#installation-archived | Home Assistant | Page 3

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:06 PM

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no, and server not found

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:07 PM

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sounds to me like some wider network issue

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or anti virus

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do you have an av installed? or just use defender?

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:08 PM

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I have Norton installed

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:08 PM

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shudder try turning it off and then running the curl command again

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:10 PM

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tried with it all turned off..connection has timed out

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:11 PM

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are you able to ping the server ip?

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:12 PM

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been a while since having to do. can you remind me how

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 3:12 PM

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ping 192.168.0.42

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:12 PM

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in command prompt "ping serverip"

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:13 PM

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request timed out

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:14 PM

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your local pc is on the same ip range as the server? the first 3 sets of digits match? aka both are 192.168.0

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:16 PM

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for some reason my IP is 172... on HA, but computer is 192..

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:17 PM

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how is your pc connected to the network and how is the server connected to the network?

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 3:17 PM

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HAOS has a bunch of other IP addresses, including in the 172. range - for Docker

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:17 PM

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PC is wireless, server on a different computer, network cable

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:19 PM

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so it looks like one of two things, the 172 is the internal ip of the server and not the actual network server ip

or

your pc is connected to a different network on the router such as a guest network while the lan is on the main network

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:20 PM

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I feel good to say its the first one.

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:20 PM

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if you can access the server terminal you should be able to find the right ip by running the command ifconfig

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or the router admin should be able to show the right ip

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:23 PM

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ipconfig came up with a bunch, but how do I get the one in HA to match it

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:24 PM

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so of the bunch that came up there should be one that starts with 192

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 3:24 PM

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The IP should show in the HAOS console

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:24 PM

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just grab that one and curl it from the pc

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:25 PM

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the IP shows in the HAOS console, but its different from what is show in ipconfig

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 3:25 PM

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Local IPs aren't secret, you can share them with us and it'll help us help you

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:26 PM

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the console one is 172.16.0.64/24

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 3:26 PM

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Ok, that's a local network IP, from your router

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When you said wireless earlier - are you using the WiFi built into the router that's connecting you to your ISP?

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:28 PM

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modem and router separate, modem is Comcast, router is Orbi

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 3:28 PM

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Now we're getting closer to the problem...

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Which is the HA server connected to?

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:29 PM

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a switch from the router

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:29 PM

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and your pc?

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 3:29 PM

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Which router?

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The ISP router, or the Orbi router?

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(Because 99.999% of ISP "modems" are routers)

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:30 PM

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its connected wireless to the modem of the ISP.

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:30 PM

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there we are 2 different networks

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 3:30 PM

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Your problem can be easily resolved by not running two separate networks

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:31 PM

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you should be able to put the ISP router in "modem mode" so it functions as only a modem then connect your pc to the orbi

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 3:32 PM

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Or just connect everything to the Orbi

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But yes, making it the actual router would be better

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:32 PM

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alright. so I will figure that out and that should solve it

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:32 PM

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yep

grave monolith Oct 16, 2022, 3:33 PM

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Thank you all so much! sorry to make it difficult

flat wyvern Oct 16, 2022, 3:33 PM

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No problem

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 4:35 PM

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Hey guys, im followng this guide https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi/#install-home-assistant-container how can i check if i have libseccomp ?

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 4:36 PM

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With apt or your package manager tool of choice

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apt info libseccomp for instance

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Of course, you could just install it, and be sure you have it

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 4:39 PM

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humble mirage With `apt` or your package manager tool of choice

apt info libseccomp
N: Unable to locate package libseccomp
N: Unable to locate package libseccomp
E: No packages found

I guess i dont have it right? How to install it?

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 4:39 PM

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If you have to ask, you really shouldn't be using this install method

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I'd strongly recommend you switch to Home Assistant OS instead

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 4:41 PM

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The thing is that I only have 1 RP and I'm running few containers on it for plex and etc, and I would like to try hassio (on a container, so i can keep all my other services)

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 4:41 PM

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Hassio is the (very very) old name for Home Assistant OS - with the install you're attempting you get no add-ons

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 4:42 PM

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Well, last time I installed it, it was Hassio (long time ago 😅 )
so i don't know what to do :/

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 4:42 PM

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From

apt search libseccomp
``` I'm guessing you may need `libseccomp2`

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 4:44 PM

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Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
golang-github-seccomp-containers-golang-dev/stable 0.3.2-1 all
  libseccomp mappings in Golang

golang-github-seccomp-libseccomp-golang-dev/stable 0.9.1-2 all
  golang bindings for libseccomp

librust-seccomp-sys-dev/stable 0.1.3-1 arm64
  Low-level bindings to libseccomp - Rust source code

libseccomp-dev/stable 2.5.1-1+deb11u1 arm64
  high level interface to Linux seccomp filter (development files)

libseccomp2/stable,now 2.5.1-1+deb11u1 arm64 [installed,automatic]
  high level interface to Linux seccomp filter

apt get libseccomp2?

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 4:44 PM

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install - not get

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 4:45 PM

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Thanks 🙂

humble mirage Oct 16, 2022, 4:45 PM

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You "may" want to learn how to use Linux

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And by that I mean... you're long overdue learning it

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 4:46 PM

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step by step i think I will learn it (and i hope)
apparently when i installed docker i had that lib

Reading state information... Done
libseccomp2 is already the newest version (2.5.1-1+deb11u1).
libseccomp2 set to manually installed.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 35 not upgraded.

remote spruce Oct 16, 2022, 6:31 PM

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Help! I am attempting to install HAOS on a raspberry pi 3b.
32bit or 64 bit launch, show healthy for a bit then, unhealthy cannot even load supervisor page to activate.

grand pivot Oct 16, 2022, 6:46 PM

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Sounds like a bad/inadequate power supply or bad SD card

remote spruce Oct 16, 2022, 6:47 PM

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Thanks I will try try some others.

grand pivot Oct 16, 2022, 6:50 PM

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what are you using now? a cell phone charger?

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 6:51 PM

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well i got a similar issues ...

Failed to install add-on
'AddonManager.install' blocked from execution, system is not healthy

how can I check the problem?

brisk willow Oct 16, 2022, 6:58 PM

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meager heron Hey guys, im followng this guide https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/rasp...

So you weren't following this guide then?

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 6:59 PM

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had to dodge to add hacs (addons)

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but still on container 👍

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tbh i think i will buy a mini PC for this, since RP its super expensive ATM ...

grand pivot Oct 16, 2022, 7:00 PM

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hacs (addons)
🤔

brisk willow Oct 16, 2022, 7:01 PM

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HACS doesn't have add-ons

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Also, what do you mean "had to dodge"

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 7:01 PM

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i read that i need hacs to use sonoff, to get hacs i need ssh to get ssh need addons, no? 😮

brisk willow Oct 16, 2022, 7:01 PM

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No...

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 7:01 PM

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kill me ...

brisk willow Oct 16, 2022, 7:02 PM

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The error you posted above suggests that you didn't install HA Container

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 7:02 PM

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homeassistant running

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its on my portainer

brisk willow Oct 16, 2022, 7:05 PM

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Go to settings > system > repairs > three dots in upper right > system information

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What is next to Installation Type?

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 7:07 PM

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5min I think i destroyed the img...

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Installation Type Home Assistant Supervised
https://github.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer

brisk willow Oct 16, 2022, 7:13 PM

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Then either get rid of Portainer or switch to HA Container

meager heron Oct 16, 2022, 7:13 PM

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i will go to HA container, thanks 👍

remote spruce Oct 16, 2022, 7:43 PM

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I am using the one that came with the canna kit and the pi. Now I am trying another 2.1A supply and have a brand new 32bit flash of haos on brand new class 10 64G card. No bueno.

remote spruce Oct 16, 2022, 8:32 PM

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☹️ no bueno. New card new flash of HAOS, several power supplies. sets up local pages starts out ok in observer then go to unhealthy. Never get past wait for supervisor screen.

idle lily Oct 17, 2022, 1:35 AM

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Maybe try just doing a HA Container install?

manic bane Oct 17, 2022, 2:18 AM

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remote spruce ☹️ no bueno. New card new flash of HAOS, several power supplies. sets up local p...

Is there anything plugged into the pi?

modern basalt Oct 17, 2022, 2:35 AM

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When doing generic X86 installation, is the image flashed to the device the full bootable OS? Or an installer? Wanting to nuke what's on an existing system and replace with HA.

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Booting off the image gets to the [ OK ] Finished Retrigger udev rules after use rules mounted before seemingly stalling.

woven terrace Oct 17, 2022, 3:41 AM

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lol, the RasPi I have is too old
https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/75142
My luck that getting a new one isn't easy any more

manic bane Oct 17, 2022, 4:08 AM

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woven terrace lol, the RasPi I have is too old https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/7...

Time to look at something a little more powerful then. Like a nuc, an old desktop, or an old laptop

woven terrace Oct 17, 2022, 4:09 AM

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Yeah. I need to shuffle some hardware around and get a router so I can do things right

manic bane Oct 17, 2022, 4:10 AM

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You don't already have a router? How do you use internet

brisk willow Oct 17, 2022, 4:16 AM

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Directly plugged into the modem. Who needs more than one LAN IP address or a firewall anyway?

copper steppe Oct 17, 2022, 5:55 AM

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hahahah

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@woven terrace you can run it on a VM to test. Mine runs quite happily on virtualbox on a mac

remote spruce Oct 17, 2022, 6:57 AM

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No. Just a power supply network cable and hdmi.

acoustic thistle Oct 17, 2022, 8:27 AM

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Hello,
Any reason why a fresh install of HAOS wouldn’t boot on an odroid xu4?

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I posted the boot log from the serial console in the forums:

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/boot-loop-on-odroid-xu4-after-clean-install/476257

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The forums have reports from other people with similar issues on the same device, but running older versions of HAOS.

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None of them seem to have a reply…

low notch Oct 17, 2022, 8:38 AM

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is the switch set correctly on the device? sd/emmc

acoustic thistle Oct 17, 2022, 8:38 AM

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Yup. Boots other os’ without issues.

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Check the forum post I linked. Boot process starts, but bootloops.

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I posted the serial console logs there.

low notch Oct 17, 2022, 8:41 AM

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serial says something with armbian

acoustic thistle Oct 17, 2022, 8:41 AM

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Really?

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I had armbian on there prior to haos.

low notch Oct 17, 2022, 8:42 AM

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first line

acoustic thistle Oct 17, 2022, 8:43 AM

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Yes , I see it. I suspect haos used that for their own use.
File system was wiped prior to writing haos.

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HAOS is likely a stripped-down version of Armbian.

low notch Oct 17, 2022, 8:45 AM

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ok

acoustic thistle Oct 17, 2022, 8:45 AM

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Armbian is a port of Debian for ARM devices.

low notch Oct 17, 2022, 8:47 AM

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haos has pretty much nothing in common with either armbian or debian

acoustic thistle Oct 17, 2022, 8:47 AM

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Hmm. I’m not sure then.

glass gulch Oct 17, 2022, 9:00 AM

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Hey All,

I am trying to install spotcast but now I am getting an error when i try to restart

" [140146858820272] The system cannot restart because the configuration is not valid: Integration error: type - Integration 'type' not found. Integration error: data - Integration 'data' not found. Integration error: entity - Integration 'entity' not found."

I removed spotcast from HACS and removed it from my config but still getting the error. Help!

acoustic thistle Oct 17, 2022, 9:38 AM

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Update: I wrote the same image to a MicroSD card that was the same size as my eMMC card, and it boots perfectly. The trouble is, I’d much rather use the eMMC card…

bronze yacht Oct 17, 2022, 10:14 AM

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Hello Dears,
I just booted from MicroSD on my Pi3
on the termonal I cann see the HOST
but trying to do the onboarding by entering the IP and port getting no connection

dont know what todo

bronze yacht Oct 17, 2022, 10:43 AM

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if I check the observer:
Supervisor: Connected
supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy

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Just flashed Micro SD again
now I can see the Preparing Home Assistant
(this can take up to 20 Minutes)

I will wait again 20 Minutes and give feedback

bronze yacht Oct 17, 2022, 11:22 AM

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now its up and running
sorry 🙂

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after entering my username and passwort
I loose the connection to the web interface
I am still able to ping the Pi

brazen herald Oct 17, 2022, 11:50 AM

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Do you have a monitor connected to the Pi? If so, you should be able to see something on the screen telling you what it's doing

bronze yacht Oct 17, 2022, 1:16 PM

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since more then 1 hour its telling me Preparing Home Assistant
no monitor connected tto Pi
should I reboot with monitor ?

humble mirage Oct 17, 2022, 1:30 PM

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Click the blue circle

bronze yacht Oct 17, 2022, 1:44 PM

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22-10-17 15:40:22 INFO (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant with tag 2022.10.4.
22-10-17 15:42:49 ERROR (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.10.4: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.10.4/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.10.4: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.10.4")
22-10-17 15:42:49 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec
22-10-17 15:43:19 INFO (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.10.4
22-10-17 15:43:19 INFO (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant with tag 2022.10.4.

humble mirage Oct 17, 2022, 1:45 PM

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What size of SD card?

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404 often means it ran out of disk space

bronze yacht Oct 17, 2022, 1:46 PM

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64GB

humble mirage Oct 17, 2022, 1:46 PM

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Then it shouldn't be space

grave monolith Oct 17, 2022, 2:59 PM

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not sure if this is the right section, but here goes - how do I make my dashboard visible on my tablet so I can see the progress, or lack there of, of how it will look?

humble mirage Oct 17, 2022, 2:59 PM

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#frontend-archived can help with the UI

grand pivot Oct 17, 2022, 3:00 PM

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It's just a web page

bronze yacht Oct 17, 2022, 3:13 PM

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s6-linux-init: fatal: unable to exec /package/admin/s6/command/s6-svscan: Exec format error
s6-linux-init (child): warning: s6-svscan failed to send a notification byte!

placid sage Oct 17, 2022, 5:16 PM

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My rpi4 with home assistant keeps loosing connection. How can I debug that?

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The install is 2y/o and started doing that only recently

crude inlet Oct 17, 2022, 5:31 PM

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Check logs? The home-assistant.log.1 file in your main config directory is the log from the previous run

crude sage Oct 17, 2022, 5:32 PM

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Hi everyone! I'm trying to recover from a catastrophic failure that happened when I tried upgrading the supervisor last week and I noticed that some files seem truncated. I think the system might have run out of disk space at some point and things started going south from there. All I have are partial backups, unfortunately, as I was under the impression that installing updates automatically did it... oups. So I downloaded the latest home assistant VDI (virtual box) image, and started cherry-picking data to copy from the old VDI to the new new VDI's hassos-data partition. so far so good... except for a couple of zigbee2mqtt files under supervisor/share/

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is that directory ever backed up by the system during updates? if so, where would I find that?

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any help would be appreciated. I promise I'll do my own backups in the future

crude inlet Oct 17, 2022, 5:55 PM

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/share is backed up during full backups

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All the "update" backups are backing up the particular container (add-on or HA core) which are being updated

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Everything is in /mnt/data/supervisor on the old instance

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So if you found /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant then you can find /mnt/data/supervisor/share

crude sage Oct 17, 2022, 6:07 PM

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awesome! I'll look into that

magic void Oct 17, 2022, 6:37 PM

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I'm having a hard time getting HAOS upgraded. I finally went on the CLI last night and ran "ha os update" and it completed and rebooted.

Today, while I'm logged in to the UI, not making any changes, it loses connectivity and comes back, and the HA OS is back at 9.0.

$ ha os info
board: rpi4-64
boot: A
data_disk: /dev/mmcblk0p8
update_available: true
version: "9.0"
version_latest: "9.2"

modern basalt Oct 17, 2022, 6:58 PM

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Anyone got any idea why this would be happening? #installation-archived message

long sleet Oct 17, 2022, 7:09 PM

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VMware ESXi-vSpeare (.ova) fails to install.

crude sage Oct 17, 2022, 7:14 PM

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share is backed up during full backups

wintry dune Oct 17, 2022, 9:03 PM

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Hello all, I just built a new install today with BalenaEtcher, pushed the image to a sata ssd. I can boot from it and I can access its internal ip:8123, but it sits at preparing way to long. I have followed the guide here https://community.home-assistant.io/t/solution-to-a-hanged-preparing-home-installation-screen-during-new-install-on-a-raspberry-pi-4-dns-fix/273803 and tried to apply those, but as soon as I do host reboot it looses what I saved. and I seem to be back at square 1. Any help is greatly appreciated!

copper steppe Oct 18, 2022, 12:07 AM

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I never managed to get my rpi booting from sata, so you're one step better than me 🙂

hearty estuary Oct 18, 2022, 2:11 AM

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so i'm having some rather peculiar issues with my homeassistant core install. it'll work fine after being started, but about two hours later (i.e. after i've left the house) it refuses to respond to both local and external requests, and the logs are loaded with these exact lines (in image form, i've freshly restarted HA twice to change logging configurations): https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/899313429054128168/1031445376215044147/unknown.png

hardware information: a Lenovo ThinkPad T420s running Fedora Workstation 36, HA version 2022.10.1 (latest as of now).

manic bane Oct 18, 2022, 3:37 AM

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hearty estuary so i'm having some rather peculiar issues with my homeassistant core install. it...

Curious why you're using core instead of something easier like docker

hearty estuary Oct 18, 2022, 3:38 AM

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i've found docker to be a pain to get working

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but if need be (for debugging purposes) i could get it running

manic bane Oct 18, 2022, 4:17 AM

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hearty estuary i've found docker to be a pain to get working

It's just install docker & docker compose. Create docker compose file. Run. Profit?

hearty estuary Oct 18, 2022, 4:18 AM

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i'll try whacking it in, just gimme a few minutes

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but i'm still kinda confused on why it seems to just give up on responses when looking for "legacy devices"

winged vale Oct 18, 2022, 1:20 PM

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Hi, my core update from 10.3 to 10.4 keeps failing. It says installing for hours, then HA stalls, only a reset of my raspberry pi 4 brings it back to life... Anyone a hint where how to do it?

true moth Oct 18, 2022, 3:59 PM

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Need help

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anyone up ?

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I have installed and running HS from Oracle V Box

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problem, it says it may take upto 20min since 1 hr

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Login page is not loading

humble mirage Oct 18, 2022, 4:03 PM

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On that page, click the blue circle

true moth Oct 18, 2022, 4:04 PM

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umm, leme try

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ok sooo, lot of stuufs are loading up, Should I wait or ?

humble mirage Oct 18, 2022, 4:08 PM

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Wait, and if you think there's a problem use a code share site to share the logs

humble scaffoldBOT Oct 18, 2022, 4:08 PM

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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language)
https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

true moth Oct 18, 2022, 4:09 PM

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humble mirage Wait, and if you think there's a problem use a code share site to share the logs

ahhh thx bud, u saved ma ass, literally waited 3 hrs, shit is stuck on that page

true moth Oct 18, 2022, 4:35 PM

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Now its stuck at system autofix complete

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where and whom to share the logs @humble mirage

humble mirage Oct 18, 2022, 4:50 PM

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#installation-archived message

true moth Oct 18, 2022, 5:08 PM

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Yupp, Created a discussion on forum, thx bud, appreciate it!

errant tulip Oct 18, 2022, 5:18 PM

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I'm new to HA and I'm having an issue where my HA RPI won't boot. I get nothing in terms of screen activity or green light other than a brief flicker when power is first applied (red power is always on).
Attempting to load RPI3 9.2 64 bit (tried 32 bit as well). I have tried:

multiple SD cards (2x 8Gb, 2x32Gb)
same SD cards in 3 different RPI3
made SD cards with Balena Etcher and the RPI Imager
install normal RPI OS on same cards/RPIs and system boots with no issues
two different monitors
two different mice

Ethernet port light never blinks, router never sees the RPI.

It seems like the boot partition isn’t getting built correctly from the image even though Etcher/Imager said it completed successfully.

Everything points to bad images to me. I have tried building from the URLs and downloading/installing the image.

Any assistance is appreciated!

humble mirage Oct 18, 2022, 5:20 PM

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The 8 GB cards won't ever work

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Do make sure you're using the Pi3 image - the default image is for the Pi4 and won't boot a 3

errant tulip Oct 18, 2022, 5:20 PM

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That is confirmed. Tried both 32 and 64 bit

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What makes the 8Gb cards not work? Something in the HA image?

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haos_rpi3-9.2.img.xz

humble mirage Oct 18, 2022, 5:23 PM

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They're too small

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I suspect that a 16 GB card will "work", but 32 GB is the minimum size for a reason

errant tulip Oct 18, 2022, 5:24 PM

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I've tried 2 different 32Gb cards as well with the same results. Good to know about the 8Gb!

crude inlet Oct 18, 2022, 6:13 PM

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@errant tulip black screen?

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Got a pic of the pi3 you can share?

autumn path Oct 18, 2022, 6:18 PM

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@low notch Yes it's set up like this. 3.20

low notch Oct 18, 2022, 6:18 PM

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then what is your roborocks ip and what is your homeassistant ip?

autumn path Oct 18, 2022, 6:19 PM

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Robo - 192.168.1.14 HS - 192.168.1.37/24

low notch Oct 18, 2022, 6:19 PM

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oh, so you are done.

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you can go back to #integrations-archived because apparently you fixed your setup

errant tulip Oct 18, 2022, 6:47 PM

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crude inlet <@796455497737175092> black screen?

I am redfaced... My devices are not Model 3 but Model 2. sorry to waste you and @humble mirage's time!

wet meadow Oct 18, 2022, 9:11 PM

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Does anybody know of a tutorial or which version of OS install I should use on an AMD Ryzen?

brisk willow Oct 18, 2022, 11:38 PM

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@wet meadow https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64#install-home-assistant-operating-system

deft mirage Oct 18, 2022, 11:51 PM

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So, I picked up a second SSD for my i3 instance. I want to convert from supervised install to Home Assistant OS, I booted the new install on my test machine and restored a backup from the initial boot option screen. Backup restored, system booted but it did not start any of my addons and would not start any of them... did I do something wrong? Should I have not restored portainer? Any ideas?

stable anvil Oct 18, 2022, 11:53 PM

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Has anyone run into an issue where their SSH certificate randomly became invalid, preventing the app from being able to connect non locally?

crude inlet Oct 18, 2022, 11:59 PM

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@stable anvil SSL certificate? Is it really random or expired?

stable anvil Oct 19, 2022, 12:01 AM

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Hm good point. It could have expired. Is it normal that it needs to be refreshed or is there a way to set things up so it doesn't?

crude inlet Oct 19, 2022, 12:02 AM

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Did you use LetsEncrypt?

stable anvil Oct 19, 2022, 12:02 AM

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Yup. Figured it was handling things for me.

crude inlet Oct 19, 2022, 12:02 AM

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That's 3 months

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No

stable anvil Oct 19, 2022, 12:02 AM

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Ahhh

crude inlet Oct 19, 2022, 12:03 AM

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If you are using the standalone LetsEncryot addon (not duckdns addon which also uses LetsEncrypt) then you have to automate that renewal

stable anvil Oct 19, 2022, 12:03 AM

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I'm using DuckDns as well.

crude inlet Oct 19, 2022, 12:04 AM

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The duckdns addon takes care of the LE certificate. You wouldn't also need the LetsEncrypt addon

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Do you have both?

stable anvil Oct 19, 2022, 12:05 AM

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Ya I have both installed. I believe the tutorial I used told me to install both. But I could be wrong.

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Though LetsEncrypt isn't running.

crude inlet Oct 19, 2022, 12:06 AM

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The tutorial could also be wrong or out of date

stable anvil Oct 19, 2022, 12:06 AM

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Good to know. Thanks for the info!

crude inlet Oct 19, 2022, 12:06 AM

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If you're using a duckdns domain you only need the duckdns addon. It includes LE certificate options

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It also checks if it needs renewal

scarlet egret Oct 19, 2022, 5:41 AM

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Hey! I'm trying to install home assistant to raspberry pi 4. Successfully flashed the microSD card and the Raspi seems to be doing something since it is flashing the LEDs when booting but it doesn't seem to even request IP from DHCP server (based on router logs). Is this as intended?

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Network config is just bog standard wifi router and the raspi is connected to it via ethernet

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Don't have a micro HDMI cable yet so can't attach a monitor to see if there is any error, not sure what else I can try

pulsar fossil Oct 19, 2022, 6:00 AM

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Hi, I want to integrate the IMAP email content to fetch gmail and extract info for a sensor, I am following this : https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/imap_email_content/
I am getting the body of the email as html, NOT the "html source" or "original message"
Does anyone know -- how I can get the full "html source" or "original message" of the email body?

copper steppe Oct 19, 2022, 6:55 AM

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is there any way to modify the source of a running HAOS? I want to local revert a core/integration plugin that has a merged patch that breaks things for me.

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Could do it on my local just fine, just not sure how HA OS works under the covers.

cinder marsh Oct 19, 2022, 8:00 AM

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@scarlet egret it should get an IP address via DHCP..

scarlet egret Oct 19, 2022, 8:02 AM

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yeah I'd expect so, and I'd expect it to work with fixed HW like a Raspi oO

cinder marsh Oct 19, 2022, 8:13 AM

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It does work, I just flashed and booted an rpi4 a few hours ago. No issues

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Was the flash to the sd card successful? I downloaded the img.xz and then used balena. Are you using the correct power supply? Try a different network cable and/or router port?

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Reseat the sd card in the pi? Something isn't right.

scarlet egret Oct 19, 2022, 8:31 AM

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yeah did it based on the official installation instructions using balena etcher from the URL, tried two different machines for flashing the microSD, tried different cables and router ports

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did NOT try a different PSU for the raspi so I can try that I guess

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it definitely seems to work/boot since it is flashing the green LED occasionally

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more so at boot

quartz wing Oct 19, 2022, 8:42 AM

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Was talking to some people on a different server about what it's like asking for help on this server sometimes
https://imgflip.com/i/6xgg6j

cinder marsh Oct 19, 2022, 8:51 AM

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@scarlet egret try downloading the image manually, not through balena

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@scarlet egret could also be RPI firmware related. You might try installing raspberry pi os and then using raspo-config or whatever the method is to update the firmware

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raspi-config rather

scarlet egret Oct 19, 2022, 9:22 AM

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I'll try those today, thanks for the tips!

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at work right now, could always go ask IT to lend me a micro HDMI cable tho...

cinder marsh Oct 19, 2022, 9:28 AM

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No worries 🙂

umbral gazelle Oct 19, 2022, 11:28 AM

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i put up a web server on the internet to redirect port 443 to my homeassistant service on 8123. However, when I try to log into this service, it fails to log me in with the error: POST https://hidden.for.security.com/auth/token 400 (Bad Request). Looking at this in the chrome devtools shows me that the payload response is {"error":"invalid_request","error_description":"Invalid code"}. Does anyone know why I would be getting an invalid code and how I could fix it?

umbral gazelle Oct 19, 2022, 12:10 PM

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Had an epiphany; /config/network had a specific internet 'name' that was causing this. Still having issues, but its one step further.

flat wyvern Oct 19, 2022, 2:49 PM

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My plan for setting up something similar which may be of help (i've only setup the dns stuff so far though so the rest is untested)

i've setup dns identically on my home network as i'll be accessing it online to avoid issues like this i use my for exmaple home.my.domain points to my local ip on my local network but online home.my.domain points to my external ip, and when i setup my reverse proxy i'll have it listening on host home.my.domain and forward it to hass address via proxy_pass

externally home.my.domain is updated via dynu (if i remember the name correctly)

you could do it without the reverse proxy and just port forward the router to the server internally

night seal Oct 19, 2022, 2:51 PM

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Hello everybody,
Can anyone tell me why at the first start it remains blocked waiting for the 20 minutes to pass? thank you

flat wyvern Oct 19, 2022, 3:11 PM

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assuming you're running on HAOS, i never really knew what was up with the starting, sometimes scripts or sensors can cause it to take ages, since i moved to docker the start time is only a few seconds

grand pivot Oct 19, 2022, 3:15 PM

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It's downloading all the required packages

night seal Oct 19, 2022, 3:16 PM

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yes

grand pivot Oct 19, 2022, 3:16 PM

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So what's the question?

night seal Oct 19, 2022, 3:18 PM

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grand pivot So what's the question?

I have installed Home Assistant on pi 4 and everything is fine here when I try to access the screen (Preparing Home Assistant) remains blocked 50 minutes have passed

grand pivot Oct 19, 2022, 3:19 PM

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Click the blue dot

night seal Oct 19, 2022, 3:19 PM

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is it a dns problem?

humble scaffoldBOT Oct 19, 2022, 3:22 PM

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@night seal I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt

night seal Oct 19, 2022, 3:23 PM

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I can't send it all what can I do?

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supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.DNS_SERVER_IPV6_ERROR/ContextType.DNS_SERVER
22-10-19 17:28:11 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.DNS_SERVER_FAILED/ContextType.DNS_SERVER
22-10-19 17:28:11 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.IPV4_CONNECTION_PROBLEM/ContextType.SYSTEM
22-10-19 17:28:11 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.NO_CURRENT_BACKUP/ContextType.SYSTEM

elder flume Oct 19, 2022, 4:04 PM

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Has anyone successfully VM'd HAOS on a pi 4? it sounds wacky but i feel like i have my reasoning...

flat wyvern Oct 19, 2022, 5:16 PM

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elder flume Has anyone successfully VM'd HAOS on a pi 4? it sounds wacky but i feel like i h...

why not just docker it at that point you'd have way better performance

grand pivot Oct 19, 2022, 5:17 PM

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Reasoning that shall remain secret and confidential!

brittle yew Oct 19, 2022, 5:49 PM

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Anyone seeing alexa text to speech notifications home assistant not working all of sudden?

scarlet egret Oct 19, 2022, 5:53 PM

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hmm stupid question of the day but how do I shut down my raspberry from home assistant?

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some menu in settings says something about rebooting but it doesn't seem to contain any option for rebooting or shutting down

grand pivot Oct 19, 2022, 5:53 PM

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brittle yew Anyone seeing alexa text to speech notifications home assistant not working all ...

no change for me

grand pivot Oct 19, 2022, 5:54 PM

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scarlet egret some menu in settings says something about rebooting but it doesn't seem to cont...

configuration -> System -> Hardware -> dotsvertical

scarlet egret Oct 19, 2022, 5:55 PM

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@grand pivot ooooh the ... menu in the corner that didn't do anything in any other menu, thanks

coarse laurel Oct 19, 2022, 6:02 PM

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i'm trying to get back into my HassIO installation; looks like my Let's Encrypt timed out, and it seems like my Samba isn't working either. Any hints where I might find start searching for the Config folder?

humble scaffoldBOT Oct 19, 2022, 6:03 PM

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Hass.io was the old name for the appliance like install option, that uses Docker. It was renamed in January 2020 and is now called Home Assistant OS.

grand pivot Oct 19, 2022, 6:04 PM

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depending on how you installed HA and on what hardware, you can use the console

night seal Oct 19, 2022, 6:04 PM

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@grand pivot help me please

grand pivot Oct 19, 2022, 6:05 PM

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plonk

coarse laurel Oct 19, 2022, 6:06 PM

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it's a Debian installation in Hyper-V; I'm able to log into the base OS; the Docker daemon doesn't seem to be running (causative, perhaps? but not sure, can't remember)

grand pivot Oct 19, 2022, 6:08 PM

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I'm not clear on how you're running Home Assistant OS with that configuration

coarse laurel Oct 19, 2022, 6:08 PM

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don't read too far into me calling it HassIO, it's been two years since I installed it, based on the age of the VM

grand pivot Oct 19, 2022, 6:08 PM

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that's critically important

coarse laurel Oct 19, 2022, 6:08 PM

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regardless it was installed and had been working previously in a Debian OS

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what canI look at to tell you how it was installed? I'm sure I won't be able to find the instructions I used again.

grand pivot Oct 19, 2022, 6:09 PM

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if you're running Supervised, that's an expert-level installation method and bound to break

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and if so, your config directory will (probably) be in /usr/share/hassio/homeassistant

coarse laurel Oct 19, 2022, 6:10 PM

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let me check there, thank you

grand pivot Oct 19, 2022, 6:11 PM

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and rather than getting it working again, you should grab one of your backups and switch to a real Home Assistant OS installation running in your VM of choice

coarse laurel Oct 19, 2022, 6:11 PM

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That's what I"m shooting for 😉 trying to get the config data out of the Config folder, so I don't have to recreate my automations and coding from scratch.

grand pivot Oct 19, 2022, 6:12 PM

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use a backup instead

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hopefully you actually have one

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you can import that and it will be practically seamless

coarse laurel Oct 19, 2022, 6:12 PM

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already rebuilding into a physical machine.

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just need the data 😉

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Found the info,thanks for your help 🙂

cursive mica Oct 19, 2022, 6:27 PM

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Hi, I've been sent here to discuss about my issue #general-archived message
Can you help me please?
The Pi has an SD card and all the data are on an USB SSD.

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(I copied the link to the message to avoid cross-posting, tell me if you prefer me to copy the content here)

night seal Oct 19, 2022, 6:41 PM

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22-10-19 20:08:59 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.SECURITY/ContextType.CORE
22-10-19 20:08:59 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.PWNED/ContextType.ADDON
22-10-19 20:08:59 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.FREE_SPACE/ContextType.SYSTEM
22-10-19 20:08:59 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.DNS_SERVER_IPV6_ERROR/ContextType.DNS_SERVER
22-10-19 20:08:59 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.DNS_SERVER_FAILED/ContextType.DNS_SERVER
22-10-19 20:08:59 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.IPV4_CONNECTION_PROBLEM/ContextType.SYSTEM
22-10-19 20:08:59 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.NO_CURRENT_BACKUP/ContextType.SYSTEM
22-10-19 20:08:59 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new suggestion SuggestionType.CREATE_FULL_BACKUP - ContextType.SYSTEM / None
22-10-19 20:08:59 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue IssueType.NO_CURRENT_BACKUP - ContextType.SYSTEM / None
22-10-19 20:08:59 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.check] System checks complete
22-10-19 20:08:59 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.evaluate] Starting system evaluation with state CoreState.RUNNING
22-10-19 20:08:59 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.host.sound] Updating PulseAudio information
22-10-19 20:08:59 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.host.manager] Host information reload completed
22-10-19 20:09:02 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.evaluate] System evaluation complete
22-10-19 20:09:02 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] Starting system autofix at state CoreState.RUNNING
22-10-19 20:09:02 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete

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how can i fix crashes at this point

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TY

cursive mica Oct 19, 2022, 8:04 PM

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Hi I ve been sent here to discuss about

manic bane Oct 19, 2022, 9:05 PM

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night seal how can i fix crashes at this point

Start by not breaking the rules on this discord think

night seal Oct 19, 2022, 10:48 PM

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manic bane Start by not breaking the rules on this discord <:think:523844368453337100>

ok sorry

sacred fox Oct 19, 2022, 11:00 PM

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Several days ago I ran updates on my Home Assistant System. Now I am getting error messages "400: Bad Request" when trying to access my system using my external name. I do have Lets Encrypt installed as well. When looking at the Log Viewer I see this every time I attempt to connect; ... ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http.forwarded] Received X-Forwarded-For header from an untrusted proxy 172.30.33.4. I have been trying to find out how to fix this but have not had any luck.

manic bane Oct 19, 2022, 11:23 PM

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sacred fox Several days ago I ran updates on my Home Assistant System. Now I am getting er...

Do you use a reverse proxy to do it? Eg ngnix or traefik, etc

sacred fox Oct 19, 2022, 11:25 PM

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manic bane Do you use a reverse proxy to do it? Eg ngnix or traefik, etc

I do have Nginx Proxy Manager installed.

manic bane Oct 19, 2022, 11:26 PM

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sacred fox I do have Nginx Proxy Manager installed.

So have you read the error. It tells you what the issue is. You haven't added the correct IP for the reverse proxy, or you only added a single IP and the container IP has changed

sacred fox Oct 19, 2022, 11:30 PM

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manic bane So have you read the error. It tells you what the issue is. You haven't added th...

How do I get the containers IP

fiery night Oct 19, 2022, 11:31 PM

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unsure if this is the correct channel, but I'm on Home Assistant OS 8.5, and it looks like 9.2 is out, but it's not prompting me to update

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oh ok, ha os update just does the thing without any confirmation

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well, I did that and now Home Assistant is unreachable; I assume it's updating now lol

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(previously I was trying from the UI)

manic bane Oct 19, 2022, 11:33 PM

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sacred fox How do I get the containers IP

Well read the error. What does it say there.....

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ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http.forwarded] Received X-Forwarded-For header from an untrusted proxy 172.30.33.4

fiery night Oct 19, 2022, 11:34 PM

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fiery night unsure if this is the correct channel, but I'm on Home Assistant OS 8.5, and it ...

ok well running ha os update manually seems to have worked

manic bane Oct 19, 2022, 11:34 PM

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So 172.30.33.0/24 would also work for the whole subnet if you want

sacred fox Oct 19, 2022, 11:53 PM

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manic bane So 172.30.33.0/24 would also work for the whole subnet if you want

Ok so I edited using the File editor (because I don't know where else I can edit this) the /config/configuration.yaml file and how have this set to:

http:
use_x_forwarded_for: true
trusted_proxies:
- 172.30.33.0/24

Restarted the entire server and now I can login.
I will now see if I can get Lets Encrypt working again.

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@manic bane Thanks for your help this evening. I think I got it working. Even Alexa is now working again.

acoustic thistle Oct 20, 2022, 12:18 AM

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Hello! I seem to be having an issue accessing my Home Assistant behind my NGINX Proxy Manager. Works fine when I’m home.

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I just switched from HAOS in a VM, to Container.

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Hmmm. Just noticed the previous conversation. Thanks in arrears?

fiery night Oct 20, 2022, 12:23 AM

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lol

acoustic thistle Oct 20, 2022, 12:40 AM

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Solved! With a bit of reading…

grim heron Oct 20, 2022, 12:44 AM

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I am wanting to move from an RPi4 to my own docker install for Home Assistant. The biggest hurdle I am running into is adding my Zooze Zwave 700 stick to the container. It seems to be found under ttyUSB0 and I am not sure if I have to add the device in the compose file or if i have to add it as a device in the configuration file. Adding it as a Zwave device once plugged in, just fails to connect to the ws: server.

fiery night Oct 20, 2022, 12:45 AM

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grim heron I am wanting to move from an RPi4 to my own docker install for Home Assistant. ...

you need to add it to both

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to the compose file so the container has access to it, then the config file so Home Assistant can see it

grim heron Oct 20, 2022, 12:52 AM

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For the config file, my RPI4 version (HASSIO) does not show the ZWAVE dongle in the config. I am coming up short on a link but also a bit brain fried right now (sorry), on where to add this in the config

fiery night Oct 20, 2022, 12:53 AM

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you probably added it through the UI if it's not in the config yaml

grim heron Oct 20, 2022, 2:27 AM

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Not working though. I am not 100% sure though, I remember something about needing to set Zwave2JS but as far as I know, that's deprecated now.
https://i.imgur.com/kIOOXRw.png

grim heron Oct 20, 2022, 3:09 AM

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Solved by using this:
https://github.com/kpine/zwave-js-server-docker

scarlet egret Oct 20, 2022, 5:18 AM

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@cinder marsh btw. it was probably the PSU, the Raspi was boot looping so no wonder it seemed to be doing something all the time... Changed to another Huawei charger that at least looks the same as the other one and now it works. Filesystem had gotten corrupted tho but that was fixed with reflashing

cinder marsh Oct 20, 2022, 5:34 AM

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@scarlet egret thanks for the follow up

scarlet egret Oct 20, 2022, 5:36 AM

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it seemed to boot till the point when it changes the boot prompt resolution and then it just starts from beginning, I guess turning the GPU on makes the PSU dip or something

blissful spoke Oct 20, 2022, 7:15 AM

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Good day, I'm trying to install HAOS on a secondary NUC to use as a backup for my already working NUC. But every time I try to flash the image to my SSD it crashes the whole system at 26%. I've tried an older release of the image. I'm using the generic x64 image.

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I've tried a different SSD, but it also crashes at 26%.

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The only thing I can't change is the live CD I'm using is Debian, because on Ubuntu I couldn't get Balena Etcher to work.

cinder marsh Oct 20, 2022, 7:26 AM

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Are you running a live CD on the target host and then attempting to write to the host's SSD via balena?

blissful spoke Oct 20, 2022, 7:26 AM

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yes

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Thank you for the fast reply

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I'm going to try Ubuntu again, to see if I get balena to work on that.

cinder marsh Oct 20, 2022, 7:29 AM

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You also might try removing the SSD and writing directly to it from another system if you've got one

blissful spoke Oct 20, 2022, 7:30 AM

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The problem is that I can't I haven't got the hardware to do that. Running Mac's only

cinder marsh Oct 20, 2022, 7:31 AM

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Balena works on Mac, I use it

blissful spoke Oct 20, 2022, 7:31 AM

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Yes, but I haven't got the hardware to connect the ssd

cinder marsh Oct 20, 2022, 7:31 AM

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Ahh I see

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Try Ubuntu live CD again and have a look at this if you haven't already: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-balena-etcher-on-ubuntu-22-04/443092/6

low notch Oct 20, 2022, 7:51 AM

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you can extract the image and use dd

blissful spoke Oct 20, 2022, 7:56 AM

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dd? in terminal you mean?

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Ubuntu is a no go for me, slow as hell and Balena is just not starting. No error nothing.

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Going back to debian as live cd again. trying some other flashing software instead of balena

low notch Oct 20, 2022, 8:04 AM

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yes in terminal

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no need for flashing software

blissful spoke Oct 20, 2022, 8:16 AM

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ok, back on balena on debian. Tried image OS 8.5 instead of 9.0 or 9.2. It fails instead of crashing the whole system.

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Now trying 7.5 to see if that also fails.

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that didn't work either... Now trying to flash to a USB stick instead of the SSD.

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That also doesn't work. I'm starting to think there is something wrong with this NUC.

low notch Oct 20, 2022, 8:33 AM

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faulty ram maybe

cinder marsh Oct 20, 2022, 8:38 AM

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Try updating uefi

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Could try rather

craggy saddle Oct 20, 2022, 1:24 PM

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Does anyone know where I can get an older copy of home assistant qcow2 image? I'm trying to trouble shoot a problem and even with a backup I can't get esphome to work

blissful spoke Oct 20, 2022, 1:27 PM

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just change the download url accordingly to the version you want. ie: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/download/8.5/haos_ova-8.5.qcow2.xz

craggy saddle Oct 20, 2022, 1:29 PM

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Awesome. Thank you.

brazen herald Oct 20, 2022, 3:09 PM

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Or go to the releases page and scroll down to find it and click the link 😉

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https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/

floral idol Oct 20, 2022, 6:28 PM

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blissful spoke That also doesn't work. I'm starting to think there is something wrong with this...

Tried the NUC install several times. Ended up using Proxmox. And it works like charm.

blissful spoke Oct 20, 2022, 7:47 PM

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floral idol Tried the NUC install several times. Ended up using Proxmox. And it works like c...

Thank you, but adding another layer of software to maintain is not what I am looking for right now.

candid terrace Oct 21, 2022, 3:25 AM

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i’m looking to get started with homeassistant and trying to understand the differences on the Compare Installation Methods chart, it looks like the OS method is the best? Or has the least limitations i think? And then would it be better to install on a PC or a Pi?

manic bane Oct 21, 2022, 3:38 AM

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candid terrace i’m looking to get started with homeassistant and trying to understand the diffe...

It depends on whether you're happy dedicating a device to HA only (OS) or if you want to run other things on the host (container)

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Add ons are just fancy containers

candid terrace Oct 21, 2022, 3:44 AM

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manic bane It depends on whether you're happy dedicating a device to HA only (OS) or if you...

well I have a NUC that just runs some kinda hacky homekit/homebridge thing, but i understand i would no longer need that with homeassistant

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oh i take that back I think the NUC runs something for Unifi networking as well, so maybe i should be looking at Supervised and Container methods

manic bane Oct 21, 2022, 4:05 AM

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candid terrace oh i take that back I think the NUC runs something for Unifi networking as well,...

Don't look at supervised. You cannot run anything other than add ons on it, and unless you're an expert you will break things

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Run container and spin up containers for any items you want

candid terrace Oct 21, 2022, 4:10 AM

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thanks!

copper steppe Oct 21, 2022, 4:38 AM

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I used to run core directly on a local python, but recently switched to HAOS, and am loving the ease-of-maintenence

scarlet egret Oct 21, 2022, 6:24 AM

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How do I enable SSH for HA? I find multiple guides with Google but they all talk about installing "Terminal & SSH" add-on but there doesn't seem to be such a thing

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This is with Raspberry Pi image

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guides also talk about enabling "advanced mode" for my user but there doesn't seem to be such a thing either

manic bane Oct 21, 2022, 6:29 AM

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scarlet egret guides also talk about enabling "advanced mode" for my user but there doesn't se...

So are you running HAOS?

scarlet egret Oct 21, 2022, 6:30 AM

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I am not sure on the distinction but I assume yes, the official Raspberry Pi image

manic bane Oct 21, 2022, 6:30 AM

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Advanced mode is under your profile

manic bane Oct 21, 2022, 6:31 AM

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scarlet egret I am not sure on the distinction but I assume yes, the official Raspberry Pi ima...

HAOS then. If its just booting straight into HA on it

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Then you have to install the SSH add on

scarlet egret Oct 21, 2022, 6:32 AM

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can't seem to attach an image but I cannot find anything that looks like that, the edit user thing just has a setting for making me an administrator or let me log in only from the local network, no other settings

manic bane Oct 21, 2022, 6:32 AM

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No, your profile. Click your name

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Don't go into user settings

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scarlet egret Oct 21, 2022, 6:33 AM

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"Error while loading page profile." mmkay

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I'll try rebooting

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"Error while loading page system." well ok that doesn't work either, just updated to the newest core version so probably related...

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well now it started somewhat loading the pages but not very consistently, rebooting now

manic bane Oct 21, 2022, 6:38 AM

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Tried a restart of the host?

scarlet egret Oct 21, 2022, 6:38 AM

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just rebooting the whole raspi

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but yeah now it seems to load the profile and enabling the advanced mode makes the ssh add-on to show, thanks

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SSH add-on doesn't seem to work, when I press start it supposedly starts fine, then click "Open web-ui" I get 502: Bad gateway and after that the add-on again has the start button there

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didn't touch config at all

humble mirage Oct 21, 2022, 6:57 AM

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Check the add-on log

scarlet egret Oct 21, 2022, 6:58 AM

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well now, seems to require a very specific order of operation, need to paste SSH key, then press save, then start it, otherwise it just silently fails

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if you look at YAML config for example inbetween it seems to reset/forget the configuration and then it will again silently fail on start

placid sage Oct 21, 2022, 7:40 AM

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Hey, my home assistant keeps going down after a few hours. I restart it, then it works fine and then it just goes down(router doesnt see it either) but the led's are still on.

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The logs dont seem to show anything useful

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The install is 2y/o, the issue started happening a few weeks ago. RPI4 with home assistant os

stuck pond Oct 21, 2022, 8:37 AM

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Just did a fresh VM install on Ubuntu and after booting I get spammend with this: get_swap_device: Bad swap file entry

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Hass OS seems to run fine (still waiting on the setup part) , but the messages won't stop

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Anyone any idea?

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The spamming is happening wihtin the VBOX vm to be clear

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Ok, did the whole thing again and it worked the second time.

mystic niche Oct 21, 2022, 12:40 PM

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Hello guys. My HA installation has grown up over last few ears and RPi is having hard time to load log files and work reliably. I would like to move to some new HW but since HA Amber is not available yet what you would you recommend me to use? I want something fast and reliable so I don't have to wait 10min to restart etc. Is Odroid N2+ the best choice?

humble mirage Oct 21, 2022, 12:41 PM

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Any second hand PC from the last decade, or old laptop, or low power NUC will be a better choice

mystic niche Oct 21, 2022, 12:46 PM

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Why is low power NUC better than ODROID?

humble mirage Oct 21, 2022, 12:49 PM

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The ODroid is still pretty low end, a smaller NUC is likely to significantly out perform it

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Also, likely to cost much the same particularly if you get it second hand

covert karma Oct 21, 2022, 12:51 PM

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Anyone succesfully installed HA on the first Tinker Board?

mystic niche Oct 21, 2022, 1:02 PM

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humble mirage Also, likely to cost much the same particularly if you get it second hand

Thank you.

limber hedge Oct 21, 2022, 3:30 PM

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Hi so I am installing home assistant on fedora 36 server and when I try to create a venv using
python -m venv . source bin/active
I get this
Error: [Errno 21] is a directory: '/opt/home assistant/bin/activate
Any reason for this

warm tendon Oct 21, 2022, 5:18 PM

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Hello, im trying to install Home Assistant Operating System on my old macbook using VirtualBox and keeps crashing during startup. The last thing i see is this screen(screenshot below(cant at the screenshot for some reason)) before the vm crashes and the status in VirtualBox becomes aborted. Anybody know how to fix this?

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Waiting for Supervisor to startup…
Is the last thing it says

whole igloo Oct 21, 2022, 6:42 PM

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warm tendon Hello, im trying to install Home Assistant Operating System on my old macbook us...

Could be because you are mounting the VDI disk into the wrong Linux version of virtualbox. Make sure you pay attention to this: Select Type “Linux” and Version “Linux 2.6 / 3.x / 4.x (64-bit)”

placid sage Oct 21, 2022, 7:04 PM

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Soo, different usb's, different installation methods (Rufus, etcher, etc), It seems to install everything currently, it displays the splash screen, but it just doesn't move past the "preparing home assistant, it can take up to 20 min". Anyone has that issue. What can I do to make it work?

X86 image, 9.2

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The last log was from around 30 min, and it ends in updating local network information

warm tendon Oct 21, 2022, 7:25 PM

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whole igloo Could be because you are mounting the VDI disk into the wrong Linux version of v...

Operating system: Linux 2.6 / 3.x / 4.x / 5.x (64-bit) is the one I’m using. Is that shouldn’t be the problem right?

whole igloo Oct 21, 2022, 7:32 PM

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warm tendon Operating system: Linux 2.6 / 3.x / 4.x / 5.x (64-bit) is the one I’m using. Is ...

yeah, that shouldn't be the problem :(.

humble mirage Oct 21, 2022, 8:16 PM

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Hi so I am installing home assistant on

placid furnace Oct 21, 2022, 8:42 PM

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Quick question about the Raspberry Pi4-

In the past, I've run OpenMediaVault on a Pi4 and one thing you could do to make it "snappier" responding was to increase the clock speed from the default 1.7ghz to 2.0ghz with a simple change to the config file. This has some thermal repercussions, but I am using good heatsinks and fans so it didn't impact reliability to do this overclocking. I have since moved this known-to-work-at-2ghz pi to my HAOS setup and was wondering..

Is there a way to "overclock" the Pi from its default 1.7ghz to 2.0ghz on HAOS..? 🤔

humble mirage Oct 21, 2022, 8:44 PM

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No

placid furnace Oct 21, 2022, 8:44 PM

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So is there a reason this can't be done..?

humble mirage Oct 21, 2022, 8:45 PM

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Because it's not supported shrug

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I'm pretty sure if it was plenty of people would pick silly numbers, without heatsinks, and then complain

placid furnace Oct 21, 2022, 8:46 PM

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lol. if home automation folks let "not supported" be a barrier, we wouldn't have half the integrations we have now.. 🙂

humble mirage Oct 21, 2022, 8:46 PM

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Then... use a native Docker install and have the freedom to do what you want blobwink

placid furnace Oct 21, 2022, 8:46 PM

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that is a possibility... 🤔

humble mirage Oct 21, 2022, 8:47 PM

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HAOS is for those who want a point-n-click experience

placid furnace Oct 21, 2022, 8:51 PM

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it is a good place to start so I get the idea of it being more of a point and click solution. I can also see the possible "my pi crashed! HaLp?!" kind of questions from folks that are optimistic on how their pi would work at higher speeds! 😁

That said, it is a basic function of the pi hardware and the level of technical knowledge to really dive into HA seems commensurate with simple mods.. the Pi4 default very conservative clock speed is to ensure that if someone uses it out of the box w/o any heatsink, it will run fairly well. The CPU with even a modest heatsink can do ~1.8ghz/1.9ghz w/o trouble.. plus the CPU will throttle its performance if it gets too hot so pretty safe to play with it.

humble mirage Oct 21, 2022, 8:54 PM

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There's a depressingly large percentage of the HA user base that have little to no actual technical knowledge, or the ability to solve problems

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They're exactly the ones that blindly follow YouTube videos from 3 years ago, and are confused why things aren't the same, and need hand-held through the changes

placid furnace Oct 21, 2022, 8:55 PM

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I guess in some ways.. thats... good...? 🙂 The same thing can be said about the freshman class of any university.. they don't have the knowledge but they want to learn. We were all n00bz once.. 🙂

low notch Oct 21, 2022, 8:56 PM

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my pi 4 runs fine with stock clock speeds. and i have a huge amount of entities / integrations running

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no need for overclocking at least for me

placid furnace Oct 21, 2022, 8:58 PM

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mine is working well right now too. I did upgrade from using the SDcard to a USB3/SATA/SSD setup.. I didn't really notice any performance change when I did the SD to SATA/USB3 swap, but I did it for reliability as I had heard the pi + haos can kill sd cards...

low notch Oct 21, 2022, 8:58 PM

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that is true, thus i run 4 pis off a single ssd

placid furnace Oct 21, 2022, 8:59 PM

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if I wanted to go nuts (performance wise), I would put it on docker on my unraid server which is Ryzen7/1700 @4ghz 😄

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I just like to not leave performance "on the table" if I can avoid it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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what device do you use to share the ssd with 4x pis..?

low notch Oct 21, 2022, 9:01 PM

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I got more speed boost by upgrading my laptop which renders the page 2-3 times faster than my old one. guess the 300mhz will not have that same effect

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the pis do pxe boot, there is no direct storage attached to them

placid furnace Oct 21, 2022, 9:03 PM

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PxE boot.. wow.. I haven't done a Pre-Boot-Ex setup in years... Last time I did was on a Novell NetWare server with some NE2000 cards! 😁😂🤣

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doing it back then prolly soured my perception.. it was dog slow back then...

low notch Oct 21, 2022, 9:04 PM

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they are speedy

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boot debian in a matter of a few seconds

placid furnace Oct 21, 2022, 9:04 PM

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good to know. I would consider doing a PxE setup for testing if its better/faster/stronger etc now 🙂

low notch Oct 21, 2022, 9:05 PM

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it will be a good thing to have when overclocking, you wont waste power on usb / sd

placid furnace Oct 21, 2022, 9:05 PM

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doing PxE boot with PoE on a Pi would have real use...

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is there a HAOS implementation for Pxe..?

low notch Oct 21, 2022, 9:07 PM

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nope

placid furnace Oct 21, 2022, 9:07 PM

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darn

low notch Oct 21, 2022, 9:07 PM

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#installation-archived message

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do it

placid furnace Oct 21, 2022, 9:08 PM

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I figure I'll end up there.. I am still in the "gee this looks interesting, lets see how it works" mode... I wanted to start small and simple and then scale up

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I am blown away by ESPhome.. I've been programming ESP32 using Arduio IDE in the past.. having it so easy to setup/employ ESP into the system is a game changer!

low notch Oct 21, 2022, 9:11 PM

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fyi: i have lots of entities and my system runs reasonable fast. just don't expect it to be snappy when you tinker a lot with it. so setup your system on a fast machine and then transfer it over is what I would suggest

spring bolt Oct 22, 2022, 3:25 AM

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I actually ran my Home Assistant on a Pi0 (had no clue the Pi4 situation was coming) for a while with ArchArm Linux, and it worked surprisingly well once I switched to docker vs a pacman or was aur install using python venv (which was slow as crap and failed to compile any integration you installed cause it was missing deps).

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I got lucky right after ArchArm dropped ARMv6 support to grab 2 Raspberry Pi 3's for $40 total.

floral cape Oct 22, 2022, 4:44 AM

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Hi, I was just updating to the latest core, from its previous version, but something failed and while booting it says Home Assistant CLI not starting and has jumped to the emergency console, can anyone help with what I will need to do here?

spring bolt Oct 22, 2022, 5:25 AM

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you probably need to look through home assistant logs to find out what's happening. but it's probably a missing dependency or python lib. one of the main reasons I switched to the docker container.

crude inlet Oct 22, 2022, 5:32 AM

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@floral cape updating HA core or the OS?

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Updating HA core would not change anything for the OS or booting

spring bolt Oct 22, 2022, 6:11 AM

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Actually yeah it sounds like OS with emergency console. Which would mean docker took too long to start. You can type login after that message shows up to get into it.

floral cape Oct 22, 2022, 8:14 AM

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I actually had to do a supervisor repair then all was good

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not sure what went wrong

radiant hazel Oct 22, 2022, 8:58 AM

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Hello. I installed HA on a raspberry 3 B+. I cannot set the correct date and time. It shows me the time 15 hours ago. Timezone configured them well. How could I set the date and time correctly? Thanks.

flat wyvern Oct 22, 2022, 3:38 PM

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can only assume my ongoing issues with home assistant crashing after several hours with no log indication persisting in docker after moving away from os is due to some weird yaml bug somewhere liek it's choking on a sensor that returns undefined, so going through every sensor to sanitize everything

brisk willow Oct 22, 2022, 4:25 PM

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There's no home-assistant.log.fault in /config?

flat wyvern Oct 22, 2022, 4:36 PM

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nope fault log is blank

flat wyvern Oct 22, 2022, 4:58 PM

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it's like there's a memory leak somewhere and eventually the web server fails but i've seen no errors to indicate that

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other possiblity is somewhere there's some form of network loop happening between connections and that results in a failure

deft mirage Oct 22, 2022, 9:01 PM

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So, given that I have been running supervised for years... the other day I converted to HAOS native on my old Lenovo i3 USFF system. Outage... less than 10 minutes! I pre-installed the OS on the drive on another system, installed the drive and installed my most recent backup from the onboarding screen. Knew what to do, but it seems that nothing ever goes that smoothly for me.

Thanks to several users here for the conversation we had here the other day.

brisk willow Oct 22, 2022, 9:04 PM

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You've made a good decision

deft mirage Oct 22, 2022, 9:05 PM

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Yup, I think so... Thanks again for the great discussion the other day.

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I really did not expect the conversion to go that well.

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One question... am I missing something or does Home Assistant not understand tagged vlans on the inbound ethernet?

brisk willow Oct 22, 2022, 9:15 PM

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What do you mean?

deft mirage Oct 22, 2022, 9:31 PM

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I do not see how to tag 2 vlans into home assistant. I would like to set up an IoT vlan and my main vlan with pc's and the server. I have HP managed switches at key locations and could easily tag 2 vlans around my network, but I would need to tag the 2 vlans into the server running HA.

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The IoT vlan is not allowed internet access and the main vlan is. I have wifi vap's on both subnets and run vlan tagging to most of my access points. I use PFsense for my main router. I could converge to a flat L2 vlan and firewall blocks of IP space to prevent access to the internet as well.

brisk willow Oct 22, 2022, 9:51 PM

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It sounds like you really just want a firewall rule to let stuff from the IoT VLAN to talk to HA

deft mirage Oct 23, 2022, 1:04 AM

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That is what I am doing right now. The issue I have is with multicast and ESP devices. Running ESPEasy you can form multicast groups that allow each one to be aware of the other and to provide data between the units. I use several and need them to be on the same subnet for this to work, I have a couple that are remoteish and are running split brain due to this. If I could get a second vlan in native, I could resolve the issue. I think a flat L2 is likely the way to go with firewall rules to prevent outbound access to a block of IP addresses. My main subnet is only 40 or so IP devices, so I could support a few more. The other problem I have is my house was built in the early 1850's and running cables is just not possible and wifi does not penetrate well as all of my walls are lathe/plaster and chicken wire.

limber pivot Oct 23, 2022, 4:47 AM

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I rebooted my pi 3 homeassistant device after letting it sit for a few months, and I'm a few versions behind on both homeassistant core & homeassistant OS. I updated both and was immediately presented with another message to update both again.

Do I have an option to just update to the latest version of both, or do I have to update each of these one version at a time?

radiant hazel Oct 23, 2022, 8:17 AM

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radiant hazel Hello. I installed HA on a raspberry 3 B+. I cannot set the correct date and tim...

can no one help me?

placid sage Oct 23, 2022, 10:50 AM

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Hey, my home assistant keeps going down after a few hours... Logs dont have anything relevant. How can I fix it?

slender olive Oct 23, 2022, 11:50 AM

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My backups are failing. Supervisor shows this error message:
22-10-23 04:43:03 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.module] Can't backup Home Assistant Core config folder: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/data/homeassistant/esphome/.esphome/build/esp07/src/esphome/core/<\x11'
I am unable to remove this file and ls -al of the parent dir shows: ls: ./<: No such file or directory

flat wyvern Oct 23, 2022, 11:52 AM

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slender olive My backups are failing. Supervisor shows this error message: ```22-10-23 04:43:...

sometimes the only way around that is to delete the entire folder that houses the erroneous entry, i'd copy the files you want to keep delete the core folder and then move them back

however if you go into the core folder and type "rm ./<" and then hit tab it might auto complete the filename for you so you can delete it

slender olive Oct 23, 2022, 11:55 AM

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flat wyvern sometimes the only way around that is to delete the entire folder that houses th...

I have tried both of those 😦 The dir won't delete:

rm: can't remove 'core': Directory not empty
$ rm \<^Q
rm: can't remove '<': No such file or directory```

flat wyvern Oct 23, 2022, 11:57 AM

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have you tried "rm -rf /data/homeassistant/esphome/.esphome/build/esp07/src/esphome/core/" the adding of / might get around that

slender olive Oct 23, 2022, 11:57 AM

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The Google suggests that the dir is corrupted and I should umount, then fsck -f <dir>, but I can't:

umount: can't unmount /config: Operation not permitted```

flat wyvern Oct 23, 2022, 11:57 AM

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after the end / should be an asterisk

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discord removed it

slender olive Oct 23, 2022, 11:58 AM

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The -f makes it not complain, but the file remains

flat wyvern Oct 23, 2022, 12:00 PM

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here's a possible solution do an ls -li on the core folder and you should get a number at the start of the list result for the file

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then use the find command to delete by number

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find /data/homeassistant/esphome/.esphome/build/esp07/src/esphome/core/ -inum 1833174 -exec rm -v {} \;

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obviously replace 1833174 with the number from the ls

slender olive Oct 23, 2022, 12:02 PM

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I do not get an inode number:

ls: core/<: No such file or directory
total 0```

flat wyvern Oct 23, 2022, 12:02 PM

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ls -li /data/homeassistant/esphome/.esphome/build/esp07/src/esphome/core

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ah nm i see what happend

slender olive Oct 23, 2022, 12:04 PM

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I am ssh'd into HA, and the directory isn't quite what is shown. There is no /data/homeassistant/esphome here, I have to go to /config/esphome.

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Installation is the vBox image on Linux. I might see if I can try this from single-user mode. (which I am not thrilled to attempt)

last coral Oct 23, 2022, 12:22 PM

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is there a way to have an 'update' sensor for HA Container installs?

flat wyvern Oct 23, 2022, 12:22 PM

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personally i'd recommend moving to docker if able, so much easier to fix issues, and a lot faster too, does mean losing "addons" but that's easily fixed with running a docker compose file to launch the apps you used as an addon and keeps things update date nicely too, i only used mosquitto and zigbee2mqtt which were easily migrated to docker

I spend a lot less time working on fixing random issues that happened in HASS and any issue that occurs pretty much just needs a restart of the docker image, plus i no longer have to worry about losing all my config either

humble scaffoldBOT Oct 23, 2022, 12:27 PM

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Version

Quality scale

:house: Internal

IoT Class

Local Push

Documentation

View the documentation

Source

View the source on GitHub

Issues

View known issues

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 12:28 PM

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last coral is there a way to have an 'update' sensor for HA Container installs?

Use that ☝️

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You can likely built a template sensor around the information there if you really want it

last coral Oct 23, 2022, 12:33 PM

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cheers

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i was looking at the 'update' stuff and couldnt see a way

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ahh, i already had one for docker hub.. odd.. ok, thanks

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:46 PM

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hi there, I am trying to install home assistant in docker on Ubuntu serve 20.04, when i run this command i get an error: 404 command not found. am fairly new to ubuntu server but learning fast. and help would be appreciated: curl -sL "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer/master/installer.sh" | bash -s

low notch Oct 23, 2022, 1:47 PM

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curl -fsSL https://get.docker.com -o get-docker.sh
sh get-docker.sh

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you don't want supervised if you struggle with the error you posted

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:48 PM

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not sure i understand what supervised is in this case?

low notch Oct 23, 2022, 1:48 PM

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are you following a specific tutorial?

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:49 PM

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yes, i found one on YT

low notch Oct 23, 2022, 1:49 PM

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don't do it

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:49 PM

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ha ha, ok, help me out. where should i go to learn the best way

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This is the one i have been following
https://www.juanmtech.com/how-to-set-up-hassio-in-docker-and-in-an-ubuntu-server/

low notch Oct 23, 2022, 1:50 PM

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what do you plan on doing? do you need addons on the way there?

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hass.io died a few years ago

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:51 PM

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ok makes sense. i have several smart devices and am looking to run home asistant on my Ubuntu server which hosts a couple of other apps

low notch Oct 23, 2022, 1:52 PM

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that is the next stop sign for supervised, supervised does not allow anything else running on the host

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you want homeassistant in a docker container, or maybe better for you: Home Assistant OS in a vm

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:53 PM

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i thought that was the idea of running it in docker no?

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my ubuntu server is super lightweight so wont run a VM

low notch Oct 23, 2022, 1:53 PM

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supervised and container both run in docker, only the latter gives you freedom to do whatever you want

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:54 PM

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I have setup the docker container on my Ubuntu server

low notch Oct 23, 2022, 1:54 PM

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great, what else do you need? 😄

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:54 PM

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Have run this
add-apt-repository
"deb [arch=amd64] https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu
$(lsb_release -cs)
stable"

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apt-get install docker-ce docker-ce-cli containerd.io

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docker run hello-world

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apt-get install
apparmor-utils
avahi-daemon
dbus
jq
network-manager
socat

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its getting the home assistant where it fails

low notch Oct 23, 2022, 1:56 PM

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so you setup docker thus far, no more

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#install-home-assistant-container

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:56 PM

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if you look here
https://www.juanmtech.com/how-to-set-up-hassio-in-docker-and-in-an-ubuntu-server/
I have followed this right to the last curl command

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 1:56 PM

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Ah, the infamous juanmtech

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That's for Supervised, that's a mistake

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:57 PM

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that dont sound good ! lol

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 1:57 PM

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Well, their guides lead you into trouble

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Nobody here will ever recommend them, because they set you up for failure very nicely

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:58 PM

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fair enough

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 1:58 PM

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If you really need add-ons then use HAOS

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If you really want to run on Ubuntu, use Container (aka native Docker)

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:58 PM

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my Ubuntu server is super lightweight

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 1:58 PM

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That guide you followed is a clusterfuck

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:58 PM

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ha ha, ok

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 1:58 PM

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Right out of the gate it's broken

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:58 PM

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like i said, am still learning

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 1:59 PM

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Honestly, the best thing you can do is start from the official docs

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Third party stuff can be:

Horribly outdated
Terribly misleading
Terrible

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 1:59 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#install-home-assistant-container
Right?

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perfect, will give it a look, assume i can ask Q's here if i need?

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 2:00 PM

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Yup

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Just, when you follow that guide, skip forwards to Compose

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 2:00 PM

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thank you both

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 2:00 PM

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Your future self will thank you for using Compose files

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 2:02 PM

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do i need to undo what i have already done?

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 2:03 PM

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Almost certainly the bit about installing Supervised

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curl -sL "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer/master/installer.sh" | bash -s
``` if that ran then you need to un-do it, somehow

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 2:04 PM

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thats the part that failed

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 2:04 PM

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Then that's good

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 2:04 PM

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so can ignore the rest and start from Compose on the link sent right?

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 2:05 PM

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Yup

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Create the compose file somewhere you're going to remember to back up

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I tend to suggest something a bit like:

/docker - the compose file
/docker/homeassistant - your HA config folder
/docker/other - etc

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Then you can back up /docker and get everything

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 2:06 PM

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perfect, many thanks, appreciate it

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one last Q, is it best to be logged in as root or just use my user and Sudo?

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 2:07 PM

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logging in as root is lazy

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Better to log in as your user and use sudo, or at least ensure you've got backups that you can restore from if you break the host

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You're going to want to test those backups at some point anyway

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 2:08 PM

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i log is as me then Sudo -i

low notch Oct 23, 2022, 2:08 PM

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you can add your user to the docker group and dont need sudo

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usermod -aG docker $youruser

abstract bison Oct 23, 2022, 2:36 PM

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Is it normal that the setup have been running for 40 mins and is still running? Im on haos

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 2:36 PM

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Click the blue dot

abstract bison Oct 23, 2022, 2:36 PM

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It crashed my browser-

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I will take my computer brb it froze on my phone

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At the bottom it shows

ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.utils] Can't execute start while a task is in progress

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 2:41 PM

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hey @humble mirage in the screen shot below it says to create a compose.yml file. where do i create it, and how do i find the path to my config?

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cant add screenshot

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 2:42 PM

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vagrant heath hey <@332579266623438848> in the screen shot below it says to create a compose.y...

#installation-archived message

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 2:43 PM

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are they in the root folder?

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 2:43 PM

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That's rather what / means

sleek patrol Oct 23, 2022, 2:43 PM

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Is there a way to deploy the home assistant companion app and preconfigure it to multiple phones

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 2:44 PM

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#android-archived or #ios_and_mac-archived can help there

sleek patrol Oct 23, 2022, 2:44 PM

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oh okie! Thanks!

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 2:44 PM

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do i need to create them?

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and everything goes in them, i get it

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 2:44 PM

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Makes backups easy, as I said above

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 2:44 PM

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yep, got ya

abstract bison Oct 23, 2022, 2:48 PM

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abstract bison At the bottom it shows ``` ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.utils] Can't execute s...

Well that error was 1h ago so i think nothing happened, and now its going back no idea why

22-10-23 16:44:53 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.evaluate] System evaluation complete
22-10-23 16:44:53 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] Starting system autofix at state CoreState.RUNNING
22-10-23 16:44:53 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete

Is this normal? it doesnt do anything else now

slender olive Oct 23, 2022, 2:56 PM

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Are the VMs (https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux/#install-home-assistant-operating-system) Docker containers? I know much too little about Docker and how it is used.

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 2:57 PM

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No, the VM is a virtual machine

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HAOS uses Docker for running HA, and all the add-ons

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That however is largely hidden from you, and not something you interact with

slender olive Oct 23, 2022, 2:58 PM

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Does the VM have HAOS?

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 2:58 PM

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The VM is HAOS

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HAOS == Home Assistant Operating System

slender olive Oct 23, 2022, 2:59 PM

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If my HAOS were to have a corrupt file/directory, is that something that I can fix?

abstract bison Oct 23, 2022, 2:59 PM

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[WARN] Home Assistant CLI not starting! Jump into emergency console"
I get this every time i restart, how do i fix this

humble mirage Oct 23, 2022, 3:00 PM

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slender olive If my HAOS were to have a corrupt file/directory, is that something that I can f...

Not easily, the point though is that it's disposable - simply use a fresh VM and restore your backups

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Assuming you have backups

slender olive Oct 23, 2022, 3:00 PM

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The corrupt file/dir is causing my backups to fail 😦

vagrant heath Oct 23, 2022, 3:00 PM

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@humble mirage Home assistant now up and running in a container on my Ubuntu server. Really appreciate your help.

flat wyvern Oct 23, 2022, 3:34 PM

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vagrant heath <@332579266623438848> Home assistant now up and running in a container on my Ubu...

if it helps i can show you the home assistant part of my docker config file

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ah nm you got it

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use docker rather than supervised works great

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and once the mods notice you mention supervised they're gonna try and beg you not to

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oh yeah a few weeks ago i had nothing but insane issues with HAOS that were practically impossible to debug and almost lost all my config

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once i managed to get back in i grabbed my config moved to docker and havent looked back

dapper wraith Oct 23, 2022, 8:27 PM

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hi all,
I'm running supervised install on docker and got the "unsupported" due to the connectivity check.
I have done the connectivity check and got b false..
added the lines missing to my NetworkManager.conf file.
Rebooted my host.
The lines i added was deleted after reboot.
Any ideas how to fix this?

brisk willow Oct 23, 2022, 8:28 PM

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Switch to HA OS

dapper wraith Oct 23, 2022, 8:29 PM

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that's one way but for me a not preferable one.

brisk willow Oct 23, 2022, 8:34 PM

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HA Container maybe?

copper steppe Oct 23, 2022, 9:05 PM

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Attempting to restore from a full backup. Booted new HA OS, selected restore, uploaded the file, confirmed "restore" - then it went back to the first-time create-account menu. Am I missing a step?

abstract bison Oct 23, 2022, 9:12 PM

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Hi, every time i try to access home assistant on a fresh install it says

Error returned from Supervisor: System is not ready with state: setup

I tried running ha > banner
Throws same error and tried to do supervisor repair, same thing

ha > supervisor repair
Processing... done
Error: System is not ready with state: setup

What can i do?

abstract bison Oct 23, 2022, 9:16 PM

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abstract bison Hi, every time i try to access home assistant on a fresh install it says ``` Err...

Tried banner again, now got a different error

Waiting for supervisor to startup...
System information
Get "http://supervisor/network/info":  dial tcp 172.30.32.2:80: connect: connection refused
ha >

oak geode Oct 23, 2022, 9:35 PM

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System Unhealthy? I've been feeding it lots of veggies 😦 HA Core. Can't update and my smart TV remote stopped working. HACS updated. But still problems. RPI 3.

low notch Oct 23, 2022, 9:37 PM

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system health lets me assume that you do not in fact run the installation called "Home Assistant Core" but Home Assistant OS ?

oak geode Oct 23, 2022, 9:37 PM

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Home Assistant 2022.10.3
Supervisor 2022.10.0
Operating System 9.2
Frontend 20221010.0 - latest

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could be OS yes

low notch Oct 23, 2022, 9:38 PM

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it is

oak geode Oct 23, 2022, 9:38 PM

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i used rpi imager

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ok

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sorry about that

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most issues i see need ssh to "ignore" it which doesn't sound great

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or talks about docker and such, which i dont think im using

low notch Oct 23, 2022, 9:39 PM

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I dont run this installation but someone else can help you for sure if you share relevant log files

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and you already run docker

oak geode Oct 23, 2022, 9:40 PM

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Error from stream worker: Stream ended; no additional packets
4:36:58 PM – (ERROR) Stream - message first occurred at 4:08:11 PM and shows up 19 times
[547777910896] Error updating Home Assistant Core 'HomeAssistantCore.update' blocked from execution, system is not healthy
4:29:08 PM – (ERROR) Home Assistant WebSocket API - message first occurred at 4:29:02 PM and shows up 2 times
Config entry 'Telmex GPON IAD' for upnp integration not ready yet: Device not discovered: uuid:70e77e0c-b402-4d62-a21d-3f773b0a247f:⚱️schemas-upnp-org:device:InternetGatewayDevice:1; Retrying in background
3:58:07 PM – (WARNING) config_entries.py
Setup of media_player platform samsungtv is taking over 10 seconds.
3:58:05 PM – (WARNING) Media player
Setup of flux_led is taking over 10 seconds.
3:58:03 PM – (WARNING) runner.py

low notch Oct 23, 2022, 9:40 PM

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supervisor logs?

high token Oct 23, 2022, 9:40 PM

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an urn? ⚱️

oak geode Oct 23, 2022, 9:40 PM

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where can I find that?

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nvm

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ill do a fresh restart and show the logs

high token Oct 23, 2022, 9:41 PM

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System --> Repairs --> dotsvertical --> System Information

oak geode Oct 23, 2022, 9:41 PM

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repairs didn't have anything there

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but i found the supervisor logs in logs then the tab top right

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ah

high token Oct 23, 2022, 9:41 PM

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It has 3 dots on the top right corner

oak geode Oct 23, 2022, 9:41 PM

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ok ill look

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Version core-2022.10.3
Installation Type Home Assistant OS
Development false
Supervisor true
Docker true
User root
Virtual Environment false
Python Version 3.10.5
Operating System Family Linux
Operating System Version 5.15.61-v8
CPU Architecture aarch64
Timezone America/Mexico_City
Configuration Directory /config

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Home Assistant Supervisor
Host Operating System Home Assistant OS 9.2
Update Channel stable
Supervisor Version supervisor-2022.10.0
Agent Version 1.4.1
Docker Version 20.10.17
Disk Total 13.5 GB
Disk Used 4.2 GB
Healthy Unhealthy
Supported true
Board rpi3-64
Supervisor API ok
Version API ok
Installed Add-ons Terminal & SSH (9.6.1), File editor (5.4.1)

high token Oct 23, 2022, 9:44 PM

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I didn't mean post all that 😅

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Does it not show on the top of that window though a red /yellow warning about being unhealthy?

oak geode Oct 23, 2022, 9:45 PM

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very top of the list yes

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Your installation is unhealthy
Running an unhealthy installation will cause issues. Below is a list of issues found with your installation, click on the links to learn how you can resolve the issues.

setup

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when i click learn more i get the above

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documentation shoes start the D-Bus?

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https://www.home-assistant.io/more-info/unhealthy/setup

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can also try restarting the Supervisor

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trying that now

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so igot logs from supervisor and it showed like 4 HACS things that wasn't "stable" which included my smart tv remote card.

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one was a tplink deco hacs addon which never did much so i removed it and then restarted

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seems like core update is working now

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so im healthy

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thanks @high token

high token Oct 23, 2022, 9:53 PM

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oak geode so igot logs from supervisor and it showed like 4 HACS things that wasn't "stabl...

Are you referring to We found a custom integration xxxxx which has not been tested by Home Assistant....?

oak geode Oct 23, 2022, 9:53 PM

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i am

high token Oct 23, 2022, 9:53 PM

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those are HA Core logs

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If you go to System --> Logs those are your HA's logs

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then on the top right you can change to supervisor logs

oak geode Oct 23, 2022, 9:54 PM

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welp. it worked

high token Oct 23, 2022, 9:54 PM

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two different kind of logs

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I'm just clearing that up for you so you know they are different. If someone asks in the future for supervisor logs you don't want to be giving them ha logs 😄

oak geode Oct 23, 2022, 9:54 PM

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thats kind. thank you

pure mauve Oct 23, 2022, 11:17 PM

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Hi, I'm about to migrate my installation from Snap to a Docker install. I created and downloaded a Backup, but I noticed in the Backups screen, there is no way to upload or restore backups that I can see, and I can't find it elsewhere either (maybe I am just being dumb).

How/where do I go to upload/restore from a Backup?
Will doing this be enough to migrate my entire setup and config or are there other things I should be aware of too?

brittle sail Oct 24, 2022, 12:29 AM

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pure mauve Hi, I'm about to migrate my installation from Snap to a Docker install. I create...

In docker there is no restore function only backup lol

brisk willow Oct 24, 2022, 12:42 AM

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You could just unpack the tarball that it creates though and drop the contents in /config

brittle sail Oct 24, 2022, 12:45 AM

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that's useful

edgy abyss Oct 24, 2022, 1:16 AM

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Hi all - I tried doing a bit of googling before posting this but I just got the Yellow device, which will be (is?) my first HA installation. I installed all the hardware including an SSD, made the boot drive, powered on while connected to ethernet, even got to the "HA is setting up" screen, but when I returned to it all I see is a loading icon on the :8123/onboarding site and it says "Something went wrong loading onboarding, try refreshing". I've tried unplugging it and then removed the USB stick, then plugged power back in but it keeps coming back to this screen. Everything on google that I've found so far seems to be about custom installs, but this is just the base HA.

cinder marsh Oct 24, 2022, 1:41 AM

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@edgy abyss try #yellow-archived

edgy abyss Oct 24, 2022, 1:42 AM

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Will do, thanks!

manic bane Oct 24, 2022, 8:11 AM

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If you think HAOS is hostile then supervised is worse. It's HAOS except you have to maintain everything

bitter rover Oct 24, 2022, 10:06 AM

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I just upgraded from RaspberryPI 3 to a NUC - did a backup restore of the HA, configure the same static IPs, and everything works perfectly... except my remote access from the external networks (which worked on PI). Any ideas what could be the problem?

abstract bison Oct 24, 2022, 11:12 AM

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Hi, i've been stuck on installation for over an hour with

INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete

Is it normal? Do i have to wait more

unique edge Oct 24, 2022, 2:14 PM

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My laptop with debian and HA supervised died at last. Can I restore my backup directly to an RPI and expect it to work or should i start fresh? 🙂

humble mirage Oct 24, 2022, 2:36 PM

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Yes, it should work fine

crude inlet Oct 24, 2022, 2:36 PM

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@unique edge the config directory including all hidden directories is what you need

bronze anvil Oct 24, 2022, 3:11 PM

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unique edge My laptop with debian and HA supervised died at last. Can I restore my backup di...

@unique edge, for a data point, I just put a new SSD in my system, and installed HAOS 9.2. When it booted up it asked is I wanted to create a new user or restore from a backup. The restore worked perfectly - it included everything from my previous system - configuration.yaml, addons, etc. etc. From what I could tell nothing was missing.

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Going from an Intel machine (I assume) to a ARM (RPi) will likely be different as the addons will be backed up for the wrong architecture.

humble mirage Oct 24, 2022, 3:15 PM

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It's just the config that's backed up, not the software

unique edge Oct 24, 2022, 4:33 PM

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Thanks all will do it soon and let you know how it turend out

vagrant heath Oct 24, 2022, 6:01 PM

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flat wyvern if it helps i can show you the home assistant part of my docker config file

Cheers, I appreciate all the help, but i finally got there

safe wagon Oct 24, 2022, 6:35 PM

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Hello All! 1st time here ^^. I have quite strange problem - I have HA installation working on Virtual Machine on Qnap. Worked well since last few months but suddenly it stop “hanging” and no idea what is going on. Only restart VM help. Any idea what I’ve should check/do?

lone pendant Oct 24, 2022, 7:36 PM

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hey yall, i have a problem with HA in an env... for over a year, I can't reboot from the GUI. It just hangs. Logs so nothing, they just freeze too

wooden smelt Oct 24, 2022, 7:42 PM

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@lone pendant post the contents of your homeassistant.service file

lone pendant Oct 24, 2022, 7:43 PM

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just rebooted, will post in a sec. I can do a sudo service homeassistant restart and it works fine

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https://paste.debian.net/1258148/

wooden smelt Oct 24, 2022, 7:45 PM

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Add RestartForceExitStatus=100 under the [Service] section

lone pendant Oct 24, 2022, 7:47 PM

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thanks, testing

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just issued the researt in HA GUI

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It worked! thanks @wooden smelt

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I'll read the man on system.d but what's that do?

wooden smelt Oct 24, 2022, 7:55 PM

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https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/65450

lone pendant Oct 24, 2022, 7:58 PM

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TYVM

minor perch Oct 24, 2022, 8:09 PM

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HA is borked on Virtual Box for me. Keeps spewing on start up "A start job is running for Docker Application Container Engine" and will go forever

rustic sable Oct 24, 2022, 11:45 PM

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My Supervisor Installation is loading more than 20min is there any Log File?

manic bane Oct 24, 2022, 11:50 PM

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rustic sable My Supervisor Installation is loading more than 20min is there any Log File?

Supervised or HAOS

rustic sable Oct 24, 2022, 11:50 PM

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Supervised but i try now the OS

copper steppe Oct 24, 2022, 11:58 PM

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@rustic sable did you click the spinning blob thing and see the logs?

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It downloads a bunch of stuff, docker images and whatever, which takes a while depending on your internet.

rustic sable Oct 25, 2022, 12:02 AM

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ow okay

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now its clear 😉

proper latch Oct 25, 2022, 12:37 AM

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Any tips for issues timing out while downloading the files? I fixed the issue with no DNS server, but the files won't download due to timeout

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Looks like I can't attach a picture. But its can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux64-homeazsistant:2022.10.5 : 500 server error

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Hmm, when I rebooted the dns was gone, so thats the 500 server error I'm getting right now

tall ginkgo Oct 25, 2022, 2:26 AM

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hey guys im trying to add a minostrone smart switch to Zwave JS UI and i have it in "provisioning entities" but how do I get it actually added? Inclusion mode doesn't work. i have other devices working fine in zwave js

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I added it by uploading a pic of the QR code but not sure what to do after that step?

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 6:29 AM

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I added it by uploading a pic of the QR

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 6:32 AM

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Hello! Please tell me how to make the input be at the address without specifying the port. Now, when going to an address like home.home.ru, the site opens an authorization page and during authorization hangs on the page "Unable to connect to Home Assistant. Retrying in 57 seconds ..." and so on endlessly, but when going to an address like home.home .ru:8123 opens everything is fine.

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 6:34 AM

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You need to ensure you've forwarded port 443 (I hope you're using HTTPS) to port 8123 on the HA host

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 6:36 AM

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I have Apache2, should it be redirected in it or in HA itself?

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 6:36 AM

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Are you using Apache as a reverse proxy?

humble scaffoldBOT Oct 25, 2022, 6:40 AM

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@coarse grove I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 6:40 AM

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Ok, that's you using it as a reverse proxy

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So, the connections should go:

443 on router -> 443 on Apache
Apache connects to 8123 on HA

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Check that (1) is configured, and then check the Apache logs for any errors/warnings, and the HA logs for any errors/warnings

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 6:41 AM

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All requests from the router go to the server with the address 192.168.1.2

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In the apache error log, I see the given

[Tue Oct 25 11:34:21.686420 2022] [proxy: error] [pid 110913] [client 188.226.21.24:55478] AH00898: Error reading from remote server returned by /service_worker.js, referrer: https:// home. home.ru/service_worker.js

cinder marsh Oct 25, 2022, 6:51 AM

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is that a space after https:// ?

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 6:53 AM

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Check the access log too

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 6:56 AM

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cinder marsh is that a space after https:// ?

No

cinder marsh Oct 25, 2022, 7:00 AM

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looks like it in the error..

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:00 AM

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humble mirage Check the access log too

There is nothing in access.log regarding home.home.ru, only spam from bots

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[Tue Oct 25 11:58:19.331414 2022] [proxy_http:error] [pid 128768] (20014)Internal error (specific information not available): [client 188.226.21.24:55830] AH01102: error reading status line from remote server localhost:8123, referer: https://home.home.ru/service_worker.js
[Tue Oct 25 11:58:19.331452 2022] [proxy:error] [pid 128768] [client 188.226.21.24:55830] AH00898: Error reading from remote server returned by /service_worker.js, referer: https://home.home.ru/service_worker.js

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:02 AM

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If there's nothing at all about you accessing it remotely then you need to investigate that side

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Either:

Your ISP blocks port 443 inbound
You didn't set up port forwarding
Something's blocking it on the host running Apache
etc

last coral Oct 25, 2022, 7:09 AM

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yeah, the access logs should show something

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if not, its simply not getting to apache by the looks of it

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i went through all of this, then just decided to get the nabu casa thing, because it was easier, and gave me other benefits

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:11 AM

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The fact is that when you enter at the address http://home.home.ru or when you follow the link https://home.home.ru, you go to the address https://home.home.ru/lovelace and the form opens login, after entering the credentials, the page "Cannot connect to Home Assistant.

Retrying in 44 seconds..."

And if you add a port to the address, that is, the address will be of the form http://home.home.ru:8123 or https://home.home.ru:8123, that is, to the address https://home.home.ru:8123 /lovelace/default_view and everything works great.

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:11 AM

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Then you've also forwarded 8123 directly to HA I bet

last coral Oct 25, 2022, 7:12 AM

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are you sure https is enabled in HA?

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:12 AM

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It should not be enabled in HA if you're going through a proxy

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The first error suggests that maybe you've not (correctly) set up Websocket support in Apache

last coral Oct 25, 2022, 7:12 AM

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oh yeah, sorry, he is doing a proxy

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my bad

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i did both a proxy, and proper https setups.. then didnt use either lol

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:14 AM

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last coral are you *sure* https is enabled in HA?

No. Tell me how to check? Tell me how to check? I have such an inscription in the HA network settings
"You have configured an HTTPS certificate in Home Assistant. This means that your internal URL must match the domain that the certificate applies to."

last coral Oct 25, 2022, 7:14 AM

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well, there we have it

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:14 AM

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Look in configuration.yaml at http://

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There should not be two lines about ssl_

last coral Oct 25, 2022, 7:14 AM

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my stupid comment may have just solved it lol

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:14 AM

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It was a good thing to ask about

humble scaffoldBOT Oct 25, 2022, 7:15 AM

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@coarse grove I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt

last coral Oct 25, 2022, 7:16 AM

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yeah, those SSL lines will cause an issue

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:16 AM

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  ssl_certificate: /ssl/fullchain.pem
  ssl_key: /ssl/privkey.pem
  server_port: 8123
``` remove those three lines

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:16 AM

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humble mirage ``` ssl_certificate: /ssl/fullchain.pem ssl_key: /ssl/privkey.pem server_p...

1 sec

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:16 AM

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coarse grove 1 sec

last coral Oct 25, 2022, 7:18 AM

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did you just ping him, telling him to not ping? 😛

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:18 AM

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Yes

last coral Oct 25, 2022, 7:18 AM

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lol

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:18 AM

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I find it tends to get noticed more 😉

last coral Oct 25, 2022, 7:18 AM

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i find that amusing

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but i guess it works

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:18 AM

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People are otherwise oblivious

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I mean, they're often that regardless, but ...

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:23 AM

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humble mirage ``` ssl_certificate: /ssl/fullchain.pem ssl_key: /ssl/privkey.pem server_p...

Removed the lines you provided

Now it doesn't go to the page.

Hanging on Unable to connect to Home Assistant.

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:24 AM

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You should be able to connect locally using http://192.168.0.42:8132/ (with the right IP, obviously)

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Also, what install method are you using? Home Assistant OS, Container, pure Core (pip install)?

low notch Oct 25, 2022, 7:25 AM

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you see a cached page, clear the cache and you will see a proxy error

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:25 AM

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humble mirage Also, what install method are you using? Home Assistant OS, Container, pure Core...

I can connect from the network without problems. Installation via Docker

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:30 AM

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low notch you see a cached page, clear the cache and you will see a proxy error

Does not help

low notch Oct 25, 2022, 7:30 AM

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but you dont see homeassistant anymore right?

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next step would be to change your proxy to request http:// instead of https://

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:31 AM

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coarse grove I can connect from the network without problems. Installation via Docker

Then your proxy configuration shouldn't be using localhost

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:31 AM

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low notch but you dont see homeassistant anymore right?

I go to the page and see the site, but I can’t go further, the inscription hangs all the time

"Unable to connect to Home Assistant.

Retrying in 34 seconds..."

low notch Oct 25, 2022, 7:32 AM

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use a different browser

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:32 AM

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Also, replace localhost in these lines:

   ProxyPass / http://localhost:8123/
   ProxyPassReverse / http://localhost:8123/

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:34 AM

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humble mirage Also, replace `localhost` in these lines: ``` ProxyPass / http://localhost:81...

What to change?

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:34 AM

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Use the IP of the computer running HA

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localhost behaves strangely when you're using Docker, it may not do what you expect

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:36 AM

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humble mirage `localhost` behaves strangely when you're using Docker, it may not do what you e...

I understand correctly, if the server address on the local network is 192.168.1.3, then specify this address instead of localhost?

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:36 AM

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Yes

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:37 AM

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humble mirage Yes

There is also a Doker address like 172.30.., is it not needed?

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 7:38 AM

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Just use the host IP

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:46 AM

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humble mirage Just use the host IP

Changed, with 10 steps I managed to go to the address http://home.home.ru:8123

In other attempts the same situation.

With https, the login form appeared once, but during authorization it was again thrown to the error page

low notch Oct 25, 2022, 7:50 AM

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only forward port 443 on your firewall to your proxy

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install the cert on your proxy server

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and have the proxy point to http://

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:50 AM

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Currently, I am authorized through http://home.home.ru:8123 and I can move around the system, but when I go to the file editor, I get an error 401: Unauthorized

low notch Oct 25, 2022, 7:50 AM

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exposing http:// is bad

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 7:52 AM

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low notch only forward port 443 on your firewall to your proxy

There is a certificate
Seems to have redirected everything

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This line should contain the port? RewriteCond %{SERVER_NAME} =home.home.ru:8123 in home.conf? Should be the same entry in home-le-ssl.conf?

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 8:00 AM

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low notch only forward port 443 on your firewall to your proxy

I have made settings in Apache, installed a certificate using certbot for the home.home.ru domain

low notch Oct 25, 2022, 8:00 AM

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you should not need that line

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only ```
ProxyPass / http://localhost:8123/
ProxyPassReverse / http://localhost:8123/

and... give me a sec

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ah yeh, dont use localhost I just copied your config from above

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      RewriteEngine on
      RewriteCond %{HTTP:Upgrade} =websocket [NC]
      RewriteRule /(.*)  ws://HAIP:8123/$1 [P,L]
      RewriteCond %{HTTP:Upgrade} !=websocket [NC]

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replace HAIP with yours

humble scaffoldBOT Oct 25, 2022, 8:09 AM

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@coarse grove I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 8:09 AM

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So?

low notch Oct 25, 2022, 8:11 AM

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I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve with the <Location /> ?

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pretty sure thats not going to work

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 8:11 AM

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/reverse-proxy-with-apache/196942 may help

humble scaffoldBOT Oct 25, 2022, 8:34 AM

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@coarse grove I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt

low notch Oct 25, 2022, 8:35 AM

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what error do you see?

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 8:37 AM

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I have installed Openhub, which works on port 8080, there are no problems with it, it opens at openhub.home.ru without specifying the port and any problems.

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 8:37 AM

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low notch what error do you see?

Unable to connect to Home Assistant.

Retrying in 21 seconds...

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 8:38 AM

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coarse grove I have installed Openhub, which works on port 8080, there are no problems with i...

Right, and when you forwarded directly to HA you also had no issues. Your problem is because you're trying to set up Apache as a reverse proxy, and you apparently don't know what you're doing...

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Is there a reason you're trying to use Apache like this?

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 8:40 AM

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I also have a torrent and nextcloud installed, which work without problems over a domain name with https without specifying a port, and only Home Assistante is harmful.

low notch Oct 25, 2022, 8:41 AM

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is home-le-ssl.conf even active?

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you should see something happening in the (apache)logs

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 8:44 AM

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humble mirage Is there a reason you're trying to use Apache like this?

You are absolutely right, I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing. I installed nextcloud, openhub, and more, and used the same apache file configuration in /etc/apache2/sites-available to access addresses like nextcloud.home.ru or openhow.home.ru . Using the same method, I made access to the Home Assistant, but something went wrong.

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 8:46 AM

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You need to go back to the basics that have been mentioned many times above

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Does the domain resolve to your WAN IP?
Do the Apache access logs show anything?

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Until both of those are true you haven't even reached the part about getting Apache to talk to HA

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 8:48 AM

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There is nothing related to home.home.ru in the logs.

Now I go to the site at http://home.home.ru or https://home.home.ru, the link changes to https://home.home.ru/lovelace and I see

Unable to connect to Home Assistant.

Retrying in 35 seconds...

low notch Oct 25, 2022, 8:49 AM

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I'll say CACHE every time you post Unable to connect to Home Assistant. Retrying... from now

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 8:55 AM

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humble mirage Until both of those are true you haven't even reached the part about getting Apa...

Now I can get to the sites openhub.home.ru, nextcloud.home.ru, home.ru, as well as via external and external IP, including Home Assistante at the external address IP:8123 without any problems.

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 8:56 AM

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low notch I'll say _CACHE_ every time you post `Unable to connect to Home Assistant. Retry...

I always refresh the page with Clear Cache and Hard Reload

humble scaffoldBOT Oct 25, 2022, 8:57 AM

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@coarse grove I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt

low notch Oct 25, 2022, 8:57 AM

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tried a different browser yet?

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 8:59 AM

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Only IE, dont work

low notch Oct 25, 2022, 8:59 AM

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#installation-archived message

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 9:01 AM

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Now I will install Opera and Firefox

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Oh, I went through Opera without any problems, but only http

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 9:07 AM

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Ignore port 8123, you need to focus on 443 and Apache

manic bane Oct 25, 2022, 9:07 AM

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coarse grove Now I can get to the sites openhub.home.ru, nextcloud.home.ru, home.ru, as well ...

Are those sites also using a reverse proxy with apache?

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 9:08 AM

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If https://home.home.ru doesn't work then:

The port forwarding is wrong
Your ISP blocks port 443
Apache isn't configured right
etc etc etc ... all the stuff I've said already

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 9:08 AM

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I went through firefox without problems, with a certificate warning

manic bane Oct 25, 2022, 9:08 AM

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coarse grove I went through firefox without problems, with a certificate warning

For https://home.home.ru?

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You need to answer the questions clearly, just talking down your own rabbit hole will lead to either a) people giving up or b) people becoming frustrated, or both

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 9:12 AM

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Accesses through https in Opera and Firefox, but says that the certificate is not valid.

humble mirage Oct 25, 2022, 9:14 AM

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Exactly what does it say?

humble scaffoldBOT Oct 25, 2022, 9:14 AM

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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

coarse grove Oct 25, 2022, 9:22 AM

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humble mirage _Exactly_ what does it say?

Site connection is not secure

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Warning: Potential security risk

Firefox detected a possible security risk and did not open home.home.ru. If you visit this site, hackers may try to steal your information such as passwords, email addresses, or bank card details.

How can you fix it?

Most likely, this problem is related to the website itself, and there is nothing you can do about it. You can report this issue to the website administrator.