the-water-cooler

[last dirge]

are they only available in 2700K?

[tidal bronze]

Specially on chandeliers, they are a disaster.

[scenic radish]

Think so. The idea is that they go gradually from 2700-2200 as you dim them

[last dirge]

gross

[tidal bronze]

Going to try 1000bulbs this time and CREE

[last dirge]

CREE is good

but they know it

[tidal bronze]

lol

[last dirge]

so $$$

[clear ferry]

@last cedar migration to Debian native is almost complete, just missing rclone mounts and smb crap

[last cedar]

That would have taken me about 2 years @clear ferry

[clear ferry]

I even setup routing local root mail to postfix to protonmail bridge to a new email alias

[last dirge]

recruiter: what is your desired compensation
me: it's XXX
recruiter: this position has a maximum of XXX - 20%, is that acceptable?

[clear ferry]

Lol

I answered a headhunter a few weeks ago

Demand #1
Demand #2
Demand #3
Demand #4

If the answer is no to any of the above demands the answer is no

He actually replied, said he only could say yes to two but would get back to me if he got more yes jobs

[last dirge]

yeah, they don't like that

"that compensation is acceptable if the time off is negotiable and starts at three times what's offered"

https://tenor.com/view/palla-deserto-desert-hot-gif-6014273

[clear ferry]

I only asked for the same terms I have today plus 15% bump

[finite atlas]

what about your current employer, didnt she increase your salary just because you got a counter offer from someone else?
why dont you want to stick with them

[last dirge]

gotta get the offer first

then use it as leverage

[clear ferry]

No

I just send all requests I get to my manager

And she uses them as leverage for raises

Doesn't even have to have a monetary offer in it

Last time I had one with an actual offer in it I got 22%

So let's see what this one brings

[finite atlas]

xD

well, good luck with getting a raise

[clear ferry]

Yeah, I'm being reasonable and only asking for 8% + extras to cover inflation

[finite atlas]

:O

[tidal bronze]

Lot of people are interested in port 443 😟

[finite atlas]

got a lot of port sweeps on minecraft servers from shanghai lately

[glacial knot]

I need to set something like that up at some point...

how's port 22?

[tidal bronze]

nothing.... ATM

[clear ferry]

Lol using standard ports for SSH

[glacial knot]

how do you get that map btw?

[clear ferry]

Probably ubiquiti stuff

[tidal bronze]

sysylog >> greylog

[clear ferry]

Orly

[glacial knot]

I don't have a public exposed ssh port /shrug
I do have public exposed vpn port, and ssh port in that

[clear ferry]

I love how it has native names for the countries though

日本

[glacial knot]

jup

it's cute

[orchid rose]

Weirdly enough just some of them

[finite atlas]

you can be pretty sure, that any port 22 is under constant bruteforce attack

[clear ferry]

Yeah, screw the French

[tidal bronze]

If it's not from cloudflare it's dropped anyway on 443 🙂

[orchid rose]

I had to check that one atx and apparently it's France in French

[glacial knot]

Is it not with the hook on the c? I forget

[clear ferry]

My point still stands @orchid rose

[glacial knot]

5 years of school lessons. I don't speak a word of that language

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/bonjour-party-inglourious-basterds-gif-14867086

[tame sand]

I once setup a vps and didn't bother to set it up the same day. The next day i checked the ssh logs... they were hilarious tbh...
#the-water-cooler message
Here is a special gem

[orchid rose]

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/France La France

[finite atlas]

rawr x3

[tame sand]

someone must use it... because i bet they are just random guessing a list

[finite atlas]

honestly, stock ssh is pretty safe itself
yes bruteforce can eventually bite you in the butt, but that case is very unlikely

[clear ferry]

Yubikey

[finite atlas]

feel free to sponsor me one

[tame sand]

tbh anyone who exposes ssh to the internet without pubkey auth is lost

[finite atlas]

thanks

[clever mortar]

TBH, if you have to expose SSH, why even leave password auth enabled. Keys only is the way

That and if you're exposing it, add some MFA

[finite atlas]

lazyness
i just run my script for what i need and call it a day

nothing important is on it anyway, so i dont care

[clever mortar]

https://www.howtogeek.com/121650/how-to-secure-ssh-with-google-authenticators-two-factor-authentication/ is pretty damn easy

[tidal bronze]

When there's wireguard why open SSH any way.

[glacial knot]

add some port knowckig for good measure

[tame sand]

and fail2ban

[finite atlas]

or use a honeypot

or just toss the server out the window and go touch some grass or even better snow

[glacial knot]

on other notes, does one of you have experience with rsync.net? Are they as cool as it sounds?

[clever mortar]

2.5 Cents Per GB / Month

• 400 GB Minimum Order
  

[tidal bronze]

😆

[finite atlas]

wut

[glacial knot]

jup, they are expensive. But if it works, I don't have to think about keeping incremental/fulls around. Which should pull the price down to maybe twice of backblaze (which would be S3 blobs)

[tame sand]

prepping for ukraine -> russia 2

[tidal bronze]

Good day to give https://crowdsec.net/ a spin.

[dusky plank]

graylog?

[tidal bronze]

https://www.graylog.org/

[last cedar]

Yes. Bedside table diode. I know it well

[glacial knot]

nah, that's a day book

[clear ferry]

Rclone mounts coming up now, KVM getting deployed soon

[dusky plank]

i love graylog 🥰

[tidal bronze]

Duck pig

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/manbearpig-gif-18151696

[orchid rose]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-simpsons-spiderpig-whatever-does-gif-22373180

[dusky plank]

this is a wolpertinger

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-rabbit-running-run-gif-5243831

[fallow karma]

Poland has even no name there 🙂

[last cedar]

Is this on your r520 btw?

[forest edge]

your switches are crooked

[forest edge]

man the pi imager is pretty slick

can dl and burn the image and enable ssh and set time zone etc and skip having to do any of that crap on first boot lol

[shadow prawn]

You could also do it through add the right files into the installed system

[forest edge]

yea but this is all at once, you don't have to reopen the sdcard or anything

[shadow prawn]

Nice

Why not if there still are both ways everyone can choose what they want to do

I will try with the next pi

[forest edge]

been using it for months instead of etcher but today was the first time I actually installed the rpi os on an sdcard and was pleasantly surprised about all the stuff you could do

[hollow glacier]

It’s pretty neat

They even let you choose different OS like octopi for 3d printers

[shadow prawn]

Maybe i have to upgrade my pi zero 2w‘s with wlan antennas

[hollow glacier]

why

my pi zero 2 w is working fine with its built in antenna

[shadow prawn]

I have interruptions in my snapcast stream even with 1 second buffer time, but i don‘t have debuged the reason properly

[hollow glacier]

it runs a mjpeg stream for camera for printer too

[shadow prawn]

I have a bunch of other wlan networks in proximity

I could try a relocation of my router, the placement is not ideal

[hollow glacier]

using an all in one router/ap/switch/modem/coffee maker is a bad idea anyways

[shadow prawn]

Could be but you have to start somewhere

[clear ferry]

510

[shadow prawn]

Only know 420

[hollow glacier]

https://giphy.com/gifs/J0WtGU7W9knOo

the devil's lettuce!

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-dance-gif-10855009

[tidal bronze]

Drinking and crowdsec is not a good combination. Going back 4 hours to get my nginx proxy manger back online 😂

[crisp sapphire]

Eyy also use synology

[tidal bronze]

Active backup + ESXI match made in heaven 🙂

[hollow glacier]

you're making changes to network on superbowl sunday?

https://giphy.com/gifs/teamcoco-crying-cry-l2JhtKtDWYNKdRpoA

[tidal bronze]

I know lol Although not that into sports.

[crisp sapphire]

The superbowl's a bit of a meme here

[hollow glacier]

it's a meme everywhere

handball played by overpayed dudes "owned" by older overpayed dudes

[clear ferry]

https://vmware.github.io/mangle/

[ripe basin]

New here and not the most technical so trying to learn - just setup HA OS on my raspberry pi as that was the main reason I got a pi. Now that I have it though I want to set up plex, torrents, etc. so I can use my pi + external drive as a media server. Any advice?
Not sure since I installed the HA OS, if that limits my ability to run torrents on the pi or not..

[clever mortar]

#330990055533576204 is the channel you're looking for

[tidal bronze]

Google assistant calling for reservations still kinda blows my mind.

[static schooner]

now you're the robocaller

[tidal bronze]

Lol. That I am.

These guys didn't have OpenTable but GA got it done in about 2 minutes. 2022 I guess

[umbral cliff]

Wonder how many fail because the person handling the phone thinks it’s a scam

[static schooner]

I read an article a while ago about how it annoys restaurants

seems like a ridiculously complicated computer/human interface that should just be an API

[tidal bronze]

I guess people do OpenTable and don't show up. Most of the OpenTable ones are now $50 no show. I guess not using OT they think people who are really gonna show up is calling. 🤣

[umbral cliff]

Do restaurants not have their own booking systems there? And all use open table?

[static schooner]

now they just need Google to take the calls and book the reservations too

[umbral cliff]

Or just make an api and skip the calls

[tidal bronze]

Most use OpenTable but not 100% accurate unless you see a no show fee

[umbral cliff]

I’ve never seen a no show fee except on high end restaurants tbh

And here not all use open table. A lot use their own booking systems too

[tidal bronze]

Here it's OT or nothing unless it's a Michelin

[umbral cliff]

A lot of smaller restaurants do their own systems because it’s cheaper. Or just do call for a booking only

Also huge mood

[tidal bronze]

Unless the wait time is 6 months or more it's usually OpenTable

[forest edge]

150 reservation fee!?! wtf

that's some high end micky d's

[umbral cliff]

Looks more like a no show rather than reservation fee?

[young sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-evil-laugh-austin-powers-gif-11634369

[green inlet]

I still pick up the phone. Call me stupid. Human interaction ftw

[dusky plank]

what service do you use to store TOTP for your Pass Manager? I have totp everywhere and I find myself using Google Auth to store my Bitwarden auth TOTP code. maybe theres a better alternative?

[clever mortar]

Authy if you want something external

BitWarden if you don't

[dusky plank]

oh, you mean the onlineservice bitwarden?

right, thats a possibility...

just want to steer away from google

[clever mortar]

Authy has the advantage of being cloud based, so you can recover the TOTP keys

[dusky plank]

nice, it uses the phone number as account

[clever mortar]

Also, BitWarden does support proper MFA, so you can ditch the codes

[dusky plank]

yes, but do you store your bitwarden totp auth code inside bitwarden itself? that's not going to end well

[umbral cliff]

I use the Microsoft authenticator app for my special 2FA codes because I’m Microsoft for work/ personal emails so have to use it anyway

(Also the app is not that bad)

[clear ferry]

Long live bitwarden

[clever mortar]

I use Webauthn with BitWarden, so I can use my mobile for the 2FA part, as well as my YubiKey

[clear ferry]

Self hosted that is

Yubikey

[umbral cliff]

I have 2 Yubikeys. Because I can’t usb c everything yet

[clear ferry]

I have usba mini and usba with nfc

No need for usbc tbh

[umbral cliff]

I got usb c for my iPad. And now I have a personal laptop, work laptop, iPad all with usb c support

[clever mortar]

I've got a USB C with NFC one, plus a USB C without NFC one

[clear ferry]

Doesn't iPad have NFC?

[clever mortar]

(plus a couple of older A ones)

[umbral cliff]

I wanted something to plug in too

Also future proof

[clear ferry]

Ewww

[umbral cliff]

Also thank god for work allowing the use of password mangers

And not having to create a new account for work stuff

[umbral cliff]

I have a usb a one with nfc that lives in a drawer just for my desktop

[clever mortar]

Yeah, the NFC one lives on the keyring

[clear ferry]

My leave the house yubi

#thatfeeling when the customer asks you to bring a multimeter to work

They pay $1500 per day (plus tax and extras) I'm there, I'm not gonna say no

Wonder what the fuck I'm gonna do though

[dusky plank]

a nice little broken BUS system awaits you

[clear ferry]

School bus you say

https://open.spotify.com/track/2LLhxlPUCwBWVMUdHrjyhC?si=JnOuYHtcSIe2PjCaHlY82Q&utm_source=copy-link

[clear ferry]

[dusky plank]

who is this?

your father?

[clear ferry]

Could have been if he had a beard

[sand ibex]

I use kdbx databases

[sand ibex]

I forgot the name but there's an alternative to bitwarden which allows you to self host the bitwarden implementation and its foss

[sand ibex]

it isn't bad but it's ehh bc ms still has the totp codes

[clever mortar]

VaultWarden

[sand ibex]

yea that

[clever mortar]

Given most people here screw up backups of HA, I'd not trust them to back up their own VaultWarden

[sand ibex]

at the end of the day I use it for my school account logins and stuff

my school hates ms but they use their log on services

iirc all the keycards also link back to mircosoft ad

[umbral cliff]

Well it’s local so ms doesn’t keep anything (except their accounts but nothing stopping you also adding a new app too)

[sand ibex]

Hmmm

are you willing to trust Microsoft doesn't have that data?

[dusky plank]

i was already talking about vaultwarden, its still bitwardenrs

[umbral cliff]

Well it doesn’t sync but no I can’t trust it. I still trust Microsoft more than google or things that can sync to any device

[dusky plank]

insert prism.jpeg

[umbral cliff]

If Microsoft is breached then I have larger issues anyway

[sand ibex]

huh

then u should try to mitigate knowing that ms will be breached one day

[umbral cliff]

I’ll just change my 2FA key for bitwarden and job done

You still need to get my password

(Plus not worried about personal/ work ms, if their enterprise stuff is also breached there will be a lot of angry governments)

Alongside private businesses and schools

[clever mortar]

At the end of the day, if you keep your TOTP codes separate from your passwords there's no significant risk if MS has your TOTP codes

[umbral cliff]

Name of the account is the login details stored in plain text

(Not really obviously. I am not stupid)

[clever mortar]

TBH even if it is, so what? I mean, you're using a password manager because it's generating nice long secure passwords aren't you 😛

If you're that worried, ditch TOTP and go hardware

[clear ferry]

Love it

[finite atlas]

what a handsome guy

[sand ibex]

I'm poor lol

[finite atlas]

flip stuff on the used market

[sand ibex]

shhhh

[finite atlas]

well, you can also continue to idle in your IDE and keep complaining about not having much money

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/peasant-joke-rich-understand-funny-horrible-histories-gif-15537482

[clear ferry]

No wonder my redacted setup was behaving irradic

I apparently was running it on two hosts at the same time

with the same config

also explains why mariadb was having a hard time keeping up with the db

and saying the db was corrupt

😄

[proven spruce]

hoisted by your own petard

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bAITk.gif

so yes, HA in HA is possible it seems

😄

[shadow prawn]

kek

One step closer to the edge

and atxbyea's setup is about to break

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/tJv8.gif

[proven spruce]

the trick is that its permanently broken

[clear ferry]

well, nothing broke except the db

but I don't care about the db data

[shadow prawn]

no one here listening to linkin park? 😅 Not to mix up with linkin bark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWZMPxFdc1A

[clear ferry]

old but good

[clear ferry]

me being stupid thinking I had forgotten the password to the iLO on my Gen8 server

but I was logging into the wrong server

[strange crag]

I can see that Atx is approaching senility and forgetting stuff 😉

[fleet brook]

As long as you don't log into the wrong server and reboot it.

Never done that. Nope....

[clear ferry]

I've rebooted an entire blade enclosure wrong

thankfully it was only a development company

so they just went to lunch

16 servers powered off

oops

[last dirge]

I worked at a place that used blades for redundancy

... in the same enclosure

[clear ferry]

You mean, like all SMB customers

[last dirge]

for production systems

[clear ferry]

Same users that run HAOS then

[night zodiac]

lol, same ol' jokes

this place is consistent

[glacial knot]

better than running hpux 😉

[clear ferry]

I was starting to wonder if you were dead

[clear ferry]

Shut your HAOS mouth

[last dirge]

what an unfortunate name

[finite atlas]

xD

[last dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/shit-jeff-goldblum-jurassic-park-gif-15006020

[fervent crest]

Howdy Ya'll. Bit of a long-question, but I'm feeling overwhelmed. I'ma long-time HomeAssistant fan, and have been using a variety of devices with it over the years (Insteon/Phillips/Ikea/Tuya/DIY), but my system is getting increasingly fragile / Sluggish. I'm moving into a new home soon and am thinking of replacing most of my smart devices and would love some input on what you all love. The things I know I want are:

• Light Controls (Switch Replacements and Bulbs)
• Video Doorbell
• Outlet Switches
• Thermostat

I'm hoping to get away from such a hodge-podge of services and find something that works well with or without HomeAssistant if I need. Z-Wave and Zigbee seems the most common, but I'm just hoping for some ideas.

I'm no stranger to making embedded devices, programming, running complex systems, but I just want reliability so my partner doesn't get upset at me when it breaks 😆

[hollow glacier]

you're gonna get different replies from different people with such a loaded uhh.. question lol

are you running hass on a pi?

will you be adding in cameras?

have you looked into the differences between zigbee and zwave?

personally i would use zwave plus s2 dimmer switches (can always upgrade bulbs to smart and turn on smart bulb mode to switches later), unifi doorbell (or pro if you want beta hardware), ecobee thermostat (or nest if you are a heathen who likes google)

[fervent crest]

I'm actually running HA on a spare desktop. Love my Pi's but they're underpowered for what I'm doing most of the time.
Haven't considered cameras tbh, but only see them as a security device.
I have looked into ZigBee/v/ZWave, and appreciate all the technical differences, but was hoping to get feedback on folks who have actually integrated them.

I realize I'm gonna get a bunch of responses, but that's the idea.

[hollow glacier]

doorbell depends on if you already use unifi protect / unifi cams. otherwise not sure what to suggest there

best suggestion i can give is split up your question into smaller bites and post them in the relevant channels

this is our shitpost den

[fervent crest]

lol, fair

[hollow glacier]

with that being said- if you are looking at zwave i would look into zooz and aeotec hardware

i really like all my zooz light switches

fuckin expensive but what isnt these days

https://www.getzooz.com/zooz-zen30-double-switch.html this is the latest one i got

[velvet horizon]

The topic of this channel is:

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No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

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[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

@fervent crest can't really speak for the newer model amcrest video doorbell but AD110 I have has been surpringly rock solid. I haven't updated it's firmware since i bought it and it has no access to the internet but it's been treating me well. no idea if the newer 4k model is the same or not

[hollow glacier]

he never asked for support dummy

[dusky plank]

is anybody familiar with Looking Glass ? (KVM)

oh i see, they have their own server 🥳

[fervent crest]

thanks. That kind of behavior is usually pretty toxic in FOSS communities but unavoidable

[hollow glacier]

then you're gonna have a bad time in this server lol

[fervent crest]

I didn't say anything about myself there 👉 👉

[cedar chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/if-you-french-fries-when-you-pizza-youre-gonna-have-a-bad-time-south-park-skiing-do-it-right-gif-22089233

[finite atlas]

something for you @clear ferry

https://img.pr0gramm.com/2022/02/14/2eb6868ca9e749fc.png

[cedar chasm]

I'm no administrator. Hasn't stopped me from becoming sehr fett

[shadow prawn]

Next warning incoming

[finite atlas]

i administrate my life

horrible, but i do it
so since i'm an admin, i'm fat

[cedar chasm]

Are you sure it's not just that our food is poisoned?

[clear ferry]

Ich Liebe das

5cm so far since 1600, snowing heavy still

[static schooner]

Meanwhile, in paradise...

[shadow prawn]

72 deg C sounds not like paradise

[tidal bronze]

I will give it to you today. 😕

[static schooner]

Yeah, supposed to rain here tomorrow as well. Promises, promises

it said 20% chance today and I'm not seeing it

[orchid rose]

are you seeing the 80% chance of it not raining?

[shy comet]

@tidal bronze not enjoying our february heat wave?

turning on the AC in winter 🙂

[shy comet]

lol does it ever change from 72 😛

[static schooner]

Most likely. It's just not even cloudy, nor are there any hints of clouds

[forest edge]

it is actually nice here today

was cold as shit this mornign tho and suppose to snow or something on thursday maybe

[tidal bronze]

@shy comet better than yesterday. But as always beautiful.

[forest edge]

yea yea we know

enjoy your skin cancer infested state

[umbral cliff]

Even nicer weather. Avoiding using the AC, too expensive

Just a fan and open windows and job done

[static schooner]

I can do that during the day, but it gets chilly in the morning. I look forward to the 6 months or so that I can just leave the windows open

[scenic radish]

I look forward to the 1 month that I can just leave the windows open

[static schooner]

I often forget that they're open and then it rains. Then all the dirt that's accumulated on the screens ends up on the inside wall

[scenic radish]

Jk it's like 3. But it feels like only 1

[clear ferry]

Burglary free month in shikagå, I can't believe it

[umbral cliff]

I would still do it. Overnight best time to freeze. During winter will keep the window open a bit

[tidal bronze]

It's all good, from Diego to the Bay

[last dirge]

Dre puttin it down for Califor-ni-a

[shy comet]

had some good nostalgia going during that set lol

[tidal bronze]

Loved it.

[sinful fable]

Today the fiance was like "The front room light was on when I got home..." and I just grinned

[clear ferry]

I keep the window open down to -15 outside

I like my bedroom 10ish degrees

[shadow prawn]

Typical norwegian people

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/skam-vilde-cries-in-norwegian-crying-gif-11876994

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze nice icon change lmao

fuggin wyze.. i have a v2 and a v3 separated by about 10-15ft and they cause interference with one another no doubt. so annoying

[umbral cliff]

I like mine around 15-20. Cool but not too cold it starts snowing

[scenic radish]

Bruh what

[scenic radish]

(and yes, I know that's in C)

[tame sand]

• in K

[static schooner]

🥶

[scenic radish]

10C is way too cold. 18C/65F is good in the winter, 20C/68F in the summer

[strange crag]

Other way around. You want it cooler in summer and warmer in winter.

[forest edge]

65f is rather cold when the day is warmer and the temp drops at night

[strange crag]

A nice 22C all round is perfect!

[fallow karma]

I prefer like -2C in the winter and 30 in the summer.

outside of course :)

[scenic radish]

In your bedroom?

Lol there it is

[finite atlas]

https://img.pr0gramm.com/2012/07/311500-392167764173367-185740821-n.jpg

[static schooner]

Dark, but lol

[glacial knot]

nah, dark link has black clothing

[dusky plank]

hyperlink does not die

[finite atlas]

hmm, i wonder where that image is from

[uncut schooner]

yaml joke since I was bored

[clear ferry]

now to figure out why my kvm bridge network doesn't work

there we go

[shadow prawn]

noone knows

[strange crag]

My system has gone unresponsive, but tends to come back on its own, however I am looking for a command to run to tell me statically (like "w" will tell me system load) what are the top tasks. "Top" is dynamic and not suitable. Any ideas?

[clear ferry]

What system is this

Please say raspberry pi

[strange crag]

linux

now lets see pavlov's dog "ding"
its a raspberry pi 😉

[clear ferry]

well unresponsive can come from lot of places, CPU\memory exhaustion, network issues, IO contention \ lockups

and with subpar kids toys

the power subsystem

[strange crag]

yeah that s why I want a static command so I can queue it up in the keyboard buffer for when it starts to respond

[clear ferry]

I would rather start by looking at log files

you redirect those to a syslog server, right ?

RIGHT?

😄

[strange crag]

no syslog server - minimal hardware for minimal space!

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/w3Hm.gif

[strange crag]

actually did I tell you I am working on a lightweight system for Musks mars mission!

bwahahahahaha

[clear ferry]

Based on current stability I would say that looks like most tesla products then

[strange crag]

lol

[dusky plank]

ps aux

[clear ferry]

I should provision one of the free oracle cloud VMs as a syslog server

[strange crag]

I think it may be writing to the swap file which is why it takes so long, but I need something to point that way

[clear ferry]

so I can have it remote from my systems

iotop

[strange crag]

its dynamic -not static

i amnot going to sit there and watch till it comes back

[dusky plank]

ps aux | sort -n -k 3

[finite atlas]

just throw it out the window, problem solved

[strange crag]

that gives me a LOT of output, but not sure which is memory/cpu stats, but that is the sort of thing I am looking for

[dusky plank]

you asked for it 🤷‍♂️

[strange crag]

hhehehe

[dusky plank]

you can also limit output, piping text is easy

[strange crag]

yeah - now I gotta figure out what columns mean what.

[sinful fable]

You can run top to print instead of dynamic

At measured time intervals

However, honestly I'd bring up a node exporter, prometheus and grafana stack

top -b | tee yourlog

[sinful fable]

as this will cover almost everything you could want, plus more, and shouldn't be too taxing

[clear ferry]

bmon was quite nice tbh

[strange crag]

How would I bring up a node exporter etc? on docker? Its my docker host that is not responding at the moment

[sinful fable]

Depends what your docker host is

Prometheus and grafana you'd bring up on docker

unraid has a plugin for node exporter, etc

https://github.com/ich777/unraid-prometheus_node_exporter

If your docker host is just a linux machine, just yum/pacman/apt install it

[dusky plank]

that... does not historically log processes? does it?

[strange crag]

but its dynamic too - and not installed on the host

[dusky plank]

oh it does

but thats so overkill 😂

[sinful fable]

glances might also be interesting, I've not used it but someone was telling me about it the other day

https://nicolargo.github.io/glances/

[sinful fable]

completely overkill, but when something isnt working, having every metric you can think of, and more is so useful

[clear ferry]

I'd start by throwing out the pi

https://tenor.com/96h0.gif

[dusky plank]

yeah, just wanted to link oberfails response again 😄

[strange crag]

Thanks guys - I think I will go with ultimation and top -b

[sinful fable]

It's like, you'll store historic disk usage, that's an easy one, but then you'll run out of inodes and get confused about how you didnt see that coming, or what used so many

[strange crag]

I do monitor it with byobu-screen, and it wasnt hot, or high cpu etc when it stopped giving stats. I will wait for an hour and see what - if anything - I get. If it hasnt come back by then its the big fix it button on the wall lol

[sinful fable]

Interesting, not seen Byobu, I just use tmux

[clear ferry]

tmux

[strange crag]

In the mean time its back to creating arrays in micro controllers "ding"

yeah I didnt like tmux, but it comes with every byobu install

[sinful fable]

you dont have byobu version <5.20 do you? 😉

[strange crag]

cant tell till the system coes back or I reboot it lol Why?

comes*

[sinful fable]

just an old bug that caused an infinte cpu load

[dusky plank]

i don't even know whats failing

[sinful fable]

but i think that's very old

Oh okay, so byobu is ontop of tmux

(by default since like 2012)

[strange crag]

hmmm - I did have cpu load at about 70 - so will def check

[sinful fable]

I doubt your system is that old

[strange crag]

yes - you can install tmux or screen on their own, but if you install byobu you automatically get tmux and you need to add screen to your install list manually

well as atx says - it is a pi! and its the 64bit version before they released the official

[sinful fable]

I would ignore me then

[strange crag]

might even be buster and not bullseye

[clear ferry]

bring your own bricked unit ?

sounds right for a pi 😄

[strange crag]

lol

you can get byobu for any linux system - not just your favourite Atx

[sinful fable]

byobu looks much easier to learn, but i already know tmux 😅

[clear ferry]

easier != better

😄

[sinful fable]

The keyboard shortcuts are further away from the home row...

[strange crag]

they are function keys - yes

I consider that a feature in this case 😉

[clear ferry]

Y'all should have seen the Tiki 100 with its 32 F keys

[strange crag]

I am amazed I didnt get a byte out of atx for mentioning a micro controller 😉

[clear ferry]

Might have been another tiki though 🤔

[strange crag]

how about the logitech g115 with something like that many g keys as well as the funtion keys

[clear ferry]

I had one of those

never ended up using them

since I stopped playing computer games at the same time

loving my Microsoft Natural keyboard though

[strange crag]

its bloody big -but a nice keyboard if you have the space

the g115 i mean

[clear ferry]

My two days of working this week is almost over already

now I'm off until monday again

😄

[strange crag]

some people have got it sweet <cough cough>

[clear ferry]

Hey, I'm working THREE days next week

[shadow prawn]

nice

[strange crag]

How will you ever manage to do that - thats criminal asking you to work that long!

😉

[clear ferry]

yes, good thing I'm only doing this for the next 11 months

then I'll move to taking every friday off for two years

[strange crag]

semi retired at your age! whish I could have done that!

[clear ferry]

but still 100% pay

😄

[strange crag]

are you blackmailing the bosses? lol

[clear ferry]

no, it is the land of socialism

State pays for me to take leave

that said, even in STRALIA we give our employees 6 months paid paternity \maternity leave

[strange crag]

12 months for women - not sure aboujt the blokes

[clear ferry]

we have 40 weeks 100% pay or 50 weeks 80% pay

[strange crag]

well its been a long time since I coujld have done it and back then blokes only got about 3 weeks

[umbral cliff]

Things are a lot fairer now. Helps for same sex couples or even couples where the man is the primary caregiver too

[clear ferry]

yeah, I get all of the leave because my wife is a student

normally I would only get 15 weeks and she gets 35 weeks

but then I would have used the 6 months that work offers on top of the 15 weeks

[strange crag]

well if its your first child its gonna change your lifestyle big time!

[clear ferry]

nope

second

😄

[strange crag]

you will need all those weeks to adjust

[clear ferry]

I did 40 weeks for the first child too

same pattern, 50% first year, 80% year 2 \3

[umbral cliff]

I wonder what my works policy is. Haven’t looked. Though a quick google tells me at least 18 weeks for either parent but I imagine there may be more too

Can’t be fucked opening my work laptop to check

(Can check from personal devices but lazy at logging in and dealing with it mixing up my personal domain o365 login and my work login)

[clear ferry]

lulz

I just use my work laptop as my personal laptop

[strange crag]

I woujld agree that for the first child you would need all that time, but for subsequent children I would think a much lesser time would be appropriate. but of course I woujld get laughed/kicked out of the room for suggesting that lol

[umbral cliff]

I can too. Just still trying to keep a work life balance

[clear ferry]

I do, I leave my office at 16:00

but I do my own stuff on it after that

😄

[umbral cliff]

Gotta love a company that allows local admin access (through an internal tool that logs everything and also restricts local admin so I can’t go break things)

The trust is great

Spotify on work laptop

[clear ferry]

I don't even run the corporate image

Haven't done that since 2011

Nor do I run the company software on my work paid phone

[umbral cliff]

I’m a lowly grad. I gotta toe the line somehow

[clear ferry]

I have never been in line I guess

[umbral cliff]

Sounds about right for you 😛

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bkvH4.gif

[sinful fable]

tbh a 105 keyboard has just the right amount, don't need any macro keys

and when you're on a kvm in a loud datacenter with a dreadful keyboard and you cant remember your macros it'll be sad

[clear ferry]

people use kvms still ?

[strange crag]

playing some games would be easier with macros

[clear ferry]

Don't think I've used one in close to a decade

[sinful fable]

tbh we don't either, crash carts are used when absolutely nessesary

[strange crag]

you would have to be in a computer room or DC to use one of those lol

[sinful fable]

normally when an ilo hasnt connected to the network

[clear ferry]

which is rare

since ilo2

[sinful fable]

dell idracs have a habit of dhcping once and setting their first address to static

[clear ferry]

wtf

[sinful fable]

and ignoring lease times

[clear ferry]

wtf

[sinful fable]

yeah it was a bug for a while atleast

we had a lot of them

[scenic radish]

wtf

[strange crag]

I would think yoiu would want a static ip on them

[clear ferry]

I was in a DC just 3 months ago, installing 450 new nodes, no crashcart or kvm was used @strange crag

static ip 🤢

disgusting

[sinful fable]

we don't static ILOs

we static hosts

[strange crag]

I dont know what a crashcart is (other than a medical one lol) since I have been out of the DC for a decade and a half

[sinful fable]

Uh, a screen, keyboard and mouse on a trolley you push around

[strange crag]

then how do you find the ilo to connect to that host?

[clear ferry]

you see it based on hostname in the dhcp lease

[strange crag]

ahh fair enuff ultimation

[sinful fable]

Hostname, but really the ilo mac address is tied to the host in a database

and the network ports on the host connected to same device

[clear ferry]

doing shared ilo port ?

[sinful fable]

no

[strange crag]

yeah - but the ilo has a different ip to the host its connected to

[sinful fable]

oh

we keep ilo on seperate switches and network

[clear ferry]

good

only place I see shared is in HPC

it always freaks me out

[sinful fable]

our hpc cluster has separate too, but we're not similar to most hpc

our hpc grew incrementally vs a single install, and not by people from the hpc industry

[clear ferry]

doing SL \ BL or just plain old DL for HPC ?

[sinful fable]

Dell 4u servers last i remember

but I'm not with that team anymore

[umbral cliff]

Hmm anyone here have recommendations for a usb c dock? Like a proper desktop setup one with removable cable (rather than the portable ones)

Was looking at one of the Lenovo TB3 ones but wondering if anyone has suggestions

[strange crag]

https://core-electronics.com.au/projects/raspberry-pi-desk-clock-with-data-display

[umbral cliff]

I want a dock not a display 😂

[sinful fable]

huh, how is that related

but we use something like https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox/ to map ILOs to Hosts

[strange crag]

well a pi 4 has a usb c cable that is removable and its a clock!

[umbral cliff]

Clock =/= dock

[dusky plank]

usb c hub, thunderbolt 3 or maybe even 4 was in question 😂

[strange crag]

mb i read clock - its getting late lol

[dusky plank]

pretty sure aliexpress has some funky stuff in that category...

[vocal seal]

which door sensor is perfect for home assistant (zigbee)

[shadow prawn]

#zigbee-archived would know

hehe waited for this moment

[umbral cliff]

As in a dock? What would the quality be

[shadow prawn]

probably not so good 😅

so usb c or thunderbold makes a great difference in price

[clear ferry]

I love my HP dock g2 with media module for conferencing

Supports 2x 4k displays and 2x1k displays too

[dusky plank]

build quality for <generic noname device> ?
bad. usually.

but i find lots of interesting things usb related on ae, i do like to take things apart

[shadow prawn]

would mostly be my choice also

[umbral cliff]

That’s why I was thinking one of the Lenovo ones. Not bad price and has the ports I want (plus tb3)
Maybe this: https://www.mwave.com.au/product/lenovo-thinkpad-thunderbolt-3-dock-gen-2-ac23182

Or maybe this one:

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/brydge-stone-pro-universal-thunderbolt-4-docking-station-ac48761

[umbral cliff]

Fixed cable though

[shadow prawn]

heared the CalDigit TS3 Plus should be a good choice but no personal experience

[clear ferry]

You might already know this @sinful fable but the codename for ilo3 is gromit

Every hp/hpe product has a codename, and related products have related codenames

My favourite series is the enterprise class tape libraries

Named after russian submarine classes

Off the top of my head the ESL-e was the akula

[sinful fable]

Hah, I did not know that, to be fair, I deliberately removed every HP server I could from our infrastructure

[clear ferry]

[sinful fable]

(they were old and i had a strong dislike for them)

they were also our oldest servers

[clear ferry]

Pre g6 is eeeeh mostly

[sinful fable]

I did find a HP server today actually, still alive

It runs iLO 4

[umbral cliff]

Oi @clear ferry this a good dock? Looks to be detachable cable too https://www.mwave.com.au/product/hp-thunderbolt-dock-120w-g2-2uk37aa-ac16839

[clear ferry]

So a gen8 or gen9

[sinful fable]

8 yep

[clear ferry]

Looks like mine, which doesn't have detachable cable

[umbral cliff]

Guess I’ll just discount HP, I want something I can chuck a longer cable on/ replace the cable if needed

[sinful fable]

I think my main gripe with the HP ILO was just that it changed my system keyboard layout

that might have been fujitsus

I cant remember

[clear ferry]

Never noticed, but these days I mostly just use vsp

[strange crag]

so what is this dock used for?

[sinful fable]

If would match your system keyboard to your remote servers layout

[clear ferry]

Fujitsu blades were utter shite

[sinful fable]

All I remember is that it drove me insane, especially when we had some special characters in root passwords that had to be entered via ilo

[clear ferry]

Shouldn't be an issue with vsp

[umbral cliff]

Gonna be for wfh. Connect my work laptop to it and use my monitor/ Ethernet/ etc and charge it at the same time

[sinful fable]

vsp?

[clear ferry]

The text based console

[dusky plank]

$ docker pull mcr.microsoft.com/windows/servercore:1607-KB5010359-amd64        
1607-KB5010359-amd64: Pulling from windows/servercore
3889bb8d808b: Pulling fs layer 
09f55b4e4510: Pulling fs layer 
image operating system "windows" cannot be used on this platform ```

wtf

cannot even docker save -o that 💩

[forest edge]

ok Ready Player One has been out for damn near 3 years. where's the real thing?

[orchid rose]

10 years away according to Zuck

I'd expect it to take more like 20 at least

[shy comet]

metaverse is just a app at this point

in VR land im usually playing Population One

[tidal bronze]

You asked for rain huh ?

[shy comet]

anyone here play?

[acoustic radish]

So I have used HA for a week now.. so far I use all the Integrations I already had over Wifi.... but now I'm starting to want to add more sensors etc.. like more temp sensors in the house. Then I guess 433MHz it the way to go? But how do I now proceed to read 433MHz products to my HA? Guess I need some 433MHz antenna added to my hardware?

[shadow prawn]

Zigbee is a better way to go

Or zwave

[scenic radish]

[acoustic radish]

Ok and then I need some kind of reciever to my hardware? Its a Pi atm

[sand agate]

yes, you would need a zigbee or z-wave gateway device (normally a usb)

[acoustic radish]

Like this one? That small thing?
https://www.m.nu/zigbee-usb-gpio-ovrigt/zigbee-zb-stick-popp

[scenic radish]

#zigbee-archived can help. Read the topic there, choose an integration you want to use, and pick your stick from there

[acoustic radish]

Ah cool thx

why dont just buy a Tellstick, and get many protocolls? Those sticks cost almost as much as the Telldus. Any downsides to go with that idea?

and then put the sensors in HA trough the stick

[forest edge]

we can't wait that long. I need to see this OT channel in VR now! I would imagine it would look alot like those VR chat videos you see on youtube and atx would be pepe the frog

[dusky plank]

ok i can wait then

[orchid rose]

Never heard of Population One. Will look that one out though

[tidal bronze]

@shy comet so that's it ? @static schooner gave false hope 😆

[static schooner]

Still drippy here. But yeah, just enough to make a dirty car look dirtier

[tidal bronze]

Lol. Says total 0.02"

[static schooner]

Yeah...

we rounded up to make you feel better

[cedar chasm]

Speaking from a Zigbee perspective, Telldus doesn't seem to be supported by our favorite Zigbee integrations, Zigbee2MQTT and ZHA.
Also 433Mhz hasn't got it's own channel here as #zigbee-archived and #zwave-archived , which is suggestive of the level of support you can expect for a large 433Mhz sensor fleet :S

[orchid rose]

Rain on the west coast? 😱

[static schooner]

Just enough to smear my glasses when I try to wipe off the tiny droplets

[acoustic radish]

Ok thanks!

[cedar chasm]

Those are just my own musings, for all I know I am the only person not using 433Mhz

[acoustic radish]

433 has long range, right?

what I heard

that I like

dont know about the zigbee and zwave but they probably have long range too 😛

[cedar chasm]

Well z/bee/wave all have mesh components, so that adds some range

but in terms of raw range from the stick/hub then theoretically 433Mhz has longer range

cause that's how radio frequencies work

[forest edge]

433Mhz is great as long as all your stuff falls under then same freq

[orchid rose]

433 is an old standard and unless you have those devices already I wouldn't recommend them. Zigbee is the go-to these days, but for other options you should ask in #hardware-archived

[cedar chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-now-for-gif-5780059

[clear ferry]

Ugh 433

[forest edge]

ZigBee more expensive and the fact that most the devices are end points the range without extra spending in not as good

With that said it seems the range cover a small home rather well

[clear ferry]

433 the UDP of smart homes

did you get it?

[forest edge]

Do t hate on tried and true

[clear ferry]

I will

[trail crag]

Ping

[cedar chasm]

Pong

[clear ferry]

Sorry UDP

No pong for you

[forest edge]

Just wish the US used mainly 433 and not mix in that 315 BS

[clear ferry]

That is some nasty shit

[forest edge]

Prince on the radio. Ever listen to prince atx?

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/24kivy-prince-staring-awkward-silence-gif-24116641

[last cedar]

@clear ferry you know you were helping me with docker?

I just installed zigbee2mqtt and I used a wrong command in the compose file

startfire=true

Now my computer has set on fire. I tried changing the value to false, but it is still on fire, do you have any tips?

Oh, don't worry. I unplugged it and threw it in the pool. Killed all the wildlife in the pond, but it is no longer on fire.

Do you think the 100k hours hdd is salvagable?

[orchid rose]

Did you try turning it off and on again?

[last cedar]

Well yes, but as soon as I plugged it back in I saw a bright flash and now nothing electric works

[clear ferry]

No, I'm musically inept

[last cedar]

Should I have removed it from the pool before plugging it back in?

[clear ferry]

Try doing

    environment:
      - cooldownmf=true

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/aha-coming-to-america-gif-7731154

Tyvm

I will try it if I ever get my electric working again

But seriously, got mqtt and zigbee2mqtt and ha installed. Pushing data from a hue outdoor sensor to HA so it is all working nicely!

[clear ferry]

Pine scented shaving soap, nice

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-raccoon-gif-18000918

Doesn't it sting your???

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/no-cat-kitten-kitty-gif-10381316

[forest edge]

that goes without saying..

https://tenor.com/view/kazoo-kid-good-job-sarcastic-kazoo-kid-sarcastic-good-job-congrats-sarcastic-sarcastic-yay-gif-22047879

[tidal bronze]

Shaving soap? 🤔

[forest edge]

Their vocabulary is somewhat limited. They clump words like wash, cream and oils all under the same term. In this case.. soap.

What happens when you still use a basic form of language that was derived from cave drawings

[static schooner]

Shaving soap is a real thing

even absent the cave or glacier drawings

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/soap-face-bubble-funny-gif-15444408

[plucky turret]

am i still marked as a spammer?

[static schooner]

Not that I see

[plucky turret]

interesting. guess it depends on the user. very frustrating

turns out it's a big problem on discord

maybe i should create another account but then they might block that account because my ip add

[clear ferry]

You should at least learn to use MFA

[dusky plank]

does mfa guarantee a human? since when? what if he just used a vpn and got marked as spam because lots of other 💩 happened on that ip?

[clear ferry]

He routed via your house?

[dusky plank]

usually people do, yes. i get free password hashes 🥳

[clear ferry]

Smoke that hash pipe

[plucky turret]

I think i already verified by phn

I just added 2FA w/ app

which just uses my phone number lol

[dusky plank]

lol

you did it

now you show up as spam for me

[plucky turret]

fuuuuuuuu

[dusky plank]

madlad

[plucky turret]

I'll send them my ssn dl and bc

[static schooner]

I'll pass them on

Slide ''em into my DMs

[plucky turret]

lol

[clear ferry]

Are SSN sensitive information in the US?

In Norway it just something we recite blindly whenever we need to Auth ourselves

[plucky turret]

yes. it's a component to identity theft

it's like a citizen number

but private

[clear ferry]

Same here, albeit it is only one factor so you can really steal an identity with it

We have very good government authentication practices in place, most are digital these days and require MFA

[plucky turret]

i had to get my ssn replaced recently and they required MFA.

SSN card

sent me a letter

so at least that's something

[clear ferry]

Wait

Your replace it?

Ours is assigned at birth, and is not changeable

Oh SSN card

[plucky turret]

i droppped my wallet and no good Samaritan was to be found

it's the card i lost

its assigned at birth

[clear ferry]

We just recently introduced cards for national identity, it has never been needed as drivers licence is good enough

Last year I think

[plucky turret]

same in usa except they keep delaying it

arizona DL last 50 years but the new ones will last like 5 or something 😦

[clear ferry]

I haven't bothered getting one yet because everyone still accepts driver's license and passport

[plucky turret]

they are federal identificatin issued by the state

[clear ferry]

We even have our drivers licenses digital now on our phones

No need for the physical anymore

[plucky turret]

but then you have to hand your unlocked phone over to the police?

[clear ferry]

I regress, i need the physical one if I travel abroad to drive

Yes, we don't have trust issues with police either, and we don't need to hand it to them, we just show them

[plucky turret]

oh that's good

[clear ferry]

Our Police actually have to take a bachelor to become a police officer at a minimum

[plucky turret]

that's cool. it's an important and high stakes job.

shouldn't be taken lightly. sometimes moral decisions.

[clear ferry]

Yes, they are struggling to train enough to be fair

Because a lot of people drop out

And I'm probably thankful they are

[plucky turret]

much less crime in norway

violent crime

[clear ferry]

Yes

https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/stdfkn/belgium_approves_fourday_week_and_gives_employees/

Norway next

[plucky turret]

lol "right to ignore your bosses after work"

boss> WHATS THE SSH KEY!

[clear ferry]

To be fair, that part is already normal for decades

After work is after work

[plucky turret]

I worked in germany for 6m really like the work culture

[clear ferry]

They are a bit uptight compared to us

Noone bats and eye if I go into a law office to fix something wearing shorts

Or work for the military with sandals

[plucky turret]

😄

[clear ferry]

Where is @glacial knot to defend the Vaterland when I poke it

[glacial knot]

In the corporate office

[glacial knot]

Wearing my work sandals

[clear ferry]

Germany has evolved!

[flat saddle]

gotta letem breath

welp I'm banned on that account.

I was using the multiple account feature in beta

[glacial knot]

They are ESD shoes, couldn’t get them reimbursed due to some technicality (with the receipt) I didn’t know about =.=
But I got them for work

[flat saddle]

I like to keep my channels separate

[glacial knot]

Of? Teams?

[flat saddle]

I have a gaming discord account and a tech one

I can only use my gamer one now

[glacial knot]

My discord is more zen

One with all

[flat saddle]

too much chaos. get distracted easily.

i accidentally posted with this account so the other got killed

[clear ferry]

I'm active on a dozen discords, i have multiple organisation accounts in both slack and teams and I run four monitors in my home office

I'm whatever the opposite of adhd is

But I've had triple monitors since 2001, dual since 1997, quad since 2005, I thrive in multitasking

I did have five at one point though, I should get back to that

[flat saddle]

lol

i tried one of those ultrawide and it was frying my brain

i couldn't think after

[clear ferry]

I hate ultrawide

I need borders

[flat saddle]

contain the stimuli

i need 12 5" monitors

[clear ferry]

The smallest I've ever had was 12"

Or was it 10"

[flat saddle]

toiny

[hallow willow]

I use an ultra wide for gaming (simracing) and there's nothing like it 😇

[clear ferry]

Makes sense for driving or flying simulators

[strange crag]

had a 5 inch screen on a really old "portable" computer in a samsonite case!

back when my eyes were able to read such devices

lol

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-lol-haha-so-funny-funny-gif-5635575

[dusky plank]

ffs ms, your docker images are 8gb

[shadow prawn]

Bg rotates

[glacial knot]

Why would they?

[shadow prawn]

Only a joke, because of videos where people are wearing „Sicherheitssandalen“ where it‘s totaly not appropriate

[finite atlas]

you clearly use that site too often

[shadow prawn]

True, but i have reduced it already since i have no andoid phone anymore

[finite atlas]

switched to ios?

[shadow prawn]

Yes, for now. Waiting for a good linux phone

[finite atlas]

i just installed grapheneos onto my pixel 4xl

if i want a linux terminal, there is termux

[umbral cliff]

I want triple monitors but don’t have desk space

[clear ferry]

Lulz nub

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[finite atlas]

attach more desk to your desk

[clear ferry]

You jest

But I've seen people do that

[shadow prawn]

I have also attached more desk to my desk

[dusky plank]

sure windows, i have 10gb alright

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/oprah-you-everyone-gif-11387812

You you and you we all have 10gbit

[umbral cliff]

I have your IP address I’m going to DDOS you

^ Every twelvie on the internet

[umbral cliff]

Pls im from australia. We’re lucky to have 10mbit 🤣

[dusky plank]

ffs calmel, stay off my network!

w t f

windows/servercore is a whopping 12GB

[umbral cliff]

I’m proud of myself for having an organised network system, the IP addresses aren’t just default ones and actually make sense too

[dusky plank]

so a good old 192.168.0/16

[umbral cliff]

Nah a 10.X.0.0/20 with x being relevant to a house/ apartment number

So I know my parents network away from my own

[dusky plank]

hah, now i know your ip

will ddos you back

[umbral cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-worried-oh-no-anxious-gif-11565777

[dusky plank]

https://tenor.com/view/squats-bissen-squatting-intensifies-gif-15052026

[clear ferry]

I still remember being able to ddos my friends while playing online via dialup

[green inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/wolves-wwfc-saiss-romainsaiss-cheater-gif-24213769

[sand ibex]

LMAO

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/ddos-gif-19900007

[sand ibex]

I am half aussie, when I am in the big towns like Sydney I was getting like 20mb/s max lmfao

[sand ibex]

Inverse laginator

[sand ibex]

Yea me too, long story short I have my cctv on 10.10.10.255/24. Standard LAN on 192.168.1.255/24, VPN on 192.168.100.255/24 and my guest wifi network somewhere I can't recall

[clear ferry]

I do 192.168.x.0/24 for all my networks, and 10.x.x.x/24 for all my internal transit bgp or router to router networks

[finite atlas]

pleb, i just plug in my ethernet cable and call it a day

[clear ferry]

Kids these days

Gotta have micro segmentation and distributed firewalls

[clear ferry]

Norwegian has a lot of words that overlap and the meaning depends on context

I just remembered another one

[finite atlas]

So does german

[clear ferry]

Kateter, the desk of a teacher, or when you insert a tube into the uretera for hospitalized people

This might be similar for other Germanian languages

[finite atlas]

Babybrei might be a good example
Could be baby food or well, a baby turned into porridge

[glacial knot]

10.0.x/24 for virtual
192.168.x/24 for vlan

[dawn prawn]

Yeeeeeha!!!

[finite atlas]

https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/07/09/cad27b672bd225d2.jpg

[clear ferry]

Wait, what

[clear ferry]

That what happens when you are a shitty sparky

[cedar chasm]

Die spinnen, die Briten! is such a classic Asterix in German line 😄

[umbral cliff]

Tf did you do to that

[finite atlas]

The spiders, the brits!

[cedar chasm]

No the other one 😂

[dusky plank]

german server takeover when?

🇩🇪

[clear ferry]

At nein past nein

[dusky plank]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-out-of-the-couch-frank-always-sunny-gif-11832595

there is awesome multitouch detection for touchpads on macbooks since I guess 2008

wtf are other manufacturers doing today?

I click on some laptops touchpad in the middle and its registered as right click

this is just poor ux, the whole thing is one button but still 50% of it is a different action

/rant end

[shadow prawn]

He is thinking of a threesome / he is thinking of a three meter board

[finite atlas]

Ja

[shadow prawn]

Not a warning again 😂

[finite atlas]

Xiaomi is doing that aswell

[dusky plank]

every damn smartphone can do it

just f* synaptics or whatever

[low harness]

That's exactly the same thing as Helping your uncle Jack off a horse vs Helping your uncle jack off a horse...

And isn't the teachers desk a kateder, atx?

[finite atlas]

xD

[clear ferry]

Not in Norwegian

That sounds Danish

[shadow prawn]

Shiet

[clear ferry]

Shoit

[shadow prawn]

Added to my ordforråd

[clear ferry]

You can add pesselurskoillt too then

It's from my regional dialect

[forest edge]

what did you doooo?!

[hollow glacier]

Hey it’s me ur jack

[forest edge]

I haven't fried nor had a piece of electronic fry on it's own in over 30 years

[low harness]

Sounds dull…

[clear ferry]

I love me some magic smoke now and then

[shy comet]

magic smoke eh lol

[forest edge]

I guess teens wearing shock collars and shocking themselves is the new fad, reminds me of the time aerosol cans up the nose was a fad lol

[vast lily]

not sure where to ask this...... anyone know what year they started putting neutrals in the switch boxes? i am moving to a house built in 1990 and am wondering if i am going to have issuess moving over all my zwave switches

[forest edge]

what country?

[vast lily]

USA

[forest edge]

neutral wires been around since the early 80's probably even a little before. however with that said every part of the US is diffrent in how quickly homes were either updated or used what practices

[strange crag]

other countries have had neutrals for years - itsonly murica that is behind 😉

[vast lily]

interesting, so far i am not seeing a lot of 14/3

[forest edge]

odds are a home built in the 90's will have a neautral wire but that is not a 100%

[vast lily]

at least in the exposed wire

actually i havent seen any 14/3 yet

[forest edge]

buy one of those plug testers and plug it into an outlet, that will tell you the quickest if it's an option

[vast lily]

well the outlets i am not worried about, those will have a neutral for sure since they are 120v

its the light switches i suspect dont have them

[forest edge]

well generally if one part of a home has neutral, then all the wire ran within it will be the same..

unless it was a rehab

[vast lily]

but in the USA before i think fairly recently, they just ran a switched hot to the switch boxes to save money and because they never thought it would be needed in the box

[forest edge]

like i said above, it all depends where in the USA

down south they still have archaic wiring knob and tube lol

[vast lily]

lol northeast - nj

[forest edge]

a small town or a city?

[vast lily]

suburb

[forest edge]

you're probably fine

[vast lily]

it looks like my inovelli's will work without a neutral but my GE ones wont

(zwave switches))

[forest edge]

even if the wire leading directly from the switch to the bulb doesn't have a neutral line, the switch is likely fed with a line that has it

[vast lily]

that sure would be nice

in my current house i had to run new wire to every switch box but it was built in 1930 lol

[forest edge]

yea

[vast lily]

the wire was in a steel casing and was copper wrapped in some kind of woven fabric and dipped in some kind of resin

[forest edge]

most homes built around the early 80's and current use the newer code standards

and code required a neutral

[vast lily]

ok cool

thanks

[forest edge]

yea early wire used the sheath which was wire strands as the so called "ground" which grounded the metal box

was highly unreliable and broke down

what you get when you live in a country that had power while other countries still used oil lamps .. looks at whiteheat lol

[shadow prawn]

What does that mean

[vast lily]

Oh yeah t he grounds were shot before i rewired

the rubber crap they dipped the copper wires in was all dry rotted on the condutors too

so they were just copper in cloth

it made me ponder how they ever got the first transalantic telegraph cables to work

[forest edge]

well when that stuff was new it was fine

they just never forsaw what aged and degration would do to it

[clear ferry]

"pesselur" is the instrument used to have water leave your body, "skoillt" is head

[forest edge]

instrument? peepee?

wanker, dong, anaconda?

[clear ferry]

Quiet, the grown-ups are talking

[forest edge]

shlong, pecker, woody?

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/gunther-gunther-and-the-sunshine-girls-you-touch-my-tralala-tralala-ding-dong-song-gif-13464604

[rapid tendon]

Just a quick PSA, if anyone here is using Moxa MXview for their MQTT, you'll likely want to update: https://threatpost.com/critical-mqtt-bugs-industrial-rce-moxa/178399/

[rocky robin]

hello everybody

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-everybody-simpsons-wave-gif-12144219

[dusky plank]

https://tenor.com/view/forest-gump-wave-hi-hello-howdy-gif-22164679

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-man-jim-carrey-hey-hello-hi-gif-4780358

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-leo-seinfeld-hello-uncle-leo-busted-gif-13601127

[cedar chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-sweetie-doctorwho-gif-5015913

[deep quarry]

what's everyone's thoughts on thread? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_(network_protocol)

its being talked up like its the holy grail but tbh, idk if I want my shit communicating via IP out to the web.

i'll probably end up running it anyways because my job is in network engineering

[dusky plank]

https://youtu.be/mip3Q2ZJAFc?t=2341

[clear ferry]

Best regards someone who has worked with networking for 20+ years and still implement the same stuff over and over again

[deep quarry]

lol im not too far behind ya

[clear ferry]

I'm only 37 tough

Not 88 like @strange crag

[deep quarry]

lol im 36. started working for an ISP right out of highschool

[scenic radish]

I'm 29. You guys are old

[clear ferry]

I just did networking for 55 primary and secondary schools as my first job

[clear ferry]

[deep quarry]

yeah this is exactly what I am concerned with. I dont want anyone collecting my data without my consent.

[dusky plank]

its not too late

[clear ferry]

Don't tell that to the Apple fanbois

[dusky plank]

but already on the way

[light trout]

You give consent when you buy it and hook it up

[shadow prawn]

I’m ufortunately this passage had to be censored old

[light trout]

Stop that!

[static schooner]

You looked in the general direction of the box. Gotcha!

[shadow prawn]

Chill we’re just havibg some fun

[light trout]

no

[clear ferry]

That sounds like Murica EULAs

[deep quarry]

Well I know my zwave stuff isnt sending back data over the web. and anything that I run IoT on wifi uses custom firmware.

[clear ferry]

ZigBee 4 lyfe

Local is the shizzle my nizzle