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slate python
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I have ordered a kit with CM4 and nvme, following the instructions on https://yellow.home-assistant.io/power-supply-nvme/. I did install the CM4 (it did click-in), installed the pads and the heat sing, installed NVMe. Created USB flash drive, plugged in, plugged in the Ethernet cable, power, but it does not install, It gets stuck on the yellow LED hearbeat. I connected the USB cable to my computer and run screen. It seems to stop on Welcome to Buildroot
yellow-installer login:. This is the log. Any idea where is the problem? Thanks!

wary pivot
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What NVMe are you using?

slate python
trail dirge
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that's a Samsung one if it's from the Danish store

slate python
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Yes, Europe 🙂

wary pivot
trail dirge
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I have the same kit and mine works

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fwiw

slate python
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ok, but i do not have windows

wary pivot
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From the point rpiboot is installed, the HA guide applies again

slate python
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What is the USB Slave Port Enable? Shall I move the jumper from UART to USB position?

wary pivot
slate python
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Waiting for BCM2835/6/7/2711...
Loading embedded: bootcode4.bin
Sending bootcode.bin
Successful read 4 bytes
Waiting for BCM2835/6/7/2711...
Loading embedded: bootcode4.bin
Second stage boot server
Cannot open file config.txt
Cannot open file pieeprom.sig
Loading embedded: start4.elf
File read: start4.elf
Cannot open file fixup4.dat
Second stage boot server done```
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It cannot open fixup4.dat

wary pivot
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Have you pressed the SW3 button on powerup?

slate python
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USB3-Rcvry? Yes. The red LED was on

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And I see it

wary pivot
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Okay. Continue the recovery. As no OS has been installed, those files aren't present on the CM4 (it is a Lite, so the confix.txt will never be on the CM4 🤔 )

slate python
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Ok, done ./rpiboot -d recovery. What next? I am kind of lost in the instructions - one page refers to another, and they are generic, so most of them do not apply 😦

wary pivot
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After a few minutes remove the power, set JP1 to UART and try again to install the OS with the USB installer.

slate python
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I thought I'd open Raspberry Pi Imager and do it from there. But I do not see the RPi-MSD from there

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Ok

wary pivot
slate python
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It did not work

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I am running the Option 2

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Got to point 8. (done it before, it shows Cannot open file fixup4.dat).

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After this is finished, red and green LEDs are on

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I go to Raspberry Pi imager, but I do not see the RPi-MSD storage

wary pivot
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Does it show the NVMe as mass storage in your OS?

slate python
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no

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I see trhe BCM2711 Boot device though

wary pivot
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Do you have a NVMe to USB adapter? that way, you could flash the installer directly to the NVMe

slate python
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No, I don't

trail dirge
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Probably a dumb question but are you sure the NVMe is seated correctly?

slate python
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I tried taking it out and put it back in. It is inserted fully and then pushed down and secured with the screw. So I guess it is.

trail dirge
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and you put it in at a ~45° angle, then pushed it down?

slate python
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Yes

wary pivot
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And are you sure, it is a Samsung NVMe in your Yellow? 🤔

trail dirge
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Ok, I hope you don't think I think you're an idiot or something, just wanted to be 100% sure

slate python
trail dirge
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tracks with mine

slate python
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Let me think. I have a Trebleet hub, that has a slot for SSD card. So if put it in there, I shoudl be able to install it from the installer like that. Would that work?

trail dirge
slate python
trail dirge
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I'm harping on it but your NVMe doesn't look like it's seated in the lower bit of the screw. I doubt a millimeter would make a difference, though

wary pivot
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CM4 Lites are a bit of a pain in the bottom.

slate python
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It should be seated under the nut, or in the groove in the nut?

trail dirge
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In the groove

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but like I said, that shouldn't make a difference

wary pivot
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In the groove in the nut. The bigger ridge facing down.

trail dirge
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I had one stuck with double-sided tape in a different thing for years with no problem

trail dirge
slate python
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Ok, so I installed the installer for Yellow to the SSD, it boots, but I pretty much get to the same point. It shows Welcome to Buildroot, yellow-installer login: and it is stuck there.

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Am I choosing the right image from the RPI Imager?

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Other Specific Purpose/Home Assistant and Home Automation/Home Assistant/Home Assistant OS Installer for Yellow

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Or shall I get Home Assistant OS 10.1 (RPPi 4/400)?

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...on the SDD

trail dirge
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No, "for Yellow" is right

wary pivot
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The Installer image is the right one. Does the heartbeat LED start to flash?

trail dirge
slate python
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No, it is not me

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Is the installer using DNS servers it gets from DHCP? My ISP might block some DNS servers - there is nothing I can do about that. So I am thinking if you haven't hard-coded them?

wary pivot
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It uses the DHCP DNS and if that fails, it tries 1.1.1.1

slate python
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Ok, it gets them and 1.1.1.1 is also permited without limitation

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So I am stuck.

trail dirge
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have you tried option 1 of reinstalling, with the USB stick?

slate python
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Yes. And it is now installed on the SSD and it boots fine. It just does not instal. It gets stuck on the login:

trail dirge
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also seeing

I had the same problem. What worked for me was to run rpiboot -d secure-boot-msd and then flash the eMMC with HA-yellow

slate python
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When I type root and enter, it logs me in

trail dirge
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does it show up on your router at this point? can you connect to homeassistant.local?

slate python
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Can I start the instakll from there?

trail dirge
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I think the install only starts when you start it from the web UI

slate python
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Yes, it shows on the router/DHCP server

trail dirge
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try going to http://<ip>:8123

slate python
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I did

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Does not show

wary pivot
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@trail dirge That only works AFTER a successful installation - not with the installer running

trail dirge
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the only thing I'm seeing is that the CM4 might be configured to boot off something else

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what if you tried an earlier version of the OS?

wary pivot
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That doesn't matter, as the OS is not installed yet.

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And as the installer is running from NVMe, the boot order isn't the issue

slate python
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Ok, will install the image directly

wary pivot
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Important is to choose the Yellow image, not the RPi4 one.

trail dirge
slate python
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Ok, so installed that one. Now I can go to homeassistant.local:8123 and it show Preparing Home Assistant

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Thanks for your help

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The state it is right now, is it the same as if I'd get the "standard" option from the shop? Or would it have the installer on it?

trail dirge
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As I understand it, the standard one has HA pre-installed

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I've signed up for like 7 stock notifications for an 8GB CM4 though, 2GB is not enough to run ESPHome

coarse cobalt
trail dirge
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Raspberry Pi CEO confirms that it's products will be back in stock starting Q3.

compact quartz
trail dirge
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agreed, I'd really like a Pi Zero 2W

brazen jewel
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I've got a home assistant yellow, but don't have a CM4 yet - is there a recommended minimum model I should be looking to get?

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Ah, found the FAQ entry

wary pivot
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If possible, get more than 2GB of RAM.

trail dirge
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Yeah, 2 is unfortunately paltry

stray atlas
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I have an 8GB version though actual running is only around 1.3GB it will actually use closer to 6GB with Caching and Buffers

hidden garnet
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How can I use the line out (J5) on the Yellow? Things like tts.speak and media_player.play_media want a media player entity, and I don't have a media player entity that could feasibly point at that port.

wary pivot
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The VLC add-on and integration can be used as a local media player. But I'm not sure, if TTS will work.

hidden garnet
wary pivot
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I mean the VLC add-on. When that one is up and running, the integration VLC media player via Telnet can connect HA to that add-on. But according to the documentation only the media type music is supported. The media browser shows TTS, even it should not be supported - but I haven't tried it yet.

hidden garnet
wary pivot
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I would suggest to give the add-on some time to start, to restart HA and to try the autodiscovered integration again

hidden garnet
# wary pivot I would suggest to give the add-on some time to start, to restart HA and to try ...

I had previously tried changing things and restarting HA a couple times to no avail. Restarting the add-on without restarting HA and then configuring it via the new detection (previous detection was already gone from failure) after the logs showed telnet listening and before they started showing muticast info did the trick. Not sure if the multicast stuff the logs showed before restart was relevant to my issue or not, but I have the VLC-telnet entity now. Won't be in a position to test it for a while, but thanks for the help.

sacred bloom
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Hey, i thought its smooth to activate ZHA and use the Yellow Zigbee Moduel in parallel to my Z2M Integration with a Conbee 2 Stick to migrate one device after the other. But the Integration fails to start. I thought it should be possible as the internal Zigbee and the Conbee 2 are different radio types on different channels?

hidden garnet
hidden garnet
dapper grotto
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Quick Q: has anyone repurposed the Yellow as a more general purpose Pi? (I know this defeats the core purpose, but...) If so, can you run Rasp OS Desktop with an external monitor, given there is no HDMI port?

wary pivot
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If you solder on a HDMI port... But it wouldn't make much sense to do that, just to run Raspbian on it. With stock Raspbian you wouldn't be able to use the Zigbee radio and more. There are much more suitable hardware solutions for a Desktop.

hexed roost
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Maybe use xrdp or vnc to remote into it?

honest rover
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You’ll have an easier time with any of the various normal IO boards and probably make someone’s day by selling a hard to get item

stark furnace
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What is the best way to get home assistant yellow in the Netherlands?

wary pivot
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Just don't buy that Intenso SATA SSD for the Yellow

languid pulsar
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Graphed the HA Yellow RPi CPU temp with the top cover of the Yellow on vs off. Adding the cover increases the CPU temp by about 10 C. Still within the safe range, but makes me wonder if I should try to add additional vent holes. https://photos.app.goo.gl/FfJKvBrufximsEDt6

coarse cobalt
shy saffron
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Hi. My Yellow appears to have stopped working at around 02:30/03:00 this morning. I wasn't able to connect to local or cloudflared URL, or via PuTTY, so I removed the PoE cable and plugged it back in again. Seems to back up again but how may I check what might have occurred? The logs for Core, Supervisor, etc. only seem to include information from after the reboot.

wary pivot
wary pivot
shy saffron
ivory minnow
deep trail
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Which CM4 would be the best for someone who wants to start with their HomeAssistant journey with a HomeAssistant Yellow? Right now I'd just have some Phillips Hue lights and a 3D Printer that I'd like to monitor using HomeAssistant if possible

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Eventually I'd want to expand over time, but my wife and I will be doing apartment living for a few years.

trail dirge
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if you're planning to use anything esphome, 2GB memory is not enough

deep trail
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What's ESPhome?

drifting karma
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Has anyone had issues getting serial to work on a yellow? I'd tried to hook the console up to a raritan serial port with no joy.... have now tried SEVERAL different usb-c-serial "adapters/interfaces" connected to multiple hosts (macos/linux) in an attempt to get some form of a usable tty out of it.... but thus far, no joy.... I'm sure I'm just moronic, and everyone else is having 0 problems with this 🙂

FWIW, I've been a unix admin since the early 90's.... so I'm at least moderately familiar with shells an ttys n other such fun insanity

languid pulsar
drifting karma
drifting karma
languid pulsar
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Basically, there's already a serial to USB chip on the Yellow board. So you just need to connect a normal USB cable with an end of your choosing to that port and you're hooking into the USB to serial chip.

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This is pretty typical for modern "serial" ports since they assume no one has their own USB to serial converters anymore.

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So the converter is generally baked into the device itself.

drifting karma
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sure... I'd tried various SERIAL rj45-usbc adapters (the raritan's serial ports are all rj45) and none of them worked at all... so I'd assumed I needed something else.

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never thought to try just plugging it into a usb port on a host tho. that'd be.... too obvious 😉 facepalm ... course, it doesn't solve the console-server problem, but it'd at least be a step towards functional

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goes an tries it now coz he's curious

drifting karma
# drifting karma **goes an tries it now coz he's curious**

yeah. plug a USB3 -> USB-C cable from a pi4 usb port to the usb-c 'console' port and I get a ttyusb dev.... sigh that..... sigh makes me feel like an utter idiot. I've bought 4 different usb-c -> serial adapters, several other incarnations of adapers.... none of which worked... I'm.... stupid.

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thanks for pointing out the obvious @languid pulsar (seriously, I mean that) .... course... now I jus gotta figure out how to get coerce the raritan console to see it as a legit tty... but that at least gives me a functional starting point to go from.

lyric pike
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Why can't I set up yellow zigbee integration? I just started to use yellow + cm4, and I'm trying to setup build in zigbee module. But, after I click "setup" button, it said "unknown error occurred", And in log, its said "[aiohttp.server] Error handling request"

trail dirge
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ZHA is the one that works for me

languid pulsar
lyric pike
olive violet
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Just got my HAY - And I have zigbee problems

opaque summit
tawdry forge
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Hello, I have a question. How do I flash directly to the nvme using home assistant yellow? is there any specific instructions?

coarse cobalt
tawdry forge
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@opaque summit I just went through all the steps, but the red and green leds are solid is this correct? also I can't see any logs in the UART console

opaque summit
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pretty sure the green led should be flashing; uart output depends on the bootloader. i'd double check the cm4 is properly seated if the rpiboot masstorage presented you with a drive to flash but it fails to boot. if that doesnt help, then maybe the bootloader is too old to boot from nvme and needs updating (which is described in https://yellow.home-assistant.io/guides/flash-cm4-firmware/)

worn surge
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Hey guys, I'm new to Home Assistant Yellow, I'm facing a problem:

  • I try to reinstall the OS (I forget the ssh password, so I think this way would help me connect it)
  • Using a Raspberry imager to download a haos_rpi4-64-10.1.img.xz , I plug it in.

untill now, it's still just showing the RED led, even when I flash a new OS for Yellow in Raspberry imager.

dusky hollow
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If I'm an advanced Pi user, don't need zigbee, and can handle getting my HA OS onto an m.2 or SSD myself, is there any other things I'd be giving up by using a Pi system I already have vs. a Yellow?

wary pivot
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@dusky hollow No, you wouldn't give up anything else.

opaque summit
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built in rtc, poe and the conveient usbc serial console; but you can replicate that if you want it. (i guess native nvme you'll need to be using a CM4)

atomic sundial
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Just getting started with HA/Yellow. I’m about to buy the CM4…should I get the model with the wireless?

fleet cloud
wary pivot
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And ESPHome Bluetooth proxies are more reliable than the wireless' Bluetooth radio.

trail dirge
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Here's a possibly dumb question: with a bluetooth proxy, is a bluetooth dongle on the device itself even necessary?

wary pivot
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On the Yellow / HA host device? No, it isn't necessary.

worldly rivet
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Hi, quick question. Can a PoE Yellow be hooked up to a non-PoE port with the DC power adaptor connected?

I was facing network issues (constant yellow led) when installing the HA OS.

wary pivot
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Yes, it can. You can even connect it to both. In that case the 12V power adapter takes priority.

drifting karma
worldly rivet
still tendon
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I have a sky connect and a yellow. Is it possible to leave the yellow as zha, and do matter / thread on the sky connect?

wary pivot
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Yes. Install the Open Thread add-on and configure it to use the Skyconnect.

old haven
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And Skyconnect should then run the thread firmware

wary pivot
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The add-on setting "Automatically flash firmware" worked for me too.

pearl slate
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Just got my yellow. Restored from backup and everything has been great except remote access. Had to reinstall duckdns and nginx. Duckdns is working but nginx us shutting down snd here is the log. Any help would be appreciated.

dreamy spruceBOT
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@wispy warren I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

wispy warren
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(Reposting since the bot made it awkward to read.) I got a Home Assistant Yellow a couple months back, and out of the box it was working fine, I had it on my network and paired some Zigbee switches. Then one day, it dropped off the network. I tried the usual stuff: factory reset, different router ports, new network cable, reseated the CM4. When I connect to it with screen I notice that the letter "o" is not drawing in all the text, including when I'm typing. Any ideas?

dreamy spruceBOT
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@wispy warren I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

harsh relic
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👋 Is there any official way to bump the gpu memory in the yellow?

shut cedar
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With gpu_mem=32 we pretty much went minimum in config.txt since there is no HDMI. What do you use GPU memory for?

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You can edit /mnt/boot/config.txt through the OS SSH access (port 22222)

harsh relic
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I'm trying to get hw acceleration working in frigate

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Are the current values (defaults) shown anywhere? It'd be great if these things can be changed from the UI.
My HA is not really easily reachable and to add the key is a bit of a PITA tbh.

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In the meantime I will try to import the key

shut cedar
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Yeah true. So far there was not really an use case to adjust those, but we have a way to expose such config.txt in UI today (e.g. the LED settings are exposed that way)

harsh relic
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Where do I sign to add the gpu mem to the list? 🙂

shut cedar
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I'd say, it only really make sense if Frigate has support using the GPU (and increasing GPU memory acutally makes a difference) 😅

harsh relic
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Totally agreed. Existing evidence seems to suggest that's the case but I will give it a go and report back.
Thank you for your help! 🙇

wary pivot
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@harsh relic I assume you are not using a Coral TPU?

harsh relic
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Not yet. It is not clear from reading around whether it works with the HA yellow.

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I do plan to buy one but that'd be only for detection (and not decoding).

wary pivot
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The m.2 is not working with the Yellow. The USB one should be in theory, but I haven't been able to get it working reliably yet.

harsh relic
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That's my understanding as well but I've seen people complaining about the USB adapter too

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Saying that works for a short bit before failing

dusky hollow
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I'm interested in running bind9 on my Yellow, and don't mind either running natively or via Docker- will updates to the software on the Yellow break either approach? The goal is to have the Yellow be the only device on in my house overnight. Thanks!

shut cedar
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You'd need an add-on, not sure if one exists for bind9. There is dnsmasq, maybe that does the job for your case?

dusky hollow
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that should work fine- I am curious though- is it feasible to load things on the OS directly and not through HA on the Yellow?

harsh relic
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You could try adguard home too

wintry stream
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Is there a way to see if the CM4 wifi is enabled inside the yellow from terminal add on?

shut cedar
wintry stream
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Gotcha I am just wondering if my yellows cm4 has wifi on even while being connected to Ethernet

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Or if it shuts off automatically

shut cedar
teal basin
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Has anyone seen any issues with the yellow running HAOS not detecting Toshiba M.2 SSD? Did a fresh instal of HAOS yesterday and wiped the SSD tried once formatted as ntfs and one non formatted. I’m trying to move the HAOS install on the CM4 to the SSD. Windows machine sees the drive fine but the yellow doesn’t

wary pivot
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Is that Toshiba SSD a SATA m.2 or a NVMe one?

teal basin
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NVME

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KSG60ZMV512G

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Nvm m.2 sata

compact quartz
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Sata no go

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That's an m.2 sata and not nvme

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You can think of m.2 as how it fits physically. sata or nvme are the protocol for communication. sata is older for traditional drives. nvme is newer, faster. So your drive fits, but isn't recognized

teal basin
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Dam I was hoping it would be compatible. Easy enough then I didn’t know if I fried something or if I needed to enable something in the yaml configs

turbid halo
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There is a list of NVMe SSDs that are known not to work in the yellow FAQ. You might want to check that before purchasing anything. I can add that Micron 7450 also does not work.

tiny drift
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Is 32gb on the CM4 enough to run homeassistant if z2m and zwavejs will be running on a separate PI? Or should I just get an M.2 ssd?

sleek cape
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Hi guys! Just received my yellow today. And I'm pulling my hairs out after about 3 or 4 hours trying to install HA on it. I just can't get past the darn heartbeat. I've searched all over the web, followed many tips but nothing works. Tried different USBs, rpiboot, nothing works. I ordered a yellow with a CM4 lite with no internal memory, an ssd nvme with 250gb 970 evo Samsung. The Yellow is a PoE, but i'm usint the power adapter for now. And i can't seem to install the darn OS. Anyone had the same issue?

shut cedar
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The Heartbeat is usually during bootup, before network connectivity is reached

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It seems that there is an issue with network connectivity (cannot reach DNS/NTP).

sleek cape
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I've found something about flashing firmware to a new cm4 module. Testin if that is the issue

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I've tried the serial console part, but the com port for the yellow doesn't show up. It doesn't detect my board

eager mortar
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Has anyone received a yellow with pi recently? Surprised we haven't gotten an update since February.

tiny drift
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The 8gb RAM cm4 is out of stock now though

sleek cape
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Does the ssd need to be in a specific format before installing it in the Yellow kit? I'm using a cm4 lite with no emmc memory and i can't install the darn OS

eager mortar
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Crowdsupply doesn't say what cm4 came with my order...

dusky hollow
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I’m planning on moving my HA from a Docker instance to a Yellow. I’m pretty sure I can just backup and restore the configuration to migrate, but does that bring over historical data like energy stats?

latent fern
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Yes, it's in the database

open urchin
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I ordered from seeed as well - took about a week. they ship direct from china

eager mortar
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That's kinda frustrating

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Ngl

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That crowdsupply isn't the first to have inventory and all orders fulfilled

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Especially cause you can't cancel it on crowdsupply

wary pivot
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You can, unless you are a Crowdfunder.

eager mortar
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I don't seem to have a cancel button on mine

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Where is that?

wary pivot
mild kindle
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I do often have bootloop issues. Sometimes they resolve themselves. I think some files might be corrupted on my nvme drive or so.

Is there a guide to troubleshoot bootlooping? What do you guys usually do?

Should I maybe delete the database and start fresh? Would that help>

mild kindle
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I do often have bootloop issues

wanton reef
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Hi everyone, I need some help with installation.

I followed the instructions in: https://yellow.home-assistant.io/power-supply, in step 10, the yellow LED never turns on, only the green and red LEDs are on.

then I tried to use rpiboot to "flash the Home Assistant OS Installer for Yellow onto the eMMC", and is write successfully but when I repeated step 10 without flash driver, I found the same thing happened to the LEDs, the yellow LED never turn on.

Does anyone know what I should do next? I've been struggling with this for hours.

wanton reef
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I found that the green LED will flash at a frequency of 4 long and 5 short after power on, I checked the LED Warning Flash Codes, this status is " Fatal firmware error", Does this mean anything?

wary pivot
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It means, the firmware has a fatal error.

lavish quail
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Hey, I am planning on migrating my HA instance to a home-assistant Yellow once they are generally available.
Right now I am using a Skyconnect, my plan is to attach the existing Skyconnect dongle to the Yellow (I think yellow already has this hardware onboard but I think the Skyconnect has better placement using an extension cable). Does anyone know if this would work? Is the Skyconnect compatible with the yellow?

dusk vortex
lavish quail
wanton reef
sleek cape
fallen patio
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After a "Start from Scratch" I'm not able to use my Zigbee, it gives this error in the Logfile: ERROR (MainThread) [aiohttp.server] Error handling request
Everything is up to date:
Home Assistant 2023.6.1
Operating System 10.2
Frontend: 20230608.0 - latest

Is there someone who can direct me to the solution?

wary pivot
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Has the radio been used in a previous installation with the Multiprotocol or Open Thread Border Router add-on?

compact quartz
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@sleek cape what brand/model was the problem router?

fallen patio
sleek cape
dusky hollow
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I just wanted to pop in and say that I ordered a kit from Seeed, but since it didn't come with Yellow installed I needed to follow the instructions. The instructions were easy to find, clear, and the migration was very, very smooth! Thank you to the folks who so quickly answered my questions here! Aside from a few bumps moving my MQTT broker from Docker to the add-on system, the whole process went well. Cheers!

white crescent
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Anyone knows if there is a way to turn of the blue led for the zigbee radio? Is there some si labs firmware version where we can turn it off?

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Anyone had yet tried to solder and external zigbee antenna on the board to improve range? Do we know hwo can be the external antenna enabled in the zigbee fw?

wary pivot
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You could cover it with some (black) electrical tape.

shut cedar
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Would be interesting if you see significant difference

hidden garnet
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I started running the VLC add-on to play audio out the line-out port of my Yellow last month on 2023.5.x, and it was working great, but after upgrading to 2023.6.1, I get no sound... I posted this in #add-ons-archived a couple days ago and saw no response, so I'm wondering if it's possibly yellow related and not affecting other devices...

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2023.6.2 did not resolve the issue, fwiw

hidden garnet
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errrm... A reboot fixed it. Restarts didn't, but a reboot did.

cyan trail
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I installed a 64GB nvme SSD that came out of my Steam Deck (I upgraded to a larger SSD) into my Home Assistant Yellow. It looks like the nvme is recognized by HA, but it also looks like there are multiple partitions on the drive (assuming since it came straight out of the Steam Deck). First, do I need to format the drive before I move my data disk to it? Second, if I do need to format it, is that something that can be done either directly via the HA interface or via SSH while the drive is installed in the Yellow?

compact quartz
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@cyan trail If you use the 'move data' method it would get formatted automatically

plush barn
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are you happy with your yellow? i'm moving to a house soon so i want a really robust setup

timid sable
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Just moved into new house and got my home assistant yellow, setting up everything and was just wondering if there's a guide or suggested installs / addons

pastel sonnet
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@sudden hatch I have checked in Amazon Developers section all seems ok, this is what I was thinking is it a small buggy issue I missed or put the wrong Url in? You videos are great! Best I seen all through me developing! Which is from ZX81 IS it the local url I put in or the one made in Cloudflare as I have bought a Domain from them to make things easier! I also don't have a https:// connection at home only thorugh Cloudflare one I have a https connection. Thanks for getting back to me! I also cannot upload files in Here any reasons why not?

wary pivot
rancid quartz
# plush barn are you happy with your yellow? i'm moving to a house soon so i want a really ro...

happy? yes, do I think its robust, sadly not yet, I've had mine lock up completely a few times and had to pull the power on it. Also some weird slow downs before it completely locked up. (POE version) In saying this, its not doing it often, just every now and again. The latest firmwares and OS/HA updates seems to have addressed some zigbee instabilities as well as I had to restart the OS to get the zigbee to work again every so often (haven't done so in a while now). Like most things should get better over time. I'm also using a brand new Samsung NVMe SSD for data and OS. If it can run for 6 months without needing a whole OS reboot I'll consider that robust. YMMV, could also be a bad HACS plugin etc dragging it down. Not had the energy/drive to go looking at journalctl logs yet and nothing telling in HA logs.

pastel sonnet
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@jorg not alot to be honest just no clue on Distro prefered packet news was not as confusing as this! And I tend not to use it that much I normaly fig it myself but on this occasion I cant and was told to post on Ha forum which I thought at the time was! But though Im here Im advice people to stay away from buying a Yellow its no more than a Raspberry pi and does not work at all no yellow light on mine! Taken 3 months to get to me to return it to China now and wait another 3 month for a refund i fI ever get one

harsh relic
wary pivot
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@pastel sonnet Sorry to hear you haven't been happy with your Yellow. The trouble I had was caused by a faulty NVMe - not stability issues after I have changed it. I'm mostly happy with my Yellow. Just the USB Coral for Frigate doesn't want to work with the Yellow, which is bugging me - as it was kind of implied in the crowdfunding updates.
But did you expect a Raspberry Pi powered device to have better performance than a Raspberry Pi?

pastel sonnet
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@wary pivot Its the company Im not happy with! They have not at all been helpful! And Im still trying to get it returned to them though I need it for medical reasons! I'm using a Raspberry pi3 which I dont think is up to Home assistant as everytime I try to get a https it slows down. I have also just lost all my entities too in Home assistant which I think is because the free month plan for Nabu as run out so this is why I have posted in the wrong places as I was asking for help on this from @sudden hatch to see why I connect connect from the Alexa App. I like the way the Yellow is but seems very short only having two usb to it I cannot comment any further as its never booted up from the start. I got the Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 - 8GB RAM, 32GB eMMC, 2.4/5.0GHz Wi-Fi & Bluetooth 5.0 which you would of thought they just sent out a new one to me to then get this one back to them but no they are doing it the long way! Got it from Seeed so I will not be using these again though they are the only ones doing the 8GB version so no clue what to do now maybe I just get a Rasperry Pi 4 8Gb or wait until its easier to buy and get. Sorry for posting in the wrong place too I still not found the one told to post in either 🙂 HA_Forum

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@wary pivot I was expecting a easyier setup getting the Yellow but on getting it found it not at all easier to setup. Will I be able to transfer a full backup from a Raspberry pi3 to Yellow when China get around to it 🤣

pastel sonnet
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@wary pivot I also got a Bill sent me from FEDEX asking for £52 shipping cost which will not be getting paid by me so glad I have no account with FEDEX!

fervent spoke
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Hey. I'm setting up my Yellow for the first time (new to HA, switching from Hubitat). I have the installer running, but it never gets past the yellow heartbeat. Am I missing something?

pastel sonnet
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@wary pivot is there any way to remove these Heat Sinks to take out the module and see if it boots up doing taht then the company will just need to replace the faulty module if its that. I don't want to attempt if it will break it trying to remove it as I have no clue on how too?

wary pivot
pastel sonnet
wary pivot
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@wary pivot Brilliant thank you! Whats going to be the best way to know its booting up as on looking at instructions I think I'm suppose to see a yellow liggt flash on it but I have no display to see anything what its up too. I was going to see about a lead from Yellow to a Tablet but with nothing working I see no point yet but would this be the best option or a hdmi to a tv lead Im a noob on this and thank you for your patience!

wary pivot
pastel sonnet
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@wary pivot thank you again! Is the Yellow possible to work without a module in it, or does it need it?

wary pivot
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No, the Yellow needs the CM4 to work.

pastel sonnet
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@wary pivot such a shame that it cannot run without it as I could then see if the module was the issue and not the Yellow it self

shut cedar
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@pastel sonnet it is safe to power it up without CM4, the power supplies will get on. But you'll have no indication as the LEDs are controlled by the CM4 (which is missing, hence LEDs stay off).

pastel sonnet
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@shut cedar Thanks for this info! I was getting no Yellow light flashing on it first day of getting it so its never booted up from buying it, this is why I'm thinking its the Module at faults here but I'm no expert on this 🙂

ripe raptor
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Guys I just set up a yellow and I'm having trouble with the zigbee configurations. I'm getting an "unknown error occurrd"

pastel sonnet
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@shut cedar is it possible to debug it or see if it works?

shut cedar
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The CM4 is really the heart and brians, so without CM4 Yellow isn't really doing much (on its own)

pastel sonnet
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such a shame so annoyed at Seeed though taken them 3 weeks up to now to give me a free return label! So still waiting! and Can't do much now only keep trying with a Raspberry pi 3

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will it over heat without the heat sink on it?

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@shut cedar I only get a red and green light never had a yellow light flash on it!

shut cedar
pastel sonnet
shut cedar
pastel sonnet
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No I have never seen a yellow flash on this system!

shut cedar
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Ok, even with the USB flash drive flashed an plugged in then? That is really surprising.

pastel sonnet
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no tried all ways. how long should it take from putting power to it? to see a yellow flash

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I see usb flashing a few times then nothing on the yellow at all well apart from red and green lights are on but no flashing yellow apart from Ethernet flashing!

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I've even tried both usb sockets on boot up and tried a few different flash on it too with differentmemory to rule that out too. So why I requested a return and I did ask for exchange but due to the way they have taken 3 weeks I requested a refund and got no where with them! I'm in the U.k and it takes them 3 months to get it to me which Im very patience in that but not in 3 weeks to send me a return label!

shut cedar
pastel sonnet
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@shut cedar thanks for this help will give it a try might be quicker than Seeeds response times 🙂 no good for medical items really! For me to put my trust into them! Love it on here though very helpfull maybe they need to come on here and learn! 🙂 Thanks!

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I already have putty installed a sI used it for the Raspberry Pi 3

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where is the serial console slot on the Yellow? Do I use the usb slot?

shut cedar
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The USB-C plug

pastel sonnet
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and boot from usb or just boot up

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@shut cedar ok great I see the Silicon labs in Device manager just going to try putty now

shut cedar
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It might work if Windows did pick the same COM port name, I guess 😄

latent fern
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wow, that's a lot of tags

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I recommend not doing that

pastel sonnet
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@shut cedar not at all sure on this part I see no console says to hit enter key which I have done on Pc keyboard as no keyboard to the Yellow Black Pi 🙂

wary pivot
pastel sonnet
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@wary pivot I do and know my risks lived better off it for the past 4 years and still alive! 🙂 Its a medical device to me! though its nothing at the moment it does not work 🤣 👍🏻

latent fern
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This isn't IRC:

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?

pastel sonnet
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@latent fern I'm trying to work out what you are mentioning

latent fern
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I'm just saying that you tagging people for every single message gets annoying really, really fast

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don't tag people like that. it's completely unnecessary and very annoying

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ping...ping...ping...ping...ping

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alright. it'll get you blocked with most folks

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you tagged him in 3 consecutive messages, and it was only you two talking

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anyway, carry on

wary pivot
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Well, he/she is a mod - so he/she indeed doesn't have anything better to do, than reminding about the netiquette 🤷

rugged garden
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Hi everyone. DId any see that error when flashing a brand new Yellow? [supervisor.resolution.evaluate] Starting system evaluation with state CoreState.RUNNING
23-06-19 23:40:32 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.evaluate] System evaluation complete
23-06-19 23:40:32 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'ResolutionFixup.run_autofix' blocked from execution, system is not healthy - supervisor
23-06-19 23:40:32 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.host.services] Updating service information
23-06-19 23:40:32 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.host.network] Updating local network information
23-06-19 23:40:32 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.host.sound] Updating PulseAudio information
23-06-19 23:40:32 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.host.manager] Host information reload completed
23-06-19 23:46:37 ERROR (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/yellow-homeassistant:2023.6.2: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.42/images/create?tag=2023.6.2&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fyellow-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
23-06-19 23:46:37 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec
23-06-19 23:47:07 INFO (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/yellow-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/yellow-homeassistant:2023.6.2
23-06-19 23:47:07 INFO (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/yellow-homeassistant with tag 2023.6.2.

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23-05-18 18:34:44 ERROR (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-audio:2023.04.1: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.42/images/create?tag=2023.04.1&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Faarch64-hassio-audio&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
23-05-18 18:34:44 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.audio] Audio update failed
23-05-18 18:34:44 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.manager] Can't update audio to 2023.04.1, the Supervisor healthy could be compromised!
23-05-18 18:34:44 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new suggestion SuggestionType.EXECUTE_UPDATE - ContextType.PLUGIN / audio
23-05-18 18:34:44 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue IssueType.UPDATE_FAILED - ContextType.PLUGIN / audio
23-05-18 18:34:44 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.updater] Fetching update data from https://version.home-assistant.io/stable.json
23-05-18 18:34:44 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.secrets] Loaded 0 Home Assistant secrets
23-05-18 18:34:44 INFO (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.interface] No version found for ghcr.io/home-assistant/yellow-homeassistant

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looks like this repo is not available

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23-05-18 18:34:44 ERROR (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-audio:2023.04.1: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.42/images/create?tag=2023.04.1&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Faarch64-hassio-audio&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
23-05-18 18:34:44 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.audio] Audio update failed
23-05-18 18:34:44 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.manager] Can't update audio to 2023.04.1, the Supervisor healthy could be compromised!
23-05-18 18:34:44 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new suggestion SuggestionType.EXECUTE_UPDATE - ContextType.PLUGIN / audio
23-05-18 18:34:44 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue IssueType.UPDATE_FAILED - ContextType.PLUGIN / audio
23-05-18 18:34:44 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.updater] Fetching update data from https://version.home-assistant.io/stable.json

wary pivot
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Have you been using DNS software like AdGuard Home, which isn't running now?

wary pivot
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Or some DNS blocking firewall rules

rugged garden
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Zero restrictions. Tried with two different ISPs

rugged garden
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The last update is from April. Hope to see this issue addressed in the next version. Looks like repository from https://ghcr.io/v2/ have restricted access

latent fern
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looks like a typical DNS or IPv6 issue

viral heath
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Rob here I thought I was the only person doing IPoAC in 2023

paper berry
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having issues with the zigbee module, I activated multi protocol support and since it didn't work with zigbee2mqtt I tried to reflash my controller... now I'm really stuck I'm not sure how to fix it, the documentation is less than helpful and pretty much all wrong or outdated

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first of all I would like to understand if there is a way to know which firmware is currently installed

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because I'm not sure I was able to flash to EZSP

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that will allow me to understand at least where I'm at and start debugging

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is there a way to see if the yellow zigbee controller is in a good state and what's the firmware on it etc...?

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the universal silabs flasher doesnt' seem to have a command for that

wary pivot
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The easiest way to install EZSP again would be the Silabs Flasher Add-on. Just be sure, ZHA, Z2M and other Zigbee-Add-ons are inactive.

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The Add-on will try to install EZSP and the protocol should show the detected Firmware

paper berry
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ok I'll try that

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the documentation doesn't say that though

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doing it now

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ok I started the add on and looks like it's having issues

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I'm getting this

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[13:27:39] INFO: Detected Home Assistant Yellow
[13:27:39] INFO: Starting universal-silabs-flasher with /dev/ttyAMA1 (bootloader baudrate 115200)
2023-06-20 13:27:42 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.flash[159] INFO Extracted GBL metadata: NabuCasaMetadata(metadata_version=1, sdk_version='4.2.2', ezsp_version='7.2.2.0', ot_rcp_version=None, fw_type=<FirmwareImageType.NCP_UART_HW: 'ncp-uart-hw'>, baudrate=None)
2023-06-20 13:27:42 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[159] INFO Triggering Yellow bootloader
2023-06-20 13:27:42 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[159] INFO Probing ApplicationType.GECKO_BOOTLOADER at 115200 baud
2023-06-20 13:27:44 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[159] INFO Probing ApplicationType.EZSP at 115200 baud
2023-06-20 13:27:49 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[159] INFO Probing ApplicationType.CPC at 460800 baud
2023-06-20 13:27:49 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.cpc[159] WARNING Failed to parse buffer bytearray(b'\xf8'): ValueError('Invalid flag')
2023-06-20 13:27:49 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.cpc[159] WARNING Failed to parse buffer bytearray(b'x'): ValueError('Invalid flag')
2023-06-20 13:27:49 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.cpc[159] WARNING Failed to parse buffer bytearray(b'\x00'): ValueError('Invalid flag')
2023-06-20 13:27:49 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.cpc[159] WARNING Failed to parse buffer bytearray(b'\x80'): ValueError('Invalid flag')
2023-06-20 13:27:49 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.cpc[159] WARNING Failed to parse buffer

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and after a bunch of that I get


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2023-06-20 13:28:02 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[159] INFO Probing ApplicationType.SPINEL at 460800 baud
Error: Failed to probe running application type
[13:28:07] INFO: universal-silabs-flasher-up script exited with code 1
s6-rc: warning: unable to start service universal-silabs-flasher: command exited 1
s6-rc: info: service banner: stopping
/run/s6/basedir/scripts/rc.init: warning: s6-rc failed to properly bring all the services up! Check your logs (in /run/uncaught-logs/current if you have in-container logging) for more information.
/run/s6/basedir/scripts/rc.init: fatal: stopping the container.
s6-rc: info: service banner successfully stopped
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: stopping
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init successfully stopped
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs: stopping
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs successfully stopped
s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner: stopping
s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner successfully stopped

dusk vortex
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Are you 100% positive no Zigbee integrations or addons are running? No Z2M? Zigbee Home Automation? Silicon Labs Multiprotocol?

paper berry
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let me check again

dusk vortex
paper berry
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I did see that but it doesn't help cause I'm not using ZHA

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z2m is not running and as far as I can see ZHA is not either

dusk vortex
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And the Multiprotocol addon?

paper berry
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neither

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it's all gone

wary pivot
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The Thread integrations sometimes restart the multiprotocol add-on. Are those removed too?

paper berry
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let me get rid of it

dusk vortex
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The only way for the flasher to fail like this is if something else is talking to the radio at the same time. Try a full reboot.

paper berry
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ok I removed thread

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let me reboot

paper berry
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ok looks like the reboot let the flasher go through, it didn't actually do anything but now I know I'm on version 7.2.2.0

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[15:43:24] INFO: Detected Home Assistant Yellow
[15:43:24] INFO: Starting universal-silabs-flasher with /dev/ttyAMA1 (bootloader baudrate 115200)
2023-06-20 15:43:27 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.flash[158] INFO Extracted GBL metadata: NabuCasaMetadata(metadata_version=1, sdk_version='4.2.2', ezsp_version='7.2.2.0', ot_rcp_version=None, fw_type=<FirmwareImageType.NCP_UART_HW: 'ncp-uart-hw'>, baudrate=None)

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the interesting part is the metadata doesn't seem to know the baudrate which migth be why further flashes with more recent firmware files are failing

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2023-06-20 15:43:50 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[158] INFO Detected ApplicationType.GECKO_BOOTLOADER, version '2.0.1' at 115200 baudrate (bootloader baudrate 115200)
NabuCasa_Yellow_EZSP_v7.2.2.0_PA32_ncp-uart-hw_115200.gbl
[15:44:45] INFO: universal-silabs-flasher-up script exited with code 0

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does the exit code 0 mean everything is working?

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looks like it's back

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nice, now zigbee2mqtt loads

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appreciate the help 🙂

timid sable
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How do i add files to the home assistant yellow ?

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I want to add files to the config folder

wary pivot
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You can use the Samba share, File editor, FTP or Studio Code Server add-on

timid sable
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Yeah figured it out

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Thanks

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Used samba share

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I want to install cameras around the house and have them tied to frigate with a coral, should I use a dedicated system for that or can this be done with the yellow without any issues ?

wary pivot
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Use a seperate system. The m.2 Coral is incompatible and the USB one isn't working reliably with the Yellow (at least for me - I have tried 2 powered USB hubs and a big bunch of USB cables).

paper berry
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I tried the USB coral and I also got constant crashes

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so I'm moving Frigate to the home server

pastel sonnet
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Is there anywhere in the Uk selling 8gb Yellow?

wary pivot
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No

ripe raptor
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Possible to use a webcam directly plugged in to the HA yellow?

olive violet
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Failed to prope running application type

cold delta
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Any major issues with Home Assistant Yellow?

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Was planning on buying one

coral ingot
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Hey 👋 Is there anyone running a stock kernel without the device tree of the yellow? I'm trying to get it work but my overlays for the UART4 are off. Anyone has an idea?

coral ingot
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nvm, got it working 🎉

fossil otter
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Not sure this is the right place to ask, do we know if the Yellow POE hardware Kits will ship this week? Also, rpilocator.com shows no CM4 units to be had in the US. Do we know if there are CM4 units to be delivered to the US soon?

wary pivot
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Short answer: no, we don't.

cold delta
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$200 for CM4008016 on eBay. -_-

thorny blade
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Anyone drill a hole in their case for an external antenna? I didn't realize the razzberry pro 7 used one. Right now I just have to shoved inside the case.

cold delta
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Is there a ship date on the Yellow POE?

queen sundial
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Hi all,
on first connection I have no led lights showing up, anybody else had the same issue ?
just received my yellow poe with nvme m2 250gb

I have followed all the steps and checked twice the module to be correctly inserted

stray atlas
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Has anyone notice since the last Core update the yellow CPU is idleing about 20% more than before

wary pivot
queen sundial
wary pivot
stray atlas
wary pivot
queen sundial
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What else could it be? Aside the CM4

wary pivot
stray atlas
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thank you

queen sundial
wary pivot
queen sundial
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That will do it, right ?

wary pivot
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Looks good.

queen sundial
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Thanks 🙏

wary pivot
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Wait

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The barrel plug is too big.

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In some parts the Amazon page says 5.5mm, in others 5.1mm ponder

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It needs to be a 5.1/2.1mm one

queen sundial
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Fastweb Nexxt

compact quartz
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hmm. yeah I assume it doesn't have PoE but can't find details either. It has Alexa?

queen sundial
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It does

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Model: GPON FG4225R.FW

compact quartz
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I see articles talking about 2.5 Gb ports, Wifi 6, and Alexa 👀

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You could find and connect a PoE switch to it though, and then use that

queen sundial
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Yes that’s the one

compact quartz
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by find I mean "buy" 😄

queen sundial
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Would you be so kind to point me to a Poe switch model

compact quartz
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TP-Link too

queen sundial
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Thanks, I’ll give it a go in case also the dc power connection doesn’t work

compact quartz
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For one single device, you could also search for a gigabit "PoE injector".

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But a switch will give you more potential down the line

wary pivot
queen sundial
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Lol 😐

wary pivot
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I'll have a look, what connector I ordered 🤣

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Mine has a 5.5mm plug. So... forget what I have said about 5.1 mm 🤣

queen sundial
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sorry guys just one more question, in case I would like just to check the power, to have the leds on do I need the module attached right?

wary pivot
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The CM4 needs to be attached. The LEDs are controlled by it.

radiant seal
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Yellow PoE out for delivery today... excited 😄

queen sundial
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@wary pivot @compact quartz thank you, eventually the dc power is working as expected, installing now on the ssd

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I guess I'll be asking more questions soon, being my first time with HA

wary pivot
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You know, where you can find us 😆

queen sundial
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ok first question, where can I find the custom_components folder

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my daikin aircon is not support by the official integration 😦

wary pivot
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If you are using HACS, it will be created automatically. Otherwise you need a terminal or file editor add-on (or Studio Code Server) and create it yourself in the config folder (where the configuration.yaml is).

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It isn't present by default.

rugged garden
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Someone know when the next version of the operating system will be released for the Yellow?

wary pivot
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The OS doesn't follow a strict release cycle, unlike the core

slim wren
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just wanted to give you feedback and praise - I got my yellow in october 2022 and since then it just works, before then I had used rpi, various servers, etc. but there was always some issues, second best option is OCI box I do still run, but that needs VPN, and VPN causes issues, so again, very happy with yellow

radiant seal
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woke up this morning to find HA + all addons unresponsive, yellow LED was flashing in a heartbeat still. Power cycled and it came back. Any way to find out why it crashed? (logs appear to get reset on reboot)

wary pivot
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Did you install the supervisor update?

radiant seal
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Home Assistant 2023.6.3
Supervisor 2023.06.4
Operating System 10.3

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I saw a thread to suggest that latest supervisor is problematic, no issues here (apart from the crash 🙂 )

wary pivot
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The supervisor update needed a host reboot. Maybe that's the reason you add-ons didn't react anymore.

radiant seal
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host was rebooted after the supervisor update was applied

wary pivot
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HA Core was also not responding? I have had crashes due to a bad NVMe. It caused filesystem corruptions - HAOS crashed, restarted with disabled NVMe and nothing useful ran. A hint were filesystem error messages during boot. I accessed those using dmesg in the serial console (not sure anymore, If they were also shown in the frontend OS logs)

radiant seal
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HA core was not responding. entirely possible it's a bad NVMe.. If it happens again I'll move everything back to the eMMC and see how it behaves 👍

queen sundial
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So I have bought this cheap motion sensor device to test it, TuYa IH012-RT01, I'm trying to add it to HA via zigbee, from the logs I can see some errors happening, any clue ?

Error handling '_save_attribute' event with (a4:c1:38:56:33:b4:ef:99, 1, 1280, 19, 1) params: FOREIGN KEY constraint failed
Error handling '_save_attribute' event with (a4:c1:38:56:33:b4:ef:99, 1, 1280, 19, 1) params: FOREIGN KEY constraint failed
wary pivot
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It might be some ZHA compatibility issue. The people in #zigbee-archived might know more about that kind of problem.

noble flare
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Does anyone have an idea when the Home Assistant Yellow will finally be delivered? It has been postponed for almost 4 times now. And the original date of delivery was march…

wary pivot
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It depends on where you have ordered from. CrowdSupply is known for its unreliable estimations.

noble flare
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Yes I ordered from them.

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Why is the delay so long?

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I mean the status is “pre-order” and the estimated shipping time 30 june 2023

wary pivot
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My guess is, they sell more than they get delivered - so the backlog gets bigger and bigger. Raspberrypi.dk for example only shows them as orderable, when they are able to fulfill the order soon.

noble flare
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😦

wary pivot
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We had the same problem with CrowdSupply after the crowdfunding phase.

noble flare
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It’s a shame

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How long did it take before it arrived at your doorstep?

wary pivot
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It is. But Nabu Casa is adding more (reliable) distributors.

noble flare
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Maybe they should start by “fixing” the current vendors. Otherwise the problem may get bigger and bigger

wary pivot
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About 9 months. But to be fair - it was crowdfunding and the PoE had some delays 🤣

noble flare
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Omgzz…

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Well, we’ll see man

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Hopefully it get’s processed asap

wary pivot
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You could contact the CrowdSupply support - maybe they improved that secret_squirrel

noble flare
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Haaha nope they didnt

vivid grove
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has anyone added the sonoff usb 3 as a router to their yellow?

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When I try it recognises it as the coordinator and I cant figure out how to fix it my yellow coordinator is still there of course and works fine but I was hoping to make use of this dongle since its been sat in my drawer since my yellow arrived

wary pivot
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Have you flashed the router firmware?

vivid grove
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yeah

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I used python as smartrf kept giving me an error

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Unknown record type: 3.

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yep just did it again i even flashed it back to a coordinator that it couldnt find but with router firmware it says it the coordinator

abstract kindle
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Can't get Z2M to run on my Yellow. ZHA is disabled and ignored; I followed the directions completely and I'm completely lost on what else to do.

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This is what I get on the log:

[18:01:56] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT...
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-07-03 18:02:02: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2023-07-03.18-02-02' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-07-03 18:02:02: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.32.0 (commit #unknown)
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-07-03 18:02:02: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.16.0)
Error: Reset error: Error: {"sequence":-1} after 10000ms
at /app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/uart.ts:299:23
at Queue.executeNext (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/utils/queue.ts:32:32)

vivid grove
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I get the same when I try and run zigbee2mqtt, sorry I know thats of no help to you but it may point to there being an issue somewhere

wary pivot
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Have you been using the radio with the Multiprotocol or Open Thread Border Router add-on before?

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And what is your Z2M configuration?

abstract kindle
abstract kindle
# wary pivot And what is your Z2M configuration?

data_path: /config/zigbee2mqtt
socat:
enabled: false
master: pty,raw,echo=0,link=/tmp/ttyZ2M,mode=777
slave: tcp-listen:8485,keepalive,nodelay,reuseaddr,keepidle=1,keepintvl=1,keepcnt=5
options: "-d -d"
log: false
mqtt: {}
serial:
adapter: ezsp
port: /dev/ttyAMA1
baudrate: 115200
rtscts: true

wary pivot
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And the ZHA integration is removed, not just disabled?

abstract kindle
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It is ignored. Is there a way to delete it? Isn't it built-in?

tender arrow
vivid grove
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how would I know that is there a way to check, I ask because I get the same issue and as far as Im aware I dont have multiprotocol or otbr firmware but is there a way to know for sure.

wary pivot
abstract kindle
radiant seal
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Can I connect to console while the Yellow is already powered on? Or do I need to connect console, power up, wait for it to crash?

wary pivot
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Yes, you can.

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But when the OS really crashes, no more output will appear.

radiant seal
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when it crashes for me the yellow LED still flashes in a heartbeat but HA and all it’s add-ons go unresponsive

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The heartbeat flash made me think the OS is still running but supervisor (or something) has crashed, is that a correct assumption?

wary pivot
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Quite likely, yes. But having the console running before the crash might catch some error messages.

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The last time I had those crashes, a bad NVMe was the culprit - causing filesystem errors. After the crash the OS rebooted from eMMC, but the NVMe with HA Core and add-ons went missing. Only a powercycle reanimated it. If lsblk | grep nvme doesn't show anything after the crash, it might be the same in your case.

radiant seal
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Ok, makes sense. Got screen logging to file now so lets see what happens tonight.

abstract kindle
spiral bronze
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General question - and pardon if this has likely been asked before. New user here, located in the US. If im interested in ordering a Home Assistant Yellow - should I be worried about ordering from CrowdSupply in terms of delays? Would RaspberryPi.dk even ship to the US?

compact quartz
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@spiral bronze seeed will ship to the u.s.

wary pivot
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RaspberryPi.dk is a great reseller, but shipping from Denmark is quite expensive.

velvet vessel
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Hey everyone. I’m using a 2gb CM4 in my yellow currently and am finding that I’m already at 85% memory usage with my home assistant setup. If I were to swap in a new cm4 with more memory, would the yellow just automatically install home assistant from scratch and i would just restore from backup after?

wary pivot
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I assume you have one with eMMC and installed HAOS to it?

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In that case: no, you have to install it again (e.g. with the installer USB stick) yourself and restore your backup afterwards

velvet vessel
compact quartz
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@velvet vessel if you have a kit variant it would have to have been installed using the USB installer. Only the standard yellow came with cm4 in place and HA installed.

velvet vessel
open urchin
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does anyone else get constant reinitializing for the bluetooth integration with the yellow?

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just after i said that i may have fixed it. i turned on the passive scanning option

velvet vessel
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I was getting that like a few versions ago

brazen jewel
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So, my CM4 finally shipped, so I'm getting ready to set up my Home Assistant Yellow - is there anything else I should pick up? Is it worth adding an M.2?

wary pivot
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As long as it is a NVMe (preferrably not incompatible) and not a M.2 SATA, yes.

abstract sand
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Son purchased me a Home Assistant Yellow kit in February to help me in the process of replacing my failing HAI Omnipro II, but I can't find a compute module. Will a Bannana PI 4 or one of the other alternative compute modules work with the Yellow kit?

wary pivot
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Most likely not. Neither is the hardware tested, nor the software adapted to a Banana Pi.

abstract sand
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Looks like the Raspberry PI compute modules will not be avialble until mid 2024. Will see if I can use a Rasberry PI 3 for now as I need to get at it this summer before I start class work up again this Fall. Picked up two Konnected boards o handle the siren and alarms and still need an X10 solution.

safe parcel
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On my yellow, after a HA update is installed, the multiprotocol add-on keeps using around 26% CPU. A restart of the add-on brings it down to 0.1%. Anyone else seeing this?

radiant seal
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Yellow crashed again this morning. console let me login but any 'ha' command just hung. Going to revert back to eMMC to rule out the nvme

wary pivot
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Even with the Open Thread Border Router add-on

dreamy spruceBOT
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@fallen patio I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

wary pivot
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Is the Multi-PAN add-on running?

fallen patio
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Nope

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Should I?

wary pivot
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Your error messages are stating "Yellow Multi-PAN" - and that doesn't work without add-on

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If you go to ZHA in the integrations and select configure, what does it say for serial port?

safe parcel
wary pivot
safe parcel
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Does systemmonitor work in yellow?

wary pivot
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I'm using it for disk and memory usage, as well as for CPU usage and temperature. But not sure, if every other possible sensor will be working

dense shell
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First problem, I thought python was already installed on HA. For example, I've used python_scripts before. But when I SSH in, I can't find it.

wary pivot
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What exactly are you SSHing in?

dense shell
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ssh into the yellow

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i think i need to install these python packages on yellow:
gpiozero pigpio

wary pivot
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In the SSH/Terminal add-on, the developer SSH...

dense shell
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i tried the addon also using putty from my PC

wary pivot
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The add-on is not the OS

dense shell
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i vaguely remembered something like that which is why i puttied

wary pivot
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I'd suggest to post this question in #integrations-archived - this is not specific to the Yellow, but to HAOS. Maybe someone there has tried something similar

ripe zephyr
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Hi, how long the 1st installation/1st start is supposed to take ? It's working for more than 30 min now... (I have installed a M2 drive). Thanks

wary pivot
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Do you mean the installation with the installer USB or the onboarding?

ripe zephyr
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the default onboarding: just plug the ac adapter and go..

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The ping responds but the default url no..

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and the red light is on

wary pivot
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But the OS is already installed?

ripe zephyr
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According to the documentation, yes

wary pivot
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You could connect it to your PC via the USB-C port, connect to the serial console and look for error messages when you reboot the Yellow.

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The first loading of the onboarding page shouldn't take so long, if everything is working correctly.

ripe zephyr
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I'm going to remove the m2 drive for the 1st setup...

wary pivot
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What m.2 are you using?

ripe zephyr
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the one recommended: 970evo plus

wary pivot
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Ok. Rules out a compatibility issue.

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What ducumentation are you following? (Just to be sure)

ripe zephyr
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The one included in the box:

  • plug network cable
  • plug alimentation
  • connect
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ok I have removed the NVMe drive, done a factory reset and it's working now. I think the m2 drive must not be plugged at 1st setup..

wary pivot
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Glad it is working now.

brazen jewel
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So I have an extra m.2 sata ssd lying around…. But it sounds like the one for HA needs to be nvme?

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Even though it fits, it might not work?

wary pivot
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SATA will definetly not work

patent nacelle
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Hi! I just setup the yellow, and I’m having issue getting the zigbee service to run. Seems like the core_sillabs_multiprotocol is trying to flash the FW at boot and is failing. Disabling auto-flash allows is to start, but I still cannot setup the yellow Zigbee/multi-pan service.

wary pivot
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Okay. Have you just installed the Multiprotocol add-on or have you selected to enable multiprotocol support in Settings - System - Hardware - Configure?

patent nacelle
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The second. I enabled under hardware.

wary pivot
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Is the ZHA integration called "Yellow Multi-PAN" and what error messages does the auto-flash show in the add-on logs?

patent nacelle
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Yes, it changed name to yellow multi-pan. Error:

2023-07-08 20:45:53 homeassistant universal_silabs_flasher.flash[181] INFO Extracted GBL metadata: NabuCasaMetadata(metadata_version=1, sdk_version='4.3.0', ezsp_version=None, ot_rcp_version=None, fw_type=<FirmwareImageType.RCP_UART_802154: 'rcp-uart-802154'>, baudrate=460800)
2023-07-08 20:45:53 homeassistant universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[181] INFO Triggering Yellow bootloader
2023-07-08 20:45:53 homeassistant universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[181] INFO Probing ApplicationType.GECKO_BOOTLOADER at 115200 baud
2023-07-08 20:45:55 homeassistant universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[181] INFO Probing ApplicationType.CPC at 460800 baud
2023-07-08 20:45:59 homeassistant universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[181] INFO Probing ApplicationType.CPC at 115200 baud
2023-07-08 20:46:04 homeassistant universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[181] INFO Probing ApplicationType.CPC at 230400 baud
2023-07-08 20:46:08 homeassistant universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[181] INFO Probing ApplicationType.EZSP at 115200 baud
2023-07-08 20:46:13 homeassistant universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[181] INFO Probing ApplicationType.SPINEL at 460800 baud
Error: Failed to probe running application type
s6-rc: warning: unable to start service universal-silabs-flasher: command exited 1
/run/s6/basedir/scripts/rc.init: warning: s6-rc failed to properly bring all the services up! Check your logs (in /run/uncaught-logs/current if you have in-container logging) for more information.
/run/s6/basedir/scripts/rc.init: fatal: stopping the container.

wary pivot
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Is /dev/ttyAMA1 selected as device in the add-on settings?

patent nacelle
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it is

wary pivot
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Have you powercycled it yet (shutdown, pulling power and starting again)?

patent nacelle
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I think I did. But let´s try again

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Just did. Same issue.

wary pivot
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Just to be sure: you are not using Zigbee2MQTT?

patent nacelle
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No. This is a freshly installed yellow, and I have not installed that add-on

wary pivot
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A last thing to look for, before we try to revert the changes:
If you go to Settings - Devices & Services - Integrations - ZHA and select Configure at Yellow Multi-PAN, what does it show in Serial port?

patent nacelle
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I cannot see that integration. The multi-pan one is gone too. Seems like that happened after power cycling it.

wary pivot
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Even if you look for disabled or ignored integrations?

patent nacelle
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Yes, neither in ignored nor in disabled. But if I try to add it as a new one, socket://core-silabs-multiprotocol:9999 - Multiprotocol add-on - Nabu Casa, shows up

wary pivot
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But the Multiprotocol add-on still doesn't start with auto-flash?

patent nacelle
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that's right

wary pivot
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Did you get a success message when you selected to enable multiprotocol support or did you reboot it meanwhile?

patent nacelle
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I did get a success message

wary pivot
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I'd suggest to try to revert the changes. Sounds like something really is borked.

patent nacelle
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I can reflash it I guess.

patent nacelle
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Or follow that 🙂

wary pivot
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And remove the Thread integrations (if they are present)

patent nacelle
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Yeah, that one is running due to an apple home pod on the network

wary pivot
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There should be an Open Thread Border Router integration (well - at least if everything would have run well)

patent nacelle
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the flashing is failing

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Error: Failed to probe running application type
[21:26:14] INFO: universal-silabs-flasher-up script exited with code 1
s6-rc: warning: unable to start service universal-silabs-flasher: command exited 1
s6-rc: info: service banner: stopping
/run/s6/basedir/scripts/rc.init: warning: s6-rc failed to properly bring all the services up! Check your logs (in /run/uncaught-logs/current if you have in-container logging) for more information.
/run/s6/basedir/scripts/rc.init: fatal: stopping the container.

wary pivot
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And no other add-on or integration is using /dev/ttyAMA1, correct?

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And the Yellow has internet access?

patent nacelle
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I enabled verbose logs and get this:
2023-07-08 21:33:10 core-silabs-flasher universal_silabs_flasher.cpc[158] DEBUG Failed to send CPCTransportFrame(endpoint=<EndpointId.SYSTEM: 0>, control=196, payload=UnnumberedFrame(command_id=<UnnumberedFrameCommandId.PROP_VALUE_GET: 2>, command_seq=0, payload=PropertyCommand(property_id=<PropertyId.SECONDARY_CPC_VERSION: 3>, value=b''))), trying again in 0.10s (attempt 4 of 4)

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Yes the yellow has internet access. Not aware of any other integration using it. Is there a way to check?

wary pivot
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Are you using the GPIO pins inside the Yellow?

patent nacelle
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Not using any of the pins no

wary pivot
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Okay, in that case it's quite unlikely...

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My approach would be to start over completely new (installing the OS again) and running the Silicon Labs Flasher add-on as first thing after onboarding.

patent nacelle
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sure!

wary pivot
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At least if you are not loosing too much.

patent nacelle
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its a completely new setup so no, not really

wary pivot
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And as you need to open it anyways - have a look if the CM4 is really seated correctly.

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If the Silicon Labs Flasher add-on still fails (which should restore the EZSP firmware as it was in the first place) it might be a hardware problem.
In that case contact yellow@home-assistant.io

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The professionals might also have an idea I didn't come up with

patent nacelle
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Thanks so far 🙂

patent nacelle
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The rpi was not properly seated 😅

wary pivot
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So it is working now?

patent nacelle
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yes 🙂

gentle sedge
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hey folks, i went through the install process and since i have a RP4 that has eMMC but I have a nvme, i did the press the blue button to "Forcing installation onto the NVMe SSD" which seemed to work fine - got to only the red LED being on. Then removed the USB and power cycled, but just the red and green stay on solid, like HA isn't booting

wary pivot
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The NVMe might be incompatible

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You could also try to flash the installer directly too the NVMe (option 2 of this quide - but choosing the NVMe instead of the eMMC)

gentle sedge
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roger that, thanks for the speedy response. i'll serial console it and see what i see; i was thinking the bootorder might be a problem. i hope the nvme is compat since its the one from seeedstudio as part of the kit! but you gave me a lot to try, ill let you know

wary pivot
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What NVMe are you using?

wary pivot
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Oof, a rebranded one. Hard to say if one of the known working or not working ones is below that sticker

gentle sedge
wary pivot
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Fingers crossed

gentle sedge
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connects serial console, boots fine

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i don't even know what to say, it boots now lol.....

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well, i guess my lesson here is come ask for help and it'll start working. maybe i should have tried a few reboots first... it boots every time now without console connected. thanks @wary pivot for your responses

wary pivot
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You are welcome!

noble flare
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I am trying to move the data disk from my emmc to my Samsung 980 500GB nvme m2.

While it’s listed as an option in the dropdown. It’s not listed in the hardware section of HA.

‘ha os datadisk list’ however shows the nvme correctly

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When pressing “move” HA is rebooted but is also reset and the /onboarding.html is shown again. Resulting in a new ha instance but still using the emmc of the cm4.

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Anyone an idea how I can make it work? I tried doing it manually via ssh as well.

wary pivot
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Are you using a 980 or 980 Pro NVMe?

noble flare
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Just the norma 980

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The reset of HA also seems to happen when I just “restart ha”. Looks like the emmc still contains the installation files?

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Shouldn’t this be automatically wiped upon a succesfull installation?

wary pivot
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The eMMC will still contain the OS

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Is the NVMe correctly seated in the m.2 slot?

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And the CM4 as well?

noble flare
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I know but when pressing “restart” in HA after a succesful installation. It looks like HA is factory resetting and wiping everything.

This shouldn’t be the case right?

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The CM4 and nvme are seated as described by the guide

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Without the cm4 HA wouldn’t boot anyway.

wary pivot
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No, it shouldn't be the case. Is your red button permanently pressed (is it still clicky when you press it)?

noble flare
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Ehmm, let me see

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Yes still clicky

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Fyi, i installed the os via rpiboot onto the CM4 since it was in usb mode for some reason

wary pivot
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If you connect to your Yellow via the serial console and reboot, does it show any error messages? Right at the beginning it shows the state of the red and blue button. Like:
gpio: pin GPIO27 (gpio 27) value is 1 gpio: pin GPIO26 (gpio 26) value is 1

noble flare
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Oeff I have never done such a thing.

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No idea where to start tbh

noble flare
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Lemme see

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I see some weird ass characters

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Looks like it’s installing again…

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Because obviously it’s rebooted

wary pivot
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What do the gpio messages at the beginning say?

noble flare
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It’s encoded for some reason

wary pivot
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Reconnect it - and be sure the serial settings in your program are correct

noble flare
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It’s correct

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But ha is installing the os again

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Everythime i disconnect power

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And restart yellow

wary pivot
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It should be humanreadable - even if it is reinstalling the OS

noble flare
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So this is basically impossible

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U can only connect it if the yellow is powered off

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According to the guide

wary pivot
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The red button might be electronically stuck or the data migration really went wrong.
I'd suggest to reinstall the OS (option 2 again) and to remove everything on the m.2 (delete all partitions - e.g. with an USB adapter)

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And only try a migration, if the system survives a reboot without new onboarding

noble flare
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Same after re-installing the OS with option 2 again. Output still encoded in console

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Looks like there is a minor error while writing to the cm4?

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Right now it’s executing the installation but the serial output is encoded..

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Got it working!

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Forgot to attach the port

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However the output is cut off in my terminal

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Anyway to do it in ha as well?

wary pivot
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The early boot messages are not visible in HA

noble flare
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Im viewing it from the terminal in console

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As you advised

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Its givivv some error:” Error setting up entry Home Assistant Yellow for homeassistant_yellow

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In source/zha/radio_manager.py:144

wary pivot
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You should check, if the CM4 is fully seated in its sockets

noble flare
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Jorg, if it wasn’t fully seated. The HA wasn’t able to start

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I am able to install addons etc. And ha is just working fine. But, upon restart or whatever, it just randomly reinstalls the whole OS over again

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So weird…

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And frustrating

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I got 1 error: Failed to set timeout to 10 min: invalid argument. That error occured in the serial console after pressing “move data disk”

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There is also the line Machine Model: Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Rev 1.1 in the console. So it does recognize it

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I’m kinda out of options. Maybe @robust turtle is able to help out in this matter?

wary pivot
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Have you been able to see the GPIO messages at the beginning of the boot process?

noble flare
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No, it’s cut of to quizk

wary pivot
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You can log those messages - see step 12

noble flare
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?

wary pivot
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Step 12 of the serial console guide

noble flare
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:hardcopy not found

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….

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@wary pivot on what line should I see the GPIO output?

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I can’t see any gpio 26/27 only gpio-507 (ant 1) hogged as output/high and gpii-511 (ant-2). Hogged as output/low

compact quartz
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@noble flare what is the current state? You have access to a fresh install of HA (though you intended to have a restored backup)?

noble flare
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@compact quartz the status is the same. I am able to install it. But the installation does not remain in place on reboots/restarts etc.

hidden garnet
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My HA instance on my Yellow seems to intermittently lose the ability to transmit audio via the line out port. I'm not sure if this is caused by restarts or updates, but I suspect it is one of the two. Once I recognize this issue has occurred, I can reboot the Yellow and it will be able to transmit audio via the line out port again. I'm not sure if this is a Yellow-specific issue or a general HAOS issue, so I'm even less sure where it might make sense to open an issue on GitHub. Thoughts?

wary pivot
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Just tried it with my Yellow, which hasn't been rebooted for some time. No audio output with VLC, working audio output after reboot. 🤔

shut cedar
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Anything in the host logs?

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Or VLC add-on logs. In the case when its not working.

wary pivot
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Will keep an eye on it. Anything I can look up in journalctl, which might be helpful?

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There are quite a lot of entries for pulseaudio in it.

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Jul 11 11:08:26 homeassistant hassio_audio[570]: W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, but --disallow-module-loading not set.
Jul 11 11:08:26 homeassistant hassio_audio[570]: W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Home directory of user 'root' is not '/var/run/pulse', ignoring.
Jul 11 11:08:26 homeassistant hassio_audio[570]: W: [pulseaudio] caps.c: Normally all extra capabilities would be dropped now, but that's impossible because PulseAudio was built without capabilities support.
Jul 11 11:08:26 homeassistant hassio_audio[570]: W: [pulseaudio] main.c: OK, so you are running PA in system mode. Please make sure that you actually do want to do that.
Jul 11 11:08:26 homeassistant hassio_audio[570]: W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Please read http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/WhatIsWrongWithSystemWide/ for an explanation why system mode is usually a bad idea.
Jul 11 11:08:26 homeassistant hassio_audio[570]: W: [pulseaudio] module-udev-detect.c: Failed to open /proc/asound/card0: No such file or directory
Jul 11 11:08:26 homeassistant hassio_audio[570]: E: [pulseaudio] module-rescue-streams.c: module rescue-stream is obsolete and should no longer be loaded. Please remove it from your configuration.
shut cedar
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Nothing really stands out here. journalctl -k or dmesg, wondering if the kernel driver reports some issues.

ripe zephyr
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Trying to add an Eve Matter device to my HAY.
In the HA Android app, I choose to add a matter device
The device is found but then the app gets stuck as "checking network connectivity"
And then : "Can’t reach device, make sure your phone is connected to Wi-Fi"
I tried another Matter device with the same result. Any help really appreciated! Thanks!!!!!

wary pivot
noble flare
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@wary pivot I figured out what the problem was. It indeed was the CM4 which needed to be pushed in a tiny bit further.

Thanks for your help! HA now works as expected. Also the moving of data to the nvme!

loud swift
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Trying to diagnose another issue on my HA, I see the eth0 flapping randomly in the systemd journal. Digging around some, seems the Ethernet controller on the Pi4 does something called Energy-Efficient Ethernet (EEE) which seems to be the culprit. Anyone else noticed issues with networking?

wary pivot
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No ethernet issues here

ripe zephyr
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Hi, About disabling multiprotocol support on Yellow: is it possible to disable it keeping Thread/Matter as default instead of ZHA?

wary pivot
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Yes, use the Open Thread Border Router add-on.

ripe zephyr
wary pivot
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Uninstall the Multiprotocol add-on and ZHA first. The OTBR add-on will install a Thread-only firmware

ripe zephyr
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I setup my HAY from scratch.
I don't want to use the "Silicon Labs Multiprotocol" add-on as I only want to use Thread/Matter and not Zigbee.
When installing an Open Thread Border Router, an url is requested for the OTBR API, what should I enter?

wary pivot
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Just install the OTBR add-on. The integration will be autodiscovered afterwards

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Run it as a 1-to-1 replacement for the Multiprotocol add-on

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  1. remove Multiprotocol add-on, ZHA and OTBR integration
  2. install OTBR add-on
  3. configure and run OTBR add-on
  4. restart HA
ripe zephyr
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@wary pivot Thank you very much for this information. I wasn't aware of the OTBR add-on.. I think my setup is all good now but I still can't pair my Matter device 😢 The device is found but "checking network connectivity" takes a very long time and at the end I get "Can’t reach device, make sure your phone is connected to Wi-Fi"

wary pivot
fading forum
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Hello all:
I am still having issues with the onboard Homeassistant Yellow Zigbee chip. Everytime I try to setup I get the same error.
"Unknown error occurred"
Please help me to resolve this.
I have styarted purchasing Zigbe devices and I can go no further.
Thanks in advance!

wary pivot
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What steps have you taken and at what point are you failing?

fading forum
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I click configuer and I immediality get the Unknown error occurred window,

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I am unsure how to diagnose

wary pivot
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Where are you clicking configure? There are quite a lot of configure buttons in Home Assistant

fading forum
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From Notifications, Check it out, Discovered...

wary pivot
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If you go to Settings - Devices & Services - Integrations and search for ZHA, does anything show up?

fading forum
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The same window from discovered

wary pivot
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Have you restarted Home Assistant yet?

fading forum
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Several times...

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I just restarted server

wary pivot
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Are you using Zigbee2MQTT or have you installed the Multiprotocol or Open Thread Border Router add-on?

fading forum
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Evidently not, is that the way to go?
I just assumed that the default would work on its own

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So then I should install the Zigbee and OpenThread multiprotocol add-on then

wary pivot
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No, but those are common things, why ZHA doesn't work.
Some people have problems with the Zigbee radio, because the CM4 ist not fully seated in its sockets. You may want to check that.

fading forum
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I just checked the CM4 the other day after reading about others issues...

wary pivot
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How have you installed the operating system to your Yellow?

fading forum
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The Yellow starts up and I get the overview screen etc...

wary pivot
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So you have bought one with a preinstalled CM4 - meaning you didn't have to assemble the Yellow, right?

fading forum
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No, I purchaed the CM4 and installed it. But everything else was complete.

wary pivot
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And how did you install the OS to the CM4?

fading forum
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Was preinstalled when I got it

wary pivot
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That sounds strange

fading forum
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How so

wary pivot
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If you buy the Standard set with preinstalled CM4, the OS is already installed. If you buy the CM4 seperately, there is no operating system installed

fading forum
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I purchase was shipped on 3/3/23 Showing as Home Assistant Yellow "Power Cord: US"

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Any way to get more details, maybe from the HA itself?

wary pivot
#

If you go to Settings - System - Hardware, does it say "Home Assistant Yellow (yellow)"?

fading forum
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Home Assistant Yellow

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yellow

wary pivot
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At least it is the correct OS

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Let's try to shutdown the Yellow. It's in the same menu as the restart - just in the advanced options. When the Yellow stops flashing, remove the power, wait a moment and power it on again

fading forum
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OK, waiting for reboot

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Taking forever to boot

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OK, back up. But still the same error...

wary pivot
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If you go to Settings - System - Logs and select Home Assistant Core, does it show error messages for ZHA?

fading forum
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This is what I have:
Home Assistant Core
Error handling request
5:21:31 AM – (ERROR) runner.py
Error doing job: Unclosed connection
5:21:16 AM – (ERROR) runner.py
Dashboard unavailable; skipping setup: Cannot connect to host 127.0.0.1:65190 ssl:default [Connect call failed ('127.0.0.1', 65190)]
5:21:13 AM – (ERROR) esphome
Error requesting ESPHome Dashboard data: Cannot connect to host 127.0.0.1:65190 ssl:default [Connect call failed ('127.0.0.1', 65190)]
5:21:13 AM – (ERROR) esphome - message first occurred at 5:21:13 AM and shows up 2 times
Dashboard unavailable; skipping setup: Cannot connect to host 127.0.0.1:65190 ssl:default [Connect call failed ('127.0.0.1', 65190)]
5:21:13 AM – (ERROR) esphome

wary pivot
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You can try to update the radio's firmware. Install the Silicon Labs Flasher add-on (not the Multiprotocol!). When it is installed, go the the add-ons configuration, select /dev/ttyAMA1 and save it. Run it afterwards. You can look at its logs while it is running.

fading forum
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OK

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Go to configuration
Missing required option 'device' in Silicon Labs Flasher (core_silabs_flasher).

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How do I know which one?

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Device

/dev/ttyAMA0

/dev/ttyS0

/dev/ttyAMA2

/dev/ttyAMA1

wary pivot
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You might know, if you had read my previous post

fading forum
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Sorry skimmed over it...

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That fixed it.
Thank you so much!

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You have a great day or evening whatever the case may be.

wary pivot
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And a well meaning advice for the HA journey: don't skim over documentation - that might bite you in your bottom 🤣

fading forum
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Lesson learned!
Thanks again!

young torrent
#

Hi all, I’m a newbie to Home Assistant, my Home Assistant Yellow (standard) just arrived in the post yesterday and I’m having trouble connecting to it. I’ve tried http://homeassistant:8123, http://homeassistant.local:8123 and http://<ip address>:8123 on multiple browsers and multiple devices (Mac and Windows). I keep getting "This site can’t be reached. homeassistant.local refused to connect". I have logged in to my router and I can see that Home Assistant is there. Has anyone else encountered this or have any tips I could try? Maybe this question lies in the installation channel, not too sure.

barren lichen
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Did you have the network cable connected when you powered it up?

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Can you connect a keyboard and monitor?

wary pivot
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Are the red, green and yellow LEDs alive and is the yellow LED blinking evenly?

hidden garnet
young torrent
wary pivot
young torrent
wary pivot
hidden garnet
young torrent
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I have a feeling it is to do with my own settings, and less to do with the Yellow...

wary pivot
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Are you on the same network as the Yellow?

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No Tunnels, VPNs and such stuff?

radiant seal
#

You could use an IP scanner app to see if it shows up? Or check your router to see if Home assistant has been given an IP

radiant seal
wary pivot
#

What NVMe have you been using?

radiant seal
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Samsung 980 500GB (non pro)

wary pivot
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My crashed one was a 980 too (the 1GB version). I wonder, if the Host Memory Buffer feature has something to do with the data corruptions. I have changed mine to a Samsung 970 Evo Plus (without HMB) and haven't had any problems since.

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@shut cedar Do you think, the HMB feature of the Samsung 980 might be a problem?

shut cedar
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I think it should be possible to disable it using nvme.max_host_mem_size_mb=0 in cmdline.txt

wary pivot
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Mine also happened with the 9.x releases, but I'm on one without HMB now. If you want to do some stresstesting with the 980, I could send one to you.

hard wyvern
wary pivot
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I'm just suspicious about the 980 (non-Pro) - but that's not based on evidence yet

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The 980 Pro is confirmed incompatible

young torrent
# wary pivot Are you on the same network as the Yellow?

Yeah. My Router is xxx.xxx.x.1, and the Home Assistant has been given xxx.xxx.x.37 from what I seen when I log in to the Router's dashboard, as per Jack's suggestion to check IP of the Yellow. So that's what I don't understand. No VPNs or anything of the likes.

young torrent
wary pivot
gentle sedge
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My Yellow seems to only reliably boot one out of every 20 times; when it works its fine, but if i power it off and back on it'll just have the red and green LEDs on solid and no output over serial console. eventually if i unplug the power and plug it back in numerous times, i'll have a succesful boot. no idea how to debug this 😮

wary pivot
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Given the shortages, I assume you haven't got a second CM4 at hand

gentle sedge
spark gull
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Still waiting on my yellow order from crowd supply and I’m looking at buying from Seed. Does anyone know how much RAM the CM4 that comes from crowd supply has?

wary pivot
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At moment no options with CM4 are available at CrowdSupply

spark gull
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I have an order I placed back in January this year, but I have no clue how much ram it’s supposed to come with.

wary pivot
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If you were able to still order a Yellow Standard with preinstalled CM4 it has 2GB RAM and 16GB eMMC storage, if it hasn't been changed by Nabu Casa or CrowdSupply

spark gull
#

Thanks! Sounds like I can get a better or cheaper one from Seeed. Go figure!
*If I ignore tariffs 😬

modest roost
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I bought from Seeed a month ago, 8gb ram and delivered in a couple of days

turbid halo
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I placed an order through digikey for 5 x 8gb ram 32gb emmc no wifi cm4 at end of may. Just got shipment notice yesterday. Seems the pipeline is filling. My last such order took 9 months.

fading forum
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Hello all, Quick question. Do I need an Aqara hun to use Aqara devices with Hemo Assistant Yellow?

mental venture
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I have a hub but since it is zigbee, I don't think you do.

wary pivot
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The Aqara Zigbee devices work directly with the Yellow's radio without extra hub.

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The Thread ones I haven't tested yet - but at least somewhen those should work too (if Thread is enabled)

mental venture
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I just got my yellow kit from seeed with the cm4 with onboard eemc, wifi, as well as a 512 gb m2. I am trying to get HAOS installed. I have hardware in place and have usb with the OS flashed to it. With the USB in, I never could get a solid red light. Sometimes an endless flashing yellow and a flashing - the yellow never turning solid. After 2 hours of abandoning that method, if I turn the yellow on without the USB installed it just goes to solid green and solid red.

I have tried to reset by plugging in, holding red button down for 10-15 seconds thinking I would get the amber light to come on. No luck. I tried holding both buttons, plugging in, waiting 10-15 seconds, unplugging also with no change.

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Is this the right place to ask this? Any other details you might need?

wary pivot
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Have you flashed the installer or the OS to your USB stick?

mental venture
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yes, I did flash it onto two USB sticks.

wary pivot
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Yes ist not an answer to an 'or' question

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OS or installer?

mental venture
wary pivot
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Well, there is an OS for the RPi 4 and the Installer for the Yellow - it needs to be the installer (just in case)

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And when you apply power to the Yellow, the red LED doesn't show a solid light and no flashing green, right?

modest roost
#

does the yellow have ethernet attached while installing? (i made the mistake to not plug the cable in while installing ;-))

mental venture
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Correct - it is "Home Assistant OS Installer for Yellow"

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Yes, I have ethernet attached while installing

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When I apply power to the yellow, the led shows solid red, heart beat yellow, and green that blinks every second.

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The USB with the installer is plugged in and the ethernet and power are also plugged in.

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This time, I got solid yellow and solid red. Which I read was a network issue. However I am plugged directly into my Eero Router and it reads it and shows it as connected. I have plugged my computer using the same ethernet and it has connected fine.

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Let me reset it because that is unusual.

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How do you troubleshoot networking issues with yellow? I wasn't getting this error before and my router no longer is seeing it hardwired to it though the green and yellow ethernet lights at the port are on.

wary pivot
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Have you restarted your router?

mental venture
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Good thinking. Let me try that.

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No luck. Router still not seeing hardwired yellow

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What is the best path forward? Remove the M.2 storage to reduce variables? I could try to reset it again by starting it up with the red and/or blue buttons pressed (though that wasn't seeming to respond before)?

wary pivot
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What m.2 are you using? It is also worth to check, if the CM4 is fully seated in its sockets - that's quite often the culprit

mental venture
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Thanks, Jorg. I doublechecked that it is fully seated. Got the satisfactory click on both sides, lights all turn on, seem good to go from that standpoint.
CM is CM4108032 and SSD is M.2 2280 SSD 512 gb - from Seeed studio

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Ok now can see IP from router. Sorry for sidetrack.

wary pivot
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No worries. Is it working now?

mental venture
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Not yet. I have the usb, Ethernet, power plugged in.

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Amber led heartbeat with green doing brief flash every second.

wary pivot
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Heartbeat is a good sign

mental venture
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How long does it stay as a heartbeat?

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No change yet

wary pivot
mental venture
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No, not yet.

wary pivot
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Ok. So it hasn't already been installed before.

mental venture
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no. I was hoping it would be that simple!

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Our internet connection is 500up/500down so I didn't think it would take so long.

fading forum
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Tanks all!

wary pivot
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The output of the serial console might give a hint what is going wrong.

mental venture
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okay - let me see if I can figure that out

mental venture
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sorry it is taking me a while. Trying to go through other means to figure out how to get you that information.

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Thank you chatGPT... 🙂

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I've gotten the GNU screen pointed to the device and I need to power it on. Should it be connected to the USB drive still? How about ethernet?

wary pivot
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With USB and Ethernet.

mental venture
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Having network trouble again.

dreamy spruceBOT
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@mental venture I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

mental venture
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Is that helpful?

wary pivot
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Not yet. Is it booting into the installer?

mental venture
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It just threw up the solid yellow networking led again. I don't know why it isn't staying connected and it isn't responding to factory reset instructions.

wary pivot
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What are the last messages in the serial console?

mental venture
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[ 63.617445] SMP: stopping secondary CPUs
[ 63.617457] Kernel Offset: disabled
[ 63.617460] CPU features: 0x200000d1,00000846
[ 63.617467] Memory Limit: none
[ 63.853250] ---[ end Kernel panic - not syncing: Asynchronous SError Interrupt ]---

wary pivot
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The system crashed

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Can you copy the complete messages and paste them to one of the following sites and link it here?

dreamy spruceBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

wary pivot
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What m.2 exactly did you order at Seeed?

mental venture
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NVME SSD 512GB(M.2 M-Key)

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I can remove the SSD and install it later.

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I have 32 gb eemc

wary pivot
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My suggestion would be to remove the m.2 and forget about the USB stick.

mental venture
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Already gone 😆

wary pivot
mental venture
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that seems to have fixed the networking issue - the router can see it now

wary pivot
fading forum
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Evidently I am missing something

mental venture
wary pivot
fading forum
mental venture
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I'm going to keep working to see if I can figure out how to flash to eMMC. I'm new to Rasberry Pi...

Thanks though @wary pivot for your help (and patience)!

wary pivot
mental venture
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It doesn't look like it's done anything beyond that

wary pivot
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If the yellow LED is steadily blinking, wait a while and let it do its thing

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Might take a few minutes

mental venture
#

how long do I give it

wary pivot
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Don't think it should take longer than 10 minutes

mental venture
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ok I'll give it a few more

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no change. Maybe I can flash it

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Just need to find an old PC I have stashed somewhere

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Nevermind. Etcher will work!

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Flash Successful and now visible!

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Do you think I could put the SSD back in now?

wary pivot
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Do the onboarding first - just to be sure everything works. After that - sure. But Seeed sells rebranded SSDs, so no clue if it is really compatible.

mental venture
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interesting. good to know.

mental venture
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Looks like I am all booted in. Thanks again for your help.

young torrent
#

Has anyone encountered Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///var/run/docker.sock. Is the docker daemon running? when entering commands in the Home Assistant CLI? Thanks to @wary pivot 's help the other day with troubleshooting the Yellow. I'm still having issues connecting to my Yellow but I believe this might be the issue.

wary pivot
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You might consider to reinstall the OS. Preferrably without SSD installed until the install and onboarding is completed (unless you are using a CM4 Lite), just to avoid possible problems. Follow option 2 of this guide:
https://yellow.home-assistant.io/guides/reinstall-os/

young torrent
wary pivot
hidden garnet
hidden garnet
wary pivot
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Thanks for the info!

hearty basin
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Hey everyone. Has anyone run into an issue with Home Assistant booting back up after the Yellow loses power or does a full system reboot? I am running the Yellow with a 32gb emmc CM4 and a Samsung NVME. I believe it could be a boot order issue since I don’t have this issue when running only on emmc. I tried the serial connection to see if anything stood out but a lot of the commands in the faq don’t work in the console, such as the ha and hassio commands.

wary pivot
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What exactly is happening?

compact quartz
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And when running from emmc is the data missing?

hearty basin
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  1. Install Home Assistant on emmc. Runs perfectly. I can reboot the host and it recovers cleanly after a power outage.

  2. install the Samsung nvme.

  3. Transfer the data to the nvme. Everything runs perfectly after. I can reboot home assistant just fine.

  4. As soon as there is a power outage or I reboot the host, home assistant doesn’t come back up. The Yellow powers on and it shows there is network connectivity but home assistant itself does not start up.

  5. When I serial in to the box after the failure in step 4, running the ha or hassio* commands hangs.

void swan
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Hello.
I've been holding down the blue and red buttons at system startup to try and reinstall os by putting a device that already has os installed in USB boot mode, but I just end up getting solid red lights regardless of whether or not I have a USB flash drive connected.
Now I can't either reflash the os or exit usb boot mode to get to the installed os, what can I do next?

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I don't have a JP2 jumper, so it's a v1.3+ version.

wary pivot
void swan
wary pivot
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What SSDs are you using?

void swan
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both try kingston/kioxia/longsys

wary pivot
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Details?

void swan
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kingston nv1 500gb pcle nvme m.2 ssd/kioxia exceria g2

wary pivot
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I would check, if the CM4 is fully seated in its sockets and install HAOS without inserted SSD

void swan
wary pivot
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Just ruling out the usual culprits 😆

fading forum
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Hello: Can someone suggest a place to get help on Google Nest Thermostat integrations.
I have followed the steps from within Hoome Assistant but I am getting the This step requires you to visit an external website to be completed pop up.
When I click I get "Can’t link to Nest Please contact Nest if the issue persists"
Help?

wary pivot
fading forum
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I went through the instructions from within Home Assistant.
And finished with an error pf sorts.
"This step requires you to visit an external website to be completed"
When i click on the link from Home Assistant I get from
https://nestservices.google.com/
"Can’t link to Nest
Please contact Nest if the issue persists"
But I have no idea where to go from here...

hearty basin
wheat depot
#

Hey there, finally managed to score a CM4… but my Yellow with PoE isn't PoEing. No LED reaction at all… I haven't plugged in a flash drive for installation yet, but shouldn't it power on anyway?

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[To be fair, no way to check if it's the CM that's borked or the Yellow, but I'd assume it would at least light up?]

timid sable
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my home assistant yellow is getting full disk, is there a way to check how much size the disk actually is through the OS ?

wheat depot
wary pivot
wheat depot
wary pivot
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Let's call it energy saving port smile

wheat depot
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Only noticed that when trying to plug in a 12V/2A splitter and not getting any solid results… Ding.

timid sable
#

Is the yellow supposed to only have 13.6 storage disk space ?

wheat depot
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Your CM4 brings the eMMC with it

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So you've probably got a 16 GB one

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And 16 marketing GB is 14.9 oldschool GiB, substract some system storage, and 13.6 sounds about rigth.

timid sable
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Thanks

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Any suggestions for expanding the storage ?

wary pivot
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NVMe m.2 drive (one of the known working ones)

timid sable
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Samsung 970 EVO Plus MZ-V7S500BW

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500gb should be way more than enough right ?

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or is it overkill ?

wary pivot
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The 250GB version would likely be enough - depending on what you are going to store

hearty basin
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Hey everyone. Is there a way to download a backup from an NVME that was being used as a data disk? I tried plugging it into my Mac with an adapter and it says it can’t read the format. How does home assistant yellow format the nvme?

wary pivot
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It's an ext4 filesystem, so you would need to add support for this filesystem to MacOS

hearty basin
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Oh ok that makes sense. Thanks.

I’ve narrowed down my issue to either my nvme or the connector on the yellow. Seems like it connects just fine to my Mac, just can’t read it.

wary pivot
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In side that filesystem you can find the docker volumes

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Which Samsung NVMe are you using?

hearty basin
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Yeah I was wrong. It’s actually a WD_BLACK SN770

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I had used a Samsung for something else, the Yellow is using Western Digital.

wary pivot
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The WD Black SN770 is known to be not compatible.

hearty basin
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Ahh well that makes sense. Well hopefully I can pull down the backup and start again on a more compatible nvme. Any recommendations? I’ll do a search too, I imagine it gets asked a lot.

wary pivot
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There are cheaper compatible NVMes, but I am recommending Samsung 970 Evo Plus, as I have tested it myself without problems.

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The Samsung 980 Pro is incompatible and the 980 (without Pro) might have issues (a big "might", as I have no reproducable proof yet - nevertheless, I wouldn't recommend it due to those potential problems)

radiant seal
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Crucial P3 CT500P3SSD8 seems to be working fine here, and was £25

fading forum
#

Hello: Can someone suggest a place to get help on Google Nest Thermostat integrations.
I have followed the steps from within Hoome Assistant but I am getting the This step requires you to visit an external website to be completed pop up.
When I click I get "Can’t link to Nest Please contact Nest if the issue persists"
I went through the instructions from within Home Assistant.
And finished with an error pf sorts.
"This step requires you to visit an external website to be completed"
When i click on the link from Home Assistant I get from
https://nestservices.google.com/
"Can’t link to Nest
Please contact Nest if the issue persists"
But I have no idea where to go from here...
Thanks in advance

wary pivot
kindred sand
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Hello. Can someone help me understand cm4 module specs of this standard home assistant yellow shop? 2gb or 4 gb of ram? 16 gb or 32 gb of eMMC? https://raspberrypi.dk/en/product/home-assistant-yellow/
Edit: found somewhere in Reddit that standard means 2gb of ram and 16gb of eMMC. It's on the lower level of recommended requirements, right?

compact quartz
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In an ideal timeline, there would be plenty of CM4 variants to choose from, go with a Kit version and pick your own CM4 but...that's not how it worked out 🙂

kindred sand
compact quartz
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It's a little more finicky to boot from NVME than it is to use it as extended storage. So I think the lite versions are kind of a headache

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So a 2 GB RAM 16 GB storage can be easily upgraded to hold more if needed but obviously the RAM is going to stay where it's at

fading forum
wary pivot
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As long as you are keep posting your question in the wrong channel, you cannot expect much more help. Your problem is not Yellow related.

fading forum
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Thanks all!

rancid quartz
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Has this problem been solved already? ConnectionRefusedError: [Errno 111] Connect call failed with the zigbee in the yellow, I've just run into it, been having stability issues with zigbee on/off for a while. 2023.7.2

rancid quartz
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nvm full reboot resolved it

wary pivot
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Are dtoverlay=disable-wifi and dtoverlay=disable-bt in config.txt not working anymore? 🤔

rancid quartz
#

Does anyone else have constant issues with thread and zigbee with the yellow, seems to go down every 24 hours or so, using Nanoleaf bulbs

serene plaza
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How is the yellow shipping situation as of late?