👮ron-discussion

[paper herald]

does it crash

[halcyon sorrel]

Yup

I guess I'm unlucky then

Whenever I hit a suspect, my game has a chance to crash

[ripe atlas]

Guys

For the Home invasion DLC, does everyone in the squad need the DLC Or just the host.

[jolly verge]

Only host

[tough edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQj1loCn7t0

embed fail?

[paper herald]

150 gb of patches didnt fix the death freeze

[pine quest]

Is home invasion worth it?

[swift vector]

Yes

[pine quest]

Its pretty cheap aswel

[swift vector]

The maps story urban warfare

[swift vector]

You get fucking urban warfare what else does 1 want just straight up house to house

[pine quest]

Im buying it

Do you have any idea why steam does not accept my mastercard anymore?

i just get an error when i try to buy with it

[tough edge]

the cartel when you secretly work for los suenos police department:

[stoic vortex]

how to get A?

[bitter mason]

dont kill every suspect

the more arrests you get the better the grade
arresting everyone and completing all objectives and soft objectives gets you an S

[stoic vortex]

new question

how to get A in port?

[dense quest]

I mean same answer

You can get easy arrests in a few of the closed spaces using nades and c2

Mirror gun is your friend for that

[twilit vault]

The all content of ron

Its blow your pc every time once you get the update

[exotic linden]

Nanite depends on temporal upscaling. Unreal Engine promotes temporal solutions or stuff like transparencies, shadows and global illumination may not work. It's been proven recently that it's just cheap lazy shortcuts to optimize a bad game. TAA is a massive plague in modern gaming, black myth wukong uses a sharpening filter to mask it. We have the solutions to fix these issues but upscalers depend on TAA tech. @stone stump

Sure, it is a bit dramatic of me however it's extremely important so we are aware and not incentivized towards higher resolutions when TAA is the issue.

Companies dropping proprietary engines in favour of UE5 is pretty sad because this allows Nvidia to push their upscaling and frame generation trash further when we shouldn't need to depend on such tech in modern videogames

Threat Interactive explains it all and it's just sad to see the direction we are heading towards and how much GPU power is actually wasted

[bitter mason]

same answer get arrests
Use grenades, less lethals whatever

[stoic vortex]

must i have no officers down?

[dense quest]

Yeah I think you lose a lot of points if an officer is down

[frail pier]

No you can get S even with officers dead. Report the body and gun.

[dense quest]

Oh you don't lose points for it? Interesting

[jolly verge]

It's possible only in multiplayer, in singleplayer you lose 100 points for 1 officer down

[vale zinc]

does ready or not have any like refrences in it?

[frail pier]

Oh fuck I never play with AI lol I thought that applied to them as well. My bad

Kinda weird as they're more likely to die to stupid shit than someone in MP.

[inner slate]

Im not sure

[stone bay]

how the hell did I finish a mission with a E when I did every objective 💀

Stupid ass postal service map

somehow got D on elephant too after doing every objective

[bitter mason]

bro how many penalties did you get lmao

[amber dock]

Cause their Ai, they can’t consider every possibility while a real player has the capacity to make decisions that won’t cause them death

[stone bay]

yeah thats the problem, no penalties

and for some reason my meth house keeps being stuck at unresolved no matter how many times i clear it

[frail pier]

Even more reason why it wouldn't make sense to not have that for the AI lol.

[stone bay]

the Ai is broken anyway, they have eagle sight on certain maps, even wallhacks sometime

[frail pier]

But also clear a room backwards :/ straight up don't listen or ignore threats just to get shot to shit.

[amber dock]

True, so that’s why just leave the boys at spawn and do mission in your own.

[frail pier]

At that point why even play with them? You can load in without swat AI.

[amber dock]

Cause I maybe I want to do commander mode

[stone bay]

useful meat shields

[frail pier]

For what the achievement?

[stone bay]

I play commander mode because I have no friends

Better to have some robot die for me too

[bitter mason]

I like commanding the bots around, they can be useful

they just need some improvements to their consistency and common sense

[stone bay]

cue my guys standing infront of an open doorway only to get shot at and die without shooting a single bullet back

[vale zinc]

I've played most the levels and honestly am surprised i haven't found a nod to Se7en or Silence of the lambs, this feels like THE game you would find a Se7en reference in, i would be surprised if we got a asylum without a Hannibal lecter refrence

[bitter mason]

recent updates may have made them worse than they were tbh
but they were always pretty buggy

[stone bay]

well they have saved me alot of time with the search and secure function so pros and cons i guess

[bitter mason]

yea

[stone bay]

also the amount of times they set off traps

[jolly verge]

they still cant die from traps in commander mode btw

[stone bay]

they can... what do you mean?

[jolly verge]

on mission yes, but after mission they will be alive

[stone bay]

oh yeah

[uneven siren]

man game runs like piss all the sudden
CPU Ryzen 5 3600
GPU RTX 3060 Ti
16gb DDR4 3200
game installed on NVME gen 4 SSD
all graphics option on either high or epic will have about the same FPS in brisa cove

[covert furnace]

I haven’t really had any issues with the ai swat being terrible at combat, they sometimes do the weird thing where I tell them to stack up and breach a door and they send one guy to the door, and the other three go for a jog around the whole map before eventually coming back to the door, or another door that enters the same room, guess that goes to show their inconsistency partly

Managed to get through hermit just fine in the last month

Unless you’re talking about the just released patch, haven’t touched that yet

[stone bay]

yeah its normal, im running epic settings with a 5600 and 3070 and 32gb of ram and i have gotten places where i got like 40 fps

its more of the open areas and also sometimes when you have the cam open

sad they removed killhouse

[uneven siren]

what settings should i use tho

[void frigate]

who knows, the mission "wine carriers" was fixed?

[jolly verge]

what supposed to be fixed on it?

[void frigate]

couldn't find a character there for the task(srry for my English)

[jolly verge]

Raskin? Mod issue, not a bug

[void frigate]

Um?
I never played with any mods

[jolly verge]

You did completed bring order to chaos before?

[void frigate]

Yes I do

[jolly verge]

If so you either did not cuff her while she incapacitated or you have mod that prevent her to spawn

start game in safemode and try again

[void frigate]

Ok

[void frigate]

thank you, I finally passed this mission after.... 30+ days

[twilit vault]

Update : spawn the bug that the player has too many fps

it’s very obvious when you use dlss generation

[uneven siren]

wat

[stone stump]

how does one optimize a bug?

[frail pier]

I'm trying to decipher this as well🫥

[twilit vault]

This is a satire that their update has led to a decrease in the players’s FPS

[stone stump]

is the broken english also satire?

[twilit vault]

.

Ops.i didn’t notice about keyboard issues

Missed a few words.

[stone bay]

100% we need a shut up button god damn civis cant shut up

[frigid shell]

My game just froze again. Guess it wasn’t fixed yet after all

And I answered my own question. The only reason I got unauthorized use of force with the human shield was bc I shot through civ with the pepperball

[errant flint]

anyone else here cant launch the game (black screen)? It was fine yesterday

[frigid shell]

It froze twice lol I was almost winning

[bitter mason]

when are they gonna fix one of your ai teams losing all of their flashbangs when you have barely used them

[frigid shell]

I also encountered a glitch where the gun seemingly fell out of the map

Funny thing is I didn’t encounter bugs after the update yesterday but today suddenly I’m encountering more. Did this update fix the game much yet or what?

[wispy cypress]

old sht

there are two types of players

1. doesn't care about bugs before patches or updates, then after patches he finds out many broken stuff.
2. knows old bugs, after patch he finds some fixes, yet still some new bugs

[frigid shell]

Well, I’ve always encountered bugs before it lol

[bitter mason]

guns falling through the map has been an issue since early access

[frigid shell]

It’s crazy how this is my first time encountering it then

[bitter mason]

its not too common

I havent ran into it as much
it would happen a lot in the tunnels in twisted nerve or in the storefront of thank you come again in my experience

[frigid shell]

It happened on Relapse

[bitter mason]

Havent played that level much personally
but doesnt surprise me tbh

[golden schooner]

is there a way to turn off gas mask overlay? i dont have great vision and it really makes it difficult for me to see

[heavy igloo]

Guys, tell me! Why do I start playing the game, everything is fine, and then when I open the door or there is a shootout, the game just freezes and that's it!

[frigid shell]

That’s literally when my game freezes

[bitter mason]

I think theres a mod for that

[heavy igloo]

You too?

[bitter mason]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/4229

[golden schooner]

thank you so much mate!

[acoustic ridge]

do suspects and civilians actually hide in closest and stuff
i have never seen it before

[bitter mason]

with vanilla AI I've only seen suspects hide under some beds on meth

And it was always one of the last few suspects running away to the opposite house to hide under the bed of a room I already cleared

[dense quest]

bro literally every run on meth takes me like an hour because of that

[pure blaze]

I genuinely think it broke after a hotfix or something because i saw ppl hide in closets a couple times on home invasion update but havent seen it ever since

Unless its just that rare for everyone other than the crackheads

[errant flint]

btw is there any way to open closets? i saw my AI squad do ti but there was no indicator for opening them

[shy tulip]

Yes, just look at the door and press F like the rest

by the handle

[brittle creek]

I wish you didn't need to like, scare the hell out of suspects with like, a flash or something just to get them to surrender. If I saw 5 guys wielding assault rifles kick a door down and yell "DROP THE WEAPON", I'm dropping that thing so goddamm fast.

[shy tulip]

Nah I'd win

[brittle creek]

Or like, when you gas them, and they start coughing, and for some ungodly reason, even though the five of you have literally surrounded the guy, he thinks he still has a chance and starts blasting.

Or when you've blasted them 3 times and they're stunned, barely able to hold a gun, but still shoot back.

[errant flint]

they are so dedicated to their cause they lost the sense of life preservation

[errant flint]

game launches in safe mode so did this update break mods? Everything i had was fine yesterday

[stable kernel]

What mods do you have?

[errant flint]

wait a sec i need to check something becuase its 99% my fault

[leaden finch]

ttachemnt mod dosent show up in MP

[errant flint]

Can i ping you on media? Cant send a screenshot here

[stable kernel]

Yes

[warm sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/sonichu-render-animation-weird-sonic-gif-16002394

[golden falcon]

whats that AI coop mod called?

[halcyon sorrel]

Any fix for the random hard freezing problem that's been happening since home invasion came out?

[shy tulip]

Bro replied to a 4 month old message

[dense quest]

spawn police, I think

[golden falcon]

search function 🙌

[golden falcon]

thanks man

[leaden finch]

how come when i host a game as soon as anyone join they get kikked but when i join, its alll good

[native raft]

just had a question about hardware specs i check my specs and it said my vram wasnt enough do i need to worry or no

[fossil bone]

Valley still running like poopeedoodoo for y'all?

Shit doesnt break 70 and averages like 50

[toxic palm]

ill test now since there was also a patch

[sweet wolf]

Relapse hurts

30 minutes of your time to just explode

[fossil bone]

Got to the basement area of the main house, where it leads you into the porn room or the kitchen, and it completely froze my computer

There is a memory leak or something going on with that map

I'm running a 2070 super and an i5-8600k oc'd

Absolutely something wrong with Valley

[acoustic ridge]

run thru it faster, the bombs are on a time limit

[teal nexus]

i hate looking at my holster because everytime i see it my gun is clipping through it

[teal nexus]

the countless time i put on relapse during the beta makes it so much better than blind running

[toxic palm]

its running better than before for me

[umbral oar]

30 minutes is way too much wtf

[dense quest]

if you take your time clearing relapse you're not really playing the mission the way it's meant to be played

it's an active shooting get your ass in there and clear rooms quickly you got civilians to save

[tacit gull]

except it really isn't since the suspects happily chill with the civilians

[dense quest]

that's true, astral's mod completely changed that however

they killed like 10 civilians by the time I cleared it all and I moved quickly

[amber dock]

If they ever add back active shooter as dedicated mode and actually make Ai behave like that, they need to add back sprint to some degree or add faster movement in some way

[tacit gull]

Active shooter won't ever work with the game's current ranking system, no matter how fast you can go

[dense quest]

astral's was supposed to not deduct score for civilians killed but it still did idk why

[amber dock]

That's what I mean, if they ever add a dedicated active shooter mode the entire ranking and movement system needs to be reworked

[tacit gull]

I think the whole point of active shooter SHOULD be that you can't save everyone

[dense quest]

it was a really cool experience but my ai team completely ruined the immersion by handcuffing dead civilians

luckily I found a mod that stops them from doing that

[tacit gull]

I don't think sprint is coming back, the whole game is basically now designed after your inability to sprint, so the maps are way tighter

[amber dock]

sigh

[tacit gull]

It's not designed well, but i'm pretty sure that's the point behind it

[bitter mason]

god I fucking hate relapse
sorry have to get it out of my system

[astral warren]

Is it just me or has this new patch reactivated the AI's Tarkov mode where they shoot everything except your armour?

Literally the 1st time I am shot at and struck I end up with at least 2 of 4 limbs hit, and I don't hear the ceramic "THONK" noise at all while I'm being shot.

[bitter mason]

made the mistake of trying to play it, got sick of it by the second building and quit
idk what it is but that level just is so ass

[woeful glade]

23 megabytes?

[amber dock]

No 24

[astral warren]

I have also had instances where ALL 4 of my limbs are struck one round after another. Shot 1, left arm. Shot 2, right arm. Shot 3, left leg. Shot 4, right leg. Like, what the fuck is that shit?

[woeful glade]

Every mission I go alone I end like a tomato

[orchid escarp]

anyone wanna run a few missions?

[crude prism]

leg meta is real

[leaden finch]

the propaganda mod map wont load and when i check task manager it says RON not responding

can some one explain to me why it wont work?

[bitter mason]

Its probably generating world data
Give it time

[leaden finch]

i gave it like 25 min

[teal nexus]

Take a nap

[covert furnace]

It’s okay man addiction is hard you’ll get through it

[half edge]

Is it updated for the recent RoN patch?

[lunar birch]

holy fucking shit i just started the home invasion dlc

and theres a naked man and a dead dog just 20 minutes in

[leaden finch]

idk

[half edge]

then check, brotha

[mellow valve]

duh

[frail quartz]

I can't really think of any way we could design the maps around sprinting whilst also encouraging the player to not sprint too much

Unless you're backtracking through an area you've already cleared or dashing behind cover, the game wants you to have your weapon raised at all times

[acoustic ridge]

i cant check rn, can u tell swat ai to "deploy m320" on a civillian/suspect
im curious if you can order swat ai to shoot someone in the face with a grenade launcher

[shy tulip]

Last I remember seeing the deploy menu when looking at a civ, that was not on the list

[mellow valve]

Open angles

Run into an open room with too many angles to clear? Dead.

Clear it methodically by slicing and using individual commands? Might just work dandy.

[frail quartz]

I still don't really see how this is any different from the current maps aside from a few longer hallways

[full shore]

This is true. I'm pretty much always ADS

[fierce ruin]

does ready or not have a road map?

[frigid shell]

What traits are recommended for Relapse on S

[jolly verge]

2 negotiators and 1 pacifier for every mission for S

[frigid shell]

Got it, what about a nutritionist or an armorer trait for the fourth one?

[jolly verge]

armorer with ceramic plates would be better

[frigid shell]

For sure, I always use light ceramic plates

[stone bay]

Is the DLC worth the price? Just finished the "campaign" and would like more maps

[stone bay]

Honestly I just use whatever, and then if I feel like it I just go full Heavy Armor with Steel
But normally I go with a pretty mundane and average low budget police setup

[prime wing]

you can join other people and play them for free

as long as the host owns the dlc

[stone bay]

unfortunately im from asia and there doesnt seem to be a community (at all) for RoN

[wind quarry]

what button do I press to like chat with people? not talk

[stone bay]

Also props to void for not making the DLC stupidly overpriced

[twilit vault]

Yes, because of the prices of the dlc is so cheap

But I don’t agree with the UE5 updates

[tacit gull]

First thing that comes to mind is squad's ICO, where a decent sprint will make you almost unable to hit someone even point blank

[waxen grove]

Yeah it was quite reasonably priced

[stone stump]

#alt-languages-old

[proven pond]

btw I feel in game fonts and UI is too cheaply designed. it needs retouch

[waxen grove]

I haven’t gotten that feel. I have some gripes with the ui especially the loadout selection and gun modification screens.

[urban walrus]

This is the only one, but it's not accurate anymore #announcements message

[tough edge]

I wonder if we could possibly get super evil with ron, kill some civllians and then proceed to kill your own team which tried killing you because you.. killed a civillian.

[sweet palm]

Man, cant belive the streamer is a pdf file

[buoyant quiver]

I haven't gotten a single fake surrender since the 1.0 update I think. Is that no longer a thing? I just remembered it used to be a thing before... Same with druggies with knifes... where did they all go?

[topaz sorrel]

shooting people wearing plates center-mass with 5.56...
real life:
in ron: 🫤

[amber dock]

It’s gotten more rare, now they pull out pistols instead on most maps. To have highest odds of it occurring you simply have to stare at them and wait. That’s it.

[buoyant quiver]

They used to surrender and then immediately pull out a gun. Hasn't happened since 1.0.

[amber dock]

It deffo can happen still just insanely rare. But if you put like 3 suspects together and don’t cuff them one of them will still likely pull something on you

[topaz sorrel]

might be map-dependant
i'm running hide and seek right now and it happens at least once per restart

[tawny fox]

can someone explain the psycology of not surrendering when u have taken two shots to the torso and have a gun barrel staring down your face 😭😭😭

[amber dock]

realism 🤓

[gritty vessel]

Is there a way to minimize the glare on Narcos?

Because I cant see like anything when facing the sun even a little bit

[tawny fox]

it was objective guy aswell shot twice and sprays me down, man i love ron

[bitter mason]

something something adrenaline drugs something something realistic something something
whatever excuse ppl come up with

[frozen lintel]

Is it just me or are the Swat AI bugging out on every door as in only one clears the room by themself getting shredded by gunfire or they toss a tactical and then don't clear the room staring at the door . They work if you give them the command again "Usually" but this is happening on almost every map & multiple doors/rooms I've been noticing since the latest patch

[topaz sorrel]

i can say that it's happened for me, but i can't say it's common

[bitter mason]

it does tend to happen fairly frequently but not all the time

[frozen lintel]

I am in Ironman mode

shouldn't matter tho right

[bitter mason]

maybe more than before but idk. Majority of breaches work fine
but yeah the fact it happens at all is terrible

[frozen lintel]

yes when your getting shot and your team doesn't respond and you have to redo the entire order in under 4 seconds before you die

[topaz sorrel]

are you having them stack up, then breaching, as seperate commands?

[topaz sorrel]

what the fuck

i just got a perfect score on hide and seek... and it's a B???

[native rune]

Killing people gives you less score

Dealing with 12/12 suspects by arresting them will net you more points than dealing with 12/12 suspects by killing them for example.

[topaz sorrel]

i assumed i only had to nonlethal for S

[frozen lintel]

sometimes yes

Honestly there is a lot of bugs I've been noticing love this game to death I'm just playing the game in the worst possible setting

[topaz sorrel]

same

no matter how fun it is, it always finds a way to piss me off or bug out

[frozen lintel]

yeah man

i have seen my AI walk by themselves in a room and get mutilated by 7.62 so many times just in the few hours after the latest patch

[topaz sorrel]

i know it's the "wrong" way to play the game, but that kind of behavior from the AI has taught me to just leave them in "follow me" mode, effectively just using them as mobile turrets

and in general i try to avoid playing solo

[frozen lintel]

yes same just on my back while i clear all the rooms first myself

[pearl shuttle]

Yeah like they work better than they did in EA but it seems like the game fails to process commands more often than ever

[dense sky]

Sorry for going offtopic here but am I the only one who HATES S rank to the core ? I just want all the achievements but why the hell am I being "forced" (for the achievements) to be non-lethal towards people who are actively magdumping me with drum fed assault rifles ? I've spent good 4 hours trying to get narcos on S and it's just RNG. I don't really see anything else to it.

[dense quest]

Oh is that the cause?

I unfortunately do that often (and I encounter that bug often too) 🙃

[topaz sorrel]

don't know, was just trying to troubleshoot. i know that i tell them two orders separately and rarely have that particular issue

[full thistle]

is there anyone looking for someone to help with missions?

[full shore]

I'm on the same boat as you. S rank is just an arcade challenge that is reliant on RNG

[tacit gull]

There's only 1 or 2 levels that are truly reliant on RNG, otherwise is just open door, peek, taser, you win haha

If anything S rank is just tedious and kinda makes the game's problems rear their ugly head

[dense sky]

True. I guess. I've got the S rank on 12 levels so far and I've just been trying for like the past 4 hours to get an S on narcos and it's been nothing but a headache. One wrong turn and I'm meeting an enemy that is unkillable due to my guns shooting peas at them...

[full shore]

If non lethals were removed from the game, then S rank would be a lot more interesting

[dense sky]

I know that there was a time when incapacitated suspects didn't count as "killed" and you could get an S by just incapacitating them with lethal weapons. But I think that's no longer the case.

[tacit gull]

It might be that the beanbag has ridiculous bullet travel or something, i still haven't figured out why sometimes the bullets miss when they move
Suspects do have some ridiculous holes in their hitboxes so that might add to it, it's best to catch them off guard and aim center mass

[full shore]

The maps are too big for an S rank run without non lethals. Since you'll have to rely on breaching and flashbangs

But then you're back to gaming the scoring system

[exotic zenith]

Is there any preview for a hotfix for the scopes crosshair? This is really getting to me having to start the game into a lower resolution and apply lossless scaling to get the desired Resolution Scaling without having the scopes with no crosshair...

[full shore]

Nope. Scopes have been broken since the beginning

[dense sky]

I have no clue, but I've had cases where I was like 90% sure that I hit the guy with a beanbag just for him to magdump my head.. 🤷‍♂️ Also like when shooting someone with a pepperball I find it weird that they don't react to it at all, unless you literally spray like 5 of them at the person.

[tacit gull]

I've found pepperball kinda useless, it's way too inconsistent to use with direct impact and those pepper clouds it spawns barely function

[exotic zenith]

IF you can catch them off guard that is. Let's not forget it can still track you behind walls.

[tacit gull]

I only issue them to my swat ai so they don't fuck my entire run with a cool little headshot

[crude prism]

the beanbag and pepperball are the only two primary weapons in the game that shoot actual projectiles, and the beanbags are slow

[exotic zenith]

Define begining. Because I'm preety sure 1.0 up to Hotfix 2 they were somewhat usable. Now it's just a amplifier with any resolution scale that isn't 100%

[tacit gull]

I've done most maps in S by just walking up to people and tasing them then waiting for the scripted suspect to ruah me at the end

[crude prism]

scopes are and have been misaligned for years, they STILL don't shoot into the center of the reticle, it's NOT a height over bore issue

[dense sky]

True but when you miss a beanbag you have to wait a lot longer before shooting again. Idk...

[exotic zenith]

I'm talking about this https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1275926991605862491

[tacit gull]

Yeah, but hitting it is a guaranteed surrender

[dense sky]

The others are hitscan ?

Never noticed

[tacit gull]

Doesn't matter though since the taser outphases both of them, beanbag is more of a gun that you use for port or ridiculous long range shots

[exotic zenith]

Pepper seems to be working for me when I do four shots against a target, Anything less in unpredictable.

That or Beanbag really...

[dense sky]

I almost never use it.

[tacit gull]

2 shots, silent, instant surrender, etc.

easily the most powerful weapon in the game

[dense sky]

Isn't it like a really close distance only ?

[full shore]

Since the beta. Not sure what it was like in alpha

[exotic zenith]

#👮ron-discussion message

[crude prism]

40mm launchers/beanbag/pepperball/pepperspray are not hitscan, everything else is

[tacit gull]

Nope, you can shoot it across the entirety of dorms and it will hit

[dense sky]

lmao what

[full shore]

Oh I see.. that's interesting lol

[crude prism]

this is WILD lmao, changing scaling just makes the reticle go bye bye

[tacit gull]

dead serious

[exotic zenith]

VOID probably programmed as "touch, then effect" and didn't put in consideration distance

[tacit gull]

just dont use it as a client in multiplayer since it is actually unusable

none of your shots will ever connect

[crude prism]

multiplayer hitreg moment

[exotic zenith]

Also all weapons besides beanbag and pepper are hitscan. That's why you and the AI can just snipe you with anything

[acoustic ridge]

m320 stinger is good for s rank, its taser aoe
if 5 people run m320 u get 20 suspects that u can arrest garunteed without missing

[dense sky]

SO THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS SO CLOSE RANGE

[exotic zenith]

There's a damage falloff value, but no actual projectile falloff.

[tacit gull]

Yeah, no the taser is good enough to be a DMR

In multi you could be shoving it in someone's mouth and they wont react

[dense sky]

Fair enough. I'll probably try narcos S rank with taser later tonight.

[tacit gull]

just use the laser and point aim it

every taser slot you buy gives you 6 shots

(6 arrests minus the one or two you miss)

[acoustic ridge]

i did narcos s rank duo no swat ai with m320 and a few taser shots

[dense sky]

And the enemy spawn is fixed or is it random ? Like if I spawn to narcos 10 times will there be always the same amount of enemies ?

[acoustic ridge]

m320 is pretty much taser with aoe, very hard to miss with

[exotic zenith]

Preety sure it's randomized, tho there's patterns I believe.

[dense sky]

Idk I kept seeing one enemy in particular in the same spot almost every game. Maybe just a coincidence tho.

[acoustic ridge]

narcos has somewhere around 9-12 suspects

usually theres atleast 1 or 2 in same house as informant

[tacit gull]

It's not, spawns are mostly the same

Once you played the map once or twice you can predict where everyone is gonna be mostly

Unless the enemies start roaming

[crude prism]

RoN maps just aren't that big, there's a lot of variation in spawn position, but the suspects also roam. Where you find someone is basically just RNG

(minus specific HVTs)

[tacit gull]

I do feel like suspect spawns should maybe spawn zones instead of points

[crude prism]

I mean they do that with the spawn grouping system

[tacit gull]

Since a lot of the time you will find a suspect sitting on the exact same spot he was in the last playthrough

[crude prism]

🤷 you'd need a real data set, but imo the randomization is good and fine, when there's 16 enemies on Voll for example, you're gonna find one in basically each room lul

but at the same time, I've had runs where there's not a single person is on the top floor, and it just biased hard to the other ones

[dense sky]

I mean the unpredictability is fine, unless I'm doing an S rank run.. lmao

[crude prism]

[tacit gull]

You (almost) always have that guy in front of the first house in narcos, one roamer and that guy hiding in the laundry room in ides, those two assholes sitting on top of the spider, you always have the 3 guards on top of voll's house.
Even if they don't spawn necessarily it makes checking rooms trivial since you basically know the exact angle most of the time

[full shore]

The first house in narcos is designed so well for an ambush but it's always empty. What a waste of house smh

The angles in that house are sexy 😭

[crude prism]

The entire Narcos map is designed for the AI to murder you through windows/foliage/fencing you have no chance of seeing and fighting through

[tacit gull]

Yet for some reason they rarely do, i don't see why the ai doesn't hold the windows more

[dense sky]

And for that one part where you're literally against the sun and see jack shit.

[crude prism]

that's what I'm SAYING

[full shore]

That's real tactics used for ambushing. RoN devs going hard

[tacit gull]

That's also a bit of a problem with narcos, since it basically makes clearing from the right side a bad idea

So you're forced to clear the left every time and that does get a lil annoying

[dense sky]

Yeah, I feel like the right side is a lot better, since the angles are better. But the sun is literally against you.

[stone bay]

didnt know that you could kill someone with the beanbag shotgun

[dense sky]

If you hit the head yes.

[tacit gull]

The uncontrollable power of the sun disagrees

[dense sky]

my sunglasis :PPPP (they dont work)

I have literally a pair of sunglasses under a pair of antiflash goggles and I'm still getting blinded by the sun.

[full shore]

Need better glasses

[dense sky]

Need the welding goggles. Like thermite has from R6

[tacit gull]

the old mlo welding goggles 😔

[dense sky]

So what're ya'll rocking for the long tactical ?

for the s runs I mean

[half edge]

Just gotta loop the other way.

[shrewd blade]

anyone know of ron is going to be on sale any time soon one of my friends wants it and i cant find much about there sale schedule

[frigid shell]

Idk tbh they had some before this Summer and I believe when the DLC was released

[urban walrus]

Your best bet would be Winter Sale

[shrewd blade]

hm, alright ill talk to them. that may be too long and he may just buy it full price idk.

[full shore]

Buy full price and play now, or save $8 and play in December 🤔

[shrewd blade]

Fair

[dense sky]

LMAO I DID IT FIRST TRY WITH THE TASER

[dense sky]

tihi

[half edge]

Worth checking CD keys

[umbral oar]

u guys think next dlc will be &10 again

that isn’t a dollar sign oops

[urban walrus]

If it's the same size as DLC 1 then mostly

[umbral oar]

yeah

[winter pendant]

Flashbang launcher. It is the most effective long range option for less lethal. Perfect for parking lots.

The shield is a trap, the gas launcher takes too long, breaching tools are pointless on an S run (except for elephant), and the mirrorgun is not quite useful enough to be better than the launcher

It also frees up some extra slots for gas grenades, which are an effective alternative to the mirror gun.

When doing an AI squad S run, I distribute all of the long tacticals among them. Battering Ram, Shield, Flash Launcher, and Mirror Gun.

I find that giving a ram launcher and clear command is pretty effective, especially if you have a shield officer

Then that leaves the mirror gun for one of your teammates so you can still get some of the benefits while still having a good long-range AoE weapon.

[acoustic ridge]

the ai doesnt know how to reload launchers, i give my swat ai these long tacs;
i give 2 shotguns since if i split the teams i can have them use a breaching tool instead or kicking/lockpicking
blue-shield and shotgun
red-mirror and shotgun

[bitter mason]

suspect takes human shield
Swat AI shoots the civvie because centre mass
Suspect surrenders after civvie is killed
Hostage crisis averted

[stone bay]

How do I do Neon Tomb S-tier? The bomb vest guy at the start doesn't surrender to pepperball guns or stingers?

[bitter mason]

beanbang shotgun I think is generally the better less lethal

they might be really stubborn but you have to get them to surrender somehow

[rugged hollow]

True had the problem with the big hotel map it worked with the bean bag shotty

[astral warren]

Ah, yes, the Russian hostage solution. They cannot have leverage if you kill the hostages yourself.

[jaunty locust]

Is there a key that turns on the flashlights on the shield?

[bitter mason]

no

the shield light isnt functional

[stone bay]

Anyone else getting insta killed on sins of the father? I'm wearing heavy steel armor with full coverage too

[jaunty locust]

what a piece of shit

[acoustic ridge]

bombers dont surrender when you are too close, stand back and they should surrender
they do need a little more encouragement tho

[pure blaze]

I dont think u should go heavy armor unless u have shield tbh

[bitter mason]

ceramic armour is probably better anyways
If you are hit in the armour, kevlar and steel I blieve just reduce the damage, ceramic will completely block it but will break after a number of hits
helmets should be able to take atleast 1 bullet, more from pistol calibres
and the ballistic facemask can take at least 2

[acoustic ridge]

i havent gotten 1 tapped besides a few times from shotguns at pointblank or when the host was using ai mods

[crude prism]

damage is broken at the moment, you take considerably more damage than you are supposed to with steel/kevlar/broken ceramic armor

ONLY wear ceramic

right now you'll get 4 hit from full health with steel

[stone bay]

Oh wild I thought sumn didn't feel right ty

[shrewd oriole]

RoN devs put a lot of effort into quality assurance

[frigid shell]

I got S on all missions!!!

Btw not a big deal but does anyone else have the problem where they can’t see the credits? It shows a black screen with just scroll faster and back buttons visible

[bitter mason]

have never actually watched the credits

[frigid shell]

Next time you play, click credits and see if you have the same problem

I’m seeing bc Idk if it’s a problem with my PC or a problem with the game

[exotic zenith]

.... how
Just
HOOOOOOOOOOOOWW!?!??

[exotic zenith]

Seems the claimed fix for the credits never got in. incredible.

[frigid shell]

Oh so it’s their fault not mine

[frigid shell]

Good thing I always wear ceramic

I used to wear steel but my armor usually doesn’t break anyway since I’m usually shot in the head, arms, or legs

[astral warren]

They goofed and made the damage cap (70) happen AFTER the armour reduction, if applicable. So basically, steel reduces all damage by 70%, so it used to be that you would receive whatever amount of damage, and it would be capped to 70 at the most if it was more then that, and THEN it would be multiplied by 0.3 to get the final number. Now it takes the raw damage amount BEFORE the damage cap, multiplies it by 0.3, and then caps it to 70 IF it's more than that AFTER the armour damage reduction. The end result is ceramic is the only functional armour.

Basically, VOID is really, really, REALLY bad at math.

[exotic zenith]

Oh my god just how. HOW are they breaking something that wasn't even broken before ...

We are already at 1.1.3(If I can call it that) this kind of thing shouldn't even be happening at this stage...

All it wants make me do is to just rollback to previous version and wait. Maybe not even play it, because it's getting frustating to be nailed many times, to them wait for the oh might glorious update to then get more stuff broken that wasn't even borked before. Ah man this is just sad...

[astral warren]

It'll only get worse. Want to know something even funnier? 7.62x39, the SLR-47, and .300blk, are identical in terms of damage, it's just that the SLR-47 has more recoil, and more overpenetration risk. Same with 10mm and .45ACP, 10mm is simply worse.

There is not a single reason to use the SLR-47 or the 10mm MP5 outside of larp, or maybe in the case of the SLR-47 you just really want .300blk damage with the SRO optic.

[acoustic ridge]

how silent is 300blk suppressed compared to 5.56 suppressed ingame

[astral warren]

Not to mention all of the broken attachments and the game just outright lying to your face about attachments increasing muzzle velocity when muzzle velocity doesn't exist as a mechanic in the game.

All suppressed weapons halve stress to suspects by gunshots, regardless of cartridge.

[exotic zenith]

Yeah I was getting dunked on by some security on Mindjot getting headshotted a bunch of times, even through walls. Fault partly mine to be using an AI mod, but it was to improve the AI behavior not to transform then into John Wick. There were a bunch of security staff weilding these SLR47's.

At this point I just don't even know what throw in the game to fix the problem. There is an AI mod that actually changes the damage values for the calibers, but at this point I don't even know if that will work....

[acoustic ridge]

does 5.56 vs 300blk cause more or less stress then?

[exotic zenith]

Neither. V1 said, any caliber supressed reduces stress on everyone

[astral warren]

Read carefully.

Unsupressed guns, every single one, raises stress by 0.1 per shot. Suppressed weapons only raise the stress value by 0.05 per shot.

So you can shoot twice as much before suspects become more alert, effectively.

F90 is very good suppressed because it has low recoil, and it is a bullpup weapon, so it's no longer than most other rifles without muzzle attachments when it has a suppressor.

[acoustic ridge]

what ant the range that your shots are audible and increase stress? irl 300blk is subsonic so it should be quieter than 5.56

i understand that every shot raises stress regardless of caliber/gun unless suppressed

[frigid shell]

On my S run in Hide And Seek, we had one more weapon to secure, but I could not see it. So I pressed search and secure a few times until the officer secured it and I was so relieved because what if it bugged where the weapon fell out of the map?

[exotic zenith]

If it did, then the game gave you the middle finger. Womp womp try again.

[exotic zenith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aancohk3xhU
This videos shows the ranges of anything that can be audible. Now if it is accurate or not then I do not know

Just saying, a yell and a door kick are Louder than a suppressed firearm somehow.

[sturdy smelt]

hey guys whenever i update the game it starts "Installing" again but doesn't ever go up from zero is there a fix

[finite plover]

why is mindjot so dark after the patch lol

[toxic palm]

Very unrealistic, irl 10mm is just 5 times better than 45

[topaz sorrel]

pretty much everything about the guns is wack

[toxic palm]

Theyre serviceable as is to me but in time some touch ups will be welcomed

[scarlet obsidian]

Hey yall. My friend and I are running two different versions of the game. His version is newer than mine but steam isnt telling me that there are any updates. And ideas?

[stable kernel]

Opt out of the supporter alpha branch for the game through steam

[native rune]

Same the background is almost black

[finite plover]

check out the roof, its pitch black

idk why nobody have said anything lmao

[scarlet obsidian]

That did it. Thank you!

[acoustic ridge]

does swat ai have more health than the player

[prime meadow]

is there a way to play without ai in sp?

[umbral oar]

you could host a friends only lobby

[native rune]

Day 29478382 of complaining about my swat AI repeatedly running ahead to cuff and getting magdumped until it gets fixed 🙃

[stable kernel]

A valid complaint unfortunately

[native rune]

“Cuffing…”
gets shot several times, stops
“Cuffing…”
goes back to cuff, dies

God forbid I shoot somebody from around the stairs corner in Sins of the Father, my teammate is gonna run down the stairs, into the giant Dishonor room, drawing fire from 10+ enemies to cuff them

I’d rather have Halo grunts as my backup at this point

[acoustic ridge]

ik thers a mod that disables them collecting evidence but
whenever i play zombies with ai they just go and collect then agro like 15 zombies and get shanked

[native rune]

Yes I use that mod, you can toggle it on and off with a keybind. Problem is it doesn’t stop them from going to collect evidence if they’re already on the way to do it, and also there’s no visual indication that the keybind has been activated, so you need to remember if you have the collection on or off.

[acoustic ridge]

tbh i just want the ai to not secure or arrest unless they are being covered by a teammate or ordered to (orders include search and secure and directy telling them to arrest/secure this)

[stable kernel]

Cover isn't enough with how the ai is

They did not secure weapons or restrain compliants or anything unless ordered to in SWAT 4

[acoustic ridge]

it would help atleast, rn they just run out and cross thresholds for evidence

they really want to be detectives

[indigo gazelle]

Does night vision goggles, which sight you use, or flashlight on weapon affect AI teammates?

[severe oak]

what does "Put em on safe and let them hang"

[acoustic ridge]

no, they dont care
give them ballistic mask and flashlights i guess

[indigo gazelle]

gas mask if using ?

[indigo gazelle]

Put your guns on safe and let your rifles hang by the sling

[acoustic ridge]

APPARENTLY swat ai doesnt care abt cs gas, i havent tested it myself tho

[native rune]

They don’t, no reason to put anything on them except ballistic mask

[jolly verge]

20m for all guns, the only one that does zero sound for suspects is taser

[jolly verge]

yes, but cap damage does not applying for them, so they always take full damage

[acoustic ridge]

so theres no point in using different guns to be stealthier?

[jolly verge]

yeap

[viral mural]

I like it when my squad look like the Combine. Gas masks are intimidating.

[stoic vortex]

imagine RoN map where it's just a cargo ship

VBSS

[halcyon sorrel]

theres probably a map for it

[stoic vortex]

just some map idea i had in mind

[acoustic ridge]

rip there goes my wish to use 300blk suppressed and play ron like a stealth mission

[stone bay]

Is it normal to have crashes on Neon Tomb? Haven't played in a year.

[topaz sorrel]

like, reliable crashes on load-in?

it's normal to have crashes in general, in my experience anyway
if you're having repeated crashes on a certain map, my first guess is to verify your game files

[stone bay]

👍 Alright, cool. Second question, any tips for doing ironman commander mode all the way through? I'm not looking to S-rank, I'll do that in Quick Play or a non-ironman Commander Mode.

[topaz sorrel]

i don't have any experience with ironman, but i'm assuming it's the kind of thing you want to run heavy armor/riot shield/ballistic mask and play very cautiously, right? that's just my first guess

[stone bay]

how do i use replays

[shy tulip]

The replay menu is buggy atm

[stone bay]

alr

[old apex]

Give everyone heavy armor, SA-58, gas everything

and if you don't mind spoiling yourself, look up which maps have booby traps. Good practice is to always mirror gun or peek and nudge the door open with your movement

[stone bay]

I've done every mission up to Port Hokan and I also skipped over Carriers of the Vine. Those two are hard, I remember.

[full thistle]

Counterpoint: my immersion

[full thistle]

Tough indeed but carriers is easy with map planning and port mostly is up to trusting your ai squad and letting them take charge

[frozen lintel]

Developers ruined watch is mine finally

[stone bay]

Hmm, I haven't used map planning once, I'll be honest, just relied on fundamentals and went in blind 😅

[frozen lintel]

the pain is something that cant be explained

[full thistle]

Realll I do at least try to look at while doing the mission once

You need help on port btw?

[frozen lintel]

i can help if needed

[full thistle]

The void giveth and the void taketh

[frozen lintel]

yes my brother

[full thistle]

Same just gotta brush my teeth first

[topaz sorrel]

port is agony

[frozen lintel]

3 hours on port for iron man

[stone bay]

Yeah definitely. Still getting back into the swing of things.

[topaz sorrel]

my friend helped me finally S it today and it took hours

[full thistle]

Okay imma brush teeth then join you, looks like jericho is too

[frozen lintel]

not gonna lie i dont have a middle knuckle from it being cracked against a wall

[full thistle]

There is one container in that map is this... Certainly something

[stone bay]

I'm trying to S-tier all maps, so... it'll be a pain to do Port.

[woeful glade]

Elephant?

[stone bay]

Already done.

[stone bay]

I've got Relapse, Carriers of the Vine, Neon Tomb and Port Hokan.

Everything else is S-tiered, except for the DLC I don't own.

Relapse is mostly a pain because it's massive anda I either run out of ammo or I get complacent and someone dies.

[full thistle]

aight I'm done brushing teeth

ready or not, here I come lmao

[stone bay]

I'm OCE btw, so the ping might be terrible.

Ah wait it's in my name from last time I played RoN, you know that 🤦

[full thistle]

damn okay, I suggest gassing the shit out of everything

[stone bay]

I pretty much forgot how to play and I have to rebuild my loadouts.

[full thistle]

that's cool I'll give you suggestions if you need em once I join

@frozen lintel you still down for it too?

[woeful glade]

Use gas it's very effective

[stone bay]

How much GAS do I need? Haha. It's a big building.

[full thistle]

all the gas

[woeful glade]

I use 5 grenades and the thrower

[full thistle]

I bring like 7 💀

[stone bay]

2 beanbag, 7 gas nades, 2 wedges, plus battering ram, mirror gun and two gas launchers?

[woeful glade]

9 gas we need...

[full thistle]

for relapse? that's likely you'll run out of ammo

[woeful glade]

Just taser rush you know

[full thistle]

@stone bay did you get my friend request btw?

[full thistle]

I personally don't really trust the taser because of how not all suspects react the same way

[woeful glade]

Then just use all the Ammo you can in just 1 dude

[full thistle]

ah so it's like a dice roll each time?

[woeful glade]

Yes

[frozen lintel]

yes im here to help anyone game wise the best i can who needs it

[full thistle]

aight bet

[frozen lintel]

i will help anyone with the game ive beaten the game twice now in ironman have every mission S-tier not trying to sound cocky just have the knowledge to give if anyone needs help with the game just DM me anytime i will respond as fast as i can

[full thistle]

i'm having a bit of trouble inviting you to the group dm can you ask texas for help?

[woeful glade]

The hero

[primal badge]

Anyone think the Mindjot data centre mission is a very boring one? I haven’t finished it yet but I’ve never felt so bored in a RoN mission before lol

[urban tulip]

I just played that one a few hours ago and uploaded for my channel. It's okay but I like the multi floor challenge

[stone bay]

whats the best gun as a rifle?

[indigo gazelle]

Aren't gas masks also bulletproof in this game I heard?

[jolly verge]

It's a helmet that cover whole head, not gasmask itself

[umbral oar]

g36c arn-180 or sa-58

g36c has the lowest recoil of all, arn-180 is the lowest recoil .300 blk (slightly higher damage and armor pen), and sa-58 will 1 tap torso in most maps

[static wigeon]

Sa-58 is the best

[stone bay]

ty

[topaz sorrel]

is the sa-58 the only .308?

[topaz sorrel]

unless it's been changed in the last year (entirely likely), yes, all masks are armor and the ballistic faceplate is useless
i'm going by this video (https://youtu.be/Wkp_kL3SGY0) until someone tells me otherwise

[stone bay]

sa58 is fucking good

[topaz sorrel]

afaik it's the only rifle in the game that acts like a rifle

every other gun has the ballistic properties of a .22lr handgun lol

[tacit gull]

That's not how that works, every helmet that isn't the ballistic facemask has a chance to ricochet bullets and breaks after 1 direct hit

[topaz sorrel]

so it was changed, then

[tacit gull]

I'm pretty sure it just never worked that way

[topaz sorrel]

okay. so the video itself is wrong
it's hard to tell with this stuff since nothing is explained ingame

[tacit gull]

MMMM has a spreadsheet with all of the armor values and how they work

[tacit gull]

yeah well the game isn't really good at making things logical or visually explaining stuff to you in any way

[topaz sorrel]

definitely

[burnt ocean]

idk why but i can only tell the blue duo what to do and not the red one

[topaz sorrel]

scroll wheel with the command menu open

[burnt ocean]

alr thanks

what's the "best" rifle

[topaz sorrel]

sa-58

[umbral oar]

i think its kinda clear, the video just confused everyone

[tacit gull]

It really doesn't matter, all rifles down people in 2 shots to the body

[topaz sorrel]

i've had much better performance against body armor with the 58
it's borderline frustrating, honestly

[tacit gull]

On any body armor that isn't the highest level in the game i don't think it makes a difference

[burnt ocean]

is it worth giving only 1 of my guys a shotgun

[topaz sorrel]

fair

[topaz sorrel]

depends on the map

[tacit gull]

shotguns will usually 1 shot whatever the AI is looking at

[burnt ocean]

the second one, i havent played this game since before release

[topaz sorrel]

if it's indoor, why not all 5 shotguns

[tacit gull]

They're great if you like not taking in anybody alive

[umbral oar]

too bad you need to bring michael alive

[burnt ocean]

how do i change the zoom on the scope

[tacit gull]

you don't

[burnt ocean]

it says 1-12x

[tacit gull]

It sure does

[burnt ocean]

....but its not actually

[tacit gull]

closest you can get is aiming with the elcan backup sight

[burnt ocean]

thats just stupid

[topaz sorrel]

the 1-12x is a joke item lol

[tacit gull]

Rather it's another unfinished part of the game

[burnt ocean]

i was gonna use the closest i could get to my tarky loadout

[tacit gull]

Idk if its fixed but the scopes also dont shoot on target

[burnt ocean]

thats wild

[tacit gull]

So if you want to miss everyone point blank and also miss everyone at long range they're great

[topaz sorrel]

it was in the patch notes lately, not sure if it's what you're thinking of

[burnt ocean]

also why'd they have to use an FDE mount with a black scope 😭

[topaz sorrel]

😔

[primal badge]

Thanks for telling me about your upload, chief! I’m not gonna watch it now because I haven’t finished that mission yet (just wanna avoid spoilers etc), but I’ll see if you have uploaded other missions I’ve already completed 🙂

[prime wing]

it used to be one of the hardest levels

big emphasis on used to

[primal badge]

Omfg you uploaded Ides. That mfing mission took me 7-8 hours and probably 200 tries cause I’m dumb lol. Gonna watch it now boss! 🫡

[dense quest]

I find it easy now after coming up with a specific way to clear it (plus the elevator spawn helped massively)

[leaden finch]

is E a passing grade so i can get the hermit challenge_

?

[jolly verge]

Completing port hokan with all objectives completed, all suspects killed and weapons secured without soft objectives will be enough

[leaden finch]

ok nice

[jolly verge]

you can get F on all other missions, it's does not matter

[leaden finch]

niceeee

i want the icedout watch

[jolly verge]

dev watch? Just make sure no one die/resigned from duty and you good

[leaden finch]

okk

they are stressed rn so i gotta make sure i dont kill more civilans

[jolly verge]

arrest more suspects and it's will heal stress

1 arrested suspect will always offset stress from 1 killed or if you lucky 2

[leaden finch]

how do i enable so i can see my officers names?

[jolly verge]

options > gameplay > hud > show player names

[fervent gale]

How can the "failed to create a session(no connection to steam)" error be resolved?

With a Windows Update as it turns out

[wide trench]

is it better to run a silencer or a muzzle break

[humble lark]

Does anyone know any good uk sign mods?

CT, SAS, SBS, NCA. AFO etc

[trail spire]

relapse is making me regret my life decisions

[bitter mason]

all my homies hate relapse

[trail spire]

omg the swat ai keeps going to a different door to breach and makes the whole team wait

[undone lion]

hyo

new update is 56 gigabytes?

[bitter mason]

no the game is that big, unreal engine patches the whole game when updating.

[undone lion]

ohh oki oki

[long dome]

No Unreal Engine has nothing at all to do with it.

[bitter mason]

ok whenever I hear people bring it up people claim its UE
doesnt change the fact the game entire game gets patched but whatever

[long dome]

No, it's not a fact, and no, it depends.
So many misconceptions lmao

[bitter mason]

k dude

[prime meadow]

how are you supposed to get higher scores if you completed all the objectives?

[tacit gull]

By not killing people

[prime meadow]

aight

max score is not killing anyone and completing all the objectives then?

[tacit gull]

yes

Aswell as packing every gun on the ground

[acoustic ridge]

max score is
-no deaths
-all soft and hard obj
-all guns bagged
-obly 1 officer down
-no penalties

[prime meadow]

not all maps have soft objectives right

[tacit gull]

Yes

[prime meadow]

so you just get automatically get kicked out when youve done every objective?

[tacit gull]

If you got the max score you can with deaths included the game will kick you to the results screen

[prime meadow]

alr ty

[tacit gull]

So if you want the highest score dont press y when asked

[dire vine]

Are there any useful things to know before modding? And do you guys download the mods from in-game or separate mod launcher?

[acoustic ridge]

i download mods from nexus, make sure the mods are all up to date for home invasion

[simple drum]

You can S rank and still have one officer down?

[acoustic ridge]

yes, just report his body and bag his gun and u will be fine

[dire vine]

okay thanks

[stable kernel]

Only in multiplayer

[jolly verge]

Only in multiplayer

[stable kernel]

[jolly verge]

[simple drum]

Ah thanks for the clarification

[cobalt elk]

Have you got a Uniform mod?

[humble lark]

Wym (im sorry im new to mods)

[cobalt elk]

A CTSFO, ARV uniform, Re-skin [dw i am new to mods too]

yk the grey uniforms.

[lunar birch]

do yall think its fair that a fbi hostage rescue team would respond to the mass shooting at the club

since they are terrorists

[astral warren]

name the last time the FBI got involved in a situation and helped anything. I think it's for the best they stay away, they might end up hiring some members of The Hand to work for them, as well.

Feds have fallen off, they can't do coverups or "accident" people in a convincing way anymore, it's like watching a 12 year old pretend to be a federal agent because they watched a few hollywood films so they know exactly how their job works.

also VOID pls fix damage cap thnx

Steel feels like kevlar :sadge:

[tacit gull]

companies can handle "accidenting" people now

[astral warren]

Boeing is funded by the feds, so they're literally outsource accidenting to their piggy banks.

I wonder if Mr. Hands was also an assassination coverup 🤔

[astral warren]

Boeing has specially trained horses that will seek and fuck to death any engineers that whistleblow. 😎

It's really the perfect crime.

Has anyone noticed suspects sometimes doing the stumble incap animation but then don't fall down after? Not like the, squat and shake their hands like their stimming animation, but the one where they stumble to the ground, try to get up, and then ragdoll from becoming incapped, typically.

Also I've noticed arterial bleeds just randomly stopping sometimes, not very often, but once or twice I nailed someone in the thigh with a slug and they started spraying blood everywhere, and then decided bleeding was for losers, and just stopped.

It seems to happen with certain cover transition animations/other anims for navigating a specific environment, maybe it breaks the bleeding somehow?

[trail spire]

guys does cs gas damage the player

[plush leaf]

Iirc no, it just impairs vision

[tacit gull]

yes

Very slowly, if you have like 1 hp you will die

[astral warren]

oh, okay, gestapo bot, sorry, I'll get back to work on those tank munitions.

Can I get an extra helping of sawdust bread, herr gestapobot? I am so hungry.

Gestapobot, you're trying my patience.

Also, does anyone know why the gestapobot is so sexist?

It censors literally every word one could use to describe a women unpleasantly, but none for men. Intriguing.

[toxic palm]

What the fuck are you talking about

[astral warren]

The censorship bot. Gestapobot.

It will let people spam slurs, but god forbid you talk about a female dog, that's just TOO FAR!!!

[toxic palm]

👍

[astral warren]

Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

[toxic palm]

Blows you up

[sharp sparrow]

Why does this server keep having a white dot next to it? It’s the only server that has it.

But then you load the server and there’s no notifications :/

[cyan geyser]

What’s the DKPD?

[silk junco]

donkey kong police dept

[lone cloud]

real i was literally about to type this can confirm

[silk junco]

lmaooo

[warm sandal]

what if we all just make out rn

throbbing ahh kisses

[amber dock]

[jolly light]

I got the DLC!!!

[silk junco]

enjoy

[jolly light]

gotta reinstall the game, t'was being weird and freezing during the loading screen

[fluid ether]

Home invasion dlc is pretty cool I enjoyed it with my friend only issues we came across was the guns falling through the ground preventing us from finishing the levels other than that very cool and atmospheric levels

[native rune]

Since when could you shoot chemlights and pop them lol?

[shy tulip]

You should be put on death row for shooting a chemlight

[stable kernel]

Never seen one shot in organic gameplay

[quasi blade]

I don't even use them, can't see them for nothing with how dim they are

[shrewd blade]

Do I wanna know how you figured that one out?

[native rune]

I backtracked through a level and found one that was exploded, which I’ve never seen before. Then I dropped one and shot it

[shy tulip]

It'd be hilarious if they added suspects kicking to smash them, only to annoy players.

[native rune]

Suspects slipping on them like banana peels and ragdolling

[wooden harbor]

anyone else super bored with our weapon/attachments

[shy tulip]

No, because I don't want tactical barbie like Ground Branch

But I also mainly just use FISA or LSPD uniform sets.

[wooden harbor]

i get you i just want a little variety

[shy tulip]

I think the only ones that matter for me is the scopes

Everything else you don't really see in normal gameplay.

[native rune]

All those blogs about how nice the clothes look and they’re either clipping, washed out, or don’t blend

As for weapon attachments what more could you ask for when we’ve got attachment stats that do nothing

[stone bay]

What do you guys think of Ready or Not? Good game?

[river tide]

no i just play it beacuse its trash

[stone bay]

What's unresolved mean? Below my rating?

[shy tulip]

It means you haven't completed all objectives, including soft objectives

[true ocean]

this mail mission is so annoying

[burnt ocean]

why doesn't the RD-704 mod, p320 mod and visceral blood not work?

[stable kernel]

#🔧modding-chat message

The two weapon mods you listed are too old to work anyway

[burnt ocean]

so visceral blood if manually installed should work?

is the AI Overhaul worth installing btw

[stable kernel]

Yes

[burnt ocean]

has gunfighter been updated?

[stable kernel]

Yes

[burnt ocean]

how do i know if a mod has been updated

[stone stump]

guns falling through the map don't stop you from completing the map, you just have to soft complete it

[stable kernel]

Updated last on or after July 23rd, as I said

[burnt ocean]

oh sorry

there's fr no sr-16 skin packs that r updated?

unfortunate

[stone stump]

doesn't surprise me that objectively one of the worst rifles in the game doesn't get much love from the modders

[stable kernel]

MFW longer barrel length doesn't help in CQB

[quartz patio]

Is there a way to change your character's voice in singleplayer?

[shy tulip]

Not without modding it

[quartz patio]

:(

[stone bay]

S-vests in Neon Tomb just won't surrender. If I stop shooting them and gassing them, they just blow themselves up?

Tasers don't do anything either.

[stone stump]

iirc there has to be some kind of distance

[stable kernel]

You and your team need to be out of detonation range

[stone bay]

ahh, damn

[quartz patio]

do you not get a full score for killing s[...]bombers?

[stone stump]

if they are too close they will explode, though that's never happened for me smh

[stone bay]

He was in a dead-end next to a civilian, so pretty hard to deal with.

[sacred bluff]

S run tips for Elephant other then luck? Cus I am so sick of loading the map and having suspects shooting a civ immediately x.x

[stable kernel]

Review rule #8

[stone bay]

is there any way i can play all maps but with AI, i dont play commander mode or whatever so I dont have any maps unlocked in quick play and i can just do a private multiplayer game but theres no ai.

[quaint sundial]

OK so

[frozen pond]

You have 120 seconds before the first civ gets executed so just run in and start hunting. Then I believe that every time you take out a terrorist you get another minute or two added to the countdown before the next civ gets executed. Or something like that. Dont mess with being methodical, just run and gun on it.

[quaint sundial]

I see an issue with why a lot of users aren't using the MMB command menu. It doesn't provide visual aids to the rest of the squad

Like if I issue a stack up command, it doesn't pop up for anyone in the squad. That's an issue for communicability

[frozen pond]

You have to unlock the maps through completing them in Commander mode. Then you can play them all with the AI.

[frozen pond]

Do you mean in COOP?

[quaint sundial]

Yes

If I order a stack up command and it doesn't show which door I want stacked up on for the squad, we have a fucking problem, Void!

[frozen pond]

I think they expect you to use your voice and the MMB is just for playing with the AI.

[quaint sundial]

I'm deaf, twats.

I NEED this command menu to be more functional.

As a veteran of SWAT 3/4, this is a severely overlooked feature, IMO

[frozen pond]

You can use lights and lasers if you are deaf but you will need to work that out with your squadmates.

[quaint sundial]

JFC.

When I'm pubbing that's not really a good arrangement. This needs to be addressed ASAP. Just a cursor indicator on whatever I've issued orders for will work

This shouldn't be hard.

[frozen pond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pyCEictS2Y&list=PL9IoWhlm3uOkZJTmLcrzyv26B5DopSEQV&index=5

"Clearing Rooms Without Saying A Word in Ready Or Not" from Justinred87 YouTube channel.

[quaint sundial]

Yes, let's recommend a YT channel to a deaf guy.

[frozen pond]

I mean its all visual. They are silently clearing a map in RON with flashlights for communications. You dont need to hear anything.

[quaint sundial]

I get it, but this is something that should've honestly been addressed by the game properly

[frozen pond]

Well, take it up with the Developers to see if they can fit it into an upcoming sprint, or see if it is something that can be fixed with a mod.

[quaint sundial]

It's really easy, just add a circle User Interface element to any object that gets tagged by a context-sensitive command

it's literally a basic rendering element.

[frozen pond]

Nice! Sounds like a great Mod project https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/922350557031702608

[quaint sundial]

Bonus points if they can add a pathing line to provide guidance.

Because of the lack of context-sensitive GUI elements providing direction to squad members, therre's really no value in the element groupings in Co-Op

That's why I think it needs that as an official function.

[quaint sundial]

"this map has booby traps" - rando vet of the game

And someone opens a door and trips it. ffs Wiped out 3 of us, lol

[slim fern]

Neon tomb takes place before Elephant?

[stone bay]

Some of my steam achievements aren't working right

I've s-ranked some missions but the steam achievements don't detect it

[stoic vortex]

CANNOT CALL MOM WITH TACTICAL SHIELD

[dense quest]

If you mean by date then yes

https://ready-or-not.fandom.com/wiki/Mission_Timeline

[quaint sundial]

One thing I've noticed about this game

Players are being forced to act a lot less tactical than you'd expect because of how extremely difficult the AI is

basically, from what I can tell, their high accuracy and threat level is without a doubt, overtuned

And because of that, it's hard to really get any kind of read on them - so a lot of players are defaulting to taking immediate action on contact rather than attempting to force compliance

That is to say, they shoot first before even trying to demand compliance. That's not really how you want a game like RoN to be played, especially when it is so obviously rooted in the same design as the SWAT 3 and 4 games

But I can tell you that RoN is a massive improvement over other...attempts at the tactical shooter in recent memory, especially the one that kept trying to bill itself as the spiritual successor to SWAT 3/4.

[plush leaf]

Beanbags do work

I know because I've S-ranked the main game already

[stone bay]

ahh okay no it's just a skill issue

[plush leaf]

Hint: Run CS gas and Beanbag shotguns, except for when raiding Gerard's house where the suspects are immune to gas and you'll have to switch to flash or stingers

[nocturne seal]

how do i do thelethal obsession mission im stuck on it?

dm me if you know how to do it

[upbeat shore]

The same way you do all missions.

[distant crater]

i say to just take it a bit slower, as the veterans are harder to take down with their extra armor

[amber dock]

This man ain’t wrong

[distant crater]

maybe take ap rounds if you arent already running them

or run a 7.62 gun for more stopping power

[floral bramble]

heya, i'm a bit confused as to why reshade doen't work since the dlc dropped

i installed the newest version like usual

[stone bay]

Guys I am beyond enraged. I finished Carrier of the Vine solo, S-rank. After like 70 attempts...

And the last gun is stuck in the floor. 😭 \

will the devs let us force a restraint like pinning people to the ground when they get overwhelmed by a stun or gas and not wait for them to kneel down?

[tacit gull]

Probably not, only place i see that happening is in the PVP

[stone stump]

they aren't immune to gas btw

[plush leaf]

They are very much immune to gas. Tried it already. Plus they wear gas masks anyways

[tacit gull]

Gas masks don't work

I remember there was a single suspect on there who (probably unintentionally) had gas immunity

[topaz epoch]

can i still achieve the "the hermit" achievment after i died once but non of AI-Officers did?

[sweet palm]

anyone knows whats the main menu musics call?

specially the more quiet calm part

[tacit gull]

You couldn't get it in the first place considering you're not playing on ironman mode

[topaz epoch]

i am

[tacit gull]

Then you couldn't have died without your save being deleted

[tacit gull]

The first track that plays in the menu is Police Theme by Zack Bower

[topaz epoch]

my bad i forgot to enable ironman mode i only played commander

[topaz epoch]

thanks

[tacit gull]

Atleast that's what the current soundtrack calls it

[sacred bluff]

Really? Man ok thanks. I’ll try that.

[acoustic ridge]

are scope reticles fixed or will we have to wait 2 months for another patch

[frail quartz]

Im pretty sure it said they fixed it this patch

[modest saddle]

Me: Open the door, bang and clear
The last remaining man on my team who got stuck in a door at the beginning:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935989994735169546/1272989593901338665/image0-20.gif

[errant flint]

what do i do with anqious officers? I cant send them to therapy. From what i heard it doesnt change anything but im not sure

[fervent gale]

Is second floor accesible on relapse?

[paper topaz]

for the beat cope achievement, does it still count if my AI teammates have rifles?

[cobalt basin]

y’all know that Christian guy that sits in lobbies to argue with someone on the phone

it’s been a year, how long can he do this

[amber dock]

I don’t think it does.

[acoustic ridge]

forever, void is trying to find a way to silence him

[paper topaz]

do I have to do it solo or just give my squadmates no rifle ammo >

[amber dock]

Give them no rifle ammo yes, remove all grenades and just give them pistol mags. Cause they will need it

[paper topaz]

bet

[acoustic ridge]

gove thwm five sevens, 20rnd mag and good armor pen

[loud terrace]

just wondering if anyone has any opinions on the flux defense raider im not sure if i should use it because i cant find any videos on it

[amber dock]

A video won’t do you any good, cause the person who at the end of the day that decides if the gun is good is yourself.

[fervent gale]

Well it's 9mm and it's semi auto. The only real advantage I see is compactness to maneuver around cover, since conseilability and transporting doesn't matter in RoN. So on the Paper it isn't worth choosing over a Rifle or actual smg, but imo feel of a weapon can be even more important than the actual stats in RoN, so if you have fun/feel confident with it, go for it

[loud terrace]

thanks for the advice ill give it a run and see how it goes

[fervent gale]

Alr have fun

[plush leaf]

No full auto means it's really abysmal. Just run an MP9 at this point and pray that VOID moves it to the pistol class where it belongs and models in its missing iron sight slit

[tacit gull]

It actually deals a lot more damage than the MP9 and also has no recoil, it absolutely doesn't belong in the pistol class because then you wouldn't run ANY other pistol

[plush leaf]

I doubt that as they're both 9mm but okay. Should still primarily run rifles instead though

And for balancing it against other pistols, just give it a longer ADS time

[frail quartz]

IMO the low-recoil and 21 round capacity per mag would instantly make it my go-to regardless of how slow they make the ADS

[plush leaf]

Fair considering point shooting is a thing. Still it has no business being in the SMG category, and it can use P320 mags so you can knock it down to 17 rounds a mag if you want to balance it

[shy tulip]

ADS time also doesn't realllyy.. matter in RoN? Most players shouldn't at least be playing like a large map PVP game, where most of the time you won't be ADS. At least when I approach an open door, I'm already ADSing before I can even see into the room to pie it

I like it as a primary and it certainly has more benefits than normal pistols, but I don't really care at the end of the day, it's fun either way

[tacit falcon]

yes it does?

OH WAIT NVM i thought u said ads not time

[umbral oar]

hipfire is great in ron too

[bitter mason]

real chads dont ADS

[frail quartz]

I feel like the Raider would be extraordinarily uncomfortable to use with a shield anyways

[bitter mason]

hip fire everything on fullauto

[frail quartz]

" 'Sight picture'? I'm aiming a gun, not a camera, dumbass."

[bitter mason]

I just follow the tracers and impacts duh

[frail quartz]

☝️🤓 "Ermm, acktually, that would be extremely ammo inefficient and still doesn't solve your problem of having no idea where you're aiming before firing"

[bitter mason]

erm dont care didnt ask + having fun shooting my gun rn + cant hear you over my gun rn + Ill figure out where to aim after firing duh + owned + pwned

[lethal stump]

It would be good to have more spent shells and magazines remain on the map

[bitter mason]

I havent actually noticed them disappearing tbh tho I never really looked for that

[quaint sundial]

Having a lot of temporary objects like that can cause the game to lag on lesser-built systems. So that should be a slider option under Graphics, if Void ever feels like it

[stone bay]

any tips for 'sins of the father'

[bitter mason]

Elevator start, wedge the bottom floor start clearing the top room by room wedging the fire escape door as you pass it, and when you reach the big room with the fire place, wedge both doors and back track to the elevator and unwedge the bottom door. Wedge the door at the end of the hallway this time and clear through the rooms and finish by the balcony one
That's my strategy usually
Wedges are your friend when they work
Help with making maps clear linearly

[stone bay]

what abt without wedges cuz i dont use them much and not bothered to?

[bitter mason]

Without wedges you could pretty much do the same but don't be surprised if you're attacked from behind
If you're playing with ai teammates then you can give them the wedges
Could always instead do the roof entry and just try and clear the top floor first and then the second

You just run more risk of suspects running and flanking without wedging doors
Though rn they do like to just ignore the wedges and just open the doors anyways at times

[shy tulip]

Wedges are for suckas

[bitter mason]

Nah uh

Wedges are me best friend
I like controlling the level and getting into my enemies heads and slowly messing with them driving them crazy

[stable kernel]

The enemies can mess back by opening wedged doors

Pretty sure it’s an issue with them taking cover right next to the door, although there may be more than one way for it to happen

Had it happen to me today in fact

[bitter mason]

Yeah I noticed it was with cover taking

Suspects need a door overhaul fr
Make them actually need to physically open them rather than magically swing them open in an instant

[stable kernel]

I mean the player does that too

[bitter mason]

Not to that extent

[stable kernel]

But suspects can do it out of sight if the door

[bitter mason]

They will literally open doors with the force of a kick and be able to shoot you the second they see you
The player is exposed during the animation

[stable kernel]

Just superior training tbh

[stone bay]

wedges are useful in certain maps like greased palms

[bitter mason]

And even so it would just play better if suspects had to actually open doors and didn't just automatically know if they were locked
I want to wedge a door and have a suspect try and flee through it just to get stuck trying to open it
At that point either fighting back or surrendering with nowhere to go

[stable kernel]

They can open locked doors too

With the same bug as the wedge I think

Plus in some circumstances they just open it normally. There’s a true false option for that int he custom map tools, but idk how it works exactly

It makes sense to some degree that if they locked it, they can unlock it too. But there out to be an audio cue and animation for it

[bitter locust]

Hey, is there a optimizing mod?

[toxic palm]

there are some that help actually, like the Fog remover

[paper topaz]

I cant find the mission coyote

[silk junco]

it’s called rust belt

[paper topaz]

then why they say coyote in steam?

[silk junco]

because that was going to be the name originally and i guess they just didn’t change it

[paper topaz]

this game I swear

[shy tulip]

It is the unofficial name, it is Rust Belt.

Each map has a "nickname" which is pretty much the unofficial, the map screen also says which is which

[burnt ocean]

the elephant map pisses me off

[toxic palm]

how so?

[burnt ocean]

the bombs :/
it's so annoying to find them especially while listening to music

bc im blasting machine head

[toxic palm]

that is fair, that map is confusing by design

[burnt ocean]

yeah

my school/college irl is worse tho

the room numbers are tiny

[toxic palm]

i still think the postal officel lvl might be more hellish tho

[burnt ocean]

YES THAT WAS SO BAD

it took me 33 minutes

[toxic palm]

g3a3 with HMAA saved my life cause of the zoom

[burnt ocean]

also i think the 15 second slowmode is WAY too long

im tryna figure out what map is causing my game to break

nvm its all maps

whats the "best" rifle

[toxic palm]

whichever youre the most comfortable with

[stable kernel]

The correct answer

Most AR’s in game are so similar just pick one that feels good to you

Sa-58 is the outlier

[shy tulip]

You forget the gamer urge to minmax for no reason

[stable kernel]

I mean 5.56 and 300blk are the same in this game

I don’t remember how different the slr bullet is

[paper topaz]

whats the meldonin strat?

[idle garnet]

me when gunfighter 4 mod

[stable kernel]

Minimize entering the side rooms, probably bring a bean shotty yourself, and get lucky

[paper topaz]

genuinely the only game where I dont get that urge

[half edge]

Lil bit of luck tbh

I forget if it was north/south side I start on, but it's the one with a small initial room.
Using both AI teams to breach/clear rooms while while you do others solo.
Lots of yelling. Helps indicate where NPCs are.

Having 1 lethal & 1 LTL per squad helps guarantee you get your 5 arrests.

Do as little manual work as you can. Use your AI to arrest, breach, flashbang, etc. whenever you can. I find this saves time.

Other than that, idk what to tell ya. Good luck.

[stone bay]

almost lost everyone on my team on sins of the father because of how stupid they were

3 killed and 1 survived with me, 2 got shot down and the other one went head first and got mag dumped on all angles

[half edge]

Thinking of stupid AI behaviors. I almost never see anyone mention the auto-detain and auto-evidence bagging. That behavior gets the AI killed and needs some changing

[shy tulip]

It is the monkeys paw, and gamers know it

People complained that they had to micromanage the swat even more compared to now, especially evidence gathering

[half edge]

I'd just like to be able to enable/disable the auto function

[quaint sundial]

Seems that the LFG channel isn't really useful for a deaf guy like me. lol

[shy tulip]

You used to have to select the menu, then go down to evidence, and tell them to individually bag every item that they were in range of

T'was no command to search and secure

[half edge]

Cause when they cross into un-cleared thresholds and get themselves shot just to grab a dead man's gun, it's very annoying

[quaint sundial]

Anybody wanna run with me?

[stable kernel]

Sef has search and secure, but I will admit I never played without it

[half edge]

The search & secure is fine, I'm talking about when they just decide 100% on their own to go and grab something in the middle of a room that baddies have LOS on

[stone bay]

yea

the AI mostly go head first and detain then get shot right after

[half edge]

Either that or they refuse to bag something they're standing on. Somehow they manage to do both.

[stone bay]

The stupid hitbox on a truck mirror bounced my flash towards me and got friendly fire damage. So no S-rank :(

[hollow citrus]

Do grenades bounce normally again ?

[quaint sundial]

@gaunt gale Is this a joke?

Seeing this thing in the Condos, "How Best to Design Video Games for the Hearing IMpaired"

[gaunt gale]

Comes again?

[quaint sundial]

On one of the TV's in the map.

There is a video clip among others with that title.

Posted a screengrab in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

Considering the irony of this, since I am deaf, and had mentioned earlier that the MMB command menu should at least show waypoints for any orders given

Sorry for the delay in the reply, was in the middle of a mission. :p

[ancient cloud]

time to shoot everyone i see

[burnt ocean]

how many bombs are there on elephant? i've defused 2

[shy tulip]

It varies, but I think TOC will tell you when they're all defused?

Been a while

[burnt ocean]

yeah it was 3 for me

do civis spawn outside?

[shy tulip]

Never had em do that, but they can wander/run

[burnt ocean]

i cant find the last ones

YES I DID IT

[halcyon sorrel]

I love spending 15 minutes on a mission only for it to hard freeze randomly.

Unrelated, carriers of the vine can die in a fire

[gaunt gale]

It may have been just been something a designer was ingesting when they were making the map, I don't think it was intended as a joke.
Though I believe actual visible waypoints was on the wishboard for accessibility features.

[quaint sundial]

Should add it in when possible, though. Would help immensely when I'm commanding a squad, or being part of a team element

[quaint sundial]

And I know it's probably not a joke, but it felt pretty ironic considering the circumstancves. 😄

[plush leaf]

Not so much with a brace instead of a stock

[plush leaf]

Describes my Port Hokan run with the SA-58 lol

[quaint sundial]

Car dearlership mission, put a bulelt into a suspect shooting me, he died, and it overpenned into the second suspect behind him. That one was screaming for a good while

[stark fox]

I got the jump on an ai and shot him dead center twice but the beanbag missed. He shoots me once I instantly fucking die. I hate beanbags so damn much. Worthless fucking gun

[bitter mason]

Weird

Beanbag has never failed me

[plucky condor]

i know there's a switch to flick somewhere in the graphics that gives me my crosshair back can someone jog my memory

my scope is. blank

[stone bay]

Gun is fine, just skill issue or bug.

[bitter mason]

I dont know if this is the problem, but it might be related to DLSS and FSR settings, trying turning those off if they're on

[plucky condor]

yep! done did it, killed my frames though

trying to copy the rex engelbert ar build but i need to trade my reticle for frames

[stark fox]

I'm not a good shot but I'm certain it wasn't a skill issue. He was standing still, I carefully aimed that shot, and the reticle was aimed right at center mass. It's genuinely frustrating how unreliable this thing is since the only other alternative is a pepperball that takes 2-3 seconds to actually kick in

[bitter mason]

how far away was he

[stone bay]

weird then

[stark fox]

pretty far, but far enough to kill me in two shots

[bitter mason]

beanbags apparently have drop off

so its entirely possible they just didnt hit him if he was too far
but idk the drop off range