general

[warm anchor]

at the farm type /paper playermobcaps show output

also open F3 menu to ensure you are in fortress biome

[fallen acorn]

ah, i guess its the mob cap, weird how nothing changed with the farm but the rates went to shit randomly

[wispy blade]

@little frost best emilia!!!!!

[little frost]

wh

[wispy blade]

hello

[warm anchor]

light changed that was the issue

but if you spawn proof them nicely it should start working again.

[fallen acorn]

Yep, working on that now

[warm anchor]

though there is report of mob spawnnig issue still so if you think it is still broken, take the farm to mojang's server jar and test

[left swift]

I ain't getting a twitch recap this year

trash website

if u weren't subbed to their .marketing lists they dknt send out the recap

god how am I supposed to show pokimane I'm her #1 fan now

[void void]

Did PaperMC update Log4J to 2.16.0?

[worn crest]

The log4j exploit got fixed

[void void]

I know but 2.16.0 entirely removes the functuonality that caused Log4J exploit, preventing any future exploits of it.

[coarse lily]

If you read the website: https://papermc.io/downloads

You will see that log4j was bumped to 2.16 in 1.18.1 and 1.17.1

So: yes.

[left swift]

paper actually unblocked it

and brought back zero tick pistons

[void void]

I love you 💖

[coarse lily]

I was not programmed for love.

[void void]

😔

[wispy blade]

best ocelotpotpie

mmmmmm Masayoshi Takanaka guitar sound

"First Wikipedia page auctioned off"

what

[potent fossil]

?

[void void]

How do I delete log4j from minecraft since mojang isn't

[hexed dragon]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-uproar-over-jimmy-wales-decision-to-auction-the-birth-of-wikipedia-as-an-nft/ar-AARDPp8

[left swift]

tf

msn.com lmao

I havent seen that url in literal years

maybe a decade

[coarse lily]

Paper is using a version of log4j that isn't exploited.

So update to the latest 1.18.1 or 1.17.1 Paper build

[void void]

yeah but how do I delete it from my minecraft

[coarse lily]

You don't.

[void void]

well then screw mojang im gonna play a different game

[coarse lily]

You could write your own client I guess but that's about it.

[swift root]

[coarse lily]

Alright.

[swift root]

@void void Mojang fixed the exploit on their end too.

[left swift]

dont screw mojang thats illegal

[void void]

they didn't fix new one

[swift root]

all clients 1.7+ are fixed

which new one

[void void]

it still uses log4j 2.15.0

https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2021-45046

[left swift]

wtf you're using xmpp?

[void void]

maybe

[coarse lily]

The client isn't impacted by CVE-2021-45046

If you're using an updated client and a patched server you're fine.

[wispy blade]

not running latest

imagine

[void void]

then why did they private the issues talking about it on the minecraft issue tracker 🤔

[coarse lily]

No idea - I'm not Mojang.

[swift root]

Probably because they're all incorrect in some way or other? Maybe it's all a conspiracy to exploit your game...

[wispy blade]

ah yes we will keep reports of possible exploits public for the entire world to see!

[void void]

I doubt mojang has told any server owners about the issue ._.

[wispy blade]

oh, they have

yoh're just almost a week late to the party

[void void]

about the new one

[coarse lily]

Like I said, the client is patched and Paper is patched.

So update to the latest build and you're good to go.

[void void]

okay

[warm anchor]

ok

[median wing]

What the hell is that?

[warm anchor]

<@&748618676189528155> ^ spam bad one too

[coarse lily]

!ban 831038557774282772 Spam

[median wing]

No thanks

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned 𝓈𝓉𝓍𝓇𝒷𝑜𝓎#6086 (Spam) [1 total infraction] -- ocelotpotpie#5943.

[serene bolt]

ocelot too fast

[vernal moth]

Can people shut up about the new dum CVE please?

It's 3

I don't get out of bed for a 3

[coarse lily]

3 what.

[warm anchor]

turn off phone mini

[vernal moth]

Cvss

[coarse lily]

Oh yeah.

[warm anchor]

if you dont have phone, you dont get spammed

[vernal moth]

The score

[coarse lily]

I thought you meant 3AM.

[void void]

it would make me feel better if minecraft used log4j 2.16.0

[vernal moth]

A 3 is useless

So update it yourself

Mojang is on Christmas break and they deserve that

Mojang is aware, accessed the risk after we made them aware and came to the conclusion they aren't affected

[void void]

how do I update it myself?

[swift root]

You do not

[vernal moth]

Use a fabric workspace I guess and shade in the newer dep

But like, why

There are literally thousands of other CVEs in the software you use daily

[void void]

what is a fabric workspace?

[vernal moth]

With similar low scores

Ok just don't

[vernal moth]

No memes in #general

[coarse lily]

You want #gifs-and-memes

[wispy blade]

what the fuck someone called me from congo

[void void]

can someone tell me if paper has fixed the security vulnerability & if i should upgrade to paper 1.18.1?

[coarse lily]

Yes- read the pins in #paper-help

Make sure you're on the latest build.

[marble lark]

oh my god the discord mod meme became a reality lmaooo

[void void]

insert no memes in general gif here

[ashen cliff]

Is there a reason the legacy builds got updated, but the source didn't?

[plucky sparrow]

imo module fits the best

The OpenJDK page lists the following features as officially targeting JDK 18: a service provider interface, a simple web server, a vector API, code snippets, a reimplementation of core reflection, a UTF-8 charset, a second incubator of a foreign function and memory API, a second preview of pattern matching for switch statements, and the deprecation of finalization, which was the last addition.

I’m interested in the web server

[potent fossil]

you're definitely talking about modular architecture

vector API

[twin lagoon]

🥺

[edgy agate]

Module, plugin, library, vendor, extension blah blah blah.. I know there's some difference between them but I kinda use them interchangeably

[frank otter]

do java mixins just add functionality to classes without making a new or being the parent class?

a but like Rust #derive?

[wispy blade]

yes

they just add the functions in the mixed in class

[frank otter]

also then what is shading and what are shaded jars

[tropic flame]

shaded jars are jar files that include all their dependencies inside

[little saddle]

hi

[ivory holly]

here we go again, log4j has another vulnerability lmao

[void void]

Another?

Or are you talking about the second CVE

[little saddle]

hey?

[frank otter]

is that the cve that was created by the patch for the first one?

[magic river]

It wasn't though, people just found that in certain scenarios the fix was incomplete

MC isn't in one of those scenarios

[frank otter]

oh ok that makes sense

[magic river]

It's a real edge case kind of thing

[solid siren]

hi guys

u have any idea or plugin to make ender dragon harder or more exciting

[magic river]

Considering you can beat the dragon with snowballs and beds and no armor, probably not 😛

[silver nexus]

That’s why I’m so happy to have the warden lol

[worn ember]

they really need to update the dragon ai

[golden gust]

oh, yea

I can't wait for them to migrate it over to their brain system

[worn ember]

if they ever

[still turtle]

Paper 1.18.1 runs well

[warm anchor]

Let’s put villager brain for dragon

[ashen cliff]

Silverfish.

[golden gust]

Well, last time I worked with the ender dragon

I had it walking around like the guy I was doing the work for

i.e. ass backwards

[warm anchor]

[ashen cliff]

Change that to: I had it walking around like the guy I was doing..

[magic river]

The ender dragon has always been an odd one in MC, it was rather rushed although it probably would have been a hack job no matter what since that's how notch and to some extent video games do things

It's multiple entities because the animation system couldn't support the wings and head being independent, the portal out spawning depending on a global flag being set that happens for a single tick, the AI was different even back before they hired the professional AI guy to redo most of the others in 1.2, probably some stuff I forgot

iirc it got some custom packets too so it could be one entity but not

[warm anchor]

Imagine if dragon has a smarter ai

[foggy silo]

The brain api is quite cool, but like rn they just have the goal and brain system co existing.

It really lets you do some pretty cool stuff

Hopefully I can finish up my api and… eventually… make it into paper. 👀

[magic river]

Wait the brain stuff isn't the goal stuff?

I thought it was just Mojang's name for the goal selector

[wide chasm]

I thought brain was just a way to cram overly complex villager AI into one place and they accidentally added it to all entities

[foggy silo]

Yea so brain and goal is different

Brain has stuff like sensors, memories, behaviors and schedules.

[magic river]

Oh, is it a way to give more complex behavior to "idle" actions?

[foggy silo]

Yea

It’s used for piglins , hoglins, villagers, goats, axlotls, etc

[magic river]

Right, so it uses the goal selector to decide if they need to be running away, swimming to the surface, whatever, but then uses the brain as the default goal?

[foggy silo]

Not all entities tick their brain

They either use the goal or brain system, not both

[magic river]

Oh

[foggy silo]

Brain has their own type of “goal” system

Called actives

Activities

Which contain behaviors (which are basically goals)

[magic river]

Ok so they have 3 separate AI systems in the game

[spare venture]

all i know is every entity that uses their newest system is a fucking laggy nightmare

[foggy silo]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/6968

My PR let me understand how the brain system works, it may help to look

[spare venture]

axolotls and villagers in particular

[magic river]

Goals, brains, and ad hoc shotgunning of AI logic throughout the tick loop

Goals are also a laggy nightmare compared to the ad hoc solution

[spare venture]

when 1.17 first released every player had 10+ axolotls

[magic river]

Although Dinnerbone, me, and later on I think Aikar made a bunch of improvements there

[spare venture]

we had like 800 axolotls at any given point, used like 10mspt

[magic river]

On making the goal system itself suck less, some of the goals were/are still insanely expensive

[spare venture]

prob more than that, it was a while ago

[foggy silo]

But the nice thing is all activists and sensors are keyed

*Activities

[magic river]

The worst part is the ones with an expensive check for if they should run or should keep running

[spare venture]

haha all we did was limit players to having 2 axolotls per chunk and ticked their brains way less

[foggy silo]

yea….

[magic river]

I wanted to make the should run stuff event based, never got around to figuring out how to make that work

I think Lithium did though

So Fabric+Lithium probably has more efficient AI than Paper 😛

[foggy silo]

But if anyone does have feedback for the brain api… I’d rly appreciate it x)

[golden gust]

if it wasn't such a headache, Id be all for just rewriting all of the goals and shit

[foggy silo]

Goals sadly still have to be keyed by their classes

[golden gust]

Horror is that this is just yet another area where mojang over-engineered some system and now it's afflcting the wider codebase

[magic river]

I wonder if the brains stuff is something they came up with for Java or something the Bedrock folks did to make AI suck less and then the Java folks ported over for 1.14

[foggy silo]

Activities thankfully have their own key

[golden gust]

and, they even cut down the functionality of stuff in the long run :/

[magic river]

I'm assuming it was added in 1.14, that's the version that added pillagers and raids and such, right?

[foggy silo]

Yea

[worn ember]

they should just use nomi's brain, dumb enough to not affect tps but smart enough to shitpost

[magic river]

Wait so the sensors are Keyed but the goals are Class#getSimpleName()?

[foggy silo]

Yes iirc

At least in the api

Some sort of class name reflection stuff

[golden gust]

goals don't have a defined name for them

[foggy silo]

But activities, memories and sensors are keyed

[golden gust]

so we basically generate them from the class names

[magic river]

I can't remember if getSimpleName was actually insanely expensive or if that was an artifact of attaching a debugger

[foggy silo]

Yea

[golden gust]

getSimple I think was the cached one?

[foggy silo]

My api doesn’t expose individual behaviors, only things that can be keyed

[magic river]

You'd hope it gets cached since it's getName().split('.')[-1] (put that in valid Java, whatever)

[plucky sparrow]

what brain

She no have brain

[golden gust]

There was like, 3 methods to get the class name or something

[foggy silo]

She does have a brain

Just doesn’t tick it…..

[golden gust]

1 of them was cached

and I do not remember properly which one

[plucky sparrow]

No brain

[magic river]

iirc when I was first looking at goals getSimpleName() was the #1 use of CPU time in the goal selector

[plucky sparrow]

Ask @wispy blade

[magic river]

I can't remember if that ended up being a false positive due to debugger fuckery or if we patched it out

[foggy silo]

But yea I’d love feedback on the api since it’s kinda the biggest pr I’ve worked on

All my contributions have pretty much just been entity api

[magic river]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17369304/why-is-class-getsimplename-not-cached

Oh they changed it in 11

So this used to suck ass but everyone was doing it anyway so they made it only suck half ass

[golden gust]

f u n

Yea, I remember that being a fun trap as one was cached, the others where slow as fuck, and few remember which is which

[magic river]

https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8187123

None of them were cached when I last worked on this stuff 😛

One of them was I guess kind of cached since it was inherent

[wispy blade]

:c

[foggy silo]

@wispy blade hi Naomi!!

[wispy blade]

i am paining on asio.

[foggy silo]

🤔

[wispy blade]

cries about wanting pthread
gives it pthread
cries about wanting pthread

[foggy silo]

I am uncultured, fill in.

[wispy blade]

networking lib

[foggy silo]

Ahhh

[worn ember]

should i make a web interface to create arena's for my minigame? I feel like the kiddo's aren't gonna understand how to use 3 commands

[wispy blade]

make a gui

or cui

[worn ember]

ui's in mc are so annoying

[foggy veldt]

Chests are all the rage these days

[worn ember]

i'd rather shoot myself than make a chest gui

[void void]

use stef's IF

[worn ember]

i have plenty of times before

still sucks though

[plucky sparrow]

I have been using this gui thing that showed up on my recommended in GitHub called triumph gui

10/10

[wispy blade]

chat component gui bro.

[plucky sparrow]

Makes creating guis very easy

[foggy veldt]

I wonder if Mojang will add a way for server to make actual GUI any time soon

[worn ember]

no

[void void]

https://react-facet.mojang.com/ I mean... 👀

[worn ember]

react

[magic river]

wat

[foggy veldt]

All roads leads to js

[worn ember]

i wouldve thought they wouldve done it in .net

[magic river]

This is basically the thing I was supposed to write for them back in like 2013

[worn ember]

since MS

[void void]

Bedrock is already moving towards this 👀

[magic river]

Well, except mine was a pure Java thing

[plucky sparrow]

https://github.com/TriumphTeam/triumph-gui this

[worn ember]

mc webbrowser wen

[foggy veldt]

Amouranth worked at mojang?

[magic river]

I had a contract that failed pretty much right away and they didn't pay me for

[worn ember]

might help if there was an actual wiki

oh theres a link

mb

[plucky sparrow]

there is

blind fuck

[worn ember]

imagine not using gh wiki

smh

[magic river]

The scope of the project changed either as we were agreeing on the contract or right after

It ended up being me, Riking, and UltraMoogleMan were supposed to rewrite the entire client from scratch

[foggy veldt]

Worked out for the best, the hot tub streams are popping off

[magic river]

Riking wrote some input handling, I started designing a UI system that could be controlled/modified from the server, and UMM started on the renderer

I ended up having to help UMM get the renderer to actually draw things and then him and Grum spent a lot of time on generating texture atlases from loose image files and then the contract was dropped, UMM got hired, and I didn't get paid

Yeah, this is where the resource pack stuff came from

I was the only one that didn't have any code written to give to them, I just had some notes, some libraries I was trying to repurpose, and some ideas I hadn't written down

Dunno if Riking got paid or not, I don't think so

Whole thing only lasted like 2-3 months

[rare hollow]

Your order:

1 x Dedicated Root Server SB29
* Intel Core i7-2600
* 2x HDD SATA 3,0 TB
* 4x RAM 8192 MB DDR3
* Location: FSN1
* Rescue system (English)
* 1 x Primary IPv4

finally hetzner registered my order

now to install papermc

[magic river]

I think it was 2 months

[worn ember]

https://github.com/NickAcPT/Lithium-Spigot i had a friend work on this for a while

[magic river]

Most of the first was spent arguing over whether or not we should actually be trying to do a full rewrite

[ashen nacelle]

hello everyone

[magic river]

Grum was dead set on a rewrite being needed though

[golden gust]

NivkAC

[foggy veldt]

With a 3 man team?

[magic river]

Unfortunate name

[worn ember]

ur favorite

[magic river]

Well, the original was mostly made by one dude

[worn ember]

pretty sure this existed before lithium

[golden gust]

long before

This was back in the CV community days

[worn ember]

yup

[golden gust]

fun place

until, well, pim pim'd it

[worn ember]

dead place

[foggy veldt]

True, I don’t think I could fathom the work that would go into a full rewrite tho

[worn ember]

it couldve been the programming hangout of spigot/paper devs but yeah

[golden gust]

I will never understand why people take strong communities

[magic river]

But yeah, I suspect now they'll go the somewhat lazy route of basically drawing a CEF overlay on top of the game and using react for the UI

[golden gust]

and then turn them into help places to try to take advantage of the communities by basically removing the channels where the communities actually talk in favour of the over-spread help channels

[magic river]

When people tried to use Qt as a UI framework for games they learned it meant they couldn't get 120 fps

I suspect CEF is going to be a similar experience

[golden gust]

It's really a sad world of pros and cons

[magic river]

Game UI is really trivial compared to application stuff

[foggy veldt]

I remember spout, “the flow of endless possibilities”

[worn ember]

well i didnt mind the help channels, but it was over done a bit

[magic river]

But I suppose if they use CEF for it they get accessibility almost for free

[golden gust]

and, for all the cons of cef, "hey, the server can send a html web page over and we can just render it", it's like, pretty hard to find a easier to implement and get people to use thing

[plucky sparrow]

this would actually be a very cool feature if it was integrated into optifine for example

so then a decent % of people would at least have it "installed"

[worn ember]

yeah, its only useless cuz it requires a client mod

[magic river]

I hope they don't make "send random HTML/JS" the way to do UI stuff

[golden gust]

Amaranth.

[magic river]

I was hoping for a bespoke protocol still and just using this stuff behind the scenes

Yeah, I know

[golden gust]

This is the 21st century.

JS GO BRRRR

[worn ember]

JS is dead long live WASM

All my homies hate JS

[magic river]

bedrock in wasm is probably more efficient than java edition

[foggy veldt]

Wasm to js transpiler

[magic river]

We can just move the whole game in to a JS engine

[worn ember]

you dont even need to

you can just transpile it

[magic river]

Java->WASM is sadness

[golden gust]

it's simple

we compile the JVM to wasm

[worn ember]

thats what blazor does basically, convert C# to wasm

can be done for any lang really

[magic river]

That is basically what Java->WASM does cat

Well, I guess it's more similar to native-image?

But it parses bytecode still

[worn ember]

that seems kinda pointless then?

[magic river]

https://teavm.org/

I guess this one doesn't parse bytecode at runtime?

I could have sworn it did or could

I thought there was one that was a minimal "JIT" that was just converting Java bytecode to wasm bytecode as quickly as possible (with all the bloat that requires to insert GC hooks and blah blah blah) and then implementing enough runtime for hello world

[foggy veldt]

Well you guys have fun with your wasms and your rusts I’m going to learn every last line of code in crystal so I can be that one guy in c lang servers that can tell you all the compiler flags off the top of their head

[magic river]

This one seems to add that bloat ahead of time and ship pure wasm

[worn ember]

Why are annotation processors such an obscure thing in java? You literally can't find jack shit about them lol

[magic river]

compiler plugins are scary PL research nonsense real programmers don't have time for

...also I think the API for them either is or was unstable

And it was definitely buggy

[worn ember]

i think it took me like 5h to figure out how to make maven run the processor lol

[foggy veldt]

I just run compile task

[wispy blade]

gradle shadowJar ez

[worn ember]

wat

[magic river]

You realize that's what it is, right?

It's an arbitrary extension to the language that requires a compiler plugin to work

That plugin can do any code generation it wants to do

[golden gust]

bearing in mind the limitations of APs too

e.g. can't mutate existing classes without going lombok levels of stupid

[magic river]

Oh, am I thinking of the ecj version?

[golden gust]

(note: this is basically part of why lombok breaks almost every few dozen java releases)

[worn ember]

https://github.com/DarkEyeDragon/RandomTeleport/blob/master/Common/src/main/java/me/darkeyedragon/randomtp/common/annotationprocessor/CommandAnnotationProcessor.java
feast your eyes

[golden gust]

not to mention, most devs generally err away from magical compile time shit for the most part

[waxen panther]

acf

[foggy veldt]

TLDR doesn’t acf already have one

[worn ember]

im in the process of converting to cloud but man is that a lot of work lul

[golden gust]

I maintain a few year old fork of essentials

[waxen panther]

why

[golden gust]

Did you know that essentials creates a new instance of the Command classes each time they're called?

[foggy veldt]

Oh it’s unfinished

[golden gust]

Well, EssX fixed that

server forked it years ago, been maintained since

[worn ember]

essentials did a lot of dumb shit

[waxen panther]

it’s still based on the commands class name tho

[golden gust]

theres another plugin I maintain that I kinda wanna switch over towards using cloud or something for

[worn ember]

essentialsX code base is a lot nicer though

[golden gust]

that project just ripped essentials command system over :L

[magic river]

Ooh, maybe they're just using react and not react-dom

I forgot that was an option

Like react-native

[worn ember]

isn't cloud like mostly functional programming?

[magic river]

You can write a custom renderer plugin for react

[waxen panther]

cloud supports annotations too

I hate them but…. They’re there

[worn ember]

yeah but you still need to initialize everything

[waxen panther]

wat

[magic river]

react-dom is all of HTML, react-native is a common subset of simple widgets that work everywhere

[ashen nacelle]

remember the plugin Explosive Swearing?

[worn ember]

command handlers and stuff

[floral horizon]

how many more days till we have a stable 1.18.1?

[worn ember]

69

[foggy veldt]

More than 0

[magic river]

They could either do a react-native backend for Minecraft's renderer or just make a new similar thing that is simpler and just for MC

[hearty spear]

420

[waxen panther]

command handlers are the annotated methods body

[floral horizon]

https://c.tenor.com/LXYfOUBWnxYAAAAM/ronaldo-walking-ronaldo.gif

[worn ember]

guess i got some more reading to do

i just like the annotations cuz it makes it easier to differentiate between commands

[waxen panther]

I like using the builder and then doing method references for the handlers

[magic river]

In fact react-facet seems to work rather poorly with DOM components

[worn ember]

thank you discord, very cool

[wispy blade]

wow

[golden gust]

itt: DED shows up and breaks shit

[worn ember]

no 👏 more 👏 mods 👏

[foggy veldt]

The development team quit and started a new fork due to creative differences

[neat oyster]

eee got 4 months discord nitro from friend

pog

[plucky sparrow]

no more flurry?

[worn ember]

i think the issue i have with cloud is that i need to convert from using ACF rather than build it from the ground up

[waxen panther]

Well yea, they’re two very different libraries

[worn ember]

mhm, i just so used to acf hah

[waxen panther]

Ye I understand, all my stuff used acf before cloud was released

[worn ember]

might just rip out the whole command system and try again

i like its simplicity for simple plugins but for advanced stuff it tends to break on me

that might just be me though

[foggy veldt]

Just shift + delete and don’t think about it, that’s what I do when I can’t decide

Then I’m forced to do it from scratch can’t turn back

[worn ember]

like it doesnt suggest completions when i do the regular command but it does the suggestions when i add the plugin prefix

[waxen panther]

I just deleted my command files and had the old ones up on GitHub as a reference as I was rewriting it

[worn ember]

took a look at tickets at how you done it but that just got me more confused

[waxen panther]

tickets uses the builders, I’d link you a project using the annotations but I can’t think of any

[foggy veldt]

I remember following some residence plugin

[waxen panther]

Actually I think Bergerkillers traincart plugin uses annotations

[worn ember]

yeah people seem to hate the annotations

[waxen panther]

Berger has his own fork of cloud with a couple personal changes but, his code should be enough to follow

[worn ember]

[warm anchor]

ded picking back up on MC dev?

pog

[worn ember]

i want to kinda ditch rtp and start it again, its so convoluted it hurts to look at

[warm anchor]

no longer just a shitposter

[worn ember]

wanna make some minigames too just for the heck of it

[warm anchor]

just remake

[worn ember]

RTP V3

[warm anchor]

or go make some addon for big project

[worn ember]

gotta add some more events to essentialsx too but that'll be for after new years lul

[magic river]

bleh, I forgot the whole reason I looked at this discord... checks watch.... 3 hours ago

Fuck me you guys are distracting

[foggy veldt]

<3

I should probably get up too gl with rtp v4

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/rickhanlonii/status/1470074730279546895

Ricky (@rickhanlonii)

We don’t need everyone to upgrade log4j, just enough for herd immunity to takeover

Retweets

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Twitter · Dec 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

It's a whole thread

[foggy veldt]

Lol

I think my repo my choice is my favorite one

[wide chasm]

It's a trap, don't

[worn ember]

splegg is almost finished, just gotta do the config and the commands

[wide chasm]

No, splegg 1.0 is almost finished, once you release it you can finally start adding all the dumb bs your users request

[spare venture]

ded make a server

[worn ember]

j8 support

[spare venture]

more fun than rtp plugin

[worn ember]

i've done my fair share of servers in the past

[wide chasm]

Pro tip: if you suddenly need to evaluate conditionals and math expressions in configuration files, you've gone too far

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther

[worn ember]

it honestly wouldn't be too bad with configurate to do that

[magic river]

Every configuration or template language expands until it's a scripting language or is replaced by one that does

And sometimes you just give up and build a DSL inside a scripting language to start with

See: gradle

[worn ember]

competing standards comic goes here

[foggy veldt]

Gura is the config language to end all config languages

[wide chasm]

Let me know how things are going when your configuration file ends up being 80kB ded

[worn ember]

[magic river]

You have to have a hard cutoff right at the beginning

[wispy blade]

clearly hasnt heard of naml.

[worn ember]

only 79kb to go

[magic river]

If your config is more complex than key/value storage it's going to eventually grow into yaml or groovy

[spare venture]

ew config files

hard code everything

[worn ember]

ik thats what you like to do

queue

[foggy veldt]

Sure they had a fuck up but log4j is still a good logger to me ;—;

[spare venture]

well yeah i don’t make public plugins, why would i add a config when i can just change the code

[worn ember]

cuz changing a config value is easier than digging through code

don't even need to reload/restart

[wide chasm]

looks at plugin
Y-yeah, don't even need to reload/restart

[worn ember]

i had my server run out of heap yesterday from reloading

[wispy blade]

wwat

[spare venture]

depends on what you’re changing in the config i guess

[wide chasm]

ded please seek medical attention

[worn ember]

it was stuck on reloading resources which took like 10 seconds and then it was like "out of memory"

[wide chasm]

Everything you touch breaks

[vernal moth]

Log4j 2 never was a good system and everybody sane avoided it

[plucky sparrow]

mine is 4kb

😔

[worn ember]

lemme find the screenshot

[golden gust]

log4j2 is overly complex

and adopting it into any codebase basically requires that you first go learn some xml config to even get started

[vernal moth]

Logback > Log4j > jul > log4j2

[wide chasm]

Well, my config.yml is only 5kB, but my messages.yml is 83kB

[cosmic raft]

lol no @vernal moth

literally anything > jul

[worn ember]

it sure does

[golden gust]

then again, all logging frameworks require configuration pretty much, so...

[vernal moth]

Well, they both shit tier

[golden gust]

But, stupid features like jndi... just...

[foggy veldt]

Tbf I used it behind slf4j abstraction but it just worked for me so I liked it

[vernal moth]

If you use slf4j why even bother with log4j

[wide chasm]

I guess my laptop BSoD'ed today, so maybe I also break everything I touch

[worn ember]

thats probably just windows being windows

our tv setup breaks every time windows updates

[wide chasm]

lol

[ashen nacelle]

what was the BSOD message

[worn ember]

and windows also bricked on of my dads pc's with an update

[wide chasm]

Memory error I believe

[worn ember]

it wont boot anymore

[wide chasm]

Does it not boot in its entirety, or just not Windows?

[foggy veldt]

I always thought slf4j was just the api and you needed a impl like logback or log4j and then you can customize the two to your liking

[worn ember]

my laptop also used to BSoD every time it came out of sleep mode

[ashen nacelle]

could be bad ram

[worn ember]

not windows

goes to bios and then boot loop

[brazen escarp]

hi. before i leap into asking any actual questions, i'm a software dev and co-admin of a Discord server that is not primarily focused on Minecraft. i run a little Minecraft server as a fun side project for that community. on paper, of course. just wanted to say "hi" from halifax, nova scotia. :)

[wide chasm]

Yeah, I could give memtest a go, but this laptop is for uni and I avoid touching anything during a period.

So if I feel like it, I may run it after this period ends

[worn ember]

fair

we buy refurbished laptops for pretty cheap so we have like 5 laptops laying around to do various stuff with lol

[wide chasm]

I just know that if I'm making an assignment and then something suddenly wants to update, literally everything in the assignment will completely die the day of the deadline

[worn ember]

thats a given

same when you need to print something

either your printer will explode or your pc will die

[wide chasm]

Or there's not enough magenta for my black/white document

[worn ember]

or ur out of ink

[ashen nacelle]

HP printers every time you go to print something

[worn ember]

and these stupid printer manufacturers literally scan the barcodes of the ink cartridges so you dont go refill them somewhere cheap

printers are such scum

why is there a ! in my clouds, did i break the cloud too?

[wide chasm]

Yes

[worn ember]

i think the heap error might be related to the intellij debugger being attached to it or something

weird stuff ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ashen nacelle]

10 ways to start task manager

1. Press CTRL-SHIFT-ESC and it will start automatically
2. Press CTRL-ALT-DEL and select Task Manager
3. Use Start/Run and type taskmgr.exe
4. Use cmd.exe and type taskmgr.exe
5. Right-click the taskbar and pick Task Manager from the menu
6. in VBA execute the code ‘shell(“c:\…\taskmgr.exe)’
7. Press Win-X and select it from the Power User menu
8. Launch it from its start menu icon
9. Create a shortcut to taskmgr.exe and launch the shortcut
10. Use File Explorer to locate taskmgr.exe and launch it

[spare venture]

why is it so hard to get a booster rn for covid

everywhere i look is 30+ days out

[ashen nacelle]

i got my booster at the beginning of november

[worn ember]

we dont like boosters /s

[ashen nacelle]

they tried to deny me my booster

[vernal moth]

Here you just walk somewhere wait a bit and get it

[worn ember]

we get ours somewhere beginning next month i think

[spare venture]

i’m just not going to get it, will wait for omicron booster since by the time i get the delta booster and it becomes effective (like 2 weeks after iirc), omicron will be the dominant variant

[worn ember]

they work against both lol

[vernal moth]

Can just booster twice

[golden gust]

it's the same vaccine

[worn ember]

the strain didnt change

[ashen nacelle]

tbh the covid shot will end up like the flu shot

[worn ember]

just mutations

[golden gust]

just, the protection time seems to be like, a few dozen months

[ashen nacelle]

we will be getting a shot every year

[golden gust]

well, current expectations/hopes is that it just turns into an ultra-virulent practically nothing thing

[worn ember]

covid isn't going anywhere i feel like

[golden gust]

far too late for that

[ashen nacelle]

i bet the covid shot will be combined with the flu shot in the future

[golden gust]

early game was fucked up around the world

[worn ember]

no eco for late game

[golden gust]

late game, is, well, too late; unless you go china style covid 0

[vernal moth]

It doesn't really affect me anymore anyways

So who cares

[worn ember]

dead people care oh wait they dont

[vernal moth]

Only thing is that you gotta wear a mask in some places, but like, that's a good idea anyways

[worn ember]

yeah idm masks that much, they're still annoying to wear tho

[ashen nacelle]

i cant stand masks

it messes with some of my sensory issues

[vernal moth]

It's been two years, I got used to them

[worn ember]

just stop breathing then

[hexed dragon]

Sensory issues with masks?

[ashen nacelle]

I dont like things near my mouth and nose.

[golden gust]

I have auditory issues

[hexed dragon]

So you don't eat?

[worn ember]

you have a lot of issues cat

[golden gust]

masks are the bane of my existence when others are wearing them and am tryna speak to them :L

[hexed dragon]

Food goes near your mouth right?

[dim plank]

I've been wearing a mask 40+ hours a week doing relatively physically intensive work for roughly 2 years now, don't even think about it much anymore.

[golden gust]

was bad enough pre-pandemic with speaking to people :L

[worn ember]

here comes the airplane

[ashen nacelle]

same I cant understand what people are saying in masks

[golden gust]

I gotta get back into walking a bit, after I got ill I kinda stopped walking around as much as it was killing me, then covid hit and I was living with my bff who's immunocompromised, so, I didn't wanna go out and bring something back for her to deal with in general

[worn ember]

half my family got covid atm lol

[hearty spear]

I'm just waiting until the point where people realize it's like the flu as far as you would want to take the shot every year.

It's just gunna mutate

[ashen nacelle]

what I said earlier

[hearty spear]

Ya

[worn ember]

dont summon jroy

[foggy silo]

[worn ember]

The "nice" thing about very deadly diseases like ebola is that people die so fast it doesn't have as much a change to spread

[hearty spear]

What's interesting is that if a virus is too deadly it will die out. So if it's less deadly and is easily transmittable then it will spread better.

So it makes sense that less deadly but more transmissible ones are out there

[void void]

ceo of politics

[worn ember]

[plucky sparrow]

politics..?!

[magic river]

The #1 flu shot producer in the US is going through trials for a combined flu/covid shot

[worn ember]

https://tenor.com/view/disperse-lesley-nielsen-explosion-gif-13010485

[ashen nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/waste-politics-bs-john-thaw-gif-19803694

[magic river]

So yeah, next year you'll probably just get a combined shot in September or whatever

[ashen nacelle]

also what i just said earlier

[hearty spear]

Then basically it becomes routine. Plus only one shot lol

Win win

2 for 1

[tropic flame]

and not just that, being able to see the lips is useful for us to make up what someone is saying without necessarily paying 100% attention to the sounds they're making

without that, it makes communication more difficult

[magic river]

I was literally replying to what you said earlier and confirming it 😛

[hearty spear]

Probably gunna be a sore ass arm

[worn ember]

except when its not controlled the entire healthcare system crashes down, thats the only reason they do it, to keep the intensive care cases down

[magic river]

Do you not see the reply UI?

Oh, but you guys spammed memes in between my two messages

[worn ember]

its not memes, its gifs

[hearty spear]

I mean why 2 tho

One is enough for a gif

[ashen nacelle]

sourcecode to Task Manager
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyJw2MumgTQ&list=PLF2KJ6Gy3cZ7jCgV1VEAIcr867nCkynPn&index=3

[worn ember]

the amount of times that video popped up in my recommended

not like part 1 or 2 just part 3

[ashen nacelle]

how about the day Microsoft Campus Crashed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBmuY6qFMPQ&list=PLF2KJ6Gy3cZ7jCgV1VEAIcr867nCkynPn&index=12

[worn ember]

never heard of it

[void void]

https://github.com/Mojang/DataFixerUpper/pull/50 what in the fuck happened here

[worn ember]

probably a typo

dem approvals though

[vernal moth]

it was a meme

[ashen nacelle]

the story starts at 6:40 in video

[worn ember]

meme has gotten a weird definition over the years

[twin lagoon]

@untold meadow BEST kezz

[untold meadow]

@twin lagoon BEST mcieahil

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther BEST brocc

[waxen panther]

@twin lagoon BEST michelle

[plucky sparrow]

The new Oppo Find N actually seems like the only decent foldable phone to me

The screen size when folded is actually good

And not some tall shit like that on Samsung’s offering

[untold meadow]

@waxen panther BEST subway consumer

[worn ember]

i dont get the point of foldables

them being foldable adds nothing

[plucky sparrow]

Me either but this is the only one that is decent at it

[ashen nacelle]

foldable smartphones would drive me nuts

[worn ember]

all you do is introduce mechanical wear and tear

[magic river]

The two screen foldable is kind of neat, I think LG did that one?

[plucky sparrow]

Yea

[magic river]

Where it was just a thick phone but if you opened it you got a small tablet

[golden gust]

it's the bigger screen factor

[plucky sparrow]

LG sold a case for one of their phones that added another screen

[golden gust]

Like, think about being able to carry a tablet in your pocket with the form factor of two

[magic river]

Oh, I meant take the Oppo Find N and put a screen on half the back of it

[worn ember]

yeah and then you run around with a brick in your pants

[golden gust]

ofc, this is still early days so you're still mostly paying to be a tester of a project line

[plucky sparrow]

This is completely valid the issue is that Samsung’s take on this is having a fucking immensely tall screen

Which makes zero sense and shouldn’t be so tall

[golden gust]

Yea, the Find N defo looks like a better impl of it on the surface

still got a normal respectable screen on the front and opens up decently

[plucky sparrow]

Yeah it’s pretty nicely sized

[magic river]

iirc Samsung started out putting the screen on the outside to try to get this phone+tablet feature but screens don't like to fold that way and it sucked

[worn ember]

Web devs: Plz never get popular, plz never get popular

[plucky sparrow]

Reminds me of the Surface Duo

[magic river]

Oh so the Oppo Find N does have a screen on the back?

[golden gust]

to be fair, foldable phones are really nothing new to web devs in that respect

[magic river]

I've only seen pictures of it open

[golden gust]

on the back and on the inside iirc

[plucky sparrow]

It does have a screen on the back

[vernal moth]

he says while showing an app with no foldable support

[magic river]

Ok, so yeah, that's a neat setup

Normal phone but you open it to get a tablet

[plucky sparrow]

I mean I wouldn’t expect good 3rd party app support on such a new device and technology

[magic river]

It's not 21:9 though?

[worn ember]

i'll be impressed when we got phones that can fold like a map

otherwise they just seem pointless

[golden gust]

issue is is creases

a crease on a map is practically nothing

[magic river]

You can roll screens like a map

[golden gust]

a crease on a display is an entirely different matter

[magic river]

Can't fold them

[plucky sparrow]

The Oppo Find N apparently solved that issue actually

We will see how it holds up in some months

[magic river]

Motorola has a patent on how to pretend you're folding a screen without actually folding it

[plucky sparrow]

But definitely better than Samsung

[golden gust]

Well, didn't samsung used to say their screens didn't crease until they did?

[magic river]

Wouldn't surprise me if Oppo was just ripping off that patent 😛

[plucky sparrow]

To start with the crease in the Samsung Fold 3 is huge

Even when new

On their older fold phones it used to get worse after some time

But you can’t really notice the crease in the Find N or that’s what reviewers say

[magic river]

Motorola's design basically has some empty space behind the fold and a mechanism that makes the screen bow out in to that space so you get a gentle curve instead of a sharp crease

Like if you take a piece of paper and hold the ends together

[limber knot]

oh, hey Korobi, how nice of you to show up

[plucky sparrow]

Doesn’t look like it has that much of a crease

if any

[worn ember]

close it and open it 500 times

[foggy silo]

Bend it the wrong way

[plucky sparrow]

[worn ember]

fold it horizontally

[plucky sparrow]

Can’t wait for the JerryRigEverything vid on this phone

[frank otter]

I await the day I can make an origami sailboat with my phone

[worn ember]

i await the day i can tell people to stop projecting (with their phone)

[plucky sparrow]

Reminded me of this

[worn ember]

oh god istill remember that UI

i upsed to have a phone with a solar panel on the back

[plucky sparrow]

LOL

[worn ember]

it'd charge like 1% if it was in the sun for a couple hours

[plucky sparrow]

I had a shitty LG phone that didn’t even run android and there was this option where it would charge if you placed it in a sunny spot

But there was no solar panel to be seen

I still don’t get it

[worn ember]

i think i saved about 5000 trees

ur welcome

they should bring this back with todays tech

[plucky sparrow]

no

That phone looks awful

[magic river]

Too bad we can't use the Oppo Find N in the US even if it did support the right frequencies

[worn ember]

well obviously with a new look

[golden gust]

jesus

I mean, there was a hope that everything would have solar panels

They did the maths and eventually figured out that it was a stupid idea

[worn ember]

its not that bad for calculators tbh

[plucky sparrow]

[magic river]

Carriers in the US are already using or are moving to an IMEI whitelist for VoLTE functionality so once the 3G networks are all shut down next year if you don't have a phone they approved (which usually means one they sold) you don't get phone calls anymore

[golden gust]

well, yea, but those things run off a coin cell which lasts years

[plucky sparrow]

We all have one calculator with a solar panel

[ashen nacelle]

LEDs are secretly solar panels and solar panels are secretly LEDs

[worn ember]

we have like a 30yo calculator that has a solar cell in it, and if you cover it the brightness goes down a lot

[plucky sparrow]

Even if just one

[vernal moth]

I have all the power, fite me

[golden gust]

many of those solar calcs also have a battery in them

[worn ember]

[ashen nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WGKz2sUa0w

[worn ember]

i'll believe it when you finish hangar 😉

[rare tiger]

good leds are bad solar panels
good solar panels are bad leds

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLTDuGhqE2w

[rare tiger]

Solar Freakin' Calculators...

[magic river]

Japan had this weird obsession with tiny calculators which is why we got these credit card sized things that last for 30 years on solar power

I think it was just an excuse to flex their manufacturing capabilities

[worn ember]

i have one of these

looks like its dead though, maybe keeping it in my bag for 2 years wasnt a great idea

[golden gust]

pop it open and make sure that the battery hasn't fallen out

[ashen nacelle]

what about this one

[golden gust]

lol

[worn ember]

oh its actually a japanese calulator hah

[magic river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ansXGewduN4

[worn ember]

i swear japan has wars about the weirdest stuff

[magic river]

Hmm, actually I don't think that's the right video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6jQVqkpjc8 maybe

[rare tiger]

This was cured by only 2 doses of radiation

[ashen nacelle]

japan is the only country with a giant robot

[golden gust]

shame that japan is not gonna be much of a place in a few generations

China too, actually

but that one might take longer

[magic river]

Yeah I think that LGR one is the video I was thinking of

Or at least covers the same stuff

[plucky sparrow]

I was gonna check this lg phone that charges with the sunlight but it uses some sort of proprietary charger and I can’t find it

😔

[worn ember]

japan is also one of the few countries with a declining population

[plucky sparrow]

Not that different from other developed countries

[ashen nacelle]

japan's busnieses are still stuck in the 20th century

[plucky sparrow]

Developed countries tend to have a low population growth

[worn ember]

it never goes negative though

[plucky sparrow]

Sometimes negative

[worn ember]

no u

[ashen nacelle]

despite having the edge in technology

how about this for a cellphone

https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Cellphone-Display-Classic-Standby/dp/B08KTDK132/ref=asc_df_B08KTDK132/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=533439179423&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13094274797352780714&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015806&hvtargid=pla-1019960847259&psc=1

Ohio weather being very weird

61F (16.11C) in the middle of December

[magic river]

We had that yesterday

Along with strong winds, tornadoes, and then some snow to end the evening

[ashen nacelle]

they mayfield tornado that happened last friday

[magic river]

Minnesota had their first December tornado in recorded history yesterday

Iowa only had I think 5 recorded in December before yesterday and all of those were in the southeast corner, pretty sure we had 5 in one day yesterday

And they were in the northwest corner

[ashen nacelle]

problem is here when we get warm weather like this between December - Feburary we usually will end up with a severe storm and possibly a tornado

last year in january a tornado hit my town
https://www.weather.gov/iln/20200111_troy

[worn ember]

@ashen cliff i found your setup bro

[void void]

Bro!

[ashen cliff]

Fact.

[ashen nacelle]

ah good olfd vintage setup

[vernal moth]

#food message

my mouth is burning

but it was sooooooooo good

[ashen nacelle]

you weak

[worn ember]

that looks good tho

[ashen nacelle]

https://www.whio.com/news/timelapse-video-shows-moment-tornado-moves-through-troy-public-square/xzcysNXUA4xJOljicnp2dP/

[potent fossil]

you paid 40 euro for it or it was free and worth 40 euro mini?

[coarse lily]

He said boss was paying so I’m guessing he paid 40 and gets reimbursed.

[potent fossil]

fair

[coarse lily]

Or “spent 40”

[ashen cliff]

Those ribs don't look worth 40€.

[potent fossil]

also idk if it's just me but I can't see the tornado there, but then again it is EF0 which is the weakest on the scale

so

[vernal moth]

yeah am just gonna yeet my recipe at him

[ashen nacelle]

heres the damage
https://www.whio.com/news/local/photos-high-winds-cause-heavy-damage-troy/wtK4tZGTYjdJpW1n1GSlUP/

[ivory orchid]

okay so

did y'all make a patch for the patch

[golden gust]

for 1.17+

[vernal moth]

the headline is wrong

[golden gust]

It's mostly FUD and only relevant to stupid setups

[vernal moth]

it wasn't a bug in the fix

just another way to exploit the issue

that applies to basically noone

[ivory orchid]

I see

thank u for the information

[worn ember]

its only for custom setups basically

[potent fossil]

i mean yeah EF0 is what, something like 50-70mph winds so it's still a little wild and can cause damage but it's nowhere near the scale of damage I usually expect to see. I just didn't see the actual twister in the video

[plucky sparrow]

I feel like watching death note again

[golden gust]

I WILL TAKE A POTATO CHIP IN MY HAND

[ashen nacelle]

there is the tornado

[potent fossil]

Sorry I think I'm blind

I see a red box

[hexed dragon]

I see picture with red box.

And shit flag.

[ashen nacelle]

it happened so fast we did not get the warning until it passed

literally it dropped was on the ground for 3 seconds then after that the sirens sounded and the NWS issued a warning. NWS did come out and survey the damage and it was tornadic

[potent fossil]

yea

[ashen nacelle]

The most destructive date for tornadoes in Ohio was on April 3, 1974, as 16 tornadoes touched down, including F5 strength storms in Green, Clark and Hamilton counties that led to 39 deaths and 1,340 injuries. The storms caused more than $250 million in property damage

[foggy silo]

Ohio gang

[ashen nacelle]

1974 the xenia tornado My mother and father remember it

[foggy silo]

Wow

[magic river]

What do you call a psychic gnome what broke out of prison? A small medium at large!

🤣

[ashen nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/very-very-bad-michael-groth-mandjtv-thats-bad-thats-not-good-gif-18173258

[magic river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPJTA_K-VyM

[left swift]

amaranth how did last night go

I beat the storm home and right when I started making food to eat my power went off and had to go to shelter

lulw

[magic river]

The worst of it was gone in like 15 minutes and the winds were high but only like 40 mph gusts I think around here

All around was worse but we dodged it

[left swift]

we had gusts of 80-100mph apparently

[magic river]

Yeah I think I saw Denison had 81 mph

[left swift]

that's all we really had I think few hours up north in Minnesota had tornado

that was crazy

[magic river]

There were tornadoes in Iowa too

Minnesota had their first ever in December though so it was a bigger story

[left swift]

heatwaves in december be like

[placid basin]

is paper 1.18.1 complete?

or still unstable?

😀

[magic river]

looks at #❗-1-18-experimental

[knotty oasis]

its funny to see how damn slow worlds load whenever I do a test on spigot instead of paper

[neat oyster]

old meme lol

[ashen nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/hurricane-tornado-gif-14899205

[knotty oasis]

all of you who fixed that up did an amazing job

[left swift]

I think we hit record high temps too got into 60s

not sure

[neat oyster]

[ashen nacelle]

63F here (17.22C)

[left swift]

back down to 22F today lol

[native wolf]

Currently 4°C here

[magic river]

I think Ohio is getting what's left of the storm we got yesterday

[ashen nacelle]

most og our storms come from the west

it is rare but we do get storms from the east

[magic river]

Oh, no, that's a different storm

Ours appears to be in Canada as a big snow storm now 😄

[ripe sphinx]

can confirm we have a snow warning for the weekend

(vancouver)

[magic river]

Yeah this is the middle of nowhere in Ontario

[left swift]

lol

so 45mph winds and high of 61f for my area

[left swift]

just adapt to ice

[knotty oasis]

once starlink is viable Id totally live in the cold middle of nowhere in a comfy log house

I wonder how much thatd cost

[ashen nacelle]

I cant stand the cold I would rather live on a tropical island

[knotty oasis]

born in november might have something to do with me not minding the cold too much

[ashen nacelle]

im a spring baby

[left swift]

I cant decide whether I hate or love the new twitter mobile layout

[plucky sparrow]

same

what a dream

with the fireplace

[foggy veldt]

Just paid $17 for a club sandwich and $8 for a single slice of cheesecake

One day I’m going to say fuck it and only order from McDonald’s

[warm anchor]

Look at Mr money bag there

[left swift]

McDonalds salads

the world is dying anyways eat what you want

[foggy veldt]

I’m not mr money bag that’s the thing, I’m broke college student ;-;

[left swift]

maybe ur broke cuz you spend 25$ for food everyday

[warm anchor]

Home cook noodles

Pasta every day

For 50 cent per meal

[foggy veldt]

I wanted to try something new

[warm anchor]

You ain’t broke if you ain’t to this level

[left swift]

25$ you could buy like 4 12 packs of ramen noodles

that's like weeks of food

ez

[warm anchor]

More if you go to Costco

This guy is clearly rich

Spending $20 for a meal as college student

[tropic flame]

flashbacks of that ancap dude in #politics

[left swift]

just cut out all other sodium when you eat only ramen noodles otherwise other problems will arise

[foggy veldt]

I had ramen 6 days in a row it’s not even the good ramen either

[left swift]

that's good ramen

theres so much sodium in those it's crazy

[foggy veldt]

This is noodles and salt

[left swift]

yup

classic

the dish of asians and college students

[viscid wedge]

https://twitter.com/kingbdogz/status/1471187142089003013?t=JTZUEaHZOFevkwODTCK1dQ

kingbdogz (@kingbdogz)

can we all appreciate @wChiwi's animations for the Frog? He seriously nailed it. This is the first mob where we've used keyframe animations, and I think it came out gorgeous while still feeling Minecrafty https://t.co/DqcI9cJmBu

Likes

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Bro wake up new frogress report dropped

[hexed dragon]

Yeah for bedrock.

[worn ember]

deep slate

[viscid wedge]

Java will get them eventually

They seem to want to maintain rough feature parity

[worn ember]

until they eventually ditch java

[viscid wedge]

True

Honestly won't be that upset when it does happen, I'm sure the Fabric guys will carry the torch

[worn ember]

[left swift]

lol

isnt java still a bigger userbase

[vernal moth]

wasnt for years

but that doesnt matter

[left swift]

java wasnt?

all them fones and consoles

mobile gaming: the future™️

[vernal moth]

just two different target audiences

way harder to convert mobile users

[worn ember]

youtube going for the feels again

9years ago at this point

[vernal moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQZDOP3-PKc

this shit is what I remember of early MC youtube

[worn ember]

i miss the days where modpacks just got introduced and it was the coolest shit ever

[vernal moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM52HxaLK-Y

[viscid wedge]

Jaffa Factory

[vernal moth]

2010 first episode, holy shit

[viscid wedge]

You remember the Santa Sips and Simon built on top?

[worn ember]

lol sips was too edgy for yogscast

loved the dude

https://youtu.be/hf65onSwvGs his explanation of dota is perfect

[void void]

Guys pls how can I get 1.16.5 paper version?

please

[wide chasm]

https://papermc.io/legacy

[void void]

?

[coarse lily]

Click the link.

1.16.5 is there.

[void void]

It opens this

[coarse lily]

Yes.

Read it.

Answer questions.

Click button.

Downloads will appear.

"Please answer the following questions to gain access to the downloads"

[plucky sparrow]

LOL

[void void]

lol

[native wolf]

lmao

[warm anchor]

I think we accidentally make the question too hard

could've been calculus

[wide chasm]

"Please integrate the following equation from 0 to infinity"

[warm anchor]

iamgine if we pull an online database of calculus question randomly each time the page is loaded

[void void]

LMAO

omg that would be amazing

"please find the anti-derivitive of (2x^4+2)/(17+2^x)"

[wide chasm]

"Show your work"

[viscid wedge]

Can I post non-java exploit writeups here

[void void]

lol

[viscid wedge]

I'm looking at NSO's ForcedEntry and it's insane

[vernal moth]

its fun for sure

[viscid wedge]

The vCPU part is what threw me off really

The amount of effort that must've gone into this is frightening

[vernal moth]

calling it a cpu is a stretch

[void void]

7 monuments in this area wtf

[twin lagoon]

IT'S THE MOST, WONDERFUL TIME, OF THE YEAAAAAAAAAAAR

[native wolf]

oh shit

[warm anchor]

[vernal moth]

not that bad

check status michael

[plucky sparrow]

Wait is this why discord is kinda slow

Or is it just my internet

[twin lagoon]

no it's pretty fucking bad considering everything is extremely slow

[viscid wedge]

Centralization bad

[ripe sphinx]

oh that's why all my alerts are blowing up

[native wolf]

yup

[vernal moth]

I notice like nothing, lmao

u guys suck

[main brook]

discord dumb

[native wolf]

i noticed it about 5mins ago but it got better

[main brook]

discord

it is struggling

[plucky sparrow]

Gosh it’s so annoying when discord is slow

[void void]

true

[vernal moth]

just.... don't use discord

[plucky sparrow]

Oh yes switch to irc

[ripe sphinx]

weeeeeee
https://f.u11.io/DEldCI

[wide chasm]

Yes, let me join phoenix on IRC

So, ehm, how does IRC work?

[vernal moth]

first, open cmd

then open telnet

[twin lagoon]

your probes should be hitting the direct IP and not cloudflare, makes them kinda useless otherwise

[vernal moth]

then type open irc.spigotmc.org 6667

[wide chasm]

I mean, I would, but pc can't find telnet, so...

[twin lagoon]

telnet isn't a default windows component and it hasn't been for years

[viscid wedge]

can you actually join an irc server with telnet

[vernal moth]

telnet client is an optional windows feature

gotta enable it

https://i.imgur.com/j0gwmgH.png