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I have the money, so not worried about that.
Is the blue a bad choice? Lol
Didnโt even know about that
blue is not a bad choice
Personally I'd go old laptop if you already have it
And yeah, #hardware-archived I suppose. Kind of a gray area tbh
yea if you already have something to run it on you should do that so you get a better feel of what you want to do with it
Just build a beautiful system with a AsRock DeskMini X300
but only a APU
For sure, appreciate the inputs guys
I had my monthly shave before visiting the out-laws. Was fun. Put on some lo-fi and hogged the bathroom for an hour.
Don't have to hate ๐
Shaving this infrequently makes me think I need an open comb razor. Closed comb gets too clogged up.
Shave four threetwo times a week like my wife thinks knows I do
@tidal bronze lol no hate. if suckers want to pass around monopoly money more power to them lol
Lol you would not be saying the same if you had a few.
I'll be saying it up to the day you accept a crayon written check produced by a 4 year old for the sum of ronald mcdonald hugs as payment for your house lol
@forest edge so you one of those sour grapes suckers ?๐คฃ
man sales house for 1 million teletubby bucks to later find out it wasn't worth anything

Now I understand, the bus left you behind long time ago. Lol
It's ok. You can hate if it makes you feel better. @forest edge
if the thought that anyone could create their own currency that could somehow stand on par with the currency your family generations have worked hard to earn makes you feel all warm inside you got issues, or will have issues down the road lol
Churning that ice cream still ?
it's only a matter of time
If you didn't get a few BTC when it was sub 100 I do understand where you coming from. It's ok GTS next time around
noway, suckers are the only reason the market value even goes above 0
You crack me up dude.
if you think about it.. that pretty much speaks to the sheer amount of idiots there are in the world lol
I thought that was a given. Why are you trying to fight it ?
Put your meat on the grill while it's hot. Barn style.
thats your payment for your house in the future
Thank you for putting face to all this glory.
this will replace norwegian currency https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/FnYAAOSwDM9c6T-4/s-l400.jpg
this conversation is killing my holiday mood
Great success!
i do every couple years ...didnt even try this one
@shy comet got it dialed in. With food alerts 20 and 10 from done.
man yall would not make it on a trail ride ....with beans and steak ....over a fire
so when does the conveyor belt that delievers the meat to the grill and the catapult that launches the meat from the grill to your mouth hole arrive?
Moment BTC hits 28k
so soon
Lulz monopoly money
so 28k to every alliexpress $1?
@tidal bronze thats awesome
@forest edge aliexpress or not looking at few properties already. ๐
now the time is to buy in cali.. your covid cases are through the roof lol
Nopes in GA
Lol why would I. Just property
Just bought the blue ๐คทโโ๏ธ
pretty sure you missed the kc train.. we got more than enough of you tree hugging hippies here already
Wouldn't you love to have that quad as your neighbor
no cause the houses you buy are surrounded by giant fences with armed guards patrolling
that's not fun at all
I will let you enjoy them rabbits
What even is this conversation lol
about your late grandpappy
if you call what i dump in the toilet guacamole sure
Hi, i screwed up and removed the default repro for add-on's, what is the link to enter to get this one back: https://github.com/home-assistant/addons ?
@fathom cairn if your talking about the community addons https://addons.community
try https://github.com/hassio-addons/repository also if that don't work you need to ask for further help in #330990055533576204
worked
i screwed up as i wanted to add: https://github.com/ExperienceLovelace/ha-floorplan that one gave the same error
there is an #add-ons-archived channel that can aid with issues
@forest edge great that you are still in a giving mood.
No
no?
That's is not an #add-ons-archived
oh, didn't look at what it was.
its an repro with an addon or it should be
Nope
what does that mean? i'm always in a giving mood. just yesterday I gave @last cedar valuable advice about racoons so she wouldn't have to blow one's head off
That didn't sound right but ok ๐
was kind of nice this year I didn't have to mess with my ha xmas setup once
I only worked on pool and BBQ for 2020. Boring ๐ด
thought you did something in the yard with low voltage cables
That's audio as usual
like run a speaker to the mailbox to make the mail person have to suffer through your poor music taste
Mail person gave 2 xmas cards this time. ๐
2? wtf.. having an affair?
I guess he likes the whiskey and wine.
oh yea thats smart.. give the dude responsible for delivering people's paycheck and other vital time sensitive material alcohol
Lmao.
I don't know the standard for bribes in Norway but here in the US it's called a gift to show that you appreciate a person.
Guess you guys have to bribe your wife's and friends too. Strange.
Even my American standards of business conduct would call that a bribe ๐คทโโ๏ธ ๐ ๐
Forgot, you are that zar of US affairs. My apologies
If your GDP don't make the top 5 or the top 10 it's best you zar countries in your neck of the woods. So no misunderstandings
USPS workers are allowed to accept gifts of $20 or less that can't be converted to cash
I actually give to all regular delivery personnel. They haul your shit all year. It's a small token of appreciation
Really cheap whiskey then? ๐คข
Lol
Lol
And everything can be converted to cash if you have the right contacts.
I gave my carrier a dunkin gift card, he thought it was awesome
If you consider Glenfiddich 14 cheap. Then yes.
Then that wouldn't be under $20 and is a bribe.
Laugh emote if you want. There's a reason businesses (and federal government) have these policies in place.
What you see as a friendly gift could be seen by others as bribery.
It's not that complicated and it shouldn't be.
With your postman, I'd be inclined to agree with you. You're hardly going to get anything other than good service by being friendly with your regular postie.
Yep
But then where do you draw the line? You just gave an expensive gift to a federal employee... can you now do that to all federal employees?
You'll quickly find someone where arguably you could receive special treatment in exchange for those 'gifts'.
Hell... I'm a lowly software engineer in the private sector and I have to agree to strict gift/bribery policies.
Not that anyone loves me enough to gift me anything ๐คฃ
I do get your point. But working with government for a long time in different sectors as a contractor. Unless it's crazy amount of cash a meal or gift is not frowned upon.
Back to my Long Island Ice Tea ๐
was away. was @tidal bronze still going on about giving the mail person a handjob?
Switching hands. Please hold.
finally found something your good at
|| god knows your investment choices in imaginary currency is not something your good at ||
its something to watch
its ok.
i was all excited for tenet . stopped that one about 1/3 through.
tenet seems like it was trying to be like inception but they coulnd't put the story together right.
Thanks guys. Tenet is I don't know what. Audio track was bad ass though.
i have no idea how tenet got 7.6 on imdb. maybe i'm stupid or something.
HBO is supposed to be pushing out 4k releases like crazy soon....their aiming for 30/week in january
wow. i got a 4k tv just in time!
but ww84 streamed 4k using about 10mbps. seems like low quality.
so i guess i shouldn't be wathcing it on hbo
i mean i prefer to keep things local personally but i tend to stick to web-dl's for thigns on other services
thats about as good as ti gets
is a webDL the same as a streaming service? and remux is like bluray?
webdl is meant to be the source file i believe...remux is a one to one copy from bluray
I thought webdl was stream capture
It'd be interesting to watch like a 500GB DCP but I doubt anyone could actually play it
Makes your bluray muxes look like youtube-dl
Plex or kodi?
I doubt either of those could play that
These are cinema codecs
My point though is that Bluray isn't the peak of distribution formats
Yes but, plex or kodi?
Plex will play everything fine. I have huge copies of stuff. Nothing can be transcoded but direct play is Okie dokie
gee thanks Microsoft
a Cortana window that comes up constantly that I can't dismiss
how'd you know that's what I wanted?
I don't get the question, plex or kodi?
I'm completely new to IoT and Home Assistant, I was looking for a brand to buy from where they don't abandon their products and stop updating them after a few years ...
I've seen some nightmare with IoT thing and would not like to get something like this
Anyone can point me towards a company or even build some myself ?
Zigbee devices with non-manufacturer hub solutions are safe
As well as any esp devices you flash yourself
Most other things are fair game
Any of them are open sourced ?
Well... I've been using HA for about 6 years now. and it's finally happening, we're about halfway through a house build that I've built in HA to the very core.
@manic berry meaning what?
@KHAOZ#9969 the devices are manufactured by companies but the software is open source
every product decision, design of the home, and electrical consideration has been planned from the beginning to optimize the tools at my disposal for integration into HA
So you could run them for 1000 years if you wanted to
I'm thinking of dumping proxmox and going bare metal ubuntu for my home server
Or maybe an OS with disposable environments recreated on boot from a pxe server
Then use LXC for lab uses.
I'm just tired of my homeserver vm not being able to access hardware devices properly
Quiet you @clear ferry
Would it make you happier if i used debian
Yes
What if I put debian in an LXC on ubuntu
Then ran a ubuntu container inside the LXC
So you can have an ubuntu sandwich
Although in this analogy the ubuntu is the bread
@deft pewter I am at least partly domesticated. Haven't made a mess on the floor for at least a day
Precisely that
So, conceptual question incoming:
Dad has a i7 8700 (non k) with 16GB RAM running windows 10 pro for blue iris. Plan is to run aitool and deepstack on it.
I then got sent down the docker rabbit hole.
If I ran docker on W10, could I run a docker HA instance for their house?
Should I, or should I go seperate hardware? Perhaps get my dad to slap another 2x8GB sticks in it?
Docker and windows does not mix, especially with things that need host mode
Okay, not a great idea then.
I realise now I should have run esx and had a w10 virtual machine :)
Or somethibg like that
You'd be better off running Linux on it, move to any docker based image processing, like doods
And 16GB is enough by far for a host with that purpose
Or if you prefer blue iris for some reason, run a KVM instance with BI
Problem is that this is back in england, and I can't sort that until I am over there next time.
I do like BI very much :)
Why is docker on windows 10 so bad (bear in mind I have never dockered :P)
Docker on windows is basically linux in a virtual machine
Docker on linux natively allows passthrough of sound devices, or quicksync/nvenc to the containers (useful if running a plex container for example). As far as I know this isn't possible (yet??) on windows
It wouldn't need to passthrough stuff.
The other side of it is though, I don't necessarily need to have HA on the same machine either, so I can probably forgoe docker and just let that do camera stuff
I don't know how much of a problem the known bugs are in reality, but they seem fairly large. Probably better to go a different direction :)
At best it is a half baked solution
YES
It is just awkward because PC is England and I am here in Sweden. And it needs to work. I don't mind breaking my own stuff to play, but if I break it I am not sure he could fix it
This is why you need to install a jumpstation at your folks
And have BMC on servers
๐
Sounds overkill if you are suggesting it... But I will bite.
What is jumpstation :P
Any machine who purpose is just to be a landing station for outside connections to jump into the other network
Without using vpns or site to site links
Quite often seen in academia networks or in industrial IT
I should order one of these
Instead of the usb one
Pfffffffff
It's
minimal
I've had dedicated jump hosts in all my networks for the last 20 years
If I run into problems with teamviewer I might look into it :)
You know, we racoons have limited brain power. I can't do all IT stuff and trash stuff. I HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE
trash panda might be the greatest metaphor for dealing with IT stuff I've ever seen
I prefer trash
@clear ferry Neat, didn't realize they made a PCIe card
Note, dual tpu
I ordered one and a m2-pcie adapter from AliExpress
Let's see how that goes
Should work fine, M-keyed M.2 slots are just PCIe 4x slots
Specs say this only uses 1x, though...
Heh
So that should be fine
Yeah, you can install 1x cards in any-length PCIe slot
Just going to attach some heat sinks and add a fan for good luck
Wait.. ๐
Two PCIe Gen2 x1
I hope it doesn't require bifurcation to see both TPUs...
Atx likes solving problems he creates though :)
what you paid for both of those you could have just got the coral dongle lol
Pssh, usb is for kids
Let's find out!
so is HP so it works puuuurrrrfffect
I don't see a PLX chip on that card, so it may actually try to show up as two independent PCIe 1x devices
If that's the case, the slot will need to support bifurcation, otherwise you'll only see the first device
Also, if you slot it into a PCIe adapter card that's physically 1x, the second TPU's lanes wouldn't be connected at all, and it'd never show up
@clear ferry Mind linking the adapter you went with? ๐
Cheapest I found ๐
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the words cheap and chinese is a very dangerous duo lol
I have the sneaking suspicion that only the first TPU is going to show up...
i doubt it would even make it into a computer to begin with
it's gonna sit on that desk in his garage along with all the other clutter
it will be in his next picture of trying to show us something we all can't spot
Even with only the first one showing up it will get me up and running and is a better solution than the usb one for my needs
And I can research finding another adapter
The m.2 module you linked is E-key, which is supposed to require "two 1x lanes" be wired to the slot. That adapter card only has one 1x lane
I usually only see M-Key and M+B-Key, had to look up wtf E-key was...
by the time he finds an adapter that actually works he could have bought two dongles lol
I'm not actually finding any PCIe adapter cards for E-key that enable both PCIe lanes
Probably because that would require a PLX chip for most motherboards to support (which isn't cheap to add to the adapter)
Most of these adapters are so cheap that they require a connection to a USB header on the motherboard, rather than include a USB controller of their own (E-Key devices sometimes require USB be available on the slot)
|| get the dongle ya goober ||
With the price of the dual one I had no reason to buy a single one though, and I can reuse the dual capabilities down the line probably
Yeah, this dual-TPU card seems like something you buy when you already happen to have a device that has a full-capability E-key slot onboard
Also, thanks for giving me the opportunity to learn about E-key M.2 slots. They're... weird...
That particular type of M.2 slot is supposed to provide USB 2.0, I2C, SDIO, UART, and PCM, in addition to the two PCIe 1x lanes
I like to poke holes in peoples heads
I can see why fully featured adapter cards don't really exist, it basically has to be part of the motherboard
It's what makes my job fun
Too
There is a b+m tpu too
Might end up ordering one of those too
For lulx
That feel when you see "Office of the jury commissioner" on a letter being delivered later that day...
Thanks USPS informed delivery, now I get to know I have Jury Duty even sooner!
Ain't got time for that jibba jabba
I've never actually been selected, I usually disqualify myself pretty quickly ๐
"I have strong opinions about LGBT rights, capitalism, gun control, abortion rights, the death penalty, non-violent drug offenses, the separation of church and state, the prison-industrial complex, and I am fully aware of what Jurry Nullification is"
Usually does the trick...
I've been looking through the Home Assistant site and the info I've found on creating actions and complications for the apple watch isn't helping. Is there another place I can find instructions or maybe examples?
#ios_and_mac-archived people are probably helpful
Why is atx being bullied so much for the piles of electronics in the garage? ๐
Thx
After seeing how much bullying goes on, I don't dare post a pic of my cellar
It is just a store room
I'd post a picture of my Pi collection, but I'm pretty sure ATX would implode, taking Norway with him.
Actually... ๐ค
because it's brand new crap from the 80's he hasn't gotten around to opening. like upgrades
I definitely won't share my garage then ๐คฃ We moved house 3 years ago and kept hold of a lot of old stuff knowing that my sister in-law was looking for a house. 3 years later, she still hasn't bought anything and we've still got a garage full of crap.
Can't open the main door. Can't walk the full length of the garage.
I can just about get the BBQ and lawnmower out in the summer.
I still have an old recliner in ours, that we're going to get rid of ... for about 6 years or so
I don't even want to imagine what's hiding behind it
seamonkeys
Yeah, that's the thing... I'm worried about all the spiders' nests everywhere ๐
Seamonkeys are at least kinda cool. Silverfish... yuck.
Fire, kill it all with fire
Had a rental place years ago where the previous occupant had clearly never cleaned anything. Silverfish all over the place.
We got them under control in a week or so with some thorough cleaning and pesticide. No idea why he didn't bother.
My Gran's house was like that, but more because of the age of the house than anything else
Didn't matter what you did, they'd be back
This was a modern building... no excuse.
There might be racoons living in there
I can excuse a 200 or so year old house ๐
If you want to pay the shipping and packing costs, sure ๐
You found a place now?
2020: The year it finally became possible to play Half Life 2 with no aliasing on the telephone wires...
I see aliasing ๐ฎ
Either side of the second tree from the right looks pretty awful ๐
Top two wires and bottom wire are most noticeable.
It's literally as smooth as it can get, given the display resolution
It's good... but not 'no aliasing'
I mean, to get any less aliasing, you need a monitor with a higher pixel density
So that's on your end ๐
@deft pewter if you include the dog in your avatar, with costume, sure
I have no dog. I'd have to steal one.
I have a cat and the wife would never give it up.
HAha, sure
Then you'll love the wife.
Also, don't forget how those wires look without some Nvidia-specific tricks applied...
Indeed. I'm giving it a run-through with MMOD installed on top of Half-Life 2: Update
And Nvidia DSR enabled, so the game is running at 4x my monitor's native resolution (that's how I'm making it look so smooth) ๐
I should play through the old hl games tbh
If you decide to run Half-Life 2 again, I highly recommend grabbing "Half-Life 2: Update" from the Steam store. It's a free community-made mod, officially endorsed by Valve, that fixes a lot of issues that came up when they moved HL2 to the Episode 2 engine.
Still waiting for hl2:episode 3 ๐ข
Eli finally gets to play Half-Life: Alyx! https://youtu.be/Kz8hEoBaVeY
Eli's HLA reaction video: https://youtu.be/bT7-Ja_lkLc
Little boy is crushed by news that there will be no Half Life 3. (spoilers)
UPDATE: Thanks for the support, everyone. But I would like to state, for the record, that I never intended for this to turn into a Valve/Gaben ...
@subtle pasture ty for the tip :)
for a moment I thought @subtle pasture was showing holiday pictures from a trip to a seaside town in the UK
then I realized it was HL2
Looks too clean to be any of our seaside towns.
trying to find someone who made a 3.5 inch home assistant interface for the nextion display just so I can play with some buttons and see how esphome handles it
but everyone buys 2.4" for some reason
beCauSe iT fiTS iN teH uS swItcHes
wonder if forbidden topic 2020.12 is stable enough for use, considering there is only .1 that means slacking in the holidays or there was little issues
looking at gItHUb I would say no the latter perhaps
Guys, does anybody uses w2812? I have areound 2w power consumption on idle. Any body have idea how to lower it?
are smart microwaves a thing
Yes, not too fancy though.
Oh, he still has me blocked ๐คฃ
Bar code reader to find microwave times and such
@clear ferry you are putting a 3,5 inch screen in a standard wall socket?
He's installing it on his fivehead.
Well it's bigger then a forehead.
Obviously, yeah
Pics please. I need some inspiration!
Chest hair? Sure
That looks like @scenic radish chest
I know for a fact
I've seen it with my own eyes
@green inlet said I looked just as angry as he thought
Do any of you use your HA whilst away from home to just pop in and monitor stuff?
I am thinking that light control, for example, is pretty useless whilst away from home, but checking stuff like temperatures and humidities would be useful
I used light controls over Christmas ๐
To pretend there was someone home during lockdown... ๐คฃ
Well yes, sounds useful to deter criminals etc, but stuff like that should mostly be automatic IMO
I use Telegram to get notified about stuff that I should know about, but also so I can ask HA for an update on things
Even then, mostly last person and last dog
I didn't bother to set up automations since it's for one day of the year.
It wasn't to deter criminals either... it was because technically I was breaking the law by being out of the house ๐คฃ
Our government initially said we could see family 23rd to 27th. Then they said 25th only.
So... we saw family anyway ๐
Same group together for 3 days. No extra risk compared to one day.
But I didn't want nosy neighbours complaining...
One day I need to get around to faking home presence
Not worth the effort at the moment ๐
Details, details ๐
we have a brit here that could use a job
situation...
small rural town 3k people
me and about 6 or 8 folks drinking coffee
brit pops in ....
first all is good
he ask what is being planted now
we kinda look at him crazy .....was 32degrees yesterday
then proceeds to talk against conversatalist
a little later
he is told to float home on teabag
ya he was def in the wrong place at the wrong time ....it was around 0500 hrs at the local bullshit place
Not that welcoming ๐ค
we where tbh
I told him i loved churchill ...yall went south with johnson /williams or what ever his name was after ww2
@clever mortar you were meaning have alarms for certain things, and not have to go in and check manually?
Yeah. I get notifications pushed if a door opens when we're not home, stuff like that
I don't bother with motion sensor activation, because of the dog ๐
It'd be pretty trivial to expand to include too cold/too hot, and other things
Mmm, alarm system can take care of that, I was thinking just like temperatures, etc
Reminds me, need to order some leak sensors
Do you use built in push in HA?
The house is now 90ยบC
almost cozy
built in push?
Yeah, the "built in" push notifications, I use pushbullet at the moment
Telegram
Aha :)
(as mentioned ๐ )
Hi, what would be the best place to ask for recommendations on devices I need?
Probably #hardware-archived ๐
(unless you already know you want only #zigbee-archived or #zwave-archived)
The answer is the same as the last time you came to the #the-water-cooler for support... read the topics ๐ค
I'm sure it was only yesterday too...
Those motion sensors have a pretty long timeout FYI
Something like 2 min 30 sec I believe
Ah gotcha
Aqara has 1 second with a simple trick
Well, I did the hack 6 months ago or so
It is still alive
In the most used room in my house during daytime hours
Here , try this:
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Xiaomi+motion+sensor+hack
thats why you don't ever just blindly follow one guide lol
Well, that's likely down to power draw
I'd bet that the Home Assistant OS package draws more power than just an OS ๐
Well, the problem is "3A" may be something other than 3A
A lot of the USB "power supplies" require negotiation of a non-standard protocol
Always always always use the official pi adapter's
Is the rpi doing active USB power negotiation at all? I thought it just was hardwired to the V+ and it blindly assumes sufficient current from the PSU
But many power supplies only send 0.5A or 1A unless otherwise negotiated
Yes, 0.5A, that's the standard, and then there is "negotiation" through pull up values if beyond that
I just glanced at the rpi schematics on the micro USB variants. They have no connection to the data pins on the power input, just V+ and GND, so there is no negotation on this. You have to supply a PSU that delivers what the rpi needs, otherwise you risk brownout
rpi4 uses USB-C, so that's a different ball game with the PD negotation. The good thing here is that the rpi can know if it has an inferior supply connected.
Now I just need a sensibly priced mult-port USB-C power supply and I can upgrade my Pi farm
There's a multi-port power supply with 200 outputs? ๐ฎ
Tinkerer runs the UK's infrastructure off it. You can tell... it's pretty shit.
I only have them to wind up ATX, but it's worth it ๐
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I can understand buying a couple to annoy him. Buying 200 was some dedication.
Sure, but now I have almost as much processing capacity as my laptop does, in a nice compact space heater format
If I get enough Pi4's I'll be able to keep my drive clear of snow...
or mine some coins
Mmmm monopoly money
is there a place I can cry about how much I hate LIFX lights?
Darn. I had been using binfmt and docker to create a rpi container that could build binaries for running on the rpi. But it doesn't work no more for the older rpis, because for some unknown reason (qemu?) set the arch to armv7l, while the older needs armv6l.
Use buildx instead
Not sure if that will help, buildx is also using qemu
Sure, but just define linux/arm/v6 as the platform
Thanks. Interesting. I didn't know you could specify sub arch like this. I checked out the buildx sources to see how they do it, and then I see that the arm/v6 is armel, which I not what I want I think. rpi runs on the same image on newer rpis as well as old, and this is armhf, so I think I do want armhf. Binaries remain the same. My reason for this is that python wheels contains the arch, so it'll refuse to install armv7l wheels on older rpis, where it expects armv6l
arm is a shitshow
Actually this one think is on python ๐ Because everything ABI-wise is armhf
It's great in usage, but deside on 1 type... (Or 2 if you need to differ 32/64), thanks.
If any comfort to it, its getting better. Much better. Now that we are getting more and more binary distros (and docker images) the chip vendors have an incentive to keep the custom arm core customizations to a minimum. 10 years ago it was a mess because there were far too little mainstream traction on arm yet. Every SoC did it their own way and little was binary compatible.
But yeah, there several rants from Linus on the virtues of the ARM eco-system and Linux ๐
Linus? Ranting? Nevah!
Nope, just enthusiastic discussions
I've been considering moving from an older HP Procurve Server to a Pi4 w/ ESXi. My only concern is storage, I don't like the idea of relying on SD cards or flash drives so I would have to see what the best way to add at least 2 SSDs in Raid 1 would be. I have a stack of sata SSDs sitting in the corner unused. Haven't even looked into it yet but I assume I can connect those up one way or another, USB if I have to.
That aside, I would like some real world use feedback on how well ESXi itself runs on the Pi. Other than Veeam, which I could honestly just do without entirely as its a bit overkill for my needs, I could easily run everything I need on 1 Pi4.
With the other option being Raspbian and a bunch of docker containers which wouldn't be terrible either. I'm just accustomed to working with ESXi hosts all day for work that it's nice to mirror that at home.
There are a few commercial PI nas enclosures specifically for doing what you want. one had two bays and another i think had 4
Thanks, that performance level would be more than adequate for anything I would be doing.
the cost justifcation comes with if you don't have a case. the prebuilt takes care of all the needed power requirements while wrapping it in a small package along with the ability to power off and reset the pi from a physical switch
Or just get a SFF computer :)
You can probably get a 4th gen i5-i7 with ssd, power supply, case, 8gb+ ram ready to go drive away no more to pay for $100-$150USD
the pi route is much cheaper
I dunno what enclosures your looking at but i've seen complete kits for under 100
look harder is my only suggestion lol
I have a QNAP NAS already and an HP ProCurve for all my various projects. The idea here is to reduce footprint and power consumption as none of what I am running really needs to be on true server hardware. I'm onboard with @forest edge here.
After some actual investigation into ESXi-Arm, I'm realizing that I might as well keep it on the Proliant server (I've been calling it ProCurve but that's the HP switch line) as I use it as a testbed for a lot of Windows based stuff so the Proliant has to stay regardless.
Just one of those things you hear about and think, "oh that's neat, let me find a reason to use that" until you spend 10 minutes actually thinking about it
Tbh, a NUC loaded with RAM and a NVME makes aa great ESX server, that you can actually run stuff on.
Obviously it is a bigger investment than a pi though.
Interested to see what these new apple m1 systems can do with regards to virtual machines.
It is only a matter of time before there is an esx for the new mac mini
There any good options for dual NICs on the NUC yet?
That's the one thing that keeps me from recommending them for heavier virtualization workloads
Dual 2.5G NICs... better, but I was hoping to see 10G
If you wanted to do a traditional HA cluster (3 compute nodes and 2 storage nodes) you really need some bandwidth for the compute nodes to communicate with the shared storage
Or if you want to run converged storage (chuck an NVMe drive in every NUC and run vSAN) you need gobs of bandwidth to keep the network RAID performing well
3 NUCs in a cluster is the bare minimum you need to provide HA. lol
But networking is always an issue, because its been hard to get more than the built-in 1gbps NIC working
HA to run HA?
2x 2.5gbps NICs makes it a lot more feasible, at least
Everything is relative, of course :)
I am hoping that these amd nucs get more traction, and dare to push the network side of things
i dunno what to tell you, maybe your google fu is the issue thus why you had issues with following a guide for booting from ssd with the rpi. hell you can even buy an odroid-hc4 two bay for under 100 bucks. you don't need an rpi4 8gb either so you can cut the cost of that part in half right off the bat
hush you who knows nothing about real power
what is that crap you have where it's strange glowing orb lights that many think is UFO's?
can't remember the name and even if i could i wouldn't be able to spell it
not the northern lights either.. it's something some part of norway sees alot
is that you don't know?
We don't see a lot of UFOs here because we vaccinate our radicals
So no idea
Probably my huge ass
ugh now i gotta look it up
so much for being our resident norwat
called the Hessdalen phenomenon
Never heard of
Something strange is lighting up Norway's Hessdalen valley. In the 1980s hundreds of UFOlogists flocked to the area. Now a more scientific approach is unlocking the secrets and opening up the possibility of storing energy in a radical way.
its a common occurrence happening even now
i would be confused how the hell you have never heard of it but then you bastards don't even talk to one another so bleh
We don't indulge much in conspiracy theories or fake tourism here, so probably why
well considering it's an actual event that transpires regardless of what anyone thinks it is...
good thing your not on top of a volcano, wouldn't want to hear ya call out fake news of a eruption even while your house begin to melt

Trying to fix something on my sisters router
wow consumer routers are hot garbage
You can only have 16 clients on each SSID
Yeah it's NetComm
ie the company owned by the chairman of our 60 billion dollar national broadband rollout
guess which company got contracts for hardware
And now the web ui has crashed
Atleast you Aussies aren't legally bound to run on the ISP router or else face criminal charges on your capped at 200GB per month 1000mbit connection like some muricans
Right?
Some ISP in Aus wont let you connect to them with out buying their shit box router. They tried that on me, I told them to shove their shitty connection and just chose another of the seemingly endless ISPs we have here, worked out ๐
Not running any ISP equipment here 
But you live in eurofornia California
SURFboard SB8200 modem + custom pfSense router + Aruba IAP324 access points
Yeah, they said to me
ISP: "You have to use our equipment"
Me: "Why?"
ISP: "Because we wont support you if you dont"
Me: "What do you mean support exactly?"
ISP: "We wont support you"
Me: "Ok, good bye then"
Called other ISP:
Other ISP: "Yeah we support anything, just set WAN to DHCP"
Me: "Shut up and take my money"
Last time we had a Comcast tech out, dude was impressed. lol
Modems ๐คข
Pons๐
I haven't had a tech in my house since... 2000
No wait ,the guy who connected the fiber was inside my garage in 2012
Storm damage knocked out our connection. Tech tested our line for all of 30 seconds, then went out the door and down the street to check a utility box where (presumably) our coax terminated
Coax ๐คข
Got a better way to bring in 1.2 gbps when there are zero fiber providers in the area?
That's your WAN? My LAN switch ports aren't even that fast.
Yeah, the modem has dual 1gbps ethernet ports to provider > 1gbps of throughput
The "WAN port" on my pfSense router is actually two ports in an LACP team. lol
Here is me with my 50mbps WAN on my knock off AliExpress PFSense machine ๐
I use a second 2-port LACP team to connect the router to my core switch, which then allows for 1200 mbps aggregate over WAN
It's... rather difficult to actually speedtest that, though. I'd basically need get a machine with dual gigabit ethernet (with teaming support) and connect it directly to the core switch, then run speedtest.net and see what happens ๐คทโโ๏ธ
My NAS and VM/Container box have LACP to my switch but there is no point to the PFSense since the WAN is the bottleneck heh
But it is nice to know that I can absolutely hammer the internet connection (pulling a full 1000 mbps) from one computer, and still have 200 mbps of headroom for other things.
Also, if anyone knows of a cable modem with a SFP+ port (or 10GBaseT port), I'd be interested. It'd greatly simplify the whole setup ๐
Hah, ok, so Netgear is prepared... Their consumer routers now feature SFP+ ports on the high-end for 10gbps WAN support...
https://www.netgear.com/home/online-gaming/routers/xr700
Now we just need... a modem with a SFP+ interface...
Any media player suggestions for RPI zero which is also controllable with Home Assistant? I am currently using Volumio, but I want to try out Moode also?
Lol straya
STRAYA
why does home assistant and all the related projects use that dumb CoC everywhere?
Dumb?
If you don't feel like complying, just let me know @midnight adder and I'll ban you to save you worrying ๐
as if that would change anything lol... I have 20 accounts in this server alone here, already warmed up. this is what you get for not owning your own infrastructure lol
i'm not answering if I comply, i plead fifth as they say in america
i chat on and ahead of time I'm a veteran, i barely read what other people read I just type type type
Yeah... I feel multiple swings of the banhammer coming up, especially if someone thinks they're above the rules.
in that case I will start a scandal, i'm officially mentally ill with hardcore papers and everything better follow your own coc and be more supportive
i can provide PROOF
There's better Discords for that
are there? you can always tell me
my attention might get lost in that case so you dpn't have to deal with me
I can, but it doesn't mean I will ๐
schizoid assistant
https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/ @obsidian ibex
Please read that, and remove your post
You don't want to comply?
Ran out of t's again ๐
I've been reverse "engineering" some Oracle SQL packages for a few weeks now
it's a pretty good exercise in examining all of the shit tacked on to code over a decade and what happens when there's nothing that explains any of the additions
So, like any code then
Are there any good places within the community for buying/trading devices? I'm sure lots of people try different things, buy houses and have leftover stuff they don't need, etc. I'm a cheap bastard so if someone has some stuff they used for a year and now its just sitting on a shelf, I'd like to come in and make an insultingly low offer for that stuff.
Don't know how many are like me, that never sell anything , ever
I might need it later

You could try the forum
ya i get that, which is why i have a corner filled up with crap like old 10/100 switches and shit that i will never have a practical use for but just in case
Is home assistant owned by Ubiquiti?
No
they just funded part of it right?
๐
There was some thing between balloob and ubiquiti like 3 years ago, no clue what but it's nothing now
Yeah... all I can find is this old blog post: https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2018/04/12/ubiquiti-and-home-assistant/
Just meant that he could pay his mortgage and still do what he loves.
Not sure if this is the right place, but I'm thinking of picking up a UPS device for a few power sensitive items in my home and was wondering if there were any out there that play well with HA for monitoring, alerting, etc
There's a couple of #integrations-archived for UPS units
|| apc2mqtt ||
I'll do some research then... thanks
make sure you don't cheap out, get a pure sine version
Now, it would be great if the police would be harder in enforcing the quarantine follow ups here
With the $2200 fines per person
That would be nice
thats rather high ....poor folks may not be able to afford to eat after that
Then they should've quarantined
well yes of course ...but people should not speed....do drugs and etc.....penalties are determent
plus, they should be eating cake
Well... let them.
i wished i could quarantine ...but i cant and dont have a choice
Speaking with my social democrat hat on, if anyone is forced to choose between starving and observing quarantine, then it is society's failure to protect itself that is to blame.
damn then i am doing it wrong.... i bought enough food for three months..... generator in case of no power ....to feed my family
Well, if you were in a position to do that, then society worked, hurray
me working reg time and overtime did
no not with my job....did a few a week here and there because of exposure and etc
I won't pry :)
My main point is that we are pretty much all in the same boat, in regard to the pandemic.
So if you have people that would have been in quarantine if they weren't living from hand to mouth, running around as spreaders, then it's on all of us.
and a danger to all of us
I'm not proposing to repeal capitalism or anything.
This isn't a fun topic, I'll wait for someone to change it.
So how about those <local sports team>? Did you see them score all those <goals|points|baskets|touchdowns>?
Oh yes, I caught that ludicrous display the other day ๐
@dull chasm didn't think humans could catch covid from crocs?
of course they can if someone with COVID handles their crocs and then someone without also handles them and touches their face/eyes
but you gotta question someone who wears crocs in the first place
we dont have crocs @forest edge you yankee
well i am sure there is no shortage of croc manhandling down there
fine alligators lol
well thats better
Fitbit watch? Thanks, I go analog with my watches. Maybe some day I'll come around to it, just don't see much use and I also don't need a watch to tell me I'm not getting enough exercise. My enlarged belly reminds me of that every day.
no, ZWave bridge
oh, lol... I'm good there too. Thanks for the offer though
That sounds like a great idea
๐
I mean, I grew up on Star Trek TNG, so obviously I am groomed to believe in post-scarcity socialist utopias.
With warp engines and food replicators for all
Post-Burn would be quite different though.
Yes, well all empires must fall
we don't evolve we go extinct
Well, that's one explanation of the Fermi Paradox
That the reason we haven't been visited by any aliens is that they all go extinct/blow themselves up before they can develop interstellar travel
I reckon they saw promising signs of a developing civilisation and set out to meet us. Then, as they got closer, they got the more recent broadcasts, decided we're all retarded and turned around back home.
Funny thing is that anyone who came here, spending all the resources that would be required, would probably be here for the lulz.
Or the Kapla
i heard they been anal probing norwats for decades
How many anal probes would they really need though
lol my boss thinks I'm, working super hard cause I've been chatting here instead of the coworker chat today
keeping busy is keeping busy
Only a week till I will be more active on discord start at work again
cuz thats not terrifying or anything
what is the correct channel for esphome ?
ESPHome is a system to control your ESP8266/ESP32, with a native integration for Home Assistant.
You can find their documentation here, and get help with ESPHome itself here in the #diy-archived channel (#integrations-archived for the integration). They also have their own Discord server too.
โ๏ธ Their Discord is the first place to try
hehe
i see that @celest hill was there too but found that it was a "ghost server"
that's odd Hampton Bay is actually a pretty decent fan brand
most if not all of mine in this house are that lol
Most of mine are HB as well, none of that model though
Same. Hampton Bay fans are the reason I have a Bond Hub in the house >_>
Only thing that supports their weird remote frequencies
I got their zigbee module for a few, which is not very reliable
wow those suckers got plastic clips that hold them into the fan housing lol
Yup, I bought, installed, fought with, and returned the Zigbee module for 3 fans
Having the Hampton Bay zigbee modules in the mesh caused issues with everything
haha, yeah. it is a ongoing battle
I'm not even familiar with that one
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Supports cloning pretty much anything that's IR or RF
As long as it doesn't use rolling codes (though they say they're working on supporting those as well)
Gotcha, so no state detection, just control
I'm using it to clone the weird 304 MHz remotes that Hampton Bay uses
Correct, though you can have it track state
Sure
So as long as you don't mess with the official remotes again, it stays in-sync with the state of the fans
I have those things hidden away. If I use them, the zigbee module gets all wonky
the broadlink rm4 can do those frequencies, i know too late just saying
Yep, I have quite a few rm4s around the house. Love the little suckers
Nope, the Broadlink doesn't go that low...
I had a socket that was like 301mhz or some weird ass crap
worked for me
Weird, yeah, I haven't tried for the fans
The lowest it (the Broadlink device) officially supports is 315 MHz, as far as I can tell
The zigbee module tends to just drop off the mesh after about 7 days of uptime, so I just flip the source power every Sunday as my current workaround
big box rf sockets are all over the place. wish the US had stricter guidlines on what bands can be used
well it's 315/433 but they can detect outside of that band
I have a socket that 301, 314 and 319 lol
Yeah, dunno what to tell you, it didn't see these Hampton Bay remotes at all
Bond Bridge picked them up immediately ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Hello, I am new to DISCORD. Have a question and wondering if this is the proper place for it?
just wish the rm4 could receive and not just transmit
damn thing picked up every temp sensor i have but can't do anything with it lol
Bond Bridge has the same issue, which is a shame
Bond is a great product ๐ nothing comes close to controlling shades and fans.
if it's over priced quad is all over it
Shits works. Not into tinkering anymore.
hmmm $20 for a small bottled water or free tap water..
let me just get out my fake btc dough and away we go!
Your bad juju keeps crushing it last 24 hours. ๐
your playdough losing value?
Hmm as I mentioned earlier anything above $100 is a plus for me. Just lurrrve my playdough
sounds like your losing suckers to boost it's value lol
Lol it's just there. Honestly don't keep a track of it unless GTS is around.
Another gloomy cold night/day up north I guess.
That smells like a support question.
Start in #general-archived if you're not sure where to go, @sinful wigeon
Hmmm, sure do!
Is this this beginnings of a Discord marriage?
Or maybe even an awkward lane change in the middle or an already blossoming relationship?
Or just a random discord post with nothing to do with any of the other raccoons in this channel?
Cause, there is really only one true, awesome raccoon in this channel.
whats it feel like to come into the channel and make things so weird and uneasy everyone stops talking @green inlet ?
I love how well Home Assistant manages the whole Docker situation, with the whole add-ons thing. But it feels a bit silly to install Home Assistant just to manage a bunch of containers. Are there any similar systems out there that operate a supervisor-type-thing that makes installing and configuring containers a 'tried and tested' affair?
Why is there no way to access home assistant crash reports? Hassio is in a boot loop for me and I cannot figure out why because the logs are overwritten after EVERY RESTART
@last dirge I'd be horribly off-topic there ๐
Yes tell me i'm in the wrong place and then don't help me when I am in the right place smh
doesn't seem you've asked there
don't know what channel to go to, but i bought the home assistant blue and it doesn't turn on, is that just something i deal with the manufacter on, or am i just stupid to not figure out that you have to do more than just plug it in
IOTstack seems an alternative
@rare gate lots of blue questions in #330990055533576204
Thank you @last dirge
@molten osprey most of us are control freaks and would never want a supervisor ;-)
Yeah I really didnโt mean a supervisor but more a โclick this button to install, itโs tried and testedโ ... Iโm too lazy to figure out which ports and volumes need mapping ๐
Yeah, I avoid "automatic" stuff both personal and professional
Because people assume too much
Oh nice, there is a Shelly 1L now
@clear ferry now that christmas is over don't you have to go back to normal job as a angry elf on bathroom detail?
It's about 34 degrees here too, quite pleasant
34ยฐF that is ๐
Yeah, we've got snow, and it's currently just warm enough to melt, but it'll drop again soon and cause more fun for idiot drivers
I was out in it earlier, watching others fail to drive safely. It was ... interesting
@forest edge , I guess raccoon hugs are typical in your neck of the woods?
Welp... apparently DNA data shall be transfered between UK and EU securely with SHA-1 encryption using Netscape NavigatorCommunicator.
Well, could be worse, could be ROT13
And now I want roti
mmmm, ghee
If you know traditional Indian cooking ingredients... have you tried mitthai?
If I hadn't already pigged out over Christmas, I'd be tempted to go grab a box.
sweets?
yeah, used to work with a bunch of Indian folks that'd bring in sweets occasionally
I love the variety. People look at you funny when you say they're made with spices ๐คฃ
People forget that cinnamon and nutmeg are spices too...
I think the best ones I've had were from a shop in London. I've forgotten the name now but apparently they're quite well known.
Ah... Ambala: http://www.ambalafoods.com/
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That's because you can literally see somebody coming for miles ๐
and they consider us bad because we are armed
a man not far from me has two anti aircraft guns in yard ....they dont work of course
most of us live at least 1k ft off a road
@clever mortar you old fart ...maybe one day i can afford to bring you over and go to a friends ranch that is close 100,000 acres .....we can fish in the stream and cook steaks the right way ....and beans of course
baklava SO good! My wife is part czech and makes them quite often
did she have family near quakes @granite hare
I don't think she knows of any family still in the region
oh ok
@dull chasm I want to find a place like that :) (the 1000 feet bit)
plenty where i live
100000 acres sounds like a lot of lawn to mow ๐
I've said it before (maybe in here as well) but there is likely going to be a large influx of people going rural once Starlink is a viable product
thats a ranch ...not a yard
A ranch is just a big yard :P
no no .....
Would be fine with 5000m2 for what I want to do :)
I would love some acreage for a cabin, someday...someday...
How about 3000m2 back yard in the city? (Family, not me)
I thought you metric types used hectares for land measurement
Hectares? What ancient measure is this?
๐ took me 2 tries, but my kitchen plumbing is back online! cast iron waste pipe corroded right at the hub connection which was located in the basement above cinder block and wedge between joists. rough location to work in and the leak was draining right on to my breaker box. so glad it is fixed ๐
Could've been worse... bathroom waste pipes... ๐คข

The last time I did plumbing in the bathroom it was on the 'clean' end and I still felt disgusting afterwards.
It's amazing how much grime gets into all the concealed spaces.
@deft pewter hectare is 10,000 m2
Ah. Well that'll be why none of us use it to describe our back yards...
I'm sure estate owners measure theirs in hectares. Us commoners don't know what a hectare is ๐คฃ
Hey All
well we measure in acres not sqft
Does anybody know where in the RPI directory structure the Lovelace conf files are?
You'll want to ask over in #frontend-archived
#the-water-cooler is for shitposting.
see now he can say my shit is not working and i need to fix my shit
Stop talking shit.
well its the proper place for shitposting
The UK-EU trade deal will bring us the latest tech standards, like Netscape ๐คฆโโ๏ธhttps://twitter.com/billatnapier/status/1342877839008411648?s=21
Is there a place where people show off their setups for inspiration? Either here or on the forums? Can't seem to find one
forums would be better, it'd probably just get buried here
Yeah, seems there isn't really a section for that though at the moment. Maybe the subreddit is the closest thing to it
There's a Lovelace section with plenty of people showing off their dashboards...
Yeah, I'd argue that most of the posts I've had a look at in those boards are people posting cards, themes, etc. that they have created themselves from scratch or based off another project. Not simply a dashboard they have put together with other people's creations
Either would work, but reddit is another option like you mentioned
Yep
Is operation via the web interface typical? Personally, once I got devices, scenes, and buttons wired the way that makes the most sense for us, I don't really use it. If things act up once in a blue moon I give the server a swift kick.
Some people like a "smart home" where HA is a pretty remote. Some of us like home automation ๐
I typically only use the web interface for setting the volume on my receiver and looking at my CCTV cams
don't really have much automated
People ๐คข
I yell at that no good Alexa to do stuff
don't really have much that'd let me automate stuff, should probably start switching out switches for ones with motion detecting
yes
Ah, Brian's a Disney fan too ๐คฃ
he was in the first one too
Nerd
Uhuuu family
You sound angry.
I try
That's a scene from the first movie when he's introduced ๐
I knew it. He's the #1 Disney fan.
I quite like the media setup I ended up with: I use an IKEA "remote" device (the puck with four directional buttons and a central one) to control chromecast, TV, and receiver.
Next we'll hear him blame it on the kids or something. We all know he watches it for himself.
I do, but .... I've watched more Disney than them ๐
@tepid roost I pretty much only use my Shield TV remote
Heck, I've probably watched more Disney than everybody else in the house put together
No chance of using it to adjust receiver volume?
it can adjust volume of some stuff
Noice. What boards are they?
ones he made
Ah, custom stuff?
Dig Uno?
atx can't do that. He just 3D prints dildos.
it's just an ESP on a board with a switchmode supply
Reckon you can get the board to sync your music to match your lights?
takes 5V or 12V in and can control 5V or 12V LED strips
@deft pewter E1.31 is what you want
why do you say he didn't make them?
That's the protocol, right? Pass. I'm not interested in making a disco.
Market for used discos is probably quite good these days, no? ๐
I designed a shield for a wemos to do WLED stuff but never got around to fabbing them
he bugged me for the schematics and improved on them and then decided to ditch the wemos and just do raw ESP stuff
Because Adrian Faasen designed and made them afaik
says he designed it on his page
That Dig-Uno looks okay. Might've been tempted if it didn't mean international shipping.
he told me he designed it, so I'd guess he designed it
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probably would've ended up making a shitload of the wemos shields except my stuff didn't work ๐
womp womp
Disney is legit ๐ค
It's called the quinled dig Uno, and the info page leads here
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@last dirge If curious, this is my mapping:
C: Play/Pause
C-hold: Media scene / TV off
N: Receiver volume up (+.5 repeat 10)
N-hold: Receiver Chromecast input, default volume
S: Receiver volume down (-.5 repeat 10)
S-hold: Receiver aux input, default volume
W: Chromecast rewind 15 sec
E: Chromecast forward 15 sec
@tepid roost what's that for?
@clear ferry https://drzzs.com/shop/pixel-pro/
My mapping on this thing: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/images/products/tradfri-remote-control__0609380_PE684491_S5.JPG?f=xs
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