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lilac wharf
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Anytime lol

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That reminds me... I can't tell you how many "15-minute" projects turn into 4-hour ones

silent thicket
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Exactly. I had a "few" minutes to get this up and running but I couldn't just leave it alone.

lilac wharf
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"oh yeah, this should be quick and easy"
three hours later
"Welp."

silent thicket
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well..maybe I'm not done yet

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lilac wharf
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Can't say I've seen that before, but I also don't use the addon version of zigbee2mqtt. Maybe wait a few minutes

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Also, another US/Central boi I see

silent thicket
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yep

violet dagger
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which coordinator is that?

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i had the same message when using EZSP firmware older than supported 6.7.something

silent thicket
molten linden
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If using z2m be sure to disable zha. Can’t have both talking to the coordinator or it’s like both parents yelling at a kid telling them different things- ie the outcome ain’t gonna be what you want

silent thicket
molten linden
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Looks like a screenshot form zha that’s why I said it

silent thicket
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Ahh yes. I did that to get the device info (the lazy way) and then shut it down

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It's sending MQTT packets to my broker but doesn't load the web UI and is stuck on that Assertion Failed issue.

violet dagger
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That gave no info about the coordinator or firmware

silent thicket
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Seems to be working now. I disabled a matter integration that had come over from the pi config when I initially imported that config to set up the yellow. Here is the controller info for reference.

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dusky gale
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did anyone know how to insall sonofff zigbee on synology dsm 7.0?

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I have searched google, but the solution is not working

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I still cannot find the hardware ttyUSB0

sour shadow
dusky gale
royal houndBOT
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@dusky gale When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

Command '~reply' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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That's a USB connected one, which is why you're having problems with Synology

dusky gale
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I brought this. It is able to run under dsm 6.x on synlonogy nas, but cannot run under dsm 7.0

sour shadow
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That's why I recommended changing to a network connected one

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Your other option is to join the many people angry at Synology and complain to them...

dusky gale
sour shadow
full acorn
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Hi, I am using zigbee integration "Zigbee Home Automation"

sour shadow
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ZHA? Zigbee2MQTT? deCONZ?

full acorn
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Now I have integrated 19 aqara sensors, 12 more are missing. The zigbee stick doesnt find new ones (I tried 2). Is there a trick? I restartet the pi und ha. No effect

dusky gale
royal houndBOT
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@dusky gale When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

Command '~reply' was invoked by: Tinkerer
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When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

Command '~reply' was invoked by: isaac1232011
sour shadow
dusky gale
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Oh sorry

sour shadow
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At least you finally managed to not tag me on a damn reply

full acorn
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Any ideas how to solve my problem? 7 sensors (same modell) are working...

lilac wharf
# dusky gale Zigbee 2mqtt. It is because z2b support more device than zha

this is a common misconception... it's hard to say which supports more devices because ZHA doesn't have an official device support list. ZHA assumes zigbee devices follow the spec, and if they do, then they're supported automatically. if they don't, support needs to be added. z2m requires explicit support for all devices. z2m does probably support more non-spec-compliant devices just because of how many more people work on z2m than ZHA

fading briar
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I hope it's OK to ask this here, if not, please direct me to the right place.
I'm looking for a dimmable Zigbee bulb that will dim down to a very low lumen output. Most bulbs specify Max output but few if any specify Min output. Anybody have any suggestions for a bulb or for a place/way to research that? Amazon is, as one would expect, a useless mess of lack of info.

molten linden
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hue have the lowest dimming of any zigbee bulb I've used.

lilac wharf
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specifically the adjustable white and white/color ones though

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the white-only ones don't dim as low

molten linden
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I don't buy 2700K only

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so yeah

lilac wharf
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i was looking for a specific model number though, because philips released brighter models, and i have no clue if those still dim as low

fading briar
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I was thinking that a full color bulb, when at min lumen and turned to red would probably be easiest on the eyes at night.

lilac wharf
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9290012573A is the white/color lamp that i have

molten linden
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I have some of those coming today. (the adjustable white 75 watt equiv)

lilac wharf
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ooo

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i don't use many hue lights these days

molten linden
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i'm moving to either hue or innr for all bulbs. they just work better. lol

lilac wharf
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the vast majority of my smart lights these days are ones i've flashed tasmota on

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i use hue lights in a few spots where i need the longer transition times that hue offers

fading briar
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I've only got a few bulbs so far - I picked up some Sengled because they were the brightest I found at a reasonable price. Then I realized that they were far too bright at night. 😦

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thanks, gents, I'll take a look at the Hue noted above. Also, I'd found some Innr bulbs on Amazon. With all the random brands popping up, it's hard to know what's decent and what's not these days.

full acorn
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i tried another one. no pairing possible....

lime forum
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want to start with zigbee... few starting questions: which dongle do you recommend? I hesitate between Sonoff and Conbee... and then where best to find EU zigbee hardware? I started looking for smart plug with power measurement and zigbee... already a painful quest, especially since i live in belgium where we have a ground pin in power outlets...

mellow geode
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Don't buy a Conbee. Get anything CC2652 based (like the "Sonoff-P" dongle)

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AFAIK, most type E/F plugs work in both sockets and are correctly grounded then.

full acorn
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I got the cc2652p.

limpid tulip
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Why exactly people choose CC2652 over Conbee?
I keep hearing those recommendations but never heard technical reasons why exactly.

full acorn
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Now it says interview starting (blue) sbut it doent finish

austere patio
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CC2652 is cheaper and better supported. No reason not to choose it over the Conbee.

limpid tulip
jolly geode
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Can you recommend a cheap Zigbee Temperature and Humidity Sensor?

mighty river
sour shadow
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Can you recommend a cheap Zigbee

fading briar
lilac wharf
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Yeah

fading briar
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They'll be here tomorrow, those Hue wouldn't be here until a week from tomorrow... I'll keep 'em bookmarked, just in case.

brave nacelle
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any recommendations on a thermostat? mine is not responding to commands sent to it

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HA sees it, can tell the mode it's in and temp, just can't change temp or mode (heat to cool, vice versa)

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it's a centralite pearl

uneven ruin
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I made my own

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easier

brave nacelle
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just had a hydrometer fail to report literally anything

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the only entities it had was rssi and lqi lol

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rendering it useless

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hygrometer

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perhaps i'm thinking of this the wrong way - but should zigbee devices and entities basically all be plug and play? or do you have to do some config hacking?

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could be me, not the device(s)

golden escarp
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Hey gang. Anyone using Aqara zigbee wall switches? Just got my first one and working on wiring it up. Hoping to confirm with someone what the wires are before I connect it, since the instructions from Aqara aren’t clear. There’s four wires. Green (ground), white (neutral), black (load), and red. The red one isn’t mentioned in the instructions and I’m assuming it’s for a 3 way setup? Anyone know?

brave nacelle
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red is likely line

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going to the device

golden escarp
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Hmm

brave nacelle
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errr sorry

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rona fog

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line incoming power

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load to device

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sitting here in a cold sweat kinda rocking back and forth trying to stay awake sorry about that

golden escarp
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Lol np

brave nacelle
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either way does documentation mention auto detection of line/load by chance?

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my enbrighten switches have that

golden escarp
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Nope Aqara devices are great but their booklets in the box are notoriously bad

brave nacelle
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connect it, flip the switch, see if it works 🙂

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shouldn't do any harm if reversed

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actually scratch that

golden escarp
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Lol

brave nacelle
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i'm going back in my corner

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i should not be adulting today

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reversing polarity is bad

golden escarp
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Yep

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It’s ok, thursdays happen to the best of us 🙂

brave nacelle
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heh

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thermostat just started working

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guess i had to restart HA

golden escarp
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Got it working. You were right, sort of. In Aqara’s world black is line, red is load. Flipping them didn’t harm anything, just didn’t work.

cedar spindle
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Got a sonoff s40zbtpb plug. i expected it to adopt easily to my zigbee zha network in HA. no luck - it is not found when attempting to pair. am I thinking about this wrong or is it possible the sonoff plug is defective?

lilac wharf
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@cedar spindle double check that you actually got the zigbee version and not the WiFi version

full acorn
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Hi, I have still problems pairing more aqara sensors. I have the CC2652P Dongle and 22 paired devices + the dongle. Is there a limitation?

violet dagger
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yes but you're not that close to it

sour shadow
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Do you have any routers in that list of devices?

full acorn
sour shadow
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Are any of those 25 devices Zigbee routers?

full acorn
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No. Aqara temperature sensors, Aqara window sensors, IKEA Tradfri devices and 2 LEDs

sour shadow
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Well, there's your problem, you failed at the basics

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You need routers

full acorn
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And why am I able to pair 25 devices without a router? They are all working

sour shadow
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Range

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Those 25 are close enough to the coordinator

full acorn
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no

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Ine Sensor is more than 15 meters away

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The new ones, I want to pair are 0,5 cm away from the dongle

sour shadow
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Well, regardless, you don't have a mesh, you have a star. Try buying and installing some routers

full acorn
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I dont understand. Sorry. Is the cc2652P a router?

sour shadow
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If you flash it with router firmware, sure

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At that point it's not a coordinator though

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Check the pins for how Zigbee works

full acorn
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I still flashed it and paired 25 devices. They are all working

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Do you think, that I have a dongle (CC2652P) that is a coordinator and that I cannot onnect more devices?

crude otter
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so i have just got my ZigBee smoke detector (Aqara) and i notice it only shows as 'supported' on Z2M.. does anyone know how i can go about ensuring it works on ZHA also?

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it shows up in HA with a 'identify' button and an 'iaszone' binary sensor

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i was hoping that binary sensor was off/on for detected smoke, but it does not seem to be.

full acorn
sour shadow
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pins @full acorn

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Look for one by mono

waxen jungle
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Jeff, the way Zigbee thrives is by having more devices to re-broadcast the signals.

crude otter
waxen jungle
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You can easily enhance your current Zigbee network by adding a Zigbee smart plug, or other mains-powered Zigbee device. Mains-powered Zigbee devices will relay information from the coordinator to the nodes even if they are out of direct range of the coordinator.

full acorn
sour shadow
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The pinned messages @full acorn ... look for the 📌 icon at the top right of the window

full acorn
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PLease explain it in an easy way. It sounds like chinese for me

sour shadow
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When you've found that, look for a message posted by mono

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Scroll through the list, and you'll find it

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That article then explains how Zigbee works, though @waxen jungle gave a very good summary

crude otter
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that.

sour shadow
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Now how're they going to learn how to search the pinned messages 😛

crude otter
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true

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but now thats done, help me 😛

sour shadow
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I know nothing about ZHA's quirks

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They're documented though

waxen jungle
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Oh man, I can't wait for thread to actually take off.

sour shadow
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Give it another couple of years 😛

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I'm sure plenty of manufacturers will find a way of half-assing it though

full acorn
waxen jungle
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Hey @sour shadow ...you remember that time you at-everyone in the #zwave-archived channel? 😂 I came across a log of that earlier.

sour shadow
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Yes, and I have that saved 😄

waxen jungle
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Good, it should be a teaching moment for everyone. 😂

sour shadow
crude otter
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coordinator

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too slow 😦

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i'll go sit in the corner

full acorn
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So I think I have this setup, right?

sour shadow
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Wrong

waxen jungle
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That picture is not a good demonstration of Zigbee coordinators vs routers vs nodes.

sour shadow
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Also, that's a diagram of all router devices

waxen jungle
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Ahh, yes, because for some reason Zigbee light bulbs are DEFINITELY routers. Wait until your kid turns off all of the light switches...

sour shadow
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The article is better, but I've seen no good articles that explain Zigbee in "easy" terms - they're either far too high level, or immediately dive into the technical details

sour shadow
crude otter
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does my head in.

waxen jungle
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I listened to a podcast episode the other day that explained routers, border routers, and nodes quite well. Mind you the topic was thread, but it still applies.

full acorn
waxen jungle
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Your CC2652P is a Zigbee coordinator. Your 25 Aqara devices are nodes end devices.

full acorn
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Häh??? That is what I said

sour shadow
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End devices, not nodes 😛

waxen jungle
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🤦‍♂️

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Still considered nodes, no?

crude otter
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lol

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node

full acorn
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We are talking about coordinator or router

crude otter
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so who is the zha quirk master of the channel?

full acorn
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I have a coordinator, right?

sour shadow
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Coordinator == brains
Router == can relay packets for other devices too
End device == sleeps a lot, can't relay packets

waxen jungle
crude otter
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@sour shadow so my teenage kids are end devices?

sour shadow
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🤣

full acorn
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yes. Why cant I pair more devices? That is the main question

waxen jungle
crude otter
sour shadow
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50 in this case, assuming vaguely recent firmware

full acorn
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I dont have 50. Why cant I connect?

crude otter
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for the lols

waxen jungle
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@full acorn Unfortunately I am not familiar with the CC2652P. I personally use a CC2652R-based stick (the zzh!) and it is able to connect and maintain 80+ Zigbee devices.

full acorn
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I just tried another aqara window sensor. Pairing successful.

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Temperatur sensors dont work. I bought 9 ones, first 5 got paired, the last 4 ones dont get paired

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I dont understand why

waxen jungle
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So you may have had a device that has a manufacturer defect, which might be as small as two contacts on the circuit board being connected when they shouldn't be.

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Can you try to factory reset the temperature sensors and attempt pairing them again?

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Zigbee has been a huge headache for me in the past, because I am one to play with devices that aren't supported.

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Sometimes it takes multiple attempts to pair a Zigbee device to your network. Regardless, I highly recommend getting some Zigbee-based smart bulbs (Philips Hue, IKEA Tradfri, etc) or a couple of Zigbee smart plugs and spreading them out across your dwelling.

full acorn
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I dont think, that it is probably, that I buy 9 temperature sensors and 5 are working, 4 are defective. And I picked up the 4 workings ones at first...

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I dont have a range problem. The distance while pairing is less than 1 cm!

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And I have smart bulbs (9 ones).

waxen jungle
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Are your smart bulbs currently paired to the same CC2652P Zigbee dongle?

crude otter
waxen jungle
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And I do trust that range is not the issue -- as Tinkerer previously said, 50 was the maximum device count on a recent firmware. If you're using an older firmware it could be many less, possibly 30 or less.

full acorn
lime forum
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@mellow geode @full acorn thank you... i was spirited away into a meeing yesterday 🙂

full acorn
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I have 7 more sensors here I want to pair. 3 window and 4 temperatur sensors

waxen jungle
full acorn
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I will try another window sensor

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Window sensor gets paired directly. Temperatur doesnt

crude otter
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hmm, looking at the Z2M page for it..

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it shows a minimum firmware version required

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20211114

waxen jungle
full acorn
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all 4 temperature sensors cannot get paired. 5 ones (same modell, all delivered wednesday) are working

crude otter
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my device is... CC1352/CC2652, Z-Stack 3.30+ (build 20210120)

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so the firmware is 'too old' also

full acorn
full acorn
crude otter
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im looking at how to flash it now

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i wont have repair things, will i?

waxen jungle
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Make sure you back up your Zigbee network.

full acorn
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A wrong/old firmware would be a explanation if all temp sensors are not working

waxen jungle
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It's also possible that the temp sensors do not all have the same firmware installed on them. I am not suggesting that this is the issue, but just that it is a possibility.

crude otter
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hmm, i have to pull the stick apart

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and use windows to flash firmware

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yay.

waxen jungle
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is so thankful that he invested in 5 zzh! dongles last year 🙏

crude otter
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sshhh

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lol

waxen jungle
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No, zzhhhhhhhh

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In all fairness, I gave away 3 of the 5 zzh! dongles I bought.

crude otter
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you didnt send one to me though

round grotto
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hey

waxen jungle
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Hi.

round grotto
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how can I edit or add .ddf files for deconz in Home Assistant?

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trying to add a ddf file for the new aqara e1 thermostat which is not supported by now

waxen jungle
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I am not familiar with deCONZ, so I will have to wait for someone else to chime in on that.

sour shadow
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In theory, however it supports external DDF files should work with the add-on

crude otter
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i cant get the dongle to enter bootloader mode

round grotto
sour shadow
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Well, you largely don't, that's not how Docker works

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Does deCONZ support external DDF files?

round grotto
sour shadow
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I'm guessing you're trying to say yes?

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A picture isn't always worth a thousand words

round grotto
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😄

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I can open a ddf file from the VNC connection

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but the folders are not accessable via HA

sour shadow
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It's possible that the Docker image that the add-on is built on doesn't support that, or the add-on doesn't

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Have you tried asking in the deCONZ Discord?

royal houndBOT
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deCONZ by dresden elektronik is a software that communicates with ConBee/RaspBee Zigbee gateways and exposes Zigbee devices that are connected to the gateway. Our #zigbee-archived channel is a good place to ask about using it with Home Assistant, but they also have their own Discord server.

Command '~deconz' was invoked by: Tinkerer
round grotto
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didnt know there is one

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I will try it there, thank you!!

crude otter
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ok, firmware updated

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build 20220219

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so now i just need some guru to translate the Z2M working quirk or whatever, into ZHA

south moth
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A weird issue. Using deconz with Conbee 2 for a 1.5 years now. Several Aqara motion sensors keep becoming unavailable. The last time one sensor became unavailable and I disabled it in HA. Now, I re-added it in Phoscon and can see it reporting in deconz. But it won’t appear in HA. I tried to enable the ’old’ device but it’s still unavailable. The new device does not show at all in HA. Tried re-adding it several times. Any ideas?

crude otter
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hmm, there is a 'V2' of the Sonoff Zigbee Dongle Plus thing

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Based on EFR32MG21

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interesting

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with the +20dBm gain by default

lilac wharf
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Yep, CC2652 shortage, apparently

crude otter
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is the new version 'better' by chance?

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or just a substitute because of lack of other chips

lilac wharf
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Just a substitute

crude otter
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fair enough

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ive got a spare of the 'v1' on hand anyway, just incase the first one fails

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because i did have that nvram corruption issue a while back

sage plume
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okay, I seem to be having tons of trouble with these Salus SP600 smartplugs, I've seen it suggestedthat they will sometimes powercycle (the behaviour Im seeing) if they lose connection to the controller, but not sure how to test that with zigbee2mqtt?

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I've been manually watching the LQI, but its not really a useful metric given how inconsistant and random it seems to be

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(I've been looking at getting some sort of POE based router to help.. but I want to confirm this is in fact the issue before spending money

sage plume
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Hm.. so plugged in Zigbee devices automatically act as repeaters?.. weird, dont get how I could be having signal issues then..

sour shadow
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Well, yes, but ... maybe no

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It's almost certain that any other router devices will consider them for a new route. End devices however ... shrug

austere patio
sage plume
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Is there a way to tell what might be going on then? Its a bit distressing just having your smart plugs just turn on/off at apparently random

sour shadow
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Set the Z2M log level to info and check the log to see what's going on?

sage plume
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The problem is, that means watching the z2m logs non stop, I cant even refresh/move the window and this only happens very few hours

sour shadow
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The log file is written to disk

sage plume
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Ooh? where would I find that

sour shadow
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In the same folder as the config file

lilac wharf
sour shadow
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It's carefully hidden under the folder name logs/

sage plume
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AAh well weith a name like that how's anyone supposed to find it, I dint think it would be avaiable in the HA enviroment due to all those dockers/abstraction layers

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but thats a much simpler way to montior it

agile birch
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any recommended zigbee thermostats? I am in need of a new thermostat....anyone have experience with the Centralite Pearl?

final wagon
agile birch
final wagon
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Does anyone use Sonoff S31 Lites? I connected them through the HubZ Smart Home controller but when I click into it, it say device has no entities. Is this normal?

final wagon
nova flint
plucky portal
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Hello. Someone that can be my hero and help me get my sonoff zigbee dongle working with zigbee2mqtt? I have watched so many videos that says different settings 😦

lilac wharf
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what issue are you having?

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also, do you have the Sonoff 3.0 Plus-P or Plus-E?

frigid mica
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Z stick recommendations?

lilac wharf
plucky portal
lilac wharf
lilac wharf
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also, you'd be better off using the /dev/serial/by-id path for the stick

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oh and what do the logs say

plucky portal
lilac wharf
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it sounds like you're trying to use the zigbee2mqtt addon, is that right?

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either way, you could just tear it down and start over

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but that adapter would work fine with ZHA if you're not set on z2m

plucky portal
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Yes and Mosquitto broker?

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I will try a guide for ZHA. Until we meet again, thank you! 😄

frigid mica
lilac wharf
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Slaesh? yeah, there were some issues initially lol

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no clue about current state

frigid mica
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So there’s no goto brand?

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Just “some dude”s stick

lilac wharf
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i mean, ZZH and tube's offerings are good

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you can roll the dice with the sonoff zb dongle (sigh) plus 3.0 though

austere patio
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"Some dude's" stick is better than the branded stuff so I wouldn't discount it 😆

lilac wharf
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that too lol

austere patio
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First on the market and most well-tested at the moment but the Sonoff stuff is cheaper but has very rare problems that haven't been seen with other sticks.

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At the end of the day they all use the exact same chip, no real difference other than construction quality and engineering

tropic depot
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Tube's stuff just works

plucky portal
weak burrow
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Hi guys ! Quick question about updating zigbee2mqtt coordiantor. I have been told, that I can update the coordiantor firmware without a need to pair all device again, but everything is offline :/ Was it even a true?

austere patio
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Which coordinator?

weak burrow
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SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus ZBDongle-P

sour shadow
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I've updated CC2652 coordinators - including that one - many times without issues

lilac wharf
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Sometimes you do need to go around and perform actions on the routers to get things "woken up" (such as pressing the power button on smart plugs)

weak burrow
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Ok, thanks, so it should work. I am going to try.

frigid mica
lilac wharf
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It's the same chipset, so the only differences would be build quality, and I can't speak to that

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But tube is also here and active

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So...that wins I would think

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TOOB

austere patio
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Tube also makes Ethernet-connected coordinators, not just USB ones (though he does make those too), so it depends on your installation

sour shadow
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Slaesh has historically had terrible customer service - I don't know if they've improved (that is, they've actually learned how to communicate with customers)

lilac wharf
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And tube also uses the finest organic non-GMO silicon, so there's that

austere patio
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I've honestly not come across anyone using Slaesh's stick in a really long time. Not even sure if he's shipping.

frigid mica
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I just bought tubes

sour shadow
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I'd buy Tube, or Electrolama, over just about anybody else

frigid mica
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No way I'd buy slaesh's unless you said it was worlds better

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I bought the USB one, no point in ethernet when I can add the chip on later

austere patio
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I don't think you can convert Tube's non-ethernet coordinator into an ethernet one

frigid mica
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if you actually need to

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look at the video I mean

austere patio
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Ah, I thought his USB one was a different form factor

lilac wharf
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Bet you feel stupid now

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|| /s ||

frigid mica
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I only noticed because the video is linked in the description for the product

weak burrow
frigid mica
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I was about to buy the ethernet cause it could do both but I have like 8983492 of those ethernet port chips lying around

lilac wharf
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's'lotta chips

frigid mica
#

I've been hitting aliexpress pretty hard

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soooo cheap

lilac wharf
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but at what cost?

frigid mica
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cheap

lilac wharf
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But

final wagon
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Does anyone use Sonoff S31 Lites? I connected them through the HubZ Smart Home controller but when I click into it, it say device has no entities. Is this normal? Can I add entities to it?

woeful sentinel
#

dear god my IKEA shade is possessed. every time i plug the battery in, it starts going up and down randomly, constantly over and over again

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it was fine before i took the battery out and charged it

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it's like... all the things HA scripted it to do while it was charging got queued up and when it reconnected to Z2M, it was like a garden hose

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i let it run for 30 minutes and it finally ceased, but then it dropped off Z2M and couldn't be controlled

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any idea what could be going on?

cedar spindle
mighty river
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Hi guys. I'm trying to integrate ZHA after installing tasmota firmware in my Sonoff ZB Bridge

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But after adding IP Address and Speed I get the message "Failed to connect"

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Anyone with similar experience?

austere patio
molten linden
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👂

mighty river
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Hi @austere patio , yes

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I have even changed from 8888 to 7777 in the console just for giving another try

molten linden
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that's supposed to be an ear since I hear people talking about me .. but it looks pretty weird big like that😂

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I survived a Vocabulary day parade today so I'm full of it

austere patio
frigid mica
molten linden
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many thanks!

mighty river
molten linden
frigid mica
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Np, now just gotta buy something to go with it

molten linden
#

also lets people changer their minds smart

mighty river
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@austere patio it worked after the re-start! Thanks a lot.

cedar spindle
crude otter
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Anyone around that can help add support for a device to zha? The device is apparently well supported in z2m

austere patio
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What are you trying to do?

crude otter
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get that working in ZHA

austere patio
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Is there an existing PR open for it in quirks?

crude otter
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i have not checked yet, it only arrived yesterday

fair mountain
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Im not sure I would rely on Aqara for a life safety device, does that thing even have (c)UL certification?

#

Living dangerously.

crude otter
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we have interlinked smoke detectors in every room

restive tartan
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I'm planning to get one too later this year, to put close to the 3d printer. If stuff catch fire I can cut power 😬

crude otter
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^

silver timber
#

I could use some wisdom. I set up an aqara door sensor onto my zigbee network, and while the unit is being detected, it seems "stuck" on the current setting. No matter how close I move them, the door still reports open (prior to resetting and re-adding the unit, it was only reporting closed). This is happening no matter how closely I move to my zigbee source

#

actually, once I set the battery timeout to 120 seconds, theyre showing as unavailable. I may have answered my own question 😄

#

I have a zigbee plug a few feet away within line of sight working fine, not sure why this won't reconnect..

spring smelt
#

I’ve got a room with 6 zigbee recessed lights. I set up a Zigbee group for them in ZHA, and basically never want to toggle one bulb at a time.

Each light device also has some additional Configuration/Diagnostic entities too, which I don’t want to see on the dashboard but would want to be able to occasionally check on

Should I just hide each of the individual entities?

austere patio
regal bluff
#

I bought two of these Zigbee metering power plugs https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004106098622.html
One of them works flawless, even far from my Conbee ZigBee Coordinator. The other one is hardly ever available, even when plugged in very close to the plug. Any recommendations?
I contacted the seller, but he is telling me to run it on a Tuya ZigBee Hub -.- which is not very helpful

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Any possibility to improve the situation or help and experience on discussions with sellers on AliExpress?

violet dagger
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Is the plug advertised in the seller description as working on Conbee?

regal bluff
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It says a Tuya ZigBee Hub required.
I went from a recommendation from the home assistant forum and as said the second one is working fine.

violet dagger
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Why do you expect help from the seller when you're not using it in the intended way, not to mention seller is just that, they have no clue about how to support the product

regal bluff
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Was hoping to get a refund accepted or a replacement unit ... I guess I won't buy a further plug from them if it is a hit and miss.

violet dagger
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The fact that you're using Conbee, a problematic coordinator and a Tuya device sometimes results in the situation you have now and you can toss the plug or try a different coordinator

regal bluff
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Is the Sky connect going to be less problematic?

violet dagger
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If I were a fortune teller I wouldnt be hanging around here

#

But again, most coordinators are less problematic than Conbee

regal bluff
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When I started with home assistant I have not read any bad reviews on the Conbee II now that's what I am stuck with. I had no reason to change, as all connected Ikea, Hue, Osram/Ledvance and Aqara devices are working.

#

Thought about getting the Sky connect simply to support the community a little.

violet dagger
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That's a good way to support yes

regal bluff
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I am just afraid moving from one to another and potentially moving from Deconz to ZHA or Z2Mqtt will cause some work and renaming of many ZigBee devices and entities.

violet dagger
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Tuya is a hit and miss on all coordinators, the cheaper the device the more chance it's gonna work only sometime

#

You pay for the price difference in the end

regal bluff
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I wanted to monitor the power consumption of my dishwasher. Initially I tried a Shelly Plug S. But the Amps on that are not sufficient to run the dishwasher, that's where I found this Tuya switch, that supports up to 16A

violet dagger
regal bluff
#

Thanks for the advice unfortunately it's not available when I open the links. Maybe I can find it somewhere else

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Great work by the way on the NS Panel Pro. Really tempted to get one whilst it's reduced in price... Not sure about the experience yet. Processing power could be a little higher to have the UI more fluid I guess, but I like the size and ability to replace a standard switch.

violet dagger
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If you're aware of the limitations it's a decent way to control the home. I basically plan on treating it as light controller with bonus features

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If someone expects a main control hub a 10 inch modern tablet is a better choice

regal bluff
#

When running home assistant all, or WebView, is the display properly going to sleep and waking up upon motion or touch?

crude otter
#

can someone point me in the right direction to start trying to create a ZHA quirk, based on information from a supported Z2M device?

mellow geode
regal bluff
#

I found SHP15 for ~27€

tropic depot
violet dagger
full acorn
#

are the current IKEA remotes/shortcuts vbuttons not workig any more with ZHA?

golden escarp
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Hi folks. I have a Hue motion sensor connected via Z2M. Is there a way to get it to trigger reporting when the light level in the room changes? By default it seems to only trigger immediate reporting on motion detection

sour shadow
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Under the Reporting tab (in Z2M) check to see if you can configure it to report more often

#

My Xiaomi lux sensors look like this by default

unknown.png
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I've set most of mine to report at changes of 200 instead

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(obviously you have to wake it when you change the setting)

golden escarp
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I changed both min rep level and min rep change to 1 and then hit apply. is there anything else I need to do to get it to accept those values?

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by default it was 10 for min internal and 5 for min rep

sour shadow
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That should be it, you'd get a red box if it timed out

#

Did you wake it?

golden escarp
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how do you wake it

sour shadow
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The same button you use for pairing, just give it a tap

golden escarp
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gotcha

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ok the change applied but I'm guessing the new values are too low. the lights turned on & off several times within seconds of walking into the room lol. Time for some trial and error...

stiff dove
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hey, does anybody here use the Sengled E13-N11 flood light with PIR and light sensor? I'm wondering if you can disable the automatic features built into the bulb (i.e. motion detected when dark, light turns on for 90 seconds) and I don't see any documentation one way or the other

unborn orbit
#

How much signal attenuation from coordinator do you think there would be with drywall? Was considering putting coordinator in ceiling above drywall so it doesn't show

sour shadow
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Angles matter more - the impact of drywall at 90 degrees is minimal since you're going through the shortest distance. The impact of it going through it at 45 degrees, or 30 degrees, will be higher

#

It's probably not going to be the end of the world either way

tardy bear
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Hello, does anyone know how I can set ikea trådfri lights connected to home assistant be set to specific settings after a power cycle? Example: I set it to warm light and turn it off with the physical light switch on the wall cutting power to it. Then when I turn the switch back on I would like it to go to a blank state: white light at maximum brightness.

obsidian night
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Hello. I'm having trouble with an Aqara motion sensor. I'm able to aquire it, but then nothing happens, no communications. I am running ZHA using a Sonoff USB EFR32MG21.
I have an Aqara door sensor and that one works fine.
Any ideas?

violet dagger
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Which aqara motion sensor?

obsidian night
violet dagger
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Does it discover entities? Is the battery full?

obsidian night
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Yes, it gets discovered. Battery says 84%. I can try a different battery.

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Right now, I'm trying to see if Z2M works better.

tropic depot
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Reset it and pair it again… while pairing it press the button on it 1x per second

obsidian night
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Yeah I tried that as well

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It gets discovered, but then nothing happens

tropic depot
#

I have a ton of them… they just work

violet dagger
#

Indeed they do

obsidian night
#

What Zigbee coordinator do you use?

tropic depot
#

Tube

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SI labs version

obsidian night
#

Might be that EFR32MG21 is the issue

tropic depot
#

no

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That’s the best supported radio on ZHA

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(I’m one of the devs if you don’t believe me)

#

😂

obsidian night
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Hah 🙂

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Meant no offense!

tropic depot
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None taken at all

obsidian night
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I'm just at a loss here. It might also be that the sensor is defective.

tropic depot
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Just heading off potential disagreement 😂

tropic depot
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restart HA

violet dagger
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Repair, preferably with a fresh battery

tropic depot
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test the sensor, if it isn’t working

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Then remove it with the remove device button on the device card. Press the button on the device to wake it

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Then wait about 1 minute and attempt to pair it again

obsidian night
#

Thing is, is the light supposed to flash when it detects motion?

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Because the only time I see the light flashing is when I press the button

tropic depot
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get a new battery

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As blackadder said

obsidian night
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Ok I'll try that, thx!

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Crap, of all the cell batteries I have, I don't have that one

#

Oh well, I'll just exchange it

#

If y'all say it works with the same hardware I'm using, it probably just means the sensor itself is defective

hidden vine
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Hey guys. I'm getting 'Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)' in Zigbee2mqtt. I've checked the FAQ regarding this error, and it's neither of those points. I got HA running on a rPi4, with a CC2652P attached to it with an extension cable. Does anyone know what could be wrong?

violet dagger
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Replug the adapter

hidden vine
violet dagger
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Replug then reboot the pi

hidden vine
#

I've tried those kind of steps 🙂

violet dagger
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Did it work previously?

hidden vine
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Oop, no. New stick.

sour shadow
#

Flash it with new firmware

violet dagger
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Then try without the cable

#

Make sure the port is correct

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If it works you know what to blame

hidden vine
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Tried without the cable - also to no avail 😦

#

Never flashed a stick before, so I'll check that out

#

Got this pre-flashed

violet dagger
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Does the mysterious CC2652P run the zstack firmware?

hidden vine
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Well... So they say

hidden vine
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Is there a way I could verify that myself?

violet dagger
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No since it can't connect 🙂

#

I'd assume it's not so might as well flash it with the firmware yourself

hidden vine
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I'll try and find out how to, thanks!

obsidian night
#

Anyone have experience with the Ikea motion sensors? Any good?

violet dagger
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Nah

obsidian night
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Ok thx, saved me some time and probably frustration!

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Apart from the aqara, what's a good motion sensor?

violet dagger
#

Hue, frient, probably others I have no experience with

native kiln
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im using z2mqtt, i moved a sensor physicaly and want to move it from to a new router, closer to its physical location, can it be done or do i have to re-pair it at its new location.

lilac wharf
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Many devices will reroute on their own

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But yeah, if you want to speed up the process in the least intrusive way (or if it's an Aqara which are known to be "sticky"), you could re-pair it to whatever router you want

native kiln
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@lilac wharf thx, its a aqara temp/humi sensor. have a look in the morning

frosty phoenix
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I’m getting the same issue. Did you resolve it? I can’t bind or unbind. It just hangs.

left juniper
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I did! For the remote, I kept pushing the buttons before and during bind which supposedly kept it awake. Then even though it looked stuck and was still binding, it started working and it was good to go

uneven gust
#

Zigbee2mqtt stops shortly after being started. I am running HA virtually on a win10 machine via virtualbox. it has been up a month now and running well. My Sonoff usb 3 dongle plus is integrated and I can see and control all my zigbee devices just fine. However when I start Zigbee2mqtt the Herdsman debug log reports Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-10-16 00:35:11: Failed to start zigbee, Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-10-16 00:35:11: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-10-16 00:35:11: Error: SRSP - SYS - getExtAddr after 6000ms. Thus zigbee2mqtt shuts down an I cannot run the web UI. I am stumped by this one as I know the dongle is communication to all my zigbee device. The path HA tells me in Hardware is {"path":"/dev/ttyUSB0"}}' and it is obviously functional so I must be mising something so obvious that debug does not even look for 🙂 Anyone seen this ?

lilac wharf
#

I can see and control all my Zigbee devices just fine

How are you able to do that if zigbee2mqtt won't start up? Thinkeyes

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By integrated, do you mean you have ZHA installed? If so, you won't be able to run zigbee2mqtt with that same stick unless you remove ZHA (and re-pair all of your devices)

uneven gust
#

yes ZHA is running, identifies and controls 7 devices.

lilac wharf
#

Yeah that's the issue

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If you want to use zigbee2mqtt with that adapter then you'll have to delete ZHA

uneven gust
#

my zigbee devices are mostly Sonoff but to control tuya and Moes I dont want to buy more hubs so zigbee2mqtt is required

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thanks for the input, I will venture down that path

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it is unfortunate they cannot coexixt

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co-exist

lilac wharf
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Zigbee2mqtt isn't required for Tuya and moes devices (although with how many more people work on z2m it's likely support arrives to z2m for those devices since they deviate from the zigbee spec)

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Tbh though, you'd be better off avoiding Tuya in general. Can't really speak to Moes

violet dagger
#

Moes is also Tuya

lilac wharf
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Oh fun

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Then yeah, avoid both heh

uneven gust
#

however , I do also have a sonoff wireless zigbee bridge. Is it possible to have both running different protocols

lilac wharf
#

You could use one with ZHA and the other with z2m, but then you've got two separate zigbee networks

uneven gust
#

yeah, the whole idea of HA is to be able to mingle a wide variety of hardware locally. Kinda love to joy of achieving it.

lilac wharf
#

Well yes, but two separate zigbee meshes isn't a great situation

uneven gust
#

OK nothing ventured, nothing gained. I will backup and delete ZHA. It is still wet and miserable morning here so might s well play with HA 😆 many thanks for your input. I still have much to learn

unborn orbit
uneven gust
#

Yes , when I purchased the tuya and Moes devices the understanding was I could flash them with MQTT which was my plan as I have done so with my sonoff devices. However Tuya quietly changed the chip to prevent this and so many of us got caught out.

lilac wharf
#

That didn't apply to zigbee devices though

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I also assume you mean Tasmota, not MQTT

uneven gust
#

yes Tasmota sorry

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So far everything I have with Tasmota has performed flawlessly

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now that OTA flashing is available it is so easy, no cables , soldering or physical hacking.

lilac wharf
#

Although cloudcutter is a thing now for certain Beken (and Realtek I think) chips which would allow you to flash LibreTuya OTA which is pretty damn cool

fresh citrus
#

Hello! I'm trying to use zha_toolkit to downgrade a lumi.plug.maeu01 to 20211209165104_OTA_lumi.plug.maeu01_0.0.0_0041_20211206_0C22EC.ota which supposed to work (i don't get any readings from the device except for temperature) but i don't understand how it works.
If i call the ota_notify i can't specify that firmware file anywhere? Or will it be used automatically since it's in the directory i specified?

sage plume
#

so, not making any progress with diagnosing tese dang Zigbee issues so going to try adding a router, thing I have questiona botu is some are ethernet/POE based which would be quite nice but do those actually use the ethernet port to connect back to zigbee2mqtt? or would the be simply using that for power purposes

sage plume
#

Hm.. if anyone is actually selling any or has them in stock of course, otherwise its a moot point...

sour shadow
#

So ideally antenna should be angled at

crude otter
#

id love to be able to use some sort of zigbee router/repeater that connects back via ethernet

#

i have issues with signal strength out in our detached garage

#

but i have multiple cat6 runs out to it

sour shadow
#

Sadly no such thing exists

crude otter
#

i know 😦

#

some mains powered device that joins the zigbee network and relays that info down the cat6 to the garage, where there is another 'router' that the garage devices connect via

#

that'd be amazing

sage plume
#

Yeah, thats what Im discovering, so 'routers' are only Zigbee protocol? Im just not sure if putting a wireless solution in here will fix this issue, the whole house isnt that big.. (I live in the UK ffs) and pretty much every device is mains powered, but im seeing what appearas to be low LQI in some locations (20-40) which apparently makes these Salus SP600 smart switches reboot

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and a router isnt cheap (looking about £60) which I'd prefer not to drop without being sure its going to actually help things

sour shadow
#

Yes, routers are a purely Zigbee thing, but almost every mains powered device is a Zigbee router

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Sure, you can buy a CC2652 based device and flash it, but I'm just using Innr plugs for my mesh and they're working just fine

crude otter
#

i have a couple Sonoff ZBMINIs i use

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and those IKEA Signal Repeaters

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oh, and the light bulbs.. until the kids turn them off at the wall... grr

#

ive been meaning to remove the switch 😛

sour shadow
#

The Sonoff devices seem to be a mixed bag, I've seen reports that they're not awesome routers

crude otter
#

the ZBMINI on my front deck has 9 devices on it at the moment

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some of those are other routers, of course

sage plume
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Hm, Im not sure why these plugs are having low LQI then. like 90% of my devices should be 'routers'

sour shadow
#

The LQI is just a guide - if stuff works ignore it

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I have devices with an LQI as low as 20, and they work just fine

crude otter
#

ZigBee is black magic

sage plume
#

ell, its 'mostly' working, bar these damned plugs that just at random decide "Hey Im going ot turn off and back on" for no obvious reason

sour shadow
#

Hell, my light in the hall is currently reporting 12, and it's responding instantly

atomic notch
#

Hi there, do you have any advice for a reliable Zigbee flush-mounted dimmer?

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Any experience with Tuya Dimmer? https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005003147900150.html?_randl_currency=EUR&_randl_shipto=DE&src=google&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=494-037-6276&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=14917676811&albag=127853744826&trgt=449349191507&crea=de1005003147900150&netw=u&device=c&albpg=449349191507&albpd=de1005003147900150&gclid=Cj0KCQjw166aBhDEARIsAMEyZh5niZXUBf4-wFIAjNai0REje4EaEsXtlDAbJIim8q-kgDmKAIRnT5gaAisFEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&aff_fcid=6ba4f1c17f764cfcb9b95701f9f96f12-1665916603558-06894-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=6ba4f1c17f764cfcb9b95701f9f96f12-1665916603558-06894-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=999c5f9ecec54b4cb3fc9195755e6e55&afSmartRedirect=y

sour shadow
#

Tuya abkneonno

rapid dawnBOT
#

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crude otter
#

Holy URL Barman

sour shadow
#

Yeah, people don't know they can shorten those

crude otter
#

AliExpress is strange

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now that ive gone to that URL, it defaults me to German

sour shadow
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Yeah

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I always use Incognito mode

crude otter
#

i am interested in zigbee dimmers actually

atomic notch
#

*Looking for a dimmer in Germany
*I like to save money, but do not want to buy crap, so I will spend as much as required
*Feature dimming, Power monitoring not required

atomic notch
#

Wow, thats quite costy... anything cheaper, which is also reliable?

sour shadow
#

Just avoid anything mentioning Tuya

#

Tuya is cheap for a reason

atomic notch
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😄 😄 😄

sage plume
#

Honestly after spending ages messing with trying to get LED's to dim.. just buy smart LED's -.-

atomic notch
#

One requirement I forgot... I do operate switches, no buttons. Is that any problem for most of the Hardware?

sage plume
#

Save yourself a LOT of ballache (If your not using LED's Im sure its much simpler but do they even sell non-LED lights anymore)

atomic notch
sour shadow
#

Dimmable LEDs aren't hard to get - you just have to be sure that they're actually dimmable, and that your dimmer will work with them. Newer dimmers should be fine

atomic notch
sage plume
#

"Should" being the key-word, Tried ... 4? different dimmers (Shelly, was one of them) with 3 different types of 'dimable' LED's and just had endless problems with flicker, lights switching off at low brightness, with them 'overheating' and shutting off

atomic notch
#

Short URL 😉

sage plume
#

ended up spending a small fortune on Hue/Ikea addressable bulbs and better for it frankly 😛

crude otter
#

i have a lot of downlights in this house

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and most have dimmers on them at the moment, without issue.. but being able to control the dimming would be handy

sage plume
#

Same here in our kitchen at the moment, Pretty sure they are ikea. it would be quite nice to get them merged into the HA/zibgee network but not sure how tod o that at the moment

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Maybe having something fitted in the socket would be a option, or swapping out the ikea power inverter for something that supports zigbee if such a thing exists

crude otter
#

i have downlights all throughout the house, and 2 pendant lights in the kitchen

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those pendants are IKEA and work fine (until the kids turn the switch off at the wall)

sage plume
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Jeez those Ubisys plugs are.. expensive, 99e is a lot for a smart-switch

tropic depot
#

If you’re in the US the inovelli blue series switches are great

sage plume
#

Nah, live in the backward UK at the moment, frankly we are lucky we have electricy 😉

balmy fossil
#

Ive got a couple of Zigbee devices (particularly Ikea E1746s) which are showing an OTA update available, when i click on the button Z2M updates the devices (i can see slowly progressing bar), but after its completed im ending up with same firmware version as before the update. Is it normal/known bug?

balmy fossil
sage plume
#

Tried those as well 😄 they dont seem to play nice if you dont have a netural wire (and using their 'bypass' caused an alarming behaviour)

crude otter
#

wiring without neutral in the walls is odd to me

#

then again, they do a lot of odd stuff in the UK

#

like putting hot water systems in the roof

sage plume
#

Its a weird country through and through

sage plume
#

Huh, apparently Growatt (an solar panel we are thinking of getting) has a Zigbee commuications module but it doesnt show up on the zigbee2mqtt database.. hmm

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(Im looking at what options exist for connecting the inverter to HA) 😄

unborn orbit
#

I've got about 130 devices on my zigbee network with another 40 or so i'm looking to add. most function as routers with maybe 20 end devices that are battery powered. i've had a lot of trouble with devices dropping off, delays in activation. I'm in a two story house that roughly 4800 square feet. Coordinator is CC2652 and chose a channel that doesn't overlap with 2.4ghz connections around me. Would it be a better idea to continue with a single network or am I reaching hte upper limits that a single coordinator can handle and should divide across two z2m instances with two separate coordinators/

sour shadow
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Try the latest dev firmware

lavish vault
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Does someone run home assistant os on a compute module io board with a conbee II stick? HAOs doesn’r recognize the stick. It is on an extention but not a powered usb hub. Is a powered usb-hub nexessary. ttyAMA0 shows up with it plugged in but no serial number

sour shadow
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AMA is for GPIO boards, not USB sticks

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USB sticks will show up as ttyACM or ttyUSB

lavish vault
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Alright. Then it doesn’t show up at all. Then it seems like I need a powered hub. A shame since the board is 12V powered

sour shadow
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I'd expect it to be detected even without one

sage plume
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If a device is not on the Zigbee2MQTT database, how much of a world of hurt would I be in for if I used a device not on that list 😄

lavish vault
sour shadow
#

Can you read and follow documentation, and Google?

sage plume
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Depends on the quality of the docs and whats actually on google

sour shadow
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It's mostly follow that (and the linked guides) and then use Google to find answers when you're unsure

sage plume
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Hm, kay

balmy fossil
sage plume
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Yeah I went through all of this, contacting Fibaro/Shelly..

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Ended up ripping it all out

balmy fossil
#

hmm sorry to hear, problems with permanently installed devices are super annoying. Just saying it works perfectly fine for me - also in the UK

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so the UK is not to blame 🙂

sage plume
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well maybe not for this one case 😉

lime forum
#

Hi all, what should i look out for when buying a smart plug on zigbee? E.g. does this work with all zigbee sticks? aixi-SHS ZigBee 3.0 Smart Plug

sour shadow
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#1 thing to avoid is anything mentioning Tuya

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Next you want to check if the plug you're interested in is supported by your chosen Zigbee integration

lime forum
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what is wrong with tuya?

sour shadow
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Wrong question

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The question is what's right with it 😉

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Tuya stuff is generally the least well behaved, and the most problematic, because it's built to a price

lime forum
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i thought zigbee was an open protocol, so was hoping the comms would be well defined and interoperable 🙂

sour shadow
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Also, most Tuya stuff is made by somebody else, and then the Tuya firmware is applied

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Tuya's firmware plays pretty damn loose with any standards they come across

lime forum
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that is good to know... next option was aqara

sour shadow
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Aqara also has quirks, but they're well known and mostly not a problem

lime forum
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i knew it was smart to ask here first 🙂

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i am a strong believer in open standards, but too long in IT to think that companies think the same

sour shadow
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Devices supporting Zigbee 3.0 are mostly better than older devices, but ... companies still find ways of ignoring standards

lime forum
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would zwave be a safer option to start with something? maybe wrong channel to ask 🙂

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i lean more to zigbee because of research experience and open standard, but have nothing yet

sour shadow
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Z-Wave will cost you a lot more

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An Aqara door/window sensor is about £9. A Z-Wave equivalent is about £35

lime forum
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that was another reason to lean towards zigbee 🙂

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was going to start with smart plug, aqara smart plug and sonoff stick?

sour shadow
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Buy a CC2652 stick, not their newer E stick

lime forum
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the one ending in P?

sour shadow
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Yes

lime forum
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would it make sense to wait for the HA stick or not?

sour shadow
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Up to you

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If you're going with ZHA you're fine with that, any CC2652 stick, or any current generation EZSP stick

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Personally I'd not buy a Zigbee stick that didn't have an external antenna

lime forum
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i was thinking similar, external antenna always helps

sour shadow
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I'm running Zigbee2MQTT with a CC2562 based coordinator (the Sonoff currently, was a Zig-A-Zig-Ah! from Electrolama before) with about 70 devices scattered around the house - largely Aqara

lime forum
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and no complaints?

sour shadow
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None

lime forum
#

thanks a lot for all the info!

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i will keep you posted about my adventures 😉

mighty river
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In zigbee2mqtt, I got a group with 18 lights and 4 different scenes depending on the illuminance outside. Problem is that when all lights are lit, and I change to a scene with just a few lights on, several of the lights that should turn off does not. But still reports as off by z2m. Someone else that has this issue?

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The groups i created in z2m, with the gui

mellow geode
wanton fractal
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Hi ive been looking for others with same problems but have found any. Anyone having issues with ZHA lightgroups. HA is spamming "[0x0000:zdo] Unknown ZDO cluster 0x0300" errors when changing light-temp on a ZHA light group or [0x0000:zdo] Unknown ZDO cluster 0x0008 when changing brightness on a ZHA light group. The brightness/tempo is beeing changed as wanted but its filling the log with "problems" also changing HA lightgroups or a light outsIde of a group doesnt output an error.
Using ZHA/CONBEEII/IKEA LIGHTS, all updated to latest firmware/versions inCluding HAOS.

twilit summit
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can the "Zigbee backup and restore in ZHA" functionality be abused to change channel on a Zigbee network without having to add all the devices again?

austere patio
unborn orbit
# sour shadow Try the latest dev firmware

New firmware seems to be working much better so far (though early in). Thanks again, had no idea new dev fw was available. Glad they made improvements for large networks

sudden crest
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What does "zigbee.db-wal" do? Like 0 search results online but that might because of some symbols. Just curious.

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(file next to zigbee.db)

bitter harbor
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it's a sqlite write-ahead log file

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one sec while I dig up a link about it

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you'll also see <db>-shm files

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the short, less-technical version, should that be desirable, is that write-ahead logging requires a couple extra semi-permanent files but creates performance benefits for sqlite

fresh citrus
sudden crest
plain saddle
#

Hi guys. Just wanted to thank whoever pointed me into the direction of HA + Tube Ethernet ZigBee gateway. No relays anymore and all my devices rock solid. Compared to Homey this is a dream

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It helps that HA on M1 Mac is a blast too

frigid prairie
#

please someone help me to add a custom cc2530 device flashed with ptvo firmware to zha

twilit summit
violet dagger
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zha is not firmware

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its an integration

fresh dragon
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hello, im reading a lot, but still confused and wanted to ask here, sonoff dongle -E or -P, any last opinions?

sour shadow
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Depends, using it with ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT?

fresh dragon
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currently using ZHA with first sonoff zbbridge

sour shadow
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Then either should be fine

fresh dragon
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and if i want to try Z2M -P(older one) will be better ?

sour shadow
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Yes

fresh dragon
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thanks

sour shadow
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Zigbee2MQTT has been developed primarily with the TI (CCxxxx) chips, and has the best support for those. Other sticks don't work as well, or have known issues.

slate yew
#

Iris smart kit from Lowe’s #0388554 uses zigbee? Do I need something to help it into home assistant and to use it with my Apple HomeKit?

sour shadow
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Do you already have a Zigbee mesh using ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT (or even deCONZ)?

slate yew
# sour shadow Do you already have a Zigbee mesh using ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT (or even deCONZ)?

No we have a ring doorbell, inside cam, a few kasa plugs, a nest. some Amazon stuff i have just started building a smart home trying to go for Amazon since we had iPhones lol I had been working on a raspberry home dock with home assistant and just found out about home bridge so I went and got a Apple TV hub for HomeKit. Seen this Lowes Iris Smart Kit #0388554 for a steal and was hoping I could maybe get something working 😂🤣

rapid dawnBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

sour shadow
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You need a coordinator (see there and the pinned messages) and your choice of ZHA or Z2M

twilit summit
#

sorry correction from earlier: can you update Z-Stack-firmware on a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB stick without having to resync every device? I'd like to change from the master branch to the develop branch

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I flashed the master branch before using a docker container (ckware/ti-cc-tool) which I could do again but I just don't want to reset everything again (60 devices and only just reset everything from hue to ZHA)

sour shadow
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Yes

mighty river
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In zigbee2mqtt, I got a group with 18 lights and 4 different scenes depending on the illuminance outside. Problem is that when all lights are lit, and I change to a scene with just a few lights on, several of the lights that should turn off does not. But still reports as off by z2m, the groups is created in z2m, with the gui. Someone that had a similar issue?

gloomy dirge
#

what's the difference between sensitivity and sensitivity max ? hue motion sensor

mellow geode
#

You can’t change sensitivity max

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It’s read-only to tell you the maximum sensitivity

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Sensitivity can then be set from 0 to max sensitivity

gloomy dirge
#

ah ok

mellow geode
#

SML001 only support 0, 1, 2 and all others 0-4 IIRC

gloomy dirge
#

but the SML001 have sensitivity. how can I change ?

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nvm, I found. thanks!

mighty river
final wagon
#

Does anyone have a mini split system they use with HA?

fair mountain
final wagon
fair mountain
#

What are you asking

final wagon
#

I haven't seen any stuff specifically for them but I imagine you could rewire it to use a sonoff mini or something along those lines

fair mountain
fair mountain
final wagon
fair mountain
#

I doubt you're going to be able to control one with a sonoffo

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Unless you have extensive experience reverse engineering proprietary communication protocols 🙂

#

Lots of them can output DBUS or something, but then you need to buy their $$ adapters.

final wagon
#

interesting

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thanks!

vapid sinew
#

Hello all, I am looking to replace a lot of sockets, switches, and plugs with Zigbee equipment. Or with something that can bridge between the wi-fi devices and zigbee. Either way, what is the best/good brand to work with in this arena?

raven jewel
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Step 1: Pick a way to connect to Zigbee devices, and then check the compatibility list

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Personally, I use Zigbee2MQTT, and they have a supported devices list

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You don't need to pick one brand, pick the devices that fulfil the need(s) you have

rapid dawnBOT
#

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
final wagon
#

so far i've tried sonoff and thirdreality plugs and both worked reasonably well*

tender harbor
#

HA newbie here with a newbie question and my google-foo is failing me. With the Inovelli blue switches, can I pair my Hue bulb directly to the switch (giving me survivability if HA and/or Hue is down) AND also pair to Hue hub so I can get neat scenes and fancy music light dancing?

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I see lots of stuff about pairing them to the switch and to HA, which I understand the reasoning, I'm just trying to figure out if you can do Switch+Hue Hub. For my use case it seems like the best of both worlds. Unless I'm missing something obvious, which is very likely.

cobalt dew
agile gorge
#

Hello all, I'm having issues with my conbe2 and want to switch to z2m, should I buy the skyconnect or other device?

cobalt dew
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If you want a VM then tube's ethernet to zigbee is neat

agile gorge
#

which sonoff dongle ? I really want something futur proof that's why I thought about skyconnect

cobalt dew
#

Fair enough

agile gorge
#

I have already HA in a VM, I passthrough the usb dongle

austere patio
#

SkyConnect is based on an EmberZNet chip. It's well-supported in ZHA (since it was the first radio type ZHA supported) but Z2M has only recently added support for it

agile gorge
#

I saw we can use Z2M with skyconnect too, thats why I was thinking about it

cobalt dew
#

Ah right that's what i did initially then went ethernet-dongle and flashed the sonoff's as routers

agile gorge
cobalt dew
agile gorge
cobalt dew
#

I like z2m

agile gorge
#

but i saw z2m accept more devices and have a lot of support

cobalt dew
#

its sort of whatever works for you

#

i got tube's eternet-zigbee and well at some stage I'll replace it when the repleacement is mature

mellow geode
#

But that's why there isn't a concrete list of what devices are supported with ZHA

austere patio
#

The side effect of this being that Z2M has a massive database, while ZHA just has what people report works

agile gorge
#

with skyconnect I could use ZHA or z2m?

austere patio
#

I've not verified if it works with Z2M but it probably does

agile gorge
#

"Same chipset at the HA Yellow which I am running Z2M on so no reason to think you couldn’t run SkyConnect with Z2M."

#

saw this in the thread about skyconnect

violet dagger
agile gorge
#

in resume, sonoff dongle (any link for this?) or skyconnect could be good

cobalt dew
#

If you can afford tube's device for z2m I'd suggest that unless there is newer tech.

violet dagger
#

That's a solid recommendation

agile gorge
#

tube's with ethernet is out-of-stock

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and is from USA

cobalt dew
agile gorge
#

can I buy it on Europe?

violet dagger
#

Murica!

cobalt dew
#

Where are you? he often ships fast

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He shipped to NZ fast

agile gorge
#

From USA I will pay taxes ans shit like that 😐

molten linden
#

oops just updated stock

violet dagger
#

That's life

cobalt dew
#

15% VAT....

agile gorge
# violet dagger That's life

lol Its ok to pay taxes, but pay 15€ just because they will sent an email to say You will pay 15€ + taxes xD

#

so item + 15€ + taxes is a bit 😐

cobalt dew
#

Well depending on your house I found moving the zigbee to the centre f my house where all the zigbee kit is helped no end. Ethernet makes that trivial.

agile gorge
#

I understand that, I have a lot of connected zigbee devices as "bridges" so I don't think I have range issues

#

but yes the tubes device is really interesting

cobalt dew
#

I will be doing a VM HA cluster so 3 nodes and hence ethernet is the way

molten linden
#

for what it's worth ||I don't declare the full retail price||

agile gorge
fair mountain
agile gorge
#

skyconnect will cost me 45€, sonoff 26€, tube 58€ + 15€ + taxes

#

is the price difference worth it?

austere patio
#

You're going to be spending way more on Zigbee devices whose functionality is entirely determined by the coordinator's stability

#

So I wouldn't base everything off of the coordinator's price

#

Tube sells PoE and Ethernet stuff, so it can be moved to a better spot. Sonoff is cheap but I occasionally see issues with it "breaking" and needing to be re-flashed and/or restored from a backup.

agile gorge
#

thats a really good point, but all my devices are "working" with my combe2 (the integration, saving states and everything is driving me nuts, thats why I want to change)

austere patio
#

Why not just use the Conbee with Z2M or ZHA then if it works? ZHA lets you migrate to any other adapter later on if the Conbee experiences its usual glitches.

agile gorge
#

I've always saw ppl telling combe2 only with deconz

austere patio
#

No, deCONZ only works with the Conbee

sour shadow
#

Also, the Skyconnect has an internal antenna, so likely reduced signal quality/strength compared to a coordinator with an external antenna - which is why I'd recommend something like Tube's devices over a Skyconnect

austere patio
#

External antenna size doesn't really mean much but I've not done any range tests with it

agile gorge
#

@molten linden they really want me to buy your product can I have a discount ? 😛

sour shadow
#

I'll second the cost point too - I've spent well north of £800 on Zigbee stuff, the cost of the coordinator is almost irrelevant

agile gorge
austere patio
#

Nope

#

Pretty sure Z2M will erase your network settings on the Conbee unless they exactly match what's in your Z2M config

agile gorge
#

and I assume I can't instaall deconz + z2m and use the same dongle

austere patio
#

Phoscon has a backup feature, you can use that just in case

agile gorge
#

well thanks to you all.
Resume:
1 option:
Backup phoscon
remove deconz
install z2m/zha + sync everything again 😭
2 option if 1 doesn't work well:
Choose between tube's device, skyconnect or sonoff (in this order)
remove deconz
install z2m/zha + sync everything again 😭

austere patio
#

If deCONZ set up attribute reporting for them, they will also be picked up automatically in like an hour as they send stuff

pine goblet
#

I own two tube coordinators at two properties. Both work amazing

frigid mica
#

I should clarify, what 3D printer did you use to make the case for your coordinator

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I’m looking to make/buy one

#

And I specifically want to make smarthome cases

molten linden
#

I now have 2 self built (from kits) Voron 2.4 300s

cobalt dew
#

Building a Voron is a big job I looked at it and went and bought an ender3 max neo.

molten linden
#

luckily when I bought first kit there was a long lead time, so I got myself properly prepared. bought the printed pieces from etsy, but in the end had to print a good number all my self on an CR6-SE and a make shift enclosure. here's the 2nd's first print in action 😉 https://twitter.com/TubesZb/status/1556038576516784129 now I'm going get in trouble for off topic lol

supple iris
#

How do I troubleshoot this? It doesn't tell me what device these delivery errors are for. I've had nothing but problems recently with all my sonoff zigbee devices and feels like no easy way to troubleshoot it and tell me where the error is.
Logger: homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base
Source: components/zha/core/channels/base.py:486
Integration: Zigbee Home Automation (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 23:45:39 (2 occurrences)
Last logged: 23:45:39

[0x231E:1:0x0006]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>')]
[0x8BD9:1:0x0006]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>')]

dusk jungle
#

Hello, im using a CC2531 zigbee dongle with zigbee2mqtt in homeassistant but somehow im not able to connect new devices. at first, it recognized two ikea sensors but now it isnt recognizing anything and the CC2531's led is turned off. when i try to restart zigbee2mqtt i get this error Can't create container from addon_7ad98f9c_zigbee2mqtt: 409 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/containers/create?name=addon_7ad98f9c_zigbee2mqtt: Conflict ("Conflict. The container name "/addon_7ad98f9c_zigbee2mqtt" is already in use by container "fdbe54d735967b3fd7e55abb3401350c5e5c2f6e230bb03534233d685900b343". You have to remove (or rename) that container to be able to reuse that name.")

sour shadow
#

The CC2531 is a terrible choice for anything other than testing

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I'm not sure how you remove a stopped add-on, #add-ons-archived may know the magic required

ripe remnant
#

So are zigbee dimmer plugs just not a thing? Checking Amazon US and all I can find is z-wave or proprietary wifi.

molten linden
#

I think enbrighten has one.

ripe remnant
restive tartan
#

Leviton has some too

austere patio
supple iris
austere patio
#

The device is likely considered offline at this point

#

Because those errors are just indicating that the device is unreachable

#

If you have no offline devices, make sure you're using a USB 2.0 extension cable to move the coordinator away from any sort of USB 3.0 ports or other sources of interference

supple iris
#

I have mostly offline devices now lol

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it's hard to tell, because when I click a device it doesn't say online or not, the log just says last heard from device like 4 hours ago

#

Yea the coordinator is about 6 ft above the server's USB port on top of the network rack

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then I have 2 more routers about 30 ft apart to get more coverage

austere patio
#

On top of or inside anything that would significantly reduce its range, like inside a big metal box? If most of your network is offline then either some very critical router that everything is routing through is not working, or the coordinator itself can't communicate with devices very well

supple iris
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outside the network rack, on top of it, antenna pointing up

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zip tied to the outside of it

#

every now and then I have to unplug and replug the routers

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maybe once every couple months

austere patio
#

Which routers?

supple iris
#

zigbee ones, to extend the signal

austere patio
#

Yeah, which ones?

supple iris
#

its the same as the coordinator, with the router firmware, sonoff usb 3.0 ones

austere patio
supple iris
#

I have debug logging on already, and yes very familiar with CLI. Never heard of an energy scan, so let me see what that is. Tnx

austere patio
#

If your coordinator isn't going to move around, you can install that package on another computer and do it through that instead

supple iris
#

hmm zigpy not found

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does HA not have that ?

austere patio
#

Installation instructions for the package are at the top of the README

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Not zigpy-cli, no

supple iris
#

ok

#

installing it in the HA docker

austere patio
#

Make sure ZHA is disabled, as otherwise neither will be able to connect to the radio's serial port

supple iris
#

yea it is

sour shadow
#

Sorry, I'd been under the impression you were using Z2M, not ZHA

#

Since, when I asked what integration you were using for the light, you said:

zigbee2mqtt?

sour shadow
#

@final pawn

availability:
  active:
    timeout: 15
  passive:
    timeout: 300
``` is my availability config for Z2M, tune the numbers to suit your devices
See <https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/configuration/device-availability.html#device-availability> for more information
tropic depot
#

The same thing exists in the zha configuration panel

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But is split mains / battery

sour shadow
#

Z2M's "advanced" is also split mains/battery (well, active/end-device)

brave nacelle
#

eh suddenly this enbrighten switch wants to be a piece of shit

#

can't re-associate

#

flashes 3 times, then that's that

#

tried resetting and nada

#

there it goes, 20 minutes later

#

just..unavailable

#

so no controls

#

heh

#

The device reconfiguration failed. Additional information may be available in the logs.

#

🙂

#

modern tech - gotta love it

tropic depot
#

ya

#

mains default to 2 hrs

#

yep

#

Zigbee devices will not accept color commands while off

#

with the new R8 spec some newer devices can

#

but it is rare atm

#

Hue and Innr are the only 2 I have seen work and it requires setting additional options

#

not a concern of ZHA IMO

paper gale
#

Hello all !
Does anyone have a aqara H1 interrupteur around here ?

violet dagger
#

Why?

spring smelt
lilac wharf
#

And then manually do the upgrades

austere patio
molten linden
#

I create a script every once in a while to pull down the hue fw since they are just links. Takes about a minute or 2 to parse the links from the index file

full dock
#

Are there remote Zigbee coordinators that work with HA? I mean a device that I can plug into the LAN and Zigbee devices can connect to it and show up in HA. Basically like the new Bluetooth Proxies but for Zigbee.

#

I mean, I could probably throw something together with USB-over-IP, but I'd rather not.

jade cargo
#

the tasmota website has some other models listed too

molten linden
full dock
molten linden
#

Raw serial over tcp

spark depot
#

Hi, I have recently switched from Conbee II to ZHA and now I am experiencing unexpected behaviour. Specifically toggling light groups (defined over ZHA, not the group helper) affects other lights that are not part of the group. Will attach screenshots below of the definition of a group kitchen containing three lights. Toggling it turns on the unrelated light hall upstairs as well.

https://imgur.com/a/PaCuSGc

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I will gladly provide any required configuration or missing information to diagnose the issue. (Kindly ping me when replying)

paper gale
# violet dagger Why?

Hey sorry for the delay, I'm having something weird about it. Like it was working fine. And since a few days, it doesn't trigger automation. It toggle everything on the ZigBee network (Ikea bulb led strip and stuff)
It just never goes through the automation I've set for it.

So I'm trying to see if it's a problème with home assistant or the H1

paper gale
spark depot
tulip patrol
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Hello, apologies if this is the incorrect channel: I've flashed silabs multipan RCP firmware to a ZBDONGLE-E and I'm using the silabs multiprotocol dev add-on. After configuring the add-on and attempting to add a ZHA integration, it fails to complete with error from add-on log: cannot open file /usr/local/etc/zigbeed.conf (rpi4 haos 9.2)

last ruin
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I see there are two version of the Sonoff dongle now. I have the old one. Can that device support Matter?

summer fable
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So, I got my ZBDongle-P, it's plugged in... which is better at this point in time, zha or zigbee2mqtt? 😄

last ruin
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My vote is for z2m

tulip patrol
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I've been using the zbdongle-p version for a few months with zha, no issues.

summer fable
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Now I just need a tie breaker 😄

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hmm, I hit zha just cos I figured "try it, you used zigbee2mqtt last time" and it's found a couple of "unk_manufacturer unk_model"

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also seems to be trying to steal devices from deconz 😄

tepid gorge
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I am using ZHA and I noticed that it is possible to choose “add devices via this device” on a IKEA lightbulb rather than on the controller itself. What does that mean? Also, can I have a motion sensor paired directly with the lightbulb to avoid having an automation to control the light?

balmy fossil
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Hi. Is there any benefit to buying Zigbee 3 devices (like window contact sensors) if ive got a Zigbee 3 gateway?

summer fable
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oh zha is being quite sweet, it clearly doesn't understand a couple of devices but setting it up is so much less painful than deconz was

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hmmm should all my devices be showing connected via zigbee coordinator? I thought some would show connection via the TRADFRI Signal Repeater or am I misunderstanding that field? - edit: nevermind I found the children screen for the TRADFRI and can see the devices that should be on it

tulip patrol
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@summer fable good stuff

tropic depot
raven jewel
# tepid gorge I am using ZHA and I noticed that it is possible to choose “add devices via this...

That allows you to pair something like an Aqara temperature sensor to a specific relay. So if you have:
Your office with your HA install and router in the corner of your hose
A powered outlet (say IKEA) in your kitchen.
A temperature sensor (Aqara) in your kitchen

You can pair that Aqara sensor specifically to the outlet, so that it has a nearby parent. Aqara sensors (perhaps not the newest ones) are known to not re-route themselves to get the best connection. They stick with what they knew when they were first paired. So this way you can force it into something that makes more sense. Just don't move the outlet later without re-pairing the sensor 😄

spark depot
forest arrow
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Good morning folks, I have been out of Home Automation for about 2 years now with a bunch of moving around. I am finally in my forever home and want to get back in to home automation. I used to use aqara door and window sensors and wanted to see if they were still a solid choice for door and window sensors or if there is a new direction I should be looking in? I want everything locally controlled, I was using a Sonoff Zigbee devices to manage them all in Home Assistant. Thanks in advance for any feedback. If I should ask this elsewhere please let me know.

raven jewel
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I'm very happy with mine, if you still have yours I'd say there's no reason not to use them at all. If you're looking for new, they're still some of the cheapest out there and they're nice and small too which is a definite win

sterile sleet
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Sometimes they get out of sync when i restart the mesh but usually they get corrected after a few minutes.
They are amongst the devices i don‘t ever had trouble with..

tepid gorge
raven jewel
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A motion sensor controlling a lightbulb might be better done by binding, not necessarily pairing. Not all devices are unable to re-reroute, so it's just the problematic ones that may be worth doing that with

dry shadow
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I'm currently using a Conbee2/Deconz solution and want to add a second coordinator (using ZHA). Can I have both running at the same time? If so, I can add new stuff to the new controller and migrate the other stuff over when I have free time. Thanks in advance!

bright walrus
tepid gorge
lilac wharf
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It can serve as a warning that one of your zigbee routers has stopped working or dropped off the network

lilac wharf
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No, it won't impact that. Setting it to 10 seconds would likely be overkill

lilac wharf
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Oh I could be wrong

bright walrus
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hey there I started getting into zigbee

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oh, just wanted to reply, and now I accidentally created a thread /o\

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I'm not that used to discord and it's different features

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anyway, then here again: Am I in the right place for a question like this?

stable dew
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Hi All. I currently have about 20 devices in my zigbee network running on zigbee2mqtt and slae.sh coordinator. I plan to get rid of my Philips Hue Bridge and connect all 36 lights currently on it directly to zigbee2mqtt. Could that be a problem? Can you have too many devices on zigbee network?

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and what's the limit? After this planned move I would end up having like 40-50 routers

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Exactly, that would make it 47 routers (devices connected to mains) and 12 battery powered devices.

mellow geode
ember pine
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Soooo experimenting with Z2M a bit now and... do I really have to set up a separate automation for literally every single action like "On" and "Off" on a remote? The Blueprints I tried so far didn't seem to work sadly...

mellow geode
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Are you setting up the automations in Home Assistant?

stable dew
ember pine
mellow geode
stable dew
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perfect thanks. Can't wait to uninstall philips hue app off my phone

mellow geode
ember pine
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How would I go about that?

mellow geode
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Go into one of your automations and for the trigger, click on the three dots in the upper right corner. You can then set a trigger ID for each trigger.
In the main automation body, you can then use a choose to execute a different action depending on the trigger ID.

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Just search for "trigger id Home Assistant" on Google or YT

stable dew
ember pine
mellow geode
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You're using the first gen dimmer, right? (with the shiny plastic)

stable dew
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v1 or v2?

ember pine
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v1

mellow geode
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Yeah, that needs to be unbound from the coordinator first. It's possible with ZHA, but Z2M should also have an option I guess

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You can then bind it to exactly one group (or directly to one device)

ember pine
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Does it still "function" in Z2M then and for automations in Home Assistant?

mellow geode
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I think if it's unbound from the coordinator, no. But I'm not entirely sure

stable dew
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If you still don't know end of this week let me know, I will be testing exactly that this weekend when I get rid of my hue bridge and go full Z2M

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altought I have v2 dimmers only

ember pine
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I'm currently on deConz, and coming from that to Z2M feels like being thrown into cold water lol

stable dew
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I started off with z2m and it took me a lot of time to break in

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but it's great once you figure out what you're doing

mellow geode
ember pine
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I've found a user extension that apparently can do some basic automation itself, if Home Assistant ever goes down and so on which is essentially why I even used deConz in a separate Docker so far.

mellow geode
raven jewel
ember pine
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But then again the biggest reason why I'd even need it are my motion sensors, which I doubt I'll be able to properly bind to lights

raven jewel
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I just went with binding some buttons and those work well as fallbacks

ember pine
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And I wanted to ditch deConz mainly cause lately it's been randomly losing connections to devices that simply made no sense

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But so far Z2M is so much more complicated heh, not in a bad way of course but "way more work"

raven jewel
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That said, my Z2M has never gone down, nor been difficult to configure the exception being when I was trying to rapidly add support for a new device.

frigid mica
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@molten linden you think I can drill through the case or is it a brittle plastic?

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I have double sided tape, I’d just rather mount it on a wall with a “set it and forget it” approach

molten linden
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you can drill it. It is PLA+