pif-hoenn-discussion

[viscid wren]

Its just gonna be all Electrode/Pyukumuku

[sterile spoke]

Roxanne has 3 Dragon Rage users, plus a Shedinja fusion. Have fun. 🙂

[stray spear]

Do you hate the playerbase

[viscid wren]

Only 4 pokemon? You guys are slaking

[stray spear]

Slaking is the Pokemon

[viscid wren]

Roxanne now sill also have Pure Power Slaking

With a choice scarf

[flint tiger]

and a bunch of full restores, max revives and max elixirs

[viscid wren]

We got legendary mode, when are we getting Phisch mode?

[prime dust]

that's sort of a thing already

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anime-lampi-lamp-glowing-gif-13501232159387453853

[viscid wren]

You can download old versions?

[viscid wren]

Not enough phisch

[prime dust]

legacy stuff? within reason

but anything between 4.9.2 and current is dead

https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/Version_History#Other_versions

[full bison]

Nah, this time around it will be Electrode/Swellow with Scrappy. You WILL get hit by that Explosion.

-# sub out with Electrode/Miltank if you want that same combo with STAB+ mental damage

[inland jewel]

can Assist call explosion?

[dense cosmos]

Tell us you hate us without telling us you hate us

[craggy nexus]

plot twist we gave sandstorm to carbink and give u one free before the gym

[trail hull]

why do you think the demo takes so long to release?

It's not out of love

They are crafting the most hateful , ragebaiting , tearful experience possible

[proud lion]

Your first rival battle is a Shedinja Notmal Fusion with only a Dark Weakness and your starter is level 5.

[trail hull]

wrong

your first rival is actually not a fusion

it's an eelektross that got modded in to have a wonder guard , and has the baloon as an held item

[viscid wren]

Your starter is a magikarp that somehow has 4 moveslots of splash

[trail hull]

and has one 1 hp

and is always poisoned

[hasty lantern]

pif hoenn needs to have the minccino line because minccino is a little goober

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/future-squidward-spongebob-gif-4767609

we already have the confirmed list of what is being added, anything beyond that will be for later

likely with the game fully being released, instead of just the demo

[inner ether]

How the staff doing you all taking enough breaks?

Not checking in on the game just seeing how the staff is mentally

[glacial seal]

Where?

What's been confirmed?

Besides the elemental monkeys

[hushed axle]

No monkeys

?tag pokedex || but anything after 501 will be in hoenn

[opal trail]

All Gen 1 - 2 Pokémon are in the game, and the Pokémon that are included from Gen 3 - 7 (as well as their location and Pokédex number) can be found here:

https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/Pokédex

[prime dust]

the monkeys were in the april fools video

[inner ether]

How you doing sapphire

[glacial seal]

Oh

[viscid wren]

Another victim of the monkee scandal

[dense cosmos]

There is monkey business here

[crystal cosmos]

Actually the monkeys left for vacation indefinitely

[craggy nexus]

they tried to form an union and paya had to take them out back

[crystal cosmos]

Damn unionizing is illegal in the infinite fusions

[molten loom]

They dooted their last doot

[rancid nymph]

They’re taking a vacation in Orre

[dense jolt]

When does the game drop and where can I play 🌝

[hushed axle]

Soon™️

[crystal cosmos]

?tag hoennwhen

[opal trail]

[dry cradle]

It dropped yesterday. Full release.
||I love misinformation||

[fringe forge]

i cant wait to finally have water!

[full bison]

I wonder if we've ever gone a full week without a pin barrage

[fringe forge]

probably got close but i dont think a full week

[fair trout]

Yes, I remember that it released along with Deltarune Chapter 5, the Silksong DLC, and GTA 6

[viscid wren]

You forgot elder scrolls 6 and fallout 5

[fair trout]

True, true

[rancid nymph]

And the announcement of the new Pokémon Ranger game

[viscid wren]

Oh and Pokemon BW remakes

[full bison]

Don't forget Half Life 3

[viscid wren]

Idea, make path east of fallarbor town the connects to fortree to make the map even more connected. Hoenn is pretty interconnected except for around fortree and lilycove and this could make for a cool place to discover

You could even make it blocked off until the weather institute is cleared to prevent skipping

[dry cradle]

I hope they give us some cool side content in pacifidlog town. It’s the coolest town with nothing to do

[jaunty compass]

Yeah, like add some neat stuff about the Draconid clan and their Okinawan inspiration a bit.

[full bison]

I just in general would like to see the water routes made more distinct

[dense cosmos]

Portal 3 >

[inner ether]

Don't you hate you got something to ask then seconds later you forget what was it you gonna ask

[undone stirrup]

Not having Fallout 5 made me respect Bethesda actually

They could have made a lot of money if they released undercooked stuff with Amazon series hype

And they are familiar with the concept of undercooked

[glass finch]

Dont We All Buddy

[undone stirrup]

We should get a Groudon mode where all water routes are dried up

And surf/fish encounters just flop around

[viscid wren]

Never said it was a bad thing lol

I like seeing devs actually take time to make a game

[prime dust]

their working on it

[full bison]

Never saw the appeal of Bethesda stuff honestly

Just feels like a bunch of broken unfinished games that ask the community to finish it for them

Mods are cool and all, but I prefer mods built on a more solid foundation

[viscid wren]

I mean yeah they are definitely janky and do sometimes break but I don't think they are that bad, atleast not fallout 4 and skyrim. More so fallout 4 as skyrim does have aome bigger issues

[sturdy frost]

morrowind and oblivion are also very solid (albeit simpler, and thus less to break). Especially considering the times.

[viscid wren]

Ive never seen anything on morrowind but I have definitely seen some stuff on oblivion

[viscid wren]

Trumpet

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[viscid wren]

I suggest we replace the water with a sea of trumpets

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[crystal cosmos]

Trumpet

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[prime dust]

that'll get old fast

[hushed axle]

https://tenor.com/view/neva-never-marc-homealone-youcantstopme-gif-9816521

[heady nymph]

Gonna be playing with the trumpets on

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[heady nymph]

How does one set a command like this up

[green laurel]

Command?

Nah mega can just read

Unlike anyone in this server

[real falcon]

🎺

I thought the trumpet emoji would work... ... DOOTDOOT

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[dense cosmos]

yanmega loves trumpet

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[sacred pagoda]

dex trumpet

[light garden]

I don't think "Trumpet" is in PIF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

DOOTDOOT

[crystal cosmos]

Can we update this when the demo releases plz

[trail hull]

DOOTDOOT

Oh it didn’t reply

[gray vine]

you arent a trumpet

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[trail hull]

Oh you need to say the word trumpet ?

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[trail hull]

Oh

[viscid fossil]

🎺

Worth a shot

(trumpet)

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[viscid wren]

It a cacophony in here

[dense tide]

trumpet

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[loud stag]

Made my day

[fringe forge]

trumpets are cannon to the pif discord lore

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[rancid nymph]

Frog should make it so that if you tell the trendy word guy in Dewford that the word trumpet is trendy, he responds with DOOTDOOT

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[prime dust]

yeah no it got old fast, this will just end up getting spammed

[rancid nymph]

Sounds like an issue not an issme

[hushed axle]

It’s staying until someone discovers why it exists

-# trumpet

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[viscid wren]

It exists for the silly

[hushed axle]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-not-i-dont-know-maybe-we-dont-know-gif-4965071280460852343

[trail hull]

it stays until someone starts abusing so we can't have nice things anymore

[viscid wren]

We have nice trumpets

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[hushed axle]

If that was the case it’d be gone

[heady nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/magicdippyegg-skull-meme-trumpet-skull-trumpet-gif-12721033456283082376

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[heady nymph]

Best way to do it

[glacial seal]

https://www.fusiondex.org/arbok+linoone/ https://www.fusiondex.org/eevee+linoone/ https://www.fusiondex.org/goomy+linoone/ https://www.fusiondex.org/linoone+arbok/ https://www.fusiondex.org/ledian+linoone/ https://www.fusiondex.org/linoone+eevee/ https://www.fusiondex.org/linoone+minun/ https://www.fusiondex.org/linoone+numel/

Looked for Linoone fusions that didn't have entries yet

[torn crane]

*discount eeveelution

[ancient narwhal]

We gonna get mega evolution into fusions that'd be gas

That'd probably be hard to code though

[prime dust]

this game already has one gimmick, no plans to add another

[ancient narwhal]

Aw

[prime dust]

at best frog might add in regional forms in the future [for mons that exist up to and including US/UM]

[ancient narwhal]

Hmm minior works with transforming fusions though, but yeah

[viscid wren]

Minior isnt a whole gimmick though, its a gimmick mon but its not like terastalization or mega evolution

[prime dust]

the second closest gimmick we have is 1 instance of a z crystal

and that is for necrozma

[rancid nymph]

He doesn’t even use the Z move though, so that doesn’t really count

[prime dust]

yeah

[viscid wren]

Also minior is just adorable

[full bison]

It is kinda sad that we just straight up can't use Aerilate thanks to the no megas rule. It's a fun ability and there could be some amusing combos with it

I do understand the decision to not include them and respect it, that's just a smal little nitpick

[gray vine]

the game isnt hard tho nor combat based

so it really doesnt matter

[full bison]

Making fusions that exploit game mechanics to create broken monstrosities is still really fun though

Blasting everything to oblivion with Adaptability Boomburst Poryvern is immensely satisfying

Also saying this game isn't combat based is just... wrong?

Like sure, the sprite art is what gets the most eyes on this game and an undeniable boon, but it's still an RPG with a heavy focus on battling your team against others.

[sacred pagoda]

If a pokemon game isn't combat based then what is it? Story based? HAH

[full bison]

<@&306953740651462656>

[sacred pagoda]

What the fuck I thought this bs was over

The check my profile shit

[drifting mason]

Check my 8 pages

[fringe forge]

ok slenderman

[molten loom]

<@&306953740651462656> again

[sacred pagoda]

[quaint matrix]

I mean nothing stops Frog from just adding it as a Hidden Ability tbh

He gave Delibird Snow Warning as an HA even though it already has an HA

Idk just give Swellow Aerilate or smth that'll boost its profile

[alpine drift]

I'll be honest, when the demo drops I'm making my starter Pokemon Minun. It's my favorite.

[dense cosmos]

Legendary status Swellow has aerilate

-# similar to star rail dishing out 5 star versions of 4 star Dan heng, but in this case it is 5 star swellow with broken ability

[velvet root]

Lets give Archeops HA Aerilate

https://tenor.com/view/archeops-pokemon-pokeplush-pokemon-plush-plush-gif-6766593941031228586

[wicked heath]

Let's give a random Pokémon Aerilate

Silcoon gets Aerilate now

[fringe forge]

[undone stirrup]

Zangoose is gonna be a fun one when it arrives

It gets both power trip and belly drum

[rancid nymph]

I keep forgetting that Power Trip is a Gen 7 move

I keep thinking it’s Gen 8 because Rookiedee gets it early

[undone stirrup]

Actually I have a mistake too

It is krookodile signature at 7
Mistake times 2 because breeding/event

[viscid fossil]

That's silly
Power trip is now electric type grass knot, the opponent trips over a power cable

[viscid wren]

Thunderarmor Swellow

[molten loom]

No power trip is what @hexed agate does

[hexed agate]

Girl you be trippin

[molten loom]

Yes but that's unrelated, that's me not looking where I be walking

[hexed agate]

🛣️

[viscid wren]

I trip too, my shoes try to assassinate me all the time

Pifh should add a tripping mechanic

[inner ether]

How is the staff doing today

Hope your all taking enough breaks and rest

[sturdy frost]

https://tenor.com/view/nubby-number-factory-nubby's-number-factory-shake-head-no-gif-1246513089075927417

[inner ether]

Then get some you all need it XD

[sturdy frost]

-# im leaving on a holiday this week and staff is having fun

[inner ether]

That good you all deserve it

[hexed agate]

Nubby...

[inland jewel]

ymir is gone? get the trumpets

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[rancid nymph]

So trumpets also works. Good to know

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[viscid wren]

Can you sandwichtrumpetin words?

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[viscid wren]

Indeedily do

[sturdy frost]

https://tenor.com/view/nubby-number-factory-nubby's-number-factory-mogdogblog-gif-15964204962435963340

Get in loser, we're going shopping

[hexed agate]

[dense cosmos]

I'm not a staff, but my body denies this rest you speak of.

[trail hull]

I'm gonna test smth

dex trumpet

[light garden]

I don't think "Trumpet" is in PIF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

DOOTDOOT

[trail hull]

oh it doesn't say it to itself :c

[sacred pagoda]

It doesn't react to you, it does say it to itself

[rancid nymph]

If Yanmega could respond to its own messages, then every time someone asked it where to find a Pokémon, it would keep repeating that same message for the rest of time

[trail hull]

hmm

did not think of that

[dense cosmos]

Ask it to find celebi and create a temporal loop where the bot is trapped forever saying where to find it!

[molten loom]

<@&306953740651462656> if discord will stop dying, the beast bots snuck in

[dim sparrow]

yep

[dense cosmos]

the bots planned this

[sacred pagoda]

Their master plan to hack everyone

[inner ether]

Lol felt like it

Your tech support fix it XD

[sacred pagoda]

I just waggled my finger at them and issued them a stern warning

And they were scared and ran off Mods had no action taken

[inner ether]

Lol

[atomic hornet]

Not many people know, but this is gastly's calling he's been at war with these bots for ages

[inner ether]

Hey paya how are you

[atomic hornet]

I'm good! Getting tons of work done

[inland jewel]

I think we should give Gastly a standing ovation for this war he's been waging, call the trumpets

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[atomic hornet]

DOOTDOOT

[molten loom]

DOOTDOOT

[inner ether]

I got a pen for my phone!! O.o

[inland jewel]

DOOTDOOT

[inner ether]

Thrumpettes

XD

[dense tide]

trumpet

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[teal cipher]

Will hoenn be added to the current game, or will it be a separate one entirely?

[prime dust]

get pinned

[teal cipher]

Mfw literally no one tells me whether or not that's pinned, but okay.

[prime dust]

we just did

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-din-djarin-the-mandalorian-the-only-way-no-other-choice-gif-22927061

[teal cipher]

I meant prior.

[fringe forge]

thats how things work around here

[flint tiger]

who is the person that forgot to 📌 🧷 📍

[flint tiger]

because this message got 5/5/4/4/4

[rancid nymph]

It was @molten loom

[flint tiger]

shame them but be funny about it, don’t be rude

[molten loom]

I've been reacting with just the 2 and for a while

[flint tiger]

gotta make them all even

[rancid nymph]

You think the pin god would be satisfied with that

[flint tiger]

yeah, even pins are satisfactory

[fringe forge]

pins for the pin god

I feel like when the full game comes out we need like a pim refernce in game

[sacred pagoda]

Pim?

[glacial seal]

They probably mean Smiling Friends

Unless it's an acroynm

We could do with a Poliwag fusion with that reference

[hidden relic]

or they just made a type of pin?

[flint tiger]

smiling friends is pretty funny

[dense cosmos]

I can't always be there to pin
It was me

[fringe forge]

it was 4 am I MENT PIN

😭

[split zodiac]

i wonder if yveltal will be in this game

[inland jewel]

confirmed not this year

Maybe next year, or 2028

[split zodiac]

its been confirmed that yveltal specificly wouldnt be added in pif hoenn this year? XD

[proud lion]

The real travesty is the loss of our monkey bretheren

https://tenor.com/view/pansear-pokémon-pokémon-legends-z-a-z-a-royale-monkey-gif-10256194842042631950

[inland jewel]

any mon really

since they already announced what pokemon they are adding, with 0 chances for other mons to be added for the Demo

[split zodiac]

i know lol

[fringe forge]

enough monkey business

[velvet root]

Agree
I was so hyped

[trail hull]

Monkeys were so much joked about them getting added became super believable

[mellow zinc]

I dont post here often but im excited because this will likely have one of my favorite underrated pokemon

https://tenor.com/view/gorebyss-shiny-pokemon-pokemon-huntail-clamperl-gif-7037435461079651589

[velvet root]

Nah I seriously want them

[slim otter]

Can't lose what you never had

[slim otter]

Gorebyss is already confirmed for the Hoenn region
We'll have all hoenn mons in the final version of the game

[mellow zinc]

Yay! So excited to have my weird fish

[fringe forge]

i always loved the clampearl line

but they just always lack something

fusions will fix that

[gray vine]

do love Huntail alot but i have never seen one ingame

[fringe forge]

because no one dares to use it

lol

[full bison]

It's just so out of the way

I do like the fish shape on its tail. I feel like that lends itself to some interesting spriting directions

[viscid fossil]

In hoenn you can't get the item to evolve it until you can dive

And you only get 1 per save

[full bison]

IIRC it's a choice between it or the Gorbyss item too, so if you choose Gorbyss, you can't get the Huntail item

[fringe forge]

and even when you do get them you get a very underwhelming pokemon

[viscid fossil]

I mean that kind makes sense for a trade evo

[fringe forge]

sad

i really like their design

[full bison]

I do kinda wonder how different the perception of Gorbyss would be if it wasn't introduced in the same gen as Milotic

[inland jewel]

i know i've used gorebyss in more playthroughs than i have for milotic so there is that

shell smash gorebyss with swift swim is super fun

[rancid nymph]

I’ve used Gorebyss the exact same amount as Milotic. Which is to say that I haven’t used either cause trade evolutions are stupid

[full bison]

Milotic is great to use in ORAS

The beauty evo is way easier and feebas is easy enough to catch

[fringe forge]

i think i already said that before
but when pif hoenn comes out im 100% doing a mono water as one of my first runs

hoenn has like so many water types i like

[inland jewel]

i really hope that for Clamperl they don't evolve by holding the item

becaues i want to use Scale Clamperl and have that major spdef

[sacred pagoda]

Well I just tried to test and there isn't a use icon on the items, but it's possible it isn't fully coded in so

[inland jewel]

like most trade evos, it should be a use item to evo it

[gloomy cedar]

My favorite part about more pokemon being added to the fusion pile is more references. More.

I really like the megaman zero references. We have Zero, Leviathan, and Harpuia. Wheres my Fefnir and Phantom representatives?

[west sonnet]

I mean

Gorebyss has some Crazy stats

114 SpA and 104 Def is nothing to sneeze at

Some other real bad ones too

Mych to consider

[torn crane]

I like gorebyss and huntail items

[lyric zephyr]

I’m just stoked to get Spheal eventually tbh

https://tenor.com/view/tess-spheal-gif-22641311

[glacial seal]

Me too

At least the base game has Breloom

[atomic hornet]

hey guys

my response:

sorry we broke the promise to not add any more things again we just want to spoil you

[fickle crest]

?tag rule9 /joke

[opal trail]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 9:
Spoilers / Leaks. Any announced information about upcoming games and media (including sprites, art, memes, or any reference new Pokémon or character designs) must be hidden under a spoiler, unless posted in the specific channel for that game for a minimum of 2 months after their release. Leaked information relevant to current and future games is no longer allowed on this server to ensure Nintendo doesn't disappear us.

[fickle crest]

but i'm curious to see the new mechanic

[atomic hornet]

I think you'll find it fairly quickly, its a change to a core mechanic ||otherwise it's a skill issue||

[proud lion]

Come on, bring our Monkey brethren back!

https://tenor.com/view/anipoke-pokemon-gif-23760775

If the new mechanic is monkies, we can make it work!

[velvet root]

How do I miss somethign I never had

[trail hull]

Starving us for even more to feast on more

Can't wait to see it

Guys I had a dumb idea

what if overworld encounters extended to fishing

like you lunch you fishing rod , a pokemon (or blurry shape if treasures ) appear

and then you have to catch it like your in animal crossing

[fringe forge]

Holy tease

[rancid nymph]

So how many more months is the game going to take now

[fringe forge]

june 2029
for the demo

my source is me

[flint tiger]

“june 2029” does not answer how many months for the demo

“37 months” is the answer

[fringe forge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[atomic hornet]

I can definitely say, not April

[fringe forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-i-under-black-guy-gif-1247944034220562367

"why isnt pif hoenn out yet"

[viscid fossil]

BREAKING: PIF HOENN CONFIRMED FOR MAY 1

[sturdy frost]

https://tenor.com/view/northernlion-northern-lion-ryan-letourneau-gif-15239682327720512260

real

[craggy nexus]

hey remember when they said it was going to come out this month that was a good april fool joke

[atomic hornet]

I said we were aiming for this month. Some things came up

[flint tiger]

so now it May be released next month or later

I’m making a pun with what tomorrow is

[karmic oasis]

Hell yeah

[atomic hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/its-gonna-be-may-justin-timberlake-n-sync-boy-band-me-gif-21216859

[fringe forge]

pif hoenn is never coming out

its a myth

frog will keep adding features

[atomic hornet]

That moment when there's too much love and passion for the game

[velvet root]

"Hey guys! Long time no see, I wanna be real with you... We maybe finished the whole game by accident and the Demo is the friends we found along the way!"

[trail hull]

guys what if the full game was the 30 random features we made along the way

[flint tiger]

the game was an april fools joke

pif hoenn is just an add on for the game we have

[viscid fossil]

nah, pif1 was actually the demo for the kanto and johto dlc packs for pif hoenn

[flint tiger]

oh, right

[inland jewel]

may-be?

[tulip sierra]

So, are we talking about a hypothetical game or is there a Hoenn Infinite Fusion coming?

[sacred pagoda]

I mean we do have a whole channel but maybe they made it and all the stuff in #dev-updates and #announcements as a troll

?tag hoenn

[opal trail]

Pokemon Infinite Fusion: Hoenn is not available yet! For more information, please check the pinned FAQ in #pif-hoenn-discussion. For development updates, you can get the "Dev Update Pings" role in #roles. All previous updates can be found in #dev-updates!

[bold gyro]

It was a gigantic prank

[toxic turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/otter-shock-shocked-otter-utterly-shocking-huh-gif-26697050

[sacred pagoda]

Totally

[lucid oar]

hey paya it's okay that the game didn't come out this month. i'm bummed, obviously, but i want to see a good game at the end of the day, and i'm sure frog and the whole team are working really hard, and if that means i have to wait a bit longer it means i have to wait a bit longer. take your time and dont burn y'allselves out

[atomic hornet]

Thank you, that means a lot 🙂 I had planned on it being so much earlier, but I hope the end result is worth it. I can already say it's more stable than pif1 lol

[sacred pagoda]

I can solidly agree lol

[atomic hornet]

just wait until you test this new mechanic, it might break some things

[sacred pagoda]

Slowly pulls your version onto my PC I was the first to break the game, I LOVE BREAKING THINGS

Though I'm sure Firesword will have fun with it too

[atomic hornet]

We need to give you porygons enrichment. you're running out of bugs

[sacred pagoda]

When the demo releases you should gather up all videos and stupid silly buggy screenshots in our hoenn bug testing thread and make a bloopers video

[atomic hornet]

Frog was planning on it! we wish we had old versions we gave you guys to show those old cursed glitches

[molten loom]

I have like every version saved

[sacred pagoda]

I was about to say

XD

I deleted them just to clear space but

[atomic hornet]

Yessssss!! Frog is going to need them

[molten loom]

totally not because I'm too lazy to clear them out

[sacred pagoda]

Fire's laziness is Frog's saving grace

[sacred pagoda]

Also this is true, we're about to tear up the couch with our blocky porygon bodies if we don't get bugs to test

[atomic hornet]

Firesword ran out of tileset issues and has moved into Frog's strange tile placement choices

[dense cosmos]

I would tell cheeto not to destroy couch, but won't for 2 reasons.

• eevee has a gun.
• sometimes that couch doesn't fit the room and needs to go.

[inner ether]

Since it be gen 3 to 7 would alolan variants be added at some point (can't remember which gen sun and moon is) or just in sprites

Also don't think this is a check pins questions

[sacred pagoda]

Actually it is in the FAQ

:P

[inner ether]

Oh it is and thank you cheeto

[sacred pagoda]

Np

[inner ether]

As I said couldn't remember if sun and moon fell into the 3-7 gen

Amyway how are you doing

[crystal cosmos]

It’s Gen 7

[inner ether]

Ah

[sacred pagoda]

Gen 8 is Sword/Shield/Legends Arceus and Gen 9 is Scarlet/Violet/I guess Legends ZA

[inner ether]

Gen 10 wind and waves with more pikachu variants-.-

[sacred pagoda]

lol

[inner ether]

Like yay new gen booooo more pikachu like I get it your mascot but (insert certain swear here) stop XD

[livid flume]

Gen 7 pokemon finally added ,maybe dev will add legendary from gen 8 or 9

Look at koraidon and miraidon for funny motorcycle fusion

[fringe forge]

gen 8 and above will not be added.

[green laurel]

gen 7 has been added for like years now

[novel sphinx]

Greetings, I'd like to know if there's any news on Pokémon Infinite Fusion Hoenn. Have a good day and a good weekend.

[inland jewel]

#dev-updates

[novel sphinx]

Thanks🙂

[lyric vigil]

when is it coming

[lyric zephyr]

Eventually.

[rancid nymph]

Soon™

[dense cosmos]

We get there when we get there
-# don't make me turn this boat around

[sacred pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/incredibles-bob-parr-the-incredibles-gif-7194125

[velvet root]

Oh yeah nah Im sure you guys make one of the best pkmn fangames again

[trail hull]

even if it takes longer then planned , it will be better. You guys put so much love and passion in it

[jovial karma]

Darn so no scorbunny

Gen 7 will be awesome tho

[inland jewel]

yep using Kommo-o and Golisopod has been great

sad that no gen 7 mons won last year's poll so hopefully this year

[jovial karma]

Yeah that'd be awesome ^^

[full bison]

Araquanid would be really fun to have around. Cool design features to take advantage of for sprites, and a really powerful ability to exploit

[inland jewel]

giving any bug type mon 0 weakness to fire would be lit

<@&306953740651462656>

[craggy nexus]

No it wont thats kinda the point of removing the fire

[inland jewel]

what Water Bubble does is, resist fire moves by 1 stage

and boost water moves by 1 stage

so giving Water Bubble to a Bug Type Araquanid fusion gives it water stab, and removes the fire weakness

[craggy nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-missed-over-your-head-gif-8604199

[inland jewel]

Here is hoping for Hoenn update to update the pokemon stats so its not their gen 5 stats anymore

masquerain with +20 spatk would be lit!!!

or Scoliopede with its +10 hp

[grizzled quartz]

here's a random thought in my head for PIF hoenn: what if the 2 teams (aqua and magma) had there ORAS designs in sprite form

[inland jewel]

you can check out what outfits they have via #dev-updates

one of the videos has the uniforms for them

[crystal cosmos]

Actually I have a little weird question. Since it’s a new game, will all Pokémon have their Gen 7 stat versions? Only asking this because Pokemon in PIF before it updated from Gen 5 to Gen 7 didn’t have their stats changed to be their buffed Gen 7 versions (For example noctowl didn’t get its +10 special attack it got in Gen 7)

[inland jewel]

i was asking earlier today, and apparently, mons from teh 1st game will still have their gen 5 stats, while mons added in hoenn get their gen 7 stats

that is current for now, another person has said that the stat updates was in the backlog but might be pushed forward in the planned upates

[lucid pawn]

I 387,206th this. At the ABSOLUTE worst, I'd rather be disappointed by a late release than an early one, because at least I'll know the people making it weren't rushed to finish it.

And in 2026, we've all seen how TRASH games are when they're rushed.

Not saying I expect them to under deliver tho. PIF slaps and I know PIF Hoenn will too

[inland jewel]

Me when they have said "Demo next month surely" for the 5th time

[hushed axle]

It’ll be April again next year

[crystal cosmos]

But what if they delete April from the calendar next year

[sacred pagoda]

Then my little sister misses her birthday

[hushed axle]

Then we can’t lie about adding monkes on the first again

[potent karma]

Any updates on the release date for PIF Hoenn? I haven't been paying attention recently

[inland jewel]

they have been saying Soon since january

but soon~

they assured us that. "Its in playtesting but we might add something else, but then that needs playtesting too"

repeat since January tbh

[potent karma]

I will definitely be doing a team Aqua run (maybe as my first). I really like Team Aqua (Don't ask why)

(No way no one actually asked why)

[hushed axle]

^

Should be soon™️

[potent karma]

Yay

[lucid oar]

it’s fine anyway as a person who has played geometry dash for years this is hardly the first time I’ve experienced devs saying “the game is coming out soon” for increments of time that are longer than initially expected

as long as the game is out before 7 years from the initial announcement it’ll be good in my books

[hushed axle]

That might be when the full release is

[dense cosmos]

Demo is delayed due to cool shiny thing that must be added.

[fringe forge]

getting distracted by a butterfly vibe

[inland jewel]

Wyvern, this is the 5th time the demo has been delayed because of a cool shiny thing that must be added

and it will be delayed at least 3 more times

[civic reef]

We're gonna get the full release before we get the demo

[rancid nymph]

This is the 5th time you’ve shown “the demo has been delayed because of a cool shiny thing” in class

[stable moth]

OK, I just got here and as far as I’m seeing we are not close to an official release date for the update are we?

[hushed axle]

^

It’s also not an update, it’s a new game

[alpine drift]

Look, I need a Water type for when I inevitably try a Unova only run. I need that Water Monkey.

[civic reef]

Ducklett is right there

[lyric zephyr]

Ngl I’m excited for the hoenn game just because I find the region culturally interesting

The graveyard mountain for example. There’s just a lot in the region that points to an interesting history

[alpine drift]

Can't learn Waterfall.

[rancid nymph]

Right there being not in the game

[trail hull]

Theory , hoenn is getting a nuzlocke mode

[trail hull]

I swear , once pifh demo is out I'll look at every time you clueless reacted me to see how much is trolling or not

[slim otter]

What if we just add all of the Unova Water mons

[trail hull]

pif : hydration update

[viscid fossil]

Pif hoenn but team aqua won

[flint tiger]

the rainbow rocket team aqua timeline

[sacred pagoda]

Rainbow Aqua

[flint tiger]

I wonder what that world is like

[real falcon]

That will cascade to the unova starters and the elemental monkeys being added

[fringe forge]

we cant have that happenin

[molten stirrup]

rainbow magma

[dense cosmos]

Rainbow road

[craggy nexus]

adds pringles and nothing else

actually no add carracosta cause that would kinda force archeops

[dense cosmos]

Pringles?

[fringe forge]

my favorite unova pokemon

[fringe forge]

oh

i forgot it exists

[full bison]

Cursed Body is a neat ability. I would be happy to have it around on something that's actually tanky

[inner ether]

How everyone doing today

[karmic oasis]

Good how about you?

[inner ether]

I'm ok

[left sky]

?tag mobilealt

[opal trail]

For some phones, clicking the mobile links from the Android Guide returns a permission error. Use the links below:

• Game link: LINK
• Joiplay and RPG Maker: LINK

[ember pelican]

how to evolve growlithe

[prime dust]

?tag question

[opal trail]

Confused on where to ask your questions?
If you need help on installing or updating the game or to report bugs found within the game, go to #tech-support.
For help on proceeding with the story in the game or if you have a gameplay mechanic question, go to #gameplay-help.
If you need help with team building or strategies, you can go to #playthrough-talk.
For all other questions, you can ask in #general and you may be redirected to the appropriate channel for your question.

[prime dust]

This channel is for sequel talk

[lucid oar]

what pokemon would you fuse Jellicent with to get this

[trail hull]

porygon or itself

[lucid oar]

I need this sprite

frog add Jellicent to the game plz /lh

[inland jewel]

that would then make all the non-legends ghost types added to the game

[trail hull]

I was curious and counting legendary ub we have: jellicent line , hoopa , blacephalon , lunala and marshadow

6 mons total

that's crazy

[rancid nymph]

So Jellicent isn’t the last non-legend ghost type we’re missing

[trail hull]

no

[atomic hornet]

Lol I thought i was missing something, since when is jellicent legendary thought you guys were making a new cult

[rancid nymph]

He said that Jellicent was the last NON legendary ghost type to be added

Which it isn’t, since Blacehpholon isn’t in the game

[hidden relic]

I mean.....

UBs are pretty much the same thing

[rancid nymph]

They’re not

[hidden relic]

Like Frog would totally treat the UBs as legends in terms of the games in terms of like how they'd be added

You're not just throwing Blacephalon on a random route

It's semantics

Like sure you're technically right

UBs are not legends

[rancid nymph]

He might treat them like USUM did, and make them constantly repeatable static encounters

[trail hull]

or like maybe a new wormhole mehanic to ge tubs and repeat legends

[hidden relic]

Either way, Jellicent is the last non-special Ghost type

[gray vine]

eh just have a weather tracker item that instead tracks wormholes that can randomly appear on a route

[hidden relic]

The rest all fall into some category of UB/Mythical/Legend whatever

[trail hull]

that means for team monotype ; that once these 6 mons are added we finished ghost for good (unless frog decides to add gen 8)

[rancid nymph]

Mythicals and Legendarys are the exact same thing

[hidden relic]

Oh but Mythicals are spread through distribution :))

[rancid nymph]

Doesn’t matter. In universe they are the same, so they’re the same thing

[hidden relic]

The only that makes the UBs different is Beast Boost.

It's pretty much the same thing

[rancid nymph]

No, UBs are as common as Pidgey and Rattata in their own universe

[trail hull]

well yes but not ours

[hidden relic]

Ok, but we're not in that universe - it doesn't matter

[rancid nymph]

We can travel to their universe any time

[gray vine]

mythcial to me always felt like "They are rare or almost exctinct" while Legends are one of a kind...Arceus kinda ruins that, tho Arceus does have multiple Bodies across the World

[hazy fable]

-# Unowns

[trail hull]

legendary , expect to be able to catch them every game as post game content
Mythical , can be obtain through distribution , or rarely with an ingame quest

[rancid nymph]

They’re both SUPPOSED to be one of a kind, but Pokémon decided to make them less special in modern games

[gray vine]

Shaymin was always seen as a species

in games and in its movie

Genesect also is just a rare species that was given a mech suit

Phione aswell

can even be bred

Manapy is def considered one of a Kind, Celebi is a weird one cause while techncially multiple exist at the same time. its just the same Celebi Time traveling

Hoopa gives a good explanation for multiple legends/mythicals existing in the same world, considering it can multiverse travel

[viscid fossil]

that one anime episode:

https://tenor.com/view/rawr-lugias-pokémon-show-baby-lugia-gif-6780484758658257411

[gray vine]

clearly a Ditto

[full bison]

I swear TPC has no idea what Lugia is and neither does anyone else

[lucid oar]

hey jelli is special to me 😔

[lucid oar]

actually I think in universe you have it backwards

[full bison]

Only if you have a member of the Cosmog line handy

[lucid oar]

there can be multiple of one legendary (heatran comes to mind)

but frequently with mythical there can only be one (there’s only one Mew, there’s only one Arceus, it’s just god so it can take different forms at once, there’s only one Genesect because it was artificially created)

pokemon lore is of course weird and inconsistent so that’s not always the case

[full bison]

Except there's explicitly multiple Zarude, Diancie is suggested to be rare but still have multiples in existence, and there had to be something that laid that Manaphy egg

[rancid nymph]

Which is exactly why those 3 shouldn’t be considered legendary

[full bison]

Legendary Pokémon have been able to be in multiples for a long while now, since the Latis at the latest, potentially as early as the birds

The Cosmog line is explicitly a species and also boxart legends

Terapagos is also heavily suggested to be a species

[gray vine]

all 3 are mythical

[rancid nymph]

Which is the exact same thing as legendarys

[gray vine]

either way i think you meant Phione and not Manaphy when saying that

Phione shouldnt be, cause it can breed and def exists multiple times

Manaphy is 100% a one of a Kind

not to mention the Egg logic isnt that interesting cause i mean then Arceus also isnt

not to mention the egg in both cases just supports my idea more that mythical are just rare Mons

[lucid oar]

they used to be, but they are no longer

[rancid nymph]

They still are. I don’t care what TPC says

[full bison]

Mythical is a meaningless distinction that provides nothing to the world but an opportunity for smart alecks to put in an "um actually" into an otherwise civil discussion around Pokémon to instantly cause arguments

[rancid nymph]

Also, having Pokémon be event exclusive is stupid in the first place

[lucid oar]

not gonna argue with this lmao

[gray vine]

i mean the argument only starts after. They are legend" "well actually they are mythical" and there ya go thats where it should end since thats correct. The Argument is started when the person doesnt accept mythicals as existing

[full bison]

The argument would not begin if the meaningless distinction didn't

The events distribution distinction doesn't even work anymore considering it's becoming less and less applicable ever since Deoxys in Episode Delta

[trail hull]

ZA even had some mythical catchable in the dlc

[magic radish]

Dev updates?

[prime dust]

#dev-updates

still currently slated for a demo Soon™

[inner ether]

Can't change my nature in the original game right?

[green laurel]

?tag question

[opal trail]

Confused on where to ask your questions?
If you need help on installing or updating the game or to report bugs found within the game, go to #tech-support.
For help on proceeding with the story in the game or if you have a gameplay mechanic question, go to #gameplay-help.
If you need help with team building or strategies, you can go to #playthrough-talk.
For all other questions, you can ask in #general and you may be redirected to the appropriate channel for your question.

[inner ether]

Fair enough I'll move it there

[inner ether]

Just thought of something if it hasn't been thought of yet having it where you buy multiple tens of pokeballs you get say 50 pokeballs you given the 5 Premier balls

[green laurel]

its been put in #game-suggestions a few times

[velvet root]

Isnt that already the case

[fringe forge]

you get 1 premier ball no matter how many you buy over 10

you need to buy them in stacks of 10 to get more

[forest crown]

so is hoenn getting added

yay

[silver rune]

Hi, when will IF Hoenn be completed? Is there a specific date?

[spiral musk]

2 victims found pinned to death back to back 😔

[shrewd hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-space-gif-23401891

[bleak fog]

I can only assume it's creation will take time...
Of course, personal opinion here, but definitely don't overwork yerselves. Don't be afraid to do it how you did with the original IF; main game + whatever you wanted to add for story reasons and the like, then work on other additions- events, new mons, blah blah blah- over time.

Again, just my two cents.

[sacred pagoda]

It's being actively tested as we speak. Paya and Frog added a couple things in the most recent test version ya'll are gonna love

[prime dust]

did frog finally find a way to sneak in that extra phimsch

[inland jewel]

nope just more missions, easter eggs, and other fun stuff

since when the demo releases it will be the last major content update for the demo until either full release or demo 2 (which will be in like 3 years)

so they want to give as much stuff as they can fit

[prime dust]

at this rate it'll be "the demo is out, btw its actually just the full game bye...."

[final zinc]

When will the next infinite fusion game come out?

[urban snow]

Everyone saying soon so I guess in another 1 to 3 years we are looking at

[sacred pagoda]

?tag hoenn

[opal trail]

Pokemon Infinite Fusion: Hoenn is not available yet! For more information, please check the pinned FAQ in #pif-hoenn-discussion. For development updates, you can get the "Dev Update Pings" role in #roles. All previous updates can be found in #dev-updates!

[sacred pagoda]

It is lit in the pins of this channel

[final zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-cat-okay-cat-cat-ok-cat-okay-thumbs-up-crying-cat-gif-14516071108819125230

[sacred pagoda]

Demo should be out soon with no definite ETA

The reason we're all saying soon is due to the lack of an eta

[sacred pagoda]

Demo is soon, full game probably not till next year

[urban snow]

So I was right about the full game probably not until next year or later

[sacred pagoda]

Yes. I believe that's what Paya said anyway. But the demo has a nice amount of content

A lot of what's being worked on/bug tested are QOL features

[urban snow]

Do u know how many gyms will be in the demo I just want to see if it worth playing the demo

[sacred pagoda]

I'd tell you but then I'd lose my Porygon job

.

[urban snow]

Well there going to be bugs we can't fix all the bugs tbh its a new fan game after all

[white dew]

Still feel like a Fusion of both hoenn pseudos would be a suitable ace for Steven

[sacred pagoda]

Frog has the IT team bugtesting it. And Firesword especially is good at thinking outside the box for possible bugs XD

[urban snow]

I understand that and I don't want u to lose your job can u atleast its alot of content and its worth to play the demo

[sacred pagoda]

It's a lot of content yes

And a LOT of changes from base Emerald storyline

[molten loom]

And brute forcing some things to try and make them break

[urban snow]

So its kinda like a remake from the original games hoeon games then

[sacred pagoda]

But it will only be available for Windows I think, the priority is finishing the game not working on the workarounds

[white dew]

Will kyodonquaza factor into the plot?

[sacred pagoda]

Demo isn't far enough to know that for us

Only paya and frog know that one lol

[white dew]

Would make sense imo

[sacred pagoda]

The FAQ and #announcements / #dev-updates give a lot of information

Think Paya might also have a YT video

[urban snow]

One more question and last one please

[prime dust]

42

[molten loom]

there was also a showcase stream for a very early version of the demo from november

[sacred pagoda]

Yeah I was a minor part of that but I couldn't stay I think

[urban snow]

Will all the pokemon from the kanto fusion games will be in the demo and full game

[sacred pagoda]

Yes

[urban snow]

Lets go

[sacred pagoda]

There will also be transfer between the two games

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/eventually-finally-amanda-gif-5156866

nooooo, the gif borked

[sacred pagoda]

Idk if that'll be added when demo or full game releases. It's in the demo and I've used it to move mons between saves without NG+

[molten loom]

sometimes you just got to try like this

[urban snow]

So the hoeno pokemon that was not adding to the other fusion game will be added you are saying

[prime dust]

probably the full game

[sacred pagoda]

I wish I even thought to try that XD

Like how the fuck did you discover running along the fence to escape the demo

[prime dust]

i believe either frog or pory or paya confirmed the transfer box wouldn't be in the demo

[molten loom]

-# real answer is adhd wandering

[sacred pagoda]

It is in the demo, it's just possible it won't be compat with PIF:1

[prime dust]

that kid of defeats the purpose of the box

[sacred pagoda]

I have ADHD too

:')

[sacred pagoda]

Include a right away at the end of that message

But it is in the game

[flint tiger]

What we lack in attention, we make up for it with hyperactivity

[inland jewel]

2 since they said the demo goes to Slateport

[inland jewel]

from what i heard, the box is in the demo, it just isn't compatible with PIF 1

which is why they have said, that after the demo releases, they will have a larger sample size for see if there are any bugs related to it, and then ship it to PIF 1

which will be around 3 months after the demo comes out

[urban snow]

2 gyms yikes but maybe there will be a demo 2 that gose to 4 or 5 gyms before the game is fully out

[sacred pagoda]

But there's a good amount of content in those five areas it appears longer than it is. The sprite team went hard on the visuals

[molten loom]

I mean its 2 gyms and the introduction of the evil teams

• a bunch of quests

[sacred pagoda]

Sadly we do not get contests in the demo

[molten loom]

yeah those are going to take quite a bit of work to function properly with fusions and stuff

[inland jewel]

well they have said that progress on the demo will come to a standstill after this release, they don't plan on making a 2nd demo are are going to full release, but if enough time has passed they might consider a demo 2

The Timeline currently:
This year: Demo is released.
Anytime after that: Full game is released

[sacred pagoda]

Well no Frog can still fix bugs

For ya'll

[inland jewel]

yeah but at most its bug fixes, there won't be any major updates like Gyms 3-5, new routes, etc

[sacred pagoda]

There's more content than ya'll think squeezed into the demo tho

[inland jewel]

yes, i understand that, I am explaining that he shouldn't expect an update to add Gyms 3-5 and the routes that connect them

[sacred pagoda]

A wild Frogzilla has spawned

[inland jewel]

spawning again to prove me wrong

more likely than you think

[spice sage]

No there will definitely be more updates after the demo. I want to follow something similar to how PIF1 was released. The timeline I have in mind is something like
Release 1: Gyms 1-2
Release 2: Gyms 1-6
Release 3 :Up to the league
Release 4: Postgame

Something like that. Take this with a huge grain of salt though, it will almost certainly change and there is no release date planned for any of these atm

The thing about the demo, is that it's not so much a "tech demo" as it is just the beginning of the game hahah

[molten loom]

1-2*

[sacred pagoda]

Frog made a typo ig

;)

[spice sage]

Maybe also some updates that focus on secret bases or contests or stuff like that instead of story. We'll see

[urban snow]

So there updates leading to the full game release then ????

[inland jewel]

so its not stopping at slateport anymore, but we're going to Mauville now?

[sacred pagoda]

Can you pin this?

For easy access

[molten loom]

typo

[urban snow]

I am confused

[spice sage]

The thing about the demo, is that it's not so much a "tech demo" as it is just the beginning of the game hahah

[inland jewel]

yee, the thing is, it has been said multiple times that it was the demo and then working on it till full release.

not anything about content updates as time goes on, so there was my confusion explained

[spice sage]

Tbh calling it a demo is probably a bit of a misnomer if anything

[sacred pagoda]

WIP

;)

No can that message be pinned tho?

[urban snow]

So this person lied to me ????

[inland jewel]

from what they explained, is that The "demo" is released (Is actually just the game until Slateport)

[inland jewel]

and then sometimes later, when its ready, it will go up to Fortree City

[sacred pagoda]

Ty <3

[inland jewel]

I was explaining stuff with the information given to me

literally this is the first time i've ever seen them saying that they had tiered releases scheduled

[sacred pagoda]

So was I, I had no clue Frog planned to release it in fragments lol

[spice sage]

I can add it to the other message ahahah I don't want to clutter the pins

[sacred pagoda]

Probably the better idea lol

[urban snow]

Its fine I am just confused regardless what ya are planning it will be a pretty good game once the full release is here

[spice sage]

Nothing is set in stone. But yeah no, doing nothing until a full release is not really a viable plan. It would make QA so much more difficult and I like to integrate player feedback along the way:)

[inland jewel]

Frog should also add to the message: "There is no planned release dates for any of these"

[sacred pagoda]

So Tara and I were wrong, the game will be released in a steps format. It starts at a single step (or maybe 2 steps) and slowly builds being updated every few steps

[wise ridge]

Don't pull a silksong

[urban snow]

Gotcha I understand now when the demo comes out the game makers will work on an update to expand the game farther and keep working on these steps until release day

[sacred pagoda]

Exactly!

[rancid nymph]

Who’s the game father and why are we expanding him

[urban snow]

Ok thanks sorry for calling u a lier @inland jewel its confusing when everyone is putting there info in and other are saying different things

[sacred pagoda]

Frogs can expand

[wise ridge]

They can also remove their stomachs from their stomach

[inland jewel]

Frog expanded the dev team thats for sure

[sacred pagoda]

Frogzilla is the creator so if he comes in and says something that contradicts our statement, trust him and not us

Hence that (dev) in his username

[urban snow]

Auto correct u got to hate it

[inland jewel]

Yep, whatever information we say, is what Frog has given us from his #dev-updates and other messages he says here

[wise ridge]

Or wait blindly for the demo without looking at any information and check the server every day for a ping

[sacred pagoda]

Paya as well

[inland jewel]

of course that can be outdated if he doesn't say anything about his change of plans

[wise ridge]

||I really gotta stop doing this||

[sacred pagoda]

Just turn pings on

[urban snow]

I am on here everyday checking and seeing if the demo or some kind of release is out

[spice sage]

soooooon!

[wise ridge]

I have them on lol I'm just impatient

[urban snow]

I know

[sacred pagoda]

Do you and Paya have anything else planned after the latest test for the porygons

[urban snow]

Me and you both lol

[sacred pagoda]

:P

[inland jewel]

don't worry its only approaching the 5th month of Soon (tm)

[hidden relic]

The day that this demo comes

Is the day that I get to have

So. Much. Fun.

[topaz cloak]

Saaame

[wise ridge]

So like soon or soon with a tm

[sacred pagoda]

That's what I said about Kingdom Hearts 3

13 years between KH2 and KH3 btw so really honestly not that different from PIF:1 and PIF:H :D

[spice sage]

Next step for the porygons will probably be qa testing on the next PIF1 update

[molten loom]

and the day porygons suffer the "how to get the demo" and other questions every five minutes

[spice sage]

Actually soon hopefully. The demo is pretty much fully ready, we're just waiting on a few other things

[sacred pagoda]

Gotcha!

[inland jewel]

Porygons are also gonna get the qustion. "How to trade between Hoenn and Kanto

[sacred pagoda]

Got my schedule changed at the worst time

[wise ridge]

I'm sure quality assurance is thaaaat important

[spice sage]

I think that the hoenn demo is genuinely more stable than pif1 now

[wise ridge]

Love that

[sacred pagoda]

As a bugtester

It is

[molten loom]

same

[sacred pagoda]

It already is Frog

[inland jewel]

i for one am waiting for the bugfix update that Sapph has been trying to push for years now

[sacred pagoda]

Lmao

Hopefully PIF:1 comes with all those bugfixes

And the QOL updates arriving with Hoenn

[molten loom]

and for the celadon trashcan to be fixed again for real this time again wrong trash can, thought it was the vermillion on mb

[wise ridge]

Can I still walk in that one rock on the path between viridian and victory road

[sacred pagoda]

Idk

[wise ridge]

So fair

[prime dust]

the only trashcan that needs to be fixed is in vermillion

[molten loom]

oh right

my brain got them confused

[wise ridge]

Just

Don't confuse them

[molten loom]

too much time in hoenn

[prime dust]

don't worry cause i checked the patch notes ages ago trying to find out when frog "removed" the one that was borked and couldn't find it

[spice sage]

I genuinely don't remember what the celadon trashcan problem was lol

[prime dust]

lmao

[molten loom]

it has been over 5 years tbf

[prime dust]

well, we could easily check, since versions predating 5.0 have downloads

the fun bit is figuring out which trash can

[molten loom]

I think it was a crash

[prime dust]

because i assume there's a lot of them

[prime dust]

yes but what the crash was

is a separate problem

[molten loom]

wonder if it was the fusion in the bin

[spice sage]

Ohhh that's probably it actually

[wise ridge]

Love everyone forgetting things about this trashcan

It's funny

[prime dust]

look at least that one was fixed, meanwhile the vermillion can still plagues us

[wise ridge]

What kinda plague

[molten loom]

its missing and the switch can still spawn in it

[prime dust]

the plague where the game can still choose it as either the first or second button of the gym despite technically being off screen

[prime dust]

less missing, more frog moved it because it was causing a crash

[wise ridge]

So not the black plague

[prime dust]

it still exists, since for some reason if it is removed the puzzle breaks

but it is off screen, unreachable

[molten loom]

Wonder if its the haunted event #22

[wise ridge]

I've probably encountered that bug in my 6000 times of going through those trash cans

[wise ridge]

How does it choose it as the second one I thought it had to be right next to the first one

[prime dust]

it has to be

go look at the trash cans in the gym

the left side is missing a can

in the top left corner

[wise ridge]

Ohhh

[urban snow]

I know i am probably talking about the future but will we see gen 4 fusion game

[wise ridge]

That's so far in the future

[urban snow]

I know

[wise ridge]

Considering we didn't get a second game announcement until a decade

[urban snow]

True but also they added johto and kanto in the same game anyways

[inland jewel]

thats simply because LGFR has both kanto and Johto in the game

[urban snow]

I understand that and same with hg and ss

[sacred pagoda]

FRLG have both regions? Isn't that GSC/HGSS?

[molten loom]

frlg doesn't its just gsc hgss

[sacred pagoda]

Okay glad to know I'm not insane lol

[prime dust]

you are insane though

everyone is crazy

the difference is the level of crazy

[viscid fossil]

Crazy?
I was crazy once

[sacred pagoda]

[fringe forge]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-i-was-crazy-once-locked-me-in-a-room-a-rubber-room-a-rubber-room-with-rats-gif-16657349004158031608

[atomic hornet]

Hi guys, been busy in here so yeah, calling it a demo isn't really accurate anymore and its been bothering me for while. I'm thinking it might be best and less confusing to call it Part 1 or something

Originally it was gonna stop at a point a lot sooner, but we added too much lol

Like.. demo would have been fine up to Rustburo lol

[fringe forge]

We are steps away from having pif hoenn release like a netflix show

[quaint matrix]

Idk if this is the right move guys

[atomic hornet]

Slateport is basically double the content lol

[quaint matrix]

It's not like Deltarune where its an entirely new game you can proportion off because no one knows what's the real end of it

People knew when Hoenn ends proper and you're going to actually just feel the artificiality of the "hey nope sorry we haven't developed anything past Slateport yet guys maybe later!"

Might just be me though but I don't know how much I like the "Part 1" designation since it separates off the Hoenn experience and stopped you right on the track

[atomic hornet]

Well that's kinda how it is changing the name doesn't change that there is a cut off point. But you'll be able to continue playing and exploring the areas before the end point

[quaint matrix]

I suppose

The gating feels a lot less nicer than if this was explicitly a demo personally still

Idk I'm just thinking this channel will continue to do the pin ritual but now it's "so when's part 2 guys?????"

[atomic hornet]

It was gonna be like that regardless

[molten loom]

We call it 1.0, surely what worked with pif 1 will totally work with it now much more popular and will never be misunderstood

[quaint matrix]

I suppose my thing is purely just the optics of it lol

[molten loom]

imo early access would also work

[quaint matrix]

I think the terming of "part 1" implies a finished product is all with additional parts coming up next

Deltarune is a finished game proper (though the story is woefully simple) if you just play Part 1

[sacred pagoda]

If it wasn't being released in segments it would be demo soon and then the rest of it next year

This way it keeps people invested in following it tbh

[quaint matrix]

But then that's just early access

A demo is finished up to a certain point, and then a full product comes out later

[sacred pagoda]

Which is fine, Paya already said she didn't like calling it a demo

[quaint matrix]

Indeed

But calling it "parts" is where it loses me imo

[sacred pagoda]

Since it is technically early access. I remember Wolf Quest anniversary edition did this and it was great playing it as it grew

[inland jewel]

at this point it might just be called 0.1 to notate it isn't a finished product but will release more stuff later

[quaint matrix]

Yeah

[sacred pagoda]

Actually what it is on the title screen LOL

Idk if the finished E.Release will be this but right now our bugtesting version is this XD

[lucid oar]

only accepting the demo as being up to gyms 1-2 if you let us fight norman after as the demo's final boss /j

[velvet root]

Would be funny if they release pif Sinnoh and act like whoopsy daisy

[sacred pagoda]

Have a sinnoh town for fun. Or Unova actually since Skyla has an airport there and could arrange a flight for the MC

Ngl Unova might be the most doable mainline region because of Skyla, but no extra regions are planned at this time

Irony since in irl geography it's the furthest away XD

[velvet root]

Still want Orre

[sacred pagoda]

Which game is Orre again

[shy condor]

pokemon coloseum/gale of darkness

[sacred pagoda]

Ahh

Games I still need to play

[prime dust]

gale of darkness is on switch 2 now thankfully, coloseum is still mia from their store [though it was announced]

[velvet root]

April 1 they pranked us with Monkeys and Orre
Would have been peak addition

[sacred pagoda]

Not enough water in Orre

[velvet root]

I mean it would be a nice mirror to Hoenn
And basically giving pif gen 3 more double battles sound fun

[white dew]

Could be an interesting game mode

[slow kraken]

I still have hope for elemental monkeys being added as an april fools joke in the future, I need my goats

[velvet root]

I need my Goat too

My Gogoat

[plucky shadow]

Does this chat mean Hoenn got released?

[fringe forge]

short answer
read the pinned message
long answer
not yet

ik the logic in that statement is false shush

[rancid nymph]

I think you mixed up the long and short answer

[fringe forge]

i refuse to edit it

i stand by it

[ivory seal]

This is hilarious

[fringe forge]

then im glad i wrote it

[urban snow]

???? Old update

[sacred pagoda]

No PIF Hoenn

Tara said use 0.1 and I was showing that's what was on the title screen

Would be beneficial to read more than just the screenshot :P

[urban snow]

Ok sorry but is the demo out now or is this a test to see if the demo is ready

[sacred pagoda]

Answer is no different since the last time you asked lmao

[urban snow]

Ok

[sacred pagoda]

You'd see a ping in #announcements / #dev-updates if it were out

Porygons are bugtesting the demo

As you already were told

[urban snow]

Ok

[rancid nymph]

?tag reading not just for NPC dialogue

[opal trail]

You should try to read NPC dialogue! They give very good hints on how to continue the game. Sometimes they also give you items! Don't forget to talk to NPC's and read what they say.

[final wave]

Gn Pokémon trainers and credit card drainers

[inland jewel]

demo is out only for people on the mod team

but look at that, the mod applications are closed and over with

[molten loom]

Porygons and staff

[prime dust]

only porygons are closed, which confuses me since a there was an addition after that was put up

[hushed axle]

Addition from a previous porygon that I had made an exception for before they closed

Also chanseys are closed too

[versed mesa]

About how long from PIF1's demo release was up to the Kanto league completed?

[sacred pagoda]

[molten loom]

PIF kanto 1.0 was

[sacred pagoda]

But I don't think it was as extensively bugtested and it didn't have all of the QOL features we have now

Which is why Hoenn is taking longer

[versed mesa]

ah okay so up to 2nd gym then 1 year for 3 more gyms, much more features and to fix all the bugs along the way.

That's cool that the bugs are being ironed out before its released to us, I like that a lot

[sacred pagoda]

There isn't a set timeframe. Most of the QOL stuff is being added to the first release

Yeah honestly it's better to release something stable than to rush <3

[versed mesa]

oh for sure, I was just reflecting what your screenshot shows, not that its the exact timetable for PIF2

[sacred pagoda]

Valid

[inner ether]

How the staff doing

[inner ether]

Idk if it possible but would it be possible to do weather effects to stay on the screen like if you used sandstorm it stays blowing on the screen till it ends?

[inner ether]

Well that be cool but I was referring to in battles like it stays on the screen not disappear into the background like it normally does

[sacred pagoda]

I don't think that's a good idea. I think using them in the overworld is good enough. Especially since in battle weather is temporary

It's not meant to stay

And if your opponent uses those moves it can be incredibly inconvenient

[quaint matrix]

If the real Pokemon games can't make weather effects permanently animated on their own games' battle screen

I don't think Frog can either

[inland jewel]

im pretty sure what they're asking for is when the animatino for rain dance or sandstorm is played, it just doesn't end until the weather expires or the weather is replaced

though i dont know how feasible that is to actually impliment

since the battle continues once the animation ends....

[west sonnet]

Also, imo it would make the battle ui noisy

[dense cosmos]

In real life, it wouldn't be fun.
You want to water your flowers with rain dance? No. Your neighbor was enjoying the sun.
Then all of a sudden a sandstorm appears.

[sacred pagoda]

You want to water your flowers with rain dance? No. Your neighbor was enjoying the sun.

You can still use them in the overworld LOL. So you can still torment your shitty neighbors

[rancid nymph]

And that’s how the war between Groudon and Kyogre started

[fathom kettle]

Do we have a release date for pif hoenn?

[prime dust]

Demo = Soon™
Full Release = 2027+

Frog may push out some more demos that are further along to get more feedback, fix bugs the staff missed, test new things [ex: the transfer box], etc.

[sacred pagoda]

There's been an update on this actually

[sacred pagoda]

It's more of an early release that'll be uploaded in sections

[atomic hornet]

Yep, that's why we're considering calling it part 1 instead of demo, since it's evolved a lot since we started, and we want to release in parts from now on. Going from demo to part 2 would be confusing, and we're not a fan of demo 1, demo 2 and etc. We talked about it, and Frog feels that calling it demo means there's not a whole lot and that people should just wait for the full game. What we're releasing is technically the full game, but just cut off at certain points as we continue development. We want to release as we go, and haven't started the next part, but the player's saves from part 1 will certainly be able to continue where it left off when part 2 releases

Like, demo was the phrase used when we planned on it stopping at Rustburo, but theres at least if not more double the content now. Might even say that's its almost the first 4th-3rd of the full game

[spice sage]

Yeah it's more of a early access than a demo

[atomic hornet]

Apparently this was bothering both of us lol. Could also go with beta

[rancid nymph]

Full Release = Eventually™

[crimson pelican]

Um, if this is hoenn, I have one big question. Will the game have the battle frontier?

[quaint matrix]

Pokemon Fangame Early Access is crazy (but it is the right move and term as I've talked yesterday lol)

[rancid nymph]

We’re a long ways off from the battle frontier

[inland jewel]

we're only on slateport, battle frontier is not a thought right now

[full bison]

Really hoping it does end up happening considering we've gone almost 2 decades without it in the mainline cause "dang kids and their phones," but it's not something to expect for potentially years

[prime dust]

oh god, frog turning PIF Hoenn into an Early Access game that is in that state for years

https://tenor.com/view/burning-office-spongebob-on-fire-gif-13729593

[fringe forge]

it will be a better release then anything nintendo will release anyway

[prime dust]

I didn't specify Nintendo

[fringe forge]

i did

i hate nintendo

[prime dust]

that statement was directed at any game that stays in EA for more than 1-2 years

[full bison]

I don't mind early access stuff so long as it doesn't pull a Star Citizen

[prime dust]

we do not speak that name

[fringe forge]

im not refering to your statment

im making my own

[rancid nymph]

We’re not getting the battle frontier until at least 2034

[dense cosmos]

New player: "so uh, how do I get to Watson in the early access?"

[fringe forge]

you download more ram

[inland jewel]

now do we want the battle frontier? or do we want to go to a 2nd region

we gotta decide

[rancid nymph]

Why not both?

[quaint matrix]

Granted the game will stop being EA until 2040

[dense cosmos]

We fail navigating the ocean and end up in pif alola

[full bison]

Space probably

[inland jewel]

We gotta decide on one to come out in 2034

since the battle frontier has all those extra place like pyke queen lucy and the regi guy

[rancid nymph]

An entire second region wouldn’t be done in 2034

[inland jewel]

well it would be the start of it, and thats where Frog will shift his focus

[rancid nymph]

Or, we could do the battle frontier first then do a second region

[lucid oar]

see, the alola games are good enough on their own already though

part of the reason I’m so excited for PIF Hoenn is because I didn’t really enjoy the original Hoenn games

[inland jewel]

Yeah thats an entire 2ndary place like the Sevii islands

[spice sage]

That's the exact state that PIF1 has always been anyway

[lucid oar]

so in the hypothetical universe where we kidnap frog and hide him in our collective basement and force him to make another region I would vote for Kalos or Sinnoh

[rancid nymph]

So when is the full PIF1 coming out then

[prime dust]

nah PIF has just now come out of beta

we're pulling a Warframe

just with less space ninjas and 0 monetization