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cold moon
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if you prefer new then n100 based mini pcs from amazon are good. otherwise you can save some $ on ebay but used markets differ wildly in different parts of the world

golden thorn
cold moon
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that's the same one a lot of people here use but with a .es link (i have the same model it's really nice for the cost)

tender tulip
cold moon
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maybe this link is better with the coupon

tender tulip
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isnt that complete overkill for HA? xD

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still cheaper than rpi definitely

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and better

cold moon
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i personally explain it like this: haos is fine and i like it, but diagnosing issues on haos installed bare metal on a device isnt great

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whether you then use it for more things like a backup pihole or adguard instance, or run a few LXCs or a dockerhost VM or whatever is up to you

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it also makes testing betas a lot simpler 😛 + backups

tender tulip
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i see

cold moon
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but if you want haos bare metal just installed on it, it will still work great

tender tulip
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i rather not. i wont benefit anything with that. even if i dont do anythin else at start, theres no harm in just getting the minipc rdy for it

cold moon
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yep

tender tulip
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what is the difference betwen N95 and N100? is the processor? im completelly unware of intel product line, specially NUC

cold moon
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yes

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n100 is suggested over n95

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you'll have to look up the spec differences but ultimately it's the igpu of the n100 that helps make it worth it for lots of tasks iirc

tender tulip
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got it

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can get it for this price

tender tulip
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it uses less power. nice

cold moon
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passmark doesnt really matter much tbh

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but this igpu can for example do multiple 4k transcodes for* plex

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or openvino for frigate use

tender tulip
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i do have a plex server

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on the HA host machine

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with a few hdd

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also the pc is recording all my cctv

cold moon
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regardless i like the idea of my server hardware separate from my smart home hardware

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if i lose one i do not want to lose both

tender tulip
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exactly what im afraid of

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its very late for me and i gotta work early tomorow

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thanks for all the tips and help

cold moon
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glhf

cold moon
tender tulip
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last thing

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different brand but same specs right?

cold moon
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no

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i trust beelink and we have a lot of users using them idk anything about that product tbh

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even if it's same mobo etc it might not be same quality control

tender tulip
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ok

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ill look for reviews before deciding

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i can get it for less than 150€

tacit burrow
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I have 2x lenovo, love them. Proxmox on each, can live migrate between hosts, backup/manage etc. Purrrrrfect, and like AU$120 each

cold moon
toxic granite
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So i am also in the process of googling this, but i thought i would also ask the question here to get an overview
With smart light switches, what is the purpose/need or no need for the neutral wire. What does this do for the purpose of a smart light switch seeing as there are ones out there that are neutral wire optional etc

cold moon
tender tulip
tender tulip
tender tulip
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but im starting to have an idea of what i want to do

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that promox ve looks quite nice. i was not aware of it

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ill add it to my collection of OS on my bootable pen

toxic granite
# cold moon some of them offer energy monitoring with neutral, others i think are just safer...

Hmm, ok. Interesting.
I have some of the Ikea TRÅDFRI bulbs arriving with me tomorrow which i think i can turn on and off using HA but i am concerned about the bulb socket still using energy if the physical wall switch is turned on still while the bulb is off if that makes sense so i was therefore wondering if it would be worth me swapping my dumb switch out for a smart light switch so i can power the lights on and off through the switch and not the bulbs themselves

cold moon
# tender tulip that promox ve looks quite nice. i was not aware of it

it's a really good solution. i just setup home assistant for a smart home client IRL with some led strips and an ecobee and smart blinds and a few other things and i literally bought a n100 beelink and installed proxmox and setup haos as a vm. so if there are issues i can remote into the proxmox box and fix the VM or blow it away and restore from backup and be done

tender tulip
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yup

cold moon
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you only get so much grace from your wife or family before they say fuck the smart home.. so dont waste it on things like light bulbs that dont work cuz someone flipped a switch

toxic granite
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Well i wanted the bulbs mainly for the aspect of being able to have the colour adjustment on them and the ability to dim them with HA too

I don't have to worry about a wife or kids. I have neither 😂

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Is there any safety implications i should be aware of with using smart bulbs that are turned on and off with a dumb switch?
I will probably not turn the bulbs on and off with HA and only do that with the dumb switch. Just use HA for the colour and dimming adjustment etc

cold moon
cold moon
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so you want them powered on else other nodes on the mesh could have a bad next hop router

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unless you buy sengled bulbs (dont) as these break zigbee spec and dont act as repeaters (bad color, bad transitions, generally not recommended)

toxic granite
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Ohhh ok then, i understand

cold moon
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you can get smart switches with smart bulb mode

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and if you buy the same protocol like zigbee switch + bulb you can bind them if supported (so that they talk directly to each other for a simple communication like up paddle = on and down paddle = off)

toxic granite
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Ok well this is what I have on order which should be with me tomorrow(Friday)
https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/tradfri-led-bulb-gu10-345-lumen-wireless-dimmable-colour-and-white-spectrum-10547491/

Seeing as it is going to be best that i do get a smart switch, I would like to get one that still has the physical on off aspect to it incase the HA server goes down or anything like that. But I have no idea what would be a good option

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For clarification. I am UK based as well

cold moon
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pretty low lumen man

toxic granite
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It's going in a bedr0om and there will be 3 of them

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Alot of people seemed to recomend them online i saw

cold moon
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yeah still worth a shot

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if you have the $$ to spend hue is really the best

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85 E for 3 of them

toxic granite
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The market is so flooded with so many options i just didnt know what to go for and these ones didn't seem that bad
I did see the HUE ones recomended too but yeah they are not exactly cheap

cold moon
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in this instance all the guys in #zigbee-archived will agree hue is just the best 🙂

toxic granite
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I'll keep that in mind for next time if i decide to try something else in future

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But in terms of smart light switch. Is there anything you could recomend there that fits the requiremts i mentioned?

cold moon
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not for uk sorry

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i think aqara zigbee is your best bet

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Based on the Zigbee 3.0 wireless communication protocol, the Aqara Smart Wall Switch H1 (With Neutral) is a smart switch that turns on and off the power of lights and other connected devices. After binding with an Aqara hub, it can implement remote control via the Aqara Home app, timed control, power detection, power statistics and other functio...

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aqara seems to be the go-to for decent uk switches

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you can save some $ on aliexpress direct

toxic granite
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Ooo ok. I actually just got the aqara blind motor as a birthday gift on wednesday too because they seemed like a good option for that compared to anything else out there 🤔

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It looks kinda big. idk if it will fit actually. I'll have to check the dims

cold moon
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it's just an example they have lots of options

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i'd personally stick to zigbee only not matter

toxic granite
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not matter?

cold moon
toxic granite
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I have the skyconnect one already

cold moon
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that works

toxic granite
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I'm not using it but also have the aqara one that came with the blind motor too

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Should i need to use something else instead

cold moon
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nah no aqara chyna hub man

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not gud

toxic granite
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That'll go in the box and into storage then 😂

cold moon
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cat of 9 tails or something

toxic granite
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Ok well maybe aqara is the way to go then for me. I'll have to check the depth of the backbox in the morning to see if the switch will actually fit the depth 😂
And try find the dims of the switch too to see if it fits, because i can't change what's already there 😂

toxic granite
toxic granite
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Sooo i just received my Ikea Tradfri bulbs....and I'm a little confused how it is i make them link to my HA.
I have the SkyConnect USB adapter. But i do not know how i am to make the bulbs pair with it

winged knoll
toxic granite
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Ah ok

humble parrot
versed jasper
round bone
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What dongles I will need to have wifi / Thread / Zigbee / Zwave / 433 MHz.

1x Zigbee + 1x Zwave + 1x 433 MHz + 1x Thread + wifi builded into server?

Do I have to have 4 of them to use this stuff?

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considering also Matter if it change anything ( I think not)

wild atlas
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There are combo dongles for zigbee and zwave if I recall correctly, but I've heard nothing but pain about using them, so I'd steer clear of combos, also I believe matter/thread are basically always together (does anything use thread and not matter, I've never really seen those as being separate entities)

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Matter runs over thread for the mesh

round bone
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as I understand Matter is application layer, so in theory hardware shouldn't matter

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ok so I need server with minimum 4x USB and probably more just in case.... 🙂

wild atlas
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Also make sure they are separate from one another physically when you put them all in place, otherwise the radios will interfere. (I use USB extension cables to put some distance between my dongles)

round bone
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yeah... it will turn into a monster

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Does it really have to be so messy about dongles and cables? 🙂
Does it make sense to buy router for all this stuff (like Zigbee -> LAN) instead of dongles?

slim lagoon
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I’d avoid getting a Zigbee “dongle” and go with a lan coordinator like the SMLight SMZB-06P7 or something.

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For WiFi, you don’t need a dongle for WiFi devices as they expose over your network. ZWave/433mhz you’ll need dongles for. Thread and Matter I would avoid for now.

round bone
slim lagoon
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No. The Zigbee coordinator (if you go with a lan one) gets an IP address. The Zigbee devices you choose then attach to the mesh internally. No IP address or anything like that.

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The entry point into HA is either using ZHA (Zigbee Home Automation, built into HA) or with Zigbee2MQTT (3rd party software that uses MQTT to communicate with HA)

round bone
slim lagoon
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Correct.

round bone
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Right now I use Zigbee2MQTT but I am preparing to make new server, but this time as critical device, so re-consider everything once more.

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I want to make it really stable

slim lagoon
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If that is what you want to achieve, I would highly recommend running Z2M and MQTT externally from HA. That way, if the HA server is down, you can still control your Zigbee devices.

round bone
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hmm how without HA?

slim lagoon
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However, with that said, ZHA has gotten really good lately (and with 2024.8, it’s been even better than before).

round bone
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I mean how I will trigger any action or automation then

slim lagoon
slim lagoon
round bone
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hmm I would rather make a new server fast then 🙂

slim lagoon
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The goal is that HA shouldn’t be down for very long. But, if it is, this gives you a way to still control your devices. Plus, there is also a concept of binding in Zigbee where you can bind a button, switch, remote, etc to a bulb or set of bulbs.

round bone
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I bet it will not work anyway as I want

slim lagoon
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Why not? That’s how many of us run now.

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My own setup is spread across 4 different “servers”.

round bone
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maybe I underestimate it then

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but on the other hand it is more points of failure, right?

slim lagoon
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Well, yes and no. You need to mitigate those. In my setup, I keep 2 spare servers (mini pcs). So, if something dies, I can quickly swap out the hardware, redeploy the apps that were running on it (either via backup or docker swarm scripts) and be up and running again in a few minutes.

round bone
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I wish HA have an option for backup server (mirror) 🙂

slim lagoon
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You can do that, but that’s kind of outside the scope of what HA is.

round bone
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Why outside of the scope?

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It is a feature to make it more stable

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for critical things

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Do you run HA alone (no docker) or in docker?

slim lagoon
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I run Container (docker).

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It’s out of scope because 95% of the home users will never think about doing redundancy like that.

round bone
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as long as they use it for color bulbs this is true 🙂

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I hope it will change in the future

slim lagoon
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It might, but there’s some limitations to it because of how HA works.

cold moon
rose fjord
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Anyone have experience with the Sonoff ZBMINI Extreme devices?

outer knotBOT
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Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

  1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
  2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
  3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
  4. What's the exact error message?
  5. When did it arise?
  6. What exactly don't you "get"?
  7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?
ashen sentinel
next ice
slim lagoon
olive jetty
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@marsh lichen Do you provide support for your hardware in here ?

vale canopy
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Does anyone know why the wifi p1 meter keeps connecting to the mesh acces point furthest away from it when in the deco app it's set to mesh disabled 2.4ghz only and locked to the ap closest to it

olive jetty
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I added it using the TI radio in ZHA but then its asking me for this but i don't know what to do here

marsh lichen
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Absolutely

olive jetty
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Im dumb

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Its working now 🙂 thanks

marsh lichen
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Okay great! Yeah any issue can find me and others who can help in #zigbee-archived or dm me.

olive jetty
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I will

static rune
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My inovelli switches arrive today!!!

cold moon
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yay

static rune
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Lmao uhhh… shop was wrong ups says they haven’t received it yet

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What matter/thread smart bulbs would pair well with the thread/matter switches?

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Or should I just wait for a while?

cold moon
patent jacinth
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HK-SENSOR-4IN1-A
by Sunricher won't pair

Running latest HAOS Server crashed so I did a clean install. Took opp to switch my sonoff zigbee 3 dongle to channel 25. Covers and switches all were found and added. However I cannot get these sensors to come back. ZHA finds them, begins configuring and then hangs. I've done full factory resets and no luck.

Any help would be awesome- not sure why I'm trying over and over to pair...

ornate comet
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So I noticed some things can cause interference with mmwave sensors. For instance there's a electronic drum set in my house and if place in front of the sensor (apollo msr2) it causes the values to fluctuate heavily. Curious as to why though and if there is anything to do about it other than moving the sensor or the object causing inteference.

distant dove
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Hey everyone, I am looking to replace my ecobee with a local only thermostat. I was thinking about building the kbx81 thermostat.

Has anyone built the kbx81 esphome thermostat?

Are there any good, local only thermostats worth installing?

wispy parrot
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Hi all im rilly new to home assistant I'm following all the tutorials and things I have .. WHISPER but to get it to start takes for ever then it crashes I go to log and im getting
INFO: SERVICE EXITED WITH CODE 256(BY SIGNAL 4)......
Any idea what it could be

cold moon
wispy parrot
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@slim lagoon I have no answer after 40 min so I'm asking in other places

slim lagoon
bronze marsh
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I'm looking into buying a dimmer switch for my room. I have already bought a dumb dimmer switch around a year ago, before I seriously considered smart things. From what I've seen, I concluded that it's impossible to use it along with a dimmer that goes in the electrical box, at least with the products I've seen.

So now I'm wondering if to get a 1 gang or 2 gang dimmer. There's only 1 ceiling light in my room and there probably never will be another one, so I'm wondering if it would be possible to only connect 1 of the buttons on a 2 gang rocker switch to control the light, and leave the other one to control some automation. I've seen people do it with a nondimmer, but is it possible with a dimmer?

native pilot
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Can you share what you have and what you're considering buying?

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specifically.

stable hamlet
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so I posted in energy but this may have been the more appropriate place to post my question (which I freely admit is amateur hour). i'm speccing out hardware for doing energy monitoring for ALL THE THINGS in my house. I'm looking for stuff that's home assistant compatible and that is as off-the-internet as possible (I'm an IT consultant, i'm pretty familiar with networking and those sorts of things so I don't think that'll be a problem, but I don't like or want cloud connected services if I can avoid them.) what are some good suggestions for smart plugs? I'm looking at kasa smart plug minis - are those any good?

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specifically, my vision is to stick a smart plug on everything that goes into a wall plug as well as on each server in my rack so I can better track my power utilization as well as circuit utilization (my place has a post-build finished basement where instead of running new circuits to the new rooms they created, they ran power from above so I find myself often in situations where i'm close to the rated power draw on particular circuits and i'm hoping that adding monitoring will assist me in identifying what's drawing how much power so i can better manage that issue, as well as manage my homelab server rack power a little better as well.

stable hamlet
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IF the kasa smart plugs are ok for most things (up to 15a), and don't require me to connect to some kind of cloud setup - I'm also on a hunt for 20a energy monitoring smart plugs as I would also like to stick some on some kitchen devices as well (coffee makers, microwave, etc. to measure power of my 20a circuits as well, but I don't see any 20a options on amazon just now (at least with my searches).

stable hamlet
cold moon
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the third reality zigbee plugs with energy monitoring are popular

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i personally use sonoff s31 wifi plugs flashed to esphome but you have to take them apart and solder onto tiny pads or use aligator clips. you can buy preflashed tho

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depending on use case you might like the zooz appliance plugs or the outdoor plugs (those are zwave)

stable hamlet
cold moon
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have you used esphome before?

stable hamlet
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I've used esp32's in other projects previously, but i've never heard of esphome - i'm super new to home automation

cold moon
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here's what they look like in home assistant

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plus some extra info

cold moon
stable hamlet
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yup, just as i expected

cold moon
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but esphome is also a docker container or addon if you run home assistant OS

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which lets you edit yaml or update your sensors or flash new ones OTA or serially via usb/webflasher

stable hamlet
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oh, I didn't realize that there'd be a server component involved - thought homeassistant would just read the raw data from the esp32 sensor

cold moon
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esphome was also acquired by nabu casa same parent company as home assistant which i guess now is all under the open home foundation umbrella? idk

cold moon
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the esphome dashboard is management or adding sensors

stable hamlet
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oh ok

cold moon
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just a way to control them

stable hamlet
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ooh, I get it, it's just a pretty gui that glues things together and helps flash

cold moon
stable hamlet
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I've been messing with meshtastic recently (basically an esp32+LoRa radio for text mode long range radio comms)

cold moon
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kewl

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i got a zwave long range device recently- pretty impressed w/ direct connection at 30+meters

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one guy here said he pressed a button on his 3 blocks away and it worked

stable hamlet
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I've never touched zigbee or zwave stuff.

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I do, however, have a whole bunch of govee temp/humdity sensors that come with a bluetooth-lr to wifi bridge that i'm also hoping to get set up in home assistant. it's still in the box though, haven't messed with it yet

cold moon
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which esphome devices can become

cold moon
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i buy / suggest the best products and suggest the protocols that go with them

fallen cedar
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Is there a recommended ZigBee smart plug

cold moon
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the third reality energy monitoring ones for usa

stable hamlet
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so I was thinking that I would just install home assistant on my nas (running truenas scale) - that would probably mean i'd have to buy bluetooth adapters (and/or zigbee, zwave adapters) for it. - which may prove even more difficult given that it's in a big metal rack fully enclosed server rack...

cold moon
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the hue smart plugs also work well but are expensive and do not have energy monitoring

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but they do shut themselves off if they get too hot for a while

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and still work after lol (ask me how i know)

cold moon
fallen cedar
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I'm probably going to just use it on a low amperage lava lamp lol

stable hamlet
cold moon
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I use a PoE zigbee coordinator that controls my zigbee mesh and instead of a bluetooth dongle on my hass box i have esp32 acting as BLE proxies

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whatever proxy is closest auto transmits

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active or passive ble

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that's my zigbee coordinator^

fallen cedar
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Are the ones without power monitoring trash?

stable hamlet
cold moon
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ideally you use esp32 ethernet devices for ble proxies but you dont have to

fallen cedar
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I feel like I don't need power monitoring since my biggest power using devices are on high amperage outlets anyways

stable hamlet
fallen cedar
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High voltage I mean

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Not amperage

cold moon
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this is a zigbee coordinator for zigbee devices. it just happens to be using an esp32

stable hamlet
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i'm trying to figure out how the zigbee coordinator talks to HA

cold moon
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websocket

stable hamlet
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oh, over wifi or ethernet (doesn't matter)

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got it

stable hamlet
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i was just trying to figure out how zigbee gets to your ha instance if not wifi bridge.

cold moon
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@marsh lichen why no discord embed image ❤️ SEO++

fallen cedar
cold moon
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save that for twitch chat

marsh lichen
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Spread waaaaay to thin for that

stable hamlet
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oof, just read the warning on esphome's 3 active connection limitation... not sure if that'll work for my case then

stable hamlet
cold moon
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most connections are passive and every 5-10minutes

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and that's per proxy so if you had multiple it would matter even less

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it's not really a concern

stable hamlet
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i see there is a hardware category on the hass forum, but is there a list of specific recommended hardware that works well with hass? i.e. hardware that has integrations that work without work and this just go?

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everything i'm seeing works the other way where you're like "does xyz support hass" and then you check the forum and "yes, it works, here's how you do it" - I just want a list of known things that work good

slim lagoon
# stable hamlet everything i'm seeing works the other way where you're like "does xyz support ha...

It’s been attempted many times, but no real list exists. There are sites like https://zigbee.blakadder.com/ and https://zigbee2mqtt.io for Zigbee devices, but for other things, not really.

Zigbee Device Compatibility Repository

Database of Zigbee devices compatible with ZHA, Tasmota, Zigbee2MQTT, deCONZ, ZiGate and ioBroker

cold moon
errant prairie
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Are wall panels pre installed with android compatible with fully kiosk?

So i’ve seen some videos wherein they flash an NS Panel pro with android and install the fully kiosk app using adb commands.

I downloaded the fully kiosk apk from the browser in my android phone, and it seems to be doing everything I want it to. mainly, the screen timeout, and screen wakeup on motion detection feature.

I see some products in alibaba using the same hardware of the NS Panel Pro, but already pre installed with android (v 8.1, v 11). I was wondering if i could just buy these, download the fully kiosk apk from the browser, and install it. this seems like a much simpler approach compared to doing the adb stuff, which I don’t know much about.

I don’t see any tutorials that is using this approach, is this even possible, or are there any drawbacks to this approach?

cold moon
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tag me with whatever you figure out 😛

stable hamlet
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ok, how about this, next year, I'm planning on buying one or more minisplit heat pumps for my place, and i'm looking for something that's good and compatible with home assistant...?

wild atlas
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I did get it approved for the made for esphome tag too

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(also yeah I plan on doing a PR to add it at some point)

frosty field
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Hello,
Looking for recommendations on a push-button wired light switch, that is flashable with Tasmota, and can be "triggered" by mqtt/home assistant. I say "wired", as in not battery powered, and should physically cut/restore power to the bulb when pressed or triggered.

Multiple buttons on a panel are fine. A dimmer circuit is fine. Fancy bells & whistles, such as a touchscreen is not fine (I don't want another NS panel).

wild atlas
frosty field
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Looks good at first glance. Will check details momentarily.

wild atlas
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I have some of their smart plugs and am pretty happy with them, haven't used the smart switches though

pulsar narwhal
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Hi guys. I want to switch a pump on/off with a relay. However it is powered through some kind of breaker (residual current?) This breaker is always off when power is restored (i need to press RESET) so I cannot put a relay before it.
Would it work with a relay after the breaker?

sharp cloud
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Afternoon. I recently snagged a few of the Everthing Presence Lite and have setup a couple. However, they seem to continuously flag as occupied even when nobody is present in the room. I have one in my office attached to the wall and aimed right where my office desk chair is. while I do have dogs, even when they aren't present in the room it still flags. I'm assuming i've got some extra calibration I need to do, but I'm having some difficulty in understanding how I need to fine-tune it. I have updated them to the latest firmware

cold moon
glacial oracle
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generally relays dont enjoy switching high currents, especially when they are cheapish

left hound
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looking for an outdoor outlet energy monitor. doesn't need to be switched since it's always on, just want to monitor the power usage. prefer wifi.

patent river
thorny holly
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Anyone have a good humidifier? Evaporative or ultrasonic, wifi or zigbee

vestal lake
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Hey guys! I'm trying to install the aqara fp2 but looks like I need to put it right on the corner so it will detect the whole room. anyone know where there is some kind of adapter/mount for the aqara for corners?

wary willow
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For those of you with smart irrigation controllers, any recommendations on brand? I'm seeing a lot of Rachio and OpenSprinkler suggestions. Rachio seems a bit more polished but I'm open to other suggestions as well.

wanton root
fallen cedar
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Third reality door sensor good? Is there anything else cheap that's recommended

winged knoll
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For #zigbee-archived recommendations see that channel - I'm a fan of the Aqara E1/T1 sensors

solar basin
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i need a bed sensor that can connect with home assistant but i dont want any diy versions because if i dont make it good theire is a change my bed will go in flames with me in it.

Online i cant find anything... can someone help

native pilot
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You definitely want a pressure mat? Asking because I know some people will place a mmWave sensor under the bed pointing UP to detect bed presense.

solar basin
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i dont care whats under theire but it needs to detect if im in bed for my sleep routine and my wake up routine

native pilot
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Ok, you could also use your phone as a sensor, and use either charging/not charging (or focus states also) as the triggers for those routines. No new sensors required.

solar basin
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yeah but i have an automation for my phone charger, if my battery is above 80 the phone charger will stop charging so than in the middle of the night my wake up routine will start..

native pilot
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Do you need the wake up routine to start before your actual alarm goes off?

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because you can use your phone alarm as a trigger too

solar basin
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on some days like sundays i dont have an alarm clock

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but still need my morning routine

native pilot
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ok. I have that same issue, I made a voice prompt to fire the same wakeup automation if I wake up on a day without an alarm set.

mmwave: https://apolloautomation.com/products/msr-2 you'd want to make sure to have a time condition for the automations (both the bedtime and the wakeup condition) as well.

I think the sleep mat from Withings is supported https://www.withings.com/us/en/sleep (but research before buying it!)

solar basin
#

the sleep mat from withings is exactly what i was searching for but $130 is a bit to mutch, how does the mmwave sensor work? never heard abt that

native pilot
#

Paging @slim lagoon …

winged knoll
slim lagoon
native pilot
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Can you talk to Mathijas about how you use mmWave for bed presence?

polar mauve
#

I am ALMOST done migrating from SmartThings to HA. The last piece is moving my Philips Hue Lightstrip Plus to HA. Does anyone here have experience doing so? I'm curious if you moved just the lightstrips or if you are connecting to the Hue hub. And why/why not.

native pilot
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Most people drop the hub and use a zigbee coordinator

polar mauve
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Sounds good - thx

thorny holly
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Anyone have a good humidifier?

native pilot
#

standalone or tied into the HVAC system?

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for standalone, I'd just get a non-smart one and control it with a smart outlet

thorny holly
tropic lichen
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Hi folks - I currently live in an apartment, and cannot replace any light switches. Does anyone know of a decent 'robot' that can attach to existing rocker switches? Something like the SwitchBot Bot?

versed jasper
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@cold moon you're a genius

cold moon
stable hamlet
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also, it just so happens 12 of them came in today so I can experiment.

wanton root
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Anyone has experience with aqara z1 smart switches? Can I use it as a 2 way switch? I.e, just one connected to light, 2nd one just powered up but will act as a switch for first switch

winged knoll
static rune
#

LETS GOOO

smoky moth
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Hi guys, what's the easiest way to automate lights, blinds with a wired system. KNX is to expensive, I mean something like Shelly pro

glacial oracle
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you kinda are out of luck on wired solutions if you want inexpensive

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If I recall homematic has some gear that can be used wired but I haven't seen that float around here that often

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Shelly itself is somewhat not really useful in that regard as you would need to pull a ton of additional wiring to control lights from a centralized point

native pilot
gloomy spoke
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what price, quality of life

smoky moth
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Then what if I run cat6 cables to my central boxes and have a rail with say a Shelley pro2 in those central boxes. All copper wiring is already there.

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Btw, its a complete renovation so I don't mind some extra wiring as long as it doesn't break the bank

static rune
green wagon
# static rune LETS GOOO

The Inovelli switches are really cool from a design perspective. For anyone else considering them though, they are extremely unreliable with smart bulbs when installed without a neutral wire, even with 3+ neutral bypasses

broken flower
green wagon
broken flower
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Wired hardware

cold moon
broken flower
cold moon
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It’s all 24v or lower tho

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It’s used mostly by guys doing big whole home lighting projects like year round LEDs outside house

cold moon
broken flower
# cold moon It’s all 24v or lower tho

AFAIK current makes the heat, not voltage.
Don't get me wrong, it might be a perfectly fine device. It's just my lack of knowledge about electronics (and lack of time) that leads me towards "professional" devices instead of DIY.

vocal lava
#

Is there a cheaper alternative to this? Looking for a smart plug that doesnt require a hub, basically need something to power off a DAS that doesnt have a remote power options. The plan (in theory) is to have a HA instance running on my redundant network app machine that will just controll these outlets when HA gets a notification from NUT. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0861NX6H2

cold moon
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Inrush current during initial boot might be high for a server so you might need to look out for that

#

A zooz zwave smart plug for appliances is prob what I’d use

vocal lava
vocal lava
cold moon
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Don’t box yourself in buy the products that make the most sense

wild atlas
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Lol it'll power down your disk shelf when the Internet goes down too!

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They're fully locally controlled, no clouds, no forced app installs to your phone, no silliness

vocal lava
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im looking at a tubez for my main HA implementation, issue is that will be hot down along with the main server.

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and they are a bit pricey to have 2 of them

slim lagoon
vocal lava
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shut*

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still havent had coffee yet lol

slim lagoon
#

Oh. But why? A lan coordinator runs outside of the server (unless you are talking about like "powered down").

vocal lava
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so the main reason for all this is I am trying to shut down as much as I can when the power goes out, to keep the ups running longer

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main server is a dual xeon 24 bay which draws a bunch of power so which will be running my HA, then I will have a second ssf that is running dredndancies for network applications and the HA to shut down the disk shelves

slim lagoon
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Ahhhh gotcha. Did you get a POE coordinator from Tube or a USB powered one? I can't see shutting down the coordinator saving you much in terms of power, tbh.

vocal lava
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Also can 2 instances of HA run the same coordinator?

slim lagoon
vocal lava
slim lagoon
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Also... I wouldn't put the coordinator near or in the rack. LOTS of interference there. If you could put it somewhere central in the house, you'll have MUCH better results.

vocal lava
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It's happened 4 times in the last 3 months, and every time it does it is a royal pain the fix.

slim lagoon
#

Ooooffff yeah, that SUCKS.

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Time to go solar 😉

vocal lava
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Live in the Midwest and get some nasty storms that take out power lines at least a few times every summer.

slim lagoon
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Gotcha. Yeah, now it all makes sense. Not the first time I've heard that.

vocal lava
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The idea is the keep the network active as long as possible running on a 35w sff pc that hosts the dhcp, nginx, ect

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So it will be just that and the network stack running, and since the sff will be the nut coordinator it can power it all back on once the power comes back

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Otherwise it's at least an hour from me to get it all working again.

wild atlas
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Dang that's a high time to reboot, I get a few power outages every year that are long enough to run my ups's dry and my stack takes maybe 10-20 minutes to come back up, and can do so mostly automatically when power is back on

rustic grotto
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i want to install a smart wall switch integrated on the circuit. my current ligts only have 2 cables. there are live neutral and ground passing behind but just passing. also on other switch i want to replace the existing switch for smart bulb instead. so i dont want it to actually turn the light off, what you suggest? i was thinking about a no neutral for the one so i dont have to mess with the cabling, for the other i have already a smart switch and i was thinking about just covering the switch and just using the normal one. but i would like an option where i can replace the existing switch and operating it only smartly (but be able to manual turn it off incase it stuck and i need to restart it)

vocal lava
dusky dock
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Good Morning, I am looking for a min. 12“ tablet for using home assistant. I should be as cheap as possible. Someone could recommend anything ? Any china tablet or something ?

keen flame
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I got a Zigbee Light Switch (tuya) and I want to integrate it into HA. When the switch is wired up, it goes into "Not connected ot the network" state, which makes sense. When I search for Zigbee devices in HA, though, it doesn't show up. The instructions say to buy and add a Tuya zigbee gateway, but I just uze a Sonoff zigbee adapter plugged into the HA box's USB. Trying to add the device through the Tuya app also says to first connect a Tuya zigbee gateway, put it into pairing mode, and then connect the light swtich. Can't really do that with the USB adapater though, I don't think. I'm not really sure what to do next. Everything else Zigbee has been pretty plug-and-play in HA.

glacial oracle
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Did you put the switch into pairing mode

winged knoll
keen flame
royal aspen
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Is there anybody able to give me a hand on duckdns and port forwarding?

#

I do have my duckdns setup as per tutorial

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I’m just not able to set the portforwarding on my UniFi network

#

The internal ip address is: 192.168.1.96 (static)

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I did forward port 443 to 443 and 8123 to 443

royal aspen
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Please 🙂

sharp yoke
#

hey folks, any experience/opinions on the Sonoff SNZB-02 and SNZB-02P temp/humdity sensors with HA?

slim lagoon
tough frost
#

Hey everyone!

Garage door opener recommendations? I have a bd garage door. I know you can easily do it with esp home but I was hoping to get a nice package or even better a ZigBee controller.

I have a ZigBee network setup already so wouldn't mind having it be local on ZigBee.

bronze terrace
#

Hi. Anybody managed to get a schematic for the POWR320D PCB?

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Mine is dead and would like to know the reason.

winged knoll
left raft
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What do people use today to make dumb blinds smart? I have 2in cordless faux blinds from HD and I was thinking switch bot but every video I see is with the old style that has a flat rail which you can't even find anymore.

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Not to mention i heard of reliabily and calibration issues with that brand. Not ruling it out or anything just wondering

vestal lake
wanton root
#

There are some local libraries that prints for you. 🙂

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I've done it before for a minimal charge

vestal lake
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Israel

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3d printers in libraries??

wanton root
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There should be 3d printing services within the area. 😛

vestal lake
#

thats amazing

wanton root
vestal lake
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yeah I can probably find something like that here but that will be a private person and it will be expansive

#

how hard is it to make some 3d model?

wanton root
#

I believe they use it to train their people in using 3d printrrs

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It is already available

vestal lake
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Thanks!

#

but I have many ideas that I need printer for

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so I'm interested

#

how are it is

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maybe I should really but a small printer

wanton root
#

If it is too expensive... Let me share a Chinese printing service

jagged heron
#

I have been using Amazon Echo Dots for notifications and they suddenly stopped working. In the Entities list HA says: "This entity is no longer being provided by the alexa_media integration. If the entity is no longer in use, delete it in settings."
Are Amazon Echos no longer supported?
How do I fix this?

wanton root
vestal lake
#

its like alibaba for 3d prints?

#

Thanks! @wanton root

wanton root
#

Now they seem like a one stop center for everything too including cnc

vestal lake
#

looks amazing 😮

wanton root
#

I know that file exists because I'm printing it too for my own setup.

#

Have fun! Hehehe

vestal lake
#

it ships well?

wanton root
#

Pcbway? Yes

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I've never had issues with them

#

They ship DHL for large packages.

#

Your quote includes shipping options

vestal lake
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because I want to print a case which is also a mount for 14" screen

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which will probably be easy to break if not shipped very well

wanton root
#

They do bubble wrap too

vestal lake
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since the middle is hollow

wanton root
#

And if it comes broken, they would replace

vestal lake
#

oh thats good

wanton root
#

I had them replaced a bunch of PCBs too

vestal lake
#

you know roughfly the prices?

#

like how much for that aqara mount?

wanton root
#

Nope, I'm using my local 3d printer service

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=p

vestal lake
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oh 😛

wanton root
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Btw! There are streams where they promote pcbway, and U can get a discount code.

vestal lake
#

can I tell you a secret?

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I dont know what pcbway means

wanton root
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https://youtu.be/pMEaQmn1iP4?si=O9pJcJyi_bouRab9

This is one of them. Just check if there are codes within

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vestal lake
#

ohh

native pilot
#

for the thirdreality hardware-- do people typically buy that direct from them? Or a different source? The lack of CC checkout option is throwing me.

wanton root
sand lodge
#

Moving my question here, from #add-ons-archived .

What is the best and most recommended way to host HA on an Intel based mini PC, if I want to have

  • my own full Linux (Debian) that I can mess with
  • my own Docker containers
  • HA add-ons managed via the HA GUI?

Currently I'm having Supervised on Debian.

winged knoll
#

Proxmox

golden thorn
sand lodge
winged knoll
#

Well, yes but no

#

Proxmox replaces the OS

golden thorn
#

Technically you can install PVE on top of an existing debian install. I wouldn't dare doing that without being able to connect a monitor and keyboard though.

round bone
#

I am looking solution for control stair lighting fixtures, BUT I want to keep it classic with standard motion detector. I just want to add extra option to turn them on / off.

In other words I want to have option to:

  1. on (smart home)
  2. motion detection + dark detection using standard motion detectors (no smart home)
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side question: can you recommend white stair lighting fixtures which looks very good?

native pilot
#

What's your definition of "white stair lighting fixtures"

round bone
#

lights on stairs

#

Is it wrong english name?

#

I have used translator for this one 🙂

native pilot
#

No, I know what a lighting fixture is. I wasn't sure if you wanted spot lights, strip lights etc

#

why don't you want option 2 to be controlled by home assistant?

round bone
#

I want it to always work, even if HA is down

native pilot
#

Does your HA go down a lot?

round bone
#

I mean my purpose is to set it reasonable over have fun 🙂

round bone
#

it works good without HA

#

I just want to add option "always on". I think this can be done by charger which can be controled by HA (but don't have to)

native pilot
#

I have stair lighting, but everything is controlled by home assistant. I think it will likely be HARDER to have some things controlled outside of HA and some things controlled inside HA in this case.

round bone
#

I have never been installing this, but I think it should be possible to connected cables in that way: motion detector (no smart) -> charger with contoller (smart) -> light

native pilot
#

I guess it depends on what you have then, which you haven't specified. I use WLED integrated to home assistant. I have a switch to turn the lights on solid and time of flight (equivalent to motion, but not really, in your case) sensors to turn them on and off automatically with a HA automation.

round bone
#

I have only holes in wall right now 🙂

native pilot
#

Ok

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so if you get lights that can be turned on and off with HA, you can get a motion sensor to automatically turn on and off the lights with home assistant. And it's super trivial to ADD automatic on off by adding two sensors to home assistant if the basic on off function is supported by the lights you choose. Insisting that somethings work via HA and somethings don't is honestly more complicated.

round bone
#

I see on YT there are controllers which let set time of lighting etc. So to be precise motion detector is connected to controller. Controller get power from charger. Controller turn on / off lights.

I need controller which can be integrated with HA. At least how I understand this.

In that way even if I will blow up my HA everything will work perfect. With HA I will just get more control.

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or sell house and buyer will be not technical 🙂

cold moon
#

You talking about wled or esphome with a pir sensor and led strip attached?

#

Bad solution

#

You’ll be better off going all zigbee and binding switch to lights and maybe motion sensor too but then no overrides

#

But you’re putting yourself in this box lol

round bone
#

I can be wrong, but my best understanding is I just need controller for HA and nothing more to make it work with and without HA. It will give me just more control with HA, but can use without HA like normal classic not smart solution.

#

at least this is for sure technically possible. I don't know if / who produce such controllers 🙂

#

companies produce such controllers for sure for manual settings

#

just need extra "turn on constantly" with HA

#

BTW what sensor detector, do you use for staircase light? (with HA)

native pilot
#

I made a time of flight sensor for the top of my stairs (which works like a laser trip wire) and an Aqara FP2 for the bottom of my stairs + the rest of the room. You could use any zigbee motion sensor (the Aqara P1 as an example) for this though, one at the top and one at the bottom.

#

You either need to control the lights entirely outside of HA or entirely in. Half in half out will not work or will take pretty significant effort to achieve.

round bone
#

no time to make my own custom toy 🙂

#

Aqara P2
How long it keep batteries? half a year?

native pilot
#

depends on your zigbee network.

#

6m to a year is reasonable

round bone
native pilot
#

if your battery device is in a weak zigbee network, it will have to "work harder" to communicate with the network. The extra "work" uses more battery power.

round bone
#

By "harder" do you mean Zigbee adapt power to send data by network? So if receiver is closer, then can save some power?

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or do you mean have to send data a few times, because receiver didn't get it or send confirmation?

#

I didn't hear about both of this so far

native pilot
#
drowsy scroll
#

Success getting frigate working with the M2 coral tpu on the beelink eq13 with n100 cpu

cold moon
#

E key?

drowsy scroll
#

No the other one

#

Coral b&m

#

The coral e key might fit into the wifi slot, but not 100% sure

#

But the Wi-Fi slot is under the M2 nvme, might be a heat issue

mortal mica
#

i have a dumb question, well lots but only 1 this time. If I want to connect my govee thermometers to HA green and I have a govee gateway will I need a usb ble dongle for the HA?

winged knoll
#

Using what integration?

slim halo
#

Hey ! Looking to upgrade my current setup (HAOS on RPi3B+ and SD card).
What's the best SSD setup (not the most expensive but value for money) for an RPi (4 or 5) with HAOS ?
Thanks !

winged knoll
#

Country?

slim halo
outer knotBOT
#

@slim halo When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

winged knoll
#

frankly by the time you've bought a Pi5, NVMe hat, and drive, you're better off with a second hand mini PC

winged knoll
#

Not much more - I ran HA on an old i5 laptop with a peak draw of 10W for long enough

#

Pi4 peaks about 8W (+ powered hub and SSD)

slim halo
winged knoll
#

Pi4 scores a cpumark about 900, as long as you're above that (ideally 2K and up) you'll be fine

slim halo
winged knoll
#

2 GB really

#

More is good

mortal mica
winged knoll
#

They could help over there

mortal mica
#

oh ok thank you

native pilot
#

Zooz, inovelli

wheat jacinth
#

I use Zooz ZEN37 for this

native pilot
#

Zooz

wheat jacinth
#

That's the benefit of HA. All of the above++ work

native pilot
#

Inovelli also makes matter switches

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(It’s easier to recommend something if the person asking shares their parameters for the recommendation 😉)

#

If you don’t have anything go zigbee or zwave. Thread and matter absolutely suck right now

glacial oracle
#

It's a bit like buying into a possible doa protocol with the maturing that likely will happen

native pilot
#

So for the third time: zooz

cold moon
native pilot
glacial oracle
#

It is very possible that current hardware will not be compatible with future revisions

native pilot
#

A lot of people think that.

glacial oracle
native pilot
#

You’ll stream your apartment and you’ll like it

glacial oracle
#

But it's a cam rip

cold moon
#

I haven’t tried vr yet but I’m glad the metaverse tanked

glacial oracle
#

I bought a vr headset for half-life

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Haven't used it since

cold moon
#

The index? Aren’t those like 500+?

#

I do this with a zooz zen32 and double tap one button for sleep routine and another for wake routine

glacial oracle
cold moon
#

Jail

glacial oracle
#

Its good enough but it requiring a Displayport input is kinda trash

native pilot
#

When you log on does it say “you just got zucked!”

glacial oracle
#

All your viewed content is belonging to us

wheat jacinth
#

Sucker-berged?

round bone
#

What do you use to control stair lighting fixtures ? turn on / off.

#

the same for led strip?

native pilot
#

As we covered yesterday, it depends on the fixture.

If the fixture is controlled by a light switch, you use a smart light switch. Which one depends on if you're using zwave, zigbee, matter.

LED strips that interact with home assistant have a controller, you integrate the controller to HA. If you go open source, you can use WLED and DIY it. If you want something off the shelf, look at zigbee LED strips.

Sensors that can trigger essentially ANYTHING in HA.
#hardware-archived message

cold moon
tropic dune
#

Hi guys, is there a way I can integrate a LAVNA LP40 padlock with home assistant? It uses bluetooth on tuya.

cold moon
#

runs away

uncut spire
#

at sonoff water valve its closing itself with this event
Su Arıtma Vana Checkin event was fired

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anyone know why??

raw grotto
#

Do doorbells really typically not let you play tts/audio on them via media_player? Why do they seem so locked down?

drowsy scroll
drowsy scroll
drowsy scroll
#

I completely support this move, I'd rather have china do zero software dev and just use open source code...

raw grotto
#

I'm not sure I'll have to look it up

eternal oriole
#

Any recommendations for stealthy outdoor motion sensors?
Also, it's possible to control tuya light with zigbee switch/sensor, right? I can just link them in HA?

slim lagoon
eternal oriole
#

Cheers!

robust silo
#

is it a good idea to connect a zigbee stick (via a 3ft extension able) directly to raspberry pi, or should plug it into The powered USB hub , which is used to connect to the SSD to boot the HAOS?

finite narwhal
#

I'm buying a house next week, and I'm trying to figure out what kind of smart hardware I'm going to get. Where I'm struggling is a ceiling fan. I need to buy and install one in the master bedroom (assuming that the ceiling is even wired for one). There's only a single switch on the wall, so I figure that an actual fan controller is out of the question (I don't even know for sure if there is a neutral wire in the walls).

I'm looking for something I can use with z wave to remotely control the fan speed, maybe also the lights (I can use smart bulbs if I need to). But I'm really struggling to find anything for the fan.

Anyone have any ideas?

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I'll go with a wifi model fan if I have to - just need the names of some supported brands

cold moon
#

Zwave fan speed controllers are pretty slim pickings the recommended method lately is an inovelli zigbee switch and canopy module inside the fan junction box in ceiling

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That’ll give you light and fan with speed controls and a fancy switch for multi tap etc

finite narwhal
#

Thanks, I'll look into it

finite narwhal
# cold moon Zwave fan speed controllers are pretty slim pickings the recommended method late...
Inovelli

It's back and better than ever. Inovelli's Fan/Light Canopy Module! This little module is 33% smaller than it's predecessor and is designed to fit perfectly in your fans canopy with room to spare. Enjoy individual control of your fan speed and light dim level from your favorite smart home app (see hub compatibility for

modern oak
#

I grabbed a couple of Tapo C100 cameras super cheap and was wondering if someone has worked out custom firmware for them or maybe cloudless activation/?

modern oak
#

Been doing a fair amount of research, looks like these devices have been opened for root access, and are based on the Ingenic T31 apparently the same as the Wyze V3. Would be super surprised if they can't be modded somehow

cold moon
drowsy scroll
modern oak
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I have the case cracked

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Ingenic T31 with an SPI flash

drowsy scroll
#

If you can't figure anything out there, open it up, what is the mcu

tender tulip
#

hey! not sure if im in the right channel but here it goes. i recently moved to proxmox running on a mini pc. i was running HAOS in a vm in windows. So far so good but something bothers me. the proxmox dashboard show a lot of ram being used by HAOS VM but Ha is only using a little. is this normal?

drowsy scroll
#

Thingio or something like that, just for ingenic cams

tender tulip
drowsy scroll
#

Be prepared to hook up a console. I prefer the ch340 USB to ttl adapters because most non Chinese ones are fake and blacklisted in windows

modern oak
#

for the price I think this will be good to tinker with. Would be nice if I can contribute support

drowsy scroll
#

There are a lot of t31 supported on openipc

#

I feel like I just flashed one of those recently

modern oak
#

Thank you for the pointers

cold moon
tender tulip
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its fine. im assuming the OS is reserving the ram. i set the ram to 4gb, recommended is 4-6. but i think ill reduce to 3gb because im already using 80% of ram of the pc and i still have some containers to turn on. will it be ok?

jaunty onyx
#

I've been trying to google this and I've been struggling to find a stasifactory answer or even be sure I'm searching for the right thing

What's the best way to set up two switches with 1 light?
I'm currently having all my lighting circuits rewired. In order to not have this be 100% reliant on HA when I move out the electricians are going to put 2 switches in for the same stairwell light, however I still want to set them up to work with HA

I was thinking of setting up a simple zigbee switch thing behind the wall switch, but I'm unsure how I should be doing this
Should I have 2 smart switches in each place?
Hard bypass one of the other switches to make sure it's always on?

Is this the right channel or is this more for the computer hardware side of HA?

glacial oracle
#

the included wiring diagrams usually show such multi way setups

glacial oracle
#

in general you just plug in the relay into the switching cirquit similar to how you would with a load (just that it goes to the switched inputs instead)

golden thorn
# tender tulip hey! not sure if im in the right channel but here it goes. i recently moved to p...

#installation-archived message
#1153192446566600714 message
https://www.linuxatemyram.com/
Basically the VM uses the available memory for cache and PVE does not know what the VM does with it in this case so it shows it as used because it is. Whether for cache or other things it cannot tell.

From the PVE side you can think of it like money someone takes from you. Whether they spend all of it or not you're still out of X amount. You know how much you're out but not where it has gone.

glacial oracle
#

alternative ways may use momentary switches to trigger a relay which then turns on/off the lights, which you generally can replace with a smart relay

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this is generally a much nicer alternative

cold moon
finite narwhal
native pilot
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Unsure. I removed the original rf receiver.

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You might not have space for both honestly

patent river
# jaunty onyx I've been trying to google this and I've been struggling to find a stasifactory ...

I added a Shelly (1 Mini Gen3: https://www.shelly.com/en/products/shop/shelly-1-mini-gen-3/) to the 2-way light switch circuit for the lights between our house and garage.
Output from the switches goes to the input of the Shelly, everything still works quite transparently with either switch or the electronic control from HA.
The Shelly has a specific mode for this they call "Edge", where the input isn't treated as specifically on/off, but rather every time the input changes the output changes.
Can DM you a wiring diagram of how I wired it in.

finite narwhal
jaunty onyx
tender tulip
jaunty onyx
#

Trying to read into stuff. Is there anything special about this mode I saw on a sonoff product page? I'm trying to see if I can get a zigbee siwtch that I could set up to work like this

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I'd really like zigbee or at least just a single switch, as I don't want stuff to rely on my wifi network

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Just looking at generic aliexpress switches right now and I don't quite understand what I'm looking at. I see that one has 2 terminals for the light then a seperate 2 terminals for the switches, however looking at this I assume that it wouldn't be possible to do something like that here?

patent river
#

So much of this depends on how your 2-way switches are wired now. There are easily half a dozen (all valid) different ways to do it, depending on which end(s) have the incoming phase, and where the neutral is or isn't

jaunty onyx
#

Oh they aren't wired in yet. I'd just like it so that however I wire it in, it wouldn't be impossible to then remove this module and have it work normally

patent river
#

That generic one looks much the same as the Shelly though; output from switch goes to the "S1" terminal, output to lights from the "L1"

#

If you ever needed to remove it in future, you'd just take the smart switch out and join those wires together

jaunty onyx
#

Gotchaa. I'm going to ask about it, though I'm unsure exactly how to explain to them about how to wire it

#

These are some of the switches I already have. Annoyingly the product page doesn't have a wiring diagram so I'm unsure how to approach this

patent river
#

The biggest complication is which end the power goes into the 2-way switch from.
One design (which you could call "double ended") has the power coming in at one end -> switch -> switch -> out to the lights at the other end. The complication in that design is you possibly don't end up with a permanent phase at the 2nd switch, so no power to run the smart relay.
That Sonoff diagram is "single ended" (as my switches are, if you look at the diagram I sent you), where the 2nd switch only connects to the 1st switch.
Both are easy to convert back to "dumb" switching, but only one lends itself to being converted to smart.

#

The Sonoff is a bit different that both ends of the 2-way switch are wired to the Sonoff. For the Shelly (and that generic one), you're just putting the normal mains voltage through the switches.

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And your other generic one there looks to be the same. So you go S1->switch->switch->S2. L-out/N-out to the bulbs. L-in/N-in to the mains

jaunty onyx
#

Ohhh that sounds pretty doable then? No need for special modes?
But in turn that means I require a neutral wire there

native pilot
#

pretty sure neutral is code now

jaunty onyx
#

I'm based in the UK myself, not sure if it is here
I think when they were showing me the switch it was just two wires? I'm not sure

native pilot
#

that's usually true, then there is (without smart crap present) a bundle of wires tied together in the back of the box

#

those are your neutrals

#

but yeah, not sure about UK. You should be able to ask your electrician though...

jaunty onyx
#

Just checked. There's also fuck all space behind the switch so I don't think I can fit a simple module like this

#

They put in the 30something mm back boxes everywehre they could but this might be one of the 20mm ones not sure

patent river
#

Sucks when that happens. I was lucky that the cables for mine went straight down, so I just put a junction box under the floor directly under the switch and installed the relay there

jaunty onyx
#

Oh!!

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Of course that makes sense!

#

If it's two buttons for the light... They both just go to the light
Can I just put this smart switch next to the light fixture itself?

#

And connect the light wires there?

patent river
#

Again that depends greatly on the wiring

#

Usually not, because you won't have a permanent power source there

#

Do you know what's behind the junction box you have there?

jaunty onyx
#

Ah, if I could get permanent power there, would that be a good alternative? Or should I focus on the switches themselves?

jaunty onyx
#

Yeah that's the box exactly

patent river
jaunty onyx
#

Oh uhh this specific wall I think we're very very tight for space

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I can figure something out. Maybe even get a spacer thing to have it stick out

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But I'm more worried about the wiring side

patent river
#

I've had to use spacer rings in a couple of places in my house. I replaced some of the old junk (TV antenna sockets) with Ethernet, but had to add the spacer to get enough depth

jaunty onyx
#

Ahh yeah I wasn't aware they existed before, but it makes sense yeah

jaunty onyx
frosty field
#

Anyone know of a non-cloud thermostat that has an integration supported by HA? Preferably without using HACS.

native pilot
frosty field
#

Zigbee, Matter, WiFi.

#

Prefer WiFi for this though.

native pilot
#

So you can definitely do this with the ecobee, you can drop it off the internet as soon as setup is complete. Then you can connect it to HA completely locally as well (albeit with the apple home bridge integration). This is what I have.

You might have some options within Honeywell too.

frosty field
#

Yeah, so I have an Ecobee, but it's consistently saying it's cooler in the house than it could feasibly be. I have 2 Zigbee Thermometer/Hydrometer units, and both are pretty consistent with each other, but consistently 6-8 degrees cooler than the 2 Zigbee units. Right now, it is summer, and I'm in Los Angeles area. Highs have been around 85-95 degrees Fahrenheit. Ecobee is showing 72-74 indoors, but everything else I have shows 76-80 indoors.

#

Looking for something that relies on HA to tell it when to run, etc.
Probably won't fine something like that, but I'm hoping.

native pilot
#

Are the zigbee units the same model?

#

If they are, I wonder if they are accurately calibrated to reality (because they could be consistent to each other if calibrated to the same spec at the factory) just a thought.

tropic dune
#

Hi guys, is there a way I can integrate a LAVNA LP40 padlock with home assistant? It uses bluetooth on tuya.

cold moon
cold moon
#

Otherwise buy a Honeywell zigbee or zwave thermostat and they’re basically a dumb thing on the wall you fully control

tropic dune
#

This is not a thermostat

#

Its a padlock

#

I'm not aware of any with zigbee or wifi that have been used with HA before. Its not that common yet

cold moon
slim halo
cold moon
#

it will be better than a pi for sure

#

if you have the funds i'd still get a new mini pc they're faster, more efficient, and generally i just prefer new hardware when given the choice

slim halo
#

Of course, the Beelink mini looks like a better option but I'm not sure pricewise

finite narwhal
slim halo
cold moon
slim halo
#

16gb only for HA isn't this overkill ?

cold moon
#

it's still really old compared to the n100 - i actually have both the n100 and the m910q 7th gen intel

cold moon
golden thorn
cold moon
#

oh wait

#

no look at his pics

slim halo
cold moon
#

if you squint while looking at this cancer you see the CPU

#

pentium g4400T? yucc

golden thorn
cold moon
#

it should have a 6th/7th gen intel cpu like an i5 or i7 @slim halo

#

altho you gotta fish around and markets are all different- prices right now are kinda high for the used stuff compared to new n100 in my opinion

cold moon
# slim halo will use HAOS

the TLDR is you want a real OS to troubleshoot with, run backups, and if you want do additional things like test VMs or LXCs or whatever - even if all you do at first is install proxmox then install haos vm and leave it as is it's a good idea

slim halo
cold moon
#

They go on sale regularly down to around $160USD

#

Whatever that is it France bucks

slim halo
#

It was 110€ but now disappeared

cold moon
#

All good 👍🏻 try another day lol

golden thorn
#

I still see the 85€ coupon. 204-85 = 119€. Still good.

cold moon
#

Ah you might need to check off the coupon to claim it then

slim halo
#

Yes looks a bit bugged

cold moon
#

Ctrl + f5 clear browser cache

#

That assumes you use Firefox smile

golden thorn
#

Ah I see. Amazon is drunk. Ends in 02:49:05 but then The offer is no longer available..

slim halo
cold moon
#

All good 👍🏻 it’s worth the wait cuz they are on sale consistently

#

Check camelcamelcamel see how often they drop

slim halo
#

That's crazy how expensive they are on Aliexpress

cold moon
#

but i think the sales on amazon get lower than direct pricing lol

slim halo
#

yes that's crazy

lime wedge
#

Hello guys,
i need suggestions. What hardware do you recommend for smart switch relay? with overload protection.
something like this. Im gonna use it for switch to my lights. I want to control it via Home Assistant.

4ch up
other alternative for this. can put in the railbox also

Thank you

cold moon
#

Shelly sells some pro din rail relays

fallen coral
#

Yeayy I received gledopto light bars and worked out of the box on z2mqtt

#

Thanks Blakadder for your database. Makes hardware purchase so easy for home assistant

thorny holly
#

Is there a good setup for integrating an existing analog knob into HA with a servo or motor or something?

#

I have some climate control devices that have knobs, I'd like to automate the twisting of those knobs. I have a 3d printer if theres a project anyone knows about I can print

raw grotto
#

Anyone have any success with doorbells as media_player...specifically reolink. I have the doorbell show up as a media_player but whenever I try to play anything there is an AssertionError. I feel like it is likely some sort of definition in either the configuration.yaml or go2rtc.yaml, but any discussions on it are cryptic and usually "yay I figured it out thanks"

#

To make it clear - I feel like though the media_player exists, the assertion error is something like yeah it exists but it can't play audio so imma bail

#

Oooh it could be doorbell doesn't support pcma

green hawk
#

Any recommendations for a zigbee smart plug with power monitoring that actually supports 15a ?

Thirdreality have one but every review I read says that above 10a they starts doing stuff that may be dangerous.

Sonoff doesn’t support power monitoring except if you pry open the thing and flash it with tasmota, which I don’t want to do.

Every other thing I find is wifi 😦

green hawk
#

I just found aqara smart plugs, they seems to check all the boxes

fallen coral
#

Anyone using zigbee2mqtt for smart bulb or light bar?

Effects are not working from hass ui

slim lagoon
fallen coral
#

I think blink would be slow blinking or something?

#

Breathe will be like breathing effect

slim lagoon
fallen coral
#

Oh ok

#

Id love color loop

fallen coral
#

breathe effect seems to work but like blinking and then stopps after few seconds

slim lagoon
#

What kind of bulbs/strips are you using? Different brands support zigbee effects differently.

fallen coral
cold moon
#

wled guys still say gledopto is junk

winged knoll
#

Gledopto WLED maybe, but their Zigbee stuff is solid

cold moon
#

i figured their controllers were 1:1 wled/zigbee except for the actual chip for wifi/zigbee

thorn musk
#

Haven't had good experience with automatic door locks...anyone recommend one that integrates well with HA and isn't a constant battery replacement problem?

outer knotBOT
#

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
cold moon
#

If there’s resistance due to foundation issues for example then the motor works much harder and therefore uses more energy

native pilot
#

and also if they are tied to a weak mesh

cold moon
#

i think they just wake up on programmed wake up interval and then send lifeline and whatever other stuff as needed

native pilot
#

I had issues with mesh/battery early on, yale locks

cold moon
#

zwave?

native pilot
#

yeah

cold moon
#

a lot has changed over the past 2 years w/ zwave tbh

#

like if you did the exact same things now that you did 1-2 years ago i bet it would work more reliably

native pilot
#

yeah maybe, I've added a ton more zwave devices, so I always attributed the battery improvements to my mesh improving.

cold moon
#

well locks add whisper quiet according to al calzone (and only add directly to the controller to start not interviewed by routers)

native pilot
#

but it could be a combination of that and what you're saying

cold moon
#

so if you have no mesh and try to add a lock it would be fucked or minimal nodes to act as repeaters

#

and at the same time we had firmware issues on < 7.17.2

#

plus just general fixes by al for various zwave js things

sudden mango
#

What's the best way to get Zigbee support for my Proxmox clustered HA without hardware on the HA device?

cold moon
#

PoE coordinator attached to a switchport i suppose

slim halo
#

Hey @cold moon what do you think about it ?

cold moon
#

i suggest things i know and trust and see others use not something named after a starcraft2 character

cold moon
#

yeah

#

to save $20 or w/e idk bro

#

i'd rather go work at mcdonalds for 2 hours and get better stuff

fallen coral
slim halo
#

looks like there is a lot of reviews on Ali about Firebat models

cold moon
#

word

#

reviews are cheap

slim halo
#

true

cold moon
#

i'd trust ali reviews about as much as i'd trust a straw made out of paper

fallen coral
#

i wrote a review on my blog and thats it as I do not have amazon account lol. so thats how I realized that most of their reviews were fake

cold moon
#

lol

latent sandal
#

Important safety tip: Don't try to use GPT4 for electronics projects, it's absolute rubbish at it.

sudden mango
#

Any monitoring their pool? What ya got? Ideally I’d like to monitor ph and chlorine too

cold moon
sudden mango
#

This integrates well?

cold moon
#

the alternative is a diy esphome sensor but in the water and with corrosion and battery powered and in the sun idk man.. i wouldnt dare try a diy project for this

cold moon
sudden mango
#

I saw some diy stuff on Reddit but most of them run wires from pool to a box.

cold moon
#

and this is legitimately the only time i suggest tuya anything cuz i just dont know of an alternative

#

i genuinely find all tuya to be deplorable at best smile

#

it's just a crapshoot

cold moon
edgy rune
#

I have a question about the SMLight SLZB-06M. Can I use it as a zigbee coordinator with matter over thread? Im new to zigbee/matter.

cold moon
upper yoke
#

anyone use a everything presence lite? mine won't connect to my 2.4 or 5ghz networks during the initial setup.

drowsy scroll
#

This is pretty good for Roman blinds, think they make one for chains

#

Better be good at reading directions though.

cold moon
#

They will have a new sale in a couple weeks

fringe crater
#

$30 now at thesmartesthouse, probably $25 during a sale or so.

#

Though the shipping minimum is higher.

#

I think Zooz are usually better to buy direct vs amazon.

fringe crater
#

Would assume they just continue to function as local only switches.

#

I'd think they'd want to be taken out though, the tactile feel is not as good as a real toggle switch.

drowsy scroll
#

It's English, it's just, complicated

drifting grove
#

Anyone know if there's a way to get my Xiaomi LYWSD03MMC to display Fahrenheit on the actual device, after converting it to zigbee?

modest gyro
#

Guys, can you recommend cameras with built-in AI that I can use in HA to capture events such as the presence of people, animals, people counting, objects left/removed? I know that there is a frigate with the use of external TPU, but it would not be viable for my project. If there are cameras that return these events to me, it would be ideal for me. Thanks.

cold moon
#

Idk about all of your requirements tho

modest gyro
#

It would basically be for detecting people entering/leaving the house, perhaps counting people passing by the house, detecting animals, these are not crazy things. It is for a project of several smart homes (for a construction company).

#

Here in Brazil, it is more complicated to have access to TPU devices to place on the USB of the computer that is used as the HA server, due to costs and import problems, and as the frigate uses a lot of processing, it is not viable to use in more than one camera.

slim lagoon
modest gyro
mortal mica
#

Hi, I'm still very new to HA but I have a HA green and tried following the directions on connecting a network drive but it won't work for me. I tried searching the past couple weeks for a solution but I'm stuck. Does anyone have experience with this that could help?

cold moon
mortal mica
#

ok thank you very much

static tusk
#

can home assistant run on lenovo thinkcente m719q if so is a good options

golden thorn
static tusk
#

someone is selling a bunch on them on facebook for only $20 each. yeah M710q my bad

golden thorn
#

Buy multiple and make a cluster 😄

#

What specs do they have?

static tusk
#

all it says is 6th Gen, 7th Gen and M73 4th Gen

#

4th $20, 6th $40, 7th $50

golden thorn
#

Just for HAOS all of these should be fine. If you consider virtualizing I'd recommend a minimum of 8G of RAM and 4 cores.

static tusk
#

ok thanks. im starting to get back into smart home stuff and want to go overboard 🤣 . son just want somthing that will last a little bit

tacit burrow
#

@static tusk I run HA on proxmox on similar thinkcentres, works great. I have 2 of m910q

#

One is a 6500t one is a 7500t; each have 16GB of ram, and run a bunch of things. My HAOS itself uses like 5% CPU and 3GB of RAM.

uncut ridge
#

anyone using anything interesting for bluetooth beacons on pets for tracking (that isnt huge) ?

static tusk
tacit burrow
#

I have a warm spare, each runs a number of different things besides Home Assistant (including my router/firewall, my DNS blocker, some media-downloader things, etc).

#

HA doesn't have a meaningful "display", think of it as being a web-server. You can view or stream cctv via it's web interface, but you don't use the box "natively". Mine are in the garage, with no screen or keyboard plugged in at all

#

But I have a "camera" page within HA, and it can react (automation) to motion events etc

static tusk
#

are the wired or wireless cams?

tacit burrow
#

All wired, but that's pretty unrelated to home assistant.

static tusk
#

yeah

tacit burrow
#

My cameras are Reolink. A few are plugged directly into the NVR, and one is POE ip camera elsewhere on my network.

#

HA has a "reolink" integration, which talks to the NVR

static tusk
#

the one lenovo im looking at on facebook says no drive or power. im just assuming that means no ssd right? still a good deal for $20?

tacit burrow
#

Sounds like a hassle. Buy one with a drive and power supply. About $100 in USA on fleabay

#

Otherwise you need to buy the missing parts, and deal with "what if it doesn't work"

#

Unless you're really cheap, do yourself a favour and get a SSD not a spinning iron. And if you like all this home-automation stuff, getting something with 16GB will allow you to do lots of other cool things on the proxmox.

#

I have various tools, linux distros, windows and mac VMs, etc

tacit burrow
#

If you like closed-source and vendor lock-in, you'll be fine 😉

cold moon
iron hare
#

Im getting ready to build a display for HA. Ive looked at a few touchscreens. But i have a older AIO desktop with touchscreen. Should i use that instead? What Opersting system should i use on it?

tacit burrow
#

Anything that can run either a fullscreen browser in "kiosk mode", or maybe an app. Never used one.

vocal marten
#

I would probably use android with a kiosk app from the store, there are a few of them @iron hare

tardy walrus
#

if anyone wanna build customized pcb for their PI/ESP32 project hit me up, we are building tools to automate that stright to production : https://www.pamir.ai/

winged knoll
#

Better support for either ARM or X86?

round bone
#

I guess there is not too much thread devices right now on the market, right?

round bone
#

Do you mean this page contain ALL thread / matter devices?

native pilot
#

Supposedly yes. They update it monthly.

round bone
#

oh than for sure I need more, than thread

native pilot
#

Most people recommend zigbee or zwave here.

winged knoll
#

Keep in mind that Thread and Matter are not the same thing

round bone
#

but it looks like I have to have at least thread and zigbee

#

and it should be possible to keep server in different room then

#

connected by ethernet

outer knotBOT
#

@round bone When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

winged knoll
#

Don't make the mistake of using the multi-protocol firmware on that Zigbee stick

round bone
#

for sure I will buy separate one, I assume there is thread router which I can connect to ethernet

winged knoll
#

I suspect that they're not as common as WiFi connected ones

round bone
winged knoll
#

That's a channel

round bone
#

ah you mean it is hard to find such router right now on the market

winged knoll
#

No

#

I mean WiFi devices are more popular with manufacturers

#

However the #thread-archived channel can help you find ethernet connected ones in your country, if you tell them where that is

round bone
#

Is there jamming detector? So if somoene jam wifi / thread / zigbee it will be detected.

#

actually HA can check if get any signal in last X minutes

scenic night
#

Does anyone know how to control/automate the raspberry pi 5 fan when running home assistant on it? Mine is incredible noisy.

winged knoll
gloomy spoke
#

now I want to compose a cogent post that includes all the channel names

#

like a song that includes all the US states in alphabetical order

molten zodiac
#

does anyone have an idea what kind of wattage could be expected if running on a device like this? This seems like a pretty great price for the specs to me. Probably overkill on the specs. But I would like something that would run at under 15 watts while being fast and have upgradability.

winged knoll
#

15W TDP on the CPU, so the whole thing will consume more than 15W at peak loads

#

With SSD then it'll likely idle low enough

molten zodiac
#

i doubt it will be touching peak loads at all. Do you think this could be likely to remain below that?
Thanks

molten zodiac
#

I was looking at the HA green but the lack of upgradability put me off. And it would be far less powerful while being quite close in cost

molten zodiac
#

awesome sounds good so far. Will likely go with this or similar then.
Power is very expensive where I am at the moment so trying to minimise where possible.

#

would it reduce power consumption further running the HA OS bare metal rather than in a VM or docker container in a linux debian environment?

cold moon
molten zodiac
#

i'll look into that thanks. I assume you are referring to the virtual environment. Not encountered proxmox before. I would have just used VirtualBox but this may be better?

marble scarab
#

So i've purchased a bunch of smoke detectors that support Zigbee. I figured i would use the new Aqara Hub M3 for managing these devices and upon setting things up realized the hub wasn't compatible with third party Zigbee devices. Silly me, assuming Zigbee hubs support third party devices by default.

Anyhow, after checking with the vendor only two options seemed suited:

Homey

Home Assistant (Z2M and ZHA)

Since Homey got aquired by LG and the price is premium i figured i would go with Z2M instead. Only questions that remaining is how to make sure i have a solution that has high availability and is able to connect to all Zigbee devices in the house.

I have 2 spare NUC6i5's, so i figured i would start off with installing proxmox on both devices and running them in a HA cluster. Next i'm planning to configure HomeAssistant in a docker container and mount a Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus for connecting my Zigbee devices.

Will i run into any problems going this route, or are there any other aspects i should take into consideration?

For what it's worth. I live in a well isolated 3 story house with brick walls, so that's why i suspect signal strength could be a challenge.

winged knoll
#

#zigbee-archived can better help, but:

  1. Don't buy the Sonoff P dongle
  2. You'll likely be fine, you'll just need Zigbee routers in most rooms
cold moon
marble scarab
cold moon
#

for any product worth buying it's pretty much 1:1 unless there's a new device

winged knoll
cold moon
#

zha vs z2m comes down more to how you prefer to manage your mesh. i think z2m still provides a better user experience

winged knoll
#

That and it's a eggs in how many baskets thing ... do you want it all in HA, or some separation

#

I like separation

marble scarab
#

Thanks guys

tender tulip
#

any1 here with a beelink mini s12 pro N100 with upgraded ram to 32gb?

#

im reading in some places that it works, but beelink says only up to 16gb is supported

glacial oracle
#

Yes

#

It kinda works

tender tulip
#

kinda?

glacial oracle
#

It is not supposed, neither by beelink nor by intel

tender tulip
#

i kinda need it to work xD

#

so its not oficial supported but it works right?

#

as long as it works... i dont care

glacial oracle
#

It generally works but yours might not

tender tulip
#

ok. why?

#

motherboard?

glacial oracle
#

because it is not supported and therefore potentially not working as intended

native pilot
glacial oracle
#

Exactly

tender tulip
#

got it

#

any1 ever reported not working?

#

xda review of it says it supports

#

ill guess il try

#

my ram usage is not looking so good xD

glacial oracle
#

there are various systems on which upgrading the storage beyond the recommended capacity, speed or even specific brand may not work

#

on this one, if you buy nothing fancy it likely will work

tender tulip
#

i was thinking this 1

#

i can get it for 55€ bcause i have business acc, so no VAT

#

its the same speed and cl of the one installed but 32gb

glacial oracle
#

for the ddr4 variant i dont actually know

tender tulip
#

just noticed you linked ddr5

#

but the specs say its ddr4

glacial oracle
#

beelink has another model with ddr5 and dual lan

tender tulip
#

oh

glacial oracle
#

the eq12

#

i always mix them up

glacial oracle
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generally its the same cpu, not sure how much different it behaves

tender tulip
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here it says 32gb supported

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ill try

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because i have 1 more VM to turn on and i cant

glacial oracle
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they cannot advertise higher capacities than intel declares supported

tender tulip
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yes i know

glacial oracle
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but its fairly easily figured out by plugging one in and running some memory tests

tender tulip
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ordered. if all goes well, friday ill intall it

little sparrow
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recommendations to motorize my blinds? Currently plastic chains

gentle saddle
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Good Morning, I have a Shelly EM which which is marked as unavabile in HA an hour ago, but I can get to its web page no issues. It has not changed IPs, and has not disconnected. I have rebooted it and also reloaded it in the UI. The error mesage is "Failed setup, will retry: DeviceConnectionError(TimeoutError())" - any thoughts?

tender tulip
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mini pc they said xD...

golden thorn
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What are you running?

tender tulip
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the cpu is this high because plex is updating libraries

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but the ram... order 32gb. hope it works because its not oficial supported but every1 says it works

tender tulip
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106 is running a v rising server

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btw, the windows VM are all with ghost spectre superlite. it very little ram for the OS

golden thorn
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Can you share node > Search. I'm curious what uses how much. My guess is windows uses the most.
There are more powerful Mini PCs btw.

tender tulip
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windows and HAOS

golden thorn
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You might be able to stretch it with a bit of KSM tuning. KSM_NPAGES_MAX is pretty low by default for example. Note that KSM also uses a bit of CPU if your memory usage is > 80%.

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Hmm. Are you using ZFS?

tender tulip
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i ordered 32gb of ram so, that should not b necessary

tender tulip
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i shouldnt?