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raven forge
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Sure.

tired salmon
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Oh hello! I see it in the bootmgr list now

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Hold on let's risk it for a biscuit. Let me reser the b****

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🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁

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Nope no joy. Same thing as before. I do however see the haos in the boot options now.

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What could I have done wrong here then?

raven forge
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What hardware is this? Which file did you flash?

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I'm not completely sure.

tired salmon
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Well....it'll be flying soon I've been at this for hours.

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Are you on in about 8 hours time?

raven forge
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Maybe. There's usually always someone here who can help. Or you can ping me and I'll reply when I have time.

tired salmon
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Ok hopefully someone can carry on where we left off

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Good night. I'll talk to you later. Thankyou for your help so far

hot pumice
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how can i burn HA as boot CD/DVD for a x86-64 Pc somehow i can't find a free USB stick.

raven forge
hot pumice
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i dont want burn ubuntu

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i will direct install HA

raven forge
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You want to install HAOS on a DVD? HAOS has no installer. Flashing = installing.

hot pumice
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but etcher is only for USB

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METHOD 2: INSTALLING HAOS DIRECTLY FROM A BOOT MEDIUM

raven forge
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That boot medium is a live OS with which you flash HAOS onto the internal disk. Read the docs fully 😉

hot pumice
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I see it seems to be a bit more complicated than the PI installation

raven forge
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You can basically do the same as with the pi, pull the storage out of the PC, plug it into yours and flash directly to that storage.

hot pumice
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PI 3b with 1 GB

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i think i'll have a look on youtube to see if there are step by step instructions. or i'll leave it on the PI and connect an ssd there. But in my opinion the PI has too little power

tender fulcrum
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hi guys i got a problem rn i installed hassos in x64 machine with sd card and now it gives me error on supervisor

hot pumice
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was a copy and paste error

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sorry use deepL for translate

raven forge
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The pi isn't the fastest and 1GB is very low as well.

humble scaffoldBOT
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@tender fulcrum Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

hot pumice
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I would like to run this on an I3-3220 with 4 GB HA which should be enough or ?

raven forge
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Depending on what addons you run yeah. 2-4GB should be enough.

tender fulcrum
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ok i get the url should i send to you guys ?

humble scaffoldBOT
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@cobalt plume I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
spiral stag
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@raven forge I just noticed now that I'm on a RaspberryPi 2, I tought I was on a 3. I know this is old, I know, I know, but it's just for a quick test. That said, the Raspberry Pi Imager tool doesn't support HA in the Pi 2. Where can I get an image that I can flash? Anyone knows?

empty bloom
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If you want it on a pi2, you have to go supervised, containered, or core.

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I doubt it will run well.

spiral stag
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thanks @empty bloom what should I use to flash the sdcard in this case?

empty bloom
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Investigate the install methods I just described

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This isn’t a plug and play situation

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All 3 methods will be an uphill battle if you’ve never done any DIY projects using docker or a venv with python

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You choose the os. Supervised only runs on Debian. It’ll be the hardest install method

spiral stag
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you're right

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I mean, I don't have any problem with DIY and I can manage to install it but I think it's not the best option. It's just because it's a spare pi that I have and it was just for a test. I will get another solution. I really tought the 2 was still supported so now is confirmed. Thanks!

empty bloom
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A pi2 was never supported for HAOS, only for core and other style installs

spiral stag
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ok

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I really think I had a pi3, but maybe i'm wrong HAHA

empty bloom
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Core is pretty easy to set up if you’re comfortable with cli

spiral stag
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i have a pi4 also but now I use HA in a miniPC

empty bloom
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But you won’t get addons or supervisor

spiral stag
empty bloom
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Yes

spiral stag
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ok I can't 😄

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I can't have addons

empty bloom
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Zha doesn’t require addons

spiral stag
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zigbee2mqtt needs

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but for this purpose I could use Zha

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i will try

empty bloom
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You can run z2m in docker without HA

spiral stag
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maybe Zha is the way to go then

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np

empty bloom
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Right, you can still use it with core

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Just harder to set up

spiral stag
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as I said, is just for a quick test in a friend's house

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so I will try the core solution + zha

empty bloom
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That will be pretty simple setup

hot pumice
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A start job is running for HAOS swap 10 min

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longer wait ? or is it a error

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ok take around 21 min

hot pumice
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ok you have to be patient during installation

grand pivot
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And in life

hot pumice
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nothing works wait now 2 times 25 min

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Preparing Home Assistant
This may take up to 20 minutes

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Starting system autofix at state running
[supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete

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on terminmal systcmd coredump prozess 144 systtcmd journal of user 0 dumped core

tired salmon
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Impact are you on?

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Can someone help where he left off?

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Having boot issues with a new installation of ha

tired salmon
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But now it won't boot

hot pumice
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i've been trying to install it all afternoon and it's more difficult than i thought

tired salmon
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I've never had these issues mind..

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It's SO much easier to not have integrated hard disk. Normally you just use etcher and done.

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Are you trying the Ubuntu method?

hot pumice
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i try wrong way i think

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HA image starts from usb

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but dont install it on ssd

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try to boot install only with HA stick

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:)#

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ilive ubuntu and etcher will be do it i think

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install on live ubuntu etcher download HA and install it on ssd

tired salmon
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Ah that's your problem busdy

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*buddy

hot pumice
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wrong way

tired salmon
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Yup

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I wouldn't use etcher. It crashes a lot of the graphics are being funky

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*if

raven forge
tired salmon
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Hey buddy I've started again from the beginning

raven forge
tired salmon
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I flashed the most recent .omg file

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Eugh, you know what I mean

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The hardware spec is coming

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SNUNMU T8 Mini PC,Windows 10 Pro, Intel Atom Z8350, 2GB RAM+32GB ROM Mini Computer Desktop,Support 4K HD, 2.4G/5G WiFi, Bluetooth 4.2 https://a.co/d/9D1vwOG

raven forge
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There's different img files 😄

hot pumice
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What if I run an identical Home Assistant config on 2 computers in parallel? But the ZIgbee stick is not yet connected to the new PC or should I rather cut the new Lan connection on the new one?

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is the "old" IP also transferred when the config is imported?

raven forge
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Depends. If it was static it might.

hot pumice
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what is the best way to import the old config but not to influence the running HA? because there are also DNS entered for external access.

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disconnect ne lan from PI

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load config on new Hardware change ip and url

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reconnect old

hot pumice
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ok works

tired salmon
raven forge
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Tell me the full name of the file or the URL. But since you followed the guide, and your partition table looked good, this probably isn't the issue.

crude inlet
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No etcher

hot pumice
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ok works on new hardware

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ok with internal disk utility

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it works with etcher error

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tired salmon
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Impact, just so you know.

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I've done this about 5 times. On this hardware. Never had an issue. I just follow the guide

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X86-64-11.5

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Haos_generic-x86-64-11.5.img.xz

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Does that help you at all?

raven forge
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Yeah that looks correct.

tired salmon
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Does ha need an internet connection to boot?

grand pivot
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Yes

raven forge
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Yes and no. Not to boot but during boot as it needs to download a bunch of docker images, update time and other stuff like that.

tired salmon
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Thing is I'm not even getting to the text screen it normally displays

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So it can't be that either

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Could it be a dodgy download?

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When I try to extract it in Windows, it's always getting stuck

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Oh spoke too soon

raven forge
tired salmon
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If I can extract it before that'll give it a fighting chance

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Let me try that

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Can you recommend any other love media before I go through Ubuntu again?

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*live

raven forge
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I like mint but ubuntu's fine. Best to stick asmclose as possible to the official docs.

tired salmon
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Just thinking less graphical use, means I get everything I can out of a shitty processor

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Otherwise I'm annoying defeat and getting one on Amazon

raven forge
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Then you want ones like these: - https://distrowatch.com/search.php?ostype=All&category=Old+Computers&origin=All&basedon=All&notbasedon=None&desktop=All&architecture=All&package=All&rolling=All&isosize=All&netinstall=All&language=All&defaultinit=All&status=Active#simple

tired salmon
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What is that!!??

raven forge
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A list of distros for slow or resource contrained devices. Lubuntu would be an example that is based on ubuntu.

tired salmon
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Huh. Good shout

raven forge
tired salmon
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I will

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Ok I'll try this..... Again

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Do I need to format the disk before restoring the image?

tired salmon
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Impact are you there? How do I tell which partition to boot into? Blk0 doesn't seem to exist

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Oh wait....I remember it was that long command starting with -o+

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I notice you don't boot into any particular partition. Is this correct?

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@raven forge

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IT WORKED!!!! F*** YEAH!!!! @raven forge I owe you a beer

stiff rune
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Hello, is it possible to install Home Assistant on Portainer (docker) but with the addon system? I know the addons are containmentaries, but they are directly related to homeassistant x)

grand pivot
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No

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Just install whatever you want via containers

stiff rune
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mmh ok thanks, but for example for NodeRed it's more complicated ?

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Otherwise I'll buy a rasberry 🥲

raven forge
tired salmon
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Humble. But yeah, I pretty much understand efibootmgr now

modern basalt
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Alright, so it's time I moved off a Pi 4 to something more substantial. I picked up a Optiplex 7060 which should be more than enough. Hoping to move a few things off my NAS to consolidate all my automation services on the HA box. Will be moving MQTT and also Frigate + Google Coral over.

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So my questions are: What's the most robust/easiest to manage hypervisor around these days that can do both VMs and docker? Is it still Proxmox? And aside from addons - what will I be missing if I convert to a Docker install method? I'm pretty comfortable with Docker now, and all the addons I currently use could be deployed via Docker too.

raven forge
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I recommend proxmox VE as virtualization OS and a debian VM as a docker host. Aside from addons which are just docker containers I don't see what you'd miss.

modern basalt
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Why a VM as the Docker host? Doesn't Proxmox have the ability to deploy docker containers direct from the hypervisor? Or is that Unraid?

raven forge
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It does not.

brittle sail
modern basalt
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Cool, good to know. While I'm pretty confident with docker itself, I've only really used it on my NAS which is pretty set-and-forget in terms of Linux. Don't know how I'd go with having to manually maintain a Linux OS as well as docker.

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How's Unraid in terms of respect/support for a simpler "push the deploy button" style?

raven forge
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You can technically run docker directly on PVE but it messes with the firewall and is just not recommended.

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If you have to you can use portainer as GUI. I have it installed in case I want a GUI to check stuff that is inconient in the CLI but I can't remember the last time I actually used it. I just use docker compose.

modern basalt
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I would likely just use portainer to check things. Confident enough in writing/stealing compose files myself.

brittle sail
modern basalt
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It's less the docker that I'm worried about, more the debian-behind-the-docker. As I said, have had no experience maintaining a linux server.

brittle sail
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you mean with proxmox?

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depends on your setup for how much you need to manage but there are updater scripts if you just want to leave things the way they are

modern basalt
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Awesome. Well I'll give Proxmox a go and play around with a bunch of stuff to see how I go. No harm in trying. If it all gets too much, I can just run HA in dedicated VM easily enough.

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Thanks for the advice both of you!

brittle sail
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you can do all the learning you want with tutorials or just reading the docs but that's a great way to get started

raven forge
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Take plenty of backups and snapshots, break stuff, restore, do it properly. PVE makes this quite easy.

modern basalt
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Yeah, I'm already pretty good at the backup stuff. Rolling daily differential backups for HA and my docker containers that are also pushed to my Google Drive.

lunar current
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Will HA work on RPi 5? Or how far away?

marsh hatch
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Hi I just joined the discord to ask: What resources are there for first installations on Raspberry Pi 4, when the HA does not show up on the network? Some details:

  • For flashing, I used Imager provided by RPi foundation, chose Home Assistant image (as in the installation tutorial).
  • I'm running openWRT on my router with DHCP. I do not see any new devices when booting up the Pi.
  • I'm running Pi-Hole, but this has been working for some time now. Pi-Hole does not run DHCP.
  • I'm connecting the Raspberry Pi that runs HA to a smart hub -- this works for another RPi device (running mainsail/klipper for a 3d printer)

Any help debugging would be appreciated

It was a cable 🤦‍♂️

placid sage
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hola buenos dias, estoy intentando configurar home assisteant en un pc con sistema operativo windows 11. sigo todos los pasos de instalacion de la pagina, pero al conectar en http://homeassistant:8123/ o htt:// x.x.x.x:8123 no conecta la pagina web, sale sin coneccion ¿ a que es devido esto? tambien me sale una advertencia que no hay iso montada... quiero probar la domotica mia por aqui sin una baberry pi para probar, si alguien es tan amable de ayudarme a configurar que es lo que me falla lo agradecere de ante mano. gracias

humble mirage
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English please @placid sage

placid sage
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no hablo ingles pero puedo trasducir

humble mirage
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en inglés por favor

placid sage
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Hello, good morning, I am trying to configure home assisteant on a PC with Windows 11 operating system. I follow all the installation steps on the page, but when connecting to http://homeassistant:8123/ or htt:// x.x.x.x:8123 it does not connect The website appears without connection, what is this due to? I also get a warning that there is no iso installed... I want to try my home automation here without a baberry pi to test, if someone is so kind as to help me configure what is wrong, I would appreciate it in advance. thank you

humble mirage
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Did you use a virtual machine for installing on Windows?

placid sage
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but when starting oracle VM virtualbox it asks me to open the virtual iso file and I don't know where it is or create it

humble mirage
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There's no iso for that method

placid sage
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Yes, I use a virtualbox virtual machine

humble mirage
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That link has the instructions for you

placid sage
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I follow all those steps and I don't connect to the website to control the system and it keeps asking me to put the ISO DVD, can I send you a screenshot?

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How can I send a screenshot so I can see the configuration, what if something goes wrong?

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

humble mirage
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Nothing in those instructions talk about iso files

placid sage
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Thank you for your attention and patience with me and sorry if I don't understand something.

humble mirage
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That video doesn't show using the optical drive... that's your mistake

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You didn't download an installer, you downloaded a hard disk image

placid sage
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Do you think it is advisable to uninstall everything and start again from scratch with the steps followed from your provided link?

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How do I download a hard drive image?

humble mirage
placid sage
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So I don't have to download anything, just the virtualbox application, nothing else? and follow those steps?

humble mirage
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No, the link there is for the disk image download

placid sage
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Which one do I have to download sir? VirtualBox,VMware Workstation,Hyper-V

humble mirage
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Well... what VM platform are you using?

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VirtualBox? VMWare? Hyper-V?

placid sage
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virtualboxAs that video tutorial said, which one do you think is better?

humble mirage
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None are better or worse

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Use what you have, and download the image for that one, not one of the other platforms

placid sage
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Create a new virtual machine.
Select Linux type and Linux version 2.6/3.x/4.x (64-bit).
Under Hardware, select the amount of memory and the amount of CPU. Then, select Enable EFI.
Make sure EFI is enabled. If EFI is not enabled, HAOS will not boot.
Under Hard Disk, select Use an existing virtual hard disk file and select the unzipped VDI file above.
Then go to Network > Adapter 1. Choose Bridged Adapter and choose your network adapter.

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These are the steps to follow, nothing more?

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without downloading haos_ova-11.5.vdi

humble mirage
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Well, you need to download the file

placid sage
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Where can I find the corresponding file?

humble mirage
placid sage
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ok

humble mirage
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That doc page, down to Onboarding, has what you need

placid sage
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I will try again from scratch, let me see if it will let me enter the website homeassistant.local:8123, which would not let me enter.

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Thank you for your patience and thank you for the help, greetings from Seville, Spain

frozen yarrow
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I'm having difficulty getting a secure connection setup for my new HA.

I setup my HA on Raspberry Pi 4 with the img
It boots and behaves correctly.

I have added some devices and am able to access via web and the app on my local network.

I setup dynamic dns through Dnyu and add that add-on as well. (I don't think it is relevant because I'm having issues on the local network)

I added Let's Encrypt, started to create the certificates. Now I"m trying to modify configuration.yaml to setup https, but I keep getting an error when I try to restart.

<code>Failed to call service homeassistant/reload_all. Cannot quick reload all YAML configurations because the configuration is not valid: Invalid config for 'http' at configuration.yaml, line 15: not a file for dictionary value 'http->ssl_certificate', got '/ssl/fullchain.pem' Invalid config for 'http' at configuration.yaml, line 16: not a file for dictionary value 'http->ssl_key', got '/ssl/privkey.pem'</code>

I added the File Editor and Terminal. Through the File Editor I don't see the ssl folder and can't get to the root to verify the ssl files existances. I added on Terminal, but it fails to start.

Recommendation on how to troubleshoot?

humble mirage
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Not a file says that it can't find the file at that path

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How are you generating those certs?

frozen yarrow
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then Let's Encrypt is stopped

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i see the log now

humble mirage
frozen yarrow
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ok, I'll go to that channel - thank you

bronze zinc
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hello, first time here. I need help with mqtt container. I would like to say iam a noob first.

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i have installed mqtt container and z2m container all work fine cause they are on local host. But iam having issues with tasmota esp that i bought to see energy consumption of my house.

humble mirage
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Are you using add-ons, or native Docker?

bronze zinc
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the thing is that i cannot connect the device to my mqtt on local network

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iam using portainer

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native docker i believe

humble mirage
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Make sure you don't have a firewall running

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Ubuntu often does annoying things

bronze zinc
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i dont have it installed on my nuc (yeah iam a noob)

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i read somewhere that after mqtt 2.0 conections are only allowed on local host for security reasons

humble mirage
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What OS, and is Mosquitto running in Docker?

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(if it's not, why not 😛 )

bronze zinc
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ubuntu 20, yes it is on portainer

raven forge
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It's possible you didn't "forward" the ports or didn't set up authentication. You can check the mosquitto logs. They might contain a mention of Starting in local only mode.

humble mirage
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Then check your container definition, it needs to expose (at least) 1883

raven forge
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But you said you're not using ubuntu?

bronze zinc
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i have setup user and pass

humble mirage
bronze zinc
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tcp 0  0 0.0.0.0:1883  0.0.0.0:* LISTEN      1/mosquitto```
raven forge
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Looks good. Check ufw status then and the logs.

bronze zinc
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ok, just a few minutes ill have to google a bit

raven forge
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docker logs <TAB> and select your moquitto container's name.

bronze zinc
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1708726017: Config loaded from /mosquitto/config/mosquitto.conf.
1708726017: Opening ipv4 listen socket on port 1883.
1708726017: Opening ipv6 listen socket on port 1883.
1708726017: mosquitto version 2.0.18 running
1708727818: Saving in-memory database to /mosquitto/data//mosquitto.db.
1708729619: Saving in-memory database to /mosquitto/data//mosquitto.db.
1708731419: Saving in-memory database to /mosquitto/data//mosquitto.db.
1708733221: Saving in-memory database to /mosquitto/data//mosquitto.db.
1708735022: Saving in-memory database to /mosquitto/data//mosquitto.db.
1708736823: Saving in-memory database to /mosquitto/data//mosquitto.db.
1708738463: New connection from 172.19.0.1:39861 on port 1883.
1708738463: New client connected from 172.19.0.1:39861 as 4XgersBG35wONOEjrrVxK4 (p2, c1, k60).
1708738463: No will message specified.
1708738463: Sending CONNACK to 4XgersBG35wONOEjrrVxK4 (0, 0)
1708738463: Received DISCONNECT from 4XgersBG35wONOEjrrVxK4```
raven forge
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What did ufw status say?

bronze zinc
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inactive

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Status: inactive

raven forge
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Can you connect to your ip from ip a with MQTT Explorer? I suppose you could also try with mosquitto_pub.

bronze zinc
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i tried with mqtt explorer i inserted my nuc ip and i cant connect

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i cannot install mosquitto_pub for other reasons

raven forge
bronze zinc
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on portainer console

raven forge
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Please run it on the main OS. Same as ufw status.

hybrid hatch
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hey for some reason the official addon repo does not work for me. working with a rpi 3 and haos

raven forge
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does not work
How?

hybrid hatch
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a different repo shows up 3 addons and they are the only ones listed

raven forge
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Can you share a picture?

humble scaffoldBOT
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@hybrid hatch Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

hybrid hatch
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tried adding the official community (lol) repo manually and it says it already exists

bronze zinc
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the netstat command, the ufw is still inactive

tepid slate
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Hello to all. to install Home assistant on a Rpi4 on a ssd in the Argon2 case, should I format it in exFAT or NTFS? 🙂

raven forge
hybrid hatch
bronze zinc
raven forge
raven forge
hybrid hatch
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yeah man ctrl+k has its own dedicated neurons right now for me

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also i have disabled the search in the url bar, anyways

bronze zinc
tepid slate
hybrid hatch
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yeah

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if you run windows that is

bronze zinc
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i dont know if this is allowed

raven forge
tepid slate
# hybrid hatch yeah

AH.. so if I cannot see anything when I plug my previous ssd (1 year old) on my laptop... means that it is really dead?

hybrid hatch
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wat? if you are on windows 10 press windows+x and go to disk management to see if it is there

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@raven forge do you remember any specifics ? cant really find it

tepid slate
raven forge
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Not really. I believe it was about a duplicate default addons repo that didn't show up and couldn't be added because it already exists.
Maybe there's something in the supervisor or host logs hitting towards a cause for this. I wish I could tell you something more useful.

hybrid hatch
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also how do i even enable ssh ?

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no worries

raven forge
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There's two kinds of SSH. The "supported" one via one of the SSH addons or the unsupported developer SSH access. The tools/environment in the addons are/is much better and unless you want to or have to spelunk around in the OS you should stick to the addons.

hybrid hatch
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ill look into the dev ones, thanks

raven forge
bronze zinc
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can i send it to you via pm?

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i dont know how to redact stuff

raven forge
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No. If you PM it to me others can't join in any more.

bronze zinc
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how do i redact?

raven forge
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Hard to say what's private to you.

bronze zinc
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i could not send log as file

raven forge
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You can also see ports in docker ps, btw.

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That looks a bit strange

"Ports": {
        "1883/tcp": null
      },
bronze zinc
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CONTAINER ID   IMAGE COMMAND CREATED STATUS  PORTS   NAMES
1b93b09e2cfb   eclipse-mosquitto:latest "/dockerentrypoint.…" 22 hours ago   Up 22 hours           1883/tcp    ```
bronze zinc
grand pivot
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I think if you just provide one argument it passes it straight through?

raven forge
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In my case it looks like this

... "/docker-entrypoint.…"  ...  0.0.0.0:1883->1883/tcp, :::1883->1883/tcp, ... mosquitto

"PortBindings": {
  "1883/tcp": [
    {
      "HostIp": "",
      "HostPort": "1883"
    }
  ],
...

It's possible some of it is just implicit.

bright lance
#

Does installing home assistant and an old laptop erase the UEFI partition ?

raven forge
#

The whole partition table should be rewritten during flashing.

bronze zinc
tepid slate
bright lance
bright lance
#

FYI for anyone here: don't install directly home assistant on a pc if you may have electrical failure... Us a VM like promox

raven forge
#

electrical failure
🤨
I wholeheartedly recommend VMs too.

earnest marten
#

Add-ons not available

astral osprey
#

I have zha setup and running for months, no problem but I wanted z2m for aqara cube and moes knob (more functional). ZHA is sky connect (yes, USB extension), Z2M is sonof dongle P (no usb extension), raspberry pi 4 external nvme.
Anyway setup Z2M all was well, aqara cube much better than ZHA. Wake up and errors all over home assistant settings/devices error, I had to hard reset. I disabled Z2M and all good today. So is it the sonoff with no USB extension or something else?

raven forge
#

One thing at a time. What errors?

astral osprey
raven forge
#

We can only guess without them.

astral osprey
raven forge
#

On the same coordinator? Perhaps.

astral osprey
raven forge
#

There's a few tips and a channel chart in the pinned messages of #zigbee-archived. You generally want to use a extension cable as USB 3 is a source of interference as well. I suggest you try to trigger your issue and provide a picture of what you saw and the logs.

astral osprey
rose quest
#

I just bought an additional USB Dongle-P to use as a router. but the power connection to the router was my hass system overloaded and it stopped working immediately.
Can someone answer me?

#

I have about 56 zigbee devices for Coordinator.
I bought more to enhance the zigbee signal but encountered the same problem. Currently my Hass is broken and cannot be accessed
When I turn off the power to the Router and unplug the HASS power supply again to restart the HASS

humble mirage
#

You wanted the #zigbee-archived channel for help with Zigbee, after you et your install working that is

#

You need to provide more details with the "cannot be accessed" problem though, like logs

hot pumice
#

why is the battery status wrong from one minute to the next from 100 % to 24 % from 3.0 volt to 2.8 how can i fix this manually i have already tried to overwrite the states but it is always reset again

humble mirage
#

Battery of what hardware?

hot pumice
#

sonoff snzb-04

#

it is only one of the three sensors that are suddenly not correct

humble mirage
#

But ... that's just life with coin cell batteries

hot pumice
#

but not from one to next minute

raven forge
humble mirage
hot pumice
#

a bit disappointed i thought with new hardware HA runs better but still laggy

raven forge
#

Which hardware? What do you mean with laggy?

hot pumice
#

I3 3220 4 GB

#

Is the hardware too weak?

#

512 GB SSD

#

too weak ? or not

raven forge
#

No.

hot pumice
#

the performance seems to me like pi3

raven forge
#

You can install the glances addon and check the resource usage if you think it's stressed.

hot pumice
#

I think something is wrong - you can make HA crash reproducibly like the PI

raven forge
#

How?

carmine girder
#

hey guys! just installed home assistant container, but i want to restore from backup. sadly, it seems i have no addons so icannot restore from google drive addon

humble mirage
#

Correct, but you can manually

carmine girder
#

yeah thats what im looking for

humble mirage
#

Just unzip the backup and find homeassistant.tar.gz

carmine girder
#

im looking for the files in my google drive, cant really find it

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found it

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Full Backup 2024-02-27 04:00:00.tar

#

so how do i upload the tar.gz to home assistant?

robust escarp
#

Hi guys. With HAOS-installation, can anyone guide me to the right way to run a 'pip list' in the "right" container to see what python libraries and versions are actually installed? I know about SSH and protection mode disabled, but don't seem to get the docker stuff right.

carmine girder
raven forge
carmine girder
raven forge
#

I believe the path is just /backups or /backup. Let me get back to you.

carmine girder
#

yeah you're correct

#

but still, the backups the home assistant itself makess is a .tar, this is a .tar.gz

humble mirage
#

Also, without add-ons you don't get a UI to restore backups...

#

tar.gz is just a gz compressed tar

carmine girder
#

😛

humble mirage
#

Then you don't have Container

carmine girder
#

i do though

#

one sec

# 
services:
  homeassistant:
    container_name: homeassistant
    image: "ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable"
    volumes:
      - /docker/homeassistant2024/:/config
      - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
      - /run/dbus:/run/dbus:ro
    restart: unless-stopped
    privileged: true
    ports:
      - 80
      - 443
      - 8123:8123
humble mirage
#

You can only create backups in the UI, not restore them

carmine girder
#

correct

#

i misread what you said

#

so how do i restore my backup?

robust escarp
humble mirage
#

Then un-tar the file to your target location

carmine girder
#

ohh so just overwrite the files

humble mirage
#

And consider a better backup and restore solution

#

rclone, rsnapshot, urbackup, kopia, etc

carmine girder
#

i always used the addon :/

cerulean jacinth
#

I have tried to upgrade OS from 10.5 to 12.0. It looks like it is installing, but after restart it is still on 1o.5. The installation probably detects and eror and it went back to 10.5. Where can I find the error log of the installation?

stoic jewel
#

TIA for thoughts on recovery of my HA on odroid N2+ (HA Blue Hardkernel). I plugged in an SDD and moved the data over to it. It took a while, but it completed. Then I moved my backup device to my Synology server and did a full backup. The SDD has now crashed. I get multiple "Invalid checksum errors for backup superblock" on boot. (I'm on the console w/ keybd and monitor plugged into odroid). Eventually, the odroid times out waiting on Home Assistant CLI and jumps to emergency console. I presume there is no recovery from this point and I need to reinstall HA on the odroid? Ugh...I'm been working with RPI too long. There's no SD on odroid. Emmc. Sorry.

harsh pawn
#

Installing last version 2024.2.4 Home Assistant Core won’t fly on the rpi 3B. 😡

humble mirage
#

HAOS? Container? Core?

crude inlet
#

There's probably only a few people running on an rpi 3 so we won't hear much about this

humble mirage
#

Stats say about 20K

harsh pawn
crude inlet
#

oh man I got you both with that one

empty bloom
#

I just went through the install on a spare pi3, worked fine

final socket
weary scaffold
#

This info is definitely listed somewhere but i cannot find it for the life of me, rpi 4 with 2gb vs 4gb, is the difference noticeable, is going with the 4gb a safer bet

grand pivot
#

Generally, yes. Depends on the addons that you plan to use

near sierra
#

Home Assistant Installation Help

raven forge
solid notch
weary scaffold
solid notch
# weary scaffold No, it just seemed to be the most cost effective option in the long run that I f...

Ditch Rpi and SBC. Yes, they are cheap, but they come with a full bag of… quirks, if I dare to say so. Grab something like thin client (all those Dell 3040 and Optiplexes) — they are dirt cheap due to mass production for Big Enterprises™, often fanless, and — it's important! — they are plain dumb x86_64. Without quirks.

P.S. Your mileage may vary, if you want some fancy/heavy workloads, then consider more powerful SFF, but with used units you can ensure 3x hardware redundancy for a price of single RPi 4.

raven forge
weary scaffold
#

Dell OptiPlex 3040 SFF * CORE i3-6100 @ 3.70GHz / 4GB / 500GB
Something like this

humble mirage
#

Yes

solid notch
#

There are 3040 models that can be powered from 5V@1A USB-A, pretty suitable for router/access point with powerful enough USB port.

#

||Sometimes they are not even on sale by the piece, but by the weight.||

weary scaffold
#

Holy huge link, sorry!

solid notch
grand pivot
#

Coulda stopped at the ?

weary scaffold
#

For $30 it cheaper than a rpi too lol

raven forge
#

8G is a bit too small.

solid notch
weary scaffold
raven forge
#

Personally I wouldn't get something with less than 4G RAM and 64G storage. The minimum is half that.

crude inlet
#

Compiling for ESPHome devices is slow and not fun with less than 4GB

weary scaffold
crude inlet
#

So if you have an interest in making your own devices, go for 4GB (RAM) or more

raven forge
weary scaffold
#

Hmm, the 3040 thins all only have 2gb of ram

solid notch
weary scaffold
#

Ok thats what i thought lol

solid notch
weary scaffold
#

3030 not strong enough?

solid notch
#

Intel Celeron dual core processor.

Its fine.

solid notch
raven forge
weary scaffold
#

If u cant tell, im realizing i have no idea what im looking at

solid notch
#

Don't worry, you're on the right track. Sooner or later, you will find yourself choosing a box based on design rather than hardware specs.

weary scaffold
#

So what design am i looking for

raven forge
weary scaffold
#

Hmm ok

humble mirage
#

A Pi4 scores about 900, so you want higher than that

#

Personally if it's under 2K skip it

weary scaffold
#

Ok, 5th trys the charm

raven forge
#

That's a bit bigger and likely uses a tiny bit more power but purely from a spec standpoint that is good.

weary scaffold
#

Yeah thats the other tradeoff i was wondering, cause thats the big advantage of a rpi right, low power consumption?

raven forge
#

I'd guess this one uses something from 9-20W at idle but best to look that up.

weary scaffold
#

And idc that theres no OS, cause were running the home assistant OS anyway

raven forge
#

Indeed. I just think 32G might be a bit too small in the future or for certain "workloads".

weary scaffold
raven forge
#

Yep.

weary scaffold
#

Tysm everyone!

tawdry mica
#

I installed HAOS on my old mac mini via boot from Ubuntu on stick but now when I boot the mac mini it's just a flashing folder-icon with a question mark in it😢

humble mirage
#

What Mac and what HAOS image?

tawdry mica
#

Mac mini 2013 or 14 I think. Latest HAOS that you get to if you follow the install guide for generic x-86 via Ubuntu on USB

scenic epoch
#

If that doesn't work, I am afraid you'd need to use a bootloader like refind-efi if I am right, but maybe someone else could chip in about that.

tawdry mica
#

*bed

tawdry mica
#

Did not work 🤔
Get the following "EFI variables are not supported on this system"
It's a mac mini 2014 by the way

scenic epoch
#

is it bless for mac?

#

I don't remember, for my Mac i used refind back in the day to boot me in Linux

tawdry mica
#

No idea

scenic epoch
tender ether
#

I'm finally able to ota update my esphome bluetooth proxy

eager pilot
#

Hello,

Hoping to find anybody who could help me with setting up the application I’m attempting to use with Homebridge Assistant on a Debian-based virtual machine, to use as a smart home hub.

I believe that I’ve got everything setup correctly, but am having trouble logging into the Home Assistant Cloud to begin setting up my integrations. I’m receiving a message that states, “ ! Unable to reach the Home Assistant cloud”.

crude inlet
#

What integrations do you mean to set up using home assistant cloud? There are only alexa and Google integrations from the cloud service. Your message is likely due to ipv6 misconfiguration.

lunar current
#

Can you help me choose the method I use to open my HA instance to the internet? I have a domain, it is pointing to cloudflare with DNS, so I guess I can manage it fully there? But it's not bought within cloudflare. I just have it redirect to another site for now. I don't wanna use VPN. Is a good solution to use the nginx method then? Installing the addon, configuring it and opening port 443 and 80. And make sure to use 2fa and strong passwords in HA. Is this a good guide then? https://support.konnected.io/set-up-home-assistant-with-secure-remote-access-using-duckdns-and-nginx-proxy
Anything else I should think about? Or any other good guide with pictures for someone who do this kind of stuff every 3 year with some new project? 🙂

humble mirage
#

Cloudflare tunnels is another popular option

lunar current
#

Any good guides on either of them?

#

Starting of there is both nginx proxy manager and NGINX home assistant SSL proxy as addons

humble mirage
#

Dozens probably, though there's absolutely nothing special about HA here

#

Hit up your favourite search engine and you should find ones that work for you

lunar current
#

I kinda do, but I dont like any of them

toxic tangle
sick scroll
#

Hi. I would like to know if it's better to use HA OS on a raspberry Pi 4 or a Docker setup. Rpi will only run HA , maybe i will try to make it accessible from outside the network (check if ssh is working / port forwarding ?) thanks guys

humble mirage
#

Better is personal

#

if you're already a fan of Docker go Docker, otherwise go HAOS

sick scroll
#

I will try HAOS for this setup ok thanks !

grave quail
#

Hu Guys, i have HAOS installed with MQTT addon and ZIGBEE2MQTT addon, As zigbee gateway i have an SLZB-06 over ethernet configured in zigbee2mqtt. However, whatever i try i get an " 502: Bad Gateway" each time i start zigbee2mqtt. For two days in a row i am unable to get this working, log files are not stating clear signs why, fresh install of HAOS on PROXMOX as VM. Can anyone give me any hints?

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@latent igloo I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
raven forge
#

I/O error isn't that specific. Can you check df -h?

latent igloo
raven forge
#

Just directly in your terminal.

crude furnace
#

Hello guys, i buy intel nuc 12 pro and iiyama prolite t2455msc.. how to make it work with HA supervised and direct use of hdmi from nuc? i start to think it isnt possible :/

raven forge
#

make it work
Do what exactly?

crude furnace
#

when i instal HA on proxmox, it not work to HDMI (or I not know how to make it. When I instal HA on debian 12, it make some kind of error when instaling supervised version....im kind of amateur, so i want some easy way :D....and touchscreen work only with HDMI and USB in windows and ubuntu.

#

so i was thinking about instaling it on kvm in ubuntu, but it again show some error

#

my only sucess was instaling ha direct on nuc (little overkill with this nuc), and use chromecast for monitor....but chromecast not have usb so touchscreen not work :/

solid notch
raven forge
crude furnace
#

im experienced with ha (i had it on my synology nas, but want try it with 24" monitor nand nuc)...i had clear instal of debian, then ubuntu, and follow steps in guide, and in both os it show some missing packages

solid notch
crude furnace
#

and do you think you can post me any guide from internet with steps with your idea? you know....for karma :))

raven forge
solid notch
brittle sail
#

if you want to use docker instead inside proxmox, that will be fine too

exotic shuttle
#

Hello, something went awry with my 11.5 install and the Zigbee sensor paired, but didn't offer to rename to a friendly name. How can I rename 0xa4c1385ecf65906f Humidity to something else?

humble mirage
#

Hello, something went awry with my 11.5

tawdry mica
# scenic epoch <@418364588929581057> https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ this is what I used on m...

Not even refind finds the boot disc. After installing refind the efibootmgr command works in Linux terminal but it still won't boot... Must be something wrong with how I mount the HAOS ISO maybe? Since I only had 4gb USB I used Lubuntu which did not have the "disks" app but instead an app called "KDE Partition Manager" with which I did a "restore" but looking now at the disk it says it is unformated... I must miss something in this app that happens automatically in "disks" app

thorny glen
#

How to use Alexa compatible door bell in assistant

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@thorny glen Please do not cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

earnest marten
#

Network Issues

tawdry mica
placid sage
#

Waiting for Supervisior to startup...
System information
Error returned from Supervisior: System is not ready with state: setup

#

why do I keep getting this error?

raven forge
#

Can you check ha supervisor logs?

placid sage
raven forge
#

Try ha supervisor logs

placid sage
#

here is the logs

#

I see no problem

raven forge
#

It says it completed. Is there an actual problem right now?

placid sage
#

Preparing Home Assistant
This may take up to 20 minutes

#

it won't switch to the username section

placid sage
#

after a while it says [supervisor.docker.manager] Stopping homeassistant application and shuts down

raven forge
#

I don't see that in the log.

placid sage
#

it said now

#

it was before it

raven forge
#

Can you share the log following up to that?

placid sage
raven forge
#

You can connect a keyboard and monitor to it and run the command I gave you.

placid sage
#

I got the error. Error returned from Supervisior: System is not ready with state:setup

raven forge
#

Where did you read about the banner command?

placid sage
#

here

#

right now I can't access the ui, but when I type banner I can access it, but this time the installation doesn't complete.

raven forge
#

Try typing ha supervisor logs and share them.

placid sage
raven forge
placid sage
raven forge
#

Ah. Just a take a picture with your phone. I can't think of a simpler way at this state of installation.

placid sage
#

I think thats enough

raven forge
#

Home Assistant has crashed!
ha core logs might give some hints why.

placid sage
#

INFO: task dockerd:2284 blocked for more than 120 seconds

#

Tainted: G C 6.1.73-haos-raspi #1

#

"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message

#

thats all

#

it's very strangely extremely slow.

#

The homebridge installation was extremely simple and easy. But I guess device support is not as much as home assistant.

brittle sail
#

you're comparing a tire to an entire vehicle

placid sage
#

Haha, yea you're right

brittle sail
#

./tenor i know

placid sage
#

by the way thank you for trying to help. i hope i can solve the problem

brittle sail
#

impact gets all the credit

#

i just came into slap you around a little bit with a large trout

raven forge
#

Hmm. I'm not really sure how to fix this as I don't know what causes it. Unless someone has a better idea I'd try a ha core rebuild, ha supervisor repair and lastly a reboot. If none of this works I'd attempt a re-flash. Assuming this is a fresh install.

placid sage
#

core rebuild
Processing... Done.

Error : Unknown error, see supervisor

raven forge
#

Seems like the whole docker engine has some kind of issue which is kind of bad considering how HA works: <#general-archived message>
You can also check ha host logs which might have some more information about the OS/kernel side of things. It's not really expected that people have to go there though.

placid sage
#

I have done supervisor repair at the moment, I think I tried it before in the processing stage and it was time out. I will look at the host logs after it is finished.

brittle sail
placid sage
raven forge
placid sage
#

supervisor repair seemed to take forever. I restarted the Pi, now I will try the host logs.

raven forge
#

If I remember correctly it also does repair on boot. At least some of the time.

brittle sail
placid sage
#

Thank you both for trying to help. I hope we can solve the problem. Because I bought Apple TV - Raspberry Pi - New router (for Mesh System) just for this. I don't want it to go to waste.

brittle sail
#

nvidia shield, mini pc (same price as pi and faster), and not-mesh-cuz-i-dont-hate-you

placid sage
#

it's getting annoying. it's extremely slow and I keep restarting it.

brittle sail
placid sage
#

Host logs

raven forge
#

Why so low resolution? Can't zoom in :<

placid sage
placid sage
humble scaffoldBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

placid sage
#

imgur doesn't load strangely.

raven forge
#

I'm curios why banner would do anything. It's just supposed to show the same information as what you see initially.

placid sage
#

sorry for uploading to there but don't have another chance

#

imgur didn't uplaod.

crude inlet
#

enter su logs at that prompt

placid sage
raven forge
placid sage
crude inlet
#

It ends there or does it continue to go through this loop of trying to download the image?

raven forge
#

Unfortunately the supervisor logs has no timestamps so I can't properly correlate but I don't see anything useful other than Home Assistant has crashed!.

placid sage
placid sage
crude inlet
#

if it ends there as it does in your link, I would wait

raven forge
placid sage
#

finally worked

crude inlet
#

finally worked as in, reaching the landing page?

#

sorry for jumping in middle of whatnot

placid sage
#

I'm starting from the beginning.

#

I'll flash the img again. I don't think there's any problem here?

crude inlet
#

it's an SD card or something else?

placid sage
#

yea SD card

crude inlet
#

ok, go for it

placid sage
#

is being flashed right now. I will explain step by step because I am not sure if I am making a mistake somewhere.

brittle sail
#

could we get it in mspaint drawings instead

placid sage
#

What do you mean? 😄

brittle sail
#

i'm just joking.. like crayon art

placid sage
#

Now the flash is complete. I put the sd card back into the pi and start it.

#

strangely I can't upload to imgur from my phone

brittle sail
#

i'm guessing you're encountering a bug that you will be able to help fix by providing all this info

#

but also you are using the first non-beta build to support pi5 so even tho it's technically supported i'm still gonna say you're just causing yourself pain

placid sage
#

I'm about to lose my mind

crude inlet
#

what's happening now

brittle sail
#

and buy a 3d printer to control with your pi5 😛

placid sage
placid sage
brittle sail
#

what

placid sage
#

Error returned from Supervisor: System is not ready with state: setup

#

Here we go again

crude inlet
#

Just keep sharing the progress

placid sage
#

stucked

#

again

placid sage
solid notch
placid sage
crude inlet
#

it's fine to not be ready due to setup

placid sage
#

supervisor logs?

crude inlet
#

just keep updating the screenshots

brittle sail
placid sage
placid sage
crude inlet
#

ok leave it alone for a bit

solid notch
#

I suspect that docker engine wouldn't start. Somehow. It's guess, of course.

placid sage
crude inlet
#

in 10 minutes try su logs again

placid sage
brittle sail
lilac rose
#

hey, i am trying to get my ha on raspberry pi installed but in the logs it is just stuck on [supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete

placid sage
#

we're tryin to fix the same problem

#

pi 4 or 5?

lilac rose
#

4 b

placid sage
#

mine is 5 so it's not about 5. let's see whats the problem

lilac rose
placid sage
#

and thats mine

lilac rose
#

ok

placid sage
lilac rose
#

Ok, thx

wind adder
#

<- newbie with few questions, is HA only available as a container?

crude inlet
#

No but it's likely the best way to run it, whether in your own docker install or HAOS which uses docker

#

Running core as a python venv is going to be a pain when python needs updating

#

But you can

wind adder
#

I've setup a lab to build my network for the house I'm building, with a 4 gb rpi4 it may not be the way to go.

#

I might be better off installing it virtually on the NAS server I'm putting the finishing touches on.

#

Gees kinda sucks learning two or three programs to just use one.

brittle sail
wind adder
#

It seems like one would have to learn a virtualization program to use HA. I'm thinking docker might be the way to go at his point.

empty bloom
#

or just get a micro computer and install the image

#

which is waht 90% of users do

#

HA green is $100, you can get an odriod pretty cheap. Or an old mini pc for $100 off ebay

wind adder
#

and mqtt

empty bloom
#

you don't need mqtt

#

it makes DIY projects easier

#

but that can run inside HAOS

#

single click install that way

wind adder
#

What is the minimum specs on the hardware needed?

empty bloom
#

just copy a Rpi4

brittle sail
#

Nor is there anything to learn for Mqtt for most integrations

wind adder
#

Im going to use a bunch of converted tuya relays.

empty bloom
#

wifi? w/ tuya installed on them?

wind adder
#

Wifi, yes runs the lighting switches the house

empty bloom
#

Your milage may very, tuya is hit or miss on wifi with external software

#

(like HA)

wind adder
#

sorry they are the lighting switch, about 28 circuits.

empty bloom
#

I suggest you try HA out first w/ tuya before you decide to purchase hardware.

wind adder
#

I want to run stand alone.

empty bloom
#

well, as said before, Tuya is hit or miss. There's a golden rule in tech: Cheap, Easy, Works -> Circle 2.

#

tuya falls into Cheap, Easy

wind adder
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I've flashed 7 units

raven forge
#

With what?

wind adder
#

I bought 2 or 3 years ago, and flashed them with tasmota

brittle sail
#

Wi-Fi switches in general just ain’t it chief

wind adder
#

I've backed them up with hardwire and low voltage switch, so the relay can be tripped with wifi or mechanical switch.

empty bloom
#

TUYA is the protocol

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when you flash it, it wipes out the tuya protocol

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tasmota works well with HA

wind adder
#

I try to do my homework..

brittle sail
wind adder
#

I'm running the low voltage wiring now. Saving a bunch over 12/2 with 18/4 , 14/2 or 12,2 speaker wire and 24vdc.

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Price , 4x relay, $18.00 + a couple headers for hardwire, and external antenna.

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I've never ran docker or a linux virt, suggestion. The nas has 32 gigs of ram, 5t of rust drives,

raven forge
#

Suggestion for what?

crude inlet
#

And once thats been done you might discover potential for other VMs. Or docker and containers for that matter

brittle sail
twilit junco
#

Do you guys know what Tuya means as a word?

empty bloom
#

the company is named after the volcano type

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just google Tuya or what is tuya company named after

sly pulsar
#

I have rpi4b, is this the release that i should burn to sdcard haos_generic-aarch64-12.0.img.xz ? i rather use my own tools than installing raspberry pi imager

empty bloom
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no

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why don't you want to use rpi imager?

sly pulsar
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i rather use my own tools than installing raspberry pi imager

sly pulsar
empty bloom
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the one that has rpi4 in the name

sly pulsar
#

ah, totally missed the other assets. haos_rpi4-64-12.0.img.xz then I suppose

plucky talon
#

That's the one

lilac rose
sly pulsar
#

just testing the new haos 12 on a new install. new usb zigbee stick aswell. the zigbee home automation device was automatically detected. this was new to me. does this replace zigbee2mqtt?

raven forge
#

ZHA and Z2M are separate projects.

sly pulsar
#

ok, same basic functionality and purpose?

raven forge
mortal sinew
#

No clue if installation is the right place...About says I'm running 2024.2.5. But, I see 2024.3.x is released. I haven't seen a update notification for that and I have other updates that won't update without 2024.3 Is this something that need to be done by hand?

hot pumice
#

update trouble all zigbee devices not aviable

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biggest update fail since i use HA 😦

hot pumice
#

its hanging

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in core update process

lilac rose
raven forge
hot pumice
#

is there a way to kill the update process via terminal

raven forge
hot pumice
#

oh no its my mistake

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sorry for all

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HA installed on 2 system with same ip

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its my mistake

lilac rose
#

@raven forge

raven forge
#

From a quick glance I don't see an error there.

lilac rose
#

It is just stuck on the log msg and nothing happened when you left it like that for 5 hrs

hot pumice
#

Warning or critical alerts (last 1 entries)
2024-03-01 19:16:15 (01:53:43) - CRITICAL on CPU_IOWAIT (34,9

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what means that ?

raven forge
hot pumice
#

how can i delete it

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i think some makes troubel two devices with same ip on HA

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i see a pi3 is too weak

raven forge
#

It's certainly not fast but you talk about too many things at the same time without much information for each.

hot pumice
#

well, i'm testing several things in parallel here

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once on PI3 vs i3-3220

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@placid sage I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
hot pumice
#

for example with a repeat automation " output door open " if you repeat the announcement 20 times or more, the PI3 crashes.

dull jewel
#

Hey guys, i have problems to link my shelly mini1G3 to Home Assistant. I made the Shelly device configuration with enableing the outbound websocket with the wss://Home_Assistant_local_ip_address:Port/api/shelly/ws . Then I entered Shelly's IP into Home Assistant but there where only a window with close and no error message. I already linked 2 shellys from Gen 1 that worked fined. Hope someone can help me

cursive plank
#

is there a way to physically browse/map the "share" directory in HA OS?

raven forge
#

Physically?

cursive plank
#

well no sorry lol

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just want to browse to it

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installed qbtorrent to my HA box

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and want to be able to access to iso's

raven forge
cursive plank
lilac rose
#

is it better to run HAOS on pi from sd or usb drive

raven forge
#

There is no or little benefit over SD Cards. If you have to use a pi the "best" choice would be a SSD on a powered USB Hub.

mortal sinew
lilac rose
#

i bought a raspberry pi only for this, and it still doesnt work. can somebody hop on a vc w/me

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pls

lilac rose
#

is there any non haos install for raspberry pi like on a ubuntu or kali?

raven forge
lilac rose
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it just f**ks me: [warn] Home assistant cli not starting! Jump into emergency console

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and i need add-on

grand pivot
#

Nobody does

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You might want them, but nobody needs them

lilac rose
#

it is the only reason i mess with this

grand pivot
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Not an addon

lilac rose
#

then with what i can install it

grand pivot
#

You follow the instructions

humble scaffoldBOT
lilac rose
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bruh -_- i cant even install it to explore the contents of the app

grand pivot
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Ok

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I still suggest following the instructions right there

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Use HACS

lilac rose
#

i cant even get it on my pi

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f**k this i am just returning it to the store

crude inlet
#

What do you see in a browser?

errant urchin
#

hi, so I was guided here from General. I have been running home assistant on a Lenovo X220 for some months now and recently (after updating) it has been turning off after ~20-30min of work. It turns off without any info, just switching off and I can turn it on manually. The logs only show improper shutdown (and some irrelevant warnings). I have tried rolling back the OS and HA Core, but it doesnt seem to have resolved the issue so I cannot say its the update

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I am at a loss how diagnose the issue further

raven forge
#

Please check the host logs: <#general-archived message>
You want to check the last few logs of the last boot. Might also be a hardware defect.

errant urchin
#

it always ends with this

raven forge
#

So basically nothing.

errant urchin
#

OK thats what I thought. So only guess is hardware issue?

raven forge
#

I'd expect some kernel messages there if the OS were to crash or shut down for some reason. If the logs suddently stop it hints towards being a hardware issue.

errant urchin
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I was guessing maybe the laptop goes into some hibernation mode because of inactivity, but it did not do it before

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but also its quite old, so could be just dying

raven forge
#

I'm not sure what the log would say in such a case but if it was you should be able to wake it with a key press or short press of the power button. The generic image also has special ignore handling for closing the lid and so on: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/blob/dev/buildroot-external/rootfs-overlay/etc/systemd/logind.conf
https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues/1093
If it really happens every 20 minutes I'd try to capture it live and see what the monitor shows. Maybe record it with your phone?
You can also try live booting another OS and see if the same happens.

errant urchin
#

Thanks I will try later

spiral stag
#

I'm having issues installing HA in my raspberry Pi 4. I followed the tutorial here - https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi. After connecting the powe supply, I can't reach the HA page. My network cable (that is working on other devices) doesn't have any lights. I don't have a micro-hdmi cable so I can't see what the console is showing. I tried to enter by SSH but I'm not sure what is the IP addrees. I think I know because I can see my connected devices. What should I do?

raven forge
#

Get a HDMI adapter. Check your router for a DHCP lease.

spiral stag
#

it's solved now. it was the network cable. for some reason stopped working. what a coincidence! :S

grand pivot
#

You should go directly to 3.12

grand pivot
#

Maybe consider why you've chosen this installation method vs a container?

digital harness
#

++New Thread++ I added a 2TB drive to my HA NUC Server and am doing a fresh install and then I am going to restore a backup. I am looking at the Partitions and there is 2tb of unused space. Are there any best practices to review as I am planning on using the same server as adding Frigate and using the NUC as a NVR. Any guidance is appreciated.

foggy brook
#

What is the proper docker image url for the beta version?

grand pivot
honest kernel
brittle sail
#

Cuz you’re obviously not ready if you can’t figure this out, and I’m saying that because it’s not worth banging your head against the wall.

outer hamlet
#

I have HA setup and everything working externally through nginx reverse proxy, but how do I allow it to be accessible in an Organizr iframe?

glossy lantern
#

Should I scrape HAOS and go to HA in a container?

outer hamlet
#

I vote UnraidOS for the host machine, docker for the rest

outer hamlet
#

I have HA setup and everything working

gloomy niche
raven forge
#

I'd recommend proxmox VE unless you have a good reason do do it manually.
At which part are you stuck? What does the VM console/termina say? What does ufw status say?

gloomy niche
raven forge
#

I can't answer that for you.

gloomy niche
#

Ok, well I will try using proxmox and see how it goes

brittle sail
gloomy niche
brittle sail
gloomy niche
glossy lantern
#

Asked this in my thread, but gonna ask again in the main channel.

Going to take my HAOS and run it in a VM on proxmox. I am planning on adding raid drives for running a NAS VM later. I am trying to figure out if I need to use ZFS or if I can add drives later with.

This line from the guide linked above is why I am not sure I can do that:

Super nerds may want to deviate from using a single drive in their Proxmox server and throw in ZFS, do ZFS mirroring, and use multiple storage devices.

It sounds like without ZFS, I cannot use multiple storage drives. Is that correct?

raven forge
#

There's many ways to do RAID. Is RAID even the right thing for your use case? I don't see the relation to HAOS at this point.

glossy lantern
raven forge
#

We should stick to that thread. I'll answer there.

quartz wing
#

I think I know the answer to this, but is there any way to have the configuration yaml file in a different location?
usecase - I want to put configuration.yaml into git with a few of the other files, and then build them into the container, having the rest of the config files mounted into the container at runtime

brittle sail
quartz wing
#

Oh that's clever I think - you're suggestion that my configuration.yaml essentially just links to other files, e.g.

homeassistant:
  configuration-real: !include ../immutable-config/configuration.yaml

And then move all of my configuration to this linked config-real?

brittle sail
#

I’ll let another nerd jump in I don’t use it

quartz wing
#

I needs to be in a different folder so I can still mount the default config location

brittle sail
#

But you can definitely do what you are wanting to do

quartz wing
#

TY, I think you are on the right track though for sure, I hadn't thought of this

brittle sail
brittle sail
#

I just searched the exact link I sent - it’s pretty common

quartz wing
#

Thanks, I could have done that, so I appreciate you checking it out for me 🙇

brittle sail
#

There’s lots of nuggets of info spanning years if you know what to search

#

I’m a discord prompt engineersmile

quartz wing
#

lol

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Yeah, forums are not great for some things, Discord/Slack not great for other things. It's easy to struggle with either. Though I have found Chat GPT4 is quite good with home assistant topics because it has obviously ingested the forum and the documentation. It would be cool if there was a way to get Discord in there too but I fear it's too hard to structure right now

glossy lantern
#

Thank you. I am going to go ahead and give zfs a try

brittle sail
solid notch
quartz wing
#

I think this is the wrong channel, but I hope that is a joke @solid notch 😂

brittle sail
#

If it helps people learn it’s not a bad thing it just needs to be used as a tool like anything else (properly or shit goes wrong)

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A hammer is great until you buy a box of screws

solid notch
quartz wing
#

I think it's like internet year 1, there are problems but I wouldn't sniff at it

flint python
#

Hey all, I am looking into integrating my Tuya android system onto Home Assistent on my Windows 10
system, I had it setup on a virtualbox VM image but no idea what to do after this?
I tried onboarding but no idea how to continue further?

thorny dew
#

Team, I purchased the WiFi LED controller and I am having issues connecting the product to wifi. On the app I see it but it continues to say "connetion failed". I have restarted it mulitple times.

half blade
fallen lichen
#

Could you grab this file? A backup of the logfile is stored in /config/home-assistant-rollback.log

languid fog
#

@raven forge hey buddy 😄

raven forge
#

Hello.

languid fog
#

with this on top

empty bloom
#

do you have a question or are you monologuing?

languid fog
#

I'm having difficulty adding a HACS and trouble finding the custom_components folder in my HA config directory..

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haven't worked with HACS before

#

also don't know whether I have it enabled tbh

empty bloom
#

did you follow the installation instructions on hacs.xyz

#

?

languid fog
#

oh no!

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checking now!

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thanks 😄

empty bloom
languid fog
#

afaik I setup HACS, and now I'm trying to add an integration but it's not finding anything if I type HACS

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: /

empty bloom
#

did you restart?

languid fog
#

no

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sec

empty bloom
#

ok then

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restart

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download new integration -> restart

languid fog
#

got it sir!

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yup it shows now!

misty leaf
#

I got a used HP Elitedesk because I had plans to install Proxmox and then HA as a VM (together with a few more things).
But the computer has Windows 10 installed and it seems legit so I wonder if there is a way to backup this installation to be able to fully recover it in the future. Or, if I want to keep windows running, can I just install the VMs directly on windows instead. Is not optimal but might be a good compromise to keep everything running?

raven forge
#

The license is likely bound to your mainboard. Research that and how to bind it to an account

misty leaf
#

Huumm then is probably connected with a different account (the computer probably came from an corporate environment)
I haven't used windows in over 15 years so I guess I have a lot to catch up.

brittle sail
misty leaf
brittle sail
#

I do it on all my VMs lol

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In theory

languid fog
#

@raven forge hey buddy

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I'm trying to add this repo

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on importing I get this message:

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Repository delzear/hass-formulaoneapi not found

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any logical explanation..?

raven forge
#

There's no need to tag me. If someone sees your message and can help you they will answer. That includes me.

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Add this repo where?

brittle sail
#

I think a big misunderstanding is that tags often come because they respect you, even tho by tagging you they aren’t necessarily respecting your time… duality of man

languid fog
#

I think I added it now

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but notihing happened after successfully adding it

#

I see the FormulaOne Card frontend now

#

I'm struggling to locate my HA Configuration folders

#

if I can locate those, I'll be able to progress

languid fog
raven forge
languid fog
#

I see that there are 4 options to pick from

raven forge
#

Oh you mean from my link. All of them 😄

languid fog
#

oh really?

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interesting

raven forge
#

Yeah. They all have their uses.

lavish sinew
#

does anyone have ever installed home assistant on Truenas scale as a plug in? will it install the full os?

raven forge
#

90% sure it's the container install. You can run a HAOS VM on it though.

lavish sinew
lavish sinew
raven forge
olive elk
#

Can someone help me install Home Assistant on raspberry pi zero WH. (i don't know if it can be usefull to anything but i have a vps to)

empty bloom
#

that's not enough ram

olive elk
#

can i use the vps for calculation or things like that and this as a controller or a let's say connection to my home?

tender wren
olive elk
#

idk

errant urchin
hot pumice
#

Warning or critical alerts (last 5 entries)
2024-03-04 16:08:29 (00:02:38) - CRITICAL on MEMSWAP (100)
2024-03-04 16:07:49 (00:00:18) - WARNING on MEMSWAP (72,9)
2024-03-04 15:48:16 (00:00:49) - CRITICAL on MEMSWAP (99,6)
2024-03-04 15:44:55 (00:26:25) - CRITICAL on MEM (99)
2024-03-04 15:42:26 (00:00:11) - WARNING on MEM (72,3)

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what problem HA have?

tender wren
#

Memory problems

hot pumice
#

4 GB not enought ? and 512 gb ssd?

tender wren
#

Something seems to use all memory and swap...
Either a memory leak or you are doing something, for which 4GB RAM is not enough

hot pumice
#

i think a repeat automation makes troubel

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are 8 gb ram enough ? or better 16

tender wren
#

Better would be to find the cause and fix it

hot pumice
#

on 2 systems a repeat automation crashed system

grand pivot
#

Sounds like you didn't have a delay in it

tender wren
#

If it crashed 2 systems, it might be the cause

grand pivot
#

Any sort of tight loop will crash any system

hot pumice
#

i think thats it

tender wren
#

Throwing more RAM at it will just delay the crash

hot pumice
#

no delay annd loop

grand pivot
#

It's not a RAM thing at all

hot pumice
#

it should output door open on the echo until the door is closed that doesn't work

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even if he repeats the message 20 times it crashes

hot pumice
#

how much ram should you have?

primal heron
#

Hey all! I'm having some trouble with my CM4 8gb w/ 32g emmc. It was working just fine last night with Debain on it, but I installed Home Assistant. It won't boot because I don't have an ethernet plugin on the carrier board, but my bigger problem is that the Pi isn't showing up with rpiboot anymore, so now I have no way of accessing the files.

I checked with the carrier board's github and there are no known issues on this topic, and everything has always worked perfectly on this setup until Home Assistant went on. Any troubleshooting ideas?

PS, here's the carrier board I'm using. I suspect the problem is that the home assistant install affected how it interacts with the carrier board, but I have no way of testing: https://github.com/magic-blue-smoke/Raspberry-Pi-CM4-TV-Stick

languid fog
grand pivot
#

Any of them

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It's in your config directory

languid fog
#

found it, thank you Rob!

languid fog
#

one big disaster.. trying to add the Formula One Card

languid fog
#

I think I did it as I should

languid fog
#

I need to perform Actions on the card..

#

but it's all messed up..

#

cant see shit

#

so stressfull haha, it's all a bit complicated for me still

#

gonna head to bed..

brazen hawk
#

When restoring from a backup from a Google Drive backup. I'm migrating from a Raspberry Pi4 that might be failing to a VM on proxmox. Will I have to rebuild my zigbee and z-wave networks ?

raven forge
#

If you restore from HAOS to HAOS and pass the adapters through to the VM that should not be needed.

humble notch
#

Hello, i migrated from my rpi4 to the new rpi5 using a FullBackup for restore. The HA runs, but no Addons are starting. How can i solve this? The configs are all available. i triued a delete and new install of the "Terminal & sSH" addon, this doesnt help.

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i think the adons are starting, but shown as unknown on console with "ha addons list"

raven forge
#

The system needs a reboot (not a restart of HA) after a restore to work properly.

humble notch
#

i have done multi reboots now - nothing helps

raven forge
#

You could try ha supervisor repair or restore again. Perhaps also check logs via ha supervisor logs and perhaps ha host logs.

humble notch
#

is there a way to totally reset the ha config? then i install the addons first an then restore a partial backup

raven forge
#

Not a simple/official one as far as I know. HA itself, sure. But everything?

humble notch
#

reboot - that was my issue. always only restarting

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thx

humble notch
#

and solved 🙂 all is running fine again

#

now on rpi5 - 8GB - pcie bus nvme 256GB

raven forge
raven mirage
#

Hello, I am trying to install HAOS on a raspberry pi 4 with an sd card. The problem is that when I try to boot into HAOS nothing happens i dont see any activity on the ethernet port and the installation doesnt show up on the network. I have tried 3 different sd cards and 2 diffrent power supplies. I have tried to plug in an hdmi cable, but nothing shows up. (Im new to the server so sorry if this is not the right place to ask) I have tried to look for an answer on the forums but no one seems to have the same problem.

merry fern
#

Hello, so i wanna install the HAOS on an x64 (Intel nuc) is there a way i can install it without needing to have the usb in constantly i already moved the storage to the Intel nuc itself through the ui.

raven forge
raven forge
merry fern
raven forge
merry fern
#

Like i use method 2

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I am not interested in having linux running in the background (i know it basicly still is but you get my point)

drifting elbow
#

Hello there I'm kinda new in HAOS, recently bought rpi5, nvme and nvme hat for building my system. Installed HAOS 12 but got some issue, may o ask for any advices or help with it ?

raven forge
merry fern
raven forge
#

Oh, btw, you might benefit from virtualizing HAOS. Just a thought.

brittle sail
#

P r o x m o x

raw hedge
#

why vm when you can go lighter

raven forge
raw hedge
#

more of a software thing :S

#

containers are lighter 😛

raven forge
#

Indeed.

raw hedge
#

41 containers and 7.1 GB of ram used, I would be scared to try to reproduce in vms

raven forge
#

I run HA as container too, just inside a VM. PVE adds about 1G of memory overhead but the benefits are worth it to me.

brittle sail
#

you're taking what he said and runnning with it in the wrong direction

raw hedge
#

my HA stack keeps growning +1 every few months

brittle sail
#

diagnosing issues with haos bare metal vs diagnosing issues with haos in a VM where you can login to proxmox is night and day

#

also future-proofing ability for additional stuff on the same box like a dockerhost vm for adguard etc

raw hedge
#

❤️ my rootless HA container, it cant take over my host if it gets infected

drifting elbow
raw hedge
humble scaffoldBOT
#

Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

  1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
  2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
  3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
  4. What's the exact error message?
  5. When did it arise?
  6. What exactly don't you "get"?
  7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?