general

[brave radish]

ok if you're not trolling, download the files and leave that host ASAP

[formal kindle]

Ok

But I want the ip

[brave radish]

well you're gonna have to lose that

[formal kindle]

But they say I can't transfer the ip

[brave radish]

you cannot

[cosmic wyvern]

no you cant

its their IP

[formal kindle]

Then I don't wanna move

[brave radish]

you can reassign a domain name if you want

[cosmic wyvern]

why not?

[quasi valley]

[rustic valve]

You shouldn't be using the IP. Should be using a domain, then just reassign it around as you desire.

[olive marlin]

Get a cheap domain for next time.

[void void]

[formal kindle]

Because I like the ip name

[cosmic wyvern]

lets say you have 123.serv.nu if you were to switch you could do 123.aternos.me

but you cant use their end domain

[brave radish]

what is it?

you might get to keep it

[formal kindle]

Okie

[brave radish]

depending on what it is and who owns it

[formal kindle]

I'll see if GoDaddy will let me keep it

[brave radish]

if you bought it from GoDaddy you can keep it

[formal kindle]

Oh ok

[brave radish]

But, when you get a new host, you have to tell GoDaddy to assign that domain to the new server

[formal kindle]

Ok

Any way I can just have GoDaddy do it

[void void]

Whats happening with @formal kindles hosting service? If you don't mind me asking

[brave radish]

You're gonna have to give them the IP

[formal kindle]

Okie

[cosmic wyvern]

No backups or paying

[void void]

Oof

[brave radish]

scroll up; apparently they charge $20 to restore backups and don't let people leave their host

[void void]

Wth that's a rip off

[cosmic wyvern]

They say you lose all your files if you move

[formal kindle]

☹️

[cosmic wyvern]

Which probably is a lie

[cosmic wyvern]

Can you download the files?

[formal kindle]

They said I can download the files but they will get deletee aftwards

[brave radish]

Well duh

they're not gonna keep them forever if you're not paying them

[formal kindle]

But I don't want em to be deleted since then I won't have the files

[cosmic wyvern]

You dont understand

They delete them from their files

[void void]

If you save it to your device it should be safe

[brave radish]

🤦‍♂️ I feel like this is trolling. I have for a while but it keeps getting more and more trolling.

[cosmic wyvern]

Not your pc

[formal kindle]

Oh I can keep the files on my pc

[worn ember]

well alright then, thanks for your service ig

[cosmic wyvern]

Yes

[brave radish]

If you can download them, by definition, yes

[blazing quarry]

I have to go to bed now. I will deal with oracle more tomorrow

[void void]

They can't delete the files form your device

[rustic valve]

Sometimes, it's hard to distinguish someone who has absolutely no idea wtf they're doing, against someone trolling.

But dis dumb

[blazing quarry]

Good night everyone and happy paper day

[brave radish]

Paper day?

[formal kindle]

Oh I'm not talking about Satiate

[rustic valve]

I don't want a paper day

I want a water day

[shrewd flume]

I need paper!!

[formal kindle]

That's my friends server

[void void]

I don't understand what's paper day?

[shrewd flume]

I need to play 1.17

;(

[worn ember]

then go play it

[wispy blade]

wait

[shrewd flume]

But with plugins

Paper

Is needed

[wispy blade]

found another impatient 12 year old

[main sorrel]

spigopt

[lyric hinge]

Correct on it not being $20, the worst possible case is a $7.50 restore fee if you go over the due date and then also go over the suspension period until it's terminated

[void void]

Whats paper day??

[blazing quarry]

every day is paper day

[void void]

Lol

[rustic valve]

Then go update Paper yourself

[lyric hinge]

Or use Spigot for now

[shrewd flume]

I know it's hard

[lyric hinge]

Then wait for Paper patiently 😄

[shrewd flume]

I m not complaining

[blazing quarry]

actually dont use spigot it's unstable af and you'll be spammed with errors in the console

[shrewd flume]

I m just excited for it

[worn ember]

so if i set the jdk's it'll use them automatically? or do i need to touch stuff in my project too?

[shrewd flume]

I want to play bruh

[cosmic wyvern]

Good plan

What code does it use?

[wispy blade]

"im not complaining"
"i need paper 1.17 now!!!!!!!"

[warm anchor]

This epic thing is getting out of hands @worn ember

[worn ember]

lmao

[rustic valve]

I'm a pro. I use Bukkit

[formal kindle]

So once I download Paper do I put it into the server folder

[cosmic wyvern]

Let me learn and understand in 10 year when its out for 9.9 years

[potent fossil]

You are complaining indirectly, there is nothing we can do for you that the devs are not already doing. You need to wait.

[blazing quarry]

Dem som venter på noe godt venter ikke forgjeves

[warm anchor]

I will probably lost 30 boost in 3 months

[void void]

I want to play paper 1.17 too but these things take time just wait

[potent fossil]

I know y'all wanna play, they're working as hard as they possibly can.

24/7 coding. Literally. It'll be done soon.

[cosmic wyvern]

Like someone said get bukkit meanwhile 🙂

[rustic valve]

Except for when they do.

[rustic valve]

Don't play me. That's a crime.

[tepid wadi]

[wispy blade]

im not even waiting im just here for the laughs and stupid questions

[blazing quarry]

wow who sent me money

[wispy blade]

oracle

[cosmic wyvern]

I was here because someone had a plan for his server and wanted it fool proof and we were just creating ways to cheat it

[rustic valve]

Microsoft

[cosmic wyvern]

Was good fun

[minor badge]

you need to set it per-project cause fuck you

[worn ember]

hmm i cant find it anywhere in the project settings tho

[rustic valve]

I came for the kicks and giggles of something else, I believe, then was informed there was an update which'd serve me goblin feed. Stayed for the feed.

[wispy blade]

technically i got here to ask an api question but then i fixed my own code

[void void]

I came here because I wanted updates for paper 1.17

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-06-14_22-50-05.png

[wispy blade]

monkebotplugin 0.5.3 when

[ashen cliff]

Only shows up if you actually have multiple configured.

[rustic valve]

Krusic23 when

I want the real update

[worn ember]

oh wow im blind

[ashen cliff]

You have the real update in #memes.

[blazing quarry]

bro someone has sent me 1317.84 norwegian kroner and i dont know who it is

[rustic valve]

First thing I saw was this <#memes message>, I was... afraid.

[cosmic wyvern]

How much is that?

[blazing quarry]

why does money just show up in my account for no reason

[cosmic wyvern]

Like in dollar or euro

[potent fossil]

158.46 usd

[wispy blade]

that's a sizeable amount of cash money

[worn ember]

[dull linden]

in my unprofessional opinion, don't accept it-

[blazing quarry]

It's the same day as my payday, but I expected more than that

I hope it's not my payday money lmao

[cosmic wyvern]

Thats quite a lot yes

[vague solar]

[potent fossil]

If you don't know why they sent it or who they are, be aware that a common scam has been going around where they send money hoping you'll send it back to them before the bank realizes it was a fraudulent transaction.

[formal kindle]

Where do I download java from

[vague solar]

[golden gust]

.java16

[potent fossil]

Then you get double whammied.

[limber knot]

Follow the guide for how to update to Java 16 here: https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html

[dull linden]

.java16 maybe here

[void void]

[limber knot]

Follow the guide for how to update to Java 16 here: https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html

[vague solar]

[rustic valve]

If it's such an issue, you could, you know, just give me the account

[potent fossil]

So just hold onto it for a while, see if it just randomly disappears.

[formal kindle]

Ok

[potent fossil]

If it does, it was fraud.

[worn ember]

[meager tusk]

How are simple and DED still chatting here

[blazing quarry]

nah it's probably from my previous employer that sent me money for the last couple of days last month

[meager tusk]

Do you guys live in this chat

[rustic valve]

Do you

[meager tusk]

Least dedicated paper discord users

[ashen cliff]

They have nothing other to do.

[vernal moth]

!warn 507638740039237653 spamming that icon is not appreciated here

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Warned 温謁り#3609 (spamming that icon is not appreciated here) [1 total infraction] -- MiniDigger#3086.

[potent fossil]

The scam is:

Open bank with $0, send money to someone, DM them "OMG I JUST SENT TO WRONG PERSON PLZZZZZ SEND BACK!!!!!!!!"

You send it back because you're kind.

Bank realizes 3 days later that that money was never in their bank account to begin with.

Bank reclaims the funds. From you.

[blazing quarry]

Most logical explanation: I didn't deliver my hours before the deadline last month and I'm getting money from the last days of April just now

[harsh frost]

man i can't wait for papermc 1.17

[potent fossil]

Well you don't have a choice!

[harsh frost]

it's always so reliable for me

[wispy blade]

Idriz, krusic, bro! How is the progress on KGBAirplane

[harsh frost]

spigot always is kinda buggy for me

[meager tusk]

You've never waited for anything in your whole life

[vague solar]

why?

[blazing quarry]

anyway gn

[meager tusk]

You've always been doing something in the mean time

So yes, you can wait for paper 1.17

[potent fossil]

I never slept

[wispy blade]

spamming isnt appreciated in general

[meager tusk]

KGBAirplane is at 1mspt with 5000 players.

[ashen cliff]

You have to post it in style.
So like this:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/854100854571401226.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/854100854571401226.png#

[meager tusk]

On an arduino.

[wispy blade]

Insane performance bro.

[vague solar]

LOL

[ashen cliff]

And I assume you can't see what I did, since you are on mobile.

So F.

[vague solar]

[meager tusk]

No 11.

Fact!

[potent fossil]

Fact!

[ashen cliff]

Correct bro. No Java 11.

[potent fossil]

Thanks for looking out for us bro.

[vague solar]

java 16 is worst

[meager tusk]

You Are Correct

I use Java 6 with Java EE

And make Website

with JHTML

[potent fossil]

I use Java 6 for web applets.

Make sure to run on IE 8.

[wispy blade]

i know some AWT bro, can i join the project

[potent fossil]

Wait, were applets phased out already on IE 8

Use IE 6 to be sure.

[meager tusk]

I have no idea

[wispy blade]

my comp sci class requires me to code java 8 awt applets PepeHands

[rustic valve]

I know this is a more common thing in the US, I'm not sure how well it works in Norway.

[potent fossil]

Who knows.

[meager tusk]

You can send money to someone without funds?

Interesting.

[wispy blade]

it's called negative balance

[olive marlin]

I know Canadian banks will charge you like 20$ if you attempt to do that.

[meager tusk]

Well I like to stay positive so that's not even an option fr fr 💯

[wispy blade]

Fact!

[void void]

hi

[ashen cliff]

Sounds like NNNNNLB.

[potent fossil]

Yes, they take the hit of a cash advance fee in the hopes that you will send them back the entire amount they sent you and then they profit, but you lose.

[olive marlin]

Here - you can't do that unless you apply to get the negative balance. And they won't refund it.

[meager tusk]

Oh no no no

@vale rune Hey bro, have you seen the 6 million euros from Kosovo's treasury?

[worn ember]

this should be fine right?

[meager tusk]

No? Me neither. Let's stop talking about it.

Cmon guys it's already over stop talking about 6 million euros out of the treasury for no apparent reason.

[wispy blade]

im gonna make NSBWaterfall bros

[rustic valve]

Yeah, here, that'd be one bank transferring to another bank. The bank the scammer used would likely have to take the hit. You'd likely be under criminal investigation for fraud if there were large amounts, though.

[ashen cliff]

Bro! NLB is going down again? Let's give it like 2 million and sell it for like 6k.

[wispy blade]

wait no

AIVDWaterfall

[potent fossil]

Of course, same here, but the person doing it is typically long gone.

They'd have used a skimmed CC, so not traceable to them.

Unless they're idiots.

That's why the recommended approach to receiving random cash is leave it there for 1 week.

If it's still there, then ok withdraw.

[meager tusk]

But I want that money right now.

[potent fossil]

Should be enough time for the bank to process the transaction and either clear it or realize it's not valid

[ashen cliff]

Bro. 100% Western Union.

[meager tusk]

Giving that guy 50 thousand euros was the best choice in my life. Can't wait for the 100 million he's gonna be sending me.

[potent fossil]

Hello sir, I am with Microsoft support. We have determined your system has 500 viruses. Please look. Type Win+R and then eventviewer. Look at all those severe errors. Your computer could die any day. This is urgent.

Please go to your nearest convenience store and purchase $4000 worth of prepaid cards and then give me the number. Our, uh, our billing system is down. Yeah. So we can only use those.

[meager tusk]

Where do I type Win+R

[rustic valve]

This is where the checks and requirements of Norway go against the US hard.

I can't even change my phone subscription around without providing passport evidence at a goddamn store, because "identity theft of monetary value".

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-06-14_23-04-14.png

[rustic valve]

Not saying it doesn't happen. But usually at that point the business has screwed up, and they have to take the hit.

[potent fossil]

Plz sir click this link and click yes on the pop. hteeteepeeh://remotehelpsoftwareshit.thirdlevel.secondlevel.firstlevel.scuffedtld

[ashen cliff]

How my laptop works: https://posili.me/i/2021-06-14_23-05-06.png

It doesn't.

[rustic valve]

Please click this link: www.trojan.virus

100% safe

[brave radish]

I clicked it

[rustic valve]

Okay

Now go log into your bank account

[meager tusk]

I clicked it... ughhhh what do I do now?

[vague solar]

doesn't work

[brave radish]

It didn't do anything so I clicked it twice

and then it selected some text

[potent fossil]

syskeys

Sir the virus got you it is now $6000.

[meager tusk]

Omg I can't pay that much I'd have to withdraw from my retirement fund or something

[potent fossil]

That's what you're going to have to do then sir please initiate wire transfer.

[meager tusk]

Haha! Pranked! You're gonna be posted on my epic youtube channel LoL i'm actually using a Virtual Machine with the software called "Virtual Box" I bet you haven't heard of it before LoL. Pranked!

[rustic valve]

Will you blow up the pipeline and cause widespread national spook?

Only for people to learn that everything was safe, you just hit the billing system so they couldn't check their payments properly?

[potent fossil]

YOUTHINKYOUAREFUNNYMANHUHJOKERCOMEDYMANHUHFUCKYOU click

[vale rune]

What money?

[rustic valve]

Don't forget how you deserve that money, Simple.

[meager tusk]

Click like and Subscribe and turn on the bell to see more epic pranks On my youtube

[meager tusk]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[rustic valve]

I know nooooothing, eeeeh?

[random aspen]

What if I want to be fed to goblins?

[vale rune]

Then ask, and you shall be sent to Bosnia.

[brave radish]

Request an ETA

[potent fossil]

Then find another place to get eaten. Asking for an ETA is not funny. We are really really over it.

[brave radish]

after documenting that you read the message, asking for an ETA will certainly get you fed to goblins by the moderators

[potent fossil]

It's not quirky. It's not cute. It's fucking annoying.

[random aspen]

I am not going to. I just wanted to make a joke. ;)

[olive marlin]

I can mute you or I can ban you - both lead to goblins.

[potent fossil]

Yea got that, but it's not a funny joke.

Welcome anyway.

[olive marlin]

It's not funny when you hear it every 5 minutes.

[random aspen]

oh

[vast peak]

Hm

[random aspen]

well, in this case, I am sorry. I didn't know it was that persistent of a joke...

[potent fossil]

It's ok, thanks for having a brain about it

[random aspen]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[merry talon]

???? no

[potent fossil]

Okay good

Someone did

[merry talon]

I guess it's my fault for pointing it out though

[potent fossil]

lol it's ok

[mossy vessel]

simple changes his first letter as often as machine maker changes their tags lol

very confusing

[potent fossil]

its still me NMF

love me

[brave radish]

not as much as party barty qarty darty

[mossy vessel]

[twin lagoon]

nmf

[mossy vessel]

michele 👀

[rustic valve]

Now kiss

[mossy vessel]

That's very gay tho

[twin lagoon]

not if you wear socks

;)

[half escarp]

anyone who knows html and css and also ejs who can help me?

[rustic valve]

sock is ok

[warm anchor]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

[merry talon]

?ask @half escarp

.ask

[limber knot]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

[half escarp]

i cant ask in public bc its not related to paper

not even related to java

[warm anchor]

There’s likely no one that are willing to spend their own time to do private one on one support

Your best bet is provably google

[merry talon]

Then maybe you aren't in the right place lol

[half escarp]

googled alot

[merry talon]

Or, actually

It doesn't need to be related to paper

This is #general

[rustic valve]

That's ^10 as reckless though

[cobalt hinge]

1.17 support?

[rustic valve]

I will support nothing

Except for a nice cuddle and some ice cream

I can support that

[cobalt hinge]

[crystal compass]

i mean are yall really gonna let a kid askin for eta ruin your day

[still nacelle]

Spigot 1.17 6/6gb rám

[crystal compass]

yeah this is paper we don't support spigot and this is also the wrong channel, but as you can see your ram is being eaten like sheep eat grass

ass*

even the cpu usage is holding up the middle finger

its a sign

[worn ember]

only took 6 builds to get it working with j16

[crystal compass]

[still nacelle]

How much will the paperspigot ram use? More or less?

[worn ember]

5

[brave radish]

More, probably

[void void]

Is this how paper 1.17 will be?

[brave radish]

It should be

[twin lagoon]

6gb is normal

you want it to use as much as you allocate it

[still nacelle]

Spigot

[brave radish]

The server should always be using all the RAM you give it

otherwise, you're doing it wrong

[void void]

Is 8gbs of ram good enough for paper 1.17?

[twin lagoon]

yes

[worn ember]

ram usage doesnt really tell you anything anyway

[twin lagoon]

6gb is fine aswell probably

[still nacelle]

Spigot 6gb

[twin lagoon]

yes

that's fine

[worn ember]

my pc doesnt run any slower if its using 12gb of ram or 24 (as long as you're not starving your OS)

[still nacelle]

Aikar's flags

[twin lagoon]

ok

[still nacelle]

1.69 666gb ram?

[crystal compass]

oh ok so dedicate 64gb of ram thank u

[void void]

pterodactyl console gang where you at

[crystal compass]

i think the question is kinda the opposite

imagine using multicraft

[still nacelle]

Self hosted

I do t Like ssh

[void void]

Oh do you own your own server?

[crystal compass]

multicrap should be left in the toilet

[languid karma]

self hosted, but it was a pain to set up cuz i messed up the mysql part

[crystal compass]

when you unload it

[languid karma]

only reason I use it because my friends dont know anything about linux

and i cant be bothered to teach it to them so they have console through ssh

so a panel is easier for them

[void void]

I love the layout of pterodactyl

[still nacelle]

Pterodactyl ❤️

[brave radish]

could give them their own user with a custom "shell" that logs directly in to the server console

[languid karma]

they have no idea what linux is before I told them a couple months ago

i dont think they will be too keen on using this "foreign" OS

yes they did call it that

[radiant ivy]

are you using a vps?

[languid karma]

yes

[lethal locust]

4-5 gb for a mc server, oof

[languid karma]

hosting 1 for the panel and another one for the wings (daemon)

[still nacelle]

I need paperspigot. Because my players already want to play 1.17 survival

[void void]

Is the ram usage normal?
(No one has been on the server were waiting for paper 1.17)

[twin lagoon]

yes

[olive marlin]

paperspigot only works for 1.8

[brave radish]

Paper hasn't been called PaperSpigot since 1.8

[olive marlin]

.eta 9324

[worn ember]

bot used to call you out for it

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[still nacelle]

More photo

[crystal compass]

just release a vanilla 1.17 in the mean time

thats what i did

[still nacelle]

W8 flags?

[crystal compass]

my whole community is playin vanilla 1.17 while we wait to update the main serv

[still nacelle]

1.16.5

Your startup flags?

[void void]

Wdym

[still nacelle]

Vanilla or paper spigot 1.16.5

[void void]

Paper

[twin lagoon]

bad flags

[still nacelle]

My startup flags

[twin lagoon]

use aikar flags

[still nacelle]

1gb ram now

Mby

[languid karma]

The shipped ones are not that good. I would suggest that you make a custom egg for this.

[void void]

@still nacelle can you send me your pfp

[crystal compass]

[still nacelle]

Sorry pfp is random

[void void]

Oof

[still nacelle]

Dm

[plucky sparrow]

You can now watch YouTube with friends in discord

And play games too

[twin lagoon]

hasn't rolled out to all servers yet

been a thing for a while now though

[plucky sparrow]

Oh you can add it with a bot

[twin lagoon]

yes

[plucky sparrow]

I made one just so I could use it on my server

Works great

[still nacelle]

Ehmm

Broken

[void void]

whats he doing

[still nacelle]

Crash...

[livid current]

Lmao

[still nacelle]

Originál

[livid current]

Did you test it to see if it would work?

[still nacelle]

Yep

[livid current]

And it crashed

[still nacelle]

No

XD

Huawei p smart 2019

[livid current]

Yeah newer devices know they cant display certain colors

[still nacelle]

I need aikar's flags

[livid current]

What

[void void]

Why??????????????

[void void]

You could have just said so XD

Where do I find the flags?

[olive marlin]

.flags

[limber knot]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[olive marlin]

9324 try https://startmc.sh

[olive marlin]

It took a hot minute to load:

java -Xms10G -Xmx10G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar paperclip.jar nogui

[still nacelle]

Thx

[crimson kayak]

Do we have an ETA for the ETA?

What about an ETA for the ETA for the ETA?

[ripe sphinx]

-_-

[vernal moth]

Different topic please

[crimson kayak]

Recursive ETA

[short solar]

hola

[formal kindle]

-_-

[short solar]

hello, how to change version? (I have a host)

[barren yacht]

yay

protlib is out

https://ci.dmulloy2.net/job/ProtocolLib/507/

[brave radish]

Paper 1.17 isn't out yet if that's what you want

[proud lance]

Ask your host

that looks weird ass setup

[short solar]

still can't get to version 1.17?

[proud lance]

bungeecord.jar is in your main directory

but its like spigot worlds

[brave radish]

That did not translate well

oh you edited

No, you cannot get Paper 1.17 yet.

[short solar]

I don't speak English so I'm using the translator

then not 1.17? for the server?

[vast idol]

It is not ready

[olive marlin]

Read #❗-1-17

It's not ready yet, it's being worked on.

[vast idol]

Doesnt speak english so i made it simple to translate lol

[brave radish]

Mojang released Minecraft 1.17. Paper takes time to update after that. People are working on the update right now.

[short solar]

ok

[brave radish]

🥺 why #delicious-tacos archive

[worn ember]

cuz u poop

[potent fossil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/nzpgut/massive_explosion_at_lubrication_factory_in

Who let cat in the lube factory??

(jfc tho)

[vast idol]

F

[worn ember]

explosions do be interesting as fuck tho

[limber knot]

valid complaint tbh https://twitter.com/SpigotDrama/status/1404574373646770180

SpigotDrama (@SpigotDrama)

mikroskeem complains that simpleauthority replaced SpongeVanilla by SpongeVanilla

Twitter · Jun 14, 2021, 11:00 PM

[crimson kayak]

What does one need to do to get the cat role?

[rustic valve]

Also moved #adorable-pets

Post evidence of cat, pray to the gods that someone with the power to grant roles sees

[coarse urchin]

https://twitter.com/SpigotDrama/status/1404408278109417474

SpigotDrama (@SpigotDrama)

kangarko joins governments around to world to ruin SpongeVanilla

Twitter · Jun 14, 2021, 12:00 PM

[rustic valve]

Now we pray

[worn ember]

ah yes, murica

[void void]

.config

.optimize

[limber knot]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/

additional tips for improving server performance - https://www.spigotmc.org/posts/3684550

[crimson kayak]

Oh boy
Someone once told me they had to use an American physics book at university
Must've been a nightmare even if it was just classic dynamics

[buoyant pier]

I really got eaten by the goblins ;-;

Woah.

Hello.

Quack.

I like your pfp.

It's very epic.

[potent fossil]

Wow, two ducks?

Papa's eating good tonight.

[buoyant pier]

...

[potent fossil]

.kill BothDucks

[limber knot]

unleashes the armies of Isengard on BothDucks.

[potent fossil]

Perfect.

[buoyant pier]

i-

[worn ember]

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:78.8/centery:36.7/zoom:2
Boat

[spice ether]

Looool

[buoyant pier]

Fight back!

[potent fossil]

This is why I eat ducks

[worn ember]

Duck uprising

[buoyant pier]

Exactly.

[vestal jasper]

🔥

[buoyant pier]

i-

[brave radish]

@buoyant pier stop spamming ETA requests please

[buoyant pier]

What are you on about?

[brave radish]

@ mods are any of you deleting that or is that Duck?

[buoyant pier]

...

[vestal jasper]

listen, @woven otter is a homicidal maniac

[brave radish]

not that Duck

[vestal jasper]

he instils a sense of untrust in anyone who encounters him

[buoyant pier]

Self-made.

[vestal jasper]

I can ping 6 other joshs in this server

[buoyant pier]

uh-

[proud lance]

I like the contrast on the fire flames

[buoyant pier]

Thank you.

Isn't it just top-quality.

[vast idol]

Better than 1.17 ores for sure

[vestal jasper]

ok well the ducks may have the advantage

[buoyant pier]

o-o

[twin lagoon]

@vestal jasper uwu

[spice ether]

Omg duck invasion

[proud lance]

which one is Goose

[vestal jasper]

jk there's a lot of joshes in here too

it's about even

[spice ether]

Time to duck and hide 🤣

[buoyant pier]

o-o

[spice ether]

👀

[golden gust]

Listen here, Duck

[buoyant pier]

uhm-

[golden gust]

The only good duck is one wrapped with pastry

[vast idol]

Filet or on the bone?

[buoyant pier]

Excuse me, what are you on about?

[golden gust]

or, well, in a wrap

[spice ether]

[buoyant pier]

Cat's make a perfect sausage roll.

I typically use the tail as the sausage.

[static badge]

@woven otter some dumbass is literally taking your name

[buoyant pier]

And leave the rest for later.

Who's taken your name?

[worn ember]

Ducks x Furries

[buoyant pier]

no

just no

[vestal jasper]

[worn ember]

why is it purple

[vestal jasper]

it's very hot

[worn ember]

[crimson kayak]

But blue fire is colder than red fire

[olive marlin]

If you want it to restart on crash - see pinned messages in #paper-help

[worn ember]

[buoyant pier]

🐈
🔥

https://tenor.com/view/cat-died-funny-animals-fat-gif-13843647

LOL.

[vestal jasper]

ignoring the fact that the burning material can influence flame colour

Blue Flame: Copper(I) chloride, butane

[buoyant pier]

@golden gust I pinged also look at this amazing gif.

Isn't it just beautiful.

[olive marlin]

Also @cerulean plume as a backup it's worth installing JuiceSSH or other client on our phone and configuring it, just in case.

[brave radish]

ah yes, pinging a moderator to tell them you pinged them
great idea

[crimson kayak]

Does juice ssh support keys?

[olive marlin]

Yes.

[worn ember]

ofc

[buoyant pier]

Wait that's a MOD?

[vestal jasper]

wait

[buoyant pier]

Uhhhhhh-

[brave radish]

mhmm

[teal cedar]

a real life mod?

!!

[buoyant pier]

Guys, I think it's time to uh-

[vestal jasper]

here's one with additives

[buoyant pier]

GO.

BYE.

[worn ember]

i want to eat it

[buoyant pier]

I'm still here and living.

The cat?

Me too.

[magic river]

https://github.com/ibraheemdev/modern-unix

[buoyant pier]

sus.

[magic river]

I think I have most of these

[worn ember]

modern unix

[buoyant pier]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-yet-rudead-cat-evil-gif-13134616

o-o

[worn ember]

those are 2 words i'd never thought to have seen together

[magic river]

Ok I lied, there are a bunch in here, I probably have like half of them

[crimson kayak]

Non-modern Unix

I broke the system

[magic river]

Everyone should have ripgrep in their life

[worn ember]

sounds like a serial killer lol

[magic river]

delta is also amazing unless you're a wimp and only use git from a GUI 😛

bat is just an obvious upgrade

[worn ember]

im a wimp tbh xD

i only use git commands when the gui doesnt have it or not doing what i want

like on my node project lol, it go stuck analyzing code (probably on all the node modules??)

so had to do it from cmd cuz webstorm was being dum

[magic river]

jq is awesome for whipping up little bash scripts to process things

I use that at work for a script to let you pick a release to download from a github project

[ripe sphinx]

jq's also great to just prettyify json when you're working i.e. http something.com | jq .

[worn ember]

my browser does that for me lol

[ripe sphinx]

yeah I'm sure browser plugins exist that do that, but doesn't help when you need to do stuff in the cli i.e. I was working on a spring project and I needed to include some headers for auth

[potent fossil]

imagine for a moment DED, a headless environment where you need to do a quick api resp check

or a quick script in Paper's case to download the latest jar, the script everyone links actually uses jq

[worn ember]

postman if i need to do any non get requests

cmon simple, we all know paper downloader is the shit

[potent fossil]

u wot

[worn ember]

https://github.com/DarkEyeDragon/PaperDownload

ez clap

[potent fossil]

Windows only lol

But looks nice

[waxen karma]

how many server patches r needed

[waxen karma]

thx

[celest coyote]

1 billion

[worn ember]

its wpf, so yeah lol

[celest coyote]

now rewrite in MAUI

[potent fossil]

so script thingy with jq is bettar 4 teh headless linookz serburs

[worn ember]

well yeah

not gonna argue against that

[worn ember]

whomst

[ripe sphinx]

but what about when you need to use linux, iirc I had a simple script tossed together in ~5 minutes using jq and httpie

[celest coyote]

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-net-multi-platform-app-ui/

orrrrrr https://platform.uno/

[worn ember]

interesting

might give those a try

glad ms is pushing cross platform now

apple can go suck a duck

[celest coyote]

both of these platforms use Xamarin under the hood btw

[worn ember]

yeah i figured

which runs in mono right?

[celest coyote]

depends

MAUI they are rewriting xamarin to run on.net 6

so xamarin currently uses mono but won't use it any longer in the next .net update

[worn ember]

noice

[wide dune]

Guys how can i see mining speed of pickaxes ( modded ones )?
Is there a config on minecraft or a mod for this?

[worn ember]

its a debug option iirc

might just show nbt tho, dont remember

[icy osprey]

this is neat but why not make it cross platform with something like python, c++ or nodejs?

[worn ember]

cuz it was just a proof of concept

[icy osprey]

oh, still neat like I said

[worn ember]

i wanted to mess with wpf a bit

[celest coyote]

willingly using js

🤢

[icy osprey]

I'd personally use ts

[worn ember]

i had a nodejs final today

biggest issue i have with it is the intellisense on it

[icy osprey]

Use ts instead @worn ember

[celest coyote]

ts doesn't fix a bunch of issues with js

its nice but not enough

[worn ember]

its nicer, but still eh

[icy osprey]

ts is better for a dev, the user experience is no different, as ts is transpiled to js

[worn ember]

i use ts for angular, not bad, not great

[icy osprey]

ts is better for checking error before JIT happens

[celest coyote]

I have used ts before, I know what it is

[icy osprey]

You said it doesn't fix issues, it wasn't meant to fix issues

only for the developers

[worn ember]

if you want to see why you shouldnt use js for anything bigger than a few scripts https://github.com/DarkEyeDragon/SnakeMP

[icy osprey]

https://github.com/SeqSEE/discord-bot-boilerplate

[worn ember]

it gets messy so quick

[celest coyote]

I started using C# in blazor to write UIs as SPAs

I'm never going back to js/ts

[worn ember]

heh, we're moving our app over from razor to blazor

[celest coyote]

razor as in MVC?

[worn ember]

ye

[celest coyote]

nice

most applications don't really make too much sense as MVC arch

[worn ember]

ours did tbh

its an app for bands where you can store sheets and bundles and stuff

so its all well grouped so mvc made sense

[celest coyote]

thats nice but the thing is thats its not really a full front end framework

you are basically forced to use JS to do things you can't do in C#/server side

[icy osprey]

doesn't look too messy to me

[night mason]

Wanna see some Goblins so what’s the eta

[worn ember]

true

[worn ember]

eh i just dont like how classes work in js

[icy osprey]

yeah they are better in ts

https://github.com/SeqSEE/discord-bot-boilerplate/blob/master/src/Commands.ts

[worn ember]

blazor is quite heavy on the client tho

[celest coyote]

they are improving it in .net 6

making it AOT compiled

[night mason]

Is there a way to get a good free server

[worn ember]

yeah thats better

[icy osprey]

the oopiness of ts is one reason I like it better than js

and yes that is a word... now

[worn ember]

theres also a bunch of limitations still in blazor, but i think i like it better than mvc

[celest coyote]

there are a few libraries in js that are straight up incompatible with ts

[icy osprey]

even if you make your own types definitions?

[celest coyote]

as in you cannot generate type information

[icy osprey]

typescript allows you to make your own definition files for external libs

[worn ember]

sounds like a PITA

[icy osprey]

not really

[celest coyote]

yes you cannot create correct definitions for some libraries because they are fundamentally incompatible with OOP

or they are too dynamic

[icy osprey]

I haven't encountered any

[celest coyote]

good for you

[icy osprey]

there are some that have too many any types which kind of kills the intellisense and stuff

[night mason]

How many patches have they gotten fine

[icy osprey]

but it doesn't limit you from making a type def

[night mason]

Done

[worn ember]

check the issue tracker

[night mason]

Where

[worn ember]

.eta

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[worn ember]

thats the best you'll get

[celest coyote]

another fundamental problem I have with js libraries are that too many of them are fail silently, however that might just because I'm working with shitty legacy code

[potent fossil]

what in gods name did i just experience

i went on vrchat for the first time and went into a bar world and there was just me, a robot, and a bartender guy playing buff 6 foot tall plankton and we had a nice chat about introducing me to vrchat

what in gods name

[icy osprey]

I have VR but never played VR chat

[potent fossil]

wonderful, im going back in that was amazing

[icy osprey]

Is it fun?

[potent fossil]

dude i just talked to buff 6 foot tall plankton manning a bar and he asked me if i wanted vr alcohol and vr food.

yes its great

[icy osprey]

meh, I don't even use my mic in VR

[potent fossil]

vrchat will be no fun then

[icy osprey]

I'd have a bad time.... I'll just stick to minecraft and pavlov lol

[potent fossil]

vrchat is all about hanging out together as custom avatars and well

chatting.

so if you like that (i do), its fun. if not, youll hate it

[icy osprey]

I'm too shy to be having voice convos with strangers on the internets

[worn ember]

i love roleplaying as the titanic

[potent fossil]

lmao

[potent fossil]

I used to be as well but the thing is like

They don't know who you really are, that dude was 6 foot tall buff plankton

and i forgot to mention

he was speaking in planktons voice and i asked if he had a voice changer

and NO HE WAS LITERALLY VOICE ACTING FOR ME RIGHT THERE ON THE SPOT

[main sorrel]

you can meet some really cool ppl on vr chat but you can also meet the absolute bottom bin of humanity

[potent fossil]

it was perfect

oh im sure

[night mason]

I can do and ok Herbert impression

[worn ember]

goes for any place on the internet lol

[main sorrel]

fair

[icy osprey]

any other fun games you suggest on VR @potent fossil preferably on Steam?

[rustic valve]

All of them

[icy osprey]

lol

[main sorrel]

Half Life: Alyx is fun

[rustic valve]

Even the demos

[worn ember]

sausage dog

[rustic valve]

That's not #adorable-pets, that's a dog

[icy osprey]

Also which VR do you have? I have vive pro with eye tracking.

[void void]

Eye tracking?

[rustic valve]

All of them. Get all of them

[icy osprey]

yeah it has cameras that can track your eyes

[rustic valve]

All of the VR's

[icy osprey]

and even supports foviated rendering (if the game supports it)

[rustic valve]

Samsung's just wanting to scan your retina for future keeping

[void void]

Why is #adorable-pets locked?

[icy osprey]

it's HTC though, not Samsung

[rustic valve]

You have not provided photographic evidence of your kitties

[icy osprey]

someone look like they want some attention

or camera shy, not sure

[void void]

I was on the floor and his sisther came up so I started to pet her He laided down a few inches away and when she left he came up and got lots of attention

[icy osprey]

this my wireless VR setup

3d printed mounts for the battery on the headset and a gunstock for games like pavlov

[rustic valve]

I glanced over it from another screen. Thought you were showing us your body-disposal kit

[vast pumice]

I havent developed a server in a while. Wheres the go-to place to find plugins?

[vestal beacon]

probably still spigotmc

or mcmarket

idk

[vast pumice]

figured spigot

never heard to mcmarket

[warm anchor]

Don’t use mcm pls

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/GI6CfKcMhjY just stumbled upon this masterpiece again

[warm anchor]

It’s a place with hot garbage lol

[vestal beacon]

ya really shitty place but some plugins only post on mcm

[icy osprey]

I literally re-watched this like a week ago

[warm anchor]

Paper will soon have its own called hangar you can check out or contribute to development in #hangar-dev

[rustic valve]

Isn't MCMarket just, pirated and bootleg stuff? Or am I thinking of some other site that shouldn't be named?

[warm anchor]

Mcm or blackspigot

Same junks

[worn ember]

legit stolen

[icy osprey]

pride month probably, and they want to show support for the community

[rustic valve]

Thought so

[vast pumice]

dope

[warm anchor]

What does God has to do with this? Can you explain

[rustic valve]

Like walking around in Turkey. "Real fake, yes yes!"

[worn ember]

lmao

[icy osprey]

pretty ignorant thing to say

[short solar]

type on what day will 1.17 be for the servers

[worn ember]

5

[rustic valve]

For you? Never.

[tribal flicker]

😫 bro

[spice ether]

Bruh

[warm anchor]

How will the God has anything to do with showing support for your fellow human being?

[icy osprey]

I thought the bible told you it wasn't your place to judge also?

[worn ember]

[rustic valve]

God gave you life, why shouldn't you respect theirs?

[short solar]

a

[warm anchor]

You should take your misinformed opinion somewhere else

[icy osprey]

express them alone

[worn ember]

go rant on twitter about it

[warm anchor]

No you are just being a dick

First of all ones gender is decided by pure biology not God

Second a factional book is not scientific proof of anything you said above

[rustic valve]

I wonder if I should have some pistachio ice cream

Anyone want pistachio?

[icy osprey]

gender is a social construct, physical sex is only thing determined by biology.

[warm anchor]

So using a factional book to prove your point is invalid

[icy osprey]

really? How you know?

[worn ember]

if we going this route anyway 👀

[rustic valve]

You get pistachio! And you! And you! Everybody gets pistachio

[warm anchor]

I am simplify this for this person coz he’s too deep into the brainwash territory. I understand I am not entirely right

[spice ether]

Nom nom pistachio

[vestal beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-hader-watching-eating-popcorn-oh-yeah-watchin-gif-8938478

[rustic valve]

Nom nom nom

[worn ember]

could go both ways tho :p each has their perspective

[tribal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/potazio-papu-gif-19329957

chatting shit rn ^

[cunning raft]

shut up

[rustic valve]

[icy osprey]

most of the trans people who commit self harm do so because options to be who they are are unobtainable for them. If you read the scientific and medical manuals about it you would know that transitions saves many trans people.

[swift root]

First of all, politics. Second of all, don't be transphobic @void void

Saying it's morall wrong to be trans is literally transphobia

!ban 762847479153819669 Transphobia

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned lolcatw#1488 (Transphobia) [1 total infraction] -- Larry#6086.

[icy osprey]

🙌

thanks

[warm anchor]

Thank you Larry

[icy osprey]

I was getting all worked up and hot and sweaty

[spice ether]

👏

[icy osprey]

I cannot stand bigotry... literally boils my blood

[rustic valve]

Now can we eat some pistachio ice?

[modern junco]

eta on paper 1.17?

[tribal flicker]

cutting bro, no pistachioforme

[rustic valve]

Should get that checked out. I don't think it's healthy to have boiling blood

[waxen panther]

.eta

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[rustic valve]

For you? Never

[modern junco]

fuck

[rustic valve]

Damn right that's a fuck

[crystal thunder]

For people who can"t wait just compile dev branch

[coarse marlin]

[spice ether]

Fun

[icy osprey]

which half?

[rustic valve]

Then they can develop and finish the rest themselves if they're so impatient

[crystal thunder]

And people asking eta and responses be like

[icy osprey]

please tell me that not in the git

[rustic valve]

Should just skip it and do 1.118 instead

[crystal thunder]

Its

[icy osprey]

sad af

[potent fossil]

Wow seriously

lol...

I honestly think this update has been the worst thus far. Maybe 1.18 will top it.

And by worst, I'm strictly talking about...that shit.

Anyway back to VRChat.

[chrome quest]

Everyone should ask for an etd instead of an eta.

[ornate spindle]

I wonder how they'd survive back when updates would take over a month from the bukkit team

[rustic valve]

The problem is that when you increase the pushback on people asking, you get the trolls out of the woodworks.

[crystal thunder]

tbh they moved to gradlew in 1.17 i liked maven tho

[rustic valve]

So you get more people asking.

Well, "asking"

[cunning dagger]

[rustic valve]

[coarse marlin]

there is a bukkit 1.17 right? /s

[crystal thunder]

yeah there is

[warm anchor]

Paper and Java MC itself has gain a lot more user base though. So increase in idiots

[rustic valve]

smh bukkit even exists

[cunning dagger]

guys when does 1.18 paper come out

[crystal thunder]

tbh if bukkit didn't exist spigot wont exists then paper wont exist*

[chrome quest]

5 mins ago.

[rustic valve]

For you, never

[cunning dagger]

[ornate spindle]

fair point, whole lotta more servers now than there were 7+ years ago

[golden gust]

One day, somebody will make a funny joke about a release

[warm anchor]

Yup yup

[golden gust]

one day

[cunning dagger]

mine carft

[warm anchor]

Mojang did already. It was called 1.13

[rustic valve]

Are you saying I ain't funny?!

[crystal thunder]

[warm anchor]

Oh shut didn’t turn off ping

[icy osprey]

I'm sure there would be something there though..... Like someone would make something else... Maybe not called those things but it would almost certainly have been created by the mc community

[warm anchor]

Why is there still no configable option for reply pings discord

[crystal thunder]

idk ask DISCORD

[rustic valve]

Imagine being able to right click the ping option, and setting a timer like you do the mutes.

[cunning dagger]

[golden gust]

imagine discord actually caring about UI for people with eyesight issues

[crystal thunder]

inverted colors?

[rustic valve]

Imagine Discord not just memeing every single thing they do half-arsedly

[proud lance]

light mode is for people with eyesight issues

[warm anchor]

They have been a lot less “fun and cringe”

[golden gust]

I can't use light mode

[worn ember]

imagine having eyesight issues

[rustic valve]

It's easier to be "less" when you used to be cringe for every third word you said

[warm anchor]

Their support ticket was something especially

[golden gust]

I need the high contrast of light and dark, and in order to be able to percieve properly, i need a bright screen, which light mode blinds me almost

[proud lance]

just wear glasses cat

[warm anchor]

They will do lol lmao haha bruh and such

In their official support ticket

[proud lance]

one thing I dislike is with light/dark mode is that I cant control image colors on my discord rules page and etc

[rustic valve]

When your entire staff is a bunch of kids in adults disguise, you just know the top brass has to be a bunch of kids too >=c

[proud lance]

so I cant have graphics with white text cause lightmode users wont see anything

cant do black text cause dark mode users wont see anything

[rustic valve]

You should have outline colors anyways.

[cunning dagger]

^

[proud lance]

nah looks garbo

[cunning dagger]

and awesome semi transparent background pattern

[proud lance]

I have minimalist design

[rustic valve]

Use transparent backgrounds, use discord dark background color for outline, fill color with whatever you want that isn't the same shade.

[proud lance]

thats my point

[rustic valve]

Fixes the issue for light mode users so they can see, dark modes won't see any change.

[cunning dagger]

or just use colorful text

[proud lance]

if you make the text dark with background transparent, its hard to read for dark mode users, great for light mode

the reverse is also true

so you either need a background

or you need to outline the text with a different color, but it still doesn't look as nice

[warm anchor]

Make two separate announcement

Or use external website

[cunning dagger]

such a small minority use light mode tho

[warm anchor]

I do my major announcement on my own community website

I will post something small and direct people to read over the site

[rustic valve]

#whiterules #darkrules?
I see no issues here

[proud lance]

or just allow for css changes based on light or dark mode and ezclap

[rustic valve]

I'mma be honest, I don't trust Discord to implement functionality for that.

[icy osprey]

custom css in discord would be awesome.... like changing the font and stuff...

[crystal thunder]

spigot website dead?

[warm anchor]

Yes

[rustic valve]

Every website dead

Internet kapoot

[crystal thunder]

can't access paper one

too

[rustic valve]

INTERNET KAPOOT

[icy osprey]

Websites are not living beings afaik

[cunning dagger]

i can reach paper but spigotmc is dead

[icy osprey]

However seems like it might be a cloudflare issue for spigot site

[cunning dagger]

host issue

[icy osprey]

oh snap

[warm anchor]

Thank you for your report. The paper team will start working on getting spigot site back up shortly /s

[cunning dagger]

[icy osprey]

There is an issue between Cloudflare's cache and your origin web server.```
seems like it could be a caching issue though...

[crystal thunder]

tbh i only thing i care of spigot is stash place

where all code goodness exists

its down too

[flat shale]

ngl, still tempted to feed myself to the goblins

[tender swift]

Hard redacted when

Xd

[rustic valve]

Yesterday

[tender swift]

Must have missed that commit then i guess 😂

[sudden tundra]

@cunning dagger yeah

[cunning dagger]

ok so

right now this software is only being developed by one person

and progress is really slow

sorry i wasnt talking about paper

not sure what a good channel is for this

[woeful urchin]

im umited

[cunning dagger]

https://github.com/Jaxkr/mammoth

connecting one world on several servers is very diffcult

syncing mobs players inventories

it just needs more devs tbh

there isnt a large need for it though

[sudden tundra]

that looks promising anyways

[cunning dagger]

yeah

[warm anchor]

It’s been tried and failed many times for a reason

[icy osprey]

that yours?

[cunning dagger]

no

i mean Jax's softwore works but there are many bugs

many duplication exploits

among other things

[warm anchor]

Your sentence is oxymoron right there lol

My car runs

It just breaks down a lot!

[cunning dagger]

yeah it doesnt crash though

[sudden tundra]

that's a good first step

[icy osprey]

and it doesn't start

[cunning dagger]

"The first version of Mammoth was deployed and played by about 200 people. Game servers would "claim" chunks via a redis server entry. When a player moved between servers, there would be a visible disconnect+reconnect delay."

[warm anchor]

No no no. It sometimes doesn’t start but it starts most of the time!

Totally works!

[icy osprey]

It only starts when I am not trying to drive it

lol

[cunning dagger]

be optimistic

[warm anchor]

I am being realistic

[cunning dagger]

it can be done, i believe in it

[sudden tundra]

idk, that may be possible to overcome

i'm sure hausemaster would love something like that

[cunning dagger]

dont ask for an eta though

[icy osprey]

I think there would be faster DB to use than redis for that... Part of the issue might be that it's redis?

[warm anchor]

Not true. Part of the 2b attractiveness is its queue. It implies rarity and gives its plsyer a false sense of pride to be playing on a shitty server. So if you remove the queue it will probably negatively impact its player base

[sudden tundra]

redis is fast

[golden gust]

the game is too stateful for "smooth" transitions to be a thing

[warm anchor]

I know it sounds dumb as fuck but thsts really what it is

[sudden tundra]

very, very fast

[icy osprey]

I never said it was slow

I said that I thought there would be a faster DB than redis to work with

[sudden tundra]

it's the fastet POS out there for a DB

[icy osprey]

memcached? Redis afaik uses single core

[sudden tundra]

i mean, there may be some experimental, or WIP stuff, but redis is stable and supported

[icy osprey]

I just know there are faster db than redis out there... so assumed something faster and with more reliability guarantees would be better

[sudden tundra]

or maybe, have a central "relay" server

every others servers connect to it, and send the data

that way, you never break the connection

[icy osprey]

yeah something like that might be better possibly

[waxen panther]

@left swift

[sudden tundra]

BTW, i'm wondering, why aren't stuff like C++ rewrites of minecraft server used ?

[icy osprey]

I've wondered the same thing myself

[cunning dagger]

i would host one side of the overworld in Europe and the other side in north america so each side of the world can both have good ping