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wispy blade
ashen cliff
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Thanks for letting me know that exists.

true canyon
wispy blade
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mcafee enterprise 2012 flags o2jam as a virus cuz of an audio library kekwhyper

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then moves 10GB of files into quarantine

full rune
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why would you have mcafee installed anyways

wispy blade
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dude who fixed my pc 2 years ago installed it and i've been too lazy to remove it

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still on the same windows install btw.

warm anchor
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Here’s the thing

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You can’t remove mcafee PepeLa

wispy blade
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he removed himself tho

ashen cliff
wispy blade
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nooo

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my dum will immediately show the moment i head in there

ashen cliff
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Already did.

wispy blade
ashen cliff
wispy blade
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6,7kb/s, lightning fast bro!

ashen cliff
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Should have used the CLI tool.

wispy blade
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is this what it feels like to be balkan?

ashen cliff
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Even slower bro!

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Like 1,5kb/s is super speed.

wispy blade
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it's going DE speeds now

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3 MB/s

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yes i will take every opportunity i get to make fun of germany internet

ashen cliff
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We already have cable internet, no need to lay down any fiber.

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Don't worry about it being unstable tho. That's normal.

wispy blade
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my laptop is trying to cook my thigh

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the thing is, i'm in NL kekw

untold copper
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i see ok

wispy blade
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average NL speeds :)

ashen cliff
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🇹🇷 🦾

ashen cliff
marble lark
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y'all know if Fabric has a convenient utility to merge patches

coarse lily
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What?

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Do people here use Fabric?

ashen cliff
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The Fabric support Discord is two blocks down.

marble lark
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I'm trying to merge 2 patches with Paperweight

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Paperweight uses some of Fabric's libraries from what I remember

golden gust
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fabric is irrelevant here

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git rebase -i base

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find the patch you wanna merge into the other patch

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move that line to just below the patch you wanna "merge" that into, and change "pick" into "f"; save the file and exit

marble lark
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not exactly what I meant either but I already found another solution

delicate gorge
marble lark
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?

untold copper
delicate gorge
marble lark
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not sure what you mean, that's Paperweight, Paper's Gradle Plugin that handles Minecraft deobfuscation, and it's written in Kotlin

delicate gorge
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Thanks

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That's what I meant thank you

ashen cliff
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Still my favorite. kekwhyper

plucky sparrow
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mega is fast for me

ashen cliff
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How fast?

plucky sparrow
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way better than 3mbps for sure

wispy blade
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at home, same

little frost
worn ember
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5

twin lagoon
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what version

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because you're not getting 1000 players on one instance 1.17

coarse lily
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For 1000 players?

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You need like 16 servers.

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What version?

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!whichhost

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!!whichhost

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F;efjsfs

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This isn't the rights server.

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Haha

serene bolt
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./startOracle.sh

coarse lily
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DAMN IT PURE

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With like a Ryzen 5950x or a 2288G you can run like maybe 100 people on a server depending on plugins.

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There's really no hard number. It depends on the plugins and setup and server type.

plucky sparrow
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what am I seeing

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is that

coarse lily
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But if you want 1000 players you need a lot of servers.

plucky sparrow
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windows server?

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oh no

coarse lily
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You don't want to run Minecraft on Windows server.

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1000 what.

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1000 what per player? 1000 blocks? 1000 kittens?

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No, it can't.

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Because of the limitations of thermodynamics.

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And mobs.

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And Sweden.

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If you get a 2288G or a 5950x - the best CPUs currently available for Minecraft - on 1.17 you could maybe run 100 people, depending on the setup.

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For 1000 users you'd need 11 servers.

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There is no single server that can run 1000 people.

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So if you got like 11 5950x boxes from Hetzner you'd pay like $1500/mo.

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Just in servers.

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Get a better host, use Linux instead of Windows, and be okay with having 50-70 players.

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If you expand more then get another server. Repeat.

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Even if you could support 1000 players it's hard to get 50 people to play.

worn crest
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yeah ubuntu, debian both good

coarse lily
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Yep, Ubuntu is a good choice.

pallid raptor
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Hey all

void void
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Heya

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migration cape incoming

toxic bone
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i migrated an alt to my microsoft account without realizing I can only have one account linked

quasi valley
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You can contact MS support and move it to another account afaik

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or Xbox support or whatever you have to go for

void void
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i have 2 accounts to migrate

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i also have 2 ms accounts which i dont use for anything else

pallid raptor
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I really like how Gyser is supported won’t lie

toxic bone
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gyeer

void void
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migration cape looks really cool

ashen cliff
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No, I don't think so. kekwhyper

void void
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non-elytra version

ashen cliff
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I just dislike how simple it is.

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Even the classic Mojang one is somehow less simple.

marble lark
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.-.

hoary patio
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I have a problem is about TPS . TPS is so low but when I open the chest I didn't feel lag and type command is so fast . No Lag but when I attack entity is very lag . Who can help me to solve the problem ? TPS picture is green .

void void
void void
ashen cliff
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I don't even want to check for my accounts... need that Mojang auth for some stuff.

marble lark
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and then they'll just delete it regardless

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irrational fear i know

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but that's what happens when you have an anxiety disorder

ashen cliff
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If you want that, wait like 5 years.

marble lark
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irrational fears aside 5 years seems a bit long for account migration

ashen cliff
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They still support migrating legacy accounts and that's like more than 5 years. kekwhyper

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So no need to worry about that.

fiery orbit
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Looks like I'm gonna lose my username if I migrate my account. Someone is already using my current username as a gamertag which sucks

void void
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I don't think it changes your name to your gamertag

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not sure because my gamertag is the same as my ign

twin lagoon
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xbox gamertag has nothing to do with your mc username

fiery orbit
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I might have misunderstood this prompt. Thought it meant that it will use the gamertag from now on but if not, that's cool :P

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I'm so not used to Microsoft accounts

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Like that one time when it took me a full hour to login to Teams kekwhyper

tropic flame
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JohnSon Object Notation

void void
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But it won't be changed according to the FAQ

fiery orbit
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That's good to know, thanks!

topaz mortar
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Could be an improvement to add an additional field.

GamerTag: xxx
MC IGN: original

little frost
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are you suggesting UX to a process which everybody is confused by?

topaz mortar
pallid raptor
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I wonder if there’s a faction plugin that actually works...

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I’m running 1.17 and any like Saber, HCF etc just don’t work sadly

marble lark
brave mountain
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Hi, I'm looking for a b460 mATX motherboard for running a 24/7 Minecraft server

marble lark
pallid raptor
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I mean I’m not too sure

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I went from 1.17.1 to 1.17

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And I installed a factions plugin and it seems to work fine no huge clump of red text

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I spoke too soon

ashen cliff
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Plus some good VRM cooling.

brave mountain
native wolf
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Paper remaps and reobfs the jar on build

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It's compatible with NMS plugins

marble lark
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there's still countless fields and methods that fail to be remapped back to Spigot names that haven't been discovered yet

wispy blade
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cuz spigot mappings are incomplete kekw

marble lark
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there's several filtering and cleanup operations involving both jars and actual Java source files

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haven't been able to figure it out up till now kekw

solid sapphire
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hello

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i am back

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actually back 4 hours ago but took a nap

vernal moth
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It's because special source is broken and spigot remaps stuff wrong, especially around synrtics

wispy blade
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goes to board game store
they just sold out of shogi boards

native wolf
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SpecialSource is dumb as hell

solid sapphire
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whats a comment in grade .properties again

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i forgot

marble lark
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SpecialSource?

vernal moth
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Spigots remapping tool

marble lark
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I thought Paperweight uses ForgeFlower and a fork of Fabric's remapper

vernal moth
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What we use the cadix libs for

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Forge flower is the decompiler, spigot uses a different fernflower fork, but that's unrelated

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Am not sure if we use any fabric tools actually?

marble lark
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My mistake y'all use Mercury as the remapper lol

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odd that Spigot's upstream tools also affect Paperweight though I thought the issue was just messy mappings in general

marble lark
vernal moth
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Nah our mapping to Mojang are perfect

warm anchor
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No

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Mini you are perfect BlushHug

vernal moth
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Our mappings to spigot are a clusterfuck cause spigots mappings to obf are a mess

wispy blade
vernal moth
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And yeah, we only use quilts fork of Lorenz tiny, basically an extension to Lorenz so it can read the tiny format which fabric uses to ship their mappings

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So we can load param mappings

marble lark
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at least until you explained it

marble lark
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makes you wonder how they figured out what name is what in the first place

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given that they don't use the official Mojang names at least

vernal moth
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Most of the names came from Bukkit people

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There is a bit of guessing involved, but in recent years it was pretty apparent that MD had access to Mojang mappings and just based his name's off of that

marble lark
vernal moth
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Bukkit was a team effort

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Plus both mcp and yarn did the same again later

marble lark
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wasn't mcp done by a Mojang employee or something

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can't remember

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yarn is also pretty impressive too

native wolf
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Searge created MCP iirc

marble lark
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^'

magic river
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The Mojang employee part came later

warm anchor
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It’s old man Amaranth story time? Hype

marble lark
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oh

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ight

ashen cliff
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Remember watching DireWolf20 back in the day, and you just heard the Forge people ya yeet to Mojang.

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Still no modding API.

marble lark
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which to be honest is a pretty smart move since they don't have to spend time making it themselves I guess

ionic island
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magic river
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Forge has little API and what they do have has breaking changing every Minecraft release

marble lark
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I'm just happy we even have a reliable framework/loader (Paper/Spigot/Forge) to build mods against really

magic river
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By design they mostly only have API around the pieces mods often conflict

marble lark
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cough bedrock edition

native wolf
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They are working on a modding API since like 2013 lmao

marble lark
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they released javascript modding for bedrock some time ago

twin lagoon
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there's a modding api

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just not in java

marble lark
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pretty recent I think

native wolf
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Is that the MoLang shit

marble lark
magic river
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bedrock has a modding API

twin lagoon
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sure

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it's better than mc functions

marble lark
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I dunno I prefer Forge and Paper

marble lark
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just command blocks but better and more portable

twin lagoon
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they're pretty much "modding" tools or as close as we can get to modding tools on java

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since you use them extensively in datapacks

marble lark
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I don't really consider them as such

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let's be honest though with the release of the obfuscation maps in 1.14

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pretty clear Mojang is lazy to do it themselves lol

quasi valley
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they weren't released in 1.14

marble lark
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i forgot the exact version they came out in but yeah

quasi valley
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and why would they do it themselves

marble lark
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that's... kinda what I've been saying?

magic river
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They were giving me the mappings in like 1.4 😛

marble lark
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?

magic river
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I still think that's how srg mappings were updated too

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They said they had some secret tooling to try to identify methods across versions but if they had mojang's mappings it would be a fairly trivial operation

marble lark
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that's like trying to retrieve C source from a compiled executable

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too much information is lost after it gets obfuscated

quasi valley
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not really, just look at yarn

marble lark
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yeah them having Mojang mapping access sounds more likely

marble lark
magic river
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You could probably get 50-75% of the methods and classes via searching for similar bytecode

marble lark
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oh

magic river
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I think that's what the tools we had were like

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They only worked for one update though, they'd be failing a little more every update since before I started apparently

marble lark
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not gonna question how bytecode searching like that is implemented xd

ashen cliff
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CTRL + F. kekwhyper

marble lark
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!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!

pallid raptor
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What’s better paper or forge?

warm anchor
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They serve different purposes so your question makes little sense

marble lark
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Paper is geared towards high performance and ease of writing plugins for (The last point is a design philosophy of it's predecessor, Bukkit)

ashen cliff
marble lark
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Forge is more focused on letting you do whatever you want to the base Minecraft files, but at the expense of being much harder to work with

marble lark
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i forgot which one

quasi valley
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Neither

magic river
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Sponge is Bukkit 2.0, optionally built on top of Forge

marble lark
# pallid raptor What’s better paper or forge?

technically that would mean Forge is a better modding tool if you know what you're doing, but Paper will always perform much better due to how optimized it is and will also be vastly easier to write plugins (Or Mods if you call them that) for

magic river
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It's not even close to Bukkit compatible, API is very different

ashen cliff
marble lark
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to be honest I'm kind of wishing Paper would PR their optimizations to Mojang lmaoo

magic river
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err

marble lark
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yeah I know that's never going to happen

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still though

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one can hope for a faster Minecraft client

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xd

quasi valley
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good thing Paper doesn’t actually improve client performance

marble lark
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Integrated Server would definitely benefit from some of them though no?

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y'all should apply for a job at Mojang and rewrite the renderer without them knowing C:

quasi valley
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I don’t think anyone here knows how to write good and better rendering pepela

magic river
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Tried that once

magic river
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Also they kind of already did rewrite it

pallid raptor
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I’ll stick with paper

warm anchor
marble lark
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or did I remember wrong

void void
magic river
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afaik 1.17 is an OpenGL 3.3 core profile renderer, fully shader driven

pallid raptor
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Ima go find some useful server plugins for 1.17 cya

marble lark
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oh wait that would require Mojang to update from Java 8

native wolf
quasi valley
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I wouldn’t let a furry anywhere near rendering code

marble lark
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y'all got any performance boosts from 1.17?

native wolf
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I get worse fps on 1.17 actually

marble lark
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I was aware of the shader update but when i tested it didn't improve my fps

marble lark
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it's supposed to improve frame rate

wide chasm
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I can't compare - I have to play on a different device, since my old device can no longer play Minecraft on 1.17.

ashen cliff
wide chasm
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I may switch it to Linux someday actually, so worth a try when I do that

magic river
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afaik it's still basically rendering everything the same way, just with shaders and them converting blocks to triangles themselves instead of a GL utility doing it (both on the CPU)

marble lark
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only explaination I can think of is Mojang only wrote it to use programmable shaders but are still using the old default shaders

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oh looks like I guessed right

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(both on the CPU)
Biggest Mojang bruh moment

magic river
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No, you really didn't, there is no such thing as "old default shaders" 😛

marble lark
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well you get what I mean xd

magic river
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Converting blocks to triangles on the GPU is a dumber idea than doing it on the CPU

marble lark
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eh?

magic river
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Just wanted to make clear that them doing it in their own code wasn't any different from what libGL was doing before

marble lark
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hm

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I genuinely thought switching to the GPU for all graphics related operations was better

magic river
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To convert blocks to triangles on the GPU you'd have to use a geometry shader and you'd have a lot of overdraw from duplicate triangles because you couldn't do any culling or mesh simplification

marble lark
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since from what I remember the issue is Minecraft does a lot of rendering operations on the CPU

magic river
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Geometry shaders generally don't exist on mobile and suck ass everywhere else

marble lark
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oof

marble lark
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xd

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man imagine what performance would be like on Vulkan + Panama

untold copper
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day #78 of trying to get abs: I did a 50 minute upper body + core workout today. I want to die. I had forgotten in how long i had not done an upper body workout. My arms are having a heart attack.

twin lagoon
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day #78 of trying to get abs

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gonna go grab a piece of cherry cheesecake

magic river
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Performance might actually improve with vulkan since part of their problem is they're doing so many draw calls

untold copper
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gotta-

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stop

marble lark
magic river
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Every chunk section is a separate draw call

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Or was last time I looked at it

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This is probably the best way to do it, problem is chunk sections are too small 😛

marble lark
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you know what? that actually makes sense

untold copper
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@twin lagoon

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too much sugar.

marble lark
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through stress tests I do on occasion Minecraft can handle the highest graphics settings I throw at it

untold copper
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gotta. control.

marble lark
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but the moment chunk render distance goes up

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Minecraft dies internally

magic river
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You wouldn't want to draw a whole chunk at a time since that would mean changing a block there requires rebuilding a chunk-sized mesh

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It's a tradeoff between mesh update time and number of draw calls

olive marlin
marble lark
void void
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day #🇽🇩 part 23 of trying to get abs:
And I would roll 500 miles
And I would roll 500 more
Just to be the man who rolls a thousand miles
To fall down at your door

twin lagoon
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i have acquired pie

magic river
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Vulkan sidesteps the problem by making the draw calls have way less overhead but even there we'd probably be better off with 32x32x32 chunk sections

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That's a pretty large change to all of MC to do something like that though

quasi valley
twin lagoon
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god woke up one day and invented cherries

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and it is the best thing that has existed so far

marble lark
ashen cliff
warm anchor
twin lagoon
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cherry !

ashen cliff
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Good.

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Epic.

marble lark
ashen cliff
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Everything is better than 🍓.

olive marlin
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Wtf @ashen cliff ?

quasi valley
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Alright stop right there, krusic

olive marlin
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Strawberry epic.

quasi valley
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Blasphemy is not allowed on this discord

royal kernel
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Strawberry's are good

left swift
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Ban kennytv

olive marlin
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Raspberry is 🤮

marble lark
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strawberries are awful when sour and great when sweet lol

left swift
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We want knenytv back

olive marlin
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Yeah, you can't just get random strawberries.

marble lark
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but for some reason 9/10 berries I eat are sour as fuck though

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:C

olive marlin
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The same with tomatoes - you either buy cheap ones which are only water, or get decent ones which actually have taste.

marble lark
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i think i got ripped off every time I bought strawberries

wispy blade
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strawberry in pastry: very epic
strawberry in candy/ice cream: horrible

olive marlin
royal kernel
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All my strawberry's go bad after I buy them 😦

ashen cliff
marble lark
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they're great in ice cream

wispy blade
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no

marble lark
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!?

quasi valley
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fruit flavored food

wispy blade
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tastes like sugar more than strawberry

olive marlin
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Oh, yeah. Strawberry flavor is bad. Especially in drinks.

twin lagoon
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strawberry icecream is shit brother

plucky sparrow
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Strawberries are disgusting

marble lark
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:C

twin lagoon
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cherry yoghurt icecream however

wispy blade
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allow me to introduce you to the realm of quality ice cream

plucky sparrow
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Pistachio ice cream is top

wispy blade
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dont forget cookie ice cream

marble lark
wispy blade
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yes

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straciatella also epic

plucky sparrow
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Reminder that some people somehow like lemon ice cream

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True psychopaths

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A threat to society

royal kernel
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Strawberry thick-shakes 😋

wispy blade
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wtf

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lemon ice cream is good

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depending on where you get it

plucky sparrow
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No it’s not

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Like

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Never

magic river
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lemon ice is good, lemon ice cream is not

twin lagoon
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reminder that some people somehow like chocolate ice cream (vanilla + chocolate pieces etc a la stracciatella, ok)

plucky sparrow
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I used to like chocolate ice cream

twin lagoon
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and coffee icecream

warm anchor
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lemon sorbet is good

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Sorbet is not same as ice cream

twin lagoon
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@warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor

warm anchor
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@twin lagoon AYAYARie

quasi valley
twin lagoon
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kenny you weeb

olive marlin
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@twin lagoon kabanos ice cream??

twin lagoon
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that sounds disgusting

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where can i try it

ashen cliff
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Should be easy to find next to a meat processing plant sewage system. kekwhyper

marble lark
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speak of the devil

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i was talking about microsoft accounts just now and 2 minutes ago i got the notification to migrate

vernal moth
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They double capacity today

waxen panther
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is there a way to check if you can migrate without the vanilla client

void void
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it'll show up there

waxen panther
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thank

olive marlin
waxen panther
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yee my alt can migrate now too

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thats nice, will do it

worn ember
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ya'll are getting migrations?

waxen panther
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ugh but i have to build the multimc update

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fucking void

twin lagoon
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zzzz void

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multimc building shouldn't take that long if you've got the right flags

quasi valley
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zzzz multimc

waxen panther
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i dont have any flags set am lazy

void void
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so choose carefully

twin lagoon
untold copper
waxen panther
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its ok i already have 100 alt microsoft accounts

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years of smurfing in destiny

untold copper
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*stabs prof*

untold copper
quasi valley
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🍫

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is great

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you know what, time for cholocate

untold copper
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*stabs kenny*

quasi valley
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||cholocate is chocolate but even better||

ashen cliff
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Better tell us what brand of 🍫.

quasi valley
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you better tell me

untold copper
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*literally kills the whole server*

ashen cliff
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Gorenjka brother!

warm anchor
untold copper
waxen panther
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nvm michale void based

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just needed a -j16 on xbps-src 👼

brave mountain
ashen cliff
brave mountain
ashen cliff
magic river
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Is that Prudence?

solid sapphire
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ah yes

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the original name

pallid raptor
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Soooo I figured out why Saber factions wouldn’t work

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I didn’t have the vault plugin installed

wispy blade
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good for you

ashen cliff
pallid raptor
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Wow the paper.ylm file comes with a lot of config... Gotta love how you can make a cactus grow up to 500 blocks high

wispy blade
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yo, o2jam is installing? pog?

pallid raptor
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Coggers

wispy blade
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extracting 7gb of charts kekwhyper

pallid raptor
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Kekw

wispy blade
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and it runs really well on my shit laptop, gaming

plucky sparrow
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p

wispy blade
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dude

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o2jam banger game

plucky sparrow
#

i've been playing destiny 2 recently and dam

marble lark
#

from the Hangar discord but rip

true canyon
#

Works in incognito 🥳

full rune
#

works completely fine in my browser without incognito

true canyon
#

Ah yes, the "npm is a house of cards where each card is its own house of cards" story.

magic river
#

npm doesn't let you actually yank things anymore, does it?

#

I mean, you can block it from showing on the UI and API but the actual file still exists for anyone with a lock file

true canyon
marble lark
magic river
#

Sure, that's standard semver stuff

#

Even maven lets you do that 😛

marble lark
#

if you could yank it like this guy did a hacker could replace your package with their own one

#

and you know what happens after that

magic river
#

Err, that was to mbax, you just said the same thing I said

marble lark
#

oh

#

yeah i was talking to him

#

well before he sent that

pallid raptor
#

Anyone know of any good skyblock/skywars plugins?

vernal moth
#

I bet google knows

pallid raptor
#

Yeah probably lmao

#

There’s just so many haha

olive marlin
#

PyPi let's you delete versions, but still can't upload new package with same version number.

void void
#

Survival is boring tbh

untold copper
#

Just made the admins pin this message in the minecraft channel. Context: you have to host a minecraft server for a bunch of 10 15 year olds.

#

pls suggest ways of making it more humiliating kekw

ashen cliff
#

Daily reminder to only have email support. kekwhyper

olive marlin
#

Daily reminder to have your support channel muted.

ashen cliff
olive marlin
#

Show AuthMe discord man.

marble lark
void void
#

Since when does discord hide muted channels?

#

That's a setting nvm

ashen cliff
olive marlin
#

That's how you do it Bro!

ashen cliff
#

That's why we have sulu as dedicated support.

#

Never used AuthMe, still best helper.

untold copper
royal kernel
#

I dont understand what AuthMe does

#

I just use online mode lol

ashen cliff
#

2FA bro!

olive marlin
royal kernel
#

But it does not stop me from stealing Dreams account, I dont get what it is supposed to do

ashen cliff
#

Just hit them with that noreply@<domain>.<tld>.

wispy blade
#

truee

royal kernel
#

Or is it meant to be If I steal Technoblade, no one else can use Technoblade?

void void
#

It asks you a password when signing in from a new ip

#

so no one can impersonate you in offline mode

#

(or as extra security in online mode I guess)

royal kernel
#

Your Mojang account password?

void void
#

no

mossy vessel
#

Yes Kappa

void void
void void
royal kernel
#

I dont understand AuthMe lol, I just use online mode to secure my servers

mossy vessel
#

Literally has no relation to it

void void
#

if it were to use the mojang password :P

mossy vessel
#

AuthMe-TOTP soon_tm

#

I didn't buy the game but I have several hardware authenticator devices

wispy blade
#

like authme users know how to use authentication devices in the first place

void void
#

This missing space is pissing me off >:(

#

Literally unusable

pallid raptor
#

So that sucks a lot kekw

marble lark
#

speaking of which they really need to update the paperweight example

blazing quarry
#

can i ask a stupid question

ashen cliff
#

Already did.

blazing quarry
#

when i connect to a private ip address do i need to open the port?

ashen cliff
#

Yes*.

blazing quarry
#

oh, okay

ashen cliff
#

*Usually you don't run firewalls on local networks.

#

So probably not.

tropic flame
#

yesterday a friend tried to host a server for other game and they gave me 192.168.0.21 to connect with 0_KEKDisco

blazing quarry
#

lol

#

wait a minute i just realized the servers have different public addresses

#

so the local thing won't work... i think

#

it's weird, they're supposed to be on the same network

#

but they have assigned different IPs

warm anchor
#

what's weird about it?

blazing quarry
#

can you share a local network and still have different public IP addresses?

ashen cliff
#

Yes.

#

The public IP is up to the NAT to decide.

blazing quarry
#

Ok I see

#

So I'm trying to run a proxy server with different IP addresses and for that I need to open ports

#

how can I open the ports but still prevent players from logging in directly on the backend servers? cause i want them to log in via the proxy

ashen cliff
#

Firewall.

#

Only allow connections to the backend server from the proxy IP.

blazing quarry
#

Oh that sounds simple

pallid raptor
#

And if your rules don’t work your firewall won’t work properly

#

So then it’s an compromised network

#

Or can be

#

Just don’t fuck up your rules and you’ll be good

#

Simplest way I could put it

blazing quarry
#

I see

#

In oracle cloud we have this thing called ingress rules

#

it's pretty simple

cursive osprey
#

Is something already ported from Tuinity to PaperMC?

mossy vessel
potent fossil
#

whats the goto for anti grief while griefprevention is still being updated by robo

#

(1.17)

#

i know absolutely nothing anymore

#

grief specifically being claiming land so ppl cant modify it w/o your permission, i know there are other types of grief so wanna be specific

worthy geode
#

Grief defender? It's basically the same but more modern in general

potent fossil
#

ah

#

cool thanks

marble lark
#

if you mean whether Tuinity is merging with Paper (Or more accurately transferring all its optimizations to Paper) the answer is yes, Spottedleaf is trying to push his work back to Paper

#

its going to take a while before it actually happens though

potent fossil
#

a few things already have been merged back upstream

lilac wharf
#

Anyone use WorldGuard plots up in here?

marble lark
potent fossil
#

yea, the plan is to merge all tuinity into paper (iirc, someone can correct me) but that is still wip. but before all of this, some of it has already come up to paper such as no tick view distance

golden gust
#

I have an idea to massively improve server performance

#

runs

limber knotBOT
#

lmao

mossy vessel
#

I see nothing that can go wrong

wide chasm
#

Finally the solution for stable 20 TPS

#

No need to merge Tuinity anymore /s

formal turret
#

just run an anarchy server

royal kernel
#

I love LTT

limber knotBOT
#

I wasn't really a fan in the past but the "new" beard convinced me 👀

#

pretty cool tech

limber knotBOT
#

now someone only needs to figure out a way to use it to mine crypto thinksmart

#

also wouldn't relativity break the time card? thonk

ashen cliff
#

People already mine on network cards. kekwhyper

#

FPGA based ones.

worn ember
#

is there a way to check who made a change in a commit while in the merge view in intellij? Some code vanished and i'd like to know who yeeted it and what commit

unkempt drift
#

you should be able to see git history for a file

coarse lily
#

Server very fast.

unkempt drift
#

am starting a pro-environment server

#

no players to harm the wildlife or ruin the natural terrain

wispy blade
#

how are you supposed to get wood then thonk

#

ig villages

unkempt drift
#

no no, no players at all

#

they would just colonize the villages

#

max player count of 0

wispy blade
#

also new @mental meadow pfp pretty epic and cute

mental meadow
#

Thank you 🥰🥰

warm anchor
golden gust
#

back off! I wanna head pat first!

wispy blade
#

too late

#

i did it first

golden gust
#

w0w

wispy blade
#

:)

golden gust
#

you, me

#

post covid

#

We shall attend some form of con

#

and uno v uno

wispy blade
#

ok

#

sure

#

hmu when that happens

plucky sparrow
#

uno

#

dos

#

tres

#

cuatro

warm anchor
#

The discord size doesnt do its justice

plucky sparrow
#

cinco

warm anchor
#

it is REALLY cute

wispy blade
#

true

#

alright before my dad gets angry at me imma head out

#

gn eu peeps

mental meadow
#

I'm so happy with it 😭

worn crest
#

so good that pic

spiral robin
#

@mental meadow panda_blush peepoheart

mental meadow
plucky sparrow
#

there’s people

#

that put goddamn ketchup on their pancakes

#

i want to die

magic river
#

lol, someone on reddit complaining desktop safari doesn't support touch events

#

desktop safari doesn't run on devices with touch screens...

vernal moth
#

but maaah hackintosh

#

and can't you use your ipad as second screen too?

plucky sparrow
#

Yes you can

#

It’s pretty cool actually

#

It will emulate a Touch Bar on the iPad

vernal moth
#

so I feel like that reddit post is fine then

olive marlin
plucky sparrow
#

No ketchup is disgusting

#

It’s a disgrace

olive marlin
#

Just - that's a different pancake recipe.

#

It is very epic.

novel herald
#

Hello, can't wait to see the improvement of Paper because I heard that Tuinity dev joined the Paper devteam

coarse lily
#

Leaf is really gonna bring this place down, man.

warm anchor
magic river
#

👨 🐺 🤢

warm anchor
waxen panther
novel herald
toxic bone
novel herald
#

😢

red timber
#

on T2 machines, sidecar video stream runs through the T2 to ipad iirc

#

literally a black box

potent fossil
#

It's airplay

#

The iPad presents itself as an airplay monitor and Mac just uses it

red timber
#

hmm

plucky sparrow
#

I used to be able to use sidecar but now I get a black screen

#

I'm guessing I'm just missing some kext

zenith gust
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWzDmaqbGkE how tf is something like this possible??

golden gust
#

trivial

toxic bone
#

any alternatives to griefprevention?

worthy geode
#

Grief Defender

void void
#

Tbh survival is boring

ashen cliff
#

What is wrong with GP?

#

Other than Robo. kekwhyper

twin lagoon
#

KRUSIC!

#

BRO!

ashen cliff
#

BRO!

toxic bone
#

minecraft is only fun on multiplayer

ashen cliff
#

Just open to lan bro!

worn ember
toxic bone
#

thanks!

worn ember
#

I think red protect is also a thing but that might just be me being stupid

pallid raptor
#

I an absolutely terrible at building lol

unkempt drift
#

you know one way to guarantee you never improve at something?

#

not doing it 🙂

pallid raptor
#

I am doing it

worn ember
#

Do it harder

pallid raptor
#

Building an island rn that’s floating

#

For my hub

#

I did this for my factions spawn

#

Sorry for the blurry top image

worn ember
#

i mean, its not horrible so thats something

toxic bone
#

you can press f2 to take a screenshot

pallid raptor
#

I’m using a bedrock client on my Java server

#

Thanks to geyser

toxic bone
#

omg your name is an osu reference

golden gust
#

pretty sure every mobile OS these days has means to screen shot

pallid raptor
golden gust
#

Nor do we really all that much care what people do on their servers

#

oof

#

i thought they had a thing for it too

pallid raptor
#

I’m literally playing Java on my bedrock client on my Xbox

golden gust
#

and?

pallid raptor
#

After saving

#

All that just for a screen shot

worn ember
#

thats why you use image utils

#

except that dun work on xbox fuck

pallid raptor
#

Nah I’ll just stick to using my IPhone SE Camera for discord pictures

worn ember
#

conclusion: xbox bad

pallid raptor
#

Conclusion: Xbox screen shot system bad*

#

The rest are pretty good

toxic bone
#

conclusion: everyone should buy a 3ds and wii u

worn ember
#

imagine buying nintendo products

#

i'd rather jump off a wall and break my leg

toxic bone
#

nintendo fans are the most oppressed group of people

pallid raptor
#

Imagine paying for Nintendo games

toxic bone
#

guys this is blue frogette

worn ember
#

opressed? most entitled you mean

pallid raptor
#

😂

toxic bone
#

what do you have against nintendo?

worn ember
#

idk, maybe the fact they sued a minecraft mod, or literally anything that they can

golden gust
#

Nintendo are literally ass hats

pallid raptor
#

How I can download and emulate their games for 1/4th of their games actual price @toxic bone

worn ember
#

and their games are overpriced as fuck too

toxic bone
#

original hardware is funny though

toxic bone
golden gust
#

I mean,much of their hardware is underpowered to all shit

pallid raptor
#

I mean Zelda I might pay full price but anything else I’m good

toxic bone
#

nintendo fans will buy anything they make

pallid raptor
golden gust
#

don't ping

toxic bone
pallid raptor
#

I didn’t?

golden gust
#

All that nintendo really has it's lots of nostalgic IP

toxic bone
pallid raptor
worn ember
#

though i kinda understand why they did it for pixelmon but still, how much of an asshat do you have to be as a company to shut down a mod

pallid raptor
#

Yeah

#

They should allow creativity atleast

worn ember
#

its not like its costing them money

golden gust
#

I mean, it's shutting down what is practically a fan group

pallid raptor
#

Yeah

golden gust
#

it's just dumb, this type of stuff is what keeps invigoration in the ecosystem

toxic bone
#

yeah

golden gust
#

I bet if pixelmon wasn't a thing, people would of lost an interaction point and nitendo woulda made less

#

I mean, as said, all they really have is IP, and maybe that they're willing to try new things

unkempt drift
#

that was 4 years ago... I'm pretty sure its still around?

golden gust
#

e.g. the WII was a massive success because it did something other consoles couldn't

#

somebody forked it

worn ember
true canyon
#

It got spigoted!

golden gust
#

kek

toxic bone
#

there was this mario battle royale that they took down, even after they changed the assets. they made mario 35 a year later

golden gust
#

I kinda miss having a DS

toxic bone
#

i barely use my 3ds

#

i think the last time i used it was to get files for an emulator

golden gust
#

I mean, probs really only for like mario and the resident evil port, but, still

pallid raptor
#

I miss my old PSVita

toxic bone
#

shitty company, great games

pallid raptor
#

Call of duty edition too

worn ember
#

i bought a second hand DS and a few games, thats all i ever owned from nintendo

golden gust
#

COD amazes me

#

It's a game which literally every single release people complain about, yet, next year they'll buy the next release of it

worn ember
#

goes for every game

toxic bone
#

the only one i've played is mw2

pallid raptor
# golden gust COD amazes me

The community sucks and is full of sweats, Activision has a sexual harassment laswsuit which I’m not surprised about tbh... I just want mw lobby’s and Black ops 1 lobby’s back

worn ember
#

i see people complaining how trash a dota patch is literally every patch, still same amount of people playing lol

toxic bone
#

whats a dota

pallid raptor
#

Lol

worn ember
#

its like league but better

toxic bone
worn ember
#

i tried league but it was pretty meh

pallid raptor
#

Huh I can’t place armour stands

#

Was gonna try to do something but I guess never mind

worn ember
pallid raptor
#

Lol

native wolf
#

COD:MW2 is the best COD

toxic bone
#

its the only one i've playedf

#

so i agree

native wolf
#

The singleplayer campaign is really good and multiplayer is fun too

worn ember
#

i played mostly World at War

native wolf
#

I kinda feel like shit hit the fan sometime after MW2

worn ember
#

cant remember if that was before or after mw2

formal turret
#

i tried playing dota a couple weeks after first downloading league and thought league was better lol i already didn't know how to play league at the time and dota just seemed even more difficult

worn ember
#

oh yeah, its a steep learning curve, but thats what i like about it

#

no skill cap

plucky sparrow
#

“Google-owned YouTube is starting to crack down on Discord music bots. The search giant has sent a cease and desist to the owners of the popular Groovy Bot, which lets Discord users play music from YouTube videos and is installed on more than 16 million Discord servers. Google wants the service gone within seven days, and Groovy is complying by shutting down its bot on August 30th.”

#

#

ShitTube

merry talon
#

🙄

#

bet you anything it's just gonna be a self host model

cunning raft
#

It's not shit tube

#

If YouTube doesn't do that music companies sue them or remove their music for them not protecting their songs from free use correctly

#

If you want to get mad at somebody get mad at like music labels

merry talon
#

that's the narrative they like to tell

cunning raft
#

That's the correct narrative

lean kiln
#

they tell it because it's true

merry talon
#

nah I think yt could tell them to fuck off basically

#

they aren't gonna take it all down

cunning raft
#

Well I'm sorry you think wrong

#

Unless you somehow manage to think legal precedent in your favor I don't think they're going to be changing how they handle this kind of thing

plucky sparrow
#

So

#

What if you instead used Spotify instead of YouTube as Groovy allowed

cunning raft
#

Spotify requires authorization to even start streaming anything from there

#

Where music labels are paid by any streaming of their song based on the amount of time listening to a specific artist, which is all taken from the monthly subscription you pay

#

On YouTube the money comes from Ads which will only get run on the site itself

plucky sparrow
#

Well what can I say

silver nexus
#

hmm

plucky sparrow
#

I guess I’ll just self host music bots from now on

cunning raft
#

Yeah chances of them coming after you for self hosting is probably slim

silver nexus
#

i just use an adblocker to listen to music on youtube

plucky sparrow
twin lagoon
#

slim

cunning raft
#

Which is why I said it's slim

plucky sparrow
#

I know

cunning raft
#

Ok

plucky sparrow
#

Ok

coarse lily
#

I just get JRoy to sing to everyone in voice.

#

Nobody can take that down.

plucky sparrow
#

One of the reasons Discord lets you turn down the volume of specific persons

waxen panther
#

Ok

plucky sparrow
#

Ok

limpid comet
#

Plus it's not like YouTube is profitable for Google

#

They want the easiest route possible to solves disputes like this

cunning raft
#

Actually I think YouTube is posting profits now

limpid comet
#

Wait really

coarse lily
#

I don't think they break down earnings.

#

So it's hard to say.

#

But they earn a metric fuckton so they might be profitable.

cunning raft
#

But they really want to avoid another viacom lawsuit

limpid comet
#

$1b is chump change

coarse lily
#

Not to me. :)

#

I'll take a billion bucks.

plucky sparrow
#

Would you?

cunning raft
#

Not me, personally

#

Talk to me when you have five

plucky sparrow
#

I’ve seen people criticize billionaires because they did “nothing” to earn such money

#

Or because such billionaires don’t want to donate 99% of their fortune

cunning raft
#

Whatever you're about to type sounds like #politics

toxic bone
cosmic raft
void void
#

Hm so many new paper builds but not 1.17.2

worn ember
#

.2 is out?

worn crest
void void
#

Well idk but it says my server is up to date and it's on 1.17.1

worn ember
#

...

worn crest
#

All is fine, so where is the problem?

void void
#

Idk

#

Is my server being I'm 1.17.1 a bad thing?

cunning raft
#

1.17.1 is latest

void void
#

Good

#

Someone said paper 1.17.2 was out

worn ember
#

tell them to eat poop

lean kiln
#

ded moment

void void
worn crest
worn ember
pallid raptor
#

Ooooh

pallid raptor
#

Paper is basically spigot and spigot is basically bukkit no?

waxen panther
#

paper adds a lot of stuff over spigot, and also makes internal changes.

the only way something would break on paper is if the plugin is doing some real janky reflection

pallid raptor
#

Yeah that’s what I though

waxen panther
#

what do you want

pallid raptor
#

Because it should almost always work on paper

waxen panther
#

it will 99.99999% of the time

#

anyone that didn't join the community yesterday knows about paper

#

if their plugin is broken on paper they'd know

pallid raptor
#

Yeah

#

Like it would be a surprising moment if a plugin for paper doesn’t work for paper

#

But half the time it’s because the user doesn’t have another plugin to install so it won’t work

cosmic raft
#

alright

#

after watching the first season of this show on apple tv

#

I gotta say Apple TV's content is good

#

but their web player is

pallid raptor
cosmic raft
#

S H I T

#

._.

#

7.5/10 on imdb too

pallid raptor
#

Oh

#

You said it at the wrong time 😂😂

worn ember
#

Stream service for streaming services wen

pallid raptor
#

Twitch and mixer in one stream so twitch streams mixer streaming twitch

#

100000000 views

#

Probably look like when you open OBS and it displays your screen

zenith gust
#

bruh i mean like no the technical side, did they straight up make their own proxy to middle man the packets being sent and recieved?

#

such a cool system even though its not ethical

#

how tf do u send a player to another server like that though

golden gust
#

it's a connection to a server like literally any other connection

#

bungeecord has existed for years, and there where proxies before that

#

all it does is add in extra auth steps

#

there is literally nothing magical about it, anybody who invested the time in could do it within an hour or two if they understand how all this stuff works

zenith gust
#

well u definitely cant do that with bungeecord, i guess they just made their own proxy system

pallid raptor
#

Has anyone got a hacked Java client or any hacks for Java? I just need someone to help me test a few things is all

zenith gust
#

what do u need help with

pallid raptor
#

Testing an anti cheat plugin

zenith gust
#

which anticheat

pallid raptor
#

Let me ge tit

zenith gust
#

alr

pallid raptor
#

get it*

#

SoaromaSAC @zenith gust

zenith gust
#

ill come test, what version?

pallid raptor
#

1.17

#

I’m booting up my server

golden gust
#

can't do that with bungeecord

pallid raptor
#

Would you like me to send you the DNS to the server in dms or here?

zenith gust
#

yeee i dont have any clients for 1.17

pallid raptor
#

Ah

#

Ok

golden gust
#

It's literally an open source project, the modifications required are really not that complex

pallid raptor
#

Yeah that’s fair

#

And what’s bungee cord

zenith gust
#

lol

#

its a proxy used to connect minecraft servers together

pallid raptor
#

Oh I see

worthy geode
#

BedrockConnect is imo more impressive

pallid raptor
#

Sounds complicated

#

Gotta love bedrock saying I have to login to Xbox live to play on my server when I’m literally logged in kekwhyper

#

Guess I wasn’t logged in enough

#

Nvm their is a service outage

golden gust
#

oh, it just acts as a dns server and then basically emulates a server and does the jump for you

#

ah, uses the transfer packet

zenith gust
#

ye if u have a transfer packet something like what i was looking at would be easy as fuck

worthy geode
#

BedrockConnect also keeps track of a personal serverlist so you basically get the full experience. It's pretty dumb that you can't add servers on console tho

viral lion
#

greetings paper people

zenith gust
#

that u cant add servers

golden gust
#

blame nintendo et al.

worthy geode
#

They could atleast allow it on Xbox

golden gust
#

do any xbox games allow custom servers?

pallid raptor
golden gust
#

no

waxen panther
#

what

golden gust
#

not at all

waxen panther
#

go to bed PepeLa

golden gust
#

doesn't even act as a DNS server, I misread that part of it

#

Basically, you just setup a DNS rule on your DNS server so that when you join one of the featured servers, it resolves the IP to bedrock connect

#

bedrock connect emulates enough of a server to allow you to connect and see the menu screen and such to select a server to jump to

#

then you select a server, it sends you a transfer packet, and bedrock connects to the new server

pallid raptor
#

Ah I see

#

So it’s like a server list

#

So you go from one server with a list to another via emulation?

zenith gust
#

well u join

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the dns sends u to their server picking server thing

pallid raptor
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It’s 2:41am so sorry if I miss interpreted

zenith gust
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and u can pick servers from there

pallid raptor
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Kinda

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Like this?

zenith gust
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exactly like that yes

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isnt that straight up just bedrock connect ur using

pallid raptor
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Ah ok yeah except I had to edit my wifi settings to access this

zenith gust
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yea

worthy geode
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Yeah, DNS settings to be exact

pallid raptor
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Yeah ik

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What I edited

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Now the good thing is that geyser is a plugin so I can also play Java instead of being forced to play bedrock

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So basically I’m emulating an emulator right?

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Or am I going off track?