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lone pendant
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My friend you’re on the journey and it’s an amazing skill set to learn. And you’re asking what feels like a simple question. In reality it’s a little more complex. I think we’d all really encourage you to spend some time reading and watching and learning. Another approach is to build a “lab” set up where failure has very low consequence. You’ll get this stuff. Give it time.

blissful holly
# lone pendant My friend you’re on the journey and it’s an amazing skill set to learn. And you’...

I mean, it's not like I haven't been reading and watching and learning. I'm essentially just trying to get HA to work with the reolink doorbell I have...everything else is homekit compatible. I had everything working in a VirtualBox VM running on MacOS Big Sur, but if I left it unattended for longer than 2 minutes, it would freeze, and I'd have to force quit and reboot VB and restart the VM. ProxMox running HAOS was recommended to me as perhaps a more stable setup, so I'm trying to figure it out. But if I can't get it to work reliably within a week, I'm going to return the reolink and go with something that is completely homekit compatible...while the reolink is still within its return window.

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I am a caregiver with decent technical skills, but I'm not an IT person by trade or background.

bold ferry
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Hey guys, so I'm stuck with my first installation of Home Assistant. I'm running it on an intel nuk using proxmox and podman.

I can't seem to access the web interface of neither home assistant or podman. Let me know if you need anymore information.

I am able to access to proxmox webinterface

lone pendant
# blissful holly I am a caregiver with decent technical skills, but I'm not an IT person by trade...

I understand that - I know what it’s like to get in deep and get in quickly. I’m not suggesting you need to become an sysadmin overnight. I’m worried you’re trying to tackle multiple problems at once: dns, proxmox, haos, and an integration for reolink. How can we simplify this? Also we have to focus - while many of us also use proxmox or VMs, that’s not the scope of this server. I’m happy to try and help but it’s “out of band”

lone pendant
blissful holly
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I feel like sharing IP's is a bad idea.

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I do appreciate the help, btw. I don't want to come across as ungrateful.

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Correct me if I am wrong, please: I can have HA disconnected from the internet, because I can add it to Apple Home as a hub, and therefore Apple Home will provide all of my remote capabilities.

lone pendant
lone pendant
blissful holly
lone pendant
lone pendant
bold ferry
# lone pendant We need all the information. IPs, how’d you configure everything? Network topolo...

Ok give me a second:
IPs:
Gateway: 10.0.0.1 (same with dns)
pv0 and pv1 run on 2 seperate nuks connetcted directly to the router on the same vlan.

pv0: 10.0.0.10
pv1: 10.0.0.20

the web interface at 10.0.0.10:8006 is accessible, and through the web shell script I ran the https://tteck.github.io/Proxmox/ script: bash -c "$(wget -qLO - https://github.com/tteck/Proxmox/raw/main/ct/podman-homeassistant.sh)"

it installed successfuly and I can see it on my prox mox. I can see it on my router that it has ip 10.0.0.11, however 10.0.0.11:8123 doesn't resolve.

Screenshot tsunami incoming.

lone pendant
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What’s .11? A vm?

bold ferry
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yea

lone pendant
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Just make a new vm and download haos and install it. Don’t use that script.

blissful holly
# lone pendant And if that’s your focus, can I also suggest <#551871772484698112> - slower conv...

I can do that. I guess I thought here because when I had HA working through VirtualBox, it was working perfectly. I used Scrypted to get the reolink opened to HomeKit, and as HAOS was running, everything was just working perfectly. If I stopped intereacting with it directly, though, it would freeze...so I was looking for a way to get just a base home assistant OS running that wouldn't freeze, because then I'd be in a good spot for further exploration.

brittle sail
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Just setup haos directly and remove the extra layer with proxmox if you don’t want/need it

blissful holly
raven forge
blissful holly
brittle sail
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Then leave proxmox on it lol

raven forge
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I might have been unclear. The waste comment was because only running HAOS on it rather than proxmox, with which you can do a whole lot more, would be a waste of resources

blissful holly
raven forge
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Yep

bold ferry
blissful holly
# raven forge Yep

Okay. So I will continue following this tutorial, and hope I don't somehow expose myself to the world. 😂

blissful holly
raven forge
trail pewter
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where on the sd card will i find the option to manually change the ethernet IPv4 setting from disable to "auto " ? i changed routers this morning to a router that only has WIFI not ethernet, The new router wouldnt assign a IP to HA so i made a mistake an d set the ethernet IPv4 to disable, now im locked out of HA all together so need to perhaps change that back manually

humble mirage
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I'm not sure you can - but you can if you connect a keyboard and monitor

trail pewter
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ok thanks

humble mirage
frank perch
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nmcli is your friend

reef urchin
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is there anywhere to load kernel modules as well? i´ve conected an mt7662u based usb wifi dongle

humble mirage
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In Home Assistant OS? Mostly no

reef urchin
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i can see the firmware file in /lib/firmware, but it looks like as if hassOS does not bring the kernel modules

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the installation use the standard ovo image, so i guess it´s alpine based as far i can tell

humble mirage
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Well, it's BuildRoot based

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That seems to be relatively new, but it's nice to see you can now

vital ibex
blissful holly
vital ibex
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Sounds good! If you're on the right track and not having issues, I don't mean to lead you astray - apologies! It's also true that my experience (and a not-uncommon scenario generally, it seems) is of starting with HomeBridge and eventually getting to a point where it was not able to do everything I wanted to do, which forced me to transition to HA.

blissful holly
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It does look like Homebridge has the capability to run as a background service in MacOS, which I'm assuming means it wouldn't require a virtual machine arrangement....

vital ibex
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I personally wouldn't try to run it on a Mac unless that machine was set up as a server. It's possible, but I would always want my HomeBridge on an always-on machine with server-like capabilities, just as with HA, personally.

blissful holly
vital ibex
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I run it on a RPi although I'm putting HA on a new "server" (an old NUC).

blissful holly
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2.6ghz 4 core intel i7, 16gb ram, 1 tb ssd...

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I got HA running through proxmox, but it doesn't seem to stay on when I close the laptop (I know how to make the system stay awake with the display off and the laptop shut in macos, but I'm at the start of the learning curve with proxmox). 😂

vital ibex
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Oof, that is frustrating. Sorry I can't offer more help, but I wish you the best of luck!

blissful holly
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Thanks. And if all else fails, and I can get homebridge working with the reolink camera and rock solid, that might be a good interim solution while I figure out proxmox. 😂

frigid juniper
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I'm currently running HA in virtual box on a win 10 install. I am thinking of wiping that machine and going full proxmox for vm and containers. I know I can export the VM from Virtual Box for Proxmox, but are there things I should be aware of? passing thru usbs for zigbee and z-wave currently

slow sand
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its connected now

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im waiting for the first boot website

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its booted thanks

primal nymph
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I'm trying to install HA on Proxmox via tteck's script. I keep running into an issue where the supervisor is unhealthy and the install indefinitely loops. I've tried reinstalling the vm, reinstalling Proxmox, and even reseting the internet router that my NUC is hardwired to. Here's a portion of the log from HA trying to install: https://hastebin.com/share/qoxuyarigi.sql

Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this?

raven forge
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Can you share a screenshot of your VM's Hardware tab and your host/node's Network tab?

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

primal nymph
raven forge
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I don't see anything obviously wrong. Would have been too easy. Open the VM's VNC console and run network info

primal nymph
raven forge
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Looks fine as well and if you can ping google then DNS should work too. Maybe a good ol' restart does something

primal nymph
lone pendant
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Isn’t there a vmdk for haos?

frank perch
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There is

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Along with a vdi

copper steppe
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What is contents of this file? Looks like supervisor updated it

3-07-26 12:09:30 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.dns] Updated /etc/resolv.conf

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@primal nymph

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The HAOS VM is going out to your LAN for DHCP incl. DNS. It likely that's not working properly

primal nymph
primal nymph
primal nymph
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For the sake of troubleshooting. I have tried updating the DNS in the DNS tab of the pve to 1.1.1.1 as well as back to 192.168.1.1 to see if that did anything - it did not.

copper steppe
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You shouldn't need to do anything like that in the VM or proxmox. Is 192.168.1.1 your router and LAN dns server?

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What's the network device on your HAOS VM look like?

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Is this the first VM you're running on your proxmox?

primal nymph
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Yup 192.168.1.1 is my router, but my LAN DNS is set to 1.1.1.1. My network device is shown in this screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/KEJe9nw.png

It is my first VM, but it was working previously. I couldn't get anything to download or update in HA about a week ago, and thought a fresh install would fix the issue. Guess not

copper steppe
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Is the gateway on your vm set to 192.168.1.1 ?

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it needs to be able to route via gateway to 1.1.1.1 for internet DNS

primal nymph
copper steppe
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You shouldn't have to do anything in your VM. Should be in proxmox and your router.
that route looks OK

copper steppe
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pass through should work when you configure it. If it's not the same bit of hardware, you should try it side-by-side, before you nuke your old install

blissful holly
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So, installing proxmox (started the process over for...reasons), it wants me to put in something for "management interface". Right now, it says "pve.example.invalid". I'm following the tutorial linked to me, and it doesn't really spell this out, and searches on the matter aren't making sense to me. What do I put in this field? Thanks.

vague hill
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afaik the last two weeks of data (entity data) is written to db after 2 weeks. Where is the intermediate data stored?

raven forge
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Huh? Data is constantly written to the DB

humble mirage
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Are you confusing the fact that by default 10 days of data are kept?

vague hill
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Sorry, 10 days. I recall that for the first 10 days the data is stored elsewhere OR differently, which leads to some data only being accessible to certain frontend cards

humble mirage
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No

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Your memory is faulty

vague hill
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I will reboot my brain then.
Strangely, the reason I asked has now fixed itself.
I was not able to see any data in the frontend (e.g. apexcharts card) from the last 7 days. And history only showed my data > 10 days ago.

Now, after another reboot and having the graph open in a background tab, the data is all there.

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Sorry for false alarm.

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Btw, @humble mirage , I have now switched to container and am making it work without addons (except HACS). More work but let's see how it goes.
Let's see if your advice pays out in the long run 😉

humble mirage
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It will, if you invest in learning ablobwink

vague hill
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Trying to 🙂

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How do you remote edit you /config/ files?
Did you create a fileshare and then remote edit via e.g. VSC?
I always found it quite nice to be able to edit in the HA webUI in VSC when testing.

humble mirage
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So carry on using it?

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Or you can run VSC locally and use SSH for it to access the files

copper steppe
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I think @vague hill is talking about statistics vs recorder

vague hill
humble scaffoldBOT
opaque musk
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Is there a post install checklist ?

humble mirage
opaque musk
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What are common way and tools to manage the configuration of hass, lovelace, automation etc... ?

humble mirage
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Personal preference really

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Many people entirely manage the frontend in the frontend itself, zero YAML

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Some people only use the automation editor, some write YAML, some use external tools

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etc

opaque musk
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On my legacy install i edit yaml, except for the automations

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But I have pretty simple automations yet

humble mirage
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I do everything manually, using vi, but I'm old school

quaint bolt
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I do as much as I can through the ui, only dipping into other files where I can't do it in the ui

frank perch
primal nymph
primal rapids
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What ports are required outbound from HA to get updates?

humble mirage
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At least 443, plus 123/udp for time sync

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There may be other ports, not sure

primal rapids
frank perch
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is your NTP server internal ?

wild crag
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Hey everyone, I could use some assistance with my Home Assistant installation. It seems to be stuck at the message 'Host information reload completed' during startup. I've waited for a while, but nothing seems to be happening beyond this point. Any ideas on what might be causing this and how I can resolve it? Thanks in advance for your help!

frank perch
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what hardware are you on?

copper steppe
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@primal rapids if you have restrictive outbound policy, can't you just monitor your firewall for denies?

frank perch
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what method of install?

wild crag
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pie 4

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flash to sd

frank perch
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HAOS?

wild crag
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one sec

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ya

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nvm i just had to wait and wait and wait

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its done now

frank perch
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yeah on the rpi patience is a virtue

vague hill
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Good morning everyone 🙂
Is there a way to get update notifications in a container installation?
I just read that I have to update via the host rather than from within HA. But a notification would be nice 🙂

low notch
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you can run anything on the host from the container also, if thats suitable for you thats up to you (security wise)

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and yes, create that notification yourself by setting up the appropriate version entities and a automation

grand holly
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Guys i have installed home assistant OS on a laptop, is there any way to turn off the laptop screen and backlight?

wide gale
quaint bolt
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Only downside is that it'll be a 'permanent' change. if you lose network access, it'll be off 'forever' (though I guess you can run the command yourself) that's if you have an automation which runs it on startup.

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might be worth doing it with time delay on restart.

midnight ether
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Hello everyone i have problem running home assistant on raspberry pi inside docker can i ask my problem here?

quaint bolt
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ask away,

humble scaffoldBOT
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Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

  1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
  2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
  3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
  4. What's the exact error message?
  5. When did it arise?
  6. What exactly don't you "get"?
  7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?
midnight ether
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i have installed docker version of hass
when i run this command it works fine
sudo docker run -d --name homeassistant --privileged --restart=unless-stopped -e TZ=Asia/Tehran -v /home/pouya/hass:/config -p 8123:8123 ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable
and i can access HASS Ui from my netwrok
but when i switch to host network it does not work any more
sudo docker run -d --name homeassistant --privileged --restart=unless-stopped -e TZ=Asia/Tehran -v /home/pouya/hass:/config --network=host ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable
i can see the port is listening using sudo netstat -tuln | grep 8123
i am on rasbian ( rasbery pi ) and i dont have any fire wall
i can ssh into my raspberry pi
i tried to disable my ipv6 but nothing has changed

vague hill
vague hill
hazy cobalt
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Hi,
I'm having some trouble that I hope maybe somebody can help me with.
I'm trying to migrate my hassos over to a new server.
Backup and restore isn't working. Have failed no mater what I try.
I'm now trying to transfer the settings and configs over to the new one using ftp.
But what folders do I need to copy over so that the new instance is a duplicate of the old one?
With both network og HA configs? 🙂

humble mirage
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For just HA you'd want the entire contents of your config folder, but there's no way to do that for network settings

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For a restore you may be better off doing a minimal onboarding and then using Samba to upload the backup

hazy cobalt
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regarding the network setting, it is mostl because I want the duckdns also to work after migration

humble mirage
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That'd be add-on settings

hazy cobalt
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what do you mean about minimal onboarding?

humble mirage
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Do the onboarding so you can use the UI to install Samba, and restore

hazy cobalt
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Ah, that's what I have done.
and when I have copied the entire config folder from the old to the new system, but after I have done that, I'm not able to connect to HA. Not with the local IP or duckdns address

humble mirage
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Well, that's because the config folder is only for HA (Core)

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So, nothing about any add-on, nothing about networking, etc

hazy cobalt
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with the fresh install I'm able to do the minimal onboarding on ip ..10.156, but after the transfer I'm not able to connect to that adress any more 🤔

humble mirage
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You need to restore a full backup, not copy the config folder over

hazy cobalt
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and that equals copying the folders addons, backup, config, media, share and ssl? that is accessible thru samba?

humble mirage
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A full backup probably includes more than you'll get from copying those locations

frank perch
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Don't you have to reinstall the addons manually anyway tho Tink?

humble mirage
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Not with backups

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No idea otherwise

frank perch
hazy cobalt
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I'll always be able to reinstall the addons, the problem is to be able to log into ha after restoring the backup on the new hardware

humble mirage
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Restore a backup, it restores everything in the backup, no need to manually do the add-ons

frank perch
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I seem to remember a backup some years ago that had all my addon configs but I had to reinstall the addons manually

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But I'm also old

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Anyway I love that I'm wrong on this one

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Cuz boy that was annoying then again I think I was still on an rpi1B+ at that point

hazy cobalt
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But how should I go forward with to get a full restore when in inbuilt restore is not working?

humble mirage
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When you've restored it should (I believe) use the old IP if you set a static IP before

hazy cobalt
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When I enter the console, the ip is the same.

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But when I go to that ip address, nothing happens

humble mirage
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Reboot?

frank perch
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have you tried turning it off and back on again?

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my pigeons have been bested once again

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I really hate this lag

static gulch
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hello dear respected senior I have issue to start with esp home assistant with the very first step

Open page in your Home Assistant?
and provided with this link
Your instance URL: https://homeassistant.local:8123
but it didnt open web ui

frank perch
static gulch
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, yes it gives an error when I click the open link it says This site can’t be reachedCheck if there is a typo in homeassistant.local.

frank perch
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do you know the IP of HA?

static gulch
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no how to know that if you please guide me

frank perch
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well, you can check your router DHCP list, or you can get to the console of HA

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how is your HA installed? on what hardware?

static gulch
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i didnt did anything cause i jump on esp home web i saw the get started with my ad on so i click it

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and my ip address is 192.168.18.1 i type ipconfig in command and found it

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i have esp32 and i want to use esp home to configure it accordingly is there any thing that need to be done before the ad on?

humble mirage
static gulch
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yes i read them

humble mirage
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Do you just want to use ESPHome, or do you want to use Home Assistant too?

static gulch
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and i have issue with the url this url Home Assistant URL
http://192.168.31.205:8123
Note: This URL is only stored in your browser.

humble mirage
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You don't need Home Assistant to use ESPHome after all

static gulch
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i want both

humble mirage
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Do you have two routers?

static gulch
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yea i try different method

humble mirage
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Well, everything should be on the one network

static gulch
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no i have one router and let me share my ips
Wireless LAN adapter Wi-Fi:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2400:adcc:10c:4100::3
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2400:adcc:10c:4100:9bf7:b98f:dd78:f575
Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2400:adcc:10c:4100:34d9:b8ad:e186:c2e3
Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2400:adcc:10c:4100:aca8:fc91:96fb:509c
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::d6ad:afc4:e299:312d%15
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.18.54
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::1%15
192.168.18.1

humble mirage
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HA should also have an IP starting 192.168.18.

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If it doesn't then you need to fix that

static gulch
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how to fix it ?

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can you give me url to try on

humble mirage
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How did you install Home Assistant?

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Is it in a virtual machine? On a Pi? Something else?

static gulch
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Installing ESPHome Dashboard
The ESPHome Dashboard can be installed as a Home Assistant add-on, which you can find in the add-on store in the Supervisor panel. Open it using the following button then click on INSTALL:

If you do not have the official ESPHome add-on repository added you can add with this button:

Open your Home Assistant instance and show the dashboard of the ESPHome add-on.
After that, wait a bit until it is installed (this can take a while). Click “Start” and then click “Open Web UI”. If you see “502: Bad Gateway” it is currently starting, and you can refresh the page after a couple of seconds.

humble mirage
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Stop

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Stop

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Stop

static gulch
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ok

humble mirage
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Please answer the question

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Is it in a virtual machine?

static gulch
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no

humble mirage
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You flashed HAOS directly to your laptop?

static gulch
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i am using on laptop window i didnt emulate any virtual machine

humble mirage
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So ... where did you install Home Assistant?

static gulch
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no i ddint flash anything yet

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i didnt install it yet i am trying to instal on esp32

humble mirage
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Ah

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You've missed the point of the instructions you linked to

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installed as a Home Assistant add-on

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You have to have installed Home Assistant before you can use Home Assistant

static gulch
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ok can you prefer a link youtube or anything that help my understanding

humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
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There's a link to the Home Assistant install docs in the channel topic

static gulch
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ok

humble mirage
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And there, in the bot message

static gulch
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thanks and sorry for messing up i wil follow it thanks it help me alot

humble mirage
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No worries, it's easy to miss the woods for the trees

haughty hedge
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He guys I'm gonna switch from smarthings to home assistant. I read that a Thin client a good replacement is instead of a rpi. Which one do you guys recommended?

humble mirage
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Whatever fits in your budget and requirements - but #hardware-archived has a long history of recommendations

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You want a CPUMark of over 900 (Pi4 equivalent) - I'd suggest 2000 or better, at least 4 GB of RAM (more if you want to run lots of add-ons), and at least 32 GB of disk space (but again, more is better)

hazy vine
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do i have to use etcher to make the install usb from? i extracted the img and wrote that to a usb and when i booted from it it took me directly to the HA CLI 🤔

brittle sail
haughty hedge
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Is the Dell Wyse 5060 good ennough ?

brittle sail
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for the price thin clients arent really worth it in my opinion

final socket
# hazy vine do i have to use etcher to make the install usb from? i extracted the img and wr...

There is no "install USB", it's not like a Linux distro or whatever where you make a live USB, boot it, and install to the internal drive. What you did is install HAOS to the USB drive. You want to create a live Linux USB (or make a Ventoy USB, which is an extremely useful tool you should take a look at it), and then etch the target device's internal drive from the Linux you booted.
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64

rare ivy
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hi folks, i think this is the channel to ask about tech problems? wonder if anyone can give me some tech help. i blew up my previously working HA instance - totally my fault, but i do have a backup so i don't need to recover the data (yet). basically i tried to rearrange the storage SSDs i was using on my ARM board, but messed it up. trouble is, my ARM board is not booting without the SSD available. i'm using the HASS image on an ODROID XU4. it seems to stop at the 'Launching Home-Assistant CLI' screen. no ports are open. is my only option to reimage the device? i'm a Linux professional so if i can fix it without a reinstall, i'm not afraid of the command line. any help appreciated

tepid steeple
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looking for help on a corrupted HA boot disk on RPI after lightening strike, now it will not boot, I have it on a RPI as a USB mounted card reader, it shows 5 partitions and 2 wont mount, how to I rescue the disk

humble mirage
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Are you using Windows?

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Windows doesn't know how to read the file systems Linux uses

tepid steeple
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it is on a RPI as a USB mounted sd card reader

rare ivy
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so you've booted the Pi into Linux from its own SD card and are trying to access the HA SD card that way?

tepid steeple
rare ivy
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try fsck /dev/sdXN where X is the card reader and N is the partition number that won't mount

humble mirage
rare ivy
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if it starts asking questions, ping us back before answering them

humble mirage
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You want the data partition

tepid steeple
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sorry newbie here, can i upload image here to show you of screen shot I have?

rare ivy
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looks like you need to upload the screenshot to Imgur first and link it here, not upload it directly

rare ivy
tepid steeple
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thanks. here are the images

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thanks for the link, now at least seems reasonable to have so many partitions, when i inserted disk, it said disk 3 and 5 would not mount due to error

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can you help with the exact commands to try to rescue this?

humble mirage
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Can you mount hassos-data?

hazy vine
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im at the onboarding start page, is it cool to shutdown the machine from here and boot it back up to the same spot when im ready to migrate/restore from backup?

tepid steeple
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sorry can you be more specific on command line? Like "sudo mount hassos-data"

hazy vine
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and if yes, is there a safe way to shutdown from the ha cli 🤔 it doesnt like shutdown

humble mirage
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Otherwise you need to know what the device path is for it

tepid steeple
rare ivy
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that is what you should see, so the partition is intact

tepid steeple
rare ivy
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i would definitely back up the contents of the data partition somewhere safe

humble mirage
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The disk took a hit from lightning, don't assume it'll keep working

hazy vine
rare ivy
humble mirage
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Well, toast, or just failing

rare ivy
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it's possible it's just messed up the headers or similar, i've seen that before on unsafe shutdowns and the disk is fine, but the #1 priority is to salvage the data before messing with it

tepid steeple
rare ivy
tepid steeple
rare ivy
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that does appear to be not good

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can't actually read the error message, can you scroll to the right?

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if it's Permission Denied, then that's sort of expected

tepid steeple
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Yeah I think it was permission denied as I just tried to go to docker folder and it said that and all i see is empty

rare ivy
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that is expected, yes. @humble mirage know if it would break everything resetting permissions on those folders to back up?

tepid steeple
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the docker folder seem to be all empty but the supervisor folder seems to be intact

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In the supervisor there is a backup folder with numerous tar files

rare ivy
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those are automatic backups. definitely salvage those

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the docker folder probably holds the images that can just be downloaded again, but don't quote me on that

tepid steeple
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so what should I do now that I have backup?

rare ivy
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can you plug whatever PC/Pi you were running HA on into a screen and see what happens when you try to boot it?

tepid steeple
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ok will try and get back to you.

rare ivy
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if it's a Pi and it doesn't give a colour splash after a few seconds, then the boot partition is problematic

tepid steeple
tepid steeple
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good news kinda, it seems to have booted up fine ..(oddly) and through my browser I got a login screen, but it wont accept my password, dont know if my credentials got corrupted or i simply lost my login info. Any way to reset it?

humble mirage
frank perch
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I can't find that on the bot anymore tink

tepid steeple
# humble mirage <https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/locked_out/>

thanks @humble mirage and @rare ivy I am in, somehow the SD disk decided to work again and I was able to reset my password using external screen and keyboard with CLI line. Thanks guys, you saved me hour and days of headache!! Now on to figuring out what happend to my ISY-994i, the lightening might have blew the board. The lightening strike last night was actually in the local news, it blew apart someone's chimney!!

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Thanks again guys

humble mirage
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Now is a good time to set up backups

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(and they're only backups if they're off the computer you're backing up)

brittle sail
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so backons?

humble mirage
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backdowns 😛

frank perch
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you mean I shouldn't store all my backups on the device I don't want to fail?

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seems inefficient

rare ivy
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and effort

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i just use prayers

humble mirage
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I know somebody who once set a backup server to back itself up, to itself

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That ended poorly, pretty quickly

frank perch
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Tink half the IT world does foolishness like that

humble mirage
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Only half?

frank perch
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and wonder "why is the backup of the 100mb files 6.78TB"

humble mirage
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Like the OS auditing subsystem which when set to log writes, included the audit log location in that filter, so logged the fact that it logged a write to the audit log

frank perch
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actually had that problem with Avaya PBX's they would backup the backup dir too

tepid steeple
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and in the system tools, there is a tool for backup, what files are being back up and what is the method for restoring?

humble mirage
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For HAOS you can use #add-ons-archived to push the backup to the cloud, or mount a network file share

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For other installs you've got more options

frank perch
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I mount a network file share and backup to that

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works pretty fast considering my backup size is like 671mb

rare ivy
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that happens far more often than sysadmins want to admit

frank perch
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more often than not it's more like "wait, did we setup a backup yet?

tepid steeple
rare ivy
brittle sail
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although if it's a big backup iirc it's best to copy it over after setting up a fresh install? havent tried in a while

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should be in the docs he linked

humble mirage
tepid steeple
brittle sail
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yep

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i have haos backing up to my local nextcloud instance using an addon

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although now it would be easier to just use an nfs share

frank perch
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Smart I had a question for you and I old manned it

rare ivy
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mine was backing up to a USB SSD but i just moved it over to an NFS share on my NAS, which gets backed up to tape

brittle sail
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lol

tepid steeple
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ok, Back to my original problem, I was able to see it on my test station, now I plug it back into its proper location and it boots up, i see it in my router being connected but I can't log in, and when I ping it , it says host is is down!

brittle sail
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i think it's actually cheaper to have a ssd/nvme nas than buy tapes these days

frank perch
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shit that reminds me I have a tape drive somewhere

rare ivy
brittle sail
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ya but arent the tapes themselves just going up in price as time goes on?

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and even if they arent, isnt it so slow to both read and write that you're basically just doing it for the lulz?

rare ivy
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depends if you stick with the generation, then they generally go down, and tape will saturate the SAS interface

brittle sail
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so it's just slow reads if you ever need the data?

rare ivy
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nope, a restore will also saturate the interface

brittle sail
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LTO-4: Generation 4 products reached the market in 2007 and provided a native storage capacity of up to 800 GB and a compressed capacity of up to 1.6 terabytes (TB). The maximum native data transfer rate was 120 MBps, and the maximum compressed transfer rate was 240 MBps.

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you using some new shit?

rare ivy
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personally, LTO-5

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we have LTO-8 and -9 at work

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those'll saturate 10Gb ethernet

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doing a full restore from tape will basically use all the bandwidth it can get its hands on. what's slow is picking out a single file from that backup

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tapes have surprisingly high sequential speeds for reads and writes, better than HDDs, but their random reads/writes are dire

rare ivy
rare ivy
tepid steeple
brittle sail
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lol

rare ivy
tepid steeple
rare ivy
tepid steeple
frank perch
rare ivy
tepid steeple
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Did network info and came back nothing interesting. Listed all the interfaces with not data , or blank

Yes the port lights are on and seems like the router is seeing it
I even plugged in a wireless dongle and came back empty address also.

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Booting same hardware setup with a standard RPI boot disk that I know works and see what happens

frank perch
tender wren
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Is a DHCP server on that network?

tepid steeple
tepid steeple
tender wren
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Have you tried to turn the router off and on?

tepid steeple
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I just was able to boot into the same hardware with a different boot sd card .. a raspian os. And was able to ping into it fine,

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I don’t trust this sd card or image anymore. Can some guide me how to start fresh and load the backup into it. Can I do this headless? Or do I need keyboard, mouse and monitor and can I load the backup through thumb drive on RPI?

tender wren
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Do you have a downloaded copy of a backup?

frank perch
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You'd have to reimage a new SD card, and then during onboarding you can upload the backup to restore from

tepid steeple
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Yes have a copy of the data partition files. Don’t like 1 hour ago

tepid steeple
frank perch
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you won't need a mouse

tepid steeple
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And do I upload the backup from a usb thumb drive?

frank perch
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im not sure if you can upload it from a thumb drive specifically as I've not had to do it since it was introduced

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but I know you can upload a backup

tepid steeple
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Is there a link to write up about the restore process ?

frank perch
tender wren
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As you don't have a backup tarball, it might not be as easy. Never did a data partition transplant

frank perch
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you can upload the backup from the machine you are using to onboard HA

tender wren
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Or did you do a backup in the web UI and downloaded that? 🤔

tepid steeple
tepid steeple
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question, so I do have to decrypt the tar files to individual files for upload or do I upload just the one tar file?

frank perch
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you're using HAOS?

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if so, just upload the entire backup tar file

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if not, GLHF

tepid steeple
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What are you refering to exactly "entire backup"? I assumed just the latest one tar file from the backup folder

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not sure what you mean by GLHF

tender wren
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If you are using HAOS you can upload that tar file. With other install methods you might have to extract stuff from it.

tepid steeple
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thank you!

frank perch
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aka I'm not much help with that method of a restore

frank perch
tepid steeple
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GLHV. HHAHA. not yet, wiill celebrate when it is up and running!! I am at the upload backup stage, before I choose the file,I noticed the backup tarfiles, are all different sizes some in like 50MB and some are 10KB , my last backup which is like 3 months old is only 10KB, I cant imagine this will be the whole backup, what am I missing here?

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wish the instructions were more specific on which files to upload for restoring backup! I can't believe my backup is only 10kb!

frank perch
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my first ever backup was larger than that, and I did it right after I setup

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so I'm not confident that's the 'right' backup to load

tepid steeple
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OK i am gonna try one that is 19MB fingers crossed!

frank perch
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my last backup was 691mb

tepid steeple
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either your system is huge or obviously I am missing something!!

frank perch
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it's not that big, but I'm doing lots of stuff

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my initial backup was 0.5mb

tepid steeple
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it seems like the backup files are complete/differential. including system updates. So maybe before os update it does a full copy, but with a fresh image I assume the OS does not need to be updated just the configuration files. This restore does not make much sense to me. I would think restoring configuration should not be that complicatied or big files. But hey I am not a noob!!

frank perch
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yeah you can have full or partial backups

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most addons do a partial backup before they update for example

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I don't do that, I only do full backups

tepid steeple
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yeah exactly, and addon backups are different files than system backups, so how do you know if you are restoring correcly by just uploading ONE File!

frank perch
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well I name my backups with the date it was made and _full in the file name

blissful holly
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Okay, so the good news is that after a good day and a half to two days of testing, Home Assistant in Proxmox is rock solid. No freezing or crashing issues like I had before. The bad news is that I can't get anything to transfer over to Home. Even adding HA as a bridge in Homekit just hangs and then fails. Still, progress! I think I'm going to start from scratch with HAOS, and hold off on installing things like Scrypted, etc, until I've got just the basic things figured out. 😂

tawdry kindle
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Hi all, for a small HA deployment at the summer house, would a Pi4 with a 32gb USB flash drive be enough?

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I guess it's 32gb or more so the size should be fine. Though I am not sure to what bottlenecks will I get myself by using a 10 year old usd stick

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It's a HyperX

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Any thoughts?

raven forge
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Enough for what? Do you already own the pi?

tawdry kindle
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Yes and the drive

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I will just integrate with my heat pump, weather station, a few Shelly switches and a power meter.

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Not planning on any computationally intensive tasks

raven forge
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In that case I don't see why not. SD cards or sticks are usually not very reliable (just google raspberry corruption) or fast anyway.
32GB is the recommended minimum so that's fine. We usually recommend a SSD on a powered USB hub for the reasons above.

tawdry kindle
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I'll take this under consideration and maybe sacrifice my 120gb SSD in an enclosure

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I think it's an old Samsung 850 or there about

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Won't have a powered hub so will have to sacrifice that stability benefit

raven forge
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Pis can't seem to reliable power a SSD on its own so I wouldn't recommend that

tawdry kindle
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Even with a large original power brick?

raven forge
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I don't know why exactly it's not up to the task so I can only speculate. I don't own a pi myself any more and people usually are out the door once they fixed their problem so there's little additional feedback besides that fixed it, if at all.
All I know is that I remember at least 4 people whose various file-system related problems were fixed by using a powered HUB and that the long-term supporters here suggest the same.

tawdry kindle
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So I guess it's back to the 32gb stick for the moment

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If it fails I'll build it anew with something more robust

raven forge
tawdry kindle
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I am planning on settings it up with tailscale (which I have for my network) and having it offload through Samba onto my Unraid at the other location.

rough gust
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Thanks for the beauty features, wonder if i can boot the haos into my laptop which does not have ethernet port ? please help

raven forge
nova depot
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I have a question about a Command Line Switch.
I want a switch that if set to on, sends an SSH command and if the command is executed, sets the switch back to off.
As an example:
Switch ON -> ssh test@test 'apt update && apt upgrade -y'
------- Wait for installation ------
All updates installed -> Switch OFF
The switch on command is easy to create but how can I do the switch off?
I want the switch to be set to off automatically after the command is finished.

tender wren
runic venture
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Howdy howdy - not certain if this is installations or general given it's about core functionality. I just finally got proxmox set up and working and stuck my HA environment on it and I'm not noticing these spitting constantly into the console - can anyone explain what this actually means and what I should look at doing to resolve it?

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https://imgur.com/a/c64o7Wi
"[ some kind of string] systemd-journald[115]: Failed to rotate /var/lib/longassstring/system.journal: Read-only file system"

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I note that some of my devices seem not to be initialising - I've just got this thing up and running so there might be some faulting services in HA that are causing this
I'm ALSO getting this on trying to do
login and
docker logs hassio_dns
[ERROR] plugin/errors: 2 . NS: dial tcp 1.0.0.1:853: i/o timeout
[INFO] 127.0.0.1: port - port "NS IN . udp 17 false 512" NOERROR - 0 30.00etc

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Hope that journal location isn't private xd

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No repairs available, by the way.
I might be getting multiple errors or faults due to the same thing, or getting several different ones - I'm new to both proxmox and linux so errors, console messages vs. popups and all of that is still very alien to me. Sorry if this is noob level to you!

runic venture
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I'll add some extra in-system screenshots but of course understand if those aren't related to the above and so need to go elsewhere! Just reply or ping me when you reply by the way and thanks in advance!

Adding; looks like I have another network issue. Stuff can't get online...

opaque musk
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Hello, I want to make yearly monitoring of temp and humidity using some zigbee / zha sensors, Is HA good at displaying long charts, or should I use something like grafana ? What database should I use ?

fallen lichen
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Timeseries DB like Influx or VictoriaMetrics are good choices w/ Grafana... folks in #analytics-archived might have more details, too

opaque musk
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It works ! thank you

dusky peak
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hey, I am trying to migrate my docker installed HA to another system. I copied the complete folder including the database and docker-compose file. After restarting it on the new system it looks good in the logs and the fronend works. But it doesn't allow me to login

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are the user + pwd salted?

humble mirage
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Did you remember to copy all the hidden files and folders?

dusky peak
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i used rsync -aP so I think this should be fine

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the log also say "invalid authentication"

humble mirage
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I've cloned my entire config folder to other hosts before and been able to log in just fine

dusky peak
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hmm really strange

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just logged into the old system to be sure my saved password is correct

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ah .storage/auth was not accessible for the user 🙂

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just missed the warning during the sync

marsh plaza
#

I am trying KVM installation of home assistant but problem is there are too many network sources to try from and I am getting failed on network manager wait online start

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any ideas how to find the correct network bridge (ubuntu)?

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oh maybe the problem is using wifi ?

humble mirage
#

Wired is the right choice for a server

rare ivy
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okay, so i went the nuclear option and reimaged my XU4. freshly downloaded 10.4 install onto the eMMC. however, when everything is hooked up, i get

[WARN] Home Assistant CLU not starting! Jump into emergency console...```
it has an IP address via DHCP but no open ports (again).
any idea what could cause this to happen on a blank device?
humble mirage
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It was plugged into the network and has Internet access?

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You're not doing any filtering, redirecting, or anything to make things more "secure"?

rare ivy
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nothing in particular, no. HA has internet access and is on my general-use VLAN

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even more interesting, it didn't recognise the USB keyboard i pugged in. had to reboot the XU4

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okay, this time i get the HA ASCII art

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web UI loaded. okay, panic over

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🤞 the backup restores...

rare ivy
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i started the restore and the web UI switched off. it's still on its DHCP IP rather than the static one configured in the backup. should there be any backup progress somewhere? i have the CLI open

rare ivy
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okay, first restore did not work. i had to upload the .tar through the web UI and then restore it through the CLI. then for good measure, it restored most things (such as my SSL certificate) but did not restore the IPv4 config, which i had to delve into the CLI to fix. oh, and ha network update eth0 did not work for me, it kept giving errors about unrecognised option: device so i had to login and use nmcli

dire storm
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Can anyone help me? I bought my HAOS machine off eBay, pre-configured. It's been working great and I've been accessing it remotely via DuckDNS and port forwarding - I just swapped to a new router/switch and now I can't figure out how to get back into HA.

I had SambaShare, but it seems to not be showing up as available for me to connect to via my desktop network. I can see the computer in my network control panel, see that it has an IP, but when I try to ping that IP or browse that IP it says unreachable.

At this point I'm just trying to figure out how (if?) I can connect remotely to disable the DuckDNS external routing so I can reconfigure. What do I do here? Do I connect a monitor/keyboard/mouse to the HAOS machine? Will that give me anything? Even a CLI? Not really sure.

raven forge
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A keyboard + monitor is a good choice

dire storm
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What am I going to see when I connect? Linux?

raven forge
#

A command-line where you can run commands to figure out things like which ip it is set up to use and which method to get it, for example.
And yes. HAOS is based on linux

dire storm
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The console says "a start job is running...* And then eventually says FAILED to start network manager wait online"

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Actually now it's on HA CLI waiting for supervisor to start

raven forge
#

Try supervisor logs and network info

dire storm
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Network info I think says I don't have a valid IP but I don't really know how to read any of it lol

raven forge
#

Make a picture and share it

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

dire storm
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My docker IP is 172.x.x.x, which I know is invalid but is that right?

raven forge
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That's fine. It's the container network

dire storm
raven forge
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Are you plugged in via ethernet?

dire storm
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I have Ethernet connected yes

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The Ethernet port is showing solid green and flashing orange on the PC and green on the switch

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So I have an Ethernet port in but I'm not getting an IP?

raven forge
#

It's set up as auto so should get an ip via DHCP. You can try to set it staticly for now
ha network update enp1s0 --ipv4-method static --ipv4-address 192.168.1.230/24 --ipv4-gateway 192.168.1.1
Replace the ips with your network details.
If that gets you access you can configure networking via the UI or leave it as is: https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/network/
Or run this but this didn't seem to work for you ha network update enp1s0 --ipv4-method auto

dire storm
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I keep getting "context deadline exceeded" when I run commands up update the network

raven forge
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Can you show me a picture of that? Also one of supervisor logs

dire storm
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Actually it worked, I guess my command just wasn't complete. It's showing a static now

raven forge
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Reboot and see if you can access it via the newly configured ip. But if DHCP doesn't work there's probably something wrong.
We can probably tell you more after seeing the supervisor logs.

dire storm
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Something wrong with HA or my network? Cuz everything else got an IP no issue

raven forge
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Don't know. Didn't see the logs and networking is complicated. You can try plugging the ethernet cable to your laptop or something and see if it gets an ip and in what range.

dire storm
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Well I'm staring at my HA dashboard now so, that "worked".

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The cable I'm using does assign IP to my desktop, same cable so it's not that

raven forge
#

I'd try to set it up to use DHCP again via the link above.

dire storm
#

Might just reboot the router after the wife goes to sleep, maybe it's just stuck in a routing table somewhere

raven forge
#

There could be a MAC filter or something as well. You can never know 😄

dire storm
#

Thanks for your help, at least I can access now while I troubleshoot. WAF restored

willow oracle
#

My HA is running at 100% CPU load since 2023.7.2
It looks Python3 process is eating my CPU
It happend after one of the recent core updates

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I run HA in Proxmox VM on i5 NUC 11th gen. and Python3 in HA shows 400% CPU usage

raven forge
runic venture
raven forge
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Can you run df -h in the VNC console of the VM? Enter login first

runic venture
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Thanks dude, adding that screenshot to the link

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Hopefully tha helps, doesn't make a lot of sense to me

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I had to try to squeeze it inbetween spammed journal errors

raven forge
#

Looks like file system corruption. I just wanted to make sure you were not running out of space or something. Does the datastore in proxmox have enough space available? I'd probably recommend a backup, reinstall and restore. Basically detach the disk, import the ova and then restore from your latest backup

runic venture
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Interesting! Yeah I gave it the default 32, then later added some more to it. Unless doing that caused the corruption (doesn't feel right for a VM host to cause faults with in use disk when adding more but maybe proxmox isn't as clean as vmware?)

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Tbh this is a backup of a system running on baremetal which was a backup of a system running in virtualbox... It's probably time to start from scratch

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Do you think that'd fix the network connectivity problems in HA as well?

raven forge
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Giving it more space is fine. HAOS will grow the FS. It's just that you can allocate more space than you have to a VM and if it actually uses it you're in trouble

runic venture
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Hmm... I only gave it a max of 96 gb on a 500 gb disk - I wouldn't think it would have run into any problems

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guess it's possible though!

raven forge
#

Once you got that running I (or someone else who's available) can help you troubleshoot the networking issues

runic venture
#

So do you reckon I should just blast it away and set it up from scratch? Think that's my best bet?

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Were it windows, i'd probably be thinking so

raven forge
#

Also check dmesg -T. Might contain something useful about the IO errors

runic venture
#

aa

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massive spam

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Hold up I snapped a quick screenshot of some of it

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See if this helps at all

raven forge
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My recommendation is to power it off, detach the disk and then import the OVA and boot from that. Then restore a backup that was not stored in the VM. No loss of anything that way. In the future you could just restore the whole VM if you have backups set up. Good idea to have both though

runic venture
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Hmm, okay. Let me see what I can do

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Thank you for your help!

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Yeah; if I can actually get this thing working reliably for once, I'll take and keep full backups properly for DR

willow oracle
raven forge
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Click the profiler.start link but no

willow oracle
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i have generated two files calling the service

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but have no idea what to do with both of them

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do i need to install SnakeViz and Gprof2dot?

raven forge
#

SnakeWiz is enough and easier as it has no additional dependencies

willow oracle
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After i have opened .cprof file with snakeviz, how can I find the source of trouble?

raven forge
willow oracle
#

I have identified following Method in in python3.11 causing trouble
~:0(<method 'poll' of 'select.epoll' objects>)

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Do you know what can it be?

raven forge
#

That's not helpful but check your PMs

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Can't really see much either. It's probably one of your integrations

rigid quiver
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Hi, I have bought myself a Rpi 4 B and I have written the Home assistant os onto an Kingston SSD and I have written the USB bootloader onto the micro sd card.
With everything plugged in (SSD over usb, micro sd card and Ethernet) the green ACT light is still flashing even after waiting for 30+ minutes.

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Does anyone know how to fix this issue?

humble mirage
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Can you plug in a keyboard and monitor to see what's going on?

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The Pi4 should be able to boot directly from the SSD

rigid quiver
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Do I need a special hdmi cable for that?

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If yes then I probably can't

humble mirage
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Possibly... shrug

rigid quiver
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I have tried to install the home assistant os already before that but with the Ethernet cable not plugged in so I pulled the power cable, connected Ethernet and connected the power again so maybe that changed something to go wrong

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But I rewrote the os onto the ssd and the bootloader to the micro SD before Plugin in the power again to be sure no files are corrupted

humble mirage
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You don't need the SD card

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the Pi4 can boot from the SSD

rigid quiver
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So if I plug in the ssd without Plugging in an SD it just bootes from the ssd?

humble mirage
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To configure your Raspberry PI 4 to boot from a USB drive, you just need to enable this feature inside the boot code, stored in EEPROM. And here’s the best part: Most Raspberry PI 4 boards enable this feature by default! Only a small batch of early Raspberry PI 4 boards shipped with this feature disabled.

rigid quiver
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How can I acess the boot code / EEPROM?

humble mirage
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Only a small batch of early Raspberry PI 4 boards shipped with this feature disabled

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You almost certainly don't have to

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If you do, Google is your friend

humble mirage
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If the SD is still good then just move it over and the Pi will boot up fine

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They're great educational toys 😛

frank perch
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just clone your SD card

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to another one

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and have a spare pi

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that's what I did when I ran on a pi

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I have since seen the light

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if you use the same sort of SD cards cloning one to the next is easy

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and then you can always restore a backup to get "current"

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that's not quite the same as what I meant

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I meant read the SD card to an image and flash that image to the card

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copying the contents might not get all hidden folders etc

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Win32DiskImager is good for windows

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But that link has it all

low notch
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ddis 👑

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every time i tried linux fs on windows it ended catastrophically. I don't touch it anymore

tender wren
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Restarting the USG or UDM sometimes solves DHCP issues.

frank perch
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yes the UDM likes to be reboot

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I don't have any of these issues you do, no UDM, no rpi4 and no wife LOL

rigid quiver
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Although the blinking seems a little slower than before

fleet anvil
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hello, has anyone encounter a error when onboarding. i used f12 to check for any errors on my browser and im getting this error "homeassistant.local:8123/manifest.json 404 (Not Found)"

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any help would be great appreciated

green anvil
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I am at a lost. I am not the smartest, and im sure its something simple, but I can not get HA to install and run on anything. I am currently trying to get it installed running on a windows machine in VMware. Everything seems to load fine, I get to the PREPARING HOME ASSISTANT, and thats where it always fails.

frank perch
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Fails?

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Or maybe you didn't wait long enough?

green anvil
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5 hours?

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Started the last install at 3pm, almost 6pm my time

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its almost 6 pm now. So almost 3 hours on this install.

frank perch
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I've seen it take that long

green anvil
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I just grabbed a PI4 out of the closet that Im not using. Going to attempt to install it on that, and I will let it run overnight and see if I have better luck.

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Atleast that will eliminate if its a problem with my VMware configuration.

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Just getting lots of Server Errors... and timeouts

copper steppe
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How's your internet, and your DNS? Are you wired or wireless? Problems are at least 50% DNS hahah

green anvil
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decent internet, dns is flaky lol, wired

copper steppe
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Why is dns flakey? Are you using local dsn resolver? or your ISP? Or public (google, cloudflare)

trim mural
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i'm sure it's been mentioned, but with the latest build of HA, I can't use Chrome to set it up. no biggie, edge works fine.

green anvil
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public, I didnt have my damn network configured right in the VM. Its working great now

pastel raft
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Update: Restore finished after 1h21m!! Sorry for the interruption.

Hi all, I'm attempting to move from a Pi4 to an x86 machine, and (I think I) am having trouble with the restore process.

I imaged the drive on the x86 box, and was able to get to the onboarding page. From there I uploaded the backup, but apparently there is no way to check the status of the restore. I ended up powering down the system, and trying again later. Most recently, I created a throwaway account and did the restore from the web UI, but I'm getting the same results (can't access the web interface, but the observer says everything is ok).

I've checked the CLI, and, according to "supervisor stats", the system is apparently using 100% of one of the cores on the machine, so I guess it's still restoring, but we're at 53minutes now, which seems excessive for a 250mb restore on an i5-6500T (which, while old, should be quite a bit faster than the Pi 4 I'm upgrading from).

Something else of note, I haven't plugged in the various USB devices that I use (SDR, ZigBee, and Z-wave radios) because they're still on the Pi4, and the Pi4 is still on the network.

Is there any way to see if it's actually restoring? Any suggestions? Should I expect the system to take several hours to restore?

rigid quiver
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My raspberry pi 4 doesn't boot from USB. I tried installing home assistant os onto the sd card and it worked fine but when removing the sd card and only plugging in the ssd with home assistant os on it the green act light just flashes infinitely

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Can anyone help me?

humble mirage
keen pollen
rigid quiver
humble mirage
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You didn't say what you'd done, or not done, so .... how are we to know?

rigid quiver
humble mirage
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All the way back there, because we do scroll back and read everything you've ever posted zany

rigid quiver
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Well you answered to that question so I thought you knew

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Anyway maybe the EEPROM is corrupted?
Idk I read that in a forum post so could that be the cause?

rigid quiver
lament basin
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I noticed now that there are two places to set the language. Under profile and under Settings > System > General. But only when i change the language via the profile setting the GUI changes to the set the language. Is the language setting under Settings > System > General obsolet?

humble mirage
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Default language used by Home Assistant. This may, for example, influence the language used by voice assistants

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The UI defaults to using your browser language if there's no language set in the profile

lament basin
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Hmm confusing. My language ind the profile is german and under Settings > System > General set to english, but when i open Voice Assistant the dialog is german.

humble mirage
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Right, because the dialog is in the UI

lament basin
humble mirage
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However, if you just call a TTS service, it'll default to English

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Anything without a reason to be otherwise will default to English, because you told HA that the default is English

lament basin
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Ok, understood, thx

tardy walrus
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Hello, I've followed the Raspberry Pi installation guide (I have an RP4), and made it to the onboarding screen. However, I went to go restore from a backup (backup is a partial backup from 2022.6 I believe), and it showed that it was restoring, but port 8123 is no longer responding. I did a port scan and found port is open 4357, which reports via a browser:

Supervisor:    Connected
Supported:    Supported
Healthy:    Healthy

Anyone have any idea how I can recover from this state? Port 8123 reports it's closed.

raven forge
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Might take a while. Try if supervisor logs in the HA CLI has anything interesting/recent

tardy walrus
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How can I access the CLI? I'm installing it via the HAOS method, not docker. I don' t know how I can access the Pi to retrieve more logs. SSH is closed as far as I can tell.

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Also it's been 12 hours 🙂

raven forge
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Connect a keyboard and monitor

tardy walrus
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I don't have access to a mini-HDMI. I presume there is no other option at the moment based on those facts?

raven forge
tardy walrus
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@raven forge Ok, thank you for the ideas

empty bloom
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FYI, I alwyas add SSH & samba share to my machines so that I have 2 ways of looking at (some of the) logs.

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If HA isn't running but the rest of the containers are, you'd have access via SSH and Samba share

tardy walrus
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Good idea. After this struggle, I will do that for the future. Thanks.

raven forge
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You could re-flash, install the addon and then try the restore again

tardy walrus
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Thanks folks. Appreciate the ideas!

placid frost
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Is there an official minimum-spec for HomeAssistant OS? Aka could I run it comfortably on a Wyse 3040 thinclient?

fallen lichen
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It really depends what you plan on doing with it. It's hardly more powerful than a Pi 4, so it'll likely run with no issue, but if you want to do any video processing, etc, definitely not comfortable

frank perch
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not really, and yes it will

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darn it

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I hate these pigeons

fallen lichen
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milliseconds 🙃

frank perch
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well then I guess it's not so bad, as I usually measure lag in seconds

placid frost
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Gotcha. Just curious. I'm running it in a VM now, but I'm thinking of trying to lower power consumption in my apartment but /shrug/

fallen lichen
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Depending on your budget... the N100 mini PCs are quite capable w/ low power usage

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also, modern

frank perch
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my SFF PC draws about 75W and it's much beefier than a rpi or wyze

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I used to be that guy that swore by rpi's, now I only swear at them

wraith flicker
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Hi Folks, sorry in advance if this isn't the right place to ask for help with an issue but I'm currently stuck unable to upgrade my HAOS to 10.x and not sure how to fix this. I've raised an issue on github but its gone a bit stale and I need some help https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues/2522

frank perch
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But what's the errors

tropic hill
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There isn't a clear migration path from supervised to container, is there?

humble scaffoldBOT
#

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frank perch
tropic hill
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You mean the whole hassio directory?

frank perch
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Usually the config folder but I stand to be corrected

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You'd also have to spin up your own containers for the additional things

wraith flicker
frank perch
tropic hill
frank perch
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Well you'd lose the supervisor going that way

wraith flicker
# frank perch Yes

System is unsupported because AppArmor is working incorrectly and add-ons are running in an unprotected and insecure way. Use the link to learn more and how to fix this.

tropic hill
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Yes, I'm kind of done babysitting it.

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I have a supervised installed from years ago and it's not happy that I'm maintaining a lot of other parts of Debian separately outside of HA.

copper steppe
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Which sff? My thinkcentre are about 10W

eager geyser
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Hi, i noticed a few times already that my HA reverted to an older version when restarting HA.
Automations, dashboards, settings disappear or reappear.
Am i doing something wrong?
I just restarted again.. and its back to the new version.

humble mirage
#

What's your install method?

eager geyser
humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
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Use the link there to find out

eager geyser
humble scaffoldBOT
#

@eager geyser When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

humble mirage
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Then I have no idea why it's misbehaving that way, maybe somebody else will

eager geyser
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ok thank you

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i only restart HA itself i believe, not the OS.

tender wren
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A host reboot can't hurt

wraith flicker
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That does sound a bit like the behaviour I'm getting with HAOS. I have been trying for ages to upgrade from 9.5 to 10.x but it never works and I usually end up rebooting and finding I'm back on 9.4 when I was on 9.5

raven forge
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Might want to take a look at the supervisor logs

eager geyser
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I will have alook at the supervisor logs as well, thank you for the input!

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Lol, ok.. just noticed.. my update worked fine.
But my system got reverted again.
Restarting again..
After the update everything is up to date and i am back to the correct version of HA

wraith flicker
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My supervisor logs dont show any issues, only info messages

frosty hawk
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Hi everyone, I'm hoping someone can help me. My HA installation broke yesterday and I can no longer access the HA front-end, but automations and Alexa control still seem to work.

I had a working Home Assistant installation in a Docker container (using Docker Compose), accessible from outside my home network using Nginx Reverse Proxy and a personal domain I own. Two days ago I was attempting to add another image to the docker-compose.yml file, and noticed after starting up the containers that I can no longer access the HA frontend at all. If I try to navigate to the server IP and port that HA runs on, my browser says it can't connect to the server. If I try to connect using the hostname I defined in nginx reverse proxy, I get taken to a page with the Home Assistant logo telling me it can't connect and will attempt again in 60 seconds. If I wait and let it try again, I get taken to a generic "502 bad gateway" page like when I try to connect via IP and port. I then stopped my containers, removed the docker image I added, and then started up again, but the issue persists.

I run several other docker containers which also use nginx reverse proxy and they're all working fine. I've taken these steps to try to resolve the issue:

  • Confirmed Nginx Reverse Proxy settings were correct for the HA hostname
  • Renewed SSL certificate (LetsEncrypt) through NginxProxyManager
  • Restarted HA container
  • Rebuilt HA container
  • Restarted host computer
  • Started over with just a docker-compose.yml file and let HA rebuild itself
  • The same step, but running docker system prune first to make sure all unused/stale containers/images were removed

I found several threads on the HA forum with things to try, but none of them worked for me. One that did, however, is that I can open a Bash contianer into the container HA is running in, and ping 127.0.0.1:8123 and get a response. So ultimately, it seems like what's going on is that the HA front-end isn't reachable from outside the container, but HA itself is still working.

Could anyone help me diagnose this further? I've hit a wall and I'm pretty desperate at this point.

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docker-compose.yml

version: '3'
services:
  homeassistant:
    container_name: homeassistant
    image: "ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant"
    volumes:
      - ./config:/config
      - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
    restart: always
    privileged: true
    network_mode: host
humble mirage
#

Holy wall of text Batman!

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Did you ... check HA's log file?

frosty hawk
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I did, one sec

humble mirage
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Did you try connecting directly to HA on the IP and port?

frosty hawk
frosty hawk
humble mirage
#

I would encourage you to re-read #rules 😉

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@frosty hawk When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

humble mirage
#

The log file should hopefully help

humble scaffoldBOT
#

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frosty hawk
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...that was muscle memory

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so sorry

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lol

humble mirage
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Well, don't do it again please

frosty hawk
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won't happen again

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So strangely, the home-assistant.log file (and home-assistant.log.1 file) are empty, but docker compose logs shows this:

homeassistant  | s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner: starting
homeassistant  | s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner successfully started
homeassistant  | s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs: starting
homeassistant  | s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs successfully started
homeassistant  | s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: starting
homeassistant  | s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init successfully started
homeassistant  | s6-rc: info: service legacy-services: starting
homeassistant  | services-up: info: copying legacy longrun home-assistant (no readiness notification)
homeassistant  | s6-rc: info: service legacy-services successfully started
humble scaffoldBOT
#

If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

humble mirage
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Set logger to info and restart HA

frosty hawk
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There we go, lots more info available now, but nothing jumped out at me as being problematic. Let me attach the log file

humble mirage
frosty hawk
humble mirage
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No mention of HA being started, or the frontend starting

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Oh, no, there we go

2023-08-01 08:40:51.719 INFO (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http] Now listening on port 8123
frank perch
#

complains about "SmartTV 4K FFM" tho

humble mirage
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I'd also expect

2023-02-15 14:53:17.264 INFO (MainThread) [homeassistant.core] Starting Home Assistant
frosty hawk
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Oh, that's there

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2023-08-01 08:41:22.601 INFO (MainThread) [homeassistant.core] Starting Home Assistant

humble mirage
#

I need more ☕

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So, it looks good

frosty hawk
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You and me both, lol

humble mirage
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I'd wonder if you have a firewall runninig

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Are you on Ubuntu?

frosty hawk
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I am

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it's running headless

humble mirage
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Check ufw

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I'd wonder if something you've done has enabled a firewall

frosty hawk
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sudo ufw status shows that it's inactive

frank perch
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do you have default_config: ?

frosty hawk
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....urgh, sorry

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I'm really, really trying not to do that

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but yeah, other than adding the logger: info portion, configuration.yaml is fresh, and has default_config and all the imports

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Tinkerer, does the fact I can bash into the container and successfully ping 127.0.0.1 port 8123 jump out at you?

humble mirage
#

ping?

frosty hawk
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The logs do say the server is listening on port 8123, so I guess it shouldn't

humble mirage
#

You can't ping a port

frosty hawk
#

Yeah, not ping, what's the other command...

humble mirage
#

I mean, you ran it

frosty hawk
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curl

humble mirage
#

If you don't know what you're doing... how are we going to know 😛

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And on the host, can you curl that?

frank perch
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you can't ping a port but you can telnet to one 😉

frosty hawk
#

Nope, that fails

humble mirage
#

Waits for you to telnet to your DHCP server 😛

frank perch
#

also curl is good

humble mirage
frosty hawk
#

Sounds like you've dealt with this before

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it seems like HA isn't accessible from outside the container all of a sudden

humble mirage
#

I've seen many people bit by Ubuntu making some terrible choices

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Perfectly fine desktop OS, but as a server ... blobcsignno

frosty hawk
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It's what I've run my server on for ...2, almost 3 years now? But I guess nothing's perfect

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The strange thing is that installing a new docker image (wyze-docker-bridge) seems to be what prompted HA breaking

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I didn't see any issues over there related to what I'm experiencing though

fallen lichen
#

Have you tried excluding that container again to be certain about that? Also, for fun, have you tried rebooting the host all together just to see if there's something silly going on that might just be resolvable by that

frank perch
frosty hawk
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NSX, yes to both

fallen lichen
#

and HA is available once the bridge container is stopped?

frosty hawk
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no, it's not - even after stopping the bridge container, uninstalling it, uninstalling both and trying to start fresh...the problem persists through all of that

fallen lichen
#

So 🤷‍♂️ may or may not be related to that then

frosty hawk
#

Yeah, Tinkerer pointed out that the logs show that HA is up and listening on port 8123...going by the logs alone it looks like HA should be all good, but I just can't reach it. Even if I try to access it with the machine's IP and port on my local network

fallen lichen
#

sudo netstat -tulpn | grep 8123 on the host, anything there?

frosty hawk
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nope, nothing

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But it returns back results if I exec that in the docker container

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The HA guide recommends specifying network_mode: host, so shouldn't the port from the container be inherently accessible to the host?

fallen lichen
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Should be as long as you've got host networking

woeful wedge
#

Hi all, today I can't access my HA server via Nabu Casa. It was working yesterday and my home internet still works. I know my HA is working cause I used it this morning before I left for work. I coincidentally received a receipt for the next 1yr of Nabu casa subscription. Is it possible that on subscription renewal days, Nabu casa stops service for some period of time?

fallen lichen
frank perch
#

dammit

woeful wedge
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Thanks!

frank perch
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lol

fallen lichen
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Pigeons are delayed more today

frank perch
#

the dammit was at NSX beating me again, not you Kevin

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🤪

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my pigeons are about to unionize I think

fallen lichen
#

Assuming homeassistant is your container name

frosty hawk
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Anything in particular I should look out for there?

fallen lichen
#

It'd start with {"host": { ...

frosty hawk
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Yeah, I got a result back from that

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some fields are blank, like the IP, gateway, and Mac fields

frank perch
#

well

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sounds like we have a winner

frosty hawk
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{"host":{"IPAMConfig":null,"Links":null,"Aliases":null,"NetworkID":"3508b0395c2422f303ba1a36c354e09fa2a10204f39f2e56b603c13f5632ef7a","EndpointID":"540b3dcecea0add6d7ca0619cb224bd19b89aa31a939af627a33ea8d51a748d3","Gateway":"","IPAddress":"","IPPrefixLen":0,"IPv6Gateway":"","GlobalIPv6Address":"","GlobalIPv6PrefixLen":0,"MacAddress":"","DriverOpts":null}}

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You think it failed to generate a network for the container?

fallen lichen
#

Those are empty for me too though, running HAOS

frosty hawk
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Actually I think that's normal, it's running in network: host mode

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so the host is the network...I think

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tbh HA is the first time I'm using that, my other docker containers all run bridged with ports explicitly declared

fallen lichen
#

What did you see when you ran the netstat command in the container

frosty hawk
# 
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:8123            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      66/python3          
tcp6       0      0 :::8123                 :::*                    LISTEN      66/python3
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Yeah, I mean everything inside the container looks good...

fallen lichen
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Just curious, does the container have internet access

frosty hawk
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I'll try pinging from inside it

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Yep, it has internet access

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The only other HA-related troubleshooting step I can think of is...is there anything inherent to HA's startup process that "registers" it to the host system in any way? For example, I see in the logs there it says "listening on port 8123".

I'm just trying to think of anything else we may have missed...otherwise this seems to be more of an issue with ubuntu or docker rather than HA, because inside the container, it seems like everything is running correctly

humble mirage
#

This is entirely an issue somewhere between Ubuntu and your Docker stack

frosty hawk
#

Agreed, I don't think HA is the issue here. Thanks for all your help everyone 🙏

frosty hawk
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Hey folks, I've made some progress in researching a fix. It seems like network_mode: host is the issue here. If I instead declare a port assignment for - 8123:8123 in my docker.compose-yml file, I'm able to connect to the HA front-end again.

Anybody happen to run into this sort of issue before? If not, no worries, I'm still researching on my own. But I'm hoping someone might have run into this before.

I'm not using Docker Desktop and I'm on an Ubuntu headless server (not Windows or Mac, where network_mode: host reportedly doesn't work)

raven forge
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How did you install docker? I'm asking because I've heard of snaps causing strange issues

frosty hawk
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I believe it was through apt

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let me verify

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Yeah, it was through apt

slate jungle
#

Should I keep my Home assistent on my rpi 4 8gb with 250gb ssd? Or choose for a intel nuc?
If so what intel nuc would you recommend? It must be future proof as well

humble mirage
#

NUC > Pi

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#hardware-archived has a lot of recommendations - but mostly it comes down to your budget and what you plan on running on it

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The requirements are very different if you want to start running things like Frigate and DoubleTake

humble mirage
crisp tide
visual reef
#

I wonder if Duckdns is down

brittle sail
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Again? I doubt it

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It’s such a good service!

eager geyser
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Hi, i yesterday talked about my system reverting to a previous state.
Noticed the same issue before going to bed.. checked if my HA itself was up to date, all fine.
Restarted "the system running Home Assistant and all addons".
Ah, everything is back to normal.
This morning i checked and the dashboard, automations, newly added integrations were gone / reverted again.
Any idea on what i can do / check please?
Running HA OS on a dedicated laptop.
I just restarted "the system running Home Assistant and all addons" again.
Everything is back.
This happends rly often 😦

raven forge
#

I've read that HAOS will revert to a previous version when it fails to boot X times but that shouldn't revert dashboards.
How much free space do you have? A look into the supervisor and maybe even host logs sound like a good idea

eager geyser
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Disk is only 8% used
Memory 16%
CPU 4%
Last boot.. is last month weirdly enough

desert aspen
#

Hello all,

I have tried searching for an answer for this elsewhere but I imagine I'm just using the wrong search terms etc. I feel like I've missed a notification or announcement or similar that explains my issue, but does anyone know why the Docker Hub homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor is no longer being updated (nothing since June)? Have I missed a move to a new source etc? 🤔

Thanks in advance for any answers!

humble mirage
wicked magnet
#

Is Hass Agent only 64-bit version, since I can't find 32-bit version to install on an old pc.

humble mirage
#

They have their own Discord, maybe ask them there?

uncut saffron
#

Is there a way to install Home Assistant on my pi that already has other things running on it?

crude inlet
#

Using docker you can install and run the HA container. It won't have the supervisor/add-on ecosystem but you replace that with your own docker ecosystem

uncut saffron
#

a wahh

crude inlet
#

indubitably

uncut saffron
#

what's the "supervisor/add-on ecosystem"

crude inlet
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other software outside of Home Assistant itself. things like node-red, mqtt brokers, etc

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might include things your pi is already running, might not

uncut saffron
#

me pi is currently running pihole and jellyfin :)

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and an smb server

crude inlet
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pihole used to be an add-on but it was deprecated. adguard is still available though

frosty hawk
#

That's a mighty pi!

uncut saffron
crude inlet
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plex and jellyfin are available as add-ons, but if you have it already...

uncut saffron
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ah, i see, it's programs that i could just run outside of home assistant

crude inlet
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oh if it's an orange pi you would want to run the docker installation method anyway, regardless of whether you had other things on it or not

uncut saffron
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yeah ik, it doesn't like standard OSes

crude inlet
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yeah there is not an HA OS image for orange pi

uncut saffron
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I'm in the process of swapping the 500GB ssd for my 8TB hard drive, but that requires me to copy all the 4TB of data on it over to other drives to change the file system to ext4

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then copy it back

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and i'm struggling to find 4TB of free space

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that isn't on my big storage drive

frosty hawk
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Docker is a great system to get familiar with anyway, have you used it before?

uncut saffron
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kinda, on caprover

frosty hawk
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cool

uncut saffron
frosty hawk
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yep, most everything on my home server runs in a docker container

uncut saffron
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yah, caprover is running on oracle cloud :)

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well i'll be able to figure this part out, i just wanted to know which installation method i should use :)

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and if it had to be docker or not

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So i follow the "Install Home Assistant Container" method?

crude inlet
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yep

uncut saffron
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cooool

crude inlet
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docker is like a jukebox which plays all your software "CDs". Home Assistant would be one of those. You can add and configure others and self host tons of stuff.

uncut saffron
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yea, i use it on caprover and it's so cooooool

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and ofc i'm currently going on a sidequest of getting ssh keys setup on my server cuz i should probably (have done that a while ago) do that

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oh dammit i lost the public key i had lmaoo

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nvm found it

versed vapor
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the .8 update added a warning about my mqtt device namings

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what is the reason behind it

raven forge
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You might want to share that warning 😉

tender wren
versed vapor
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Recognized entities with a name starting with the device name
i am a bit confused because it lists entities like sensor.hm_600_yieldday which are looking similar to the default ones on my non mqtt devices

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oh i suppose the device name is supposed to be hm_600 and the entity of the sensor would be yieldday?

tender wren
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Is it a Zigbee2MQTT device?

versed vapor
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no its opendtu

empty bloom
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notify opendtu of the breaking change for MQTT HA

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unless you create the yaml entries yourself

versed vapor
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ah i checked their issue page, someone got to it faster

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well guess i observe and update when there is a fix for it
hope i dont loose historic data that would be sad

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thanks for the details!

tepid steeple
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Hello guys. Need help in getting Insteon 2413U PLM going. I used to have a isy994i but it got fried from lightening. So I decided to go with a new 2413. I got the integration into homeasssistant but it is not seeing any of my devices. How do I get the Insteon integration to see the existing Insteon devices ( I have like 30), do I need to manually go around linking it to the plm ?

shut citrus
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Hi y'all, trying to install using vbox but I'm just getting a black screen for the VM - i followed all the instructions correctly & double checked them. On Ubuntu

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Anyone have an idea as how to fix?

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I might use a different vm software

frank perch
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you're trying to load up HAOS as a vm on virtual box with ubuntu correct?

shut citrus
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Yes

frank perch
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did you enable efi?

shut citrus
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Yep

frank perch
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what are your boot options ?

shut citrus
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It's booting from the hard disk (the vdi file)

frank perch
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in the virtual machine config, do you maybe have another device set to boot before the hard disk?

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and double checking you did set it to Linux 2.6 / 3.x / 4.x (64-bit) ?

shut citrus
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I unchecked the other devices and moved hard disk to the top of the boot order

frank perch
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also did you make sure that your BIOS supports virtualization? and if you did, is it turned on?

shut citrus
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Yup and yup

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What is chipset?

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Piix3 vs ich9?

frank perch
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I use PIIX3 at home

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did you enable secure boot by chance?

shut citrus
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Oh idk

warm lagoon
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Hello everyone, so I need some guidance on getting the HA companion app (ios) working. When I try to connect to my server I get this.
"NSURLErrorDomain -1099"

frank perch
tender zealot
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Anyone else encountering an internal server error (500) when their install tries to pull the generic x86_64 docker image?

frank perch
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that's indicative of DNS issues

tender zealot
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23-08-02 19:54:31 ERROR (SyncWorker_3) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/generic-x86-64-homeassistant:2023.8.0: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.42/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/generic-x86-64-homeassistant:2023.8.0/json: Internal Server Error ("readlink /mnt/data/docker/overlay2/l: invalid argument")
23-08-02 19:54:31 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec
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Should my dns be 192.168.1.1?

copper steppe
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if you have a LAN dhcp server/proxy at that address.

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check with nslookup

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that probably comes from your dhcp server

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otherwise just point it at google/cloudflare, at least for the install

tender zealot
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Still having the issue after adding 8.8.8.8 :(

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I just realized the update didn’t stick, why is that?

copper steppe
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Didn't stick?

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if it failed to download, it won't apply

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Are you out of disk space?

tender zealot
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Shouldn’t be, I have a terabyte

copper steppe
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You may need to run "ha su repair" in the HA CLI console

tender zealot
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Could it be that I’m running out of space because of weird partitioning?

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I burned the image directly to my hard drive

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Oh hey, that fixed it!

gusty cedar
tender zealot
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Weird, I didn’t use balena etcher, I extracted the xz with 7zip and then burned the img to my hard drive using Rufus

gusty cedar
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"Something went wrong. If it is a compressed image, please check that the archive is not corrupted"

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Realized that I had a 10.3 image downloaded, that appears to be working. Something is broken with the generic 10.4 image.

gusty cedar
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Another question... Trying to boot a laptop off of an external HDD flashed with the HAOS generic image. It looks like it tries at startup and then gives up and boots windows. What is going on??

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Also, balenaEtcher still doesn't work with that link above.

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I tried downloading the file at that location and was able to flash with that. But that doesn't work.
Is it normal that the image creates like 6 different drives?

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Is it not possible to use some USB to SATA adapters to boot HAOS?

brittle sail
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yes it is possible

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assuming you have the boot order setup in bios correctly

gusty cedar
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Yes, boot order is correct. It tries the external drive, but gives up after a few seconds.

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Dang I mistook the wrong option to disable secure boot... Such a fool am I.

brittle sail
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it be like that

silk latch
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Hi, I am trying to add Bluetooth integration.

It automatically discovered the integration once. Then disappeared. Since then have tried multiple times but it just doesn’t show up. Tried in built Bluetooth and Bluetooth dongle with pass through.

My setup is
Windows 11 NUC
Virtualbox
HA OS
Bluetooth dongle with 2m cable extension
USB pass through in virtual box

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Can someone please help me

humble mirage
tranquil holly
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I can't seem to install updates. I had this recently and got past it by deleting dangling images and stopped containers but that's not happening this time :/
Here's a Supervisor log which starts with a giant error that I wonder if it might hold a clue:
http://pastie.org/p/4qxtRuRdd336TarusE4jBr

bitter oak
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what return curl -v https://github.com/esphome/home-assistant-addon/
?

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do you use HAOS?

tranquil holly
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Yes, HAOS. Just ran that curl and it's showing me the full markup for that web page

manic bane
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Did you run the curl on the HA server, or on your own device

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Since the logs seem to indicate your HA cannot connect to github securely

tranquil holly
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I ran it from the terminal add on.

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This is the thing, it's like every few requests from github fail

bitter oak
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maybe curl ise other SSL settings that python?

tranquil holly
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Even pulling the image manually seems to keep needing to "retry" and eventually it just fails with "unexpected eof"
https://imgur.com/a/9We0Ogw

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I tried running update-ca-certificates on host, homeassistant and on supervisor to see if that would help but no luck 😦

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Oh wow, that latest pull actually worked... not sure if that helps me though.

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I triggered the update now and it seems to be installing from that successful pull, hopefully that's the trouble over then. But I don't understand why this keeps happening to me recently 😦

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Attempting the OS update now, hopefully it goes smoother.

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Looks like the OS update has worked, it's restarting at least.

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Pretty sure that docker pull line succeeded only because I'd asked for help on here 😆

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Sure taking it's sweet time to come back online though :/

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Typical, came back to life as I posted that.

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Whelp, all working now. Hopefully it stays that way :/

verbal crater
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Hey guys, I'm trying to update to 10.4 from 10.0 or 10.1 but each time I try to update it takes a while, the rapsberry pi reboots and the server is in version 10.0 or 10.1 (sometimes one sometimes the other). I can't figure out how to get the logs of the update to see what's wrong, do you know how I could find what's happening?

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to update HAOS*

shut citrus
brittle sail
dark parcel
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whats the best way to get home assistant running away from my home network

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without a vpn

copper sparrow
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Cloud flare

midnight delta
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Home Assistant Cloud 😄

dark parcel
brittle sail
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Nginx reverse proxy using something like nginxproxymanager or traefik, or cloudflare tunnel where they mitm your traffic

copper sparrow
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Dynamic dns?

dark parcel
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tf is dynamic dns

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I just used cloudflare tunnel

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but when I went to the link it didnt work

humble mirage
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Did you check HA's log file for warnings or errors?

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Because you have to configure http correctly

frank perch
verbal crater
bitter trail
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RPI4 8GB USB Boot failing 3 green flashes

patent tree
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I have a crazy question. I’m pretty new but is there a way I could run HAOS on a synology NAS or is it strictly the Docker version?

raven forge
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Some of them can run VMs

patent tree
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The one I have can. Right now I’m running HA on Docker which I’m missing the add-ons ability. I was thinking if I could run it on the VM, would I get the add-ons back?

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I had HA running on a Raspberry PI but I rather run what I can on my NAS instead of having a bunch of things plugged in. The add-ons made everything so easy. I just don’t have the patience with the Docker version.

raven forge
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Worth a try. What can you lose?

patent tree
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This is true lol. I didn’t know if there was any reason I couldn’t or shouldn’t.

wooden elm
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After running the docker image I am getting the following error:-
docker: Error response from daemon: failed to create shim task: OCI runtime create failed: runc create failed: unable to start container process: exec: "/init": permission denied: unknown.

While I am easily able to build the image. But while trying to run it, I am getting this error.

What could be the solution for it?

humble mirage
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Build the image? Do you mean pull?

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Are you running the commands as root?

wooden elm
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Yes I am running the commands as root

heavy galleon
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Anyone know if I can run my raspberry pi on a kingston portable ssd ?

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connects through usb c

shadow zealot
tender wren
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Maybe a dying microSD? shksShrug

frank perch
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maybe PSU is not putting out what it says it will

stuck hawk
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I am moving my HAOS VM install to a baremetal HAOS install. Anything that I need to be aware of besides just back up old and restore on new?

brittle sail
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nope

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if it's a really big backup file you might be better off setting up new and copying over the file via samba etc then restoring from backup

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i havent had to do that personally though

stuck hawk
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I have a fixed IP for my VM, probably best to release that and use the same IP on the new box right?

brittle sail
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Probably

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That’s what I did

stuck hawk
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and update to most current?

hollow knot
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Hi

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Good evening.

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Some Dutch users on here that use the integration "Afvalwijzer"

stuck hawk
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How long should it take to restore? My backup file was only 200MB

brittle sail
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what hardware

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and internet sp33d

tender wren
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Just let it do its magic

brittle sail
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orly

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some known bug?

tender wren