#the-water-cooler

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umbral cliff
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I only had to stop 15 min for petrol, vs 30 or more for electric

forest edge
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that new rivia truck looks nice

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alitte small but looks nice

jade tartan
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wait till we start over volting shit and swapping battery packs and adding on capacitor banks to our ev's

scenic radish
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Brb, gonna overclock my Tesla

jade tartan
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hack luda mode

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dumb fucking bs hiding features behind a subscription

forest edge
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no don't do it! they will void your warrenty and you'll no longer be able to access self drive and essentially turn the thing into a giant paper weight for the next owner

umbral cliff
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You can’t transfer self drive anyway

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It’s per user per car

jade tartan
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WHICH IS BULLSHIT

umbral cliff
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So stupid

umbral cliff
# jade tartan WHICH IS BULLSHIT

Especially since you don’t get a discount on it for the next Tesla you buy even if you trade it in. Surely they would want to encourage you to buy it again

jade tartan
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ew

forest edge
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can't be too hard on elon.. he did after all kick start the whole movement lol

umbral cliff
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Also @jade tartan, is that one of your E36s in your pfp?

jade tartan
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nooooooooo

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thats a 1 of 3 GT

umbral cliff
jade tartan
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mines much more poop

forest edge
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he fights against the car industry all the time

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it's it's own ecosystem with it's own chair members and all

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I remember reading about all that during the begining

umbral cliff
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He still encourages the stupid plus plus plus lock in stuff though. Especially with how electric cars are becoming less and less repairable by indie shops or people at home

forest edge
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hell I worked in the automotive industry for a number of years and I didn't know it had it's own global head office thing lol

jade tartan
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yeah, i believe the whole, lets make it impossible basicly for indie shops to work on things is BULLLLLLSHIT

umbral cliff
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One thing I love about my e46 is how I can repair it myself if I want to

jade tartan
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^

umbral cliff
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But I’m lazy 😂

jade tartan
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^^^^^^

umbral cliff
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But like I added automatic headlights & wipers, plus fixed the antenna connection, etc all myself

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No issues there. BMW dealer happy to give me the connector pins I needed too which was nice

hot hearth
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Lmao, home assistant broke again

forest edge
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infact you'll have to do some improvement repairs once it's delievered

umbral cliff
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Also @jade tartan eventually gonna EV convert my E46. When she dies or there are rules against petrol cars that is. Will be fun to do

jade tartan
umbral cliff
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She’s got a lot of life left, 84000km (53,000mi) on the odometer so far

jade tartan
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lololol

hot hearth
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Seems my IP got banned but like there is not banned IPS yml

forest edge
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@jade tartanyou may wanna watch this before going all in lol https://youtu.be/bixJDOH864U

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hot hearth
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Oh shit, it's cloudflares IP that got banned, is there a way to allow cloudflares IP and ban based on the IP of the client?

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'''WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http.ban] Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from'''

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Ip_bans.yml does not exist tho

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Anywhere on the system

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Like I even ran find with sudo at / and still nothing

dusky plank
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its yaml, not yml

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and did you read this channels topic?

velvet horizonBOT
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hot hearth
chilly panther
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Woohoo. Installed Home Assistant yesterday and already set up a useful automation \o/

unreal nova
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Hi guys! I am a beginner an I have some automatizations based on Philips hue states. After Last update everything îs messed up regarding hue lights status. My bulb îs lit but my ha buton show tlhat îs turned off. My automatizatons not work enymore. Please do something. Thx

glacial knot
chilly panther
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Thanks! Still a bit confused with all the communication protocols, especially since I bought xiaomi stuff and dislike their gateway

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It looks like I'll have to wait for my conbee key to ship tomorrow to use some of that stuff

unreal nova
wise cypress
clear ferry
clear mirage
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Well yesterday we had building fire at my work.. Total of 5 departments showed up.

last cedar
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How bad was it? @clear mirage

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I was at a place when the fire alarm went off, everyone looked at me, but I hadn't done anything

clear mirage
last cedar
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Turned out it was in one of the transformer rooms, and it was only a dirty detector

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Was a bit scary opening the door for many reasons

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Very sorry :(

clear mirage
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It wasnt too bad. the building was geting a new roof and they cutting metal and the sparks coguht the underlayment on fire. No injureis. What didnt help was the 30-40mph wind gusts

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did make for a interesting end of day.

warm root
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Just installed 2021.12.3 and wow the Lovelace web UI is much faster than before... I don't see anything in the release notes about it though, which is strange because for me the difference is huge.

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(and with that the iOS is also way way snappier)

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Great update! 😉 Thanks devs

glacial knot
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sounds like I should update

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I hate this setting

clear mirage
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Got my occuls 2 today. Got it setup at lunch and almost hit the tv

shy comet
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cant imgaine gaming without it now honestly

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i also almost spilled a drink on my laptop lol

orchid rose
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VR is great. I can't wait for what we get in a decade or so

brisk glen
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Gaming without it? What do you do? Play all of your pc games with it?

orchid rose
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Racing games without VR for example are just a shadow of it offers. Once you go VR you don't go back

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even with the very limited FOV you currently get with the mainstream headsets

shy comet
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I do miss having a quick button to reload a gun lol....some games man it feels like a chore

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but nothing like having to run and dodge bullets or crouch behind a rock to hide

shy comet
shy comet
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@orchid rose what VR games are you currently playing? I started to checkout Pavlov and Grapple Tournament...both a lot of fun!

orchid rose
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Very few actually. I haven't been gaming a lot lately. But to me it's mostly just Assetto Corsa

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Just Google Earth is mindblowing to me

shy comet
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i need a gaming PC to mess with all that lol, current laptop has no dedicated GPU 😦

orchid rose
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rip

clear ferry
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Bbl elden ring

fallow karma
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Anyone said gaming? 👀

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I was little bit addicted some time ago

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MMO

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daily raids

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form 9pm till 2am

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everyday

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😵‍💫

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TS3

shy comet
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duck hunt VR is great for the nostalgia effect lol

fallow karma
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isnt there nokia snake VR version?

shy comet
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lol

fallow karma
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it could be interesting, view as snake head, and look at your tail

low harness
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I used to play a 3d 1st person snake back in the day.

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I'd like to see someone try Portal in VR.

clear ferry
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Resident evil in vr or gtfo

shy comet
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im just waiting on the xmas sale to pick up the next set of games now

low harness
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Add some 7.1 surround to that.

clear ferry
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I know @forest edge would just play farm simulator 24/7/365 in vr

forest edge
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headset would bother me after so long of wearing it and that time duration would just get shorter and shorter lol

shy comet
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but after about 30 minutes i usually take a 5 min break personally

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depending on what you are playing it can be tiring very quickly

forest edge
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what if your playing a game that lasts longer than that?

shy comet
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like Pistol Whip or Beat Saber

forest edge
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then you switch back to monitor and suck ass at the game?

shy comet
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eh you wait cuz VR is better lol

forest edge
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lol

shy comet
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or get a battery pack and run a wire through your shirt lol 😛

forest edge
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can already see it now.. the competitions between VR and monitor users and at that magical point VR users start dropping like flies lol

clear ferry
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I tried vr in 1996 the first time, it's gotten better since, but nothing I'd bother investing in yet

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Google cardboard plus smartphone is fun enough with Google Street view

shy comet
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for the same price as a xbox or nintentdo switch.....cant go wrong

low harness
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I must say Breath of the Wild VR was a terrible disappointment.

clear ferry
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Revisiting countries I've been to before

forest edge
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considering you were using that nintendo vr thing that just showed the images all in red atx...

shy comet
clear ferry
shy comet
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im really digging the mechanics being built in with accelerometer and gyroscope

low harness
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Google earth is the only thing I've played on a real VR headset since the very first occulus beta thingy. Flew through some cities. Kind of cool.

forest edge
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let me know when we reach ready player one lvl of vr and i'll give it a try lol

clear ferry
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It has good potential for virtual cooperation meetings discussing cad models with colleagues in vr

shy comet
forest edge
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lol board meeting where everyone's avatar is a diffrent furry

fallow karma
clear ferry
shy comet
forest edge
shy comet
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ahha yea, at least with the quest it has the guardian feature where it kicks in teh IR cameras so you can see everything lol

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although it only really saves you when your head leaves the area, arms can reach throuh

forest edge
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lol

shy comet
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one game ive been enjoying more than i thought is Walkabout Mini Golf....pretty well built game with crazy rounds lol

forest edge
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what you don't go into that VR chat game? that thing from what littles i've seen was built for VR before VR was even available

shy comet
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umm havnet done much yet, i checked out horizon worlds....seems cool

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theres a VR MMA fight tomorrow to watch...kinda cool teh camera is ring side

orchid rose
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Can't wait to have football (soccer) in VR. It won't be perfect because it's only 360 vs 5-degrees-of-freedom, but still something else

shy comet
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need accelerometer and gyroscope

clear ferry
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Muse has a music video in vr, it's pretty cool

shy comet
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oh do they? i gotta check it out

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wonder if its in youtube VR

clear ferry
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It's at least 3-4 years old

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It is

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Revolt i belive it was

shy comet
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awesome ill watch that in a bit lol

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i really enjoyed the lego batman VR experience

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was also bad ass of universal to upload teh back to the future ride!

forest edge
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dshokouhi is lost to us forever, may his soul rest in peace.

orchid rose
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You can meet with him in some virtual world

shy comet
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lol

forest edge
crisp sapphire
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Fyi:

I think some mechanism is accidentally removing ppls community repos. Just logged in and it was gone.

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Im a power user and i def didnt remove it. Infact i didnt even touch the instance.

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uppon googling, it seems like a bunch of ppl have had the same issue.

clever mortar
crisp sapphire
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no problems just something i noticed

clever mortar
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Still off topic for this channel

crisp sapphire
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will do next time then

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All these channels do get confusing imo

clever mortar
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Then you need to pay more attention to the channel name and the topic

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On mobile, swipe in from the side to see the topic

crisp sapphire
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Thats easy. I meant the unwritten rules. Sometimes a topic can technically go in two or even three channels and be valid depending on the thought process.

velvet horizonBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that. If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived.

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No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

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clever mortar
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Pretty clear about this channel

crisp sapphire
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thats more useful. Wish i had known that command.

clever mortar
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It's the channel topic, the one you can see by swiping in from the side on mobile

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Or at the top of the screen on desktop

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I know you've been pointed at them many times before 😉

crisp sapphire
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Lol yea thats a me problem. Iv got severe dyslexia and visual snow. Stuff gets hectic haha

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Il try my best

forest edge
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ok so just confirmed the new "Berennis" smart bulbs from amazon are using esp32's, magichome, works local only flawlessly just fyi

clear ferry
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Weekend at Berennis

shy comet
jade tartan
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weeeee

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2nd day done

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got work phone set up but stayed at desk because some update or something

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i need to learn to SSH into routers and switches now

jade tartan
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and by that i mean i need to learn cisco routers and switches

crisp sapphire
scenic radish
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Want to see some internal photos

hollow glacier
crisp sapphire
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home assistant onlyfans

clear ferry
clear ferry
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Frankly I should have posted a colonoscopy gif

forest edge
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@scenic radishSee an FCC icon printed but don't see an ID

scenic radish
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Damn

forest edge
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what you looking for?

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pretty sure it's the same as my other ones just they using the esp32 rather than the 8266

subtle pasture
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I'm scanning 2000 endpoints for log4j vulnerabilities right now... it's not looking good

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Upside: Job security.
Downside: 60+ servers to find patches for...

jade tartan
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i also need to learn more about vlans

clear ferry
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Oh boy

jade tartan
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yeah

clear ferry
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You have a long way to go, but with proper interest you should be fine

jade tartan
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uh, yeah, get to like up there in cisco levels and you can make BANK

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just from those certs

clear ferry
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Not really imo

jade tartan
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100k?

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fuck 70k take home ?

clear ferry
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Certs are something two kinds of people do.
1 people who don't know what they are doing who think certifications help them get a job
2. People who have worked with something for 10+ years do because someone wants them to

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There are a gazillion people out there with Cisco certs, I know at least five who don't even work in networking anymore

jade tartan
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im just trying to make myself more valuable

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and i'd love to move up eventually

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but i guess when i get to tier 3 in the pay scale or w/e i can get 31/hr

clear ferry
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Value comes from actual skill, certifications these days are mostly due to RFP requests

forest edge
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i didn't think system admins made very much these days

jade tartan
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well then i guess i just need to watch a fuck ton of youtube about cisco 's OS and routers and switches and shit

forest edge
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lol

clear ferry
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No idea for the us, I'm guessing $80-100k a year here for sysadmin with good experience and multiple years in the company

forest edge
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I seriously doubt it's that much here but then it also depends what company you hire with too

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I been out of that field for so long that I don't really know, can only go off bits and pieces I read every so often

clear ferry
scenic radish
# forest edge what you looking for?

If there are pads for flashing and if not, how difficult it would be to access the module. Then again, it's a moot point if the eFuse is burned

clear ferry
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But networking 101 is first, vlans is fundamental

forest edge
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wtf is an efuse?

scenic radish
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In the case of the ESP32, it prevents alternative firmware from being flashed

hollow glacier
clear ferry
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An electronically trippable fuse

jade tartan
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i mean MY job will be dealing with cisco switches and routers from the standpoint of making cameras, door access, phones, iot, things work, not even full PC clients

forest edge
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I will admit these bulbs are slightly shorter than my original ones so the layout may be a little diffrent. my originals everything but gpio 0 was easy as hell to reach

jade tartan
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so like today we ran a cable for a PA system

hollow glacier
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@clear ferry sounds like they're just gonna have him be uploading already made configs

forest edge
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really don't feel like poping a top off one to see atm. I did that with one of my originals and it's like moisture got in there or something. bulb still works but the wifi range on it was a little whacky

hollow glacier
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since he sounds liek he doesnt know shit about cli or networking lol

clear ferry
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If the will to learn is there, networking is a huge field

hollow glacier
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word

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i forgot all the shit i learned from ccna classes

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at least the cli shit

clear ferry
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But i got bored, so I work with a dozen other product families on top of networking

jade tartan
hollow glacier
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they made a ton of changes to their certs

forest edge
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just learn enough to plug in the device and fake the rest

clear ferry
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Your entire career then @forest edge

forest edge
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literally noone knew anything about networking or pc's for that matter so it was easy to fake your way around.

hollow glacier
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sounds like every small business ever

forest edge
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not this day and age

hollow glacier
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i disagree lol

forest edge
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however one bad thing was the invention of the certs

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companies wanted people to get certs that did thier actual job no beneifit whatsoever

hollow glacier
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in like 20 person companies or less? IT is a cost center and gets to do lots with no money lol

forest edge
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and that shit was expensive too, like 300+

hollow glacier
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if you're ever feeling dumb look up practice questions for a+ etc

clear ferry
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Lol I was forced to do a n+

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That was horrible

hollow glacier
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lol^

clear ferry
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"what is the command for pinging" a)ping B) pong C) peng

forest edge
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as long as you already had an established job in IT before certs came about you were golden, if you didn't then it was a literal Duck Hunt

clear ferry
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Certs is mostly an American thing tbh

forest edge
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Glad I aged through that period the way I did is all I gotta say lol

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all the benifits none of the headaches and cost out of pocket

subtle pasture
jade tartan
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i have all field xp

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and no certs

subtle pasture
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Same

jade tartan
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but yeah, i now need to learn cisco's CLI and sich

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more then fine with that

subtle pasture
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Looks like every server we manage with APC PowerChute installed is vulnerable... joy...

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That's basically every single Hyper-V host in our deployment

last cedar
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Vulnerable to?

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The java thingie?

subtle pasture
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Schneider Electric has confirmed the issue, but no patches are available as of yet...

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@last cedar Yeah, APC PowerChute and APC Network Shutdown both use log4j

last cedar
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Good to know, thanks

subtle pasture
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Which means it's trivial to send a single command and gain a root/admin shell on the system running it

last cedar
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I only used it for initial setup, use NUT now to talk to my router, and it acts as a NUT server

subtle pasture
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Which, in the case of a hypervisor host... is very bad...

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apcupsd isn't vulnerable, so there's that, at least

last cedar
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Indeed!

forest edge
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ew powerchute

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I should have taken up machine shop learning before I gotten old and lazy

subtle pasture
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We have a ton of clients who have a single server and a single APC UPS, and need to coordinate VM shutdown during extended power outages. PowerChute is the way to do that

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I mean, we could deploy NUT, but then we become the end-to-end support for whatever we rigged up and deployed...

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If we deploy APC PowerChute, then APC takes the heat 🤷‍♀️

forest edge
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I guess it depends who actually codes current powershute. in the older days schneider contracted it out which was good and bad in it's own ways and they may still do that which honestly I would trust over them doing it themselves since schneider may be a good electrical product company but just like the others, they are ass when it comes to software.

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course you have home and buisness versions so the buisness may be way better as well. i do not know

silver grail
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hi guys, I am a teacher of IT in the Netherlands. I introduced this year a course called IOT and we are making Home Assistant in a virtual machine. So far so good. We installed ha, nodeRed and zigbee2mqtt. I bought a lot of aqara, philips, ikea zigbee devices and the game is on

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i thought, maybe you guys have an idea what we can use as well

scenic radish
forest edge
scenic radish
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Good boy

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Might be worth taking a chance on for that sweet hardware PWM

forest edge
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25 bucks for 3 bulbs. slightly more expensive then the 20 I paid for the original 3 i got

scenic radish
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Not a bad deal if they turn out to be flashable

forest edge
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anything that runs magichome I think is an esp

scenic radish
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Unfortunately not

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And if they're ESP32 and the eFuse is burned, that means no tasmota :(

forest edge
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I remember you talking about the controllers

scenic radish
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I've noticed that MagicHome stuff seems to commonly be ESP based

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I've been burned before though

forest edge
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I mean, magic home is completely local only and works great now with the improved flux intergration.. don't really call that being burned lol

scenic radish
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Well I just strongly prefer tasmota

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But yeah, at least it's local

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Used 3 pack for $21

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Tempting

forest edge
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the older version of these bulbs are 8266

scenic radish
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Hawt

forest edge
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the only reason I strongly believe these newer ones are esp32 cause they also have ble

scenic radish
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Oh I thought you knew for sure

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There are non-ESP WiFi modules with BLE

forest edge
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I stated earlier i wasn't going to pop the top off on one just yet lol

scenic radish
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You said they have an ESP32 😂

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Why you gotta play me like this

forest edge
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heh your right

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not esp

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that sucks

forest edge
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my older ones are

scenic radish
tidal bronze
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Limited milage on $25

forest edge
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interesting these are risc-v chips

scenic radish
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Espressif has RISC-V modules

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ESP32-C3

forest edge
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so these are clones of the esp32?

scenic radish
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Probably not?

forest edge
scenic radish
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Hard to say without seeing the module

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The WB3x line of modules are non-ESP but are pin compatible with the ESP-12 (ESP8266)

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I've done about 20 transplants with those

forest edge
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I dunno sounds like these new chips might actually be flashable at some point

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this is why I never flashed my originals to esp or tas cause I knew one day I would be putting myself into a corner lol

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that and I couldn't reach the gpio 0 without becoming mr fantastic

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dunno how that is a question mark

green inlet
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@scenic radish , can always reach the gpio 0 because he IS mr fantastic

forest edge
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cept it's his third arm that is able to reach it

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i will say the range and wifi stablity on these newer ones is way better than my originals

scenic radish
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I will never recover from what you did to me

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I have blue balls now

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"hey guys, these bulbs have ESP32"

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hours later

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"so I lied"

forest edge
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how about you invest more time in getting the esp32 with risc-v supported then you can flash the buffalou ones

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i just ran across a post from someone going down that very rabbit hole lol

scenic radish
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Yeah, I saw something about that. Pretty crazy

scenic radish
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With Tasmota at least

forest edge
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that post was alittle bit older, said neither was

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so if tasmota supports it then buy them and give them a try

scenic radish
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ESP32 with RISC-V (ESP32-C3 and variants) is supported

forest edge
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it stated on that spec sheet they are flashable.. although don't know about that efuse thing since it lists that it has that as well

scenic radish
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The non-ESP module you're talking about isn't

forest edge
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the git post I ran across talked about flashing those chips with the esp32 -c or whatever

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since it's a clone

scenic radish
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Sauce pls

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Big if true

forest edge
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your the mad scientist here not me, make it werk!

scenic radish
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🤣

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Still wanna see that source boi

glacial knot
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Make the post I wanted to read

forest edge
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oh well gl with that, lets see if it's shows in the history lol

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guess we call them pinecones

scenic radish
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So it looks like Arduino support is (almost?) there which is a first step

forest edge
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see bright light at the end of the tunnel

scenic radish
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Sure, but tasmota still isn't flashable on them like you said 🤣

forest edge
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i never said it was tas flashable. I just said I thought they were esp32 lol

jade tartan
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make a new firmware

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do it

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i have faith

forest edge
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yea tediore.. doooo it!

jade tartan
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you have many supporters

forest edge
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and i wasn't 100% wrong, it is a esp32 clone lol

scenic radish
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Oh nvm, I misread something you said

jade tartan
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did you misread us, basicly begging you for new firmware that would work on these new chips?

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me love you long time

scenic radish
#

🤣

#

That's a bit above my pay grade

jade tartan
#

but but but....

forest edge
#

you may not have much of a choice as long as these other options are cheaper

#

so thrilled magichome implemented the local api

#

you don't even have to make an account, you just pick local only mode when setting up the bulbs in the app lol

jade tartan
#

oh word

#

i still need to flash that other rgbw strip controller i just got

#

and the s31's

#

ive been lazy

forest edge
scenic radish
forest edge
#

yea but your running out of donor options

jade tartan
#

i should order more silentcare bulbs now before they change

scenic radish
#

Not really. The WB3x line of modules is still popular

forest edge
#

isn't that what tuya uses?

jade tartan
#

i wish silent care had a 15w model

scenic radish
forest edge
#

I didn't think those were supported

scenic radish
#

They're not; that's why I said transplant

forest edge
#

oh i misunderstood what you were putting down

scenic radish
#

And I think I misunderstood what you said about donor options 😄

forest edge
#

seems like a lot of work just to run tasmota

scenic radish
#

It's pretty quick and fun, at least on the devices I've done it on

#

Hot air gun makes it E Z P Z

forest edge
#

what you gonna do when it's no longer an option?

#

|| switch to magichome ||

jade tartan
#

EW

scenic radish
#

I'm pretty set with the devices I've stocked up on

forest edge
#

lol you got a pantry full of smart bulbs huh?

scenic radish
#

I've got some...spares

#

Not quite as many as others I know though lol

#

You looking for BR30s by any chance @jade tartan ?

jade tartan
#

i need more glowy, all around

#

not as much directional

scenic radish
#

Yeah, BR30s are typically used with recessed lights

#

My office which is in the basement has five 6" can lights. I've got RGB-CCT BR30s flashed with Tasmota in there controlled by a Martin Jerry dimmer also flashed with Tasmota via device groups

#

Tasmota device groups are the shit

forest edge
#

lol martin jerry.. such a funny name

scenic radish
#

Jartin Merry

forest edge
#

so do you disco in your office?

scenic radish
#

Absolutely

jade tartan
#

UM

#

how

forest edge
#

I couldn't have rgb bulbs inside the house. it would lead me to me falling down stairs or something

scenic radish
#

One sec

jade tartan
#

i want disco mode for all rgb's in the house

#

also i wana be able to flash a certain light, a certain color when a event triggers

scenic radish
jade tartan
#

you know, tas needs better rgbw features and shit

forest edge
jade tartan
#

i just wana be able to do fancy lighting effects

#

but shits gotta be complicated

forest edge
#

wtf do you mean by fancy? they all do the same stuff

jade tartan
#

like, what about fading up

#

and down

#

and making them all fade on in sequence

#

or like flash them on events

#

or like disco mode

scenic radish
#

Fading on and off is already built in to tas

jade tartan
#

MORE FEATURES

#

sync with music

#

and like automaticly switching color balance to cool white in morning

#

and soft after sunset

forest edge
#

you could stick wled on it

scenic radish
#

Yeah, I think some of that stuff is out of scope for tas

forest edge
#

the firmware is limited to whatever your bulb can do

scenic radish
jade tartan
#

LOOK

scenic radish
#

And something I do

jade tartan
#

do effort for me

#

im lazy

#

ill give you $1

forest edge
#

cannot be lazy and expect to move up in the IT field

jade tartan
#

to be completely honest

#

i dont wana

#

lolololol

#

im fine exactly where i am

#

not having to make sure critical systems run correctly

#

just that the lines tone out

forest edge
#

@tidal bronze you still alive and with an unlooted home?

clear ferry
strange crag
#

love that - pokemon - why not step outside. Nearby shots fired! lol
go outside to get shot 😉 Evil Pokemon

fallow karma
#

Hi. I am looking for outside temp sensor , no matter BLE or zigbee but i couldn't find nothing interesting so far... Any ideas ?

clear ferry
dusky plank
clear ferry
#

Fun fact for you

#

There is a Norwegian dish called kleppmelk

#

Which literally translates to chunky milk

orchid rose
#

🤢

clear ferry
#

One can say seat massage in the car is pompous

#

But fuck it is nice

last cedar
#

Like Swedish Fil then

clear ferry
#

Bilfil

finite atlas
#

i agree, seat massage is nice

green inlet
#

The dough part looks like dumplings from chicken and dumplings. Milk and dumplings.

clear ferry
glacial knot
#

Entrypoint for remote debugging

silent nexus
#

Does anyone know if there are bulk deals on pi 0s? I've found that I have so many ideas but I want to do all of them instead of pick and choose 😛

clear ferry
#

Lots of cheap ones on AliExpress

silent nexus
#

I'll have to check it out, have you had good experience with AliExpress? I'm a bit apprehensive with foreign shipping sometimes. Lost things/super delays.

clear ferry
#

I have a couple of hundred orders on AliExpress per year

#

I would say yes

#

I've had two or three packages not arrive

#

And always get money back

#

Usually 12-16 days to Norway outside of holidays

silent nexus
#

That's good to hear, I’ve not ordered from them before.

fiery sorrel
# clear ferry Lots of cheap ones on AliExpress

are they the same soc ?
I am surprised because on amazon and all of our local pi reseller, can't find any b3 b3+ or 4 ... and the price on ebay are jacked up.
I ended up buying 2 from my boss that didn't need them.

fiery sorrel
hollow glacier
#

@clear ferry you’re talking about pi knock offs like orange pi etc not actual pis correct?

hollow glacier
fiery sorrel
#

what's hyperion ? i'm finding some ios desing tool on google

hollow glacier
#

Hyperion-ng

fiery sorrel
#

oh that thing :D

#

sorry, forgot about it

hollow glacier
#

Ignore not perfect colors. I was testing in that snippet

fiery sorrel
#

i want some only to be able to deploy my config on them in less than 20mn :(
Saltstack don't like very small node

clear ferry
#

My intention was also Hyperion,but haven't finished the project yet

hollow glacier
#

I run arduino behind tv driving leds and raspi controlling them

low harness
hollow glacier
#

With android Hyperion grabber on nvidia shield

hollow glacier
clear ferry
#

Interesting, Holland in full lockdown

#

Wondering if we will do that before Christmas

fiery sorrel
#

(also, for once, i unchecked the notification ! yay !)

clear ferry
#

It's one of my kinks

#

That is for sure

fiery sorrel
#

well ... i always say that you should not judge people's kink :)
Happy you like ... whatever this is :P

clear ferry
#

Found a picture of @dusky plank and @orchid rose getting ready for battle

#

Also, it isn't Christmas without Tom Waits

fiery sorrel
#

This track is not available in your country f*ck every subscription services

#

Maybe aside from hass cloud ...

#

maybe ...

clear ferry
#

You can probably find it on YouTube

#

Or Le Tube De You

fiery sorrel
#

i mean, there is no other way to support Hass... so i pay for it and don't bother using it...

I'll check for the song

#

That's special and because i don't know the artist i don't know how much it's acting vs real

clear ferry
#

Well

#

If you don't know tom waits

#

You have a lot of listening to do

#

He has a... Persona, but a very interesting one

#

He played in Dracula too, the one with Keanu Reeves

fiery sorrel
#

it's a very unique style, very dark, but also lite.
I like the idea, don't know if it's a good time for it tho

clear ferry
#

His album Closing time is one of my favourite ever

#

It is very different from his other albums

fiery sorrel
#

i'll add it to the list of "to check out when the mood get better".
I have a couple of dark film in this to, so i know i'll definitely get back to it.

#

1973 ... my parent were in school XD

forest edge
#

atx music chat

forest edge
hollow glacier
clear ferry
fiery sorrel
hollow glacier
#

pony shirt?

fiery sorrel
#

fu*k me it was 8y ago already

hollow glacier
#

you can curse on the internet

fiery sorrel
#

yea, but isn't this a family friendly discord ? 😏

#

(i read it, i know how it goes)

hollow glacier
fiery sorrel
fiery sorrel
hollow glacier
#

the only discord server i've had issues with cursing in is drzzs but i think that's due to the mormon vibes

#

some super strange folks there

fiery sorrel
#

i googled mormon ... i shouldn't have

hollow glacier
#

lol

#

the LDS church shit is whacko

wet pilot
#

change the topic please

hollow glacier
#

lol

fiery sorrel
#

i like to learn, but i should know googling random word from discord might lead to horrible discovery

clear ferry
#

Scunthorpe

#

Scunthorpe

#

🥳

brisk glen
#

more fun to do it manually

clear ferry
#

It even caught my northern English shoite

brisk glen
#

news flash... do not google random phrases you read on the internet

#

you might forever be changed by the knowledge bestowed upon thee

clear ferry
#

Yes, rule 34 homekit will forever haunt me

brisk glen
#

like become one of use who spends 2k on their network alone and 4k on their home automation

fiery sorrel
#

darn...

brisk glen
#

at least with Matter, Homekit is a master and HA is a master

fiery sorrel
clear ferry
#

I've been running my homelab since 1997

fiery sorrel
#

i was born in 97

clear ferry
#

The year I discovered Linux

brisk glen
#

I just replaced the last of my wifi hardware with wifi6

hollow glacier
#

not 6e?

#

i dont even own any wifi 6 devices..

#

no laptop and older phone

fiery sorrel
#

won't do it yet, because i don't have any device.
But i'm waiting for my country to approuve 6e frequency

hollow glacier
#

IoT is still almost all 2.4 anyway

brisk glen
#

I have nothing that uses 6e, but I have a few devices that use 6

hollow glacier
#

i was told to not waste my time with 6 and go straight to 6e

brisk glen
#

the rest are on thread

hollow glacier
#

silly to limit yourself on spectrum no?

fiery sorrel
brisk glen
#

@hollow glacier triband mesh

hollow glacier
#

ew

#

you said the word

brisk glen
#

wifi cameras on one 5 ghz band

fiery sorrel
#

wifi camera Oo

brisk glen
#

iot on 2.4 or thread

fiery sorrel
#

poor wifi

brisk glen
#

rest on the other wifi 5ghz band

#

I am not allowed to punch holes in the wall in this apartment 😦

fiery sorrel
#

i only have a 2 band AP ... the old unifi one... so my 5ghz is squiky clean

hollow glacier
#

drywall repair is easy but i know what you mean

brisk glen
#

brick is not easy

#

where I need to go, its wood and brick

hollow glacier
#

brick apartment?!

fiery sorrel
#

pfff do your REALY need that check back ?

#

:P

hollow glacier
#

the big bad wolf would've hated to come there

brisk glen
#

old unifi, sooo UNIFI SHD?

hollow glacier
#

shd isnt that old...

#

and a weird one to pick

#

with its own security radio or w/e

brisk glen
#

it may as well be with its useless security radio

hollow glacier
#

iirc it's also like $500?

brisk glen
#

$550 last time I checked

fiery sorrel
#

i mean, the new craze here are straw house ...

brisk glen
#

1k clients in theory

fiery sorrel
#

let me check

brisk glen
#

yes

hollow glacier
#

i doubt unifi controller could handle that shit

brisk glen
#

4 Gb of ram on the Ap...

#

I should run HA on there

fiery sorrel
#

Uap AC PRO, 3 of them

fiery sorrel
brisk glen
#

unifi mesh has issues lol

fiery sorrel
#

next house, i'll buy the good stuff

#

but right now, i just clicked by mistake on the update buton of my 10GB backbone switch

#

it's 11am, and i was going to bed ....

#

fu*k

brisk glen
#

and before soft bricked

fiery sorrel
#

since i've fiddled with the management vlan ... probably yea

hollow glacier
#

but i havent looked into it that much

brisk glen
#

wpa3 helps a bit

hollow glacier
#

this is my poor man's unifi setup

#

couldnt justify/afford rack tax on a big poe switch

#

it would look different if money weren't an issue

brisk glen
#

would be ok wifi unifi except they had a nutjob head of everything and extorted the company, while they were pushing their cloud login crap hard

hollow glacier
#

man that shit is hilarious

brisk glen
#

so said nutjob had access to every unifi network

#

thus most of their good DEVs quit

hollow glacier
#

the guy who LITERALLY RAN CLOUD couldnt even setup a deadman's switch if vpn disconnected

#

and instead leaked his wan ip

#

like man

#

you can go on github and find tons of repos with this done for you

fiery sorrel
#

look internet is back ! i didn't broke it to much !

hollow glacier
#

and yet he diy'd it and that was his downfall

brisk glen
#

like unifi protect is yeas behind already of what it was supposed to be

hollow glacier
#

apparently his inet went down and leaked wan ip from his surfshark vpn which was then traceable to his fuckin paypal

#

like bruh

#

i run and like protect.. it's not frigate but it's good enough

brisk glen
#

I also run and like it but a lot of false promises

hollow glacier
#

it's bs what they did with EoL'ing unifi video

brisk glen
#

oh yah, we will use that usb port for something nice

forest edge
#

only those who smell atx's farts don't run frigate

hollow glacier
#

i thought hpe were jet engines with shit parts and lots of proprietary funziez to boot?

brisk glen
#

thank god the unifi protect app works with wireguard now

fiery sorrel
#

don't forget timebomb for BBU

#

i never put my unifi on the cloud, and never will ... safty first

forest edge
#

hpe is the same as hp just the electric version

fiery sorrel
#

since i have a e208 car ... i am not happy with that joke XD

#

FU atx, it's a good little car

#

the manufacturer suck ... but the car is fun

#

i love it 😍

clear ferry
#

There is a Norwegian saying, never buy cars that start with F, Fiat, Ford and French

fiery sorrel
#

🤣

#

Stellantis est un groupe automobile multinational fondé le 16 janvier 2021 résultant de la fusion du groupe PSA et de Fiat Chrysler Automobiles.
Le groupe Stellantis exploite et commercialise quatorze marques automobiles dont cinq issues du Groupe PSA (Citroën, DS Automobiles, Opel, Peugeot et Vauxhall) et dix issues de FCA (Abarth, Alfa Romeo, ...

#

that is quite the list of no no car

forest edge
#

those cars always reminds me of that scene in the movie love potion #9 with the Italian car manufacture ceo

#

Alta Fazolli was the name

fiery sorrel
#

i like the idea that there is a RAM car brand...

brisk glen
#

ford fusion or fiesta

#

best car if you want to go kill yourself but have no idea when and where it will happen

#

just soon

forest edge
#

i got myself and 6 other friends in a rented fiesta one time

fiery sorrel
#

nice :) keeping the surprise

tidal bronze
#

@forest edge upgraded subs and running corrections since last night 😆

forest edge
#

this was the older fiesta hatchback tho

tidal bronze
#

Don't know anything about smash and grab

forest edge
tidal bronze
#

Gotta be perfect

brisk glen
#

nothing like having a wheel randomly locking up on the freeway

forest edge
#

oh I thought maybe you meant the state was running low on authority officers and had to resort to deputizing citizens to help handle all the crimminals that been running loose

tidal bronze
#

You know more about Cali all day

forest edge
#

news is news.. I don't make it lol

tidal bronze
forest edge
#

hmm what.. not my fault you apparently don't own a tv and only hear of whats going on around you from the mailman once in awhile

tidal bronze
#

Life is peaceful that way.

forest edge
#

honestly with the sheer amount of shit going on in that state.. I would chuck my tv out as well or move to a diffrent state lol

tidal bronze
#

Nothing is happening for all I know. Then again I spend all my time at home the 2 or 3 days I am here.

forest edge
#

lol

tidal bronze
#

Driven only 980 miles this year

forest edge
#

just watched that glitterbomb 4.0 video where they placed the majority of the one's they made in SF cause it's the package theft capital of the country

brisk glen
#

yet insurance is still $100 a month

forest edge
#

I've had to clear cobwebs from my center console the two times I got in my truck this year

tidal bronze
#

82 flights though. 😆

forest edge
#

f that

last cedar
#

Username checks out

#

(nearly)

forest edge
#

you know when a public airplane retains your ass print on the same seat you know you visit it too much

tidal bronze
#

Not flying next 10 days, no thank you.

#

The crazies are out and about

forest edge
forest edge
#

so it sounds like if you have had the two vaccine shots then omicron will be kind of like eating at an authentic mexican restraunt and being alittle careless with the hot sauce

jade tartan
#

OR

#

you just yolo

#

cause like, if god wants me dead, he wants me dead

brisk glen
#

Gods want you dead for being a dumbass and not seeing the sign to take the ram vax

jade tartan
#

i dont encounter male sheep really very often

#

and the vax i'd have against them, is a 12 gauge

#

strangely on topic though, talking about sheep that is..

finite atlas
#

I'm soon starting a fire at our house, i bought around 600 thrown away laptop batteries to salvage the individual cells out of it for my power wall

umbral cliff
#

(If any work on lion/ lipo batteries)

finite atlas
#

i got a bucket of sand and a fire extinguisher
had done around 600 cells prior with no incidents besides the one i forced to happen on purpose

jade tartan
#

what kinda capacity are you going for?

#

@finite atlas

finite atlas
#

i wanna scale it up to 100kWh+ with a 3.95v-3.4v range

jade tartan
#

what are you running that full pack at?

finite atlas
#

14s config

#

so 55.3v max, 47.6v min

jade tartan
#

woooooorrrrrd

#

i wana do something like that eventually when i can score land

finite atlas
#

its hella time consuming tho
i got each pack for 1€ each averaging 8-9 cells

#

i have about 4800 cells to test

umbral cliff
#

I wouldn’t trust my own work for this stuff tbh

#

Too risky

finite atlas
#

its risky, agreed

#

but thats where sand gets in handy

#

did some arson tests and it works like a charm

jade tartan
#

i was just thinking buying wrecked EV batterys

finite atlas
#

that works aswell, try to go for LFP to be on the safe side, as those dont really burn

jade tartan
#

ORRRR

#

i try to buy land with eather a natural gas well on it

#

OR

#

a river that doesnt freeze

umbral cliff
jade tartan
#

the key thing is free

#

i personally dont care if i burn tires to power my power

#

cause i couldnt cause 1/100th the polution in my life that some corps put out in 1 month

strange crag
jade tartan
#

the best thing would be to divert a small narrowing portion to sink a turbine into a pipe so the fast moving water through the pipe would get you something

#

saw a dude using a long hose witha heavty drop to power a washing machine ripped apart and repurposed as a generator

strange crag
#

out here - the river is likely to dry up - not freeze.

#

or be 50 foot deep in the same year!

jade tartan
#

i mean, if your feeling zesty, and big power lines go over your property, you could throw up some inductance coils around them to siphon off some for yourself

strange crag
#

dont even have to be around them - just near them.

#

the magnetic field should extend quite a way from the high power lines

jade tartan
#

i feel like i read an article once of a farmer doing that

#

you wouldnt download power would you?

strange crag
#

bet the article was about him getting in trouble for it lol

#

in theory it would be easy. Have a coil on top of my caravan and park under the line. Move on before they can find me lol

jade tartan
#

i mean, in reality, how can you be held liable for anything

#

if the waves are essentially being broadcast

strange crag
#

I bet they would have an argument for that, but yes they are broadcast so should be free - just like Nikolas Tesla was trying to do - and they stopped him from achieving it.

jade tartan
#

i cant wait to hear their arguement in court, lol

#

i want that shit publicly televised

strange crag
#

heheeh it would be a really great to be a fly on the wall there !

jade tartan
#

i honestly think it should kinda be at the discression of the private party's involved, but like if im in court and WANT the news in the court room, i should be allowed that

strange crag
#

yes, but guess you have to be able to bribe the judge into allowing or stopping it.

jade tartan
#

i mean, if you have enough money to bribe the judge......

#

lol

strange crag
#

then yho are a corporation!

jade tartan
#

tbf, you really only need a family member and a gun.....

#

mmmmwwwwaahahahahaahahahaha

strange crag
#

heheeh yup!

jade tartan
#

ugh, i want a decent tv for a wall mount monitor

strange crag
#

I just want a decent TV

jade tartan
#

i mean if i found a decent main tv i could use the current one for the wall

strange crag
#

that means you are going to have to do some shopping!! lol

#

what do you class as decent?

jade tartan
#

picky, i'd have to see it

#

matte screen, 4k, something decent for not crazy expensive

#

i refuse to spend 1000 on a tv

#

thinking like 600 ish max

#

for a 55-65

strange crag
#

$US?

#

cos that sounds about right for $AUS

jade tartan
#

yeah US

#

can easily find a decent 4k 55in for lik 600 ish

strange crag
#

Thats curious, cos I thought that US got luxuries cheaper than AU. Looks like its evening out lol

jade tartan
#

the us is legit getting cancerous inflation

#

like

#

if a company can jack up it's prices right now, they are, and it's complete bullshit

strange crag
#

well the US is suffering under a 73 trillion dollar debt! The bubble will burst soon

jade tartan
#

lets hope it doesnt lose me my job at all, and lets hope it enables me to buy a house right as the market shits so i get it cheap

strange crag
#

you missed the boat at the GFC - houses in US were going for like$3000 or $4000! I would have bought one if it wasnt for a little thing like needing a green card lol

jade tartan
#

i want to buy land

#

ideally i'd like 20-40 acres

#

and i'd throw a trailer on and then build something later

#

in the area i live in that can be anywhere from like 30-100k

#

for just the bare undeveloped land

#

then power and water is like 10-20k depending how you do it, and then a used trailer of some kind is like 20k

strange crag
#

Land sounds cheap for that sort of acreage, but the other stuff is about the same as us. Instead of putting power on, what about fully off grid?

#

gotta be cheaper than letting the scumbag power companies get their hooks into you?

jade tartan
#

depends on ALOT

forest edge
#

land ranges in price by location

jade tartan
#

we have alot of snow

#

so we need mains power really

#

i saw recently a plot that was like 87 acres for 100k

strange crag
#

I would say - time to move to warmer climates lol

jade tartan
#

naaaaaaaaa

#

i like snow

strange crag
#

it might be nice to visit -0 but I certainly wouldnt want to live in it - would end up feeling like an eskimo 😉

#

or a penguin!

forest edge
#

0c is not the same as 0f so I think you are refering to 0f

strange crag
#

sorry the -0 is my fingers on this laptop keyboard

forest edge
#

0c is freaking cold and not a normal temp unless you are in alaska

strange crag
#

I agree zero degrees is freaking cold - but you guys get it even colder brrrr

forest edge
#

I mean we get spurts, but it's not something that normally lasts

jade tartan
strange crag
#

I class anything below 15C as cold. That translates to 59F

jade tartan
#

i live in ny, it's 32f regularly, which is 0c isnt it?

#

hell it's been like 26f

strange crag
#

yes 0C = 32F

#

The movies say that ny is the place to be - but I would disagree lol

scenic radish
strange crag
#

yup

scenic radish
#

🙃

strange crag
#

lol

#

thats us thinking about you guys!

strange crag
#

from our perspective 😉

jade tartan
#

which way do your toilets spin

strange crag
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same way our sinks do !

scenic radish
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My toilet stays still

strange crag
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and boathtubs

scenic radish
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If yours is spinning, I'd call a plumber

strange crag
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bathtubs*

jade tartan
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im the plumber

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so no please fucking god dont let their be an issue

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i dont want to have to fix anything

scenic radish
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Plumber? I HARDLY KNOW 'ER!

jade tartan
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it's better that way, no child support

scenic radish
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I want an m.2 coral v badly

strange crag
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lol

scenic radish
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Go away, chip shortage

forest edge
forest edge
umbral cliff
strange crag
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lol - lived there for at least 10 years and in Vic for a lot longer than that - definitely time for a change and to thaw out.

umbral cliff
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And I’m moving to Canberra. Where it gets even fucking colder 😂

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I hate the cold too

forest edge
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oh poor you.. what is the lowest it gets? 5c? lol

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shorts weather here during spring

finite atlas
umbral cliff
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So quite cold for australia

clear ferry
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-2 here now, we had -16 last week

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-20 isn't rare, and -35 happens

finite atlas
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i want those temps aswell

clear ferry
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-35 inland is nothing though compared to -12 coast

forest edge
forest edge
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necrophilia's you say?

fallow karma
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Hi

umbral cliff
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Hi

clear ferry
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Hi

fallow karma
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How's it going?

strange crag
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You are all bloody mad! I suspect your brains are frozen! 😉

clear ferry
glacial knot
clear ferry
hushed basalt
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I hear if you ping everyone three times in a row a fuzzy Raccoon will appear in your home

clear ferry
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What about mødz then

clear ferry
jade tartan
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omg, i'd love a little baby coon!

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SO FUCKING CUTE

clear ferry
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Ooof @last cedar

jade tartan
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translate it

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you drew an M tho

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co2 ppm? thats my guess

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@clear ferry

glacial knot
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fuel price

clear ferry
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It's power price

glacial knot
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oh

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snitts, not sprit =.=

orchid rose
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net price I can make out, but not sure what gjennom would have been without context

hoary canyon
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Anyone of y’all ever wonder what stuff in your electrical panel is?

clear ferry
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Was it installed by a jiddish electrician?

last cedar
clear ferry
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I'm glad I don't own three EVs like a customer of mine

last cedar
clear ferry
last cedar
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We were selling you electric today

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We have wind power over

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I absolutely love that we have power over

last cedar
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But can't we have 100% of consumption covered by nuclear and then anything we have more than that can be sold or we cut back on nuclear use?

finite atlas
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nucler is rather slow when changing its output wattage, it cant cover all energy ussage anyway

last cedar
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There must be a record of how much was used each minute yesterday, that should be what they can put out

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Other methods can give them their ability to lag behind demand

tame cove
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Hello

last cedar
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Can I brag about my new raccoon doormat tracking app, that gives all the raccoons the chance to track and steal more doormats?

clear ferry
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You must surely have enough doormats soon

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You should branch out

orchid rose
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addiction smh

finite atlas
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you could start to sell the doormat in another city to not raise suspicion and buy food & shelter for your raccoons and their family

haughty vector
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is anyone using HA cloud? I registered a new account yesterday but I can't login via the RemoteUI (https://account.nabucasa.com). Is there another way I'm supposed to access my NabuCasa cloud instance?

green inlet
haughty vector
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thanks, trying there too

warm hill
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@sour arch hi lol

forest edge
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I had a brief moment to contemplate putting HA on an old laptop... till I realized it was a 32 bit chip and was slower than rpi 3b

clear ferry
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Did you find the laptop in a time capsule from 2004?

forest edge
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I think it may have been 2004/2005 when i bought it lol

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2006 version had a 64 bit t5200 but this turd has the t1350

clear ferry
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I was spot on then

forest edge
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yes you know your turds well.. you do work with H.. well you know

clear ferry
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I have a pretty savant mindset

forest edge
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blew the 8 inches of dust off it and dumped xubuntu on it. gonna use it as shitter laptop at my moms so I don't have to use my phone to mess with stuffs

strange crag
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@forest edge it could be a good batch processor or for monitoring other stuff that doesnt need to be fast! Your imagination is the limit lol

clear ferry
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It is a bogroll

clear ferry
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@last cedar 766øre tomorrow

last cedar
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Helvette

clear ferry
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Voi vittu

orchid rose
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how much is that in real money and is it per kWh?

green inlet
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Looks like 15.5637 USD if the google is working

last cedar
orchid rose
last cedar
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0,89 dollars

clear ferry
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Yes

last cedar
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Per kWh

umbral cliff
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So expensive

last cedar
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That 1 hour

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That is the "price of the government making you green"

orchid rose
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So tomorrow it'll be ~0.4€ while my contract with taxes included is 0.04€. Big F for the company

green inlet
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It’s funny to me that you guys know how much you pay for electricity. To me it is a necessity and I just pay the bill. Of course we try to save where we can but …. I wonder if the cost fluctuates though?

last cedar
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But it doesn't meaan you pay a fluctuating price :)

green inlet
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In the US also?

glacial knot
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Your prices fluctuate by the hour? o.0

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Mine are set for 3 months at a time I think

last cedar
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I pay a fixed price per kWh

clear ferry
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Ours have always been like this

glacial knot
# green inlet In the US also?

If you set up your contract that way
That’s how some people ended up with tens of thousands of electricity bill in Texas last winter

clear ferry
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Lol Texas

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Independent power grid

green inlet
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🤷🏼‍♂️. Every time we have moved, just call the electric company and tell them to turn it on. I am sure I signed something but …. Who would read such nonsense 🤣

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Kinda like software agreements…..you need electricity….

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Makes me curious now….may look into it

clear ferry
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Remember, we don't use gas

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So everything is electric

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Ovens, water heater, the lot

green inlet
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Yea, I have lived in electric only houses

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Same with gas though…..call the gas company and tell them to turn it on.

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I have both natural gas and electric in my current home

orchid rose
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Electricity in general is a lot cheaper here than the US so it's pretty rare circumstances right now

umbral cliff
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I have a annual contract. Price fixed for that period then I can renew at the 12 month period for the price at that point

orchid rose
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When electricity was super cheap last year a lot of people swapped to "market price" contracts meaning they are now paying 10-30x the normal rates

clear ferry
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Our prices are currently 930% above the norm

green inlet
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They are using your electric bill to pay for your free medical 🤣

clear ferry
green inlet
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I just asked the wife…..she said the same thing. 🤷🏼‍♂️, we need electricity, I pay it.

umbral cliff
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Can still save a few cents per kWh

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It adds up

green inlet
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How?

orchid rose
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You don't have free market competition for electricity?

umbral cliff