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timid blaze
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err, actually, I noticed something

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should my ip address of home assistant itself match (well, the subnet) of my devices?

winged knoll
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That does help

fringe moon
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Well, everything should be on the same subnet preferably

winged knoll
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Either that or you need routing and possibly mDNS reflection

timid blaze
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because it looks like home assistant is using vmware's ethernet adapter and all of these connections are trying to go to the wireless lan adapter

winged knoll
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Then you need to change your VM config

fringe moon
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That'll be a problem when you don't control any of the network

timid blaze
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i'm going to change the static ip to the other subnet and see if that helps

fringe moon
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No it won't

winged knoll
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🤔

fringe moon
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They are probably physically or logically separate

timid blaze
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i'm confused, I thought we were saying to put everything on same subnet

winged knoll
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Just randomly changing IPs may not do that though

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How do you run your subnets? Are they on the same media, but just logically separate? Different media? Different VLANs?

timid blaze
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these were automatic from vmware

fringe moon
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One is wired

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One is wireless

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You have no control over routing

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You need to put everything on the same physical medium

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That would be wireless

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They should then be in the same broadcast domain

timid blaze
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scratch that, the one home assistant is on is the vmware ethernet adapter, and the one that the devices were connecting to was my laptop's wifi hotspot

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currently have vmware using NAT instead of bridged (I know the guide said to use bridged at setup, but that never worked for me and the NAT had)

winged knoll
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Well, that's at least 90% of your problem

fringe moon
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There might also be client isolation in place

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Meaning no devices can talk to eachother

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But you'll figure that out

timid blaze
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everything is now same subnet (192.168.0.blah) and still nada

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almost positive client isolation is a thing on my campus wifi, but that shouldn't be on my phone hotspot

fair ridge
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Hi, I think about getting an Ikea symfonisk picture speaker. Can it be used without an Sonos account? I don't like such spyware things in my network.

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Or do you know something similar with Bluetooth?

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What to play local music and in future as speaker for rhasspy

winged knoll
winged knoll
timid blaze
winged knoll
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Depends on your install method, but I suspect you run HAOS and want the SSH add-on

timid blaze
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yes, OS on VMware

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so after a manual add with new ip address, I now at least SEE an entity, but it shows as unavailable

fringe moon
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Your best option is to connect a wireless router to your wired port in the dorm, then connect all devices to that one wired or wireless

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Then you have control over the edge network at least

timid blaze
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right now everything is on my phone's network, so that should be fine

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so I at least see an entity now which is a lot more than before

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but not available

fringe moon
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Well yes

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That is a fully open WiFi network

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Might not propegate mdns still

timid blaze
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oh wait, think i removed the static bit, i'll put that back

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static back, nada, still unavailable

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i've also been getting a lot of failed to send/receive control message: -110 and failed to read modem status: -100

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welp, time to sleep, maybe this will be less stupid in the (later) morning

tepid furnace
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Need som advice, ESP8266 + proximity switch to count very slow rotations of a pellet burner feeder shaft.
sensor:

  • platform: pulse_meter
    pin: GPIO5
    id: count1
    unit_of_measurement: 'pulses'

Hmmm can not find how to insert picture

winged knoll
tepid furnace
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Thks

raven glen
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I just got a Raspberry Pi 3 Model A+ and a RaspBee II. This should be good enough to get back to using Home Assistant, right?

winged knoll
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At a very basic level, yes

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Neither are a great choice, the RaspBee is fine with deCONZ and mostly ok with ZHA

hot sun
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remember to disable bluetooth on the PI though

raven glen
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I had a giftcard that had to be used either today (or maybe tomorrow) and the since it was limited to local businesses, there weren't much to choose from. Well, the local electronics store did have more powerful Raspberries, but all were out of stock. I'll replace it with something better in the future. What's a better option for a zigbee gateway?

bright jacinthBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

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raven glen
hot sun
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assuming you are going with HAOS I'll probably see you soon enough over on that channel 😛

raven glen
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I was running Home Assistant in a container, with a ConBee II connected to my computer, but it was never meant to be a lasting solution. Just to see if/how things worked. I'll probably come and bug you in #330990055533576204 once I get around to installing things.

hot sun
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If you have a Conbee II why use the RaspBee?

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Conbee II > RaspBee

fringe moon
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Anything else > *bee > cc2531

winged knoll
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(unless you're running deCONZ)

hot sun
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☔

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what's the Conbee based on?

raven glen
hot sun
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Well fair but I'm just saying if you know have both, you should go with the Conbee

raven glen
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There's also the fact that I don't know exactly where the ConBee is at the moment. It's somewhere around here, but there's so much electronics crap lying around. 😄

hot sun
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small and black, easy to hide itself

raven glen
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It does look a lot like a USB memory stick, so shouldn't be too hard to spot.

fringe moon
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Does the Conbee not have a omnidirectional antenna via sma connector?

raven glen
fringe moon
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So only onboard antenna then

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Not great probably

raven glen
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Or possibly the circuit board connector for antennas.

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Though, I doubt there's one. It's just extra cost for additional BoM items.

hot sun
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But if you have enough routers then doesn't matter as much

fringe moon
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It does it the distance to the first device is longer and / or there is a lot of interference

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Might explain why bee users have more issues

raven glen
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Mmm. The general recommendation (last I looked into it) was to get a USB extension cord so you can position the ConBee at a good location.

fringe moon
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Yes, that is always true

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It is still a less good choice

hot sun
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Especially if you have USB3 interference

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I can more or less cover 200m3 with Conbee II and currently 8 routers in the house

fringe moon
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No idea where the issues of the Conbee are, but we have more and more users come in complaining about it recently

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Especially when used with other stuff than deconz

hot sun
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I've only tried it with deCONZ primarily

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in 2 years I have maybe 2 - 3 times a real issue

fringe moon
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I've had 0 issues the last 2 years after moving to the cc1352 then the cc2652 with zigbee2mqtt

hot sun
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and partially my fault for one time moving around devices and putting it too close to USB3 ports and the other someone removed a router

fringe moon
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With 120+ devices

hot sun
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Yeah I'm no where near that

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Back then I didn't know that much on zigbee either so went with what I could get my hands on the easiest I guess

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I might have a Conbee myself but I definitely don't recommend it when I'm asked which one they should go for

raven glen
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I have a bunch of XBee modules with SMA antennas too, but those are for a very rainy day unless I get bored.

dreamy vale
glossy prism
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Negative, ghost rider

dreamy vale
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Any recommendations on an smoke alarm btw?

fringe moon
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I have a Xiaomi Honeywell smoke detector

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That is ZigBee

slender silo
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Does someone here uses Heiman Smoke Sensors?

dreamy vale
lone charm
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I'm trying to power a pi3b from 12v. I tried a 12v to 5v buck (output is USB-A) then micro USB to the Pi. The audio output on the Pi is full of noise + the intended audio. The Canakit power supply works fine. It has a ferrite bead though. Is it likely I can just add a ferrite around the micro USB cable or is the buck converter noisy and I should try something else?

fringe moon
fringe moon
cunning phoenix
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Hello in my home i would like to see the power consumption on each of the fases i have 3. what kind of hardware/meter shut i be looking for to get this working with HA?

fringe moon
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Well, if you don't have a smart meter

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You would need clamps

gloomy spoke
cunning phoenix
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i dont have a smart meter just a dump one. but after that where all my circuit breaker are i can touch it what i want and place something in front.

lone charm
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@cunning phoenix Can't do POE. Pretend like I have just a 12V DC source.

cunning phoenix
lone charm
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Yes. Mobile app. Small text. @fringe moon is who I meant.

cunning phoenix
# fringe moon You would need clamps

well instead of those clunky multimeter clams. i supose i could use 3 spools with a arduino? not sure if a nice project with this already exist

fringe moon
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Should

civic vapor
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any recommendation for a zwave adapter that will work on a rasberie

west atlas
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I’ve got an echo (4th gen) and I can’t see any of it’s entities. Any ideas why not?

timid blaze
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so update on my issue I mentioned last night:

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I ended up installing HAOS on a Raspberry Pi so that it would be running on the exact same wifi as all of the devices.

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The motion sensor now works and shows up correctly, but the oled display only shows as a device, not an entity.

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both of them show as connected to the wifi and no errors showing up in the debug window that shows up when you flash the device

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any ideas why one would work and the other not?

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I can write to the display with a lambda in the config, so it is connected properly, I just want to be able to do that directly with my automations, etc.

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(which can't happen unless it shows as an entity)

night tartan
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I just plugged in my new Home Assistant Blue, and it seems to be powered on all right, but when I go to homeassistant.local:8123, nothing appears. It's been almost a half an hour now. I just downloaded Angry IP Scanner, but I don't see anything that looks HA related.

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I was wanting to migrate off the RPI4 to the Blue, but Blue doesn't seem to want to come alive.

gloomy elbow
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Your pi is probably also saying it's called homeassistant.local 😉

night tartan
gloomy elbow
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How long ago did you do that? And did you try flushing your DNS cache on your machine?

night tartan
gloomy elbow
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Did you clear the DNS cache? That's not the same as the browser cache.

night tartan
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OK, looked up how to do it and just did it now

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No good

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Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.

We can’t connect to the server at homeassistant.local.

If that address is correct, here are three other things you can try:

Try again later.
Check your network connection.
gloomy elbow
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Check your router and see what was added to the device list at the time you connected the new device. Assuming you connected it to the network via Ethernet it will be there somewhere.

night tartan
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Thanks, I have something with a name I don't recognize, but it's not telling me when it was added.

gloomy elbow
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Well try replacing homeassistant.local with that IP address.

night tartan
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Yeah, just tried that, connection has timed out

gloomy elbow
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You'll have to check the device list for other devices again, and try rebooting HA Blue too. That might sort things out. If you can connect to it with a monitor, keyboard and mouse you'll be able to check its local IP address more easily.

night tartan
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OK, the good news is, it has an IP address now. The bad news is, still can't connect

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Good news, finally connecting. Bad news, not uploading the backup I had downloaded from my Google drive.

glossy prism
dreamy vale
plucky wind
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Hi guys, i just bought 2 ikea bulbs (LED2002G5) and I can't pair it to ZHA correctly.
It first pairs, I can control it, then few seconds after pairing it unpairs !

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Erf can't post screenshots here :( i wanted to post some of the log.

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You can see the note 0x33d0 pairing, giving info, and the "left the network".
Never had this behaviour before, even with my other 3 years old ikea bulb.
https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Ikea_LED2002G5.html
It's supposed to be supported by tasmota and z2m but not zha. Is there a known issue ? Maybe with the "no handler for ZDO" seen in the log ?

fringe moon
plucky wind
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Ah yes sorry !!

cunning phoenix
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Hello i got this thermastat: https://expo.tuya.com/product/547027

it is from tuya. i would like to be able to controll anything locally without the cloud. now i have heart you can flash some devices to tasmota and some other things? is there any guide on how to flash this devices to some other software? also what software is recomended?

fringe moon
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Yes, tasmota should be a good option

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You need to find the serial port pads / pins

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And have a serial to usb adapter

glossy prism
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that assumes it's even flashable in the first place which i suspect it wouldn't be

fringe moon
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Can't see that device is on any list

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Might just mean noone has done it before, or that it actually doesn't have an esp chip either

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Probably the latter

cunning phoenix
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how would ireconize if something is a esp ?

glossy prism
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is it already connected to your network?

cunning phoenix
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not yet. i have a spare one in a box

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it does have a "e469716" on it. although i cant see it well as it is soldered on its back

glossy prism
cunning phoenix
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alride will do wen i have a bit more time thnx

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Also if i can flash it to tasmota. Will it work? Is the firmware just universal for all those devices?

glossy prism
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tasmota/esphome would likely be tricky on that device

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i suspect it has a secondary MCU that's actually handling all of the logic, running the display, etc. and the WiFi module itself is basically a dumb pipe for networking

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of course that's just a huge assumption

cunning phoenix
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How risky is it to try? Can I backup the existing firmware?

glossy prism
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well you need to determine if it's even flashable first 😄

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you can back up the original firmware though

cunning phoenix
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True

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Alright

valid frigate
deft violet
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hey guys, I'm facing a problem with my tuya smart plug (TS011F_plug_1) ... it turns off by itself after a few minutes and doesnt turn back on automatically.

tacit pilot
turbid ocean
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nub here: US based 120V, need single and three-way dimmer smart switch support. Desire local support and it needs to fit within standard electrical boxes (i.e. shelly looks challenging to fit). Looking at the various reddit posts, youtube vids, and google searches it looks like there is a lot of churn and dissension.

Is there a Go To answer for this?

Lutron Caseta looks promising, but I got wrapped around the axle on Smart Hub vs Pro, etc.

Not afraid to program ESP boards if there is a solid established solution here. I do want switches whose failure mode is "operational" and all solutions Safe (no janky stuff).

Presently have several TPLink HS105 (smart plug) and HS200 (smart switch) devices that work fine, but I'm aware of the concern of future close off of local support. Also, TPLink Kasa doesn't have 3-way dimmer still.
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twilit matrix
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I went caseta, 0 regrets.

turbid ocean
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did you go with the Smart Bridge or the PRO bridge?

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From what I've read, the Smart Bridge sometimes gets it's local access broken through updates that change the keys and the "blackout" of capability can last weeks or months until someone figures out the new shield harmonics. Supposedly the Pro hasn't been suffering from this?

runic karma
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hey yo, got a huge problem with my just arrived tuya valves. For some reason they dont close.
Am i supposed to let them calibrate etc BEFORE i install them on the radiator? I first installed them on the radiator, then inserted batteries and let them calibrate. but regardless of what temperature i set (even 10°c) the valve's motor does something for a short while but the pin of the thermostate isn't pressed in at all so the radiator just heats at 100%. Any idea? :/

blissful void
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Hey, so I've done all the steps but when I try to upload my snapshot it loads, and then asks if I want the Full snapshot or just some parts of it. Then I choose the full snapshot but after I press "restore" on the "Are you sure you want to wipe your system and restore this backup?" nothing happens, I just end up on the same page.

tacit pilot
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Any recommendations for smart weight sensor devices? Everything I've been able to find has been very DIY and I was hoping to find something a little more ready-made

bold flax
tacit pilot
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Want my guitar equipment to come on when I pick up my guitar from the stand

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Also maybe some bed occupancy detection down the line?

bold flax
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cool!

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Yeah I'm using withings for bed occupancy but in hindsight I'd probably go another route.

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The cloud integration is just too complex/fragile.

tacit pilot
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Oh interesting. Maybe I should try searching for bed occupancy sensors and see what comes up. Though I wouldn't want to pay $100 for something to detect if my guitar is on the stand or not haha

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Anything pre-made seems to be business oriented and is insanely expensive

noble crag
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Anyone ever deal with a sonoff ifan04 randomly beeping?

dull portal
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Hello, anyone heard about thermostatic valves for M22x1,5? I have that small valves from Oventrop and Alterna and want to change for some wifi or zigbee but everyone I can find are for M30x1,5.

foggy gulch
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Maybe you can find adapters?

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Seeing m28->m30 adapters, dunno about m22

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The other recommandation I have seen was to change the valves /o\

dull portal
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I also search for adapters but cannot find. I have been in some stores but sellers tell me it's impossible :/

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Every wifi/zigbee valve have M30x1,5

winged knoll
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Time to get a plumber in then

dull portal
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Yes, meybe I will have too.

runic karma
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winged knoll
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You had an answer ... did you look into it?

runic karma
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aaah, ok i see it now, it wasn't "replied" so i wasnt notified^^°

winged knoll
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Welcome to Discord

runic karma
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i'm the person who over-used the reply button and just lately discovered how to reply without directly ping the other user xD Thanks for hinting me to the response, that already helped a lot! 🙂

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tribal talon
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Hi all, not sure if this is a right place to ask, but sill... I am looking for 220v European Double Socket (=one hole in a wall, two sockets on the wall) compatible with HA. Does they exist? Cannot find any 😦

fringe moon
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Why isn't blakaddrs list pinned in here goaKittenAngry

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I believe there are quite a few

jovial pulsar
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Well, post the link and we'll fix that.

tribal talon
tribal talon
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Wasn't helpful though... none of double sockets.

fringe moon
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Pretty sure I've seen double ones there before

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Bw-shp7 ?

tribal talon
# fringe moon Bw-shp7 ?

This is plug socket, I am looking something to put inside the wall. I am surprised who would use them, they are ugly and stick out the wall

fringe moon
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Oh

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Something like Connecte Smart outlet double?

tribal talon
fringe moon
tribal talon
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thanks a lot 👍👍👍

gray terrace
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Not totally sure if this is the right place to ask or not, but I've had a couple people on reddit recommend against using a Raspberry Pi 4 for HA. Their reasoning was that a Pi 4 gets bogged down once you start adding a few things, collecting data, etc. I'm looking for a little discussion on what to do in my specific case, if anyone is around and interested in chatting a bit about hardware with me.

ashen spire
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I'm looking for a ceiling fan & light dimmer combo that works with HA. I would go with Inovelli if they had stock. Who else makes these? I'm generally protocol agnostic but would rather not WiFi. (US 120V).

ashen spire
# gray terrace Not totally sure if this is the right place to ask or not, but I've had a couple...

the PI is a good platform for most needs. They are so good the upcoming #yellow-archived platform from the HA team is built on the Pi compute module. Issues are possible, but they are dependent on the size and complexity of your installation. You should lay out what you are doing now and where you are headed (and how fast)
The biggest issue is using SD as the disk. Use emmc or ssd for thr storage and head off early troubles.

gray terrace
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@ashen spire
So, as of right now, I have nothing in terms of HA hardware or software. I have a bunch of Echos, a few Kasa smart bulbs, some switches, stuff like that. But I'm in the last-ish stages of having a new home built and I want to make it a proper smart home, and that's why I'm looking into HA in the first place. I do have a proper server I guess I could set up with HA, but it seems pretty overkill. Ultimately, I want most or all of the lights in the house connected in some way, most of the switches and outlets etc, I want 8-12 IP cameras (that I'm planning on using Frigate for, which also suggests using dedicated hardware for...), thermostat, sprinklers, weather station... mostly everything I can have connected, I want connected.

fringe moon
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The biggest pet peeve with using a raspberry pi or similar for your home automation is that everything around it will be 30x the cost of a proper piece of hardware, raspberry pis are fine for tinkering and elementary school, I wouldn't run my house on it when I can get a minicomputer for sometimes less than a Pi with extras

gray terrace
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If I were to get a mini pc (do you have any recommendations?), would it be capable of running both HA and Frigate, do you know? I know that many cameras can get fairly demanding on Frigate.

fringe moon
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I run HA and frigate and 10 other containers plus a plethora of other services on a celeron j4105 with 12GB ram and SSD storage

gray terrace
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Can you tell me a bit about your camera setup? Number of cams, resolution/fps, etc?

fringe moon
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Average load of 1.5 with lots of headroom

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Currently 3 cameras, detection on 720 stream, recording on 1080/4k plus I have a coral in there too

gray terrace
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I'll take a little look on amazon for some mini pcs

fringe moon
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This is old hardware

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Modern hardware should be better

gray terrace
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Frigate is using 93% of your CPU? Am I reading that right?

fringe moon
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93% of a core yes

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For three cameras, because I have no quicksync on my CPU probably

gray terrace
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Will it run multi-threaded if need be? Like I said, I am looking to have 8-12 cameras.

fringe moon
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Yes

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It peaks to 130%

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You should get a coral too

gray terrace
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Yeah, I was definitely going to.

fringe moon
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I will move frigate to my other host soon

gray terrace
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Is something like this what you're referring to?

fringe moon
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Yeah, but that is even older hardware

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You'd want something from 7xxx or newer probably

gray terrace
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Something more like this?

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Trying to get an idea for budget, really.

fringe moon
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Should be usable, can probably be had cheaper used

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If you have the space and the power, older enterprise servers are ridiculously cheap

gray terrace
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I have an older(ish) server that has an i7 3770 in it. Should I be considering using that machine? It's not currently in use.

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The case it's in is friggin huge, but I could obviously buy a smaller one for this use. It was previously a NAS with like 30tb of HDDs in it.

fringe moon
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Should be fine as a start tbh

gray terrace
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My "fear" with that is just running into when I need or want to move on to something else and having to set it all back up, but now that I'm thinking about it, I guess I could just pull the drive and stick it into the new whatever.

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One issue is that it's a 700w PSU, lol.

fringe moon
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No, if you run Linux you can literally just move the os drive over to any new machine

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And a too big PSU isn't an issue

gray terrace
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Alright, so if I plugged this thing in right now, I'd honestly just pull all the drives except a SSD and format that and start fresh. Any particular OS you'd recommend? Any guides, or should I go to the respective HA/Frigate sites and start digging there? I know Frigate's dev recommends something debian based.

fringe moon
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debian

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Then docker and docker-compose

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Then ha and frigate containers

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And move on from there

gray terrace
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I really appreciate the direction. I'll tinker with things.

fringe moon
gray terrace
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I've only played with docker a very small amount, so that'll be fun at least. lol

fringe moon
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It's easy peasy, lemon lemon hurty

gray terrace
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:breadsweat:

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oh.

woeful gorge
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is this the "proper" location to ask a question about Home Assistant hardware like a bathroom fan switch? I wanna get some for the bathrooms in my new house. Having trouble finding anything but light switches. Can a light switch (simple on/off) be used in place of a fan switch?

fringe moon
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Depends on the fan

woeful gorge
crisp mauve
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The spec sheet indicates that model is compatible with simple one- or two- gang switches, so it looks like you could control it with a lightswitch.

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(You're talking about a smart relay switch like a Shelly, right?)

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Their humidity sensors look interesting... Wonder if you could also connect it to a relay switch and capture its on/off commands

gray terrace
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What are the applications of a humidity sensor? I've seen people mentioning them a bunch, what do people use em for?

tulip forge
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Best use case is in a kitchen/bathroom/laundry room to trigger the ventilation.

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or in a bedroom to trigger a humidifier depending on your area

crisp mauve
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Yeah I'd be interested in one for the bathroom, but I'd need to smarten up the exhaust first.

gray terrace
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Ooo, the exhaust fan in a bathroom is a neat idea.

woeful gorge
crisp mauve
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I'm not familiar with the HS200 but it looks like it also connects to the wiring of a dumb appliance to give control over it, as well as providing the physical switch. Is the difference that the TP Link has a builtin automation to keep the states the same?

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I'm interested in not having that behaviour lol. I haven't really made solid plans yet but I think I'd like the switches to essentially be stateless, and toggling them in either direction will toggle the lights' state irrespective of what the state really is.

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There are a lot of automations going on toggling the light state, so a physical on/off switch's state would never stay consistent with the actual light state (unless you had a smart-actuated button, which would be cool af but definite overkill)

woeful gorge
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It is super basic. it is not even a fully functioning "paddle" switch. just a spring loaded switch. so you are always pressing on the bottom part and it depresses and changes the state (on/off) accordingly.

crisp mauve
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Oh! Okay, interesting! So it's a stateless physical switch.

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Might work better for me than a Shelly actually.

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Physical switches are mostly for guest acceptance factor in my case

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Kasa platform is cloud only though right? T_T

woeful gorge
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yeah, it is a weird preference. I don't know why I feel that way but I have grown used to it and prefer it. so any wifi switch can be used for that exhaust fan?

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yes TP-Link Kasa

crisp mauve
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I think any smart relay would work with that fan, but I'm not certain. I think the TP Link would be an adequate relay for that job but I'm also not certain there

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But the key thing is you need a switch with a relay

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Or a separate switch and relay, but you need the relay to actually turn the fan on/off in response to switch events.

spice forge
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Has anyone used the Allen + Roth motorized shades from lowes?

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They went on sale and I was excited to use them in my home but I am having some issues having them "learn" their up and down position

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Was wondering if anyone else has this issue

ashen spire
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sorry fr repeating this - I'm looking for a ceiling fan & light dimmer combo that works with HA. I would go with Inovelli if they had stock. Who else makes these? I'm generally protocol agnostic but would rather not WiFi. (US 120V)

indigo charm
hard pagoda
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Hi, looking for a solid replacement to the TP-Link issue. Was just about to buy all TP-Link stuff so that sucks. Need smart plugs/bulbs. Europe based. Thank you.

winged knoll
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Zigbee FTW

hard pagoda
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I'll consider going z-wave, but zigbee isn't standardised (is it?) and there have been issues with congestion, so I don't want to go for it with everything. WiFi was okay for smart plugs as invariably they connect over powerline so no (or fewer) 2.4GHz bandwidth issues.
There's also a LinusTechTips video that somewhat highlighted other zigbee issues. Open to ZigBee if people can provide some good reasons (I guess I'll check #zigbee-archived )

winged knoll
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Zigbee has more bandwidth than Z-Wave

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LTT may have highlighted "issues", but everything has issues if you're going to go looking for them

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I can say that my Zigbee mesh has given me far less trouble, and I see far fewer delays (read, zero) than my Z-Wave mesh

hard pagoda
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On this note, does anyone have a specific manufacturer (that covers Europe andAustralia) they can recommend for either zigbee or z-wave products that (a) work offline and (b) work with HA.
Thank you 🙂

Oh and (c) don't steal your data or have dodgy parent companies...

winged knoll
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All Zigbee works offline

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As long as you pick from ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT you have nothing to worry about

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Z-Wave fits the same bucket - entirely offline and doesn't have Internet access

hard pagoda
winged knoll
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Brands... Ikea (Tradfri), Hue, Xiaomi Aqara/Mijia

hard pagoda
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Any videos, forums, or papers that have an in-depth comparison of the two ZZs, HA and compatible hardware?

To be honest I'm not that bothered about the protocol. As long as I can get hardware that works with HA, so that's the recommendations I'm looking for, cheers.

winged knoll
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No

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Z-Wave: More expensive, slower, more interoperable
Zigbee: Cheaper, faster, requires some research

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Hardware: pinned in #zigbee-archived, no equivalent for Z-Wave since it's even more regional (also, it all just works)

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If you have the budget, Z-Wave is great

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Damned expensive though

hard pagoda
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"Best" hub (USB or otherwise) for Zigbee (or both)? FYI I'm installing HA on Debian/Ubuntu as opposed to a Pi. Looking for less than $50.
Thank you.

bright jacinthBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

Command '.pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
winged knoll
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There are various messages in the pins over in #zigbee-archived that you'll want to read

tacit pilot
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Smart plug recommendations for something like this beast? Coming from a Whirlpool model LER5848E02 - 3 WIRE 120/240 VOLTS 60 Hz 28 Amps
https://i.imgur.com/rbUhjpZ.png

cold juniper
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hello , is there anything with zwave (EU not US frequencies) and zigbee on the same usb stick ?

gloomy spoke
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ones that do both tend to be older versions of both and generally discouraged

lucid orbit
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Question and a Problem: I have been using HA for three years. My cable service was form Spectrun (Road Runner) estimated speed 150mb from the WIFI. No problem with HA. I just switch to Fiber with speeds up to 1gig. Now I can not log into HA or to Proxmox. Every one of my smart switches do not respond to the Wifi. Anyone provide where I should look, I have tried a number of things.

fringe moon
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Well, if your internal network changed

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You would need to reconfigure all the devices

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Like if it was 192.168.1.0/24 and now it is 10.2.3.0/24

lucid orbit
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@fringe moon Here is another item. After the new service was connected I was using CAT 5 to the WIFI and everything worked. I ran CAT 6 to the Wifi and then the problem started. Can you setup two different Wifi's in the home. I will have to add another Google WIFI Device and run CAT 5 to it only. Thoughts?

fringe moon
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Cat of cable has nothing to do with it

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Well, google WiFi by default acts as a router, so any client on that device would be isolated from wired clients

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Or clients connected to your other access point

lucid orbit
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👍

fringe moon
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Sounds like you should read up on basic networking first, then make a decision how to design and implement your network

cold juniper
fringe moon
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Old hardware

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Tech changes fast

cold juniper
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but both of the mare zigbee and zwave

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same protocols

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and can are able to communicate with older hardware no ?

gloomy spoke
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Did you want to start with controllers that are each a generation behind?

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You could, but why?

fringe moon
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I want a new gaming computer, let's buy a Pentium pro

cold juniper
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well i am going to go on a shopping spree , i dont want to have multiple dongles

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i mean i can but i dont really want to 😒 .

so i am looking my ways .

since 2.4ghz is a crowded frequency i was looking at zwave

fringe moon
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If you select the proper channels

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It is fine

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ZigBee > zwave imho

cold juniper
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zwave communicate on a different freq tho

fringe moon
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I can buy four ZigBee devices for the price of one zwave

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Doesn't matter, if you manage your frequencies, the interference of 2.4 is not an issue

cold juniper
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fine , which wifi channel wont make lots of interference ?

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(and that is only if there is no other wifi at the channel around me 😒 )

fringe moon
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Depends on your surroundings

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Do a frequency analysis

cold juniper
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i am looking at aliexpress , zwave are not 4x of a zigbee device

fringe moon
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It will be if you buy proper hardware, compare branded products

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Also zwave doesn't have bulbs

cold juniper
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this is the reason of having dual freq xD

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what are proper hardware vs branded product , i didnt get that

fringe moon
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Look at any certified local zwave and ZigBee products, because looking at the cheapest options from China are a great way to start a fire hazard

cold juniper
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in my country there is not really an option , there is only one store that sale "chines" zigbee product and they ask for x3 the price compare to aliexpress

fringe moon
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Your local electro companies have no zwave or ZigBee products?

cold juniper
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nah xD

lucid orbit
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@fringe moon You were right the IP Address of the new Fiber Modem has changed. Now, since I can not log into HA or Proxmox how do you change their IP Address or do I need to start from scratch? Is it possible to change the IP Address on the Interenet Modem?

cold juniper
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@lucid orbit yes it is , if those are local ips

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depend on the router ofc

and depending if you created vlans

lucid orbit
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Thanks

cold juniper
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@lucid orbit instead of going through all ur devices and change their ips to the new router ip , i would rather change the router ip to what it were , device will automatically sync and communicate to it , less work on your part

lucid orbit
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I agree, I will have to contact the Internet Supplier for access to the Modem.

cold juniper
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you can do it yourself tho , instead of waiting for them .

but ok 😉

lucid orbit
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I would love doing it if I knew how.

cold juniper
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if you want to try it urself ,

lookup the on google the device model that you have , search for a manual of sort , search there for DHCP , usually it will tells you where to look for and where to go on the device .

inthere you should change the ip that u had . nothing more nothing less .

lucid orbit
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Thank you on it now.

half arch
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Did you get an answer on this? I have one of those alarm clocks and could look at the output with a multi-meter. (I don't have a o-scope 😦 )

ocean wolf
boreal oar
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I have a schlage zwave and its almost instant

fringe moon
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I DIYed mine with esphome @boreal oar

lost canopy
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Anyone with experience with power supplies with multiple 5V rails? I need to do several power injections, as I've got a long light run I'm trying to do (close to 50 feet).

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it's SK6812, so recommended injection every 2.5 meters, but I'd like to avoid having to stack like 5 power supplies in a tray if I can. Currently using a Feather Huzzah as a test attempt, but it might be necessary to get a more powerful board if it can't handle all those LEDs.

fringe moon
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I have 700 5v LEDs on my house right now

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I inject every 10 meters roughly

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Using two power supplies on either side of the house

lost canopy
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no problems with voltage drop? These are pretty dense, so I figured it might run out sooner.

fringe moon
lost canopy
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first off, that's pretty damn neat looking

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secondly, thanks for the input; I was operating off this chart from smarthomehookup

fringe moon
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I can draw my injections points

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Plus the main input of signal and power is on the far left side

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These LEDs

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NOK 80.33 36%OFF | 50leds 12mm WS2811 2811 IC Full Color Pixel LED Module Light input DC5V IP68 waterproof RGB color Digital LED Pixel Light
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mL48lSe

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Might be closer to 6m average for injection

lost canopy
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Hmmm, interesting

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mine are 144 per meter, due to their specific use case

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lot less distance, though.

pine apex
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Does anyone have any remote recommendations? I had to reset my phone and my Harmony Hub will no longer connect to the app on my Pixel nor my wife's iPhone. The desktop software is no longer supported on MacBook either and after configuring it on Windows it keeps failing to sync even with the hub physically plugged in... I'm done

fringe moon
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Smart appliances with native control?

pine apex
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Just looking for control over TV, soundbar, Shield but also want to be able to turn on and off Hyperion (ambient lighting) and basement lights through HA

fringe moon
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Soundbar has CEC? TV has Ethernet? If so that would be easy

pine apex
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Won't connect the TV to the internet, it's a Samsung TV that gets plagued with ads and “smart functions” as soon as it gets connected to the internet. I factory reset it and won't make that mistake again unfortunately

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Soundbar does have CEC but I'd prefer optical sound, I'm looking for an IR remote that has a hub I can integrate into HA

fringe moon
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Just block it in the firewall

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Problem solved

pine apex
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Seems like Broadlink has Universal Remote hub with a HA Integration

fringe moon
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It works fine, just remember to stop the app setup before it connects to cloud

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I use it for my upstairs heat pump and AV

naive citrus
fringe moon
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Local control is instantaneous

pine apex
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Apparently Broadlink doesnt actually have a physical remote though...

fringe moon
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I use the Apple TV remote for everything I need in both living rooms long live CEC

pine apex
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The Samsung TV remote won't control both the Shield and the Soundbar

fringe moon
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I don't even know where my AV or TV remotes are ThinkEyes

pine apex
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Plus I have only 2 actual input ports so I need a IR switch and they all feed into Hyperion so CEC kind of goes away with that

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I get that that's what works for you, but I need IR and a physical remote for them

boreal oar
fringe moon
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Nah, I wanted to smartify my 30 year old opener

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And esphome + protoboard is all I need for that

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Simple relay hat

boreal oar
#

hmm seems you only have to worry if your motor has a yellow learn button, which means you've got a security 2.0+ system

gray terrace
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Today, if I am building a new Home Assistant setup on an old PC running HA in a container on Debian, is it best to get two separate dongles for zwave and zigbee (something like a z-stick and conbee2), or the combined nortek stick, or some flavor of hub (like the Aoetec)? I've read lots of opinions on this stuff around places like reddit, but I also know this space is moving fast and a lot of what I read is probably old (for example, I read something about the widely-recommended nortek stick being outdated and flashing firmware requiring opening the case and shorting some pins...), so I'm wondering what people's opinions today are.
(forgive me if this isn't a good place for this question)

cold juniper
fringe moon
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Do CC2652 for ZigBee and Aeotec 5 for zwave (if there is a localised version for your location)

cold juniper
fringe moon
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Running zigbee2mqtt and zwavejs2mqtt @gray terrace

fringe moon
gray terrace
fringe moon
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Yes

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Zwave has its own frequencies for us compared to eu

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ZigBee is the same everywhere

gray terrace
cold juniper
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@gray terrace i think you can get a zigbee for cheaper

gray terrace
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Just new to this stuff and wanting to learn what I can

cold juniper
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i've put one into my favorit one sec

gray terrace
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Most of the ones on the pinned list are out of stock D:

cold juniper
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@gray terrace

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002875838019.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.70383c00vG9XGu&dp=cbk4pzevg7aqg1glebvbeap&cv=gooteis&aff_fcid=f011823bed1a482192a74837f97a56d8-1639261480059-06596-Ybe6y3B&aff_fsk=Ybe6y3B&aff_platform=aaf&sk=Ybe6y3B&aff_trace_key=f011823bed1a482192a74837f97a56d8-1639261480059-06596-Ybe6y3B&terminal_id=0847d94e233b4c4b95dc7362de6a809a

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003637706867.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.70383c00vG9XGu&dp=cbk6pzevg1aqg1mborvroba&cv=gooteis&aff_fcid=689506ea36334b129d19fbfc6203acdb-1639261522692-09488-Ybe6y3B&aff_fsk=Ybe6y3B&aff_platform=aaf&sk=Ybe6y3B&aff_trace_key=689506ea36334b129d19fbfc6203acdb-1639261522692-09488-Ybe6y3B&terminal_id=0847d94e233b4c4b95dc7362de6a809a

gray terrace
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Both of those, sadly, wouldn't get here for a month.

cold juniper
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second one is way cheaper

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you know lots of ebay sellers are using drop shipping , so it will arrive the same way as aliexpress

gray terrace
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The page suggests 79% chance it takes a week or less, but obviously that isn't concrete, lol.

cold juniper
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you allways have amazon prime tho no ?

gray terrace
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I do have prime, yes.

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I haven't seen any CC2652 dongles on amazon, though.

keen ibex
#

So, following @plush orbit doorbell guide, how do we turn the gpio relay switch into a button? should the change be made in the esphome config?

thin sigil
#

Can anybody recommend some energy monitoring hardware for tracking my mains power usage. Mains plus branch circuits. Preferably something not requiring cloud connectivity to work. I'm in Canada so 120v split-phase. I'm liking what I see for iotawatt so far, but looking for input from folks that have used it, or recommendations for alternatives.

fresh sorrel
# thin sigil Can anybody recommend some energy monitoring hardware for tracking my mains powe...

I've used Sense (crap) and built my own with a Pi, CT and open energy monitor (a lot of work and annoying)...I ended up buying IoTaWatt, and don't regret a second of it. Not perfect, but short of using wired monitors, I would recommend. It's a nice balance of control but ease of use, install and expense. It's not out of the box simple, but not super complex either. I have mine sending direct to InfluxDB and integrated with HA. Love it so far.

thin sigil
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@fresh sorrel Thanks for that. I was originally planning on rolling my own with an esp and a bunch of CT inputs logging to mqtt, but I saw iotawattt and figured if it worked well, it would save me a ton of time and frustration. Literally everything else I've seen requires some kind of cloud connection to work.

fickle pier
#

Hey everyone, I'm accessing my homeassistant over IPv6 and dynv6 but on http. I'm looking forward to switch to https but don't know how. Any ideas? 🙂

winged knoll
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You'll need something to manage your domain and SSL certificates - there are #add-ons-archived for that if you run that way

fickle pier
distant silo
fading rivet
#

i'm looking to find a good motion sensor (hardwire, 24v or 5v) that connects to ha. i used the HC-SR505 motion sensor on a d1 mini but the range is way too short

lone bough
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same here

#

looking for a cable powered motion sensor that uses zigbee or rf

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unless there is one with amazing battery life out there

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using zigbee2mqtt

civic vapor
#

Does anymone has some way to get the metric on home assistant performance. Trying to evaluate to use Home Assistant to control DMX light. looking for near real time scene change

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Perhap I will need to write a plug in to send information on the track playing

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bottom line trying to use home assistant for live djing 🙂

merry ginkgo
#

apologies if this is a wildly inappropriate place to ask, but I am looking for recommendations on a security floodlight. it seems from my limited research that i might be better off just taking a dumb light and making it smart with something like a shelly and a motion sensor, is this correct? id rather not deal with any cloud integration for this which i am assuming leaves out the ring, halo, nest, eufy, and eero flood lights (all too expensive anyway), and it doesnt seem like any other smart home vendors make a basic zwave or similar light that exposes light + motion sensor. end goal is to let it turn on with motion sensing and hold for some predetermined amount of time, or alternatively override the motion sensor via smart home integration. eventually would be nice to trigger on camera detected motion as well.

remote ember
gray terrace
#

Anyone know if you actually need the aqara hub to use aqara products if you have a zigbee dongle?

craggy void
hollow lance
green pine
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Anybody know of any temperature sensors that are decent? Ideally Wifi, I dont have any non-wifi things atm, and idealy something thats not battery powered, or at least somewhere where I can easily take the back of and connect my own power supply to battery tabs, I hate coin cell batteries

hollow lance
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A DHT22 connected to an esp8266/esp32

green pine
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Thanks, that looks like it would be the way to go, though I may use a Raspberry Pi instead, I'm wanting to put one in 3 rooms that are all super close, means I could just use 1 Pi instead of 3x esp8266 boards

hollow lance
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8266’s are dirt cheap

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But whatever floats your boat 🙂

fringe moon
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Shit, i could buy 70 esp8266 for one low-end pi

real spear
#

I'm thinking of adding sound to my home assistant, I'd like to have remote speakers in several parts of the house, able to play individualised or synchronised music and maybe some TTT announcements. I'm not above soldering some ESP32s, but only entry-level. I would prefer to not be beholden to some corporate overlord. (i.e. Echo or Alexa)

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Any suggestions for reading/watching stuff about this?

winged knoll
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Sonos is good

real spear
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Sonos is also expensive...

winged knoll
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Do you have Ikea?

real spear
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There's an Ikea not far from my home, yes.

winged knoll
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Then buy some Symfonisk, they're Sonos, but from Ikea

real spear
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Might give that a try.

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Thank you

proven girder
winged knoll
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They're Sonos inside, so ... yes

proven girder
#

Yeah just wasn’t sure how well sonos worked in HA

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Its on my todo list to possibly get

hollow lance
#

Holy shit

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I had no idea symfonisk was a thing

#

These are half the price of regular Sonos!

fringe moon
#

Yes

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And loud as hell

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Mine stays as >10% volume at all times

hollow lance
#

🤔

fringe moon
wind mist
#

But can they be controlled locally or do they need internet access?

winged knoll
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Check the IoT Class of the integration and see

wind mist
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Local push, nice!

lucid orbit
#

Question about the DCHP settings. If your internet provider can’t or won’t change it, can this be done by a router?

winged knoll
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DHCP settings where?

fringe moon
lucid orbit
#

I just change my service to fiber and the modem has a different address. I have 50 smart switches that was set up to 192.168.86.1. And they will not connect.

winged knoll
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Then that router should have settings for the LAN IP range

fringe moon
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If you had bridged your router modem you could have run whatever internal network you wanted anyway by running your preferred router software

winged knoll
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And if you're on fibre you should be easily able to switch the router

fringe moon
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Should be

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But I've heard horror stories from some countries

winged knoll
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Even here it's simple ... mostly, if you're not using BT anyway ablobjoy

lucid orbit
#

I don’t have a router I have a switch. Do I need to replace the switch with a router?

winged knoll
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The thing from your ISP is a router

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What's the make and model? What's your ISP?

lucid orbit
#

I’m not home will resume in an hour.

spice forge
#

Has anyone used the new move motor pro from blinds to go?

bold flax
#

When I use tasmotize, I can flash fine but the config never seems to be sent. Any tricks?

drifting grove
#

Is the only way to get my Bluetooth dongle working to completely upended my supervised home assistant for core? That's kinda whack. I want to integrate this into my boss's home assistant instance. He has spinal muscular atrophy so this is a top priority.
https://github.com/roger-/FS20F

I looked into esphome for Bluetooth. The whole packet processing thing intimidated me, but I'm not ruling it out.

Any suggestions?

#

I really never expected to run straight into a brick wall 🧱 when I told my boss to simply buy a Bluetooth dongle to plug into the odroid xu4.

woeful ridge
#

Hello people! This is officially my first message on Discord. I am currently not running HA as I am running smartthings. I am looking to switch, I have a few questions if there is anyone that wants to answer a couple?

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btw, i'm not sure if messaging like this even works on discord, so let me know if I am in the wrong spot.

leaden glacier
#

Uh does this seem normal?

#

HUSBZB-1 and Zigbee isn't firing up

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Can't post screenshot here but my USB devices show up as ttyACM0 and ttyAMA0

valid frigate
stuck cypress
#

Would this channel here be the right one to ask about a hue problem that I have? It turns on from time to time and also sometimes when on, it turns off for 2-3 seconds and then back on. No idea why and I am wondering how I can start debugging this, as it starts getting a bit on my nerves 😉

winged knoll
#

Hue what?

stuck cypress
#

Philips Hue lights

winged knoll
#

And you're using the Hue hub, or something else?

stuck cypress
#

yes, the hue hub

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i have no idea if the problem is home-assistant or not...

#

i am just wondering where to start digging to find out

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maybe somebody has an idea?!?

winged knoll
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Easy way to tell if it's HA or not - look in the Logbook

stuck cypress
#

ok... that seems to be the case... it says it's triggered by one of my HA automations...
i will need to do some digging why that happens... thx..

midnight ibex
#

Hey there!
So it is going to happend, I am going to buy a flat! 🙂
A flat that needs to be renovated, so I can go full smart home from the ground up.
I would Like to use HA as the “brain” I think it is awsome, the key values are great, so the future is promising.
So far I wanted to use a ton of shelly 4pm pro-s. But I just came across KNX protocoll.
My guestion is that is there somebody that used any knx device with HA? Can I get some inputs. Are they better than shelly? Does the worth the price differences? 🙂 Can someone recommend me a knx manufaturer and produts? I know there lot of wall switch panels with displays and sutch..
Thank guys!

stuck cypress
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Hey @midnight ibex ... I am using mainly KNX components in my house

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it's something that's hard to but inside an existing house, as you need real cables, but it's working super reliable

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I use knx to trigger automations inside HA and vice versa...
except my current problem with hue lights (which started 1 month ago... not sure why) i have no problems at all with that solution

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i would always go with something like knx versus shellies, as is't somethng super reliable... and... it works even when my HA is down for whatever reason...

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my components are mainly from MDT and ABB... and my switches from Ling&Janke (they are cheap, offer sensors inside them and look like regular switches... highly recommended... always think of the partner-acceptance-factor... 😉 )

drifting grove
winged knoll
#

See your install method channel

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configuration -> Info -> Installation Type

broken flower
midnight ibex
midnight ibex
midnight ibex
broken flower
inner swan
#

are there any known issues with zeroconf (i.e. multicast) and raspberry pi 3? strangely none of my zeroconf stuff was working (like multicast wasn't making it out of the box)... I enabled wifi and zeroconf suddenly started finding everything... seems like this behavior was somewhat intermittent before and became a hard fail recently

fringe moon
#

Multicast is generally intermittent in my experience outside of controlled environments

inner swan
#

mDNS is a pretty common and pervasive thing, though

fringe moon
#

Unfortunately yes

brittle creek
#

i just noticed my tuya cloud trial for my cheap smartlife/tuya plugs expires next year. i'm looking into replacements but am honestly overwhelmed. I'm in the US and have been looking at z-wave (to not interfere with wifi), but my head is spinning trying to decide on a brand of AC plugs and smart light switches to use (and a hub, of course). does anyone have a recommendation for plugs and switches on a budget? i'm hoping to not spend more than $15 per smart plug. thanks.

fringe moon
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Do you need metering or only on off plugs?

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My ikea Tradfri have been solid, and ZigBee > wifi

twilit falcon
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Alexa keeps giving me notifications about the news and I can’t figure out how to turn it off in the Alexa app

brittle creek
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it's all local and works with HA natively?

glossy prism
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Well, it's local if you use a zigbee stick and one of the zigbee integrations

split sentinel
# brittle creek i just noticed my tuya cloud trial for my cheap smartlife/tuya plugs expires nex...

I just recently stepped into z-wave with a First Alert Smoke/CO detector, I don't think you need to bother with a hub, you can get a z-wave or zigbee (whichever tech you decide, or both) stick to plug directly into your HA installation unless you're running it on a VM.

Secondly, for tyua devices, have you checked the tyua local integration available via HACS? I'm controlling all of my tyua devices locally.

brittle creek
fringe moon
brittle creek
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I'm just floored how nice this loca tuya add-on is. the default setup using the cloud was flaky the last few days. now they're instantly and reliably toggled.

silver vessel
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Hi all! What's the current recommendation for a robot vacuum? My Eufy 15C is some years old now (and also not compatible anymore), so I'm thinking about upgrading. The Xiaomi roborocks seem neat, but also a tad expensive. I paid 180€ for my Eufy and honestly wouldn't want to pay too much more again.

zealous dune
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Look at Dreame D9

main vigil
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does anyone know of a remote button that could connect to home assistant to trigger devices when pressed?

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something like a car remote fob?

brittle creek
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@main vigil I'm curious as well

main vigil
spice forge
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So i managed to get my logs from my BLE device, the move motor pro and I believe Identified what the servies and method UUID are but it seems the value changes randomly.

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Anyone have good resource to help figure it out?

fringe moon
violet sorrel
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Ok, thanks, I'll move it...

long bolt
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does anyone have a recommendation for a fast updating plug that has power consumption reporting built in? In the US, looking for wifi/zigbee under $50ish. Trying to tell whether a device like a TV/washer/dryer is on or off by power draw.

main vigil
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The sonoff s31 seems to work well. Make sure you don't get the light version as it doesn't have power monitoring.

glossy prism
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It's also very easy to flash with Tasmota or ESPHome

long bolt
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what advantages does Tasmota/ESPHome have over whatever's on there?

glossy prism
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Full control of the device hardware, you can have on-device automations (called rules in the case of Tasmota), MQTT control

long bolt
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do sonoffs work with HA w/o the custom firmware?

glossy prism
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I think that requires the sonoffLAN custom integration

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But I'm not sure. I use tasmota 😄

long bolt
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when you say very easy to flash with Tasmota, do you mean very easy to take apart, solder, and flash? Or is there another method?

glossy prism
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Disassembly is required, but no soldering is required (you can use electronic test leads with the clips on the end)

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They're easy to disassemble too. No glue or anything

long bolt
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hm. I'll look into it. Thanks for the suggestion.

tranquil solstice
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Does anyone know how to rotate the 7 inch touch screen on the PI running home assistant?

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Pi that is running home assistant is also the pi that has the touch screen connected to it

tranquil solstice
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Never mind.. found it.. it was in /mnt/boot

violet wigeon
#

Has anyone used the new Shelly Plus 1 with MQTT yet? I just got mine installed the other day but it won't communicate over MQTT like my other Shellies

weak belfry
weak belfry
drifting grove
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Hi, i dont know if i am on the rigth place here. But it looks like that my HA Blue rom HArdkernel has toasted the CPU durning an restart. but i am out of the ONLY 8 weeks of waranty.

winged knoll
fringe moon
wind mist
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Anyone got experience with Ikea Symfonisk wifi speakers? How’s the sound quality? Can you use it via HA without it having internet access?

winged knoll
wind mist
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Yeah, I know the connection between them and HA is local, but some devices like that still refuse to work without internet, so i thought i would check with someone that had one

winged knoll
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Well, they're basically Sonos devices

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You need working Internet to set them up, and to configure them, but they should work fine locally otherwise

wind mist
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Gotcha, thanks

fringe moon
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They are damn loud

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Max 10% in my office

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Gonna buy a second one and pair them for stereo though

toxic locust
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Can anyone tell me how to wire up this PZEM-004T 3.0 the datasheet shows two completely different wiring pinouts and then when I've looked further I've found a third.....

naive quartz
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any smart plug recommendations

glossy prism
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Where are you located, and what protocol are you looking for?

naive quartz
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I have no home automation footprint currently so I'm pretty flexible

fringe moon
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Even country is flexible?

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Interesting ThinkEyes

naive quartz
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oh whoops

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I forgot that's a thing lol, US

glossy prism
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That's why I asked where you're located 😂

hollow lance
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Will move to wherever is easiest

fringe moon
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I hear home automation is simple in Australia

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Moving now

tepid heart
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It's true. Not many people know that the topsoil in Australia is composed entirely of tiny venomous spiders. The spiders have recently developed a hive mind that likes to code and help out with home automation. Their Internet isn't very good though so you may have trouble contacting them.

bold flax
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Speaking of Sonoff, I just got 2x NSPanels today

long bolt
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I just don’t have any of that stuff and I’m not sure I need to spend the money versus using the sonoff lan add on

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Was doing some additional research to understand the advantage of tasmota

bold flax
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@zealous dune do you have any use for photos of the vertical style NSPanel?

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If I do a teardown

bold flax
wind vale
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@plush bolt Philips Hue outdoor motion sensor. Give lux, temperature and movement.

zealous dune
sonic venture
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Hi. I have one question. What is safe temperature CPU on raspberry pi with running background HomeAssistant + Adguard + DuckDNS?

fringe moon
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On what pi

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And you of course have either heatsink or fans on it

sonic venture
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I have heatsink. I just removed FAN because too noise

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for now I have 59-63 C

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I think it is safe?

fringe moon
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I wouldn't run anything I care about on a pi, so unsure, but doesn't sound unreasonable for the platform

sonic venture
twilit wing
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Would Home Assistant run on a Mac Mini Server from 2009?

fringe moon
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Does it run Linux?

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Sure

twilit wing
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CPU is a core 2 duo

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It should be able to run Linux. Docker I'm not sure though

fringe moon
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If it can run Linux it will

twilit wing
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I wonder if it would be more powerful than my current install of Hass OS on a raspi 3B

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More reliable probably, at least

fringe moon
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At least the latter

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C2D is an old beast

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It will probably be the same / slower than a pi in relative CPU performance

twilit wing
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Then there's no point, I'll let the old little guy sleep in its box 🙂

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Thanks

fringe moon
#

There are probably a lot of used nuc and similar systems that can be used

twilit wing
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yup. found a fanless mini pc with a gemini lake n4100 for 180 euros, that ought to do the trick

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so I got a Conbee II in the mail, and I just learned that there's a better chipset now and cheaper too

fringe moon
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My condolences for the Conbee

twilit wing
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bought on amazon and unused so I'll return it, no problem with that

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just a bit annoyed that the zbdongle-p is 40 euros too, when it's 10 on aliexpress and $11 on itead 😐

fringe moon
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The sonoff dongle seems to have mixed reviews, probably down to build quality

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I love my zzh and tubes cc2652 is very good too

twilit wing
#

what are the searchable product ids for those?

winged knoll
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Just avoid CC253x boards

twilit wing
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is it a good idea to get a LAN version? I'm thinking that way it would be an independent device

fringe moon
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I would have if I did a new device now so I could kill my raspberry pi

twilit wing
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because you have the thing as a pi-hat?

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alright, getting a Z-Bee Duo with the 4-parts case that allows all kinds of usages. with my luck, a new chipset is released in a month or so 😅

#

what's the good thing to buy for z-wave nowadays? (got some z-wave things to control the heating)

winged knoll
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Something with a 700 series chipset

twilit wing
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thanks

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so I have bought two Shelly 1PM a few weeks ago, but it seems that they require using their cloud? I thought they supported z-wave

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ah no, supports mqtt. ok.

twilit wing
#

I don't suppose anyone got a discount code for tindie? 😄

hushed light
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Hey people 🙂 !

Can i trust sonoff devices that connect via WLAN?
Or should i just block network access with my firewall by default?

fringe moon
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If you don't trust a device, add it to the alias that is denied internet access

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Only devices I do that for are the Chinese Poe cameras i have

hushed light
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good call with the alias 🙂 thx. Ill make a IOT VLAN which has internet access and just block the ones i dont want with the alias 😄

fringe moon
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Eh, iot vlan introduces the issue of multicast devices not working as intended

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I use a isolated vlan when I want to investigate a devices behaviour

bold flax
# zealous dune Depends on the differences

Is there any place you'd recommend discussing NSPanel configuration? Trying to figure out how to change the screen to vertical orientation and also, if I set the degrees to F, it shows the Celsius value with F next to it.

tall stirrup
#

is there an zigbee repeater via lan?

glossy prism
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Nope

tall stirrup
#

youre everywhere ;-P

gloomy elbow
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a smart drawer/cabinet lock? Ideally Zigbee or Z-Wave, I just want something for some medication and jewellery.

oak thicket
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@gloomy elbow can you ping me if you found some ?:3

gloomy elbow
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I will do, but in the mean time I ordered a bluetooth.

oak thicket
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^-^

fringe moon
#

I would say DIY @gloomy elbow

hollow lance
#

I’ve always felt drawer locks were only for keeping kids and honest people out

fringe moon
#

I've never had them, but I store medication on shelves

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Which, now with two kids is a good idea

gloomy elbow
#

This isn't intended to hold up against great force or similar. Just keep some medication that is very much only for me out of the way.

fringe moon
#

So an esp + relay / servo + latch

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Should be doable

zealous dune
drifting grove
#

Hi guys,

I've been using the search, but can't find a clear answer:

Would a HP T620 or T630 thin client be a noticeable upgrade from my Raspberry Pi 3B 1GB?

I like how it runs on the Pi. But I'd like a bit more RAM.

winged knoll
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Yes

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Even without knowing the CPU, RAM, or other details it's an easy yes

bold flax
# zealous dune Discuss what?

I'm having difficulty understanding how to control my other devices for instance. Lights, thermostat, etc. I have it on mqtt. It seems to be stuck on Celsius too.

drifting grove
# winged knoll Even without knowing the CPU, RAM, or other details it's an easy _yes_

Good to hear. I have two options:
AMD G-Series GX-415GA SOC: quad-core APU
1.5GHz
Radeon HD 8330E graphics

AMD G-Series GX-217GA SOC: dual-core APU
1.65GHz
Radeon HD 8280E graphics

The dual core is sold for 35euro. The quad for 42euro.
Both have 4GB DDR3L-1600 RAM.

Should I prefer the higher clock speed, or the 2 extra cores if I use it for HA only?

#

Basically, I trying to decide how much money to spend. I'd like to use the server for (simple) NAS purposes as well. The 2 USB3 ports are very convenient for it. Will such a device handle that is well? Or should I invest more in a NUC-like more modern device? I'm willing to spend, but it has to have a decent bang-for-my-buck, like the T620 for example.

fringe moon
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The 415 is barely snappier than a rpi

#

But at least it has a usable storage system

obtuse raven
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@fringe moon RPi can have a usable storage system (mine's got a usb3 m.2 enclosure as the boot drive, with a 1TB stick in it)

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But that's a bit of a costly setup 😄 Though still cheaper than an Intel NUC where I'm at.

fringe moon
#

Yeah, I have standards DogeWink

trim oak
#

Hey, just curious if there are any particular smart plugs that are recommended?

proven girder
#

Country, type of connection you want

#

Two important parts missing

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(The latter being local wifi, cloud, zigbee, etc)

drifting grove
# trim oak Hey, just curious if there are any particular smart plugs that are recommended?

Assuming you are OK with WiFi, this one has been working fine for me.:
€ 7,98 48%OFF | Smart Plug WiFi Socket EU 16A Power Monitor Timing Function Tuya SmartLife APP Control Works With Alexa Google Assistant Yandex
https://a.aliexpress.com/_vkEIEA

The only downside is that using the original Tuya, the Consumed Energy (kWh) only updates once every 15min. Not every 5s like Voltage, Current and Power. I read that using localtuya it can update more often, but haven't tried it yet.

glossy prism
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The other downside is it's Tuya

obtuse raven
#

Any particular reason to dislike Tuya apart from "It's Tuya"? Potential external usage tracking shenanigans or something?

cold moon
#

I think he’s just giving him shit

cold moon
fringe moon
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@obtuse raven not cloud > cloud

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I frankly don't care if people get to know my power usage on an appliance, but having to rely on a service that can be killed anytime, for any reason

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I'll pass

obtuse raven
#

Fair.

bold flax
fringe moon
#

Too bad modern tuya devices can't run tasmota

#

Without replacing the internal chip

#

Which makes it too bothersome

drifting grove
#

Or does it still need the tuya cloud to function then?

fringe moon
#

Sounds like a great way to do local stuff, that apparently can be killed at any moment too

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NOTE - Nov 2020: If you plan to integrate these devices on a network that has internet and blocking their internet access, you must also block DNS requests (to the local DNS server, e.g. 192.168.1.1). If you only block outbound internet, then the device will sit in a zombie state; it will refuse / not respond to any connections with the localkey. Therefore, you must first connect the devices with an active internet connection, grab each device localkey, and implement the block.

bold flax
fringe moon
#

So sometime in 2025 with limited features

bold flax
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Probably

winged knoll
#

Local Tuya still requires things talk to their cloud service so you can get the magic, and that gives them the opportunity to remove or break that ability

#

Other brands have done that

bold flax
fringe moon
#

A lot of people call me a pessimist, in reality I'm a realist

winged knoll
#

Frankly it's so much easier to buy stuff that's already local only

fringe moon
bold flax
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The sonoff s31s seem to be my plug of choice. Easy to flash. Still looking for switches.

fierce finch
#

the S31S lite looks very nice indeed

shell coral
#

Hello guys i have 2 android v7/8 phones with 4gb ram (yet cracked yet working screens)lying around and just see them as good candidates for hass. I came across a few guides, one the following. Anyone having experience with such hardware has any other advise or better guide? (i already run hassio on VM but dont wanna run PC whole day. So instead of pi thought to use this)
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/home-assistant-core-on-android-tablet/250174

Another https://lucacesarano.medium.com/install-home-assistant-hass-on-android-no-root-fb65b2341126

fringe moon
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Yeah

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Don't

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Any laptop or minicomputer from the last decade will be a great choice

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Unless it is older gen atom or strange soc

proven girder
winged knoll
sharp stirrup
#

Salut Je prévois d'acheter un syno NAS DS2* ou équivalent Avez-vous un conseil pour choisir le bon modèle DS220+ (ou DS218play si compatible et performances acceptables) J'ai vu que Synology virtual a une limite de 2 licences pour le numéro dsm virtuel. Y a-t-il un impact pour hass.... Tout conseil est bon pour moi...

Hi I plan to buy a syno NAS DS2* or equivalent Do you have any advice on choosing the right DS220+ model (or DS218play if compatible and acceptable performance) I saw that Synology virtual has a limit of 2 licenses for the virtual dsm number. Is there an impact for hass.... Any advice is good for me...

finite grail
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Hi all , Quick question, I had HA on a Pi 3b+, but it kept freezing every 20 hours or so, so i moved it to a VM on my windows Media machine as it is on 24 hours, but i would really like to make HA independent and wifi if possible, any ideas.

winged knoll
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WiFi isn't for servers

finite grail
#

@winged knoll so you are saying HA should not be on Wifi at all?

winged knoll
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Correct

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Wire servers and cameras - or anything else that doesn't move

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WiFi is for devices that move, like laptops and phones

finite grail
#

My Pi was LAN, and my VM is also LAN, but the problem is, If i am not home, and we have some fantastic thunderstorms here in South Africa, My 24 Port Switch gets it brains scrambled, so nothing on my LAN has internet, but i still have my Mesh, so i was hoping to find a solution that would allow me to still have HA that could tell me if it was having trouble pinging my Media PC then i could just reboot my Switch via a Sonoff device

fringe moon
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Buy a UPS

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Also, yes, run HA on dedicated hardware

finite grail
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@fringe moonthe switch is on a UPS, so was the Pi, Also i was asking if there was a suggestion to what dedicated hardware should i be looking at

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@fringe moon it is not because the power goes out, the thunderstorms here are so intense that a huge clap of t6hunder will just make the switch stop responding, i have to reboot it to make it come right, and of course if i am not hat home i cant make HA do that if it is on the LAN

fringe moon
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Any laptop or minicomputer from the last decade that doesn't run a soc or atom will be great

civic kraken
#

I'm sure there's a way to automate around that issue. Put the router on a smart switch and then use something like ping to ensure you're online -> restart if not

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If it doesn't work even locally, then hardwire a some switch to the system running HA

finite grail
#

@civic krakenbut if you get no ping, the HA is on the LAN, how can it send a command to restat the smart switch, (which is Wifi)

civic kraken
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If you lose all wifi then you'd probably need to DIY some solution that is directly wired

finite grail
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ONT - to M5 Wifi Mesh (Router) - to 24 port Switch... Thunder clap and the Switch bombs out, Wifi and ONT still working

civic kraken
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Hmm, do you have any zigbee devices? If the Zigbee stick is connected to your HA system, then you can just get a zigbee switch that reboots the switch

finite grail
# civic kraken Hmm, do you have any zigbee devices? If the Zigbee stick is connected to your HA...

No zigbee, but i have a Sonoff Bridge that is Wifi and i have just got a Sonoff SV that is Wifi, so i can still reboot the 24 Port over Internet to Wifi, but i wont have anything to tell me that the LAN is scrambled because i was going to use HA, but if has no Ping, then it has no LAN, and thus it has no internet. and the only way I would know that is if i tried to Log into HA on the App, but there would be no push Notification, Also right now HA is in VM on my Media PC that reboots every morning 3 am, so i dont feel like a notification every morning to say HA has gone off line while it is in VM, so i was looking for another bit of hardware t6o keep HA separate to its own device

civic kraken
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I would assume you can ping something like 8.8.8.8 to know if you have Internet or not

#

or maybe I'm not following what your issue is

finite grail
civic kraken
#

For hardware atx gave good advice already. But VM should be fine too if you have it running all the time anyway

finite grail
#

Well the Media PC reboots every day at 3am

finite grail
civic kraken
#

Whichever works for you I suppose

#

It's overkill for HA for sure

finite grail
fringe moon
#

Thunderstorms affecting switch sounds like grounding issues, what switch is it?

finite grail
#

Just a D-Link 24 Port Desktop Gigabit switch

fringe moon
#

Oh dlink DogeWink

finite grail
#

Slim pickings in South Africa unless you have LOADS of money to import

fringe moon
#

No used market for old stuff?

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Cisco from the last two decades are still great for most uses

finite grail
#

Thats why i can get the Dell, but it is still darm expensive by salary standards, but cheaper than a laptop

civic kraken
#

Could always go with a laptop with a broken screen or something like that? Pretty much anything x86 used is a great option to run HA

finite grail
#

Lets put it this way a Pi 4 will cost R1100 (70USD), yet i can get the dell for R950 (60USD), I know that isnt alot for USA or UK people, but here in South Africa, that is half a months Groceries

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So I was looking for Hardware advice to get the HA separate, It was awesome when it was on my Pi 3b+, but i couldnt work out why it kept freezing so i moved it to VM, I would love to got back to the Pi, but to many issuse after the 2021.10 update

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Anyones thoughts on the Synology DS220j, could i put HA on that as a docker?

glossy prism
#

Not as a docker, but maybe as a container

winged knoll
#

Docker on Synology can be a shit show, better to have one that can run VMs

finite grail
#

Although that is considerable more exspensive, it would be on 24 hours, and it doubles up as a NAS obviously

finite grail
finite grail
glossy prism
#

I'm being pedantic. Docker is software that runs containers, not dockers

smoky bay
#

Hello.
I received a HA Blue yesterday, and went ahead to boot it.
No life sign at all, except pwr LED blinking. through some youtube videos it seems the power LED is supposed to be constant? i wonder whether or not the blue is broken, basically..

finite grail
#

Can i run two HA on the same network?

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One on a pi with Wifi and one an A VM with LAN

glossy prism
#

Sure, but what's the objective?

finite grail
#

The LAN can run all the things, the Pi could use the WIFI to make something work resetting a switch when the LAN is off

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ONT - to M5 Wifi Mesh (Router) - to 24 port Switch... Thunder clap and the Switch bombs out, Wifi and ONT still working, so if i Had HA on the Wifi Pi, i could reboot the LAN switch and then the VM HA would be accessible again

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Also, if the Wifi HA couldn't ping the VM HA, it could reboot the LAN automatically to get the LAN working again

glossy prism
#

How often does this happen? Does the switch not turn back on after a power outage?

finite grail
#

It is not a power outage, we have massive thunderstorms here just about every night in Summer (this time of the year in South Africa), so if i am not at home i cant reset the router after a massive thunder clap

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I dont lose internet, or my wifi, i just lose my 24 port LAN switch, it is still powered, just the ports dont send or receive, it then needs a power cycle to get it running again

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I so wish i had a whiteboard to draw this out, because even as i write this up i think, "am i making scene here?"

fringe moon
#

I would rather fix the issue than try to work around it, and that appears to be a pure hardware problem with your switch

finite grail
# fringe moon I would rather fix the issue than try to work around it, and that appears to be ...

Agreed, but just dont have the money to get a Uinifi Switch and a mounting rack and and and... and i would LOVE to be able to do all that and have an 8bay nas for backups, and stream from the rack instead of a PC with windows on it, and have HA on it own little machine, but South Africa man, these things dont happen unless you will the Lotto, and even then finding them local is like Unicorns in the sands.

finite grail
glossy prism
#

If the instances are on separate machines, they'd already have different IP addresses

shell coral
# fringe moon Don't

Reasons why those are not good choices?
I am already running a VM with i3 1st gen processor, lesser drive storage (10Gb) & lesser ram (2gb) than the 3 yr old phone with good cpu specs, with 40+gb free storge & 2.5+gb (out of 4) ram

shell coral
winged knoll
#

There's forum threads and a post history that explains it, but the short version is that mobile phones aren't designed to be servers

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It'd be like taking a kids toy car and slapping a towbar on it to tow a caravan.

finite grail
#

Can anyone shed light on whats happening in the LOG files, i see lots of Errors and Traceback writing

fringe moon
#

Which logs?

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I can't see any

finite grail
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Sorry i dont want to post them here incase it was the wrong channel, If you dont mind me doing a copy and paste i will gladly share them

bright jacinthBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

Command '.share' was invoked by: atxbyea
finite grail
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I undestand the Custom intergations, but the errors onse and the traceback i dont know what they are or how to fix them

fringe moon
#

That like like a lot of network connectivity issues for one

finite grail
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@fringe moon is there somewhere i can try find out why they are failing?

fringe moon
#

Ha can't reach stuff online

#

Is ha wired or

finite grail
#

Wired

fringe moon
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Run a ping continuously from ha to the API that is failing

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Also 404 to ha updates are strange, but I don't touch haos with a five foot pole, no idea if that happens often

finite grail
#

I will try muddle through it

placid bronze
#

Hi! Could you guys recommend me some cheap (< $15-20) motion sensors? I already have some Hue ones that are great, but I'm looking for some cheap ones to fill in the gaps or for minor specific tasks.

civic kraken
#

Xiaomi ones have been pretty solid for the price if you've got zigbee

fringe moon
#

Xiaomi 4 lyfe

placid bronze
#

I do have zigbee 🙂 Thanks!

fast harness
#

Feedback, Yes it worked very well ( Used Tuya ). First dimmer integrated and works perfectly. Thank you again.

abstract bison
#

can anyone recommend a zigbee power monitor socket (UK)

zealous dune
#

otherwise its slim pickings for uk type plugs

abstract bison
#

ah, that just looked like a rebrand of the one that i linked

twilit relic
#

i'm looking for a device that can connect to my home wifi, and is powered up by USB. NOT for PC. For a standard USB charging port in my car (5V 1A)

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i have a car starter hooked up to a servo, but there is no good way to KNOW if the car is on

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so i thought if there was a device that powered up with the car and connected to my wifi, it would act as status ON

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any ideas?

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i thought about a wifi speaker, but those are too pricey

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a zigbee device would also work

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maybe a little repeater stick?

bright jacinthBOT
royal cobalt
#

mmmh okay @bright jacinth but you also moved my message >.<

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~~Hi, i'm trying to configure a Conbee II with ZHA, but i get an error (see above message from Hassbot).

I am running HA on a Ubuntu NUC via Docker, with the root account.
I have configured the mount of the device in my docker-compose, and HA automatically discovers the new device and offers to configure the integration.

I already disabled modemmanager by following https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#zha-start-up-issue-with-home-assistant-or-home-assistant-container

I don't know what i can do more, any help would be appreciated ! 🙏~~

winged knoll
left pine
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hey everybody,
does someone have a recommendation for Smartplugs with Zigbee that can be used for a washing machine / dryer (16A/4000W) that have sensors for Watt, kWh etc.
Thanks!

proven girder
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A very important part for plugs lul

left pine
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ah sorry @proven girder Germany

abstract bison
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I've been trying to find the same (UK), but that listing has got same device for different countries

ebon holly
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Hello all, looking for a way to control my fire place in Home Assistant. Using my ST Hub as my Z/Zig hub and integrated with Home Assistant. (I know, I should move to a stick on the Pi).

Looks like a simple bridge that connects when the toggle switch is on and is disconnected when off (typical single gang flip toggle). I don't believe it'll be 120 though for a normal switch by the look of the wiring inside.

agile raptor
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hi

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can some one help me?

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i connected zigbee smoke detectors

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I made nodeRed automations to alert me when triggered

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i only want to trigger the other smoke detectors

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i have an entitie thats called "tamper"

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so basicly i want all the other smoke detectors alarm as well when one goes off

glossy prism
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What smoke alarms are these? I doubt you can trigger the others

winged knoll
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And how are they integrated in HA?

glossy prism
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The tamper entity is for if the cover or something is removed from the device (it's supposed to indicate if someone is, well, tampering with the device)

agile raptor
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ah oke

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thanks

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that one did really not make sence

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but now it does

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@winged knoll with zigbee

winged knoll
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And...how?

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There's at least three Zigbee integrations

agile raptor
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oh sorry zigbee2mqtt

glossy prism
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Again, what smoke alarms are these?

agile raptor
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heiman

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i will post a link

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just a sec

agile raptor
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i dont see any entities that looks like I can trigger it manually

glossy prism
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Based on the z2m page for that device, there won't be (nor would I expect to be able to trigger the alarm on them tbh)

agile raptor
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ah thats to bad

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if the product creator did not add this option in the firmware, others can make it so?

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without flashing the new firmware?

glossy prism
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Nope

agile raptor
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i figured

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thanks for the info

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need to think of an other way to trigger this then

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i can make the lights blink or something

glossy prism
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You might be better off with wireless interconnected smoke alarms and a zigbee smoke alarm listener

agile raptor
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yeah I guess you are right

glossy prism
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That way one alarm will trigger the others and you can use the listener as the smart bit

agile raptor
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would be nice though to trigger the alarm manually

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for training perpose and also the feature I want

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yep

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i am going to look into that

buoyant pagoda
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Hi all, first time here, not sure I get discord, so let me know if I'm doing this wrong!

I'm trying to attach a UPS directly (USB cable) to a PC running HAOS. I've been reading on "The Network UPS Tools (NUT)" but that seems to need a server.

Then I managed to install through the terminal, apcupsd "apk add apcupds" then start it and check it's running with apcaccess. But this thing seems to stop automatically, so integrating this in HAOS must follow some rules?

I must be missing some little things! Any pointers will be appreciated.

fringe moon
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For HAOS i don't know the options, it would have to be solved via an #add-ons-archived

gloomy spoke
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Yes, there’s a NUT addon

fervent moss
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Hej, do you have any good ideas for sensors/zigbee? I want to know (motion sensor?!) who's entering an street, and here eG. if the postalservice was there ... I got some Trust device ZPIR8000, that somehow detects 1/min, for battery saving reasons? What are good sensors for the "detect cars, humans" task? Takk

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I have also a question with range of zigbee. Are there repeaters, or eG. howto get more range in general?

winged knoll
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Detecting humans vs cars is more of a camera and object detection thing

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For Zigbee, see the pinned messages in the #zigbee-archived channel for both lists of known working hardware, plus how Zigbee works

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I don't see any PIR type sensor working for your use case

gloomy spoke
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Take that, object detection

fervent moss
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I have to testbench that with more objects! Right now, that's alright for very few objects passing and about 'notifications'! What about the range?

bold flax
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Rewired a 3 way switch that's been wrong since 1993 today.

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I wanted to get that working before making it smart.

smoky bay
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Hello.
I received a HA Blue yesterday, and went ahead to boot it.
No life sign at all, except pwr LED blinking red. through some youtube videos it seems the power LED is supposed to be constant? i wonder whether or not the blue is broken, basically..
no life signs through ethernet, HDMI or USB.

fringe moon
smoky bay
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ty for clarifying that for me, bit unsure

native moat
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So this MIGHT not be the right place for the question, but what's the difference between the HA Blue & HA Yellow? I see the hardware differences on the site, but is Yellow the way to go? Or am I better off repurposing old hardware in general?

winged knoll
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The Yellow is a Pi4 plus expansion
The Blue is an ODroid N2+ (so, more capable)

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Your old hardware is probably more capable than either of those

eager valley
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Anyone have any experience with NSPanel with Tasmota

native moat
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Thanks @winged knoll

drifting grove
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Sorry, I am all new to this. I installed Home Assistant tonight.
I just managed to have VirtualBox 'give' my bluetooth adapter (https://www.tp-link.com/uk/home-networking/adapter/ub400/) to Home Assistant. But what do I do from there? I would like to be able to use thermometers etc. For now all I have is the Xiaomi Mi temperature and humidity sensor (the cheap square version with the smilie-thing).

bright jacinthBOT
drifting grove
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I have installed the file editor
I have edited config.yaml so that it now looks like this:

Se above - except I tried to make it italic by using underscore. So ignore those. 🙂

And the mac of the device. Which is of course made-up.
I have two devices. I have written the MAC of one of them. I was hoping the other one would be discovered. But actually none of them works. ??

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Oh and of course I did go to Configuration / Settings / Restart

worldly vapor
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Can wyze cam v3 do continuous video stream through rtsp? I notice on mine that on the dashboard it updates every 5-10 seconds only.

pliant gust
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on this note, i just found the product currently advertised as a wyze cam pan is actually a wyze cam pan v2, the v2 not supporting rtsp.

any recommendation for cameras that integrate well with home assistant?

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id prefer locally hosted solutions over cloud dependant ones, i dont mind cloud functionality, but i need the ability to save locally to a NVR or nas

pallid lotus
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Hi all. Anybody running Sengled bulbs by chance? I've got HA running with a Nortek zigbee USB dongle but nothing I'm doing (as far as 5 on/off cycles, 10 on/off cycles, etc) is allowing HA to discover them. Questioning if these bulbs will even work in this setup?

gray ravine
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new cm4 has bluetooth, any secret to working with it in HA?

winged knoll
reef osprey
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hi, does someone know how can I factory reset the HA blue?

winged knoll
reef osprey
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thanks, I'm trying this channel as well

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it's just that I only started working with the blue and already getting a message saying the supervisor is not supprted

bright jacinthBOT
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@reef osprey Please DO NOT cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

Command '~crosspost' was invoked by: Tinkerer
winged knoll
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Crossposting wastes people's time as multiple people try to help you, unaware of the other help you're getting

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#330990055533576204 is the channel that can help you, not this one, not any other one either 😉

reef osprey
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sorry, I'm not new to HA but really new to this discord server

winged knoll
blazing vector
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anyone have suggestions for wallet mount panels/tablets?

slender silo
runic lark
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Hi there! I'm having an issue with an ESP integration it used to work

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it's weird because the node is shown on the ESP panel, logs look ok

winged knoll
runic lark
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oh, sorry !

winged knoll
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Do say which integration though

placid bronze
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Hello 🙂 Does anyone have any recommendations for contact (door/window) sensors?

hollow lance
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Aqara

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Not Sonoff unless you like 1-2 second delays and replacing batteries

serene plank
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Sonoff SV

tepid heart
placid bronze
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I ended up going with the Aqara ones so I guess I'll see how they work. Did you end up getting the Linkind ones?

tepid heart
placid bronze
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I also got the Aqara vibration sensor

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But there didn't seem to be much choice there

placid bronze
tepid heart
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Yep.

oak thicket
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can anyone recommend a good temperature / humidity sensor with display ?

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I am from germany, protocol kinda w/e guess wifi/zigbee > zwave and no cloudservice should be required

fringe moon
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The Xiaomi one with aqi is good imo

oak thicket
fringe moon
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Nope, let me find it

oak thicket
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ty

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alot of people say it drops alot when using zigbee2mqtt

fringe moon
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No issues here

oak thicket
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only works good with the aquara hub

fringe moon
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These people might have a poor mesh DogeWink

oak thicket
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true ;)

fringe moon
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Let me see the last 24h stata

oak thicket
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how is the tvoc data ? some say it only updates when pressing the button on the device

fringe moon
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It updates often, let me check out

oak thicket
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sweet

fringe moon
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Guessing i brushed against it

oak thicket
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^^

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now i just have to check the datasheet for accuracy for temp and humidity

fringe moon
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It can be adjusted

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The accuracy that is

oak thicket
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i mean from the sensors themself

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temp should be +/- 0.5 C but didnt find humidity yet

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some have a huge error