that Ubuntu and Mint are somewhat the same

#

Going to do a quick search on Debian

jovial rampart
#

Debian is not that far off…

#

Besides, you run without a desktop

#

So it’s all linux under the hood really

#

You have a pi laying around you could play with

#

Keep your hassos running while you get comfortable

vivid nacelle
#

It actually says that Debian makes up Mint... Go figure.

#

Well, I currently don't have any HA running. The pi quit working after I unplugged it. It's stupid.

jovial rampart
#

I run esxi on a NUC with two different virtual machines.

#

I was a complete noob when I started

#

Really just running one docker each on each VM

vivid nacelle
#

I know enough to get aggravated.

jovial rampart
#

Prob a waste of resource but it works

#

I used to run core…..then one year I couldn’t get Python upgraded…..got frustrated and someone told me to switch to docker. Docker is really cool. I spin up containers all the time…play with it to see if I like it….if not…delete the image and it’s like it was never there

#

Minus persistent volumes

#

Which are easy enough to delete

vivid nacelle
#

Attempting to figure this out

jovial rampart
#

Here is the down and dirty

  1. install docker
  2. install docker-compose
  3. figure out how you want to structure things logistically. Folders and storage and stuff
  4. create a docker-compose file and cd into the folder where your docker-compose is
  5. sudo docker-compose pull home-assistant
  6. sudo docker-compose up -d home-assistant
  7. sudo docker image prune
vivid nacelle
#

That right there are the ClifsNotes that I was looking for.

#

Currently downloading stuff. But there seems to be internet issues. I'm getting DNS failures like crazy.

jovial rampart
#

A couple other good commands

  1. sudo docker ps -a
  2. sudo docker images
vivid nacelle
#

I should clarify, I don't think these DNS issues are me

jovial rampart
#

I never added my user to the docker group so need to use sudo 😉

grand pivot
#

It's not too late!

clever sable
clever sable
#

wait is supervisor getting auto updates now?

thorny ginkgo
#

okay so I reinstalled Debian 11... so again the question is - supervised or Container? Can I use custom components with Container? Does it matter if I can't use addons?

#

most those addons just seem like things you can install on linux...

crude inlet
#

You can install custom integrations on any install of HA

thorny ginkgo
#

well, in that case it definitely is better to go with, as Tnkerer says it, officially supported installation

#

container it is

fiery night
grand pivot
#

It has always auto updated

ember surge
#

Is there an example docker compose file not using host mode networking? I need the container to be in the same bridge network as my Traefik proxy so I can expose it properly.

worn shell
#

So for the first time in 3 years HA crashed after updating core. and i did a backup then never came back on. had to run a new install and now im getting this

humble mirage
worn shell
#

welp i cant send screenshot

#

22-03-10 02:31:14 INFO (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/generic-x86-64-homeassistant with tag 2022.3.3.
22-03-10 02:31:35 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec

#

anyone know what im doing wrong?

ember surge
humble mirage
#

Yes

ember surge
#

Hmm ok I'll have to figure out a way to get Traefik to forward to the host somehow then

humble mirage
#

You can skip it, but anything that uses mDNS/SSDP/etc will fail

silver valley
#

why are you trying to proxy with traffik

low notch
#

you can use custom manual frontend/backend for traefik to proxy ha

fathom cobalt
#

Saw "YOUR INSTALLATION IS UNHEALTHY" - I rebooted the machine. Do I have a virus? What should I do?

humble mirage
#

No, you don't

#

First off, what install method are you using - HAOS or Supervised?

#

Secondly, there's a part there you can click that tells you the problem

fathom cobalt
#

HAOS in Virtual Box. I did click the link and all it said was vague.

abstract hearthBOT
#

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

Command '~share' was invoked by: Tinkerer
humble mirage
#

Well, I'm sure if you share what it said somebody could help

fathom cobalt
#

System detected untrusted content

#

Home Assistant detected untrusted code. It looks like someone/something injected not signed images or code into your Home Assistant system.

viscid girder
#

Some people have flushed the DNS cache to fix it, but that's not working for everyone (including me)

fathom cobalt
#

I think I'm going to restore from a backup.

#

I got this message next.

#

Supervisor source modifications

fathom cobalt
violet ferry
#

Hi. I just took the plunge from supervised on Debian to haos (or whatever it's called) on Proxmox. After getting a new HA up and running, I (tried to) restore a backup from the supervised installation. Now I cant reach ip:8123, but the observers says "Connected", "supported" and "Healthy". I can see that HA is running in the proxmox console, and I can run commands like supervisor logs and core logs. Is'n it possible to restore a Supervised HA to a HAOS HA? Any tips is much appreciated.

humble mirage
#

Restore should be fine, but it's possible you've been caught by the bug above

fathom cobalt
viscid girder
#

@fathom cobalt yes that's the same progression I got - first 'untrusted code' then 'source modifications' and then you can't update Core because it's too paranoid

#

A 'continue anyway y/n' option would have been nice

violet ferry
shut rivet
#

That issue is in progress

fossil sequoia
#

I am trying to install Hass OS as a Proxmox VM, and it loops failing to verify a docker image, any idea what could cause this ? https://i.imgur.com/4tpwuzz.png

white urchin
#

I went to update NodeRed today and it said it couldnt as system was unsafe. I looked on the system page and under 'Supervisor' it reports "You are running an unsupported installation". The link it takes you too talks about unsupported supervisor changes but I havent knowingly done any. Is there an easy (non-destructive) way to bring the supervisor code back to supported (supervisor-2022.03.2)? I am running the official VM under virtualbox for over a year without concerns.

shut rivet
shut rivet
white urchin
plain crescent
#

This is super annoying. 😦 , Spend better part of a day to figure out its not me. 😦 , now just wait?

timber parrot
#

Yes, nagging won't speed things up 🙂

dreamy merlin
plain crescent
#

Neighter is being nice. 🙂 and ass creeping.

humble mirage
opal forge
#

my log is going nuts with a bunch of different errors (not the unhealthy system thing), is that unrelated or part of this?

humble mirage
#

Depends on those errors, but pins

drowsy briar
#

There's many messages in my logs but it is usually caused by me trying to recharge the influx-booster stabilisers whilst the gyroscopic manipulators are still pre-charged.....sigh

opal forge
#

yes i checked the pin. just all kind of stuff in the log. like this "Client unable to keep up with pending messages. Stayed over 512 for 5 seconds"

#

template variable error. erroneous json. just quite a lot of stuff all at once so i'm not sure whether to try and troubleshoot or hold tight till that bug gets fixed

odd tree
#

I have installed Home assistant on proxmox using the qcow2 file on the homepage. Its boot up correctly and no errors. But my issue. I have transfered a backup-file from my old installation into the Backups-folder on the newly installed system using samboi-addon. But I cant see it in the GUI. I tried upload through the GUI first, but everytime I got Bad request 400.

Anyone know how I fix so the system see my backup tar-file?

#

Isn't there a way to get into the filesystem and type ls and so in HaOS ?

#

I installed the terminal addon, and now I see the files in backup. Both have same permissions and owners. But the one from my other system isn't showing up so I can restore 😦

rigid peak
#

Help!!! Updating HA Image Failed: Having an issue when try to install update

22-03-10 06:40:28 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.api] Updated Home Assistant API token
22-03-10 06:41:29 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Updating Home Assistant to version 2022.3.3
22-03-10 06:41:29 INFO (SyncWorker_6) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.3.1 to ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.3.3
22-03-10 06:41:29 INFO (SyncWorker_6) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant with tag 2022.3.3.

------>>>>> 22-03-10 06:42:05 ERROR (SyncWorker_6) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.3.3: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.3.3/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.3.3: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.3.3")
22-03-10 06:42:05 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Updating Home Assistant image failed <<<<<-------

icy stag
#

Hmm, I just got a supervisor update to 2022.3.3 and core successfully updated

rigid peak
#

I did a fresh DebianOS HomeAssistant install. Then restore from backup to 2022.3.1. But when trying to update to 2022.3.3 I am getting the error. The backup completes, but the update fails.

#

Instance running with Duckdns http ssl key and certificate enabled

odd tree
#

Check the supervisor logs

unique swallow
#

Maybe something like this: 22-03-10 14:09:45 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.utils.codenotary] Timeout while processing CodeNotary

#

Dns flush has been done

rigid peak
#

First time I've seen the Supervisor info is telling me this:

You are running an unsupported installation
Below is a list of issues found with your installation, click on the links to learn how you can resolve the issues.

systemd_resolved
Source modifications

odd tree
#

I got the same, that why I just moved my installation to HaOS. Seems to work fine so far 🙂

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Regards my backup-file issue, the file was corrupt in some way. I uploaded a older file and that worked.

humble mirage
rigid peak
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Does this make any sense:

Supervisor
Version
supervisor-2022.03.2
Newest Version
supervisor-2022.01.1
Channel
stable

humble mirage
rigid peak
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Ahhh okay. Deactivating Panic mode. LOL. Thanks @humble mirage .

worn shell
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Has anyone had trouble accessing their HA instance after restoring to a backup? I know the latest version of supervisor is breaking HA but are you guys still able to access it? Whenever I put it in the IP I'm getting the message site can't be reached

crystal hare
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FYI my supervisor seems to a) updated itself now to 03.3, and b) all green and free of issues now. Does seem to line up with what the issue tracker updates have been saying.