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cold moon
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You can ask in diy or esphome discord and see what people say

karmic wolf
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Now that I've upgraded to a NUC I have 3 RPi in a drawer

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I feel rich

winged knoll
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I suspect you have a USB passthrough problem, but they can start the troubleshooting

scenic oasis
winged knoll
fierce finch
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Hello everyone, i am looking for new intel nuc or barebone pc for my HA installation , someone maybe have some tips šŸ™‚

winged knoll
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The channel history has a lot of recommendations if you use the search feature

fierce finch
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yes i just saw it , wow . i think i go for a simple celeron system with a ssd

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Tinkerer - you are always super fast šŸ™‚

winged knoll
edgy fog
bitter shale
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@fierce finch I got a new Beelink mini-PC off Amazon this week. 8w power draw with all my services running and super fast. Not cheap, so if you only want HAOS it's overkill. But I wanted "play" space for future services via Proxmox.

remote pilot
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overkill is great for you to get into the slipper slope of adding on more stuff

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soon you'll have installed half the addons for managing 3 light switches

bitter shale
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Well I consolidated Heimdall, scrypted and homebridge onto the same mini-PC with LXC containers. Decomissioned 2 RPi 4s.

remote pilot
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I was considering a pfsense box to consolidate some stuff

bitter shale
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I will keep my HAOS install minimal, but the spare power can be used for non-HA stuff I want to tinker with

remote pilot
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at the very least I could push wireguard off my rpi to free that up a bit

cold moon
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there's zero reason to use homebridge over homekit integration in hass

bitter shale
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I dumped OPNsense a few months ago and got a Firewalla gold plus. Vastly better for my needs.

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@cold moon I already have HB running with a ton of plugins from my prior home automation setup. Over time I'll consider migrating the devices to HA.

cold moon
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just pull off the bandaid

bitter shale
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Not right now no, I still have a ton of HA, proxmox, backup, UPS, and other stuff that's way higher priority than an already working rock solid service like HB.

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I've only had HA for 3 weeks

cold moon
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better late than never

bitter shale
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I have a Hubitat C8 for all my current automations and it's great...so I feel no rush to migrate platforms.

drifting grove
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Anyone had some success or know a way of gettin TPLink Tapo integreated ?

fierce finch
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thx guys!!!

copper juniper
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6500t idling at 9-11w with frigate running

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wonder how much lower it can go

crimson knot
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I am just getting started with HA, and the first project I want to undertake seems like kind of a doozy. I have a Navien combi boiler: https://www.navieninc.com/products/ncb-240-130h that I want to set up zones on with some smart thermostats. I don't have any smart pumps or relays or anything yet. I am trying to determine what the best way to go about this is. There aren't really many good integrations for Navien that I have seen, except maybe this third party one: https://github.com/nikshriv/hass_navien_water_heater. I am looking for hardware suggestions.
My thoughts at the moment are to not try to integrate with Navien's stuff too much directly. Definitely not with their apps, which by all appearances are pretty poor. Instead I'd maybe like to just get some sort of a smart relay board to control the pumps, and some smart thermostats that integrate well with HA.
Ideally I would like to get POE smart thermostats rather than WIFI ones, but after some searching it looks like those pretty much don't exist.
Any ideas for hardware/software I should use, or general places I should start looking?

sand crow
karmic cargo
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I have several Aqara motion sensors & door sensors. Is it expected that the battery level will go up and down? For example, I have one that reported 69.34 (mean) on March 14th, and it's slowly worked its way up & down to 68.85 today. Others have a dead flat graph line, but most are up an down. I've got one that's reported as low as 42.69 in late Dec and is now reporting 56.00.

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In general, I'm getting that the reported battery level is more of a guideline than an absolute guaranteed value, but the fluctuation I'm seeing strikes me as odd.

remote pilot
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I have some temp sensors from them. it doesn't make sense... you just wait until they go offline lol

karmic cargo
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huh... OK. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

remote pilot
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I changed like 4 batteries all at once from the same battery pack newly bought

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one of them is at 80% but it's the closest to the router I paired it with

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rest are ~100%

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been about a week or two only lol

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I wish the ESPHome stuff snapped together more like legos since I'm mildly intimidated by soldering stuff

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plus buying all the tools needed...

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I was considering connecting some up to my mini splits for local access

cold moon
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Iā€™d just ignore them or set alerts or notifications for like under 20%

karmic cargo
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I've got one on the garage door - I can see it getting cold and not reporting a high value, the reporting higher when it warms back up, but the rest are in the house.
Oh well...

cold moon
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China gonna china

karmic cargo
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heh... true!

burnt blaze
silver rose
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Hey folks! I'm considering some (eye watteringly expensive) Lutron shades. I know HA has Lutron integration and I've seen some positive comments in my research so far, but I'd love to hear from someone that has them before I take the plunge on such a big purchase. Does anyone here have experience with them? Does their HA connection seem reliable?

warm burrow
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I have a house that is four stories, built of solid concrete, but have WiFi through out.

Is it possible with Home Assistant to have a Raspberry Pie on each floor , acting has a ZigBee Server, where they are all linked through wifi or hardwired to the network?

remote pilot
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why do you need so many instances if you have presumably connectivity? are the APs linked via ethernet or wifi?

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oh I guess zigbee can't mesh across the floors

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Z2M on each floor and then share an MQTT server?

cold moon
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You can buy a PoE zigbee coordinator and centrally locate it for minimal hops necessary

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@marsh lichen makes a PoE coordinator that a lot of people really like.

remote pilot
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Guess you can always start with one coordinator and have routers. And at the worst case swap to what I said

warm burrow
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@remote pilot It is all currently connected thru Alexia

weak yew
jovial verge
weak yew
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but not the inside walls right?

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I understand the floor and outsidewalls or inbetween walls between you and the neighbours

weak yew
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Luckily I live in the EU and do not support the paper buildings that just fly away in the land far away. I understand most houses are made out of concrete but normally it is the shell of the house and not every wall inside the house. Plaster is usually used instead of concrete when they are building the walls that are inside the house or else you could never easily remove walls.

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Y'all making me feel like im crazy here lol

tranquil girder
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i spose this is a bit retro active, but I was looking to buy something in about the same price range as the rpi4 (at msrp ofc) which is about $35. I settled on the HP T610, as I found one for about $45, everything included. Is this a good machine for something within my allocated budget, or should I look for something else

golden thorn
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You should buy something a little more recent

tough garden
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Hello there - I'm looking for a garage door opener module that would work on an old Sommer motor (not compatible with Somweb), and would be local only. I only found ismartgate, for which Cloud appears to be mandatory. Any suggestion would be great!

gusty onyx
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is it possible to scan a qr code to install a device with HA

cold moon
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with zwave and smartstart yes

gusty onyx
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my only zwave device is a smartthings hub

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thats odd cause i managed to install the smartthings motion sensor with zigbee coordinator

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but for some reason the button won't pick up

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im trying to get rid of my smartthings hub sir

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by the way i appreciat eyou helping out all the time and responding

cold moon
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i'd suggest getting a zigbee coordinator and zwave controller and get off their hub

cold moon
gusty onyx
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i finallyt got it

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it read it after 5 times

cold moon
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nice

gusty onyx
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I know you suggested zwave usb to me which i have it on my amazon list

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what are the cheap and best devices to use with zwave other the door lock

cold moon
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i use and like zooz light switches such as the zen76

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you can buy them from their website thesmartesthouse and save some money. also they have sales a few times a year where everything goes like 20% off or more so you might prefer to wait and buy all at once

gusty onyx
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I might do it for my dumb fans and use the zooz switch

cold moon
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well smart switches capable of fans is limited. they currently suggest the zen30 double switch which can only handle up to 3a i believe and will not have fan speed control only on/off

gusty onyx
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i just need the on/off anyway

cold moon
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then this will work fine

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they do smart bulb mode too so you can use smart bulbs with them

gusty onyx
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so far im all in aqara and wyze camera and hue for lights

cold moon
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not a fan of wyze camera certainly not their cloud shit but you can flash custom RTSP firmware depending on models

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hue bulbs are gold standard for zigbee and work great as routers for repeating signal - and aqara sensors are dirt cheap and work fine so no issues there just make sure to pair them directly to closest router when joining to your mesh

gusty onyx
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already did the RTSP on the wyzecam...

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yup

gusty onyx
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how do i delete the other scenes that came from the Hue app or hub

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ive already transfered the lights bulbs to my zigbee coordinator on HA

fallen cedar
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Does anyone know of a wireless plug/usb charger that can do power monitoring for very small loads?I have a dog water fountain and want to be able to tell when it is empty based on the more/less amperage the motor is pulling. I have a Sonoff S31 but it canā€™t detect the low amperage level used by this USB fountain.

cold moon
gusty onyx
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i realized that when i wasn't able to delete after i wrote it on here

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why is when I set a change color on the device itself, it goes back to the normal kelvin... current 3610 and when i raise it higher it automatically goes back to 3610

gusty onyx
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I have wyze lights, will i need to take that out of the wyze app and pair it with zigbee coordinator?

remote pilot
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are those even zigbee lights?

gusty onyx
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im not sure

remote pilot
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product page?

cold moon
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that's sensors tho

gusty onyx
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i do have sensors but they are out of commission right now

remote pilot
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tbh I wouldn't invest in any of the wyze eco system

cold moon
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you should probably yell at anyone who told you to buy wyze

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they're a shit chinese brand

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wait no they arent

remote pilot
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they drop support for stuff without notice

cold moon
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they just used to phone home to china

remote pilot
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they're not chinese but they source stuff from china iirc

cold moon
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wait ya they are

remote pilot
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with some modifications etc

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either way you get burned with them. other than the cheap price

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I think it was the wyze sense v1 where if the battery on the sensor got too low the device got bricked

cold moon
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really just no need to buy their products when better exist for any and all models

remote pilot
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and also their sensors/bridge just stopped working for me one day

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but yeah if you already have their bulbs I think there's a couple of integrations you can add to at least use them in HA

cold moon
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i have one of their v2 cameras flashed with openmiko custom rtsp firmware for a 3d printer

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that's the only device of theirs i have

remote pilot
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ah I've been using the docker-wyze-bridge to just pull static screenshots. seems okay enough

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it's not local access RTSP though

cold moon
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sad

gusty onyx
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I will eventually get out of wyze since i started with HA

gusty onyx
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why is it the an aqara door sensor sometimes dont recognize the door open when sensor saying its closed on HA

cold moon
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probably a zigbee mesh issue

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did you pair it to its closest bulb or whatever repeater

gusty onyx
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theres a hue light thats on the coordinator

cold moon
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when you joined it to the network did you specify that bulb tho

gusty onyx
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and there's motion sensor and a hallway light as well tahts on the coordinator

cold moon
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?

gusty onyx
cold moon
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firstly.. change the name of that bulb lol

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"huelight" is not descriptive at all

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idk i use z2m not zha- google how to pair directly to a repeater with zha

mild rover
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Tip about "ssh 22222" and "USB CONFIG":

Format the USB with EXT4 (instead of FAT or NTFS).

When you moved your authorized_keys file to "CONFIG USB";
chmod 600 authorized_keys
chown root authorized_keys

And then follow the "intstruction"...

The above fixed it for me....

gentle fossil
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Ok so now i format my haos installed on usb with ext4 right

mild rover
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No only the "CONFIG USB"...

gentle fossil
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Alright

mild rover
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When some none existing file should be copied,,,

I think the script which copies authorized_keys from "CONFIG USB" when booting or running "ha os import", don't have any code that take care of ownership and so on, for /root/.ssh/authorized_keys.
SSH don't like config files which are to "open" (or own by someone else).

pallid prairie
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What zigbee hubs do you guys recommend?

gentle fossil
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nĆøne

cosmic crane
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Anyone with the Aqara motion sensor have tips for making it more sensitive? Do I just have to play around with positioning?

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It detects me fairly reliably but doesn't always detect my toddler

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I have it mounted on the ceiling looking down a hallway

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Sidenote: this thing is ridiculously small.

burnt blaze
cosmic crane
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I'm not sure actually.

remote pilot
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order some mmwave sensors? lol

pallid prairie
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The aqara sensors are good?

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I'm thinking of water, door, motion ones...

winged knoll
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Their Zigbee 3.0 devices (E1/T1/P1) are better than the older ones, but even those aren't bad

pallid prairie
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I'm so overwhelmed

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I met with a contractor today

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And I want to get as much automation stuff dealt with before they close walls and paint and shit.

winged knoll
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Run neutrals to every light switch

pallid prairie
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That I keep seeing is important

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I think I'm gonna run cat 6 into every room

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I can always add switches later if needed

winged knoll
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If you want hard wired door/window sensors then also run cables to every door and window

pallid prairie
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The aqara ones seem to get 2 years out of a cr3032 battery

winged knoll
pallid prairie
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I also need a central monitored alarm system

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It will save me a lot on homeowners insurance, and I live in NY so it's a pretty big diff.

pearl glade
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Does anyone have pointers for a load cell occupancy sensor setup? I'm using a D1 Mini and HX711 that works but weights will shift dramatically. I have an automation that tares to compensate for drift. Laying in the bed though without moving can shift values by 10-20lbs. I think it could be my solder joints, low quality hx711, load cell placement but wanted ideas before I invest more time/money into this

pallid prairie
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I think I'm gonna get the hue white bulbs for the ceiling lights

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1100 lumens each is pretty bright right?

cold moon
pallid prairie
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are there other companies like aqara that have suites of sensors that are any better / different?

cold moon
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Hue motion sensors are the best around and also do temperature and lux

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Theyā€™re expensive tho

pearl glade
cold moon
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Mark watt tech was another iirc

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Thatā€™s a neat way to use them with zigbee

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You can also combine multiple sensors like load cell plus mmWave or ultrasonic etc

pallid prairie
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oh cool didn't even know philips had them, they're not even easy to find on the site

cold moon
pallid prairie
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just mixed in under accessories

cold moon
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The slightly older model is still widely available on Amazon for the same cost lol

pallid prairie
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they're lights aren't even as bad they sell 8 packs with a discount

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as bad as I thought I mean *

cold moon
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They had buy 2 get 1 or something recently

pallid prairie
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I'm trying to decide if I should just get all color ones in case

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they aren't that much more

cold moon
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They kinda are

pallid prairie
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like 8$ each or something

cold moon
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A lot of people like them tho

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1600 lumen rgbw are $80 iirc

pallid prairie
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I'm looking at high hats right now

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this house has no lights currently

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like the master bedroom has no lights in the ceiling

cold moon
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Wild

cold moon
pallid prairie
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yeah, I'm like whatever is the normal amount of lights, please add double

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philips doesn't have traditional cans as far as I see

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they have the retro fit versions

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but IDK if you need the bulb adapter part, you can probably wire them direct

cold moon
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Yea

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Well they have lots of ceiling mount types

pallid prairie
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these aren't retro fit

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1200 lumen per light

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fully dimmable, million billion colors or whatever

cold moon
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I have the retrofit versions with color temp only

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Iā€™m happy with them

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But not much more for rgbw for those variants so Iā€™d prob get those

pallid prairie
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that one isn't sold in the 8 pack though

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this one is, 1100 lumen, retrofit

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I probably need 20 - 30 of them

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but philips doesn't make the water sensors, I'd like to put those under sinks and stuff

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so maybe I'll still do aquara for that

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I need switches for the lights too

cold moon
pallid prairie
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I thought we hate zwave

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Any particular sensors you can link

cold moon
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We?

pallid prairie
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You said you hate zwave, I'm just siding with you

cold moon
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No I didnā€™t

pallid prairie
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Or maybe that was something else.

cold moon
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I use both zigbee and zwave

pallid prairie
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I'm confused then.

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My bad

cold moon
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Confusing me with someone else I guess

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Most people donā€™t mix and match meshes tho

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The benefit of these particular sensors is verifying the command was sent and received with S2 supervision

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Aqara stuff is great but ultimately itā€™s cheap chinese shit so for something like a water sensor Iā€™m hard pressed to suggest them

pallid prairie
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I searched it was Blackadder

cold moon
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He has some interesting opinions and attitude

pallid prairie
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OK so are there decent zwave door window sensors and light switches then

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I'll ditch the aqara cheap Chinese family

cold moon
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Door window.. expensive options such as the Aeotec

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Zooz light switches are reasonably priced

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Iā€™m not suggesting you ignore aqara I like their door and window sensors

pallid prairie
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OK well at least most of these sensors are battery powered so I don't have to plan wires

cold moon
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Thereā€™s downsides to going zigbee bulbs and zwave switches tho

pallid prairie
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Hue is zigbee based right

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Or sorta?

cold moon
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Mostly that home assistant, zigbee, and zwave canā€™t fail or your light switches donā€™t work

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Yes hue is zigbee

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You might prefer the inovelli blue zigbee switches

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Problem is theyā€™re $50 each and back ordered

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And still very new so bugs in firmware are being ironed out but people seem to really like them

pallid prairie
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Oh boy

cold moon
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?

pallid prairie
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Lot of info

cold moon
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Youā€™re welcome

pallid prairie
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The inovelli seem nice

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Haha thanks, you have been super helpful

cold moon
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Haha

pallid prairie
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Lol

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Those switches are in stock just not 10 packs

cold moon
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Inovelli blue?

pallid prairie
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Yea

cold moon
pallid prairie
cold moon
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Shows back order for me

pallid prairie
cold moon
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They were 2 months out last time I looked but I see mid April now

pallid prairie
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Wrong link, this site has single it doesn't say backorder

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But some people will tell you after you pay.

cold moon
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Not familiar with that site

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Are you us or eu?

pallid prairie
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Us

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Ny

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Capital of the world!

cold moon
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Lol

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I like my southern hospitality I think Iā€™d hate it there

pallid prairie
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Yeah we don't exactly have that.

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We talk fast and eat bagels

cold moon
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Gross

pallid prairie
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So maybe I should do aqara switches then so they work if there's issues

cold moon
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Well idk about that

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Trusting Chinese hardware on mains voltage?

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Thatā€™s a no from me dawg

pallid prairie
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Yes we passed on them for the cheap part

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OK other zigbee switches

cold moon
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I only like and suggest the inovelli

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Everything else is Chyna

pallid prairie
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Ohh it was zooz

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I got it nlw

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Now

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Inovelli was zig

cold moon
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Word

pallid prairie
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They have door and water sensors too

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Which is aeotec

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Which you said

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I'm catching up here finally

cold moon
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Aeotec is a good zwave brand and I have one of their recessed door sensors

pallid prairie
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But we prefer zwave for the water cause it's important

cold moon
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But the zooz ones are probably fine thatā€™s their new line

pallid prairie
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Not aeotec zigbee

cold moon
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Lol

pallid prairie
cold moon
pallid prairie
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OK that makes sense

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Shit I forgot about smoke

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This is getting expensive

cold moon
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Lol

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Well

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You need interconnect and battery backup combo ones

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So get good ones then connect one of these

pallid prairie
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Oh a 50 after thought adapter that's not bad at all

cold moon
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Nope

pallid prairie
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OK the baby can have a smart smoke detector then

cold moon
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Then you have smart speakers

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They can detect when smoke alarms go off as a backup

pallid prairie
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100 percent of my current smoke alarm activity has been my wife's cooking

cold moon
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Fun

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You have nest?

pallid prairie
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No

cold moon
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Have you looked into wire replacement?

pallid prairie
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We're in an apartment right now so I haven't bothered with a lot

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Just some hue bulbs and Alex

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A

cold moon
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No bezos on my lan

pallid prairie
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We love jeff

cold moon
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Sad

pallid prairie
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They opened a million Square foot fulfillment facility 5 mins away

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It's like magic

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You order stuff at 8pm and they deliver it while you sleep

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Plus we like the voice commands

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And she plays lullabies

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How do the zigbee hubs work, you need to have a few or they all connect together

tranquil heart
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Hey sorry if this has been asked before but couldn't find it anywhere. If I connect a ring doorbell to Home Assistant, can I still use the ring app as needed? I want to be able connect ring to my Google home mini for when the doorbell is pushed, but I also want to be able to view live video feed from the ring app. Are they mutually exclusive or can I use both apps as needed?

grizzled bronze
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Hi, a strange thing happened, I set up the Xiaomi TV to turn on using wol, but then I rolled back the settings, but the TV now turns on every time it turns off (after about 10 seconds). I checked 3 times, I didn't find any settings. What could it be?

grizzled bronze
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wake_on_lan disabled in the yaml file. The problem persists. Turned off the Home Assistant, the TV stopped turning on, turned on the server, the TV turns on again immediately after turning off.

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šŸ˜…

winged knoll
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After changing the YAML you'll have had to restart HA - did you?

grizzled bronze
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Of course, and more than once)

winged knoll
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Then check the Logbook on the sidepanel to see what HA thinks is going on

grizzled bronze
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And how to find wol there?

winged knoll
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It shows everything HA did, or detected

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So, if an automation ran, it shows there

grizzled bronze
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Checked, there are no mentions of wol

winged knoll
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And nothing for any automation?

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Nothing trying to turn on your media player?

grizzled bronze
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No

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Ha start and stop

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And my voice assistant

winged knoll
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I set up the Xiaomi TV to turn on using wol
How did you do that?

grizzled bronze
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Script from the web

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And

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Example configuration.yaml entry

switch:

  • platform: wake_on_lan
    mac: MAC_ADDRESS
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on yaml

winged knoll
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Ok, so you need to check that switch's state and history

grizzled bronze
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But I deleted it everywhere, checked it, more than once

winged knoll
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Then it's not HA

grizzled bronze
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But the problem is solved only when I turn off HA

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I'll also mention what I prescribed in yaml

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media_player:

  • platform: xiaomi_tv
    host: YOUR_TV_IP
    name: YOUR_TV_NAME
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But it didn't work

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And yet, now auto-switching happens once a minute

grizzled bronze
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turned off the server for 20 minutes, the TV stopped turning on, later I'll see what packets go to the TV

grizzled bronze
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@winged knoll You were right, I turned off HA for a few hours, the TV turned on itself while I was waiting, tracked traffic to it, the result, there was no traffic, the TV turned on itself, the broken wol function in the xiaomi p1 43 TV. Thank you for participating! But another moment, while I was cleaning cfg, I overdid it, the HA quick reboot function disappeared, don't you know how to get it back?

winged knoll
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Without knowing what you did ... no

grizzled bronze
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@winged knoll Forced the system to recreate the files: core.restore_state, frontend.user_data, access.repositories, hacs.hacs, mobile_app, tmp0koa9pik, core.device_registry, core.entity_registry. I know it was a stupid idea, but it's 4 in the morning for me.

winged knoll
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This isn't IRC @grizzled bronze - you really don't need to keep tagging me

grizzled bronze
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@winged knoll Can I have 1 more time? šŸ˜…

winged knoll
grizzled bronze
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Hahahah

winged knoll
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Request denied šŸ˜‰

vast tulip
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Has anyone had device connectivity problems when they are close to the 2.4ghz router? Having one set of Tuya LEDs drop out that's about 1.5-2 meters from the access point, I've got 2 other of the same model with zero problems.

plush smelt
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Hey guys, this is gonna be a weird question but does anyone know of a local version of the sensibo? I want to control my air cons locally but want to be able to sync it to HA when the dumb remote is used, so broadlink is out

peak talon
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If you are okay with DIY, using esp devices and ir tx and rx leds with esphome is a standard diy

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Only major brands supported out of box, for other you will need to get ir codes

plush smelt
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I've not done diy stuff before - was hoping to have an out of the box solution if at all possible before looking at diy stuff

cold moon
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Then look at the bond bridge or broad link bridge

plush smelt
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It seems like the bond bridge is like the broadlink in that it doesn't read incoming signals, right? Or did I misunderstand it?

north trellis
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Due that the Yellow is out of stock, what hardware do you recommend to run HA + MQTT + zigbee2mqtt + appdaemon + nodered?

cold moon
north trellis
tulip dragon
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Hi all, Iā€™m looking for some hardware recommendations for making some light switches in my home remotely operable.

Ideally Iā€™d like to keep my existing switch plates, I donā€™t need every switch on the panels to be accessible, but I am open to also replacing the plates and making them all smart if necessary.

Iā€™d also like to keep it simple, something ha can easily detect without much tinkering.

Thank you

winged knoll
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There's a host of Zigbee and WiFi options, which all depend on ...

outer knotBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
shell laurel
winged knoll
cold moon
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Yeah

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Wait a year

winged knoll
cold moon
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Future proofing with tech is great unless youā€™re talking about matter, thread, or cat8

winged knoll
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Go with proven and stable over cutting edge

shell laurel
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so what I'm hearing is that they all suck right now

cold moon
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Well worse is they arenā€™t even cutting edge

winged knoll
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Matter has a lot of potential... hopefully

cold moon
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Iirc matter spec / RFC isnā€™t even finalized for cameras and other things

shell laurel
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what light switch solution would you recommend for right now?

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hypothetically

outer knotBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
winged knoll
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ā˜ļø

cold moon
shell laurel
cold moon
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If you want dimmable + rgbw (including color temperature change) then you want smart bulbs and smart switches combined

tranquil girder
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hey, im looking for something round $35-40 give or take a little tht can run ha. obviously im not looking for anything super powerful. any suggestions or ideas whjere to start? im looking at think clients rn as i understand those area pretty good option

cold moon
shell laurel
tranquil girder
shell laurel
cold moon
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Hue are the gold standard for zigbee

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You just donā€™t use their shit bridge

tranquil girder
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made me chuckle tho

shell laurel
golden thorn
cold moon
tranquil girder
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im looking around, seeing a lot of dell wyse and hp TXXX's

cold moon
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Zigbee is attractive to a lot of people

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Double the bandwidth of zwave and a bit more noob friendly

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Itā€™s harder to make a zigbee mesh fall over.. zwave you have to be wary of what devices you add to the mesh and attempt to change their reporting intervals to minimize traffic on the mesh

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Which sucks

winged knoll
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And Zigbee devices are usually a lot cheaper

shell laurel
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that sounds pretty bad yea

cold moon
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With that being said zwave light switches are half the price of the good zigbee ones

shell laurel
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why would zwave be more expensive?

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oh

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I guess it's case by case?

cold moon
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The only zigbee light switches I suggest are $50 each (inovelli blue)

cold moon
winged knoll
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But it does mean that all Z-Wave stuff works together

cold moon
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Zigbee any ChynaTM company can spit out

winged knoll
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Zigbee is a bit more of a ... wild wild west

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Looks at Tuya, and Sonoff, and ...

cold moon
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I use both meshes and like both of them as far as my hardware and performance is concerned

shell laurel
cold moon
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?

shell laurel
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you said zwave meshes can fall over and you have to worry about individual devices right?

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but why is that a problem when Zwave has a zwave alliance that all products must pass through

cold moon
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Because of that and the inherent bandwidth constraints of the protocol

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Itā€™s funny cuz a lot of people say ā€˜zwave just worksā€™ and thatā€™s why they like it

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Which in my experience is more accurate for zigbee lol

tranquil girder
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between the Dell Wyse 5060 and hp T620, to my uneducated self the dell looks better. am i making the right decision here?

cold moon
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Youā€™d have to post the specs here Iā€™m not gonna google and stare and compare for you lol

tranquil girder
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lol kk

winged knoll
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Google name of CPU cpumark and see what scores higher

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Then check the age of the CPU and see which is newer

tranquil girder
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cpu all i should really care about?

winged knoll
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It's probably the first thing to check

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After that it's just a matter of checking the RAM and storage

tranquil girder
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im assuming 4gb ram is fine, one of these they dont list storage size and it can come in 8 or 64gb. i know 8 is low, but is that sufficient?

cold moon
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And eBay seller

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No

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You can buy a brand new mini pc with a celeron for around $100

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Might be better to just go that route

tranquil girder
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i am trying to keep my budget much lower than that atm

winged knoll
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For HA you need at least 32 GB of storage

tranquil girder
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kk ty

tulip dragon
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Sorry, regarding my search for lightswitch control hardware suggestions:

Iā€™m in the US.

No real budget, Iā€™m willing to spend whatever it costs for a simple solutions.

Iā€™d prefer wifi.

Beside simple remote on/off control, dimming is a plus.

pallid prairie
cold moon
cold moon
# pallid prairie what does this mean

Their bridge can only handle around 50 devices before it falls on its face and you get multi second delays on commands. You use a zigbee coordinator and pair devices to that

pallid prairie
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interesting, I have the hue bridge now, with like 15 bulbs

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and I'm gonna have a lot more in a month or two

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didn't know that

cold moon
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The only thing you lose is the music syncing shit

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Although you can implement that back with community made projects like diyhue and emulated hue

pallid prairie
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I kinda liked the tv light sync thing, but the box that made it work would randomly cut out and need to be restarted

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I haven't tried the app based version they have since released

cold moon
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And incredibly overpriced

pallid prairie
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I have no kind words for it

brittle gulch
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Zigbee motion sensor detection timing

cold moon
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No u

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Lol

bitter dove
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Anyone have suggestions as far as hardware setup for a jackshaft garage door opener? I am hoping to integrate with Zigbee or Zwave but would still like to have a hardwired button/controller in the garage. I see some Liftmaster(Chamberlain) models have auto locking feature as well which is a plus for security once it's closed. Currently considering this basic one, then adding on my own integration (opposed to their "smart" WIFI submodels): https://a.co/d/gGLLF4L I am seeing the MyQ is integratable with home assistant. Wondering if anyone has done this as well, I guess it would go the wifi route? https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/myq/ . Maybe I answered some of my own question here: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/myq-alternatives/261805 just looking for feedback or experience?

pliant forum
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The problem with alot of newer Chamberlain/Liftmaster openers is that they use a proprietary protocol to have the button open the door so you need an additional adapter.

bitter dove
pliant forum
pliant forum
bitter dove
# pliant forum Just looked at the page I sent and it looks like the opener you are looking at d...

Gotcha. Yeah I am still looking at buying the door and everything but I was quoted 185 for install on the opener even if I don't buy it through the contractor I was quoted from, but they only install chamberlain/liftmaster products. I'd maybe have them install it just without any wifi pieces but trying to do the bare minimum there of have them partially install for manual operation only and then I can add all the bits on the back end/modify for a more local Zigbee or Zwave integration.

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Seems like the Sonoff controller is wifi also, so looking for a zwave/zigbee alternative for that function.

pliant forum
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Any old zwave/zigbee relay and a door sensor should work

bitter dove
# pliant forum Just looked at the page I sent and it looks like the opener you are looking at d...

Liftmaster 8500 product description on that amazon link: "Safeguard your household with security+ 2.0ā€”with every click, a new code is sent to the garage door opener, so the door opens only for you. Battery backup capable stay out of harms way with audio and visual warnings when the garage door is about to close. Don't get stuck in the dark. The motion detector activates the garage door openerā€™s lights as soon as you enter the garage. Remain safe with the protector system. It projects a light beam across the garage door opening, preventing it from closing if anything interrupts it. Ensure your door cannot be forced open with a power lock deadbolt."

pliant forum
bitter dove
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Might be that controller pictured there is the updated version or something.

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I'll have to see about a relay but it seems like the best integration would be converting everything at the controller and keeping everything else brand specific after the modification to the controller.

cold moon
bitter dove
cold moon
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You can use their relays

bitter dove
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Haha simultaneously came to the same conclusion

cold moon
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They make an S2 double relay

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You can also do like IR or RF hub / bridge instead

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Mimicking the opener or button

bitter dove
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That one is also a dry contact, so I guess thats hardwired vs the standard controller it sounds like it sends a coded wireless signal after receiving an RF signal.

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I wonder if they are talking about the wall unit controller or the remote when they mention the encoded aspect of the Security 2.0? Ideally would like to be able to program my car's built in opener button on my rear view mirror as well.

cold moon
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Have you looked at opengarage too?

pallid prairie
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These mfrs wanna push the closing 3 weeks now

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I have more time to obsess about zigs

cold moon
pallid prairie
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We already have 1 baby

cold moon
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Ya but do they even help with smart home stuff

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Maybe you can get a litter robot and train the baby to use it smile

pallid prairie
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Ooh I like that

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She doesn't help with anything. Babies so lazy

cold moon
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You could feed her with a smart cat food dispenser too

pallid prairie
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How do we feel about simplisafe

cold moon
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The mainstream alarm company?

pallid prairie
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Yes

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I need an alarm that is monitored

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For the baby, kidnapping and stuff

cold moon
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I donā€™t have a personal opinion to provide

remote pilot
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kidnapping o.o

cold moon
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Iā€™d ask on the forums and on Reddit

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Konnected.io is suggested here a lot and people like it but Iā€™m not familiar with their monitoring

pallid prairie
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But seriously the insurance wants central monitoring for a decent discount

cold moon
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Iā€™ve seen noonlight but itā€™s a bit on the diy side which is scary in case of failure during emergency

pallid prairie
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I'll put it on the list

gusty onyx
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this is the 2nd device that i bought with Sonoff smart devices, it never pairs... first one was the motion sensor and now the wifi plugs, still not pairing. Should i Install the Sonoff app to see if the device works? odd cause i have installed Aqara & hue devices with no issues

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please help

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I have sonoff zigbee with ZHA.... WHY!

pliant forum
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@pallid prairie take a look at Abode, has a native HomeKit integration so it can be used with HomeKit Controller in HA for local control.

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Just avoid any of their cameras, I would only use it for security.

near oak
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Any recommendations for a relay (switch) that runs, or can run, ESPhome and supports 120V 15A? Iā€™m looking to automate a level 1 EV charger.

dapper parrot
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I have finally persuaded my gas company to allow me to get direct access to the meter so I can get consumption data into HA. They will give me a wired M-Bus socket - however from reading around this seems non-trivial to integrate and there isn't any guarantee it will even work. Has anyone managed to do this successfully?

drifting grove
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Someone nows a wired/ethernet smoke detector works with HA?

tidal bridge
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hi, what is my currently available option(s) (bluetooth, zigbee or wifi) to get supported infrared controls for aircon ? i want to turn it on and off remotely. already have other sensors in room with aircon so tracking of other stuff is not really needed

pallid prairie
shrewd gorge
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Is there a site that lists the best basic devices for hass, sorted by protocol (WiFi, ZigBee, Z-Wave...)? So, lights, switches, plugs, motion sensors, etc.?

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Asking since I'm looking for a good low price (<$10 each) motion/presence sensor. Preferably Z-Wave. I'm in the US.

winged knoll
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No

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You'll be lucky to find anything Z-Wave for under $10, never mind good stuff

cold moon
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the zwave motion sensor options to me were lackluster. i have a zooz zwave multisensor and if it sends temp/humidity/lux it WILL NOT TRIGGER MOTION until the 30 second timer resets

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kinda fuckin useless as a motion sensor when that happens lol

short stag
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I have zzh! CC2652R, with 20220219 firmware, as Zigbee coordinator. It work like a charm. Today I've discovered that there is a newer firmware available (20221226). I guess it's time to update. The question is, will firmware update mess with my network? Or is it completely harmless?

winged knoll
short stag
outer knotBOT
#
The topic of this channel is:

There's a channel for #yellow-archived if you have questions about it.

Questions about a hardware device (not their #integrations-archived with HA, and not the thing that HA calls devices)? Someone might have the same device and be able to help you out! If you've got a Z-Wave or Zigbee devices, see #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived, #cameras-archived for cameras, and #diy-archived for making your own stuff (or if you're asking about Tasmota or ESPHome).

If you have problems with the Blue or your installation see #installation-archived.

If you want to share images, use https://imgur.com/ or similar.

Please use https://www.codepile.net/ or https://paste.debian.net/ to share code or logs

winged knoll
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Always read the channel topics

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Also, as a rule of thumb more specific > more general

short stag
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Sorry, sir. My bad. Won;t happen again. šŸ¤“

lusty tapir
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Hey, I'm trying to use sensors from my 2Gig Alarm... they company used the Honeywell 5800MINI open close sensors... wondering if there instuctions somewhwere to use these in HA

wet remnant
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Iā€™ve been having a lot of problems with sky connect since it arrived, to the point that I think I got a defective unit.
Iā€™ve had zigbee only firmware for a while but the devices would be unresponsive daily and I had to reset it daily to make it work. Iā€™ve moved away from any other usb devices. Recently it was not even getting recognised by home assistant and I had to remove from the usb extension and try different usb ports, and it got recognised but devices are unresponsive. With multipan firmware, the matter extension used to work but now it wonā€™t even initialise the extension. Iā€™ve bought from m.nu and not sure how to proceed. I will try to use it on another device since my odroid c2 could be the problem, but my new board havenā€™t arrived yet.

arctic gull
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quick question, i currently have the sonoff dongle installed and working in z2m, and i have an aqara hub 1E. Can the aqara hub get connected to home assistant, or will is simply having it plugged in and on help build the zigbee mesh network?

pallid prairie
cold moon
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Yea the p dongle is what I have and suggest

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You can look at the skyconnect and zha instead

pallid prairie
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And I guess these would be better for a wall than the round ceiling ones

broken grail
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any recommended power plugs?

lusty tapir
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I just got the sonoff power plugsā€¦ they seem really solid

broken grail
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wifi right?

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oh they have zigbee too

lusty tapir
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SONOFF S31 Lite 15A WiFi Smart Plug ETL Certified, Smart Socket Outlet Timer Switch, Compatible with Alexa & Google Home Assistant, IFTTT Supporting, No Hub Required,2.4 Ghz WiFi Only 4-Pack https://a.co/d/cGypGOJ

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Thatā€™s what I got, I think mine were straight wifi

wind swift
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Good evening, did anyone come across a situation where a rpi4 with ha doesn't recognize anything plugged into the USB ports? I am unable to see any dongles with USB. I have tried an aeotec zwave 7 as well as a home assistant connect dongle...

lusty tapir
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Havenā€™t experienced that

wind swift
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Pulling my hair out šŸ˜‚

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Is this the correct place to ask for help? Or is it more appropriate in a different channel?

cold moon
broken grail
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yeah thats what he recommended too, I'll try it out

cold moon
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You take them apart and flash them with esphome

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Thereā€™s guides how to use a pogo pin thing

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I did it the hard way and soldered onto tiny pads

cold moon
wind swift
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Ty

lusty tapir
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Donā€™t have to flash them, work almost out of the box

winged knoll
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quick question i currently have the

hard moon
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anyone using the sonoff tx ultimate?

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or any other recommendation for smart switches, I have the skyconnect

winged knoll
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If you particularly want Zigbee switches then #zigbee-archived can help, when you tell them what country you're in

hard moon
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Location: UK
Hardware: Skyconnect
Features: Dimming would be nice

winged knoll
weak yew
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Not sure if this belongs in #energy-archived or #hardware-archived but I am searching for a low power usage mini pc/nuc/device that has 8/16GB ram, a cpu good enough for ubuntu server + docker + containers (HA [zigbee], Portainer, Minecraft, and maybe more) Are there any lower power units?

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or is the advice to just run a very tiny low power device for HA, Portainer and applications for HA and then a different one that runs the family minecraft server?

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Not sure what the impact of minecraft is when its in a docker container on a ubuntu server (max 8/10 people)

winged knoll
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You could just run it all on one moderately powerful system though

weak yew
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I think thats the plan yeah

winged knoll
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The history of this channel has a lot of recommendations

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Mostly revolving around tiny PCs and old laptops

weak yew
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Thank you sir, yeah I did read up on those but I just wasn't sure if anyone really runs a minecraft server on that same device together with HA and the rest thats needed for that šŸ˜…

winged knoll
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I do, but my HA runs on a Ryzen 5

weak yew
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Ryzen 5 is very strong

winged knoll
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Between Plex, Minecraft, and Frigate the CPU gets a decent workout

golden thorn
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If you virtualize it properly there should be minimal impact on other things. You can also limit a docker container's resources

weak yew
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I read that on your blog

bitter heron
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I run mine on an OC'd 8700k

hard moon
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<-- old mac mini that was gathering dust

bitter heron
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I run a bunch of other crap like blue iris on it too though

hard moon
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installed linux + docker-engine

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running containerized incase I want to add some other things

weak yew
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I am planning/doing the exact same kneticz

weak yew
lusty tapir
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anyone know how to get the Honeywell 5800Mini window/door sensor connected?

hard moon
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@lusty tapir Are you US? I'm UK

lusty tapir
hard moon
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Our light switches are quite different sadly and it doesnt look like Zooz do any UK ones, cheers anywho

narrow belfry
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Any feedback/recommendations for innr and/or Wooley Zigbee smart plugs please? I have been waiting impatiently for Aqara to offer a UK plug version of their Zigbee smart plugs.

winged knoll
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Innr are known good

vast iris
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Innr work real well here.

pliant forum
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if you have a Honeywell alarm panel you may be able to integrate that (along with the sensors) into HA also

bold rapids
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Hi folks, wheres the best place for a noob to ask about his sky connect/zigbee/matter/thread questions?

stray vessel
#

Hey! I'm trying to figure out how to detect when my landline is ringing and start an automation from there. I've searched the archives of the forum but I didn't find exactly what I was looking for. The closest I've got was this post: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/can-you-use-a-usb-modem-with-hassio/208193/5
I think @javellin managed to do exactly what I need to do, but there's not many info on how it was done.
Can anyone point me in the right direction? What do I need to buy and what configuration will I need to do?

bitter heron
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Man does anyone know of high lumen zwave bulb a19

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Like say 1200 lumen +

remote pilot
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would a reolink e1 zoom be any good for monitoring a small room with a 3d printer? I just wanna be able to see if the spool is going awry remotely

peak talon
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Any camera will be good. I use my old phones with cracked screen but peefect camera to host these kind of scenarios šŸ˜ƒ

cold moon
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There are fun #diy-archived solutions where you make a device that measures the spool

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Itā€™s actually for filament runout type stuff but would work for this too

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A smart filament runout sensor is a better option tho

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But it requires you to compile firmware for marlin to add that functionality which scares away most people

remote pilot
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that's kinda cool actually

soft notch
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any opinions on HA Yellow (complete build) vs rPi 4-64 in an Argon One v2 case?

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it looks like yellow has a PoE model and it's unclear to me how i'd add this to my existing RPi 4

cold moon
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Neither are great options

soft notch
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ok...well i am not going to deal with that tonight, i have a great setup running off rpi w/coral. i am starting to recognize limitations due mostly to usb, but going to stick with rpi-based installs for now

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but was curious if yellow was any better bc i would like PoE + better fan control than argon has

cold moon
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Yellow is just a custom pcb for a cm4 which has same specs and limitations as a pi4

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Plus built in zigbee/thread

soft notch
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ahh ok thanks! that all makes sense then

cold moon
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Best solution is get a mini pc nuc etc

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Decent actual hardware

soft notch
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absolutely.

cold moon
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M910q lenovo on eBay are popular

soft notch
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the usb bus on the rpi is shit and it's just ridiculous having one usb device render another one offline

cold moon
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Otherwise used laptops work great and are cheap with a broken screen

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Other suggestions there

soft notch
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yeah. i started out making the mistake of trying to do this on a mac, and that led me eventually to a dell nuc, then rpi. and rpi just...worked, all the time

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but i'll check out that lenovo this summer. thank you!

cold moon
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Nuc shouldnā€™t have had any issues

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Unless it was hardware related

tacit burrow
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I love my M910q's

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I have two, each with proxmox, my prod + nonprod hosts

jagged crypt
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lyricnz, we need to get kickbacks on those šŸ™‚

plush smelt
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hey guys, this is going to be a super weird question but

does anyone know of an air con remote that looks and feels like an air con remote (i.e. has a little screen, temperature buttons, mode button, fan speed options etc), but is actually a remote that connects fully to HA and doesn't have an IR blaster on the end of it?

remote pilot
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that's a tall ask hah

plush smelt
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the reason i'm asking is because long story short i want to get my aircons into HA with something local - probably a broadlink - but we have a lot of family and friends who aren't tech savvy and would prefer to use a physical remote

the problem with broadlink is that if you use the physical remote, then HA is out of sync, and if you use HA then the physical remote is out of sync

remote pilot
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I think you'd need some kind of wired or wireless module for the air handler to communicate with the screen thing at the very minimum

plush smelt
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but if there was a physical remote that ONLY spoke to HA, then i could "control" the broadlink through HA and have all updates happening live without any sync issues

remote pilot
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for mine I saw this project

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it can see the remote commands and then relay it so you'd have the right state

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I didn't actually set it up but it sounded promising

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it's kinda like get what ever solution you want and then put this in between to relay and have integration

plush smelt
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i'll check it out - i was hoping for a complete unit since i'm not very handy and have never done anything diy with boards before, and don't have a nice way to make everything look like a nice once it's all put together (no 3d printer or anything)

plush smelt
remote pilot
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I guess the IR blaster for the mitsubishi's actually send back info to the remote at least

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not sure how that works if you send a command to HA ... I don't expect the remote to refresh

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I haven't DIY'd that either. part of it seems to involve light soldering so I am avoiding looking further for now lol

plush smelt
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that's fair šŸ˜›

vivid relic
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Recently a solar boiler is placed in my house. Solar boiler is being monitored by a Nefit logamatic sc20/2. This Nefit doesnt have any wifi or networking builtin.
This system does use 3 temperature probes, and I would like to monitor the boiler temp. Would it be possible to split the temperature probe, and connect one end to a Sonoff TH16? Or doesnt it work that way?

burnt heart
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Hey šŸ‘‹
Hope this is the right spot: does anyone know about a wireless data transfer wich is good for transferring data through Steel reinforced concrete?
I already tried wifi boosters/repeaters but the signal reaching the main power terminal is too weak. I have no socket near the point where I need to measure the 3 phase household connection. So DLAN is not an option.

winged knoll
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LoRa may work

buoyant tartan
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Can anyone telll me what voltage to set my network switch port to for my POE Home Assitant Yellow? The options on my network switch for the ports are 24 or 48V and I cannot seem to find any documentation that states max input voltage to the board. I dont want to risk frying the board!!

winged knoll
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PoE+ IEEE 802.3at-2009 Class 3 or 4

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It's possible your switch is af, or even passive PoE

lofty wave
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Anyone ever get an Aqara mini switch to work with HA? For reference my zigbee antenna is a Hubitat which complicates things.

cold moon
#

tinkerer a while back you said you would ask "the council" about adding embed support for plebs in this channel to match what we can do in #diy-archived when sharing hardware links, pictures of hardware, etc. did "the council" vote nay so no go for us?

winged knoll
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I think it was mostly met with ambivalence - nobody felt strongly in favour of enabling it

cold moon
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Sadcat

wanton aurora
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@trim imp moving this here since your question is hardware related. LifX bulbs aren't zigbee so you can't pair them directly. However, any zigbee switch should be able to net you what you need. You shouldn't need the switch to control the power for the bulb, that would be counterintuitive. You can program the switch to be a simple on/off switch for it though. You can even add double and triple taps for additional scene control.

trim imp
# wanton aurora <@211334085073829888> moving this here since your question is hardware related. ...

So any zigbee switch (replacing the standard wall switch) should be able to control the bulbs. I have everything brought into home assistant via smartthings. I need the ablity to change out the wall switch. I have put up buttons but the person my house just cant wrap their head around them and keeps getting upset that they cant just (use a stupid lightswitch like normal.) so that is what i am trying to fix.

wanton aurora
# trim imp So any zigbee switch (replacing the standard wall switch) should be able to cont...

I get that. My SO prefers regular switches and doesn't want anything different. I'm not well versed in SmartThings. However, in theory you should be able to buy a compatible physical zigbee switch, replace the dumb one, integrate it, and then create an automation in HA to the tune of something like: If top button on switch pushed, turn on lifx bulb. Visa versa for the down button. Most switches are momentary paddle (decora) switches that don't physically click up/down. However, there are other options available.

trim imp
wanton aurora
#

They do make toggle switches, too. Not sure what you have now but I'm transitioning from toggle to monetary switches. I like Inovelli's products personally (they don't have toggle switches).

trim imp
lament portal
#

Anyone know of any brilliant style touchscreens or scene controllers that can go in one of the switch spots in a multi-gang box that works smoothly with HA?

trim imp
wanton aurora
trim imp
wanton aurora
#

Nice! I pre-ordered the Red 2-1 Switches (Im running all Z-Wave)

trim imp
#

I am mostly zigbee with a small amount of zwave

cold moon
#

those are a long ways away

wanton aurora
#

Named Project Linus
Linus disagrees with the project name xD

trim imp
#

HAHA. O what vidwo of him and the switches was great he was upset lol.

wanton aurora
#

I would want them though and would consider switching.

trim imp
#

They would not work for me as my basement is divided into two part and my light switch is in the other part but it would work good for other rooms.

cold moon
#

well ltt is an idiot so anything he says doesnt matter

distant path
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Anyone have experience with making dumb devices smart? I have a Medify Air purifier that has no remote or smart controls. Wondering if itā€™s possible to use an esp or relay to integrate it. Would love full control, but would be happy just to have power and fan speed.

wanton aurora
#

@distant path you'll likely need to tear it apart and get to the buttons and rewire them to work with the device and the ESP/relay.

distant path
wanton aurora
distant path
#

Hmm, the relays Iā€™m looking at have z-wave/Wi-Fi. Am I looking at the wrong thing? This will be my first go at custom devices. Only thing Iā€™ve done so far is a relay for a garage door and a homemade humid sensor using an esp32, but I followed a full tutorial for that. So please excuse me if Iā€™m asking stupid questions.

fringe crater
#

an esp is a common way to drive a relay, but you could get a different device like a zwave device to control it as well.

wanton aurora
#

That's true. Something like a Zooz Relay Module would also work.

distant path
#

Thank you both for the help by the way.

fringe crater
#

they're cheap šŸ˜

wanton aurora
#

Realistically? Expandability to add sensors if you want and they're cheap.

distant path
fringe crater
#

Zooz needs 120V to power I think?

#

What device specifically were you looking to buy?

wanton aurora
#

The zooz devices would need wall power. So would an ESP if you don't add a battery to it. You might be able to jump power from the device itself if it carries 5V but I wouldn't recommend that at all.

distant path
distant path
fringe crater
#

Well I'm assuming if you're mucking around inside another device there may be low voltage power near the control circuitry to tap off of.

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I don't think they run 120V to the soft buttons on the front šŸ™‚

wanton aurora
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If the 5v rail only supports so much power, it might cause issues, no? (If it existed)

fringe crater
#

possibly. though even if you run separate power you can get a 5V wall wart and run it from that. I don't think you want to be touching mains voltage at all, so I would not recommend trying to stuff a 120V relay inside of something.

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Shelly Uni might be another good option.

distant path
#

Iā€™ll take a look at that. Iā€™ll keep you guys updated. Thanks again!

distant path
unreal star
#

Hi is there any device that is dedicated for HA OS?

winged knoll
#

To run HAOS on?

#

There's the Blue and the Yellow if you want some thing "official", but they're not special

earnest tusk
unreal star
winged knoll
#

A Pi4 is likely just enough

#

That's what the Yellow is at heart

earnest tusk
#

is any one play with the 72ghz mmware radar?

winged knoll
earnest tusk
#

we just found hilink has release a new moudule, called ld-7903a

earnest tusk
#

i use an tv box with s905l3a chip,come by 2g ram, 16g flash.use the armbian system,which can install ha supervisor very fine.

winged knoll
#

Just keep in mind that Supervised is only supported on Debian itself... on anything else you're setting yourself up for pain

gloomy spoke
#

you're setting yourself up for pain

#

fixed

earnest tusk
winged knoll
#

Armbian isn't Debian šŸ˜‰

sour lily
#

Does anyone use TreatLife for a ceiling fan?

gusty onyx
#

I have Sonos speakers & google display/speakers, what is the best way to group these, so that i can select speakers and play music on them.

civic kraken
#

What are you trying to achieve?

gusty onyx
#

just basically play just the living room speakers or possibly every speaker and use the tablet app tahts either in my hallway or kitchen

#

is that possible?

#

also how do i achieve of HA recognizing my samsung tablet as a media player so that i create a button on my dashboard to open the app such as spotify or youtube music?

#

or should I just use Music Assistant?

civic kraken
#

There might be some app that would allow you to do that but I don't think you can have that access by default. Also be mindful that grouping multiple different audio devices will run into huge delay issues

#

The way Google Cast works is that it compensates for the delay but once you add non-cast devices those will be all out of whack

gusty onyx
#

aaah i see

#

no intergration with my google speakers/hub and sonos speakers then huh.... i just want to play music and control it with HA thats all

#

lol

civic kraken
#

You can group media players but it might not work perfectly because of the delay problem. https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/group/
`# Example configuration.yaml entry
media_player:

  • platform: group
    entities:
    • media_player.kitchen_tv
    • media_player.living_room_tv`
gusty onyx
#

i'll browser thru reddit/ HA community and youtube

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or stick to my old way hey google play this song

civic kraken
#

I would suggest browsing through the documentation first. It covers most things

copper juniper
#

6500t really works well

tardy cradle
#

Hey, hopefully someone can help out. I'm setting up a new environment using a Lenovo m700 Tiny and a SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2 (E-version).

Running Proxmox, running HASS-OS, a LXC for zigbee2mqtt and one LXC as Mosquitto Broker.

I can find my dongle just fine,

root@XXXX:~# lsusb Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1a86:55d4 QinHeng Electronics SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2

But when I'm trying to get the correct ID and Location, to insert into configs etc, this is all that I get,

ls -l /dev/serial/by-id gives me the following. ls: cannot access '/dev/serial/by-id': No such file or directory

Not sure what I'm dealing with here actually. I've heard some say it could be not using a extension cable or running the Dongle in a USB 3.0 port.
All I need is to set up a passthrough. I've tried to run the LXC as Privileged but still not luck.

cobalt trench
#

anyone have any good recommendations for a humidifier(ish) with native support?

peak talon
earnest tusk
tardy cradle
burnt heart
gentle fossil
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I think you will get more joy out of it by buying a esp32 board with lora or at least a arduino compatible one

dusk otter
#

Hi, i'm searching for a light switch, which works with zigbee. I have an rather cheap smart light installed and want a switch that can toggle the light light through homeassistant and not cut power to the device, because the brightness resets everytime. It should fit into a German light switch hole.
If someone has a good idea what i could use, i would be very thankful.

peak talon
weak yew
#

Is there a guide on where to place temp sensors? like a temp sensor from Aqara?

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Does it need to be in the shadow a 100%? high in a room or does that not matter?

#

if its a big room in the middle? I cant really find any guides on that

winged knoll
#

Any temperature sensor measures the temperature where you put it

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If you put it at the ceiling then it'll read warmer than what it'll read at head height, or waist height

weak yew
#

Gotcha, just want the average of the room. The feel temp so waist height in a shadow.

winged knoll
#

Not in direct sunlight, away from any vents or heaters

weak yew
#

Makes sense

winged knoll
#

I'd put it about chest height, it's probably about right

tardy cradle
weak yew
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I haven't bought the aqara temp sensors yet as I have been reading sorta 'bad' reviews on it

winged knoll
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I've got a bunch, they're fine - no more or less accurate than any other I've bought

weak yew
#

The biggest complaint I've read is that the temp needs to change a lot before it really changes in the Home Assistant? Same with the humidity?

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only updates after a big change of temp/humidity.

winged knoll
#

Temperature

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weak yew
#

that looks perfect

winged knoll
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Humidity

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weak yew
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welp you took away my doubts ill just take this then

severe ridge
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Hope this is the right place for this. Can't find any info in a search. If not, apologies and let me know how to do it correctly. Does anyone know the max number of devices the Sky Connect device will allow? I know the Conbee and Sonoff do 200 I think? At least 200 non-battery. I assume this is similar, but couldn't find concrete evidence.

winged knoll
rocky trail
#

random question... does anyone have a starling home hub? friend of mine has a whole nest secure system he was looking to replace because monitoring is going away. does the starling communicate with all nest products locally, not using cloud?

winter thorn
#

I've got an issue with installing an NVMe on HA yellow. I've tried a Crucial SSD which I found was not compatible. Then got a Samsung 970 evo plus that was recommended on the Yellow website. That doesn't work either. The green and red lights stay on solid and it doesn't boot. Has anyone had a similar experience please, or any solutions? Thanks

gusty onyx
#

Who has a meross garage ms100

obtuse tree
#

Hey all, does anyone know if you can increase the brightness of the back light on the RF sonoff light switches?

turbid hatch
#

I'm having a hard time getting my USB to RS485 stick talking modbus to my heat pump. It kind of works sometimes, but quickly stops working. My logs are full of:
Cleanup recv buffer before send and Received 2 bytes, unpack error unpack requires a buffer of 1 bytes - I'm using the built-in Modbus integration. What am I doing wrong?

brave summit
#

Newbee question: I have a thermostat radiator valve TRV_TZE200_b6wax7g0. The device has a temp_max set to 300 and I want to set it as 30. You cannot set it through Lovelace Card (the value is not exposed) but clearly listed in the developper setting state. How can I change this value, where should I start to search (I already spent a lot of time ...) any hint ?

weak yew
pallid brook
#

my HA stopped recognizing my bluetooth adapter. any tips for how to debug it?

winged knoll
arctic gull
#

i have a succesful installment of HAOS on a laptop setup with ethernet through a router in bridged mode, which has worked pretty much flawlessly. I then placed the setup down in the basement which was the intended place for the HAOS to be run from, but access to the url and dashboard/devices tab and everything else is super slow and just keeps loading. Is this possible to fix or is it doomed because of connection interference etc.?

modern palm
#

Hi there, just bought a Ikea Symfonisk remote control (Gen2, or Type E2123) - the IKEA manual says i need to press the pairing btn for 10 secs to get it into pairing, but nothing happens, just if i do 5 fast taps on the pairing button the red light blinks and ZHA is able to find it through my dongle.
Normally these switches show button fire events when i press some, but not on that remote, which seems to make it not usable by automations to control my media players. anyone knows a solution for me?

jagged crypt
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@modern palm I've only used the round 5-button, and the square one (Tradfri and Styrbar). Both had documentation that said long press, but 5-6 fast tapes put them in pairing mode. I have not had any issues with ZHA showing the button presses:
Tradfri 02 Remote Button Short Press - Turn On event was fired
6:29:10 PM - 11 seconds ago

modern palm
#

I compared to my other normal Tradfri switches, i still see the events at them. Also get no battery state (for sure i used new full batteries)

jagged crypt
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linked page from there seems to say upgrade to 2023.4.0 or better and see if it works

cold moon
#

Or rejoin it maybe it didnā€™t pair right

remote pilot
#

oh I have that remote paired up

#

using Z2M though, but the reset was mash the reset button 4x or so

cold moon
#

I much prefer z2mā€™s approach over zha events

#

Overly complicated for what should be simple button presses etc

modern palm
#

I'm at 2023.4.1 and also did a reboot, also paired the remote again, sadly changed nothing.
z2m could be an option, but i'm not into it yet and don't know yet what to configure and how to set it up, but will take a look tomorrow. thanks for those tips!

cold moon
#

Use the one you need on that site

#

Super easy way to use ikea hue etc remotes in hass

jagged crypt
#

firmware updates on the unit? I assume you aren't seeing the events in the logbook

modern palm
jagged crypt
#

may still be able to do firmware update if it's paired and it's visible, no?

modern palm
modern palm
cold moon
#

Ya I understand

raw grotto
#

Hello everyone! Not completely new to smart homes, but new to switching dimming hardware. Is it possible to turn off the line dimming of dimmable switches, but use the button command instead for, say, hue bulbs to fire brightness up and down?

rocky trail
#

Yes. Zooz zwave and innovelli zigbee switches can do that, among others probably

#

They call it smart bulb mode

jagged crypt
#

@modern palm i've already had ZHA do the ikea firmware updates for other remotes, no problem, minus the battery consumption

remote pilot
#

the symfonisk gen2 takes like 6 hours to update

raw grotto
#

@rocky trail thank you šŸ™‚

pallid prairie
#

How long has inovelli been around? Do we trust their production timeline?

#

They say switches ship this month, and the fan switch too

cold moon
modern palm
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@remote pilot @jagged crypt thx, it seems the problem has solved itself šŸ˜„
took the remote, pressed a buttn, and the automation worked. seems it needed hours to check in on my home assistant: "IKEA of Sweden SYMFONISK sound remote gen2 Checkin event was fired"

quasi coral
#

Does anyone know how to adjust the PoE+ Pi Hat's fan while using HA OS?

jovial zephyr
#

Hey guys - does anyone measure water flow/throughput? What are you using for it?

ripe ridge
#

Hey guys, can somebody explain to me how i can "calibrate" a nedis radiator valve? I have 2 identical of this valves and one shows me a temperature about 2C higher than the other. Is there a posibility to manipulate this value? Thank you very much! ... i Found this {"local_temperature_calibration": -1,7} but to be honest i dont know how to enter this in zigbee2mqtt :/

safe geyser
#

Can someone recommend a smart in-wall outlet for the European market that would work well with home assistant?

still carbon
#

Anyone have experience with reverse engineering protocols using logic analyzers?

fringe crater
wind vale
#

Is anyone using load cells and hx711 or similar for heavy things? I have a pellets hopper that can get to maybe 750kg, unsure how to approach it, found a guide for a kitchen digital scale for a few kg, also seen a single load cell for propane tanks etc. Don't need closer than nearest 1kg accuracy, ty

tiny palm
#

Safe to upgrade to DSM 7 with Sonoff & Aeotec usb stick? Running in docker.

winged knoll
#

No

broken grail
#

is there anyone who has ever automated opening a door? I'm sick and tired of my dog begging to go in and out every 30 seconds

#

trying to think what you'd even use for something like that

still carbon
stiff prawn
#

Anyone have experience integrating into Wayne's HALO75 sump pump? Looks like both Bluetooth and WiFi. Haven't purchased yet, but looks potentially promising as an all-in-one solution to monitor sump pump functionality. Apologies if this is the wrong channel for device questions.
https://www.waynepumps.com/product/basement-guardian-halo/

still carbon
pallid prairie
#

Why is neutral wiring so important

remote pilot
#

so you can keep the switch powered even if the switch cuts off power to the light

#

you can imagine the switch cutting off power from between line and load but still maintain power between line and neutral for itself

#

the "no neutral" stuff has to keep power to the load but reduce it down so low that the load doesn't actually light up... seems horrible for the energy efficient stuff really

pallid prairie
#

Oh thanks @remote pilot super informative

wind vale
#

Usually you have them for people with reduced mobility or strength, to open doors, normally by pressing a button.

remote lark
unreal star
#

Hi do you guys think Orange Pi 5 will handle motioneye?

safe geyser
#

Cheers all! Can someone recommend a smart in-wall outlet for the European market that would work well with home assistant? Thanks!

pallid prairie
#

Has anyone used the Amazon basic smart locks

quasi coral
proper frost
#

Can anyone recommend good ZigBee smoke detectors? I am In Germany if that matters

digital gale
#

Does anyone know any robo vaccums that work with home assistant and can clean thicker carpets well?

broken grail
pallid prairie
#

What about speakers, what do you recommend for speakers

civic kraken
#

Speakers, smart speakers or smart assistants?

pallid prairie
#

Well. I like Alexa, even if that's a sin. But I mean more like a Sonos type thing

#

Speakers in the ceiling or something for the shared spaces

civic kraken
#

Sonos and their Ikea stuff are fairly popular I've seen. Key is to pick one standard and stick to it

pallid prairie
#

I like Alexa for voice commands, but not much else.

#

And honestly with home assistant she may be obsolete

civic kraken
#

If you can find used Chromecast Audio devices in your area for cheap they are great for smartifying your existing speakers

#

But Google killed those years ago so...

pallid prairie
#

Ah

#

I don't have any dumb speakers

#

But I'd love something in the bathroom and kitchen so I cam listen to podcasts and stuff

#

I'll check ikea out and sonos

civic kraken
#

Then Sonos or the Ikea stuff could be the choice for you. I've rarely seen anything else recommended

pallid prairie
#

Thanks

modern palm
#

Another thing is Volumio, nice controllable with home assistant. Using it on raspberries with hifiberry amp2 and jbl control one

digital gale
#

what is a good touchscreen interface i can install into my house to manage my home assistant

swift mirage
#

Hello I received my HA yellow today and had is ready to set up, however Im not able to install HA os on my NVMe Crucial P2 ssd

cold moon
swift mirage
#

I didnt see it thenx

cold moon
#

Also rip you in advance

swift mirage
#

why is that

cold moon
#

Eventually you will wish you bought more performant hardware and feel like Michael Scott in your profile

#

Cool idea, pi4/cm4 just canā€™t handle everything you throw at it like mini pcs etc can

#

You can still resell it to another poor soul eventually lol

swift mirage
#

I dont have many hardware around few switches here and there. dont new a power house for it

remote pilot
#

just don't overkill the hardware or maybe overkill it and use VMs

#

otherwise you end up with too much hardware for HA even with addons

gray hearth
#

Not sure if this question needs to be in this channel or integrationsā€¦ in my current HA instance I have my BT controller via my RPi4 and a few months ago added a usb BT but did not disable the one in the Pi. For months they worked together just fine but starting with 2023.3 the integration stopped recognizing the usb one. I physically removed it, restarted my Pi and therefore HA and then installed it again. HA found it but then couldnā€™t find the one in the Pi (says it cannot find the MAC address). I cannot find anything that says you canā€™t have both at the same time, can anyone confirm if this is expected or why I only started having the problem a month ago?

pallid prairie
#

How do those samsung fridges with the displays in them play with home assistant

#

This is a little more down the road but I was at home depot and it seemed neat

broken grail
#

I'm thinking of using mine as a linux server for other things

remote pilot
#

I think it's okay really. my HA doesn't take up that many resources. but you'll definitely want to run hardware that has virtualization (I only say this because mine doesn't support it)

broken grail
#

I bought a pretty powerful nuc, it has 8 cores with a load average of 2 atm, and 10m free out of 15 so I might be able to use it for a few other things

remote pilot
#

yeah for sure

jagged crypt
broken grail
#

does ha run as well in a VM?

golden thorn
#

Of course

cold moon
#

You will absolutely be limited by pcie lanes on a nuc

golden thorn
cold moon
#

And best case you still lose your server and your smart home with hardware failure maintenance etc

broken grail
#

10MB ram

#

free out of 15

#

yeah I just looked and this NUC isn't powerful enough anyways for the plex server so it wouldn't work anyways

cold moon
#

Gigs not megs

cold moon
broken grail
#

right

cold moon
#

New gen intel cpus with quicksync are good

broken grail
# 
4K HDR (50Mbps, 10-bit HEVC) file: 17000 PassMark score (being transcoded to 10Mbps 1080p)
4K SDR (40Mbps, 8-bit HEVC) file: 12000 PassMark score (being transcoded to 10Mbps 1080p)
1080p (10Mbps, H.264) file: 2000 PassMark score
720p (4Mbps, H.264) file: 1500 PassMark score

This passthrough score is 9000

#

passmark*

cold moon
#

Now lookup what the quicksync on that cpu can handle

broken grail
#

ok

#

9,974 is the cpu mark, not sure how to find the quicksync

jagged crypt
#

what clients are your streaming to? the 4k sticks don't need transcoding for pretty much anything

#

if you are watching crap on your phone, i can't help you

broken grail
#

right now just a web os lgtv

#

lgtv with webos

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lg TV c2

jagged crypt
#

$40 gets you roku 4k stick or amazon 4k stick, etc, and streams 264 and 265 without issues (i use a roku ultra, but that was to ensure i had an ethernet jack)

broken grail
#

sorry lgc1

jagged crypt
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i have a b9 (2019), but don't use the smarttv apps

broken grail
#

The issue is I don't have any hard drives, and from what I understand you want to have storage with a plex server for a lot of things

#

so I was looking at building a truenas

jagged crypt
#

you are running a plex server because your media is stored locally that you want to play

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"locally" on your lan

#

doesn't have to be on the same machine

broken grail
#

right, I don't have any local storage really

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which is why I was looking at trueNAS scale and building something

jagged crypt
#

so no need for a plex server šŸ™‚

broken grail
#

Yeah I think I'll run plex server on the nas

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in a container or something

#

so I can either build the truenas to be a badass transcoding server too and run plex on it, or I can build it kinda meh and just run plex on HA or it without tc

#

(on the ha nuc)

jagged crypt
#

sounds like your are just building to build (for a hobby) vs building with an intention of using

#

if that's the case, you're going to be installing it multiple times, so go ahead and try it each way and see how it works

broken grail
#

well the main thing I want is to have tv/movies fully controlled by siri, highest quality video, able to stream to multiple tvs simultaneously, etc...

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I don't really care about storing video but apparently downloaded video 4k is better than streamed?

weak yew
#

Controlling anything with siri is annoying enough brother

#

At least I never got siri reacting or responding correctly to me. Might be a me issue

round bone
#

What is recommended new hardware dedicated to run only HA? It needs to have sockets to plug dongles etc.

  • apple / google integration

  • Thread

  • Matter

  • Ethernet

  • wifi

  • 50 devices

  • maybe Zigbee if Thread will not have devices which I want

  • maybe 433 / 868 Mhz

  • maybe I prefer to run HA inside docker

Small size.

#

I am totally not in the topic of mini PCs etc. I don't know which devices are good or bad.

pliant forum
peak talon
cold moon
#

Oh mr. Cloud ā˜ļø is in the house

remote pilot
#

not a fan of irregular PSUs but I guess it's nice

pallid prairie
#

If I got a rack server with a few hdds in say raid 10, and installed Ubuntu, and used docker to run ha, zigbee, frigate, that would make sense right?

remote pilot
#

why raid 10?

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I'd probably run some dedicated NAS software on it rather than ubuntu. and use HAOS on a VM instead of docker

#

though you could do docker for other stuff too

pallid prairie
#

For backup and speed

remote pilot
#

raid isn't a back up solution.. but I just mean, hardware raid vs software file systems

pallid prairie
#

You wouldn't want hardware backup in a system involving cameras and a lot of rw

cold moon
#

That would work fine but itā€™s more the 2009 approach not 2023

remote pilot
#

it's redundant yes but not a back up

#

you want data integrity in a NAS

cold moon
#

These days people use a NAS/server hypervisor combo like truenas scale, unraid, etc

remote pilot
#

but for an actual back up you want copies (elsewhere)

#

but yeah truenas or unraid is pretty popular for running a home server thing nowadays

#

the single point of failure never sat right with me personally but shrug

pallid prairie
#

Am I old and out of date now?

cold moon
#

Well Iā€™m not suggesting he put hass on his server

remote pilot
#

lol I mean it's an option

cold moon
#

Or network on his server

#

Or cameras

#

Storage sure, frigate sure

remote pilot
#

but yeah I'd prefer to have separate hardware that's a bit dedicated for each of the things

#

mhm makes sense

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*each of the more critical things

cold moon
#

Proxmox and clustering is cool itā€™s just overkill for home production

remote pilot
#

definitely

cold moon
remote pilot
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lol it's okay. it's kinda like there are HDDs that would make it possible for me to expand to 100s of TBs of storage now. but I'm still "stuck" on using my old 4TB drives

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I built the NAS for fun but really I don't necessarily need so much storage

cold moon
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Hass runs great in a vm or in a container on a server I just like them separate

pallid prairie
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I should see if I still have that Nas at my office

cold moon
cold moon
pallid prairie
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So you're saying it's better to get 3 mini pc than 1 server running all through dockers

cold moon
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No

remote pilot
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yeah unraid is a nice looking storage thing. I went to truenas back when I set it up though lol

cold moon
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Iā€™m saying if you make a server and everything lives on it you lose everything with hardware failure, maintenance, etc

remote pilot
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1 server + mini pc for this and one for that etc šŸ˜„

cold moon
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However if you want to cluster 3 go for it

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But the one using zigbee zwave etc dongles canā€™t die or you lose those meshes

pallid prairie
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What failure is more common than drive storage

cold moon
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Probably ram

remote pilot
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power supply lol

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or power

pallid prairie
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I could replace ram or a psu in a few mins

remote pilot
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get a UPS!

pallid prairie
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I could even fix a psu