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ember shell
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I remember back when I had ADSL2+ and was getting 4.5 down, 0.5 up (2018). Managed to download an entire terabyte in one month with basically non-stop downloading. Good times.

fringe moon
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In 2018?

ember shell
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Welcome to Australia πŸ™‚

fringe moon
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Oh boy, I haven't seen adsl2+ since 2006

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And copper is dead

ember shell
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I hadn't seen 10M until 3 years ago

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Oh nah Australia loves copper. Half of our current fibre network is spread across now-defunct copper lines that government bought back from the ISPs when they got rid of them.

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Don't question the logic, I'm sure it will come eventually.

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We just have to wait a bit longer.

fringe moon
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Isps don't even fix existing copper lines anymore, tell you to order fiber

ember shell
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Correct, so the government figured they'll get em cheap and build half the fibre backbone on them.

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Don't think too hard, this is why we have a government.

winged knoll
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DSL is still pretty common across large parts of the UK

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Hell, some places you don't even get that

ember shell
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A lot of Aus is now being switched to 5G or satellite as they finally cut all the DSL lines.

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I'd hate having satellite.

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5G aint so bad but I'd die on satellite internet.

fringe moon
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We had a lot of radio broadband in the late 90s, that died quickly

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Sattelite broadband we have never had

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But since fiber rolled out in 2004....

ember shell
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I gotta say though, out of every type of internet, Starlink can go F itself the most.

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Just because of the impact to space

fringe moon
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Finally America will have broadband you mean @ember shell

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🀣

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@slim lagoon

ember shell
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They won't have to look for a McDonalds hotspot everywhere they go

fringe moon
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That was very handy in New York

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Connected to one Starbucks and one McDonald

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Wifi throughout the city

ember shell
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Hope you wore a condom

fringe moon
gloomy oak
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Is this the channel where I can ask about D1 Minis and ESPHome or is that more integrations/add-ons? I have a few issues I haven't been able to resolve and I'm not sure if they're hardware or software related.

fringe moon
gloomy oak
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Thanks

clever mango
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anybody have Feit motion sensors integrated?

winged knoll
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Yeah, folks were asking about those the other day, a search should find details - likely in the #zigbee-archived channel

clever mango
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says "Wifi" on the package

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so, figured they were wifi

winged knoll
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Ooooh, not sure about those

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I know they do Zigbee ones, which is what folks were asking about

clever mango
winged knoll
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Oh well, good luck ablobjoy

clever mango
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Costco's got a 3-pack for $40

fringe moon
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I can't get over the name

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Feit = morbidly obese in norwegian

half cosmos
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Anyone know of a semi-cheap speaker that works with home assistant? I am just wanting one for my bedroom that works with my HA.

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I was thinking of the sonos one from Ikea but I feel like that may be a bit overkill for a small bedroom lol

fringe moon
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It is loud

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I use it in my office

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I keep the volume below 10%

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But it can be adjusted easily

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And sound is good, but no mic

winged knoll
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Look at the symfonisk range from Ikea, cheaper than Sonos and sounds just as good

dense wyvern
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I’m interested in trying out Esphome more. I’ve heard of people having 10-20+ in their homes but wondering, how do you power them all and not end up with ever plug in the house being used?

civic kraken
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You do run out. You can get extension cables with usb ports though which can be real nice

frank swallow
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Hi all – I have a Sonoff T1 UK Touch 3-Gang Switch that I want to use ONLY for its touch buttons/controls, not its actual relays. I successfully connected it with Home Assistant, created a flow in Node RED –it works great! Is it possible to deactivate the actual relay on the switch with a custom template yet keep the buttons working? Thanks!

zealous dune
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does it have Tasmota on it?

frank swallow
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Yes, it's all done

zealous dune
frank swallow
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can i change its properties through SwitchMode, without actually turning the relays on and off?

frank swallow
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I used SetOption114 1 but it seems that the Sonoff switch continues to operate as before. No new MQTT messages were sent other than those related to Power On/Off.

mellow grail
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Wich raspberrypi's are supported?

winged knoll
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Pi3 and better

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It's possible to run it on Pi2/One/Zero, but it's not supported, and you'd be daft to do so

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Last time somebody tried a zero I think the initial install and startup took over 24 hours...

gray charm
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I can't imagine it on anything less than a 3

winged knoll
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To be fair, not a Pi is a better choice than any Pi

gray charm
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I have mine in a VM on my ESXi server, which is a Dell r610 with dual E5645 Xeons, and the performance is just comfortable.

winged knoll
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I'm on an old i5 laptop, and it performs just fine there πŸ˜„

gray charm
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I would imagine it would be fairly slow on any Pi

winged knoll
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It's not terrible on a Pi3 TBH - it's mostly things that do I/O that are laggy

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I was never CPU or RAM limited when I ran there

gentle fossil
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took 2,5 hours for the landing page, haos on pi1 which is 50mhz less than zero i believe

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actually 300mhz less than the zero πŸ˜…

winged knoll
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That's better than I expected

summer idol
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Hello

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Does anyone have recommendations for UPS? I am using an Intel NUC as hardware to run my gateways. Thank you in advance πŸ™‚

gray charm
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I tend to pick up used APC units and replace the batteries with ones from Batteries & Bulbs. Seems to be cheap and effective, but YMMV.

fringe moon
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My cyberpower have been solid

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And were insanely cheap

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And with Norwegian five year warranty if I have any issue within those years I'll get it replaced

summer idol
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Can you provide link?

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I need to order something today or tomorrow. Any chance you're also running a NUC?

fringe moon
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I run multiple rack servers and switches on one

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And a raspberry pi and a switch on the other

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A 2200va and a 1400va respectively

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$140 and $70 respectively

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From a Norwegian vendor, so probably no use for you with links

gray charm
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I also run CyberPower UPSes in my server racks, but they're way overkill for a NUC

gray charm
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hmmm. so I ordered a Sonoff zigbee hub. now I'm wondering if that was a mistake.

fringe moon
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Yes

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Yes it was

winged knoll
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Zigbee + WiFi == shockscream

gray charm
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do the Zigbee USB dongles have decent range? my servers are in a shed at the back of the property

gentle fossil
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welcome to the *2mqtt world and sbc computers

winged knoll
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Point to point range for Zigbee (and Z-Wave) tends to be in the 8 to 10 meter range - depending on what's in the way

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The key there is point to point since both are mesh networks

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Of course, putting your coordinators outside the house would be ... not a good choice

fringe moon
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Just place more routers

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Problem solved

winged knoll
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Eh, at the cost of bottlenecking things...

fringe moon
twin plume
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Does anyone know if jasco in wall switches can be wired with neutral only, or no load? I have an empty slot in a gang box and want to use the in wall switch to control other smart lamps

rich rapids
rich rapids
primal wren
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I have an outlet outside, underneath a porch...

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Would a regular Smart Plug work? Or do I need an outdoor one?

fringe moon
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Depends, do you like to live dangerously?

long charm
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Nest giving me an E195 error. No power to R. (There is. There's also a common wire). Thinking of swapping, what is a good alternative?

long charm
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Is the ecobee integration with home assistant good?

lunar delta
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anyone running Insteon gear with HA?

gloomy spoke
long charm
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I wish it wasn't black. Gonna stick out on our light colored wall

primal wren
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atxbyea... what kind of issues can you face if the outlet is under a porch?

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I mean, if it is extremely unlikely to get wet... what other reason is there to go specifically with an outdoor plug?

austere flare
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hi, just ordered a zwave USB dongle. will I be able to link my zwave switches to HA and also keep my smartthings linked to the same switches?

gloomy spoke
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You may be able to as a secondary controller, but it’s not advisable. Better to move the devices over

austere flare
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are the Wifi RGB led strips work with HA.. anyone recommend a model that works?

primal wren
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You can buy any strips you want

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and then buy a LED Strip controller that works with HA

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as long as the prongs are compatible

austere flare
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I see Govee has support

primal wren
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ine moment

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one *

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I bought that, and it worked

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Works with HA without issue really

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I wish I had gone the zigbee route though, since I'm purchasing everything Zigbee from here on out

austere flare
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which usb dongle are you using, i just purchased a zwave only usb device

primal wren
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but i dont recommend it

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I'd ask around for other recommendations....

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the ConBee II is VERY sensitive to interference and requires the use of USB Extension cable, and careful placement,

austere flare
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so Govee lists specific model that works, but amazon doesn't list the model number. Guess I'll just try anything that says wifi/alexa

slim lagoon
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If you’re in the US, Philips Wiz is supported through a custom integration and they work well (I have over 60 Wiz lights, with a couple being strips).

primal wren
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Yeah

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but they run off of Wifi,

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if im not mistaken

slim lagoon
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Yup.

primal wren
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putting too much stuff on WIFI, will diminish the bandwidth for other devices

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regardless of how little those other devices are actually using

austere flare
slim lagoon
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Depends on what kind of equipment you have.

austere flare
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the interface looks nice

primal wren
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by equipment

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do you mean router? Or the IoT devices?

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both?

slim lagoon
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Router and APs. Consumer equipment will choke. However, prosumer and enterprise equipment can handle hundreds of devices easily.

primal wren
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I have an EA8500

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but it is flashed to DD-WRT

slim lagoon
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I have both unifi and tp-link Omada. I have ~140 devices on my network right now.

primal wren
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I've been wanting to upgrade to a Tri-band router,...

Because I want the 2nd 5ghz band, so that I can use that band exclusively for PCVR Streaming to Oculus Quest

slim lagoon
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Yeah, you can probably handle around 50-60 devices with dd-wrt.

slim lagoon
primal wren
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6 Lightbulbs, 1 Desktop PC, 2 Rasberry Pis (1 acting as a NAS, the other HA), 1 Android Box acting as a DVR running TinyCam Pro, 2 FireSticks, 1 Amazon Ring, 1 LED wifi Light strip, 2 smart phones, 1 tablet, 2 laptops, Thermostat, 4 Wyzecams,

austere flare
unique goblet
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Hello, I want to install HA on a motorhome, I want the supervised installation, and also to be able to access the device with teamviewer for maintenance. What is the best device/installation for this use?

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I have a android TVBox with termux, but I cannot install supervised there...

fringe moon
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teamviewer for maintenance ? that sounds horrible

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just use ssh, it is a linux based system

unique goblet
fringe moon
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dynamic dns

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we have used this for over 20 years

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πŸ˜„

unique goblet
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yep, but I do not want to use that for this use right now πŸ™‚

fringe moon
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but that is a you problem

unique goblet
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πŸ™‚

fringe moon
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Well

  1. HAOS won't be supported on termux
  2. Supervised might work, but is a horrible choice for ANYONE
  3. Managing a web based application and textfiles over teamviewer is horrible
  4. Use SSH tunnels if you need to reach the remote webui
  5. Use SSH key authentication
  6. Use Dynamic DNS
  7. Use #449717345808547842
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this is the only sensible advice I can give

unique goblet
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I appreciate

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I'm thinking of a NUC with Debian... as alternative

fringe moon
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That will work

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modern nucs can even use less power than a raspberry pi

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and still have overhead

unique goblet
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it's a lot more expensive that I was expecting...

fringe moon
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buy used

unique goblet
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any suggestion for NUC?

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I dnt need much power/processing

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wont run many automations

fringe moon
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Anything with an i3 or i5

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can even be noname (not nuc)

unique goblet
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power consumption is critical on this situation

fringe moon
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a pi will work

unique goblet
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I don't like the use of SD's for that...

fringe moon
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although buy atleast a 3b+

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then use an SSD

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with USB adapter

unique goblet
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is the SSD version working now?

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is it stable?

fringe moon
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it has worked for years

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on the 4 it has been for months

unique goblet
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I have a RPI4 on desk...

unique goblet
winged knoll
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That's down to your skills, and how much you want it to integrate with the car/van/whatever

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HAOS on a VM is always an option, but if you want something that can react to dropping power levels then maybe Debian+Container is a better choice

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There should be a stack of forums (and likely a few Discords) that specialise in automotive PC use

unique goblet
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πŸ‘

winged knoll
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I've certainly seen, in the past, builds that closely monitor the health of the battery and will auto-shutdown to avoid draining it beyond a certain level

broken mist
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Hello folks. Hopefully someone will find a few mins to help me out. I'm in the process of buying a flat that is currently being built where the walls are still "open" and it is possible to adjust the cables & stuff. I'm a software developer and thought I'd give some of the new, cool, smart bulbs & stuff a go, however, I'm super conscious about my privacy (go figure, being a SE...) and so stumbled upon ZigBee and Home Assistant, where this is taken seriously. Anyway, TLDR of what I want to confirm right now as it's a pressing matter IRL.

Please confirm/correct my statements below, to make sure I understand how things work, hardware (electricity, cables) wise at this moment:

(1) I want switches that will be possible to be controlled locally, ie. rotating the hardware switch, and remotely, ie. through code (app, homeassistant on pi, w/e you call it, code in essence). With this I want to control the ON/OFF state and the dimness (in case of ON state, obviously) of a given circuit. That is, if I want to have 5 ceiling lights in a room and I press the harder switch, the (local) relay will be connected and the lights will turn on/off. This circuit has the same cable setup as a regular circuit with no smart switch, except the smart switch is connected a bit differently. Is this correct?

(2) Assuming the server goes down, that acts as the intermediary between the smart device(s) and the input signals (timed, remotely through app, whatever) - the hardware switches (ie. literally the button on the wall) will still turn on/off/dim the circuit. That is, if the server goes down - can I still turn on the lights by pressing the switch?

(3) Lastly I want to have a few smart bulbs, which will be in the central lamps, as well as some smart LED strips. These devices need continuous electricity and so they will not be connected to any switch-circuit, but rather have their own circuit that provides electricity 24/7. Is this correct?

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The reason why I do not want to go fully "smart" is because of (2) where - in case something goes wrong with the server; I want to be able to function till it gets fixed - not revert to lightning up cables till I fix things πŸ˜‚

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Also please bear with me - my understanding of electricity is very basic, I'm not a hardware guy, but I understand the basic principle that you need a closed circuit in order for the electricity to flow and for things to function πŸ˜‚

zealous dune
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  1. switches only power on/off, dimmers can dim. wiring is identical to a classic switch but 3 way switching is more complicated with smart switches
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  1. yes and no πŸ˜„
broken mist
zealous dune
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  1. they need power to be smart but it doesn have to be switchless, having no switch reduces chances of powering them off but might not be up to code
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well that's a dimmer not a switch

broken mist
zealous dune
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its like a computer

broken mist
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right, sure, but from my understanding the dimmer can control "itself" (it's local circuit) without external software. Taht is, if you plug that into the wall and turn the knob, it will dim the lights without anything external, right?

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but then you can give it an input externally to dim too

zealous dune
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dimmer does the dimming, the smarts is there only to report and receive commands

broken mist
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ye, exactly

zealous dune
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its two separate modules inside that device

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the zigbee part reads the state and sends commands to the IC

broken mist
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basically if the server dies at 4am and I wake up to go to the bathroom, I can click the dimmer, it will turn on the lights, go back to sleep, and see something is wrong with the server when I wake up and get to fix it

zealous dune
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if you use the rotary button you control the IC

broken mist
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not wake up, click the switch, lights don't go up, and nothing works...

zealous dune
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correct in majority of cases

broken mist
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(ie. I will see something is wrong when my smart lights don't turn on)

zealous dune
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but if you use smart bulbs and smart switches together you're mostly depending on the smarts part

broken mist
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now, (4) - the dimmer, or in essence any hardware sensor/input device, is sending signals through zigbee protocol and this signal can be intercepted and acted upon by the server (eg rasberry pi) - so that I can program "when I turn on switch 10, turn on 3 smart bulbs at the same time" - where switch 10 is the dimmer for a specific circuit. So basically I click the switch on the dimmer, it will turn on its own circuit with the relay, and send signal to the rasberry which in turn will turn on the other 3 (smart) bulbs in the room, correct?

zealous dune
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not server, coordinator. basically yes

broken mist
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semantics, sorry - yes of course, the software running on the server will listen to the signals and act upon it

winged knoll
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If you make the wall switches/dimmers smart, then they will always work as expected and you can automate things

broken mist
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but again, just to reiterate and confirm (sorry), in case the server is down, the local circuit will still turn on (eg the 5 ceiling lights), but simply the 3 smart bulbs will not, right?

zealous dune
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with zigbee you can bind smart bulbs with smart dimmers and not need the server part

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its a tiny bit of redundancy

broken mist
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that's interesting - so the "I just turned on" signal/event will be broadcasted through the network, and the devices (light bulbs) are re-programmed to listen to it and turn themselves on even if the server died?

zealous dune
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i've mostly moved to smart bulbs because i luv CCT and adaptive lighting

broken mist
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now that's cool πŸ˜„

winged knoll
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There's also modules that sit between a dumb switch and your lights so that you can more easily handle multi-way switches

broken mist
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can you give an example? not sure I understand

winged knoll
zealous dune
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but you also have the remote wall switches for "multiwaying"

winged knoll
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There's a range of Zigbee, Z-Wave, and WiFi options

broken mist
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well, I'm in the state of walls being opened and I can do w/e I want, but I ahve to decide quickly

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I'm a bit paranoid so I don't want to go "full smart" where everything is powered 24/7, probably

zealous dune
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oh just run cat5 everywhere for future use πŸ˜„

broken mist
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and what I wrote in the points above, 1-4, is what makes the most sense to me

zealous dune
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if i was redoing everything i'd run 12v lighting everywhere to reduce energy waste on converting everywhere from 220 to 12

broken mist
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so you mean to run POE everywhere? πŸ˜„

zealous dune
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pretty much

broken mist
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again, I'm not very hardware friendly, I just know the basics I have to know

zealous dune
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most modern lighting works on 5-24V anyway

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and every smart switch has internal PSU to convert AC to DC

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everything is still in retrofit stage so the smart switches and smart lights are designed to work on AC and convert to DC

broken mist
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right, I get the idea, but I'm pretty sure no one (wiring/electricity wise) local has any idea what the hell I'm asking them to do πŸ˜‚

zealous dune
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oh yeah they don't

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even a smart switch will twist their brains

broken mist
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I had to spend about 1h yesterday going over things with an electrician in his 40s to get him understand that, yes, I want 24/7 electricity going into certain lights...

zealous dune
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when i told my electrician i only want one switch for my hall light and that i will handle the multiway differently he just could not comprehend

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oh, don't forget to run neutrals everywhere

subtle burrow
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I want to start my HA adventure. Ive mainly got lights, switches, motion sensor and heating smart product. But im looking at security measures and cameras. I need to choose a system to run HA on, should i get a pi4 and can that handle 3 camera streams(idk if over wifi or other yet)?

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Nucs and the blue are hard to get

zealous dune
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don't do wifi cameras

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you'll regret it

subtle burrow
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I found a guy that sell a pi4 8gb with 120 gb ssd and housing all connected and ha instaled for 175 euro. how does that hold up?

subtle burrow
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We would probably look at a security company we know to install those anyway

zealous dune
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because wifi sucks

broken mist
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and take only what the device needs

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ie. neutral will be eveywhere

subtle burrow
zealous dune
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just double check with the electrician πŸ˜„ mine ran the 3 wires but did not connect the neutral

zealous dune
broken mist
subtle burrow
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hardwired to a local storage base?

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is that easy to connect to HA then?

zealous dune
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you camera usuall needs to support rtsp to be in HA, there are ofcourse other way depending on the hardware

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hardwired means having ethernet connection, they would still be IP camera's not your classic security camera

subtle burrow
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ah yea fair

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i just fixed my network issues so all wired and wireless are on the same network now

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so its time to build ha

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but mainly need hardware to put ha on

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and needs to be stable enough for cameras views

zealous dune
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then get a real computer

subtle burrow
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just run ha from a nuc?

fringe moon
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Or a real computer

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πŸ˜„

zealous dune
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nuc, older laptop, server hardware... name it what you want but make sure there's processing power and memory to handle your needs

subtle burrow
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yea thats my main concers

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cause like what can a pi handle and stuff

zealous dune
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people think it can handle a lot then you realise its IO is not good enough

fringe moon
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suprisingly much, but when you hit the ceiling it becomes a paper weight

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no scalability

subtle burrow
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id just like to future proof

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but sadly budget is also a thing

broken mist
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Let's kubernetes the F out of rasberries. An art display of rasberries mounted to the wall? πŸ‘€

zealous dune
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you need to adjust your needs then

subtle burrow
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yea i know

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its a low struggle

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either spend a lot to future proof

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or just buy a 170 euro pi setup and try ha atleast xD

zealous dune
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170 € !?!?

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dahell is in that pi

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that's enough money to buy used server hardware

slim lagoon
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170 euros for a rPi is insane.

zealous dune
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is it gold plated?

slim lagoon
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Ha! That was going to be my question.

subtle burrow
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its this xd

zealous dune
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ah "No hassle"... that does cost a lot

slim lagoon
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Just no. Get a used laptop or something for the same price with the added benefit of having a battery backup built into it.

broken mist
zealous dune
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"no hassle" is expensive man

broken mist
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definitely

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anyway, so, hardware wise, other than the "smart stuff", what do I actaully need other than the rasberry that's sitting in my drawer - I assume there is some sort of hardware module that acts as a ZigBee antena and can communicate with the smart devices?

subtle burrow
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yea i know its more on t he expensive side

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thats why im struggling to choose hardware

slim lagoon
# subtle burrow thats why im struggling to choose hardware

Seriously... go to any computer shop (online or brick and mortar) and get yourself a used laptop or desktop built in the last 10 years. Laptops are better only because you don't need to have a UPS externally. But any hardware made in the past 10 years should run HA easily with room for growth.

subtle burrow
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i tried running it on a windows vm on old pc but that failed, imma try it on the same machine with linux aswell

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but that just makes a lot of noise and uses space

slim lagoon
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Hence why I suggested getting a laptop. Low power usage and quiet. Plus, you can install linux on pretty much anything.

fringe moon
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You can get a used 2U server for $100 these days

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πŸ˜„

subtle burrow
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i found a guy selling a nuc with an older intel chip

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but he told me it wouldnt hold up with a camera view

fringe moon
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unless it was atom based, it will show camera streams fine

subtle burrow
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idk just feels weird using laptop for that in my head, but being a beginner that is

slim lagoon
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Yup. I've had a laptop running in my local setup for over 3 years now. 24x7. Granted, I did upgrade it's internals (ram, ssd, etc).

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And I have it sitting on a cooling pad.

winged knoll
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I'm running HA, Zigbee2MQTT, MotionEye, Doods, and more, on a couple of laptops that are just propped on their sides

subtle burrow
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mhm fair, sadly laptops aint cheap around here

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even used ones

slim lagoon
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On their sides?! lmao

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Where is "here"?

subtle burrow
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guess better for air flow

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Netherlands

winged knoll
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Well, they don't need to be flat, so having them upright improves the airflow

slim lagoon
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Ahhh, ok. That's why I have the cooling pad.

winged knoll
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The only concession I've made is that they're basically in a V between two cabinets, with the intake and exhaust lined up to avoid feedback

slim lagoon
winged knoll
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Mine is an 8 or so years old i5, it has capacity to spare

subtle burrow
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isnt most stuff broken

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what are minimum specs for stuff like this?

winged knoll
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Not an Atom, 2GB+ of RAM, 100 Mb/s or better networking, not an SD card for storage

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You can run HA on a Pi3 after all

subtle burrow
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yea fair

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so in theory: a pi4 with ssd would be sufficient for a lot?

winged knoll
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Yes

subtle burrow
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how much overpay is the link/store i sent? cause it does make it easy with an fan installed

zealous dune
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like double πŸ˜„

subtle burrow
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a standalone pi 4 8 gb is also 90

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the ssd aint too great and is worth 25 or smth

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but yea the no hassle and it being installed helps. I build pcs but never tried anything with a pi, but guess it aint much different

zealous dune
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its mostly the same thing without much building

winged knoll
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Clipping a Pi + SSD + Case together is easier than building a PC

subtle burrow
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yea guess so

broken mist
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HA runs on SSD+PI? Normally PI uses SD card, no?

subtle burrow
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True that, i dont see a lot of positive feedback on sd cards tho

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depends on the amount of writings

winged knoll
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SD cards have a short lifespan, at least the non-industrial ones do

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Pi systems have been able to USB boot for years now, so you can run them from an SSD

subtle burrow
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right?

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and its a good system to begin with, as far as ive read and researched

winged knoll
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Good enough starter system if you have nothing better

zealous dune
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i'd like a wage like that for 15min of work

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unless they offer warranty

winged knoll
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But yeah, save some money and put it together yourself

broken mist
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zealous dune
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meh

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i doubt it will be full plug and play

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sound more: plug and pray and fix what doesn't work

subtle burrow
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yea fair

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offer support to get it working i guess

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you get warranty for the first 14 days if it arrives broken

zealous dune
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that's just honoring eu consumer law

subtle burrow
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yea precisely

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but seeing its a normal pi4 there shouldnt be a lot going wrong

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broken mist
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Can someone point me to a smart LED strip, ideally zigbee, that is suitable for stair steps? So say if you ahve 20 steps, you have 20 strips, and I want to control them individually

winged knoll
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That's either 20 strips and controllers (analogue) or one WLED (digital) strip and 20 segments

broken mist
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analogue = every strip would have to have its own controlled (physical box?) and I guess that's a no-no for 20 strips

winged knoll
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Analogue means that the strip is one colour/brightness/etc at a time

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Digital means you can control every LED individually

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So, 20 separately controlled stairs would require, for analogue, 20 separate LED strips and their controllers

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20 stairs that are controlled as one wouldn't

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slim lagoon
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YAML formatting matters. The second platform: dht should be - platform: dht

drifting grove
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omg you are right!!!

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tank you so much!!! :)))

slim lagoon
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Anytime

naive osprey
placid obsidian
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Anyone have recommendation in ir controller for mini split? I want it to be able to get the temp from the unit or have thier own sensor. I have a handful of esp32 and esp8266 on hand.. I have tried a couple ready made solutions (one recommendation from manufacturer it was aweful) tried a celio and that thing breaks if it's not connected to the cloud and I don't want that on my air conditioner

fringe moon
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I use a broadlink with one

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And gonna build an esp for the other one probably

placid obsidian
fringe moon
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No

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I use room temperature sensors for that

placid obsidian
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Cool I saw commands in smartir for fetching temp sensors but I also didn't think a broad link could do that since it's just actively listening. Sounds like I need to find a good write up on esp,remote ir, and temp sensors.

fringe moon
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Generic climate device

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@placid obsidian

placid obsidian
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Nice. I needed to re-up and lcd screens anyways. Can't believe this product doesn't just exist like local API isn't alot to ask for. I legitimately think that a company could build itself on just making home automation devices that work off local.

distant dove
slim lagoon
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Vibration sensors aren't great indicators for newer washers or dryers (especially ones leveled properly). For most washers, a good smart outlet with power monitoring is better. If you can find one for the dryer, that would be better as well. If the washer and/or dryer are older models that do rattle around a bit, the Aqara vibration sensors are pretty good.

distant dove
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That's a good point. My dryer is 11ish years old and my washer is 5 or so. They are both well leveled and generally don't vibrate too much. I was curious if these sensors would be sensitive enough to pic up subtle vibrations. Sounds like an outlet w/monitoring may be the way to go. Thank you!

slim lagoon
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Worse comes to worse, you could always order one of the vibration sensors and test it out. If it works, awesome. If it doesn't, they work well as glass-break sensors as well πŸ˜‰

distant dove
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That's true. My house has WAY too many windows though. lol

slim lagoon
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I only have 20, so not that bad, but it's been something in the back of mind for awhile now. I have contact sensors on them, but that really only detects open/close. In a glass break situation, they wouldn't do crap. BUT... There's nasty, pointy, slashy Holly bushes in front of all of our windows... so, if someone did want to break in through a window, it's going to hurt them on the way in. lol

distant dove
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Well, now you justified adding vibration sensors to all my windows... just need to get the accountant... er, the wife's approval. πŸ™‚

slim lagoon
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You're welcome πŸ˜‰

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and same

distant dove
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hahaha

tidal pollen
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hi....what hardware do you guys suggest for doorbell/NFC unlock that goes well with HA?

distant dove
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Do you use ubiquiti network gear? If so, their doorbell is great.

tidal pollen
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I'm gathering info on which way to go...ubiquiti has the doorbell and the access...but they're not integrated, unfortunately.

distant dove
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What do you mean? I have UniFi Protect integrated into HA. When someone rings my door bell, I get an iOS notification. I don't use their access solution though, so I can't really speak to that.

tidal pollen
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yeah I would like to have NFC door unlock too...preferably integrated with some video doorbell

waxen talon
tidal pollen
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even so, it seems to be only phone notifications. am I correct @distant dove ?

waxen talon
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Through homebridge I get full camera audio and video in HomeKit.

timber condor
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Still on the NFC train, anybody have a favorite or easy NFC reader that can trigger an action? Most of the articles out there are about using your phone as the reader (put a tag somewhere, tap it, and your phone does the thing). I want to set up a thing that my phone is the tag and the reader triggers the action when certain phones tap it. (Reason - I want to trigger an action where my wifi is bad enough that it takes a while for my phone to join and I’m impatient. I’d rather tap my phone against the reader to trigger the action - open my garage.)

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An amazon search for NFC Readers are all USB devices. I’m going to guess I’ll need to go arduino or rPi or something but that sounds like a lot of work.

gloomy spoke
timber condor
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Good timing! I just landed on the rPi pages and at $35 for a pi even if I got a standard USB nfc reader it’d still beat the pants off the things I found above.

gloomy spoke
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That hat is like $14

timber condor
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Thanks for that link, I hadn’t found it yet and it appears to be exactly what I was imagining.

upper yoke
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what's the most lowest power usage device i can buy for face/person recognition on a camera?

distant dove
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broken mist
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One more thing that someone maybe can help me understand. Yesterday I mentioned that the wiring is not set in walls yet (of the flat I'm buying) and so just for my curiosity's sake, as a layman - if you have a hallway, with eg 5 dumb lights, and you have 2 smart switches/dimmers on one and and the other end:

  1. When you turn on one, the other is bound to "toggle" its state? Is this done by binding (assuming the switch/dimmer supports this) or is this done through HA? Ie. you come home, you turn on the lights at the hallway -> you walk through the hallway -> you turn off the lights on the other end.

  2. For my understanding's sake - how is this normally done with regular switches, not smart ones? When you press one, how does the, physical, mechanism in the other one close (relay) the circuit?

winged knoll
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  1. Either
  2. Wiring πŸ˜„
broken mist
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  1. Either

Hmm hold up, would the second switch (at the end of the hallway) be connected to the circuit at all? Wouldn't it be easier to always have 1 dimmer/switch per circuit and if you add others, just get electricity into the dimmer/swtich and when you turn it on/off/dim you send the signal to the dimmer/switch physically connected to the circuit?

winged knoll
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If those are smart switches, generally you won't have them done with multi-way wiring (unless they're designed for that - go look at the link)

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Now, whether the secondary switches can talk directly to the primary, that's a big box if "maybe"

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Hence, either

broken mist
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But in case they cannot talk directly with each other, they can still talk through server/controller, right?

winged knoll
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Well, they can "talk" to HA, and HA can talk to them, so sort of

broken mist
broken mist
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Wouldn't it make sense for icasa to manufacture/sell a dimmer with actuator and without one? but from the outside they look the same...? so that when you rotate the "fake" dimmer, it is bound to the real dimmer (one per circuit) that has the actuator inside?

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Or am I completely misunderstanding the concept πŸ€”

winged knoll
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You're not, but you're also talking about something that's not likely to sell in great volume

broken mist
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Right, but in my case, what should I do? Whenever I want 2+ dimmers per circuit do I connect them physically into the circuit? That's a bit of a waste of money I think, surely there is extra wiring and extra actuator that's not needed

winged knoll
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One smart dimmer/switch per connected light

zealous dune
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2x dimmers on a circuit won't work with standard dimmers

broken mist
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I mean at the end of the day it's not that bad, because that's probably the normal way to do things (wiring wise), and buying 4 extra dimmers or w/e is not a big cost, but I just find it redundant, tha's all

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OK, so at point A I have one smart dimmer, at point B I also want a dimmer controlling the same circuit, how do I go about that?

zealous dune
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like you need special 2way switches you'd need special 2way dimmers

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which i don't think there are in the "smart" world

broken mist
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so what's the normal way to do it? surely this is a common problem... having to control the same circuit from point A and point B, where you want to have dimmers on both ends

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so you can physically turn the wheel

zealous dune
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probably central dimming unit with two controllers, i never saw or did a multiway dimmer installation

winged knoll
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Or modules

broken mist
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from my understanding that's inside the wall, not visible at all

zealous dune
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i can only see a momentary switch connector on those

broken mist
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momentary
what does this mean?

zealous dune
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pushbutton or not a toggle switch

broken mist
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right

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sure, but I would think it's possible to connect to this device through zigbee protocol, to control it...

zealous dune
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yes you can use any remote

broken mist
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remote = controller, no? in this sense:

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probably central dimming unit with two controllers, i never saw or did a multiway dimmer installation

zealous dune
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"zigbee remote" in this case

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controllers can be wired, zigbee, rf, whatever

broken mist
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I feel like I'm trying to shoehorn my basic understanding of these stuff into a solution, but there must be something for this...

One room, with two entrances/exits. X dumb bulbs in the room. Both entrances/exists should have dimmers, physically, on the walls so that you can turn on/off/dim the lights as you wish

zealous dune
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not very smart πŸ˜„

broken mist
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And they should look identical, so you don't have 5 types of dimmers/switches on the walls...

broken mist
zealous dune
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the point of smart lighting is that you don't need to physically control it from everywhere

broken mist
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whether the actual physical hardware (dimmer wheel) is phsyically connected by the wires to the actual circuit, is not important. I'm asking how to do it so taht it feels natural

zealous dune
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central dimmer unit and controllers

broken mist
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right

zealous dune
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or smart bulbs and controllers

broken mist
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can you link me some controller in this context? I assume it's a physical "wheel" that has electricity wired to it (or battery) and that sends/receives signals

zealous dune
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wheel or button remote

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like the Ikea ones

winged knoll
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The challenge is that for your use you need to find ones that either support Binding or you simply put HA in the middle and let it handle it - which won't be as smooth when it comes to dimming

broken mist
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ye but that goes in the direction of having 10 different "devices" on the walls for the same function (dimming, wheel) which is not nice (looking)

winged knoll
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Well, depends... you may not have to attach a load

broken mist
zealous dune
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schneider electric does everything with a unified plate look in mind

winged knoll
zealous dune
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most people don't buy with the intent of designing stuff ground up

broken mist
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OK, let me put it another way. If you had an existing living room with traditional on/off switches, two switches, one on each end, how would you turn this into a dimmable living room where you can dimm it with either of the switches (dimmers) on each end?

zealous dune
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i wouldn't πŸ˜„

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my living room lights are on adaptive lighting

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if i really need to change the brightness i tell google or whip out my phone

winged knoll
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Other than a hallway, I've never seen a room where the lights can be dimmed from opposite ends

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Personally I'd have a single dimmer, and automate it

zealous dune
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everyone thinks its cute to have dimming/rgb/whatnot but uses it 0.5% of the time

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usually its just light on/ light off

winged knoll
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Anywhere we've got automated lighting, we do manual control almost never

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At most it's on/off

zealous dune
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unless you're quite OCD about the exact dim level

winged knoll
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That's what tuning your Adaptive Lighting settings are for πŸ˜‚

zealous dune
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mine are default, no one complains or even notices

fringe moon
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Yeah, I've set ranges for rooms

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because I want some rooms to be brighter or dimmer

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that's it

winged knoll
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That's what I've done

fringe moon
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Power on in the morning

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power off in the evening

zealous dune
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i wish they'd merge AL in HA already

fringe moon
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πŸͺ„

winged knoll
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I've also set different levels for different bulbs in the same room, so that the apparent brightness matches

fringe moon
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The flux component has been shit since day one

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and should be purged

zealous dune
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oh tell me about it

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ages ago i spent days on it thinking i was doing something wrong

fringe moon
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I tried it for a week in the beginning

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gave up

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moved to Circadian Ligthing

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never looked back

winged knoll
# zealous dune i wish they'd merge AL in HA already

I don't expect that'll happen... https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/40626#issuecomment-835594561

From an architectural perspective, I'm not really sure if this should even be an integration level. In general, the functionality offered by this integration (and the Circadian Lighting / Flux integrations as well) are really useful and used by the community in all kinds of forms.

I might even dare to say, that functionality like this should be more embedded in Home Assistant Core itself.

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Does look like the author of that and Circadian may get together and work on things though 🀞

broken mist
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sorry had to go afk; so you are saying to have a dim controller in the walls, and only regular (smart) on/off switches everywhere that are bound to the dimmer? or what's the setup like? I assume you have to have a dimming control unit in order to have adaptive lightning, unless you have smart bulbs everywhere

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I agree - 99% use case is just turn on/off, that's why I looked for dimmers that support "on/off" functionality, but also have the physical wheel

tidal pollen
broken mist
zealous dune
broken mist
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right; but as this changes colors it requires smart bulbs, right?

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dumb, dimmable, lights are not enough

zealous dune
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changing colors includes dimming

fringe moon
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some bulbs even change colour when they dim, even without colour being controllable

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philips has a few of those

broken mist
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yes those I saw

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I was referring to adaptive lightning

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I would think that requires smart bulbs (which of course can be dimmed, but more importantly change color)

fringe moon
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I use mostly IKEA Tradfri CT bulbs

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I have three RGB lights in total

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and 1 smart switch

winged knoll
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Adaptive, for dimming, will work fine with dimmers - it just can't change the temperature of the light itself

broken mist
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OK, so I can see the software side of things, that's not my worry, but, hardware wise:

  1. circuit with dumb, dimmable, lights (eg the philips ones that change warmth, let's say)
  2. dimming control unit that's inside the walls, and not visible (???)
  3. smart on/off switches where needed, not physically wired to the circuit, but bound to the dimmer (???)

You come to the room, toggle (physically) switch - and what happens?

winged knoll
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A signal is sent somewhere and something happens, or not

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If Binding is supported then the dimmer receives the on/off signal

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If not, HA does, and any automation you've written runs

broken mist
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That makes sense. And lastly - does a dimmer have on/off state or does it only have a sense of 0-100 scale? That is, does a dimmer remember that last time it was "on", it had 70% brightness set, so the next time it receives "turn on" signal from the switch, it will turn on at 70%?

I know that through software side of things, ha, you can probably intercept the signal and do whatever you want based on it, including adaptive lightning, but I'm curious how advanced can the binding be

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If the binding is only "on/off", can the dimmer receive periodic info from ha on what brightness it should be at a time? So that the lights turn on/off faster as they don't have to communicate through ha, but they also turn at a correct brightness, as the dimmer's settings are periodically set to whatever brightness ha is saying it should go at - given the sun's position etc. Or is that not a thing? This sort of binding & ha

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The more I read and discuss about dimmers + dumb lights, the more tempted I'm to go smart all the way. Everything seems easier... from dimming itself (funnily enough), to turning things on/off, to wiring...

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But I have this paranoia that "what if" things to wrong, ie. controller, HA, dies and will take me XYZ hours to get up and running, that I won't be able to turn on the lights at all

zealous dune
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in that case, just burn the furniture

winged knoll
winged knoll
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Honestly, it sounds like you're trying to boil the ocean/eat the elephant here. Rather than trying to solve everything right now, prepare the house for the future solution (you've already been given a load of advice on that topic, and there's even more on this on the forum). That gives you time to start small and learn as you go.

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Alternatively, get in a professional/experienced local who can sit down with you and get things working the way you want

broken mist
broken mist
broken mist
# winged knoll Honestly, it sounds like you're trying to boil the ocean/eat the elephant here. ...

Indeed. I'm just trying to wrap my head around things, so I know what to tell the electricians on how to do things. Basically there are 2 solutions that I think of right now, wiring wise:

(1) Everything is 1 circuit, everything is smart, not future proof; ie. cannot take out smart lights, replace them with dumb lights, and smart switches -> dumb switches.

(2) Everything is split into circuits as if you had dumb lights/switches, except there will be smart switches/lights everywhere, meaning it will behave like 1 circuit in a sense that electricity will flow everywhere all the time, except smart lights will get turned on when requested. Future proof, as I can always throw out the smart switches/lights and turn the circuit into a dumb one. Now, whether I go with smart lights and smart switch, or dumb lights and smart dimmer/switch, that's not relevant to wiring of the specific circuit... (obviously cannot go dumb switch with smart lights and expect them to work when dumb switch is off)

winged knoll
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Dive into the forum threads, but basically run neutral to every light switch and then you're future proof

broken mist
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from my understanding - yes, kind of future proof. If you go with dumb switches you cannot then separate one of the bulbs from the circuit and make it smart, and expect it to work when the dumb switch is turned off, as that's not physically possible (but it would work when the circuit is turned on)

broken mist
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so what I'll be probably doing is smart bulbs + remote controllers (let's not call it smart switch, as a smart switch also interacts with the electricity in a given circuit) and then bind it up (in case it's possible) & turn on/off/have dimness settings there etc. These controllers will be where the dumb switches would be, so that I can take them any time and replace them with dumb/smart switches, and smart bulbs with dumb bulbs, in case I decide so in the future...

civic kraken
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Does anyone know of smart 12V DC current/energy meters? Zigbee, wifi, diy?

zealous dune
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Diy with INA21x current sensor

civic kraken
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Thanks, I'll look into that

civic kraken
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Seems pretty great with ESPHome support too. Might end up doing that

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How much current can these handle? I can't seem to find that in the specsheet or am I misunderstanding how these work? I'm looking at the INA3221 atm. I can continue in DIY if no one has a simple answer πŸ™‚ 1.6A if I understand it correctly and if I want more I need a lower resistance shunt?

distant dove
tidal pollen
distant dove
tidal pollen
distant dove
tidal pollen
distant dove
tidal pollen
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@distant dove does the video have sound? if so, it just needs 1 way audio

distant dove
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It does!, @tidal pollen

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I've always just used it for the video. lol

tidal pollen
distant dove
tidal pollen
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And dis anyone got some sort of integration with the unifi Access hub?

dense fossil
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Anyone seen this before ? Aqara Smart Scene Panel Switch S1 3.95 inch Touch Screen APP Siri Voice Control Work Apple HomeKit for Smart Home
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKCISMp

zealous dune
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yes

dense fossil
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Since it act also a gateway

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I was wondering how to integrate it into HA

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I want to use HA on my tablet and phone and also uses these aqara display in my room

zealous dune
dense fossil
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I use zb2mqtt for their devices, the devices will be shown in HA but not the aqara device ui

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Oh thanks for the help

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Let me look into the doc

devout cairn
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I need a door lock. I don't have zigbee or z-wave (yet).

can anyone recommend a door lock that'd integrate well with HA and a USB adapter for my (docker) HA installation?

atomic hearth
fallen coral
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Hello.

Which is a good display with touch for ac control which a thermostat?
I already have a universal ir blaster.
Though id add a touch screen in the wall

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I see many tuya cheap touch screen thermostat but not sure if it will work with hass

golden quail
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So I picked up an RTL SDR USB dongle and and a little confused as to how to set it up to read local data. Most guides I've read are about rPi setups and using rtl-rpi... but I haven't been able to find anything regarding a core setup. Any links I might be able to follow? I already have Mosquitto set up and working quite well. My main priority is to make sure everything is set up and ready to be able to read data from weather sensors (Accurrite Weather Tower).

upper yoke
upper yoke
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i set one up this way to read old simplisafe sensors over the air because they're encrypted.

upper yoke
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is there anything super low cost and quiet (preferably passively cooled or single board) that can run doods well as a standalone device?

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my pi4 running has chokes on it.

winged knoll
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Get a Coral board/stick

fringe moon
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also, run frigate

fallen coral
zealous dune
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the one you make yourself πŸ˜‰

fallen coral
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Lol

bright jacinthBOT
drifting grove
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😦

winged knoll
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Yeah, neither we nor the bot like walls of text...

drifting grove
# fallen coral Hello. Which is a good display with touch for ac control which a thermostat? ...

Last month I was also looking for in-wall 120V touch screens. Tuya is not an option for me as I don't want my IoT network connected to the cloud. There are few options.

The only ready-made option I could find was the "Lanbon L8 5 in 1 LCD Touch Switch." It can be flashed with tasmota. I'll let you decide on if the front end seems functional enough for you.

Then there's the Wink Relay. It's a 2-gang mini-tablet running android that will also control 2 loads. Can be setup so it's 100% offline.

The HA SwitchPlate is an option if you're willing to assemble from a kit.

Another option is to wall-mount a tablet in front of a recessed outlet. A ton of people make wall mounts, but they are a niche product.

Find supporting links here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NWRhxkQqFp/

drifting grove
winged knoll
drifting grove
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Oh, yes, absolutely, I'm in the wrong here. I don't disagree with the policy and I completely trust that the rule is there for good reason. I just had a reaction, hah

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It's all good

fallen coral
drifting grove
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Ah! I didn't understand that you wanted a thermostat unit with touch display controls

winged knoll
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This server is all about Home Assistant

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If it's supported by HA and supported by that integration then HA can expose it to HomeKit, within the limits listed there

devout cairn
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@drifting grove

Tasmota is not an option for me as I don't want my IoT network connected to the cloud. There are few options.
tasmota doesn't connect to the "cloud"

fallen coral
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I see so many display thermostat wifi based with tuya.
Most of them are for water heater and boilers.
I just need its temperature sensor and On off button to pass command to hass

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your question is not accurate or maybe not well explained

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I think the question answers itself
If it is not compatible that means its not compatible isnt it ?

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if there was any other way around then it would be somewhat compatible

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you can try the closest integrator for that device and see if you can get it to work

golden quail
frosty zephyr
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So I’ve got HA running on a VM on an old laptop and it will work fine for some days. Then after a while the zigbee devices won’t work. I think it may be due to usb connectivity issues with the conbee(as sometimes I hear the disconnect and reconnect sound). Is anyone has had a similar issue how has it been rectified? Would suggest moving to a pi instead?

winged knoll
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If you're running #330990055533576204 they may be able to help over there, since it may depend on your choice of VM software too

frosty zephyr
grave frost
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I'm currently using a fire10hd(2019) with kiosk browser as a wall mount. Is there any apps I can use you control the charging so that it stays within a window (40-80%)?

devout cairn
grave frost
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I'd be fine with a hardware fix idea as well, but I know for example, on my rooted android phone I can control the charging

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but root is an issue with this tablet so just curious if any software options, and if not a hardware option will work as well. Just trying to see if anyone has done anything similar

gentle fossil
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you donβ€˜t want to control your battery level

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why would you do that

grave frost
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from my understanding there is risk of fire when you have the tablet charging/connected to charger and it's at 100% all the time

gentle fossil
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battery controllers have that figured out since a long time

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if it catches fire its a manufacturing fault.
and it can always catch fire, independent of charge state

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you are more likely to make it catch fire by never letting it charge to 100%

grave frost
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hmm gotcha. Thanks! Always prefer less work!

elder rune
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I am using some Gosund smart plugs, set up through the Tuya app and Tuya integration. Would the Gosund smart wall outlet work just the same? I don't see a lot of mention of smart wall outlets in my Google searching.

rocky tapir
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anyone know of a dimmer switch that supports transitions. i had zwave GE ones that used to but got depreciated, i ordered some tplink kasa smart ones but they apparently arent capable in HA.

static beacon
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I'm Thinking of connecting the raspi 4b to a powerbank and connect the powerbank to the wall outlet. To create a failsafe when the power is cut off. Would this be a good idea and what powerbank should I use

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I read allot good things about Anker but never had one

gentle fossil
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please put all of it in a fireproof case at the end

winged knoll
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If they're not designed for that kind of use, bad things may happen

elder rune
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@elder rune Well I read some reviews and it looks like it connects just fine to home assistant.

static beacon
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Or buy a Samsung tab a7. It's pretty cheap and Samsung have build in some features like the ability to let it only charge to 85% and keep it at that level.

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After setting it up and rebooting it shows 100% full when it is at 85%.

grave frost
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@rocky tapir Have you looked into Inovelli?

rocky tapir
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I haven't. Just had a lutron caseta in my hand at store... But did a quick Google search and HA doesn't seem to do transition with it either. Looking at WeMo maybe... Going insane trying to find a dimmer that does the only main functionality I want in it

grave frost
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hmm there are speed parameters with the inovelli switches so I would think it should allow for transition

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I have a few but haven't tried that yet

rocky tapir
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There are speed parameters in the casa smart dimmer as well but you just can't access them in HA

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I really want to do a 30-minute transition but I would settle with a 10-minute one built into the dimmer but I just don't know how to make it do that on its own by feeding a command nor do I think it's possible

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On the plus side though they do react way better than the Z-Wave switches I had in there which would intermittently not work so at least I'm winning on one thing

hexed bolt
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Has any tried the aqara buttons relatively exposed outside (as a doorbell)?

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Reckon it’ll die in minutes/days?

slim lagoon
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Why would you think that?

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I don't have buttons outside, but I do have contact and motion sensors.

hexed bolt
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Because I can’t see any mention of waterproofing and haven’t actually got one yet to gauge

slim lagoon
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Ahhhh, yeah, I see what you mean now. You would need to waterproof it somehow.

hexed bolt
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I get that it’s inappropriate, was just wondering before delivery if it’s feasible

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Possibly pinched before dying πŸ™‚

slim lagoon
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Yeah, honestly, I'd just go with a regular doorbell camera setup.

hexed bolt
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Yeah, that’s likely the route I’ll take

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Thanks!

errant sinew
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Hi I am interested in the Eurotronic Comet wifi radiator valves. In this post https://community.home-assistant.io/t/wifi-radiator-valve-thermostat-eurotronic-comet-wifi/260038 there is talk about an API coming available. However this is nit official and therefore I think uncertian. I was thinking of buying one to try it out and see if I can reverse engineer the protocol between the android app and the device. Has anyone got experience in how such devices would work and it this is even feasable?

woven cave
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my Home Assistant device, which runs off a RPi4 is acting very slowly, like 4 minutes to load the dashboard slow, are there any tools which can be used to find out what the source for the slowness is, because i re-installed it 3 months ago and at the time it was running perfectly. thanks in advanced

slim lagoon
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There's been some grumblings about the 2021.6 version being slow for some people.

woven cave
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it's just the magnitude of the slowness which is weird, sometimes the dashboard wont even load because the browser times out

woven cave
slim lagoon
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Hmmm... What install method are you on and are you using the default db (recorder: settings)?

woven cave
slim lagoon
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If you don't know, then we can assume your using the built-in sqlite default settings (which is typically fine). In the past 3 months, how much have you added to your dashboard? Are you seeing device slow-downs as well? Things like automations not firing or lights/switches not able to be toggled or missing events or anything like that?

woven cave
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Device slowdowns are what originally made me re-install it (as well as a corrupted SD card). So at that point i got a new high quality SD Card, and it worked perfectly for a while, but now its started hugely slowing down yet again

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I haven't added anything new to my dashboard in that time, like at all

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the slowdowns do kinda knock-onto addons like Deconz which cause the zigbee network to slow down a lot

slim lagoon
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Hmmmm... sounds to me more like a possible hardware issue more than anything else. Personally, I'd ditch the SD card and get either a quality SSD or thumb-drive (with the former being preferred). Plus, how many add-ons are you running?

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But, sans the SD card issue, let's talk about your add-ons... so, Deconz for one... what else?

woven cave
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my enabled addons are: deConz, Mosquitto MQTT Broker, File Editor, Terminal & SSH

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I also have quite a dew disabled addons but i think im right in saying that wouldnt affect perf

slim lagoon
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Yeah, I agree... that's a tiny amount (compared to what I've seen some people run lol)

woven cave
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yeah, but if i were to have a lot of addons i'd run it on something more beefy than an RPi

slim lagoon
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So, out of curiosity... do you have a spare rPi laying around that you can pop the SD card into and test on?

woven cave
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Got another 4 lying on my desk right here, but its late at night right now so i dont want to go and start messing around with the setup while my flatmates are asleep (because there's quite a lot of stuff there lol)

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is there any way to see if there are specific things in HASS which could be using resources

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apart from running htop or smth

slim lagoon
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You could use the profiler integration.

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But, I'd check to see if it's a hardware issue as well.

woven cave
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okay, thank you, i'll give that a try tomorrow and let you know how it goes

lusty summit
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If I'm using an HA on a Raspberry Pi with an SDCARD, should I still move to MariaDB for recorder or stick with SQLite

slim lagoon
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Move to MariaDB. Much more stable and less taxing on your rPi.

lusty summit
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Even with SDCard?

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Is there certain things I should exclude from MariaDB?

slim lagoon
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Ah, no. Get a good SSD or thumb-drive and ditch the SD card.

lusty summit
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Hmmm I'm maxed out on USBs

gloomy spoke
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you should exclude anything you don't care about, especially things that bounce around a lot or record things like the time or sunrise/sunset, or whatever

slim lagoon
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Things you don't really care about history-wise? Personally, I only track temperature, motion and contact sensors. Lights, switches, locks, etc... don't care. Plus, I run InfluxDB as well.

lusty summit
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I have a 8TB HDD plugged into my USB3 and bluetooth & conbee dongles on my USB2

gloomy spoke
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even better, just include what you care about

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every so often I go into the History tab and look for bars with a zillion colored stripes and target that for exclusion

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that's pretty much all I use the History tab for

slim lagoon
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Same.

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lol and same.

hot sun
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Prime example on what not to do

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gloomy spoke
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Yep, that’s the one

hot sun
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I should fix that really

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it's actually an uptime sensor so it's supposed to be a graph πŸ€”

#

is there actually a difference in terms of database performance whether it's stored as text sensor or continuous data?

smoky perch
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Does anyone know of a smart outlet that will allow me to run an automation based on how much power is running thru it?

bright jacinthBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
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gloomy spoke
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but there are lots of ZWave, Zigbee, wifi options to monitor power and interface with HA

smoky perch
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What good wifi ones are there? (US)

drifting grove
slate estuary
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I may well be in the wrong channel, please point me in the right direction if I am.. I have a bunch of Arlec brand sockets (all flashed with tasmota), some have power monitoring and some, the cheaper sort, don't. I only use the cheaper non-power monitoring ones for devices with a fixed load. e.g. a heater or a bulb that uses a constant wattage while on. I would love to be able to get Home Assistant to treat these sockets as "virtual" power monitoring sockets, if I preconfigure a known load/wattage.

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If anyone has done anything like this, or has any ideas where I should start, please say πŸ™‚

devout cairn
radiant forge
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Do I need a hub for an Ikea dimmer switch?

slim lagoon
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Yes... ish. You need a Zigbee controller.

radiant forge
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Oh okay, can you recommend one? Is it intuitive?

slim lagoon
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Check out the pins in #zigbee-archived. Intuitive? Mostly, yes. But, the #zigbee-archived channel has a LOT of experts that can walk you through the basic setup of either ZHA (the built-in Zigbee handler in HA) or Z2M (Zigbee2MQTT).

sonic vale
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Anyone have experience with troubleshooting bluetooth? I'm running homeassistant OS. It doesn't seems to find any and putting debug on bluetooth_tracker doesn't yield much help tbh
(please tag me)

winged knoll
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How did you install HAOS @sonic vale ?

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If in a VM you'll need to pass the Bluetooth device through after all

sonic vale
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Yeah, it's installed in a VM. All usb ports are currently passthroughed to the VM. The NUC itself got built in bluetooth. But I added a dongle as well

winged knoll
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Does the Supervisor show the Bluetooth device?

sonic vale
winged knoll
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Look in the hardware menu?

bright jacinthBOT
#

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winged knoll
sonic vale
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Yeah, on it. Things are where they used to be, so it's taking a bit longer

slate cipher
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lay it out people, zigbee wired light switches or shelly's behind my existing switches? what would you do and why is one better than the other?

gentle fossil
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what is the difference? afaik shelly is also wired. me confused

zealous dune
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i do both 😁

winged knoll
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IMO Zigbee > WiFi, purely because it's not WiFi πŸ˜›

slate cipher
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one would be replacing the entire wall plate, the other is just putting a device in behind the wall

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also zigbee v wifi

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and having a propper switch, not a touch thing

winged knoll
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You can get Zigbee modules, just like the Shelly

slate cipher
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nothing legal here I don't think

zealous dune
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there's also wired wifi toggle switches

slate cipher
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probably not legal here either πŸ˜„

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i live in a nanny state

zealous dune
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options are there, rest is between your nanny and you

slate cipher
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fines start at $10,000 AUD for touching a power point without an electrical license

zealous dune
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that's why you get a sparky

slate cipher
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installing something that is not certified here not only comes with bigger fines, it voids your insurance

slate cipher
crisp mauve
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Installing a lightbulb can technically get you fined in Victoria

sonic vale
bright jacinthBOT
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@sonic vale When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

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winged knoll
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I'm not your personal support bot - you don't have to tag me in every response πŸ˜‰

sonic vale
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Sorry

slate cipher
sonic vale
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Will HA complain (in debug) about no available bluetooth devices if you configure

device_tracker:

  • platform: bluetooth_tracker
    Without actually have one?
crisp mauve
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I'm pretty sure, yes. I ran into errors with a real controller being unavailable through docker all the time

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Why would you be running the integration without a device?

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(but now room assistant is doing my Bluetooth tracking on a bunch of other devices)

fierce linden
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Does Lutron have a dual switch in their Caseta line?

sonic vale
# crisp mauve Why would you be running the integration without a device?

Well I'm to troubleshoot the bluetooth. It doesn't register any devices. I've tried running the service manually as well. According to the log it does scan.

I'm actually trying to troubleshoot mi flora, but those are a lot slower with updates. So assumed if i can get scanning to work. Those would as well

eternal mason
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Anyone have thoughts about the Phillips Hue integration vs linking bulbs directly to my HUSBZB-1 combo stick? Trying to figure out any cons, I'd love to ditch the hub entirely

slim lagoon
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Should be fine so long as your Zigbee channel is 11, 15, 20, or 25. The only cons would be that you would be relying on mains-powered repeaters in your mesh (bulbs are not great repeaters).

eternal mason
slim lagoon
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You might still want a repeater or two as even though it's a small space, you have to factor in walls and other things that will diminish your line-of-sight signal

eternal mason
slim lagoon
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Basically any mains powered device can serve as a repeater with some exceptions. Even if you buy a couple of smart plugs that you never use, that'll still help out your mesh. You can check https://zigbee.blakadder.com/ for devices and ask around in #zigbee-archived as well.

eternal mason
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Very cool, I'll check that out. Thank you!

sonic vale
eternal mason
slim lagoon
austere flare
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so I installed a usb zwave device and enabled the Zwave: in config. how do I use this thing now?

gloomy spoke
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That’s the wrong way to start πŸ™‚

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πŸ‘†

austere flare
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I used a different one, not sure what to put for the URL on this when you install it

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also let me add that I am using Container on synology which makes it more difficult

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not even sure if the zwave usb is even loaded

gloomy spoke
undone haven
languid gale
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So I have a bit of a problem with a esp8266 powered mqtt binary Sensor I built (It uses the PubSubClient library). It works perfectly fine, but after a few hours when nothing happened, it just stops working. Is there some kind of standby mode I have to disable, or what could be the problem?

raven mortar
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Hi there, I've been trying to get Home Assistant work on my Samsung family hub. When I open the page on the Samsung browser if takes me to the inlog screen. After inlogging it will only display a blank page with the blue bar being empty on top. There's no troubleshooting I can do on the browser, as the settings are very limited. I've had no success finding a fix online. The device is running Tizen 4. Does anyone know of a way? I was planning on using the family hub as my main dashboard

past meadow
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Can anyone recommend any wide rocker light switch covers to make a dumb switch smart? I would prefer not to replace any of the existing switches right now, nor can I easily replace my light with a smart bulb.
I know the Lutron Aurora and the Third Reality Smart Light Switch exist, but these are made for either a toggle or an American style rocker, while were I live these types of wide rockers are more common: https://i.imgur.com/23bJlm9.jpg
As you can see, they have no screws either, but something I can cover using double sided tape should work.

languid fulcrum
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with voice assistant - Am I better off going ada or perusing down Siri vs Alexa (google is out)

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I have Alexa but feel that I want to strive towards a slightly less "amazon" approach in the household

atomic hearth
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Hello! I’m having issues setting up bluetooth_le_tracker and the custom component ble_monitor on my RPi4 with HassOS (SSD boot). See errors here: https://github.com/custom-components/ble_monitor/issues/388 … any idea what this could be / how I can debug further? Thanks πŸ™πŸ»

upper yoke
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i want to monitor the temp of a heating element. what hardware is out there to achieve this? is there any way to target an area away from the sensor with like a laser or something similar like those temp guns?

rain epoch
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I use a db18b20 dallas sensor in a metal enclosure to get the temp of my watercooling radiator

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not sure if this is what you are looking for but the temp of the rad is pretty close to the water temp in the loop

upper yoke
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I want to get a smart plug but the one recommended to me (aqara) requires a hub I don't have. is there something better than Conbee 2 for has on a pi4? the reviews on Amazon make it sound like it is flakey but idk if that's user error

snow matrix
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hi guys, im running home assistant on a RPi 4 and have some problems regarding high cpu usage. After reboot the cpu sits at 5% but after about 24h it spikes up to 30%. how do i debug this?

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and since its a passivly cooled rpi the temperatures rises from about 55 to 70 which conerns me.

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core-2021.6.2

pine portal
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Would a dual core nuc suffice for home assistant + jellyfin media server and maybe some more containers? How much ram do you guys recommend?

spark dune
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i am looking for a solution to have a 14 inch touchscreen as a wallpanel. I could either get just that or a 14 inch display with some ir frame (which is cheaper). Anyone has experience? I am looking basically for the cheapest option, since its only a prototype

crisp mauve
pine portal
past meadow
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I'm running it as a container in a vm on my NUC5i5RYK model (2cpu, 4 threads) without any troubles

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I am running esxi on the nuc, and about 4 vm's, of which one is running the HA container

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so the NUC7CJYH should be more than enough

pine portal
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Ok thanks, I'll go with 8 gb ram then probably

pearl orbit
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Hello, I'm running hassio on pi 3 with sd card and it randomly stops working. NIC lights indicates its doing something but fing network scan shows its not connected. I have a feeling the sd card is on its way out. How do I verify that? Or what do you think is the problem?

pearl orbit
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Ah nvm I take that back, all signs are pointing to a potential memory leak

elder rune
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Is it worth it to overclock a Pi4 running HassOS? Safe settings?

gloomy spoke
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if you're trying to improve perf, I would look first to an SSD before trying to overclock

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Pi4 already runs pretty hot, and HA doesn't take much CPU

slate viper
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hi there, not sure if this is the right channel, but hardware is sort of closest to it. So I have a Hue bridge and some hue lights. I would like to provide at least minimal functionality in case the hue bridge or the home network is down (i am running all local mode no cloud). What is nice about the Hue's is that by default if you power cycle them they will start to light up so you can sort of use them like any dumb light bulb and just flick a switch to turn them on or off. However under normal circumstances i would want this switch to keep them powered and just send a signal which just turns them off but keeps the line powered. Only when no bridge/network is available the switch should fall back to dumb behaviour. Has anyone find a neat solution for this thing?

elder rune
bold roost
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Hi guys, im trying to upgrade my network and im looking into a new router
my current router is having trouble managing 60+ wifi device
i read about unifi ones but my home is not wired for cat5/6 (and running cables in wall is a no no)
Any ideas what i could potentially get?

im currently runnning an asus ac-3100

golden quail
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Hold out for a router that supports Wifi 6E (not 6, but 6E specifically), or move to a mesh system with multiple points to balance the load. Make sure to use a mesh system that has a supported integration though for better features. I'm using a Unifi setup and have over 200 wireless devices active. Most of them are on their own dedicated VLAN without internet access.

bold roost
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@golden quail thanks for your insight, im wondering how much of a performance gain ill get to switch to a mesh vs my current one right now.
i need quite alot of datarate because i stream my nvidia shield wirelessly through 5g

golden quail
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Most mesh setups work great on the 5GHz bands. Even doing 4K video streams, you wouldn't be able to max out the bandwidth on a mesh if set up correctly. I think a 4K stream is something like 38Gb/s at the top end. A mesh set up could easily handle closer to 170Gb/s even on the early mesh routers like the google wifi hockey pucks.

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Something else you could do is use RG6 Moca converters to extend your local network without ripping up walls.

bold roost
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thanks sounds mesh is the way to go for my case
Currently looking at Amplify HD

primal wren
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ANyone have any recommendations on Outdoor ZIgbee outlet?

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Preferably one with at least two outlets

bright jacinthBOT
#

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
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winged knoll
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The country matters because electrical standards vary across the world...

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Options for the EU aren't a good choice for the USA, for example πŸ˜‰

primal wren
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I need a recommendation for an Outdoor Zigbee Outlet, for use in the USA, with two outdoor outlets connected to it

crisp mauve
# pine portal U know the specific model? I was looking at the NUC7CJYH

I see someone took less than 9 hours to answer already πŸ˜› Mine's a DN2820FYK though, much older but a similar spec. Keep in mind though, it can't handle transcoding at all; one of the other containers I run is actually Emby alongside Jellyfin; I prefer JF but Emby has better compatibility for direct play to the Android app.

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It also runs Grafana fine, but Grafana-renderer makes it chuggg

upper yoke
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i lost my air conditioner remote, so i can't learn the commands from the original remote with my broadlink. do i have any options for sourcing the codes online and converting them somehow?

crisp mauve
eternal mason
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Anyone know if the Withings Sleep Tracker mat 'in_bed' entity actually works? Mine has been unavailable since I first set it up πŸ€”

subtle burrow
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Pi4 8 gb with ssd or a nuc? Nucs are generally more expensive right?

zealous dune
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and generally better

subtle burrow
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whats the price comparison

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nucs seem to be more than 300 euro in the netherlands

winged knoll
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Any second hand PC/laptop, other than those with Atom, from the last decade will be better than a Pi

subtle burrow
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problem is that all old laptops and pcs in my house are from 2009 xD

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but ill still give that laptop a try

winged knoll
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Depending on what's in them they may still be fine

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As long as it's a 64bit CPU with more than one core, and there's at least 2 GB of RAM...

eternal mason
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If you've got budget/space for a full PC you'll definitely have more room, but you can def get by with a Pi

slim lagoon
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rPi3B+ or greater (the 4 would be better).

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The more the better. I would go with 4 at a minimum just to give you some room to grow.

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You could also go with something like a NUC or any other x86/64 based hardware as well.

proven harness
winged knoll
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There are many existing threads on the topic, which may not be helping you

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It's also a very long post, which will discourage a lot of people

analog girder
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About to switch from Google WiFi to UDM. Any good tips?

long charm
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Anyone aware of any programmable/home assistant friendly hot water recirculation pump? I'd like to be able to set one up to recirculate only at times we generally need hot water. (like 6-7 AM) rather than 24/7

gloomy spoke
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I just use a Zwave switch to turn the dumb pump on and off as needed

winged knoll
eternal mason
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I grabbed a USG, a switch and an AP instead and it ended up costing me about $200 less

analog girder
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UDM, no pro. Picked that over USG for performance πŸ™‚

eternal mason
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Fair, it's probably much easier to set up too!

analog girder
proven harness
winged knoll
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Well, if you ask one question per topic, you're more likely to get an answer

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Writing an essay... shrug

proven harness
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I just don't know how to be short in this case. Because we're discussing about system overall, and if you're not very familar, you can ask wrong questions

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and because a lot of things connected each other

winged knoll
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Well, I'd say most of that doesn't really "connect"

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You also listed a lot of later

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LCD screen to show information from HA
That's later, and doesn't "connect" to anything else there

proven harness
bright jacinthBOT
#

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winged knoll
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Or you could buy a Xiaomi hub if you really liked suffering

proven harness
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@proven harness When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

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winged knoll
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@proven harness stop

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tagging

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@proven harness me

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@proven harness or I'll just

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@proven harness block or BAN you

proven harness
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😦

winged knoll
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I was about to reply to your forum thread, but since you want to be obnoxious...

proven harness
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No, I'm not obnoxious. Why do you decided this? Also it's the first server when I seen that replay is a bad idea. I expected that it's better to use reply, because it could be some sort of mess, like it's unclear who answered to whom. because it's a lot of topics

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It's unclear

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Just wanted to be clear, no more...

winged knoll
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We're talking back and fore

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Reply is damned pointless there

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Tagging when replying even more so

proven harness
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I just didn't know this

winged knoll
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I asked you more than once to stop tagging

proven harness
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It was not clear, sorry

winged knoll
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So, you're the kind of person that mentions the other person's name in every sentence?

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Well, good luck... I'm done

proven harness
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No, I'm a person, which prefer to communicate ways which other persons prefers. People are different and you never know what other person prefers. Also it's internet and pandemic time. Everybody is angry 😦

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It's unclear what one person wants and what wants another. Personally me (I speak about me!) prefer when people use reply, to not miss when they anwer me or asks me

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there is no point to see me any bad way, I just didn't know how you, guys, prefer to communicate here, not more

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Sorry, I was not supposed to be obnoxious, I just didn't understood what bot wants from me, just skipped this message. Because bots in the discord often send messages, and probably people mostly skip them

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And I imidiatly stopped when you send message directly (not via bot) because in that time it was clear

long charm
proven harness
gloomy spoke
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I have two pumps - one that has its own timer and auto shut-off, and one that's just a dumb pump that I use with a DIY temp sensor, valve, and switch

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I prefer the control that I get over choosing a quality pump, HA-friendly switch of my choosing, temp sensor of my choosing, and valve. But I've probably also gone overboard here πŸ™‚

proven harness
# winged knoll I asked you more than once to stop tagging

Now I undertood what does it means(I've disabled notification in this message to demostrate that I understood finally). I just didn't understand what bot wants from me. Just expected that it's some sort of not useful automation, which biggest part of servers had. Please excuse me. I really not wanted to do something bad. It was unclear for me what is going on

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Anyone test out the BroadLink Smart Touch Wall Light Switch, 2-Gang Single Live Wire Switch, No Neutral or Capacitor Required
Or the MOES 2nd Generation WiFi RF433 Touch Wall Single Wire Smart Switch，No Neutral Wire Needed

zealous dune
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"test out" is what exactly?

empty vortex
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Anyone have suggestions for a good bed presence sensor

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Want to set up automations based on getting out of bed with the ability to sense if it's my gf or me

zealous dune
static beacon
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Does anyone know if there are wifi modules for Panasonic AC's to make them local polling/push instead the rotten cloud apis

vague galleon
bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
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They even link their Discord from their own documentation

vague galleon
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oh you mean the massive social link buttons in plain sight at the top of the page... how on earth is anyone meant to see those... :oops:

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gets coat

tame wedge
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hey folks, any recommendations for door locks that are compatible with home hub as well as home assistant?

slim lagoon
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Compatible in what way? HA has the HomeKit integration that can make pretty much any lock compatible (aside from maybe some lock specific features).

tame wedge
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ah, well i'm completely new to home automation - i am looking to buy some hardware to automate my door lock, garage door, set up cameras etc... and i don't know where to start. There are sooo many options. I've heard that it's best to avoid blue tooth devices because of their slow reaction time and short range... so i guess wifi devices would work best?
basically the use case scenario is that I want auto unlock if i'm near the door so I don't have to physically interact with it (when i'm carrying groceries in, or just want to walk in etc). And I want it to lock when no one is home.

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I have an iphone and plan on using some kind of home hub - maybe a homepod mini... but i also have an HTPC with windows i could use to set up home assistant. it's always on anyways

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so the question is - what kind of hardware should i look for generally? something like with z-wave technology or zigby (?) or something like that? and is there a door lock anyone can recommend me?

winged knoll
proud condor
# tame wedge ah, well i'm completely new to home automation - i am looking to buy some hardwa...

Gonna add my 50 cents, for reducing long term costs, avoid Bluetooth locks, they are usually very limited in terms of automation. Personally I'd opt for a ZigBee or Z-Wave lock since they can be locally controlled, however in these two cases you'll need a ZigBee/Z-Wave stick, which might not be easily obtainable depending on your location; Wi-Fi works fine but they are often also slow to react unless they are locally controllable, and you have to consider whether an integration is available when going WiFi.

Tl;dr: If you can get a ZigBee/Z-Wave adapter, go for these two, if not, find something that's both WiFi and supported by HA

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For garage, if you have some experiences working with electronics in terms of soldering, you can go with a sonoff SV and put esphome on it. If you don't have time to tinker with these, OpenGarage might be a viable option depending on your situation

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Is this the channel I should be in to ask about troubleshooting a recurring reset of my system? RPI4 with HassOS all up to date. USB SSD. History graph in Grafana shows CPU going up to 30% then slowly climbs for about 45-60 minutes then resets. Is this most likely caused by a dying SSD? I can't see the log prior to it resetting since than gets lost with the reset.

winged knoll
crimson kite
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ty

tame wedge
# proud condor Gonna add my 50 cents, for reducing long term costs, avoid Bluetooth locks, they...

so i'll have to carry around a zigbee/z-wave stick to unlock and lock my door? Using only my cell phone is the entire point of simple home automation for me.

Tell me what you mean by locally controllable:
Wi-Fi works fine but they are often also slow to react unless they are locally controllable
All i want is to be able to walk up to my door and it unlocks it for me without any interaction... or at most, do a screen unlock.

winged knoll
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No, with Zigbee and Z-Wave you build a mesh

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No. The lock connects to Zigbee/Z-Wave and then the HA app on your phone would control locking/unlocking. With an automation you can have it lock/unlock based on your presence.

winged knoll
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If you're wandering around with the stick you're doing it wrong

slim lagoon
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LMAO

tame wedge
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ahhhh makes sense. Okay, so I'm in the US - it should be available on amazon, right?

winged knoll
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Yes, but after you pick Zigbee or Z-Wave see the relevant channel for advice before buying anything

tame wedge
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omg i absolutely LOVE the fact that we have this utlra-specific nerd channel within the community of nerds on a somewhat niche technology

winged knoll
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Neither of which are close to niche, but ... sure πŸ˜›

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Zigbee is far more common than many folks realise

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Hell, it's even on Mars

tame wedge
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I started doing my research by doing just a basic google search for articles on what hardware to get... i was hoping to come across a nerd-written article on what they tried, what failed, what lessons they learned and dos/don'ts etc...
but all I found were poor quality articles that didn't go in to depths of anything except to read off the list of features by the manufacturers and commenting on them.
The market seems ripe for a true, ars-technica style in-depth home automation article that doesn't just talk about the technology, but picks up 3 hardware pieces for each type, compares them and explains what the author used and why... what worked and what didn't.

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that sorta thing will really help folks like me jump start on this stuff

winged knoll
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The answer is... complicated

tame wedge
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they have them for linux boxes and htpc software... should have them for home automation too

winged knoll
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There's a few million possible combos, depending on where in the world you are, your budget, constraints, desires, etc

tame wedge
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yeah, it can start with one region, pick one technology like z-wave, and then go through cameras, doors, blinds, etc

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and so on

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maybe i'll write one if i get time in the future, once i've built some experience with it

winged knoll
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And then you get "little" things like, you want a door lock, but what type of door, and handle, do you have, since not all smart locks fit all doors

tame wedge
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heck i could just chronicle my journey in to home automation

winged knoll
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Many of us do

tame wedge
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like blogs and stuff?

bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
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Yes

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There's a load of Git repos out there with people's setups, and folks have blogs and more

bright jacinthBOT
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The cookbook is a list of example automations. The cookbook also contains links to find people's GitHub copies of their installs.

Command '~cookbook' was invoked by: Tinkerer
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Hell, some folks do regular YouTube things

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People around here generally use less of the "Where do I want to go and what do I need for that" approach and more of "what do I have and what cool stuff can I make from that", I'd say...

tame wedge
winged knoll
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Or oh, that was neat, I wonder if I can do that differently

jovial pulsar
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But such articles can be a good way to get the other kind on board too

tame wedge
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i'm nerdy but am not a programmer (haven't been one in years... many.. many years lol)

winged knoll
tame wedge
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yeah, i was thinking of writing something more for the beginner - to get them started

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like a scaffold in to this wider world of fun technology

winged knoll
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Writing a good primer is hard

slim lagoon
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Primers in the home automation space are usually difficult because it doesn't always start at the platform, especially for a project like HA.

winged knoll
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You have to start by putting the tech in layperson's terms

tame wedge
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maybe i'll start with my personal experience just learning about this stuff first. not a primer for others, but maybe it would help other beginners learn from my mistakes and faulty assumptions, if they can read how i made mistakes instead of undergoing it themselves

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"go to the Home Assistant discord first, guys... is very helpful..."

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lol

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that's a valuable lesson right there

winged knoll
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Helpful, for those that listen and want to learn

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We're somewhat more snarky with those who want spoon fed

tame wedge
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oh fuck that, i wanna be spoon fed.. who doesn't ?

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i'll spoon feed others too once i learn

winged knoll
tame wedge
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there's always some elitism by early adopters of technology

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seen it everywhere in new things

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no worries though. disruptive progressives always jump in with a fish hook and ruin it for the hipsters πŸ˜›

winged knoll
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Well, there's that too, but ... this is a "diy" platform, if you don't want to learn, why are you here?

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Oh, yeah, it's free

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You only really unlock the potential once you move beyond being spoon fed though, until then you'd be better off using Wink

tame wedge
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for sure! i just wanna get started with the basics first..

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but what's wink?

winged knoll
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Google wink home automation

tame wedge
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oh i see - it's like what a toddler's tablet is to the ipad.

winged knoll
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And you pay for it

tame wedge
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eh, it's for boomers

winged knoll
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Or those that want pointy-clicky-nothinky

tame wedge
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i mean.. boomers? πŸ˜›

winged knoll
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It's always fun when people assume how old somebody else is...

tame wedge
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Am reading this article for the differences between them

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which do you prefer and why?

winged knoll
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Both

tame wedge
winged knoll
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Zigbee is also low power, is cheaper, and is "fun" sometimes getting device working together

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Z-Wave costs more, but it all works together

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Oh, and Z-Wave devices are often more configurable too

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But, Zigbee is a fraction of the cost, and many devices are just as good as the Z-Wave versions

tame wedge
winged knoll
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It's on my Git πŸ˜‰

tame wedge
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git is tooooo technical for the beginner. no doubt i'll go through it once i run in to configuration problems though! πŸ˜›

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but i see what you mean

slim lagoon
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Wait... what?