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pliant forum
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It's new of course lol

plush hatch
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Right now i have door and motion wyze sensors but as the batteries die the sensors also do so i will need to re do it all.

cold moon
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What all are you wanting? Smart bulbs? Smart switches? Dimmers? Bulbs and smart switches? Do you require stuff like light switches and motion sensors to work if home assistant is offline?

pliant forum
cold moon
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Idk about those lol

plush hatch
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i will be doing motion, and body, door and maybe temp if possible.

pliant forum
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Do you have a security system by chance? You may be able to reuse the sensors from that if you do.

copper juniper
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radar?

plush hatch
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i have switches and dimmer switches and bulbs.

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i think they are all running tasmoto

pliant forum
plush hatch
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@pliant forum no i do not

pliant forum
pliant forum
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You will need to get a zwave or zigbee usb though to use it

cold moon
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The zse40 is worse than a hue sensor in every way but it does include humidity

pliant forum
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in that case it is Zwave

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^ Hue is like the gold standard of Zigbee stuff.. if you're willing to spend the money i'd go with them

plush hatch
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cool thanks i will do some more research and see what i can come up with.

pliant forum
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Also take a look at the Aqara FP1

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it's a mmwave motion sensor

plush hatch
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I currently run a pi but i am looking at running it on my server in a container but i have to see if the container is a limited as it was back in the day.

pliant forum
plush hatch
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@pliant forum no

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but i will

pliant forum
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I run Home Assistant inside of Proxmox and have no issues.

cold moon
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Iā€™m a fan of separating hass from my server

copper juniper
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proxmox is great for consolidating machines

plush hatch
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@pliant forum look's a lot like a container or VM environment.

pliant forum
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Proxmox is an amazing piece of software

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it can all be managed from the web interface

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(for the most part)

plush hatch
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i currently run docker and hyper V

pliant forum
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Proxmox is based on Debian so docker should work fine

plush hatch
pliant forum
plush hatch
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@pliant forumthats worth a read thanks!

pliant forum
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Some key features are that it has Bluetooth tracking (for phones, watches etc) a temp and humidity sensor, light sensor and mmwave sensor

plush hatch
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all in one

pliant forum
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yep

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downside is that it's out of stock haha

plush hatch
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@pliant forumya for a long time lol

copper juniper
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just can't win eh

pliant forum
plush hatch
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@pliant forumi will thanks for all the help. I have a lot to look at now. Thanks for the head start!

pliant forum
winged sonnet
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Hi, anybody know what the update/refresh interval is for the Switchbot mini plug power use sensor is? Using it via Bluetooth in HA.

proven girder
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Hey all, looking for good smart light switches (1/3 gang really), in Australia, budget is whatever presuming they're good, preferably zigbee but would take wifi too
I can't seem to find anything thats actually decent. Other option is get generic button style light switches and have shellys toggle in the wall

cold moon
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1/3 gang?

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what kinda back asswards aussie shit is that

proven girder
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The / means or

cold moon
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ah

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carry on

proven girder
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I only have single switches or a single 3 switch in this place lol

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And a nice looking reputable option (lifx) only come in 2 or 4 lol

cold moon
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lifx wifi tho yea?

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if you're gonna go wifi why not try a sonoff nspanel

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would that fit?

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i think they have a neat look to them

proven girder
cold moon
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ah

next sun
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Anyone ever used the WiFi door/window sensors?

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Looking for some door sensors and seeing what is available. Wondering whether to stick with Zigbee, move to Z Wave or to go WiFi. I really like the Z Wave recessed door contacts.. but they're like Ā£35 each and I have a lot of doors to cover lol

zealous dune
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WiFi is too slow for door sensors if we're talking battery powered

tidal bridge
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Probably any bluetooth might be good. I would prefer something more open though

dusk sun
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Did anyone have problems with Aqara door & window sensors losing connectivity? I have 2, one of which loses connectivity every 2 days or so.. šŸ¤”

winged knoll
unique kernel
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Does someone know if the yellow supports a pcie 4.0 ssd?

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or what the max speed over the M.2 slot and with the CM4 is

next sun
agile olive
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hi! any suggestion on a weather station to use with Home Assistant? I don't need anything very fancy, I just need to have reliable temperature, humidity, wind speed, etc, the basics and not very expensive if possible. One of the main features is the good integration with HA, of course. Thanks! EDIT: I would like to get rain sensor, I forgot to say that. Also, it can be connected via wifi or zigbee

unique lantern
next sun
tidal bridge
# next sun Why BLE over WiFi, out of interest?

Unattended devices, easier to extend ā€˜rangeā€™ and uh it does not need much brains to function compared to wifi

Ble proxy gets passive scan of sensors and report back to mothership šŸ™‚

tidal bridge
unique lantern
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Zigbee, Z-Wave, or BLE are all good choices for battery powered devices

tidal bridge
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With Wifi you would want some open device which is hard to come by

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That would usually limit to whatever tasmota or esphome supports

visual lintel
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I am wondering:

  1. Is there something similar to the Aqara ecosystem (i.e. Zigbee sensors and controls) in terms of price?
  2. All Aqara products list "Aqara hub required" - does HA work as a hub here too?
  3. The, what I am assuming is the newer lineup of products (e.g. https://www.amazon.de/Radiator-Thermostat-Requires-Compatible-Assistant/dp/B0B6DTSGSJ), seems to require a "Aqara Zigbee 3.0 Hub" - again, does HA work?
  4. Can anyone explain to me what v1 and v2 is referring to in this integration guide: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/xiaomi_aqara/
    There is am M1S Gen 2 https://www.amazon.de/Central-Automation-Wireless-Supports-Assistant/dp/B09VNV27P1
    And an M2 https://www.amazon.de/Infrared-Control-Automation-Compatible-Assistant/dp/B08Y1PJZZH
  5. Do you have any concerns regarding Aqara being Xiaomi/Chinese owned? Does it really all run locally if I connect it to HA instead of the Aqara hub?
My budget is low - we are talking at max 400 EUR/USD for everything in my smart home (student).
I strongly prefer Zigbee (Even though I don't own any devices yet that would dictate that)
I am preferably looking for an easy to enter ecosystem/products```
winged knoll
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  1. yes
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Don't buy any hub

next sun
winged knoll
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Easy...

tidal bridge
winged knoll
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Do you want to be locked in to a manufacturer?

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Do you only want to use what they want, and maybe be reliant on their cloud service?

next sun
outer knotBOT
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@next sun When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

winged knoll
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Sure, you can buy network connected coordinators for #zigbee-archived if that's what you want

next sun
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šŸ‘

unique kernel
next sun
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Presumably it's possible to create your own too, with a USB dongle and a RPi?

next sun
glossy prism
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Sure, if you run zigbee2mqtt on that Pi then it would be easy

winged knoll
winged sonnet
agile olive
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thanks @winged sonnet I saw one from Sainlogic. From what I see, it's same thing, just different brands

next sun
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Found an old Sonoff Basic in a drawer.. was going to use it instead of buying a shelly 1 - to control the garage lights. Do we still flash them? Or does the native integration work? I've looked at HASS-sonoff-ewelink custom component, but it doesn't seem to work for me.

visual pelican
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Does anyone have any experience with YoLink devices? Iā€™m wondering how well it works and is the connection between the device and the hub reliable? Apparently YoLink requires its own hub to work with devices like door-window sensors.

verbal geyser
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Does anyone have a reccomendation for a 20-30$ ZigBee hub or USB stick? I'm looking into getting one, but I'm not sure what to go with

cold moon
light karma
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Anyone know of any smart switches that can be powered by AC mains, but just provide control buttons? ie don't actually turn on and off mains (or is configurable)

cold moon
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Sure any smart switches with smart bulb mode

pliant forum
light karma
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Awesome, so smart bulb mode or scene controller type keywords?

cold moon
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no

light karma
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That zooz one looks awesome, but I don't have any zwave stuff right now

cold moon
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the scene controller is one example

light karma
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gotcha

cold moon
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most zooz switches have smart bulb mode

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i use zen71 and zen76

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there are zigbee ones too, they just need to have a smart bulb mode or similarly named thing to NOT toggle the relay when pressing buttons

light karma
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Yeah, and that's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for. I knew it had to exist, but my google-fu was weak

pliant forum
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Not a scene controller though, itā€™s just one paddle with multi tap abilities

light karma
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Yeah I was looking at that - it looks amazing (the rgb status indicator is pretty cool), but I don't think I can swing the $50 price tag for a handful of them. I might just get a zwave radio for my HA vm

pliant forum
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Yeah, that website I sent the scene controller from should carry a couple of models of zwave sticks for pretty reasonable prices.

cold moon
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Well thereā€™s a 700 series stick or the new 800 series

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800 series has basic functionality working with zwave js but itā€™s not working with nvm backup or restore yet

pliant forum
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Iā€™d go 700 series for stability and 800 if you want cutting edge

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800 also has zwave long range which may come in handy

cold moon
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And could possibly have issues that arenā€™t commonly known yet due to lack of testing

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So really the 700 series is the only choice unless you just want to beta test basically

light karma
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Well.... I think I've had enough of that with the Tuya dimmer switches, so I can use a little stability in my life

cold moon
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But zwave range is shit so plan out buying a few and or put your zwave stick close to them

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Zwave and zigbee shine as meshes

pliant forum
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Does the 800 series (non ZWave LR radio) improve that at all out of curiosity?

cold moon
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Ya dude never buy anything tuya Wi-Fi or zigbee

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As far as I know 700 series supports LR too or should. Zwave js doesnā€™t

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Yet

light karma
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Yeah, I've learned.. it's just.. $10 each for a three-way dimmer is such a great price šŸ˜„

pliant forum
cold moon
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But since itā€™s basically just Al working on it I wouldnā€™t hold your breath

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(Heā€™s the only one getting paid by nabu casa and developing as the maintainer or owner or whatever)

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Which is a turn off frankly

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With how many people use it

pliant forum
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I need to get some more Zigbee stuff.. really want to get into the Inovelli Zigbee dimmers with some smart bulbs

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Mainly because I can bind the dimmers to the smart bulbs and pop them in the ceiling

cold moon
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I have all hue bulbs and all zooz switches in smart bulb mode

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So my shit doesnā€™t work if hass is down

pliant forum
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Yeah I have that with a Lutron pico and two Zigbee bulbs

cold moon
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Not ideal but no zigbee switches existed that I liked a year ago

pliant forum
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itā€™s frustrating

cold moon
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And blues are overpriced and out of stock AND currently suffering firmware issues

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Flooding the mesh

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Which will be fixed but still..

pliant forum
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The Zooz dimmers are what.. $35 now?

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on Amazon that is?

cold moon
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Iā€™m not sure

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I try to buy during Black Friday etc sales on their site directly

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For $22 or so

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But I donā€™t buy their dimmers

pliant forum
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The Inovelli seems like a good deal personally IMO. The light bar and smart bulb binding are the main selling points to me

cold moon
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Almost all zen76 here

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I like the blues just not the three things I said above

pliant forum
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Yeah. Understandable

cold moon
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Canā€™t buy them, price, and firmware issues (as of this date)

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For now Iā€™m doing like

pliant forum
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I wish they would come out with a Blue version of their Fan + Light controller

cold moon
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Single tap = lights 100% in room, double tap = 30%

cold moon
pliant forum
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(The one that goes up in a fan canopy where only one hot wire is ran)

pliant forum
cold moon
pliant forum
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Oops wrong link

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Thatā€™s the one Iā€™m talking about ^

cold moon
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Ah yea I donā€™t have a good fan setup

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Iā€™m just using zen76 with the fan load

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Even though youā€™re not supposed to

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Hasnā€™t burned up the relays yet on any of them lol

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I canā€™t control fan speed or light separately but I think I donā€™t have the right fans / wiring anyways

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Not gonna be pulling romex to fix that

pliant forum
light karma
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Well.. I have all of the tuya stuff working with local tuya now. It was just a painful two days to get up

pliant forum
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It has an RF module that connects to the switch and allows Smart Control of each separately via app/voice/manual control

cold moon
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Oh

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Weird Iā€™ll have to keep that in mind

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I need to just replace the fans if Iā€™m gonna take them down to wire

pliant forum
cold moon
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Prob 20+ years old

pliant forum
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Fair. Lol

cold moon
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@light karma make sure to buy a usb extender to put the zooz 700 stick on

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Moving it away from pi/whatever keeps from having interference issues

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Including escaping a rack or other metal

light karma
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Oh, good to know. Any issues with having it near a zigbee radio?

cold moon
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No but zigbee radios need the extender too

pliant forum
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I donā€™t believe so as they use different frequency ranges

cold moon
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Zwave is 900mhz ish and zigbee is 2.4 same as Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and now thread, and microwaves

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Cuz the engineers are retarded

pliant forum
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lol. Zigbee does have more bandwidth as compared to Zwave if you want a positive though.

cold moon
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I frankly think zigbee is the better protocol

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Even tho I like a few things zwave does better

light karma
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Ahh. Surprised it has bad range then - I always thought the tradeoff was low frequency = more range

cold moon
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Idk Iā€™m no ham or frequency expert

light karma
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Neither am I.. every time I start playing with an SDR I get real excited, then get a headache

cold moon
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Probably due to power and other issues

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You can and should do an energy scan to see what channel has the least interference for zigbee

light karma
cold moon
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On the second link you can see how the side bands on Wi-Fi 2.4ghz overlap with zigbee

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Ideally you want channel 15,20,25 for zigbee

light karma
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Yeah. Luckily I live in a pretty uncongested area, but I did just pop up three APs

cold moon
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I chose 25 and then I put my Wi-Fi AP with channel 11 the furthest away from the zigbee stick

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Which based on the chart above is the best solution

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But really it seems like Wi-Fi 2.4ghz 20mhz band width wonā€™t bleed over much

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So isnā€™t too big of a deal even if your neighbors are shitting all over the spectrum with their fancy eero piece of shit mesh systems

light karma
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This is all great info, thanks!

cold moon
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Ya I like helping people and giving my time away for free

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Itā€™s a gift

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Haha

light karma
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That'll keep other switches from being turned off, with still allowing it as an emergency backup

desert bough
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Tuya ā€˜teckinā€™ plugs - I have 3 but 1 has stopped working all together - canā€™t seem to reset it. Has any experienced this?
Itā€™s a SP27 model.
Thanks

sly owl
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Any recommendation for humidifiers working well with HA?

unique lantern
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An old analog one + a smart plug + humidity sensor works great with the Generic Hygrostat integration

sly owl
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I'd rather have a new one with WiFi to be honest

soft hill
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Hi there, is there anyone who could guide me into the choice of the best EV Charger to integrate with Home Assistant ? I am a bit lost (i will need to be able to manage 3 ...)

night atlas
dense widget
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can someone please point me in the direction of a battery powered wall mounted switch that I can use to turn light on/off, using some ESP? hopefully in a form factor like regular EU wall switches.

winged knoll
dense widget
fringe crater
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For battery powered you would probably want zwave, wifi power drain is too high.

night atlas
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zwave or zigbee

fringe crater
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Yes of course zigbee is good too, but I was just reacting to the comment "I use wifi and zwave"

narrow belfry
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Is the Home Assistant Yellow available anywhere other than Crowd Supply?
Or in a 4GB RAM version?

cold moon
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yeah but they're called used laptops and thin clients and mini pcs and they're on ebay

limpid sandal
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Is anyone else looking at the PL64 for a docker-based home assistant install? anyone see any downsides with this hardware?

winged knoll
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Even the Celeron version seems to be reasonable

limpid sandal
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it looks too good to be true for my specific use case, so I wanted to see if I was missing any red flags

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pair it with a NAS, a coral, and a skyconnect and it should be my endgame hardware

molten epoch
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Does anyone know a reliable way to track bed occupancy? I've thought about both a pressure pad under the matrices and a millimetre-wave sensor like the aqara fp2 (above or below the bed). Ideally also getting an info if one or two people occupy the bed. I also looked into getting some data from the sensor build into the nest hub 2 which uses that for sleep tracking which I find quite accurate on picking up occupancy.

Has anyone already dealt with this and knows which devices work?

pliant forum
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Just wanted to share an FYI for anyone buying smart locks- if build.com carries the smart lock you want- they can key the locks the same as your existing locks

cold moon
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Kwikset smartkey allow you to rekey at home which is very useful

sand oxide
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Has anyone else experienced an issue w/ Govee lightstrip where you'll set a scene but as soon as you're done editting the scene the white will turn to a weird purple-ish white?

pliant forum
sand oxide
pliant forum
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I'm not sure to be honest with you. What integration are you using?

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Govee LAN?

sand oxide
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Just the standard Govee integration. Is there a better one available?

pliant forum
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the LAN one uses the local network to access data

sand oxide
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Oh that's nice, I'll check it out. Thanks for the pointer.

pliant forum
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LAN should also be a lot faster than the cloud integration.. (coming from the cloud integration)

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@sand oxide you need to make sure your strip supports the LAN API also

sand oxide
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Good point, it's the H6148

pliant forum
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If you go into the device in the Govee app then the settings you should see the LAN toggle if it supports it

sand oxide
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No toggle for LAN, just wifi settings šŸ˜¦

pliant forum
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Is there a software update available, out of curiosity?

sand oxide
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tbh I don't even see an update checker in the settings

pliant forum
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I'd still give the integration a try as it can use the cloud api also and may be slightly different as to how it works

sand oxide
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Ahh, well the plan was to replace it anyways with a custom WLED strip. Thanks for the info though

cold moon
sand oxide
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This was when I was a novice that I bought govee, lol

cold moon
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I try to warn people

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I only have two Wi-Fi rgbw-cct bulbs (athom gu10) with wled all the other wled are just strips

cold moon
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Round three

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Lol

unique roost
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I appreciate the help!

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So the first step was "install HA and get a light bulb on it." I've done that. Step 2 is "get the radiators online."

cold moon
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ye

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right

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well let's step back a level

unique roost
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So since I'm new, I'm asking because it's easier to make good decisions now. šŸ˜„

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My house was built in 1948. And the electrics are that old. (I'm in Sweden, BTW.)

cold moon
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really you figure out what devices you want to serve what purpose, then you figure out what those devices use (zigbee, zwave, wifi, thread/matter), then you buy ones that integrate well with home assistant and fit those constraints

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ok wondered if you literally meant fuse box w/ breaker

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you dont necessarily need a "connected breaker" - they make zigbee and zwave ct clamps

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but that can be done later

unique roost
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Oh, I literally do. We're putting a new breaker panel in whenwe do the garage addition, so I'll go full-smart from the panel at that point.

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But that's int he future.

cold moon
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so

unique roost
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So my current two problems I need to solve. First: heating. My radiators support devices like this: "Aqara Smart Radiator Thermostat E1" or "Shelly TRV."

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I know literally nothing about why I might want one or the other.

cold moon
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i'm bad at suggesting those specifically (no trv stuff here) but thermostat is pretty easy

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as long as they support w/e features you want you can kind of buy w/e

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with zigbee and zwave devices you do want to confirm the specific model isnt a known issue-causer (such as blackholing routes on some sonoff devices)

unique roost
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Yeah, I can't decide between Aqara or Shelly at this point. Leaning toward Aqara because it's easier to acquire here and a bit cheaper than Shelly. And I have 20 radiators. Both are well supported by HA.

cold moon
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it's a short list of bad devices tho

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i'm not personally a fan of shelly and wifi devices

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if IoT devices supported wifi6 then it wouldnt be a big deal

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some people just dedicate their entire 2.4ghz band to IoT and do 5/6e for other devices

unique roost
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Okay, a very general question: should I prefer zigbee over wifi, or the other way around?

cold moon
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some yolo and have no issues with 60 wifi devices or whatever with multiple access points

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zigbee is still 2.4ghz but low bandwidth

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it's kind of a personal choice but there are some benefits to zigbee/zwave mesh systems

unique roost
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If I go WiFi, I would definitely have a completely separate wifi network for it with repeaters.

cold moon
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for example, you can have smart bulbs + smart switches (both zigbee or both zwave) then you can bind or direct associate said bulbs to said switches and then they'll still work even if hass is down

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you can also create zigbee groups or similar with zwave where you can control multiple lights with one multicast versus unicast per bulb

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which results in lights "syncing up" perfectly when automated to turn on/off/brightness change/whatever

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also you end up with battery powered devices unless you're building a new home and can run wires everywhere

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battery devices with a wifi radio dont have long battery life (except for esp deep sleep options) so zigbee devices like bulbs/switches are used to repeat signal to give you good mesh coverage for "end" devices such as battery powered motion sensors

unique roost
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But like I said, since I have to buy 20 of the TRV devices, I suddenly need to make the "right" choice.

cold moon
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(because battery powered devices dont act as repeaters to save battery)

unique roost
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The Aqara TRV I'm looking at claims a year. And HA can alert me to battery levels. So I'm fine with that.

cold moon
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i'd search the forums to confirm what TRV devices work best

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the aqara E1 devices are new zigbee 3.0 which are preferred for sure over older gen

unique roost
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I've confirmed the Aqara E1 TRV is very well supported, and like I said I'm leaning there.

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But I am concerned that I'll get everything set up and find that the ConBee2 just can't reach the furthest-away radiators. šŸ˜¦

cold moon
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ya i'd throw the conbee in the trash regardless

unique roost
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Okay. I trust you on that. What would you recommend specifically? I'll literally buy whatever you tell me. šŸ˜„

cold moon
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you can search here/forums/reddit and they're just not great compared to cc2652 or the newer efr chipsets

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have you researched zigbee2mqtt versus zha?

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that dictates what coordinator you should buy

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although i want to confirm if we're talking about barn or house

unique roost
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I am very confused about the mqtt vs zha thing.

cold moon
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mqtt is a protocol, we're specifically talking about z2m or zigbee2mqtt

unique roost
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We're definitely talking about the house. The barn can be a separate HA install, if it needs to. And that's a future concern.

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I am familiar with mqtt as a protocol from my work (software consulting.)

cold moon
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k cool. still gonna prob be a PoE coordinator for barn or if no wired ethernet to barn then a point to point wireless link using something like ubiquiti AirOS devices or similar.

unique roost
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I use ubiquiti equipment, and there is (well, will be in the spring) a wire between the house and barn.

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The barn is a future concern.

cold moon
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ya just wanted to mention that

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i'm not sure the best way to describe the differences. z2m is "decoupled" from home assistant and is developed by a third party and uses mqtt (the protocol) to bridge between the zigbee coordinator and home assistant

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zha is more closely tied to home assistant, has built in integration with websocket, and (as of now) has no web interface for configuration besides what is baked into home assistant

unique roost
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I really appreciate your attention, btw. Last time I did home automation, it was with Perl and X10.

cold moon
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^you

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haha šŸ˜›

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so

unique roost
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Haha, buddy. We look like relatives. šŸ˜‰

cold moon
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i'm only 34

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still figuring out my place in life and all that fun stuff

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hence why i'm here giving away free advice lmao

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i personally like zigbee2mqtt and use it myself but there are some benefits to zha (mostly beneficial to people who want a more streamlined/simpler onboarding process)

unique roost
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Hah, I'm only 39. I got started in my career at 14 though. šŸ˜›

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Still don't know what my place in life is: I just know I'll die in this house.

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In Sweden (if you like to live rurally) you can buy a house for less than $30k, and get gigabit internet.

cold moon
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nice

unique roost
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I'm not Swedish, I'm Canadian.

cold moon
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pm me so i can share embedded pics of z2m

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they're blocked here by mods for reasons

unique roost
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Thanks!

drifting grove
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Looking for a recommendation on temp sensors (in the US) - specifically for measuring the temperature on my dryer. I have found the hot spot of the dryer when it is on, which is about 106F on the surface and ambient is about 60F. I want to automate notifications for when the dryer is done but I have an electric dryer with the big plug so my washing machine setup won't work - and I tried the Aqara vibration sensor, but no where on the dryer would activate it so I figured my next best bet is temp changes

frigid dove
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I have a weird problem i cant find any answers on Google, i have a shelly 2.5PM that was working, now it shows the on/off status but when i try to toggle the switch from HA i get "failed to call service switch.turn_on"

lone fossil
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If I want to get the skyconnect in the Netherlands, what'd be the best place to order?

sly owl
valid forge
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Hey, I want to have some flush-mounted multicolor LED stripes and wondering what would be the best atm to also have a good integration with HomeAssistant. There are some really expensive one from HUE, cheap from Tp-link tapo or govee, or do it yourself from WLED-shop. Does anyone has experience? As they will be under the wall they should have some quallity standards šŸ˜„

pliant forum
valid forge
pliant forum
valid forge
ruby harbor
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I don't know whether this is a bug with Aqara weather sensor or a bug with homeassist but once the homeassist instance is powered off and back on, the sensor never reconnects to the instance until the button on the side is pushed.

willow timber
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Hrmmm. I feel like this has come up quite a bit lately or I'm in Groundhog Day.

#

Aqara Zigbee 1.2 devices will not handle their router being offline very well.

winged knoll
#

Less than an hour and they may not even notice, less than 24 hours and they should reconnect... but they don't always

lusty tapir
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Hey have been using HA on a synology VM for a long time, testing out switching to a docker container on an old laptop, I cant seem to find documentation on connecting a USB for Zwave/zigbee... can someone point me to it?

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aaaaand... I think I found it ... lol

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is there a recommended path for using zwave in docker-compose?

willow timber
winged sonnet
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Hey all, anybody know of a pressure sensor (0 to 100 psi), that can screw right on top of a bicycle tire-type air valve (Schrader) and output 0 to 10 V analogue signal? thanks!

lusty tapir
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thanks

sharp swift
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Anyone have a recommendation for a doorbell that does local intercom WITHOUT VIDEO?

glossy elbow
#

Has anyone tried adding the newly enabled HomePod Mini Temp and Humidity sensors into Home Assistant yet?

bold leaf
valid forge
#

do you have links to what you ordered?

bold leaf
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Yep!...

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Those are for my Hyperion Ambient TV Lighting.

valid forge
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thx a lot! Do you know if it has any disadvantage using IP65 or is it more reliable as it is dust proofed. or will they be less bright? the 5v 2a is enough for 2m? I need the 5v 16a for the Athom right? And do you maybe know what I need to connect it to a normal 230V plug @bold leaf

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sorry for all the questions -.- really appreciate your help so far thx alot!

kind crater
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Hi. I havent bought anything yet not even a zigbe stick. What hardware should i use and whats most n00b friendly to integrate? Is zigbe hardware the best option? Or what should i go with? Im planning my setup and was directed here from the general forum. Zwave zigbee hue ect ect?

proven girder
kind crater
# proven girder I also said to give instructions as per the pinned post. Namely country, price r...

Sry . I just found the pins. First off im in Sweden, EU. I would like to find easy integratable smatplugs in the budget class ie max 10usd per plug. I rather not flash/solder stuff. And what dongle is compatible with most stuff? Just looking around so i dont buy into one system that isnt the most suitable. Everyone is talking about zigbee. Is that the way to go? Any general consensus on what dongle to get?

cobalt heath
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Could this work with HA ?

valid forge
soft hill
#

Hi there, is there anyone here who have experience with the emporia ev charger ?

thin egret
#

What black magic is this Osram Smart Switch Mini? I have just paired it, not configured anything and it already switching on and off ALL my Zigbee devices when I press something

thin egret
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So it is firing events

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But I never configured any of those

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Can't send a picture unfortunately

winged knoll
thin egret
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Oh channel for the yellow, sorry. I always thought it was hardware in general

outer knotBOT
#
The topic of this channel is:

There's a channel for #yellow-archived if you have questions about it.

Questions about a hardware device (not their #integrations-archived with HA, and not the thing that HA calls devices)? Someone might have the same device and be able to help you out! If you've got a Z-Wave or Zigbee devices, see #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived, #cameras-archived for cameras, and #diy-archived for making your own stuff (or if you're asking about Tasmota or ESPHome).

If you have problems with the Blue or your installation see #installation-archived.

If you want to share images, use https://imgur.com/ or similar.

Please use https://www.codepile.net/ or https://paste.debian.net/ to share code or logs

winged knoll
#

All channels have a topic šŸ˜‰

median oxide
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Hi, apologies if this should be in zigbee topic. I've been searching and not sure I'm looking for the right terminology or if it's possible. I'm in the UK and in my lounge have a 4 gang light switch. Instead of having 4 smart bulbs I'd like a way to wire something in the existing box that allows me to trigger the on/off status of each individual light. I've looked into Zigbee switche modules but not sure if that's the right thing, or if it only works for individual light switches. So I'd expect within home assistant to have 4 buttons, and those buttons correlate to the 4 switches to turn the 4 lights individually on and off. Is this possible? A nudge in the right direction is appreciated. I want to keep the existing light switches if possible.

willow timber
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not zigbee but more specific to your use

median oxide
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Cheers, just thinking WiFi is fine, in other words if it can be controlled via HA. Keep thinking everything had to be Zigbee... šŸ™ˆ. I'll take a good look at this.

willow timber
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Yep, just to clarify what I imagine you using that for. You would wire constant power to your lights and then use your current light switch just as inputs of on/off to control your smart bulbs.

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esphome can be flashed onto that shelly

bold leaf
unique lantern
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I picked up an RTL-SDR (the official RTL-SDR Blog one) with the intention of using it to monitor my gas meter that transmits in the 900MHz band, but I think I'm going to use it for general experimenting with radio stuff instead of dedicating it to the gas meter monitoring

Is something like a cheap $10 SDR with a whip antenna from AliExpress going to be reliable enough to pickup gas meter broadcasts?

willow timber
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I didn't know $10 SDR's existed, neat

unique lantern
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They look like clones of the Nooelec Mini

willow timber
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jumbers, which program are you using to collect the data from the meter? maybe the signal stats can help you determine some things

unique lantern
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rtl_tcp + rtlamr

willow timber
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nice, rtlamr is silent in my neighborhood

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does it show any stats?

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I've never experienced it in effect

unique lantern
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With the 1 meter rabbit ears on the RTL-SDR I get dozens of meters. Not sure if rtlamr has signal stats, I'll have to check the docs. The normal output is just a timestamp and the data from the meter

willow timber
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oh, that antenna if that is your worry is going to be fine

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I just have no experience with the hardware

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SDR

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"The driver's initial frequency limit 40 MHz to 900 MHz"

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hopefully it being right on the edge of 900 is n't an issue

fringe crater
unique lantern
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hmm, was your meter on the compatible list? I was able to find my meter almost immediately with the genuine RTL-SDR since the meters seem to broadcast about once a minute. I'm just not sure if these cheap Nooelec clones on AliExpress with their little whip antenna is enough

fringe crater
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No idea really if it is compatible or not. I do remember it did get some meters, and there's nobody else super close to me, so I assume it must be working somewhat.

willow timber
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rtlamr doesn't support anything of mine but rtl_433 does

unique lantern
willow timber
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rtlamr doesn't plan on ever supporting demodulation so it will be quite limited for the future.

fringe crater
#

I have the 45ER-1, which has a row in that table, but with some missing data.

unique hawk
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hola amigos

#

curious, can a Sonoff Basic work if I don't have a neutral wire?

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just 1 coming into the switch and one leaving,

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nevermind, read the instructions

unique lantern
# willow timber rtlamr doesn't plan on ever supporting demodulation so it will be quite limited ...

I didn't realize it before, but your comment prompted me to check and I found out that rtl_433 actually does support my meter which is nice. I was planning to buy 2 more SDRs (one for rtlamr and another for rtl_433) to hop between the ~900MHz band for the gas meter and 433MHz for some RF temperature sensors, but it seems that you can configure rtl_433 to frequency hop every X seconds, so I can get away with just buying 1 and letting it hop since it's not like it's critical if I miss a couple broadcasts here and there

soft hill
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Is there anyone here who use the SinopƩ Hardware ?

willow timber
valid forge
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I think 6A would be sufficient that

uncut spire
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i added xiaomi wireless wall switch via bluetooth but it dont see any button and only showing my signal strength

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what can i do to us it ?

pure rivet
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This sounds silly, but have you pressed the switch since you added it to Home Assistant?

#

Some of these devices need to receive a state update before they show up

uncut spire
#

Yes i click many time sadly

dusk sun
#

Is it possible to emulate the ARM architecture (HAOS) from the sd card and run it just like a raspberry pi does, on macOS/windows/linux?

winged knoll
kind crater
#

Swedish guy here. Any ideas on the best zigbee dongle for ha in docker on a nuc? One person said gej the dongle thats compatible with most protocolls, but what do you guys suggest?

winged knoll
#

The answer is also in the pinned messages there

jovial pulsar
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I don't see skyconnect mentioned there šŸ¤”

winged knoll
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Well, it's not the best ||for Z2M|| šŸ˜›

visual lintel
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Looking for zigbee based ambient LED lights (e.g. light strips, plates, bars, etc.)
I'd like to keep the price down as far as possible.
I live in Germany/EU - Amazon purchase would be great.

gloomy elbow
robust torrent
#

Is Tradfri usging Zigbee?

winged knoll
#

Yes

wet remnant
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Is this the right place to ask help with skyconnect?

gloomy elbow
wet remnant
#

Thanks

proven kayak
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Is selling hardware allowed here?

gloomy elbow
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No

proven kayak
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Okay thanks

lucid lintel
#

Heyo, looking for some advice. So I am looking for some smart ceiling lights similar to this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ambiance-Waterproof-Compatible-Required-2700k-6500k/dp/B07RJN2VJ3 but after research and talking to people on the discord I am weary of using tuya based products. Basically need a ceiling light that is dimmable, has light warmth control and water-resistant (for bathroom) any suggestions would be appreciated. (goes without saying but needs to integrate with HA)

coral solstice
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Any recommendations for a good, cheap Zigbee (or even ZWave) smart plug that has energy monitoring capabilities? Having an issue with some of my Tuya TS011F plugs where some of them show up as TS011F_plug_1 but don't show power readings.

cold moon
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Frankly I think Wi-Fi power monitoring plugs are best

#

You donā€™t have to worry about them flooding your mesh

copper juniper
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Orange; you don't get Good and Cheap one or the other usally

cold moon
#

More of an issue with zwave tho

coral solstice
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I don't really have any wifi devices at the moment.. everything is zwave or zigbee

copper juniper
#

Sonof S31 i think is what I use

cold moon
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yeah s31 wifi flashed with esphome

copper juniper
#

tasmota

cold moon
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yea esphome šŸ˜›

coral solstice
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just bizarre that one of my 4 Tuya plugs registers as TS011F_plug_3, which with polling works fine. Can't get the others to register as anything but TS011F_plug_1 but those don't report any power

copper juniper
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nah tasmota

cold moon
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well feel free to shoot whoever told you to buy tuya with a rubber band gun

coral solstice
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šŸ˜ƒšŸ”«

copper juniper
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sounds like someones in trouble

coral solstice
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well, at least they work great for on/off switches

copper juniper
#

but yeah the sonoff S31 works well once reflashed

coral solstice
#

I haven't gone through the process yet, so may need to figure it out

cold moon
#

well flashing them is pretty involved

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you have to take them apart and solder onto tiny pads

#

it's a lot of fun

coral solstice
#

yeah, I tried it with some Tuya wifi temperature sensors, but came to realize that I couldn't

copper juniper
#

I setup a header and just did mine in bulk

cold moon
#

you can buy preflashed ones on aliexpress too

copper juniper
#

drop a link to em?

cold moon
#

athom has an alie store

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or us shipping and a bit more on their site

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not identical to s31 tho

copper juniper
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and more $

cold moon
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still 16a and 2mb esp8285

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well ya they're preflashed it's expected they're gonna be more

unique lantern
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I have 8 of the Cloudfree plugs and they're great. Also it's a small business that supports the open source/self hosting community, so I like to support them

cold moon
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so cloudfree is just a kid who buys bulk off aliexpress and resells marked up in the us or?

copper juniper
#

good way to go if you don't wanna do the work

unique lantern
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It's a little more than that, I think he's going to the vendors and getting them custom flashed, branded, etc. That plug is the same design as the Shelly US plug

cold moon
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i see

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i guess the prices seem fair

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same price as aliexpress

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some other stuff is a bit more but still not bad

unique lantern
#

I bought 4 of the plugs pretty early on, they turned out to have a hardware bug that caused them to randomly toggle due to radio interference. Contacted him, he followed up with instructions on how to disable the button to prevent the random toggling, he got a new hardware revision to fix it, sent me 4 plugs to replace them, and didn't have me send the bad ones back. Getting an AliExpress vendor to do that would be a lot more tough

cold moon
#

yeah

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ah they are the old ones

copper juniper
#

ntresting

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most of my stuff is 433mhz based

unique lantern
#

Nice thing about 433MHz is that if your neighbor owns a 433MHz temperature sensor, so do you!

copper juniper
#

long as you can decode it

unique lantern
#

rtl_433 seems to have support for a lot of stuff. I found a soil temperature/moisture sensor nearby among other things

cold moon
#

i've been wanting to do an automated garden for so long

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i've been thinking about 3d printing a vertical garden stand

copper juniper
#

loos like bunch of pvc from the outside at least

cold moon
#

Thereā€™s a bunch of different versions I just linked the first one

tacit pilot
#

Any recommendations on iBeacon devices? Want to use something to track if my garbage is out front or not

lucid lintel
kind crater
#

Anyone familliar with esp and diffrent diy sensors?

winged knoll
alpine crypt
winged knoll
#

I have no idea, you should ask there šŸ˜‰

thorny falcon
#

question for you: got shelly and would like to use mqtt but i see that topic shellies/shelly/relay/0 sends status each 30 seconds (retain=false), is there other topic or its just how it works on shelly?

scenic nacelle
#

Anyone have samsung tab A8 wall mount to share? sell?

naive basin
#

Sorry for being a bit off topic. I want to move my HA into a proxmox setup. I have an old ROG Z370-i motherboard lying around and wondered if the Xeon E3-1245V5 would work in it. They're both LGA1151. Trying to spend as little we possible for the time being and don't want to buy a new mobo really as the xeon is being gifted. Would they work together?

copper juniper
#

maybr

thorny falcon
naive basin
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Ah shame. I assume the xeon would be better than a i5 8400 or something. Wondering if I keep the mobo but buy a new CPU or sell the mobo and buy another and use the xeon. ebay has been real unkind to me recently with selling. Lost out back to back...

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Thanks for the link, I'll have a think. I didn't find that in my googling

copper juniper
#

do you need xeon features?

naive basin
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Not really. Was only because it was on offer for free and my pea brain went more cores = better for virtualisation of stuff

unique lantern
#

You'd probably save more money in the long run buying a used mini PC than running a free Xeon. Those Xeons suck down a lot of power

copper juniper
#

says my 12/16 core mahines

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yummy power

naive basin
#

That's a fair point, didn't consider power draw...

copper juniper
#

i'm starting to as i'm having to look into paying my own power bill. sad

jagged crypt
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my lenovo m900 tiny running proxmox with 2 vm's idles around 15watts i5-6500

unique lantern
#

I have a 48 port switch that I got for free and ended up decommissioning because it drew 60W at idle. The 12 port POE switch I bought to replace it has already almost paid for itself in power reduction

lilac spindle
#

Can anyone help with a MiFlora/VegTrug integration problem? I'm using 3 ESP32 Bluetooth proxies and non see the sensors. My Raspberry Pi does see 2 of the MiFlora but nothing in HassOS with proxies. Phone app sees all the device in Flower Care.

willow timber
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make sure the firmwares are up to date

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do you have other BLE devices working with the proxy or are these the first devices you're trying?

unique lantern
willow timber
#

that's the non bt proxy way, if so

lilac spindle
#

I have a couple of temp/humidity sensors that are working through the proxies.

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Just strange cause I have one of the proxies about 4 inches from a MiFlora and Nothing

#

Just seems like I have made a mistake somewhere.

#

Funny thing is 2 of the sensors are seen by RaspPi but not HASSIO w/Proxies.

#

So, all I did was setup the proxies... then pulled the battery insulator on the MiFloras... The phone app sees them. Is there something I need to configure in the ESPHome proxy config or the HA configuration.yaml ?

outer knotBOT
#

@lilac spindle I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

šŸ“Ž message.txt
lucid lintel
#

Anyone here from the UK have experience with adding something like a Sonoff ZBMini to an extraction fan in the bathroom? I am little confused with how it works, will it work even if the fan is wired into the bathroom lights?

naive basin
fringe crater
lucid lintel
gloomy elbow
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UK building regs now require that the fan cut in automatically and stay on for a while after the lights turn off if memory serves

willow timber
#

neat. that's what I just set up in my bathroom a couple of weeks ago but with some extra sauce.

gloomy spoke
#

We had bathrooms with the light and fan wired together in a house when I was growing up and it was really annoying

lucid lintel
kind crater
copper juniper
#

its usb so should be fine

topaz gale
#

does anyone know of a good controller/dimmer for single color 12v LED strip, with wifi? Iā€™m sure Iā€™m just using the wrong search terms, everything iā€™m finding is for RGB or addressable strips.

unique lantern
#

Is wifi your only option? There are some good Zigbee ones from Gledopto. It looks like BTF-Lighting makes a 5-in-1 WiFi based controller, but it seems to be Tuya based (yuck)

errant oriole
#

Does anyone know any good wired alarm keypads that can be wired directly to the pi via usb, i2c or similar? There are a couple i2c keypads on aliexpress but i cant find any HA integration for them. It seems that most people are using esphome to do this sort of thing but i dont like the idea of it being wireless or over ethernet.

reef compass
#

hello, whats the best channel to ask questions about

not getting multiprotocol to work on skyconnect ?

marsh swift
#

Hi i have this error when changing the channel from 11 to 25 on the zigbee sonoff dongle P

#

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-01-28 13:55:50: Error: startup failed - configuration-adapter mismatch - see logs above for more information at ZnpAdapterManager.determineStrategy (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/manager.ts:229:35) at ZnpAdapterManager.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/manager.ts:63:26) at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:132:29) at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:58:27) at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.ts:101:27) at start (/app/index.js:107:5)

next sun
#

Hey guys, anyone have an opinions on what the best phillips hue colour bulb alternative is? Compatible with hue app would be a bonus, HA is obviously a must. Iā€™ve always really liked Hue and am pretty invested in the brand with too many lights to replace.. but at Ā£50 a bulb now, i think itā€™s time to test alternatives.

unique lantern
#

I would imagine that other brands are not going to be compatible with the Hue app. The Hue bulbs are #zigbee-archived though, so if you get a coordinator stick, you can join them to a Zigbee network, get rid of the Hue hub, and buy whatever other bulbs you want

jagged crypt
next sun
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Innr bulbs are Ā£45 for two, and are compatible with the hue appā€¦ I just donā€™t know if theyā€™re any good. Maybe Iā€™ll buy a couple and see

fringe crater
#

I recall hearing once that hue bulbs wouldnā€™t connect to a regular zigbee coordinator but not totally sure.
They will.

next sun
#

Awesome! Thatā€™s great news! I just have to find some reasonably priced bulbs now and then I can migrate everything to zigbee and HA

wide crest
primal wren
#

anyone have any recommendations for a multi-sensor that runs off of zigbee? I want a sensor that can report temperature, humidity, and motion and preferably can be plugged into an outlet, as I just dont want so many objects that need batteries swapped

unique lantern
pliant forum
next sun
lunar tapir
#

anyone use OpenGarage for their garage door automations?

#

works great, but if I open the garage door by other means (ie. my wall control), HA doesn't seem to get updated so the buttons on my dashboard for opening/closing the door don't change state which means I can't close the door from dashboard.

wanton aurora
#

Does anyone have recommendations on dimmable A19 bulbs? I have a Shelly Dimmer and didn't realize the LED bulbs I have are non-dimmable (although they've worked quite well until recent if you keep the brightness from 40%-100%). I'm planning on swapping to an Innovelli switch when they come back in stock but wanted dimmable bulbs.
The phillips flicker-free 800lm A19 bulbs won't come back in stock on Amazon for at least a month šŸ˜¦

unique lantern
#

I've had good luck with the Amazon Basics dimmable bulbs, bought them years ago to replace old halogens and have had no problems since. Mine are GU10, but they make A19 verisons too

primal wren
#

@pliant forum That looks promising. I have a 3d Printer too, so I can take advantage of the "Board only" option.

grim hemlock
#

I'm looking for a small circulating fan to set up in my basement crawlspace. We keep having some basement pipes freezing and the solution is to rig up a floor fan and circulate room temp air into the crawlspace for a while. I'd like to set up something small to run whenever it gets below a certain temp outside (will eventually throw a temperature sensor in the crawlspace to use that ambient temp as the trigger). Any recommended hardware for this purpose?

unique lantern
#

A pipe heater and temperature sensor might be a more effective solution

#

You might not even need a temperature sensor since most will have a built-in thermostat

half sundial
#

anyone that can help me solve an issue with skyconnect? managed to switch to Multiprotocol support, and at the same time joned beta and now no devices are showing upp from the ols ZHA integration.

#

old*

grim hemlock
half sundial
#

i get the errorcode "This entity is no longer being provided by the zha integration. If the entity is no longer in use, delete it in settings." what to do, anyone?

pulsar spade
#

Did you ever get your Shelly Gen2's working as Bluetooth Proxies? I have other devices flashed with ESPHome working but I'd like to try this form factor with its native firmware support.

paper fern
#

Hi, I'm not sure whether to ask in hardware or zigbee channel. I'm running into the following issue. All help is appreciated. I am trying to figure out if my usb zigbee stick has failed. I get the following errors for all of my zigbee devices. "This entity is no longer being provided by the zha integration. If the entity is no longer in use, delete it in settings." I also dont see the device under system and hardware. Any suggestions of what to check next?
I have restored home assistant backups from days that I know my devices were working without success.

paper fern
#

I got it figure out. Thanks again everyone !!!

keen snow
pulsar flame
#

Can anyone recommend Control panel which avoid tuya? Just ready to mount ?

primal wren
#

Are there any Zigbee switches that can be powered by AC Wall power? OR Zigbee switches that can be added to an existing wall switch... to add an additional switch that controls something via Zigbee? If not, it would be a good idea to install... It would allow you to have your regular wall switches you might have, but also an additional switch,... powered by AC power rather than watch batteries...

I HATE having IoT stuff that relies on those damn batteries. I have kids in the house, and while I'm very careful about making sure not to lose any of those batteries,... I have a serious fear about one of them getting lost, or being dropped only to later be swallowed by my kid. I want to eliminate the user of anything that uses watch batteries in my house, as much as possible.

Plus, they're also extremely annoying to stay on top of and change out over and over again.

golden oyster
#

Yes. There are many powered switches.

primal wren
#

What are some recommended ones?

golden oyster
#

What country are you in?

primal wren
#

USA

golden oyster
#

GE and Inovelli are two that Iā€™d recommend

primal wren
#

I have no idea what you call them, having trouble finding it

golden oyster
#

Just search ge zigbee

primal wren
#

the purpose of the switch, is not to replace an existing switch and make it zigbee controllable...

golden oyster
#

Then I have no idea what youā€™re asking for.

primal wren
#

Its to add an additional switch, which would control a zigbee connected bulb or other zigbee controlled appliance

golden oyster
#

Yeah. So you cut a hole for a bigger gang box and install a second switch

primal wren
#

That switch you sent,... it takes power, and then acts as a switch for an outgoing wire that goes to another wired appliance, right?

golden oyster
#

It can, if you wire up the load side. You basically just want a button. So donā€™t wire a load and use ha to detect the button press and do whatever you want with it

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Basically donā€™t hook up a device to it. Just detect the button press

cold moon
#

that's a hacky workaround compared to switches that just have a smart bulb mode

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plus from the amazon pics that ge kinda looks like a piece of shit with the paddles

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but inovelli blues are backordered for months so lol

golden oyster
#

Not a hacky workaround at all. You still use smart bulb mode. Just may not have a device hooked up. I have many such switches I use as scene controllers

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And not sure why it looks like a piece of shit to you, matches nicely with any decora switch from the last 30 years. Looks just fine

golden oyster
#

Addon switch requires another switch to be connected to it. It has no zwave or zigbee chip in it

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But Iā€™m fairness Iā€™m still confused by what heā€™s trying to achieve so maybe that is what he wants

primal wren
limpid lotus
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should i upgrade my HA rpi4?

gentle fossil
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maybe

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maybe not

limpid lotus
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i have 8gb model, and i just notice 7.5gb is used up lol

gentle fossil
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the heck

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1.5 / 3.53 and I use frigate besides ha lol

limpid lotus
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idk, i planning to add frigate soon...

gentle fossil
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why do you use 7.5gb ? that is unhealthy

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your sd card likely commits suicide in the next few minutes

limpid lotus
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i using ssd

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i just notice the ram usage, just try to do a health check before install frigate

winged knoll
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It all depends on what is using that RAM

limpid lotus
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i using "top" command to check

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is it the correct way?

gentle fossil
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yes, you can also use docker statsif you use a lot of containers

limpid lotus
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thanks

hallow bear
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Hi - I asked a, now closed, question on the DIY group of StackExchange --- hopefully it's OK for me to link to it from here as it describes the current setup I have: https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/265691/what-smart-thermostat-system-would-you-recommend-for-a-hitachi-heatpump-underf

In short - I'd like to be able to control the Central Heating (and Water Heating) fully from HA. Ultimately, I'd like to be sure that whatever "smart controller/thermostat" I get, that it is compatible with HA.

Thanks!

Info:

  • Located in Spain/Europe
  • No specific price limit - but would expect system to be less than ā‚¬1000 (If possible avoiding a subscription service)
  • WiFi or Zigbee
  • Ideally:
  • Monitor and set temperature for each central heating zone
  • Switch on/off Central Heating completely
  • Monitor and set Hot Water temperature
  • Switch on/off Water Heating completely
winged knoll
hallow bear
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Hi Tinkerer, thanks for the quick response. This is a good resource.

By any chance, would you know what terms I should use to be sure that any controller I get can control both the HeatPump and also the Pumps that deliver heating to the different zones? Is this something that all systems provide?

winged knoll
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No idea TBH

hallow bear
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OK, no problem.

mighty temple
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Hey folks šŸ™‚

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Not really sure if this is the right place to ask, but I have an old laptop and I was wondering if it would be enough to run HA

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Specs

CPU: Intel Celeron N3060 (1.6 GHz, up to 2.48 GHz, 2 MB cache, 2 cores)
Memory: 2 GB DDR3L-1600 SDRAM (onboard)
Video: HD Graphics 400
Storage: 32 GB eMMC

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(I have to buy another charger before I can test it, that's why I haven't tried myself)

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Any thoughts?

winged knoll
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CPUMark 654

A Pi4 has a score around 900

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It'd work, but between that and the eMMC storage (which is usually slow) then it's not going to be great

sand oxide
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Not sure if this is the right channel but... Is there any hardware/software change I can make to improve the time it takes for my assistant to toggle my lutron switches? It seems like it takes 6-8 seconds sometimes. I know that google assistant is talking to nabu casa, then NC talks to home assistant, an HA talks to Lutron. Are there any shortcuts I can take here?

mighty temple
winged knoll
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If you're using some form of cloud integration then that's a piece of delay you can cut out

sand oxide
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I'm using the Lutron Caseta integration.

winged knoll
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So, the first thing to test then is to test locally, in HA's UI, and see if the same delay exists

sand oxide
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Good point, I do notice when I toggle it in HA, it's pretty much immediate.

winged knoll
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Then the delay is between HA and Google

sand oxide
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Any fix there?

winged knoll
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The most likely source of delays is your Internet connection

sand oxide
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Hmm, I have a GB connection and HA is hard-wired.

winged knoll
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If your ping to 8.8.8.8 (for instance) is really high, or very variable, that'll cause issues

sand oxide
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6-7 ms

winged knoll
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The other test would be to use the Google Home app and see if you get the same delay there, taking voice processing out of the equation

sand oxide
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Alright, so this has been helpful, I've run all of your troubleshooting steps and I think we can deduce the issue derives from the voice inquiry OR Nabu Casa.

winged knoll
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Well - GHome -> HA is via Nabu Casa still

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The only thing that removes is the voice processing

sand oxide
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Oh, that's true, so it's the inquiry.

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I can't imagine I'm the only one experiencing this. Is GH voice commands notoriously slow or something?

winged knoll
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I just tried asking Google what lights are on and got a near instant response

sand oxide
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Right, I actually just sent some voice commands and they seemed faster than normal. So it just seems incredibly variable, are there other voice assistants that are more consistent?

winged knoll
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I haven't ever noticed a problem, but on the commercial side there's only really this and Alexa

sand oxide
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Got it. Well as always thanks for the assistant and teaching me how to troubleshoot a little bit better. šŸ˜‰

jagged crypt
sand oxide
full path
#

FYI, Coral.ai USB accelerators are in stock in a few places at the moment

gloomy elbow
full path
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great suggestion - cross posted! I found out they were available after receiving mine that I paid more that retail for and went to coral.ai to get the documentation

gloomy spoke
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If you widen to WiFi, I like my Feeder Robot

wraith girder
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Hey guys

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My friend wanted to build a server for 500 bucks, what do you advise for hardware between unraid or a nas ? He wanted to install PLEX/HASS/sonarr/radarr and maybe a few other things. Itā€™s for a light usage mainly for him and a couple of other people for the PLEX part

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I have a windows server myself but i canā€™t advise that for him because i know there are WAY better solutions. Even I would pick something other than Windows Server if i could redo it

gloomy spoke
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if you don't need speedy transcoding for Plex, any cheap, small form factor PC would be fine for that

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I just ordered one for $119

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although it sounds like you're really trying to build a NAS that does other things...

wraith girder
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Well he doesnā€™t need a lot of power i believe

gloomy elbow
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Plex depends if you need transcoding

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Intel is better for that if so

wraith girder
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For PLEX no need for big transcoding power because heā€™ll probably watch direct and itā€™s only him anyway

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Probably sharing his PLEX with 2 other people

cold moon
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Quadro p400 for gpu transcoding works well but theyā€™ve gone up in price a bit. They used to be $99

quick quiver
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Is this the channel to ask device questions?

unique lantern
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Usually, unless it's something like Zigbee or Z-Wave

quick quiver
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ahh

outer knotBOT
#
The topic of this channel is:

There's a channel for #yellow-archived if you have questions about it.

Questions about a hardware device (not their #integrations-archived with HA, and not the thing that HA calls devices)? Someone might have the same device and be able to help you out! If you've got a Z-Wave or Zigbee devices, see #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived, #cameras-archived for cameras, and #diy-archived for making your own stuff (or if you're asking about Tasmota or ESPHome).

If you have problems with the Blue or your installation see #installation-archived.

If you want to share images, use https://imgur.com/ or similar.

Please use https://www.codepile.net/ or https://paste.debian.net/ to share code or logs

random ridge
unique lantern
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No, they convert serial signals to/from USB

random ridge
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it stands for universal serial bus

unique lantern
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Well yes but also no. USB is a form of serial data transfer, but it's not RS232/UART

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If a device has a serial/UART port, you either need a serial port on your computer or a USB to serial converter

random ridge
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this doesn't seem very universal of the universal serial bus lol

unique lantern
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The term serial in universal serial bus just means the data isn't being transmitted in parallel the way something like a parallel printer cable does, it doesn't have anything to do with the serial communication standards like UART

random ridge
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gotta convert my serial into different serial cuz the universal serial bus isn't actually universal

random ridge
unique lantern
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Same way SATA (Serial AT Attachment) isn't compatible with USB or UART. It replaced the old ATA or parallel ATA

gloomy elbow
random ridge
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dang i was hoping i could skip the usb to serial converter for my project lol

unique lantern
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If you have something like a Raspberry Pi sitting around, they have GPIO pins onboard that can be used for a serial connection. I managed to flash a Sonoff S31 with Tasmota using a pi

random ridge
ember trench
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can anybody recommend small zigbee/lora temperature sensors?, the kind you would toss in a fridge and forget?

vale sky
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--Moved to Zigbee--- I'm having an issue with my Aqara motion sensor randomly not responding to motion. I have it in my laundry room, and 6 days out of 7 it woks as normal, it detects motion, turns a light its linked to on, stays on until you leave the room, then the light turns off. but that one day a week it acts like it doesn't exist. both the motion sensor and the light are both showing online, no issues showing with either of them. Is this something that has to be reset/restarted fairly often?

unique lantern
full belfry
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i dunno if this is the right place, but has anyone used the espresense on an ASP32 with a pixel phone and/or watch??? im having issues with getting it to detect when im NOT in the room, it always thinks im in there

wraith girder
loud birch
pure blade
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One message removed from a suspended account.

zealous dune
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many people do

pure blade
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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

gloomy elbow
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Are your lights dimmable?

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I don't have the Sonoff, but when I tried to use a Lightwave switch on my kitchen lights they flickered as those are dimmable switches and the light is not a dimmable light.

pure blade
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One message removed from a suspended account.

gloomy elbow
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Buy new lights

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Dimmable switches work by reducing the amount of power to the bulb, even at full brightness you'll likely see flickering as it doesn't usually output 100%

zealous dune
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sonoff touch is a simple on/off switch

gloomy elbow
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Interesting, then it could be bad wiring?

zealous dune
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bad wiring or bad switch

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if the lights are flickering the current fluctuates for some reason

pure blade
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One message removed from a suspended account.

zealous dune
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so you've neglected to mention the fact you have no neutral switches

pure blade
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One message removed from a suspended account.

valid forge
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anyone using the eero 6PE with integrated thread and matter? is that working with HA and worth its money?

dusk gazelle
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does it exist a wall switch that you cant turn on and off and only watch power use?

fresh moat
dusk gazelle
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yes

cold moon
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idk of any smart switches that do power monitoring

fresh moat
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You could put a Shelly (shelly.cloud) behind the switch and not wire the switch.

cold moon
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although maybe the in wall shelly stuff

fresh moat
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Yup,

dusk gazelle
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If im putting it on like a fridge or freezer i dont want it to exedently turn off

cold moon
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that's not a switch

fresh moat
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Ah, so this switch controls an outlet?

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Or do you want an outlet that does power monitoring?

cold moon
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oh you have a switch controlling an outlet? that's oldschool

fresh moat
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Still common in some residential builds, helps builders save costs on lighting fixtures.

cold moon
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thought it was against new building codes

fresh moat
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Hmm, not that I'm aware of, but I have the code manual here...

dusk gazelle
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something like that

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but it cant cut the power, only see how much watt that is being used

cold moon
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is zwave a requirement or are zigbee/wifi also options?

fresh moat
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Canadian Electrical Code: 26-720, k: where a switched duplex receptacle is used instead of a lighting outlet and luminaire, the receptacle shall be considered as one of the wall-mounted receptacles meeting the requirements of Rule 26-724 a), provided that only half of the receptacle is switched;

dusk gazelle
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wifi is fine but not zigbee

cold moon
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then ya probably shelly is your best bet

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or some esphome outlet/plug assuming you dont really want a switch to control a plug

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that still isnt totally clear

fresh moat
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Or pull the switch, tie the wires together and use a smart outlet that monitors power

cold moon
fresh moat
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Just be sure that power loss recovery behaviour is always-on

fresh moat
cold moon
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yeah

fresh moat
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But, it's not saying it HAS to be severed, but that outlet only counts towards the requirements if that's the case there.

dusk gazelle
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ok let me try to explain again... Does it exist a smart power plug like that from aliexpress that only can see how much power is being drawn, and cant remotely be powered on and off

fresh moat
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Ah, you don't want a smart plug

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You want an inline amp-meter or something

cold moon
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ct clamp should work fine yea?

fresh moat
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That's one approach, but what is @dusk gazelle 's comfort level with #diy-archived?

dusk gazelle
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yea, sure i want to be able to see how much power my fridge and freezer is using, but not have the risk of something failing (like a smart plug suddenly turning the freezer of and everything smelting)

fresh moat
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smelting? How hot does it get where you are? šŸ˜‰

cold moon
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anything inline can fail and cause an issue.. that's a benefit of ct clamp in this scenario

dusk gazelle
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not that hot, but lets say im on vacation..

cold moon
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you could use a temperature sensor in fridge tho

fresh moat
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I'm joking, "smelting" is when you heat metals hot enough to burn off impurities.

cold moon
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and send a WEEWOOWEEWOO alert if that sensor detects temps above a normal limit

dusk gazelle
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so ice is not smelting?

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when it gets hot?

fresh moat
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Ice mets to water

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not smelts

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melts

cold moon
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smelting is melting two or more metals together

dusk gazelle
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well you live and learn

cold moon
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err "the extraction of metal from its ore by a process involving heating and melting.
"tin smelting""

fresh moat
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the extraction of metal from its ore by a process involving heating and melting

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not combining

cold moon
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ya i corrected with google

gloomy spoke
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it was also a source of endless amusement in junior high school

cold moon
fresh moat
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lol

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gross

cold moon
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hahaha

fresh moat
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@dusk gazelle Is this the only circuit you want to measure?

cold moon
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why not skip the power monitoring altogether?

glossy prism
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|| I even lost my genitalia in an unfortunate schmelting accident ||

cold moon
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you really just want to know if the fridge/freezer dies right?

dusk gazelle
cold moon
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ah ok, with your example above thought it was just to act on failure

fresh moat
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He just wants to be able to answer all those phone calls of kids asking if his fridge is running.

cold moon
fresh moat
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You're not wrong

cold moon
fresh moat
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awe

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@dusk gazelle If you think you might want to monitor multiple circuits, you'd be better off looking at a total home energy monitoring solution

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however, for one-offs, ESPHome can do that and there's other DIY ways

dusk gazelle
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Well actually its my dad that wants this. I made it so we can see how much power wee use right now, and we can turn on and off the hot water thank when electricity is very expensive... And now he wants to see how much power different things in our house use.

fresh moat
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As for an off-the-shelf point solution, ie: one circuit at source, I'm sure it exists outside of a smart plug, maybe Tuya?

cold moon
cold moon
fresh moat
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So that he goes whole-home right away

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Brultech FTW!

glossy prism
fresh moat
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All the Tuya stuff that fits seems to be DIN rail anyway

cold moon
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tuya and breaker box a match made in heaven

fresh moat
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That'll put you in heaven.

glossy prism
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Oh god

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Smart breakers just seem like a bad idea

fresh moat
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Nah, I was revisiting the Leviton videos just yesterday

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drooling over it

cold moon
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as long as it's just a regular breaker with added smarts i think it's fine

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same as smart smoke detectors etc

glossy prism
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As long as it's not possible to turn the breaker on, then yeah

fresh moat
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@dusk gazelle If you or your father aren't into the invasiveness of a CT-clamp based whole-home solution, Sense is pretty popular. Still requires two CT clamps but uses AI to determine individual loads. I also have an all on-prem requirement whenever I can, hence Bruletech/GreenEye

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oh, disco'd

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Surely Kill-A-Watt makes something that connects to WiFi

dusk gazelle
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thx will look in to that

fresh moat
cold moon
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when most smart plugs fail dont they still work the relay just gets stuck on and or power monitoring fails to work anymore?

glossy prism
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I think most smart plugs have NO relays, so if they fail it would fail as off

fresh moat
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I think you're correct on the NO assumption.

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Although, I've never taken one apart, they may also have an NC leg.

glossy prism
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Yeah, could possibly be reworked in that regard

fresh moat
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yup...but see previous comments around DIY

cold moon
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i think i was thinking of smart switches not plugs and them being overloaded killing the relay

glossy prism
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Same idea

fresh moat
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Yup, still a relay

glossy prism
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Probably mostly NO relays

cold moon
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derp

unique lantern
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If you overload them hard enough, the contacts weld together and become PC relays

cold moon
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I like the sound of that

tough garden
#

Hey there,
I'm going to receive my Skyconnect USB stick in a few days, and I'm looking for motion sensors. Right now I use Hue sensor and like them but they are a bit expensive (40ā‚¬). I saw a lot of people recommending Aqara presence sensors (25ā‚¬), but I find them ugly. Motion sensor is the primary use. Temperature and humidity would be nice. I'm based in France, What's your favorite one?

sick cobalt
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SSDā€¦ I assume even the cheapest slowest SSD is more than capable to run HA? , I mean is it worth paying for premium hardware

winged knoll
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Any SSD should be fine, as long as it's an actual SSD and not a USB thumb drive in disguise

gentle fossil
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you can potentially end up with a sd card when buying the cheapest ssd on aliexpress

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heck even the stores here sell dubious flash drives

valid forge
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anyone using the eero 6PE with integrated thread and matter? is that working with HA and worth its money?

jagged crypt
limber ridge
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anyone use the TP-Link/KASA bulbs? Do they still disable local control if you update firmware?

next spire
#

I apologize if this is a common question. I recently upgraded my home "server" from a RPi4 to a dell thin client running unraid. I was planning on running homeassistant in a docker container on the thin client b/c is the hardware is more powerful, but now I'm wondering if I should just install HassOS on the RPi4 to have a dedicated box. Advantage: never goes down when I restart the server. Disadvantage: maybe limited by the hardware? The RPi4 has 4gb ram. What do you think?

glossy prism
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How often are you rebooting the server? I probably reboot like two or three times a year at most

cold moon
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you have a thin client running unraid?

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do you mean mini pc?

next spire
next spire
cold moon
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weird

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why not just run haos on the thin client

next spire
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Because I'm running a bunch of other containers on it

cold moon
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if it was a nuc or mini/micro pc (more powerful) i think it would make more sense to use it for all the things

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if the pi4 is ssd booting it's an okay hass setup, i ran that for a year or so, but i still think a thin client, used laptop, mini pc, etc is a much better setup

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for example, once i moved off rpi4 ssd boot i found that certain dashboards loaded faster (to the tune of 2+ seconds faster) especially ones with a lot of camera streams on them

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no actual speed increase of like.. automations tho

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just faster dashboards across all my devices

next spire
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So yeah the rpi is still just using an SD card while the thin client is using an SSD. I guess I was just searching for a use for this rpi now that i've migrated. Sounds like I should just put homeassistant on the thin client as well

cold moon
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oh if it's not ssd booting i definitely wouldnt use the pi4

next spire
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It's a pretty old processor (J5005) but still 3x faster than the rip

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rpi

cold moon
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i personally keep my network, server, and smart home all separate

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if laptop dies (that haos runs on), i still have network/cameras and server etc etc

next spire
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Yeah I have network and cameras separate... sounds like maybe I should buy another thin client from shopgoodwill.com for 40 bucks...

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Maybe I'll start with installing HA on this one and migrate in the future

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Thx for your help

cold moon
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never heard of that site

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seems it's like ebay?

next spire
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Sorta but it's from local goodwill shops. Has an auction but way less traffic than ebay. Got the Dell Wyse 5070 for 37 bucks, they normally go for 100+ on ebay

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Great source in the age of 150 dollar raspberry pi's

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Not sure if you're from the states but goodwill is like a used/donation secondhand shop

cold moon
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pretty cool

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yeah i'm in dallas

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you're getting pre-covid-thin-client-micro-pc-revolution-prices

next spire
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Ha yea I'm in Dallas too. Roads are fucked right now

cold moon
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yep

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i havent driven anywhere in two days

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prob not going to until friday

next spire
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I had to work this AM before it got bad and it was still dicey. My wife is pregnant and due in 2 days so I've mapped 3 different routes to the hospital

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When we moved here 4 years ago I was told it never snowed. That was a lie.

cold moon
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dont forget to keep an eye out for used laptops for haos

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you can get newer gen ones with a broken screen for cheap

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much better perf / $

next spire
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Built in battery seems nice

cold moon
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cant count on them being unspicy pillows

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but ya

cold moon
cold moon
next spire
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I've got a super clean server rack at this point so it's hard to deviate from something that fits the form factor

cold moon
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there's no real reason to put the laptop next to the server for hass

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zigbee/zwave/etc dongles gotta escape a rack due to usb 3.0 interference anyways

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well other than ups

next spire
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Yea I'm just dipping my toe in HA at this point and don't have any zigbee/zwave devices. Just got this home 6 months ago. UPS is in the rack as well

cold moon
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Thereā€™s some diy esphome options that might be better than off the shelf but I havenā€™t looked into them much

signal barn
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Anyone know of a quick and simple way to try and sort out why an esphome node repeatedly dropping offline? I haven't downloaded the logs yet, but it would be handy to know what I'm potentially looking for.

outer knotBOT
winged knoll
signal barn
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Thanks!

proper frost
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Just bought a tapo hub and tapo smart button

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Tapo is bullcrap

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0 compatibility

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Only their plugs and cameras

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Not even the hub, like bruh šŸ’€

gentle saddle
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Got my Skyconnect today - talk about timing! Plugged in, installed the Multiprotocol add on, selected auto update firmware, started up. Setup ZHA as per instructions, added some zigbee stuff. Veddy nice.

gusty bay
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For some reason i can't remove lights anymore (I only have 2) and they don't respond any more either.
[8:19 PM]joesmoe: I tried reformatting my SD card and reinstalling HASS but it didn't seem to help. I have a feeling that i need to reset the rasbee2 somehow, how do i do that?

winged knoll
verbal bison
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Anyone using SkyConnect in HA Docker under UnRAID?

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I'm trying to passthrough the SkyConnect to my HA-Docker installation, but ZHA won't install. In a VM it works by using multiple "USB" plugins to attach/detach it ..

kind wind
#

We are building a new home. For smart blinds, I'm trying to imagine what the low-voltage electrical schematic looks like but I'm guessing there has to be a switch in the circuit. Much light a light switch, no power is applied when the switch is open and closed causes the blinds motor to receive power. If I have that correct, how then does HA interact such that I don't need to operate the wall switch and instead use HA?

fringe crater
#

I would assume that a modern smart blind has a motor that always has power, and then if there is a wall switch it either use RF, or is just a dry contact sensor. Wouldn't these typically include a remote control as an option? That wouldn't work if you were killing power.

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When I looked at blinds they had several options for power, either battery, a wall wart, or a big power transformer brick that you install somewhere like in the attic and it could run 12V power to up to 10 sets of blinds.

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Lutron just used their proprietary RF frequency, I saw several that were controllable by Z-Wave, lots of wireless control options that could integrate with HA.

edgy fog
#

On this subject, does anyone know of a smart refit for existing blinds that have a pull-cord rather than a chain? I don't want to replace the entire blinds, because they match all the windows throughout the house,

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in the US, zwave or zigbee

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or matter, for that matter šŸ™‚

wind stone
#

Hi all - is anyone using the Aqara E1 blind motor? I'm using them with Zigbee2MQTT but for some reason if the blind is open and i then close it - the status reported through Z2MQTT never updates to show the blind is closed. Is there a setting I'm missing or something to have the status update reported?

unique lantern
kind wind
# fringe crater I would assume that a modern smart blind has a motor that always has power, and ...

I think between yours and my answers, we have the solution surrounded. With that said, I'm a simple guy. Does anyone have a schematic that shows me what I need to plan for in building the home? I will use wired (assuming 12V to blinds but I can adjust) but for the life of me, I cannot figure out what keeps the blinds moving up and down all the time without some sort of switch in the circuit. šŸ™ƒ

fringe crater
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Generally the motors are smart and have their own internal logic boards that tells them when to go up/down/stop.

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Figure out what you want to buy first, and then you can read the instructions for how to wire it.

kind wind
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i think I know what I want and I know the size wiring. I just didn't know if I needed something else in the circuit for home automation. As you describe it, that means without HA (or a remote which I typically lose) there's no way to move the blinds, correct?

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and I did look at the instructions for wiring the selection i've made. it uses a remote or a phone app in the explanation on how to use after install.

fringe crater
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I would be cautious with that product. If it uses a "phone app" it might be some cloud based thing which will be difficult or impossible to integrate. I assume your motor has wifi in it which it use to talk to the cloud, and it has an rf receiver to listen to remote changes. It may have a "wall switch" which would essentially just be another remote glued to the wall.

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So yes I would assume without a remote, or without wifi, there would be no way to move them (unless there's like a little manual secret switch on the motor base)

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If HA is important I would either get a z-wave/zigbee compatible blinds, or lutron, or something with an integration that is known to work. I would not assume you can rig up some kind of power override after the fact.

kind wind
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right now I'm leaning towards Lutron. That's my example above about remote and phone app discussion.

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moral of the story, I guess, is don't lose the remote.

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Moving on, if the low voltage panel is more centrally located to the blinds and away from what I call the "Tech Room", does that mean I need a hardwired connection from HA to this remote low voltage panel?

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(I know very little about how HA interacts with 'things'.)

sick cobalt
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other than a blind opener does any one know of a smart device that has a spiny motor?

unique lantern
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Water shutoff?

fringe crater
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I believe Lutron integrates via HA via their hub, so I think you should be good with those. It's all wireless, so you don't need to do anything special to the blinds to make them integrate. Just buy the hub. (but certainly research and be sure before dropping $$$$$)

honest wind
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Hi! Is there any word on the SkyConnect firmware update? If I'm correct I currently can only use it to create a Zigbee network, right? Where can I follow the development around SkyConnect? I'm currently a bit frustrated by my Thread devices disconnecting all the time and was hoping to fix this by creating a new network and not relying on homepods and apple tvs... So, any idea when the SkyConnect stick get the fw updates? Thanks šŸ™‚

rose musk
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Any recommendations for a smart doorbell?

I use nest now but I'm fed up with their pay per month scheme and there's always a good 3/4 seconds delay with doorbell sounds out of my google homes

devout zephyr
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@cold moon just wanted to get some recommendation on lower cost hardware to run NAS. Like it to be somewhat power efficient as well.

cold moon
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lower cost hardware such as used server gear?

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a lot of people are doing the mini pc revolution thing

devout zephyr
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doesn't have to be server actually don't have a place to store a large server either.

cold moon
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well how many drives will you be buying / expanding to?

devout zephyr
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I would say max 4 drives

cold moon
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that changes the form factor of cases you can buy

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oh lol

devout zephyr
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maybe 5.

cold moon
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so first find a case that you like that can hold like 8 or less drives

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then figure out form factor of motherboard that the case fits

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then figure out hardware required for the use case

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(mobo, cpu, ram, psu, gpu (for transcoding if necessary)

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i like whitebox ryzen builds myself (diy using amd cpus)

devout zephyr
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Ok what CPU would you start with.

cold moon
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what's the nas for

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is it an all in one device? is it only for storage?

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will you be hosting shit on it like plex and frigate and running VMs?

devout zephyr
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Sounds like Frigate at least. I have a cluster of M710q's I want to put to use for other things with proxmox.

cold moon
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so really you just need disk storage if you already have a proxmox cluster

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unless you're trying to offload the frigate processing stuff to the new server too

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right?

devout zephyr
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Right now running frigate on 1 of the 5 m710q's I have.

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im also considering if I want ot just do a direct attached storage for frigate so I can keep the large file copies off the network since I have only 1gbps. But my VIDEO network is on its own switch as well.

devout zephyr
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not looking to offload processing don't see a need for it right now the m710q is running fine.

limpid dome
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Hello home automation enthusiasts šŸ™‚
Anyone who can recommend a review site of hardware for home automation? (if exists)
I'm missing a place where I can find inspiration for new products I would like to try out together with user reviews.
A bit like this: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/ just added user reviews and not only zigbee devices.

gloomy elbow
cold moon
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This discord++

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I like the subreddit but a lot of noobs give bad advice before others come correct them

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Stuff that would get shut down immediately here

gloomy spoke
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Tuya is awesome! Conbee is the best Zigbee stick!

cold moon
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Yepperz

gloomy spoke
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The earth is flat, but rounded at the edges!

cold moon
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Rob I have ice stuck to the roof of my car and I have no scraper what do

unique lantern
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"Run Tuya Zigbee stuff with a Conbee II on a Raspberry Pi running Ubuntu and HA Supervised" šŸ™ƒ

marsh spoke
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Hello, can I have a Home Assistant, NAS server and regular Windows experience on the same PC? All at once.
I'm considering buying a PC for my parents and also making it into a NAS and Home Assistant device and I just wonder if they will actually be able to use it while it's also doing it's NAS and home assistant duties.

Tell me if I'm dumb.

gloomy spoke
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cut the plug off an extension cord and melt it by sticking the ends into the ice

cold moon
cold moon
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With that being said I wouldnā€™t

marsh spoke
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why not?

cold moon
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So you want your smart home, windows pc, and network storage all going down at once?

marsh spoke
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Why would it go down?

cold moon
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Are you asking why computers fail?

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Shit happens and putting all your eggs in one basket will bite you

fringe crater
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doesn't windows force reboot itself all the time now?

gloomy elbow
cold moon
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Haha

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Itā€™s all connected!

night atlas
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if it hard crashes i don't think it'll auto reboot

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actually depends if it triggers a bluescreen