#installation-archived | Home Assistant | Page 53

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 8:26 PM

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after update

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 8:26 PM

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You can try hassos-supervisor. Ideally one uses systemctl restart hassos-supervisor but that ran into a limit in my test.

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 8:29 PM

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https://dpaste.org/wq1Qn finger crossed

grand pivot Dec 5, 2023, 8:29 PM

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we need a countdown timer based on how long a reflash/restore would have taken 🙂

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~90mins so far

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 8:30 PM

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It's why I told them this before hand: <#installation-archived message>
I consider it a learning opportunity and memory training but it feels very janky to work with HAOS' (supervisor's specifically) guts and a waste of time for the participant in a lot of cases so I'm gonna warn them in the future if I suspect it taking a long time or have little hope of fixing it.

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 8:34 PM

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@raven forge maybe you see issue https://dpaste.org/FcaaX

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 8:35 PM

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The goal was to get supervisor up so the ha supervisor repair command can be used.

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 8:36 PM

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CONTAINER ID   IMAGE                                                      COMMAND               CREATED         STATUS          PORTS                                   NAMES
49cf926ff32b   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:latest    "/init"               7 minutes ago   Up 3 minutes                                            hassio_supervisor
847bd12a71f5   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-dns:2023.06.2        "/init"               3 weeks ago     Up 30 minutes                                           hassio_dns
ebe2e5482afc   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-cli:2023.10.0        "/init"               3 weeks ago     Up 44 minutes                                           hassio_cli
7218e0cf2cab   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-observer:2023.06.0   "/usr/bin/observer"   5 months ago    Up 2 hours      0.0.0.0:4357->80/tcp, :::4357->80/tcp   hassio_observer
# ha supervisor repair
Post "http://supervisor/supervisor/repair": dial tcp 172.30.32.2:80: connect: no route to host
# for container in $(docker ps --format '{{ .ID }}'); do docker inspect $container --format='{{.Name}}: "{{range .NetworkSettings.Networks}}{{.IPAddress}}{{end}}"'; done
/hassio_supervisor: "172.30.232.2"
/hassio_dns: "172.30.32.3"
/hassio_cli: "172.30.32.5"
/hassio_observer: "172.30.32.6"
# ```

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same problem with diffrent ip

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 8:38 PM

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I hate to leave things in a broken state but maybe a re-flash is in order.

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 8:39 PM

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got you

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my problem is howto re-flash

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i have started with sd card and then switched to usb

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 8:41 PM

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Basically the same way you installed it but perhaps you can just use the USB this time. Is the USB (SSD?) on a powered hub?

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 8:44 PM

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usb stick

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it is a long time ago i did flashing

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 8:44 PM

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Just make sure your backups are off-site or grab them before.

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 8:46 PM

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i will re-flash another stick

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 8:48 PM

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USB sticks tend to not have the best longevity and are probably as prone to corruption as SD Cards.

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 8:50 PM

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high endurance USB or SD cards will last a bit longer, its a case of you get what you pay for

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 8:51 PM

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i think also rpi is not the best platform

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 8:53 PM

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Me neither: <#installation-archived message>

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 8:54 PM

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raven forge Me neither: <https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/944337294389805056/...

rip the offical docker install script.....

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p3 days was also still too early arm arch days

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its easy now, kinda 0 support back then

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 8:56 PM

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2017
I admit it's probably not that painful nowadays.

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 8:56 PM

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its a run this script and it will set up everything you need these days

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64bit arm only now as everyone is moving away from 32bit

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 8:59 PM

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i flashed usb stick now i put it in same port as the corrupted one and hope that it start with out any monitor

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 9:00 PM

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I run fedora IoT which is fedora server + ostree which includes podman container software built right in for everything at home

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I recoomend HaOS (hassos) for people who have no idea with linux tho and take regular backups (download them somwehere)

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when it breaks, reinstall and restore

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 9:11 PM

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@raw hedge you are right... but you can get to the same point that if you support windows as sysadmin and after updating something it can also be broken as mine now with updating hassos

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@raven forge just flashing usb stick didn't get up system back again

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i try the old fashion way.... flashing sd start hassos and restore

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 9:12 PM

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It might try to boot off of the SD Card. Depending on the pi you might have to set USB boot up.

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 9:13 PM

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@raven forge the old sd is still in slot but the new usb stick has other partitions order *guess

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 9:16 PM

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torpid dagger <@555842690210725889> you are right... but you can get to the same point that if...

yah but you are a sysadmin at that point and know how / where to start to fix it

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like how I run everything in some crazy container land where container root is not host root but a subUID of a non existent user and each container root uses its own subguid of that non existing user

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easy for me, hard for the haos target 🙂

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 9:19 PM

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I have a question, does anyone know how I can get my logs from homeassistant

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 5, 2023, 9:19 PM

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Logs

Open your Home Assistant instance and show your Home Assistant logs

broken hollow Dec 5, 2023, 9:20 PM

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hello everyone, I'm trying to install HAOS on a HP T520, but apparently the Wi-Fi drivers are only available in the dev builds: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues/2967 If I installed a dev build, can I later switch to stable once the stable build with the driver included is out?

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 9:21 PM

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yes, one can allways switch over

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 9:21 PM

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what when i restore from backup should i get in place with usb again or does it work also with just having sd

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 9:22 PM

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torpid dagger what when i restore from backup should i get in place with usb again or does it ...

you should be able to access the web portal and upload it as part of the setup process now

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they made it really easy

broken hollow Dec 5, 2023, 9:23 PM

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raw hedge yes, one can allways switch over

thanks, is that possible with a single command, or do I need to reflash and then restore a backup?

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 9:23 PM

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@raw hedge already there but backuped system was with usb stick active and restore system is just with sd card in slot

broken hollow Dec 5, 2023, 9:24 PM

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i'm assuming i could do something like ha supervisor options --channel stable to preemptively switch, but keep the dev build until a new stable one is available?

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 9:25 PM

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even better

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 9:25 PM

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broken hollow i'm assuming i could do something like `ha supervisor options --channel stable` ...

I think you can switch via the gui now

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or worst case, backup and a quick reinstall stable

broken hollow Dec 5, 2023, 9:26 PM

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Cool, thanks!

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 9:27 PM

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@raw hedge can you tell me if this is a problem?

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when backuped system was with active usb stick and the restored one is just with an sd card installed

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 9:29 PM

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no idea, I have been container based for forever, I just do HaOS installs for my friends

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docker > kubernetes > podman was my path

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 9:32 PM

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@dreamy ibex btw restore takes 45 min

grand pivot Dec 5, 2023, 9:32 PM

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well, it's been 2.5hours 🙂

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 9:33 PM

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ah, restore also depends on internet speed

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 9:36 PM

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All those images/layers that are being downloaded are written to a slow storage medium and also have to be extracted.

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 9:39 PM

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you re kidding

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 9:39 PM

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not kidding

empty bloom Dec 5, 2023, 9:40 PM

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That's how all installations work aside from mounting direct images

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space for item and decompressing -> install -> then remove temp files

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 9:43 PM

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well HA could bundle in a docker archive of a container and import it for first start but thats not very efficent

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we are talking about GBs of more space

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 9:46 PM

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this is sometimes so frustrating

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time wasting

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and tomorrow hassos update will be taken back

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 9:54 PM

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I don't have a pi but just the amd64 homeassistant image is 1.91GB and causes 140K~ files to be created when pulled/extracted.
Most SD Cards and USB sticks don't excel at lots of file operations (bad 4K speeds).

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:03 PM

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hi i have a problem when i start up home assistant its says : wait until kernel time Synchronized: and than fails. can someone help plz.

humble mirage Dec 5, 2023, 10:03 PM

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You said:

the problem is i think it has no internet a have a cable in my pc

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Can you explain more

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:06 PM

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yes i had home assistant running for more than a year. yesterday i replaced my battery from my pc and i start it up that is when i get that fail

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i have a internet cable in the pc that works i test it it

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i run home assistant from my harddrive directly

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oo and I replaced the ram

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 10:09 PM

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Are you running it in a VM?

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:10 PM

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no

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 10:11 PM

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torpid dagger and tomorrow hassos update will be taken back

Better than a full download that is much much larger, only to have an update from boot up because yay new versions

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Let alone the generic docker images but different install bases for hardware

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:14 PM

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i had my harddrive in a other pc to in stall hassOs and then i put it in the other pc and it works until yesterday

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 10:15 PM

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Identical computers

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:15 PM

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i have the latest update of home assistant on it

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no not identical

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this one has a AMD cpu

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 10:16 PM

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Check the supervisor logs with supervisor logs and the network info with network info in the ha > CLI.
If you have SSH you can also use that. Just have to prefix the above with ha .

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:21 PM

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it say network : docker adress: 172.30........ and interface : connected:false ipv4 address: [ ] gateway null ipv6 : address: [ ] gateway null

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 5, 2023, 10:21 PM

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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language, and consider picking a longer expiry)
http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:23 PM

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ipv4 and ipv6: method: disabled

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primary: false type: ethernet vlan: null wifi: null supervisor_internet: false

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it say network : docker adress: 172.30........ and interface : connected:false ipv4 address: [ ] gateway null ipv6 : address: [ ] gateway null

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 10:28 PM

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Does ip addr work ?

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:29 PM

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how do i check that?

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 10:29 PM

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“Ip addr”

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 10:29 PM

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Please share the full output either via a code share site or as image if you must. Don't just share a part of it.

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:30 PM

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what is ip addr and how do i check it

tender wren Dec 5, 2023, 10:30 PM

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Method disabled?

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:31 PM

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tender wren Method disabled?

??

tender wren Dec 5, 2023, 10:32 PM

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The snippets state ipv4 and 6 method diabled

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Those should be auto or static

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:33 PM

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i disabled nothing how do i change it

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 10:34 PM

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#installation-archived message

tender wren Dec 5, 2023, 10:34 PM

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ha net up end0 --ipv4-method auto
ha net up end0 --ipv6-method auto
(You might need to adjust the inferface name end0)

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:34 PM

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okey and then reboot?

tender wren Dec 5, 2023, 10:34 PM

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no

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:34 PM

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oo okey

tender wren Dec 5, 2023, 10:35 PM

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But the full output impact requested might show more

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Oh, I missed the interface 😆

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 10:37 PM

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Ip addr shows the ip addresses and is a really really quick way to check of your network is all wrong

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https://i.postimg.cc/C5cZPLFb/IMG-3010.jpg

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Million $ question, which interface

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Why they need the full log, as you can see I have 49 of them

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:38 PM

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i get:::: FATA[00001] Error while executing rootCmd: accepts 1 arg(s), received 0

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 10:40 PM

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Bet is because different hardware and not a fresh install that runs the setup scripts, your networking is probably a bit funky

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:41 PM

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i had home assistant running for more than a year on this pc after replacing the cmos battery and the ram it is not working any more

raw hedge Dec 5, 2023, 10:43 PM

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#installation-archived message why this is needed

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Your interface could be eth0 end0 ens02748393 etc

tender wren Dec 5, 2023, 10:44 PM

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Share the full ha network infooutput with a code share site, like Impact requested. After that we can propably figure out how to get the network back online

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 10:46 PM

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is there a way to check restore?

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it is still restoring

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:47 PM

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is it possible to send a photo of it?

tender wren Dec 5, 2023, 10:47 PM

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torpid dagger is there a way to check restore?

Try to access HA via http://homeassistant.local:8123 from another browser tab

tender wren Dec 5, 2023, 10:48 PM

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vagrant salmon is it possible to send a photo of it?

If it not too tiny to read. That's why we prefer code sharing sites

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 5, 2023, 10:48 PM

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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:48 PM

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tender wren Try to access HA via http://homeassistant.local:8123 from another browser tab

that doesn't work either

tender wren Dec 5, 2023, 10:48 PM

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vagrant salmon that doesn't work either

That's not been for you

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 10:49 PM

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oo sorry haha

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 10:49 PM

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torpid dagger is there a way to check restore?

As far as I know the "best" way still is to check the supervisor log for any progress or recent outputs via supervisor logs.
You can also try opening HA in a new tab and see if it loads.

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 10:50 PM

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@tender wren @raven forge nothing error loading page

tender wren Dec 5, 2023, 10:51 PM

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torpid dagger <@176078742286761985> <@269690841176604673> nothing error loading page

Then it's propably still restoring. You can wait or try to look at the supervisor logs

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 10:51 PM

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where is supervisor logs

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do i need terminal access

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or is there webinterface

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 10:53 PM

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You enter/review that command via keyboard and monitor connected to the device. During a restore that's the only somewhat guaranteed to work way.

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 10:54 PM

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ok so i have no monitor or keyboard i need to wait

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 11:00 PM

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how can i send you my logs Hass is running on a other pc i dont have a web browser on it, it only has HassOs on it i cant copy the logs

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 11:00 PM

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does it reboot after restore?

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 11:00 PM

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vagrant salmon how can i send you my logs Hass is running on a other pc i dont have a web brows...

You can take a picture of the screen if you have to

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 11:01 PM

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how do i restore ?

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i can take a picture how do i send it to you discord has no option to send any pictures

tender wren Dec 5, 2023, 11:04 PM

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vagrant salmon i can take a picture how do i send it to you discord has no option to send any p...

#installation-archived message

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 11:06 PM

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okey what logs do you need? and what is the command for it

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 11:07 PM

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👺

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 11:07 PM

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sorry im not a pro in Hass

tender wren Dec 5, 2023, 11:08 PM

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#installation-archived message

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 11:09 PM

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tender wren https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/944337294389805056/1181720884956...

okey thanx one moment plzz i need to start up my pc

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when i type... ha supervisor logs... i get .... Note: leading 'ha' is not necessary in this HA CLI

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that's all

tender wren Dec 5, 2023, 11:16 PM

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Then do it without the leading ha

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 11:17 PM

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okey i have now the network info i take a pic

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https://imgur.com/vvcciNQ

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 11:20 PM

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@grand pivot time?

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 11:20 PM

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time?

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https://imgur.com/igjb3VG

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 11:24 PM

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vagrant salmon https://imgur.com/vvcciNQ

Are you sure the ethernet cable is plugged in and is connected to a router/switch?
You can try network update enp3s0 --ipv4-method auto --ipv6-method auto and then check network info again but that looks like it's not plugged in.
Please enter login and then ip addr show enp3s0

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 11:24 PM

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https://imgur.com/1Uih0xV

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it is plugged in

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oke i try

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https://imgur.com/q37mGCE

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i get this

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 11:29 PM

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Sorry, I updated the command above.

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 11:30 PM

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okey one moment

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 11:31 PM

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oh mann still in progress

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it is almost 1 hour now for restore

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 11:33 PM

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They joys of HA's backups

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 11:33 PM

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sorry 2 hours

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 11:33 PM

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https://imgur.com/OyejE4O is the code correct ?

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then i press enther

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 11:33 PM

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Looks correct

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 11:34 PM

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Command completed successfully.

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 11:34 PM

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Great, now check and share network info's output again

torpid dagger Dec 5, 2023, 11:35 PM

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@raven forge what do you say is 2hours anoth

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 11:35 PM

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i think it is working my lights are going on and off wtf haha

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okey one moment plz

vagrant salmon Dec 5, 2023, 11:37 PM

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raven forge Great, now check and share `network info`'s output again

thanx home assistant works !!!!! thank you so much !!!!awesome

summer yoke Dec 5, 2023, 11:42 PM

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How can i find the mosquitto container in home assistant through the docker network, because home assistant is in network mode host, it cant resolve the other container names (other than using localhost:1883), unless there is no other way

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 5, 2023, 11:42 PM

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@summer yoke I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.yaml

raven forge Dec 5, 2023, 11:47 PM

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Use ~~mosquitto or~~ the host's ip. You can get it via ip a

torpid dagger Dec 6, 2023, 12:04 AM

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Still no System

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Is this normal for an restore more then 2.5 hour and nothing

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5 addons installed

tender wren Dec 6, 2023, 12:12 AM

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Hard to say without further supervisor logs

pastel coral Dec 6, 2023, 1:06 AM

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i have this two codes in configuration.yaml to external access to my HA:

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*http:
ssl_certificate: /ssl/fullchain.pem
ssl_key: /ssl/privkey.pem

http:
use_x_forwarded_for: true
trusted_proxies:
- 172.30.0.0/16*

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the system work but in configuration.yaml say this:

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File 'configuration.yaml' could not be parsed, it was referenced from path 'configuration.yaml'.This file will be ignored. Error(s): - YAMLSemanticError: Map keys must be unique; "http" is repeated

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can delete one of these?

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its because I use duckdns and Ginx

grand pivot Dec 6, 2023, 1:08 AM

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You have http: twice

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Delete one

gentle drift Dec 6, 2023, 3:36 AM

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I've got a HAOS install in a QEMU VM. I just migrated it from its previous host (using virt-manager) to a new host (using proxmox). It boots up fine but has no network connectivity. ha network info shows that it has detected the virtio NIC as enp0s18, but also says enabled: false.
How do I enable the host NIC again?

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ip a shows no IP address assigned but link present, so it's not like I've accidentally told it to emulate a network card with no cable inserted.

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aha, ha network up $IF --ipv4-method auto

pastel coral Dec 6, 2023, 9:12 AM

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grand pivot You have http: twice

If I delete one line of http the remote access doesnt work!

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´´´
http:
ssl_certificate: /ssl/fullchain.pem
ssl_key: /ssl/privkey.pem
use_x_forwarded_for: true
trusted_proxies:
- 172.30.0.0/16
´´´

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 6, 2023, 10:21 AM

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@pastel coral To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks.
```yaml
example: here
```
Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

plucky trail Dec 6, 2023, 12:50 PM

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Can someone help me to get homeassistant? Im a noob 🤣

humble mirage Dec 6, 2023, 12:56 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/getting-started/

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Start at the very beginning, it's a very good place to start Music

plucky trail Dec 6, 2023, 1:01 PM

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I read that for hours 😅

humble mirage Dec 6, 2023, 1:01 PM

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So... where are you stuck?

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Help us help you

plucky trail Dec 6, 2023, 1:01 PM

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The first step to getting started with Home Assistant is to install it on a device.

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 6, 2023, 1:01 PM

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Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
Is the problem uniform or erratic?
What's the exact error message?
When did it arise?
What exactly don't you "get"?
Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?

plucky trail Dec 6, 2023, 1:01 PM

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Wich device can i install it on ?

humble mirage Dec 6, 2023, 1:02 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation

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Just about any computer, or a virtual machine on a computer, as long as that computer is always on

plucky trail Dec 6, 2023, 1:04 PM

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Thats The problem. The conputer isnt always on. I guess I have to fix some kind of server then

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And tellstick dosnt count as a device i can run it on i guess?

humble mirage Dec 6, 2023, 1:04 PM

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Pi4 (2 GB or higher) or better

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That stick isn't a computer, so no

plucky trail Dec 6, 2023, 1:06 PM

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Raspberry Pi recomended or should i buy anything else?

humble mirage Dec 6, 2023, 1:07 PM

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Well, not recommended, but cheap and works

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Recommended would be some form of small form factor PC from the last decade

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#hardware-archived has a long history of options

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SD cards die with little warning though, so on a Pi use a powered USB hub and an SSD

plucky trail Dec 6, 2023, 1:08 PM

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I rather have something recomended. I will check

urban salmon Dec 6, 2023, 2:52 PM

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Hi All - just cross posting my question from reddit since I saw there was a discord : Any reason for me to go with yellow over green? Just looking to dip my toe in - I'm currently using a Google Home ecosystem and I've got 6 google home speakers and 10 lights (mainly bulbs, but some are plugs with normal bulbs) + a chromecast w/google tv and a Denon AVR with HEOS. The integration of HEOS into google home is terrible which is the main reason I was looking into this.

Bulbs are Cync by GE and plugs are Kasa

I am not looking to install anything on my gaming PC since I don't leave it on all the time, so I was just planning on grabbing a prebuilt from Seeed - any reason to go with yellow over green for my usage?

humble mirage Dec 6, 2023, 2:59 PM

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Short answer, no

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Go with the Green, or almost any small form factor PC from the last decade

urban salmon Dec 6, 2023, 3:06 PM

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ok thanks!

full sable Dec 6, 2023, 5:01 PM

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Trying to restore a backup to a new HA Green that just arrived... uploaded the backup via the web interface and it has been spinning for about an hour. If I open a tab in another browser, I am greeted with the "Welcome" screen asking if I want to create a new home or restore from backup. Is there any way for me to tell if the first attempted restore is still ongoing?

I wouldn't think a 90MB backup file would take so long to complete.

raw hedge Dec 6, 2023, 5:40 PM

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or get an n100 on sale

tall blaze Dec 6, 2023, 6:36 PM

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Has anyone moved from a HAOS based installation to a full container based one. I have HAOS running on an unraid server as a VM and it's working well. I do want to look to move to a non VM based but am just looking to see if anyone has any compared both in terms of responsiveness. Was the VM overhead noticeable. I'm thinking in terms of eg motion sensing / triggering lights responsiveness. I guess its hardware dependent. My server is a core i7 6700k with 32gb ram.

tough copper Dec 6, 2023, 9:44 PM

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Hi new here I cant seem to get the HA to get an ethernet IP its going to the 172's IPs I have tried to get it to renew off of the console but no success. This is a brand new Raspberry PI out of the box.

tough copper Dec 6, 2023, 10:15 PM

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got it figured out i needed to disable IPV6 from the comand line then restart interface.

solid venture Dec 6, 2023, 10:19 PM

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Hi can i install HA on a Atom cpu (32bit) with 1GB ram?

unreal falcon Dec 6, 2023, 10:26 PM

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lately each time I install a new version of HA I run into spaces issues due to the backups created, I know how to increase the VM disk size but how to I increase the disk inside the HA OS? is there any docs for that?

grand pivot Dec 6, 2023, 10:42 PM

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I believe that it will just expand to use it

unreal falcon Dec 6, 2023, 10:43 PM

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yea trying now following what I have found here https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-expand-resize-disk-space-for-haos-vm-on-proxmox/532106/2

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yeah it worked like a charm

placid yew Dec 6, 2023, 11:25 PM

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Hello,

Noob here and I’m trying to get HACS up and running on a newly installed and updated Home Assistant. Following the instructions from a couple of different videos, I’m able to get to the point where I “Submit” my request and the “Waiting for device activation” screen pops up with the 8 digit code at the bottom.

Advanced SSH & Web Terminal (16.0.2) is installed and running.

Using both Edge and Chrome, the 8 digt code is very quickly changing / randomizing and the window errors out in just a couple of seconds. Is there something I’m doing wrong or a missing step?

Thanks in advance for the assistance, I appreciate it!
Tom

grand pivot Dec 6, 2023, 11:27 PM

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are you the one who I pointed to the HACS discord?

placid yew Dec 6, 2023, 11:28 PM

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No, I got myself in this mess all by myself! 🙂

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if you have the link, I'm happy to post the same question over there

grand pivot Dec 6, 2023, 11:29 PM

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https://discord.gg/suUbCH5z

placid yew Dec 6, 2023, 11:57 PM

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Thank you for the help @grand pivot, it's a known issue with the latest version of HA...so I just did a restore to the previous version and will try again.

sterile birch Dec 7, 2023, 1:00 AM

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I attempted to upgrade to 2023.12.0 on a Home Assistant OS installation. Now the home assistant core will not start. I attempted to look at the logs to see what is going on but did not see anything helpful.

raven forge Dec 7, 2023, 1:01 AM

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Please run ha supervisor logs and ha core logs and share their output If you have the SSH addon enabled.

sterile birch Dec 7, 2023, 1:03 AM

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Sadly ssh addon is not enabled.

raven forge Dec 7, 2023, 1:04 AM

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You can also connect a monitor and keyboard to run that on the device directly. Let's start with the home assistant log then.
I assume you configured some kind of access to it? https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#configuring-access-to-files

sterile birch Dec 7, 2023, 1:07 AM

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It is installed I have access via proxmox cli

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https://pasteboard.co/rmnxWmTSJDvX.png

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Those are supervisor logs.

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Looks like it recovered but the upgrade is failing.

raven forge Dec 7, 2023, 1:10 AM

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Ah. Perfect. If you enter login there you get access to the shell. There you can run docker logs -tf hassio_supervisor to tail the supervisor logs.
For the core logs it would be docker logs -tf homeassistant. To not follow and just show the logs you can remove the f or use the commands I shared earlier..

sterile birch Dec 7, 2023, 1:16 AM

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Thanks. Attempting backup again while monitoring the homeassistant logs.

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 7, 2023, 1:30 AM

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@sterile birch I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt

sterile birch Dec 7, 2023, 1:31 AM

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The following is the recent supervisor logs:

23-12-06 18:30:22 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.api] Error on call https://172.30.32.1:8123/api/core/state:
23-12-06 18:30:53 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.api] Error on call https://172.30.32.1:8123/api/core/state:
23-12-06 18:30:54 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.api.middleware.security] /supervisor/logs access from core_ssh

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The upgrade does not look like it completed and the WebUI is not working.

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Upgrade has been running for 24 minutes.

raven forge Dec 7, 2023, 1:51 AM

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If the logs don't progress after 30 minutes or so you could try a reboot or ha supervisor repair

sterile birch Dec 7, 2023, 2:29 AM

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Well I got the UI back but the upgrade failed.

raven forge Dec 7, 2023, 2:40 AM

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Can you share the whole supervisor logs? Something like docker logs -t --since 2h hassio_supervisor
Also see here: <#installation-archived message>

sterile birch Dec 7, 2023, 2:47 AM

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Will do when it fails again.

sterile birch Dec 7, 2023, 3:05 AM

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Core Logs: https://dpaste.org/FPjAV
Supervisor Logs: https://dpaste.org/jTx9o
Thank you for your help.

raven forge Dec 7, 2023, 3:31 AM

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Maybe someone else has an idea but I can't see anything too helpful there. We might need older logs for core.

brazen pendant Dec 7, 2023, 8:57 AM

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i didnt use HA for about a year and now i can't update it (core, OS, addons)
for core and addons it loads the update and than just stops with no message.
for OS it says OSmanager.update is blocked and no supervisor internet connection
anyone can help?

torpid igloo Dec 7, 2023, 9:02 AM

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I posted this on Reddit but figured I would ask here as well:
https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/s/aR19Ir1CUa

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Any thoughts?

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 9:04 AM

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torpid igloo Any thoughts?

#yellow-archived can better help you

chrome onyx Dec 7, 2023, 9:47 AM

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hiya, the web page for hass isn't accessible (8123)
its running in a zvol in truenas was accessible like an hour ago
not too sure what happened, but dose anyone know if there's a way i could get the files out from the zvol to my pcs drive & just re install hass?
or is there a better way to fix it? cus ive been looking around for about an hour and cant find anything

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 9:48 AM

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Presumably you don't have backups then?

chrome onyx Dec 7, 2023, 9:48 AM

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nope sadly

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 9:49 AM

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Ah... so today's learning opportunity then 😉

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Can you get to the logs for it?

chrome onyx Dec 7, 2023, 9:50 AM

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lmao yep, and no, all i have is a vnc connection to its commandline, & im not sure if you can find it from there?

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 9:52 AM

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Look at the log file

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 7, 2023, 9:52 AM

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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language, and consider picking a longer expiry)
http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 9:53 AM

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Share anything relevant ☝️

chrome onyx Dec 7, 2023, 9:53 AM

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how do i get to the log file tho? i dont have the web ui or a file explorer

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 7, 2023, 9:55 AM

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If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

Check the troubleshooting steps
Check your log file - remembering you may need to set logger to info or debug
Explain what the problem you're having is - sharing configuration, errors, and logs

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 9:55 AM

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There's a .log file in the config folder ☝️

chrome onyx Dec 7, 2023, 10:02 AM

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i cant get to the config folder, i dont have the main web ui (8123), the only web ui that work is port 4357, and i dont think its possable to access the files to get it from inside a truenas zvol

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 7, 2023, 10:03 AM

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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

chrome onyx Dec 7, 2023, 10:05 AM

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chrome onyx i cant get to the config folder, i dont have the main web ui (8123), the only we...

this is all i have atm https://imgur.com/a/EaNQhiq , https://imgur.com/jUhKeW0

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 10:11 AM

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Ah, you have Home Assistant OS

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https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#home-assistant-via-the-command-line

chrome onyx Dec 7, 2023, 10:32 AM

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alright, i ran supervisor logs, and i got this, im sorry i cant copy it or scroll up, its not working for some reason https://imgur.com/a/7NhDJXK

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 10:35 AM

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images of text ae horrible

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That said, check the core logs too

raven forge Dec 7, 2023, 10:37 AM

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If you enter login there you can do fancy stuff like this: <#installation-archived message>

chrome onyx Dec 7, 2023, 10:48 AM

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humble mirage That said, check the core logs too

will do, i'll have to do then when next at home in a few hours, can i just reply to that message? or should i send a new one?

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 10:49 AM

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Just post here

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Whoever is around can help you

chrome onyx Dec 7, 2023, 10:49 AM

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will do, thanks so much!

inland cave Dec 7, 2023, 2:18 PM

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hey how you doing guys. im new to HA. can you help me with installing HA on my windows in VM VirtualBox? i followed this video on youtueb "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyaMKgenayQ&ab_channel=FastHowTo"
i managed to run HA on VirtualBox but there is no address in front of "IPV4" section
i switched my network from wifi to cable as mentioned here "https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/windows"

homeassistant.local:8123 is not reachable

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 2:19 PM

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You configured VBox to use bridged networking?

inland cave Dec 7, 2023, 2:31 PM

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humble mirage You configured VBox to use _bridged_ networking?

yes

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 2:32 PM

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And it's bridged with the wired interface?

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That wired interface has (in Windows) an IP from your DHCP server?

raven forge Dec 7, 2023, 2:33 PM

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Share a picture of the VM's details page and the control panel's network page in details mode

inland cave Dec 7, 2023, 2:36 PM

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raven forge Share a picture of the VM's details page and the control panel's network page in...

https://imgur.com/a/5Q7gKjA

inland cave Dec 7, 2023, 2:37 PM

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humble mirage That wired interface has (in Windows) an IP from your DHCP server?

how to findout this?

inland cave Dec 7, 2023, 2:37 PM

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humble mirage And it's bridged with the _wired_ interface?

yes

raven forge Dec 7, 2023, 2:37 PM

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That's not what I asked for

inland cave Dec 7, 2023, 2:39 PM

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raven forge That's not what I asked for

https://imgur.com/a/qpeNiKy this one?

raven forge Dec 7, 2023, 2:39 PM

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You bridged it to WiFi

inland cave Dec 7, 2023, 2:42 PM

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raven forge You bridged it to WiFi

https://imgur.com/a/B6ZQuOk which one should i choose?

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 2:42 PM

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inland cave yes

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 2:42 PM

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inland cave https://imgur.com/a/B6ZQuOk which one should i choose?

Bridged

raven forge Dec 7, 2023, 2:43 PM

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Realtek most likely

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 2:44 PM

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Only one way to find out 😄

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It's certainly not the TAP ones

inland cave Dec 7, 2023, 2:48 PM

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now i have IPV4 "192.168.1.14/24" but its not reachable

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 2:50 PM

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is your network range 192.168.1.x?

inland cave Dec 7, 2023, 2:50 PM

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yes

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 2:50 PM

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Can you ping it from any computer on your network?

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ping 192.168.1.14

inland cave Dec 7, 2023, 2:51 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/VUfPKAH

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 2:52 PM

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Well, now it's alive the install needs to happen

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Come back in 20 minutes and see if it's alive

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It should continue now that you've got it a working connection, but if it doesn't reboot the VM

inland cave Dec 7, 2023, 2:54 PM

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ok ill check in 20 mins

inland cave Dec 7, 2023, 3:25 PM

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it not working. tnx mate ill continue tomorrow

rustic shadow Dec 7, 2023, 3:31 PM

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I did the same exact set up on a spare POP OS machine and all the issues just disappeared. It’s a 100% Synology issue.

teal rapids Dec 7, 2023, 3:44 PM

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right channel for this? Second time in a row I've gotten a Failed to Reboot message after switching to USB Boot + USB 3.0 NVME drive. Tried to reboot, got Insufficient Permissions, then tried again and got Errno 5: I/O Error -- had to do a hard reboot and everything went back to normal. No memory or CPU spikes.

normal elk Dec 7, 2023, 4:14 PM

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after update Core
2023.12.0 I have error in command line

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 4:15 PM

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See the recent discussion in #general-archived - you've been ignoring the breaking change for 6 months

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#general-archived message onwards

dawn onyx Dec 7, 2023, 4:44 PM

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Hello, I installed Home Assistant in a Docker container according to the instructions on your website. According to Portainer everything is fine. However, I can't access it via IP or homeassistant.local. I use a raspberry pi 5 with 64bit raspbian. I can't find any error ... HELP 😉

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 4:47 PM

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Well, homeassistant.local only works if the host is called homeassistant

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The IP will work if HA is running and you used host mode networking

raven forge Dec 7, 2023, 4:55 PM

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And mDNS decides to not be funky. Some people also use .local as their DNS suffix. Haven't looked into how that behaves though.

grand pivot Dec 7, 2023, 4:56 PM

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those people are...wrong

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 4:56 PM

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Very very wrong

empty bloom Dec 7, 2023, 4:58 PM

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what's wrong with that

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(Serious question)

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 4:59 PM

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.local is explicitly for mDNS

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By using it for actual DNS you break both

empty bloom Dec 7, 2023, 5:01 PM

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Ok, so then for things like ESPHome you use mDNS but then whatever else, you call out the normal domain?

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Looking for best practices here, I'm no networking guru

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 5:02 PM

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Use .home or .lan for your home network, or home.example.org if you have your own domain

empty bloom Dec 7, 2023, 5:03 PM

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Yeah, that's all set. I'm jsut curious about the mDNS crap / .local and when to use it

sand frost Dec 7, 2023, 5:46 PM

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Okay, I have an issue. I installed Gnome with by debian host for HA, but every time I reboot, if I don't log into the GUI, the system sleeps in a few minutes. Any idea how to disable that (or just outright disable Gnome from auto-booting, and allow me to spin it up if I need it instead?

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I THINK that the system going to sleep is what's borking my zigbee devices. I had them working last night, then the systm went to sleep, and when I woke it up, all was broken again

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 6:23 PM

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Just uninstall Gnome?

torn anvil Dec 7, 2023, 6:40 PM

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Could someone sanity check the process I use for updating docker compose containers? which command(s) do yall use?

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 6:40 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/container/

torn anvil Dec 7, 2023, 6:40 PM

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docker compose up --force-recreate --build -d

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 6:40 PM

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docker compose pull homeassistant
docker compose up -d

torn anvil Dec 7, 2023, 6:40 PM

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this is what I use

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 6:40 PM

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Those two are the official way from Docker themselves

sand frost Dec 7, 2023, 6:41 PM

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@humble mirage is it really just that easy? that'll stop it from sleeping? lol

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 6:41 PM

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Probably

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You don't need a local GUI on a server

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Otherwise Google Debian disable power saving

sand frost Dec 7, 2023, 6:41 PM

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okidoke. thank you

old pivot Dec 7, 2023, 6:42 PM

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Don't know if this is the right place but I'm having some problems installing the tuya smart plugs.

All goes well until I want to get my key, then the tuya developer platform asks me to bind my phone number, don't know if I should be giving my phone number....

humble mirage Dec 7, 2023, 6:46 PM

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That'd be #integrations-archived - but that's the joys of cloud platforms

chrome coral Dec 7, 2023, 7:22 PM

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I have some Google assistant issues. Setup via duckdns, port forwarded to nginx, which handles subdomain.
Sometimes Google assistant works rock solid but sometimes, like this evening it starts to work really unreliably - respond only to like 5% of requests. Other 95% responds as home assistant is not available. I can reach HA from browser and app (using duckdns). Local fulfillment is configured, but neiher force local or force default helped this evening. The only solution which worked is ubiquity dream machine router restart.
How to solve such issue? Why local fulfillment is not helping? Is duckdns to blame? Is my router to blame?
Edit: down again

crude inlet Dec 7, 2023, 7:43 PM

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@chrome coral #voice-assistants-archived , but are your Internet and Local URLs set on the Settings > System > Network page?

chrome coral Dec 7, 2023, 7:45 PM

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crude inlet <@499171888371728386> <#646814454063038466> , but are your Internet and Local UR...

Internet part address is set pointing to full address with https and duckdns while local network is automatic. That's bad?

crude inlet Dec 7, 2023, 7:46 PM

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try setting it manually to http://your.ha.ip.address:8123

chrome coral Dec 7, 2023, 7:50 PM

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crude inlet try setting it manually to http://your.ha.ip.address:8123

Done and restarting. Thank you, will try that and fallback to voice assistants channel if still won't work

wide warren Dec 7, 2023, 11:05 PM

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I have just migrated my HA VM from one physical server to another one, it is identical (copy of the drive) with identical setup, including MAC address for physical interfaces. However, nothing (integrations) seems to be working. Did I miss something ?

raven forge Dec 8, 2023, 1:40 AM

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Probably. How exactly did you migrate?

copper steppe Dec 8, 2023, 3:51 AM

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How did you preserve the MAC?

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Check the error logs 🙂

crude cargo Dec 8, 2023, 3:55 AM

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Hey everyone, I'm having trouble getting HA to show up on my network. I I went from a nighthawk AX6 to DECO X20 mesh system. It was working on the nighthawk but with the X20, I can't access the home page.

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It's on a raspberry pi 4

raven forge Dec 8, 2023, 3:58 AM

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How is is connected to the network?
Is is configured via DHCP or?
What does it say when you connect a keyboard and monitor to it?
What does it say if you enter network info?

crude cargo Dec 8, 2023, 4:05 AM

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It is connected via ethernet.

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I don't know how to check if it is on DHCP
I haven't connected a monitor to it cus I don't have a micro HDMI right now. We're in the process of unpacking from a move

raven forge Dec 8, 2023, 4:08 AM

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DHCP is sort of the default. Unless you've given it a static ip the pi should ask for one from the router. You can try scanning the network range with nmap or fing and check your router's DHCP lease list. I'd recommend getting a hold of that adapter though. It might also be accessible at http://homeassistant.local:8123/ or http://homeassistant.local:4357/

crude cargo Dec 8, 2023, 4:20 AM

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I'll get that adapter and get into the pi. What should I be looking for? Also I believe the router is configured via DHCP

raven forge Dec 8, 2023, 4:22 AM

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You want to check/share the main screen and what addresses it shows. It looks something like this https://community-assets.home-assistant.io/original/4X/b/5/6/b56b931fcc819ca4a781162ddebf769a939de2db.png
You should then run network info and share that as well.

crude cargo Dec 8, 2023, 4:31 AM

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Okay sounds good. I'll get it connected and look into it

dawn onyx Dec 8, 2023, 7:39 AM

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humble mirage The IP will work _if_ HA is running _and_ you used `host` mode networking

i used host networking and used the right name

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 8:05 AM

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i used host networking and used the

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 8:20 AM

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I can not acces the log in page. Error 404

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404: not Found

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 8:20 AM

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Did it work before?

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 8:20 AM

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yes last night

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 8:20 AM

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If so, what did you change since it last worked?

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Upgraded HA?

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 8:21 AM

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No, I did nothing

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 8:22 AM

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Also, are you using a proxy (like NGINX) to access HA, or going directly to the IP and port?

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 8:22 AM

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I was going directly to the IP and port

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what to do?

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 8:23 AM

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Are you using Home Assistant OS, or a native Docker (Container) install?

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 8:24 AM

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Im using a Home assistant OS in my raspi 3 B+

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and im using ethernet cable to connect to the network using my raspi

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 8:25 AM

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What if you try port 4357 rather than 8123?

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 8:25 AM

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let me check

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it did not lead me to login page instead it shows the home assistant server

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observer*

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 8:27 AM

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Good

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What does that say?

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 8:28 AM

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Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 8:29 AM

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Did you set up any SSH add-on?

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 8:31 AM

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I think I did not.

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I used raspberry pi imager and just installed the HA Os

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 8:32 AM

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Do you have a keyboard and monitor you can connect?

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 8:32 AM

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I have

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Will I connect the raspi to monitor and keyboard?

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how can I set up the SSH add-on?

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 8:37 AM

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You'd have to have done that before it broke 😉

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For now, plug in the keyboard and monitor

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You may have to power cycle the Pi to get it to recognise the monitor

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 8:38 AM

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ok. I will update you once im done

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I connected it

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 8:49 AM

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And?

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 8:50 AM

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i am in the HA command prompt

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 8:51 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#home-assistant-via-the-command-line

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You can type login to get a full prompt

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But you can also run all the ha commands

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The simplest one at this point is possibly host reboot (or ha host reboot if you typed login)

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 8:53 AM

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ok will try

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what code should I type first?

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 8:55 AM

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None

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 8:58 AM

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Should I just type log in?

iron schooner Dec 8, 2023, 9:00 AM

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Why there is no good documentation to configure https for local-only Home-Assistant-installations? (you need that for voice)
If you type https or ssl ino the search of the search on home-assistant.io there is nonsens.
Google has some forum entries, but every entry is incomplete or has some implicit information not written down.

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 9:01 AM

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wind vault Should I just type log in?

Type host reboot

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 9:02 AM

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iron schooner Why there is no good documentation to configure **https** for **local-only** Hom...

Because that's a non-trivial thing, setting up a CA, getting all devices to trust it (good luck on that), etc

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Getting your own trusted CA on mobile devices is hard if not impossible

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That's by design

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Setting up a legit SSL cert, that's easy

iron schooner Dec 8, 2023, 9:05 AM

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humble mirage Because that's a non-trivial thing, setting up a CA, getting all devices to trus...

a local-only HA is so common used... so voice is not for them....

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 9:05 AM

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Voice ... in a browser/mobile app

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Using dedicated hardware ... sure

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That's a browser limitation, that's all

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 9:07 AM

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mindblown

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 9:07 AM

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If you really want to do it in a browser:

Buy a doman (home.example.net)
Create a sub-domain that resolves to your HA's LAN address (my-ha.home.example.net)
Use DNS-01 validation to create an SSL cert from LetsEncrypt/ZeroSSL
Use that sub-doman for voice

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 9:07 AM

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do you have tutorial video

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 9:09 AM

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For what?

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Typing host reboot?

iron schooner Dec 8, 2023, 9:10 AM

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humble mirage Voice ... in a browser/mobile app

but voice in the app would be really usefull...

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 9:10 AM

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So take that up with #voice-assistants-archived

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Where they'll pretty much tell you what has already been said

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Again, this is a browser limitation not HA's fault

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Or anything HA can control

iron schooner Dec 8, 2023, 9:12 AM

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my question is: why not document, what seems to be common knowledge within the community?

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 9:12 AM

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humble mirage Typing `host reboot`?

host not found

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 9:13 AM

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Then you typed login already

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Type ha host reboot

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 9:13 AM

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iron schooner my question is: why not document, what seems to be common knowledge within the c...

Ask the folks in #voice-assistants-archived

iron schooner Dec 8, 2023, 9:16 AM

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they'll say "ask some where else... that is not voice specific"

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i had asked, how to do that a couple of weeks ago...

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 9:18 AM

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Well, you can take my summary above and turn it into a guide for others if you want - no royalties required 😛

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 9:20 AM

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is it needed to connect the LAN cable while working?

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 9:20 AM

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Yes

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How else will it work?

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 9:20 AM

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omg

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 9:20 AM

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No internet, no work

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Computers also need power, just in case that wasn't obvious too 😛

iron schooner Dec 8, 2023, 9:23 AM

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I shouldn't write a documentation, if i haven't got working for me...
I'll give up that topic...

wind vault Dec 8, 2023, 9:30 AM

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maybe Ill just do it tomorrow im using my tv and my router is far, the LAN cable cannot reach

raw coyote Dec 8, 2023, 11:58 AM

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sorry @humble mirage, is there anything i could do?

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im checking logs it says networkmanager is up and connected

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 8, 2023, 12:04 PM

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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language, and consider picking a longer expiry)
http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 12:04 PM

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Share the logs and then somebody can help you

raw coyote Dec 8, 2023, 12:08 PM

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humble mirage Share the logs and then somebody can help you

https://dpaste.org/jz6Cc
apologies, above are the logs for supervisor and host

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 12:08 PM

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raw coyote https://dpaste.org/jz6Cc apologies, above are the logs for supervisor and host

raw coyote Dec 8, 2023, 12:09 PM

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Ive looked through forums and ive already changed the dns to clouldflare but it still doesnt work

humble mirage Dec 8, 2023, 12:10 PM

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Somebody who knows HAOS will be along at some point to help you

lyric lodge Dec 8, 2023, 5:17 PM

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For some reason i cant spin up my VM with HAOS anymore... i use virtualbox on ubuntu. I ran some updates for ubuntu, shut down the VM, rebooted the PC, then tried to start the VM, and it gets stuck in a loop of Starting Home Assistant CLI and Stopping Home assisnt CLI.

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untill the screen just ends up black

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i cant get into the shell. I cant reach it through the web... how screwed am i?

fallen saddle Dec 8, 2023, 6:00 PM

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Sooooo, my Raspberry pi 5 is on the way, does HAOS already support it?😅

empty bloom Dec 8, 2023, 6:02 PM

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No, not yet

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planned for Q1 2024

crude inlet Dec 8, 2023, 6:03 PM

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https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/pull/2914

empty bloom Dec 8, 2023, 6:03 PM

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planned for that PR 🤣

fiery socket Dec 8, 2023, 7:58 PM

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pleas enlighten me, if my install runs on MariaDB, does the HA version 12 longterm history update, no_purge apply to me too or only for sql lite users?

crude inlet Dec 8, 2023, 8:11 PM

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long term statistics are in their own db

chilly forge Dec 8, 2023, 8:16 PM

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I just installed HAOS on a VM running on my esxi box and haven't configured anything yet. I can access the 8123 webui right after boot and then I'm unable to connect to it. The Observer shows everything green. Supervisor log shows a bunch of Error on call http://172.30.32.1:8123/api/core/state: Cannot connect to host 172.30.32.1:8123 ssl:False followed by Home Assistant has crashed.

calm geyser Dec 9, 2023, 1:35 AM

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Does anybody know if you can install xcpng client on the HA vmdk VM?

raven forge Dec 9, 2023, 4:15 AM

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No but is this what you're looking for? https://community.home-assistant.io/t/add-xen-guest-tools-package-to-hass-os/219573

vocal helm Dec 9, 2023, 9:56 AM

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Hey pals, may I ask what could cause ha network info output supervisor_internet: false? In the meanwhile I can no longer receive HA core and supervisor updates. I did set up proxy on the main gateway router, but other devices works well [HA supervised on Debian 12 kernel 5.10]

storm stump Dec 9, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Does anyone here use AppDaemon with MQTT plugin? I need some help with getting the plugin recognized. Not sure where I'm going wrong

rugged nacelle Dec 9, 2023, 10:53 PM

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Where have I gone wrong?

I am fixing the smartthings integration, so I used HACS to install my custom component but I don't hit bkpts in the custom dir?

chilly forge Dec 10, 2023, 5:43 AM

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chilly forge I just installed HAOS on a VM running on my esxi box and haven't configured anyt...

any ideas what could be broken?

wind vault Dec 10, 2023, 1:28 PM

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I started all over again with the installation of HA to my Raspi 3 B+. Now, this one came up, [supervisor.host.sound] Can't update PulseAudio data: Failed to connect to pulseaudio server

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@humble mirage

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 2:16 PM

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@wind vault

wind vault Dec 10, 2023, 2:17 PM

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hello

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Its OK now Im in the lovelace dashboard

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I need your help for my project, its called smart home energy management system and I want to control light bulbs that will be connected to the GPIO pins of my raspberry

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 2:19 PM

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Ok? And?

wind vault Dec 10, 2023, 2:20 PM

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So, are there things should I do before I connect it to my raspberry.

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Im a begginer

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 2:21 PM

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For a start, don't connect it to the Pi

wind vault Dec 10, 2023, 2:21 PM

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ok

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 2:21 PM

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HA removed GPIO support years ago

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Use an ESP

wind vault Dec 10, 2023, 2:21 PM

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ESPhome?

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 2:22 PM

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Sure

verbal sentinel Dec 10, 2023, 2:34 PM

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Hello im trying to install Home Assistant Supervised in a docker container. Should this work on ubuntu 23.10? Or do i need to install Debian 12 OS?

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 2:34 PM

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Please actually read the Supervised requirements

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Please also don't use Supervised 😉

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https://github.com/home-assistant/architecture/blob/master/adr/0014-home-assistant-supervised.md

brittle sail Dec 10, 2023, 2:37 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-austin-powers-gif-3817029

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In gif form^

verbal sentinel Dec 10, 2023, 2:42 PM

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well i don understand "should only be used if one is an expert in managing a Linux operating system, Docker and networking". So i guess there is no add-ons for me.

brittle sail Dec 10, 2023, 2:42 PM

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Either use docker container or haos (installed directly on a device or in a vm it doesn’t matter)

verbal sentinel Dec 10, 2023, 2:44 PM

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yeah, may try installing haos in a vm on my server then.

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 2:48 PM

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HAOS in a VM is the sane way

near mulch Dec 10, 2023, 3:36 PM

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hello please can someone help me?

final socket Dec 10, 2023, 3:39 PM

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near mulch hello please can someone help me?

Someone probably can if you actually tell us what you need help with.

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 10, 2023, 3:41 PM

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Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
Is the problem uniform or erratic?
What's the exact error message?
When did it arise?
What exactly don't you "get"?
Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?

wind vault Dec 10, 2023, 4:32 PM

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are there any add-ons should I install first before I dive in automation?

rare hill Dec 10, 2023, 4:33 PM

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wind vault are there any add-ons should I install first before I dive in automation?

"Home Assistant Google Drive Backup"

wind vault Dec 10, 2023, 4:36 PM

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Already done...

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What setups should I do next?

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 4:39 PM

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Whatever suits your needs

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Other than backups there's no "one true path"

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Oh, except maybe one of the SSH add-ons

wind vault Dec 10, 2023, 4:43 PM

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what is that SSH add-ons

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 4:45 PM

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#add-ons-archived can help you there, but they're a very useful way of getting access to HA when you've broken it

serene remnant Dec 10, 2023, 5:43 PM

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ATM I am re setting up my installation of HA from a RPI3 (HA OS)
I have user experience of linux and OSX (very basic command line stuff)
I have got a Asus Vivo VC60 8GB ram, 2C4T CPU.

What installation would you recommend?

I have reimported backup on HAOS from pi and realised a lot of things like bluetooth, zigbee, DNS need reconfiguring. This was the whole ideal idea of using HA OS, HW goes down, reimport backup on new HW and happily keep going.

What would your recommended setup be? HA OS? docker? or even something like Kubernetes for super easy no down time?

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 5:47 PM

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Well, K8s is only for the experienced

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Docker if you're comfortable (or want to become comfortable) with Linux on the command line

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However, the HAOS restore should have included all that

serene remnant Dec 10, 2023, 5:48 PM

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its new HW

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nvm, dns works now

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 5:51 PM

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After a restore you often have to reboot the whole system

serene remnant Dec 10, 2023, 5:51 PM

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but still, if I do something like docker/portainer, is it easy to migrate to a more advanced setup like kuberneties in the future?

serene remnant Dec 10, 2023, 5:51 PM

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humble mirage After a restore you often have to reboot the whole system

have a couple times

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 5:51 PM

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Sure, though ... "advanced" is relative, and many integrations won't work

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K8s should only be considered if you're actually a K8s expert already, and even then probably not

serene remnant Dec 10, 2023, 5:55 PM

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humble mirage K8s should only be considered if you're actually a K8s expert already, and even ...

ok, so what would you recomend? docker with poertainer?
what do you mean by many integrations wont work?

brittle sail Dec 10, 2023, 5:56 PM

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serene remnant ATM I am re setting up my installation of HA from a RPI3 (HA OS) I have user exp...

nothing should've needed reconfiguring except possibly an #add-ons-archived which isnt currently saving info to the right spot. they've recently changed that. if your zigbee needed to be reconfigured then you were probably using USBTTY0 or something instead of the full dev/serial id

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a reboot after a successful haos restore is required too like he said above

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 6:03 PM

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serene remnant ok, so what would you recomend? docker with poertainer? what do you mean by many...

Either Docker (with Compose) or HAOS

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HA on Docker is required to use host networking (or if you're strange a macvlan bridge will work), due to networking

reef totem Dec 10, 2023, 9:21 PM

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Hi, I would have a question with networking. I am hosting home assistant docker installation. I am currently using network_mode=host because it is the only way to connect to UPNP/DLNA devices. but I don't like doing this because it means that every other side-services for home assistant, like zigbee2mqtt or music assistant, need to be in host mode too or they can't connect to HA. The best solution I imagine would be to have "upnp relay" that would be the only container in host mode, and able to communicate with HA in bridge mode using a single opened port. Does such container exist ?

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 9:22 PM

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Ummm, no they don't

reef totem Dec 10, 2023, 9:22 PM

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(just noticed the messages above was precisely about host mode)

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 9:23 PM

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What makes you think that everything else has to be in host mode?

reef totem Dec 10, 2023, 9:26 PM

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humble mirage What makes you think that everything else has to be in host mode?

I said it wrong. I mean that other containers need to expose ports for HA to be able to connect to them. mqtt need to expose its port to the whole local network for example, and I would like to avoid that. I would prefer it to be only accessible within the docker virtual network.

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 9:33 PM

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https://docs.docker.com/compose/networking/#link-containers may do what you want, I'm unsure

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Of course, Z2M only needs to talk to Mosquitto

reef totem Dec 10, 2023, 9:49 PM

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humble mirage Of course, Z2M only needs to talk to Mosquitto

you mean this could allow me to link HA and mqtt without exposing mqtt port ?

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(on upnp side, it's probably more complicated. If you haven't heard of any upnp relay container, there probably isn't any then)

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 9:49 PM

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Well, not that, but the other link, yes

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 9:50 PM

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reef totem you mean this could allow me to link HA and mqtt without exposing mqtt port ?

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And UPnP relays are just going to fuck things up

reef totem Dec 10, 2023, 9:50 PM

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humble mirage

ouch, sorry

reef totem Dec 10, 2023, 9:51 PM

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humble mirage Well, not that, but the other link, yes

z2m and mqtt are already linked as they are on the same virtual docker network

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so maybe what this feature does is just creating a new network (it can be very useful for multi container services though, I will try that)

humble mirage Dec 10, 2023, 9:53 PM

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You can certainly attach containers to multiple Docker networks

serene remnant Dec 11, 2023, 1:26 AM

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I have decided to try out docked in a VM on my pc first.

When installing docker on Linux, what should I use as the underlying system?
Is there a dedicated docker Linux distro (I found 3, all deprecated)
Or just go with Ubuntu core?

manic bane Dec 11, 2023, 2:04 AM

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serene remnant I have decided to try out docked in a VM on my pc first. When installing docker...

Debian is one of the more popular options

limber summit Dec 11, 2023, 3:11 AM

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I would like to get this running: https://github.com/robert-friedland/ha-bedjet

The installation instructions presented are broken

I just installed Home Assistant on an old raspberry pi. Can someone give me a tutorial that might work or offer some advice?

fringe gorge Dec 11, 2023, 3:56 AM

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I unable instal hacs

manic bane Dec 11, 2023, 4:04 AM

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fringe gorge I unable instal hacs

We need more information
How are you unable

manic bane Dec 11, 2023, 4:05 AM

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limber summit I would like to get this running: https://github.com/robert-friedland/ha-bedjet ...

The hacs install instructions seem correct

grand pivot Dec 11, 2023, 4:06 AM

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manic bane We need more information How are you unable

Hands fell off

serene remnant Dec 11, 2023, 4:25 AM

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manic bane Debian is one of the more popular options

What version?

manic bane Dec 11, 2023, 4:25 AM

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serene remnant What version?

The latest, debian 12

manic lantern Dec 11, 2023, 6:04 AM

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yall have ur homeassistant on a separate vlan with iot devices?

pastel coral Dec 11, 2023, 9:06 AM

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good morning..anybody can help please; yesterday may HA crashed at 23h... I have last backup up from 21H+-; I try restore the system in configurations dashboard; but now I dont have acces to nothing..

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I only have access in the VM to command line of HA

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Is it possible to restore by command line?

raven forge Dec 11, 2023, 9:07 AM

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You should reboot after a restore. For CLI backup see here:

pastel coral Dec 11, 2023, 9:07 AM

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rebbot in command line?

raven forge Dec 11, 2023, 9:09 AM

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I think it was ha host reboot. Check ha help host

pastel coral Dec 11, 2023, 9:14 AM

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raven forge I think it was `ha host reboot`. Check `ha help host`

ok Thank! I restar the VM and now work!

serene remnant Dec 11, 2023, 1:14 PM

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I found a very decent guide ( I hope) for setting up HA docker.

I am questioning the point of this step though:
Maria and influxDB containers
https://sequr.be/blog/2022/09/home-assistant-container-part-3-mariadb-and-influxdb/

Is there any point for a normal user in changing the db from anything other than internal?

ruby void Dec 11, 2023, 2:43 PM

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I have two SmartWings Blinds which I specified compatable with Apple HomeKit. They were easy to set up and work fine in HomeKit. I cannot figure out how to get them integrated into Home Assistant. Any suggestions appreciated.

grand pivot Dec 11, 2023, 3:38 PM

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serene remnant I found a very decent guide ( I hope) for setting up HA docker. I am questioni...

Maybe in 2022, when that article was published, it made sense to use MariaDB, but not now.

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InfluxDB depends on whether you have a use case for it

hardy rock Dec 11, 2023, 3:46 PM

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hello, I have already installed HA several times with hacs (docker) and this is the first time that when I download hacs and launch it I do not have the integration, interface, add-on modules tabs. somebody knows ? is this due to an update?

rain saffron Dec 11, 2023, 3:48 PM

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im installing HA on a proxmox server is it better to use a separate VM and it by itself or add it to my docker vm

raven forge Dec 11, 2023, 3:52 PM

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I recommend the docker installation method to anyone docker savvy. Since you already run docker you fit that criteria.

grand pivot Dec 11, 2023, 4:04 PM

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hardy rock hello, I have already installed HA several times with hacs (docker) and this is ...

It's due to the fact that you enabled Experimental Mode. I suggest just leaving it that way and using it

hardy rock Dec 11, 2023, 4:15 PM

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grand pivot It's due to the fact that you enabled Experimental Mode. I suggest just leaving...

It’s not that

grand pivot Dec 11, 2023, 4:15 PM

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ok. sure sounds like it

hardy rock Dec 11, 2023, 4:17 PM

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Oh yea I just erase cookies and it was good ! Thanks !

rain saffron Dec 11, 2023, 5:52 PM

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raven forge I recommend the docker installation method to anyone docker savvy. Since you alr...

may i ask what the benefits of running it in docker is compared to its own VM?

raven forge Dec 11, 2023, 5:56 PM

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Freedom. HAOS is opinionated and restrictive and just kinda unnecessary if you already use docker.

rain saffron Dec 11, 2023, 6:15 PM

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raven forge Freedom. HAOS is opinionated and restrictive and just kinda unnecessary if you a...

ok fare enough

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im just looking for the most stable way to do it

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before i get it fully configured the way i want and then realize that doesnt work

frosty otter Dec 11, 2023, 9:08 PM

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Any opinions on using podman insted of Docker? I'm not too fond of Docker.

rain saffron Dec 11, 2023, 9:34 PM

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can i run a zigbee and zwave dongle at the same time?

grand pivot Dec 11, 2023, 9:35 PM

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Sure. They're unrelated

rain saffron Dec 11, 2023, 9:41 PM

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so i would just pass both the usb ports through to the docker container i have HA running in?

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this is good news

fathom dirge Dec 11, 2023, 10:03 PM

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Hey folks, I am trying to set up my HA instance (running in virtualbox) and set it up to be accessible from my Nginx reverse proxy.

I started off at the page for the http integration which includes a section titled "Reverse Proxy" explaining how I would need to enable two options in order to do this: use_x_forwarded_for (set to True) and then trusted_proxies, set to a list of IPs from which is will accept proxy requests - I've set this to the local IP of my homelab. This homelab runs both the Nginx proxy server AND the VM containing Home Assistant, if it matters. But I gave it the same IP that I use to access the server from my personal computer.

When I add the appropriate lines to configuration.yaml (virtually copy-pasted from the page linked above), I am unable to restart it. It complains with the following error:
The system cannot restart because the configuration is not valid: Invalid config for 'http' at configuration.yaml, line 12: some but not all values in the same group of inclusion 'proxy' 'http-><proxy>', got None``
Line 12 is the line containing the http: header, beneath which my changes are added.

I am unsure what I am doing wrong, and I am struggling to find resources online about this issue. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this for me.

grand pivot Dec 11, 2023, 10:09 PM

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You gotta share what you have

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Trying to describe it isn't helping

fathom dirge Dec 11, 2023, 10:11 PM

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Here is the configuration.yaml:

# Loads default set of integrations. Do not remove.
default_config:

# Load frontend themes from the themes folder
frontend:
  themes: !include_dir_merge_named themes

automation: !include automations.yaml
script: !include scripts.yaml
scene: !include scenes.yaml
http:
    use_x_fowarded_for: true
    trusted_proxies:
        - 10.0.0.64```
All i've done is add the http block at the bottom.

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That is how the docs say I should do it

grand pivot Dec 11, 2023, 10:24 PM

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You're using 4 space indentation rather than the conventional 2 spaces, so I recommend changing that

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I also wonder if you're using tabs

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and you have a typo: use_x_fowarded_for

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You can just copy/paste things and then change to meet your needs if you aren't familiar with YAML. Otherwise, you'll end up making mistakes like these

quasi wedge Dec 11, 2023, 10:43 PM

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hey guys, not sure if this is the right channel or not but i'm having some issues and can't figure out what the logs are trying to tell me about it

my country has access to fuel data that i've got into HA using rest but for some reason most of the time when restarting HA it fails to load the rest sensor i made

here's the error i'm getting: https://hastebin.com/share/xoyasukama.sql

this is in my config.yaml (the rest call needs coords and i found a text file that i'm using to convert suburbs into coords, which is imported as a sensor here): https://hastebin.com/share/fulajezowa.yaml

then i've got a rest.yaml, which i've included in my config.yaml (using rest: !include rest.yaml): https://hastebin.com/share/opaposijik.csharp

and lastly i have a custom template thingy called suburbCoords.jinja which is what i use to convert a postcode into a coord string to use in the call: https://hastebin.com/share/wutozujeyu.csharp

does anyone know what i've done wrong and why the error keeps happening? most of the time that error will show up, but every now and then (maybe 1 restart in 10), it works perfectl fine and i don't have any issues, and i'm very new to HA so aren't sure how to dig deeper or read the logs more?

fathom dirge Dec 11, 2023, 11:12 PM

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grand pivot and you have a typo: `use_x_fowarded_for`

This was it lmao. Can't believe I missed that. Appreciate the help!

zealous cedar Dec 12, 2023, 12:59 PM

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I'm running haos in VM on VMware. I often get page cannot be reached on the client side after a while. The windows pc does not sleep. Anything I can check to see why the VM is not responding randomly?

crimson nymph Dec 12, 2023, 2:34 PM

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For a long time I have been unable to see available updates for HA os/core in the UI. They show when I run ha su available_updates, but never in the UI. Any idea why? Did I install something incorrectly at some point?

fading dock Dec 12, 2023, 3:14 PM

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I want to install Frigate in Docker using this tutorial: https://www.homeautomationguy.io/blog/running-frigate-on-proxmox. Next up would be HA in either a container or VM. Which would be best? I'll want to link the two at some point.

stoic jewel Dec 12, 2023, 5:46 PM

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I upgraded Core to 2023 12.0 and these messages stopped.

gritty breach Dec 12, 2023, 6:23 PM

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Power out - now booting into rescue mode .. any way out ?

raven forge Dec 12, 2023, 6:25 PM

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Run docker ps and check logs via ha supervisor logs

fallen saddle Dec 12, 2023, 7:41 PM

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There's something working for the RPI5! https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/discussions/2844#discussioncomment-7831944

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I installed it and it's working, I don't know how stable it is but it's really cool to at least see progress and something that's working.

serene remnant Dec 12, 2023, 7:48 PM

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attempting to get duckdns and certificates work in docker.
I have run into the issue with Nginx Proxy Manager only allowing to link to non host network containers. is there any way around this?
what should I be using for duckdns and certificates in docker?
solved

amber iron Dec 12, 2023, 8:07 PM

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with the new HA history, i can remove purge_keep_days (if im understanding correctly, it already has saved the entire history of all devices at 1 hour intervals?), but if i want attribute history, i'd still need to use influxdb for that. am i understanding that correctly?

unkempt vortex Dec 12, 2023, 8:50 PM

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After update from 2023.11 (works ok) to 2023.12 all my templates are broken
Looks system can´t load any of template (sensors, switches.......). I cant find anything about it
So I tried to delete every packages, and copy only one template sensor to configuration.yaml. Still the same error
"Error importing config platform template: cannot import name "async_log_exception" from "homeassistant.config" (/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/config.py)
weird is, than in safe mode, templates are ok
https://dpaste.org/v4vU3

zenith shard Dec 12, 2023, 9:07 PM

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anyone happy to help ?

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not for 1 but more systems running

upbeat glen Dec 12, 2023, 9:18 PM

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I bought this adapter to connect to the raspberry pi together with an ssd. What do I have to do to make it work? I would like to keep the operating system on the sd and use the ssd as storage for media

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Cavo USB C SATA 3

past kernel Dec 12, 2023, 10:29 PM

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New HA installation - 1st time setup

vital ibex Dec 12, 2023, 10:30 PM

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This is an update Q, not an installation Q, but it seems like this is where it makes the most sense (other than general)? HA Core is failing to update after (in the instance when I gave it the longest before rebooting) 12+ hours - it just keeps saying it's "Installing". Any suggestions for what to try (other than rebooting or waiting)? Thanks.

grand pivot Dec 12, 2023, 11:14 PM

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Review the supervisor logs, assuming your running HAOS

brittle mountain Dec 12, 2023, 11:29 PM

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Failed install on a rPI4 HA OS https://dpaste.org/Otnwd

brittle mountain Dec 12, 2023, 11:42 PM

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brittle mountain Failed install on a rPI4 HA OS https://dpaste.org/Otnwd

I think it was the SD card.

tough robin Dec 13, 2023, 12:39 AM

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heylo everyone, hopefully qq on setting up a static IP. My internet provider doesnt offer static IPs unless i upgrade to a different plan. In that case, am I essentially unable to set that up?

grand pivot Dec 13, 2023, 12:49 AM

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What is your goal? Remote access to your HA instance?

manic bane Dec 13, 2023, 12:52 AM

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You don't need a static IP for remotely accessing any services at home
Just a publicly reachable IP if you want to directly self host, or happy to use any other service for it as a workaround

tough robin Dec 13, 2023, 1:09 AM

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hm ok, my goal was to basically set the static IP so I know for sure which ip address my device (home assistant) is always using.

tough robin Dec 13, 2023, 1:14 AM

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manic bane You don't need a static IP for remotely accessing any services at home Just a pu...

Is there a way to tell which publicly reachable IP home assistant is using? Currently, Im just accessing from http://homeassistant.local:8123 so I may just be missing where the IP can be used.

manic bane Dec 13, 2023, 1:31 AM

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tough robin hm ok, my goal was to basically set the static IP so I know for sure which ip ad...

Do you mean locally? Or publicly accessed?

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So far you're mixing up two things

tough robin Dec 13, 2023, 1:37 AM

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For now I'll just focus on locally. Essentially, trying to access HA via something like this 0.0.0.0:8123 instead of through DNS ( http://homeassistant.local:8123/). I will eventually tho like to access it remotely. Hopefully this makes sense.

crude inlet Dec 13, 2023, 1:38 AM

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Yes, it has an ip or it would not be accessible using the host name. You can find it on your router, or on your Settings > System > network page in HA

tough robin Dec 13, 2023, 1:42 AM

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crude inlet Yes, it has an ip or it would not be accessible using the host name. You can fin...

Thanks for the input. So i did try that and I get the "The connection has timed out" response, which i assumed happened b/c my IP ranges dynamically change? I could be wrong but was reading up that would be a reason to want to set a static IP when you first set up HA

crude inlet Dec 13, 2023, 1:42 AM

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you tried which?

tough robin Dec 13, 2023, 1:43 AM

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setting the IP I find in my Settings > System > network page

crude inlet Dec 13, 2023, 1:44 AM

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are you there now?

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you should reboot after setting the static address (not a restart of ha)

tough robin Dec 13, 2023, 1:45 AM

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yes, currently set to auto under IPv4

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ah ok

crude inlet Dec 13, 2023, 1:45 AM

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you have the /24 at the end ?

tough robin Dec 13, 2023, 1:46 AM

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Mine was already populated with /22 actually

crude inlet Dec 13, 2023, 1:46 AM

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you reboot from the advanced option in the usual restart menu

tough robin Dec 13, 2023, 1:48 AM

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Ok and just to confirm, when toggling to static, there is an IP already in the input, can i use that?

lavish scaffold Dec 13, 2023, 2:56 AM

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tough robin Ok and just to confirm, when toggling to static, there is an IP already in the i...

Yes, that would the be IP used by HA.

manic bane Dec 13, 2023, 4:12 AM

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tough robin Ok and just to confirm, when toggling to static, there is an IP already in the i...

To make it clear, setting a local static IP doesn't need anything from your ISP end
Its just saying this is my local IP and I wanna stay here

tough robin Dec 13, 2023, 4:27 AM

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Got it, thank you all for the help.

meager abyss Dec 13, 2023, 4:45 AM

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running the pi 5 dev build seems good so far

zealous zealot Dec 13, 2023, 7:01 AM

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where in the UI do we go to add a custom repo URL for custom integration addon? I am using 2023.12.1 container image. I swear i found that option previously.

tender wren Dec 13, 2023, 7:06 AM

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With Container you don't have add-ons

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Custom integrations can be used with HACS

zealous zealot Dec 13, 2023, 7:06 AM

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https://hacs.xyz/docs/setup/download

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i found this . looks like i can follow this to allow hacs addon?

tender wren Dec 13, 2023, 7:07 AM

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HACS is not for add-ons

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HACS is for integrations, frontend stuff, templates and AppDaemon apps

zealous zealot Dec 13, 2023, 7:10 AM

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ah 😦

tender wren Dec 13, 2023, 7:10 AM

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Container install = no add-ons

zealous zealot Dec 13, 2023, 7:10 AM

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any technical reason why it cant have addons.

fallen saddle Dec 13, 2023, 7:11 AM

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Settings > Addons > Addon Store (on the bottom in blue) > ... menu (right up corner) > Repositories

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That's where the option is

tender wren Dec 13, 2023, 7:12 AM

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zealous zealot any technical reason why it cant have addons.

Yes. Because the install method you chose has no Supervisor, which handles the add-ons and other things

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Add-ons are only available on HAOS and Supervised install (but the second is not recommended)

zealous zealot Dec 13, 2023, 7:15 AM

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ok i made a project and it works when i manually place it in custom_components . What do you calll this? very confused now with the difference in addons vs HACS.

tender wren Dec 13, 2023, 7:16 AM

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Custom_components are not add-ons

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The custom_components are integrations and can be installed with HACS

wind vault Dec 13, 2023, 9:57 AM

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I cant connect to HA

raven forge Dec 13, 2023, 10:18 AM

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zealous zealot any technical reason why it cant have addons.

In theory the supervisor could be provided with a subset of its features when added as another container in a compose file and you give it access to the docker socket.

wind vault Dec 13, 2023, 10:57 AM

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can we connect to wifi wirelessly via HA CLI?

raven forge Dec 13, 2023, 10:58 AM

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https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/blob/dev/Documentation/network.md

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 11:05 AM

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Issue: cant connect to my Z2M dashboard through HA iframe without local SSL
Docker setup:
Nginx Proxy Manager for external duckdns/ssl for external connection

I assume I need to add https to all my containers not exposed to the internet. How do I do this? I assume the certificate will have the msg not valid, like locally acessing HA, but I dont mind that, if it makes it easier

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 11:22 AM

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Isn't it enough to use nginx proxy also for 'internal' connections? That's what I'm doing right now. All containers are bound to localhost and proxied through nginx to handle ssl.
That should be sufficient to get the iframe working without having to implement ssl on all single containers

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 11:28 AM

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placid sage Isn't it enough to use nginx proxy also for 'internal' connections? That's what ...

could you possibly point me in the direction of a tutorial or documentation? I did try looking for that but failed

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thats though nginx or nginx proxy manager?

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 11:34 AM

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Sorry I must have misunderstood. I'm using a simple nginx container to expose my services. If you're already doing that with proxy manager, what's stopping you from connecting to the ssl endpoint exposed by nginx in the internal network?

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 11:42 AM

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I am only exposing selected services externally (I assumed I dont want to expose everything). So the exposed endpoint is on the public web?
I am rather new to this.

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 11:50 AM

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No worries, I assume that from the outside you have some sort of DDNS service to resolve your public IP to your server. Let's say your hostname is ha.mydomain.me - that will have your browser connect to port 80 or 443 of your server, where nginx will resolve the hostname and proxy it to the HA container.
If I read your messages above correctly, right now you're using the container IP and port from your internal network (ie. 192.168.1.2:8080) so you are bypassing nginx and going straight to the HA container.

The trick here is to setup your internal DNS to resolve ha.mydomain.me to 192.168.1.2 so that nginx will be able to route the traffic correctly. You can use any self-hosted DNS service (like PiHole), or check your own router for static DNS entries.

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 11:56 AM

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I think that's not it.
When I access my HA I have iframes setup.
I guess they could also point to the external dns resolved address?

zigbee2mqtt: title: "Zigbee2MQTT" icon: mdi:zigbee url: http://localhost:8080/ require_admin: true

what I need is to be able to locally connect to (at least some) docker containers on https.

esp home also requires this to flash devices from local system

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 12:04 PM

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I would definitely replace http://localhost:8080/ with a dns name that can use the existing ssl certificate.
Otherwise you can try setting up your own self-signed certificates for the containers, but since you already have the certs working on nginx it seems like the wrong approach.

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 12:18 PM

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placid sage I would definitely replace `http://localhost:8080/` with a dns name that can use...

DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

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XXXXX.duckdns.org 192.168.0.99

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found something that might help me NVM didn't

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 1:16 PM

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Check your DNS settings, make sure the server and containers are using the correct server (where you set the static entries)

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2023, 1:58 PM

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I'm restoring a backup in the installation, is there any indicator if it's actually doing something? It just says "Restore in progress"

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 2:24 PM

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placid sage Check your DNS settings, make sure the server and containers are using the corre...

I had an issue with pihole/router dns configuration.
now I do have that part working.
but when I try to access a service via https://XXX.duckdns.org:port it will not load. It does load without https via http://XXX.duckdns.org:port

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 2:42 PM

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now I assume I have to find a way to redirect dns to nginx proxy manager container instead of just the host?

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 2:50 PM

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Is nginx bound to ports 80 and 443? If that's the case there's no need to specify the port.
Try it from your browser from inside the network, if you try opening the public URL for HA it should work - assuming that the DNS is resolving the private IP of your server

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 2:59 PM

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placid sage Is nginx bound to ports 80 and 443? If that's the case there's no need to specif...

if you mean the container, than it should be.
https://mydomain.duckdns.org doesnt work, but
https://mydomain.duckdns.org:8123/ does

without the DNS forward it works on https://mydomain.duckdns.org

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 3:00 PM

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what does "doesn't work" mean?

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times out?

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 3:01 PM

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502 Bad Gateway
openresty

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neither do any other services on https:
https://mydomain.duckdns.org:9000/ (portainer) ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR
http://mydomain.duckdns.org:9000/ but this does work, but without certificate (portainer)

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 3:05 PM

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yes that's normal, you can't access a container that doesn't have ssl with https

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the 502 error leads me to believe that you have a misconfiguration of some sort on nginx, because it should be redirecting traffic properly if you use the same DNS name that it expects from the public endpoint

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check its logs, there's likely some clue there

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 3:07 PM

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yes that's normal, you can't access a container that doesn't have ssl with https
that was my primary issue. Adding ssl to (some, or most) containers

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 3:09 PM

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so to make ssl work on a container you either:

configure the container to use SSL (the app running in it must support it); or
use nginx to terminate SSL and proxy the request to the container in cleartext

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choose whichever option is easier for you and go for it

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 3:10 PM

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I am assuming the secong one can be easist to apply to multiple containers?

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 3:11 PM

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since you're already managing ssl + proxy with nginx, yeah, definitely

drowsy hornet Dec 13, 2023, 3:11 PM

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I install home assistant on a RPI, now I'd like to SSH into it... I can ssh to the device but I don't know the default username/passowrd

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 3:12 PM

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placid sage since you're already managing ssl + proxy with nginx, yeah, definitely

and it can be easily setup to work on localnetwork also? (via dns redirect)

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 3:13 PM

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drowsy hornet I install home assistant on a RPI, now I'd like to SSH into it... I can ssh to t...

I know you can set that in Rasberry Pi Imager, but not what the default is

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 3:13 PM

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serene remnant and it can be easily setup to work on localnetwork also? (via dns redirect)

as I mentioned above, it should be enough to have a static dns entry that resolves to the local IP
the DNS record must be the same you use from the outside, so that the hostname and certificate will match your nginx configuration

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So in the end you should have mydomain.duckdns.org resolving the public IP of the server when outside of your network, and resolving the private IP of your server from inside.

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 3:24 PM

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and what should I search to find solutions to this?
nginx to terminate SSL and proxy the request to the container in cleartext

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 3:40 PM

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Nginx Proxy Manager should be handling all that already as far as I understand (note: I've never used it) - I suggest you look at its logs and take it from there.
The issue you're having is the 502, so I'd do this:

Ensure mydomain.duckdns.org is the same domain you use from the outside to connect to homeassistant
Ensure mydomain.duckdns.org resolves to the server's private IP when inside your local network
Test with curl if nginx is set up properly - ie. curl -I -H 'Host: mydomain.duckdns.org' http://PRIVATE_SERVER_IP (you should see HTTP/1.1 200 OK or a 301/302 code)
Test the same command with https://
If the above work there's no reason why the browser shouldn't work. Try a curl -I http://mydomain.duckdns.org and then again with https
- You should see curl output a line saying Trying PRIVATE_SERVER_IP...
  Try these steps and check the logs once you know where it breaks.

lofty owl Dec 13, 2023, 3:45 PM

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Hey someone can help me for this ? For the first install

23-12-13 16:36:54 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/generic-x86-64-homeassistant:2023.12.1: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/create?tag=2023.12.1&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fgeneric-x86-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Famd64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": dial tcp: lookup ghcr.io: Temporary failure in name resolution")

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 3:47 PM

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drowsy hornet I install home assistant on a RPI, now I'd like to SSH into it... I can ssh to t...

Have you tried https://community.home-assistant.io/t/ssh-on-raspberry-pi/273661
Or just googling in general?

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 3:48 PM

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lofty owl Hey someone can help me for this ? For the first install > 23-12-13 16:36:54 ERR...

Looks like an issue with DNS, is the box connected to the internet?

drowsy hornet Dec 13, 2023, 3:48 PM

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placid sage Have you tried https://community.home-assistant.io/t/ssh-on-raspberry-pi/273661 ...

Yes, and no, there is a bit of confusion for me when looking at the threads because there are so many install paths.

lofty owl Dec 13, 2023, 3:53 PM

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placid sage Looks like an issue with DNS, is the box connected to the internet?

yes, and found this in the logs

23-12-13 15:20:07 ERROR (MainThread) [asyncio] Task exception was never retrieved
future: <Task finished name='Task-1383' coro=<HomeAssistantCore.watchdog_container() done, defined at /usr/src/supervisor/supervisor/homeassistant/core.py:498> exception=JobException('Rate limit exceeded, more than 10 calls in 0:30:00')>
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/src/supervisor/supervisor/homeassistant/core.py", line 504, in watchdog_container
await self._restart_after_problem(event.state)
File "/usr/src/supervisor/supervisor/jobs/decorator.py", line 276, in wrapper
raise on_condition(
supervisor.exceptions.JobException: Rate limit exceeded, more than 10 calls in 0:30:00

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 13, 2023, 3:55 PM

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@serene remnant I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 4:00 PM

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Well you got a 200 OK instead of the 502, so it's encouraging. If you run the same command without -I does it return anything interesting?

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 13, 2023, 4:01 PM

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@serene remnant I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 4:05 PM

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So it's returning the default page 🤔
You should have a look at the logs and your config. Maybe check with the Nginx proxy manager people, they can probably help you better than I

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@serene remnant this is my nginx config if it can be of any help -> https://pastebin.com/f0S2t4Ss

lofty owl Dec 13, 2023, 4:09 PM

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placid sage Looks like an issue with DNS, is the box connected to the internet?

Update: seems good

Home Assistant observer
Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 4:10 PM

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Neat

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 4:13 PM

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placid sage So it's returning the default page 🤔 You should have a look at the logs and yo...

if you think it would be easier to set up a different proxy manager Im more than happy to. Not sure if you know of a good guide anywhere?
There doesn't seem to be too many places to ask questions/robust documentation for NPM

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 4:17 PM

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I've built my proxy with nginx + certbot, I'm sure there's plenty of guides out there to help you.
Since you already have NPM up and running I'd spend some time going through it before giving up, it's probably something simple that hasn't caught your eye yet.

brittle sail Dec 13, 2023, 4:24 PM

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there's really not much to nginxproxymanager.. here's what mine looks like for hass https://imgur.com/a/Uv6rcFP

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 4:29 PM

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brittle sail there's really not much to nginxproxymanager.. here's what mine looks like for h...

all the settings are the same, except HSTS

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 5:04 PM

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placid sage I've built my proxy with nginx + certbot, I'm sure there's plenty of guides out ...

could you please point me to what you consider a good guide for it?

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 5:08 PM

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serene remnant could you please point me to what you consider a good guide for it?

This should do the trick -> https://mindsers.blog/en/post/https-using-nginx-certbot-docker/

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This is specific to HA, may be of help also https://blog.emtwo.ch/2022/08/home-assistant-in-docker-with-ngix-and.html

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 5:22 PM

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placid sage This is specific to HA, may be of help also https://blog.emtwo.ch/2022/08/home-a...

thank you so much for all your help, your a god!

placid sage Dec 13, 2023, 5:28 PM

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You're very welcome

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 7:01 PM

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placid sage This is specific to HA, may be of help also https://blog.emtwo.ch/2022/08/home-a...

Certbot failed to authenticate some domains (authenticator: webroot). The Certificate Authority reported these problems:
Domain: xxx.duckdns.org
Type: connection
Detail: 139.28.117.180: Fetching http://xxx.duckdns.org/.well-known/acme-challenge/EeOnkT6a0QLqocPcDuGRzP8UsylOtMp0819rf91GF0Y: Timeout during connect (likely firewall problem)
I didn't ever put my letsencrypt key anywhere

stoic jewel Dec 13, 2023, 7:03 PM

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stoic jewel I upgraded Core to 2023 12.0 and these messages stopped.

That was short-lived. After another re-boot, the 'no backend DAI's ' message are back. Still unresolved.

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 7:04 PM

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I did try HA specific one last time, (https://blog.emtwo.ch/2022/08/home-assistant-in-docker-with-ngix-and.html) but I ran into sudo ./init-letsencrypt.sh giving me a bin bash error (cant remember what is fully was, but it didnt seem to execute enything, but I might know why now

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 7:27 PM

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placid sage So it's returning the default page 🤔 You should have a look at the logs and yo...

OMG... what ports do I need forwarded to system?
I had 81->81, 8123->8123, 443->8123

I am assuming I needed 443->443 and 80->80?

empty bloom Dec 13, 2023, 7:30 PM

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if you have a reverse proxy, you only need 443->443

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if you don't have a reverse proxy, you only need 443->8123

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 7:35 PM

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empty bloom if you have a reverse proxy, you only need 443->443

HA with local dns now works, but non SSL containers still dont

brittle sail Dec 13, 2023, 7:49 PM

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empty bloom if you have a reverse proxy, you only need 443->443

Npm uses 80 for certs unless they use like dns-01 auth

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Which I suggest using

empty bloom Dec 13, 2023, 8:04 PM

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I wasn’t caught up on the convo

brittle sail Dec 13, 2023, 8:04 PM

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he's been through the ringer

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prob better off with proxmox and virtualizing hass than using addons like nginx inside hass imo

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 8:35 PM

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brittle sail prob better off with proxmox and virtualizing hass than using addons like nginx ...

im using ha in docker

brittle sail Dec 13, 2023, 8:35 PM

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ah ok

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 8:36 PM

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just trying to get proxy into the server right :X

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I mean my trouble started with a bug from 2011 with brltty 😄

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I am following this:
https://pentacent.medium.com/nginx-and-lets-encrypt-with-docker-in-less-than-5-minutes-b4b8a60d3a71

samuel@DockerVivo:/opt$ sudo ./init-letsencrypt.sh
sudo: unable to execute ./init-letsencrypt.sh: No such file or directory

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 8:45 PM

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serene remnant I am following this: https://pentacent.medium.com/nginx-and-lets-encrypt-with-do...

encoding issue.

serene remnant Dec 13, 2023, 10:23 PM

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placid sage so to make ssl work on a container you either: * configure the container to use ...

I think I created a thread, should have a long time ago :X

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ngninx docker

fresh flume Dec 14, 2023, 12:41 PM

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Is it possible to have the sqlite file in another directory than the /config one?

humble mirage Dec 14, 2023, 12:49 PM

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Yes, sort of

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/recorder#sqlite

serene remnant Dec 14, 2023, 12:59 PM

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I am so lost in the hole NGNIX that I dont know what to do :X

fresh flume Dec 14, 2023, 1:02 PM

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humble mirage Yes, sort of

Thanks. Any objections against storing that in /config/.storage folder?

humble mirage Dec 14, 2023, 1:02 PM

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That's a managed folder, who knows what'll happen if you do that

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Why not create you own "hidden" folder?

fresh flume Dec 14, 2023, 1:04 PM

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Would also be fine. Just though to reuse the one existing.

raven forge Dec 14, 2023, 1:10 PM

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I think it might be useful to know why you want to store it somewhere else

placid sage Dec 14, 2023, 1:11 PM

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Moving the discussion from #general-archived

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Hello I am writing here as I am getting quite desperate. I am running Home Assistant on a Raspberry pi 4. I have some integration configured Esphome, Ikea, Meross etc. After now few hours my box simply become unresponsive even to ping. I am sure there is something that makes it crash but I cannot find what. I have connected the SSD running HA to my linux pc and I am trying to fin relative information on the logs. I even downloaded the journal file but it seems I cannot read those outside the system. Can someone please point me what to look for and where? I have alredy swapped drives, moved back to use sd cards and even put a cooler on the SOC of the Raspberry but no joy.

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same issue with many sd cards

raven forge Dec 14, 2023, 1:12 PM

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I'd check the host logs. See how how to grab older ones: <#general-archived message>
Are you using a powered USB hub and proper power supply?

placid sage Dec 14, 2023, 1:13 PM

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proper original power supply

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no hub

calm bison Dec 14, 2023, 1:19 PM

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i asked this on the forums earlier, maybe more luck here. Does anyone know a way to change HA-OS boot-order to load add-ons before core?

placid sage Dec 14, 2023, 1:20 PM

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raven forge I'd check the host logs. See how how to grab older ones: <https://discord.com/ch...

is the log truncated?

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I can see only a bunch of dns error

raven forge Dec 14, 2023, 1:24 PM

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Yes. You should've run ha help host logslike explained in the link

Flags:
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  -n, --lines int32         Number of log entries to show

placid sage Dec 14, 2023, 1:31 PM

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DTLSC errors

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quite a lot

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and the meross integration that is not official

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but also Trasfiri

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*Tradfiri

fresh flume Dec 14, 2023, 1:34 PM

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raven forge I think it might be useful to know why you want to store it somewhere else

I want to migrate my mariaDB and thought it is a good time to think about the location of the new sqlite. I would just like to tidy my config directory a bit.

raven forge Dec 14, 2023, 1:34 PM

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But if you migrate there will be no new SQLite file?

placid sage Dec 14, 2023, 1:43 PM

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Error handling request
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/aiohttp/web_protocol.py", line 350, in data_received
messages, upgraded, tail = self._request_parser.feed_data(data)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "aiohttp/_http_parser.pyx", line 557, in aiohttp._http_parser.HttpParser.feed_data
aiohttp.http_exceptions.BadStatusLine: 400, message:
Invalid method encountered:

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ot sure what to do with this

brittle sail Dec 14, 2023, 2:41 PM

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@tranquil thunder https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/743144302334443622/1019746044877230190/unknown.png?ex=658cae03&is=657a3903&hm=f80fb27e6e85009fb8e75407c5a0c2c9fbcff78e988b332187a5cd038387855d&

tranquil thunder Dec 14, 2023, 2:41 PM

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@brittle sail Running a supervised install of HA on a VM and want to move to a bare metal install on a NUC to avoid USB passthrough and the layer of complication the containerized setup creates. What's that install process look like and is there a downside?

brittle sail Dec 14, 2023, 2:42 PM

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Haos runs the supervisor. Supervisor runs the addons. Addons are purpose built docker containers

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Supervised non haos install should not exist and is actively discouraged by the devs

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It expects sysadmin levels of upkeep following strict guidelines

tranquil thunder Dec 14, 2023, 2:43 PM

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brittle sail <@1171923822270759033> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/743144302334443622...

So the PNG is a supervised OS setup?

brittle sail Dec 14, 2023, 2:43 PM

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No

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At the very bottom it says home assistant os lol

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It’s haos Russian nesting dolls 🪆 edition

tranquil thunder Dec 14, 2023, 3:09 PM

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So roll the newest debian version on the Nuc?

empty bloom Dec 14, 2023, 3:09 PM

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I highly suggest you do not go the supervised route

brittle sail Dec 14, 2023, 3:10 PM

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tranquil thunder So roll the newest debian version on the Nuc?

What?!

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How did you end up at this conclusion given our conversations

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If you’re not trolling I’m just disappointed

tranquil thunder Dec 14, 2023, 3:14 PM

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I thought you were not running the containered version of HA

humble mirage Dec 14, 2023, 3:14 PM

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HAOS or Container... anything else is inviting pain and suffering

brittle sail Dec 14, 2023, 3:15 PM

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He’s somehow convinced haos is a manual Debian supervised install

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And not its own purpose built OS but I already said all the things 😢

empty bloom Dec 14, 2023, 3:16 PM

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Yeah, don't be like me

tranquil thunder Dec 14, 2023, 3:16 PM

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So I will follow this install method:https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64

empty bloom Dec 14, 2023, 3:17 PM

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I run supervised, I'm currently waiting for the last possible minute before switching, which will be whenever debian 12 is enforced

brittle sail Dec 14, 2023, 3:17 PM

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Gon’ git’

empty bloom Dec 14, 2023, 3:17 PM

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and that's only because I really don't have the knowledge to maintain it myself without handholding from the dudes over on the forums

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And you will hit this every single debian release, and every single change made to HAOS operating system that affects the dependencies.

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That is why you should avoid supervised.

tranquil thunder Dec 14, 2023, 3:19 PM

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Dumb question, is HAOS onto your x86-64 hardware supervised?

empty bloom Dec 14, 2023, 3:19 PM

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No, that's HAOS

humble mirage Dec 14, 2023, 3:19 PM

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Well, it has the Supervisor, if that's the question

empty bloom Dec 14, 2023, 3:19 PM

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it has the supervisor

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tink beat me

humble mirage Dec 14, 2023, 3:19 PM

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Supervised is an install method

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Supervisor is the Docker manager used by HAOS (and Supervised)

empty bloom Dec 14, 2023, 3:21 PM

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Tinkerer is the supervised no-no brigade manager

tranquil thunder Dec 14, 2023, 3:21 PM

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HAOS onto to the NUC is the path forward from the VM install

empty bloom Dec 14, 2023, 3:21 PM

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Most likely

tranquil thunder Dec 14, 2023, 3:22 PM

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What do you lose with HAOS on the NUC vs supervised?

humble mirage Dec 14, 2023, 3:23 PM

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Nothing

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You gain not having to manage an OS

empty bloom Dec 14, 2023, 3:23 PM

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you only gain a headache and the ability to run containers next to HA that aren't addons that HA will continually bitch about, so even more headache

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Back in the day, there was a reason to run supervised. Now, not so much.

humble mirage Dec 14, 2023, 3:24 PM

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(and may result in HA throwing unsupported errors, stopping you from updating)

tame hamlet Dec 14, 2023, 4:24 PM

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How does one resize a partition on HA? I increased the size via fdisk but there is no resize2fs to expand the partition

grand pivot Dec 14, 2023, 4:24 PM

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HAOS will automatically expand to fill the device it's installed on

tame hamlet Dec 14, 2023, 4:26 PM

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When? The VM was created with a 32 GB disk and that's not enough to restore the backup so it's going to fail unless the partition size gets increased

grand pivot Dec 14, 2023, 4:26 PM

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when it starts

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you're trying to restore a backup that's bigger than the VM space you've allocated?

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allocate more

tame hamlet Dec 14, 2023, 4:28 PM

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That's what I did, I increased the disk size while restore is running. But df -h still reports the old size. That's why I was hoping to simply use resize2fs and that is not available in the latest version it seems

grand pivot Dec 14, 2023, 4:29 PM

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increase the size, restart, it will expand

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you can't do it in-flight

serene crescent Dec 14, 2023, 4:31 PM

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My home assistant core installation currently complains that bluetooth integration could not be set up. My hardware doesn’t have bluetooth. Should I add like a bluetooth dongle or something to get it to work?

humble mirage Dec 14, 2023, 4:37 PM

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You need a suitable dongle or a #bluetooth-archived proxy

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#bluetooth-archived can help

fiery heath Dec 14, 2023, 6:24 PM

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FYI, I successfully installed Home Assistant Core onto a BTT Pi. A bit of a pain, but got it done.

woeful zenith Dec 15, 2023, 8:08 AM

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Getting this error after installation on RP5 (This is when i access "http://homeassistant.local:8123/" after the installation is done)

"3-12-15 08:59:05 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi5-64-homeassistant:2023.12.3: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/create?tag=2023.12.3&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi5-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("manifest unknown")
23-12-15 08:59:05 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec"

Any workaround for this?

tender wren Dec 15, 2023, 8:11 AM

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There is no stable HAOS release for RPi5 yet

woeful zenith Dec 15, 2023, 8:11 AM

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I downloaded the beta version

humble mirage Dec 15, 2023, 8:11 AM

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You're brave

tender wren Dec 15, 2023, 8:12 AM

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As I understood in the release stream, they got the beta to boot, but still are facing some issues.

tame hamlet Dec 15, 2023, 10:09 AM

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I'm trying to migrate HA to a different device. Upon restoring the backup HA does not have a working Web UI. Some other things seem to be running so it's not like the whole thing is dead. I tried googling but some stuff is outdated and other is not helpful. Is there an up-to-date guide on how to troubleshoot it? Or what to look for?

humble mirage Dec 15, 2023, 10:13 AM

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Reboot the computer once the restore is done

tame hamlet Dec 15, 2023, 10:22 AM

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Silly me, turned out I explicitly needed to specify it's https and not http, sorry for the noise.

serene remnant Dec 15, 2023, 11:17 AM

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Is it possible that changing HA from having ssl certificate configured to a proxy broke my Google Nest integration?
I deleted it and attempted to re add it, but I get the msg: Error while obtaining access token.

humble mirage Dec 15, 2023, 11:22 AM

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If the proxy was set up correctly, and the external URL didn't change, then Nest shouldn't have noticed

serene remnant Dec 15, 2023, 11:25 AM

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could pihole be doing that? (with default blocklist)

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duplicati is also throwing a Oauth error

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and I had a weird error where docker wouldn't pull containers unless I added a secondary dns to its host system

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disabling pihole in router seems to work
dhcp-option=6,192.168.0.99, 192.168.0.5, 1.1.1.1

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:X :X :X
after reboot of host the trusted proxy IP changes :X not only the last slot, but also the second slots

humble mirage Dec 15, 2023, 11:44 AM

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Sounds like you used the Docker network address, rather than whitelisting the subnet

serene remnant Dec 15, 2023, 11:59 AM

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- 172.21.0.2

these are entries that have appeared in HA logs
I have.
I am assuming this would fix it, but I haven't seen anyone do it like that, so I probably shouldn't

 - 172.21.0.2/8

I wish I had backticks easly accessible on my keyboard :X

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 15, 2023, 11:59 AM

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To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks.
```yaml
example: here
```
Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

humble mirage Dec 15, 2023, 12:33 PM

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Well, /8 no

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172.16.0.0/12 would cover you ranges, and more, in a less insecure manner

half wave Dec 15, 2023, 5:13 PM

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Hi, I would like to install home assistant on docker, but there are a lot of different info on the web and I'm kinda overwhelmed. I just need a few things in my instance: HACS, to passthrough a zigbee USB dongle, and being able to access it via reverse proxy. Could someone help me? Thank you.

left agate Dec 15, 2023, 5:45 PM

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Anyone running HAOS on a beelink mini s12 (Intel N95)? How much more resources can it handle alongside HA? Could it handle Frigate on a different proxmox container, for example?

tender wren Dec 15, 2023, 5:46 PM

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#hardware-archived might be able to help

glass pawn Dec 15, 2023, 6:10 PM

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I'm installing HAOS on my system (64-bit processor) and i've tried flashing the image (https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/download/11.2/haos_generic-x86-64-11.2.img.xz) directly to the boot medium (HDD) using Rufus / B Etcher but the system isn't recognizing it as bootable... am I missing something?

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my next steps are to try booting from a live OS but I don't think that will make a difference

tender wren Dec 15, 2023, 6:18 PM

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Your EFI might need a boot entry. See the note here:
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64#start-up-your-generic-x86-64

glass pawn Dec 15, 2023, 6:25 PM

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Life update - I was working under the presumption that my BIOS had UEFI support... guess thats what I get for using recycled hardware 😂

raven forge Dec 15, 2023, 6:27 PM

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If you install proxmox VE you don't need UEFI support on the host and can virtualize (which has many benefits) HAOS.
What hardware are you using?

torn slate Dec 15, 2023, 6:33 PM

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If i created a backup of zigbee2mqtt and i just wanna start over with my HA install, is just the devices.yaml enough to put back after configuring Z2M?

tender wren Dec 15, 2023, 6:35 PM

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torn slate If i created a backup of zigbee2mqtt and i just wanna start over with my HA inst...

#zigbee-archived can help with that

torn slate Dec 15, 2023, 6:35 PM

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thanks c:

somber dagger Dec 15, 2023, 7:18 PM

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i can install pi5 ?

slow dome Dec 15, 2023, 7:30 PM

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Hi, after the latest HassOS update my RPI3 is in a reboot loop. The HDMI console is showing OOM killed messages. Is there a way to stop the auto reboot sequence and jump to a recovery shell?

crude inlet Dec 15, 2023, 7:31 PM

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somber dagger i can install pi5 ?

Only if you feel like testing HAOS for pi5. It is not complete

tender wren Dec 15, 2023, 7:42 PM

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Or use Raspberry Pi OS, Docker and the Container install (with its differences to HAOS)

somber dagger Dec 15, 2023, 7:49 PM

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tender wren Or use Raspberry Pi OS, Docker and the Container install (with its differences t...

raspberry os lite ?

tender wren Dec 15, 2023, 7:52 PM

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Yes. But if you go the Container route, do not expect add-ons or restoring a backup via UI

somber dagger Dec 15, 2023, 7:53 PM

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tender wren Yes. But if you go the Container route, do not expect add-ons or restoring a bac...

im didnt understand

slow dome Dec 15, 2023, 7:58 PM

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slow dome Hi, after the latest HassOS update my RPI3 is in a reboot loop. The HDMI console...

I think I'm going the restore full backup route now with a different SD card to get around this

analog plover Dec 15, 2023, 9:29 PM

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My searching in here and elsewhere has returned no results, so here is my question/issue:
I bought a CM4 off of ebay during the pandemic for an eventual HA Yellow build, and I have finally purchased everything I need to do it. I am now running into the issue of having no way (to my knowledge) to overwrite the "Recalbox" installation that is already on the CM4 flash memory. I am using an NVME drive, I do not have a CM4 breakout board, and I am not sure what to do from here. Researching everything from "wipe/factory reset a CM4" to "HA yellow force boot from USB" and everything in between, to no avail. Not experienced with any of this technically, and looking for some help. Thanks!

worn python Dec 16, 2023, 12:46 PM

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Does anybody have an ETA for the next version of the operating system?

fallen lichen Dec 16, 2023, 12:48 PM

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Are you looking for something in particular

vagrant geode Dec 16, 2023, 3:14 PM

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Hi! Can someone help me by installing suprevisor home assistant on ihost? Thank you!

tender wren Dec 16, 2023, 4:50 PM

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In short: don't do it

worn oriole Dec 16, 2023, 5:45 PM

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hey guys, im like super new to home assistant. I got it running on a mac just to try it and now i want to put it on a low powered computer. The only issue is after installing it on this low powered computer, im missing tons of features. I dont see anything to restore my backup and the addon store is just not there. Im really confused and dont know what went wrong. If anyone can help me i would greatly appreciate it. If i posted this in the wrong channel please let me know!!!

grand pivot Dec 16, 2023, 5:50 PM

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Seems like you installed the container version rather than HAOS

worn oriole Dec 16, 2023, 6:02 PM

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grand pivot Seems like you installed the container version rather than HAOS

Is there any way to install HAOS through docker or is the container version my only option?

grand pivot Dec 16, 2023, 6:03 PM

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Just install HAOS

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Why did you install the container version in the first place?

worn oriole Dec 16, 2023, 6:05 PM

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I tried to install it once before and my device didn’t boot. However I think it didn’t boot due to a power supply issue. I’m going to try HAOS once again and see if that fixes it

grand pivot Dec 16, 2023, 6:05 PM

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Instructions for many devices: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/

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Yes, that's the way

worn oriole Dec 16, 2023, 6:06 PM

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So if I install HAOS I can restore from a backup, correct?

grand pivot Dec 16, 2023, 6:07 PM

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Yes

worn oriole Dec 16, 2023, 6:09 PM

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Yeah I put the HAOS image on a micro sd card and it doesn’t boot

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If it helps I’m using a Libre Computer Board

grand kindle Dec 16, 2023, 6:55 PM

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Hello all, bit of a newbie here. Have not had any problems until I went to install the file editor add on, and receive an error " Can't install homeassistant/amd64-addon-configurator:5.7.0: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/create?tag=5.7.0&fromImage=homeassistant%2Famd64-addon-configurator&platform=linux%2Famd64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://registry-1.docker.io/v2/": read tcp 192.168.1.37:56442->34.226.69.105:443: read: connection reset by peer") "
Not sure how to resolve this error
HA is installed in a VM linux kernal version

fading horizon Dec 16, 2023, 7:16 PM

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Hello. I have an issue with OVA Image. I used ESXi 6 and with image I have a lot of network Issue. I tested with a container and it's OK. The problem with docker it's not possible to add third-party module. So, Who use ESXi and OVA image?

grand kindle Dec 16, 2023, 7:20 PM

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fading horizon Hello. I have an issue with OVA Image. I used ESXi 6 and with image I have a lot...

Seems related to my issue as well

fading horizon Dec 16, 2023, 7:21 PM

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grand kindle Seems related to my issue as well

oh I'm not alone 😅

grand kindle Dec 16, 2023, 7:22 PM

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yea, mine is in a VMware VM through linux. But whenever I try to install certain add-ons, even official ones, I get an error similar to what I posted above

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some add-ons have no issue installing, some do. it is weird

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even if I try on the command line level

fading horizon Dec 16, 2023, 7:25 PM

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I tried to install HA with Debian, but didn't success. It's not easy

raven forge Dec 16, 2023, 7:27 PM

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I don't think there's a truly easy way to install and use HA but that's all very subjective.

fading horizon Dec 16, 2023, 7:32 PM

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Since 2015, I used a French Solution that name is "Jeedom". It's very cool solution, but some things seems easier with HA.

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So, I would test and with docker it's seems that the best solution. However, it's necessary to control this technology

raven forge Dec 16, 2023, 7:34 PM

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I'd suggest the docker installation too. If you explain what issues you encountered we might be able to help

fading horizon Dec 16, 2023, 7:37 PM

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raven forge I'd suggest the docker installation too. If you explain what issues you encounte...

I have many connection issue in log. I added only two light and some times it works and after when I click on switch, there is a delay.

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example my device are unvailable

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2023-12-16 20:28:19.977 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.homeassistant_alerts] Timeout fetching homeassistant_alerts data
2023-12-16 20:29:07.386 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.shelly] Error fetching Lumière Cuisine data: Error fetching data: DeviceConnectionError()

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I tried to understanda why I have this with VM and not with docker

raven forge Dec 16, 2023, 7:55 PM

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Not sure as I use neither of this but it seems you're not alone: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/83099
Doesn't look like a debian issue to me. I assume you use the docker compose from the docs?

fading horizon Dec 16, 2023, 8:32 PM

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I used portainer to install the last version of container.

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But with docker it's ok. M'y issue it is only with ova image.
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative

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For you what IS the best solution to install HA?

raven forge Dec 16, 2023, 8:38 PM

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Like I said. My recommendation is the docker installation method (via compose).

fading horizon Dec 16, 2023, 8:44 PM

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Ok and is it easy to edit configuration.yaml with docker?

raven forge Dec 16, 2023, 9:04 PM

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Not any different than with HAOS.

fading horizon Dec 16, 2023, 9:15 PM

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Ok thanks you for your information.
So I'm going to reinstall ha with docker.

raven forge Dec 16, 2023, 9:35 PM

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I mean it is different if you are used to use the Configurator or VS Code but those can be installed as separate docker containers. You can also use any other editor to modify the configuration file. It's just a file. HAOS also runs HA as a docker container.

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 10:42 PM

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Hi All,

Has anyone got any experience of running HA on Ubuntu via WSL?

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 10:45 PM

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damn people are getting real weird with it with installs today

storm sluice Dec 16, 2023, 10:46 PM

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nope never tried and probably never will

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 10:49 PM

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I'm currently running the HAOS on a VM but having issues with the Tapo intergration so wanted to try on Ubuntu instead

storm sluice Dec 16, 2023, 10:50 PM

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why would that change anything?

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what is the issue you are having?

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 10:53 PM

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storm sluice why would that change anything?

The cli seems limited on HAOS

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 10:54 PM

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frigid tapir I'm currently running the HAOS on a VM but having issues with the Tapo intergrat...

Integration behavior has zero change across all installations

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 10:54 PM

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storm sluice what is the issue you are having?

https://github.com/petretiandrea/home-assistant-tapo-p100/issues/578

storm sluice Dec 16, 2023, 10:54 PM

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in what way? integrations use python code, they shouldnt care for shells or installed binaries or anything unless they are made badly

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 10:55 PM

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brittle sail Integration behavior has zero change across all installations

I want to try and change the connection port for the tapo add-on

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 10:55 PM

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So you’re talking about addons and docker containers not integrations?

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 10:56 PM

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brittle sail So you’re talking about addons and docker containers not integrations?

I guess so, I've only just started with HA this week

humble scaffoldBOT Dec 16, 2023, 10:57 PM

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An add-on is a Docker container with tweaks to allow it to be configured in the Supervisor UI. It is only available in the Supervised installs (#330990055533576204 and #330944238910963714) since if you've used any other install method you're able to install software already.

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 10:57 PM

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Ah that needs updating

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Well anyways integrations actually integrate with home assistant. Addons add on additional functionality which can then be integrated with home assistant

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It’s a pretty big distinction so gotta clarify lol

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If you don’t use haos and go for a docker install, you’ll have to manually setup containers for every addon you used to use / want to use (because addons don’t exist for docker install)

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That is the preferred method for some and it works well

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 11:01 PM

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brittle sail If you don’t use haos and go for a docker install, you’ll have to manually setup...

HAOS sounds like the better option for me then

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:02 PM

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https://analytics.home-assistant.io/

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:02 PM

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frigid tapir HAOS sounds like the better option for me then

That’s the consensus of the overwhelming majority lol

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 11:03 PM

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Any idea on how I can change the tapo connection port from within HAOS?

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:06 PM

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The #add-ons-archived needs to have the option

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If it doesn’t you can’t do anything about it unless you fork the addon and change the code

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This is a limitation of haos and the addons

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 11:07 PM

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The dev mentioned abut editing it but I can't find the file he mentioned

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:07 PM

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File?

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Did you try to go to addon configure tab for tapo?

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Please move to #add-ons-archived

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 11:12 PM

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Apparantly it's an intergration!

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:14 PM

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frigid tapir Apparantly it's an intergration!

I was talking to a different person there and he deleted the messages lol

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So your question is actually how to reconfigure the port on the tapo #integrations-archived ?

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 11:20 PM

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brittle sail So your question is actually how to reconfigure the port on the tapo <#672220541...

Yes, but it looks like I'll just have to wait for the update

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:20 PM

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ah okay

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 11:20 PM

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HA is useless to me until then

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:20 PM

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lol

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then you're using it wrong

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 11:20 PM

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Unfortunately I've invested in Tapo hardware now

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:21 PM

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you can edit the file of the integrations with a file browser or vs code addon

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but you just were never clear enough using enough of the right terminology to ask the right question

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 11:21 PM

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brittle sail you can edit the file of the integrations with a file browser or vs code addon

How?

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:21 PM

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no idea ask the nerds in #integrations-archived lmao

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 11:21 PM

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I can't even pull up the python version in HAOS

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:21 PM

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like the dev should've told you what file to edit

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and where it lived

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and you should just be able to browse to it and edit some code

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 11:22 PM

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brittle sail like the dev should've told you what file to edit

He did, but not in HAOS

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:22 PM

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frigid tapir I can't even pull up the python version in HAOS

you can get to a "usable shell" but it's not a full linux os it's buildroot purpose built OS

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install the studio code server addon

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and then find your file and edit it

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https://imgur.com/a/AjL0rhv it drops you in /config and it's pretty easy to figure out where you need to go

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~~ah fuck no cuz it's an (official) integration ~~

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link the integration you are using please

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 11:29 PM

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http://homeassistant.local:8123/hacs/repository/323923603

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Is that link any good?

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:29 PM

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ya my suggestion above will work to edit hacs files

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:30 PM

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frigid tapir http://homeassistant.local:8123/hacs/repository/323923603

yes it works

frigid tapir Dec 16, 2023, 11:30 PM

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Thanks! I'll hvae a look now!

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:32 PM

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frigid tapir Unfortunately I've invested in Tapo hardware now

i certainly wouldnt suggest buying more of it btw

tacit field Dec 16, 2023, 11:34 PM

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Hello everybody! Sorry to interrupt, but I'm trying to "install" HA using virt-install, but it just doesn't want to start.
That's the command I'm using to bring it up (copied off the installation instructions): virt-install --name hass --description "Home Assistant OS" --os-variant=generic --ram=2048 --vcpus=2 --disk /var/lib/libvirt/images/haos_ova-11.2.qcow2,bus=sata --import --graphics none --noautoconsole --boot uefi
The issue is, after a few seconds from when the VM has started up, the CPU usage drops to ~2% and the web UI becomes unreachable. The most I managed to get to is a setup page with a log that had a warning regarding PulseAudio and an error which said that it couldn't update the CLI (even though I could ping 8.8.8.8 just fine).
During the first seconds of the first boot I can get to something that at least resembles a setup page, but after this time passes, I just cannot reach it anymore without deleting the VM and creating a new one. I tried redownloading the disk, but I always have the same issue. Got any tips?

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:35 PM

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there's no interrupting man you're good

tacit field Dec 16, 2023, 11:36 PM

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Curl http://127.0.0.1:8123 from HA itself doesn't work, ha core check just says Command completed successfully.
I'm using a Reverse Proxy to access the VM from outside the VM itself

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:38 PM

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tacit field Hello everybody! Sorry to interrupt, but I'm trying to "install" HA using virt-i...

just curious is this proxmox?

tacit field Dec 16, 2023, 11:40 PM

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brittle sail just curious is this proxmox?

Nope, it's just an Ubuntu server with libvirt on it

storm sluice Dec 16, 2023, 11:41 PM

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check the logs?

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ha core logs, ha su logs

tacit field Dec 16, 2023, 11:42 PM

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2023-12-17 00:41:58.497 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http.forwarded] A request from a reverse proxy was received from 192.168.122.1, but your HTTP integration is not set-up for reverse proxies

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It does actually make sense, but I cannot access that VM without a reverse proxy

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:43 PM

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lol

storm sluice Dec 16, 2023, 11:44 PM

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change the configuration.yaml then to allow for that

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:44 PM

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storm sluice change the configuration.yaml then to allow for that

this is first boot

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how do you do that before first boot?

storm sluice Dec 16, 2023, 11:47 PM

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pretty sure it generates a default config if the configuratiion directory is empty

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:47 PM

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Right

storm sluice Dec 16, 2023, 11:47 PM

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just edit the files of that and restart the core container?

tacit field Dec 16, 2023, 11:48 PM

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The only config I found contains the following:

# Loads default set of integrations. Do not remove.
default_config:

# Load frontend themes from the themes folder
frontend:
  themes: !include_dir_merge_named themes

automation: !include automations.yaml
script: !include scripts.yaml
scene: !include scenes.yaml

Is it the right one? The path is /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant/configuration.yaml

storm sluice Dec 16, 2023, 11:48 PM

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i think you can type login or something on the ha cli to get a shell

storm sluice Dec 16, 2023, 11:49 PM

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tacit field The only config I found contains the following: ``` # Loads default set of integ...

yep

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:49 PM

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That file will be your new bff

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You keep it happy it keeps you happy smile

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Syntax and spacing matters so make sure to follow the docs

storm sluice Dec 16, 2023, 11:50 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/http/#reverse-proxies

tacit field Dec 16, 2023, 11:50 PM

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It's like a girl tho, you have no idea what it wants

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:50 PM

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tacit field It's like a girl tho, you have no idea what it wants

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/http/#use_x_forwarded_for

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:51 PM

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tacit field It's like a girl tho, you have no idea what it wants

https://tenor.com/6EO7.gif

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/http/#reverse-proxies wrong link sorry

tacit field Dec 16, 2023, 11:52 PM

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I added this to the bottom of the config:

http:
  - use_x_forwarded_for: true
  - trusted_proxies: 192.168.122.1

I rebooted the system and my dear HA keeps saying 2023-12-17 00:52:40.438 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http.forwarded] A request from a reverse proxy was received from 192.168.122.1, but your HTTP integration is not set-up for reverse proxies

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The best thing is it keeps saying that even though I'm not making any request

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:55 PM

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i personally do ```yaml
192.168.1.0/24

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so it doesnt bitch about other clients

tacit field Dec 16, 2023, 11:55 PM

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I don't think that's the issue, but I'll try

brittle sail Dec 16, 2023, 11:55 PM

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i dont either

tacit field Dec 16, 2023, 11:58 PM

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Looks like the reverse proxy errors were hiding more errors on top of it. Looks like there are lots of dependency issues

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HEEEEEEY I'm dumb so I added unnecessary things to the config.
That's what I should have added:

http:
  use_x_forwarded_for: true
  trusted_proxies:
    - 192.168.122.0/24

The issue were the "-" before "use_x and trusted"
and now I get the setup page. Thanks a lot for the help!

storm sluice Dec 17, 2023, 12:04 AM

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no problem

fading horizon Dec 17, 2023, 8:52 AM

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raven forge I mean it is different if you are used to use the Configurator or VS Code but th...

Thanks you
I didn't know that. I'm going to reinstall from scratch

feral drift Dec 17, 2023, 11:21 AM

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tacit field Hello everybody! Sorry to interrupt, but I'm trying to "install" HA using virt-i...

you sure it isn't running NAT & instead is operating as a separate device on your network? i run it on an ubuntu server with libvirt as well - that was exactly the same roadblock I ran into lol