installation-archived

[humble mirage]

Well... typical networks don't limit outbound access

And many have broken DNS

[feral delta]

So "no, the assumption is DHCP offers broken DNS"?

[humble mirage]

Yes

[feral delta]

Interesting

[humble mirage]

Back when HAOS trusted DHCP provided DNS a lot of people couldn't get it installed because of DNS problems

Other things seem to have interal fallbacks and so didn't show that problem

Hence those "funky" choices

[feral delta]

And a fallback was not viable for HAOS?

[humble mirage]

No idea, few of us see the thoughts of the devs

[feral delta]

A shame. It certainly does have the look of a non-quoted funky compromise to hardcode DNS, ignore DHCP, and not make use of the fallback you mention other devices use.

[raven forge]

A lot of these DNS issues have since been "fixed" but see here and its links:

• https://github.com/home-assistant/plugin-dns/issues/22
• https://github.com/home-assistant/plugin-dns/issues/70
• https://github.com/home-assistant/supervisor/issues/4016
• https://github.com/home-assistant/plugin-dns/issues/90
• https://github.com/home-assistant/plugin-dns/issues/20
• https://community.home-assistant.io/t/improve-privacy-stop-using-hardcoded-dns/273496

[feral delta]

Oof. Quite the tone in some of those. But fingers crossed things continue moving 🙂

Thanks a lot for helping me out here - I am gearing up to replace a six year old HA docker install with HAOS - to get in on some of those "the way it's supposed to be run" benefits.

Granting the firewall exception for the supervisor DNS unblocked the install right away.

[raven forge]

I still use the docker installation method myself. I don't use a lot of fancy HA features though where HAOS would make my life eaiser.

[slow linden]

Override it to what pls? 🙏

[raven forge]

Something like 1.1.1.1 would be worth a try.

[slow linden]

Tried that, it's still the same...

[upper kindle]

Hi there, could you help me you with setting up a new yellow? have tried for hours now. all I am getting is a never ending blinking green led that lights up shortly every second. this is after the yellow led turned off to indicate boot of installation is complete.. I tried with and without ssd, with a cm4 with and without emmc. any ideas? could it be a hardware fault? i could not find anything in the docs. Would you help me out?

[raven forge]

I'd recommend asking in #yellow-archived due to the hardware specific things like the LED. Are you able to connect via serial to see what it's doing?

[upper kindle]

will try that. all i know now is, it has an ip and the hostname is yellow-installer. so thats at least booting.

[silent copper]

hey there anyone that might want to help me with installing home assistant on my raspberry pi?

[grand pivot]

Have you tried the installation instructions?

[humble scaffold]

Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
4. What's the exact error message?
5. When did it arise?
6. What exactly don't you "get"?
7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?

[icy creek]

Anyone know what this error might be related to. Im on RPI4 and this started happening with 13.0 HAOS. THought it was a faulty SD but issue continues after switching to SSD via USB

...

[rapid otter]

I have some trouble installing Home Assistant on my Rasberry pi 5. I tried to install home assistant on pi os because i wanted to connected a screen for showing my interface of home assistant on the rasberry. But i cant install it on pi os. Do you have some advices?

[raven forge]

Yeah, use the docker installation method.

[hearty sphinx]

im trying creating history stats helper but i take this error:

Error
Config flow could not be loaded: Failed dependencies recorder

How can i fix this

[dreamy berry]

Anyone know if theres any big issues with HACORE 8.x coming from 7.x? I normally dont miss upgrade version more then a few decimals. But im trying to go from 2024.7.4 to 2024.8.2 and its stays on installing for like 10 minutes. EVery other update ive done of HAOS or CORE or otherwise took no more then a few minutes. I noticed after like 10 minutes the memory of the OS instance went from like 5GB steadily to almost 6GB(memory aloted). This is an N100 box so plenty of power for these functions\HA\upgrades. Luckily i took a snapshot\backup via proxmox. But wondering if theres something im missing going from these two versions before i attempt it again.

[gray cairn]

i was on step 6 of the setting up process, but when i build the project it just says Unable to find Gradle tasks to build. Build Mode: Assemble. Could anyone please help me with this, it's my first time doing app dev so i don't know nothing.

[sudden frigate]

I'm helping someone upgrade a 2021 Home Assistant Supervised install. I have reinstalled supervised.deb but nothing is coming up on port 8123 - which logs should I check?

Aug 18 17:23:14 homeassistant hassio_supervisor[49794]: 2024-08-18 17:23:14.775 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.core] System running in a unsupported environment!
Aug 18 17:23:14 homeassistant hassio_supervisor[49794]: 2024-08-18 17:23:14.775 CRITICAL (MainThread) [supervisor.core] System is running in an unhealthy state and needs manual intervention!

cgroups, cgroups is the answer

[raven forge]

What's the OS version? What does lsb_release -a say?

[stuck marten]

Just connected kb and mouse and my screen (I only have 1 display now). I see this.

-> how can I post a screenshot or photo..!?

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/1celsluctxfdvozhwhd95/Schermafbeelding-2024-08-18-174120.png?rlkey=fg5bgpfoqnyijmrdnini07xlx&dl=0

[humble scaffold]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

[raven forge]

Is your network cable plugged in?

Also your ip is different than what you shared.

[cosmic coyote]

Hello i am having an issue with haos install. I documented it here. The docker download from ghcr.io is failing. Not sure if it is dns or what. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/home-assistant-os-install-not-working/757503/5

[stuck marten]

can you see the picture I have shared via the dropbox link? 🙂

I have now again internal IP not reachable, 192.168.1.246:8123, and I see this now when I connect a screen: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6ptqgxwuawt3liw4qip9a/20240818_201558.jpg?rlkey=atv1qokzybscjki80d1fgq5b5&dl=0

https://imgur.com/a/pZb5B3s

As you see; browser is showing not reachable: https://imgur.com/a/P0AensO

CMD -> ping 192.168.1.246 -> not reachable.

If I disconnect power to my rpi5, for 1 minute, then power ON, then everything works fine, for, about 1 hours or so. Then suddenly, not reachable anymore 😦

[stuck marten]

I am on wifi, but even if I do all this with utp connected, same story

fixed IP bound to mac in my routers/mesh points: 192.168.1.246

[lament lynx]

hey team, does anyone know the minimal storage requirements for HA on raspian or debian?

[proven grove]

32GB

[lament lynx]

i have some dell/wyse 5060s, with 8gb SSD https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/wyse/5060/

...perhaps i could use a nfs network share for extra storage

[proven grove]

You’re going to be right on space with just 8GB. You could attach an external SSD and use that though.

[lament lynx]

yep, ok ^

[analog marsh]

every time i try and configure my Google Nest Device it asks me to open website and when i do i keep getting something went wrong and Please contact the developer of this app if the issue persists. I cant even set up anything, not sure what i am doing wrong, do i need to clear something and try again?

[stable thicket]

Hi all, I'm trying to install HAOS on my late 2012 Mac Mini and I've flashed an external HDD with Ubuntu. I'm not able to get the Mac to boot to it though - startup manager doesn't see the external disk

[stable thicket]

Disk utility also just shows two greyed out drives, though I assume that's because MacOS doesn't know how to recognize an Ubuntu boot ... thingy

[lavish junco]

hello i've installed haos on truenas scale on a vm following this guide "https://community.home-assistant.io/t/installing-haos-in-a-vm-on-truenas-scale/511393" the vm starts and ha boots but it's looping on the step
[supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2024.8.2
[supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant with tag 2024.8.2.
with the following error
[supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2024.8.2: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.45/images/create?tag=2024.8.2&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fqemux86-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Famd64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
can anyone help me please ?

and i'm on haos 13.0

[lavish junco]

hi try to flash it to a usb stick and then try to boot on the usb stick and select your external hdd for the installation storage. Sorry I can't help more I never tried booting on anything else then MacOS on a mac

[gloomy orbit]

Bit of a wonky installation method, but, does the NAS have internet access?

[lavish junco]

yes it does i'm shure about that

because i'm able to do some updates on the nas for the other apps

[gloomy orbit]

I think you're bound to have issues running HA that way. But somewhere in step 4 in that guide is probably where you are going wrong.

[lavish junco]

okay i'll look into that but do i have to be using a bridge to connect my vm to the network or can i directly connect it to my network interface ?

and is there another way to run home assistant supervised or haos on truenas scale ?

[humble mirage]

Don't run Supervised

Just don't

The network needs to be a bridge

Anything else will cause problems

[lavish junco]

but then if i run core then how can i use hacs ?

[humble mirage]

HACS is an integration

Not an add-on

That means it works with all install methods

(though, Container > Core)

[lavish junco]

yes but hacs was just an exemple i would also like to have add ons ...

[humble scaffold]

@lavish junco When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[humble mirage]

Then you need HAOS if you want add-ons, though add-ons aren't magic

They're just software

Software you can pretty much always run another way

[lavish junco]

i see

[humble mirage]

@lavish junco

Please... turn off the ping

[lavish junco]

o yes sorry

[humble mirage]

Anyway, I'd suggest asking on that forum thread, where the TrueNAS experts can be found

[lavish junco]

which forum ?

[humble scaffold]

@lavish junco When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[humble mirage]

☝️

You posted the link...

#installation-archived message

[lavish junco]

ok i'll go see if they can help

thanks for the infos

[cosmic coyote]

I am having the same issue installing on proxmox. This seems to mena common issues. I probably is something with dns. Maby? I haven't solved it. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/home-assistant-os-install-not-working/757503/13

[hearty sphinx]

I cant access my homeassistant interface after energy outage, my automations are works but I can't access my interface

It says loading data at screen

[native flicker]

Hello. I have Raspberry Pi 5. Can I install home assistant in system directly? Without installing other OS

[humble mirage]

Yes

[native flicker]

How?

[humble scaffold]

The topic of this channel is:

Discussion about how to install Home Assistant (https://www.home-assistant.io/installation), and issues with the install itself. Make sure to mention which type of installation you have. If you're not sure of your installation method, check under Info in the System Health Card (https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/info/)

[humble mirage]

See the docs link there?

[native flicker]

Yes

[humble mirage]

Scroll down to Linux

[native flicker]

Next?

[humble mirage]

The on the right scroll to Container

Docker FTW

||https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#docker-compose||

[native flicker]

No docker

I tried it

but here is no addons

Other variants?

[humble mirage]

HAOS is the only option for add-ons

Not that you need add-ons

[native flicker]

Umm

I have Yandex Station

[humble mirage]

Then you don't get add-ons, or you buy other hardware to run HA on

[dry fern]

I wanna install HA on 1 hdd and make another hdd available for backups, media etc on the same system, is this still not possible?

[native flicker]

Can I use Yandex Station without addons?

[humble mirage]

No idea what that is, gotta link?

[humble mirage]

Not with HAOS, no

[native flicker]

https://alice.yandex.ru/station

[hearty sphinx]

I cant access my homeassistant interface after energy outage, my automations are works but I can't access my interface

[humble mirage]

Connect a keyboard and monitor

[hearty sphinx]

I dont have

[native flicker]

Can I install HACS?

[humble mirage]

Yes

[native flicker]

Without addons?

[dry fern]

damn ok tnx 🙂

[hearty sphinx]

U say this to me?

[humble mirage]

What did I answer you about that already?

[native flicker]

I installed that

but I dont see HACS button

[humble mirage]

Then you didn't follow the docs fully

1. Download HACS
2. Restart HA
3. Install the HACS integration

[native flicker]

https://hacs.xyz/docs/setup/download

[humble mirage]

And that's just the download

Now move to step 2 - restart

[native flicker]

Restarted

[humble mirage]

Now move to step 3

https://hacs.xyz/docs/configuration/basic

[native flicker]

How to install integration

[humble mirage]

Did you look at the docs there?

They take you through it, pretty much step by step

[native flicker]

The message was sending to slow

Thanks You

[humble mirage]

The link I posted was linked from the page you posted 😉

[orchid spindle]

why is it taking forever for Home Assistant to create a user?

[humble mirage]

Are you running it on a toaster?

Did you put capitals or spaces in the username?

[orchid spindle]

yes I did

Capital letter

[humble mirage]

Don't

[orchid spindle]

okaaaaaaaaaay 💀

Lmao

it worked 😂

thanks ❤️

+rep

[humble mirage]

It's a known bug, but I don't know when it'll be fixed

[orchid spindle]

I personally don't mind my username to be small letter

but at least it should be mentioned in the site

[humble mirage]

Well, that or it should handle the bug better...

[orchid spindle]

true

[stuck marten]

can you see the picture I have shared via the dropbox link? 🙂
I have now again internal IP not reachable, 192.168.1.246:8123, and I see this now when I connect a screen: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6ptqgxwuawt3liw4qip9a/20240818_201558.jpg?rlkey=atv1qokzybscjki80d1fgq5b5&dl=0
https://imgur.com/a/pZb5B3s
As you see; browser is showing not reachable: https://imgur.com/a/P0AensO
CMD -> ping 192.168.1.246 -> not reachable.
If I disconnect power to my rpi5, for 1 minute, then power ON, then everything works fine, for, about 1 hours or so. Then suddenly, not reachable anymore 😦

-> Today I tested at my office, and there I can just open the portal. It is on port 8124, but there it works. Internally in my house, I cannot reach the portal after 1 hour or so. What could this be?😫

internal: http://192.168.1.246:8123/ -> site does not respond

[heavy rover]

Hello, i used the supervised installer script and i now have problems with the Network manager. no network interfaces are shown and it says network manager is unsuportet. can anyone help me with that? System is unsupported because Network Manager is missing, inactive or misconfigured. Use the link to learn more and how to fix this.

[tender wren]

Don't use Supervised. Either use HAOS (maybe in a VM) or the Container install method.

[heavy rover]

alr can i make a backup from the supervised and put it then in a HAOS Proxmox vm? or how does the backup work

[placid sage]

What's the best way to migrate from my RPi4/PC to a an Optiplex build? My HA is on my RPi4 but a lot of my self-hosted apps are on my PC and I'd like to consolidate everything onto the Optiplex, while future proofing for future apps. Should I just install HAOS, Linux/docker/Proxmox?

[humble mirage]

Yes you can

[humble mirage]

Personally, Proxmox

Then you can have a VM for HAOS, and another VM for everything else

[heavy rover]

do i have to make a bootable usb or is there a .iso file for haos that i can just upload to proxmox

[placid sage]

That's kinda what I figured would be best. Is there a specific tutorial I should follow? I'm not familiar with Proxmox

[gloomy orbit]

file is enough

[primal wadi]

Can someone upload me the home assistant Bluetooth proxy.bin for ESP32 cp2102?

[heavy rover]

where can i find the iso i can only find the files you have to make to a bootable usb stick

[humble mirage]

#bluetooth-archived

[gloomy orbit]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative

[humble mirage]

There is no ISO

No installer

[heavy rover]

yea i just realised ty

[heavy rover]

its just stuck at booting from hard disk when using the newest version...

[humble mirage]

Try HAOS 12.2

[heavy rover]

alr

[humble mirage]

#installation-archived message

[heavy rover]

still the same problem

[humble scaffold]

@heavy rover Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

[humble mirage]

Show us what you see

[heavy rover]

https://imgur.com/a/xc5X7I9

[humble scaffold]

@heavy rover When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[humble mirage]

I know nothing about HAOS, if you followed the docs then somebody else will need to help you

[heavy rover]

i got it working had to change the bios

[stuck marten]

@humble mirage any idea on my issue ?:)

[humble mirage]

If I did then I'd have responded

Though honestly... I'm not wasting time on dropbox links

[raven forge]

What is your PC's ip address? Please check ha core logsin the CLI.
Can you reach the observer?

[stuck marten]

PC ip: 192.168.1.164

after a power disconnect and reboot, I can reach the HA website/portal in my home network for about an hour. After that, no connection anymore. But from outside my network (from my work office) it is reachable!

-> what is the observer?

-> this is the log I see, I just re-powered again, so I could reach the portal; https://imgur.com/a/7dYQabg

[raven forge]

The observer is a "service". It's URL is in your picture.

That's hard to read.

[stuck marten]

ok, sorry, not that hero with code/HA etc 😛

I cant find it

this screenshot is "the CLI HA core logs" right?

[raven forge]

If you're referring to the observer look at the bottom of your pictures here: #installation-archived message

[stuck marten]

http://homeassistantdeye.local:4357

When in Chrome, that URL is not reachable

[raven forge]

Try the ip instead. mDNS doesn't always work.

[stuck marten]

http://192.168.1.246:4357/ ->> is reachable

Home Assistant observer
Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy

[raven forge]

Check these things again when core is not reachable and ping me.

[stuck marten]

ok! 🙂

[runic crag]

Hi im not able to install hacs for my MyHomeServer1, i cant find any addon in my settings for ssh

Please help

[raven forge]

https://hacs.xyz/docs/faq/addons/

If you wan't help with installing HACS we need more information than can't.

[runic crag]

I have home assistant installed i want to install hacs but for that i need to have openssh right? Where do i do that from?

[raven forge]

How did you install HA?

[runic crag]

How do i open terminal

[runic crag]

On my NAS

[stable thicket]

the only usb stick i have is 4gb and the etcher says thats too small

[raven forge]

Okay but how? There's different methods and my answer depends on it. See table here: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/#advanced-installation-methods

[stable thicket]

bump here 🙂 any one know why it might not be showing up?

[runic crag]

Using container manager

[raven forge]

Then that depend son the NAS you have. Maybe it has an option to join the container. Otherwise log into the NAS via SSH and run something like docker exec -ti containernamehere sh.
Get the name via docker ps.

[runic crag]

Synology NAS

[raven forge]

According to this there's a terminal button: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=995uUSleHsg
It's the first thing I found by searching for synology shell container.

[runic crag]

Yes

I have opened the terminal for homeassitant

[raven forge]

Then run the command it says in the HACS docs there.

[runic crag]

Hi i ran the command, can i send you the picture?

[raven forge]

Sure.

[runic crag]

Im having an issue

[humble scaffold]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

[runic crag]

https://imgur.com/a/VPGWE1u

[raven forge]

https://www.take-a-screenshot.org/

Seems like you didn't use the command correctly.

Show me what you typed in.

[runic crag]

"wget -O - https://get.hacs.xyz | bash -"

[raven forge]

I want to see it in the terminal.

Alternatively run it in two steps

wget https://get.hacs.xyz
bash index.html

[runic crag]

yes

now its done

[runic crag]

i was writing it all together

[raven forge]

I still want to see it in the terminal.

[runic crag]

i have done the setup of hacs, it has been installed

thank you sooooo much🥹

[raven forge]

I was just curious why it didn't work the first time.

[runic crag]

i wrote like this wget -O - https://get.hacs.xyz/ | bash -

in one go

idk

[raven forge]

That should be fine though. Might be something specific to that terminal. I don't use synology.

[runic crag]

okay

now the difficult task is gonna start 😥

https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/188gik5/bticinolegrand_myhomerserver1_and_ha/

can you help me perform this aswell🥹

[hearty sphinx]

Logger: homeassistant.setup
Source: setup.py:246
First occurred: 11:25:46 PM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 11:25:46 PM

Unable to set up dependencies of 'history_stats'. Setup failed for dependencies: ['recorder']

[raven forge]

No.

[round stirrup]

Hi, hopefully someone may be able to assist or point me to further reading.

I am passing on my HA Blue and would like to do a full wipe for the new owner.

Before I screw something up I was going to run this command from the terminal.

"ha os datadisk wipe"

Is this the best way that leads to Onboarding and a new setup?

Appreciate all input.

Thanks 👍

[raven forge]

It is an option but personally I'd re-flash it completely.

[round stirrup]

Thanks for replying.

I must have missed that option.

So by re-flashing do you mean by USB?

Would you be so kind to provide a link with the process involved so I can understand how it works ?

Thanks once again for replying and helping, appreciate it 🙏

[raven forge]

I meant the same way you would install it: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/odroid/

[round stirrup]

Thanks.

So two options available and both will lead to a fresh install of HA.

Thank you once again for your time and information 👍

[raven forge]

Note that I don't really have any proper technical arguments for doing this. It just feels cleaner to me.

[round stirrup]

I'll try over the weekend when time permits.

Take care and all the best.

[stuck marten]

http://192.168.1.246:4357/ -> now is not reachable. Also HA portal/webinterface not reachable

[raven forge]

Check ha core logs and ha supervisor logs

[stuck marten]

how? I can only connect screen, kb/mouse

[humble mirage]

Then core logs and supervisor logs

[stuck marten]

https://imgur.com/a/4VnpLxD I see this when I connect a monitor to the rpiu

[humble mirage]

Correct

core logs

[raven forge]

I always write it in full so it works outside of the CLI too.

[humble mirage]

It does slightly annoy me that the CLI no longer tells people how to exit it, and that it doesn't handle ha a that prompt

[stuck marten]

so I type in the DOS screen 😛 : "core logs" ?

[humble mirage]

Not DOS, but yes

[stuck marten]

it looks like DOS screen haha

https://imgur.com/4FprLle

[humble mirage]

The missing right half may be relevant 😛

[stuck marten]

ill try to get a photo of it all

https://imgur.com/a/agnegzo

[raven forge]

Seems like you can benefit from following this: #general-archived message
What does ha core info say?

[stuck marten]

https://imgur.com/a/LHWwsN9

ip 172.30.32.1 ? whats this for

[raven forge]

It's the internal docker ip.

HAOS uses containers for everything: #general-archived message

[stuck marten]

ok, but hm let me power down, and reboot the rpi. See what I get in 1 hour, after it will not connect anymore. These timestamps of all these error is from yesterday evening, that period I had some wifi issues in the house....

[raven forge]

I recommend ethernet to avoid this. Any reason you're not using it?

[stuck marten]

with UTP connected, I have exactly the same issue

let me do that, I will connect now via utp. Any need for wifi info to delete somewhere?

[raven forge]

You shouldn't have rebooted just yet. We can't debug this way. Next time it happens try ha core restart --safe-mode.

Not sure, I never used WiFi with HAOS.

[stuck marten]

ok!

sorry about that, but its on utp now

shit, I disabled WLAN ipv4 and ipv6 in the settings-system-connections. Somehow also UTP is not connected now anynore. Can I reset/restore it again so UTP is getting ipv4 again?

never mind.... I see its 192.168.1.245 IP now.... whatthehell

ok, seems on UTP the router had max bound to 192.168.1.245, and when on wifi the router had mac bound to .246

WLAN0 is turned off now anyway. Portal is working at http://192.168.1.245:8123/

[raven forge]

UTP is not ethernet but a type of cable. Unless you're referring to something else.

[stuck marten]

utp i mean just the ethernet connection yes

[lament lynx]

hi all, im looking for help to detect a zigbee usb controller on a docker container

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#exposing-devices

ive included the ' --device /dev/ttyUSB0:/dev/ttyUSB0' line, and confirmed my device is ttyUSB0

can anyone suggest some commands to detect the device within the docker container?

its not showing in local:8123/config/devices/dashboard

[humble mirage]

That's because that's not what that page is for

That's for HA's idea of devices, not hardware

Also, pass the /dev/serial/by-id/ path

[raven forge]

I don't understand why the docs mention this. If the container is created privileged as described it should have access to all devices so this is superfluous, no?

[humble mirage]

Should be, yes

[lament lynx]

i can see the USB device in the docker container, as expected, via dmesg.. thats promising

[ 5.762740] usbcore: registered new interface driver ch341
[ 5.762750] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for ch341-uart
[ 5.762759] ch341 1-5:1.0: ch341-uart converter detected
[ 5.763114] usb 1-5: ch341-uart converter now attached to ttyUSB0

lsusb looks good too...

$ docker exec -it homeassistant bash

lsusb -v

...
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1a86:7523

i must confess to be using some random EFR32MG21 controller, so might need to flash it, etc

[humble mirage]

#zigbee-archived can help there

[lament lynx]

might be a EasyIot ZB-GW04

https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005004299922560.html

[lament lynx]

ok, all fixed

[stable thicket]

anyone have any ideas?

[raven forge]

Sell the mac and buy a (U)SFF machine 😄
How did you flash the disk?
I find a few thing searching for these:

• https://www.google.com/search?q=2012+Mac+Mini+boot+ubuntu
• https://www.google.com/search?q=mac+2012+boot+ubuntu
  Have you tried some of this?

[lapis tinsel]

I’m having problems with SkyConnect and the Thread-Only firmware. I can not use HA to swap to thread only mode like the current docs suggest. It shows the older dialog. When I manually install the OTBR and Matter add-ones, I can configure them to be happy and using the SkyConnect, but no device will commission - errors out on checking network communication.

When I had multi-protocol on it, it worked, but was flakey as hell with devices going unresponsive every few days.

[raven forge]

Sounds more like a #thread-archived question.

[lapis tinsel]

yeah - fun thing about the SkyConnect, ya tend to get bandied about channels here because there is no dedicated place to talk about it

happy to go back there though. thanks

Legit kinda regretting the dongle. It doesn’t seem to work well at all.

[tardy meteor]

I'm getting some errors when installing home assistant, can anyone help?

https://gist.github.com/rowan-mcalpin/a3b939d69728d1c30135c4b700d94d78

Errors are lines 459-502

[stuck marten]

for some reason portal is just connecting like it should. Only switched to ethernet, but also disabled wlan ipv4 ipv6 in the settings. If it changes I will report again, thanks so far 🙂

[lament lynx]

is anyone running HA core on debian trixie?

[humble mirage]

With Docker, or pip install?

[raven forge]

Please ask what you really want to know.

[humble mirage]

I really want to know if the wife will kill me if I eat the last cookie...

[lament lynx]

deb13 with pip install

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#install-home-assistant-core

[humble mirage]

@lament lynx

1. Why? Just why?
2. Docker is the way
3. See 1. and 2.

Core is for when Docker isn't an option, or you like hard work

[lament lynx]

ok thanks, will use deb12 and docker

[indigo kraken]

Hey,
how can I stop HA Supervised? I manually installed it on a N100.

When I stop the container they just reboot

[grand pivot]

you really shouldn't have installed Supervised

it is not a good place to start, and then you immediately start seeing issues

use a container install, or a VM with HAOS

[unreal bridge]

i have bought the sonoff zigbee dongle and want to switch out my conbee dongle, do anybody know about a resource on how to switch?

[tulip mirage]

try #zigbee-archived

[unreal bridge]

ok my bad sorry

[tulip mirage]

no problem, some people only hang out in certain channels-- more about getting you in front of the right people than correcting you.

[wintry hatch]

When i move in a couple weeks i intend to start from scratch and move from a Docker Container running on desktop-ass Ubuntu to HAOS on a VM so that using Matter/Thread is smoother and I can more easily use a Skyconnect as a TBR
I'm kinda unfamiliar with the hypervisor OS options out there, what is recommended, keeping in mind the IPV6 funkiness Thread utilizes? Proxmox? Unraid? Something else?

[flint pollen]

When I execute the command "ha audio logs" I can see that the filesystem.sh exited with code 139. Does someone know how can I dig more info about the problem in haos ? My USB speaker is not recognized anymore since the last OS update.

s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: starting
cont-init: info: running /etc/cont-init.d/filesystem.sh
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
cont-init: info: /etc/cont-init.d/filesystem.sh exited 139
cont-init: warning: some scripts exited nonzero
s6-rc: warning: unable to start service legacy-cont-init: command exited 1
/run/s6/basedir/scripts/rc.init: warning: s6-rc failed to properly bring all the services up! Check your logs (in /run/uncaught-logs/current if you have in-container logging) for more information.
/run/s6/basedir/scripts/rc.init: fatal: stopping the container.

[humble mirage]

Proxmox

[trim needle]

I run mine on an Unraid VM and am happy, but that's my only experience. TrueNAS might be worth a shout too.

[humble mirage]

TrueNAS .... maybe not

Many users of it have problems

[crude inlet]

13.1? You might submit this as an OS issue if you can confirm. You can swap back to the previous OS version using ha os boot-slot other in the terminal

[trim needle]

Gotcha. I'm just thinking in terms of "virtualization capable home server OS". Proxmox is great but it's a bit much for home users. At least, it's a bit much for me. 😅

[indigo kraken]

I did not start with this. I used Supervised for 3 Years, but now I want to install HAOS on a Pi. Now I need to remove it from my old Server.

[grand pivot]

just take a backup and restore it

[humble mirage]

You'd want to uninstall the .deb

[grand pivot]

no need to stop it

[indigo kraken]

?

[grand pivot]

oh, well, if you just want to uninstall it...

[indigo kraken]

I want to remove it from my old server

and use it

thats the reason

[humble mirage]

Supervised is installed using a .deb - uninstall the deb

[grand pivot]

you were talking about stopping the containers

[indigo kraken]

Yes I would like to stop it first so I could use it later, if something goes wrong.

[humble mirage]

You'd need to stop all the containers at the same time... and that may also not be enough

[indigo kraken]

I tried, but they still restarted

[grand pivot]

assuming that you started it with some systemctl thing, then stop/disable it that way

[humble mirage]

Supervised isn't really designed to be stopped

[indigo kraken]

What daemon do I need to stop when booting?

I already set the containers to not start at boot

[grand pivot]

BTW, your comment plus the "new poster" icon is why I thought it was a new install:

I believe it installs a service, so you need to stop and disable that service

[indigo kraken]

I normally just trouble shoot myself, thats why I never was on here.

[humble mirage]

Probably something from systemd

[indigo kraken]

I try it

haos-agent.service loaded active running Home Assistant>
hassio-apparmor.service loaded active exited Hass.io AppArm>
hassio-supervisor.service loaded active running Hass.io superv>

[humble mirage]

Stop and disable them all

[indigo kraken]

Done

[indigo kraken]

Really? Will it remove everything?

[humble mirage]

Well, sort of

I don't know anybody who's done it

[indigo kraken]

Oh okay

[humble mirage]

We try to steer people away from even installing it

[indigo kraken]

Yes I know

But it worked pretty well tbh

Except for the Docker Cgroup thing

But I totally get that it is too much work

It seems like HA is not booting👍

Thanks

[stable thicket]

Haha what’s (U)SFF? I flashed it by erasing with disk utility and then using etcher to write the Ubuntu image to it

[stable thicket]

Did I google it? Sure did! Wasn’t able to find anything particularly helpful.

I might need to find the Ubuntu discord and see if they’ve got ideas.

One general question is why Ubuntu is needed to install HAOS to begin with? Is HAOS dependent on it?

[wintry hatch]

(ultra) small form factor pc

i'm looking at the install docs and it's a big red flag that the macOS instructions do not even attempt to walk you through running HAOS on bare metal.

[crude inlet]

Ubuntu is only used as a tool running off of a live usb. It is used to write the HAOS image to the target drive.

[north radish]

Why is it that the Demo add-on, Demo Living Room Bulb Update and Demo Update with Progress require updates each time I restart HA? Is there a way of keeping the demo addons without having them show up as notifications in my setup?

[frank prairie]

I just unboxed Home Assistant Green, and can't connect to it, looking for ideas. The box is running, heartbeat good, connecting to the HDMI port shows that is loaded Home Assistant (with an "ha>" prompt), and I can ping homeassistant.local from my Mac... but I can't connect to http://homeassistant.local:8123 (or by IP) in my browser (or by curl). Ideas?

[raven forge]

Sorry, I should have said PC rather than machine. It refers to small PCs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_form_factor_PC
You can get very cheap servers via eBay by buying a used office PC which often come in those form factors.

[raven forge]

Check ha supervisor logs and ha core logs with a keyboard and monitor.

[stable thicket]

at that point shouldn't i just buy HA Green?

[raven forge]

In my opinion? No: #general-archived message
I was referring to the pi there but a lot of it applies to the green too.

[stable thicket]

yeah, i guess i could do that - i was hoping to repurpose this mac mini but if i cant figure this out then at some point it'll stop being worth it to try

[raven forge]

I think this should be possible with the MAC. I faintly remember people using it for this but I never used a MAC and can't provide any insights.

[stable thicket]

Technically I'm not even having an HA problem. It's an Ubuntu problem lmao

[flint pollen]

Does someone know how to downgrade haos to 12.x ? I upgraded from 12.x to 13.0, I got the problem with sound device and tried another upgrade to 13.1 (which did not fix my problem ha ha). I tried "ha os boot-slot other" but the last one was 13.0

[viscid sigil]

at the CLI: ha os update --version 12.4

[flint pollen]

Thank you ! 😄

[dense basalt]

I'm trying to back up my HASOS system but apparently cannot due to the following error:

2024-08-22 18:00:40.151 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.backups.backup] Can't backup folder media: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/data/media/frigate/clips/Living_Room-1723449383.240149-fpc8t1.jpg'

[dense basalt]

so is it impossible for me to do a backup now?

[raven forge]

Have you tried rebooting the OS?

[dense basalt]

well it got rebooted today when i upgraded the hassos image

this is a new fail for me.. it usually fails during the backup of the 55gb influxdb.. never this

well.. i guess i just risk it without an update

backup that is

[raven forge]

Or do a partial backup without media?

[dense basalt]

bt that's not a full backup and i don't know if i can do a full restore to a new device with that

plus how do i skip media?

[raven forge]

Deselect it?

Go here: https://my.home-assistant.io/create-link/?redirect=supervisor_snapshots

[dense basalt]

wow.. the backup options have expanded since i last looked

i still think the influxdb may be in the path somewhere and prevent it from working

this is wild.. it actually backup up.. faster than ever before

for some reason it takes forever to download which is a bit weird

it was only 2.5gb and it only just finished

[cobalt patio]

mqtt newbie starting configuration problem

[haughty heath]

Can i still run GPIO pins when it is running software on the raspberry?

[primal wadi]

Can someone send me the ESP32 2102 flash.bin?

[haughty heath]

Google cant find it? 1st google run show me this link

https://www.esp32cube.com/basis/022_flash_bin

[humble mirage]

Not easily, no

[humble scaffold]

@primal wadi Please do not cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

[humble mirage]

ESP32 has nothing to do with installing HA anyway

[haughty heath]

Ty ill keep 2 raspberry then ❤️

[primal wadi]

I don’t have a computer and I can’t download the binary file manually

[haughty heath]

ESP32 has nothing to do with installing HA anyway

[prime rapids]

My on raspberry pi running home assistant just stopped working out of nowhere, can someone help me to fix it?

[haughty heath]

Can you ping it ?

[gloomy orbit]

What does "stopped working" mean?

[prime rapids]

I mean, it worked and I was configuring the UI, when suddenly it froze and the URL became unreachable..

[humble mirage]

Power problems?

Can you connect a keyboard and monitor

[primal wadi]

ESP32 is HA compatible

Or what you mean

[haughty heath]

New installation
http://homeassistant.local:8123/
Was running the webpage fine installing took about 20 min
And i think it reboot and did not do anyhing after the 1st 20 min

On the screen it shows startup
And os version 13.1
And the url homeassistant.local:8123
Etc.

Waiting for input
ha >_

[stuck palm]

so i just installed home assistant. and i can connect to the webpage but its been loading on a loading screen and says onboarding on the url is this normal? if so how long will it be loading for

[tulip mirage]

This channel is for problems installing home assistant itself, not other things that integrate with it. Try #diy-archived or #integrations-archived instead (depending on your issue)

[haughty heath]

Observer url works and shows connected-supported-healthy

Home assistant url does not work
Err connection refused

Monitor on the raspberry pi looks fine

[crude inlet]

Do you see ip addresses along with the host name urls?

[haughty heath]

Yes

The observer url works :4357
But the home url : 8123 does not

[haughty heath]

I cant send a picture but it does not look like i can find an error on screen

[burnt yew]

i just migrated from a Pi4 with an SSD connected via USB over to a Pi5 with an M2 hat. it took me less than an hour to put the Pi together and get HA up and running on the new Pi, including restoring a backup from my previous HA instance. i definitely wanted to stay on a Pi because of the deep support that HA offers for it, so it was great to see how simple and streamlined y'all have gotten this setup. great work!

i documented the steps to set up the Pi5 with the M2 Hat/nvme drive and threw them on the subreddit for anyone trying to do the same - https://old.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/1eyq2ez/migrating_from_raspberry_pi_4_with_usb_ssd_to_a/

[haughty heath]

Anny command's i can try to test Functions
Ps. rebooting did not work

[humble mirage]

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#home-assistant
Type ha core logs (or just core logs) and see what's going on

[haughty heath]

only see info service legacy stopping one import error cannot import name req pyt_ver restart exit_code __ version

maby python did not boot or so

if i try the command core stop it says error job running group container_homeassistaint

[haughty heath]

after using ha core check i get the message file config.....yaml not found ?

[prime rapids]

Nope, indicators are still working. The fan however doesnt.

[humble scaffold]

@haughty heath I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[leaden egret]

I see more than 200 devices without names, without integration, without anything...
How can I delete them?
https://i.imgur.com/COwtI2l.png

[humble mirage]

Nope, indicators are still working. The

[sinful pulsar]

new install here , http://homeassistant.local:8123/ does not work - setup on Synology nas. When i install the companion app on any phone or tablet it wont connect after entering login detials. I can access via browser via IP so i know the firewall is ok

[raven forge]

.local is not guaranteed to work on every setup. mDNS is finicky.

[subtle mirage]

Good morning. I have a problem installing HA on the MINISFORUM N40 minipc. At the end of the installation, the Home Assistant CLI not starting! message appears. Jump into emergency console. Can someone help me please?

[deft bear]

As my initial HA setup was using a raspberry pi I set up the database as a SQL Lite on Maria DB on my Synology NAS to safe the SD card from dying.
I have since moved to a NUC with HAOS running in a Proxmox VM. Also considering, that the build in database was much improved I am considering to move back.
I do not care about the short term history. Reason for this consideration is also that the Energy Dashboard takes ages, if I hit the yearly overview, or want to compare data and would expect an improvement if I move the DB to the local machine HAOS is running on.
Any thoughts?

[raven forge]

A SQLite on MariaDB
🤔

Don't expect SQLite to be faster. It shouldn't he much slower either though.
In my experience the database becomes slow when ot reaches 1G so try to keep it tidy.

[subtle mirage]

Javier — hoy a las 14:15
Good morning. I have a problem installing HA on the MINISFORUM N40 minipc. At the end of the installation, the Home Assistant CLI not starting! message appears. Jump into emergency console. Can someone help me please? I write "login" or "iniciar sesion" but not starting HA

[versed vapor]

Hi, is the device connected to a network?

[deft bear]

Haven’t checked its size, but I only keep 7 days of history excluding even some sensors I do not care about at all, still the energy dashboard is damn slow loading data other than todays

[subtle mirage]

Yes it's connected to a network

[woeful latch]

Hey all! I'm having some trouble migrating Home Assistant from my Raspberry Pi to my new server PC running docker. I was running HAOS on the Pi, and as I mentioned I am running docker on the new PC. I have downloaded a backup, and uploaded it to what I believe to be the right place, although I am not sure how to restore it. Two backups show up in /var/lib/docker/volumes/homeassistant_data/_data/backups, but only one in the actual backup page of home assistant. How can I fix this?

[grand pivot]

just extract the backup, and then extract the homeassistant.tar.gz (or whatever it's called) archive into your new /config directory

[woeful latch]

OK, thank you!

[grand pivot]

there's no automatic way to do it

[woeful latch]

Ah, OK, that's what I was missing. Thanks!

[rare valley]

I have no idea how this is even possible, but my Home Assistant instance somehow ended up with over 200,000 entities. I tried loading the entities tab to see if I could figure out where they're all coming from, but it just showed "No Data" for a while until my browser tab eventually crashed. Same thing happens with states under developer tools.

I checked each individual integration and they all have well under 100 entities each, so it wouldn't be that.

Any ideas for how I can troubleshoot and fix this? Maybe some way I can export the entity list without having to go through the UI?

[prime rapids]

Does anyone know something about the raspberry pi in general?

Cause my fan stopped working along with homeasstistant, but the green power LED is still shining-

[hasty owl]

replace fan

they tend to go bad

i had to replace mine every once in a while

[crystal shard]

Hope this is the right channel:

Every time i update, it takes forever, and its stuck on "Installing" with the bar just pulsing, any tips for getting the update to actually install? i often end up having to take my HA offline by unplugging my rasberry pie from power and rebooting it that way. Any tips apprechiated

[raven forge]

Use a SSH client and open two sessions to your SSH addon. Run one of the commands in each session

ha supervisor logs -vf
ha host logs -vf`

Then trigger an update and see what is logged.
What hardware are you using? What are you updating exactly?

[woeful latch]

I'm having some issues trying to connect HA to a cloudflare tunnel; I believe everything is set up correctly, as the tunnel shows as active and I am routing traffic to 192.168.0.28:8123, where my HA instance is running, but when I navigate to my domain, it simply shows 400: Bad Request on a black screen.

Any help is much appreciated!

I should also add, I am using a locally managed tunnel running on the same machine as my HA container, with cloudflared running as a service on the machine.

[storm sluice]

check the logs?

probably not setup http component for proxied request properly

[modest nexus]

https://imgur.com/a/6CxtHt4

Just installed home assistant on raspberry pi and this keeps on happening

[ornate viper]

When i passtrough my wireless card (rtl8821ce) to the vm that runs home assistant, the system kernel panics and throws a stack trace, i confirmed that it's the driver that is causing this

[calm gull]

I got this problem:

Source: components/http/ban.py:135
integration: HTTP (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 2:22:45 AM (3 occurrences)
Last logged: 2:22:45 AM

Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from 162.158.155.65 (162.158.155.65). Requested URL: '/api/websocket'. (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) QtWebEngine/6.7.1 Chrome/118.0.5993.220 Safari/537.36)
Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from 172.70.38.115 (172.70.38.115). Requested URL: '/api/websocket'. (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) QtWebEngine/6.7.1 Chrome/118.0.5993.220 Safari/537.36)
Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from 172.70.114.171 (172.70.114.171). Requested URL: '/api/websocket'. (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) QtWebEngine/6.7.1 Chrome/118.0.5993.220 Safari/537.36)```
Those messages are spamming my log in 50ms intervall.
my network setup is:
HomeAssistant ==> Traefik ==> cloudflare ==> web

for some reason cloudflare  calls something all the time.
if i disable WebSockets in cloudflare it stops logging, but then i also can not login.
maybe you guys can help me figure out the issue.

[fallen lichen]

I'd imagine that's just traffic from exposing your HA instance to the public

[calm gull]

problem is that its spamming my logs until it's crashing

[calm gull]

okey, i just disabled the logger for now. but i dont like the solution, since i would like to know why its spamming it

[calm gull]

alright i made a completely new vm and i am having this issue

[candid karma]

I have a sort of bizarre problem. I have installed HA on a raspberry zero 2 w (headless setup apart from monitor) with a wifi connection and it has booted up nicely. The problem is that it doesn't show up anywhere on the network even tho it seems to have a network connection and I am not able to access the webpage in any way. Any clue how I could continue from here?

[calm gull]

i don't get it. i tried cloudflared now and i still getting the same warnings, i guess i will create a github ticket now

[calm gull]

https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/114575
okey found the open ticket. seems like nobody found a solution yet

[half shuttle]

I also have RB Pi. It has been running HA for some years, but after the recent update two days ago, it doesn't reboot. Connecting a screen shows a boot loop. During the boot it shows many things as [OK], but the last message looks like Starting Grow File System on /mnt/data...

I googled of course, and found some people relating this to the Zigbee Sonoff Dongle-E, which I too have attached to a USB-port

Any advice?

[raven forge]

Please take a video of the boot. I don't see a relation between the growing file system and zigbee.

[half shuttle]

Thnaks for asking: https://photos.app.goo.gl/dr7yqHdc2rvVZYq56

[raven forge]

I'm on a small screen right now but I don't notice anything erroneous.

[half shuttle]

But why then would it reboot? And better, how can I interrupt it? Is there some sort of safe start mode? Or how would I roll back the last update?

[raven forge]

What hardware is this running on.

On a normal OS I'd press E during boot and add the debug boot argument. Not sure how best to do that with HAOS and can't check right now.

[half shuttle]

Raspberry Pi 4b, and yes: Haos

I will try E

[raven forge]

You could use this: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/blob/dev/Documentation/configuration.md#bootargs
Not as nice as a key press but it should do.

[half shuttle]

I got it to boot again, using another power supply. Amazing. Now trying to install yet another update, and get the Zigbee SonOff getting to work again.

[raven forge]

I don't like pis 😐
Thanks for reporting back though.

[half shuttle]

You inspire me, to continue towards my next step. Maybe you can name the steps to take?. I already setup an HP ProDesk with Proxmox, which is now running pi-hole in a container. Of course I would like to create another container for HA. But what steps to take, to move the current HA-config from the Pi? I have full backups in Google Drive. Are they hardware independent?

[raven forge]

I'd recommend you create a HAOS VM instead. With that you can restore your full backup from the pi and have a nearly seemless transition without any missing features: https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#backups
You should be able to restore a HA backup taken on a different architecture. Remember to reboot HAOS after a restore.

[half shuttle]

Thank you. Will work on that tomorrow

Ah, I think you are recommending a VM over a container in Proxmox. I am struggling to understand the differences, this is my first time working with virtual machines

[raven forge]

There are articles that can explain it better than I can. The gist is that a VM behaves like a real PC while a container does not. You cannot install windows in a proxmox VE CT for example.

[humble scaffold]

@unborn prawn I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[proven grove]

There is no switches: property. https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/command_line/

[unborn prawn]

but isnt test_switch one?

[proven grove]

Yes, but you have it nested under a switches: key, which is invalid.

[unborn prawn]

i see, so it should be like this?
`switch:

• platform: command_line
  name: "Test Switch"
  command_on: "echo 'Turning on'"
  command_off: "echo 'Turning off'"`?

[proven grove]

That should work, yeah. If it doesn’t, use one of the examples in the link I sent. I know those work.

[unborn prawn]

and the command_off/on can use shell commands, correct?

[proven grove]

Yup. Just remember that it executes in the context of what is available to the container.

[unborn prawn]

stupid question, is it also possible to get it to run those commands outside the container? becaue it needs python modules

plus it needs to turn on/off gpio pins

[proven grove]

Not easily, no. You could install your scripts to your config directory and I think there’s a way to install pygpio. There are a few posts on the forums about it.

[tawdry radish]

Can I get some help with this: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/refused-to-connect-to-ha-new-oracle-vm-installation/762536

[copper steppe]

Seems likely your VM is set up with a private network rather than being bridged.

what ip address does ha think it has?

[tawdry radish]

I have set it to bridged

10.0.0.116

[copper steppe]

what does haos say on the console? it has ip addresses and so on, and any errors

use imgur

eg mine is https://imgur.com/czhaq0d

[tawdry radish]

https://imgur.com/a/zDhmjTe

[copper steppe]

and your LAN is indeed 10.0.0.x/24?

[tawdry radish]

Yes it is. Xfinity for some reason uses 10.0.0.1

[copper steppe]

that's fine.

not that it matters but your haos is a little old. unlikely to be the issue.

what's at the end of core logs (type that at the haos prompt)

[tawdry radish]

https://imgur.com/a/s0VvJQR

[copper steppe]

does your VM have access to the internet, and working DNS? It's probably trying to pull images

it's dying during... startup

[tawdry radish]

I didn't think I'd ahve to setup internet access. I'll google how to do that

[copper steppe]

you shouldn't need to set anything, if your router (xfinity?) provides DNS and routing to the internet

[tawdry radish]

It should without any issues

Checking into it tho

[copper steppe]

there may be more details further up the log. i never saw that error before.

[tawdry radish]

Stupid question then. How do I scroll up on the logs? Nothing I'm used to seems to work

[copper steppe]

not a stupid question. I have no idea myself.

[tawdry radish]

Can't find a forum for it either haha. Scroll, srolllock, page up, page down, arrow keys. None of that works haha

[copper steppe]

I login to a shell ,then look at the logs there

type "login" then "less /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant/home-assistant.log"

There's probably a better way, but I never bothered to find it

[tawdry radish]

Says no file or directory

[copper steppe]

I don't know man, you might need to look around a bit. My haos is newer than yours.

which bit didn't work? the second? it might be different location

"login" drops you into a linux shell

[tawdry radish]

I'll try the newer install then

[copper steppe]

the second one is just looking at a file in the filesystem

persist here a bit, then you can use haos to upgrade itself

You can use "docker ps" to list all the docker processes

or "docker inspect homeassistant" to see the nerdy details about one of them which runs HA

which includes where the /config files are mounted. mine is https://imgur.com/sdE5rzH

[tawdry radish]

Thanks I'll keep working at it

Upgrading the version fixed it

[copper steppe]

cool cool

suggest post back in the forums on your posting, and let others know that

[raven forge]

I came around to testing it and it works with HAOS too: https://i.imgur.com/Q6rXgbU.png

[gentle spade]

Hi all :)!

I have an odroid N2 laying around doing nothing. Can I use this instead of the N2+?

[tender wren]

Yes, but it it is less performant.

[placid sage]

Hello

Is this PC enough for a complete OS and if so, which one would you recommend?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/226310230827

[raven forge]

Yes. Proxmox VE: #hardware-archived message
I'd pick something with 16G RAM in this case but in general that hardware is okay.

[lament lynx]

hey folks, how do i access a cli shell in an HA container in docker?

[raven forge]

docker exec -ti CONTAINERNAME sh.

Note that HA CLI is a separate software that is (to my knowledge) not shipped with the docker image.
That command above gives you a shell into the container though.

[lament lynx]

yep, understood

is it possible to install an add-on via cli?

..or intergration via cli?

[raven forge]

Only the HAOS installation method has addons. I'm not sure. People usually use HACS' GUI to do that.

I don't really see anything for that in the hass command's help. Perhaps via the API but I wouldn't call that CLI.

[lament lynx]

perhaps using hass-cli ?

https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2019/02/04/introducing-home-assistant-cli/

hmm, are https://github.com/home-assistant-ecosystem/home-assistant-cli and https://github.com/home-assistant/cli different tools?

aah, go vs python

[coarse pumice]

hello everyone i'm new to this community, i just installed Home Assistant on Virtualbox on windows following the tutorial on the official site but now ha is running i can ping the ip but cannot reach it from the webpage by the link http://homeassistant.local:8123/

[lament lynx]

hi, try http://your.ip.address:8123/ ?

[coarse pumice]

already tryed but still nothing

[lament lynx]

http://your.vboxs.ip.address:8123/ ?

[coarse pumice]

just tryed and nothing

[lament lynx]

are you using a hardwired Ethernet connection?

[coarse pumice]

yes

[lament lynx]

is your vbox started, can you login etc?

[coarse pumice]

yes

can i send a picture on your personal account?

to be sure is running correctly

[lament lynx]

hmm, i think you need to find what the ip of your vbox is?

$ ip a s

will show your vbox's ip address

[coarse pumice]

where i have to run this command?

i send u some pictures can u check it?

[lament lynx]

meh, im not sure what the user/passwd is for the vbox though :/

[lament lynx]

perhaps wait for someone else to help, i'm new to HASS too

[coarse pumice]

oh okey sorry

[lament lynx]

poss. i give bad advice to you

[coarse pumice]

thanks anyway

[lament lynx]

no probs, you are close to a solution 🤞

https://superuser.com/questions/1718684/how-can-i-use-a-bridged-adapter-in-virtualbox

...says 'Bridged Adapter will get its IP from your router.'

https://thelinuxcode.com/use-virtualbox-bridged-adapter/

i dont have a windows system near, so cant help too much

[lucid robin]

Hi does anyone know if its possible to customize the home assistant install so that it comes pre installed with specific addons, and other configs

Esphome + esp device configs so it would automatically adopt ESP devices on the same network with specific names as me the yaml files?

Sort like if i were to backup an existing HA but it seem like a fresh install the same time

[wary mulch]

Posted in the green chat too but this one is far more active and also relevant...

Ok I got an interesting one, and probably not supported but I've been using HA for a while now and a few months back I made the switch from running on a HA green over to proxmox. My old green box had been collecting dust so I decided to try to repurpose it.

First I tried to flash it with Pimox (proxmox for pi) which didn't work, then I tried a variety of different pi-os, debian and watch builds which also didn't work. Every single time, I'd plug an HDMI in or ssh in and be greated with the HA cli.

I then attempted to DD the drives in a hope to remove the haos overlay that I assumed was blocking the image flash.

Well I guess that basically bricked the green box. Now I just get the 'waiting for cli to start' message but it never starts. It still gives me the blinking underscore to start typing but the commands don't actually do anything or receive any response. Ctrl-c does nothing, in fact the only keys that get any response is Ctrl-alt-del which reboots the machine but nothing changes.

I even ordered a UART debugging tool but don't really understand how to use it with the green and there isn't any documentation I can find.

I am able to load a USB with an ssh public key and the load that into the green which actually works for ssh unfortunately it keeps saying my public key is wrong so won't let me connect.

At this point I'd even be willing to throw haos back on there and just use it as a 2nd instance to run a few separate addon's that I was hoping to run without ha in the way but I'll take what I can get. I've spent an obscene amount of time on this project already and probably ruined this board but if it is still functional, I'd hate for it to continue collecting dust until it ends up in a landfill

[raven forge]

This is highly #green-archived specific though. I doubt anyone without experience with it can help you here.

[wary mulch]

Yeah that's why I posted in #green-archived first. It's not really green specific as this can in theory happen to any SBC or pi or dev board so there maybe someone with relevant experience here too

[dapper fulcrum]

I’m looking at making the move to Docker from HAOS in a VM. The reason being, I want to leverage my PCI TPU and iGPU for Frigate. I currently host Frigate in a seperate VM running Docker, with my other non-HA containers. The host OS is Windows, so there’s no way to passthrough my PCI devices to the Docker VM. I can’t be bothered with Proxmox/ESXi passthrough options. Installing Ubuntu on the host, then running everything in Docker containers seems more straight forward.

Other than having to manage my own Docker containers for add ons, are there any other major things I might miss moving away from HAOS?

[proven grove]

Not really? Backups are a bit different, but I do OS level backups anyhow, so that’s not a big deal for me. Other than that, I’ve never missed out on much using Container over HAOS.

OH! File editing and sharing has to be done at the OS level as well. You can shoehorn vs.code server into the HA UI, but I have never had a need for that.

[runic crag]

Hi can anyone help me in installing HA supervisor in my synology NAS in docker specifically.

I have normal version HA installed in my docker but it doesnt support integrations for my automation.

Also my synology nas doesnt support virtual machine so i need to run it specifically in docker.

Please help
Thanks

https://mariushosting.com/how-to-install-home-assistant-supervisor-on-your-synology-nas/

This link guides us for it
It says to install a file in the file manager “jobs.json”

The problem is the file, Its paid!

[fallen lichen]

You've already got a docker setup... I'd advise sticking with that. Just run separate containers for any add-ons you want. Following guidance like If you get notifications that say “system unsupported“, just ignore them and delete them. from that site is just going to cause you headaches

[raven forge]

Please stick to one of the documented and supported installation methods. Which integration can't you install?

[runic crag]

I cant use vs-code, i installed it. But dont know how to access and run it on docker to edit files yaml

[humble scaffold]

An add-on is a Docker container with tweaks to allow it to be configured in the Supervisor UI. It is only available in Home Assistant Operating System and Home Assistant Supervised (#installation-archived) since if you've used any other installation method, you can install software already.

[raven forge]

This is not an integration.

[latent urchin]

Should the QEMU guest agent be running on OVA installations in Synology Virtual Machine Manager? systemctl status qemu-guest.service tells me that the service is inactive because the start condition is unmet (ConditionVirtualization=|kvm was not met, ConditionVirtualization=|qem was not met). However, in dmesg, I find Hypervisor detected: KVM

[raven forge]

Ideally yes.

[median charm]

Where do I unzip HACS 2.0 on a core installation? HA root?

[raven forge]

Please enter the VM's CLI and enter systemd-detect-virt and share what you see.
You might have to enter login first if you see a ha >.

[raven forge]

Any reason you're not using the install script?

[median charm]

Yeah, unzip not available on Synology

[raven forge]

One of the packages here should provide it: https://synocommunity.com/packages
You can see where it extracts it here:

• https://github.com/hacs/get/blob/3579b1289ea26db9cac4a479330d69fae4f1a92b/get#L76
• https://github.com/hacs/get/blob/3579b1289ea26db9cac4a479330d69fae4f1a92b/get#L11

[median charm]

Thanks!

gonna try something, what if I run it inside the HA container? Will try that

[raven forge]

You said core so I didn't know you used a container. That should work.

[median charm]

I thought that was core. 😄

What's the correct thing to call it?

[viscid glacier]

container

[median charm]

🤦‍♂️

[raven forge]

Technically it is core, just in a container. You can see the common terms here: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/#advanced-installation-methods
I always call HA OS HAOS though. Maybe I should stop that.

[median charm]

I've been thinking of moving to HA OS for a long while. Just haven't gotten around to it

[runic crag]

I have been trying really hard, but cant find the configuration files in my nas on which i have installed my nas with docker, config file, which i need to edit. I can find the anotherjulien files but cant see the configuration yaml file anywhere. Can anyone help me find config files

[fallen lichen]

Where did you mount the container's /config path to.... that's where they are

[runic crag]

https://imgur.com/a/IEYqCNc

what do i fill here

https://imgur.com/uOPIeuW andthese are the files while installing

[raven forge]

You might want to check your link.

[runic crag]

see now pls

[raven forge]

I guess you can right click one of the files and check the path in the properties.

[runic crag]

yes

[runic crag]

but what do i fill in this?

[runic crag]

which one of these

[raven forge]

But since this is docker you have to use different ones. No clue. I don't know what MyHome is.

All I can tell you is that custom_components is in /config as far as the container is concerned.

[runic crag]

it is bticino legrand automation with mh201 gateway

[runic crag]

there is no /config in these files 🥲

in the home assistant folder of docker

[raven forge]

as far as the container is concerned

Paths are different inside the container. You can mount /bla to /blubb inside a container.

You see that /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG here? https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative#docker-compose
This can be anything but for the container that path will be reachable through /config.

[runic crag]

you mean i need to run a command?>

[raven forge]

It's why I really dislike most docker GUIs. It hides the complexity but once you want to do something a tiny bit more advanced you're out of luck and knowledge. HAOS has a similar problem.

No. I'm trying explain to you why I said as far as the container is concerned.

[runic crag]

what can i do now 🥲

[raven forge]

You can make yourself familiar with docker's storage docs: https://docs.docker.com/engine/storage/bind-mounts/
The MyHome integration isn't well documented :<

I suppose you can put your myhome.yaml config into MyHOME-master-2 (what a terrible name) and give it /config/myhome.yaml.

#integrations-archived can help better with that.

[chilly lagoon]

Hey, I'm using Nginx ssl proxy addon with hass-os and would like to not expose the default unecrypted access to the whole network but only to localhost - how can I archieve this best case update-safe?

[humble mirage]

Maybe https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/http#server_host

Though that may break add-ons being able to reach it too

[chilly lagoon]

Thanks, was considering it but I though I should change it on the docker-level to only bind to 127.0.0.1 - or did I misunderstood the warning above The option server_host should only be used on a Home Assistant Core installation!? compared to hass-os

[dapper dagger]

I want to migrate my home assistant to a new raspberry pi and a NVME SSD. Is there a way i can flash home assistant onto the SSD that is connected to my motherboard?

Which then i will take out and put into the pi to run home assistant

Is it possible to just write it to an SD card and copy the files over to the NVME SSD

[humble mirage]

Thanks, was considering it but I though

[chilly lagoon]

What about https://rpi-clone.jeffgeerling.com/ or dd (https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/127757/how-to-clone-os-from-sd-to-ssd-using-command-line)

[dim raven]

I'll Reword my question and problem,
do I need a whole new case something like **Argon ONE M.2 for Raspberry Pi 4 ** when it comes to using an SSD for Home Assistant on the Raspberry Pi 4
I've currently got:

• Raspberry Pi 4
• 250GB NVMe SSD (Westen Digitial PC SN520)
• Tower Case

If I got a USB-to-SSD and use my MicroSD I should be okay to run it and use ssd for read/write?

[humble mirage]

There's a forum thread for known good SSD adapters

But yeah, you can leave the OS on the SD and move the data to the SSD

I'd 100% recommend using an externally powered adapter/USB hub to avoid the common power problems

[dim raven]

Thanks @humble mirage, so my SSD should be fine it's all about finding the right adapter? I thought I saw a thread about best ones might of been on a youtube video so I'll go through them

[humble mirage]

Yes, at least in theory

The Pi isn't the best platform, and I'm sure between that and HAOS's support (or not) for adapters some things won't work

[dim raven]

Thanks

[rugged lichen]

hello. I forgot my home assistant green password so i follow this tutorial (https://green.home-assistant.io/guides/reset_with_sd_card/#inserting-the-sd-card) for reset my password but whene I put the MicroSD card in home assistant green that's look like it's don't work. Can someone help me (I'me french so sorry if my english isn't correct, I think's this chanel is the right chanel but don't sure so if it don't sorry about that too)

[humble mirage]

#green-archived may be better able to help

(also your English is way better than my French)

[rugged lichen]

tanks you.

[hollow loom]

Hello, I simply dont know, how to get a solution for an issue with failed install of a backup, i took before. Getting lots of errors in reports, after I try to install it on a fresh installed HAOS image. Could somebody give me some hints, how and where to get it solved? Regards and thanks a lot! ... #lasthope

[humble scaffold]

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

• https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language, and consider picking a longer expiry)
• http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

[humble mirage]

Share the logs

[hollow loom]

where and how exactly? first time in discord 🙂

[humble mirage]

Do you not see the message from the bot?

#installation-archived message

(also mentioned in #rules which you supposedly read)

[hollow loom]

i#ll try...just a moment

[hollow loom]

Hello, well - i tried 1. to 7. (mentioned in rules and welcome) but nothing worked, cause the errors are too specific...tried different methods of reinstalling the backuped HomeAssistant...where can I share the log? Here, directly in the chat, or as an answer?

[robust cairn]

as a link uploaded to the pasteservice upper mentioned

[humble scaffold]

@hollow loom Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

• https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language, and consider picking a longer expiry)
• http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

[humble mirage]

Again ☝️

[manic bone]

I have had HA running on my QNAP NAS for many years but a new firmware update seems to have broke it. It says that LXC containers are no longer supported, only LXD containers. I do not see HA listed as a container under the LXD tab in QNAP container station. Anyone know if this is solveable?

[crude inlet]

Maybe it can be migrated?

Probably want to backup your data regardless

https://www.qnap.com/en/how-to/faq/article/how-to-convert-lxc-containers-to-lxd-containers

[manic bone]

Yeah, I found that article. I failed at step one...for some reason I am unable to SSH into my system 😦

[raven forge]

Does it support docker?

[manic bone]

yes...I have been running a HA docker container in an app called Container Station (QNAP's container runner/manager app)

[raven forge]

What's the benefit of the LXC one running plain core I assume?

[manic bone]

I am totally ignorant on LXC vs LXD other than how to spell them and that this seems to be what broke my HA setup.

[manic bone]

I'll try to fix my SSH problem and see if I can migrate

[manic bone]

Hmmm...i don't expect you all to be able to help on this since it is not HA specific but here is what I get when I try to SSH.
Couldn't agree host key algorithm. Available rsa-sha2-512, rsa-sha2-256, rsa-sha2-512, rsa-sha2-256
I'm using Putty on Windows.

[humble mirage]

Try https://github.com/Eugeny/tabby instead?

[manic bone]

Nevermind...I updated my version of Putty and SSH is happy now

[manic bone]

well, I updated Container Station and, voila, HA is back up and running. whew

[dim raven]

Which option would be better for me to have HAOS on SD and Read/Write on SSD

1. Argon ONE M.2 for Raspberry Pi 4 with western digital pc sn520 nvme
2. Kingston A400 SSD 2.5" with HardDrive Adaptor

No point getting nvme adaptor since most of them require power too

[copper steppe]

Ditch the pi, and get a minipc (especially 2nd hand) for similiar money, with a regular ssd? Way more powerful and flexible.

[hollow loom]

here are the logfiles - any Idea? I absolutely dont know, what to try else...😢 https://codeshare.io/YzBkB3

[hollow loom]

I also opened an issue in github...I need this system running again 😦

[nova nest]

I just installed haos (HassOS) on raspi3b+ and put it inside FLIRC case for better thermals. SD card is sadly A1 so I need to kill all logging, docker and hypervisor. I saw that some people edit /etc/fstab while others opt-in for Recorder or log2mem add-ons, which do you recommend?

[humble mirage]

SSD FTW 😛

Otherwise, limit the recorder

[hollow terrace]

Would it be better to run on a docker container or HAOS in a VM on a Debian install?

[humble mirage]

That's up to you

Me... Docker all the way

[hollow terrace]

fair enough

[nova nest]

I had this hardware for couple of years and I couldn't find the reason to unbox anything lol. Selling was not an option coz of raspi5 release, so I just got the Z-Wave (Z-Stick 7) and ZigBee (ZBDongle-E flashed to 7.4.1) dongles and jumped on this bandwagon.
I don't care about restoring logs and shutdown but I do care about RAM (1GB). Should I keep logs in RAM atleast or just /dev/null ?

I do have Gigabyte BRIX with 8 GBs tho 🙂

[humble mirage]

Powered USB hub for those sticks I hope?

Because you will have power problems at some point otherwise

Just limit recorder to only what you want, and ensure you have backups that are kept off the Pi

That and plan moving to proper hardware

[nova nest]

Correct again but I don't plan to use it or better say I can't. FLIRC case doesn't allow USB HAT to be mounted I think. I will use single usb dongle without ext cable. This is just for me to learn HassOS, I'm more of KNX + Shelly type of guy. I got Shelly Wave 1 and thats why I need HA.

[humble mirage]

You need the extension cable for Zigbee

And it's a really good idea for Z-Wave

Or don't, and wonder why shit don't work

[nova nest]

I will move to HA Green once I see usefulness of HA, I don't need more than that but I hate USB port placement... I have to buy HA dongle so it can fit with Z-Stick... SONOFF is too fat.

[nova nest]

How important it is? I don't use on-board Wi-Fi... so I don't understand why everyone is enforcing that 1.4m cable

[humble scaffold]

@nova nest When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[humble mirage]

Look at the pinned video in #zigbee-archived

[nova nest]

One more thing @humble mirage: Recorder will just handle Docker, hypervisor (Supervisor w/e) will still write siht ton of stuff. Actually docker logs hassio_supervisor has longer output than docker logs homeassistant

Is it possible to tune that too ?

[humble mirage]

Dude... it's not IRC

You can just post questions

Also... I have no idea, don't use HAOS

[raven forge]

You can set the logging driver to none but this is stupid and will break things: https://docs.docker.com/engine/logging/configure/#supported-logging-drivers
Also what hypervisor are you talking about?

[nova nest]

Hypervisor is more common term, a hypervisor is a supervisor’s supervisor and in this case Supervisor is an "OS". Community did "great" job with old and new terminology.

Especially when people do actually use hypervisors to run this on NUC or Server.

[raven forge]

A more common term for what? Hypervisor is known in the context of virtual machines. Supervisor is very different from that.
Supervisor is also not an OS. Throwing terms around like that is very confusing.

[nova nest]

Yes I know, but resemblance is there. Anyone bothered to kill those logs, that is the question 🙂

[raven forge]

See link. HAOS is not friendly to such modifications though.

[nova nest]

Thanks :]
PS IRC FTW

[nova nest]

Thanks, I will. I have to shut it up so raspi3b+ doesn't get borked while I learn this ecosystem.

[raven forge]

# findmnt -T /etc/docker/daemon.json
TARGET
  SOURCE    FSTYPE OPTIONS
/ /dev/sda3 erofs  ro,relatime,user_xattr,acl,cache_strategy=readaround

You can see that it's mounted read only using EROFS.

The default logging driver is journald

# grep log-driver /etc/docker/daemon.json
    "log-driver": "journald",

[nova nest]

Wow, thanks man. This means I can't even clear those logs. I will play with it as soon I'm done watching this veejio about zigbee and 2.4Ghz interference.

[raven forge]

The actual log files are not read only

# findmnt -T /var/log/journal
TARGET           SOURCE           FSTYPE OPTIONS
/var/log/journal /dev/sda8[/logs] ext4   rw,relatime,commit=30

You can vacuum via journalctl but you only have access to that via developer SSH.
It's also not about space usage but about writes. Removing already written logs will not help prolong the SD Card's live.
If you want control like that don't use HAOS. Your time is better spent earning some dosh so you can buy better hardware rather than working around this.
SD Cards can also corrupt for other reasons than through lots of writes. I'm not quite sure why.

[nova nest]

Talking about hardware, this interference video got me worried. For example: HA Yellow has on-board support for ZigBee, is it even working... I have a spare Gigabyte BRIX i5/8GB/NVMe/SSD with USB ports on 2 sides, I just need to get used to HA first.

[raven forge]

It has no USB 3 ports from what I can tell.

If you have a Mini PC I recommend this: #hardware-archived message

[unreal heart]

Hi all

I'm trying to configure mqtt, but I continue to receive the issue below, someone could help me to solve this issue?
New connection from 192.168.178.66:63937 on port 1883. 2024-08-28 20:40:26: Client 04510146093XRJTQ-00274 disconnected, not authorised.

[raven forge]

Have you set up users for your broker?

[unreal heart]

Hi @raven forge I created a user under
Settings --> users --> user ( below the image)

[raven forge]

No I mean a user for your broker, not HA.
Actually, nevermind.

[unreal heart]

isn't under settings --> users?

[raven forge]

What you did is correct. I just had a brain fart.

[unreal heart]

😉

[raven forge]

Can you connect via MQTT Explorer when you use that user's crednetials?
I assume you use the mosquitto addon?

[unreal heart]

about MQTT Explorer, never tryied
about mosquito addon, yes I thought was more easy 😄

there is no MQTT Explorer

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/#search/mqtt

[raven forge]

It's a third party software: https://mqtt-explorer.com/

[unreal heart]

ok I'm trying to install it

[raven forge]

The MQTT integration usually doesnt need manual authentification. You should get a notification that you can click and it magically grabs connection data.
You might have to restart HA for it to show.

[unreal heart]

uhm ok clear

[raven forge]

See here: https://imgur.com/a/3Ng6dDr
I just had to click buttons.

[unreal heart]

one question, I have to install MQTT explorer on my pc not in homeassistant

[raven forge]

I was headed here and removed the MQTT integration: https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/integrations/
Then here and restarted HA: https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/server_controls/
It then showed up in the notifications. The rest is in the imgur link above.

Yes. It's a windows software.

[unreal heart]

ok all clear

I think

name = home assistant

protocol mqtt://

no ok

connected with mqtt explorer

New client connected from 192.168as mqtt-explorer-94d19a3e (p2, c1, k60, u'mqtt')

[raven forge]

The addon docs specifically mention that homeassistant is a reserved name. I'd recommend only using lowercase characters in your user names.

[pallid agate]

hey all im having errors installing home assistant on raspberry pi 4, i reflashed a few times and keep getting the same errors, where it cant connect to git or certain files. If someone could pm me that would be great. Thanks

[unreal heart]

ok I did, I got a meggase from homeassistant

[raven forge]

Don't expect people to PM you. You can share the logs/errors though and someone might be able to tell you more.
Is it connected via ethernet?

[humble scaffold]

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

• https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language, and consider picking a longer expiry)
• http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

[pallid agate]

https://dpaste.org/OSS9y these were the errors i received. its connected vie ethernet, wondering if its firewall or dns

[unreal heart]

so this mean that I have an issue only with "Client 04510146093XRJTQ-00274 disconnected, not authorised", should I create a new user with name "04510146093XRJTQ-00274"?
basically I'm trying to add a configuration on an EPEVER wifi adapter, that inside to this key there is a specific menu "MQTT".

in this menu I can adjust:

MQTT Addr
MQTT Port
MQTT Client ID
MQTT Username
MQTT Password
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[raven forge]

The client id shouldn't matter as far as I know.

[unreal heart]

now I tryied

MQTT Addr = IP homeassistant
MQTT Port = 1883
MQTT Client ID = empty
MQTT Username = mqtt [ user in homeassistant]
MQTT Password = mqtt password of home assistant
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Publish Topic

but with conf above doesn't work

[raven forge]

Hmm. I would have expected some networking errors there but I can't see any.

[raven forge]

Do I get it right that you prefix the user name with mqtt ?
You can also create custom user and password combinations via the logins section.

[pallid agate]

yea its like github and random sites pulling packages are getting denied but i can access it fine when on the web, wondering if its my unifi system.

[unreal heart]

yes mqtt = user created in homeassistant and MQTT Password = password linked to mqqt user

[raven forge]

But why prefix the user? Just input it exactly like in MQTT Explorer. MQTT Explorer can, connect, right?

[unreal heart]

@raven forge with mqqt explorer I wrote:
ip / port / user ( mqtt) / password of mqtt

do you think is enough ip + port?

[raven forge]

Probably not.

[unreal heart]

i'm trying

no still Client 04510146093XRJTQ-00274 disconnected, not authorised

[lapis hound]

I’m not sure what’s going on with my installation. I followed the rpi tutorial on my pi3 b and also manually connected it to WiFi but in the second boot it just gives me the Error installing Home Assistant page

Here’s the logs that it shows on that page.
https://dpaste.org/GGTcR

This is my first time using home assistant so sorry in advance if I ask some silly questions

The only thinks I see that could possibly be issues are the many syntax errors in the log. I don’t know why those would occur though.

[humble mirage]

Could be power problems on the Pi

I'd also recommend wired over wifi

[lapis hound]

It actually just now started working.

I just left it plugged in while I was looking for the problem

[lapis hound]

I’m going to set it up wired eventually I just need to go get a network cable.

[serene crescent]

Hey guys, I am switching from HA core to HAOS installed as a virtual machine. Does HAOS include a package manager so that I may install wireguard?

I might be able to use this: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/home-assistant-community-add-on-wireguard/134662

But tbh, I'd prefer the CLI utilities instead of a GUI one

[grand pivot]

addons are the only way to install things in HAOS

if you're more comfortable with the command line, perhaps you should just use a container install and then install whatever other software you want

seems you're going in the wrong direction based on your questions

[serene crescent]

In this particular case, I would prefer the CLI utilities. That's not necessarily true in all of my use-cases. But that gives me the answer I was looking for.

New problem. I was never presented with the onboarding screen.

[serene crescent]

What I mean by that is that I never got taken to the screen for setting up HA. instead it took me immediately to login, but afaik there's not a user that I can log in with.

[serene crescent]

Wait, honestly it's starting to look more like what I really want is home assistant supervised.

Instead of a fully-blown HaOS.

looking more into it, now realize that I still get a fully blown OS - even more so than what HaOS provides. I only have one machine to install it on, so I still get to use virsh 😄

[tender wren]

Nobody wants Supervised. Either HAOS for ease of use or the Container install for flexibility.

[humble mirage]

Supervised is what you use if you hate your future self and want them to suffer

[glacial maple]

could someone help me debugging the built-in backup function?? It bombs out on trying to back up HA itself - partial for the rest works OK. Used to work fine but something must have corrupted??

looking at previous backups it should be easy to find out what is wrong given its merely a TAR containing a couple of folders/libs. Must be something in one of these libs that is corrupt??

[placid sage]

Who can help me i can't see the website with this port 8123 only i can see this one 4357

[cyan jewel]

Can I install HA on a machoine that runs docker containers? I dont want to run a HA container as I want to be abvle to use HACS...

[fallen lichen]

HACS can run in a container install

https://hacs.xyz/docs/use/download/download/#to-download-hacs-container

[humble mirage]

HACS works with every install method

[cyan jewel]

thanks! Ill take a look. Any limitations in running in a container?

[humble mirage]

No add-ons, which are just another way of installing software

[warped pelican]

gonna throw this out there, i had the issue of ghcr.io giving a 500 error awaiting headers while trying to set up my assistant for the first time. rebooted in safe mode and it installed properly all by itself

[serene crescent]

So what's the solution? The container doesn't have access to the addons. HAOS is far too limited. I mean, I don't even see the point of having the virt-install method because that's supposedly an advanced installation method - so the user would need "advanced" Linux CLI experience, but then you can't even fully realize Linux virtualization technologies with it. With it being a read-only filesystem, I can't do much. I don't feel confident that it'll even let me mount a file share from the host.

[humble mirage]

Why do you need add-ons?

[tender wren]

Add-ons are just managed containers as well. Either control or ease of use - there is no best of all worlds without any downsides

[humble mirage]

If you want add-ons use HAOS
If you want control use Container
If you want to shoot yourself in the foot with a 50 cal... use Supervised

The whole point of HAOS is to be locked down and hard for people to break - it's an appliance

[tender wren]

Supervised is mostly just an illusion of not being locked down

[serene crescent]

I mostly want a centralized repository of what exists.

[humble mirage]

Why?

There's a whole feckin' internet of what exists

[serene crescent]

Yeah, well if you haven't noticed, Google kinda sucks these days.

[tender wren]

You can also Bing it

[serene crescent]

Certifiably not much better - besides, I use duckduckgo which is nearly the same as Bing anyway.

[tender wren]

Usually it is harder to find a well maintained 3rd party add-on than a container on DockerHub

[sinful nest]

I need help. I'm installing HAOS on raspberry 5 but at the end of the installation I see some errors that seem to be caused by "no supervisor internet connection". What can i do? My internet connection works on my PC.

[humble mirage]

I've always found name-of-software Docker finds all I need

[serene crescent]

How do you know what to look for?

[humble mirage]

By starting with a problem to solve

I don't look down a list of software and install them at random

[sinful nest]

Error like this:" 'Updater.fetch_data' blocked from execution, no supervisor internet connection"

[serene crescent]

What is an app store? What is an app repository?

Also, why assume there isn't a problem to solve? There are different themes for HA to my understanding. In the immediate future, I want a Kiosk-type theme for the kiosk I've set up. But also, I just want a better UI than what HA provides by default.

[serene crescent]

How are you connected? Via wifi or wired?

[humble mirage]

Themes aren't add-ons

HACS can answer your theme or integration search problems

[sinful nest]

Wired

[humble mirage]

The forum is also littered with the corpses of alternative UIs

[serene crescent]

What's the output of ip a

[sinful nest]

where i find ip a?

[serene crescent]

Can you access a console?

on the Raspberry Pi?

[humble mirage]

They're on HAOS

[sinful nest]

I can access the command line of home assistant

[serene crescent]

type that into the commandline

[fiery coral]

Hello i am running into a issue where web doesn't come up

Anyone know what is OS path to config and backup files?

[tender wren]

Config: /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant/
Backups: /mnt/data/supervisor/backup/

[fiery coral]

Seems like after last upgrade something broke with hacs

[humble mirage]

HACS won't break HA so that it won't start

[fiery coral]

How do i check what's causing web from starting?

CLI seems to work

ha core logs is showing a warning homeassistant.components.reset.utill REST result could not be parsed as JSON

other than that i dont see any error.

[woeful latch]

I have just booted up my HA instance, and a bunch of my integrations aren't working properly (https://imgur.com/a/QlpcRcT). Does anyone know what the issue could be?

EDIT: I should add, I am using a docker installation!

(I have been sent here from #general-archived)

[humble mirage]

Check the (core) log

[woeful latch]

Is this located in my config directory, or somewhere else? I can't see a logs folder or anything in there.

[humble mirage]

Yes

[woeful latch]

never mind

found it

ah ok it seems to be an issue with the host machine not being connected to wifi

ughhhhhhh

[humble mirage]

Wired > WiFi 😛

[woeful latch]

i didnt mean wifi

i am using ethernet

i dont know why i typed that

i am so confused rn

i can see the wire

it is physically inside the pc

and the pc is like yeah nah

i was trying to set up WOL earlier so i have probably broken something

sigh

oh god this is bad i seem to have broken the internet

[fiery coral]

Anyone know path were local shares from unraid are mounted?

[woeful latch]

hmm

[fiery coral]

/mnt/user/appdata/homeassistant
Unraid Mount Tag:    
homeassistant

[stoic jewel]

Is this the correct place to ask a question about Synology NAS NFS as HA network storage?

[humble mirage]

Yes

[stoic jewel]

Syn NAS has been my backup location for a few years. After a router replacement, it quit. I get this error: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.xxx.xxx:/volume1/ha_backup . I've deleted NAS folder and create new one, but same result. Running 13.1 O/S on odroid Blue

Looking for advice on how to debug. Thanks.

[humble mirage]

Access denied points to a setting on the NAS

Not a valid username/password for that share

Or it's SMB1

[stoic jewel]

The config on Syn NAS didn't change until it was broken and then I created a new NFS shared folder. I didn't think NFS connection required credentials on local network? If not, where is username/passord on HA side for share? It doesn't get setup in the UI Network Storage dialog.

[humble mirage]

Check that there's no IP restictions on the NAS

[stoic jewel]

Okay

[humble mirage]

Looks like NFS doesn't support username settings

[stoic jewel]

I thought that, but wasn't sure. Could the new router be somehow restricting access? I'm checkin for restriction on the NAS now.

NAS NFS permissions set to allow HA host IP.

I'll get Synology support involved. Maybe they can see the attempted mnt and figure out why it is being denied. Thanks.

FYI, not sure what changed where, but Synology had me change 192.168.xxx.xxx to 192.168.xxx.xxx/24 on the NAS side of the configuration. It now works. Thanks for the help.

[broken gull]

When i try to flash the https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/download/13.1/haos_odroid-c4-13.1.img.xz image for my odroid it is always stopping when it reach 98% by the verify. It gives me then the error:
in balenaEtcher: Something went wrong. If it is a compressed image, please check that the archive is not corrupted. The writer process ended unexpectedly.
My notification tab: Oops! Looks like the flash failed. Something went wrong while writing haos_odroid-c4-13.1.img.xz to Mass Storage. Device USB Device (D:/)

[broken gull]

someone how can help me with that

[humble mirage]

You've checked the image is good? Downloaded it again?

[broken gull]

I just downloaded with the link. And than i tried installing it again with Etcher but without any succes

[humble mirage]

I know people have reported problems with Etcher

[broken gull]

do you know an alternative than i can use?

[humble mirage]

An older version maybe? Let me see what I can find

https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/releases/tag/v1.18.11

[broken gull]

i will try that

[broken gull]

that worked now

[nocturne turtle]

Im not sure this is the correct place for this, but I am having frequent dns reconnect issues with HASS os. I have set my dns to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 on my unify gateway, along with setting up ipv6 with their correct ipv6 google dns entries. Some of my integrations (ring) are still trying to use 1.1.1.1 through local cloudfare. Is this normal? How can I override this setting and set my hardware integrations to use google dns?

[versed vapor]

Yes this is normal, haos overrides the dns as that is more often than enough broken on plenty of home installations

You can disable this behavior over the cli

It's the --fallback option in combination with setting one if I recall correctly

[raven forge]

See here: #general-archived message

[nocturne turtle]

Thank you. I thought you were telling me to repost in general. sorry. Is there a way to set it up to always use 8.8.8.8? I see that the command dns options --fallback=false --servers dns://1.1.1.1 just setting it to 8.8.8.8 but do I have to do that everytime I restart hass? Or can I put it in config.yaml?

[raven forge]

Yeah just replace 1.1.1.1 with 8.8.8.8 or whatever you want. This sets it for the DNS plugin and it should persist.
Also check ha dns info and ha network info to see DNS/network information.

[nocturne turtle]

thank you.

[twin glen]

failed to start network manager wait online
time out waiting for device dev/vetio-ports/ort.qemu.gust_agent.0
dependency failed for qemu guest agent

i got this message in the vitualbox

when installing haOS

[raven forge]

Which file did you download?

[twin glen]

what do i do

haso_ova-13.1.vdi.zip

this one

[raven forge]

That should use a different agent. Maybe you can ignore that message?

[raven forge]

Also please write the message exactly as it's displayed. This is garbled.

[twin glen]

it displayed when loading

after that i home assistant screen

[raven forge]

I'm pretty sure it didn't say gust_agent or vetio.

[twin glen]

im new at this

let me check again

how can share screen shot in this chat

[humble scaffold]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

[twin glen]

i don't see any option

https://imgur.com/a/yRteMq2

after the installation done i go to http://homeassistant.local:8123/ but it doesn't show anything

[raven forge]

Try the ip displayed in the VM's display instead. Can you share your VM's Network configuration?

[twin glen]

https://imgur.com/a/c0M4jlG

[raven forge]

WiFi and bridging is not a great choice and not guaranteed to work: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=98133
Use ethernet and try again.

[twin glen]

okk

https://imgur.com/a/cY9Vu5d

not working somehow

[raven forge]

Can you share the VM network settings again? You did reboot the VM, right?

[twin glen]

no i didn't that

let me do that again

yeah i just did it again and same problem

what should i do now

can you plz help

[raven forge]

#installation-archived message

[twin glen]

now i have used vmware but same problem

https://imgur.com/a/K3prBLg

[raven forge]

Please share the VM's network setting in VirtualBox. Using different hypervisors only causes confusion.

[twin glen]

https://imgur.com/a/iqPt05z

[raven forge]

I said VirtualBox.

[twin glen]

this one is network setting in virtualbox

[raven forge]

You need to set the adapter to ethernet.

I wanted to see if you did.

[humble scaffold]

Version

0.24.0

Source

Source Repository

Messages

Data for the /message command

[twin glen]

virtual box's ?

help me plz

[raven forge]

Yes.

[twin glen]

but there is no ethernet option

https://imgur.com/a/e9WvG51

in virtual box