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[vale zinc]

ok i believe this more,

[craggy fable]

Gameplay feels the same

[prisma vault]

the AI is john wick and the CS gas is messed up for one

[vale zinc]

so porting to console had some affects on pc, intended / unintended and thus people are mad

[prisma vault]

pretty much

[vale zinc]

did they fuck with graphics too? my ready or not does not show up in my Nividea panel and some of the levels felt kinda less in quality as they used to be? if u know what i mean

[wicked charm]

TOC I don’t care if that meth addict hasn’t seen me yet. They are holding a knife and moved I shot.

[vale zinc]

Civilian holds id, moves and rightfully gets shot. fuck around find out

[prisma vault]

yeah they were unintentionally messed up with the update

[wicked charm]

I’m confused now 😂

Why would you try to draw your phone in front of a damn SWAT dude with a gun aimed at you?!

[languid creek]

So you can get a video for instagram clout duh obviously worth it

[wicked charm]

Express Ticket To Death For More Trigger Happy Officers.

[desert garnet]

I did lethal obession so many tiems game put it as my favourite mission LOL

[craggy fable]

Instagram story

[desert garnet]

Yea lile me i love blowing heads off

Im doing lethal obession again wohoo

[wicked charm]

Oh god…here comes the shit show

[languid creek]

Same I love it just a quick lil mission feels like clean house from modern warfare kind of.

[wicked charm]

There’s two types of players.

[languid creek]

Hawaiian shirt professional and cop uniform role player

[wicked charm]

Those looking for the excuse to shoot. Those looking for every excuse not to shoot.

[languid creek]

3 types if you count the dudes wearing full multicam

[wicked charm]

Does Judge have kids?

[desert garnet]

I hage that mission

I wish i could bomb gerard

[desert garnet]

Naaah

[wicked charm]

Every thing went smoothly?

[trim elbow]

Do any of you have that one friend who thinks it’s funny to shoot civilians and apprehended suspects?

[hazy carbon]

well the spetsnaz kill both hostage and suspect to discourage suspect from taking hostage

[wicked charm]

…. They have gone rogue. You have execute authority

[hazy carbon]

it's tough, but fair...

[desert garnet]

We got 1 shoted from a wall

Im with a friend tryna do it

If u do jt multiplayer does it count to your like carrerr commander mode

[wicked charm]

No

But you keep unlocks in terms of customization

[desert garnet]

I want to do bad things to gerard.

[frozen ivy]

are they ever going to fix flashbangs not working

like I just lost an S bc of that shit

[desert island]

The downside of wielding such power is u risk ur S rank for using it

probably an unintended flaw, but the only thing keeping the m32flash from being an SSS+ tier weapon

[uncut widget]

Did taser get nerfed by range? Cause even 3-4 meters don’t reach

[frail socket]

Mine work fine

[frozen ivy]

Wow must not have any issue whatsoever then.
I stg this entire server is rage bait. It's a well documented issue that they just do nothing sometimes.

Also happened with gas but I think that's new since 1.0, first time I've seen that.

[buoyant pecan]

I’ll giggity Lois

[languid creek]

Flashbangs have always done me well

can’t bring enough of them

[buoyant pecan]

Gas grenades used to be my go-to but now they don’t work lol

[desert garnet]

Ok no more ron for me lethal obession make me mad

[twilit torrent]

why is it making you mad

[ionic gale]

The mission isn’t too difficult. The only thing that is a pain in the ass is the skittish suspects and the traps.

[pallid anchor]

i did the iron man challenge on standard no mods and i just finished all the missions and i haven't got the achievements or the watch, is there a fix?

[winter orbit]

Any of your officers resign?

[copper knoll]

You can peek the doors to disarm the traps

[ionic gale]

Yeah that’s what you’re supposed to do

I almost exclusively use the mirror gun only so I have a bit of bias, but it’s not too hard to disarm traps

[twilit torrent]

idk what to tell you bro, just go slow and use a lot of flashbangs

[copper knoll]

Haha yeah I think all of the other items are wayyyy too situational

[winter orbit]

Mirror or M320 Flash
Everything else isn't worth the loss of the other two imho

[copper knoll]

Flash is pretty fun

[winter orbit]

The extra range is useful
Neon Tomb is helped by the M320

[sonic scaffold]

M320 on neon tomb is easy mode

only problem is friendly fire 🫩

[winter orbit]

I mean Neon is already an easy map so i don't really see how using the flash launcher changes it too much

[jolly verge]

Pretty sure it's still 20m

[sour falcon]

anyone know a good S tier loadout. i did hide and seek A+ with one i think worked but one of my officers died because i wasnt able to help him after i just ran out of ammo

[fair dove]

might be another thing they broke with the recent update, check the bug fix or known issues channel here

[frank merlin]

Man, wouldn't it be cool if a future DLC was set during or in the immediate aftermath of a wildfire? Kind of like that Jake Gylenhal 911 movie, where the disaster is just a backdrop.

[frank belfry]

Guys which DLC should i buy, i want some house clearing, so i think i should take home invasion, what yall think? And is there perhaps a NVG type mission like in COD2019?

[half thorn]

Anyone in here completed sleeper agent achievement and thought it was a headache

[sonic light]

idk how to do it tbh

[half thorn]

Run the non lethal AR and remove all ammunition on secondary. I also run light armour for more mags

[sonic light]

do you have the sleeper agent achievment?

[half thorn]

15 kills or 15 arrests each one has to be done in 15secs yeah I finished it last night only 0.02 percent have done it on Xbox apparently

[sonic light]

is there a chance that u help me? haha

[jolly verge]

M32A1 + M320 flash with 2 pacifiers and 2 negotiators, 50% surrender chance on stun and compliance shout

[half thorn]

What servers do you play on I did it with a bunch of other Aussies from LFG

[sonic light]

wym servers

[half thorn]

Like where are you from because ping is an issue on this game, a tip if you have mates that play go non lethal and arrest them all at the end make sure you close all gun boxes and remove there guns off there hip by canceling the arrest.

[sonic light]

im from germany, thats a great tip thanks

[half thorn]

We tried doing lethal it didn’t seem to work even though we felt like we got 15 kills without missing the 15secs each one so we just did non lethal instead and eventually got it. It is annoying to do but if you have a dedicated group it’s easy

[sonic light]

well

i dont have a group

[half thorn]

LFG is your best bet 300+ping is shocking for me

[sonic light]

Okay, do you think i can make it alone?

[lavish trellis]

For armor front/back or full coverage? Any cons for full coverage?

[keen spindle]

On hard mode is there traps in mission that's didn't have it before cus I swear I'm seeing more traps now

[lavish trellis]

Does the suppressor reduce damage?

[uncut widget]

Elephant has

[keen spindle]

Oh alr

[trim elbow]

I quite enjoyed home invasion

[sleek reef]

Will they eventually add Swat AI to coop?

[jolly verge]

11 slots vs 13 + 5% or 18% acceleration penalty for ceramic/steel

[jolly verge]

Nope

[uncut widget]

like 50 officers on mission?

[lavish trellis]

Me and my buddy had trouble playing that hospital mission. We made a public game and it was really fun playing with 3 random dudes.

[uncut widget]

1 player = 5 bots

[lavish trellis]

Rainbow six vegas 2 we could play story with 2 ai and another player. That was nice.

[fair dove]

bro can they release the patches already

[spring idol]

Hey, if I buy the standard edition and I want to upgrade to the deluxe edition, it should be $20, correct? Since the standard is 50 and the deluxe is 70.

[acoustic prism]

That’s a good game that is.

[eager eagle]

Yo yall got any tips for elephant?

[bold steppe]

If you're on PC there's a mod for that.

[inland needle]

Does Doc do anything other than audibly judge me from the back of the room?

[inland needle]

What level number is Elephant? I think im almost there, im at the data center

[lament tartan]

How does this game know to put a guy in the random ass spot I eventually stop checking because a guy never spawns there. Every time

[eager eagle]

It’s after valley of the dolls, elephant is number 11

[inland needle]

Ty!

[lament tartan]

Never breach a door. Only ever lockpick. Flash’s seem to be okay. Any loud gunfights or explosions and the other shooters get jumpy and start taking/killing hostages

[eager eagle]

So try to arrest as many as possible and don’t try to KOS?

[lament tartan]

That’s what I did. It was my first S that I got without really trying

[eager eagle]

Also do the bombs spawn in the same place every time?

[lament tartan]

But yes. The more agressive you are the more aggressive they get I found.

[lament tartan]

No there’s about 6 different spots iirc

[lament tartan]

Something I found quite funny is they are actually quite cowardly if you play it cool. Nearly all of them insta surrender to a flash provided they aren’t already jumpy as fuck. Breaching doors with shotty’s/c2/ram all seems to spook them enough to have them shoot back

[eager eagle]

What if I used a silenced gun? Do they still hear it?

[lament tartan]

Is that modded? I’d imagine so yes. Using beanbag/pepperballs doesn’t seem to spook them

[eager eagle]

So I need to be as non lethal as possible

[jolly verge]

Yes, gun hearing range is always 20m regardless of suppressors, only taser makes no noise

[civic tulip]

Hey hey! I saw wendigoons video on it and I really wanna play it! I don’t have a PC but I have a Xbox series x and a PlayStation 5 which one would you suggest I get it on?

[frozen ivy]

This game doing the Payday 2 speedrun.
Wonder if we'll get a community patch mod ala Skyrim

[eager eagle]

There’s not much of a difference between consoles from what I know, I personally play it on ps5 but overall I never found a difference between the two

[civic tulip]

You like playing it on the ps5? You having fun?

[eager eagle]

Yeah, it’s pretty fun, right now on elephant

[civic tulip]

Cool! I’ll download it rn! And if it’s not good it’s your fault and I’ll find you

[eager eagle]

Good thing that’s a joke

[frozen ivy]

Graphics fucking sucks after the console update

[eager eagle]

Right?

[stone bay]

its cause of UE5 stuff, not voids fault

[frozen ivy]

To the guy saying flashbangs still work, no they don't
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_LItiH7bafQ

[frozen ivy]

Um what? How is it not their fault it's their game.

[upbeat rain]

If I get all the mission aspects and still dont get S rank, is that due to time or killing too much

[stone bay]

it IS their game, its the ENGINE that game runs on that causes most of this stuff

[jolly verge]

You can't kill anyone for S grade

[civic tulip]

Nope… would you say it’s worth 50 bucks?

[eager eagle]

Yeah

[frozen ivy]

So what they changed engines? Still their fault.

[bold steppe]

But uh, it kinda is their fault? All these PC issues we have from the console release should not be there. They should've delayed the console launch, they had to know of these issues beforehand.

[civic tulip]

Ight kisses on the cheek

[eager eagle]

Like I don’t have PS plus and it’s still fun solo

[stone bay]

[eager eagle]

I am NOT into that freaky stuff

[civic tulip]

I AM🤑

[upbeat rain]

S rank is purely non lethal?

[stone bay]

yes yes lets go back into early and completley switch from one game engine to another
like that fucking works

[prisma vault]

yeah blaming it on the engine is a crazy take ue5 has problems but it's up to the developer to wrangle it

[jolly verge]

Yes

[prisma vault]

they swapped engines like a year and a half ago

[frozen ivy]

Copium. This game literally getting the Payday 2 treatment.

[upbeat rain]

boring...

[bold steppe]

EXACTLY. The devs of NMRiH 2 have been wrangling the UE5 engine's issues constantly, and they provide monthly Major updates.

[eager eagle]

It doesn’t HAVE to be non lethal guns and stuff but you can’t kill anyone, you can have lethal stuff just don’t fire I think

[sonic sleet]

Just my regular statement of holy fuck multiplayer in this game is cancer. Nonstop crashes

[stone bay]

listen man i dont know why some parts of the game look like shit, but as far as i know its not cause of voids its some UE5 techical issue

[upbeat rain]

do incaps count or only surrender

[eager eagle]

I think only surrender but idk for sure

[stone bay]

ive said this many times but they're looking into it

[eager eagle]

I’ve only S ranked thank you come again and I still struggled

[jolly verge]

Surrender only

[civic tulip]

Oh yeah baby it’s downloading!!

[frozen ivy]

Some parts? The entire looks like absolute dog ass since the console update. It's dark as fuck, textures are blurry, etc. what does that have to do with UE5. If UE5 was that bad nobody would use it

[eager eagle]

What’s the best body armor?

[stone bay]

"ue5 was that bad"

[frozen ivy]

I'm changing my review, like Jesus Christ the core gameplay loop is so fun but the devs are determined to drive it into the ground like payday 2

[jolly verge]

After this patch steel is the best

[bold steppe]

VOID may not exactly cause the issue, but there is NO WAY they didn't know of at least half these bugs before the update. I don't completely blame VOID on this matter, but I do completely blame what I can only describe as Willful Ignorance as they likely just said "Eh, we'll fix it later."

[eager eagle]

change your settings gang, idk what to tell you

[frozen ivy]

Dude it looked absolute fine before the update, and I have all graphics settings maxed. I can crank the gamma but then it's washed out as fuck.

[eager eagle]

I dunno what to tell you brochacho

[honest marsh]

I don't get the "change what ain't broken", it's not like there was a LOT of improvement. I'd rather have a game that looks a bit dated, but plays juuuust right than latest UE version that isn't enjoyable.

Hell people play SWAT4 still and that looks like play-doh

[frozen ivy]

Dude everything is fucking broken, flashbangs, gas, enemies awareness... enshitification

[neon monolith]

It would be nice if they add it where people can level up

[frozen ivy]

Atp could just release an old version of the game and it would be better

[neon monolith]

I was just thinking ideas because once you get every watch game is pretty much done

[eager eagle]

Yo is it true on elephant some of the shooters act as students?

[stone bay]

yeah

[frank edge]

Lethal obsession, S tiered the guy is constantly glitched in the fucking wall👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[eager eagle]

Ima just shoot everyone then gng

[stone bay]

STOP VIOLATING YOUR ROE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[prisma vault]

welcome to the update

[rigid tartan]

Bro why is it saying no servers found in ready or not

And why can’t I post group post what the fuck is this bullshit?

[frozen ivy]

Yeah ik. Wish the devs actually cared about this game instead of idk what even. Chasing Sony money I guess??

[rigid tartan]

Wait till bro finds out patches are already being prepared.

[stone bay]

this is ragebait

[eager eagle]

Yo on valley of the dolls I thought the girls were innocent, like the daughters friends were innocent

[rigid tartan]

0/10 ragebait btw

[frozen ivy]

Or just... don't fuck it up so bad in the first place? Like name one positive thing they did in the update.

[frozen ivy]

Everyone saying flashbangs work fine and the console changes are good is rage bait

[high timber]

Flashes do work fine?

[frozen ivy]

I'm pissed because I spent money on this shit and they proceed to fuck the game up Payday 2 style

[high timber]

Other things nah

[frozen ivy]

🧢
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_LItiH7bafQ

[rigid tartan]

Flashbangs are fine the launcher for it is not you don’t understand anything about coding or programming so you clearly assume that they can catch bugs before they happen.

[spark haven]

I agree

[frozen ivy]

"Works on my machine"

[upbeat rain]

Anyone ever run into an issue with civilians wearing bomb vests not surrendering?

[stone bay]

oh i forgot they have me blocked LFMAO

[prisma vault]

the people who say "works fine" clearly didn't play before the update or if they did they just didn't pay attention to the pre-update state

[languid creek]

Unable to connect to epic services….

[frozen ivy]

I write Rust for a living bro. It's not bugs, it's changing shit that nobody asked for and NOT PLAYTESTING at all. Where I work we have tests and QA.

[spark haven]

S ranked all missions since it came on Xbox with flashes and M32A1 flash

[frozen ivy]

And I'm talking about the throwable not the launcher

[eager eagle]

How do I pull out my shield on console?

[languid creek]

Now it works like what

[stone bay]

hold y

or

[frozen ivy]

My friend bought the supporter edition years ago for $100, he got scammed terribly. At least I got it recently and not for $100 lol.

[jovial frigate]

so am i the only one who thinks the game looks worse for some reason

[eager eagle]

Thank you

[frozen ivy]

Yeah that's what I just said, it looked fine before it's dark as shit now. All my settings are the same. Thanks consoles I guess. Idek

[proud hedge]

Bro this game looks like ass rn

[lament tartan]

Do you still need to non lethal to get a S on missions where the team lead specifically says use lethal fire?

[jovial frigate]

dude i cant take screenshots BC IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT

[frozen ivy]

They keep changing things nobody asked for ever

[jovial frigate]

yeah it looks weird

[proud hedge]

Yea Im hoping next patch solves the visual issues

[frozen ivy]

I lost an S today because a flashbang refused to work. Threw it literally at this dudes feet and it did nothing.

[jovial frigate]

yeah especially the close up stuff like i got close to the hands and it looked really bad so i got off

[frozen ivy]

It's so fucking frustrating because the game has so much potential and the devs seem so determined to ruin it. Hence why I keep comparing it to Payday 2 I loved loved loved that game and every single update they trashed it worse and worse eventually I just couldn't play it anymore.

[muted rampart]

Yo I havent played in awhile, I had the quad nods on my HRT helmet and I just bought my buddy the game and he can equip quad nods and I can't

[jovial frigate]

i even paid for the supporter edition

[frank edge]

You’d think they would’ve tested the game before releasing to spot game breaking bugs….

[proud hedge]

Yea the core of this game is so fun. They just need to fix up the many issues and it will be peak

[muted rampart]

supporter edition where my quad nods?

[stone bay]

they did, something went arwy once it released istg maybe someone went into void and sabotaged the game

[charred ginkgo]

Can supporter edition get long hk416, thank you!

[frozen ivy]

I hope they do bc it's actually so fucking fun when it works. They're just focusing on the wrong things.

[jovial frigate]

game runs bad for me now too

[prime schooner]

hi

[frozen ivy]

I'm not saying this is true because all I can do is speculate but the only time I've seen this kind of enshittifcation when they don't listen to players and chase random bullshit that everyone who likes the game tells them not to is when a big name publisher (EA/Activision famously) is forcing them to do it for "shareholder value". Again I'm not saying that's what's happening here bc afaik Void is independent right? So that's why idk why they're fucking up the game so bad.

[spark bay]

They are independent
Meaning they don't have to share the money with anyone other then the platform its sold on
So its purely selfish

[frozen ivy]

That's the worst case scenario though like... I can't imagine devs that care about their creation doing that...

[rigid tartan]

What do you consider the things that players didn’t want added?

[frozen ivy]

None of my code is a big deal obviously but I could never

[jovial frigate]

It's one of three things

1. They are stupid and truly thought that it was "good enough"
2. They are established in the fact that its a well known and well revered game so they think they don't have to try as hard and got lazy
3. They just shit the bed on accident as far as graphically

[spark bay]

Its simple
I used to stay in the army for my country and cuz i liked it
But years passed and middle east wars happend and well
The deployments paid too well
I ruined my life over money just cuz i wanted more

[frozen ivy]

• console graphics
• censorship that's been bemoaned to death
• whatever they changed about gas and flashes and shit
• C2 position on the door, yeah it's not a big deal but it was confusing as fuck moving it to the door frame and just... why?
• all save data hidden
• cross play
  Is that enough?

[gilded gulch]

The games like less than half the size on console than pc, it was rushed and gutted graphically, I own both versions, walls and the likes are noticeably pixelated

[spark haven]

Yes S rank is everyone survives/arrested

[rigid tartan]

Censorship was not there fault flashes is a bug that can easily be fixed your all overreacting if you don’t want to play on console if you have a PC play on PC if you don’t endure the console graphics cause from what im seeing it’s just fine.

[jovial frigate]

you can disable cross play but the censorship isn't a big deal to me because it doesn't take away from the game for me at least but a lot of changes that fuck with it for no reason in particular

[rigid tartan]

Cross play is what has been causing the high latency for my teammates it’s been causing network interference.

[spark haven]

Also PC has a mod to reverse the censorship anyway iirc

[gilded gulch]

Cross play is broken atm, on or off you still get cross platform players joining or you join them

[spark bay]

I have like a dozen pictures of the graphics being fucked on my ps5 but i'm just too lazy getting all of those and posting them
The graphics are bad on some maps..

[spark haven]

My guess servers having issues by player count like most games who gets a lot of players fast servers are always garbage

[spark bay]

It got taken down

[jovial frigate]

ive played the highest settings for the whole time ive played and ive noticed it got worse

[spark haven]

Thought it was back again

[frozen ivy]

What are you on about, I'm on PC.
I don't want to discuss censorship because every sides point has been belabored to death already it is what it is.
Flashes not working is game breaking and should've been detected during testing and even so should have been hot fixed asap

[spark bay]

Oh
I might be wrong then
Idk
I don't have mods

[spark bay]

Here's the thing
They use youtubers and streamers for testing and they DON'T have the balls to say anything bad cuz they are scared they don't get invited again

[frozen ivy]

Like is this game going to go the Bethesda route of making the community fix all the game breaking bugs? Ffs. Just work on the actual game and not stupid bullshit like fucking up the graphics. Who asked for that

[frozen ivy]

They don't do any internal testing? Like at my company bugs are triaged, assigned to sprints and shit like they don't do any of that?

[valid raven]

I can’t find any standard servers

[frozen ivy]

We always test internal before external

[valid raven]

Like standard difficulty

Do most people want to play casual?

[jovial frigate]

i can really notice it because i love taking screenshots for this game and i cant get close because its not as detailed anymore

[spark bay]

Not to my knowledge
It doesn't look like it atleast
If so then very bady

[valid raven]

Crossplay is on

Is standard difficulty really as dead as this is making it appear?

[spark haven]

I'm a Xbox player so IDK either but a friend who plays on PC did say it was taken down and is back again but IDK now

[worn crater]

Guys i really need help i think i messed up my plat run😭😭😭

[gilded gulch]

I think most people just like to test waters with causal to see if teammates are gonna team kill then are going to the higher modes

[spark bay]

Maybe
Some people just wanna chill and those who take it seriously usually don't host public

[worn crater]

I finished the ermite and the world trophys but i didn't get the one where i gotta do everything in c+ hard

I did everything in standard and A idk why i got only one

[spark bay]

Also
Your company?
I'm intrigued

[prisma vault]

They only tested the internal and didn't playtest the final packaged/cooked/shipped build

[frozen ivy]

The one I work for I mean, not like I own it. I'm just a cog sadly

[stone bay]

sigh

[wraith gale]

talking about VOID doing testing?

[spark bay]

Yep

[wraith gale]

they did test. something broke in between the ending of testing -> publishing of said update.

[prisma vault]

generally no though there's something very wrong there usually with void anything new has twice the bugs which get patched out months down the line

[spark haven]

Have to say a lot of the game is easy on standard but some achievements are just painful especially solo

[spark bay]

So
They didn't test the release version then

[worn crater]

Yall are more ignoring me than my dad did

[spark bay]

They are kinda meant to be a challenge

[worn crater]

And thats hard getting past that level

[wraith gale]

they did. there was a problem in between the END of testing, and sharing the update with microsoft/sony. some code probably got messed up

[prisma vault]

they tested the internal one

internal and release build are two different things; usually you test both

[wraith gale]

kam said they tested the version they pushed out

[prisma vault]

you don't just test the internal, make changes and cook it, and then NOT test the pushed version

[prisma vault]

no, he said the internal version and then they pushed it which is what we have now

[spark haven]

I get that but some are just ultra pain. S rank all maps mostly easy, 2 headshots past 30 meters iirc easy, the 2 I am having trouble with is complete all objectives in under 5 min and kill/arrest a guy every 15 seconds

[prisma vault]

they didn't test after packing/cooking the release otherwise we would'nt be talking about it

[wraith gale]

so they pushed the TESTED INTERNAL version? im confused

[spark bay]

How is it fucked on pc then
The pc is still the main source

[spark haven]

Even complete hide and seek with taser, flash grenades and weapon melee was easy AF for me

[worn crater]

Damn yall doubling down

[prisma vault]

no, they tested their internal version --> that version gets packaged/cooked/shipped (you would test here, they didn't) --> the update is released to players

[worn crater]

Im just talking to the fuckin discord background

[spark bay]

OHHHHH
That one is pain
There is a tutorial for it

[wraith gale]

they dont have to share patch details with steam as much as they do with console platforms (google said this, sorry if im wrong)

[spark haven]

I tried to watch paths to take for 5 min but the civilians keep hiding in stupid spots and not coming out when all guys are arrested or dead

[safe shale]

i got a question, i just S ranked a map without killing anyone, and now im doing that big port map right and whilst i was using shield to protect someone whilst theyre restraining, hostile ai killed the suspect we were restraining, can we still S rank?

[spark bay]

No.

[spark bay]

Thats not the problem...
Problem is with the game code
The patch changes the code
Its not the patch that is fucked
Its the game
The patch is the same for both consoles and pc
It doesn't just randomly get fucked cuz one platform got fucked code
If only one platform had it
Then it wouldn't affected others unless they copied the code from it

[cedar sparrow]

yo should i buy home invasion dlc or the dark waters dlc? looking more twoards better looking maps

[wild rampart]

Anybody having the problem with getting the achievement where you have to have a C+ or high for Carriers if the Vine, Sins of the Father, Ides of March, and Lethal Obsession? I’ve gotten grade B’s and A’s and I still haven’t unlocked the achievement.

[safe shale]

:/

[spark bay]

Uhhhh
What you wanna do is make everyone surrender
Arrest suspect AND cancle before you do
It will make them drop their guns
And once you do all you command them to crawl close to eachother(pain and slow) and then arrest them 1 by 1

Its pretty much the way to cheat it

[spark haven]

S rank is all officers survive, all civilians and all enemies + all objectives complete/all evidence secured

Some maps is pretty easy to s rank others like post office for me was pain since I kept doing team DMG

[spark haven]

Don't you also need to close both gun boxes and tell your officers to stay there?

[safe shale]

er.... i just S tiered post office first try ngl

[spark bay]

Same

On ironman

Its not that hard
Just don't go through the most fucking populated area like everyone does

And then complain

Even tho its fuckin annoying they can just shoot you through the gaps like that

[spark haven]

Most my failed S rank runs was from team DMG

From flashbangs

[spark bay]

Most of mine was crossfire

[mystic rock]

hey, i bought the game on july 2, 2022. i have some of the early release items, but see that i don't have the 'supporter edition' items. is there a difference between having bought the early release game and the supporter edition?

[spark haven]

But maps some people thought were hard first or 2nd try for me LOL

Like the nightclub and hospital and hide and seek

[spark bay]

Supporter edition was extra paid

[mystic rock]

alright i suppose i don't have it then, thanks

[spark bay]

The fact you can see it is a current bug

Its supposed to be hidden

[spark bay]

I find hide and seek easy
Relaplse and Neon Tumb tho
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm lucky to not have ptsd from work cuz this would be a nightmare

[naive pilot]

if im trying to s rank and a combatant kills another combatant do i lose s rank score?

[spark bay]

Yes
Gotta restart

[timid totem]

When the new update came out was there a score wipe for everyone

[spark bay]

Its a bug

[timid totem]

I lost all my S Ranks

Bro

[spark bay]

Mhm

Annoying as hell

[spark haven]

Most was easy for me be it I did use the M32A1 for a lot but I did replay them without it and S ranked as well

[crude prism]

The save file is still there, it's just not being displayed properly.

Don't worry

[spark bay]

Same
Its OP as hell

[spark haven]

Beanbag shotty and AI with the single shot 40mm flash launchers and flash/stinger still made it pretty easy

[prime spear]

Well, thankfully I ain't a rank grinder.

[spark bay]

[spark bay]

I just gave everyone 40mm

[buoyant pecan]

My fake GPNVGs for cosplay arrived in the mail lol

[spark bay]

Cool

[prime spear]

You've got mail.

[buoyant pecan]

Fr fr

[spark bay]

[buoyant pecan]

I wish I could see out of them tho lol

For some reason they extremely zoomed in lol

Appearance-wise tho they hit the mark

[bleak dirge]

Mount them as high as possible on the g24 and as far out as possible, then tilt your helmet back like an inch and you can see 50/50 in and out of them

[spark haven]

I normally had AI with 2 shields, 1 40mm flash and a ram and 2 pepperball ARs, 1 SMG and beanbag I stuck with the M32A1 flash with 12 rounds total

[bleak dirge]

Its what devgru, fbi hrt, and 24th sts do

[spark bay]

Cringe

[buoyant pecan]

These are dummy NVGs from China lol
They probably can’t do any of that lol

[bleak dirge]

You dont have an adjustable g24 mount?

[spark bay]

Fair
I like mine simple
Can't be bothered making individual loadouts

[buoyant pecan]

I only got them for cosplay purposes
Cause functional ones are like $20,000 lol

[bleak dirge]

45,000

[buoyant pecan]

Getting a helmet mount soon

[bleak dirge]

I am a proud owner of a crye JPC

[spark bay]

When you buy mounts
Get a metal one
The shitty plastic ones will break

[safe shale]

I S tiered a map, but its showing 'Hard B' cuz i got B when i did it in hard, but rn i S tiered in standard so whys it not showing

[bleak dirge]

Yes, please if you have an infinite budget get something from wilcox but if not Specprecision.com has some nice metal ones

[buoyant pecan]

Imma go surplus and tactical store shopping tomorrow

[wicked charm]

Wait….There used to be an auxiliary sniper in old ready or not’s early days?

[safe shale]

there was a sniper

[spark bay]

Hard difficulty is considered higher than S regular

[bleak dirge]

Ask for a dovetail mount, the rhino wont work and any anvis mount wont fit unless its ball detent

[wicked charm]

Fuck that would have been so damn clean…..

[safe shale]

was actually painful as it was bolt action but itd be useful in the port map

[buoyant pecan]

Yeee I’ve heard dovetail is the way to go

[gaunt rock]

not "a lethal obsession" having the guy get stuck in the damn walls

[spark bay]

Was in SWAT 4

[safe shale]

so i did S tier in standard but it jusdt rather show the hard difficulty

[wicked charm]

Ik

[spark bay]

Yes

[wicked charm]

Well you’d use it when you needed the support right?

[safe shale]

the old maps were mostly CQB lol.. it was very useless ngl so using it was either for a challenge or just boredom

[wicked charm]

Wait it was an actual sniper rifle you could bring in not a post up sniper from outside the building?

[safe shale]

you'd bring it in lol, and it was a remington or one like a remington

[wicked charm]

Oooooh. Gotcha. Thought in the ea days you could switch to an auxiliary sniper outside the map.

[safe shale]

i wish 💔

[buoyant pecan]

I forgot they had a sniper rifle in the game in the past

[spark bay]

If you ever feel like they should return something
Remember there is a usable m249 in the files

[safe shale]

they also had m16s & m4s which i prefer over the current mk18 because they were satisfying

[buoyant pecan]

I really want an old school M16 in the game

[wicked charm]

Why would SWAT have an M249?

[stone bay]

I got a question ik this is a dumb question but will there be like coolish camps for the guns at some point in the future? Just a dumb curious question is all

[buoyant pecan]

Why would SWAT raid an oil rig

[spark bay]

Why would swat have 50ae 1911

[delicate grail]

someone tell me cause i heard that
Cancelling a restrain animation will make it so that suspects dont get back up?
how do i do thsi?

[wicked charm]

All Valid points

[safe shale]

theres a reason you can equip vests without police on them

[buoyant pecan]

Why would SWAT send 5 dudes to stop a massacre by like 35 terrorists

[spark bay]

Yes
And
No clue

[median coyote]

BECAUSE in the lore, they LS SWAT wanted to expand operations to the sea

[spark bay]

Is that what coast guard is for

[buoyant pecan]

Airborne dlc when

[median coyote]

yeah idk why, but they just wanted to

[spark bay]

(Yes i know they trained with coast guard for it)

[spark bay]

Idk

[wicked charm]

Just give me a damn Vector and I’ll be happy even if the magazine is small as shit.

[spark bay]

Spas 12

[wicked charm]

Honestly I wouldn’t mind the Spas-12 at all.

[spark bay]

Not many games have it as of late

[wicked charm]

Also does anyone else find the mag fed shotgun to be rather shite?

[spark bay]

Nope

It might be personal feeling
I find anything bellow 7.62 underwhelming

[wicked charm]

Because every shot I’ve hit with it only incapacitates…..

[spark bay]

I'm biased tho

[spark bay]

Do you wanna KILL people?

[wicked charm]

Considering I’m using buckshot against methheads I don’t think they should be incapacitated when hit with a 12 Gauge buck shot to the chest.

[spark bay]

Meatheads are either absolute tanks or George Floyd
Choose

[north kraken]

Can you stack the armorer cops?

[spark bay]

Yes

[north kraken]

Bet thanks

[spark bay]

NO
SORRY
I FORGOT
ITS ONE OF THE THREE THAT DON'T

FUCK

It only provides 5% demage reduction
And plus 50% to armor durability anyways

[wicked charm]

Dude corrected himself He says he was wrong.

[spark bay]

Ughhhhhh
Fuck

[wicked charm]

Dude probably thinks his dudes will be like the damn Terminators now 😂

[spark bay]

Lmao

[rugged tiger]

Can an enemy know where I am based off my laser pointer?

[spark bay]

Not sure anyone knows the answer

[prisma vault]

I modded a model I made of it in at one point #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[wicked charm]

What purpose would the IR Laser have if the enemy couldn’t detect the regular laser

[wicked charm]

🔥

[spark bay]

Normal one doesn't do the beam

Also
Larp

[spark bay]

Awesome
I'm on console tho

Semi or pump?

[prisma vault]

it replaced the b1301 so it was semi

[spark bay]

Awesome

[prisma vault]

would be cool if I ever put it back in if figuring out semi/pump would work but that was just a replacer really

[spark bay]

Uhhhhhhh
That would be pain me thinks

[prisma vault]

yeah

[spark bay]

No game has done it

I need a spas 12 irl

Even tho it would be useless cuz i can't use it for work

[prisma vault]

I picked up one a couple weeks ago didn't get the folding stock but I'm happy with the solid one

haven't shot it yet

[spark bay]

Aw
But the hook stock is cool

[north kraken]

Which 3 don’t stack

[prisma vault]

yeah they are but 2x the price unfortunately maybe one day

[spark bay]

Kicker
Armorer
And kinda paramedic
It doesn't increase the chance it just gives it to more cops instead of one

2 para = 2 dead cop chances

[spark bay]

Yeah
It do be like that

[north kraken]

Bet

[crude prism]

Slug doesn't do enough damage to 100% drain the healthpool of a basic suspect.

But it does knock them past the 50% threshold so they incap.

Buckshot doesn't either, it just kills way more because of bleedouts or dismemberment

[wicked charm]

So it’s a bug on Hard mode? Because the health pool for suspects is higher?

[keen lava]

It looks like there hasn’t been a substantial update since February, is that a normal timeframe for updates or is it a wider gap due to them focusing on console porting

[spark bay]

The updates are random. No schedule

[stone bay]

i always go lethal on most of the missions besides ends of the earth

[crude prism]

Nah, on all modes. Slug is only 250 on a torso hit. (buckshot is 320 if all pellets hit at close range)

Base suspect health is 320 (160 to incap)
Base suspect health on Hard is 350 (175 to incap)

[spark bay]

Fair honestly

[stone bay]

ends of the earth is honestly sad

[crude prism]

There was a substantial update on July 15th?

[wicked charm]

What the fuck? But it’s buckshot to an unarmored chest…..

[keen lava]

Sorry I meant as in what the previous precedent or pattern is, or is it still pretty random?

[keen lava]

Where can I find info on this

[spark bay]

I just said it.

[spark bay]

It do be like that

[proud hedge]

https://steamdb.info/app/1144200/patchnotes/

[crude prism]

#announcements message <- recent update

Void operates on roughly 6 month cycles for content updates.

19 months since launch, 3 content updates

-Home Invasion (DLC 1)
-Dark Waters (DLC 2)
-Los Suenos Stories free update

[spark bay]

[wicked charm]

I believe your info M man but like shouldn’t buckshot kill to the chest since it’s pretty damn fatal to be filled with buckshot especially within CQC

[crude prism]

Mild inconvenience.

[spark bay]

Nah
You shooting censored ammo
Can't be lethal

[wicked charm]

Did you snip my bullets?! Am I shooting blanks?!

[spark bay]

I just took half your pellets

[crude prism]

Void simulates shotgun lethality with the arterial bleeding and dismemberment mechanics.

Both of which are instantly fatal dicerolls that are added on head/arm/leg shots

[keen lava]

Thanks guys, hopefully they can get them out faster with the success of console sales

[wicked charm]

So to balance they made it do less damage to the chest?

[crude prism]

No. It just doesn't do enough damage to 1-hit kill anyone but base suspects.

Buckshot does 320 if all pellets hit, base suspect health is 320, it'll kill

Slug is 250

[spark bay]

Where do you get those numbers from?
I was searching for an hour just find an empty spreadsheet

[wicked charm]

Okay so your saying with my mag fed shotgun all my pellets aren’t hitting?

[spark bay]

[spark bay]

Possible

[crude prism]

MY spreadsheet isn't so empty.

[crude prism]

Are you on Standard or Hard difficulty? Also some suspects have increased health depending on the map

[wicked charm]

Because I get so much more incapacitated with the mag fed and I have no idea why

[wicked charm]

Hard. Twisted Nerve

[spark bay]

Whats the 7.62 demage jhp vs ap
I'm tweaking out trying to find it

[crude prism]

Go crazy. #👮ron-discussion message

(160, 180)

[wicked charm]

I’m just confused is all. I appreciate you trying to clear it up M.

[crude prism]

Base suspect health is 350 on Hard, you won't get a buckshot 1-shot-KILL without a headshot, or bleed/dismember

Still plenty reliable for incaps tho

[frosty widget]

do you need the dlc to play dlc maps

[wicked charm]

Just a friend that has the dlc

[north kraken]

New method if your guides to slow on Xbox to close app when you die just pull your power cord

[spark bay]

Oh my fuckin god
Turns out i just didn't know how to navigate that shit
Thanks

[spark bay]

Yes
Except for new two

[wicked charm]

Okay so on Hard The buckshot isn’t lethal but still takes them down into incap. I still think that’s an….odd game design choice. Considering buckshot to the chest would be fatal majority of the time. But at least I know why now my buckshot is incapacitating my suspects lol

[spark bay]

Its not make them op
A gun that shoots multiple bullets at once is kinda hard to balance

[crude prism]

Yeah it's just how the damage/health system works.

Basic health pools with multipliers for limbs/etc

Hopefully I didn't confuse you at all

[frosty widget]

buckshot is sometimes too lethal. I've had it blow people's arms/face off.

othertimes suspects are too bullet spongy

[wicked charm]

Yeah because that’s by design. Arms and heads are insta kill zones with buckshot.

[wicked charm]

Thank you man!!!! Appreciated

[frosty widget]

so I can't play multiplayer then

[crude prism]

maybe I should make a sequel to the shotgun video "just_aim_lmao"

[wicked charm]

You can

[spark bay]

Oh
If your friend has it you can play with them

[crude prism]

😎 👍 I gotchu 🅱️

[wicked charm]

Now I know why. So my mind is at ease even though it feels oddly weird.

[fast mantle]

With the completion of 3 letter triad (which is now my favorite and most hated map), I have completed all missions in the game with Atleast an A

[wraith gale]

real ronners do everything on S

(do everything on S)

[lavish trellis]

I wonder will they ever have the game ps5 pro enhanced. The graphics for Ron is not very good on my ps5 pro compared to other games.

[buoyant rune]

not for a long time

[crude prism]

There are some issues present with graphical quality on the latest build, both PC and console

The current iteration is not intentional (thank fuck)

[lavish trellis]

So far my fav levels are the hotel, cruise ship, farm, night club, and bodyshop.

[knotty sage]

How. Can I do an us marshals outfit

[lavish trellis]

I'm not a fan of abandoned dark buildings with graffiti.

[wraith gale]

you would've loved the OG hotel

[lavish trellis]

Man why can't I react with emoji

[fast mantle]

I've done half the main missions with S. I don't think I want to do 3 letter triad on S

[mellow kite]

I feel like the ai has wallhack I'm stuck at Greased Palms

[gilded shore]

just lock in

[wraith gale]

do them all

[plush aurora]

Could i still unlock the supporter edition stuff or no?

[mellow kite]

These first levels are easy S-rank and then i spawn randomly in vietnam can't even complete the mission with full lethal squad

[wraith gale]

nah, it was a PC exclusive pre order from 2021

[mellow kite]

You can only S-rank with beanbag or something

[lavish trellis]

There is a pepper rifle and smg. Flash bang, taser, stinger launcher helps.

[jovial frigate]

yeah you get guns and gear

there is even a special discord

[tiny quail]

ngl i just noticed that the briefing for missions are really quick, like i wonder how many minutes the swat takes from a 911 call to them being on the scene

wdym after the 911 call you pinpointed the suspects, civillians, not to mention their backstories, AND the map of the scene

[fast mantle]

I will do the main missions. I am not doing Triad probably like half the dlc missions. They are so ass to play bc the AI are actually competent

[mellow kite]

I don't know who's idea it was to put a big ass open place and a distrubution center where the AI just has wallhack in a game like this.

[fast mantle]

You just have to not kill people. I use the flash launcher

[crude prism]

for funsies, tee-hee (loud warning)

[mellow kite]

So someone shoots at you and you try pacify them?

[mellow kite]

Isn't solo better?

[wraith gale]

yoink

[crude prism]

depends, some maps are just annoying to S rank no matter what

[stone bay]

oh if you thought THAT map was bad wait until you see relapse

[mellow kite]

Best pacify weapon looks to be the beanbag but the map isn't made like that and i know some play this game like it's call of duty 120 FOV style gameplay

[mellow kite]

Honestly not worth my time

[mellow kite]

That map is bad

[stone bay]

FUCK relapse

[mellow kite]

bad design

[mellow kite]

how can it be worse

[mellow kite]

I only managed to find that fisa agent once

And he shot at me and like every police man would to is return fire

[crude prism]

EXACTLY

the level is designed to troll the fuck out of you

[muted saffron]

Any tips on how to arrest Zahir Asadullah without killing him?

[crude prism]

Besides going nonlethal?

Knock him out with bodyshots, just don't overshoot

As long as he is incapacitated and not dead, you're fine

[muted saffron]

Thanks a lot

[rustic urchin]

Anybody else's game lagging to high hell after this update? Everytime i shoot or get shot at my fps drops heavily

And graphics are downgraded as hell gahdamn

[sullen oracle]

Any tips for three letter triad?

[peak coyote]

Take it slow

You can get domed from like 17 angles at any given time

[inland pewter]

It happens a lot mostly when I use A shotgun. Or random online lobbies

[rustic urchin]

To me it happens everytime my swat ai shoots, when i shoot or when the enemy ai shoots. I use an F90 and my team uses F90 and MCX so idk if weapons have any correlation with it

[wraith gale]

they weren't downgraded

[minor panther]

Hey guys, has anyone experienced bugs with the ironman mode achievements? I have completed ironman mode 100% with no officer deaths or resignations but for some reason the cosmetic and the achievement refused to activate

[wraith gale]

1. ive played since 2021

2. "downgrading" means it was intentional. which it wasnt. (read #archived-known-issues)

nah, im only playing on PS rn bc i wanted to try it out lol, its all good

[delicate grail]

someone tell me genuinely what is the point of hollow points

[wraith gale]

for when the SWAT team wants to see flower pedals on skin

[crude prism]

Slightly more base damage, and they deal significantly more limb damage (70%) than their AP counterparts. (30%)

Also reduce collateral damage, and increase odds for flinching/bleedouts

[lucid pine]

is this the real server?

[rustic urchin]

They work better on unarmored targets cuz they expand

And like MMMM said they reduce collateral damage because they have less overpenetration

Ig u just have good shot placement

AP works fine for me too i generally never run hollows cuz a lot of targets are armored

[delicate grail]

seems kinda like they wont help when everyoen wears armor
or that you are aiming for the chest and not limbs

[proud hedge]

no

[rustic urchin]

U right they dont do jack against armor cuz it aint penetratin

[crude prism]

Aiming for the chest/head is always the best, and you'll get plenty of arm hits doing that.

Some JHP rounds can penetrate various suspect armor still. (rifles mostly)

[delicate grail]

yall do single fire or full auto???

[rustic urchin]

Single fire on carbines full auto on smgs

If deres civvies its recommended to stay on single fire

Oh nah for me its all out dawg lmao

[lucid pine]

:/

[rustic urchin]

Damn wrong place at the wrong time lol

U generally wanna order civilians around to a safer place behind cover in situations like that

Yea they sometimes dont listen man idk if thats a bug or nah

RTX 2060 i usually play on medium graphics

But some graphic settings r custom

For instance i set my optiwand to 20 fps or shadow to low

Gahdamn lmao

Make sure you make it so it goes fullscreen and cap its fps to smth acceptable like 20 fps

Theres prebuilts running on rtx 4060 they r pretty affordable

Or gtx 1660 and rtx 2060 is decent too

Oh nah i genuinely think bodycam will make any decent pc explode lmao ur gonna have to wait for that one

[trim elbow]

Damn 3 letter triad is tough

[rigid thistle]

anyone else find you cant put c2 on the main suspect's apartment door?

[void briar]

is it actually possible to do any arrests on hard diff

[shy tulip]

Look higher up on the door

[steady beacon]

some doors have a diff spot where u can put C2

[void briar]

haakke and i did thank you come again on hard to dip our toes and got lit up by every suspect 💀

[jovial lagoon]

Are the servers down ?

[drowsy chasm]

It says neon tomb is censored on console how is it censored ion see nth wrong?

[covert aurora]

Its not.

[drowsy chasm]

Oh alr ppl js told me it was

I didn’t mean it says I meant ppl told me

[covert aurora]

Its exact how it was on release.

[drowsy chasm]

N also can I look on steam for small updates n shi cz Xbox doesn’t tell me. Or r the pc hotfixes n updates different from console

[stable kernel]

The game has one worldwide and cross platform version for crossplay purposes

So everyone gets the same updates

[drowsy chasm]

Alr bet thx

[ancient pollen]

Looking for ppl to play with

Me and mybuddy keep dying lol

[wraith gale]

ronsole has ruined the gaming space forever. (dont press on my profile)

[rustic urchin]

If u wanna know my loadout for completing it first try i ran blue ops w shields n mcx and red ops w f40 w flashbang launchers and for myself i ran f40 and optiwand

And for gadgets i ran only 5 flashbangs and one c2 on every operator including myself

[trim elbow]

What’s the point of c2? I never ran it. Never thought it was useful

[vernal bane]

Door goes boom boom

[rustic urchin]

Its to blow up doors and i generally like using them cuz hostiles shit their pants and surrender quickly

If anyone stands too close in front of the c2 they die or get incapacitated

[covert aurora]

Blowing open doors if a suspect is near them it uncons them and lowers moral of others insidr

[wraith gale]

linch please lock general theyre being freaky

[rustic urchin]

If i wanna clear out a room with too many hostiles i c2 the door and then have one of my ops flash it with their launcher

Then one shield goes up front and clears it with the rest

[rich valley]

They’ll probably move to chatting here if linch does that

[wraith gale]

true

[rustic urchin]

Thats how i did triads

[ancient pollen]

How do i get more ppl in a public game

[wraith gale]

pure luck

[rich valley]

And with luck ya don’t end up in a lobby with watchman,

[wraith gale]

i already had to deal with him, mightve made him log off after doing something funny

[rich valley]

Like crashing there game?

Cause that’s what I’ll do if I get stuck in a lobby with that nutcase

[rustic urchin]

Whos watchman 😭

Is that some local troll nutmeg

[covert aurora]

A guy who likes to preech relgious babil and non sense.

Also likes to hold rooms up

[rich valley]

Lunch can I post the link to Reddit thing that about this guy?

[rustic urchin]

Ig every place has its local crackhead/conspiracy theorist/overly religious nutmeg

[dusky ferry]

Who remembers when RoN used to be a worse buggier version of Insurgency Sandstorm🥲

[covert aurora]

Go for it.

[rich valley]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/s/LaxQTWvv0p

[rustic urchin]

LMAO bro that van is such a fucking red flag

[cloud tree]

Console people, what are your opinions on the enemy AI?

[rich valley]

Yup it is

[ancient pollen]

Can i find groups to play with on here?

[honest wyvern]

Is the AI intentionally on crack or is the AI bugged?

I swear these guys can shoot impossible shots

[rich valley]

Well…. Since the ai is stuipd and always uses full auto where ya expecting them to conserve ammo well?

[rustic urchin]

I might have to agree with you there why can these nortenos looking gang members shoot me with pinpoint accuracy cuz they saw me moving through a tiny pixel 😭

Damn greasy palms was torture bro

[stone bay]

Any tips for Ready or Not hard difficulty in Commander mode?

[honest wyvern]

I can't get S rank. I have been trying for days.

[stone bay]

You need some help? I can hop on and help you out.

[rich valley]

To hell with that mission I hated that one, I died way to many times trying to complete it, and at the end I couldn’t even find the dam fisa person I was looking for

[honest wyvern]

Does multiplayer still not count towards achievements?

[rustic urchin]

Hes a ceritfied dick bro hes aggressive as hell ur ai prob shot him

[graceful plume]

does anybody know if there's a mod to increase the party size?

[peak coyote]

Counts for everything except unlocking missions in quick play

[stone bay]

Still doesn't. :/

[peak coyote]

Must be a pc thing

[honest wyvern]

Dang. The only reason I care about S rank is cause I am going for the platnium on PS5.

[rustic urchin]

Btw after neutralizing hostiles and securing civilians u have an option called "search and secure" which makes ur ai sweep the whole map for dropped evidence and unrestrained suspects

It will help u complete all objectives

[rich valley]

Did that, they dint find that pest

[rustic urchin]

Well the pest has a bright yellow haircut man its hard to miss that lmao

But idk man he prolly got put down like a mutt somewhere in a dark crevice

[peak coyote]

Probably that

[honest wyvern]

As he should be

Johnny Test grew up to be a corrupt fed

[rich valley]

I probably turned him into cheese, and didn’t arrest him, and his corpse disappeared

[rustic urchin]

Less paperwork is a win man

[honest wyvern]

I can't wait to S Rank this mission so I can clean house with lethal weapons. I might have to wait for the CS fix though so I can just gas the main room.

[stone bay]

Damn. Well if it helps, running beanbag shotty and flashbangs are the way I did it.

I wedged every door I found, cleared outside first.

[stone bay]

CS fix? They got nerfed. There's no bug, right?

[honest wyvern]

That's what I'm doing. I also am using the shield for back protection.

[honest wyvern]

#archived-known-issues message

[upbeat rain]

no mirror gun for S runs?

[honest wyvern]

CS gas has no effect on them for me.

[errant bane]

carriers of the vine

[rustic urchin]

CS gas is bugged man use smth else

[honest wyvern]

Yeah I'm using flashbangs

[rich valley]

Though I don’t really care that fisa pest was a sleaze bag anyway

[crude prism]

There is no bug. It is just a nerf, Void just said "may not be acting as intended" because it's not what they want I guess

[desert island]

how much dmg does mkv ap and jhp do to armored

[stone bay]

I feel like getting hit by CS gas will immediately fuck you up. 0.5s is probably too fast? Two seconds does seem more realistic, but in the name of gameplay and fun it might be better to mod it back to being 0.5s to stun instead of 2. I'm undecided, personally.

which DLC is worth getting as a person that plays purely solo?

Either of them. The most recent one with the oil rig is really fun.

which has better weapons then? or do they not include new weapons?

[desert island]

all weps shuld b free

[stone bay]

nice

[desert island]

i heard some r locked on console tho

[humble mauve]

they are free

[honest wyvern]

I think the only one is the pre order GL which apprently will be unlocked at the release of the next DLC.

[humble mauve]

they were pre-order time locked bonuses

(they will become available for all console players later)

[desert island]

still locked

[fluid talon]

fix the dam game

[stone bay]

So the dlcs just add new maps and outfits? but nothing that would affect the gameplay?

[humble mauve]

yes

[stone bay]

great, I'll get them later then

or might get home invasion since I like the cqb maps more

I will say the new outfits look great, shame you don't see them in first person lol

[peak coyote]

Rn the 590m, MGL and hand cannon are locked behind deluxe edition

Can't even get them standalone

[desert island]

2 best weps in game locked

[peak coyote]

I feel bad for people stuck without the MGL

[crude prism]

Imo the stun time for standard should be like 1.5 seconds and Hard maybe 2 or 2.5

The main issue right now is that the radius is just nonexistent, so you don't even get the chance to stun

4 full seconds for a stun on Hard is actually ridiculous, it's not "hard" it just means that you walk into a room with gas and then die because suspects are sitting in it unaffected

[stone bay]

Yeah, I noticed the radius being non-existent. That's really dumb. Look at ACTUAL gas grenades used by SWAT. They cover a hell of a lot more area than what. 3 metres?

gas is literally useless now, you're better off just bringing 10 flashbangs 🤣

[bright pier]

Is there a mod menu or way to unlock levels? I got the game a few days ago and cannot get past greased palms. If I could refund it I would at this point. I’ve played it so many times trying different loadouts. Taking it extremely slow. Sending in my team always first. Every single time I am either shot thru a wall or killed by an enemy that I absolutely cannot see. OR am flanked last second. At this point I’m playing post office walking sim.

[rich valley]

And no ammo

[rustic urchin]

I mean dawg its just for the gameplay if you make the game TOO realistic you'll leave no room for good gameplay

[stone bay]

Play Quick Play.

[peak coyote]

It's garbage though lol

[rustic urchin]

The gameplay by itself is semi realistic but theres a lot of things that WOULDNT fly irl

[stone bay]

This is neither realistic OR good gameplay. Your point? XD I want it to be viable, not necessarily realistic, but it's neither at this point.

[peak coyote]

Like there's literally no reason to use it over flashbangs

[rustic urchin]

I do agree with the cs gas tho that shit is ass now

[stone bay]

This. It's garbage. Flashbangs are the only viable grenade right now. Gas just isn't effective.

[peak coyote]

Stingers friendly fire, cs is useless

Imo the whole benefit of CS gas is the large radius to offset the 5 years it takes to affect suspects

[rustic urchin]

Idk if this was due to the stingers but i lost a suspect once after a stinger

After that i just stayed w fbangs

[stone bay]

Hard is literally like old RoN A.I., just a revert of the changes. 🤣 They're aimbots again, I love it.

[stone bay]

Yeah stingers deal damage, flashbangs won't.

[desert island]

they r more consistently hardmode bots on hard

[stone bay]

Yeah. I like it, but man is it tough.

[rustic urchin]

Nah im pretty sure flashbangs do dmg too cuz everytime i get flashed by my dumbass ai i see parts of my limbs red

[stone bay]

They don't do damage, but you can get unauthorised force from flashing civilians.

[rustic urchin]

But i have never killed anybody with them even in a room full of hostages so i assume theyre safer

[crude prism]

This is what gas was before

[stone bay]

Flashbangs are definitely safer, yeah.

[stone bay]

This is WAY better. So what if it's really effective? That's the point.

I still think it's really dumb we can't get achievements when playing with friends. If it was a little clearer explained that would be nice. I'm still not sure if it's a bug, intentional design, or if only some achievements can be got in multiplayer. Anyone know?

[peak coyote]

I did hide and seek/greased palms s rank in multiplayer and it counted towards the all S rank achievement

[stone bay]

medal of valour?

[peak coyote]

Yea

On Xbox at least it definitely works

[stone bay]

hmm okay

I'm going for the I'm too Old for This achievment. I just did MoV

[peak coyote]

It should work

[stone bay]

ah it says any gamemode

[desert island]

flashbangs dont do dmg cuz swat ai cant kill u with flashbang launcher

[stone bay]

that's really really nice, time to get the squad together and run hard missions

[peak coyote]

Might have to go for that one sometime too but I don't see a way to track which ones you've done😭

[desert island]

just look wat maps u hav B or higher on hard

[rustic urchin]

I coulda sworn i took dmg when i got flashbanged bro or maybe my memories r making shit up again

[peak coyote]

The good news is you can go lethal too

Catharsis

[desert island]

u get "hurt" and teammates are "injured" when flashed but u can never die to it so prbly do zero damage

[stone bay]

Yesss. Lethal hard campaign run with the booys. 🙌

[desert island]

unironically lethal sucks on hard

[rustic urchin]

So the game counts 0 damage as being hurt?

[desert island]

kinda if u flash teammates u get friendly fire penalty sometimes

[peak coyote]

Yeah flashbangs can't actually damage you

[rustic urchin]

Idk man i did see my limb go red so i think it does do some degree of dmg

[peak coyote]

Even tho you can get friendly fire penalties

[rustic urchin]

Either way theyre safer

[desert island]

enemies on hard will pretty much out aim u 9/10 once they shoulder their weapons

so if u dont get a lucky heal from bleed ull get killed eventually

ur better off just stunning them with grenades then finishing them off or capturing

[graceful plume]

has anybody tried this mod recently?
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/476

[desert island]

best way to fight them is indirectly

[ionic gale]

Yo

[peak coyote]

Recovering from bleed heals?😭

[desert island]

yeah if u bleed and cover it, u get ur hp reset back to 80

[rustic urchin]

I tried it on the previous version before the censorship n everytime i opened it i'd crash

[peak coyote]

Damn

I always assumed it just stopped the bleeding

[crude prism]

They technically do damage, so it would set your status to "injured"

But you'd have to get hit by 1600 of them to die.

[rustic urchin]

Oh lmao that makes sense

Yea flashbangs over stingers den

[graceful plume]

damn, any other mods you could recommend for party size increase?

[desert island]

how come swat do like 1 shot kills when u betray them but dont do dmg with flash launcher

[sudden marsh]

this swat AI is just so bad, they get mag dumped by suspects and dont even react

[rustic urchin]

Naw sorry dawg the only one i know is the one u just posted

Ur gonna have to wait till it gets updated or sum

[stable kernel]

I have confirmed you can indeed die to flashes in game

[desert island]

i kno u can die to stingers

[stable kernel]

Not sure if door flash traps do more damage, but I have died to one of those

Stingers are ez

27 damage I think

[trim elbow]

Decided to run 3 letter triad one more time for the night. All went smoothly until I got completely destroyed while arresting 3 or four guys. Fuck

[ionic gale]

Mr MMMM…

Can you give me the stats of my favorite weapon the MCX?

[desert island]

i duno why but sometimes it says friendly fire -0 points

[noble pasture]

Three Letter Triad achievement is something out of fucking Dark Souls

[desert island]

on standard its cake

[peak coyote]

How do you even get 15 of them that quickly

[desert island]

pretty much run by and 1-2 tap everyone

[crude prism]

Summary: MCX peak

[noble pasture]

Arrest or incapacitate all suspects with a maximum of 15 seconds in between

[trim elbow]

Huh

[ionic gale]

cool
How is it compared to the MK18? Does it do certain stuff like weapons sway and such, better?

[desert island]

i think the ARN18 prbly has the best stats cuz its the only 300blk stats that can equip the sfmb brake

[noble pasture]

Someone came with a plan, Bean bag a suspect, arrest cancel him to make him drop his gun. Then congo line all suspects into a room to arrest

[desert island]

that plan takes longer than just running and gunning 4 times

[rustic urchin]

Did you try my loadout or did u go with ur own shit

[crude prism]

MCX is peak, end of story, basically best in class (5.56) for all handling and recoil related things

[ionic gale]

LFG

I KNEW I MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE WITH THIS THING

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-homelander-the-boys-homelander-sad-homelander-its-peak-homelander-peak-gif-14542009839452529163

[trim elbow]

It’s not the loadout that I’m struggling with. It’s the sudden, unavoidable fire that I suddenly receive, from which I do not where it is coming from

[rustic urchin]

Do u have nvgs

[trim elbow]

Yes

[rustic urchin]

Damn idk then bro try changing your entry point or smth but first try went smoothly for me

[trim elbow]

Lucky

[rustic urchin]

I run my same loadout on every map and i always complete em first try

[desert island]

i did the three letter triad achieveo with the mkv

[trim elbow]

I run the G3

[drowsy chasm]

How does ready or not randomize enemies n shi.

[desert island]

prbly random distributes them in spawn points around map

[drowsy chasm]

Ah ok

[desert island]

some r in specific places more often tho

[rustic urchin]

Theres a set amount of suspects and then some of them are randomized

[drowsy chasm]

Cz I’m seein spawns I’ve Neva seen before

[rustic urchin]

Which means there may be more or less than last time

They also creep up on u outside sumtimes

[desert island]

they havent changed spawns from wat ive seen they just leave their spawn point more often now

[drowsy chasm]

Oh I thought it was all rng and there wasn’t set points

[desert island]

more roamers and suspects who investigate once u get their attention

i.e. hearing gunfire yelling etc

before they wuld stay rooted and maybe ull have 1 roamer

until u specifically engage them

i.e. they see u

[peak coyote]

Mfw I wand a door and they open it in my face

[drowsy chasm]

😭

[desert island]

yeah i think sins of father on hard is hilarious cuz u kill like 1 guy then they all open the doors and come to u

u get like a conga line of enemies in the hallway

[crude prism]

There are a bunch of spawn points for each suspect, they are also roaming more since the patch on the 15th

Some suspects can have "static" locations like Qadamah on Relapse, he always spawns on the 2nd floor of building 2

[peak coyote]

Aesthetically gotta be my favourite level

But man secret service are on crack😭

[rustic urchin]

Man its secret service did u forget 😭

The typa person you'd hire to protect the president

[drowsy chasm]

Ah ok

[desert island]

also learned da civs on farm attack u
also some dont wear anything under skirt so that was a missed censor

[rustic urchin]

Lmfao

How did u find out 🤨

[desert island]

i shot her and she flashed me as she went flyin

[rustic urchin]

Dang no embed perms

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[rustic urchin]

Good bro fuck his ass #JUSTICEFORMUDASIR

[drowsy chasm]

Have yall noticed that wen u blow sumones face off it js reskins to a black bald guy no matter wat they look like before

Js shoot a mf witta shotgun point blank. Iss not js tha face either iss all they body parts if it gets dismembered it turns into a black skinned limb

[dire arrow]

these devs are tweaking

[rare lily]

chat, on doing sleeper agent achievement does restraining a dead suspect also counts as apprehending or do they need to be alive or incapacitated to do so

[desert island]

apprehend is cuffing surrendered

[strange depot]

The team ai has some serious issues on rusted belt. They get stuck on so many of the doors 🚪

[cloud tree]

Dude these enemy AIs got aimbot bruh

[desert island]

they r bots that aim

[vagrant rover]

Gotta love when they go full auto too, they turn stupid in a second to win that firefight lmao

[delicate grail]

Do we have a consensus on what is the hardest mission in the gaem?
Especially on hard mode

[vagrant rover]

Greased Palms. It just feels like pulling teeth without numbing agent everytime I play it lmao

[peak coyote]

I concur

[wraith gale]

greased palms is fun

everyone's gangster until SWAT AI kills agent adams when he moves to the right slightly too fast

[placid slate]

I can't find any of the bombs in Elephant mission 😭

[wraith gale]

just look for a black box, either in a science room, or near a staircase from what ive seen

beep beep boop boop beep bop boop beep

[dire arrow]

Will multiplayer be playable on console anytime soon?

[wraith gale]

wanna know something funny?

[dire arrow]

Entertain me

[vagrant rover]

What do you mean? Like that original PVP mode that was a thing?

[wraith gale]

it already is playable

i LITERALLY just logged off of MP on my PS

[dire arrow]

Yeah it’s almost like constant crashes make it a shit experience though. All of my friends are still having issues we’re on Xbox.

[wraith gale]

theres your problem right there.... XBOX

[dire arrow]

Right…

[lavish trellis]

Do AI ever run out of ammo like we do?

[placid slate]

I have, can't find anything, I just failed the mission I searched everywhere lol

[wraith gale]

my xbox friends are having 0
issues... i just played the whole fuckin campaign with them, and 0 issues

[cold lake]

Nothing wrong with ready or not in ba sing se

[dire arrow]

Share some of your luck homie lol

[wraith gale]

i wish i had luck fr

[dire arrow]

After like 2-3 restarts it works for a little and then we back to crashing man

[lavish trellis]

I have zero issue playing with my ps5 friend.

[dire arrow]

Fuckkk me I guess. I hope a patch comes out soon

[rustic urchin]

Everyone has different experiences bro i get framedrops everytime i shoot or some ai shoots but my friends game is fine

and some people flatout keep on crashing

[dire arrow]

Throw it back in the oven for a bit.. lmao

[honest pasture]

why do the swat AI just stop collecting evidence

im trying to get S rank and they are refusing to collect the last bit and i do not know where it is

[rustic urchin]

Let them come to you and when they've moved rooms and areas for a bit let them search n secure again

Sometimes they get stuck like that n refuse to move

[vagrant rover]

Pretty sure they don't. I've seen them dump mag after mag and reload fast as ass.

[rustic urchin]

Or mayb u missed a soft objective or smth

[honest pasture]

its port hokan, ive reportted the laptop, the container of women and guns

and arrested all suspects and civvies

[rustic urchin]

So only the guns

Bro that map was hell with the evidence first time i remember some of em got stuck on this one truck tryna carry the suspects

[honest pasture]

annoying thing is all the suspects are gone because trailers came and got them

[rustic urchin]

Idk man try moving them around to your location and then let them search again

That worked for me

[delicate grail]

I saw a teamate execute a civilian so i executed them
was i justified?

[lavish trellis]

After tieing up a civilian what's the point of giving me the option to carry amd move the civilian? When I first got the game i thought I was supposed to carry them to the outside van at the gas station.

[rustic urchin]

I usually use this feature to throw them in a safer room when danger is nearby

Cuz i dont want em catching strays

[peak coyote]

To make them safer

[rustic urchin]

Its faster than ordering them around

[inner moth]

Is it just me or do some of us miss judge's old voice?

Like the voice from early access version.

[chilly thorn]

It was iconic but the new judge is way better.

[inner moth]

Yes new is better but i do miss it if that makes sense?

Like watching old videos of footage makes me miss that voice lol

[honest jetty]

kill maria lopez

[shy shell]

Has anyone else noticed the blue cardboard cutout in the shooting range?

[proud hedge]

no

[delicate grail]

They killed an innocent.

[honest jetty]

no

fuck the civs

[old topaz]

no

[shy shell]

And you killed them, which is -200 points for team kill

[delicate grail]

its not about the points
its about doing whats right.
It wasnt even an accident it was a whole execution

[shy shell]

Plus the dead civilian and the mission rating is fucked either way

[delicate grail]

well, maybe consider it a lesson

[old topaz]

ever heard of court?

[shy shell]

I don’t kill civs dawg

[desert island]

i kill civs like dawgs

[delicate grail]

well the AI swat kills you if you kill a Civvie
so consider me doing what was expected of me

[honest jetty]

this guy is fun at partys

[shy shell]

“There are two types of Ready or Not players”

[old topaz]

no they dont, u have to do it alot

[delicate grail]

i did what i felt was best in bringing justice to Los Suenos.

[old topaz]

good job

[honest jetty]

they say they arent looking for more body bags no more body bags

[shy shell]

Wouldn’t it be logical to treat a rogue officer like a suspect?

As in yell for compliance before dropping them

[desert island]

they kill u if u kill a surrendered person

[old topaz]

not 1

[old topaz]

true true

[honest jetty]

i stand for executing civillians in this game they think they are above the world against a shotgun

[shy shell]

Also killing certain civilians is justified

Like the Carriers of the vine

[honest jetty]

they think its smart to pull out your wallet as fast as they can so they dont waste the officers time

[shy shell]

Or their phone

Also is it bad that my average shots per mission is 0?

[buoyant pecan]

Carriers of the Vine did nothing wrong 😎

(Ok maybe a couple things wrong but)

[shy shell]

“I can’t wait to see you die”
The humble Glock 19 in my holster:

[north kraken]

Hey does it matter if you vote to end for the Ironman achievement?

[buoyant pecan]

Kinda want more glocks in the game

[north kraken]

There’s a Glock switch in the files I think that’s been found for rn

[shy shell]

I definitely want a Glock 17 or something like that

[noble pasture]

Glock in my rari

[buoyant pecan]

17 shots no 38

[shy shell]

I do wish there was a tan Glock for my multicam outfit

[honest jetty]

i want a dessert eagle

[finite heron]

Bro all my teammates are in crisis rn

[grave helm]

Is voice chat still not working

[noble pasture]

Is it 2008?

[honest jetty]

send them to the gas station

[grave helm]

I only hear the togglin

[finite heron]

Huh

[buoyant pecan]

Gimme one of those fuck-off big revolvers that’ll break your wrist when you fire it and blow a baseball-sized hole through a suspect

[north kraken]

Who’s done Ironman that’s in here rn?

[shy shell]

We technically got one

[honest jetty]

you dont need doc you just need to repeat gas station until they are content

[finite heron]

K

[honest jetty]

the real thing

[finite heron]

Thanks

[shy shell]

I doubt they let LAPD SWAT use a deagle

[buoyant pecan]

I want a uzi and tec-9
It would be cool to use some
of the suspect-exclusive weapons

[desert island]

MCX is meh

[shy shell]

I like the LVAR more

[buoyant pecan]

I kinda want some more 80s-early 2000s era weapons

[north kraken]

Does anyone know if it’s matter of you vote to end the mission if your on a Ironman run?

[hollow wedge]

Anyone wanna play ?

[buoyant pecan]

Also G36 with the top rail pls

[shy shell]

Ngl I wish they gave the M45 an extended mag

It feels really impractical to bring compared to the USP

[honest jetty]

the lapd was boring from the start they care about old as hell cars

[ionic gale]

The M45A1 was like the last M1911 based gun to ever get a contract in the US military

It was a special pistol that was made for the US Marine’s MARSOC units

[rustic urchin]

Hey man lar grizzly is badass too

A 1911 style chambered in 50 is a dream come true for 1911 lovers

[shy shell]

I love bringing along an M45, but I don’t use it much

[ionic gale]

Has badass snake grips, tan Cerakote finish in tan…

Match grade barrel along with an accessory rail for optics and such

[honest jetty]

i like the split white and black..

[ionic gale]

The weather looks very cool, but not really all that viable mainly due to its magazine size

[shy shell]

I like the 1911 as well

The iron sights feel nice, and I like the black

[rustic urchin]

I dont like its low mag capacity tho bro we could use some 2011s too

[honest jetty]

it just doesnt hit the same as deagle..

[desert island]

ARN180 might be da best rifle

cuz it has .300 recoil, but lets u use the sfmb break

[ionic gale]

I’m pretty sure that the 2011 is coming at some point

[rustic urchin]

Good

[ionic gale]

LAPD’s SWAT are like the most prominent users of Staccato 2011s

[shy shell]

I like the MCX for the low recoil and decent sized barrel

[honest jetty]

Waa i want my big recoil but cool as hell pistol

[ionic gale]

The MCX is my main rifle too