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humble mirage
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Now you get to do a real test - extract the backup to /home/piadmin/HomeAssistant/config and see if the container starts with your config

gaunt forge
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Ill have to put the backup on the correct location first, extracting the complete .tar file's contents into /config right?

humble mirage
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Yes

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Well, no

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Extract it to /home/piadmin/HomeAssistant/config

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If you put it in /config on the host you've not been paying attention to what we've been talking about

gaunt forge
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I meant the mentioned path indeed, not /config

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Okay, let's try if I can make that work.. Probably wont start (as it's a back up from dedicated HA, right?)

humble mirage
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HA is HA no matter how you install it

gaunt forge
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Both SSH and RaspianOS are giving me an access denied when trying to move those contents from .tar into the config folder

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Still figuring it out, already thanks for all help provided!

humble mirage
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sudo

gaunt forge
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Sudo mv did not work, however when using sudo CP and manually removing the files afterwards it seems to have worked

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Pi is rebooting, testing right away

humble mirage
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You don't need to reboot

gaunt forge
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Oh well, I did haha 🙂

humble mirage
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Reboots is for OS upgrades

gaunt forge
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Seems to not have worked, still prompting me to create a new user

humble mirage
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Then inspect the container

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docker inspect -f '{{ .Mounts }}' containerid
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Oh... you used cp

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Did you include all the hidden files and folders?

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We know ||the answer is no||

gaunt forge
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Correct indeed

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Let's try again

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How can I make sure it copy's the hidden files as well?

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sudo mv -v ~/boot/HA/* ~/home/piadmin/HomeAssistant/config wont cut it I suppose

humble mirage
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cd ~/boot/HA
sudo cp -pr .??* * /home/piadmin/HomeAssistant/config
pliant bolt
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Someone who knows how to fix this repair (unsupported system network manager issues) iam using HAOS i think

humble mirage
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Repairs -> System Information will tell you

pliant bolt
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Nothing happens when im pressing system information the only thing it says is unsupported system - network manager issues

humble mirage
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Did you try rebooting? That usually clears up that kind of issue if you're using Home Assistant OS

pliant bolt
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yes i wanted to restart it but then it says this: Failed to restart Home Assistant
The system cannot restart because the configuration is not valid: File configuration.yaml not found****

humble mirage
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Reboot != restart

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Though... I hope you've downloaded backups from that box

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Actually, I hope you have backups

pliant bolt
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i have backups downloaded

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what do you mean with reboot then?

humble mirage
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Reboot, as in to reboot the computer

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Not restart the Home Assistant container

pliant bolt
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hmm maybe but one time when i did that i could not get in to home assistant local again

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but maybe that is the last option i have

charred nacelle
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For some reason my DNS on my HAOS wont work properly, if I go into ssh and try to ping i get no reply on names, just on IP's.

charred nacelle
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any other client on the same network i have no issues pinging

placid sage
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Hi, Maybe someone can assist. I am trying to load HACS from SSH, I use the String-wget -O - https://get.hacs.xyz/ | bash - to paste into SSH Terminal and it returns the following error. "wget: can't connect to remote host: address not available. " or or "Could not resolve the host IP address" It worked about a week ago and then the add-ons just loaded endlessly. Being a new installation i have tried a new installation of HA and tried on another pc but no luck. Tried countless videos, but not getting there. Unless I get this right my HA experience sort of ends here which would be quite sad. Any help would be appreciated. I have been to the HACS discord server and they suggest I ask here.

tribal willow
placid sage
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I cannot ping get.hacs.xyz

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I can Ping it from my CMD prompt.

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That seems to suggest that it mat be the way i log into HA. I used my local Ip address being 10.0.0.22

humble mirage
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Can you ping 8.8.8.8?

tribal willow
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Do you need to be root to do this? Ie “sudo wget…”?

low notch
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no

placid sage
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Yes I can ping 8.8.8.8

low notch
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then your network does not resolve dns properly

placid sage
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Thanks, I am learning and getting to know what I am looking for. I see Meatball above is also sparring with a DNS issue. Will work on it and if I resolve it I will post.

warped hearth
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Ugh. I semi broke some things. I was using supervised intall on Ubuntu. I run other docker containers, and VM is not an option. The pinned post.. should I just be adding HA core containers to my docker-compose file?

humble mirage
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Rather than using Supervised, yes

warped hearth
humble mirage
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Scroll down

warped hearth
humble mirage
warped hearth
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Excellent 🙂 I just need to rip out the old supervised stuff, app armor, some systemd stuff i guess

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@humble mirage Will I just point docker-compose to /usr/share/hassio/homeassistant (which I will move to /docker/homeassistant on my host)

humble mirage
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Well... you point it to wherever your config folder is

warped hearth
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Well I'm coming from supervised, so I never set any of that.

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Yup looks like that's the correct folder.

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Okay, so now I need to manage all my own docker containers for addons. that's the gotcha I guess.

humble mirage
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Yeah, but it also won't randomly break on you because you overlooked some detail of the Supervised ADR

low notch
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thats a whole 5 minutes of "manage"

humble mirage
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4 minutes of which are using Google to find the official docs for the thing in question

warped hearth
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Yeah, I just need to move all the container volumes from the old supervised install to my docker location, and write up the docker compose file and find all the container locations.

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Is HA favoring a certain container registry?

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homeassistant/amd64-addon-configurator is referenced in the old json file from supervised. The docs for container reference ghcr

grand pivot
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The primary registry moved to ghcr a long time ago

humble mirage
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If in doubt, follow the official docs ... that you already linked to

warped hearth
humble scaffoldBOT
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@warped hearth When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

humble mirage
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Add-ons won't work, they don't exist

warped hearth
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So no more z-wavejs2mqtt?

humble mirage
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Sure, but not as an add-on

warped hearth
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I can't find any documentation about that.

humble mirage
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Weirdly, the world existed before add-ons

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It's right there, in the docs

grand pivot
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There's no supervised->not supervised migration guide because everyone's setup and requirements are different

warped hearth
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Understood. So I'll need to find similar documentation for each of these?

"url": "https://github.com/home-assistant/hassio-addons/tree/master/configurator",
      "url": "https://github.com/hassio-addons/addon-node-red",
      "url": "https://github.com/hassio-addons/addon-sqlite-web/tree/main/README.md",
      "url": "https://github.com/hassio-addons/addon-influxdb",
      "url": "https://github.com/hassio-addons/addon-grafana",
      "url": "https://github.com/home-assistant/hassio-addons/tree/master/mosquitto",
      "url": "https://esphome.io/",
      "url": "https://github.com/sabeechen/hassio-google-drive-backup",
      "url": "https://github.com/hassio-addons/addon-zwave-js-ui",
low notch
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you're pretty much supposed to know all of that already if you read and accepted the requirements for supervised

humble mirage
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Other than the backup one, all have external docs for running in Docker

crude inlet
warped hearth
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Alright, container is migrated and accessing it directly shows my devices. All keys ported. I think to finalize this step, I want to delete the Z-Wave integration and re-add it? https://i.imgur.com/5MzRAGO.png

low notch
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enter a new address in configure - configure new server

humble mirage
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#zwave-archived is the best place to get help with the whole Z-Wave stack though

warped hearth
warped hearth
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I feel like node-red will be the hardest part of all this. we'll see.

humble mirage
warped hearth
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Nice. mosquitto doesn't respect PUID/PGID in docker. It just uses 1883:1883.

warped hearth
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Is there any guidance on multicast for docker installations?

manic bane
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How did you configure your container networking

warped hearth
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Using bridge

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sorry, hold ujp

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I don't specify anything in docker compose, so it's the default which I believe is a bridge. I do have multiple IP's on the host.

manic bane
warped hearth
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Ok. I'll do some more reading and see how that'll affect my setup.

manic bane
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It shouldn't affect it. Just ensure other containers which have ports forwarded aren't conflicting

warped hearth
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I do have multiple IP's for the server. So I can hopefully set HA to use host mode and give it a specific host IP

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so 1.2.3.4 can be the HA host IP and all those ports have to party. Then I can have my other internal IP's with my existing configs.

manic bane
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It doesn't matter if the IP is shared though?

warped hearth
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For HA? I'd have to make sure there's no port conflicts. Otherwise linux will let me bind to the same port if it's on multiple IP's.

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Alright, I"m down to the last component to migrate, influxdb. Trying to get the data ported over.

manic bane
brittle sail
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nvm i found the options in gui and then found the ha dns options --servers command

warped hearth
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Is there any guide for install influxdb on docker? I'm finding a lot of older v1 stuff. influxdb v2 is quite different.

humble mirage
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Is there any guide for install influxdb

snow furnace
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Problem by installing homeassistant

warped hearth
# manic bane Host networking is what is required for docker

So, I got things working with bridge networking. I setup an mdns repeater (image: flungo/avahi) which has 2 networks, one in my default bridge network, and then another using macvlan which lets me assign a specific local IP. It will broadcast mDNS on my lan into/inside the docker network.

mighty mango
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what command can I input in the cli terminal to get the mac address, I dont have a network connection to my distro yet and need the physical address for psk

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nvm nmcli did it

crude inlet
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@mighty mango hmm. nmcli will do it

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But you need to enter login first to get to the os console

mighty mango
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forgot about that

crude inlet
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But good question. Not sure it appears in the custom commands

little swift
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so I tried supervisor update 2022.11.1, which doesnt work (issue raised). after that I tried to restart... wont go. Even tried the dev channel, but something blocks that too...

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nothing special in logs as far as I see

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returning to beta channel, I see a new SU 2022.11.2, and OS 9.3. but still can not restart

marsh dew
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my home assistant core installation works on Raspberry pi, is in home assistant program we can change the different dns resolver then host machine? as my pihole also working on same machine so my host machine using dns resolver (1.1.1.1). but for home asssistant program i want to use my local host (192.168.1.70:53). is it possibile?

humble mirage
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No

marsh dew
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ok, thanks

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just curiosity question, in Debian we can provide multiple dns resolver IP with leaving space in between. what is the line on action of whole mechnisum. is all querries first checked by first resolver. if it fail then it will carry forward. or both dns rsolver used randomly. is it recommended i put (192.168.1.70 1.1.1.1). is it useful like first system look from local dns resolver if fail then it will go to cloudflare.

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second option i want to explore if i will use docker compose. in docker engine can we define different dns resolver then the host machine for overall all docker apps.

humble mirage
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Depends on the fail, if the server doesn't respond it'll move to the "next" one - if it responds with a failure code it won't

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So, if you query your local DNS server for example.org and it says no such domain it stops, if you query it and it times out it moves on

marsh dew
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Thanks Tinkerer

zinc gyro
little swift
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we're stuck....

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my HA is still live, so I wont dare to do a host reboot.....

crude inlet
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After reboot yesterday I had to connect directly and start core in cli.

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And start all addons manually

little swift
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uhm... which HA version was that? mine is OS 2022.11.2, and all was fine (could restart as much as needed) until I tried the SU updater that popped up...

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all add-ons are (still) running too

zinc gyro
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Want to try what bdraco suggested but only have access to the OS cli now. That one does not allow docker command...

crude inlet
crude inlet
little swift
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thx. so for now, the main thing we should NOT do is host reboot, for it wont bring back the system/frontend? Just noticed btw that SU sees no more update available and 2022.10.2 as latest

zinc gyro
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I have the add-on but only configured for Ingress.

crude inlet
zinc gyro
dire apex
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Is it possible to delete a lib required by a custom component so that it can be reinstalled. Using haos installation on a RPi. I suspect that it is corrupt somehow.

little swift
crude inlet
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Sorry, first time I read that I saw "we can" and I nodded my head

little swift
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so is install --upgrade dbus-fast the fix to the issue? is that what we're after now?

zinc gyro
little swift
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I've just added my reply to that, it seems not so very obvious tbh.... where will this take the many HAOS users that never ssh into the host?

zinc gyro
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True, but only beta users should have been this release. They should be a bit more adventurous 😉
My HA is back up and running. My add-ons did not have autostart in the proces.

little swift
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My HA still is running....... including add-ons. Beta is not dev... so no, HAOS users running beta wont be used to this

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Did you fix the add-ons already, or is this still an issue

zinc gyro
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Yes, all good.

crude inlet
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@little swift are you connected to 22222?

little swift
crude inlet
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so ha su info

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gives you your arch

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then you follow the rest, copy paste each line individually

little swift
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huh, thats odd, I have a celeron mini-pc....

Schermafbeelding_2022-11-15_om_18.01.15.png
crude inlet
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that works

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oh you are saying it's odd that it shows AMD

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that's not odd

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@little swift any success?

little swift
violet ridge
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Or for anyone that doesn't like doing any commands here, reinstall and restore will work

little swift
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But I get what you’re saying.

violet ridge
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Yea i mean obviously I wish no one had to do any of this and expect people to pick the least cumbersome approach for them. I'm just pointing out there's options besides host ssh

dire parrot
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Looking for the Best/easiest way to move from a VM install to HA OS on a ras pie

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Can I copy root folder and paste?

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How would a backup behave?

crude inlet
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HA OS to HA OS is a matter of using the backups

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doesn't matter if VM or Pi etc

dire parrot
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Do integrations, automations everything come with?

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What about how will ZHA and the zigbee devices behave?

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I know that zigbee hubs make their own network and all.. not sure where that data is stored. Hopefully wont have to repair all my devices

placid sage
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is there a way to do the ssh debug thing without using USB remotely

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have Samba enabled. anywhere to drop the file on there instead

lyric sand
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What would be the command to update supervisor 2022.11.2 from cli in home assistant blue?

crude inlet
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the blue doesn't have a different cli. It's all the same HA

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The blue is an odroid n2+ with a case

lyric sand
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On github, only commands that can be executed when installed with docker were talked about.

crude inlet
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HA OS includes docker. The supervisor is a docker container. HA is a docker container.

lyric sand
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When the command is executed, a message like 'zsh: command not found: docker' is output.

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supervisor update --version 2022.11.2

I can't update even with this command.

crude inlet
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Are you using the "SSH and Web Terminal" add-on or the "Terminal & SSH" addon

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You have to be using the first one

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With protection mode off

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Otherwise you can connect keyboard and monitor to your Blue and do it that way

lyric sand
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I launched a terminal in the studio code server addon and entered commands.

crude inlet
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that also does not have a protection mode option, so it would be the same

lyric sand
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The addon cannot be installed at this time. It seems messed up.

crude inlet
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do you not have a usb keyboard and hdmi monitor?

placid sage
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i do but im miles away from my install lol

brazen herald
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Then you should probably wait until the distance is measured in feet rather than in miles 😉

placid sage
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well we use km's but thought id say miles as most people likely would understand it more 😂

lyric sand
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I'm out of the house right now... I don't have a way to access HA at home. I'm trying to find out if I can install the SSH addon with CLI... but I don't know how.

brazen herald
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It should probably be < 1m 😉

brazen herald
placid sage
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need longer arms 😂

brazen herald
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If it's failing, you probably have a DNS issue

placid sage
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ive just got the wrong damn terminal addon so cant run the command 😂 if only i went with ssh and web terminal

lyric sand
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People say that if I restart during the supervisor update, I can't connect to HA, so I can't reboot.. I can't even install SSH in the web UI...
Hmm.. it looks really messed up..

placid sage
lyric sand
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I'm out of the house... I go home only on Thursday. I can't access HA.. ㅠㅠ

placid sage
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if its all still running leave it till thursday

lyric sand
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ha addons install core_ssh

Is this command to install Terminal & SSH add-on?

lyric sand
tough holly
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hi, how can I update supervisor via CLI? Via de UI it does not work (it's says installing for a day now... a hard reboot of the HA Blue did not worked)

slender adder
little swift
hot falcon
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Hello I have an Argon One v2 m.2 case for my pi4 running home assistant OS. I have the always on setting enabled inside the Argon. Is this the correct setup with this case or should I put it back to default so I can restart the pi if I need to through the app?

brazen herald
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You can still restart the pi if needed. The always on is what it defaults to after power loss

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By having that function, it means your Pi will automatically come back online after any power cut or similar

hot falcon
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Awesome thanks. Well then that’s the setting I want.

copper steppe
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Yup, I have my box set to auto-start after power. Kindof needed because it also runs my firewall etc

high lance
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Does anyone know what this error means? I'm just trying to update home assistant

spare trellis
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Hi friends... I have a macbook pro 2018 that I do not use anymore. I am thinking of using it dedicated for home assistant. Can I install HA OS on it?

cinder marsh
spare trellis
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Thanks @cinder marsh

mighty mango
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can one change the ntp server on haos? I cant seem to find any recent solutions

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my uni blocks ntp servers by default

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cant seem to change the systemd timesyncd file

high halo
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Does anyone know how to fix the recent SU issue on a proxmox VM without the Terminal Addon (I can't start that addon unfortunately)? Thanks!

crude inlet
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@high halo You have a terminal for the VM

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Through proxmox

mental condor
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Is it a problem with os 9.3? My proxmox vm is restarting every hour now

trim grail
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I tried upgrading yesterday from Supervisor 2022.11.0 to 202.11.2 and it appears to hang during the upgrade... for several hours... before it gave up. Now I can't even do a backup with HA saying "Creating a backup is not possible right now because the system is in startup state." HELP!

humble mirage
wooden smelt
crude inlet
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An more officially hosted script to go with a doc as an alternative to the link right above you

magic flume
hazy cloak
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same issue like @magic flume

hazy cloak
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@magic flume not all running at the moment

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´

crude inlet
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@magic flume same link above if you are running HA OS and beta

crude inlet
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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/supervisor-november-beta-issue-impacting-users-on-home-assistant-beta-dev-channels/489895

Home Assistant Community
Supervisor November beta issue impacting users on Home Assistant be...

A small number of users on the beta or development update channels running Home Assistant OS are impacted by a significant issue that prevents the Supervisor from working properly and from updating itself to a working version. You are not impacted if you are using a stable release of Home Assistant or run Home Assistant Supervised, Home Assista...

hasty oxide
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i have access to the ha prompt directly thru keyboard+hdmi, is there a way to drop into a shell from here or do i need to faff about with the authorized_keys file to use a separate computer and ssh in?

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nvm i found it

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didn't see it pop up in the header -- perhaps because of the interrupted state? But for those also looking for that:
At the ha > prompt type login to drop to a shell that will allow you to run the fix in the Manual Update from CLI section of the forum post.

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also added that tidbit to the forum thread so it could help someone else 🙂

ashen charm
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If you can access the console via keyboard. curl -o - https://version.home-assistant.io/update-supervisor.txt | sh

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that should get you in a good state

hasty oxide
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yup

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It got me into a recoverable state. wasn't able to update supervisor from the frontend but that got me to where i could then use the HA CLI to supervisor update and reboot and then everything came up normal

crisp moon
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Back on track again. Thx for the help from here. My hair started to get grey 🙂

tribal lotus
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Hello, I just joined the discord even though I'm using Home Assistant since January.
Today I got an Echo device and wanted to finally expose my HA to the external but I'm not able to configure DuckDNS + Nginx (as I found in several guides online) because navigating in https to the alias, it makes my router navigate to a setup wizard. Could it be related to my router? I have the one provided by my ISP

humble mirage
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Try using a port other than 443

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It's not uncommon for cheap ISP routers to not support forwarding of the port used for their admin interface, so pick another one of the 65,534 other ports

icy arch
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Hey guys, I am on a Mac running VMware Fusion trying to install the VirtualBox.vdi and when I follow the steps, the file for the unzipped vdi is greyed out. Any thoughts?

tribal lotus
humble mirage
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Then... it's time to ditch that router

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Or use something like Cloudflare tunnels

tribal lotus
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Uh, that sounds like an alternative. Do you have any resource I can look into?

humble mirage
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Google for home assistant cloudflare tunnel

tribal lotus
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You're more than right.

humble mirage
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There should be a few dozen guides... I don't use it because my ISP router doesn't suck 😛

tribal lotus
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Haha, lucky you! Let's see if this works, otherwise I'm going to look for a new router out there

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Thank you, will update once I finish messing up with this

icy arch
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Could it be that I am running the regular version of Fusion and need to upgrade to the Pro version?

low notch
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afaik fusion is vmare, you need a .vmdk

copper steppe
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@spare trellis I don't know if you're still here, but the advice you got about "the only supported way would be to run HAOS as a virtual image" is incorrect. You can run HAOS perfectly OK natively on an intel mac.

icy arch
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the .vmdk worked perfectly. thanks.

tender wren
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If I move my data disk to a NVMe connected via USB, can I keep the data if I swap the same NVMe to a PCIe slot later or will HAOS not be able to detect the changed device path?

cinder marsh
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@copper steppe do you mean using generic x86-64 HAOS on a macbook pro?

copper steppe
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yeah, on an intel mac, that works fine. worked for me.

cinder marsh
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yeah ok, I'll keep that in mind.

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has anyone installed this new core 2022.11.3 update on a supervised installation?

cinder marsh
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just performed the update on a supervised installation, no issues

brisk willow
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Noice! || Now switch to HA OS or Container ||

brittle sail
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maybe he hates himself and likes pain

cinder marsh
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no pain no gain

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but also, it's been stable since I installed it a few months ago so I have no reason to switch installation type

brisk willow
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As long as you follow the requirements strictly, it's fine

cinder marsh
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not sure if it's related, but after this core update, my google assistant local fulfilment time is 365ms and it actually switched to local fulfilment instantly instead of having to wait an hour plus for it to change over from cloud

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nice

manic bane
cinder marsh
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yeah

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no drama jana 🙂

manic bane
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You're smarter than most who try supervised. You're actually following the instructions lol

cinder marsh
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it's an sbc dedicated to HA, it makes sense not to run anything else on it except HA

manic bane
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HAOS would make it even easier if you want a supervisor

brittle sail
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supervised on an sbc?!

cinder marsh
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can't run HAOS on orange pi 4 lts

copper steppe
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why, out of interest?

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Seems like it should work

cinder marsh
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lack of driver support, it matches the odroid c2 but no wifi

copper steppe
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OK. Shouldn't really run ha on wifi anyway, it's probably a bit unreliable for a server...

cinder marsh
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it's not to run ha on wifi, it's to run an iot wlan with external access toggle

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and it works a treat

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the wlan is managed by a HA add-on too

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@brittle sail it's fast, onboard emmc and a minimal debian install

unkempt spade
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Hi, all! New to the community. Trying to get HAOS running and stuck on the "Preparing" screen. Latest build, pi 4. Latest message is:

"[supervisor.resolution.fixup] Starting system autofix at state CoreState.RUNNING
22-11-16 17:37:20 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete"

It's been on that for about an hour

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Had raspbian installed on this SD card prior to flashing with HAOS

copper steppe
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any errors further up? does your box have internet?

unkempt spade
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It is connected over ethernet, and does have internet. It doesn't look like errors? This is some of what preceeded where I am stuck (grabbed from web).

22-11-16 17:37:17 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.DNS_SERVER_IPV6_ERROR/ContextType.DNS_SERVER
22-11-16 17:37:17 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.DNS_SERVER_FAILED/ContextType.DNS_SERVER
22-11-16 17:37:18 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.SECURITY/ContextType.CORE
22-11-16 17:37:18 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.IPV4_CONNECTION_PROBLEM/ContextType.SYSTEM
22-11-16 17:37:18 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.NO_CURRENT_BACKUP/ContextType.SYSTEM
22-11-16 17:37:18 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new

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So, I did notice that my network time is 1 hr later than actual local time for some reason. I corrected that, but after a reboot of the pi HAOS didn't pick up the correct time. I'm refreshing the SD card and going to try again. Not sure if any of that matters

copper steppe
#

Is this during HAOS install, or first-boot? The 1 hour may be timezone setting, or daylight saving...

haughty totem
#

Hi all! I'm very interested in exploring a docker installation of Home Assistant supervised on a Raspberry Pi. I saw a HA vlogger post a how-to on this a couple years ago and wanted to check if it is still viable, even if it's not an official install method.

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Since the container installation doesn't include many features, I thought this was a nice compromise if I wanted the Pi to serve other containerized apps, separate from HA

low notch
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who told you that the featureset is limited in container?

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its quite the opposite in my experience

humble mirage
mild timber
#

My log has suddenly started filling up with these messages, any way to track them down? Doesnt seem to relate to anything in configuration.yaml
2022-11-17 09:14:52.916 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.template] Template variable warning: 'dict object' has no attribute 'installed_version' when rendering '{{ value_json['update']['installed_version'] }}' 2022-11-17 09:14:52.918 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.template] Template variable warning: 'dict object' has no attribute 'installed_version' when rendering '{% if value_json['update']['state'] == "available" %}{{ 'newer' }}{% else %}{{ value_json['update']['installed_version'] }}{% endif %}'

lime wind
wraith shale
#

My HA seems to be broken all around the place, not sure where to look. It is HA OS v 9.3, with HA 22.11.2, Supervisor 2022.11.0. I think the last thing I did was an OS update. It does not come back, when I connect the monitor, the GRUB boots in Slot B (rescue Shell). When I manually change that to Slot A (OK=1, Try = 3), HA comes back, but it si broken. It shows this
Invalid config
The following integrations and platforms could not be set up:

recorder (Show logs)
history (Show logs)
logbook (Show logs)
energy (Show logs)
presence_simulation (Show logs)
default_config (Show logs)
Please check your config and logs.

23 minutes ago

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Recorder
The recorder could not start, check the logs

23 minutes ago

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Checking the logs. they just say that the components failed to start
I have tried to restore an older version, but it says
Could not restore backup
Restoring a backup is not possible right now because the system is in startup state.

humble mirage
#

What's wrong is that ... well, you followed a guide written by somebody who really shouldn't be writing guides

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The fix is easy - flash HAOS instead

lime wind
#

WTF... I didn't think about whether it was correct or not. with the title guide was trusting with that

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can i install with haos on this pi FHEM too?

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when i install Homeassistant under Raspberry OS, i can install easy my FHEM

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(With VNC)

humble mirage
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Not VNC, but there's no local UI

lime wind
#

And now is no way to have the supervisor version on a Pi with the org. software? At the Moment i´ve only an unsupported message from the networkmanager (but the settings in the configs are ok). I like the UI... thats not so good..

humble mirage
#

That's what HAOS is for

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Supervisor and add-ons

lime wind
#

But no way at the moment to use the supervisor version on a Raspi OS?

humble mirage
#

What?

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That's what Home Assistant OS is for

#

If you want the supervisor, use HAOS

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Simples

crude inlet
manic bane
#

Was about to type that cogneato beat me 😂

crude inlet
#

Oooh It's gonna be a good day

brisk willow
#

|| container4lyfe ||

manic bane
crude inlet
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Nothing. I was just being positive about posting a link before you did 😅

wraith shale
#

Thanks.

wraith shale
#

I am back. Thanks @crude inlet , I thought I lost it. Such a relief. I was relying on backup, never imagined the restore would not work 🙂

crude inlet
#

Restore would work with a fresh reinstall, but yeah not necessary

placid sage
#

Hi, I have a huge problem and would appreciate some help. I am desperate to get an installation of HA. I have worked at it for about a week and all goes well until I want to load HACS from a SSH terminal. I have tried what I thing is everything. I gave a dedicated laptop which I reloaded a fresh windows 10 and then loaded HA. But still the SSH terminal returns the same error when i insert the HACVS string. The error is "Connecting to get.hacs.xyz (172.67.143.44:443) Next line wget: bad address 'raw githubusercontent.com' . Is there something wrong with my SSH setup or is it on github side. I can ping 172.67.143.44:443 and amazon.com OK.

crude inlet
#

a fresh windows 10 and then loaded HA
This is a concern. How are you running HA?

placid sage
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Using virtualbox and setup as per the HA guidelines using the VDI file and the create user when HA comes up (the 20 minute screen) and log in on the IP from my router.

robust cairn
#

used host mode or bridged at net settings?

placid sage
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Bridged and selected the wifi interface.

robust cairn
#

so try host mode for testing - if the problem vanished you will try to take another configuration

placid sage
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Some background. About a week ago i managed to get SSH installed, Went throught the procedure to get HACS as an add on and it was perfect. I install Grid and a few other HACS addons and all was well. I then saw another addon and when retrieving it it just ran download endlessly. overningt. and then had to reload HA and this is where I am.

low notch
#

in vm world "bridged" is usually host mode

humble mirage
#

HACS doesn't do add-ons, FYI

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Custom components yes, add-ons, no

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Those things are quite different

placid sage
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Opps not sure of the terms but i am sure you know what i mean.

robust cairn
#

nah bridged makes another interface and bridge this to host. host use the host network direct, mstone

low notch
#

pretty sure my vm in bridged mode creates its own interface on the host

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you think in docker - where network_mode: host has this similar effect

robust cairn
low notch
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you just confirmed me

robust cairn
#

then you missreading me

low notch
#

no

robust cairn
#

however, switch the mode @placid sage if this fixes your problem

low notch
#

haos runs in host mode already

placid sage
#

Switched to host on VM and lost comms on HA.

low notch
#

lol

crude inlet
#

@placid sage what are you entering in the ssh add-on terminal

#

don't switch the vm networking to host

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You want bridged so your VM appears with its own IP on your network

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But bridging wifi involves some virtualbox magic. Sometimes it works out

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If ethernet is an option on this laptop, you should use that

placid sage
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Stopped the VM session and restarting. In network mode I can use 10.0.0.28 as indicated by the HA ready screen. In host mode it gives me the IP 192.168.56.101/24.

icy arch
#

Hey guys, I'm installing VirtualBox on a Mac Mini Server and the option to select the downloaded vdi file is greyed out. Any ideas?

crude inlet
#

did you extract it?

icy arch
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I did.

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The file I downloaded and unzipped from HA is titled haos_ova-9.3.vdi.

low notch
#

and you use that as harddisk ? not as disk drive ?

placid sage
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I logged in with the vm on Host and logged into HA with that address. 192.168.56.101/24. I get the same error and cannot ping 8.8.8.8 Looks like I maust switch back to Bridged. I am just a bit usnsure of the key and passwords relevance on the SSH terminal. maybe the issue is there.

quasi light
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Hi guys. Probably asked before but found no trace of it... When upgrading, be it core or plugins, will it always check dependencies and abort if not met or will it be possible to wreck the install by taking upgrades in wrong order?

humble mirage
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There are no plugins

quasi light
#

addons then

humble mirage
#

Well, add-ons are software outside of HA

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Or did you mean custom components?

humble scaffoldBOT
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#integrations-archived integrate Home Assistant with devices or services, or provide functionality within Home Assistant.

#add-ons-archived provide additional software or services, which an integration could possibility integrate with. Add-ons are for Home Assistant OS and Supervised only, other install methods can install software other ways.

quasi light
humble mirage
#

Then ... they're irrelevant

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They're entirely external to HA and upgrading, downgrading, or removing them won't break HA itself

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At worst some integrations will fail because the software they were talking to isn't there any more/needs an updated integration

quasi light
#

Ok, that's good to know. I am always nervous when upgrading if all deps are met... 🙂

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Thanks 🙂

coarse lagoon
#

My HA seems to be stuck while updating, the update status is 'spinning' but a few hours later still no progress. Rebooting does not solve it... Anyone know how to abort an update of core or supervisor? Both are stuck now...

icy arch
#

One thing to notice is that VIrtualBox is looking for a link to an ISO. I sthere any way to set VirtualBox to look for a VDI or am I doing something wrong?

placid sage
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Hi, I have switched back to bridged Network and logged in. Is there someone who can try and work on what we should be able to ping from the SSH terminal to test resolving the IP and addresses. After this I have to scrap the whole HA idea which will be rather sad for me.

humble mirage
icy arch
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Ok, thanks. Do you know how to change that setting?

placid sage
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Is that Virtual box 7

icy arch
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yes

placid sage
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I left that blank and the next screen asks for the VDI file. See if that works. Please let me know.

icy arch
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If I leave the ISO Image file blank, the next screen is for hardware configuration, then the screen after that is for the VIrtual HD.

placid sage
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Thats possible, did it a day or so ago.

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@humble mirage is the above discord link for my issue.

humble mirage
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Did you ... look at my post?

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Pretty clearly a reply to somebody else...

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placid sage
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Sorry, just a bit confused. But seeing you are here is there any advice on my issue.

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Desperate.

humble mirage
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No

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I don't use Windows to run stuff I care about

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I don't even know what VM platform you're using

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And I don't use HAOS

placid sage
#

Oh Dear, I am just looking for HA to do some minor stuff around the house, like solar inverter interface, dashboard, try my hand at a bit of yaml. Have Alexa, does not do the job. Have Smartthings, same.

humble mirage
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All I can say is that there's something broken, maybe with the PC, maybe with the VM platform, maybe with your DNS... no idea. Somebody who understands those things will need to help you

icy arch
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I think I got it running. Thanks for the help

placid sage
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Thanks. I have tried everything and I am convinced it is the get.hacs.xyz and or raw.githubusercontent.com. I think most of the guys have a working installation and new installations are an issue. Looks like @icy arch is doing a new installation and see if his works.

lime wind
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Hmm, its not my day today. Ive install the hassos on my pi but under addons is all grey.

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I dont understand why

crude inlet
#

youve just installed?

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or restored?

lime wind
#

With balena etcher and restore my backup (from the supervised version)

crude inlet
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if you've done a full restore, and it's done, reboot the host at Settings > system > hardware > 3 dots in the upper right corner

lime wind
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Ill test it.. thx

placid sage
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@icy arch It looks like you are doing a new install. I have a problem with loading HACS from SSH terminal. Would you mind letting me know if you can get SSH terminal loaded and then enter the string wget -O - https://get.hacs.xyz | bash - and see if it installs HACS. That is where I am stuck and if yours works we can check my configs.

lime wind
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Youre my hero.. thanks

fallen hawk
#

I'm running HA on UnRaid in a VM (HA v2022.11.2, Supervisor v2022.11.0, OS v9.3, Frontend v20221108.0 - latest). Up until recently everything's been working fine, but today I can't seem to update. I see the following errors in the logs from Supervisor: https://pastebin.com/BDYJqDpL

humble mirage
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Ah... beta release of the Supervisor

placid sage
#

I am on 2022.11.3 Where can I find a version 0222.10.2.

humble mirage
#

Are you trying to downgrade Home Assistant Core?

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(it's not going to help you with your problem though)

placid sage
#

Thanks, I have breezed through the link. I dont have a backup as this is a new install. Ideally I want to do a new install with ver 2022.10.2

humble mirage
#

It won't fix the problem

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If nothing else, HA runs in a different container to that SSH add-on, so nothing that happens in there can impact the SSH environment

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It'd be like hoping that by rebooting your phone it'll fix the PC

placid sage
#

Noted. But where do I go from here. I have two laptops on the desk with HA loaded. One will be dedicated and I am the only one in the WWW (whole wide world) who cannot get an instance of HA with HACS running. Surely HA cannot be that difficult that I must give up. I am sure that is not the HA ethos. (Apologies for the rant.)

humble mirage
#

There's something broken with your setup...
It could be DNS, and it often is
It could be the VM, and it's not uncommon - particularly if you're bridging WiFi

placid sage
#

Just a thought. I see on the HA Releases page that the updates are the first Wednesday fo the month. Don't know if that is coincidence but that is about the time my issue started. I had a full HA running with HACS and then it broke. About 2-10-2022 the first Wednesday. Hence the request for 2022.10.2

brisk willow
#

Are you using docker run or docker compose?

slim forge
#

I am planning on upgrading my RPi HA and installing it on an Optiplex 7050 Micro instead. It sounds like these are pretty popular computers for HA. Does anyone have any past experiences, thoughts, or suggestions?

ivory field
#

I'm running HASSOS in a VM on Proxmox. Which worked really well so far. Until the supervisor just decided to crash while updating the SSH&Terminal Addon.
According to the logs it encountered a "TypeError: Expected unicode, got RaucState"

violet ridge
cursive stone
#

running HA on a pi 4 and installed dnsmasq, however using nslookup returns the public ip address instead of the HA ip because it uses 8.8.8.8. I've changed my router dns server 1 to my HA ip, but nslookup still searches 8.8.8.8

anyone have any advice?

acoustic thistle
#

I think docker defaults to 8.8.8.8, if I recall correctly.

cursive stone
acoustic thistle
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There has to be a config file on the Pi that is telling it to use that address.

acoustic thistle
#

If you’re not sure, go to a console on the actual Pi (with HDMI and usb keyboard) and type ‘docker ps’

cursive stone
acoustic thistle
#

Ok. Did you flash a pre-made image from HA?

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Ie are you using haos?

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So, that link installs haos.

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Check the file /etc/default/docker

tired canopy
#

I'm so confused, I've just installed Home Assistant in my VM, and I can ping the IP fine and access IP:4357. However, IP:8123 doesn't work

acoustic thistle
#

Which VM environment?

tired canopy
#

Virtualbox

acoustic thistle
#

Make sure you set the ethernet to bridge mode.

tired canopy
#

Yeah it is

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As I said I can access the IP, just not the port

acoustic thistle
tired canopy
#

yeah

acoustic thistle
#

Hmmm.

tired canopy
#

the device has the hostname homeassistant on my router and as I said I can browse the observer fine

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"Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy "

acoustic thistle
#

I don’t use virtualbox myself, so this is above my paygrade.

crude inlet
#

@tired canopy check the HA logs

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You have a terminal for the VM. Enter ha core logs

cursive stone
crude inlet
#

Are you using the Dnsmasq addon?

#

And why?

tired canopy
crude inlet
#

How about su logs

tired canopy
#

hm, "Home Assistant has crashed!"

cursive stone
glass jewel
#

I also seem to be having issues getting HA OS (RPI 4) to update. Update didn't finish for several hours - couldn't restart home assistant or the RPI through HA dashboard, nor start SSH so I could get in and have a look. Ended up pulling the power to get it to do anything. Got it to restart once it was back online and did a couple clean restarts, but we're back to a spinning wheel on updates.

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Also trying to update HA OS gives this error:

failed to call service update/install. Error updating Home Assistant Operating System: OSManager.update' blocked from execution, system is not running - CoreState.STARTUP

crude inlet
#

@glass jewel running beta?

brazen storm
#

I think i am effected too

glass jewel
#

@crude inlet I think I am actually

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I switched to the beta channel last year when it solved my daily issue with the pi going offline

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Never switched back to stable haha

humble mirage
crude inlet
glass jewel
#

Be helpful if I scrolled up huh

#

I saw some similar issues but missed that - cheers

#

Well I'll put that on the weekend to do list, thanks for flagging

crude inlet
#

@glass jewel if you have access to the host console it's a quick fix

brazen storm
#

I shut down to try a new SD card and my latest backup, put the original SD Card back in but can't get back in

crude inlet
#

If you were running beta you would have the same issue

#

It runs until you reboot

brazen storm
#

if I connect a monitor can I see anything?

copper steppe
#

@ivory field I had same issue, similar setup. It was the supervisor update that caused it.

pallid axle
#

Hi everybody! I have a Pi bolted to the back of a monitor running Raspberry Pi OS, and I want to still be able to use that Pi as a desktop Linux machine, but have it also host a HA instance, last night I got HA running in docker, only to discover I can't install the ESPHome add-on? apparently, I need to use "supervised" HA? and that's not what's installed by default when using docker. I was just wondering if anyone has a similar use case, and whether there's a good reason to not virtualise HA, or if I'm barking up the wrong tree.

brisk willow
#

Add-ons are just pieces of software you can install standalone

pallid axle
#

ah ok, so supervisor isn't missing as the result of some compatibility issue with docker, i just need to install them manually on the command line?

brisk willow
#

Well HA Supervised and HA OS are the two installation methods that have the Supervisor which enables the add-on function which is a way to install other software using the HA UI

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HA Container which you installed doesn't have that, but you can just install other software manually like you did with HA itself

pallid axle
#

brilliant, thanks Ill have a look at the command line link you sent through

slender olive
#

I configured a VirtualBox on a new (and Improved!) machine, with the current haos_ova-9.3.vdi, and a current Full Backup (restore). It starts quick, but all my addons are greyed out. I don't see any errors when I try to start them, but they don't appear to be running. Any ideas?

copper steppe
slender olive
#

I did a ha> host reboot .. I am honestly not sure exactly what that does, but it seems to fix problems sometimes

slender olive
#

huh .. it seems like it just got better on its own. Perhaps there was background stuff still processing. Thanks!

copper steppe
#

Yay Magic 🙂

jolly plover
#

Same issue here. System is still at freeze state 😦

crude inlet
jolly plover
#

Yes. I know and I already did that.

#

I was able to update the supervisor but still have issues with backups due to freeze state error.

crude inlet
#

Were you running the beta?

jolly plover
#

yup

#

and I wall started with the supervisor update

#

Right now I was able to create a backup, but in the end got an error. However the backup file was created. I am creating a new VM to test the backup.

#

If influx and energy are ok, I'll keep it.

unreal latch
#

Hi All! I use Home Assistant OS. End i don't know how to set a environment variable.
Anyone can tell me how can i do that??
Thanks!

copper steppe
#

Why do you think you want that?

unreal latch
#

I need to set a envrironment variable with the frigate API KEY.
PLUS_API_KEY=xxxxxxxxxxx

weary gulch
#

Ok... so what is this supposed to tell me exactly? https://www.home-assistant.io/more-info/unsupported/os_agent

I'm pretty sure my OS-Agent is already installed, but the git page doesn't say how to actually start it... and I'm having an odd issue right now where debian doesn't want to recognize any of the downloaded filed from the git link in that page as debian files

unreal latch
#

By the documentation
In config/frigate.yml
Just add:

environment_vars:
PLUS_API_KEY: xxxxxxxxxxxx

But doesn't work!

copper steppe
#

Are you including frigate.yaml into config.yaml? (sorry, I have no direct experience with this at all)

unreal latch
#

Yes, other configs are OK!

copper steppe
#

is this envvar for addon, or for integration? (did you restart the right thing?)

unreal latch
faint shore
#

Good Morning, are there any problems in you 2022.11.3 installations?
After updating from 2022.11.2 to 2022.11.3 I run out of memory.
Regarding the glance overview it is the python3 service. Any Ideas?

faint shore
deep whale
#

Hi All, is there a way to disable the USB autosuspend feature in Home Assistant OS?

high wave
#

I'm trying to install for the first time - got the screen "Preparing Home Assistant" - nothing .......???

robust cairn
#

can take up to 20 minutes

high wave
# robust cairn can take up to 20 minutes

Thanks, I left it for quite some time, gave up and started again from scratch - waiting again....... it appears the virtual machine on my mac re-boots from time to time??

robust cairn
#

dunno, have no mac^^

slender panther
#

HomeAssistant OS on Pi, pressed update (on both core & supervisor) but its been stuck all day and does not want to restart from webui. Hard reset didnt do much good - time to re-image sd card and restore backup?

crude inlet
#

@slender panther what was the supervisor version?

#

And are you running beta

slender panther
#

whops, first was the core version

crude inlet
#

Then you'll need to take a look at your logs. Either connecting directly or using whatever access you have set up for yourself through add-ons

slender panther
#

Tried looking, but nothing stood out - might be looking in the wrong place?

crude inlet
#

ha core logs and ha su logs

jolly plover
#

My hassio is still not ok after the Supervisor issues. I can't create new backups (Unknown error, see supervisor logs) and the Supervisor logs are all green. Any sugestions?

#

I am already running Supervisor 2022.11.2.

crude inlet
#

@jolly plover start by rebooting the host, then check logs again

slender panther
# crude inlet `ha core logs` and `ha su logs`

Seem anything helpful was probably lost with this mornings hard reset; figured i'd try using the script in the beta link before pulling the sd card it seems to have moved everything along. Cheers!

jolly plover
thorn cloud
#

I corrected the supervisor issue, but now all my add-ons are missing. Is there a way to rebuild them without uninstalling and reinstalling each add-on?

peak dust
#

Hi - I have a Samsung Chromebook Pro that I wish to convert to a server and run home assistant on it, is this possible?

humble mirage
#

🤣

#

I mean, if you can root it and run Debian on it, you could probably run HA Container

#

Whether that's a good experience or not ...

proven crane
#

Sooo, I am having some issues with installing HA on a Pi4 with SSD

brisk willow
#

so HA container would be a container within a container within a VM NotLikeThis1000

solar summit
thorn cloud
crude inlet
#

@thorn cloud a restart of HA does not reboot the system

#

did you reboot the host?

ebon notch
#

Hello on what devices i can install home assistant?

humble mirage
#

If you want Home Assistant OS it's basically Pi, ODroid, PC, or a VM

ebon notch
#

yes but it says rasberry pi 3 or 4 and they are rare to find

humble mirage
#

If you just want Home Assistant itself, then any Linux will do

#

Sure, it says that, if you look only at the Pi page

ebon notch
#

maybe on android possable?

humble mirage
#

No...

ebon notch
#

ok android running termux?

humble mirage
#

People have done that

#

It's not a good idea

ebon notch
#

yes i know started to run it on galayx s6 yesturday no sucess

grand pivot
#

depends on whether you're the "hey look, I installed HA on this completely unsuitable platform!" kinda guys

#

"I installed Doom on my Mac's touchbar!"

ebon notch
#

im trying now to install linux unbunti to android then trying to run HA

humble mirage
#

Trying to turn your phone into a server... that's not a sane plan

#

Just run it in a VM on any computer you have

ebon notch
#

im living in europe to run computer 24/7 its now too expensive

thorn cloud
humble mirage
ebon notch
#

i have msi gt72 6qe

#

wait i have pocket pc also

humble mirage
#

If it has a CPUMark of 900 or higher than it's at as fast as a Pi4

ebon notch
#

gpd pocket

#

ok will fire it up and test it

humble mirage
#

Not too shabby at all

#

USB C network adapter and it looks like it'd be a fairly decent mini "server"

ebon notch
#

so you saying to scrap idea to run it on android?

humble mirage
#

Running it on Android isn't a good plan

#

If you're happy to troubleshoot the many problems you're going to have, and do that on your own, then go for it

ebon notch
#

i used termux to install HA but it ceaps poping errors about wheels

humble mirage
#

The kind of people who run HA on Android are also the ones who aren't bothered by the fact that they left "supported" behind in the rear view mirror and are comfortable troubleshooting things like that

#

If you're not very confident in doing that, don't use Android

lavish anvil
# ebon notch im living in europe to run computer 24/7 its now too expensive

Even with the most expensive power we have had in norway so far (peak of €1 per kwh) a 100w system would be €2.4 per day, or €72 per month, which would not be accurate as that is peak, and you can get away with a lot less than 100w, I'm currently pulling 82w average on a DL380 Gen9 with average price of €0.2 tomorrow, albeit we were at €0.001 last week, so price does flux

ebon notch
#

actually i wold be happy to run it on android, but im running out of ideas

humble mirage
#

The gpd pocket looks like a decent spec, use it

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The MSI would be a beast though ablobjoy

ebon notch
#

i have the rasberry pi b and zero models also

humble mirage
#

You may get away with a pure Core install on those, but the lack of RAM is going to be an issue

ebon notch
#

i will run only esp8266 modules

humble mirage
#

If you're only using ESPs... what is the point of Home Assistant?

ebon notch
#

to collect temperature data and easy code transfer if i need to update it

humble mirage
#

That seems overkill, but it's going to struggle to do HA and the required ESPHome software on a Zero/B

#

512 MB of RAM isn't enough

ebon notch
#

hmm but do i need to install linux on the gpd pocket?

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taking long time to run pc mark

humble mirage
#

That's the better approach, but if it runs Windows you could use VirtualBox

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Just Google the CPU in it to find the CPUMark

ebon notch
#

o i started the full tests it runs now 3d tests

humble mirage
#

I'm happy to say that Home Assistant doesn't care about the graphics card

ebon notch
#

so basickly then it needs os to run a virtual box to run linux that runs home asistant

humble mirage
#

Well, no

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If you want Home Assistant OS (for add-ons) then you can try installing HAOS directly

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If that doesn't work, and you still want add-ons, then install something like Proxmox and then install HAOS in a VM

ebon notch
#

so it will run windows and in vm it will run HA

humble mirage
#

Sure

ebon notch
#

ok it says 777.1 on cpu mark

humble mirage
#

That's a little low, somewhere between a Pi3 and a Pi4

#

I'd not try to run a VM on that

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Debian + Docker, yes

ebon notch
#

ok then termux running linux debian on samsung s6

humble mirage
#

Have fun with that

ebon notch
#

thanks , but why home assistant needs so much ram?

humble mirage
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Because it's a home automation platform, and a very powerful one, plus you need an OS, plus you want to run the ESPHome dashboard, and probably other stuff for that data

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512 MB of RAM ain't much these days

lavish anvil
#

512 MB RAM wasn't much 20 years ago

humble mirage
#

Eh... 1 MB was a big deal once

lavish anvil
#

No need to shame the 70s

hasty mason
brisk willow
#

Why do you "need" to install Supervised?

hasty mason
#

I need to setup MQTT

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for Gosund SP111 v1.1

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and I need a MQTT broker

grand pivot
#

ok, so install a container for that

brisk willow
#

Or even just the mosquitto package

hasty mason
proven crane
#

ah, running a SSD on a pi with 2A might explain the random crashes

#

now a 4Amp adapter

brisk willow
hasty mason
#

@brisk willow can you guide me?

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plz

grand pivot
#

<I always have envisioned Tediore as Princess Leia>

brisk willow
#

Just Google "{software_name} docker"

hasty mason
#

thanks

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another container, thanks

brisk willow
#

Or again, you can just use the mosquitto package. It doesn't need to be a container specifically

hasty mason
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I need to see how.

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by package means a .deb packages in linux?

brisk willow
#

Seriously, Google is your friend

#

I'm referring to the mosquitto deb package on Debian/Ubuntu, yes

hasty mason
#

thanks

pine carbon
#

hello, all. My NAS has died, trying to setup HA again, on my M1Mac. Getting the scrren localhost:8123/lovelace - home assistant not found, retry in 60 seconds.

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heyya Tediore!

chrome birch
#

I installed Ventura on my Mac tonight and my Home Assistant VM no longer boots. I observed some changes to the VM install instructions for Home Assistant. It's now recommending a Linux VM rather than Mac VM, and a wi-fi connection is no longer supported? Apologies if I'm late to the game but anyone have any info on this and recommendations (besides installing a previous version of Mac OS?). I'm on an Intel Mac if that makes any difference. Not hugely savvy here, so please be gentle. Any forums or links I should check out? Currently trying to troubleshoot online. Google is holding out on me. Search terms also welcome.

copper steppe
chrome birch
#

@copper steppe In VirtualBox as a Mac OS VM

copper steppe
#

@pine carbon if your network is bridged to LAN

copper steppe
#

🦗

cinder shoal
#

hi all. just setup a homeassistant docker container on a pibox that I reflashed with raspberry pi os. I'm getting disk I/O error's in recorder and the other stock integrations. I think i've narrowed it down to being a linux permission error, but my searching has lead me in circles
I'm getting the following error
Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/recorder/util.py", line 268, in validate_sqlite_database run_checks_on_open_db(dbpath, conn.cursor()) File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/recorder/util.py", line 279, in run_checks_on_open_db sanity_check_passed = basic_sanity_check(cursor) File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/recorder/util.py", line 257, in basic_sanity_check cursor.execute(f"SELECT * FROM {table} LIMIT 1;") # nosec # not injection sqlite3.OperationalError: disk I/O error

copper steppe
#

did you restore a previous HA install? (using built-in restore, or copying files?)

#

What is the file owner, and permissions bits, for the home-assistant-v2.db file?
How is the /config storage mounted into the docker container?

cinder shoal
#

Fresh install

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-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Nov 18 20:49 home-assistant_v2.db

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volumes: - /mnt/storage/appdata/homeassistant:/config:rw

copper steppe
#

I don't run this config, but what do the permissions look like inside the container?

cinder shoal
#

I would need to run something docker exec to figure that out right?

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That's a little outside my knowledge

copper steppe
#

docker exec -it containerid -- /bin/bash or something like that I think. Maybe without the --

cinder shoal
#

and I'd check the permissions on util.py?

copper steppe
#

Nah on the db file that it's trying to write to

cinder shoal
#

got it

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@copper steppe I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
cinder shoal
copper steppe
#

🤷

cinder shoal
#

Yeah me too. Thanks though

chrome birch
#

Oh nvm! I installed home assistant core on a virtual mac machine in virtualbox. I figured it out!

copper steppe
#

a virtual mac in virtualbox on some other os??

merry marsh
#

Just installed Home assistant as a docker container via portainer on my NUC which runs ubuntu host under proxmox. I run several other containers, and everything seems healthy. When home assistant front end came up, it fails to discover anything, but then it occurs to me that portainer probably has it sandboxed. I had another look at the container install instructions and I missed this stanza "--network=host" I am assuming that this gives the container general network access, rather than just the port I mapped through on 8123 for the front end. So going to keep digging, but can anyone confirm my suspicion and any experience out there on portainer / home assistant?

merry marsh
merry marsh
merry marsh
copper steppe
#

@merry marsh I run haos in a vm on my proxmox, rather than a container, so it can do all the addon/docker stuff itself

merry marsh
dense basalt
#

is there a way to reset all the configuration of a home assistant blue?

#

mine no longer joins the network since I haven't used it for 13 months and there is a new home assistant machine since then

#

but now it seems like there is no way to use the home assistant blue

#

tried using the console directly but I can find no way of doing a factory reset

#

do I actually need to take it apart? that's insane

copper steppe
#

What does it actually run? haos? Do you get the haos prompt?

#

why don't you just fix it's network connection?

#

@dense basalt

drifting siren
#

im having trouble nothing will update and backups have stopped being created for 5 days now if i go to try make one it says system is in startup and cant create one if i try to restore it cant nothing seems to be wrong everything on dashboard works its just the updating and backing up / restoring thats having problems

hybrid mulch
#

Hi Guys,
for some reason I can't update my HA(OS) install anymore. It shows me the Core 2022.11.3 update (running 11.2) and supervisor update. But klicking on Install just leaves to wheel spinning for many hours now. Restarting won't do as well.

I have this since 2-3 days now. I really don't know what I could do.

#

I have restarted (hard reset) my instance and try to run an update of supervisor first via ssh. But this seams to run until all eternity...

viscid sigil
hybrid mulch
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Oh shoot, quite sure that is me. I am on Supervisor 2022.11.0

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Thanks Tom. Hope I can find a way around a full reinstall. I do have the ssh plugin installed, but not yet made configuration to access via Port 22222

placid sage
#

Hello everybody.

I am trying to install Home Assistant on a Rsp Pi 4 using the Operating System given by Home assitant.

It is stuck on the "Preparing Home Assistant" screen.

After looking at the log table by clicking the blue ball on the home screen I see a bunch of 500 errors.

Any suggestions how to fix it ?

unborn narwhal
#

Hello.

I have try to install homeassistant os on a rasbarry pi 3b +. But i get a error "** homeassistant CLI not responding**"

What to do? I have try to re-install the os but it don't work.

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Please answer in a ping

hybrid mulch
#

quick feedback: I could fix the issue with the provided script without the need for a full re-install. Thanks for the hint @viscid sigil

copper steppe
#

Seems very common problem

storm skiff
#

Hi - Do most people run HA on a RaspPI or Docker?

brazen herald
#

I'd guess more docker than Pi. But HAOS can be run on more than a Pi.

storm skiff
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I want an install that has Add-ons etc

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my Docker doesnt appear too

copper steppe
#

I use haos. Think it's best for 80% of users. IMHO Only very-technical people, who have deep understanding of docker etc, should do anything else.

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HAOS either bare-metal, or virtualised, either is OK

storm skiff
#

Thanks what is best device for bare-metal?

copper steppe
#

on rpi hardware? install haos

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on bigger hardware? consider if you want to use box for other things too. if so, proxmox, if not bare metal.

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All this is just imho, other people will disagree of course 🙂

storm skiff
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Yeah thats cool, do I need to worry about SD card on rpi?

copper steppe
#

For me, they are unreliable, and will all fail sooner or later. If you are using off-box backups, and have a spare sd card, that's not too big a deal (reinstall, restore from backup).

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If you want something that will fail less often, you might need a real disk.

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Constantly writing to a DB is a bad pattern for a sd card.

storm skiff
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Cheers, might look at proxmox

copper steppe
storm skiff
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cheers, thanks for the help

copper steppe
#

np, good luck.

brisk willow
slender olive
#

I have a VirtualBox install that has started hanging on "A start job is running for Docker Application Container Engine (46min 23s / no limit)". I have tried reinstalling the virtual machine, restarting the VM, restarting the host, reinstalling vBox, and restoring from a known-good VM backup. It always hangs. I am thinking it has something to do with the host machine. Reinstalling the host machine is my next guess, unless someone knows what might cause this?

spice swift
# storm skiff Yeah thats cool, do I need to worry about SD card on rpi?

You can work around this by running Log2Ram on your Pi to help with general reduction of writes to your MicroSD, and having your database on something that isn't your main SD, like an external disk or remote system.
Ideally though, for an all in one, i would recommend configuring your RPi for USB boot, getting a m.2 sata drive and mounting it in an ArgonOne case.
Nice and neat, not as much worry about writes messing your storage medium of choice.

drowsy lava
manic bane
#

*lol

copper steppe
#

My dayjob is lots of docker and stuff like that. I don't want to do it (much) in my hobbies.

grand pivot
#

One might say that will make it incredibly easier for you

copper steppe
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Sure. But makes me lazy too. haos ftw 🙂

dense basalt
waxen token
#

How can I install HAOS on a SSD ?

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Can I write the .img file to the SSD like a SD card, and it will expand to the size of the drive ?

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Or is there an ISO for it ?

placid sage
#

Does anyone know how to get VirtualBox to show properly? It's cutting off the bottom part so I can't create the VM - It won't let mre resize it

humble mirage
#

Have you got some really odd display setting?

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Also, the bottom part of what?

placid sage
#

No, just normal on my laptop

humble scaffoldBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

placid sage
humble mirage
#

What OS? What display size?

placid sage
humble mirage
#

That looks 100% like an OS side issue

#

Coupled maybe with a display resolution that's too small for VBox

placid sage
#

let me check

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yep... sorry I was being an idiot as no other app seemd to be effected, it was 150% for some reason

upbeat wharf
# 
System is currently because setup failed to complete. There are a number of reasons this can occur, use the link to learn more and how to fix this.

Kritisch - 2.6.2022```


Running HA OS, got this error yesterday the first time. Tried rebooting the system via Hardware, but it keeps returning and says 6 months ago. What is wrong? Migrated from Supervised to OS with backup. Is that the problem?
high raven
humble mirage
#

TL/DR: Yes

high raven
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Suspected as much just wanted to be 100% sure

humble mirage
#

It also makes it likely to become Unsupported or Unhealthy and stop working

#

There's no good reason to follow that guide TBH - just use HAOS

high raven
#

I "had" to run it like this as I'm using an older host system that doesnt support UEFI and from what I learned I need a system with uefi to run HAOS

humble mirage
#

That guide is for a Pi

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A Pi will run HAOS

high raven
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I linked the Pi version, thats my bad I followed the version for x86

placid sage
#

I think my home assistant is stuck, it's been on the prepping screen (ip:8123) for a while now - is there anything I can or should do? Or just wait

high raven
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I'm on an older sandy bridge dual core

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I was not happy with my Pi setup as it was slow, unresponsive and had other various issues so I decided to move over to x86 and this is just what I had handy without purchasing additional hardware

#

Anyways thanks for your quick answer!

upbeat wharf
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Some old docker containers?

humble mirage
#

I ... wasn't responding to you @upbeat wharf

unreal rivet
#

my HA crashed and not start anymore i need help

humble mirage
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What's your install method for it? HAOS?

manic bane
#

Also if HAOS were you running the beta versions

unreal rivet
#

yes i think i was running beta version

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first of all i was stuck to update to 2022.11.3

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but now i tryed to recover from a backup

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but tha system keep saying i was in start mode

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then i tryed to rebuild core and now dont start anymore

#

also now When i Join at myha:8123 keep saying preparing home assistant

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any idea of what can i try?

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i have access to the virtual machine cli console

manic bane
unreal rivet
#

i have follow your link and tryed that

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but i think cli dont have curl

humble mirage
#

Are you using the console, or SSH?

manic bane
#

You may have to type login at the console

unreal rivet
#

the console

manic bane
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To get to the normal console not the ha> one

unreal rivet
#

thanks i got my supervisors back to 2022.10

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restarting now

#

but i think i have fucked with something more trying to rebuild my core

#

i got acess to my ha home page again

#

but i think something is yet not good, cause some add-ons is not starting with the system

humble mirage
#

You may need to reboot shrug

unreal rivet
#

like ewelink integration and google backup, and node red, i already restarted

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but im final abble to update

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finaly

#

this was a bug at beta version that was?

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my add-ons have uncheck the option to start with the system, now i think all will be good

hexed mirage
#

You might want to think about shifting to container based install, the add-ons will not be available, but they are containers anyway, run them seperately. This way probably less issues and more control

unreal rivet
#

i use the image of HA for vmware esxi

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so its a virtual machine

hexed mirage
#

In your earlier post, i believe you said you run a supervised based install

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So you are on HA OS?

scarlet sedge
#

is this an appropriate place to ask for help when a zigbee device is not pairing/joining properly? I'm a noob, so it's my first try and my first sensor.

humble mirage
unreal rivet
#

its ha os i think

hexed mirage
humble mirage
scarlet sedge
#

gotcha 🙂

unreal rivet
#

i think some of my images have been lost at this process

manic bane
unreal rivet
#

ok thanks @manic bane

#

realy thanks for all helps you guys gived to me, i will restart and check if now its all normaly

sacred light
#

Hey, I'd like to store my whole configuration into a public github repository (besides sensible data of cause). I'm having trouble to find the addon configurations and something like a list of addons I'd like to be installed. Can someone give me a hint where this configs are? Cheers

slender tartan
#

Hello all! I can no longer access the my HA web portal. It gives me,"not found" when I go to the page I normally go to. I was having a problem where it appears that my HA couldn't get out of the STARTUP state. I couldn't reload a backup because the system wasn't out of the startup state. I think its related to being in the Beta channel. But I turned that off and continued to have a problem. Using the CLI I cant restart the supervisor, which I think is whats keeping me from getting to the web portal. Right now I just need to get my web portal back so I can download the backups and try to reinstall. I am running Proxmox, with both HA and Lubuntu. HASSOS 9.2, supervisor 2022.11.0

humble mirage
#

If you were on the beta channel for the Supervisor, did you follow the pinned message to correct this?

slender tartan
#

@humble mirage I just looked at the pinned message and did not see anything about this. Is it in the breaking changes section? I must be missing something. I spent 5+ hours yesterday trying to fix this and just made it worse.

humble mirage
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There's only two pinned messages

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One is an image, so ... the one you want is the other one

slender tartan
#

@humble mirage you meant the pinned message for THIS # I was looking at the pinned messages for #beta

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@slender tartan Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.
When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

humble mirage
slender tartan
#

sorry

humble mirage
#

First time I directed you to the pinned messages I actually said to look at the ones in the #installation-archived channel

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More reading, less assuming

slender tartan
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Always the case.

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thank you! I at least have my web portal back.

sharp badger
#

Hi, I've been stuck on 'Preparing Home Assistant' for a few hours now. I tried googling and enabled ipv6 on my router but no luck. I started over from scratch but still stuck on that same issue for about another hour now.
Observer says
Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy.

Any ideas?

sharp badger
humble mirage
#

Click the blue circle in the UI and share the logs

sharp badger
humble mirage
#

How are you running it? In a VM, on a Pi, something else?

sharp badger
#

Vm

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Bridged connection

raven prism
#

When I try to flash ha on my micro sd it says flash failed

humble mirage
#

Is the SD card good?

#

Flash failed usually points to a problem there

raven prism
humble mirage
#

You don't

raven prism
#

I had stuff on it and I formated it to fat

humble mirage
#

Doesn't matter, when you flash it you erase it

placid sage
#

does not matter

humble mirage
#

What tool are you using to flash it with?

placid sage
#

you copy it incl. the filesystem

humble mirage
#

Also, old cards are more likely to die on you sooner

placid sage
#

there is an official raspberry Flashtool with a GUI

#

or Balena Etcher both work fine

#

or if you know how to use a linux, just use dd

raven prism
placid sage
#

it’s opensource and depending on your image you can even preset wifi credentials, login credentials and enable ssh

#

which is nice though not needed for HA

soft zephyr
#

hi everyone, today i find one problem with my Home Assistant installation on raspberry. every 1 hour i lost the wireless device (in the terminal with nmcli device command i see wlan0 disconnected, and i need to reconnect). i have created a cronjob every 1 min that ping my gateway and if it's not working it run a script that reconnect the wlan0 device. it worked for 1 day after the /etc/periodic was cleaned with default configuration and same the crontab -l. Any idea how to fix this problem? or how to create a cronjob without lose the configuration every tot time? thanks in advance 🙂

storm sluice
#

maybe just dont use wifi in the first place?

soft zephyr
#

i have eth for 1 network and wifi for the other one.. i can't

#

anyway there is no reason because the wifi it's disconnecting after few hours...

storm sluice
#

its known to be unreliable on raspberry pis

north spoke
#

Hello everyone. I am needing some installation assistance. I have HA 11.3 running on a raspberry pi 4. I am working on migrating it to Debian 11.5 bullseye. I have installed debian and HA supervisor on the computer. When I go to upload the snapshot, I get a 400 error immediately. I have saved the snapshot to my device that the HA is also running on. I cannot find any specific topics regarding this and cannot find anything to answer this question. This a fresh install of HA so nothing is loaded on it. I need it to match the other one that is running at another location. I am wanting to set this one up at my house and test it so that way when I take it to the other location, it will just plug in and resume it's job. Any ideas?

humble mirage
#

Why not just use Home Assistant OS?

north spoke
#

I could do that. Is there a link for that? This computer in question will set up and running home assistant its entire life and do nothing else.

humble mirage
#

Easily found from the link in the channel topic too 😛

north spoke
#

Thank you very much Tinkerer!

random agate
#

I cant connect the Hass today, restarted the server and one of the internet logs failed! URLSessionTask failed with error: An SSL error has occurred and a secure connection to the server cannot be made.
Error Code:
Alamofire.AFError 13
Sometimes i can get it to load to the login screen but glitches back after I have entered my details, and goes back to add a server then it comes up with the error above. this is on the ios app but the link does not load anywhere else

humble mirage
#

I cant connect the Hass today restarted

dusty spire
#

Since past many days my updates are not getting installed. I have tried to reboot / repair core but it gets exited with error. my addons like esphome now wont start.

3 updates
Home Assistant Core
Home Assistant Core 2022.11.3
Home Assistant Operating System
Home Assistant Operating System 9.3 (Skipped)
Home Assistant Supervisor
Home Assistant Supervisor 2022.11.2

humble mirage
#

You're running the broken beta release of the Supervisor

#
  1. You should only sign up to beta releases if you know what you're doing
  2. Check the top pinned message
glad rose
#

I am new to HA (after 10y domoticz) and try to install integration DSMR slimme meter as first bonding
i think it fits here or must i ask in energy?
I try to install HA 32bit image on a Pi3B V1.2, i follow the step on HA-site
The "DSMR Slimme meter" fails with an unkown error
The USB -FT232R -P1 cable is recognize or discovered as Bluetooth device by Home assistant on a hardware usb port
If i try manual, only path that looks to work is /dev/ttyAMA0 gives failed to communicate.
1st how do i check the correct path naming for manual and prevent HA to see device as Bluetooth?
Edit: energymeter is a Sagemcom T211 (Dutch)

humble mirage
sacred light
#

Hi Tinkerer, do you know if there is a way to automatically install addons via config? I mean in a declarative way, so that you don't have to use the UI or the CLI (ha addons install $foo).

humble mirage
#

No idea, I don't use them

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If you can use the ha command though, I'd guess you could write an automation that handles that shrug

dense basalt
#

is there any REASONABLE way to reset a Home Assistant Blue??> ie without taking it apart? Just from the GUI or console?

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by reset I mean settings.. back to factory default

dusty spire
cinder marsh
#

@dusty spire try Settings --> System --> Updates --> 3 dots top right

#

I'm not sure if it will let you unjoin the beta channel, but that's how you join it (I'm not running beta)

#

If that's not it, you can enter this command via SSH: ha supervisor options --channel=stable

dusty spire
cinder marsh
#

No worries 🙂

viral niche
#

I have a really weird issue

#

HA is running outside of its designated docker container

robust cairn
#

did you call the police? (scnr, just ignore me)

viral niche
# 
$ docker ps
CONTAINER ID   IMAGE                       COMMAND                  CREATED      STATUS                          PORTS     NAMES
5a1870d56aef   koenkk/zigbee2mqtt:latest   "docker-entrypoint.s…"   3 days ago   Up 3 days                                 zigbee2mqtt
8ed1179c225c   eclipse-mosquitto:2.0       "/docker-entrypoint.…"   3 days ago   Restarting (1) 33 seconds ago             zigbee2mqtt_mqtt_1
florian@wuerfel:~/homeassistant-docker$ ps aux  | grep home
root      367071  0.0  0.0    212    64 ?        S    15:03   0:00 s6-supervise home-assistant
root      367072 17.1  6.5 582004 256620 ?       Ssl  15:03   1:04 python3 -m homeassistant --config /config
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if I try to start my container again, it of course fails to bind to 0.0.0.0:8123

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I was wondering why my config changes did not have any effect

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if I kill the processes seen here, it will just restart

low notch
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why did you install supervised?

viral niche
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I didn't

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I think?

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I justr used docker-compose up

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how do I stop it

humble mirage
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Check docker ps -a

viral niche
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CONTAINER ID   IMAGE                                          COMMAND                  CREATED          STATUS                          PORTS     NAMES
8886f0e05cd4   ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable   "/init"                  36 minutes ago   Exited (0) 35 minutes ago                 homeassistant
5a1870d56aef   koenkk/zigbee2mqtt:latest                      "docker-entrypoint.s…"   3 days ago       Up 11 seconds                             zigbee2mqtt
8ed1179c225c   eclipse-mosquitto:2.0                          "/docker-entrypoint.…"   3 days ago       Restarting (1) 39 seconds ago             zigbee2mqtt_mqtt_1
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   1433 root       20   0   212    68    48 S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 │  │  ├─ s6-supervise s6-linux-init-shutdownd
   1435 root       20   0   200     4     0 S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 │  │  │  └─ /package/admin/s6-linux-init/command/s6-linux-init-shutdownd -c /run/s6/basedir -g 3000 -C -B
   1448 root       20   0   212    64    48 S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 │  │  ├─ s6-supervise s6rc-fdholder
   1449 root       20   0   212    60    48 S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 │  │  ├─ s6-supervise s6rc-oneshot-runner
   1465 root       20   0   188     4     0 S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 │  │  │  └─ /package/admin/s6/command/s6-ipcserverd -1 -- /package/admin/s6/command/s6-ipcserver-access -v0 -E -l0 -i data/rules -- /package/admin/s6/command/s6-sudod -t 30000 -- /package/admin/s6-rc/command/s6-rc-oneshot-run -l ../.. --
   1504 root       20   0   212    64    48 S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 │  │  └─ s6-supervise home-assistant
   5724 root       20   0  579M  256M 57696 S  1.3  6.7  0:50.63 │  │     └─ python3 -m homeassistant --config /config
   5729 root       20   0  579M  256M 57696 S  0.0  6.7  0:00.00 │  │        ├─ python3 -m homeassistant --config /config
   5730 root       20   0  579M  256M 57696 S  0.0  6.7  0:00.00 │  │        ├─ python3 -m homeassistant --config /config
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htop shows it running under some s6 thing

humble mirage
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That'd be a Docker image,s6-supervise is used in many Docker containers

viral niche
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why is it running... without running?

humble mirage
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Try with sudo, see if it shows more, somehow

viral niche
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it doesn't

steep forge
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Hello Guys i put the io on the sd and after that in the pi and i want to go in the browser the ip adress with port 8123 and the other options and i dont come on the site where i can see the interface

grim pecan
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I cannot install HassOS at all. On VirtualBox, Hyper-V, WSL. I cannot get past the Preparing Home Assistant page.
https://justpaste.it/c7oit - Here are my logs.

steep forge
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where i need to copy that ?

humble mirage
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Copy what?

steep forge
grim pecan
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that is an issue i am having tom, sorry man. it is not relevant to your issue and you do not need any action :)

humble mirage
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Did you flash the Home Assistant OS image? Do you have a keyboard and monitor you can connect?

ornate needle
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hi 🙂 ive had home assistant a while and decided to restart everything freshwith haos, ive installed it by writing it (dd) to disk, it boots, i do initial setup...internet works, i start loading integrations and addons...then net drops, i cant ping 8.8.8.8 or the gateway(10.0.5.1) but i can ping the host (10.0.5.11) i do have the wireguard client installed, but it cant ping the endpoint(anywhere on internet) ....any way to check the route? same thing happened last night so i reinstalled from scratch....now its the same again 😦

steep forge
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Sorry it’s all clear now I have used the wrong voltage adapter

grim pecan
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Can't Install HassOS via Images on VM, Hyper-V or WSL

regal stump
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guys, anyone got issues with device and services? after update it does not load it at all, but all integration seems working. what type of logs i need to chaise?

brisk willow
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Try clearing your browser cache

regal stump
fading aurora
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Hi everyone. I’m look for some support. I recently changed my networking equipment. I went from using a mesh network setup to a single much more powerful router. Since doing this my Home Assistant on a pi4 (hardwired) is losing internet connection every few days. To resolve the issue I disconnected the pi from my switch and reconnect it and issue is resolved. I’ve changed the switch and the Ethernet cable and issue is still persistent. Fully updated HASSio. Not sure if this is an issue with my pi or the new router disabling bandwidth to the pi itself. Any insist would be great. Also, what makes me believe it is the pi or HASSio is because no other equipment on my network behaves like this.

crude inlet
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@fading aurora have you tried setting static ip and dns within HA?

copper steppe
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Is it physically losing connection, or having a dhcp problem? Is the machine maybe statically configured, and address is in the dhcp pool, so getting collisions?

fading aurora
crude inlet
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Is that the IP address which shows on the network page in HA?

copper steppe
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Is the IP address within the range used by the LAN DHCP server? (it should not be)

manic bane
copper steppe
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depends on your router, mine uses a separate range for static (obviously within the LAN CIDR)

placid sage
manic bane
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Okay so a lot of the time with consumer routers then

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I've yet to see a consumer router allow it

placid sage
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Have not used consumer hardware for years 😅 Vyos, EdgeOs or OPNsense ftw!

manic bane
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That's you, most people will be using consumer hardware

placid sage
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i have a draytek that is basically comsumer hardware they allow it too

copper steppe
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My neargear Orbi, when I used it for dhcp, only demanded that you put it in the LAN CIDR, not within the DHCP range (I don't think it checked that). Anyway, was just an idea why it might hahppen.

placid sage
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and i think the avm fritz stuff too, might only be popular in germany though

copper steppe
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pfsense says

If an IPv4 address is entered, the address must be outside of the pool.
If no IPv4 address is given, one will be dynamically allocated from the pool.
So I guess that kindof does it both ways 🙂

placid sage
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yep thats kind a different

manic bane
placid sage
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in EdgeOS it just has to be in the same subnet

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you can even just say „make this dhcp lease static“ in edge os

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which is kind of nice

copper steppe
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it's definitely about patterns, and your dhcpd implementation, more than a strict technical requirement. Which are, as they say, pretty variable...

placid sage
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i have a whole subnet for stuff I add to my DNS anyways so i just plug it in, look at the leases tab to get the IP that was leased to it and then i click „make static“

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add the IP to the DNS, give it a name and done

placid sage
fading aurora
manic bane
fading aurora
crude inlet
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@fading aurora this was more about dns than ip address. Especially if it is dropping internet and not local network connection

copper steppe
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yeah, could be, what's your resolver?

candid loom
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Guys im trying to reinstall home assistant but it starts observer and network manager but I don't get anything on the webpage, supervisor isn't starting and I can't reach internet on it because of network manager but I can ssh into it

manic bane
candid loom
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Home assistant website

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And now because I set it back to drfault on debian server it can't reach what its pinging on install

low notch
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you have picked the hardest way to run ha

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go with homeassistant os

humble mirage
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You should only use Supervised if you're already an expert with Linux, Docker, and networking, and even then only if you don't have enough frustration in your life

candid loom
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Well its my only option

humble mirage
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Why?

candid loom
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Core sucks cuz it has no addons, i cant install os im using a pc box with 2nd gen cpu

humble mirage
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Is your hardware too old to run HAOS?

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Well, then you need to learn a lot of Linux and Docker

candid loom
candid loom
humble mirage
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Those are integrations, not add-ons, they work the same in all methods

humble mirage
candid loom
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I need unifi too

humble mirage
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Well, if you're running that as not an add-on then you're breaking the requirements

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Or, run Container, and run it in another container, and be happy

candid loom
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I'm using debian 11.2

humble mirage
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And the rest of it?

candid loom
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Its only that

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The rest is installed from instructions

humble mirage
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Which instructions? The ADR, or something else?

candid loom
manic bane
candid loom
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Home assistant makes it easier to spin them up like wireguard

humble mirage
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It takes a handful of lines in a compose file

solemn sierra
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i can now use my home assistant app on my smartphone, but... only when i have my laptop on, when i shutdown my laptop i cant use home assistant app anymore, is there another way?

humble mirage
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By any chance is Home Assistant running on that laptop?

solemn sierra
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yes

humble mirage
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The app connects to your Home Assistant server, if you stop it from running there's nothing for the app to connect to

solemn sierra
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ok

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so there is no other way to get just the HA app runing alone

humble mirage
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Well, the app itself isn't Home Assistant

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It's like having Plex/Emby/whatever server running and wondering why you can't use your Plex/Emby/whatever client play movies from it when you turn the server off

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If you want HA to run when your laptop is off the answer is to run HA somewhere else