general

[twin lagoon]

no because with 1.7.10 you don't have support for anything

stuff generally still supports 1.8+

[void void]

Armorstands etc. fair

Now we're on the topic of old version support

might as well add protocolsupport nah?

[twin lagoon]

i'd rather send legacy users to a legacy lobby than to send them to a 1.19 lobby with viabackwards/protocolsupport

[void void]

Casually supporting 1.4.7

[undone blade]

While we had chat control mentioned. I know you don't like the dev. It's meta to not like him now adays. What's wrong with the plugin?

[vernal coral]

there should be viagame plugin and other games can conenct your minecraft lobby but everything is translated to that game

[void void]

Never heard of chat control ngl

Who made chat control and why is he hated?

[grand pewter]

It's meta to not like him
that's such a bad take

[neon verge]

Btw i just release the logo is
Gay Flag and Transgender Flag

[coarse venture]

I am surprised people can use that plugin without being forced to buying a course subscription first.

[twin lagoon]

part of why the dev is disliked is the actual code quality

the meme document went over it but the links are mostly dead

[void void]

It can't be that bad, right?

[undone blade]

It's not

[twin lagoon]

it was bad

[waxen panther]

don’t have time to do the same conversation paper has every 3 weeks but yeah the code quality is terrible, the plugin is questionable and the author is scummy

[void void]

Right??

[coarse venture]

plus, ppl love to hate on others, if they dont use it, it's easy to dish. just natural.

[undone blade]

Chc Pro wasn't the best red is alot better

[void void]

The chat control with 660k~~ downloads?

[twin lagoon]

it was bad enough for people to write a multi-page document about it

[void void]

kangarko?

[vernal coral]

how would csgo one tap translate to minecraft just wondering

[undone blade]

Yeah it's good

People just feed on drama

[twin lagoon]

yes

[void void]

Is it still that bad or?

[twin lagoon]

what

[void void]

Oh, it has a github

[twin lagoon]

kangarko outsources dev work to others nowadays

[void void]

I'll check myself then

[void void]

Oh, that's lame

[waxen panther]

@twin lagoon how would apex tap strafing translate to minecraft?

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther how would apex super gliding translate to minecraft

[waxen panther]

yes

[undone blade]

I don't think there is a plugin that can do what chc does tbh. Venture chat being the closest

But idk

Could be wrong

[void void]

Well I do dislike the fact that they do the good ol' classic static instance stuff

Not quite OOP

but oh well, almost everyone does it

[little frost]

via @true canyon

[undone blade]

Gigachad

[warm anchor]

I become the optimization

[void void]

Heh?

@twin lagoon am I reading this right? He is using labels

[waxen panther]

oh my god it’s electronic cat 🤩

[void void]

The ancient labels, never have I seen them in usage before as I haven't had a need to ever

[golden gust]

Thing is that chat control just had a ton of mediocre features which nobody cares to implement in their own plugins because it's generally just ends up turning into a shoddy performance nightmare or very few care to use it bar the odd server which is crazy about investing into scunthorpe

[spare venture]

did y’all watch the starfield reveal

[true canyon]

watching the gameplay thing literally right now stop looking at me

[golden gust]

It's like the essentials of plugins, for chat

[waxen panther]

hey cat, jroys code isn’t THAT bad

[golden gust]

Everything essentials does, theres a standalone plugin which can do it several times better

[void void]

I've always wondered, what precisely are labels used for? Apart from allowing you to break specific loops of course

[golden gust]

mostly just that

[void void]

Then,,, why is it used here in if-statements?

[golden gust]

like, they don't do anything else

[twin lagoon]

broccolai is a label

[spare venture]

or if you like naming your methods silly names

[undone blade]

Making some custom 'funkopop' spin offs for my server, anybody want their skin made into one lol

[true canyon]

except the Essentials team actually tries to improve what they have.

[grand pewter]

low level flow control but you shouldn't generally use them especially in java

[void void]

example from chatcontrol:

        muteCheck: if (ChatControl.muted) {
            if (Common.hasPerm(pl, Permissions.Bypasses.MUTE))
                break muteCheck;

            if (Settings.Mute.DISABLED_CMDS_WHEN_MUTED.contains(args[0].replaceFirst("/", ""))) {
                Common.tell(pl, Localization.CANNOT_COMMAND_WHILE_MUTED);
                e.setCancelled(true);
                LagCatcher.end("Command event");
                return;
            }
        }```

What precisely does it do here

[grand pewter]

is that actual code or from a decompiler

[void void]

from github

[true canyon]

Jesus.

[waxen panther]

[spare venture]

chatcontrol has posted their source multiple times before

[void void]

does it like, not fully return but kinda goto as if it was false?

[golden gust]

jesus

[void void]

or wtf does that do?

[cunning raft]

https://github.com/JRoy/ChatControl-Red

[void void]

LOL

Like I knew it did the for breaking, which also in itself isn't good to do

[golden gust]

it'll leave the muted if

[waxen panther]

decompiler code looks better than that fr

[void void]

It just, leaves it and continues?

[golden gust]

Yes

[spare venture]

starfield looks really good

[void void]

Then my assumption was correct

[true canyon]

It has uses, this just isn't a good example.

[void void]

Cool to know, could be refactored to actually not use said label

[warm anchor]

Hello Sir JRoy there may be a mistake, I cannot seem to open this repo

[golden gust]

One of those, "just because you can, doesn't mean you should"

[spare venture]

shame i can’t play it on my ps5 😔

[undone blade]

It was edited

it works now

[void void]

What would be a good example?

So far I've always refrained from labels, and if I had to use them refactored the code to not having to use em

[undone blade]

I got red for free from kang lol

[golden gust]

I mean, theres very few cases in which it probs wouldn't be better to just refactor your control flow

[void void]

I prefer avoiding the entire label thing, as it seems rather bad

Idk how labels work in the JVM itself

[golden gust]

requiring stuff like labels often implies that you're going into a pyramid

forgot the tech-fangled term

[cunning raft]

@waxen panther this guy is on a first syllable basis with him

[void void]

So take my words with grains of salt

[twin lagoon]

how has this not been dmca'd

but the memeacademy doc has been

[void void]

As all my coding experience has just come from

[spare venture]

not publicly visible

[void void]

8 years of coding myself

[cunning raft]

i will counter

he can sue me

[void void]

and working at 2 jobs for a total of 4 years

So I don't have a lot of in-depth tech knowledge of for example the JVM or whatevs

[spare venture]

isn’t he from eastern europe

[cunning raft]

probably

[true canyon]

Fun jokes

/* I've got to */
break free;

Or if you're in a nest and trying to jump to a specific part of that nest it can be handy.

[twin lagoon]

i'd join in on that lawsuit

would be comical

[waxen panther]

wow king K himself 🥸🥸🥸🥸

[twin lagoon]

the papermc open collective can cover legal costs

[undone blade]

Wait did a paper dev just post a pirated plugin they host themself or am i tripping

[void void]

I can understand the nest part, but often I end up changing up the flow for me to not require said label

[twin lagoon]

technically not pirated

somewhat morally accepted in this case

[silver ruin]

is starlight running with the new papermc?

[twin lagoon]

yes

[cunning raft]

mirroring a repo

[silver ruin]

:)

and its just in the server natively right?

[light wren]

is the new paper out?

[cunning raft]

that most distributed by kang himself

[twin lagoon]

yes

[silver ruin]

like its not a plugin

[twin lagoon]

and yes @light wren

[silver ruin]

thank you sir

[light wren]

:D

[undone blade]

Why out of curiosity? lol

[spare venture]

yeah he had the source on gitlab for a while

[void void]

That's the "premium" version?

[undone blade]

I get confused by github stuffs

[silver ruin]

im just making sure im not stupid

[waxen panther]

wow two wholesome paper general people in a row

[cunning raft]

because kang removed it

[waxen panther]

so proud of everyone

[undone blade]

He went closed source?

and you was like nah

[spare venture]

it has always been closed source

[cunning raft]

he had it posted for like

[undone blade]

https://tenor.com/view/head-bang-pissed-stressed-upset-ugh-gif-16972393

[cunning raft]

2 weeks

[spare venture]

he did some really shitty business practice and then on his new version he had it public on gitlab for a minute

[true canyon]

But let me have my fun https://github.com/KittehOrg/KittehIRCClientLib/blob/f7317e61d7ebd48a4293c5b10c67d576a95943de/src/main/java/org/kitteh/irc/client/library/defaults/DefaultClient.java#L971-L984

[warm anchor]

wow 3 Josh in chat rn

[twin lagoon]

throwback to when he had the premium CMI jar as a library in a public bitbucket repo

[warm anchor]

this is unreal

[twin lagoon]

still have CMI because of that

[undone blade]

Well yeah joshes are the best tbh

[waxen panther]

not only cmi lol

[spare venture]

why would you want cmi 💀

[waxen panther]

he had tons of premium plugins in his repo

[undone blade]

Cmi = I WANT EVERYTHING, will i ever use it NO

[waxen panther]

that’s you and chatcontrol

[undone blade]

I use it all tbh

lmao

[cunning raft]

[waxen panther]

[twin lagoon]

:COPIUM:

[void void]

wouldn't just throwing the exception be more clean there?

[spare venture]

everyone goes through a stage of using shit like chat control and cmi

[void void]

or was it just for the sake of using a label

LOL

[foggy silo]

Hello paper developer / moderator Jroy

[undone blade]

What do you think i should use as my chat plugin? im curious

[spare venture]

depends on what you need

[undone blade]

And how many other chat plugins do you know besides venturechat and townychat?

(not talking about the spigot ones with 12 downloads)

[waxen panther]

please do not put respect on his name, always spell his username lowercase

[spare venture]

i use venturechat because it’s open source and seems like it’s the only OK chat plugin with channels that supports towny

and actively supported

i don’t know why you would ever use ChatControl because in another 6 months he will release ChatControl-Blue and charge $500 for it

not to mention how bad it is

[foggy silo]

My most sincerest apologies.

[undone blade]

Sigh

[spare venture]

speaking as someone who used it for a time

[undone blade]

What issues did you have?

curious

[spice ether]

Well you already use CMI so why not that as chat plugin aswell lol

[undone blade]

I dont use cmi

lmao

[waxen panther]

Waiting for ChatControl Magenta 😇

[spare venture]

channels not working properly, performance problems, the moderation system is overkill

[undone blade]

This is a classic via example, I respect that you didnt get on with it but like i said, no issues for me lol

[spare venture]

way too many features in a convoluted config

[undone blade]

like i said earlier, everyone has diff experiences

I switched from venture to chat control for features I needed lol

and cross server stuff is much cleaner on a network

[spare venture]

not to mention how he said he was rewriting the plugin for 9 months and convinced everyone to bear with him, then decided to abandon his premium plugin to release the same plugin again but for more money

[undone blade]

That was kinda shitty but I got it for free so i dont mind lmaoo

[spare venture]

slow dev cycle

[coarse venture]

kang giving something for free is new to me.

[spare venture]

and he spammed my email with ads for mine academy

[undone blade]

I was 6 months behind the 'free' upgrade and he gave me the benefit of the doubt 🙂

As i owned pro

[coarse venture]

party, rephrase that: he used your paypal email for advertising purposes, despite the paypal ToS .. more likely

[undone blade]

LOL

[spare venture]

correct, he violated european laws on that one

[undone blade]

you guys really hung up on this guy lol

thats deep

[spare venture]

then threatened to sue me for being mean to him

[void void]

Starting intellij rn

[twin lagoon]

oh yeah the fucker used my paypal email to send unwanted emails

[spice ether]

Gross

[foggy silo]

Hi Michael (respect)

[coarse venture]

no, i dont really care too much - ppl use what they wanna use. but, some devs have created more history for themselves than others, so they come up once in a while.

[waxen panther]

Michael stop being hung up on him 🤓

[spare venture]

you asked for why we don’t like him or his plugin, don’t complain that i listed a bunch of reasons

[undone blade]

Every time i post my pl list this happens btw, LOL

It hasnt failed once

[waxen panther]

Don’t care

[coarse venture]

Talk about hung, i should finish that tv show. never watched the last couple of episodes

[undone blade]

o.o

[void void]

What are you awake for at 3am 👁️

[coarse venture]

aurorae, i fall asleep in my comfy chair before dinner, woke up at 10pm, can't sleep now. 😄

[void void]

Valid

I got class in a few

5 hours

[coarse venture]

#food i even made pasta sauce and had dinner at like 1 am

[void void]

Looks nice!

Dutch here too 🖐️

[foggy silo]

Those Europeans and their messed up sleep schedules

[coarse venture]

hi dutch

[void void]

It's part of the genes, I'm telling you

[coarse venture]

other dutch here

[undone blade]

Me at 2am: wym

[foggy silo]

I refuse to believe they are real

[twin lagoon]

we're all dutch deep inside

[void void]

I know, your bio says so

Are you tall?

[undone blade]

Owens cracked it, Europeans are not real

[void void]

If no, probably not

[coarse venture]

194cm

[void void]

I meant to Michael

[twin lagoon]

dunno

[waxen panther]

2302cm

[twin lagoon]

i've got a dutch passport though

[undone blade]

Who tf would measure themself in cm

[foggy silo]

please translate to freedom units

[void void]

Hmm

[spare venture]

tall brocc

[twin lagoon]

might be enough

[void void]

Valid

[waxen panther]

reasonable humans

[undone blade]

Yeah no

im 6 foot tall

[waxen panther]

🥸 my country uses something different so you’re wrong 🥸

[undone blade]

Sorry i mean 182.88cm

[spare venture]

joshie you measure your height based on some random dudes foot length

[undone blade]

LMFAO

k that got me

[coarse venture]

americans are the length of half of the neck of a giraffe, parallel to 2 elbows.

[twin lagoon]

barty don't you literally do the same wtf

[lavish crest]

I don't measure my height in centimetres.

[spare venture]

yes but i’m not saying it’s superior

[twin lagoon]

that is acceptable

[waxen panther]

barty measures his height in hamburgers 🤓

[foggy silo]

American struggles (coping mechanism)

[void void]

I love how I brought up height, but apparently I'm the most tiny here

[spare venture]

michael approves of me

[lavish crest]

I measure it in metres.

[atomic onyx]

fuck spigot man paper rules

[undone blade]

Also I lied im 5 11

[foggy silo]

Welcome to paper

[spare venture]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-23918002

[waxen panther]

Damn that’s crazy

[foggy silo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/536735028131135498/913960450255892510/2B603234-E125-42B7-AA86-D3902F08FCEA.gif

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther thoughts on metric vs imperial

[foggy silo]

Guys this is getting political 😰

[spare venture]

no thoughts detected

[twin lagoon]

it is getting political

but not political enough

[spare venture]

it’s not political until jroy says something

[twin lagoon]

facts honestly

[foggy silo]

What is your favorite color?

Mine is blue 😄

😀

[waxen panther]

As someone with a moderately working brain, metric is better

[lavish crest]

The US Customary System is an outdated system of measurement.

[coarse venture]

The news mentioned that now that the UK is not part of Europe, that the products in grocery stores no longer are Required to have the metric system on them anymore. They're going back to the 1700s

[foggy silo]

Oh no

[spare venture]

why would you willingly

[twin lagoon]

it's getting political now

time to go to bed

[lavish crest]

So is the Imperial System.

[twin lagoon]

jroy can clean up

[undone blade]

People who think the UK isnt in europe are the worst.

IT DIDNT MOVE

[foggy silo]

🚪
🚪

Quick exit this way before jroy comes!

[waxen panther]

just because they don’t “have” to doesn’t mean suddenly the entire country will switch to imperial lol

[undone blade]

you cannot move a continent

[twin lagoon]

b*ris

[spare venture]

europe is a continent

uk is on a nearby island

[undone blade]

fail

[waxen panther]

terrible place anyway

[foggy silo]

🔥

[undone blade]

the UK is inside europe

[coarse venture]

my apartment is out of chocolate, and it's frustrating me.

[waxen panther]

@twin lagoon can I live with you and get a new citizenship

[undone blade]

its not 'nearby'

[spare venture]

well it’s not attached to europe my friend

[foggy silo]

Do you consume waffles/cheese often?

[twin lagoon]

ok

[coarse venture]

cheese, yes 😄 waffles, no.

[twin lagoon]

[waxen panther]

[spare venture]

that’s generally how continents work

[foggy silo]

:koriLaugh:

[waxen panther]

L

[coarse venture]

man, i put cheese on everything.

[twin lagoon]

[foggy silo]

Guys they should connect the continents, why are the land masses decentralized?

[undone blade]

Yeah but europe is the continent and the UK is still in europe regardless of us leaving the 'European UNION

[foggy silo]

Wouldn't that be cute?

[undone blade]

Thats where people get confused

[spare venture]

europe is a continent

[waxen panther]

thank you for bolding it

[undone blade]

Yes, it is

[foggy silo]

I thought europe was a state 🤔

[atomic onyx]

Could you guys guide me to the page where I can hire developers, like a papermc forum page or something

[waxen panther]

Maybe you could draw a red circle next time too

[undone blade]

LOL

[twin lagoon]

not a thing paper offers

[spare venture]

fr owen we should drain the oceans

[foggy silo]

That would be so cute and quirky.

[undone blade]

London isnt in in england confirmed

[coarse venture]

EU is a political system :p

[twin lagoon]

can the UK float away

[atomic onyx]

where does mc devs usually look for jobs tho

[waxen panther]

please

[undone blade]

Probably

[cunning raft]

we're going to stop now

[spare venture]

you kinda just stumble upon them

[twin lagoon]

there he is

[waxen panther]

based jroy

[twin lagoon]

mcmarket/spigotmc both have marketplace sections

[atomic onyx]

both didn't go well

[twin lagoon]

how

[atomic onyx]

looking for a 3rd option tbh

[spare venture]

it’s probably not going to be any better elsewhere

[twin lagoon]

well hold on what is your experience with the first two

[atomic onyx]

spigot staff hates me and mc market is just too amateur

[spare venture]

if you’re not hiring reputable developers

[coarse venture]

4 million mi² of EU continent. But certainly isn't a big one

[twin lagoon]

define spigot staff hates me

[void void]

Or rather, "what is your experience in the field to begin with"

[atomic onyx]

They don't let me post

[void void]

probs a factor too

[twin lagoon]

that's just basic post requirements

you need like 20 posts or something

[atomic onyx]

nah it's more personal

[void void]

👁️

[spare venture]

md5 specifically limited his account

[atomic onyx]

I got over 100 posts, It's a fresh thing

[twin lagoon]

i mean there's a marketplace section in the discord.gg/p2wfactions discord but whether you'll find anything there, no idea

[atomic onyx]

let me chcek thx

[foggy silo]

Anyways how is everyone liking papermc 1.19

[waxen panther]

terrible I only have 20tps

[warm anchor]

secret graph say yes @foggy silo

[coarse venture]

tests have been going fine.

[void void]

Haven't used it yet

[void void]

Wait right!

[cunning raft]

hate it

[void void]

Building my docker image for it in a bit

[waxen panther]

bad Michael no advertising

[void void]

so I can start playing around w/ it

[twin lagoon]

can't stop me now

[coarse venture]

he's having a good time

[waxen panther]

I hate all changes jroy has made

[foggy silo]

jroy do you have built up anger? 🥺

[waxen panther]

That’s a good point michael

[foggy silo]

paper mc general will be happy to help

[void void]

@coarse venture what do you do when around 3-6 mosquitoes swarm your screen?

[waxen panther]

You cannot be above me on the role list, we need fix is this

[twin lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-compelling-didnt-ask-dont-gif-24737803

[cunning raft]

@waxen panther

[coarse venture]

they wont make it that far

[waxen panther]

(I am the source of jroys anger)

[void void]

They're swarming my screen

That's why I was askin

for personal advice

[spare venture]

are mosquitos common in europe

[void void]

In summer?

In the netherlands without a doubt

[coarse venture]

before the evening i air out the apartment, bit of fresh air, and i close the doors and windows, and i put a brighter light on in a section of apartment that's not near my system, or my bedroom.

basically prevents them from coming in, what was in usually goes out with the draft, and the ones that are inside care more about the lit up area than my desk or bedroom.

[void void]

My room is really small, I can't do that LMAO

[coarse venture]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[void void]

whenever I do that my room is a big oven

[coarse venture]

and the rest..

[waxen panther]

before I go to bed I set my entire house on fire to make sure nothing is alive near me while I sleep

[void void]

because of my pc

heating up the entire room

[spare venture]

fortunately for you brocc nothing will ever be alive near your bed

[waxen panther]

interesting

no comment

[coarse venture]

party, savage.

[spare venture]

anime girls aren’t technically alive

[waxen panther]

my responses would not be appropriate for papermc and the fine moderation team that @twin lagoon commands

[twin lagoon]

single handedly carrying the mod team

[void void]

Wait

Michael

[spare venture]

head mod?

[void void]

if you're the reason my prod environment is down, why is it up and running?

[waxen panther]

is it tho

[spare venture]

chief moderation officer

CMO of PaperMC

[void void]

I have had 0 check_mk notifs

[waxen panther]

that’s chief Michael officer to you pal

[twin lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/bhop-csgo-nohat-xvap-xva-gif-15742503

[spare venture]

i stand corrected

[coarse venture]

running for his life

[void void]

Last CheckMK notif was 12:03 when fstrim wasn't on

It was going weewooweewoo a systemd service isn't running!

But that's all

That's been 3 hours ago

So I'm certain it's running

[coarse venture]

well, almost 4 am, i am wide awake, but i will go try sleep. i probably end up watching a movie on the ipad and then at 6 am when the sun turns my room into an orange morning feast of beautifulness, ill just get up and start a new day.

[void void]

Good idea, I agree

I'm joining in on the fun, but then instead in my own bed, in my own room

Goodbye

[foggy silo]

👋

[molten egret]

every night when you go to sleep I ctrl c c your servers

[void void]

You can't!

Even if you do

[molten egret]

if I do?

[void void]

It'll shutdown gracefully and rancher will boot it back up!

[molten egret]

nah

I forcably shut it down

[void void]

Or it won't shutdown gracefully...

Won't matter

[molten egret]

will it?

[void void]

I don't run mc on there anyway

Everything is without configuration data

[molten egret]

lol

[void void]

Some springboot scalable rest APIs

Load balancer

Nginx proxy

Yk the drill

You can ctrl c all of em, specifically the rest api's

[molten egret]

what if I clear all of the firewall rules

[void void]

Euhh

[molten egret]

then it blocks all requests

[void void]

Will it tho?

[molten egret]

yes

[void void]

I have 0 firewall rules setup

Never done so

[molten egret]

oh you use your provider firewall?

[void void]

Yeah

I believe so then

[molten egret]

well I can enable the linux one

block all incomming connections

[void void]

Idk if it'll be an issue or not, as my docker networking stuff has net admin, but who knows

[gusty oracle]

That's false. Unless I'm missing something

[coarse venture]

You can, the report form has java in the dropdown and asks for the java username, and field to describe the issue.

[molten egret]

how would they know?

[gusty oracle]

How would they know if that person actually sent a message. If chat signing is off

Servers spoofing player messages is really easy

[coarse venture]

That's up to the mod team to deal with, not my problem.

and has nothing to do with 'you can already report them'.

if you dont believe you can, or that it's useless due to spoofing, then dont report the person you're having an issue with, nobody's making you 😛

k, backups have synced up, i can go for realsies, [away from keyboard]

[molten egret]

it was the french

and people ask why I hate france

[coarse lily]

Hopefully this is just a joke

[spice ether]

https://tenor.com/view/baguette-zzzzz-simon-gif-18462341

[sudden basin]

The biggest issue I have is, as a trans person I’ve been punished on social media for telling terfs to fuck off my page, if I say that in Minecraft I could get banned from all server like WTF. Also what about anarchy servers

[coarse lily]

Yeah, but you're on Mojang's platform. So they get to decide if what you're saying means you get banned/lose your account/etc.

For better or worse.

"But I don't like that" is a fine opinion to have. It just doesn't really change the fact of the situation unfortunately.

[silver nexus]

i feel like it'll do more harm than good to the community but i understand why they would feel the need to do it

[sudden basin]

It’s not Mojang a platform if it’s not hosted on my server

Twitter I get it

[coarse lily]

It is if you're using their account with their authentication.

[sudden basin]

It’s a a public platform

[molten egret]

am I no longer allowed to discriminate?

[sudden basin]

Hosted by twitter

[foggy gyro]

fr

[molten egret]

welp

[sudden basin]

Are we really gonna need to have open source auth servers now : (

It’s just like Wow

[coarse lily]

Some people already use third party auth servers.

They aren't very popular.

[foggy gyro]

well i doubt you'll find "terfs" on a minecraft server, or atleast know that they are, plus i don't think telling them to "fuck off" would do anything, so no worries on that !

[sudden basin]

The issue comes in with AI moderation

And AI will just read the chat and be like DID YOU JUSR SAY FUCK BAN

I mean look how terrible YouTube is

[foggy gyro]

uhm well why did you say fuck in the first place? i wouldn't want my children to see people saying these type of stuff when they're like 10 years old

i don't think it was needed that you take some time to open your chat, write the word and press enter

[molten egret]

All of the furries that I flipped off are gonna mass report me now

[unkempt jackal]

i better take my mc username off my planet minecraft account

[foggy gyro]

also about this idk why you bring the fact that you are a trans person, seems a bit weird and unneeded, could have just said you've been punished on social media for saying bad words?

[coarse lily]

We don't really appreciate discrimination/bigotry here in general. You can see the rules for details.

If you want to hate on people/be bigoted then do it somewhere else. Or do it here and then get banned and then do it somewhere else.

[molten egret]

Dw I only discriminate in my server

Tbh it’s pretty mild

[foggy gyro]

💀

[molten egret]

I just scream furry in all caps every time they chat

[coarse lily]

Alright that's enough.

[molten egret]

O I’m getting banned I think

Cya

[foggy gyro]

I don't think you've broken any rule, yet

[sudden basin]

so does this just disable the mojang auth servers or does this just allow global moderation opt in for operators

[knotty iris]

anybody knows a plugin that lets me disguise as another player?
i want to play on my server without being recognized

[molten egret]

let's see, they type pretty long ban messages here

[foggy gyro]

If you search "Nick plugin" you'll find a few on spigot, one has 5 star rating and is 1.8-1.18

[unkempt jackal]

I mean I hate to see axolotl bucket dude go, since I really only pay attention to the chat while I lurk whenever he's in it

[sudden basin]

the only reason I brought it up, was since it has been used as a target by AI. the issue is, AI is rather bias and recent events may of made AI bias toward ruling trans poeple bad in reports, keep in mind this is how companies work. IE global moderation could lead to trans people being ruled NSFW in southern states as MIcrosoft would be liable to follow state law around children. not to get poltical that is just how it is at the moment. anyway I do wonder how this works

[cunning raft]

hey

lets not

[knotty iris]

well thats just too change ur username, i want a plugin which will change my skin and everything

[sudden basin]

given everything I have seen points the them having a report system

[knotty iris]

and make me appear like another person

[sudden basin]

but they mention third party servers

maybe the java report is for realms and or future featured servers in Java

[cunning raft]

politics and mojang moderation are two topics for not paper, the former for obvious reasons and the latter for the conspiracy theories

[molten egret]

o thx <3

[foggy gyro]

i'm pretty sure it would change your skin with the nick, "/randomnick - Picks up a random name and changes your tag & skin into this specific randomname"

[jade flax]

IIRC there was a plugin "Disguise" at one point

[spice ether]

Pineapple on pizza is right ?

[jade flax]

unless that was bundled into esx and I am just dumb

[cunning raft]

lol no we didn't bundle that , just displayname stuff

[knotty iris]

does lib's disguises allow me to disguise as another player?

[spare venture]

libs disguises can do that

yes

[knotty iris]

ty

im going to install it on my towny server

and try to join people's towns

[molten egret]

is there one for veloicty?

[knotty iris]

:troll:

[foggy gyro]

Maybe the bias is justified for the AI then the computer just learned it

[unkempt jackal]

disguising yourself on a server sounds really cool actually

[spare venture]

well it doesn’t do much more than change your skin

i don’t know of any straight up impersonation plugins

[foggy gyro]

Also can you provide me some source about the "made AI bias toward ruling trans poeple bad in reports" that is not some obscure unknown website?

[cunning raft]

drop it

last warning

[foggy gyro]

you mean me?

[cunning raft]

both of you

[sudden basin]

AI is not very smart

it can be for certian things

[molten egret]

shhh

[sudden basin]

understanding humans is hard

[spare venture]

ok

[molten egret]

anyone chatting is abt to get banned

[foggy gyro]

I thought this was the offtopic chat, nevermind then

[sudden basin]

humans are complex and act differently than even people who study them think

[molten egret]

I don't want that to happen

[spare venture]

if they ask you to stop, probably stop

[unkempt jackal]

anyone know if shrieker warnings are per player or per shrieker?

[spare venture]

what is a shrieker

[sudden basin]

anyway I am going to study the moderation a bit more and write out a document of my findings regarding it

[molten egret]

wana make a chat for this convo?

[jade flax]

Take it to dm's

[molten egret]

like private so it doesn't bother the mods

[foggy gyro]

zzZZZZzzz

public chat are great for this because it let anyone join and participate to the conversation, doing it in dms is not really interesting, i have not seen any rule that said it was not allowed to talk about AI in the offtopic channel

but i'll stop there as you asked

[jade flax]

If mods ask you to stop, why do you keep pushing the issue

just drop it, it is that simple

[foggy gyro]

[spare venture]

starfield sounds too good to be true for a bethesda game

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

[foggy silo]

@eager orbit

[eager orbit]

ello

gn

[unkempt jackal]

it's so cool how minecraft does this thing where it goes down and I can't log in and play funny block game

just venting, I understand this is a matter completely unrelated to papermc

[spice ether]

Time to go back and play with Lego ?

[umbral turret]

It's so cool that I can't play my singleplayer game offline because of an account error

[vestal jasper]

when in doubt https://classic.minecraft.net/

[unkempt jackal]

THIS! why is offline mode so incredibly useless in situations like this! Is minecraft really so against me being able to play my single player world while their servers are funky?

[vestal jasper]

It's somewhat of a necessity to require players to login to play the game at all

Otherwise what system is stopping the average person from just launching and playing the game without one

[icy fox]

can anyone help me with this?

everytime i leave my world, the game crashes

[foggy gyro]

do you have a mod called "fast util" ?

@icy fox

[true canyon]

fastutil is a library that is likely used by a lot of projects. Not gonna be helpful there.

Maybe MC itself even uses it 🤷

[foggy gyro]

well that's true i just saw that it was the util package

i didn't see the it. before so i assumed it was the . . .

[icy fox]

no?

[foggy gyro]

are you on vanilla?

[icy fox]

nope, using fabric with a few client side mods

[foggy gyro]

probably one of the mods causing the issue

[icy fox]

i think its a one time thing

its working fine now

[cyan harness]

are the new 1.19 builds safe the use?

[muted mirage]

blue

[cyan harness]

?

[void void]

-.-

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/886245965156220928/985750824850448394/unknown.png

-.-

[true canyon]

https://forums.papermc.io/threads/paper-1-19.344/

[midnight copper]

i would make fun of the microsoft account migration here if not for the fact the old minecraft servers used to go down for no reason too

lmao

[coarse lily]

Try to keep your paper help issues in #paper-help and don't crosspost, thanks!

[void void]

Sorry

[zenith maple]

rly

[void void]

mojang being cringe rn

[zenith maple]

not mojang

microsoft XBOX

[void void]

ms

yeah ms

[zenith maple]

it was never been so cringe

before migration

i remember when you just could launch game but official auth servers were down

but now you cant even launch it

[umbral turret]

What ever happened to offline mode anyways?

I swore you used to be able to play singleplayer when you had no connection and you didn't have to deal with this absolute bs

[zenith maple]

when you by default rarely play online mode but now cant even play offline lmao

[void void]

you can still play offline

[zenith maple]

demo is limited, no?

[void void]

with external launchers such as polymc (fork of multimc, without thnigs such as the patreon button, etc)

[void void]

true

only 1 world

but techicalllyif you modify the world.dat file

you can make the timer infinite

multimc wong work

use polymc

polymc is a fork of multimc

https://polymc.org/

not to mention it has these

and this

... You don't need an embedded web browser for a game launcher. ...
i think they are making fun of mc launcher lmao

yeah

so many "apps" are just a electron version of the web version

take discord for example

or microsoft teams

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

https://www.minecraft.net/content/dam/minecraft/pdf/accordion_pdf_v1/en-us/StorePlatformCompareGrid_en-us.pdf

demo mode dosent let me play forge bruv ._.

oh okay, let me just edit minecraft's sourcecode then

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/972929027222421534.webp?size=64&quality=lossless

ohhh wait

its not under gpl 3

🥲

yeah

like

i understand why they cant make it foss or just os

cause they still need money, duh

wdym

wait

java has no controller support???

BAHAHAHAHAHAAH

MOJANG KNOWS PPL

💀

yeah, if your gonna tick of mods, add something lick a ✅*

[coarse lily]

They aren't gonna mention Geyser on the Microsoft website . . .

[jade flax]

I mean, they have devs that started as mod developers

[void void]

ofc they arent, its 3rd party software

[coarse lily]

Yes, I know.

[coarse lily]

Which is why I said that.

[void void]

bruh ._.

so they are telling us,

realms gives you crossplay

oh boy i sure cant do that for free on my java edition minecraft server

no shit. you cant even add plugins

or datapacks

or anything

^^

or really any vps

not to mention

its impossible to run anything other than latest version on relms

also no way to run paper or spigot or anything like that

also no way to modify the "server"'s files

[runic surge]

[knotty kelp]

Paper is out right?

Ok

[warm anchor]

[solid ibex]

🚑

[sturdy dragon]

My server is timing out. Can anyone help

[wraith trail]

please head to #paper-help

[void void]

thank you paper ❤️

1.19

eyes are now on plugin developers 😂

[warm anchor]

Please be patient

[void void]

yes, dangerous situation.

i will not raise it immediately

[spice plinth]

Can confirm the lag is insanely bad from many DO servers xDD
They have meh bandwidth for games

[primal solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364502598805356545/985777854589591592/121B6072-251F-483E-BC12-F55D7191E6F2.jpg

THis looks like a geyser issue right?

[primal solar]

Oh basically trades dont work for bedrock users^^

oops forgot to say that

[warm anchor]

Ask the plugin that offers you crsssplay for support, it has nothing to do with paper

[unkempt jackal]

geysermc should have a list of features that haven't been implemented yet, such as trading

[signal harbor]

finally at peace, no more /eta

[eager orbit]

What’s eta

[mental meadow]

electric tree accident

[warm anchor]

Good morning @mental meadow

[mental meadow]

good mooorning

and what a good morning it is

https://twitter.com/PaperPowered/status/1536239180245778432

PaperMC (@PaperPowered)

Great news! Initial 1.19 builds are now released & available on our homepage & downloads API.
Find out all you need to know in our forums:
https://t.co/In8YDaBKLv
You'll also find links on how to support the project & the people behind the update there.

Twitter · Jun 13, 2022, 6:48 AM

follow us on twitter

[warm anchor]

[mental meadow]

[green pollen]

anyone can give me paper 1.8 download link ?

[crystal lily]

To download old versions of Paper, click here ➡️ papermc.io/legacy ⬅️ and fill out the questions. Note that old versions are completely unsupported and contain numerous bugs/exploits.

[magic river]

TIL Microsoft is the only big corporation with a higher bond rating than the US government

[remote latch]

Hey! Any recommendations for an anti-cheat? Spartan is quite expensive so wanna make sure its worth it 😄

[worthy geode]

Vulcan is better than Spartan as far as I am aware

iirc Spartan has some major performance issues and is one of the only major ACs that isn't properly async

I mean, HDD slow anyways so I doubt formatting makes any difference here

[remote latch]

Thank you Malfrador! Will check out Vulcan now

[magic river]

That's not NTFS doing that, it's the IO subsystem of Windows

If you used an ntfs driver on Linux the perf would be comparable to other Linux setups while if you used ext4 on Windows it would be just as slow as what you have now

They're optimized for different things

(and the Windows one just kind of sucks)

[worthy geode]

WSL2? that def should work fine

[magic river]

Make sure if you use WSL2 you put all your stuff on the Linux filesystem

Don't leave it in C:\Users\whatever and try to use the network share to access it

[worthy geode]

WSL would fix the build times for sure, I get about 2-3 min for applyPatches

any error messages or something?

[magic river]

You could always... not use an IDE 😄

You mean gradlew, right?

[worthy geode]

I just installed wsl from the store, downloaded intellij + jdk, cloned paper and everything worked.
tbh I was surprised how good it worked, wsl used to be a lot worse

[magic river]

Although knowing the command only matters if you're trying to use the terminal

If you're just running tasks in the gradle view in the IDE it handles all that

[eager portal]

Hey, I am looking for an Automatic Sorting System Plugin. Does anyone know a good one?

I found SimpleSorting, but wanted to see if there are any alternatives..

[worthy geode]

you might need to use the terminal when using it the first time, intellij sometimes fails to recognize the paper gradle tasks before applyPatches

[formal tusk]

check chestsort+ by mfnalex

[worthy geode]

I remember seeing ChestCleaner being used somewhere. it seemed decent

it will show some weird error about gradle extensions before applyPatches was run, so maybe it was just that

[eager portal]

Thank you, but this is not really what I was looking for. I want to have a drop-off chest, which then sorts all my items to the corresponding chest. I just don't want to use hoppers etc. because of performance

Other question: How can I activate automatic backups of my server? Is this also a plugin?

[worthy geode]

Most hosts also offer some backup feature in their panel

(shutting down first is debatable - on linux backing up while the server is running works fine. its only windows that has issues with multiple programs accessing the same file)

[magic river]

"fine"

You may or may not get a working world depending on what was happening to the file when you backed it up

But with enough backups you can stitch a working one together

[mental meadow]

I'm just using
save-off
save-all
wait like 20s
copy files
save-on

[vagrant marlin]

/save-off
backup
/save-on

oh yeah, save all too

ive got it like that

[mental meadow]

Not perfect but still better compared to just copying without doing anything

[magic river]

Doesn't save-all have a flag to force it to block the main thread until the queue is clear?

[mental meadow]

If it does it would be epic

[worthy geode]

isn't it doing that always? at least it definitely causes lag when a lot of chunks are loaded and need saving

[mental meadow]

But don't I still need to wait for a few seconds until everything is actually written to disk and not just cached somewhere?

[magic river]

save-all flush

All the chunks are saved to the data storage device immediately, freezing the server for a short time.

[smoky cloud]

I save-off, tail the log until “Saved the world” appears, save-on

[terse sparrow]

Is there a channel I ask in in this discord for server host suggestions? Shockbyte just ain’t doing it to get a ticket support response that’s about 48 hours minimum. And I’m not even exaggerating they even said minimum that long.

[vagrant marlin]

TIL

[vagrant marlin]

pufferfish.host, dedicatedmc.io, bloom.host

[magic river]

You don't need it to actually be on disk to back it up, just being in the kernel writeback cache is enough

[vagrant marlin]

havent used any of those, but ive heard all are decent

[terse sparrow]

K thank you.

[worthy geode]

used bloom for over a year now, no issues at all

[magic river]

flush should at least get it out to the kernel, unless that broke at some point or Spigot/Paper break it

If they wanted to be extra cool flush would also be doing fsync but that would freeze the server for a quite a bit longer if you have a HDD

[formal tusk]

which plugin is this,can any1 recommend anti lag plugin for 1.18

[vagrant marlin]

dont use a plugin like that

[worthy geode]

and item stacking specifically is something even vanilla does

[formal tusk]

what about limiting entities to certain no per chunk?

[mental meadow]

Limiting is okay, but things like MobStackers usually mangle data & break more stuff (source: I've tried writing one lol)

[glad hornet]

Gotta say I'm so glad the expenses for the Paper project are well over covered. It's basically as good as air for me, since the day I've swapped it in my configuration.

[round lagoon]

Initial Build for 1.19 is the Full Version Right ?

[formal tusk]

yes i am finding the plugin that does that do u know any

[glad hornet]

To all the people who donated for PaperMc, I thank you! (because I'm a poor potat and can't)

[mental meadow]

We never released half versions :p

[vagrant marlin]

pepar full version: 200 dolar

pepar-half demo is fre

[smoky cloud]

Paper+

[vagrant marlin]

paper+++

[full rune]

er

[smoky cloud]

With async entity tracking

[mental meadow]

FastAsyncPaper soon

[vagrant marlin]

finally

[round lagoon]

Official 1.19 like the are finished with his work sry for My englisch

[mental meadow]

We are never finished with work, but they are not experimental anymore

[round lagoon]

Okay good thx

[smoky cloud]

Which you should be doing anyway

[round lagoon]

Someone know a Good Server Overylay something for the Browser what Admins can use to Kick ban like a console and a Map where i can See all Players ?

[vagrant marlin]

🤨

[round lagoon]

I found this but i don’t know of this work with Paper 😅 https://www.gameserverapp.com

[mental meadow]

no thats correct

he is knenwald

oh god I have 2 amazon deliveries coming today and they both are the same distance/stops away but on the opposite sides of the street
this is exciting who will arrive first

will they fight to death for their glory

[rustic valve]

Aw shucks, I’ve missed the MC update. Means I couldn’t join the “paper when” 😦

[faint crystal]

hangar when is better anyway

[rustic valve]

Don’t even know what that is

[faint crystal]

"Papers upcoming Plugin Repository"

that we're all waiting for

for a very long time

[rustic valve]

“Upcoming” tm

[faint crystal]

yes

[rustic valve]

Where’s Catz when you need’m

[crystal lily]

Hangar is our upcoming plugin repository. For further information and to follow the development join the Hangar Discord: https://discord.gg/zvrAEbvJ4a

[mental meadow]

I even added a command for it smh

[rustic valve]

Given that I no longer really do anything related to MC, specifically hosting, I didn’t really feel it necessary to go spelunking for proper info.

Had I done something as such I would likely already know and keep a keen eye on it. ^^

[rustic valve]

It’s the thought that counts

[signal harbor]

@mental meadow how does it feel not being asked about 1.19 every day

[rustic valve]

Don’t forget, you could change that easily, @signal harbor

[faint crystal]

YeAh sO iS PaPeR 1.19 StAbLe NoW?

[worn ember]

Hangar wen

[rustic valve]

Be the change you wish to see in the world

[worn ember]

No u

[rustic valve]

Yes, me!

[faint crystal]

nah man that's too much work ima just keep to complaining

[rustic valve]

Who’s to say that isn’t the change you wish to see?

[faint crystal]

me

[signal harbor]

id rather not

[mental meadow]

pog I have LED headlights for our car now

finally

I've calculated that exchanging our headlights to LED headlights will save us an astonishing 10€ in fuel per year

[faint crystal]

that's a lot

how much did the headlights cost

[mental meadow]

103€

for a pair

[faint crystal]

let's hope they survive 10 years then

[mental meadow]

and since they have approx. 6x the lifetime compared to normal halogen lamps & we had to switch halogen lights maybe every 2 years or so they should pay for themselves over their lifetime

now I only have to print 13 pages of certification and carry them in the car at all times

[twin lagoon]

2

intellij's wsl integration is suboptimal

[void void]

@warm anchor ay congrats on mod

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor fucking weeb

[mental meadow]

Michael is salty bc people congratulate Eternity but not him

[void void]

LOL

sorry

[twin lagoon]

no i don't give a shit

eternity's just a weeb

[void void]

i was searching back stuff and noticed eternity red name

[signal harbor]

smart person

[mental meadow]

[void void]

is $1/mo enough for sponsor role

[mental meadow]

yea

[void void]

i've been donating for a few months but never bothered asking

[signal harbor]

if 100 people donate $1 a month that is 100 dollars so its decent i suppose

[snow iron]

completely random question that has nothing to do with the current convo, but any server owners here know any current competent /team /clan plugin, simple is fine, paid or free I dont care as long as it works. just looking for recomendations

[mental meadow]

do you have your profile linked or smth? proof and you'll get it :3

[void void]

OC username is just Void4x8 (Void#8888)

[void void]

like link my discord to OC?

[mental meadow]

good enough

[snow iron]

paper should have a competitor called scissors MC or something

[signal harbor]

and rock mc

[void void]

tyty

[rare flame]

generally 9p (the fs used to access wsl) has a shitty perf so if you have to do something like this its better to use either only wsl fs or windows fs without crossing the boundary between them

[thorny rivet]

Does ./sh $> test.log make any sense? I suspect they wanted to redirect it with &>, but googling such special characters isn't so good

last search result was how I can pay at shell gas stations lol

[rare flame]

no, not really

[devout hare]

hey can i ask can i download paper 1.19 like its released for playing server?

[thorny rivet]

I think so

but as with everything software, stability increases over time

(but also: testers are required for that obviously)

[molten egret]

Yeah, but it’s not tested a lot yet

When can I get cat power ;-;

This is Oreo, he’s fat

[devout hare]

I Like him

[void void]

good job paper team 👏

I estimated about months but it was done within days !

[rustic valve]

Have you calculated the extra fuel consumption based on the weight of these?

[twin lagoon]

you can install idea without toolbox

[void void]

q

[molten egret]

Just install Linux fully

Then dual boot

Find better games

Like Minecraft

Wdym

[twin lagoon]

yes thank you for giving useful advice ./s

[earnest kelp]

ihr hurensöhne bringt endlich raus

[molten egret]

No

English pls

[twin lagoon]

english but thanks i guess

ok proceeds to leave

well yes you wanted to overcomplicate dual booting

[mental meadow]

I think the weight difference is comparable to having a bit of dust on your car lol

You need to calculate how much money you save because you have better sight now and that lowers your cahcne of accidents

[thorny rivet]

seems I'm the only one, but I just do my patches on plain old windows

no WSL anything

[molten egret]

Mine works fine with grub

Well they are on separate disks

[worthy geode]

its an IntelliJ issue, other programs look fine. no idea what they messed up with the windows

[rare flame]

i don’t think so, its because of x11 forwarding, many apps are like that for me but i think i had a fix for that somewhere

[worthy geode]

theres an issue on the IJ bugtracker about, mmh

[molten egret]

What are you running?

OS…

O

[gentle burrow]

are the blue paper builds good to use?

[mental meadow]

they are no longer marked as experimental, read the full #announcements

[lilac moon]

A

[novel horizon]

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[novel horizon]

O_o

[sweet parrot]

o,o

[molten egret]

OwO

[quasi valley]

didn't know our bot was russian

[rare flame]

if you want to have idea in wsl then you dont use the toolbox

[lilac moon]

idk I just install each jetbrains app as a separate package on my pc

since my distro has individual packages for each

[molten egret]

nvm

[lilac moon]

They said they were using ubuntu

[molten egret]

they are using wsl tho

[lilac moon]

Wait then why not install it on windows natively

[molten egret]

this ;-;

yeah I just install it normally on windows and it works fine

[rare flame]

i think it can but i'm not sure

[molten egret]

I don't think there was an installer on ubuntu atleast

I think I just used a zip

[rare flame]

no installer, you extract it somewhere and make a link to idea.sh script

[lilac moon]

that's cursed

[molten egret]

it has a built in desktop install thing

[lilac moon]

Installers on Linux are even more cursed though

[molten egret]

once you start it there is a button in settings to install a desktop file

[lilac moon]

that is so cursed

[molten egret]

debs are nice

[rare flame]

i just make my own links so nothing fucks up

[lilac moon]

yeah package management is good

[molten egret]

it just makes a desktop file so it's probs fine

.appimages are only ok for tool programs ig

why do you have a deb package on windows?

just run the native windows idea

[rare flame]

that's not what he asked for really

[molten egret]

lol

wouldn't gradle be slower in wsl?

[rare flame]

it depends if the project is on wsl partition or not

[molten egret]

oh

[lilac moon]

there's weird gradle stuff in windows iirc

[rare flame]

you may try running idea on windows but at least from my experience gradle isn't that slow on windows so there may be other circumstances that influence the speed

oh

i think you misunderstood

it's not that windows io is slow

where is your project?

on windows or wsl?

[void void]

did minecraft every give paper the um files

[rare flame]

firstly, i'd clone the project on wsl

without installing idea

and run

./gradlew applyPatches

on wsl

and then you will see whether it's faster or not

[twin lagoon]

applypatches is slow the first time since it has to do a bit of preparation work

it's only slow the first time

[quasi valley]

ur slow all the time

[twin lagoon]

kenny no one asked

[quasi valley]

wow bullying

[vernal moth]

3 min is still slow af, lol

For initial run it might be ok

Or no, jmp fixed spigot decompile

That used to take 90 seconds on my machine

[twin lagoon]

the initial run takes like 2 minutes here

cached it'll take less than 10s

[vernal moth]

Well, appP on windows is still a bit slower than 10s

[quasi valley]

"a bit"

[mossy vessel]

Perfect time to grab a coffee

[mental meadow]

y'all I'm disappointed, more than 1000 reactions to #announcements but not even 100 likes on twitter smh
https://twitter.com/PaperPowered/status/1536239180245778432
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[spice ether]

Eh Elon doesn't own Twitter yet so am not interested 🤣

[mental meadow]

ah yes, because that's the issue with twitter, not being owned by a sexual abuser got it

[spice ether]

Ooo rekt

[last talon]

Hi, is it the case of this cfg

chuj:
  kutas:
    '0':
      length: "30cm"

config.contains("chuj.kutas.0") will return true?

[rare flame]

XDXDDXDXDXX man

[last talon]

In 1.18.2

[molten egret]

Ew twitter

[spice ether]

For real tho i can't remember last time I did login to that site

[true canyon]

One retweet = one prayer 🙏

[last talon]

What ? Xd

[mental meadow]

exacrly

[jagged egret]

http://tryitands.ee

[warm anchor]

[simple karma]

haha funny

[last talon]

It's not funny xd

[simple karma]

i know that language bro

idk whats in your brain rn

[last talon]

XD

[simple karma]

🍆