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#pif-hoenn-discussion
grave jolt
winged cloud
grave jolt
Try Again next year (Joke)
grave jolt
still waiting for my fave and that's not even gen 7😔
winged cloud
How do i not have a pachirisu emoji wth
grave jolt
winged cloud
grave jolt
molten bough
please add this pokemons T-T
flint tiger
https://tenor.com/view/pachirusu-gif-25491343
autumn radish
please add this pokemons T-T
Considering that we got Minior, having Solrock and Lunatone would be kinda cool... Maybe for some solar/lunar related fusions, and even better if Solgaleo and Lunala are added as well, which would be a good fit.
molten bough
Not only that, with solrock and lunatune you could do something similar to what happens with lycanroc, and make two forms of the same pokemon but inspired by night and day.
autumn radish
I agree.
Plus, both Lunatone and Solrock could have their use for fusion on stat related, Lunatone being helpful for special attackers and Solrock being good for physical attackers.
Especially with Solrock getting some neat synergy with, say, Lurantis, considering that Solrock learns Zen Headbutt.
gray vine
Crabominable based
finite reef
Patrat 🗣️
fathom ridge
Vikavolt in electric, W
carmine iris
hallow kindle
W
grave jolt
i chose the mons i'd add to PIF if i could
That's a good idea tbh
Wait Spoink is psychic type?
finite reef
What type did you think it was?
hushed axle
Prolly normal
grave jolt
Yeah I thougt spoink was normal since it's a pig
tacit saddle
Scolipede!!!!!
grave jolt
instead of a favorite pokemon picker
For my choices for IF
This feels like a meme linup
gray vine
i see the fucking bw movie studio monster on there lul
and black lugia?
why pick things that arent real, or was there just nothing else
and Hat Pikachu is already in IF
grave jolt
- The pick for Majin is because there's only one choice left in each of those slots. Jellecent for Ghosts, Mandibuzz for Dark.
- Shadow Lugia is because all other Gen 3 legends are in the game (except Deoxys forms)
- I have Aegislash because all Gen 6 non-mega steel types are in the game
- The choice for gen 7 electric was between Charjabug and Togedemaru for me.
solar zenith
Shadow Lugia is already an alternate sprite for normal lugia the last time i checked
ocean mesa
Is it true that you can find fomantis in flowers? Also is it in route 5? Haven't seen it yet
inland jewel
Is it true that you can find fomantis in flowers? Also is it in route 5? Haven't...
route 2
any of the oricorio flowers
its just like a 1% chance
so you gotta spam
silent acorn
i chose the mons i'd add to PIF if i could
Lol vivillion
silent acorn
This feels like a meme linup
My deerest friend
silent acorn
Best deer
sand plover
Y'all got furfrou up in here? Fur coat would be funny
full bison
Sadly no.
A lot of people were really expecting it too, given this was the customization update
dull adder
Alas my silly guys have missed the game again
flint tiger
we do kinda need pachirisu
prime dust
we do kinda need pachirisu
flint tiger
https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-happy-dance-hyper-gif-25491309
go on and tell pachirisu they aren’t getting into if
prime dust
ok, which one , there's 3
distant hollow
please add this pokemons T-T
wait, someone else who actually wants to see these two in game? pinch me, i must be dreaming......
distant hollow
I agree.
Plus, both Lunatone and Solrock could have their use for fusion on stat...
their typings would probably have to be flipped for the sake of fusions making sense (psychic/rock rather than rock/psychic) but a girl can wish upon a falling star
flint tiger
I meant like pachirisu the pokemon itself, tell the happy dancing squirrel they ain’t getting in to infinite fusion
tho ig the first one? dont think I’ve seen the other two
clear lichen
Mega Rayquaza is listed as your favourite Pokemon, yet Zygarde Complete is better than that somehow
Zygarde Complete sweep I guess
And even better than Zygarde Complete is Ash Greninja
But what's better than Ash Greninja?
Yveltal
What's better than Yveltal?
Zygarde
Yeahhhhhh
This is part of why I'm not a massive fan of that favourite Pokemon chart
Another reason being, why do that when you can just rank every Pokemon ever and refer to your tierlist to see who's the top in what category?
Well, apart from actually having a life
molten latch
I've return
tender plank
hiya
trail hull
Hello
It might be a dumb question but am I the only oen that feels things will never be the same again
prime dust
It might be a dumb question but am I the only oen that feels things will never b...
they won't
you aren't alone, the server and the game will be changed forever and i doubt it will properly recoup
it might get to a decent point again but, damage has been done
trail hull
oh ok , I'm glad to hear it wasn't just a me thing
anyways soon I will reach slurpuff pokefan (50 slurpuff sprites)
I will finally be free from slurpuff
proud lion
How much longer until this channel gets archived (probably for years)?
ripe wigeon
NEVER~NEVER~
proud lion
Let the Frogster breathe before another 100K batch. I don’t think getting batches every 100K will be feasable. Give it a settle-down until around August or so
wispy pawn
i need me that zygarde
necrozma/zygarde would go too hard
ima calculate necrozma zygarde better fusion
sadly the typing is worse
atk 102, def 114, spd 90, hp 101, sp. atk 112,sp.def 91
base necrozma and 50% zygarde hit 610, higher than their originals
ultra necrozma and 100% zygarde calc would be fun
i aint doing that tho
dear lord 100% zygarde could be a head with that hp stat of 216
ultra necrozma is better in the other stats tho but barely better in sp.def
but ultra necrozma is also way faster
and the attack is also higher
wait a second
when they reach full potential inverse fusion is better
the typing is better too
psychic dragon is a good combo
although they have no effect on eachothers weakness
trail hull
Let the Frogster breathe before another 100K batch. I don’t think getting batche...
There isn’t going to be a 600K batch
elder dome
At this point every type has a legendary pokemon except Poison, so I think Eternatus could be cool but it's a gen 8 pokemon.
queen grove
At this point every type has a legendary pokemon except Poison, so I think Etern...
Does Poiple count, or no?
elder dome
Does Poiple count, or no?
It dosen't have the Base stat total, also it's the only Ultra Beast whose Base stat total isn't 570.
queen grove
Neat, didn't know that. 🙂
elder dome
Neat, didn't know that. 🙂
It has the same base stat total as gyarados and milotic at 540.
The only reason I suggest Eternatus is beacuse poison type's pokemon with the highest base stat total is Crobat at 535.
queen grove
Yea... Not many poison types get a lot of love. Draglage is about the only one I use that isn't over gen 7.
Crobat is good... Not really using it for poison typing though.
proud lion
At this point every type has a legendary pokemon except Poison, so I think Etern...
The Three Kitakami “Heroes”:
elder dome
https://tenor.com/view/wario-mario-super-mario-mario-kart-wario-appear-gif-11447...
Their designs are cool but their base stats are only 555. The only Poison type pokemon whose base stats are kinda high are Eternatus at 690 and Pecharunt at 600. Personally I think Eternatus is the better looking of the two.
ocean mesa
route 2
I found one the first time I clicked on the flowers but it has a bad nature. I have not found once since, I've just been spamming the flowers like crazy lol.
Has anyone else found Fomantis and how??
elder dome
I found one the first time I clicked on the flowers but it has a bad nature. I h...
I think you're in the wrong chat.
ocean mesa
I thought this was about the new pokemon
elder dome
I thought this was about the new pokemon
I think this chat is about suggesting new pokemon to be added, judging by previous chat messages. You might want to check playthrough-talk.
inland jewel
I think this chat is about suggesting new pokemon to be added, judging by previo...
It’s discussions and speculation of upcoming new Pokémon
This batch is over so this chat is now redundant
I give it another week before they nuke this chat
trail hull
I hope this chat will be reopened in 2025
rain locust
the typing is better too
no ground is way better to have stab tarrows
hollow plume
queen grove
My poor squiddy boi... 
fallen loom
Why the hell do people hate auto genned dex entries???
they've been a thing for YEARS and they made fusions more unique
so what's the deal?
what next, removing all genned sprites?
tacit saddle
fallen loom
I get AI gets hate, I just don't think it applies here
tacit saddle
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExeXpobDl6M3czcm9pbDI1aTR5ZW96NnRnY3c...
aka: its over, stop talking about it
fallen loom
especially since the AI used here is super old and removing something because people are making money off of BS is a retrocative disaster
I just don't think removing dex entries will solve anything
outside of making this game less interesting
unless SOMEONE wants to make 100s of thousands of dex entries by hand
"No, only fusions with custom sprites and dex entries are allowed to exist!"
tacit saddle
dude, it's over
fallen loom
AI is only an issue when someone PROFITS OFF OF IT, people are seriously attacking the wrong people here
tacit saddle
there is no reason to keep ranting about it
it caused such an intense divide in the community that the server shut down for 3 days
any feature that causes that is not worth it
period
now stop dragging this on
fallen loom
so what's going to happened to genned sprites and dex entries then? Will those fusions not exist anymore?
tacit saddle
the removal of the ai dexes did not affect fusions or sprites
whatsoever
its just text
fallen loom
so blank dex entries?
tacit saddle
basically a notice saying "this doenst have a custom dex, consider submitting one in the discord"
we've seen a spike in activity in #dex-entries-discussion
you cant make everyone happy in this big of a server, but if one side is comprised of artists for the game, you kind of have to listen to the contributors
but that's it
again: a decision has been made
eager jungle
For the love of whatever God you're praying, don't bring back the conversation, it's over now
proud lion
Will Fusion Day (8/8) still be a thing next year?
proud lion
What's fusion day
It was in the announcements back in August
Will it happen again or will it be a one-time thing?
eager jungle
It was in the announcements back in August
Lemme read first x)
proud lion
With Frog looking like to be on infinite hiatus according to Discord, I feel like it could be a one time thing. Gonna miss da movie nights. 
eager jungle
With Frog looking like to be on infinite hiatus according to Discord, I feel lik...
Well frog is resting from the drama
proud lion
Which is understandable
And the holidays
Hoping the “Infinite” on Infinite Hiatus is a ploy on the game’s name
eager jungle
Hoping the “Infinite” on Infinite Hiatus is a ploy on the game’s name
It's indefinite not infinite
inland jewel
Will it happen again or will it be a one-time thing?
Well, from what i understand of Fusion Day, it was just a guy who wanted to do something since it was the one year aniversary of new mons. And Frog said "ok, since we can also tie that into the 500K milestone
so unless teh guy wants to host it again, or someone else does the work to host it
even then, new mon won't be guarenteed since Frogman's inclusion of Fusion day was new mon
and he might not want to add new mon for next Fusion day.
especially considering what happened this time around
fast frost
Sorry I have been lurking a lot but still don't get, what are teh 500k and 600k numbers of for the milestones?
inland jewel
Sorry I have been lurking a lot but still don't get, what are teh 500k and 600k ...
people in the Discord
its why the banner says Congrats 500K
it was around then we got 500,000 discord peeps in this server
fast frost
Ahh I see
inland jewel
But what I can see happening is that the host runs the poll again just to give Frogman an updated list of what mons people want to see in the game,
and if he ever does decide to add more mons, he can choose between what he watns to add, and what the community wants to add
prime dust
But what I can see happening is that the host runs the poll again just to give F...
here's the short answer
yes
proud lion
No Fusion Day next year would be understandable but unfortunate at the same time
No more movie marathons
fast frost
8 months out is still a good amount of time
inland jewel
I mean, to begin with, Fusion Day wasn't ever going to happen.
It only happened because that one dude reached out to Frog and asked if he could make it happen
and Frog at the time said yes
I'm sure, asking right now would be a guarenteed No. and planning for such an event takes a lot of time
since you want to know what announcements to prepare for, making sure the events you choose are good to go, finding people to make sure it doesn't go out of hand
gauging interest so that an event doesn't get 0 partcipents
rancid nymph
And with the controversy that didn’t happen, where almost definitely not getting fusion day next year
prime dust
frog will add what he wants, when he wants
and he is taking a break from the game atm
so do not expect additions to happen anytime soon
molten loom
The dev
prime dust
could be tomorrow, could be a few months from now
prime dust
radiant atlas
NOOOOOO
tacit saddle
so do not expect additions to happen anytime soon
yeah the most frog is doing rn is bug fixing
proud lion
It's for the best for their mental health.
grave jolt
Oof, didn't expect that
I wish Frog the best 
finite reef
Why does the Aggron line learn Quiver Dance via TM?
Was it a mistake that was kept as a feature?
trail hull
Oh he updated is username
Almost had a heart attack for a sec because I thought it meant infinite hiatus.
Tho frog can take all the time he wants
clear lichen
Why does the Aggron line learn Quiver Dance via TM?
Apparently it was some kind of joke
I still find it wack that we have a QD TM yet Oricorio still can't learn QD
I know it's an egg move and not a TM move but for crying out loud they gave Spore to Whimsicott I'm sure it's fine
tender plank
Last day of the year, and a grand sparkling Tirtouga Tuesday at that!
How joyous!
prime dust
Almost had a heart attack for a sec because I thought it meant infinite hiatus.
i mean there was talk he had mentioned given some of the stuff that had come up due to the 6.4 update has killed motivation to work on the game...so
distant hollow
I know it's an egg move and not a TM move but for crying out loud they gave Spor...
honestly, i don't feel like that's a valid reason. but then again it's also a brand new move to the mon in scarlet and violet (which it actually only gets via mirror herb), though it would absolutely make sense for it to inherit the move as a tm.
nothing else in the flying egg group gets it normally
small cove
HOW IS THIS CHANNEL STILL ALIVE!?
carmine iris
Some fusions i wanna make
fathom ridge
Calyrex/Alakazam sounds awesome :0
carmine iris
Calyrex/Alakazam sounds awesome :0
full bison
I'd love to see a Glastrier/Calyrex where Calyrex is just carrying the massive ice horse around
carmine iris
thats a good idea actually lol
prime dust
Some fusions i wanna make
shame most of what you listed there will never be in the game
carmine iris
well all of it currently
flint tiger
considering the fusions of calyrex with the horses, it’ll just be calyrex on the other pokemon
carmine iris
i actually love the idea of a pokemon riding another, but in 2039 when the calyrex trio finally get added it would get very boring if every fusion was just them being ridden or riding the other pokemon
and unoriginal
ice rider and shadow rider should be the alt of a new and original fusion hypothetically
prime dust
i actually love the idea of a pokemon riding another, but in 2039 when the calyr...
gen 8+ is never getting added
too risky
carmine iris
i kinda assumed theyd start adding gen 8+ once every pokemon from 1-7 were added
but why is it risky
molten loom
Breaks the game
carmine iris
too many pngs?
prime dust
no
frog would need to manually code in stuff like moves and abilities
gib sec can find the post in question
the long and short of it is doing that would, as fire already said, break the game
either making it nonfunctional at best until frog undid the change, or in the worst case scenario, the game would be dead
carmine iris
dang, rip
prime dust
yeah
carmine iris
gen 8 and 9 have the best designs and i will die on that hill
clear lichen
gen 8 and 9 have the best designs and i will die on that hill
I'm a big fan of Gen 9, and I think I'd rate Gen 8 in the upper half of generations design wise too, but I'm not too sure one that when 3 generations are almost tied for 1st
silk narwhal
i just finished bleach recently (including tybw) and i'm in the mood for some reference sprites
anyone has any ideas?
nevermind, i have one
silent acorn
anyone has any ideas?
Yoruichi Jynx
bronze barn
this channel is still alive?
tender plank
maybe?
wise gyro
Will gen 9 get added
prime dust
Will gen 9 get added
never
wise gyro
Nooooooop
prime dust
anything gen 8+ isn't coming to the game
wise gyro
I wanted ceruledge
prime dust
this being why
carmine iris
elephant enjoyers restricted to donphan
better than copperajah (fuck you copperajah) worse than great tusk
wise gyro
Sword enjoyers being restricted to aegislash, and Haxorus
clear lichen
elephant enjoyers restricted to donphan
Mamoswine:
(Yes, it's a mammoth. Close enough.)
carmine iris
yeah, thats true, but adding a trunk in mamoswine fusions would make people think its donphan
clear lichen
Yeah fair enough, it is a mammoth swine
carmine iris
like considering a mammoth an elephant, its like calling a wolf a dog or a tiger a cat, but mamoswine is more pig like than mammoth like despite being both
i like mamoswine though, pretty creative idea
outer matrix
Imagine if the channel goes away after new years
tender plank
tragic 💔
inland depot
this being why
really kinda fucking sucks because gen 8 and 9 have quite a few mons with themes not seen anywhere else (i.e. Cinderace with the concept of soccer)
hollow plume
a reminder, i want mighters
full bison
I'm perfectly fine with not having "guy in mascot costume" in the current pool of aesthetics to choose from
hexed agate
really kinda fucking sucks because gen 8 and 9 have quite a few mons with themes...
Passimian is a goalie (source: trust)
silk narwhal
Yoruichi Jynx
man, of all pokemon jynx might be the worst ngl
maybe zapdos/meloetta
for her raijin senkei form
or her god of thunder form
dusty arrow
Passimian is a goalie (source: trust)
the entire glalie thing when he came out
hidden relic
Suprised this channel is still here 
hidden relic
Like last time around
tender plank
if i have time to
hidden relic
It disapppeared instantly
rain locust
its bc theres a new mon incoming
hidden relic
The server break would have been a good time to vault it again
hidden relic
its bc theres a new mon incoming
I wish.
rain locust
hidden relic
Actually no I don't
Not yet atleast 
Unless it's Meltan & Melmetal
Then I need them yesterday
tender plank
anyways this is the face i'm making as i have to redo the damn shell on my sprite for the 50th time today (paint.net crashed AGAIN as soon as i had the perfect design🥲)
(this took me the entire day)
carracosta ily but why does your shell design have to be so damn hard to replicate
coarse karma
The server break would have been a good time to vault it again
I was shocked to see it still open too.
velvet root
Actually no I don't
Kinda agree, with what happend
flint tiger
we need some pachirisu
full bison
Frog just deciding to come back alongside a reveal for a new Pokemon would be pretty hype, but I definitely don't see that happening for a decent while
carmine iris
yooo! alomomola! and the crowd goes wild
full bison
I would unironicaly like Alomomola
tender plank
the forgetable one i forgot about
velvet root
yooo! alomomola! and the crowd goes wild
Adding it and make it a Luvdisc evo
full bison
Alomomola would just be all the aesthetic that people use for Luvdisc fusions on a Pokemon with actual stats
I think the 2 that would get the most hype would be Relicanth or Furfrou
carmine iris
yeah alomomola is simply better than luvdisc
velvet root
I think the 2 that would get the most hype would be Relicanth or Furfrou
Single stage line yeah
full bison
I got a much larger sketchbook for Xmas in addition to that drawing kit, so I would have plenty of space to add as much detail as possible to the Relicanth/Rayquaza Sky Pillar mural drawing if it was added
flint tiger
we all know it’s gonna be pachirisu
full bison
Pachi is the only pikaclone I would be ok with
Purely cause it at least tries to be something different
velvet root
Purely cause it at least tries to be something different
Wth no XD
Like is see people say Dedenne or Hoenn duo being to similiar to pika but the rest is unique in theyr ways
Okay Dedenne is kinda diffrent imo
Also yeah I count risu as diffrent
flint tiger
https://tenor.com/view/dedenne-gif-27663062
Shrink the tail a bit (or a different type of tail), and then remove the cheek antenna
velvet root
flint tiger
Morpeko just needed an actual tail
velvet root
Shrink the tail a bit (or a different type of tail), and then remove the cheek a...
Exactly why im not 100% on it
bronze barn
velvet root
Happy new year from my side
wide merlin
bonne année a tous et bonne santé pour vous ( happy new year everyone and good health to you)
hollow plume
velvet root
Now build it
distant edge
3D print each hexagon individually and then glue them all together, one by one
or whatever shapes compose that model
velvet root
no see what you do is 3D print voltorb or electrode...out of squares
Okay but I do the Cobblemon version
prime dust
acceptable losses
tender plank
3D print each hexagon individually and then glue them all together, one by one
3d print each whaaaaa?
thorny hinge
Okay but I do the Cobblemon version
A Cobblemon server I like just shut down
Like 2 weeks ago
velvet root
O7
velvet root
Yeah that sucks
thorny hinge
They had cool custom models made and such
I got a Delphox that looked like Foxy for Halloween
dusty arrow
west sonnet
Its been fun chatters
wispy pawn
no ground is way better to have stab tarrows
true
full bison
Maybe this year I'll commit to drawing more than like 6 things lol
ripe wigeon
did frog ever mention that Luvdisc/Luvdisc wouldn't show up in Pokédex list before?
I feel like I saw a conversation about this somewhere, but I can't remember where.
dusty arrow
that diancie/luvdisc is beautiful
ripe wigeon
that diancie/luvdisc is beautiful
yeah, I do miss Ribbon
covert bough
where do i go after i get to route 35 in the johoto reigon, sudowoodo is blocking my path
ripe wigeon
where do i go after i get to route 35 in the johoto reigon, sudowoodo is blockin...
wrong channel, but if you've already defeated the E4, you can try making your way through ||Ilex Forest||
if you get stuck after then, try ||dark cave||
covert bough
wrong channel, but if you've already defeated the E4, you can try making your wa...
which channel should i go to, playthrough talk?
ripe wigeon
which channel should i go to, playthrough talk?
covert bough
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1056705898669682718 or https://d...
alr thank u and ill try that
distant hollow
yeah, I do miss Ribbon
what happened to them?
spiral musk
what happened to them?
she left the serv to focus on personal projects
distant hollow
ahh, fair enough
hope she's doing well, her sprites were always among my favorites
opaque ether
May 2025 be the year Poochyena and Mightyena make it into this game!
tender plank
2025 is gonna be my year trust me
restive pike
The dream. V create in game gimme my baby boy to use it 😭
velvet root
The dream. V create in game gimme my baby boy to use it 😭
V create is in the game
restive pike
Thats what i said. So gimme victini too
prime sonnet
Top pick for me out of any mons would have to go to my all time fav Silvally. I think people could make sick designs with the mask and the existing chimera-ness
prime sonnet
And my impossible wishes for gen 8-9. that will never be added,
for 9: maushold would make some adorable fusions,
the stuff people would do with tinkaton’s hammer would be incredible,
houndstone could make some very unsettling mixes.
For 8: applin :]
falinks of course
Any of the galar fossils by nature of them already being fusions,
weak trellis
I think someone did make a tandimaus but it's something like marill/duduo so the stats aren't great
full bison
Just imagine all the black comedy that Maushold would bring. Especially with mons like Drifloon and Cubone abounding
tight crest
Was Fomantis recently added?
tender plank
yeah
tight crest
I figured since it wasnt showing up on the Fusion Calc
full bison
It should be in infinite Dex
brittle crow
?tag calcs
opal trailBOT
https://infinitefusiondex.com/: Good for looking at stats, locations, movesets, and type matchups, as well as looking at the inverse fusions side-by-side.
https://www.fusiondex.org/: Good for looking at sprites and fusion names. Also includes stats, but no comparisons. Not updated for 6.4 yet
brittle crow
first site
weary loom
daring burrow
so, based on IFdex formantis is on route 2 before forest
which one is it?
oh nvmr
got it
fallow sky
I hope we get the alola legendary pokemon specifically lunala and solgaleo the tapu pokemon can wait
prime dust
no guarantee on what we will get next...assuming we get anything else anytime soon for new mons
distant hollow
a light trio triple fusion would be so cool
queen grove
Know what V-create would be great on? ....Malamar. 🙂
distant hollow
Solunacrozma...
distant hollow
Know what V-create would be great on? ....Malamar. 🙂
OH GOSH
queen grove
Solunacrozma...
Ooooh I like that.
distant hollow
that's probably not how the name would be sliced, but i think it has a nice ring to it
full bison
You think it would be possible for that triple fusion to have an Ultra form?
That could be one of the most gorgeous sprites in the game if designed right
distant hollow
You think it would be possible for that triple fusion to have an Ultra form?
probably not? but that would be pretty cool if it did
given how fusions split names...
Solgalunzma
grave jolt
Ultra Solunala
distant hollow
(which also provides distinction in split from Solrock and Lunatone)
full bison
Necronaaleo is the name I thought of
queen grove
I really like Solunacrozma, but is it too long?
distant hollow
Necronaaleo is the name I thought of
actually that could work... with one a rather than two maybe?
distant hollow
I really like Solunacrozma, but is it too long?
no...?
i don't think so
it's only one letter longer than kyodonquaza
queen grove
Good good. 🙂
grave jolt
I really want Walrein
full bison
Walrein and Beartic would be the two additions that would make me consider doing a Hail team.
distant hollow
minty vulpix...
full bison
Even if I'm worried about how cursed people would make Cubchoo sprites
distant hollow
Even if I'm worried about how cursed people would make Cubchoo sprites
i feel like a lot of them would have potential to be really cute
full bison
i feel like a lot of them would have potential to be really cute
A lot would be cute, sure, but a lot of them would just end up doing with Cubchoos snot what happened with Miltank's milk
rain locust
I really want Walrein
what the scallop is that
distant hollow
A lot would be cute, sure, but a lot of them would just end up doing with Cubcho...
i don't think so
miltank is cursed, cubchoo is cute
i think there's less to worry about with cubchoo
but who knows
full bison
Miltank's not cursed on its own tho
It's just a cartoon cow
And yet it's sprites gallery ended up being as cursed as it is because milk
grave jolt
what the scallop is that
rain locust
the thick fat hail
grave jolt
Meant to do ice body 😔
rain locust
dont know why id use walrein for ice body when kyurem/regice exist tbh
grave jolt
Sandstorm-thick fat is the other side of that
full bison
Beartic would also make Weavile a better Pokemon if it was added cause then it could inherit Icicle Crash
queen grove
I really want Walrein
Which site is that?
full bison
dont know why id use walrein for ice body when kyurem/regice exist tbh
Having a way to avoid the weaknesses of Ice is a decent upside, I'd say
rain locust
kyurem doesnt have to be ice
grave jolt
dont know why id use walrein for ice body when kyurem/regice exist tbh
Kyurem is currently OU and doesn't get ice body on showdown while Walrein is RU
On the Singleplayer side, both Kyurem and Regice are post game while (I'd hope) Spheal is available in the seafoam islands
queen grove
Yeah, ice type's weakness is basically just "yes."
rain locust
full bison
kyurem doesnt have to be ice
Defensive Water is better than defensive Dragon in some situations. Namely in a meta where fairies are plentiful
rain locust
youre not taking on the fairies in the meta anytime anyway
full bison
There's definitely a place for Ice Body Walrein to distinguish itself, I'd say
rain locust
its not taking sf moonblast or mg lor
queen grove
Ah Pokeathlon. 🙂 Thank you.
full bison
I still say the most interesting Pokemon to add to the game from a gameplay perspective would probably be Mienshao. A Glass Cannon with Regenerator would be fun to work with
Tsareena with Queenly Magesty could probably be a solid anti-meta fusion material too, especially if fused with strong enough Fire or Steel types
rain locust
i like the idea of mienshao
tsareena seems weak except in doubles
mienshao would prob be a uu staple as like the only nonlc regen user other than reuniclus
grave jolt
I really just want Walrein as a pokemon. I could use a legendary, but that's not as fun to me.
Ice Body, Hail-Waterfall-Anchorshot-Blizzard, leftovers.
I enjoy Walrein and I like Aggron.
rain locust
sounds walled by most steels and waters esp considering how easy it is to get recovery and lefties to offset hail
grave jolt
sounds walled by most steels and waters esp considering how easy it is to get re...
yk I entirely forgot water types resist steel moves because of how rarely I use them
coarse karma
yk I entirely forgot water types resist steel moves because of how rarely I use ...
I somehow always forget this too. But it also makes sense, corrosion and what not.
full bison
Sometimes I feel like Water should be Super Effective against Steel cause of that, but also Water is a crazy good type already so it doesn't really need a buff
viscid fossil
Water being one of the few types to hit steel for neutral is good enough
jovial slate
I mean, I personally have a few ways on how to adjust the type chart. Water corroding Steel makes sense, but that wasn’t one I really considered. I did opt for Electric being super-effective against Steel though.
civic kiln
I mean, I personally have a few ways on how to adjust the type chart. Water corr...
Why
jovial slate
For Electric being super-effective against steel, I thought that from Game Freak’s logic of Water being weak to Electric since water conducts electricity (even though it’s actually the minerals inside the water that conducts said electricity), then Steel should also be weak to Electric by that same logic.
But also, I was thinking about trying to balance some of the types a little more. Cause, I feel like nowadays there’s not much going for Electric types; can’t touch ground types, Grass-types have gotten move prominent in competitive with mons such as Rillaboom and Ogerpon, Dragon types are still very strong and in some cases absurdly powerful (eg Baxcalibur, Dragapult, Archaludon), and there’s the fact that only two types are weak to Electric, Water and Flying. Yes, water was always one of the best types so electric being to check them was a plus (or at least without mentioning water/ground mons), but flying doesn’t feel like as much now cause of Stealth Rock and other counter play. Meanwhile, Steel types are dominant everywhere, with there being some incredibly powerful type combos that can be very hard to properly adjust to such as Steel/Fairy and Steel/Ghost. Adding a weakness to those type combinations would help balance things out a bit.
rustic cypress
For Electric being super-effective against steel, I thought that from Game Freak...
from my opinion, typings don’t only represent elements by animals as well. for example, water types can represent both water or aquatic animals while flying represents both the wind and birds
so electric being super effectiveagainst water probably stems from lightning zapping fish in lakes and stuff
just my opinion though
another thing that supports my theories is Pokémon such as tornadus versus a bird Pokémon like pidgy
One of them is the embodiment of tornadoes and wind while the other one’s a bird
but they’re both flying types
Grass can represent both plants and life
jovial slate
I get what you mean, but by that system of logic, then you would end up with some weird cases. Of course, bugs are super-effective against grass, cause bugs eat plants, but then you have scenarios where certain types of fungi can actually kill bugs, despite fungi being affiliated with the grass type.
rustic cypress
I get what you mean, but by that system of logic, then you would end up with som...
True but most fungi still get eaten by bugs
and bugs can also represent pestilence or disease
actually, disease would probably just be poison typing
jovial slate
Yeah it would.
rustic cypress
I get what you mean, but by that system of logic, then you would end up with som...
of course, there’s also cases of fires not being able to get put out by water and floods also destroying forests
but majority of the time water puts out fire and plants drink water
brittle crow
because those examples arent 1:1
to put out a fire, there usually has to b more water than the source of the fire
and plants absorb water
!!
jovial slate
True, but there is the possibility of overwatering the plant.
rustic cypress
to put out a fire, there usually has to b more water than the source of the fire
things like oil fires you want to avoid putting water on
so it isn’t really a one-to-one thing
jovial slate
I feel like nuances or weird stuff like this is how things such as certain moves or abilities came to be. Now I think I better understanding how some pokemon and fakemon are created.
Cause with cases like these, you can maybe have a Pokémon based around an oil fire with an ability to be immune to water.
rustic cypress
or Pokémon that has water absorb
heat ran having flash fire
gastro has storm drain
i’m actually not fully sure why it has storm drain over water absorb though
jovial slate
Eelektross having levitate, Goodra having Sap Sipper, etc.
jovial slate
Or how would mold breaker affect other abilities such as Contrary and Simple? Like how does that even work realistically?
rustic cypress
Or how would mold breaker affect other abilities such as Contrary and Simple? Li...
or just certain abilities in general that literally stem from the Pokémon itself
such as flame body
or iron fist
jovial slate
Well, I can see how it would work for some abilities. For Shield Dust, the Dust could just be nullified or destroyed. Or for the Water Bubble ability, the bubble would just be popped.
rustic cypress
Well, I can see how it would work for some abilities. For Shield Dust, the Dust ...
but then there’s adaptability being cancelled and swift swim
timid pivot
Well, now that I am making Minior/Sneasel, I might do this
hexed agate
i’m actually not fully sure why it has storm drain over water absorb though
Probably a fancy way to say it draws in moisture?
clear lichen
Or how would mold breaker affect other abilities such as Contrary and Simple? Li...
My ass almost forgot that opponent stat dropping moves exist because you almost never see them in Smogon singles
I mean ig technically like
Moonblast
But nobody ever looks at Moonblast and thinks of it as a stat dropping move because everyone uses it for damage
lime nimbus
tacit saddle
should be
compact orbit
I’m not sure. When I went in there, I saw a pikachu that I think was supposed to be jangmo-o
Its happened in other places too
Like rock smashing in Mount Moon for what I assume was minior
shell orchid
yeah it isn't fixed yet
compact orbit
Or possibly carbink, but I did actually find a regular carbink by just walking
Damn
Will it be addressed in a bug fix patch soon?
shell orchid
Will it be addressed in a bug fix patch soon?
Hopefully, I am asking here. They made the updates of other remix trainer bugs, asking them to see if this includes the encounter fixes too: #1324190596667150367 message
They said they fixed some stuff on their end already, but would depend when Frog includes them
glass patio
Well, now that I am making Minior/Sneasel, I might do this <:heehee:945800365457...
ping 🤯
dull comet
Someone should make a sprite of luvdisc! I love the little guy and his sprite is blank Ingame lol
tacit saddle
Someone should make a sprite of luvdisc! I love the little guy and his sprite is...
mmmmhm?
thats 18 sprites btw haha
viscid fossil
A blank sprite means the game failed to load it in a way that didn't spawn the placeholder
Not that it doesn't exist
tacit saddle
: )
dull comet
😮 OMG I LOVE IT SO MUCH
How do I look at all the sprites like you did with the luvdisc?
tacit saddle
?tag calcs
opal trailBOT
https://infinitefusiondex.com/: Good for looking at stats, locations, movesets, and type matchups, as well as looking at the inverse fusions side-by-side.
https://www.fusiondex.org/: Good for looking at sprites and fusion names. Also includes stats, but no comparisons. Not updated for 6.4 yet
tacit saddle
top link
dull comet
Thx!
timid pivot
ping 🤯
I pingee u for that one, and ill likely use your minior palette for the next one 
civic imp
is there a fusion calculator for all the recent updates? the ones I can find don't include pokemon like greninja or quilladin
full bison
?tag calcs
opal trailBOT
https://infinitefusiondex.com/: Good for looking at stats, locations, movesets, and type matchups, as well as looking at the inverse fusions side-by-side.
https://www.fusiondex.org/: Good for looking at sprites and fusion names. Also includes stats, but no comparisons. Not updated for 6.4 yet
full bison
^first one
tepid fable
this pokemon the lovedisk thing above how did you fix the only 1 model?
dull comet
I didnt- idk how lol
It shows two models on the sprite pics but it won't let me select any thing, and in game the sprite is missing
But im just dealing with it lowkey
bronze barn
rugged temple
Someone should make a sprite of luvdisc! I love the little guy and his sprite is...
Luvdisc has more base sprites than dodrio lmao
quaint matrix
Luvdisc has more base sprites than dodrio lmao
Luvdisc is an easy sprite to make + post-irony factoring in to them
vs simple solid generic Flying guy from Gen 1
clever zealot
Any plans to add Espurr? I love the little walking psychic nuke
full bison
Maybe someday
full bison
There was kind of a gong show that happened here that kinda left the developer feeling kind of upset, and he's currently on indefinite hiatus. So we're not getting new additions for a while.
Espurr would be a fun addition tho
full bison
We all do
deep grotto
ahhh, I was able to piece together what happened based on the posts in announcement.
full bison
People around here prefer to just leave that an open secret, considering the absolutely horrible discourse that surrounds that topic. So let's leave it at that.
full bison
That's probably for the best. The past is the past.
tacit saddle
how do you check this?
?tag calcs
opal trailBOT
https://infinitefusiondex.com/: Good for looking at stats, locations, movesets, and type matchups, as well as looking at the inverse fusions side-by-side.
https://www.fusiondex.org/: Good for looking at sprites and fusion names. Also includes stats, but no comparisons. Not updated for 6.4 yet
tacit saddle
top link
tacit saddle
you cooked
dusty arrow
@couragestar
i know where he is 
tender plank
i also know where he is
trail hull
I also also know where he is
kindred scarab
tacit saddle
LMAO
hollow plume
inland jewel
We know we’re not going to get new mons for this year
Or even if we did it wouldn’t be until September
spice sage
Hey everyone, I'm going to be closing this channel for now. Until next time! 👋
velvet root
Welp until next time
vapid violet
the time is next
sharp sphinx
aaaay
ember bear
welcome back new pokemon discussion
gray stream
retextured 
vapid violet
we're so back
fallow swift
sinnoh discussion when
placid pelican
tacit saddle
i wonder who i can pokefan
spice sage
Btw I'll probably post some dev updates here from time to time
torn crane
fusion hoenn will still use same discord?
bold atlas
it's like, ultimately a second campaign? seeing that the extra Pokémon are coming to both
spice sage
fusion hoenn will still use same discord?
of course! pif-hoenn is still infinite fusion
bold atlas
...theoretically would it be simultaneously updated for non-map/story changes?
proud lion
Will the new mons be viable in randomized mode on the OG game?
clear lichen
Will Fusions Hoenn be built completely from the ground up or will it be built off of current IF?
If the former, then Gen 8+9 is possible chat
If the latter, then at least we probably keep all the current Pokemon
Win/Win, really
storm star
We will keep all pokemon. The games have trading
clear lichen
Mfw I didn't see the FAQ and I'm a goober
storm star
Ziggy is one of my favourite pokemon so I got really excited when zitty in the trailer
storm star
10 more years till a better BDSP remake
clear lichen
just wait like 80 years for pif galar and pif paldea
Fr
storm star
Ooh. Yeah better go check the list for anything particually cursed
Yeaah. New head unlocked
ember bear
(erm actually reused channel)
clear lichen
You can rest bro Carbink got in last time
hardy tartan
oh god wait plusle and minun are in
bitter chasm
Wonder if we'll get to join team Aqua or Magma?
shadow magnet
maybe manaphy will finally get some time to shine 
ember bear
isn't manaphy gen 4?
clear lichen
Mr Craw is in so that's great
hardy tartan
wouldn't it be Mr Daunt?
shadow magnet
yeah but I can still hope
clear lichen
I think the Gen 3 Pokemon that weren't already in that I'm pleased by the most are Masquerain, Crawdaunt and Relicanth
Masquerain is moth(?)
(Idk it's hard to tell)
(I'm just trusting Bulbapedia and the fact that it learns Quiver Dance)
(And the JP name)
ember bear
oh yeah masquerain added!
hardy tartan
Masquerain is moth(?)
Masquerain seems to draw inspiration from a variety of semi-aquatic insects. Its ability to skate on water is akin to a water strider, and its helicopter-like flight pattern a dragonfly. Its leg-turned-wings bring to mind Bittacomorpha-genus crane flies, which rely almost solely on their swollen legs to ride air currents. Given its Japanese name, it may also draw inspiration from semi-aquatic China-mark moths, possibly with its other moth-like features (namely its flared antennae and defensive eyespots) added for emphasis.
Name origin
thorny nebula
I will advocate for Cosmog for the next game!
ember bear
and i didn't even have to make propaganda for it, amazing
hardy tartan
k so we do have the numbers of the new additions or not?
clear lichen
Yeah so basically it's moth
Anyways
Moth=good
So Masquerain is automatically a good addition
coral axle
Just curious when did new pokemon discussion get removed? Haven’t been here in a hot minute
ember bear
this is new pokemon discussion, just renamed
it was hidden after they updated the game i think
plain belfry
I’m confused, what’s the thing with how the game works that some of the latest gens are not in there
thorny nebula
Think it'll have an expanded map kinda like IF's Kanto?
clear lichen
I’m confused, what’s the thing with how the game works that some of the latest g...
Imagine Infinite Fusion
But in Hoenn
As for the latest generations, that's because the game is built on an older version of the engine that doesn't have Gen 8+9
And when trying to go to the latest version, there were a lot of issues
That's what I've been told at least
thorny nebula
Happy Anniversary, Frog!
hidden relic
||It was Meltan ||
thorny nebula
Crazy pitch, how about seeing some alolan islands? Jkjk
spice sage
Happy Anniversary, Frog!
Thank you! It's crazy that it's been that long
gray vine
Think it'll have an expanded map kinda like IF's Kanto?
maybe some extra towns but overall it wasnt that expanded
it was firered
turbid topaz
Thank you! It's crazy that it's been that long
Hey Frog, I have an Important Question I would like to ask of you.
clear lichen
Is Mothim in IF yet?
If so, we now have every moth
If not, we are 1 moth away from every moth
unkempt kernel
Is Mothim in IF yet?
No
clear lichen
(Excluding Frosmoth, Iron Moth and Slither Wing for obvious reasons)
spice sage
Hey Frog, I have an Important Question I would like to ask of you.
sure!
velvet root
Im so excited to see the new game and all those Mons
Even If I wont meet my Goat yet
gray stream
deploying carbink propaganda
gray vine
If not, we are 1 moth away from every moth
we have Volcarona and Venomoth...thats only 2
turbid topaz
sure!
Since "R" and the rest of us did so well on the Remix Mode and Harder Difficulty Creation, where we gave Competitive Sets and Challenges to everything... May we be allowed to design and work on the Trainers and stuff in the Battle Frontiers when you get to them?
clear lichen
we have Volcarona and Venomoth...thats only 2
Dustox and Masquerain join in Gen 3
That's 4
gray vine
even not counting frosmoth thats still missing Dustox and Mothim
clear lichen
Out of 5
clear lichen
even not counting frosmoth thats still missing Dustox and Mothim
You won't believe what just got announced
gray vine
ah right i forgot that it said that the hoenn mon also go to IF
unkempt kernel
I’m excited for serviper fusions
clear lichen
Seviper/Zangoose is going to be created quite quickly I imagine
turbid topaz
Since "R" and the rest of us did so well on the Remix Mode and Harder Difficulty...
It's fine if the answer is no, I was just curious since designing Competitive Challenges and similar stuff has been our forte.
clear lichen
(And vice versa)
hardy tartan
i have no idea what's true and what isn't
i don't know if the numbers given for the new 'mons are real or not
velvet root
I remember a SICK Seviper/Scolipede
spice sage
Since "R" and the rest of us did so well on the Remix Mode and Harder Difficulty...
That's a great idea! It'll be a while until we get to postgame stuff though 😅
clear lichen
i have no idea what's true and what isn't
i don't know if the numbers given for ...
Could you imagine facing Maxie and instead of a Camerupt he just has like Ponyta or something
Exactly
velvet root
Ngl maybe contact the artist If I can use his designe
clear lichen
It's a safe assumption that all the Gen 3 Pokemon are getting added
Since otherwise stuff will get awkward really quick
unkempt kernel
Well the rest of gen 3
gray vine
It's a safe assumption that all the Gen 3 Pokemon are getting added
not really an assumption its litterly said in the announcement
turbid topaz
That's a great idea! It'll be a while until we get to postgame stuff though 😅
Really?! I was expecting just a simple no, but thank you for the greenlight so we can start working on stuff in-advance. As soon as we know the Full Dex and Pokemon Range, we can start getting to work.
thorny nebula
Best of luck with this next game! I hope to help sprite for it as well!
clear lichen
not really an assumption its litterly said in the announcement
Yeah but even if you don't trust the announcement for whatever reason like the person I replied to it's still a safe assumption
BTW Ponyta wasn't a random pick
It only has 20 less BST than Camerupt
thorny stream
i can't wait to fuse seviper and zangoose together to make the first fusion that just absolutely hates itself and its very existence
hardy tartan
not really an assumption its litterly said in the announcement
oh there's a supplemental announcement
thorny stream
gonna be glorious
lament peak
Wtf is a hoenn
thorny stream
spriters, please make sure the seviper/zangoose fusion is just filled with rage at existing
clear lichen
Wait mb my memory is shit
thorny stream
it'll be hilarious
clear lichen
50 less BST
Still crazy that Ponyta has over 400 BST
It's literally a 1st stage Pokemon and has been since its inception
rain locust
holy shiit
unkempt kernel
Now with all of Gen 3 announced, I can await the day of the squirrel (mad cope)
thorny stream
also i finally win and get spheal fusions in a way that's even better than i dreamed
unkempt kernel
Rotund 
thorny stream
every mon will now be ballin'
turbid topaz
Really?! I was expecting just a simple no, but thank you for the greenlight so w...
That way, even if it'd take a while for you to get to the Battle Frontiers, all of the Prep and Teambuilding would be set.
gray stream
holy shiit
I used to hate carbink, but now it's my second most sprited pokemon I think I am the lead spriter of it right now, at least as far as heads go
rain locust
rain locust
its just different that way
coral axle
Carbink and Luvdisc sprites my beloved
velvet root
I cant wait to use my boy Chimecho
oblique lotus
so just to confirm the hoenn game is a sequal of pif that has everything pif has but takes place in hoenn with the hoenn story?
hardy tartan
so just to confirm the hoenn game is a sequal of pif that has everything pif has...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BkCbkhgJ3_HEFp7Znx3N3WeOQCzqcRnRn-qZ0lhsHW0/edit?tab=t.0
i think this is all we know so far
hardy tartan
code it in and we'll see
clear lichen
code it in and we'll see
Pretty sure someone already did that
gilded palm
What language does pokemon essentials use?
unkempt kernel
Damn still no gen 8 pokemon
Sad but understandable as I assume it’s to keep compatibility between the two games. Would have loved Yamper tho
oblique lotus
well sadly the faq doesnt answer my question of if its just pif but in hoenn. it just says pif but with gen 3 mons so i have to assume that means you can only use gen 3 mons in hoenn and any mons that arent in gen 3 are pif only and not in pif hoenn
hardy tartan
Though not Falinks, I think it was Dragapult?
how much was coded, though?
clear lichen
how much was coded, though?
Probably not all
But I'm not sure
I am looking forward to 20 years in the future when we get our first Gen 8 Pokemon
Surely Frosmoth
Surely
(It's going to be some unpopular Pokemon as a troll)
turbid topaz
Btw, what do you guys think of the name "Latoas"?
clear lichen
What is the least popular Gen 8 Pokemon, anyways?
clear lichen
Btw, what do you guys think of the name "Latoas"?
Just say Lati@s fr
gilded palm
well sadly the faq doesnt answer my question of if its just pif but in hoenn. it...
You can transfer between games allegedly so I would assume that means all PIF mons are in hoenn
velvet root
Btw how will the Spritepacks work?
Will it include the new mons in the next one or will all of them be stored until the update and new Game is out?
unkempt kernel
What is the least popular Gen 8 Pokemon, anyways?
Probably like, Stonejourner or Eiscue
turbid topaz
Just say Lati@s fr
What? It's a name I came up with as soon as I saw the Eon Duo Fusion pass by in the Video Preview
I thought it was creative
clear lichen
Oh damn fr?
ornate tide
When are we gonna get the 3rd version of Latios or Latias Latixs
rain locust
What is the least popular Gen 8 Pokemon, anyways?
stunfisk galar
clear lichen
I'd have assumed it'd just be like
Latios or Latias
OK cool we getting non autogenerated names I guess
oblique lotus
You can transfer between games allegedly so I would assume that means all PIF mo...
yeah but in another faq question it says some hoenn pokemon can only be obtained by transfer so still unclear
gilded palm
stunfisk galar
Yeah tbh probably this one
hidden relic
clear lichen
stunfisk galar
OK but r/Stunfisk lives rent free in my head so it can't be that
rain locust
Erm...
gilded palm
OK but r/Stunfisk lives rent free in my head so it can't be that
Ah but when you imagine r/stunfisk you probably think of normal stunfisk and not galarian stunfisk
turbid topaz
But yeah, thank you for the Potential Greenlight of us Expert Mode People designing the BATTLE FRONTIERS, Frog~
clear lichen
Ah but when you imagine r/stunfisk you probably think of normal stunfisk and not...
The subreddit's profile has been galarian stunfisk for a long ass time by now
gilded palm
The subreddit's profile has been galarian stunfisk for a long ass time by now
Nvm thne
wide merlin
walrein come !!! the mayor !
clear lichen
Looking at all the Gen 8 Pokemon, galarian forms and hisuian forms included, I have come to the conclusion that perhaps Eiscue is the most unpopular Gen 8 mon
At the same time though
dire crane
Please, please, PLEASE make this game actually challenging
clear lichen
Giving a Pokemon the ability to tank any 1 physical hit is cool
So pick Stonjourner instead
Since it doesn't have that
Fr
dire crane
It's so close to being a perfect game
Please just give us a hardcore mode on RR/Inclement Emerald level
rain locust
stonjourner is such a fraud mon
clear lichen
20 Spdef :/
proud lion
I realized, with the new game, ||How will we deal with Kyo-udo-za?||
rain locust
walrein might find niche use on hail stall 🤯
dire crane
i heckin love Stonjourner lol i got to top 1000 in SV ladder with it
no Stonjourner slander allowed
clear lichen
I realized, with the new game, ||How will we deal with Kyo-udo-za?||
Simply ||pray we have to fight triple regi instead||
rain locust
how would you know that it only goes up to top 500 on leaderboard
turbid topaz
I realized, with the new game, ||How will we deal with Kyo-udo-za?||
Nah, I have a better question in mind. How do we deal with ||Deoxys Fusions using ACTUAL Deoxys Forms?||
clear lichen
I'm a fan of difficult romhacks/fangames, but only if they give you easy access to changing EVs and IVs, or remove them outright
Since having to fight EV Trained Pokemon is only fair when you have them too
But EV Training is quite the time sink
turbid topaz
I'm a fan of difficult romhacks/fangames, but only if they give you easy access ...
I mean hey, instead of that, you get the Ultimate Battle Frontiers designed by the Expert/Remix Mode Team.
inland jewel
I'm a fan of difficult romhacks/fangames, but only if they give you easy access ...
you might like Pokemon Sweltering Sun or Pokemon Scrambled Scarlet then
built around teamlocke, and also rebalancing mons so that all are viable, (Like if you want to take a kakuna to HoF you can its been done before)
but im excited to finally use my goats Skitty, and Masquerain
west sonnet
Nah, I have a better question in mind. How do we deal with ||Deoxys Fusions usin...
We were not provided with dex numbers for Deoxys forms atm
Whereas we were with Castform
So I wouldn't worry about it atm
vocal pivot
Wait a minute...
We're getting Walrein and Tropius?
gilded palm
SPHEAL
thorny nebula
Putting this on the aux https://youtu.be/IwInqrN_auU?si=-4MKwJvYMV5kNO_S
vocal pivot
The rest of my childhood is coming to IF!
silk cobalt
man, no one's gonna use volbeat or illumise huh
gray stream
I already did once in the past #1364342709732774078
vocal pivot
man, no one's gonna use volbeat or illumise huh
Volbeat could be fused with something else for a good support mon. Its ha is prankster
turbid topaz
Volbeat could be fused with something else for a good support mon. Its ha is pra...
Prankster Stealth Rocks on a Bug/Rock Type, or Prankster Tail Glow on a Special Sweeper?
That's a nightmare of an idea.
vocal pivot
Yes
weak trellis
probably also an okay head on a physical attacker (65/47/85) or yea as a body on a tail glow sweeper (65/73/85)
...dang when did volbeat get like +30 defense was that gen 6 or 7
vocal pivot
It got 20 def in s/m
Decent speed and bulk are good on something you don't intend to use to smack people
vocal pivot
Prankster Stealth Rocks on a Bug/Rock Type, or Prankster Tail Glow on a Special ...
I'm thinking of fusing it with something with access to stealth rock and will-o-wisp. It gets U-Turn to pivot
rain locust
Volbeat could be fused with something else for a good support mon. Its ha is pra...
dont see it being any better than like sableye
rain locust
Prankster Stealth Rocks on a Bug/Rock Type, or Prankster Tail Glow on a Special ...
47 spa ⁉️
just use ampharos at that point
vocal pivot
U-Turn and decent speed to pivot with.
turbid topaz
Mixed Attacking Volbeat Fusions are Valid
rain locust
whimsicott has uturn and even higher speed
rain locust
Mixed Attacking Volbeat Fusions are Valid
not if ur running tg
turbid topaz
not if ur running tg
You do realize it gets Baton Pass, right?
crystal niche
Is it a game or a region expansion
rain locust
way better bp users out there
vocal pivot
I forgot. Prankster baton passer
Fuse with Bastiodon for bug/steel, tail glow twice, pass it to your special sweeper
crystal niche
Could we maybe put Pokemon from much later gens in this new game? I just think it could add some variety.
vocal pivot
I'm not sure about that. Though I really want Kingambit
summer apex
crystal niche
What about regional forms?
inland jewel
What about regional forms?
Dev hates regional forms so not likely
somber crow
NO WAY
inland jewel
Could we maybe put Pokemon from much later gens in this new game? I just think i...
Code base also doesn't have ANY mons from 8-9
gray vine
i mean they are also very uninteresting for fusions
somber crow
WE ARE GETING A SEQUEL?!?!?!
crystal niche
Oh, okay
gray vine
its usually the same mon just a different type, why would that be interesting for fusions
somber crow
WITH MY BOI SURSKIT?!?!?!?!?
inland jewel
at most we can get mons up to gen 7
crystal niche
its usually the same mon just a different type, why would that be interesting fo...
I don't know, it just would
vocal pivot
Masquerain can be bug/water
gray vine
nah
snow scroll
being able to transfer pokemon makes it so much better tbh
although I wonder how it's going to work
inland jewel
although I wonder how it's going to work
they have an export feature for Pokemon Showdown
somber crow
I'd assume that the fusions that will be in the new game that already have sprites will already have these sprites from the start
inland jewel
so im guessing they're gonna use that but to import into the game
inland jewel
So if you talk to a certain NPC in the game rn, you can get a text that you can copy paste to get the exact mon in Pokemon Showdown found here #showdown-general
vocal pivot
I don't know, it just would
I'm leaning towards "It's not gonna be too different from the original in IF and they can be referenced anyway"
crystal niche
Varity is the spice of life, and right now I'm worried there won't be enough spice.
gray vine
although I wonder how it's going to work
i hope its more that you can just use your old save, like you can either start as a new guy or if you put in a PIF save its basically like your character just went to hoenn
gray vine
if its only mons its defintily gonna go the "every mon is traded" route
vocal pivot
i hope its more that you can just use your old save, like you can either start a...
Same, I want access to the homies from the get go
inland jewel
In terms of available pokemon
adding the rest of the hoenn dex, and then you can import/export mons between the games
somber crow
Like, is it going to have all available pokemon from PIF? Or it's going to start with only the Hoenn Dex?
inland jewel
so like you can catch Skitty in PIF Hoenn, and then transfer it to PIF Kanto/Johto
and vice versa
vocal pivot
Like, is it going to have all available pokemon from PIF? Or it's going to start...
The former
inland jewel
is what im picking up
gray vine
if you can put your mons into the sequel then it would be fine to assume the game will have all the same mons
inland jewel
yee game 2 is basically the 501 mons from PIF + all rest of the hoenn dex
somber crow
The former
Wait WHAT
vocal pivot
That's what I'm picking up
inland jewel
because the thing holding back the games from having a new region is the map limit
somber crow
yee game 2 is basically the 501 mons from PIF + all rest of the hoenn dex
OH WOW
gray vine
i eman you could just you know...read the #announcements
vocal pivot
Especially this paragraph
inland jewel
but yeah, PIF Hoenn resets the map limit, so we down the line get a train that takes us to Sinnoh.
gray vine
Especially this paragraph
gray vine
but yeah, PIF Hoenn resets the map limit, so we down the line get a train that t...
im only expecting sinnoh if we get a name change
Hoenn really just seems like..well Hoenn
proud lion
Did a new Jessie mon for Hoenn
gray vine
vocal pivot
Also got these two
inland jewel
Hoenn really just seems like..well Hoenn
thats because they're only doing the Hoenn maps for now
thats why i said down the line since it has a ton of available maps, they can definitely add the Sinnoh region
which would be a major update in like 2-3 years
gray vine
i mean yeah but im saying if you call it specially Infinite Fusions:Hoenn i am not expecting Sinnoh
vocal pivot
We're definitely fighting Groudon/Kyogre/Rayquaza
inland jewel
and yeah, its called Hoenn becaues they're only doing Hoenn for now
gilded palm
Pokemon IF Hoenn now with Kalos for some reason
gray vine
i think its called hoenn cause its in hoenn
if they plan for sinnoh in it, could have just called it Infinite Fusion 2
silk cobalt
do you guys think we'll actually get a battle frontier :p
inland jewel
again, he plan is only hoenn for now, hence its called Hoenn. I'm thinking that there is a huge possibility that they can add Sinnoh much later
especially with available maps and also no need to create a new game with sinnoh only
vocal pivot
Maybe in a distant update
inland jewel
yeah thats why i said in 2-3 years
gray vine
eh it be a weird naming thing tho
inland jewel
they can rename it later
vocal pivot
inland jewel
But anyway, 6 months before a working demo
spriters got 6 months to lock in
64 new mons
somber crow
64 x 501 x 2, let's see...
64128 new sprites, o wow
pale flame
gray vine
64 x 501 x 2, let's see...
64128 new sprites, o wow
well 68224
since 565x565= 319225 which is the full sprite amount and if we remove the 251001 sprites already in that leaves 68224 new ones
somber crow
OH YEAH
I forgot to include the fusions between the Hoenn mons ;-;
So that would be 64 x 501 x 2 + 64^2
Which is 64128 + 4096
Which is 68224 yeah
gray vine
so uneededly complicated lul
verbal halo
so uneededly complicated lul
But worth it
gray vine
i dunno i did it with simple maths
grave jolt
I just realized i gotta wait for pachi 😔
white meadow
Finally, I'm being left alone by trainers now
Yeah go bother prof birch for all I care 😂
charred vault
I am very excited for my beloved Skitty and Delcatty to be added. Yes I know they are bad but they are some of my favs. Last time I could get them in a game was...Gen 7 because I did not get BDSP.
cerulean topaz
i made this as a joke for my friends and decided to send it here also
anwyas
WURMPLE GAMING
gray stream
kitty
ripe wigeon
Where am I
grave jolt
Where am I<:allthethings:308453755672592384>
proud lion
I felt like I brought this concept up
gray stream
You accidentally put zigzagoon again instead of zangoose 
fathom sluice
Hoping this means a spinoff for each region already ingame. 2D Alola would be cool
inland jewel
Hoping this means a spinoff for each region already ingame. 2D Alola would be co...
i think they're just going to add maps to PIF Hoenn till its full like it is for PIF, so a huge potential for Hoenn/SInnoh
and then in 10 years, PIF Unova
proud lion
Or Kalos
merry condor
Wait I didn't notice there's new channel, what's up guys.
Will they add a feature that can roam around with latios/latias. I doubt it's possible lol.
charred vault
See clearly we need more water so map out Alola with Hoenn for 40% more water
cerulean topaz
and then in 10 years, PIF Unova
id do anything for pif unova
so many good fusion ideas
proud lion
so many good fusion ideas
monki
hexed agate
One can dream...
proud lion
novel bough
hoenn is getting added?
gray stream
hoenn is getting added?
No. ||I am evil.||
fathom sluice
One day someone will make a Pokemon game with the entire Pokeworld in it 🙏
The empty water south of Johto bothers me 😔
merry condor
Damn, so hoenn ice pokemon that's not added yet is walrein line?. So we only get one new ice type?.
inland jewel
hoenn is getting added?
not to base PIF
it will be a new game entirely
so when you start it'll be in littleroot
wild nebula
I just discovered this announcement
I'm so hype
Holy crap
hushed axle
I shall now compile a list of everytime it was said that PIF won’t have a sequel
gray vine
wack
wild nebula
The idea of transfers being possible is wild to me
gray vine
do hope its the whole save not just mons
like let me keep my character
if its just the mons, they will defintily be considered traded
hushed axle
#general message the first one I found was from @hazy fable 
gray vine
the first mention only 2 months ago?
hushed axle
Going backwards
gray vine
ah
hushed axle
wild nebula
if its just the mons, they will defintily be considered traded
I mean, the whole reason for the traded penalty in the core games is to keep you from stomping the game with level 100 mons
The same would apply to this, i figure
grave jolt
Gonna bully my way through the game with a double rayquazza again
merry condor
Can't wait for my boy Seedot to get added, I saw it fused with Surskit on the 10 years anniversary video.
inland jewel
Can't wait for my boy Seedot to get added, I saw it fused with Surskit on the 10...
well, we shall see in 6 months