I've seen people do it with netcat, so I guess it makes sense
#general
viscid wedge
ripe sphinx
can't. All behind CF.
I could have another probe just hitting the raw IPs for the 2 boxes I have access to, but meh
vernal moth
you can def use irc with telnet
viscid wedge
TIL
wide chasm
When I open that window the list stays empty. Guess this is too much for poor Windows 7.
vernal moth
irssi or whatever isnt much more
plucky sparrow
windows 7…
wide chasm
I'll just complain on Discord about Cloudflare, much easier 🙂
main brook
worn ember
whats that from
worn ember
I'll just complain on Discord about Cloudflare, much easier 🙂
if your responses get through
viscid wedge
irssi...
ripe sphinx
whats that from
This is my personal Grafana instance
viscid wedge
I didn't know people used that still besides for scraping torrent files
plucky sparrow
if your responses get through
I wish your responses never went through 😘
wide chasm
Only had one message that took a noticeable amount of time, haven't had issues other than that
ripe sphinx
looks like CF fixed it https://f.u11.io/LWYlz3
worn ember
I wish your responses never went through 😘
grafana is noice
wrong reply but fuck you dab
plucky sparrow
ok dad
worn ember
dab the basement dweller
worn ember
toxic
left swift
worn ember
thank you dab, very cool
plucky sparrow
you’re welcome dep
magic river
I've done IRC with telnet before
Like, spent an hour hanging out in a channel during a class or something
Couldn't install anything, public cgi::irc were banned, telnet to the rescue
limber knotBOT
hello from irc
warm anchor
better than furry
native wolf
nice
warm anchor
Couldn't install anything, public cgi::irc were banned, telnet to the rescue
telnet is still used in certain region 
red panther
Is someone else having issues with latest intellij update?
it is literally downgrading instead of upgrading, all plugins break
left swift
hello world
magic river
plucky sparrow
I’ll stick to the weeb pfp
viscid wedge
I don't think I've ever had to use telnet for anything productive
OpenBSD netcat has worked for every situation
magic river
I think I've only used it for IRC and spacewars2000
Oh, and the star wars thing
You could watch the opening sequence of star wars via telnet
plucky sparrow
@wispy blade I have new pfp
wispy blade
i see
worn ember
ugh weebs
wispy blade
ugh belgians
worn ember
did you shit your pants or something? ur quite grumpy today
plucky sparrow
Your presence makes me grumpy
wispy blade
he is excited to get started on "Enchantments"
worn ember
your loss
plucky sparrow
Hard to withstand such levels of stupidity
plucky sparrow
he is excited to get started on "Enchantments"
Vanilla enchantments should be replaced with our “Enchantments” on the enchanting table
wispy blade
Hard to withstand such levels of stupidity
you're saying ded is dumber than me? damn
plucky sparrow
Quite possibly, yes
wispy blade
didn't have to murder him
worn ember
hah i like the icon for records
wispy blade
lul totally forgot i had This Place Will Grow EP in my downloads
golden gust
"okay, but, why's it a circle" ~ Somebody, somewhere
plucky sparrow
"okay, but, why's it a circle" ~ Somebody, somewhere
Somebody, somewhere speaks just like you
left swift
dab is a weeb
plucky sparrow
no
left swift
yep
left swift
weeb game
magic river
What game is that?
plucky sparrow
Paladins
magic river
Also I thought 2d vs 3d was real vs not
left swift
yep confirmed weeb
magic river
3d game would be going to play basketball or larp'ing or something
plucky sparrow
um
twin lagoon
someone is getting fired
imagine having to convince the higher ups to suspend sales
coarse lily
imagine having to convince the higher ups to suspend sales
Or they wanted to add infra and when told the cost management said “no” and halted sales instead.
Bad decisions can come from any area of the company! :)
foggy veldt
Update: currently hovering the bathroom because I feel like vomiting
ashen nacelle
Update: currently hovering the bathroom because I feel like vomiting
you get food poisoning?
foggy veldt
No clue
foggy veldt
Should’ve just stuck to the ramen 😔
ashen nacelle
foggy veldt
Lol that’s literally me rn
I’m googling how to make yourself vomit without shoving a finger down your throat
ashen nacelle
rather than that suck on some ginger or ginger chew
it should help setle your stomache
left swift
if you wanna vomit just look at deds code
languid karma
bro
ashen nacelle
if you really want to vomit just imagine Jeff Goldblum in the Fly shagging Paris Hilton.
languid karma
I lost all faith
foggy silo
Our school is just increasing the amount of police in our school... haha.
peak ginkgo
im too old to understand what this means
left swift
the email?
peak ginkgo
the significance of tomorrows date
languid karma
since when did tiktok challenges have meanings
left swift
seems as if there's a "trend" on social media saying people are gonna commit acts of violence tomorrow
languid karma
yea i hope that they don't actually do anything
these are the same people who poop on the floor of the boys bathroom (real story btw)
ashen nacelle
just know that posting a school threat here (in america) will land you in prison
foggy silo
gotta keep schools safe...
left swift
there was that challenge where people would smash gallons of milk on store foors
languid karma
wasn't there another one where they lick a toilet seat or something
left swift
"challenge"
void void
Our school is just increasing the amount of police in our school... haha.
Police in schools?
languid karma
Yea we have that
ashen nacelle
yep same here
ashen nacelle
police patrol the schools here in America
peak ginkgo
I think it depends where you're from, or maybe things have changed since I was in high school
Our school employeed school specific security
Not local police
void void
our country employed gun control laws
languid karma
all i know is that he walks around with a gun and handcuffs
void void
~~our country employed gun control laws~~
Gonna summon politics moderator jroy soon 
languid karma
my friend once got yelled by him because he was tossing fruit at the chain-linked fence and cut the fruit in half
foggy silo
it's important to note I can outrun the officer 
languid karma
it's important to note I can outrun the officer <a:flushed_blink:770446937589678...
cant outrun the bullet
ashen nacelle
left swift
too much politics guys ur gonna get banned
ashen nacelle
After being called "insane" by another player, Carter responded by saying:
"Oh yeah, I’m real messed up in the head, I’m going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts."
left swift
no politics
worn ember
> After being called "insane" by another player, Carter responded by saying:
>
...
you should see dota chat lmao
ashen nacelle
no matter what game it is there will always be some toxic players
felling better? @foggy veldt
left swift
ew
worn ember
toxic people don't phase me lol, if they're annoying i just mute them, most of the time its fun to see them rage and shout in mic though
left swift
how do u mute urself
worn ember
alt+f4
left swift
irl
spare venture
fuck them kids
ashen nacelle
other side
spare venture
why was my nickname changed
mighty storm
rather than that suck on some ginger or ginger chew
Ginger WHAT
left swift
because ur a joke
spare venture
have you ever looked in a mirror
left swift
never
spare venture
figured
ashen nacelle
Ginger WHAT
ginger is great for an ailing stomach.
worn ember
nomana has no reflection cuz it ran away the moment he saw himself
left swift
my reflection gone to fuxk ur mom's reflection
spare venture
that kid got fucked haha
worn ember
you should go reflect
wispy osprey
i cant download legacy,
left swift
reflect deez nuts
spare venture
glad they are taking terrorist threats that seriously
worn ember
lol
spare venture
but politics
ashen nacelle
Ginger WHAT
worn ember
its like when the fbi busted in eminems door cuz he said something in a rap song lul
worn ember
foggy silo
ginger
spare venture
terrorist threats should be taken seriously. id rather some dumbass gets 8 years for saying he was going to commit mass murder than another person die
better than them just saying “oh he said jk so we won’t jail him” and then he goes on to kill 30 kids
worn ember
8 years in jail with thugs must be good for your mental health, agreed
worn ember
wtf no toxic
foggy silo
Jroy my LOVE
cunning raft
all of you know the rule
foggy silo
and so do i
worn ember
shitposting it is then
ashen nacelle
uh-oh JRoy has been summoned from the Abyss
left swift
jroy smells
foggy veldt
I’m trying to find “where are they now” of the kid dancing in the club meme but dude is a ghost
solemn phoenix
Hello, can anyone recommend a backup plugin?
ashen nacelle
even better set up a cron task for full backups
spare venture
is it shared hosting
solemn phoenix
No, I am running it on my own server, ie. I have physical access
spare venture
linux?
solemn phoenix
Yeah
worn ember
I’m trying to find “where are they now” of the kid dancing in the club meme but ...
probably doesnt have internet 
ashen nacelle
even better set up a cron task for full backups
^^^
left swift
rsnapshot
solemn phoenix
Thanks
spare venture
all of you know the rule
are the rules/guidelines going to be updated to specify that politics are not allowed in the off topic channel?
solemn phoenix
One more thing, for the task what needs to be included for a full restore? I assume that It is okay to run while the server is also running as well
hoary belfry
from a scale of 1-10 how stable do u guys consider paper mc servers to be right now?
worn ember
69
left swift
500
cunning raft
are the rules/guidelines going to be updated to specify that politics are not al...
aurora mentioned it in #announcements at some point
i imagine we can add something there
ashen nacelle
One more thing, for the task what needs to be included for a full restore? I ass...
if you are doing a full restore the mc server jar cant be running hwile the restore task is in progress
left swift
One more thing, for the task what needs to be included for a full restore? I ass...
if you so local backups you just replace the region files or world when the servers off, for backups just turn off saving during the backup
left swift
if you so local backups you just replace the region files or world when the serv...
or do backups at restarts
solemn phoenix
or do backups at restarts
Thanks, I think that may be the way forward
hoary belfry
i am sorry i know i am bothering but is this a community meme of sorts to not give a straight answer to the question i made? because lots of other people also ask the same? i'm trying to figure this out.. 🙄
left swift
yes
left swift
1.18 builds are marked use at your own risk
make backups, use a test server, report problems, use #❗-1-18-experimental
ancient bolt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n_Ty_72Qds
lmao I've never seen that before, amazing
ancient bolt
nope
ancient bolt
WatchMojo
mfw
vernal moth
ok that video sucks
basically little britian is how I learned how the UK works
gives me good context to understand cat
ashen nacelle
ancient bolt
wtf is a video describing the sketches?? Just show them??
vernal moth
yeah it sucks
ancient bolt
describing a sketch is never funny
vernal moth
google yourself
ancient bolt
I love Mitchel & Web Look, seems similar
ashen nacelle
anyone here a fan of monty python?
left swift
anyone who isnt should be banned
vernal moth
!ban @left swift dum
ancient bolt
\!ban <@!121769553603723265> dum
mfw why didn't that work? Special ! or something?
vernal moth
\
ancient bolt
oh what
left swift
📣 cat
ancient bolt
interesting
vernal moth
if you \ ! it also does stuff to the font
worn ember
maybe discord just doesnt show it, but its still part of the command
\test
well so much for that
worn ember
discord moment
vernal moth
🥦
worn ember
as if brocc knows anything about whats funny smh
left swift
u can also give a monthly python opinion aswell
warm anchor
hello brocco vacation soon? 
twin lagoon
@waxen panther 
twin lagoon
why is brocc in invisible mode .
left swift
to hide from u
cunning raft
@waxen panther
cunning raft
@waxen panther
twin lagoon
brocc still working after workhours ?
warm anchor
brocco is ashamed that hes slow
ashen nacelle
Lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.
warm anchor
hes working afterhour to catch up
waxen panther
un-true
twin lagoon
i am never mean to my broccoli
ashen nacelle
broccolai geting abused by mods again?
left swift
foggy silo
hi broc!!!
waxen panther
michael mod 2022
cunning raft
although he should be
-1
waxen panther
who r u ?
left swift
excuse me
fallen acorn
left swift
oh no
ashen nacelle
left swift
another one
foggy silo
cunning raft
@waxen panther hello
foggy silo
JRoy 
fallen acorn
@waxen panther nom
left swift
do time outs work on mobile clients
worn ember
just dont update your clent 
waxen panther
foggy silo
jroy time me out for a min plz
left swift
idk if it even is released on mobile
foggy silo
(for science)
left swift
worn ember
ashen nacelle
why you guys letting his powers grow. if Jroy gets too strong we cant send him back to the abyss.
foggy silo
FEED them
worn ember
why you guys letting his powers grow. if Jroy gets too strong we cant send him ...
politics are his cryptonite
ashen nacelle
politics are his cryptonite
politics are what summons him.
twin lagoon
jroy loves politics
foggy silo
hey.. pst... jroy...
worn ember
just say no to getting banned, they cant legally ban you without your consent
worn ember
now he has to deal with it in general
worn ember
thats still dealing with it but ok
foggy silo
jroy please timeout me (1 minute) 🥺
hexed dragon
Were you timed out?
ashen nacelle
watch it or I will post my CPU temps in Fahrenheit again.
fallen acorn
Hey jroy
fallen acorn
Oh not the P word
foggy silo
(ancient summoning ritual)
foggy silo
P-
hexed dragon
Oh I know Party
fallen acorn
Princess
hexed dragon
Pizza Party
magic river
It took me a few minutes but I found the anime for that GIF 😛
It was a one-season anime about a LN that only got 9 volumes but the spin-off about the girl doing the biting got another 8
tropic flame
source? 👀
magic river
magic river
Kasumi is Kyōya's younger sister. She is hinted to have a brother complex, where she hides all his novels, only leaving one because it has a little sister as the heroine.
well that didn't come out right at all
tropic flame
h m m
worn ember
ah yes your typical anime
wispy blade
@magic river next time, use saucenao.com (way faster)
tropic flame
trace.moe should also work
magic river
I went through tineye until I found a dead URL that had a character name in it
wispy blade
you know you fucked up when the logging library starts complaining you're doing it wrong
left swift
ah yes
ashen nacelle
I am back
ashen nacelle
eew lolicons coming out of the woodwork
left swift
yeah naomi showed up
ashen nacelle
It's past your bedtime Naomi
wispy blade
if i was a lolicon then why am i into girls that tower over me
left swift
helps when you're 5'2
ashen nacelle
im 5'5"
left swift
shortie
ashen nacelle
I am short for a man. but whatever
left swift
it's ok atleast you're in papermc 2.0 general chat where everyone is based and cool and not cringe
worn ember
https://youtu.be/Ks5cWd5STT0 now put this sound over it
ashen nacelle
at least my profile pic isn't of a certain vampire succubus from offbrand.
left swift
yea ded stop being cringe
ashen nacelle
anyway. to send JRoy back into the abyss.
DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE!
left swift
Joey 
magic river
I need to watch those movies this weekend
ashen nacelle
looks at soup6020
I know you changed it to the great jahy after being pointed out.
viscid wedge
You just earned it back
waxen panther
@cunning raft
worn ember
this gambling law is kinda pog xD i already know what a lootbox will give me before i open it
ashen nacelle
careful there ded
worn ember
bruh if that is political you might as well just mute me
ashen nacelle
runs mrsmajor.exe
left swift
@waxen panther
ashen nacelle
void void
scariest part of the video is the part where he uses windows
hot hamlet
Any of you big brains know why suddenly the minecraft launcher cannot connect to internet
The original launcher has been unplayable for days and i just installed the new one and have the same thing
Kinda inconvient to run a server without being able to use minecraft lmao
potent fossil
Have you tried deleting your .minecraft folder
ashen cliff
MultiMC.
potent fossil
^ or a different (better) launcher
hot hamlet
negative
potent fossil
could just rename .minecraft to .minecraftbackup
then try it and see if anything changes
south matrix
.fortnite
fossil patio
java
hot hamlet
o.o
potent fossil
no fortnite here
tawdry zealot
If u used altering mcleaks or those bs
You need to clear something
McLean blocks smth in windows Main dir
hot hamlet
I did test the servers anti alt thing xd
tawdry zealot
So I don't remember it but McLeaks removes access to thr ip
tawdry zealot
I did test the servers anti alt thing xd
There you go
Mojang servers are blocked probably
Now to fix I am not really sure as someone from minecrafts official dc helped me
Smth to do with windows system files
hot hamlet
I found the authenticator they gave and re ran it
I did genuingly use it to test the servers abilities ;) i am VERY online mode xd
spare venture
i imagine we can add something there
yeah i mean just adding the banned topics to the paper guidelines would be enough, would maybe reduce how many times you have to yell at people
only way to find out right now is getting yelled at for it
tawdry zealot
*I did genuingly use it to test the servers abilities ;) i am VERY online mode x...
They block mojang servers that's why bruh
cosmic raft
no fortnite here
tawdry zealot
https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-dance-fortnite-emote-fortnite-snakepit-default-d...
Eww
true canyon
https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-dance-fortnite-emote-fortnite-snakepit-default-d...
Announcing Paper for Fortnite!
ashen nacelle
get that fortnite crap outahere
foggy veldt
Portnite
worn ember
dabnite
brave radish
So what can anyone one say about https://github.com/anchore/grype? Just saw it mentioned on the issue tracker and seems cool
worn ember
nice spelling
waxen panther
left swift
wow a whole cookie
tropic flame
I'd have to decompile the plugin to make sure, but judging by how simple the jar file looks inside, it probably just uses API methods
so, no NMS
it should still work @fair cloak
give it a try
I'm sure MobLeashEvent hasn't changed ever since 1.6.2 lol
void void
Hey all! 
I'm sorry, but may I ask, is it possible to change my nickname on the server to "Angel" since it automatically (it seems) set it to "\ngel"?
serene bolt
there you go
south matrix
can you change my nickname to owner of paper 👍
magic river
@void void "Minecraft saw over 141 million monthly active users in Aug. 2021" and that's paid users, it's counting people logging in
It was 140 million in April 2021, 126 million May 2020, and so on downward as you go back in time
foggy veldt
Speaking of user base, is geyser worth looking into?
Have people noticed a significant increase in player count after allowing bedrock players
magic river
I think the last number I heard was that Bedrock was like 3/4 of all sales so... maybe?
Oh cool they're doing an Into The Spider-Verse 2
I didn't watch all of the first one, some of the animation styles hurt to look at, but I'm a fan of the concept so it's nice to see more of it
dawn sequoia
can someone help how would u prevent duplication glitches
warm anchor
By using latest paper and only install good plugin @dawn sequoia
dawn sequoia
By using latest paper and only install good plugin <@672970056594096140>
i have 1.18 paper and i dont have any plugins
warm anchor
i have 1.18 paper and i dont have any plugins
If you can successfully recreate the duplication in survival with no plugin go #869651180698099732
dawn sequoia
If you can successfully recreate the duplication in survival with no plugin go <...
wait i use aternos paper does that impact anything?
warm anchor
You will need to test on stock paper. Idk if they modify anything but I doubt they would
crystal lilyBOT
dawn sequoia
no like is aternos paper up to date
warm anchor
I would not know. That’s a question from you to Aternos
Are you reporting a dupe or you just want to prevent future dupe? I may misunderstand your original question @dawn sequoia
dawn sequoia
Are you reporting a dupe or you just want to prevent future dupe? I may misunder...
want to prevent future dupe
warm anchor
Oh then just keep your paper up-to-date 
spare venture
😳
magic river
Game is growing, from paid players, you say the growth is all kids in asia pirating the game, that's clearly wrong
half hawk
Speaking of user base, is geyser worth looking into?
toilet paper
proud lance
you were talking about it in the paper support chat
magic river
Oh, do you think they'll kick you for racism or something if you say what you're talking about?
half hawk
hey be nice
magic river
The reasons you'd be kicked for talking in here boil down to "being an asshole" but even that's not enough because I'm still here
It's okay, you can just admit you're wrong
You don't need to lash out
Game has done nothing but grow for 11 years but 2 or 3 more and that'll be it, no one will be playing anymore
I don't think any of the mods are that fast
half hawk
were they banned or (edit: i assume they deleted their messages?)
half hawk
ah
static badge
omega rolled
magic river
Unless when you leave a server it deletes all your messages that was a ban
Weird thing to ban for
magic river
@pallid tapir should probably move over here since it's not a paper thing
pallid tapir
ah okay
magic river
You could get a heap dump and try to see what is using so much RAM
magic river
The server gets a lot of say in how much RAM the client is using too so try single player and/or different servers and look for a difference
Yeah, it'll all be obfuscated
pallid tapir
oh alright, saw that and didn't check it out
one last thing, let me set my flags to what I had before
magic river
Looks like you'll want the /sparkc command once you get it installed
pallid tapir
yup, saw that part
pallid tapir
Looks like you'll want the `/sparkc` command once you get it installed
My current flags are -XX:+UseZGC -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=50
spare venture
why are you using zgc?
pallid tapir
Using ZGC because it can apparently run concurrently without pausing the application as often, and 50 ms pause time to prevent lag
I fear I may have fucked up and it can't keep up now, but it used to work fine so I'm not sure
half pier
fakk
pallid tapir
gonna load a world and wait till I start lagging then run sparkc
spare venture
we’re you having problems with g1gc?
magic river
Does the client even use g1gc?
warm anchor
nope
void void
Does the client even use g1gc?
...yea?
proud lance
I thought it did by default
pallid tapir
I could've sworn it used to be g1gc
warm anchor
Idont think it run any speical stuff?
spare venture
oh you’re talking about client?
void void
g1gc is the default java gc... right?
spare venture
i didn’t scroll up
proud lance
afaik yes
warm anchor
yeah
spare venture
it is as of java 11?
pallid tapir
either way I was looking at JellySquid's gist about garbage collectors and ZGC seemed compelling
void void
so yea, the client uses g1gc
pallid tapir
Anyways I personally use ZGC on my client
void void
unless you've set it to use smth else
magic river
-Xmx2G -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:G1NewSizePercent=20 -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=32M
void void
ah
magic river
I guess they updated it finally
spare venture
the only person i really trust about gc is aikar
magic river
Aikar said the client GC stuff was okay, at least back before it was using G1GC 😄
pallid tapir
`-Xmx2G -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:G1NewSizePercent=20 -X...
that may be just to ensure that g1gc is used, since you could have a weird JVM running your server
warm anchor
wut
magic river
The client definitely used to use the CMS GC
viscid wedge
I'd trust Jelly as well as Aikar
spare venture
cms was default in java 8
magic river
No I mean it set flags to make sure it used it
spare venture
ohhh
proud lance
I think I saw G1GC being used by default since 1.17 or maybe 1.16
spare venture
i’d imagine 1.16
magic river
Makes sense, 1.17 is when they stopped using Java 1.8.0_51 shudder
spare venture
was it 1.17?
magic river
btw, fun fact, if you run a version of MC older than 1.17 on Windows it gets run with a super exploitable JVM
spare venture
i lost sense of time
magic river
It's like 300 builds behind the latest and most of those were exploit fixes
pallid tapir
It's like 300 builds behind the latest and most of those were exploit fixes
this is why I use MultiMC most of the time. Forces me to think about what Java version I use.
magic river
jelly? The person who works for Riot?
pallid tapir
that and all the other features and advantages of a new jvm
pallid tapir
jelly? The person who works for Riot?
JellySquid, the person behind the popular performance mods
magic river
Yeah, they work for Riot don't they?
void void
afaik she does
pallid tapir
no idea ¯_(ツ)_/¯
void void
smth like that
void void
lmaoooo
pallid tapir
what software am I meant to use to inspect a heap dump again?
magic river
Hytale people don't work for Hypixel anymore I thought
void void
idk
magic river
Riot bought them
half hawk
what software am I meant to use to inspect a heap dump again?
eclipse?
void void
oh, then she works with riot ig 🤷
half hawk
its a different software, not the IDE
pallid tapir
is there a way to remap this heap dump so I can see proper names for stuff?
magic river
Nothing in that heap summary makes me think "wow this is using a lot of RAM"
pallid tapir
Nothing in that heap summary makes me think "wow this is using a lot of RAM"
it spikes a lot which is weird
magic river
500-1000MB is about what I'd expect
pallid tapir
I wish I could make a memory usage graph
so I could show you what's going on. Even with 4096 mb to work with it keeps hitting that cap repeatedly.
to be fair though I am using a worldgen datapack so it is being hit a bit harder
magic river
For that you'd want to go with jprofiler or something
But yeah, worldgen is insane in 1.18
And I'm sure terralith hits it even harder
pallid tapir
And I'm sure terralith hits it even harder
exactly, that's probably what's causing this, I have to imagine
but I want to figure out if there's anything I can do about it on my end to at least lower GC stutter
I know my frames will sometimes suffer but I prefer that to outright GC pauses like I've been getting
I've just downloaded JProfiler
magic river
The recommended flags modpack users pass around for the client are actually what MC ended up using now 😄
Vanilla is only missing one part:
-Dsun.rmi.dgc.server.gcInterval=2147483646 This tells the RMI layer not to do a full GC every minute. Yeah.
pallid tapir
Vanilla is only missing one part:
> *-Dsun.rmi.dgc.server.gcInterval=2147483646*...
stealing that, thank you. Where did you find this?
pearl hearth
lol
viscid wedge
Ok that makes sense
viscid wedge
only the best of graphs from reddit
pallid tapir
Vanilla is only missing one part:
> *-Dsun.rmi.dgc.server.gcInterval=2147483646*...
it appears vanilla, at least on MultiMC, is missing more. Will add these.
magic river
That's from cpw
pallid tapir
That's from cpw
what do you mean? I look in my logs in multimc and isn't using those flags.
I'm not quite sure how to read these, but here's a JProfiler snapshot.
going to try those flags now
magic river
That post (and the crappy graph) are by cpw
I don't have jprofiler (I don't even have java) so I can't look at that file, sorry
pallid tapir
oh well
what I want to know was why JProfiler had a bundled JRE
like anybody who runs that is going to know how to install Java
magic river
That was ironic, I was trying to remember the /tab-complete command to give someone the info on that Java 17 bug and Discord wouldn't provide a tab complete for it after typing /tab so I thought it had been removed after Paper added a workaround for the issue
pallid tapir
That was ironic, I was trying to remember the `/tab-complete` command to give so...
lmao
magic river
People worried about cheaters should just install https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/lib-hates-mods.78202/ it'll solve all your problems 🤣
pallid tapir
how do I deobsfucate a crash log?
I want to try and figure out what's going on here myself for now
trim steeple
sometimes when I'm bored I love using /title
title @a title "You feel an evil presence watching you..."
every once in a while I'll ssh in and put that in chat
always scares people
potent fossil
always scares people
thank you, it was pretty glorious and fun http://paper.owo.foundation/A1fyjqi.png
proud lance
lmao
magic river
pfft, just get a bow, eye is easy 😄
18 months after supposedly "the final Terraria update" tModLoader hasn't been updated and dude is still tinkering with the game, latest update was 3 weeks ago
Since 1.4 came out a bunch of new vanity stuff has been added, a new boss, a new NPC, some new game mechanics, etc
trim steeple
I want to get back into terraria
or maybe I just want more of terraria in minecraft
imagine the underground mushroom forest in minecraft.......
that would be awesome
trim steeple
if they ever do Minecraft 2, I hope it's just 3d terraria lol
white cliff
bukkit is for servers. bukkit has several forks, such as spigot, paper, purpur. these are meant for server side performance, options, and plugins.
Forge is for modded minecraft
Fabric is a newer modloader for modded minecraft, its usually faster, has more mods for newer versions, updated sooner, and has a significantly less toxic community
daring owl
forge is like og mods
white cliff
starlight doesnt work with phosphor iirc, thats why
daring owl
they r different
it has starlight it was me being dumb
starlight is 20x faster than phosphor
there is a comparison someplace
daring owl
magic river
Phosphor is microoptimizations to vanilla lighting engine, Starlight replaces it entirely
daring owl
white cliff
my gf is gonna kill me if i make her install a new modpack
daring owl
Phosphor is microoptimizations to vanilla lighting engine, Starlight replaces it...
dosent it also patch random light bugs just by the nature of being a recode
idk i saw someone complain abt that
white cliff
Phosphor is microoptimizations to vanilla lighting engine, Starlight replaces it...
this^
starlight is better, and I have no doubts that it will be preferred by modders by next year. SpottedLeaf is a genius
But rn phospor is "better" because more mods like iris have phosphor support over starlight
magic river
iirc the iris/starlight conflict was new in 1.18, wasn't it?
I figured that was just due to the way they rushed their first release for 1.18
coarse lily
@static badge you’re a genius.
daring owl
Spottedleaf do be making epic stuffs
proud lance
I keep clicking on spotify instead of atom
daring owl
DOES FAWE HAVE A LAG CLEAR
i swear to fucking god if thats causing my issue
OMFG
'1dw qfa/sc
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sDFB
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/wsdf
south matrix
bless you
magic river
hehe, looking at that modpack led me to Krypton which is networking improvement ideas from Velocity and Tuinity but as a Fabric mod
void void
mr NotMyFault is at fault
Not his fault
daring owl
daring owl
hehe, looking at that modpack led me to Krypton which is networking improvement ...
made by tux
i think it made my ping better
by a significant ammount
or it was couinciince
@mossy vessel Bruh what is this #general message
Im prob gonna get banned for that
but like wtf
magic river
Pretty sure it was a coincidence unless your computer can barely handle the CPU time needed for MC networking
daring owl
yea
viscid wedge
hehe, looking at that modpack led me to Krypton which is networking improvement ...
Tux is GOATed
magic river
The mod is meant for servers so they can spend more time loading chunks and less decrypting packets
daring owl
I feel like tux and spottedleaf are goated
magic river
I suppose less CPU usage is always nice though, it probably doesn't break anything so may as well toss it in there
Well, doesn't break anything if you're connecting to vanilla servers (spigot and paper count)
daring owl
i mean it works for me
magic river
I imagine it breaks stuff a lot with mods that want to do custom packets or something
magic river
Or does Fabric provide an API for that stuff?
daring owl
Ok
magic river
If so then it just needs to make sure that API doesn't break
daring owl
like in the latest version of paper and fawe it does this #general message
wtf
amaranth
pls help
wtf
viscid wedge
I imagine it breaks stuff a lot with mods that want to do custom packets or some...
I've never seen it break anything
daring owl
why is it so broken
magic river
Ditch FastAsyncWorldException and see if it still happens
viscid wedge
lol
hearty spear
Idk ive never had issues with the regular world edit
viscid wedge
FAWE
not Paper
Go ask for help somewhere else lmao
daring owl
wtf is Pufferfish?
i switched to paper for testing
its like airplane patches + an async mob spawning calculation
proud lance
ew
also I have never gotten FAWE to work lmao, everytime I try it throws errors at me and I just use WorldEdit
daring owl
Ok its 100% fawe
proud lance
and move on with my life
magic river
I can't think of any paper setting that would make it delete all item drops if you get too many
daring owl
I can't think of any paper setting that would make it delete all item drops if y...
it works without fawe
south matrix
WE + AWE goat
viscid wedge
Pufferfish is fine, but this isn't really the place to ask for help with it
daring owl
im not assking for pufferfish support
south matrix
@Kevin_#6801
daring owl
if i need support i always switch to paper then test and come here
its fine in normal worldedit
viscid wedge
Sounds like a bug report to file with IntellectualSites then
south matrix
of course it is
viscid wedge
Because that doesn't sound like intended behaviour
magic river
But it appears to be buggy and does it when you aren't doing a WE command
viscid wedge
<@!254790994594234370> Bruh what is this https://discord.com/channels/2895879090...
bruh you're dead when mods wake up
radiant oriole
I heard my name
daring owl
Kinda deserved
south matrix
no i didn't say anything
radiant oriole
no, fawe, fuck off 
south matrix
that's what im sayin!
viscid wedge
LOL
daring owl
<@!254790994594234370> Bruh what is this https://discord.com/channels/2895879090...
u guys gotta vouch for me on this one. dont ban me pls
edgy agate
Ayeeeeeeee
radiant oriole
I accept no responsibility for any bugs that happen while FAWE is molesting the server
viscid wedge
How's the hosting business Kevin?
radiant oriole
it's goin
daring owl
I accept no responsibility for any bugs that happen while FAWE is molesting the ...
hi, sorry for blaming u it was fawe
edgy agate
Molesting? 😳
daring owl
well i said it was airplane caus ethats what someone said
edgy agate
Minecraft graphics are sexc
radiant oriole
FAWE commits war crimes
charred maple
What does FAWE do?
edgy agate
On github?
edgy agate
Who is fawe
radiant oriole
and should not be touched if you care about not having bugs
edgy agate
it's worldedit, but fast, async, and unstable as all hell
Oh
radiant oriole
I've had it corrupt an entire world three times now
edgy agate
Worledit for cheaters
daring owl
The clip was deleted from the intelctual sites fawe support channel
lmfao
they deleted it
magic river
iirc the core concept of what FAWE does is something WE has wanted to implement for years
radiant oriole
some nice racism in that server's chat wow
daring owl
welp
feel bad for r00tbeer
he told me not to use fawe, then i asked if he knew what was causign this
magic river
FAWE apparently just doesn't do it the way WE wants or, it seems at times, do it very well 😄
daring owl
then it was fawe
daring owl
FAWE apparently just doesn't do it the way WE wants or, it seems at times, do it...
wait what
ok english is fixed
radiant oriole
funny thing about FAWE is if you ask anybody about it who's related to the org that maintains it, that person doesn't maintain it
magic river
iirc the main thing that makes FAWE F and A is that it queues changes and applies them in batches across several ticks
radiant oriole
I have literally no idea who's responsible for FAWE because everybody claims they're not responsible for it
no FAWE quite literally modifies the world off the main thread
it is truly async
edgy agate
Ahh sweet beaucracy
magic river
Oh, am I thinking of AWE?
daring owl
awe is safe right
radiant oriole
You're thinking of AWE, which is its own buggy piece of trash but at least it never corrupted my world
edgy agate
That's me when I try to call a government institution no one's responsible ;3
radiant oriole
AWE is still buggy as hell and I can't recommend it
edgy agate
Why am I even talking in here I'm a nobody
daring owl
AWE is still buggy as hell and I can't recommend it
How do you suggest I regenerate a 200x200 area at spawn on my serbur
mellow quiver
personally never had any issues with fawe being unstable or buggy
radiant oriole
200x200 is not that large and can be done with regular worldedit if you don't care about a few seconds' of lag spike
radiant oriole
trust me your players will forget the lag spike ever happened 10 seconds later
alternatively you could do it in chunks
magic river
Manually chunk it up, stop doing that, or take the server down and do it with MCA Selector 😄
radiant oriole
You could also just disable pvp for a few seconds, fix it, and then turn pvp back on
that way nobody gets mad
daring owl
nah they r they kinda of people who spam me screenshots of their client tps counters at like 19.9tps if i get rid of it on tab
pale river
I've replaced entire regions on my server while it was running after checking no one was loading the region
radiant oriole
ever hear of ignoring people?
daring owl
ill test out awe
radiant oriole
I've replaced entire regions on my server while it was running after checking no...
I've done this too, you just have to be careful of region file caches
pale river
it was my only choice though, the region was too far messed up due to a bad rollback.
could cause issues doing it repeatedly.
radiant oriole
I mean you can always shut down for a few minutes lol
daring owl
Best way would be a slow regen overtime
radiant oriole
https://i.imgur.com/xdWspbK.png
IS is an org of multiple people
daring owl
Best way would be a slow regen overtime
idk a good way to do that tho
daring owl
IS is an org of multiple people
u got that wrong. IS is a mess
next frost
IS is an org of multiple people
now try to understand that there isn't a single person responsible for anything 
swift root
This isn't the place y'all.
daring owl
This isn't the place y'all.
sowry
viral hornet
u got that wrong. IS is a mess
There's like <10 people in the org wdym lol
daring owl
just mad cause of this
swift root
Shittalking a software org because you don't understand vanilla minecraft isn't the way to go
daring owl
im salty cause of random bug
swift root
you can copy a chest and its NBT in creative, nothing to do with WE or FAWE or AWE or Paper
pure minecraft
daring owl
literallty what
swift root
Yeah! creative allows infinite blocks! who knew
daring owl
Yeah! creative allows infinite blocks! who knew
Not that
it makes blocks vanish
for no reason
viral hornet
Might want to delete that video they leaked too, @swift root
Has some terrible language in it
daring owl
nword unfiltered <:PES3_YikesMan:771029769805365288>
my serverr?
viral hornet
@daring owl bruh if you actually have an issue or a bug with a plugin - report it to the authors of said plugin.
Talking about it in Paper General aint gonna solve your problems.
swift root
You're just picking blocks up?
daring owl
<@!909974582813941821> bruh if you actually have an issue or a bug with a plugin...
They deleted the video from their discord
swift root
Can't you just reproduce this in a vanilla singleplayer creative world
radiant oriole
They probably deleted the video because it contained the nword
which isn't unreasonable
swift root
pretty sure that since the creative inventory is unending, you can just pick things up ad infinitum
radiant oriole
The one on your live server did lol
swift root
Evidently not, had to delete it here
daring owl
Sorry
viral hornet
warm anchor
it ok we know your server has bad chat 
it happens just cover it up like how fitMC does it next time
radiant oriole
or... try not to make your server a toxic hellhole
next frost
your message was deleted because you wrote all upper case lol
swift root
Also I haven't tested but the thing with the block 'disappearing' is likely just your creative inventory picking them up. It picks everything up, and deletes what it can't fit
daring owl
Also I haven't tested but the thing with the block 'disappearing' is likely just...
It was fine without fawe
swift root
Demonstrate on a vanilla singleplayer creative world
viscid wedge
do it somewhere else this is the taco channel
viscid wedge
oh true
viscid wedge
warm anchor
viscid wedge
What the fuck
viral hornet
That's a lot of toilet paper
viscid wedge
That's what I'm sayin
warm anchor
its ok we dont kink shame here
void void
🧻
wispy blade
its ok we dont kink shame here
pretty sure the only thing you do is kink shame
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daring owl
@swift root is this good enough
swift root
I mean, that's definitely not a singleplayer vanilla creative world
viscid wedge
hey don't post that here this is the toilet paper channel
swift root
soup this is fine for this channel
daring owl
I mean, that's definitely not a singleplayer vanilla creative world
no but it shows the bug more clearly
coarse lily
But he said to demonstrate in single player creative.
swift root
All of the mods seem to take me way too seriously
I'd suggest that if it's several mods, you may be trolling a little too much 😛
Yes, PhoeniX, I'd like to see what happens differently
daring owl
ok
viscid wedge
daring owl
ok 1 sec
viscid wedge
I'd suggest that if it's several mods, you may be trolling a little too much 😛
Hey man I don't have any warnings yet, we cool
swift root
we indeed cool
coarse lily
we indeed cool
We are very cool.
magic river
swift root
my apologies if i wasn't clear, the WE was exclusive not inclusive, geez
viscid wedge
Coolest in school
magic river
...not sure if you read the infobox for my thing yet or not
coarse lily
I didn’t.
magic river
If so let me back away slowly
magic river
Specifically backing away
viscid wedge
https://www.tofugu.com/japan/kancho/
This was an epidemic among some of the boys while I was at a Japanese high school
magic river
Huh, the article seems to suggest it's mostly under 6 kids who do it
viscid wedge
That's how I read it as well
magic river
The article also explains why kids in anime are so violent and bite people all the time 😄
wispy blade
https://www.tofugu.com/japan/kancho/
this seems to be the case in NL as well, with year 1-3 secondary school students
magic river
I mean, it doesn't "explain" it, it's just that's what kids there do in real life too
daring owl
@swift root
potent fossil
daring owl
I don't have that issue lol
its fawe
viral hornet
((without the terrible chat lol))
swift root
@daring owl send the vanilla video and solo paper+FAWE video very kindly to the IntellectualSites folks
it'll be immensely helpful with finding the problem
potent fossil
hi camm
daring owl
its resolved
coarse lily
its resolved
How was it resolved?
daring owl
me = very low iq
swift root
👀
daring owl
me having low iq
swift root
what was the issue
daring owl
swift root
o.o
daring owl
But everyone was gaslighting me into thinking it was vanilla
potent fossil
swift root
There was no reason to believe it wasn't