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quasi wedge
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i don't know why it can't reach the network though

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i don't have a way to prove i've had internet running this whole time, but i feel like i have

fallen lichen
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Host is connected via Ethernet or WiFi?

quasi wedge
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wifi

fallen lichen
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Please keep in mind that the bridged adapter only functions over a hardwired Ethernet connection. Using Wi-Fi on your VirtualBox host is unsupported.

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WiFi is flaky in general

quasi wedge
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yeah, i just don't have an easy way to get an ethernet cable here

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eventually i plan on getting a nas or something to run HA, but for now it's just off my laptop

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so basically if i keep using wifi it's possible that it'll just stop working every so often?

fallen lichen
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Seems to be doing just that. Someone may know more about WiFi and VBox here (I don't) to possibly offer additional adjustments, but in general it's not supported

quasi wedge
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that's a shame, but thanks for the help!

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maybe the solution is to just use everything locally for now until i get a nas, or speed up the nas process and get HA running on that sooner rather than later 😛

fallen lichen
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Yep, you bet, hopefully the second option 🙂 Could always start w/ something like a used mini PC and graduate to or add a NAS depending on your needs. Used mini PCs can be had for ~$100 USD or so

quasi wedge
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the problem is i already have a plex server on a secondary pc, but that lives near my laptop and also doesn't have wifi and has been fine 😛

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so i don't think i'd be able to justify a third pc for this sort of stuff

fallen lichen
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This would run fine on a Plex machine, I'm sure

quasi wedge
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at least nas can double up as backup/extra storage space etc

fallen lichen
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You're saying Plex serves via WiFi?

quasi wedge
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yeah

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quite well

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well, as well as my wifi is

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unfortunately i'm from australia and the average upload speed i get is like 15mbps

crude inlet
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That isn’t using bridged Wi-Fi though

quasi wedge
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that's the standard upload speed for pretty much all plans down here unfortunately

fallen lichen
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Oh i hear that, I only get 5 Mbps here, it's sad

quasi wedge
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you can get ones that go to "40mbps upload" advertised, but you have to pay almost twice as much as a regular plan

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yeah, it's not fun at all

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meanwhile across the lake in nz you can get 2000/2000 for like... 70USD per month i think

fallen lichen
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Well, if you can relocate the secondary PC, I'd think that'd be for the best, unless you're multi-purposing that as well and need that in a office or something

quasi wedge
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you can even get up to 8000/8000 if you're in the right area and don't mind paying a little more

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yeah, that's fair - unfortunately there's not really a good space to put the plex pc - whoever made the house and the router point definitely had it in mind to only be used as a wifi connection place rather than ethernets, because it's part way in the kitchen

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we also can't do our own electrical work here, so i might be out of options until we can get someone to fix it

fallen lichen
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No hookup where the PCs are to connect the modem?

quasi wedge
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nup

fallen lichen
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Well, you've got a lot of options 🙂 Just gotta figure which one fits best into your plans

quasi wedge
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yeah, ikr 😛

i think if i could get it working, the plex computer would be best, as it's always on, but next best would be a nas next to the router, but that's a lot more time and money than just switching pcs 😛

definitely something to think about though!

fallen lichen
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For sure, if you're already hosting plex, putting it there makes sense

night pollen
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Hey all running hassos on a nuc and it's been randomly rebooting all of a sudden with the following log on hosts
Mar 27 12:42:10 homeassistant kernel: oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=docker-18effed9fbdc9115325d4d43572ba357d88e0fef6cb72242bb8095b40d6df3b6.scope,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/system.slice/docker-86d6a8fc27d91e041b3ec219dbe25616b5baee4fbb1a2038f6c2262d5d36d23f.scope,task=python3,pid=4433,uid=0
Mar 27 12:42:10 homeassistant kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 4433 (python3) total-vm:40519908kB, anon-rss:30665416kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB, UID:0 pgtables:76164kB oom_score_adj:-300
Mar 27 12:42:10 homeassistant systemd[1]: docker-86d6a8fc27d91e041b3ec219dbe25616b5baee4fbb1a2038f6c2262d5d36d23f.scope: A process of this unit has been killed by the OOM killer.

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32gb ram nuc 10 i7

humble mirage
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What add-ons?

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What custom components?

grand pivot
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That's quite a hungry Python

night pollen
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Is there a place can get a list of all of that? System info?

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Host Operating System Home Assistant OS 9.5
Update Channel stable
Supervisor Version supervisor-2023.03.2
Agent Version 1.4.1
Docker Version 20.10.22
Disk Total 228.5 GB
Disk Used 22.1 GB
Healthy true
Supported true
Board generic-x86-64
Supervisor API ok
Version API ok
Installed Add-ons Samba share (10.0.0), Terminal & SSH (9.6.1), File editor (5.5.0), Dnsmasq (1.5.1), Studio Code Server (5.5.5), Mosquitto broker (6.1.3), Node-RED (14.1.1), AppDaemon (0.11.0), SQLite Web (3.7.1), UniFi Network Application (2.6.0), Grafana (8.2.1), InfluxDB (4.6.0), Glances (0.18.1), chrony (2.5.0), NetDaemon V3 - beta (22.44.0), OneDrive Backup (2.01)

brittle sail
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I’d bet money it’s UniFi network

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You can enable the system monitoring per addon for cpu and memory

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And see if it keeps growing

night pollen
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That's the thing mem use is consistent below 5%

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Overall

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Could it be the ssd?

worn warren
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Is there anyone that might be able to help start a deeper troubleshooting path? I looked even further at my logs and all of the add-ons are running that I've installed. Their individual log files look just as I'd expect them too. No failures. The Add-On page and any official Add-On just don't want to load their interfaces. And as I stated in later posts, this is even extending into other /hassio based features like the Backups page.

raven forge
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I'd set up some kind of monitoring. If it happens randomly there's little point checking the current state.
But to do that you can use glances or run something like free -h, docker stats, top -c with the SSH addon.
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/systemmonitor/ might be the simplest but is limited. The log says python3 which does't narrow it down much.
Ideally you'd have something like netdata or similar to check current and historic system usage per process

night pollen
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yep have cpu mem and disk all in already none of those are showing any spikes at all

raven forge
worn warren
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no. every page that tries to load in /hassio location gives that same, one error.

raven forge
worn warren
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as far as the backend is concerned i see no glaring problems. the backup system is actualyl still working, i just can't view the page. cloudflared is still routing the cloudflare tunnel and i can access my instance just fine over the net, it just won't load the page because of a javascript error.

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I feel like someone with HA code-base knowledge might better understand what is going on, especially if I give them the raw JS that the browser is showing to me

low notch
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leave out cloudflare, try your local ip

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sometimes cf does weird things to mimetypes with caching

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depending on your cf settings

fossil pine
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Can someone help me with a running (or not so running) proxmox VM installation? Mine doesn't boot since disk space ran full -> Increased disk space and then rebooting...

radiant sundial
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*a while being like 15 min to an hour or so

worn warren
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Here's something interesting and new I've come across:

Source map error: Error: NetworkError when attempting to fetch resource.
Resource URL: moz-extension://9dd388e4-9ffe-4b85-9ba6-102c7fd7cf96/lib/browser-polyfill.min.js

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oooook. that's weird. after letting it sit for a minute or so, the addon page loaded

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and that's with using the tunnel. for some reason, i can't use my local ip address

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but that was random, not the rule it seems. this is really weird

radiant sundial
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yeah it was weird, but it also went away on its own lol

serene elm
night pollen
pallid lake
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balooning ram?

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ballooning

viscid stone
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I got error failed to start network manager wait online anybody help

autumn temple
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HA boots up with a message saying "waiting for the home assistant cli to be ready" -- tried login same, checked network, checked DNS, checked date - still the same. Any tips?

autumn temple
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HA boots up with a message saying

pastel sphinx
manic bane
radiant sundial
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I think the next best one would have been throw it on a VM

hexed mirage
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Do consider docker install over supervised. As supervised is not really supported and when you get into issues, you better know the in and out of distro

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It also frees up the machine for other containers

radiant sundial
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you don't get addons with docker I think?

hexed mirage
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No you don't but all add-ons have container images, unless very specifically created only for HA

raven forge
radiant sundial
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I guess between supervised, docker, and VM... if I had the option I'd probably have gone with VM > supervised > docker. but everyone has their preferences hah

hexed mirage
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Actually the decision should be quite simple. Choose HAOS if want to mostly do eveyrything from UI and specially for non-techies who would want to use a blackbox. For Techies who see that dedicating a machine only for HA is kind of overkill and has lot of potential, use docker /container. For those want to experiment and feeling GODs of linux distros, use Supervised 😃

radiant sundial
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I read that as for increased suffering just do each step manually

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😄

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I looked at how to set up the google assistant manually and backed away. not because I couldn't technically perform it... there's just so much content that my eyes glazed over

hexed mirage
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Well it's either you pay money or do the hard way...unless Rhasspy becomes a reality. This year is "voice of the year" for HA, so things should become easier i presume

low notch
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who has the voice of the year?

robust quarry
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Add Timestamp to an ESP32-CAM snapshot

Does anyone know if adding a timestamp to pictures being taken with an ESP32-CAM would be possible? I guess so but I don't know how 😂To add some context to my question, I am being asked to take a picture of the electric meter every 1st of each month and I want to automate this. I already created the automation for this, but adding a timestamp would make it even better.

In the automation I already store the picture locally:

action:

  • data:
    filename: /tmp/snapshot.jpeg
    service: camera.snapshot

I guess there must be a way to uncompress, draw, then compress again.

humble mirage
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There's nothing native to HA I know of, but #cameras-archived is likely to know better. You're likely to be better off solving that in the ESP (in which case #diy-archived or ESPHome/Tasmota Discord depending on what you're running on it). If you can't and you can run arbitrary software then ImageMagick could certainly do that.

cloud jolt
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Tried to uninstall one addon, and now the supervisor won't start. Remains disabled.
So I can't delete other addons or use commands inside the UI. And it's restarting every 10 mins or so.
Logs: https://paste.debian.net/1275515/
HACS loads. Most stuff seem to load properly, but supervisor's dead. I get to errors on notifications: both "Hassio" and "Raspberry_pi".

placid sage
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I repost this here because I have been told in #general-archived that I may be helped here.

I have been unable to update my Home Assitant for a long time because I get this error:
[1554218432] Error updating Home Assistant Core 'HomeAssistantCore.update' blocked from execution, system is not healthy - supervisor, docker
13:17:50 – (ERROR) Home Assistant WebSocket API

It worked fine for a long time. Recently it started giving me that error when trying to aqualify.

humble mirage
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You have a Supervised install... at least tell me that you used Debian itself?

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The UI will give you a link that tells you the problem, which usually comes down to didn't follow the requirements

placid sage
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What I believe happened was this:
There were two updates. Home Assistant Core and Home Assistant Supervisor.
I hit update on Home Assistant Supervisor first and since then, it no longer allows me to equalize Home Assistant Core.

humble mirage
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If you installed this on something other than actual Debian that'll happen

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If you otherwise didn't follow the requirements, that'll happen

placid sage
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How can I fix it without losing everything I have?

If I do a fresh install of Home Asisstant from 0 and restore a backup of the current Home Asisstant, will it work?

humble mirage
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If you do a fresh install of Home Assistant OS then yes

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If you use Supervised again... unlikely

placid sage
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Okay, thank you very much.

grave island
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Balena etcher keeps failing on flashing SD card

grave island
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Share HA Raspberry Pi with other Webservers etc

pastel sphinx
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If I'm running HAOS on a RPi 4, can I do a native/Google Drive HAOS restore on a Proxmox Intel VM and be good to go? Will the restore download the different CPU architecture containers?

brittle sail
pastel sphinx
brittle sail
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Yep

brittle sail
# pastel sphinx awsome@

Once you restore from backup you need to restart the VM not just home assistant to get everything working correctly

stuck wasp
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Hopefully a quick one, Can someone let me know what this error means? "23-03-28 17:03:22 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'ResolutionFixup.run_autofix' blocked from execution, system is not healthy - supervisor"

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I'm getting this repeating on a new install. Can't get passed "Preparing Home Assistant"

brittle sail
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how did you flash your ssd/sd? is this on a pi?

stuck wasp
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Pi3, used Etcher.

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I did have to download the file. kept erroring when attempting to flash from URL

brittle sail
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Use the raspberry pi imager tool

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Guy had an issue with etcher earlier

stuck wasp
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I was just following the docs, I'll get that downloaded and see.

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Alright, flashed and booting. 🤞🏼

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Same issue.

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Alright I give up for now.

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Been at this a couple hours now.

brittle sail
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it really should just work TM

stuck wasp
brittle sail
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some people have issues with ghcr.io - maybe isp dns related issues i guess

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i think those of us that use cloudflare/google public dns dont have those issues

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what country are you in?

amber iron
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is it possible to submit something that "check configuration" sees as valid but stops the config from loading

uneven merlin
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that would definitely be worth a bug on github

amber iron
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me randomly forgetting that github exists for a moment

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bug reported, ty

stuck wasp
# brittle sail what country are you in?

I'm in the US, California. ghcr.io was the domain that worked just fine actually, I did see issues with Github failing to resolve. I was at a friends house trying to get HA setup for her. I bought her Pi home with me. So I'll try and get it through the first portion from my house, if it works here we know it was her network.

sleek lion
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guys, my first time on discord - and rather a newbie to HA. I have installed HASSIO on raspi, but the GUI remains in 'preparing Home assistant' forever. Now looking at the log files by pressing on the blue pulsing button, I see errors ' no supervisor internet conection'. Looking further, seems this problem is due to DNS settings. Can anybody recommend how to set DNS on HASSIO usng the CLI ( sicne my GUI is not working ). thanks a bunch, and in advanc e

hexed mirage
stuck wasp
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I'm at the office today, I'll test it when I get home on my network, this is for a friend so once I'll get it set up I'll run it to her place and install it there.

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What needs to be done to point the installation at my own repo if I did go that route?

balmy topaz
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Hello guys,
I have HA installed on a Synology via docker. Evrything working fine.

I now want to install my SONOFF USB Dongle. I saw that we need to install first a MQTT Broker like Mosquito MQTT.

I tried to install it by adding the synocommunity package center to my synology package center and it does not work. I have a "Connexion failed" error. ANy idea why ?

slow oak
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Suddenly my HA doesn't boot. Plugging a screen in, and seeing the messages it seems to not find any storage. I've taken the SD card out, and opening it on the computer it only shows hassos-boot and an unopenable second drive. As far as I can Google, there should be three drives, right? Does that mean that most likely my SD Card is dead?

humble mirage
balmy topaz
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Ok thanks 😄 I will go there

tiny phoenix
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My HA instance totally exploded this morning and I can't seem to fix it. It is a HassOS running inside of a proxmox VM. Playing with some stuff on the proxmox server itself this morning and rebooted the VM. When it went to come back up the hassio integration won't load any more and its not loading addons/supervisor etc. Tried to restore the entire VM, but doesn't seem to change anything.... Anyone suggest where to start? Looking at the logs for the hassio addon it says system is not ready with state: setup.

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Yeah... its a mess.... I do have a full backup on google drive... but not sure if there is a way to unbreak this one

brittle sail
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Personally I’d blow it away and restore from backup but maybe it’s a simple fix

tiny phoenix
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Damn... no clue what went wrong

crude inlet
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hassio add-on?

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Anyway, yeah I'd try a restore first

tiny phoenix
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what's interesting is I can see the backups on the virtual machine... but in the web interface I can't

crude inlet
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reloaded the backups page?

tiny phoenix
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did that....

crude inlet
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are you connected using the ip address?

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in the browser

tiny phoenix
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yep

crude inlet
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how are you observing the backups on the virtual machine? this is through a console and looking in the /backups directory?

tiny phoenix
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ssh into homeassistant machine

crude inlet
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just wondering if you are looking at two different HA instances

tiny phoenix
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Yeah... was wondering the same thing... but I ruled that out

wooden smelt
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Have you created a backup of the Home Assistant OS VM using the Proxmox backup feature?

humble mirage
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Don't...

brittle sail
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That profile is something else

errant violet
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ok sorry

humble mirage
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If you really want to run HA on Android (buy why) then Container or Core are the only options

tiny phoenix
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@wooden smelt yep.... does exactly the same thing

errant violet
wooden smelt
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Playing with some stuff on the proxmox server itself this morning
Maybe something you did on the server side?

empty bloom
tiny phoenix
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They are

empty bloom
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connect to SSH and try to repair the supervisor

tiny phoenix
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tried.... still no go

empty bloom
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sounds like the nuclear option is the way to go

tiny phoenix
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Yeah... just annoying

errant violet
humble mirage
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Is that actual Debian Bullseye?

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Ah, hang on... you've moved on from Supervised

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  1. You forgot to change /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG
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  1. You should be using Compose files
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  1. Try sudo or adding your user to the docker group
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  1. Please share text as text and not screenshots
quasi citrus
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Hi, new here. I'm trying to install homeassistant in a conda env (https://github.com/conda-forge/homeassistant-feedstock), but the 'hass' command fail, because it try to install pip package in the root system.

This is due to is_virtual_env() in util/package.py:

def is_virtual_env() -> bool:
    """Return if we run in a virtual environment."""
    # Check supports venv && virtualenv
    return getattr(sys, "base_prefix", sys.prefix) != sys.prefix or hasattr(
        sys, "real_prefix"
    )

This code return False if a conda env is activated, so I've tried to modify it to be able to check for conda:

def is_virtual_env() -> bool:
    """Return if we run in a virtual environment."""
    # Check supports venv && virtualenv or conda
    return getattr(sys, "base_prefix", sys.prefix) != sys.prefix \
        or hasattr(sys, "real_prefix") \
        or Path(os.path.join(sys.prefix, 'conda-meta')).exists()

This patch seems to work

humble mirage
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Bloody hell, that's old

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Is there a reason you want to use a third party version of HA, that's outdated and clearly abandoned?

quasi citrus
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I'm able to have the web server

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I've just used conda install homeassistant

humble mirage
quasi citrus
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should i avoid using conda ?

humble mirage
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Yes

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They're 8+ months out of date

quasi citrus
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Ok, i will keep my actual virtualbox, or try docker

manic bane
limpid smelt
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heh, looks like writing the pi4 image directly to an SSD then putting it in a waveshare baseboard-b doesn't work very well. It boots, but is sitting there trying to connect to docker and some other errors flew by.

raven forge
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Probably a good idea to share what it shows

limpid smelt
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"cannot connect to docker daemon. /var/run/docker.sock" then a message about jumping to emergency mode.

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haven't really played with it as that would require connecting a keyboard.

leaden gyro
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How does one change the unit_of_measurement”? I would like to use metric. I found that when I have a flow and send it to HA it is in M3, but HA converts it to FT3

fallen lichen
olive vessel
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HI everyone, i convert my vhdx into a vcenter with vmware converter. I try to boot the vm, but cant find the boot drive. Any one already see this ?

leaden gyro
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@fallen lichen Thanks. I had to scroll down to see the "UPDATE" link to make the setting stick 😉

waxen rose
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hello guys !!! I need a favor, someone who could explain how to recover the backup from a looped HA instalation. The drive got full and it won't restart. Don't have google backup, so I need to go into the drive to recover it. anyone? Thanks !!!

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OR.... anyone has been able to recover from RESCUE MODE?

umbral helm
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Unsupported system - Unsupported software

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Why do I get this msg?

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I have only HA installed in mine RPi4

raven forge
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Can you share more information about your setup?

knotty mesa
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I'm trying to migrate my HA installation from one machine (FreeBSD) to another (Kubernetes/Linux). I copy the contents of /config to the new machine, set the permissions to root, but HA always starts up showing me the onboarding flow. The logs don't tell me why and they do show that some of the configuration is being taken (Unifi, printer integrations). Do you have any suggestions on how I can debug this?

brittle sail
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you copied all the hidden directories inside /config too right

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.storage/ etc

knotty mesa
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yeah, and I verified that there's my person entry in them

copper steppe
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permissions?

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are you running in a docker container, a VM, or natively python etc?

knotty mesa
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I chgrp'd everything to root:root. I'm running this in a container via kubernetes using ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:2023.2.5 for the image

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chgrp -R root:root /path/to/config/mount is what I ran

copper steppe
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and the config is mounted into the container from the host? use docker-exec into the container once you start it, and check the mount/perms, to be sure

knotty mesa
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yeah, it looks like it is mounted with root:root and I can run touch foo in /config no problem. I see homeassistant running as root as well (python3 -m homeassistant --config /config), along with about seven s6 processes.

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The timestamps on some of the copied configs have been updated, so I assume it has been able to update them. It's also writing out logs to /config/home-assistant.log

limber pivot
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I just set up homeassistant on a pi. I have my password, but spaced and forgot my username. I've got the CLI open, is there a way to make the CLI list users?

glad iron
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Hi, I’m a newbie to Ha. I have a old Windows Surface Pro4, I want to make use of it instead buying raspberry pi. What is recommended installation? I see Hyper-v has limitations on USB Pass through devices. Thanks for the suggestion in advance

umbral helm
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Not sure what else to share, pls let me know

raven forge
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How did you install HA? Do you use any third party addons/software? What do the supervisor logs say?

weak sedge
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Hi! Is there a way to have two nics on the home assistant os server, but only use one for home assistant and one for e.g. emulated_hue?
Something like bind_address or wouldn't I be able to set the emulated_hue to that ip then (since it's an integration...)

low notch
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what is your goal?

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sounds like you have 443 or 80 in use and want to use emulated hue

weak sedge
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yeah, I have hass on port 80

low notch
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then move hass away from port 80

weak sedge
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😛 but I want it on 80

low notch
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then you need a proxy

weak sedge
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but is that possible on the same machine with home assistant OS?

low notch
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yes, no idea about the NIC situation

weak sedge
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i used to do it like that on my home assistant core installation...

low notch
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I don't use haos so 🤷‍♂️

weak sedge
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how would I do reverse proxying on a home assistant os installation?

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oh

humble mirage
weak sedge
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but isn't NPM more for external access (SSL) and reverse proxying by dns name (like by using subdomains)?

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I don't think there is an addon which can do reverse proxying like nginx or apache, right?

humble mirage
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NPM ... aka NGINX Proxy Manager

weak sedge
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yeah i know that but i meant nginx webserver (reverse proxy)

humble mirage
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It's the same thing

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NGINX is NGINX is NGINX

weak sedge
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maybe I just haven't understood how to configure npm to just locally proxy from port 80 to 8123

stone nova
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hi

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if i use etcher to install home assistanyt on my pi, will the computer still be usable for other purposes?

raven forge
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Such as? HAOS is a purpose built OS/appliance to run HA

merry summit
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Hey folks! I need some help with troubleshooting... The HA interface is not starting. I am running HA on a remote setup, but I have access to a computer in the same network via remote desktop. The Home Assistant observer is starting and is showing the following info:

Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy

How to troubleshoot further?

humble mirage
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Do you have a working SSH add-on?

merry summit
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I can't remember if I set that up. I've tried accessing using Putty from the RD machine, but only get "Connection Refused".

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I assume port 22?

humble mirage
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If you set it up to use port 22, yes

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Many people never set it up properly

merry summit
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Define properly?

From the OS CLI, can I do any troubleshooting?

humble mirage
#

Well, many just install it and use it in the sidebar

rigid mason
#

Hello everyone, I have a problem with the remote access of my HA. I've followed a lot of DNS duck tutorials but nothing works. The connection pending in initialized mode. Thx for ur help !

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I use home assistant 0S 9.5

humble mirage
rigid mason
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Ok, i will try to resume all manip

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rigid mason
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I tried to lower the security of my box and I switched my box to DMZ

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IP of home assistant is on static

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and i have install home assistant on virtual machine on Ubuntu

humble mirage
#

Did you forward port 8123 on the router/modem to HA?

rigid mason
#

Yes like that :
Application/Service Port interne Port externe Protocole Équipement IP externe
Secure Web Server (HTTPS) 8123 8123 TCP homeassistant Toutes

manic bane
#

Also, if you shared your duckdns token you should probably refresh that

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Also are you sure you're not behind CGNAT

rigid mason
#

yes, thanks when it works

humble mirage
#

Did you check that the WAN IP in the router's admin page matches what homeadrian.duckdns.org resolves to (109.223.213.162)?

rigid mason
humble mirage
#

Port 8123 is open on 109.223.213.162.

manic bane
#

Check what tinkerer said

manic bane
humble mirage
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And something is listening

manic bane
#

It should be the IP of the server HA is on

rigid mason
#

I see only internal IP and its not 109.223.213.162

manic bane
#

What do you mean

rigid mason
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i see : 192.168.1.37

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and its ip on my home assistant server

humble mirage
#

And you can access HA on https://192.168.1.37:8123/?

rigid mason
#

the page remains in Initializing

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(on local test)

rigid mason
manic bane
humble mirage
rigid mason
humble mirage
#

Well... the problem is that HA isn't working

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Try

# 
http://192.168.1.37:8123/
rigid mason
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down

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This page is not working192.168.1.37 did not send any data.
ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE

humble mirage
#

Same with

https://192.168.1.37:8123/
``` ?
rigid mason
#

No !

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i will try to share screen

humble mirage
#

Ok, so https://192.168.1.37:8123/ works?

rigid mason
humble mirage
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Ok, so https://192.168.1.37:8123/ works?

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Yes? No?

rigid mason
#

sometimes they stop working even though I haven't changed anything, now I have a blank page

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i have just restart HA

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Now, its ok : After auth, its blank page

humble mirage
#

Then ... you have bigger problems

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I'd stop trying to get working remote access and just get HA stable - remove the port forwarding for now

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When you have HA stable use the NGINX/NPM add-on to handle SSL and forward the remote traffic to HA

rigid mason
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Forwarding is disable now

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domain: homeadrian.duckdns.org
hsts: max-age=31536000; includeSubDomains
certfile: fullchain.pem
keyfile: privkey.pem
cloudflare: false
customize:
active: false
default: nginx_proxy_default*.conf
servers: nginx_proxy/*.conf

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its ok for u ?

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humble mirage
#

Remove the ssl lines from http:// - when you get a stable HA you'll have the proxy handle SSL

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Then restart HA and see what works

#

At this point I'm starting to wonder about your web browser

merry summit
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Is there a way to see "top" usage or something similar on the host os cli?

radiant sundial
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if you're on the host os cli, can't you just use top?

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also.. you could glances. the glances add-on looks nice at least

merry summit
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HA is not straing properly... Need access to something/anything to troubleshoot further...

radiant sundial
#

for glances at least it has you disable "protection mode"

merry summit
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I cannot access anything other than the OS cli...

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and top is not included....

radiant sundial
#

how is your install set up?

merry summit
#

HA OS on laptop

radiant sundial
#

a bit confused why you can only access the cli

merry summit
#

Because HA Core is not starting as it should... Or any of the addons....

fallen lichen
#

Are you seeing a ha > prompt @merry summit?

merry summit
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Yes

fallen lichen
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type login

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then top

merry summit
#

Ohhhhh

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❤️

rigid mason
umbral helm
placid sage
#

Hey there, I'm new to Home Assistant and looking for some help with the installation. I flashed the newest RPi3 version to a 32gb microdisk, attached it to my router via ethernet, and turned on the RPi3, but I can't seem to find the device on my network. I can use the same cable and port to connect my laptop, so I know it's an issue on the RPi3's end, but I'm not sure where to go from there.

radiant sundial
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Connect a monitor and keyboard?

placid sage
umbral helm
placid sage
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Monitor gets no signal.

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I'm going to try flashing again, I guess.

placid sage
#

Flashed again and am getting same result. ping homeassistant.local
returns ping: cannot resolve homeassistant.local: Unknown host and a connected monitor shows nothing.

raven forge
umbral helm
umbral helm
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Did I miss something?

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Sorry

raven forge
#

Sorry, I checked/answered the newest mention first. Do you use any third party addons? As in, other than the addons that come by default with HAOS?

radiant sundial
#

have you tried just using raspbian flash to see if it's the pi itself first?

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or maybe some bootloader shenanigans. more just to diagnose. or try another SD card

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or usb boot if it supports that

placid sage
#

It's pretty embarrassing, turned out I do in fact have an RPi4. I flashed the matching image and it fixed the problem.

brittle sail
radiant sundial
#

lol well at least you figured it out

amber iron
#

if im getting a new, os-less device, should i install haos directly or proxmox as the os

raven forge
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You'll get a lot of different opinions on that. Mine is to go with the latter unless it's only got 1G of RAM or something

radiant sundial
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Does it support virtualization? lol

copper steppe
#

yeah, that's a popular question. I agree with Impact's response.

amber iron
#

whats the reason for proxmox over a direction haos install

raven forge
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You can use the device for other things as well and you get snapshots and easy backups

copper steppe
#

yes, what they said

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HA doesn't need much resource itself

topaz atlas
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Is the ODROID-N2+ still considered the best (in stock) device to use considering the CM4 is impossible to get for the Yellow?

humble mirage
#

Best overall, no... best SBC, maybe. #hardware-archived has a long history of better recommendations, mostly mini-PCs and old laptops

silent rover
#

I’m running HA on Raspberry PI 3B for 3 years. I started as a basic user and I’d like to think that I now am qualify as a middle level user. Over last 2 years, I’ve slowly added more devices and more automations to my HA. Currently I got about 40 devices and 4 cameras in my HA. I got about 15 different integrations including Tasmota, MQTT, Ring, Shelly, etc as well as 4-5 others thru HACS.

It is probably a time to replace my PI 3B. I’ve recently bought an Intel NUC N5095 8GB RAM 256GB M.2 SSD mini computer as replacement for my current PI. It came with Win11 preinstalled. I’m not certainl which method I should use to run HA on this NUC.

Should I go with “Generic x86-64” method or should I run HA over Windows11 using Virtualbox?

quiet lotus
#

Hello! I'm just starting starting out with HA and thought I could use my ODROID I have lying around. Unfortunately my model does not have an appropriate image file.

So I wanted to ask whether it is within the realms of possibility to create an image file for my model? I have an ODROID U3+ board, which has more computing power than the Raspberry Pi 3.

I have no experience in creating my own image files whatsoever, so I want to ask politely whether someone is able to create said image file? I'm reluctant to buy a new N2+ because the computing power with my board should be sufficient.

Thank you very much for reading concern.

raven forge
amber iron
silent rover
grand pivot
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All integrations are available regardless of installation type

silent rover
grand pivot
#

No

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Did you install containers on the Pi?

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HAOS is HAOS

silent rover
# grand pivot No

Sorry for bothering you further. What is the advantage of using proxmox then? I was thinking to use that X86-64 native installation method.

grand pivot
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You can run other things on the machine?

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With a bare mental install, you're limited to what's available as an addon. With proxmox you could spin up more VMs

stone nova
#

hi i have a qyery

raven forge
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Do share

velvet mantle
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hello, im on the Preparing Home Assistant screen and its stuck for a few minutes now
The lastest log is "INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete", nothing happened for ten minutes since that
should i wait or is it stuck?

brittle sail
#

pi4 or what hardware? it has to download some stuff during first boot so if you have slow internet / shit hardware like a pi it can take some time. i think the average is 20min but maybe that has changed

velvet mantle
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pi4, its connected to the ethernet so i guess its still downloading

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thanks

bright crow
#

So I messed up my HAOS installation on PI3. My guess is that it was an automation I did and now HA continuously reboots. I have spent some time understanding how I can access the HA files on the media card but no success. Have been trying WSL but it only gives me the PI portions (partition 1), not partition 0
Any idea

iron marten
#

ive just received my skyconnect; hoping to install it on my mac mini and run HA via docker. I cant seem to find any drivers for the skyconnect however? and it doesnt appear to be found by my mac

stone nova
# raven forge Do share

I am installing HAOS 9.5 RPI 4/400 on 16GB SD card and continually getting this.
This site can’t be reached192.168.0.85 refused to connect.
Try:

Checking the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
Tried changing the browser from edge to chrome as suggested by someone in HA ommunity but no avail.
Connecting through wifi as i have to do a headless setup

raven forge
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Plug in a monitor and see what it says. Does it grab a ip via DHCP or how do you know its ip?

stone nova
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i know the ip and dont have a monitor :/

stone nova
humble mirage
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You ... shouldn't be doing that

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You have HAOS, HA (Core) runs in a container

stone nova
humble mirage
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You are trying to use port 8123?

stone nova
#

yes..

humble mirage
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Try port 4357 for the observer

stone nova
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ok

humble mirage
#

Yes

stone nova
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same

humble mirage
#

That's a very bad sign and suggests that it hasn't even booted

stone nova
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Hmmm… can't reach this pageCheck if there is a typo in homeassistant.local.
Search the web for homeassistant local
If spelling is correct, try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

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why though

humble mirage
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Try the IP

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homeassistant.local requires mDNS working

stone nova
#

what is that. sorry ima noob

humble mirage
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You said http://192.168.0.85:4357/ and then posted DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN for homeassitant.local

stone nova
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yep im doing both same results

humble mirage
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Well, if the IP doesn't work then the hostname won't

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You need a monitor connected

stone nova
#

oh

placid sage
#

ohohoh... ive been running this homeassistant installation on a raspberry pi 4 on ubuntu for over a year but suddenly it stopped working as supposed. I fear the angry of my wife beacause the lights are not working anymore haha
anyone wanting to help me out?
I made an ubuntu update and now homeassistant is starting and the webinterface is on but NONE of the addons is showing neither can i see the add-ons menu in the config menu
the logs tell things like that:

[homeassistant.components.hassio.handler] Client error on /supervisor/info request Cannot connect to host 172.30.32.2:80 ssl:default [Connect call failed ('172.30.32.2', 80)]
i cant even find my backups, the webinterface backups is empty

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seems like i ignored the warnings running supervised on a not supported system, i know thats dumb. but maybe theres a way to recover my setup?

humble mirage
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Check /usr/share/hassio/backup - a quick Google suggests they may be there

placid sage
#

oh thx, i tried to find out but didnt look there... found them with your help

raven forge
humble mirage
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You can install it with WiFi, with a suitably prepared thumb drive

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You shouldn't, but you can

raven forge
placid sage
bright crow
humble mirage
humble mirage
stone nova
stone nova
raven forge
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I don't see this guy configuring WiFi for HAOS though

stone nova
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i did

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he is using ssd as well

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can i connect with ethernet and wifi both?

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or connect with ethernet and then have headless setup?

humble mirage
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Ethernet and headless is normal

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WiFi is not recommended

stone nova
#

ok

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i will try that way

raven forge
stone nova
#

ok so I have now connected the pi to ethernet,the address of the pi is 192.168.0.84. for headless setup i'm using ssh pi@192.168.0.84 but recieving the error ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.84 port 22: Connection refused

raven forge
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There is no SSH server running on HAOS by default and I also see no options to configure any settings for it in the PI imager so I'm not sure what you did.

stone nova
#

also this time i was unable to configure anything on the pi

#

what should i do then?

humble mirage
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I'd perform a fresh flash of HAOS

#

Also ensure that the network cable is connected before you power it up

raven forge
#

Explaining in detail what you did would be helpful. This is quite frustrating to be honest.
You should follow the installation as laid out in the docs. You can configure WiFi afterwards if you really have to

stone nova
stone nova
raven forge
#

Try again and screenshot the error for us? Headless just mean no display

stone nova
#

ok

stone nova
#

how do i attach the ss here

raven forge
#

Use a image sharing site and link it here

stone nova
raven forge
#

Have you tried downloading the image to your pc and flashing it from a local file?

stone nova
stone nova
#

Thankyou guys for bearing with me

errant bronze
#

Has anyone haad this experience? I have a OPI 4 LTS and strugling with HAOS installarion

radiant sundial
#

? are you installing haos or supervised. seems unclear to me

errant bronze
#

I would like to have the full power of HA on OrangepI 4 LTS. I would say that for this, I would need the haos. Since I am newbie here - trying to get some help

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I learned that docker installation would require all the addons to be on containers too. I am not linux expert. Thats why I am looking into HAOS. I had the HAOS on an old linux laptop, and would looking into upgrade the performance using the OPI 4 LTS

humble mirage
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I doubt an Orange Pi4 would be an upgrade from an old laptop

errant bronze
#

oh really?

humble mirage
#

Unless that was a really crappy laptop a Pi of any form will be a downgrade

errant bronze
#

it is a Processador: Intel® Celeron® CPU N3010 1.04 GHz

humble mirage
#

Well... that is a really crappy laptop then ablobjoy

radiant sundial
#

I mean what kind of performance problems do you think you're having

humble mirage
#

CPUMark 599, vs the Raspberry Pi4 around 900

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SD cards are shite though... don't use one

errant bronze
#

got it. so my perception was right.

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i would like to test the HA on PI and then transition to SSD.

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the laptop today has freezes once a week

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and a hard reset solves it

#

have you guys seen HAOS on a OrangePI? Can I follow the RPI tutorial??

humble mirage
#

I've seen people ask if it's possible

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I've not seen anybody say they've tried it and it works

errant bronze
#

😩

humble mirage
#

Do yourself a favour and buy something else 😉

#

Just about any mini-PC or old laptop from the last decade will be better. I ran HA on an i5 laptop for years

errant bronze
#

thank you

sly current
#

in my docker-compose.yml I have this line "- /opt/docker/containers/home-assistant:/config". But in the folder I have only ".storage" folder and no "config"

humble mirage
#

It should have created configuration.yaml there

#

What does your entire compose file look like?

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sly current
humble mirage
#

Looks fine, there's no configuration.yaml there?

sly current
#

It is the first file! you means that it does not contain configuration data

humble mirage
#

configuration.yaml only contains what you add to it

#

If you've set something up in the UI it goes elsewhere

sly current
#

why if I remove every thing relative to the HA container and reinstall the container the first web page is not the setup?

humble mirage
#

Because that information is held in .storage/

#

You have to:

  1. Stop the container
  2. Delete the entire config folder
sly current
#

I have done that several time! I certainly miss something elsewhere

empty palm
#

Hello, having issues setting up a Raspberry Pi. I've ran HA on a virtualbox for a month as a staging environment without issue. This is my first time with a Pi so I'm sure this is something simple. I flashed the HA Install to both a USB drive as well as a SD Card and I get the same results with both (attempting to install to an SSD). The Pi will POST when no bootable media is inserted but will fail to POST (just a blank screen) when bootable media is inserted. I've flashed both the USB and the SD card with the latest image from the github using belena.

raven forge
#

Which pi do you have? Which image did you flash?

empty palm
#

4b... looking at the image now

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haos_rpi3 (assuming that's the wrong version)

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downloading rpi4 now

#

rubber duck debugging might have got me again

radiant sundial
#

I was gonna wonder if the bootloader for the rpi gets updated so you can do stuff like usb boot

#

it's been a while since I needed to update mine though

empty palm
#

Am I thinking about this correctly that it would be better to install to a SSD drive over an SD due to database writes?

radiant sundial
#

SSD will definitely be better

empty palm
#

thank you... quite the community y'all have here. I taught myself Crestron a few years back and just don't want to do it again. Hoping this will be as fun to learn.

sly current
#

another information: no issue to set up the HA container but I got this message in the log: 2023-04-02 19:20:46.959 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http] Failed to create HTTP server at port 8123: [Errno 98] error while attempting to bind on address ('0.0.0.0', 8123): address in use

raven forge
#

Check with docker ps for orphans

empty palm
#

looks like I've got joy with the right image now on the rpi4

sly current
#

Outside removing the container HA and the folder associated do I have to remove otherthings?

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docker ps -a did not show any other orphans

raven forge
#

Maybe lsof -i TCP:8123 -s TCP:LISTEN will show something.
If lsof is not available you can also try something like netstat --tcp --listening --numeric --program | grep -E ':8123\s'

empty palm
#

well thought we were in a good spot. Install script runs, pi turns off halfway through. doesn't reboot

raven forge
#

Brownout maybe? Does the monitor show anything interesting?

empty palm
#

no, just cycling like it's gettign signal then not

#

going to try a different power supply

radiant sundial
#

power supply quite important lol

empty palm
#

I know too small a power supply is a problem but is too big an issue?

raven forge
#

No. There's a difference between a charger and a power supply though. Not everything is good for providing its power continuously or in bursts

empty palm
#

Thank you @raven forge

radiant sundial
#

it needs to provide the min amps but if it's rated for higher it's okay

sly current
#

tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:8123 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2036/python3
tcp6 0 0 :::8123 :::* LISTEN 2036/python3

humble mirage
#

2036 is HA

#

You appear to have HA still running

raven forge
#

I suggest you open htop, press t for tree mode and look for that pid. Sorting by it with F6 might be helpful. You can also press F3 and search for the name.
The other choice would be something like killall/pkill python3 (obviously a hammer and not the best way), kill 2036 or similar.
htop makes it a bit easier to kill the right process as you might have to kill the parent, if any

sly current
#

thank you but it is not with docker! how can I track it?

brittle sail
placid sage
#

Have you found a solution for this problem? i am running the same board and latest software, but nothing happens when trying to boot. thanks!

raven forge
sly current
#

I have try to use htop thx but I don't see the 2036 pid. I use the kill 2036 command then remove HA docker and find the same warning regarding the port and having the same issue on the web welcome page of HA

#

exploring again the tcp log I find another pid using the port 8123 : 117805/python3

humble mirage
# 
docker ps -a
sly current
#

I finally find the root cause: I have a snap HA running in the back. I will remove it and check again. Thank you

#

It works now many thanks

raven forge
humble mirage
#

Because it catches containers that are currently stopped, but were running 5 seconds ago

#

Not that we've seen the impact of things like Watchtower here, or other problems caused by errant scripts/tools

placid sage
#

Hello!
I am trying to boot HAOS on my TinkerBoard 2. I have flashed the SD Card with Debian - works fine. Flashed it with HAOS - nothing boots
It does not even boot a tiny bit, normally there's a green blinking led on the board but I do not see it now, and nothing on the display either, not even a black screen
I'm kind of confused what is happening thanks for helping

raven forge
radiant sundial
#

it might not be supported by that image tbh

placid sage
#

im not sure either, its a newer board. I guess it is not supported, is there any other way i can make it work?

radiant sundial
#

you likely have to go down the path of evil with supervised? lol

placid sage
#

i will most certainly try that, is that any different than this?

radiant sundial
#

quite involved

humble mirage
#

Supervised is a trap... don't do that to yourself

#

It's a bit like learning to juggle by starting with running chainsaws

placid sage
#

ah, i see.. it would turn my 30 minute task into a month of headaches im assuming

humble mirage
#

The biggest problem is that the minute you deviate from the requirements it'll go badly wrong

#

The requirements also change without advance warning

placid sage
#

maybe that isn't the best way to go.. i'll have to try a different tinker board model to see what happens

radiant sundial
#

you probably want an rpi instead lol

humble mirage
#

Container or HAOS are the two sane options

#

Core is for nutters like me
Supervised is for people who hate themselves

radiant sundial
#

generic x64 devices woudl work well too. or virtualized stuff

placid sage
#

rpi is easier, cause i have one running rn.. which took 10 minutes 🙂 but i am starting a business with tinkerboards and wanted to try this as my first tinker project

radiant sundial
#

lol

placid sage
#

thanks a lot, ill keep looking and hopefully they will support more models soon

humble mirage
#

Well... one option is to help create that support

radiant sundial
#

I think you end up using armbian with tinkerboards

humble mirage
#

Depends on your skills really

placid sage
#

i will do my best and improve my skills, which arent there quite yet

radiant sundial
#

I think the real problem is deviating from common distros and what not and linux arch etc. it's a pain to generate and maintain so many options I'm sure

#

you kinda want the hardware and software environment to be expected / easy / common

summer tinsel
#

I am using the Linux install of HA (https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux) and have been doing so for years now. I like the fact that I can run other applications on my linux box (like the TICK stack) and link them to HA. I noticed that my version of portainer is outdated. How do you update portainer, which is inside the KVM machine? I don't think I can use Docker compose outside of the KVM as in fact Linux doesn't know Docker is installed inside my VM

#

I tried using the terminal inside HA but it does not seem to support any of the docker commands I need

pastel sphinx
summer tinsel
#

@pastel sphinx This looks similar to the supervised KVM install. How do I then update Portainer inside the KVM? I was hoping there would be a terminal I could use to run the required upgrade and docker install

pastel sphinx
#

@summer tinsel No my guide uses the HAOS 9.5 image, so it's not "supervised" (e.g. bringing your own OS to the plate).

sudden canyon
#

hey all - looking to move to a docker container instead of HAOS, I've installed core fine, just wondering how to install the supervisor / add-ons?

brisk willow
#

You can't, but add-ons are just pieces of software you can install yourself

radiant sundial
#

the container version doesn't support addons

sudden canyon
#

oh right... So the blueprint for lack of better words is install HA Core and then install the add-ons separately?

radiant sundial
brisk willow
#

Well, HA Container, but yes (except you won't install the add-on version)

sudden canyon
#

righto. thanks... just mucking around while i have a sick day 🙂

brisk willow
#

Oof, sorry to hear that

sudden canyon
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Its ok, weekend ruined by being sick - never happens on a work day haha. not 100% so thought why not use one of the many sick days I have banked over covid 😄

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so how does something like ESP Home running in its own container interact with HA Container?

brisk willow
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I don't think the ESPHome dashboard needs to communicate with HA, but to answer your question, that's where integrations come in

sudden canyon
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ah right...

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what about something like VS Code Server?

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or Terminal

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(just going thru my existing add-ons)

brisk willow
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Terminal no longer applies

sudden canyon
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cos you use it thru the container yeah?

brisk willow
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Well because you can just SSH to the host

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As far as VSCode, just expose your HA config as a volume

sudden canyon
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ok, will have to figure that one out 😄 and I assume something like HA Google Drive Backup, you'd just schedule your own script to do that

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(using unraid so that is easy enough).

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Figured out HACS already - most important one, can I restore from backup from a HAOS to HA Container instance?

brisk willow
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I use rsnapshot for local backups and rclone for Google drive backups

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Not directly, but you can copy the files over where you want them to be

brittle sail
sudden canyon
cobalt python
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hello! (please redirect me if this is the wrong channel) i'm trying to get HA running on virtualbox, and I keep getting EXC_CRASHs on my mac os. (will add the log in thread!)

sudden canyon
raven forge
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I'd suggest you use PhpMyAdmin addon to export the data and then import it either via console, a client (I recommend HeidiSQL), or PhpMyAdmin on the other side

sudden canyon
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thanks i will check it out

low notch
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you will most certainly need a proper mysql client to import, phpmyadmin only does 50mb DBs afaik

sudden canyon
low notch
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I think adminer goes a little above the 50mb but not much, you want to use mysql-client (mysql) or some app with a gui on your pc

raven forge
copper steppe
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mysql -u whatever -p whatever yourdatabase < yourstuff.sql

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Meh, something like that, it's been many years

iron marten
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as a linux/windows user, who had a mac mini laying around that I intended to use HA in docker with skyconnect passthrough, id like to say fuck macOS and docker not supporting USB -.........-

humble mirage
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Docker on MacOS is nerfed anyway

iron marten
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Think I'll just install linux on it

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Rather than the VM route

raven forge
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Or install linux and run it as a VM there 🙂

errant bronze
fallen lichen
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Why not use Docker? Virtualizing on a Pi seems like it'd be a disaster

errant bronze
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Docker does not allow me to have the addons as far as I learned

fallen lichen
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Docker allows you even more flexibility.... to add whatever you want

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Correct, it doesn't let you use HA addons though

#

What happened when you attempted a HAOS install? Didn't boot?

errant bronze
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HAOS install straight on Orange PI?

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I havent found an image for that

placid sage
errant bronze
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@placid sage do you mean the RPI image will run on OPI? Sorry if this is a dumb question

fallen lichen
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I think it has been stated, but the Orange PI isn't official supported on HA OS natively.... could an image boot? Possibly, you'd have to try.

errant bronze
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i will

placid sage
errant bronze
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i would say different architecture. but just testing to see

fiery fox
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Hi, I am trying to migrate from HA OS to docker. I read in the forums that after the docker container is comfigured i have to copy my old config folder to the new docker. I did this but the only that has been migrated is the entities I have created manually in mi config.yaml but I am not able to see all the other integrations created from the UI. Do I need to do anything else?

fallen lichen
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Make sure you've copied all of the hidden files as well

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There's a .storage folder that has most of the other info

fiery fox
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Yes I copied it, well I used the cp -R command in Linux, I assume it copies the hidden folders as well right?

humble mirage
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Depends on how you ran it

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cp -R * won't get the hidden files and folders

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cp -R config/ will

fiery fox
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Yes, i ran the first command with *

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My mistake

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I will try with the second command. Regarding the zigbee integration (ZHA) it is going to work doing just that (copy config folder)?

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What about my USB ZigBee coordinator?

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(the migration is done from a RPi to a PC running Ubuntu and docker)

novel blaze
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i have been using HA installed from pip on debian. it is a huge hassle upgrading python version for newer HA release or getting a new distro so i decide to go official route with OVA deployment on my ESXI host. all did go well and instance running straight away. how do i migrate configuration? is creating backup from settings and restroing it on new instance enough?

humble mirage
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Yup, backup and restore

novel blaze
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or backups have to be restored on the same type of installation?

novel blaze
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how long it could take? is there a way to check what it is doing (in case something did go wrong)? backup is from 2023.1.7 and it is trying to restore for freshly installed HA. i have had certificates provided by certbot so it could have failed on that (http configuration) but didn't say anything

humble mirage
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Then it'll likely error on startup as it can't find the certs, but it should still restore and start

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How long it takes... shrug

novel blaze
humble mirage
novel blaze
humble mirage
novel blaze
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so install ssh addon, ssh over to get access to limited list of directories and edit configuration so it starts?

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any way to just drop to shell from a remote screen without dealing with addon(s)?

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okay, '#login' it is. still does not pick up old backup after commenting out http section and does not tell what exactly is wrong. great >_>

fallen lichen
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ha core logs will spit out the logs

novel blaze
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it spits more than a few screen worth of logs that is hard to understand what exactly it didn't like.

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ha core stop / restart didn't help. had to restart host and it did start with edited out http section

golden walrus
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Hey all, i installed HA using Docker on my synology NAS last year. I chose an image that is tagged with an actual version instead of "stable" or "latest". I now want to update HA. If i download the "stable" tag and restart the container, will it work? i have this feeling it won't because somewhere its looking for the old version tag

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also, should i use 'latest' or 'stable' tags?

amber iron
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i uh, messed uo the ha device i was on and want to grab my config manually from the proper .img. what directory do i need to go to

raven forge
raven forge
amber iron
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just my config and automation yaml, for any changes i made since last backup

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and .img cause when i open the vdi it shows all the .img files, so thats what i ahve access to

raven forge
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Assuming you use HAOS, the config directory is in /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant/ if that's what you wanted to know

amber iron
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ye, thats it, ty

golden walrus
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ha, i remembered/got it. You have to export the Docker container settings, modify the json to point to the new image, delete old container, import settings, then start

amber iron
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question if youre using x86-64 c, can you use the integrated bluetooth if it has it for either plain haos and/or proxmox or is an adapter required either way

acoustic thistle
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If the bluetooth chipset is supported, it should work.

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If using proxmox, you'll need to configure usb passthrough.

sonic ore
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Im trying to install a virtual hard disk file and haos isnt showing up

humble mirage
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What do you mean? Are you trying to use the VBox install method, or adding an additional hard drive to an existing install that's using VBox?

sonic ore
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This is my first time touching home assistant so i dont know what you mean sorry

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but im setting it up

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for the first time

humble mirage
sonic ore
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i was just following a video i found online

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Im 90% sure I did everything right so far

humble mirage
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Follow the documentation - videos can be outdated very quickly

sonic ore
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ok

humble mirage
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That's 2 to 3 years old, the odds of it still being 100% correct are low, very very low

sonic ore
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It says the same stuff on the document and when I go to virtual hard disk file to select to create my virutal machine and I go to this pc and dowloads my haos ova ins't coming up in the downloads list even when it does come up when I go directly to files

humble mirage
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You'll need to unzip the file

sonic ore
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Thanks

humble mirage
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Select “Use an existing virtual hard disk file”, select the unzipped VDI file from above

sonic ore
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ah ok

#

Hi again im getting this error when trying to start up VM Name: Home assistant

Not in a hypervisor partition (HVP=0) (VERR_NEM_NOT_AVAILABLE).
AMD-V is disabled in the BIOS (or by the host OS) (VERR_SVM_DISABLED).
Result Code:
E_FAIL (0X80004005)
Component:
ConsoleWrap

raven forge
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Do you have VIrtualization enabled in the BIOS/UEFI?

sonic ore
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No clue

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How can I check/enable it

raven forge
quasi wedge
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hey guys, I've been having an issue lately that might be related to my server being on wifi - I'm getting this error when trying to connect from my phone, and on my computer it just times out and doesn't connect, and the only way to fix it is to restart ha https://i.imgur.com/c9JCo04.jpg

it was recommended i keep an eye out for when it's failed and look through using the terminal at what's going on - it just happened and I had a look at core logs and it's spitting out these logs - does anyone know if there's a workaround for it on wifi? or what the next steps are/if I'm barking up the wrong tree? https://i.imgur.com/9Pio49U.png

thanks in advanced!

sudden quarry
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How are you accessing the terminal?

quasi wedge
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So atm I only have a Windows machine to run ha, so I'm using virtual box

sudden quarry
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can you run a network info command in the terminal

quasi wedge
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Sorry, I just got home a little while ago and restarted ha so we could use it while at home

sudden quarry
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Thats fine

quasi wedge
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Does it need to be crashing when I run that? Or can I do it now?

sudden quarry
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Now works

quasi wedge
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Ok, sec

sudden quarry
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Hmm, seems like it cannot reach AWS cloud servers

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When it crashes again can you open the terminal on a windows pc and see if you can ping the ap-southeast-1-1.ui.nabu.casa you may need to check its the same hostname when it crashes

humble mirage
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That assumes that you can ever ping it

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Not every host responds to pings when up, indeed most won't

sudden quarry
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Thats true but most AWS respond

humble mirage
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Try it and see if it responds now

sudden quarry
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Which one?

humble mirage
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The one you suggested they ping

sudden quarry
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oh yes thats right, the instance technically wouldnt exist would it.

humble mirage
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You're missing the point

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You're making assumptions that every host responds to pings

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That hasn't been true for decades

sudden quarry
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yes thats true, I was just suggesting what a maintainer said on github with a similar issue

quasi wedge
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So what could be the cause of that then? Just bad luck? Or could there be a way around it so I don't have drop-outs in future?

humble mirage
#

Something's going wrong with your WiFi - it's probably something specific to your setup as many people do manage to use WiFi with HAOS without this level of pain

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The recommended fix is still to use wired networking

quasi wedge
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Its definitely weird and I don't know what it could be

quasi wedge
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Are there any settings I should check for my network?

manic bane
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Are you using an ISP provided router? If so, get a different one

quasi wedge
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Ah, that could be it - would there be a way to tell? I have plex connecting remotely constantly, so don't have a cgnat or anything - is there something I should look for?

merry summit
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Not sure #installation-archived is the best place, but here goes....
I really really want to start with a clean sheet using HA! My current HA install is a couple of years, and I have messed up so much during that time. Currently it works, but...
The only thing I actually care about from the current isntall is the long term statistics. I have focused quite a bit on energy monitoring and have good data in this for the two years my current install have been up.

Is ther any way I can do a clean install of HA, but keep my long term stats?

I am open to using some 3rd party tool to dump the data from the old to the new DB if that is what it takes...

humble mirage
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Pretty sure the answer will be that there's no official way. It may be possible to migrate the history over (basically just copy over the database from the current install)

merry summit
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I was already pretty certain there was no official way, so thats perfectly fine. Do you have anything to go on about how to copy the DB over in a way that allows the new install to read it?

humble mirage
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If you're going from SQLite to SQLite just copy the file to the new install - if you're using HAOS you'll probably have to complete the onboarding, stop HA, and then use Samba to copy the file over

manic bane
merry summit
humble mirage
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Yes, and yes

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Where else would they be?

#

Certainly not down the back of the sofa

quasi wedge
merry summit
manic bane
humble mirage
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You can store lots there, usually socks and remote controls

manic bane
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Don't forget coins

merry summit
humble scaffoldBOT
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@merry summit When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

humble mirage
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And yes, just the recorder... good luck

quasi wedge
merry summit
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This time I tried to use the <shift>+click method.... Hope it works! 🙂

icy spoke
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Write database out on paper, roll paper up and slide in sock, drop down back of sofa. Et voila. If you let the dog chew the paper first, you even have lossy storage.

There are three basic paths for a "database" - sql lite file on instance, add-on database (maria/influx are xommon), third party database on another vm, another machine, or the same machine but outside Home Assistant.

The first two do not survive a reinstall so backup and copy/reimport again. The third will likely survive a reinatall, but backup just in case.

Also, strongly suggest a new install with the same HA version. The database 'schema' changes every now and than, and restoring a sql backup to a modified schema.. it is not impossible, but it is more work 😦 and may leave room for bugs and frustrations

merry summit
icy spoke
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Just make backups 😄 if possible, install on new media / disks, so you have the old ones intact to refer back to

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And be aware that typing with fingers crossed increases typos.. 😄

tender dock
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Should I be able to take a full backup from a supervised install and restore it on an HAOS install?

merry summit
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I've even planned this so well that I've sent my family out of town for a few days before attenmpting this... 😄

tender dock
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Well, it's not working.. getting this notification after the fact: ```Invalid config
The following integrations and platforms could not be set up:

history_stats.sensor (Show logs)
history (Show logs)
logbook (Show logs)
energy (Show logs)
default_config (Show logs)```

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And the first error in the logs shows: 2023-04-04 06:59:46.766 ERROR (Recorder) [homeassistant.components.recorder.util] Error executing query: (sqlite3.DatabaseError) database disk image is malformed [SQL: UPDATE recorder_runs SET "end"=?, closed_incorrect=? WHERE recorder_runs.run_id = ?] [parameters: ('2023-04-04 13:59:46.748224', 1, 436)] (Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/20/4xp6) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1964, in _exec_single_context self.dialect.do_execute( File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/default.py", line 748, in do_execute cursor.execute(statement, parameters) sqlite3.DatabaseError: database disk image is malformed

humble mirage
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That's pretty normal if you back it up while running

tender dock
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how do I back it up without it running?

humble mirage
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No idea how you do that with Supervised/HAOS, but you could use the Samba add-on to copy the database file after you stop HA

tender dock
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doesn't this mean that all the backups are useless then? if they can't be used to restore?

humble mirage
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You can use them, you just don't get your history

tender dock
#

what's the name of the db file?

humble mirage
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home-assistant_v2.db

tender dock
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and how do I drop down to the base OS in HAOS to put the file in place?

humble mirage
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Stop HA, obviously, before you do that

dull sky
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hello, Can someone help me understand why I can't access HA remotely?

tender dock
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how do I stop HA in HAOS?

humble mirage
humble mirage
dull sky
# humble mirage What have you done?

I tried with several videos and tutorials, I configured duckdns and nginx, I think I did the port forwarding correctly, but it doesn't work and I don't understand what's wrong

tender dock
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I remember there's a command in the HA CLI that drops you down to the real OS...

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so you're saying I could do ha core stop in HAOS, swap in the db file, then start it back up?

tender dock
#

where are the backup files stored locally?

runic crystal
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Folks, is there a NUC of some kind that is recommended to run HA ?

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Trying to move away from an ESXi install but still want some kind of beefy machine

humble mirage
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#hardware-archived has a long history of recommendations, and a pinned message to help us help you

runic crystal
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ah cool wasn't sure between the two channels

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thx

raven forge
runic crystal
#

I get a bunch of "[supervisor.api.middleware.security] Invalid token for access /xxx" since my last reboot and it looks like only half of my HA is loaded, any chance this is a quick known issue ?

#

google isn't giving me concrete stuff to look for

#

I am running a supervised install on debian

scarlet ledge
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When i was using microsd and got some errors, i noticed supervisor was able to restart HA automatically.
Actually, after switching to SSD and having the same errors as before, my HA instance hangs up and not restart automatically, so i am forced to manually turn off my RaspBerry pi and then turn on.
Is it maybe a problem with supervisor? And, how to check it?

runic crystal
scarlet ledge
#

with the micro sd it was magically automatic... supervisor restart HA

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Supervisor seems to not restart HA automatically when since i switched to SSD

tender dock
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hmm.. when I stop the docker container for homeassistant, something is restarting it.. how do I stop that from restarting?

humble mirage
#

If you're using Supervised or HAOS don't do that

tender dock
#

how do I stop it to copy the db file then?

humble mirage
#

Same as the last time you asked 😉

tender dock
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that's in HAOS, I don't have an ha cli in supervised

humble mirage
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If you'd installed the SSH add-on you would have

sick marsh
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hello guys i have a question

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ca somone help me

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@sick marsh Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

  1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
  2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
  3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
  4. What's the exact error message?
  5. When did it arise?
  6. What exactly don't you "get"?
  7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?
sick marsh
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first of all sry for my bad english.

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i have a problem to install the Generic x86-64, tried on the DELL Wyse with an 500GB SanDisk HDD and Balena Etcher but it wont even start to flash the HDD instant faild to flash error.

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4GB of ram installed its the WYSE Zx0

raven forge
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What error?

sick marsh
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Something went wrong while writing haos_generic-x86-64-9.5.img to ASMT USB 3.0 Destop H SCSI Disk Device (\.\PysicalDrive3).

raven forge
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Looks like you typed that yourself. Maybe you can make a screenshot of the whole message? Try downloading the file and flash from local file if you flashed from URL

sick marsh
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tried both ways

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always same error

#

is there a way to open a console or log fiel

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file

crude inlet
sick marsh
#

sata to usb over usb3.0

crude inlet
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are you in a live ubuntu session?

sick marsh
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i made it formating on FAT32 and tried again now it worked

merry summit
#

What is the difference between the generic x86_64 and the ova images?

high token
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generic is for barematel installs. You install it directly to the drive you want to run HAOS on

#

ova images or for virtual machines

barren heath
#

I'm looking to install HA on a MacMini M2 as that seems to be the best server for the bucks, at least performance wise (I want to run Plex, transcode 4K, video monitoring and such so a NUC or Raspberry Pie would not be enough). Lastly, as it will run 24/7 it's friendly towards my energy bills.

One thing that kind of sucks with MacOS (and Windows) is Docker when comparing to how natively and smooth it runs in Linux. For one it's not possible to pass the USB which will not allow me to pass my USB dongle for Z-Wave and Zigbee.

As I see it I have three other options:

  1. Run natively directly in the Python env.
  2. Install and run Linux instead of MacOS
  3. Run Linux through Parallels (vm)

As of now I'm leaning towards number 1, running it directly in Python env. Is there any disadvantages with this that I'm not thinking of?

tender dock
tender dock
#

why back up a .db file if it's unusable?

runic crystal
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I'm running into [supervisor.utils] Can't execute rebuild while a task is in progress, I can't find any info on how to see what is the task causing this issue, any idea how I could get more info ? I tried running ha in debug but this was way too verbose

merry summit
#

I was in here earlier asking about moving the long term statistics to a new HA instance. It was mentioned that this should be as easy as using the same recorder config, given that the DB was hosted outside the built in SQLite in HA. While that will probably work (setting up stuff now), I just realised that this will also move over the entire DB, obviously. I'd rather avoid that in order to decrease the size of the DB in the new instance...

Can I migrate only the long term stats and not the short term data?
Willing to try unsupported 3rd party tools in order to succeed!

low notch
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You‘d need the exact same entities with their ids in the new setup

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To make this work

#

And that is quite hard except you already started with a proper naming scheme

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In this case you should be good to go with a full db backup and just purge with 0 days left

manic bane
barren heath
hexed mirage
low notch
novel blaze
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(that's too advanced i guess)

junior dune
#

Hello. I am in trouble with HA. Yesterday without touching anything, Ha lost external connection to the web. From there, all integrations that requires connection to the web are disabled. I restart HA. It takes a long time (like 20 minutes!!!) . Internally in my network i have no problem accessing HA. HA is installed on a  Raspberry Pi 4. can anyone hel me? I thing this is the problem "23-04-05 10:11:48 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.base] Watchdog found dns plugin stopped, restarting...

humble scaffoldBOT
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If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

humble mirage
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Check the log file ☝️

junior dune
#

Hello I am in trouble with HA Yesterday

barren heath
barren heath
#

Another computer I've been checking out is Nvidia Jetson. It's great for graphical tasks but have just 4gb of ram. The MacMini M2 feels hard to beat when comparing performance, bucks and power efficiency (power has become very expensive here lately, around $0,2 per kilowatt)

hexed mirage
barren heath
humble mirage
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Not really

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I run HA in a venv (on Linux), the only thing I "miss" are add-ons, which is just software in Docker containers modified for the Supervisor

hexed mirage
barren heath
barren heath
low notch
#

your python env installation will not make you happy

#

go docker

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and do not do docker on macos

humble mirage
hexed mirage
barren heath
low notch
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your pyenv will fight with macos, usb will not work as expected most of the time and some other disadvantages

#

discovery will also be a mess

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I run macos daily and I would never think about running HA on it, I don't even touch homebrew, it messes with the os

barren heath
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I have very little (about none) experience with pyenv to be honest. Normally I work with Go and Node. Is pyenv like a virtual machine that does not access USB and other OS specific devices?

low notch
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sincerely, a macos user that hasn't reinstalled macos ever. my userfolder literally dates back to `12

barren heath
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Hehe, mine is about the same. Haven't reinstalled since Snow Leopard I believe.

low notch
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and you want to keep it that way, so separate this install from your work machine with a vm or other ways

barren heath
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But OK. Thanks for your heads up. Feels like it's worth testing out first. Otherwise the best solution would probably be to go with that Celeron N5105 and run only HA and Plex on it. If I feel the urge for video recognition I can think about that then and run that on another machine if necessary.

barren heath
low notch
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a old (intel) macbook can run linux fine

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even the apple silicon ones can run linux but not at the level you want rn with gpu support

cursive kraken
#

Hey guys I just installed the HA 9.5 image on a Pi 4B, but it seems to just crash cycle.
I used Balena Etcher and it verified it fine.

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Not sure what I did wrong

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I would upload an image but doesn't let me

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Confirmed I did install the pi 4 image and it's a pi 4 model B

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I will try reflashing

raven forge
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Use an image sharing site and share the link. Not sure why images aren't permitted but it's the case for a lot of channels here

humble mirage
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Because too many people share images of text, or flood the channels

cursive kraken
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Yeah fair enough. I'll see if reflashing works and go from there

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omg seems to be working

#

Maybe I selected the wrong image? weird

crude inlet
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The wrong image results in nothing/black screen if you've got a monitor connected.

cursive kraken
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No I meant the generic HA image

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instead of the specific pi4 version

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haos_generic-aarch64-9.5.img instead of haos_rpi4-64-9.5.img

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Turns out it doesn't like that much if that's the case hah! Working now though. Just connected to it on my phone in the HA App, says can take up to 20 mins, so now I wait

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Not sure what I am going to do with it yet, but I have door sensors for my ubquiti gear, wonder if it can alert me if doors are left open etc

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Wish I could see what it was doing. Still running

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yay it finished

cursive kraken
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okay now idk what to do with it. A painter with a blank canvas!

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hahaha

dire birch
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Help with Android Companion App, I've changed router from a TP Link to an ASUS. Everything worked with the TP but now I cannot access HA. Using DuckDNS, configured the ports 8143, 433 etc. On the surface its all setup as the TP link. Any suggestions to troubleshoot?

humble mirage
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Ignore the app for a minute, does it work from anything?

dire birch
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Tried entering via browser my duckdns.org address and nothing

humble mirage
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What about the LAN IP (and port) with https://?

dire birch
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internal works, my previous setup with TP Link worked both internal and external with my duckdns address

humble mirage
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Ok, so then it's a problem related to the port forwarding

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Start by checking in the admin screen of your router and looking at the WAN IP - make sure it matches what your DuckDNS hostname resolves to

radiant sundial
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I was gonna say maybe your ip changed

crude inlet
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Is "8143" a typo you made here in Discord or something you purposefully changed?

dire birch
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8123, error in discord

crude inlet
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ok just checking

dire birch
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can it be a coincidence that my smart things were not updating sensors the moment I changed routers?

crude inlet
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new router means a new local network. all ips are going to be different unless that was accounted for

dire birch
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I did setup static IPs, the binary sensors work

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From my research could it be a dynamic dns setting within the router? Noticed the TP Link was using TP Link as a provider?

humble mirage
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  1. Does your WAN IP match your DuckDNS/whatever hostname?
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  1. Does the port forwarding go to the new/current LAN IP of your HA host?
dire birch
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I need to re-connect my ASUS router and I'll check. If 1 and 2 are correct can you suggest a number 3...4 step to troubleshoot.

humble mirage
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Start with those two

dire birch
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Thanks

chilly verge
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I'm having trouble connecting to my new Home Assistant install on the local network. I used the 9.5 image for RPi 3 as given by the Raspberry Pi imager.
I've tried connecting to it from LAN and WAN, using both the ISP-supplied router and another router that I had spare. In the second case, the only devices connected to the router were the Home Assistant raspi over LAN, and the laptop I was using to connect to it on WAN.
In all permutations that I've tried, I've tested both the http://homeassistant.local:8123/ URL and the direct IP connection. The home assistant raspi does show up in my router config, I'm just not able to reach its conf page.
Is there a router setting I have to change?

radiant sundial
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are you sure it's up and running so that you can connect?

chilly verge
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Pretty sure. If I ping it by ip, it responds.

olive vessel
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Hi ! my HA running on port 443. I need also be able to reach on 80 locally. How can i set 2 port

humble mirage
humble mirage
olive vessel
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Oh ok !

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Thanks

chilly verge
# humble mirage Try port 4357 - the observer

I was able to reach a status page using that port on the IP, but not on homeassistant.local. The status page reported the following:

Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Unsupported
Healthy: Unhealthy

humble mirage
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Oooh, that's bad

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Can you connect a keyboard and monitor?

chilly verge
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Sure, one moment

humble mirage
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You'll have to power cycle it for that to work, so hook the monitor up and then power cycle the Pi

chilly verge
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It's booted to cli

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And it's working now???

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The dashboard reports all green, and homeassistant.local connects.

radiant sundial
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lol

humble mirage
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Maybe it just needed a reboot

chilly verge
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I dunno, I've powercycled the thing quite a few times during all this.

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I just hope it keeps working without the monitor.

humble mirage
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It should

shell sundial
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I have problem installing HAOS 9.5 on RPi4
Failed to start Wait Until Kernel Time Synchronized
because of that haos-data doesn't resize and I'm stuck on Waiting for Home Assistant CLI to be ready...
My router is running openwrt at address 192.168.1.1 and it's propagating dhcp-option 42 with address 192.168.1.1 which runs NTP

raven forge
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Is it connected via ethernet?

shell sundial
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yes, it is, however nothing in dmesg suggests that

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the leds on port light up, I have a ssh root prompt after using CONFIGURE usb drive with ssh key of my host

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I have no clue what might be wrong with dhcp, dhcpdump from other host contains:
OPTION: 42 ( 4) NTP servers 192.168.1.1

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openwrt's server respons to: ```ntpdate - q 192.168.1.1
server 192.16B.1.1, stratum 3, offset +375.966541, delay 0.10394
5 Apr 11:48:24 ntpdate(1568]: step time server 192.168.1.1 offset +375.966541 sec

humble scaffoldBOT
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@shell sundial I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
shell sundial
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running on haos

adjtime state 0 status 2001 time Wed 2023-04-05 19:03:44.083208 UTC
crystal quiver
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Where in the logs would I find info as to why Home Assistant doesn't appear to see any updates to HA Core, Supervisor, etc., while running ha core update and so on on the shell updates it fine?

low notch
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do you miss the version integration?

crystal quiver
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Not sure, it's a friends installation. But it's the Pi image.

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I haven't one set up over here and updates work fine.

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Hmmm ha refresh-updates on his terminal gives a 403.

crystal quiver
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For some reason the update.* entities for the various HA components were disabled. He says he never touched it. handgesture

left tangle
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I wasnt sure if I should do the windows one or the generic x8664 one

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I want to do OS install. its a windows laptop but the guide is talking about a virtual machine so im lost

radiant sundial
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if you're not going to run windows on it then you probably want the generic

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would suggest so since it's older

hard skiff
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Does anyone know how to set up TLS without LetsEncrypt on the HAOS virtual machine? It's hard to configure the reverse proxy when there's seemingly no way to upload certificates to the machine

raven forge
quasi wedge
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hey guys, what's the general consensus for running HA through a nas? is it recommended over just a pi?

radiant sundial
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as a VM?

quasi wedge
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i'm not sure - is there any other way? atm i'm trialing HA on my windows machine in a VM but apparently that's not the best way to run it, so was looking at other options - i eventually want to get a nas anyway so was hoping i could kill 2 birds with one stone

raven forge
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You can run a NAS as a VM too. What's important is the hardware you're using

quasi wedge
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so does it matter what type of nas i get then? i've been having some issues running HA on my windows through a VM at the moment, so was hoping a nas could fix them

radiant sundial
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What's the issue?

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I mean if you're already having problems I don't see how making it harder on yourself will make it any better later lol

drifting patrol
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So it appears my SD card finally went kaput (been delaying moving things off of it for a long time, I know I know). I'm hoping the files I was able to pull using DiskInternals will be helpful to restore to a relatively recent backup since I also don't have one of those with my most recent changes.

I've been running on a RPi for a long while, and it's been doing fine for me. I don't really have any 100% on machines currently besides a newly added Synology DS. Is there any reason I should consider trying to use the NAS instead of rebuilding on my Pi? If I want to just rebuild on my Pi just go through general setup again then try to load the backup once the base system is running?

brisk aspen
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where would be the best place to suggest that when a release happens, for the companion app the brew cask is updated at teh same time.

quasi wedge
# radiant sundial What's the issue?

ever since i got a nabu casa trial cloud account, i keep having errors when trying to connect to HA - after a random period of time, HA crashes and can't be fixed unless i close the VM and reopen it

some people are suggesting it's because my computer running the VM is a windows computer on wifi, but i haven't been able to test plugging an ethernet cable in to test yet - was hoping a nas would be better, but it sounds like it might be the same thing

radiant sundial
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random errors? what kind?

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I mean it could be anything... even faulty ram lol

quasi wedge
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true, sorry, one sec, let me get the pictures

quasi wedge
radiant sundial
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I would guess your internet isn't stable

quasi wedge
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that's what i've been told, but everything else seems to be working fine - i have a dedicated plex machine on the network that never has an issue playing things back on wifi, and i wfh and connect remotely using the same computer that has HA running and i never have any dropouts at work

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it's so weird

hard skiff
quasi wedge
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ah, so i'd have to check whether the nas is capable of running HA first? that's good to know, thanks!

radiant sundial
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yeah depends on the kind of nas you're getting/building

quasi wedge
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fair enough - i'll probably be getting it

radiant sundial
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what kind of nas is it?

quasi wedge
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i'm not sure - i've heard of people using synology and qnap, but i haven't got one yet so am pretty easy with anything

i already have a dedicated plex server, so don't need it for that, and was going to use it purely for backing local copies of files and media to, but if it can also handle HA just fine then i won't complain

humble mirage
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Be aware that Synology no longer supports USB passthrough

quasi wedge
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sorry, this might be a silly question, but does that mean if i wanted to connect a speaker to HA through the nas synology can't do that?

humble mirage
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Is that a USB connected speaker?

quasi wedge
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sorry, long day - yeah, a USB speaker

humble mirage
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Not that there's any support in HA for those anyway...

quasi wedge
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well i was thinking of something like rhasspy?

humble mirage
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Then you couldn't use it for HA if you were to find an integration for it

quasi wedge
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fair enough

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maybe not a synology then 😛

humble mirage
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It also makes life harder for Zigbee and Z-Wave

quasi wedge
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oh yeah!

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i completely forgot about that

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i don't have any zigbee stuff at the moment but was planning to down the line

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ok, maybe qnap then

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hang on - you said "synology no longer supports usb passthrough" - did they used to and they've disabled it or something? because that would be sucky if i got a qnap and they decided to do the same thing

humble mirage
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Yes, that's exactly the case, when they rolled out DSM 7 they removed/broke USB passthrough

quasi wedge
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ouch, that sucks majorly 😕

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i can see why people build their own nas now

humble mirage
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With things like the TerraMaster you can even buy something you can run your choice of NAS software on - theirs, TrueNAS, UnRAID, something else...

civic flicker
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what are the usb sticks to use for z wave and zigbee

low notch
civic flicker
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OK

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I am not seeing all my homekit devices on HA. I have a Moen water device and Hunter ceiling fans, those did not show up - ideas?

low notch
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except you don't run in docker host mode, then you have a installation issue

civic flicker
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I am just running regular installation for now. Testing and such. Actually running as a virtual machine

wooden dagger
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Ehm, what? 'AddonManager.install' blocked from execution, no host internet connection

lapis kettle
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Hi all. I'm trying to install home assistant on my brother's RPi 4, and I downloaded and wrote haos_rpi4-64-9.5.img on the SD card. It boots up, and shows the "preparing" web page on the 8123 port, but it keeps failing:

23-04-06 15:04:11 INFO (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant with tag 2023.4.0.
23-04-06 15:09:47 ERROR (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.4.0: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2023.4.0&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi4-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")

Any ideas?

tropic tiger
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Hi, can someone push me in a direction to find what is going on.... i can acces HA by duckdns domain when i am connecten to wifi. Also when im on wifi from my friends in another town. But i cant acces it when im on 4g or 5g...

hard skiff
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Does anyone have any experience getting Home Assistant to work with self signed certs? I've successfully gotten the certs installed and can connect from 2 different desktop systems but can't for the life of me connect from my phone through either the app or browser. Note that the certificate is trusted and works to verify other services I'm hosting in Chrome, but I still get an error connecting to HA (ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED in Chrome, ERR_SSL_UNRECOGNISED_NAME_ALERT in the app. I presume the latter is untrusted CA)

humble mirage
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Did you load the CA certificate you're using as a trusted CA in the phone's certificate store?

hard skiff
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Yep, have confirmed by connecting to a different service I'm hosting using the same CA

blazing fog
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Hey guys, I’m new to home assistant. Just got it installed on an intel machine.
Now not able to get the Wi-Fi working. Can anyone guide me through?

olive vessel
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Question, i attach a new vmdk drive to my homeassistant into Vmware. i can i mount it and put my video on it

humble mirage
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No, HAOS doesn't support multiple disks like that

olive vessel
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So i need to do Move to disk with my bigger disk then ?