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warm anchor
mental meadow
!ban @haughty glacier Scam
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned teryy#5389 (Scam) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.
plucky sparrow
yes I do check pins
fallow oak
thank u
worn ember
there is no pin about it
void void
same
void void
there is no pin about it
there is lol
mental meadow
yes there is Ded
plucky sparrow
wher
void void
^
worn ember
?
mental meadow
scroll down
worn ember
bruh
warm anchor
@worn ember
frank otter
but it wouldn't be worth pinning a "send scam screenies in general" message
frank otter
oh there is one
worn ember
imagine going through every pin before posting a message
frank otter
goes to show nobody checks pins
warm anchor
poor wizjany
worn ember
ping him if you have any questions about it 
warm anchor
nice reply
mental meadow
!ban @vivid thorn Scam
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned Mustache#5357 (Scam) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.
worn ember
i wonder how much accounts they got so far
stable canyon
Cool thanks
void void
thousands
plucky sparrow
@wispy blade ur a daft cunt
worn ember
must be profitable if its this large scale
frank otter
Seems to have slowed a bit in here at any rate
worn ember
ive seen these pop up for weeks tho
wispy blade
<@!338608021791965204> ur a daft cunt
don't even have a cunt 😔
void void
pretty sure the steam accounts bring in the cash and the discord accts help in spreading
plucky sparrow
😔
vernal moth
i wonder how much accounts they got so far
last I counted over 300
mental meadow
yeah it's been going on for a few weeks now but never this extreme
hexed kelp
Ive got my staff team on a few servers putting all of their status's to the one I have
tryin to do our part
worn ember
might be a targetted attack
warm anchor
it is
plucky sparrow
add a special command for scammers
so you can have proper statistics
worn ember
yeah
hexed kelp
oh def
frank otter
might be a targetted attack
what, they think people that frequent papermc are more gullible
I mean fair enough
frank otter
Good point actually
worn ember
they should just target the minecraft discord and they'd never run out of accounts again
hexed kelp
they should just target the minecraft discord and they'd never run out of accoun...
lmfao
worn ember
no thanks
warm anchor
you get an average of 5~10 DM a day
warm anchor
LOL
plucky sparrow
nooo
warm anchor
waiiit
worn ember
ah yes, another one
plucky sparrow
add this url to the list
plucky sparrow
yes
void void
no you aren't
warm anchor
I got excited when I look at it
plucky sparrow
commmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmunlity
warm anchor
lol
frank otter
Scammers in #paper-help too yay
plucky sparrow
shut up u aint going the army you prick
mossy vessel
!ban 837237532881846302 scam
mental meadow
!ban @void void Scam
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned Dann_Kashii#0010 (Scam) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.
warm anchor
commend failed successfully
vernal moth
!ban 547180067395076119 scam
warm anchor
vernal moth
mfw the images they post are already deleted
tawdry girder
but I wanted the skins :(
worn ember
haha was just checking too
frank otter
did you actually expect a valid imgur link
void void
These guys are shooting themselves in the foot
warm anchor
its actually kinda smart
warm anchor
they use the trick of Discord only embed first URL
frank otter
do you have that obfuscated steam fake url set to auto ban?
warm anchor
quick pasture
they use the trick of Discord only embed first URL
really? thought discord embeds more
untold copper
who
frank otter
lmfao the spelling variations
untold copper
yes I do check pins
lmao-
warm anchor
really? thought discord embeds more
wait you are right so they just <link> on 2nd one
plucky sparrow
Pineapple bad
spice crane
frank otter
pineapple is awesome
untold copper
Pineapple bad
@cedar spade this fool.
frank otter
it contains enzymes that attempt to digest you
mental meadow
!ban @light wraith Scam
plucky sparrow
Carrot cake though..
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned SupremLeedar#9459 (Scam) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.
untold copper
aurora bestest mod uwu
plucky sparrow
Pineapple sucks
frank otter
Put it on pizza
wispy blade
you suck too snoopa
plucky sparrow
Pears and pineapples are the worst
plucky sparrow
Pears are so so so overrated
frank otter
pears and pineapples are cool, pears less so but pineapples...
plucky sparrow
The skin on pears 🤮
wispy blade
pears are just too soft for me to enjoy
plucky sparrow
Yeah
wispy blade
and i dont like their taste 
frank otter
I like the kind or crunchy-snappy pears you can get sometimes
The taste is fine for me
frank otter
Crunchy snappy sour green apples are awesome
wispy blade
YES
plucky sparrow
Apples are top tier
frank otter
they are best fruit
frank otter
Mmm I still like the green ones (I think granny Smith?) more
frank otter
Apple cake tho
plucky sparrow
Haven’t tried that out
wispy blade
dude
worn ember
Android cake
plucky sparrow
Carrot cake is best tho
frank otter
A while ago we had an apple tree in our garden
wispy blade
Echte Limburgse vlaai btw
worn ember
A while ago we had an apple tree in our garden
we have like 30kg of apple sauce in our freezer from our apple trees lul
frank otter
make apple sauce Popsicles and serve them to kids at Halloween
wispy blade
yooo
plucky sparrow
Caramelized apples though..
worn ember
no one comes here at halloween
plucky sparrow
wispy blade
halloween in western europe
plucky sparrow
Yess haha
frank otter
I have never been out trickortreating at halloween
wispy blade
same
plucky sparrow
Same
wispy blade
too busy gaming
warm anchor
It’s fun actaully
void void
spam seems to have calmed down
warm anchor
To scare the shit out of kids
quasi crater
@untold fiber
wispy blade
spain moment
plucky sparrow
Rarely but they do
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?ban 613561056098254858 Scam
void void
Did the ban not go through or just the message?
wispy blade
mayb
waxen panther
proxi used ? instead of ! :p
wispy blade
lmfao all these pathetic scams
both work tho
i keep checking irc logs because unread messages in #paper-help
and it's all just dumb spam
warm anchor
Nioma kept checking if anyone mentioned her 
wispy blade
no because then i would get a ping, yrerieyten
void void
so many bots getting yeeted lol
true canyon
!ban @royal oracle discord scam
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned Lightpheonix#7109 (discord scam) [1 total infraction] -- mbaxter#1592.
void void
thank you
true canyon
wispy blade
hmmmmmm
azure nebula
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?ban @chilly minnow Scam
thorny flickerBOT
cannot convert @691269901582860328 to user, snowflake
graceful cosmos
minor badge
Ah alrwady banned
minor badge
?ban @mental stone Scam
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned alvenes#9384 (Scam) [1 total infraction] -- Proximyst#6900.
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@waxen panther cute
fresh pendant
frank otter
Bloody hell it hasn't stopped
fresh pendant
Ehh, it was an hour ago but appears they weren't banned (according to my discord client)
Are... You... Serious... The irony is unreal
minor badge
?ban @shell sinew Scam
thorny flickerBOT
cannot convert @704017285202837635 to user, snowflake
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?ban 704017285202837635 Scam
craggy urchin
that was... weird
worn ember
lol this still going on
worn ember
fun stuff /s
wispy blade
yuh
fresh pendant
Oh nice, how are you autobanning? By if they contain the text or a link or the embed?
wispy blade
anyone know wtf libkf5kiowidgets is
old panther
gg
wispy blade
anyone know wtf libkf5kiowidgets is
figured it out
apparently some kde libraries i had got corrupted or smth
waxen panther
thats what you get for using kde
hexed kelp
Still being raided?
limber knotBOT
yep
marble lark
anyone know wtf libkf5kiowidgets is
how does a library get corrupted so hard that it's name changes xd
marble lark
oh
limber knotBOT
I wonder if the bot owner manually adjusts the spam messages or if they are smart enough to automate that lol
nah they're a multiserver thing
grizzled kiln
yo is there a way to forbid placing spawners next to each other and require a distance for example 8blocks between each spawner
so the players can only place spawners 8blocks away from another one
warm anchor
Use insight
But I don’t know if it can be set for X blocks
Don’t allow your player to relocate the lag machine will be your best solution
wise rapids
Hi
idle plover
mm
hidden karma
Y'all missed this one btw
true canyon
!ban @wispy star discord scam
thorny flickerBOT
cannot convert @!708706742221144146 to user, snowflake
true canyon
And because I misclicked the image and went to your profile instead: ROCK AND STONE!
worn ember
at least its not weeb
hidden karma
your fucking kidding me
worn ember
true canyon
Booped
void void
fuh cking hell
hidden karma
man epic games made a mistake
wispy blade
how many peopsle get their accounts stolen because they fall for this stupid crap holy shit
high niche
seizure warning damn
hidden karma
lmao
rotund cargo
#waterfall-dev this is the chaos...
wispy blade
they spam every channel, dw
void void
how many peopsle get their accounts stolen because they fall for this stupid cra...
lol once i argued with some idiot a year later his account got hacked
wispy blade
poor irc peeps
tulip depot
someone named @void void has dmed me spam twice today
I didn't really care the first time
potent fossil
use /modmail and send them screenshots
tulip depot
thanks! where do I use /modmail? just any channel?
high niche
at least #adorable-pets is safe
potent fossil
yea
true canyon
They appear already gone
potent fossil
oh, ok den
high niche
you jinxed it
potent fossil
hai mbax
true canyon
tulip depot
thanks
worn ember
well if not getting accounts they at least gonna get seizures
potent fossil
i need a caffeine mainline
tulip depot
it must be a pain for the mods since they always seem to happen from so many different accounts at the same time for some reason
dusk drift
Thanks for the unban - Whoever did it ❤️
golden gust
Be nice if discord actually fucking did shit
dusk drift
I went into the channel
golden gust
Shit, somebody banned you?
dusk drift
😦
quartz tendon
@true canyon Another discord token grabber scammer 
@lucid cradle
true canyon
!ban @lucid cradle discord scam
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned wolmerbonomo#9931 (discord scam) [1 total infraction] -- mbaxter#1592.
tulip depot
that's a lot of pings
true canyon
Let's ban HexedHero again! 
wispy blade
sulu got a bit too excited xd
south matrix
holy moly that's a lot of messages in paper-help
tulip depot
do you guys have a bot that autobans people who post the messages, or is it a custom bot for paper or something
they seem to get deleted immediately when posted here
dusk drift
prob made Eraser auto delete the link
topaz mortar
Yep and all removed faster than the Scoreboard flickering.
potent fossil
iirc there is a bot that gets a few but mods are almost always around to get stuff it doesnt
and if they're not around there is a way to get their attention (modmail or pinging the group)
south matrix
the site takes you to a fake login page so they can steal more accounts
tulip depot
I was just curious because I'm in another server that has this sort of issue
south matrix
sad
potent fossil
yea, lots of servers have this problem, nothing you can do except fight it when it happens
tulip depot
well eraser seems to autodelete them
potent fossil
eraser is very smurt
wispy blade
only thing that you can do is @discordapp on twitter to fix it
tulip depot
is eraser something i can just add to a server?
wispy blade
private bot iirc
golden gust
Not eraser, it's another bot just doing simple stuff
dusk drift
warm anchor
You can go ring the door bell at discord at every social media to annoy them just like how those bots are snooping us @tulip depot
tulip depot
lol
golden gust
There are a few trivial ways to detect this type of shit which is a fucking pita that they don't do it
warm anchor
They are the one that have to fix this
tulip depot
can't you just scan every url and blacklist certain domains
they all seem to come from the same sites
warm anchor
Allow DM should be an opt-in feature not an opt-out one
golden gust
That's what we do
formal turret
mine are open and i've not ever gotten any of the spam
edgy cradle
tulip depot
true
golden gust
depends on how easy of a target you are, really
edgy cradle
Only shared server is this one
golden gust
provide their user ID and somebody may ban them
edgy cradle
700627877158191185
tulip depot
it would help if there was some sort of centralized registry managed by discord though
golden gust
!ban 700627877158191185 DM scam
tulip depot
or at least by people who are involved a lot
golden gust
That would require discord to actually do shit
quasi crater
np
dusk drift
Discord support is the worst thing I've ever seen
frank otter
Holy fudge scams are still going on?
warm anchor
Kinda but only in DM
tulip depot
well there were some in here
frank otter
how longs it been now
tulip depot
but they got deleted instantly
deep quiver
Hello, the user @frigid hornet also send that scam
frank otter
there's a list of things that get autodeleted
warm anchor
2 hours
quasi crater
i have the ip of that scam dudes webhosting and his provider
frank otter
but can you do anything with it now
tulip depot
no its public information
frank otter
someone already asked the tld abuse iirc
quasi crater
warm anchor
i have the ip of that scam dudes webhosting and his provider
You can send it to registrary for complain but that’s kinda a waste of your time
quasi crater
open up some abuse complaints
if they’re overwhelmed with a ton of the same reports im sure itll take em down
frank otter
I wonder how profitable all this is
warm anchor
Pretty ok actaully
tulip depot
probably very if they're still doing it at this scale
quasi crater
well they steal your info and sell it it costs maybe $30/year for domain name+cheap offshore hosting
warm anchor
I wonder how profitable all this is
Steam inventory is their primary aim
dusk drift
Gotta get them skinz
warm anchor
There are certain times on steam that are common bettable items for illegal betting sites and steam hasn’t really take any huge step on stopping them @frank otter
warm anchor
The amount of dumb kids on steam (where this type of scam is most common) makes it very profitable and you can spawn up one betting site for one tournament and close it and run after
For games like CSGO or Dota2
There are keys to open chest and their base price is $5-10
There are arcana in Dota and their best price is $30
waxen panther
broccolai, you have won a glory AK !
frank otter
So you buy items from within steam
warm anchor
And there are other high value items that worth $500-5000
frank otter
And then they are consumed by games?
dusk drift
dota/csgo items are a fucking giant market
warm anchor
No they last forever
dusk drift
there is companies based on it
quasi crater
anyone want my Youtube premium code? i dont even watch youtube
quasi crater
CXYAZSIUR3QT
warm anchor
Or a special looking skin for a hero/champ in Dota
frank otter
anyone want my Youtube premium code? i dont even watch youtube
if you actuary have one don't sent it in
formal turret
kek too late
frank otter
public channels
quasi crater
lol oh well gotta be fast!
frank otter
I think it got snapped by a bot congratulations
frank otter
Bloody hell
warm anchor
There are 3rd party site where they act as middle man and let you sell for USD (against tos)
frank otter
It's like one extra bit of visual clutter how is that worth $600
golden gust
!ban @warm anchor steam scam
warm anchor
frank otter
I kinda wish everything had an I here t value if it was limited edition
*inherent
would make life much more profitable
warm anchor
It’s gotta to a point (peak was 2019) @frank otter so I went to the biggest tournament in the world in Dota
The entire trip was $2500 ish
frank otter
Dota is fps right?
warm anchor
MOBA
frank otter
don't know what that is but ok
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by onetesseract - About 7,500,000 results (0.58 seconds)
warm anchor
You get “in game” drop randomly from being a spec in the tournament
dusk drift
Dota is defo more of a RTS imo
warm anchor
I got a total of 13 root box from the event and it pays for the trip @frank otter
frank otter
Holy fuck
warm anchor
They used to sell for $150 - $250 each
frank otter
holy fu
dusk drift
Are you going to TI10? Eternity?
warm anchor
There’s also digital autograph of professional players
frank otter
my brain refuses to understand that virtual objects can hold such high value
warm anchor
Basically it’s a physical signing booth
And you get a physical copy and digital copy
formal turret
there are csgo knives that are worth a lot too lol
https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/730/★ StatTrak™ Bayonet | Lore (Factory New)?filter=Knife
here you go tesseract
warm anchor
And there are professional liner there
frank otter
HOLY SHI
formal turret
would you like to buy a digital knife for 1k?
frank otter
that's like whqt
frank otter
it's just a knife what the hell
lean kiln
that knife is not even expensive compared to many other skins
frank otter
Jesus xhrist
warm anchor
Yes that’s not even that bad
formal turret
yea aren't there guns that are even more expensive?
warm anchor
But yeah it’s time to money laundering
royal kernel
You spent 2500 to watch an esports event, Id spend that on a in house Theatre to watch esports
left swift
Time laundering
frank otter
People use these 1k knives to bet online
warm anchor
@dusk drift I am skipping this years ti coz of covid
frank otter
Imma leave before someone posts something worth more than my entire income will ever be
formal turret
yea i knew there were more expensive ones but i didn't know how to find them on the steam market lol
warm anchor
I used to be a collector so you can trust me on the source
formal turret
so i was like ok 1k is still a lot i'll link that instead
left swift
They aren't on steam markets they're on trading sites
warm anchor
😉
royal kernel
8 was in China and I will never go there willingly
Why not?
dusk drift
There is a max limit on the market
formal turret
oh ok
warm anchor
There is a max limit on the market
$2500
warm anchor
Used to be $500
left swift
One second
warm anchor
They raise it to combat the need for 3rd party
And trying to keep the transition in the steam official market
dusk drift
I used to have a super low float csgo knife but now its like 50th but it was like 7th at one point 
warm anchor
They also makes the odd in Dota community box a lot higher
So rare item is only around the range of hundreds of USD not thousands of USD
left swift
warm anchor
tulip depot
do people actually use knives in a game with guns
waxen panther
yes
dusk drift
ye its the most commonly used item
golden gust
close range OP OP OP
left swift
In csgo?
formal turret
you hold the knife and you run faster
dusk drift
^
warm anchor
Yes you use knife to run faster coz logic
waxen panther
"logic"
warm anchor
I guess gun is harder to run with
formal turret
and sometimes you can stab people in the back and they die
tulip depot
you ever hear the saying don't bring a knife to a gun fight though
does that just not apply here
untold copper
day #77 of trying to get abs: no exercise cos im sleepy af lmao. I stayed up til 3 last night finishing this hugeeee biology assignment. but now i dont have to worry about bio for the next 2 weeks. worth it.
warm anchor
Mf in CSGO run like Olympic 100meter world recorder holder
left swift
Trying to apply irl logic to csgo
worn ember
rookie numbers
frank otter
38k
warm anchor
@worn ember
worn ember
warm anchor
My peak 
frank otter
I could buy a car with 38k
dusk drift
10 year old item 🥱
worn ember
how much are they now
warm anchor
Cheap
dusk drift
like $100
waxen panther
<@208641151509463051>
???
left swift
Apparently a collector earlier this year sold a blue gem ak47 with 4 rare stickers for 150k usd
waxen panther
eter whats your most valuable item
worn ember
deez nuts
warm anchor
eter whats your most valuable item
The friendship I have here 
waxen panther
my friend has made like $600 from selling rust skins pre-otv lol
waxen panther
The friendship I have here <:Pepelove:524460614945341450>
🙄
golden gust
The real prize is the friends you earn across the journey
tulip depot
do you ever just play the game for like... fun
golden gust
||and the bitches, goood do I loooove bitches||
ashen cliff
||and the bitches, goood do I loooove bitches||
I love you too.
left swift
You cant have fun playing video games
dusk drift
I've been trying to earn friendship with cat for years
worn ember
||and the bitches, goood do I loooove bitches||
idk why you'd be into dogs like that
worn ember
As a matter of fact, i might be
tulip depot
the nerve of some people
plucky sparrow
I love you too.
Ruthless
worn ember
Paper discord: literally on fire
cat: i sleep
Paper discord: kink shaming
cat: 
warm anchor
@waxen panther provably this https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/570/Inscribed Crimson Unbroken Fealty
I have a good amount of item in $500 range though that’s why I never have to spend a dime in steam
rotund cargo
my friend has made like $600 from selling rust skins pre-otv lol
If someone get the logins for my Overwatch account they can make easily 1000€ (even if I have only spent 15€ in a single skin)
plucky sparrow
I have a good amount of item in $500 range though that’s why I never have to spe...
I was looking to see if the url was fake
plucky sparrow
I’ll never forget steamcommmunlity
tulip depot
.ru
warm anchor
You can sell them either for real money or for other steam games or other skins
worn ember
I’ll never forget steamcommmunlity
make it an url to get insta banned
warm anchor
That’s what makes them valuable
frank otter
<@!264203519806930944> provably this <https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings...
Eternity how much have you spent on this game
rotund cargo
The thing is <@202500610686320649> OW item is account bonded
yeah, that's why some people try to hack accounts to sell them...
warm anchor
A lot but I was also one of the earlier collector
tulip depot
the most expensive video game item I've ever owned is a $1.70 katamari trading card
worn ember
i used to sell stuff in tf2
warm anchor
So a lot of my stuff from 2016 I pay $50s are now 4x 5x the price lol
worn ember
good shit
tf items are now worthless sadly xD
instead of going up it all went to shit
tulip depot
i thought osrs was the coolest shit when I figured out you could trade items in a universal stock exchange
i didnt realize a lot of games have that
worn ember
Crossout has a cool exchange system too
warm anchor
Nothing newer has any value coz valve wants to keep it this way ded
tulip depot
with osrs you can actually buy membership bonds with in-game currency, so you can actually experience everything without paying a cent
worn ember
probably cuz gambling laws or something stupid
warm anchor
Loosen regulation is good. I am pro for that because the alternative is what we have today
worn ember
i already know whats in my crate before i buy it xD
warm anchor
All illegal and shady 3rd parties
warm anchor
i already know whats in my crate before i buy it xD
Ain’t the items limited to your region though?
tulip depot
genshin, although some people hate it, actually tells you the probability of everything you can buy in extreme detail for some reason, which I think is good
warm anchor
Steam also enforces a new region change cooldown
worn ember
Ain’t the items limited to your region though?
no clue
warm anchor
So you can’t claim that you are from Argentina to buy all games at $5 each
worn ember
its also kinda annoying cuz you dont want to spend the money on a crate that has bad shit in it the first time
even tho your odds increase every time
worn ember
yeah, not many cool cosmetics i think rn
so didnt buy battlepass
imagine spending 150euro on battlepass to get spectre arcana
warm anchor
Dotn worry new battle pass coming!
worn ember
anotha one
warm anchor
4 a year just like apex!
worn ember
didnt it used to be like 2
warm anchor
What they are doing is bringing the minimum spending up
worn ember
or even one
warm anchor
While losing up on soem whales
So they will win out overtime
It used to be only one
With certain China tournament got another (think DAC)
worn ember
well at least its only cosmetics and minigames
warm anchor
The last mini game was dogshit
worn ember
ikr
worn ember
i saw sing play it and he was so confused lmfao
void void
Not sure where to ask this, but I run a paper server and am not happy with the offerings for vpn blocking, does anyone here use their firewall to block vpns at the network level?
golden gust
Given that public lists for that are generally kinda lacking and the # of them is probs far greater than your software level firewall will probs be happy with, no
tulip depot
I think wikimedia foundation actually has a public list of their whitelisted proxy servers, but I don't know if it's updated
what they do is they probe to see if your IP has a proxy before letting you connect
but this isn't for minecraft specifically
it's generally a hard thing to do
if you have a perfect solution the chinese government would like to talk to you
warm anchor
You have players banned by you and join back with another account?
void void
yeah, mostly just annoying when someone with 10 accounts connects from 10 different ips and trolls the server.
warm anchor
Just ban them!?
tulip depot
does this actually happen? are you in online mode?
warm anchor
They also have unlimited Mojang account?
void void
yes, online mode, happened yesterday.
tulip depot
yea just ban them or use a whitelist
void void
I did, but I was taking care of my one year old son, so it was somewhat frustrating to have to stop what I was doing to do that.
golden gust
if there is a network range in particular which is being a PITA I generally yeet them with the firewall
tulip depot
that's your fault for having a son
void void
They had completely random IPs unfortunately.
tulip depot
yea i would just whitelist it
warm anchor
Or hire an admin if you run a big network
golden gust
have also blocked entire ASNs before with the firewall
But, it's generally not a great solution given that iptables, etc, was never really designed to scale to that many rules
tulip depot
if they use e.g. AWS then you can just block all AWS IPs
golden gust
I mean, the plugins themselves are generally fine
The big issue is getting the proper lists for it
tulip depot
how big is your server?
golden gust
as the plugins are only as good at their job as the lists are
void void
Well thanks guys for weighing in, anti-vpn and anti-vpn advanced don't say they support 1.17...
tulip depot
does anything support 1.17?
void void
yes...
just not any anti-vpn plugin I know of, maybe it works, but it might not be in java 16?
tulip depot
does essentialsx let you ban cidr ranges or something?
i think there might be a development essentialsx build
and it seems like a feature they would have
void void
ranges, would not have worked yesterday, the ips were completely random, seemingly.
no numbers in common
golden gust
Well, yea, that's the entire set of issues
You've basically gotta go to ASN level if you really wanna make a dent
tulip depot
i would figure out who owns those IP addresses
is it a residential provider, a hosting provider, or maybe it's a tor exit node or something
if it is the first two, you might be able to get a list of all the IPs the provider owns, not sure though
golden gust
That's literally what ASNs are for...
void void
I like that idea, in the mean time, my crotch goblin has appeared and demanded I read them a book, so take care and thank you for your time!
tulip depot
Can you even block ASNs directly though? I thought they were only used in routing between ISPs
golden gust
No
you'd need to use a service which gives you a list of all the allocated blocks for that ASN
tulip depot
i see
golden gust
but, an ASN is what ties that all together
tulip depot
I didn't realize you could get the IP ranges from an ASN, I thought you'd have to find a list from the provider's website or something
marble lark
I think I found another mapping error with Paperweight lmao
void void
worn ember
tnx
left swift
Hangar discord isnt in community guilds?
marble lark
PR to the file to get it resolved quickly
ight
worn ember
no
Fun fact: if you kill explorer.exe and restart it discord doesnt show your status anymore
hexed kelp
just not any anti-vpn plugin I know of, maybe it works, but it might not be in j...
Gatekeeper
hexed kelp
They had completely random IPs unfortunately.
^
fossil patio
I can't speak in #swifties-club unfortunately, but i got the vinyl for the BRM album 4 days early and I'm listening to the new song with her now 
void void
Gatekeeper
Oh it works for 1.17? For w/e reason their page says only 1.16
fossil patio
nvm birch is just taylor singing backup on the chorus, unfortunate
hexed kelp
Oh it works for 1.17? For w/e reason their page says only 1.16
Yesh, I use it on my 1.17 server
viral hornet
halcyon delta
<@&748618676189528155> I’m not sure who to notify, but y’all had someone in here that was blasting my DM’s with messages about Discord Nitro
wide chasm
If you show the message with the person's id, we'll ban them.
mossy vessel
Link a screenshot in here
halcyon delta
wide chasm
!ban @merry crag Scam
thorny flickerBOT
cannot convert @!412281000844853270 to user, snowflake
golden gust
they're already yeeted
wide chasm
Oh, still showed up in members, probably cached
wispy blade
Hangar discord isnt in community guilds?
no but it's in #hangar-dev tho
mossy vessel
mbax will call their mom to ensure they get a week off of their laptop while cat takes a piss on it
halcyon delta
Thank you.
worn ember
Me: i'm on a 7 winstreak
Also me: getting carried hard by my team
magic river
PR to the file to get it resolved quickly
Just for curiousity's sake, you mean https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/build-data/reobf-mappings-patch.tiny right?
golden gust
yup
magic river
There is also https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/build-data/mappings-patch.tiny though
cosmic raft
Apple TV's player.... needs work
potent fossil
@untold copper dunno if you're still struggling with trig but i just made this anki deck if you want to learn them, 86 total cards to learn https://github.com/simpleauthority/anki-decks/tree/main/decks/math/trig_identities
enjoi
wispy blade
anki based
potent fossil
very
if anyone dl'd that, i had two of the pythagorean identity cards fucked up so re-dl lol
left swift
Ur my pythagorean theorem 
potent fossil
cute
short yarrow
What's the largest PR you guys ever reviewed? Also is there a way to do incremental PRs? Like if you're working on a big feature with thousands of lines of code, ideally those should be broken up right?
magic river
vestal jasper
RCE from a fucking printer? 
magic river
Ideally you could break things up in to scaffolding, API, implementation, etc
vestal jasper
or well the drivers
magic river
Keep things as independent as possible so they can be reviewed in chunks
short yarrow
Okay I see. Would you make separate branches for changes that can be grouped? or can you just re-use one feature branch?
magic river
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Separate commits, certainly
Separate PRs can sometimes just make things more complicated
golden gust
theres no hard and set rules and theres no real way to do "incremental PRs" without inducing overheads of "you have to merge this PR, and then this one, and then this one..."
software development is hard to manage in general and anytime somebody tries to set up a strict process on stuff it just moves the pain from one place to another
short yarrow
Oh I see. So I guess you create a PR when you have a decent amount of work. Have those changes reviewed, address comments then just continue working?
golden gust
pretty much, i guess
short yarrow
My company has its own code review system that allows for incremental changes to be reviewed. So I find it crazy how people can review massive PRs without going insane
limpid comet
Hi gnerds
golden gust
hey blué
worn ember
wtf
vestal jasper
wtf the fuck
worn ember
whomst the fok
limpid comet
hello
worn ember
shell vine
retiring from mc, thank you paper team for making everything possible and making spigot so much better
turbid oar
oof
red timber
gg
waxen panther
retiring from mc, thank you paper team for making everything possible and making...
love u bye xoxoo
shell vine
uhh burnt out from mc, been doing my server for almost ten years and its pretty dead now and i want to do work irl
twin lagoon
fair
fossil patio
what's up
fossil patio
plucky sparrow
o no
turbid oar
🤔
turbid oar
<a:thinking9000:393644938312679424>
I call this one an alt 
twin lagoon
ew paul
turbid oar
lol
fossil patio
Wow :(
quick pasture
hi
fossil patio
frichael <3
quick pasture
YES
turbid oar
3 michaels like call this the michael gang
quick pasture
turbid oar
drinking double shot starbucks white chocolate energy drink while studying redis so awesome 
turbid oar
Is it still running
side project atm
left swift
turbid oar
we creating a network atm
waxen panther
god i love michael
plucky sparrow
which
waxen panther
THE michael
plucky sparrow
ew
twin lagoon
@waxen panther 
plucky sparrow
Micaehl
void void
Interesting how there are four michaels in this discord
fossil patio
god i love michael
void void
since there can only be 10000 accts with that name
turbid oar
@twin lagoon How long did it take you to study those discord mod courses before test?
twin lagoon
yes
plucky sparrow
there is also Michael Bj
turbid oar
bj 
plucky sparrow
wonder if there's Michael Hj too
turbid oar
my monitor screen is brighter then my actually computer 
plucky sparrow
brighter than your future as well
turbid oar
lol
worn ember
void void
are those the kurtzgesagt music guys?
worn ember
ye
brave radish
I was very confused for a second there before I realize GitHub was just being dumb https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/6473/files#diff-95a4442785183cf28a25ad4f88563034d43140c1790ecf2d106ec7c0a9701fb7R6-R13
limber knotBOT
is the file2 -> file5 move intented there?
I guess that's the mentioned wrong user data folder writing
void void
- Writes userdata to the path of the userdata folder rather than to
the correct file inside the aforementioned folder. This causes the
userdata folder to fail to be created as a file already exists at
its path.
I'd assume so
vestal jasper
@twin lagoon best michael
warm anchor
@vestal jasper best josh?
vestal jasper
ez
warm anchor
One of the beest so many josh here
vestal jasper
uwu
true canyon
golden gust
waxen panther
@ electroniccat[no-ping]
warm anchor
dusk drift
funkywunks
fallen oracle
ripe sphinx
I saw this as I was taking a drink and nearly spat it out over my hw...
unkempt drift
pls say theres a link to the actual gh issue
warm anchor
@unkempt drift https://github.com/Xerasin/GCinemaCraftDownloader/issues/1
pastel pivot
I wonder how BuildTools doesn't require a JDK? It's using Maven to compile the stuff, right? I have never tested it with a JRE only, but the wiki says it should be possible.
golden gust
it uses eclipses compiler
pastel pivot
oh
toxic bone
https://www.reddit.com/r/realms/comments/pa2p54/our_realm_is_performing_terribly...
r/realms should just redirect you to server hosting sites
untold copper
<@!607087286768631818> dunno if you're still struggling with trig but i just mad...
wowowow pog
nah i did some practice of trig and discovered in most of the cases just simplify + solve according to the RHS
but thanks :3
static badge
@vestal jasper furry
static badge
is it the yellow background
vestal jasper
yeah :(
static badge
rip
cosmic raft
there is no 100% matching GH issue
closest is https://github.com/ornicar/lila/issues/5193
warm anchor
<@!338670732403933194> https://github.com/Xerasin/GCinemaCraftDownloader/issues/...
Mine is a bit older though but still not the same date 
austere ivy
dang intellij really just made "indexing" the new "waiting for compiling"
referencing this xkcd, of course https://xkcd.com/303/
turbid oar
lol
toxic bone
uwu moment
thorny rivet
I've noticed someone (manually?) removing the embeds from github links and stuff: apparently it's a permission that you can remove
magic river
Github embeds are worthless, forcing you to leave them in would just discourage posting links to things on github
Ok, links to issues can be useful to see the title but links to files and such just show the generic project name embed
formal turret
oh hell yea spiderman
vestal temple
Whats the best way to advertisement a game project these days
warm anchor
do a good job of it is a good start
formal turret
have a bunch of money to advertise it
or getting 'lucky' on reddit and a bunch of people definitely by very organic means upvote your post
worthy geode
You can get legit lucky, happened to Manor lords. But its really rare
warm anchor
having good fundamental is also important
if the game is shit
even if discovered, people will still lose interest fast
formal turret
and if you have no means of getting your name out there it doesn't matter how good it is
luck is a large component for people with no audience
worthy geode
I personally also think that good visuals (e.g. nice artstyle, not necessarily from a technical standpoint) are important, as most people will look at your promo for like 3 seconds and visuals is all they will see
golden gust
I mean, it's a mixture of marketing + luck
warm anchor
Most of people I know in dev space has some sort of connection already in a sense
formal turret
to other devs or people with large audiences?
limpid comet
I've seen a lot of new indie devs advertising on tiktok
So, that might be a good place to start
There's a lot of game devlog-style tiktok accounts and people seem to enjoy that
warm anchor
to other devs or people with large audiences?
idk how to describe it. Like I know certain peopl who's the go to person to cut into a community etc
formal turret
oh
nimble depot
Someone ping me please (need to test something)
formal turret
@nimble depot
nimble depot
<@!346026244220911619>
Thanks. That was actually too loud
formal turret
oh sorry i'll try and be quieter next time
nimble depot
Trying to run discord in kubernetes on local machine and electron apps don't like when you do that
potent fossil
nah i did some practice of trig and discovered in most of the cases just simplif...
Nice. But ngl I'd learn all the identities anyway and get solid at them, it'll help you a lot of you plan to take calculus
austere ivy
would a pr to enable allow-flight by default be a good idea?
serene bolt
is there a particular reason?
austere ivy
it has quite a lot of false positives and tends to interrupt normal gameplay whenever it seemingly randomly decides to go off
then again, in a public server, you'd probably want it enabled rather than disabled as a protection against hackers, but even then it doesn't work very well at that
limpid comet
i would love that
austere ivy
just an idea /shrug
limpid comet
i've only ever had it cause issues
coarse lily
I will say I don't think I've ever set it to anything but the default false and I've never had any issues.
But I don't use modified clients.
warm anchor
People with really shitty connections are the one that will have issues
limpid comet
unrelated to paper but try playing any modded games with allow-flight: false
limpid comet
yea ik its a different beast
silver nexus
my friends have issues due to bad wifi
austere ivy
But I don't use modified clients.
neither do the people who play on my paper (+geyser but they're not running on it)-only server, and they've still been randomly kicked from it
limpid comet
definitely had weird interactions with plugins that would cause kicks with that on off (i keep saying on, sorry) though
coarse lily
Are you running a bunch of modded stuff?
silver nexus
im on ethernet so i rarely have issues
limpid comet
its not like it stops flight
warm anchor
I have mine set to true
austere ivy
it seems to just be people with bad connection, yeah, but that's because I assume it just checks if you've been in the air for an abnormal amount of time
warm anchor
coz the only instance of it interacts is when it kicks people off riding horse and/or scaffolding
coarse lily
I only ever use my super computer running on a fibre connection to the server.
limpid comet
i believe it
austere ivy
it doesn't work well enough to suffice as an anticheat, and it works poorly enough that it adversely affects players running on normal, unmodified clients
I wouldn't be opposed to it being false by default is all
warm anchor
You can create an issue and give your argument and see what the maintainers want 😮
warm anchor
hi new here it's me EterNity
silver nexus
lol
warm anchor
may wanna check your network
or stop that special stuff from downloading while you launch the server
quaint totem
Network....
austere ivy
You can create an issue and give your argument and see what the maintainers want...
ooo sounds spooky maybe I will
warm anchor
ooo sounds spooky maybe I will
I did a similar thing like yesterday lol I genuinely think it should be true on this one 
https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/6471
quaint totem
:3
warm anchor
network usage 0%
not saying you should check usage, I mean that check your network as it may be blocked somewhere
Are you from mainland China? then that's very likely the case
warm anchor
Find better VPN or move to a better country that doesnt control their citizen's internet usage. That's your two choices
warm anchor
the 3rd option is to soruce the vanilla jar from torrent but the risk is there
that process is just downloading the vanilla jar
so if you can acquire it somewhere that's "safe" you can do that yourself.
and drop them to the corresponding folders
quaint totem
i have a question
if i download in advance
download vanilla jar
from other website
and then
i put it in cache folder
warm anchor
naming should be mojang_version
ashen cliff
naming should be **mojang_version**
So, like that:
https://posili.me/i/2021-08-24_07-14-56.png
chrome quest
Anyone know of a plugin that listens for all items that get deleted, and then lets you buy it from the server for like dirt cheap? Maybe prices varying based on quantity.
ashen cliff
Anyone know of a plugin that listens for all items that get deleted, and then le...
That is such a niche thing, that I'm 100% sure, no public plugin exists for that.
warm anchor
you can hire a dev to do it for you (not here though)
you can put in like 500~1000 hours learning java then make it yes.
whichever is cheaper for you!
south matrix
that's a lot of hours
chrome quest
Where would devs for hire be hiding?
grand pewter
spigot forum has something for it i think
warm anchor
you can look for them either spigot or HelpChat Discord
2nd link in #community-guilds
lavish compass
I would recommend looking at their public projects/portfolio first
ashen cliff
you can put in like 500~1000 hours learning java then make it yes.
If you know basic programming, at least basic OOP and know how to copy code, 10 hours should be enough.
warm anchor
The dude doenst look like he knows how to open a browser so yeah
Additional hours added for it
wispy blade
true
ashen cliff
I have found another thing I need, right after big Fumo.
wispy blade
what is it bro?
ashen cliff
This:
https://www.redbubble.com/i/duffle-bag/SS13-Syndicate-by-Naloac/81877680.TZ9LO
and/or this
https://www.redbubble.com/i/duffle-bag/SS13-Nanotrasen-by-Naloac/81928597.TZ9LO
wispy blade
yeah, fair enough
ashen cliff
Good bro.
wispy blade
bro. all i need in life, is to get this to work bro.
really hope it runs ootb with wine
ashen cliff
It better.
wispy blade
bro. game is older than me.
ashen cliff
Still updated tho. 
ashen cliff
No bully.