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cosmic raft
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@twin lagoon hola

twin lagoon
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hello

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@untold meadow @lavish compass @cosmic raft meowhuggies

twin lagoon
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already did

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love innit .

lavish compass
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real buzzin

untold meadow
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@twin lagoon read dms ?

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i sent funny meme

twin lagoon
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you did not send any

untold meadow
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I

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i did

twin lagoon
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oh you did

untold meadow
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smh

lavish compass
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michael's disability to read dms proof #2012

twin lagoon
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so true tbh

untold meadow
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becomes moderator and immediately becomes unreachable

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classic

twin lagoon
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starting to become inactive

untold meadow
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it was inevitable

lavish compass
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michael when do you wake up on work days

twin lagoon
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depends

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usually go to bed at 3am

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wake up around 11

lavish compass
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that's an

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interesting cycle

twin lagoon
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sigma grindset

small pendant
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Hello!

tidal valley
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com.github.johnrengelman.shadow

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whats this?

void void
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That’s the gradle shadow plugin

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It lets you include dependencies in your jar, similar to maven’s shading

tidal valley
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Im trying to use spongepowered mixins with forge 1.8.9

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do you know if it should generate a mixin.modid.refmap.json?

void void
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Shadow doesn’t do anything with mixins

tidal valley
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ik

void void
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And I don’t think that forge version supports them

wet storm
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oh, mixins on old forge versions is a great PITA

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I mean, they support, but you need to do a huge mess with core mods and proper gradle config

tidal valley
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ive imported spongepowered stuff

wet storm
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oh, I hope it is a pvp client, not a hacked one

mental meadow
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@twin lagoon uwu

tidal valley
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haha not a pvp client

twin lagoon
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uwu

tidal valley
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A hypixel lobby fishing helper

mossy vessel
twin lagoon
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@mossy vessel panda_flush

mossy vessel
solid flower
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What do you guys think about the warden? pepoDownonu

vernal moth
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Am alive, wooo

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And it looks like I didn't post too much bullshit anywhere, so that's a plus

ashen cliff
vernal moth
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Idk haven't checked yet

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Looking down on me the most important one is still there so that's good enough 😂

meager tusk
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hi

meager tusk
wet storm
meager tusk
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IPKO.

ashen cliff
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ŠIPKO BRE!

meager tusk
cedar spade
twin lagoon
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not here @fervent bone

graceful wyvern
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youre not here

twin lagoon
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ew jackson

lavish compass
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I love fastxml

ashen cliff
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Straight to hell we go.

vernal moth
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Thankfully we don't really need VMware anymore

worn ember
native wolf
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oh shit

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how'd that happen

quasi valley
spiral robin
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yuaHappy @warm anchor

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@mossy vessel yuaAyaya

warm anchor
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Good morning aber!

mossy vessel
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good morning

spiral robin
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Hello friends

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Good evening

quiet mesa
quiet mesa
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really dont understand VSCode... only this program give me errors try to read the PK in a custom file...

twin lagoon
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ensure you have proper file permissions on your key

quiet mesa
jade garnet
half escarp
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anyone know a self hostable drive that i can upload my files there and share them anywhere?

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it should support all types of files

warm anchor
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Basically any hardware can be turn into one (?)

half escarp
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yeah but there must be software to provide nice website with GUI

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so i can upload files anytime from anywhere and share

tawdry hazel
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iCloud

twin lagoon
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nextcloud

quiet mesa
half escarp
vestal jasper
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@twin lagoon

void void
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you can disable signups

twin lagoon
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@vestal jasper uwu

vestal jasper
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uwu

half escarp
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ok thanks

void void
mental meadow
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ah

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finally

golden gust
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finally they announce it

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I can now stop biting my tongue

mental meadow
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:')

void void
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How long until the first '1.19 paper wen????' people arrive

golden gust
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generally like a day or two before mojang releases

twin lagoon
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eta wen

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@golden gust where pre release download

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sir pls

golden gust
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week or so before that we'll get the "paper 1.19 snapshot?

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fuck

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Michael, go suck a toe

quasi valley
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go suck cat's toe

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(the only one he still has left)

mental meadow
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@cosmic raft your time to shine

golden gust
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wow, kneny

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can you like, not mock me

mental meadow
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kash uwu <3

golden gust
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Next I feel like you're gonna be bullying me over my beer opening toof

unkempt drift
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KENNY @quasi valley @quasi valley make sure you pull latest from master

golden gust
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#NeverGonnaLiveThatDown

quasi valley
wet storm
twin lagoon
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that reminds me

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i gotta get the test server back up again

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unfortuantely we lost the 1.18 world but for 1.19 it has to be reset anyways

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this time hosted on my own hardware so it won't disappear randomly PepeLol

broken crest
twin lagoon
vernal moth
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We need to get that fantastic pixel art paper Logo at spawn again

twin lagoon
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the 1.18 spawn was fucking dope

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think kenny might still have an old backup of it

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need to get something in the ugly mangrove biome for 1.19

quasi valley
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hmm let me see, I should

autumn glen
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Hahaha before i knew it 1.19 channel was made

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deja vu

quasi valley
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445mb

twin lagoon
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that's definitely it because i'm the only person who uses .tar.zst for some reason

quasi valley
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lol

wet storm
ripe sphinx
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what's .zst?

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I assume it's some form of compression?

quasi valley
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zstandard compression

ripe sphinx
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ah

void void
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im in need of help and now i just imagined getting help from electroniccat himself

spare venture
void void
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Oh Daniel

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Maybe you can help. Do you know if there's a help channel here somewhere?

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or maybe in DMs

wet storm
void void
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it's more of a Visual Studio Code/Maven type of a problem

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not specifically a paper related thing

wet storm
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I don't think something would be wrong if you ask here

lilac moon
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the only good thing Facebook has made

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its super fast and has super good compression

wet storm
lilac moon
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eh

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ok

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I didn't know Facebook made that

warm oriole
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question for contributors/experienced community members here:

Feather client (a client built on top of forge/fabric, 90k discord members) has added a new feature called 'servers': it's basically a gui for all the command line arguments for starting a server up. One of the preinstall settings is to use the paper server jar, would this go against the license?

worthy geode
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Hosters do this all the time, I don't see why that would be against the license

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And the download API is pretty much made for applications like this. As long as they are distributing paperweight and not a patched server that should be fine iirc

warm oriole
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okay, thanks

worn ember
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as long as its not a pay to use feature i think

meager tusk
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Wait.

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@twin lagoon Is a mod here now.

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BRO.

twin lagoon
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IDRIZ!

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BRO!

meager tusk
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WHAT'S UP BRO.

twin lagoon
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Idriz I see you in my Twitter timeline shitposting in Arabic daily

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What happened bro.

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You have changed

meager tusk
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I don't even know how they got there.

ashen cliff
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Fact.

mental meadow
magic river
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TIL Broadcom isn't even Broadcom anymore

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It was purchased by a company called Avago which then renamed itself Broadcom

still sorrel
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ayo wtf

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warden blast now ignores armor enchantments

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will this mean an api will become available for doing damage while ignoring armor enchantments?

magic river
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Err, that is/was already a thing

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I think they removed it?

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Or made it not work

still sorrel
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you had to set the health

magic river
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No

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EntityDamageEvent.DamageModifier

vernal moth
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Spigot wanted to kill it or something

worthy geode
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it doesn't really work

vernal moth
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I remember a forum thread

still sorrel
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that's stupid

magic river
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You could set the damage for the armor enchantments modifier to 0

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Implementing it was... awful

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The problem is events try to happen before a thing occurs rather than attempt to undo the thing if you cancel/modify the event

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But the logic for calculating those modifiers is a bit insane

quiet mesa
magic river
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So calculating them ahead of time outside of the normal damage flow is weird

magic river
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Go complain to them 😄

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I'm just saying you're asking for a thing we did 8 years ago

worn ember
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yeah dude, we want 20 year compatibility

quiet mesa
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XD i need check i dont see/use this things... Many time try a PR for difference into void damage for negative y and the kill command

magic river
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No no, I'm saying this is a thing we already had

ripe sphinx
magic river
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If someone has since removed it then odds are it isn't coming back

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It's not like this is a missing thing, this would be a removed intentionally thing

worthy geode
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its still there, it just has some issues (enchanted tridents? iirc).
also it makes the whole damage() method even harder to understand than its already is

magic river
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Oh yeah, it sucks trying to make the server have a separation of concerns when it really doesn't while also trying to have minimal diff

worthy geode
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there is a lot of drama and very typical md_5 comments in the forum thread about its removal, but I get why he wanted to get rid of it. very limited usecase, hard to maintain, adding a concept to the API that doesn't exist in vanilla and also causing pvp differences compared to vanilla

warm anchor
worthy geode
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my australian isn't good enough for that kekw

magic river
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It's a concept that exists in vanilla

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Vanilla is just shit code

golden gust
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Issue with much of this stuff is that mojang has rotting shit

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and then you have the rotting shit from CB which is barely maintained

magic river
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The problem is the damage calculations are just a stream of modifications to a single number while also doing things like modifying weapon/armor durability and crap

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We had to extract the calculations out into just doing the calculations

golden gust
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Like, the best thing that you could do for some of this crap is to just bite the bullet and try to rewrite it, but then you gotta maintain that shit which is probs gonna result in a divergence, etc

magic river
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We also then run them as a stream to collect the difference before/after as the modifier value

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One of the oldest tickets in the Bukkit JIRA was to have the ability to negate armor in the damage event

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One of the last things we did before quitting was finally close that ticket 😄

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I think the ticket number was single digits

golden gust
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Issues like that are always fun

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#NeverForgetMC4

magic river
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Our implementation kind of sucked but that's Minecraft

worthy geode
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I thought about using that API for our combat system but I ran into some issues with certain damage. im now kinda thinking about modifying the damage method directly but its just horrible so I haven't started yet kekw

golden gust
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our MC4 equiv is probs some villager custom trade issue thing which will forever stick around

magic river
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We were presenting the data people wanted and allowing them to modify it the best way we could figure out while maintaining a minimal diff

golden gust
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for much of this stuff the best thing you could do is remove CBs code, and evaluate over wether it makes sense to rehook or just rewrite

magic river
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It definitely worked in 1.7

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I have no doubt it broke after that

golden gust
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Yea, it did, mojang refactored the code around 1.9ish or something which is when he wanted to remove it

muted storm
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damage modifiers, like proper brigadier completion, is one of those big issues I've always wanted to tackle over a weekend or something but could never come up with a good API for

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or impl for that matter

magic river
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The API we came up with isn't bad, aside from being an enum

golden gust
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I'm honestly just about to rewrite the command system

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Especially with the modern stuff coming into play

magic river
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Like, the modifiers run in a certain order but that doesn't actually matter to the event because we give you the differences aka the actual damage each one does

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So at that point they could happen in any order

muted storm
golden gust
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I know md was against adding brig to the API at some point

muted storm
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*exposing brig, yes

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Because it's just meh

worthy geode
golden gust
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I mean, I was for the most part looking into baby bugger bumpering it

muted storm
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That's way too English for me to understand

worthy geode
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But iirc mojang is still planning to replace the current combat at some point, so not sure if its worth changing that API right now

golden gust
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You can't really avoid exposing that without just basically tryna over-abstract the thing

magic river
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I suppose the order they run matters if you want to make sure they died from a specific kind of damage

worthy geode
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that reminds me of API for the combat tracker that I wanted to add at some point lol

golden gust
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I wanna get away from the stupid ass SimpleCommandMap and the syncCommands method which is just a royale PITA

magic river
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Hey it made sense in 2011 😛

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It was better than what vanilla had

golden gust
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Like, we are going to need to look at dealing with some of this stuff soon especially as mojang adds fancy stuff to the game

worn ember
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new command system would be poggers, hate having to rely on 3rd party to have a sensible command system

golden gust
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well, we still have to maintain support for PluginCommands

unkempt drift
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just switch on strings for commands

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ez

golden gust
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idk exactly how brig will be exposed but it's probs not gonna be super amazing in a sense and will literally involve a good bunch of wrappers

worn ember
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not if you fork bukkit /s

magic river
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vanilla being more powerful/flexible than the API has been a problem since 1.5 or 1.6 when they added attributes and scoreboards and command blocks and /entitydata and etc

worthy geode
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yeah breaking all commands from all current plugins might be a bit bad

golden gust
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Nah, we'd never bundle in an opinionated library

magic river
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Native ACF 😛

worn ember
unkempt drift
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nah, the command system the api has doesn't need to be anywhere as involved as cloud

worthy geode
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Cloud is probably a bit too much for the average user

golden gust
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Like, at the end of the day if you're using cloud, you're probs gonna stick to cloud

magic river
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brig is something you should probably just expose directly

foggy silo
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Wdym an opinionated library?

magic river
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Like, it's meant to be an API

golden gust
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But, we can at least aim to expose enough stuff that those plugins become less hacky

foggy silo
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^ it’s open source and documented!

worn ember
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good for you blaze

golden gust
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opinionated, i.e. it's designed with raw opinions over functionaility which either you love or you hate

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it has lots of extra fluff which makes it its own entire solution stack vs just being brig

foggy silo
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Ahhh

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Yeah haven’t used it myself but makes sense.

worthy geode
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Cloud is nice, its just way too much for what most people need in their plugins

worn ember
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gonna have to write my own command wrapper now since ACF doesnt support sponge 8 (and 9 for that matter)
but i honestly can't be asked

magic river
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brig is of course itself opinionated but to us it's not opinion, it's law

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Because we have to use it

worn ember
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just tell mojang their opinion is wrong

magic river
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Anything on top of brig that isn't helpers you can build up incrementally would be an opinionated framework

worn ember
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EpicCommandBuilderFactory

magic river
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brig plus some helper functions you can call to do common things is one thing, a whole different looking system that happens to call out to brig under the covers is another

worthy geode
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as long as Brig doesn't require a phd like DFU kekw

foggy silo
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Being able to divert logic to separate nodes seems very nice.

worn ember
cosmic raft
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Oh please @worthy geode

foggy silo
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Such as auto completion

cosmic raft
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It’s just some light reading

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Point-free Program Transformation: https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/pfpt.pdf
The essence of strategic programming: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8643/73ffcee27467876b1030ee347b3c2e625756.pdf
Algebraic Specialization of Generic Functions for Recursive Types: https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/msfp08.pdf
Generic Programming with Fixed Points for Mutually Recursive Datatypes: http://users.eecs.northwestern.edu/~clk800/rand-test-study/_gpwfpfmrd/gpwfpfmrd-2009-10-8-12-02-00.pdf
A Formal Comparison of Approaches to Datatype-Generic Programming: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1202.2920.pdf
Profunctor Optics: Modular Data Accessors: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.10857.pdf
Generic Point-free Lenses: https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/mpc10.pdf
Type-safe Two-level Data Transformation: http://www4.di.uminho.pt/~joost/publications/TypesafeTwolevelDataTransformation.pdf
Transformation of structure-shy programs with application to XPath queries and strategic functions https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/scp.pdf
Calculating with Lenses: Optimising Bidirectional Transformations: https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/pepm11.pdf

foggy silo
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Pdfs sourced:

warm anchor
worn ember
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how did you have that ready so quick

cosmic raft
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😉

foggy silo
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Spotted leaf where is your pdfs to support your work?

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How do we know if it is fast and well made 🥺

warm anchor
golden gust
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Our PDF is generally just a copy of the source code from before they introduced DFU

void void
golden gust
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and a page of all the DFU induced crap that they brought in

void void
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hopefully I'll understand dfu before hangar releases

worn ember
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All paper contributors should document their work and publish it. That way we have an ever increasing library of documentation blaze

golden gust
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#OneUpdateWithoutLogSpamPlz

worn ember
void void
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might not be enough

worthy geode
worn ember
foggy silo
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And here is a pdf on random blah naming conventions, fun and fun stuff

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(I love using bing because it gives you the answers on stack overflow on the search page)

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Who reads the reasoning…?

meager tusk
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Documentation? No.

worn ember
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i honestly wouldn't mind documenting stuff. Issue is that i'm too smoothbrained to ever do anything worth documenting kek

cosmic raft
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If you’re ever feeling bored, you can try to take over everything I do

foggy silo
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I hardly English 🥸

cosmic raft
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😉

worthy geode
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I haven't looked at brigadier tbh, im just worried it will be a bit too complicated for what most people need. I felt that way about adventure without MM as well

foggy silo
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it’s very nice to work with, supports stuff like redirects etc

golden gust
worn ember
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it has builders and stuff last time i checked, its fairly self explanatory

foggy silo
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Yep

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You build nodes

worn ember
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used it a bunch on forge

worthy geode
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that sounds good

magic river
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If it's too hard the old API is still there 😛

worn ember
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and if i can use it it cant be that complicated

magic river
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And you can always drop ACF or cloud on top

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The point is that brig is the layer that should be exposed, the rest of that should be things you build on top

cosmic raft
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Please not ACF

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Oof

foggy silo
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One thing I have not understood is what forks are in brig

worn ember
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kash plz port acf for sponge 8 and 9 tnx

magic river
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Normally you try to paper over internals in case they change out from under you but this isn't really internals, Dinnerbone designed this to be API

worn ember
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Am i the only one thats amazed how minecraft still runs at all?
Like the amount of stuff they added over the past decade

cosmic raft
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Still smaller than some enterprise apps

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:p

magic river
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A decade ago the jar was less than 1MB, wasn't it?

worn ember
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also true

magic river
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I think I looked this up like a month ago

worn ember
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damn thats less than my rtp plugin

magic river
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It was definitely less than 10MB, pretty sure it was less than 5MB, not sure past that

worthy geode
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1.8.9 .jar is just 8 MB

magic river
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I want to say in beta it was like 300KB

worn ember
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explain yourself

worthy geode
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I don't even know

worn ember
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sure you dont blaze

worthy geode
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it definitely is a bit of an outlier

magic river
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1.0 server jar was 728KB

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1.19-pre3 is 43.4MB

worthy geode
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thats surprising, 1.18 is just 19 MB

magic river
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1.18 is 44.4MB

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What are you looking at?

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The client?

worthy geode
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ah yes

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I skipped the "server" kekw

magic river
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Client doesn't have any of the dependencies, it relies on the launcher to get them

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Although that means the client has 19MB of stuff without dependencies? I guess that's mostly assets

worthy geode
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textures are just 2 MB, hmm

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which also means textures are smaller than structures, lol

magic river
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Client should be the server plus the input handling, window management, sound playback, renderer, and all the assets

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textures are tiny, they're 16x16

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The JSON models the textures go on top of are probably larger 😄

worthy geode
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close but not quite

magic river
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Well, there are fewer models I suppose

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Most blocks share one

worthy geode
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for some reason the hoglin_stable structure, part of the nether bastion, is really big. the whole thing is three times the data for an entire village

wet storm
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What do you think, does learning datapacks worth it? What are the cases when datapacks more useful than plugins except worldgen and loot tables?

worthy geode
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not really anything outside of worldgen and loottables

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you can do some pretty cool stuff with custom dimensions/worldgen tho

wet storm
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I am scared of mcfunction, is it just commands turned into a built in language? Is it even turing complete?

lament patio
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It's a list of MC commands, yeah

peak ginkgo
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its like command blocks

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but in text

unkempt drift
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advancements, recipes, loot tables, worldgen stuff is nice in datapacks

worn ember
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so i googled "java addon system" find a github link and go to wiki and there is non...
Me: who would make an addon library and not document it
Also me: sees its from citymonstret blaze

worthy geode
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there is this really nice java library for advancements (ofc it just creates the datapack files), so I never really touched datapacks for that

unkempt drift
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link?

worthy geode
unkempt drift
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oh yeah, seen this one

wet storm
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What do you think, how many and which API abilities the second earlier entrypoint in bukkit plugins gives? I made this in my paper fork, the second entrypoint initializes right after n.m.s.Main.main() fired, my main goal is making non-hacky Registries manipulation and proper lifecycles with it, but is there any other cool stuff I can implement with it?

worthy geode
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not loading any worlds, maybe?

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e.g. not always needing the main world in the .properties file

void void
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@twin gyro 🐓

jagged egret
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lol so android auto now has an annoying thing that pops up if you use android auto on your phone... blocked all DNS requests except to maps and spotify and now it works with no pop up 😎

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(the popup is about how they're discontinuing android auto)

ripe sphinx
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hi youtube why did you disable sorting "music" channel's videos? On a normal channel I can sort by newest, oldest, and most viewed, but if they're a music channel, no go...

jagged egret
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because Google loves to carefully craft ways to subtly frustrate users

ripe sphinx
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like ffs I had to go to socialblade...

warm anchor
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even if you pay for the permium you still get annoy agenda they try to push for the day

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disguised as suggestions phossure

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or those "celebrate XXX month" banner

jagged egret
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argh yes those are so annoying

ripe sphinx
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I had free 3mo premium, and I honestly prefer not paying and just using ublock

warm anchor
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not to forget on the OMG HAVE YOU CHECK OUT OUR MUSIC app

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that comes weekly

worthy geode
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good thing vanced still works

ripe sphinx
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^

warm anchor
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like half of my music list I made on YT doesnt work on the Youtube Music app

ripe sphinx
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I use spotify, but honestly they need to get their shit together too, like ffs the amount of times I've had stupid app bugs

worthy geode
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There fix for "the desktop app runs out of RAM when deleting more than a few hundred songs" was limiting selections to 100 songs, that annoyed me a bit.
But other than that I like Spotify, it works well for me

jagged egret
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i love that way of fixing software issues

ripe sphinx
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Spotify desktop's been ok for me, but dear fucking lord the mobile app, like if I open the spotify app on my watch, without fail it'll break in about 6h, and the only fix is force stopping

jagged egret
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"it's not a bug, it's a feature!"

ripe sphinx
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also my crap will randomly undownload

jagged egret
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I will say, something Spotify does that I absolutely love is being able to switch which device playback is on and control other devices

ripe sphinx
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I do like that

jagged egret
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It even goes to the point of using the Google Cast API on android to emulate a 'cast' device, so if I'm playing music on my laptop I can use the volume buttons on my hybrid watch to control it 😍

worthy geode
#

oh random deletion has happened to me before as well, especially great if its shortly before going on a holiday kekw

#

but since they did a major update to their android app like a year ago it seems to be fixed for me

warm anchor
#

Like look at this… works perfectly on YouTube app but on YouTube music song will be randomly blocked I guess due to agreement? phossure

worthy geode
ripe sphinx
#

yeah...I'm not a fan of cast, since we're an all-google house, anyone on any device, including the several google homes can see what I'm watching/listening to...

warm anchor
#

2 of them actually.

ripe sphinx
warm anchor
#

I guess whoever the copyright owner of the song does not agree to have it on YT music app? maybe the profit sharing is bit differnet but this happens quite a lot

#

which pretty much leave me no interest in trying the app

ripe sphinx
#

I wish they'd at least open my personal data vault and see I'm using spotify, and stop bloody pushing me YT Music ads, like unless you can do something major that doesn't, or spotify does something incredibly stupid, it ain't happening

worthy geode
#

good thing that pretty much all music is available on all platforms and its not like video streaming

ripe sphinx
#

yeah

warm anchor
#

A lot of absurd things I listen to aint on spotify PepeLa

worthy geode
#

no moon rune music on spotify paperOhhh

warm anchor
#

there is actually a good amount

#

its just half of my play list are "covers" done by non-original singers most of the time and are uploaded pre-spotify so they only exist on YT or niconico

worthy geode
#

I do have a bit of japanese music on Spotify, because their Discover Weekly randomly decides "You like music from <country>" every few weeks kekw

warm anchor
#

embrace your inner weeb paperPlease

void void
#

goddamn weebs

worthy geode
warm anchor
#

oh man if the new one is weird

#

old one is PepeLa

#

time to read up the 3 hour long theory craft video on YT @worthy geode and have hour long debate on how the story acually ends

#

the true evangelion fan experience

worthy geode
#

oh yes. can't even say if I liked the ending or not because confusion 😄

warm anchor
#

the new ending is different from the original and from the other few remakes

worthy geode
#

So I guess I have something else to watch then kekw

potent wedge
#

How is forcing server to kick player intended???

#

I swear the prison making scene

jagged egret
#

what

potent wedge
#

Crap it came out wrong

#

How is the thing that's forcing server to kick player intended

jagged egret
#

What thing

potent wedge
#

chunk banning

#

How is it intended

#

Is it a exploit or intended feature

jagged egret
#

i have no idea what you're talking about but based on the way you describe it, probably an explot

potent wedge
#

Someone is calling an exploit intended

ripe sphinx
#

iirc chunk banning is filling a chunk with stuff so a player connection gets overwhelmed and D/Ced

molten egret
#

would it be possible to change world gen by replacing the noise algorithm?

jagged egret
#

possible? yes

#

easy? no

potent wedge
#

Prison making people about to hack the game then call it not cheating

jagged egret
#

ok

potent wedge
#

Your suppost to say "who asked"

jagged egret
#

who asked

potent wedge
ashen cliff
#

I just wasted 5 hours on making MariaDB work on a scuffed setup... just for WHM to overwrite it on first login.

golden gust
#

guy I do stuff for was updating some of his VMs earlier, got this fun thing where like, we had pinned mysql 5.7 on the machine as some stuff required it

#

Jira thankfully updated to supporting mysql 8, thank god, but, gotta potentially deal with another VM which is hosting xenforo

#

but, XF1, which, doesn't support 8, so won't be able to update as-is because pinning; probs gonna cheat, idk if I wanna shove docker on that machine or just setup an isolated VM from the public network running a distro which actually has mysql 5.7 :L

lilac moon
#

What is Maria's last name

#

Database?

tropic flame
#

Carey

#

Maria Carey

vestal jasper
#

@warm anchor food wars best anime

#

3 episodes in and I'm still not sure what to actually think of it lmao

vernal moth
#

Mfw am collecting scooters in front of my door now

little frost
#

hey look it's bolt

golden gust
#

So, who alls planning to watch the winnie the pooh horror movie?

vernal moth
#

I didn't even pay 3 euros for a 20 min ride across the whole city

#

While I paid 5 euro yesterday on the tier for not even 10 minutes

#

Like wtf

#

But the tier is nicer, bigger wheels and suspension and shit

little frost
#

i remember when it was taxify

vernal moth
#

We got like 5 companies here

#

Lime, voi, dott, all the shit

magic river
#

Is that the same Bolt that just had massive layoffs?

vernal moth
#

Anyways, I gotta go sleep I wanna be in office at like 10, lmao

#

Hopefully am sober then

magic river
#

Ah, no, that bolt is a shopify competitor or something

spiral robin
warm anchor
silver nexus
#

Year 1 of high school is done... felt like maybe a month had gone by lol. I assume it only gets faster?

jagged egret
#

life only gets faster

#

in my head it feels like year 1 of high school was like... 3 years ago? But it's been ~7

warm anchor
#

I still woke up sweaty from time to time thinking I overslept for class notlikerie

jagged egret
#

:O i just discovered pattern variables

#

how long has this been a thing

golden gust
#

fairly recent, 17, maybe 16, is when it became stable? 🤷‍♂️

jagged egret
#

interesting

dusk drift
#

AWS is down for everyone right?

jagged egret
dusk drift
#

This site can’t be reached

thorny totem
#

works fine here

#

(their status page I mean)

dusk drift
#

Twitter is also fucked for me too

#

linkedin also fucked

#

Is the UK just fucked rn?

#

AWS, amazon, twitter and linkedin are down

#

cloudflareeee I think

#

Switched to Google DNS and still borked

#

oh, twitter loads now

#

okay it all works, cloudflare I guess is fucked

#

CF was borked the other week in CA too, seems to be happening a lot randomly

void void
#

Yuba

potent wedge
#

Lol down detector.california

ancient bolt
#

What the hell, 1.19 already??

#

I feel like we were on 1.17 just yesterday

thorny totem
#

ikr... imagine players being rekt'd by the warden... I bet a dev will write a "Dumb Warden" plugin

novel horizon
#

I like updates, but they could be less frequent...

#

^^

dusk drift
#

I'm torn on if I would prefer a bigger once a year update or 2 or maybe even 3 smaller ones

#

I think the Minecraft Live mob vote this year will be in the bedrock client

mental meadow
#

the warden is so damn OP

novel horizon
#

I guess that's the point, to be hard?

#

Like dragon is quite weak, isn't it

lavish compass
#

@warm anchor :AYAYARie:

#

reeeee

full rune
thorny totem
mental meadow
#

this is not a marketplace

wet storm
#

Do you have huge amounts of paper appearing out of nowhere on your desk? I am cleaning my desk, and god, I am not an office worker to have so many paper

viral hornet
#

Blank paper? no

#

Documents and shit I really need to sort through, yes

wet storm
#

Rate my desk...

oblique wadi
#

1.19 hasn’t been released yet

royal sand
#

Where’d the 1.19 channel go, there was one yesterday?

warm anchor
royal sand
#

Are you just messing with me lol

rare python
#

Literally right there?

#

Are you blind?

foggy veldt
#

:o optimization guide weeb man and Michael got promoted

#

Gratz!

quasi valley
#

optimization guide weeb man and closet weeb man*

warm anchor
thorny totem
mental meadow
#

Thanks lax I'll be forever in your debt

charred sleet
mental meadow
#

>fancy xlr mic with shock mount
>plugs it into monitor

wet storm
#

I use samsung smart fridge aka sensor monoblock

#

that's why I plug micro into monitor, cuz it is also a computer

warm anchor
#

Looks great. Could use more leg room though AYAYARie

smoky cloud
mental meadow
#

Discord Cache is always fun

rare python
mental meadow
#

Yes, discord often caches stuff like channel lists and sometimes it just doesn't get updates

#

because discord, as we all know, if bug free

rare python
#

Yes, screensharing not working on wayland sense the beginning of time is intended and is a feature!

#

Seriously though, I wanna switch to wayland but that is the only thing stopping me.

mental meadow
#

thats on wayland though, not really discords fault. but there are good workarounds to get it working on wayland

rare python
#

No. Discord literally can not screenshare on wayland.

wet storm
#

🥴 I live 1 year (or less?) without full screen sharing in discord somehow... I am too lazy to fix it by myself

twin lagoon
#

discord can screenshare on wayland

#

just to some degree

rare python
#

It has never worked when I tried it

twin lagoon
#

skill issue

rare python
#

Works perfectly on X11

mental meadow
#

Wayland, by design, blocks programs seeing the content of other programs

rare python
#

I know.

#

Great for security... until it isn't great for usability.

mental meadow
#

yeah, but there are good guides on getting it to work

#

same issue with every other screensharing tool btw

rare python
#

In my experience it just does not work at all, if someone knows how to get it to work, send me a link or something.

#

Although it has been like 6 months since I tried.

#

Maybe things have changed? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mental meadow
rare python
#

Does that mean I need to use discord in a web browser

#

Ew

rancid void
#

Friend created a new channel on his DC, it's there on PC but not mobile 🤔

rancid void
#

uh

#

Discord did an oopsie ig

mental meadow
#

ctrl + r

rancid void
#

on mobile, not even restarting works

mental meadow
#

force stop + clear cache

rancid void
#

iOS.
I mean it works for me but I don't use the latest version because the UI tweak I use (JB) stopped working..

mental meadow
#

iOS 🤡

rancid void
#

2022 and we still judging people's OS

rare python
rare python
#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ashen cliff
mental meadow
#

:'D

warm anchor
#

I mean I am on iOS and it shows to me

red timber
#

discord can share xwayland programs just fine

#

but not any of the wayland-native ones

rare python
#

You can force it to use wayland

red timber
#

you can now?

rancid void
rare python
rare python
rancid void
#

I tried every method I read online with no success

rare python
rancid void
#

Maybe if they stopped using an electron fork that is 2000+ commits behind master...

red timber
#

guess i'll give it a shot once my steam deck arrives

mental meadow
rare python
#

1.19 wHeN?

rancid void
red timber
rare python
#

I nEeD iT fOr My SeRvEr!!!!1!!!1!

rare python
warm anchor
rare python
#

You can force discord to run on a modern electron version

rancid void
#

yes but no the point

rare python
#

Well yes there is because then it works on wayland properly

rancid void
primal kraken
#

Lmao what

#

Current version is 19.0.1, assuming I’m looking at the right thing

#

Thanks discord

ashen cliff
#

Amazing.

#

_They just have 2k videos. kekwhyper _

radiant oriole
#

Well that’s one way to do it

cosmic raft
ashen cliff
#

Damn.

vernal moth
#

Can we talk about how awesome my energy provider is?

#

They always send letters with a tldr, lmao

#

Plus they dropped the prices

warm anchor
#

probably wnana remove any PI lol

vernal moth
#

Cropping is hard

#

But basically the first 4 things are the tldr, lol

#

And then 3 pages of letter follow

#

The cert is pink!

woven python
#

would any intellij wizards here know why my intellij is blind? :/

golden gust
#

flush caches and restart?

woven python
#

I did, you mean the invalidate cache menu option?

golden gust
#

does it build outside of IJ?

woven python
#

yes

golden gust
#

if the cache/state borked, yea

woven python
#

theres a response object that has an alias field

#

and if I manually type "response.alias"

#

and buid

#

it works fine

#

but I dont get any autocomplete because intellij thinks theres an error

#

very painful to use generated code with no auto complete lol

#

should I check any other options?

golden gust
#

no need generally

woven python
#

I did it yesterday and still it thinks theres an error

golden gust
#

try latest stable IDE build/latest EAP

#

failing that, god knows, if the things outta wack it's either down to the project or down to the IDE

woven python
#

yep I updated last night and same thing

#

I tried some other projects I found on github that were trying to do the same thing as me, and I get the same issue

#

so its most likely IDE

#

this is what the help text looks like when I tried to use most code from the generated source

#

everything has error

golden gust
#

Okay, applying some IQ points here

#

if the IDE is derping either there is an issue with the project, which, you seem to have ruled out

#

or, an issue with the IDE

#

if there is an issue with the IDE peddling around is pointless, go check JBs issue tracker/report it if needed

woven python
#

wait I do see this in one of the files

#

which is in the LightningOuterClass.java

golden gust
#

Well, there you potentially go

woven python
#

is it safe to up that limit? LOL

#

my computer going to go to space?

golden gust
#

eats more resources and time

woven python
#

I might try to use the lite versions of grpc and protobuf and see if that makes the files simpler

golden gust
#

I mean, that may more scream towards how much crap you're tryna shove into a singular thing

woven python
#

thats protobuf for you

#

lmao using the lite version did not change the file size at all

#

time to rev up the processor
idea.max.intellisense.filesize=999999

#

holy shit thats insane how much slower the editor is now. I guess Ill have to denotate more ram

#

but huzzah!

golden gust
#

lol

warm anchor
#

roasted

void void
#

it is hideous

#

why would anyone buy this

#

or well, 'buy'

vernal moth
#

Yo wtf

#

Easily 200 people on bikes with loud music and stuff

twin lagoon
#

looks like amsterdam on a normal weekday

warm anchor
#

Mini that’s called outside

wet storm
#

another day in saint petersburg

warm anchor
#

Pov gas price reach 20 euro

void void
vernal moth
#

It's some kinda demonstrate

vernal moth
mental meadow
vernal moth
#

Heh, cool

ashen cliff
#

Thank you Youtube.

ripe sphinx
#

yeah I'm not a fan of that...

vernal moth
#

Don't need to use it then

mental meadow
#

It's like Sponsorblock Lite

#

perfect

vernal moth
#

I personally find it really nice that YouTube continues to ~innovate~ steal features from porn sites

wet storm
#

and twitch...

vernal moth
#

Wait, twitch has features?

ashen cliff
#

Well, at least the double tap to skip forward a bit was their idea.

mental meadow
#

was it? I think VLC had that first

ripe sphinx
#

what even does the y axis of the little graph represent? Views? Skips? Times people hit like? Random.nextInt()?

ashen cliff
vernal moth
warm anchor
mental meadow
vernal moth
#

YouTube had them forever but only showed them to the authors

#

It's the viewer retention graph

ripe sphinx
#

oh ok so they're just exposing that graph, gotcha

vernal moth
#

Cause it's useful for everyone, porn sites knew that for a decade now

warm anchor
#

Wouldn’t that also expose the amount of people skips in-video sponsor segment PepeLa

mental meadow
#

yes

#

Sponsorblock Lite

warm anchor
#

Would be interesting to see

golden gust
#

10/10

warm anchor
#

I guess those deals are probably done by click through anyway

ashen cliff
#

That's also new to me. kekwhyper

wet storm
# vernal moth Wait, twitch has features?

I mean, generally, the whole "youtube gaming" project and youtube streaming is a poor copy of twitch, and sometimes yt announces "innovative" features after milliard years of their existence in twitch

warm anchor
tropic flame
#

ironically I'd probably rather stream on YouTube than on Twitch

ripe sphinx
#

eh be that as it may, I still vastly prefer YT to twitch for watching streams

warm anchor
#

YouTube does not gate quality or basic feature behind partners

#

Which is a huge plus to most people

tropic flame
#
  • you have to put up with less bullshit rules
ashen cliff
warm anchor
#

They both have pro and cons

tropic flame
#

i know someone who regularly streams on twitch and they streamed on YouTube exceptionally one day just to play yandere simulator kekw

#

because I guess twitch won't allow it

warm anchor
#

And YT is definitely doing ok

wet storm
#

I don't think twitch has so bullshit rules, also twitch has less copyright mess

warm anchor
#

Just look at socialblade superchat rierunrunrun

ashen cliff
warm anchor
tropic flame
#

meanwhile on YouTube the artist just monetizes that part of the video for them and it's all okay for you

warm anchor
#

lol

twin lagoon
#

weebs

void void
#

what is the best proxy software? (premium)

warm anchor
#

@twin lagoon impressive endurance weeb has

twin lagoon
void void
#

velocity is free

#

i need a paid proxy software

warm anchor
#

so?

twin lagoon
#

there's nothing better out there

void void
#

i need something like aegis or flamecoord

twin lagoon
#

no

#

if you want your layer 7 bot protection shit just use tcpshield or another minecraft ddos mitigation provider

worthy geode
#

why would you want to pay money for something when there is a better free alternative lol

warm anchor
#

Man Minecaft is best place to make money from uninformed people... in other field people would try their best to not pay and here you have someone insist of paying money when free one is better in almost every way...

twin lagoon
#

the paid proxy forks out there all just consist out of shit-tier stolen code

wet storm
#

It'll be a better idea to spent money on developers or admins which will enhance, monitor and configure your proxy rather than on a doubtful paid proxy forks imo...

warm anchor
#

or building your community in general, infra is just a small % of the total cost of running a successful server

void void
vernal moth
twin lagoon
#

you can paypal me $20 for a paid version of velocity

vernal moth
#

It's paid for by volunteers and donations

void void
#

i need to pay for velocity?

twin lagoon
#

no

vernal moth
#

It's premium quality without the premium price tag

void void
#

velocity can stop bot attacks?

warm anchor
void void
#

ok

#

i can pay

twin lagoon
#

my brother in christ you do not need to pay for velocity

golden gust
#

velocity is a free proxy solution built from the ground up to be more robust

vernal moth
#

Is this a language barrier or just plain stupidity?

void void
#

what?

golden gust
#

paid waterfall forks generally just do stuff over the top of waterfall to try to patch around the mess without actually fixing the issues in waterfall

magic river
golden gust
#

if you want to throw cash into something, you'd be better off paying for a service like TCPShield who do app layer filtering before stuff even connects to your server, etc

magic river
#

lol, people were telling work they were looking for a new job because they didn't want to deal with the commute to the office again

#

Got an email today saying most people will be able to stay 100% WFH if they want to

#

They're also getting rid of their old building, they just had a new one built and were planning to use both but now they won't need all that space

warm anchor
#

annnnd that's exactly why NYC is empty PepeLa

#

A lot of things in the city are built on the idea of people moving a large distance to a workplace and everything that supports it (estates, restaurants, maintenance workers)
Would be interesting to see how the city evolves in the coming years!

round grove
#

Could there be a way to run paper on the minecraft singleplayer integrated server?

magic river
#

No

#

Like, could someone build that? Sure. Has anyone? No. Would it be easy? No.

vernal moth
#

Would it make any sense to do so? No

worthy geode
#

Im pretty sure there was a mod at some point that did this

lavish compass
#

Y'all should just make your own L7 filter using BPF

magic river
#

There is literally a whole industry around writing those BPF programs

#

But yeah I'll just whip something up real quick

merry talon
#

You got yourself into that situation

#

Put your ego aside and do what needs to be done

#

also <@&748618676189528155> wtf is this shit

twin lagoon
#

!warn 695257025013219358 let's not share literal shit in general

thorny flickerBOT
#

:raised_hands: Warned Homyachokk#5097 (let's not share literal shit in general) [1 total infraction] -- Michael#9600.

merry talon
#

wait since when is michael mods

vagrant marlin
#

has eternity managed to mod anything yet?

#

michael's always on the job

twin lagoon
#

eternity is a weeb

vagrant marlin
#

too busy watching big booba 2d animation

twin lagoon
#

true

merry talon
#

eternity doesn't moderate eternity gets moderated

twin lagoon
#

T R U E

vagrant marlin
#

why does this server seem more like 1.8 support server every day?

#

1.8 support server 🤤

merry talon
#

ok so don't share nutella in a toilet meant to look like shit in general

wet storm
#

we all believe ||/s||

twin lagoon
#

i don't care if it's nutella, peanut butter, black tar heroin or some other substance

#

it looks like shit

#

we don't post shit

vagrant marlin
#

💩

merry talon
#

other than weeb shit

twin lagoon
#

no weebery either

merry talon
#

apparently

vagrant marlin
#

especially not weeb shit

twin lagoon
worthy geode
#

is this the weekly bad troll? kekw

vagrant marlin
#

do those come up only weekly?

#

lucky

worthy geode
#

the ones that are actually funny only come up every few years :/

golden gust
#

I modded a forum like, late 2000s

worthy geode
#

cat old

wet storm
#

old

merry talon
#

hey spot talks more often than that

golden gust
#

the trollery back then was 10/10 compared to the shit these days

warm anchor
#

both of those ping happens when I am napping riesad

merry talon
#

momegaLULderator

warm anchor
#

I can just ban @vagrant marlin Pepelove

vagrant marlin
#

i could also ban you from my minecraft server

#

and you dont want that

warm anchor
cunning raft
vagrant marlin
#

ok shut

worthy geode
#

ah ban evasion

#

goodbye belarusian man

vagrant marlin
#

why should we care that you are belarusian

void void
#

@warm anchor want a first ban?

#

don't snipe it michael

twin lagoon
#

yoink

vagrant marlin
#

unfortunate

cunning raft
twin lagoon
#

wasn't even mine

#

jroy did the funny

warm anchor
#

omg do I have to camp general now for a ban phossure

vagrant marlin
#

yes

warm anchor
#

I can wait until 1.19 release Trollge

worthy geode
#

yes. no napping allowed

wet storm
#

totally

vagrant marlin
#

camp #adorable-pets in case a dog is posted

#

perm ban

warm anchor
#

Just add "ETA" to community disallowed word list Trollge

vagrant marlin
#

you wouldnt mind camping that chat, ye?

warm anchor
#

I will be honest with you I only ever check #paper-help or here lol

vagrant marlin
#

so you dont see the shitty looking mcdonalds images in #food? unfortunate

worthy geode
#

I have all the social channels muted except for the kitties because cuuute

craggy hamlet
#

hey guys i have a question

warm anchor
twin lagoon
#

what is your question

vagrant marlin
#

let me eat some chicken to pay respects

warm anchor
#

For real man, that's like the cheap meat in the US PepeLa now its not

vagrant marlin
#

what is cheap now

#

cardboard should be quite good

worthy geode
#

Vegas sounds like its generally pretty expensive tho

vagrant marlin
warm anchor
#

gas is 1 whole dollar more than my home state yeah but not California crazy yet

craggy hamlet
#

is it possible to make plugin that if you kill someone it drop his head and if you have 8 heads of the same person you can craft a heart?

worthy geode
#

possible? sure

#

already existing? likely not

vagrant marlin
#

how do you craft a heart

#

are you talking about lifesteal?

warm anchor
#

first part, Machine Maker already have one for Vanilla tweak, 2nd part probably not exactly that

worthy geode
#

just retexture something to be a heart I guess

warm anchor
#

you will probably just need to make new crafting recipe and add that heart thing with playerhead.

craggy hamlet
#

i need it so bad

craggy hamlet
craggy hamlet
warm anchor
worn ember
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ig 0xFFFFFF was too ez

magic river
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You're not alpha enough to know why they needed an extra byte

turbid oar
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@warm anchor Holy gg for mod

spare venture
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eternity is one of them now

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rip

turbid oar
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I wish I didn't wake up at 3pm 🥺

golden gust
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:s/at 3pm//

warm anchor
wet storm
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It's 3 am, intellij light theme lights my whole room and I don't need to turn on lights to see other things, it's helpful 😄

spare venture
warm anchor
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TRUE

turbid oar
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wait vtuber = youtuber?

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@warm anchor

wet storm
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Vtuber = weeb youtuber

golden gust
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virtual youtuber

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i.e. Gura

spare venture
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it’s those people that have anime people instead of their real faces on a webcam

turbid oar
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oh god

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lmfao

spare venture
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very odd and creepy

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there’s some dude that’s a ferret

golden gust
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You're just jelly more people love a shark than you

warm anchor
spare venture
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that’s not a shark, that’s an abomination

turbid oar
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ferret? you mean furry?

golden gust
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Then again, party, to me

spare venture
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anime is the downfall of civilizations, it’s the great filter

golden gust
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You're a lumberjack of a man

wet storm
turbid oar
spare venture
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damn if you stop watching it after 30 seconds it’s not bad

warm anchor
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Take a look

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Lol

spare venture
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but i think that the reason why we haven’t seen any spacefaring civilizations is because once they develop anime, they destroy themselves from within

spare venture
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my man doc is behind 50 weebs in income 😂

turbid oar
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Good thing I am not a anime fan kekw

warm anchor
spare venture
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that is really upsetting

golden gust
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culture yea

spare venture
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the fabric of society is unraveling in front of us

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i think the ferret guy is cool though

golden gust
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Ngl, I did get wrapped up into the heard trial this week thanks to the guy I do stuff for talking about it

spare venture
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i am fine with the occasional funny tiktok from it. no more from me

warm anchor
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Barty is getting old

spare venture
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i know 😦

spare venture
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about to have my quarter life crisis

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lmao that is not what i meant. hold on

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i keep seeing him on tiktok, he’s like a vtuber but it’s a little groundhog

worthy geode
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im more surprised people actually watch streams on YT oO

golden gust
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I mean, YT streams work, especially as many of the channels which do stream will have clips from their content

turbid oar
golden gust
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So, you can either tune into a multi-hour stream or watch a bunch of small segments which you care about (and then get wrapped into the livestreams)

worthy geode
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but a lot of twitch streamers also put clips on YT.
maybe its just the UI and content being much harder to find on YT than on twitch, but YT streaming always seemed kinda unpopular to me

warm anchor
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JP Vtuber is the proof YT works

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It’s just westerner is more used to twitch

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Doesn’t meant twitch is better in anyway

golden gust
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twitch just generally has the people looking for that

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am not sure twitch really offers too much over what most people care about other than it just being the place

worthy geode
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Its just when I click on the "Live" category on my YT frontpage, I get stuff like a livecam of the rhine valley with 3 viewers kekw
While twitch frontpage gives me clear categories, popular streamers etc

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Just typical Google messing up UI I guess

golden gust
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Yea, but we're in a region where twitch rules for that

warm anchor
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Works fine for me for the stuff I watched on YT

golden gust
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if you wanna go see people playing games or ethottery in the west, you go on twitch

worthy geode
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and half of the popular streamers is still VTubers kekw

warm anchor
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Yes because it’s where all the JP ome streams

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They used to only do it in niconico and YT is their way to reach western weebs

golden gust
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Nothing will ever compete with the 2000's niconico experience

warm anchor
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I mean….

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Majority of the steamer are still alive

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As Vtuber..

golden gust
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I mean, stuff like the text flying across the video

worthy geode
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Twitch has that great addon were you can throw stuff at streamer's models kekw

golden gust
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somebody needs to bring that to YT, that would be awesome 😄

warm anchor
golden gust
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I mean, I just remember a lot of the like vocaloid stuff from back then, things triple baka and the sudden flood of a certain string across the screen

worthy geode
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there are people streaming themselves driving through the japanese countryside on niconico, thats the kind of content I can get into paperUwU

dusk drift
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Is the hard coded 2 second wait when switching worlds still on 1.19?

unkempt drift
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I didn’t know that was a thing

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Is that a client thing?

magic river
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kneny made a mod to get rid of it