If multiple people have it open, all of those can hear it.
#general
rare canyon
thats why I wanted to avoid that but I guess I'll find another way
worn ember
modpack gang
wide chasm
Yeah, unless you're going to do this with note blocks, you need something external and you need to ensure everyone has that external thing.
tropic flame
i miss when the criteria was doors 😔
people would make concentration camps of villagers with loads of doors randomly LMFAO weird times
dusk drift
Was wondering why my DC vps was slow, benchmarked its cpu and it came out at 600 so I quickly booted up another same $5 vps and tested that cpu speed and came out at 1.1k, I was using a half speed vps for 6+ hours, TIL to test your vps cpus
twin lagoon
DC?
twin lagoon
if you do mean DO, use their premium intel/amd ones
$1/mo more, way better performance
encountered a lack of entropy causing issues on their normal $5/mo ones earlier this week
dusk drift
I tested their speeds when they first came out and I noticed no difference
and yea DO lol
golden gust
it's shared hardware of which there is no real afaik resource guarantees
twin lagoon
write: IOPS=3379, BW=7590KiB/s (7772kB/s)(21.0MiB/2968msec); 0 zone resets
$5/mo digitalocean still has faster random write speeds than an OVH dedicated server with nvme ssds
$6/mo one has like 4500 - 5000 IOPS though
limpid comet
michael 😩
untold meadow
wow how disappointing was line of duty
rich kelp
ashen cliff
OVH VPS IOPS
There should be a post from like 2017, where they nerfed my IOPS so hard, I couldn't even run Bungee.
twin lagoon
There should be a post from like 2017, where they nerfed my IOPS so hard, I coul...
OVH Advance-2 dedicated servers with NVMe drives have 1500 IOPS
it's too slow
ashen cliff
Bruh. I would at least double that. 
twin lagoon
INFRA-2 is fine though, 15k IOPS
ashen cliff
Can't stop me.
What drives even are that?
And why are they connected to the chipset?
magic river
Shouldn't a dedicated server be getting like 500,000 IOPS?
Or are they tossing cheap no cache desktop drives in there?
ashen cliff
Connect them to the chipset, set DMI to 1x. EZ.
twin lagoon
Shouldn't a dedicated server be getting like 500,000 IOPS?
considering my desktop gets 800k IOPS on the same fio test i run
probably
ashen cliff
Gib command.
magic river
Some high end desktop SATA SSDs were getting over 100,000 IOPS like a decade ago
twin lagoon
fio --rw=write --ioengine=sync --fdatasync=1 --directory=/tmp/test-data --size=220m --bs=4M --name=mytest
waxen panther
gaming
twin lagoon
got it from an IBM etcd blogpage thing
twin lagoon
it's a very short test yes
magic river
Isn't /tmp a ramdisk?
twin lagoon
that is something to look out for aswell yes
ashen cliff
Me_IRL:
write: IOPS=145, BW=582MiB/s (610MB/s)(220MiB/378msec); 0 zone resets
Test too short.
magic river
write: IOPS=152, BW=611MiB/s (641MB/s)(220MiB/360msec); 0 zone resets
twin lagoon
fio --rw=write --ioengine=sync --fdatasync=1 --directory=test-data --size=22m --bs=2300 --name=mytest
write: IOPS=1786, BW=4012KiB/s (4108kB/s)(22.0MiB/5615msec); 0 zone resets
I feel like this is a bad test 😛
ashen cliff
It is.
fio --name=rand-write --ioengine=libaio --iodepth=32 --rw=randwrite --invalidate=1 --bsrange=4k:4k,4k:4k --size=512m --runtime=120 --time_based --do_verify=1 --direct=1 --group_reporting --numjobs=1
twin lagoon
the test i mentioned isn't just about IOPS either
for my use case, the fdatasync 99th percentile duration is more important
a digitalocean premium intel nvme one gets 1336usec on that
ashen cliff
FSync in a VPS don't really mean much.
twin lagoon
my advance-2 gets 10000 - 15000usec on that
twin lagoon
FSync in a VPS don't really mean much.
seen a noticable improvement after moving my etcd cluster from ovh to digitalocean as temporary measure
ashen cliff
That's to be expected since OVH downgraded their IOPS in 2017 to like 1000 .
magic river
Yikes I just took a big chunk out of the lifetime of my SSD
write: IOPS=224k, BW=877MiB/s (919MB/s)(103GiB/120001msec); 0 zone resets
Using OVH's command with numjobs=4
twin lagoon
magic river
This is literally the cheapest SSD at this size I could find
ashen cliff
write: IOPS=41, BW=168KiB/s (172kB/s)(19.6MiB/120006msec); 0 zone resets
That CF card do be fast tho.
magic river
Seriously though, how could OVH's dedicated servers do so badly?
twin lagoon
magic river
I don't even know how that's possible, I think HDDs do more than 1000
twin lagoon
WDC CL SN720 SDAQNTW-512G-2000
adv-2 disks ^
the infra-2's however, perform really well
<500usec, write: IOPS=11.6k, BW=25.4MiB/s (26.7MB/s)(21.0MiB/865msec); 0 zone resets
SAMSUNG MZQLB960HAJR-00007
magic river
Western Digital claims that SSD can do up to 180k IOPS 4KiB random write
twin lagoon
yeah well idk, IOPS & disk latency are garbage
waxen panther
michael just the man i wanted to talk to!
twin lagoon
broccy!
twin lagoon
si
magic river
Are they not actually giving you a dedicated server or something?
twin lagoon
oh and it's not just a one-off bad machine or something
i've tried it on like 4 advance-2's
it's the same shit
magic river
Maybe they're putting you in a VM and hoping you don't notice
twin lagoon
Are they not actually giving you a dedicated server or something?
nop it's an actual dedicated server
ipmi and all
golden gust
I think ovhs hardware is really just trash
twin lagoon
infra-2's are fine, the rest is just meh
although for MC it's fine
just not for this specific usecase, https://etcd.io/
golden gust
Like, I know their HDDs are surprisingly shit for what you'd expect
royal kernel
Hello there
twin lagoon
ok but here's the real test, how much would I get on my ovh adv stor-2 storage server
ashen cliff
` write: IOPS=224k, BW=877MiB/s (919MB/s)(103GiB/120001msec); 0 zone resets`
My abused NVMe drives: write: IOPS=692k, BW=2705MiB/s (2836MB/s)(317GiB/120001msec); 0 zone resets
twin lagoon
with a single NVMe drive, dunno which one is in there and multiple HDDs
ok no they put the same WDC SN720 in the adv stor-2
wraith trail
beautiful
twin lagoon
ye but how much latency
wraith trail
uh let me see
twin lagoon
wraith trail
too dumb for this idk what latency you want but heres the whole output
write: IOPS=21, BW=85.8MiB/s (90.0MB/s)(220MiB/2563msec); 0 zone resets
clat (usec): min=1461, max=1856, avg=1702.60, stdev=46.41
lat (usec): min=1538, max=2053, avg=1796.20, stdev=56.59
clat percentiles (usec):
| 1.00th=[ 1467], 5.00th=[ 1663], 10.00th=[ 1680], 20.00th=[ 1680],
| 30.00th=[ 1680], 40.00th=[ 1696], 50.00th=[ 1696], 60.00th=[ 1713],
| 70.00th=[ 1713], 80.00th=[ 1713], 90.00th=[ 1729], 95.00th=[ 1795],
| 99.00th=[ 1860], 99.50th=[ 1860], 99.90th=[ 1860], 99.95th=[ 1860],
| 99.99th=[ 1860]
bw ( KiB/s): min=81920, max=98304, per=98.75%, avg=86799.20, stdev=7307.44, samples=5
iops : min= 20, max= 24, avg=21.00, stdev= 1.73, samples=5
lat (msec) : 2=100.00%
fsync/fdatasync/sync_file_range:
sync (usec): min=39767, max=75588, avg=45607.47, stdev=8381.18
sync percentiles (usec):
| 1.00th=[39584], 5.00th=[39584], 10.00th=[39584], 20.00th=[40109],
| 30.00th=[40109], 40.00th=[40109], 50.00th=[40109], 60.00th=[47973],
| 70.00th=[47973], 80.00th=[47973], 90.00th=[56361], 95.00th=[64750],
| 99.00th=[76022], 99.50th=[76022], 99.90th=[76022], 99.95th=[76022],
| 99.99th=[76022]
cpu : usr=0.00%, sys=7.38%, ctx=5626, majf=0, minf=12
IO depths : 1=198.2%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
submit : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
complete : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
issued rwts: total=0,55,0,0 short=54,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
latency : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1
it's 6 f617n's in raid 5(?)
honestly don't remember
no that would be dumb
raid 0
ashen cliff
write: IOPS=3421k, BW=13.0GiB/s (14.0GB/s)(1566GiB/120002msec); 0 zone resets
Best I can do for now.
twin lagoon
and now without the ramdisk @ashen cliff
ashen cliff
Not possible.
It would have to write quite a bit more data before it would hit the SSD array.
brave radish
what's the word for variables in languages like Swift that are really like functions with no inputs, but you can use them as a variable? I keep wanting to say "parameterized" but that's not it at all lol
wait nvm
I got it
limpid comet
Can anyone who's self hosted gitlab comment on their experience? I'm particularly curious in the CI/CD experience, and what it's like building and deploying things like web applications with it
It's very tempting to have git repos right beside the CI/CD, and mirror those repos to GitHub
waxen panther
michael likes it
limpid comet
Tell me that about anything and I'll trust it implicitly
twin lagoon
step 1
don't self-host gitlab, cloud hosted gitlab is fine in most cases
you should however, self-host the gitlab runner
for building & deploying web applications you can't go wrong with literally any CI/CD solution
generally, i'd just say to stick to whatever ci/cd your git host provides e.g. gitlab runner, github actions
brave radish
I personally don't see what's wrong with GitHub, at least for public projects
limpid comet
Yes I'd like to have my own private stuff setup, esp. since this box will be used by a few other people
golden gust
gh is fine for just pushing code to for private projects, but, I mean, take actions, I don't think gitlab has any real limits on stuff?
limpid comet
I'd like to make the process of building (and deploying) as simple as possible because the few other people are people who've no clue about any of this stuff. Web devs mainly
twin lagoon
gh is fine for just pushing code to for private projects, but, I mean, take acti...
both don't have limits when selfhosting the runner
golden gust
can you selfhost the 'runner' with GH?
twin lagoon
yes
limpid comet
Yes
twin lagoon
it's really just pick your poison at this point
golden gust
oh, cool
twin lagoon
i don't like github actions that much though
brave radish
gh is fine for just pushing code to for private projects, but, I mean, take acti...
Not that it seems likely, but I've heard of people not using GH for private stuff bc they think MS will steal their code...........
twin lagoon
gitlab ci/cd is perfect for my needs, that said it has it's issues here and there
a big improvement over jenkins though
upper flicker
Ive been using GH runners for private stuff and they work fairly well but they dont feel as nice as gitlab's to use
brave radish
2000 minutes is pretty good for free; I can see how it'd be a problem with not-java though
twin lagoon
oh and if you use kubernetes
upper flicker
that being said most of my private repos have been on GH now so maybe I dont care that much
twin lagoon
gitlab ci/cd is a lot nicer for that
limpid comet
That was my next question
twin lagoon
my two main problems with gitlab ci/cd however are the speed & lack of support/bugs here and there
like it doesn't support extended globbing or inverted globbing
golden gust
Thing is that 2000 is a lot for most projects, until its not
limpid comet
I would imagine deploying after build into a k8s cluster is ez
brave radish
2000/30 = 66 minutes a day for free; I feel like Paper could easily fit into that, at least only running on commits and not PRs
golden gust
I guess you're generally not gonna get stupid shit like our build process and most build times are gonna be lower than that, but, for paper, we'd have like a ~500 build a month limit, assuming we weren't building for 2 different vers
limpid comet
These limits are only with the provided runners ya?
brave radish
But you do get macOS so takes just as many minutes lol
brave radish
These limits are only with the provided runners ya?
for GH at least, yes, and only with private repos
idk what GitLab does
twin lagoon
gitlab also has free shared runners
upper flicker
gitlab is similar iirc
twin lagoon
no idea about limits since i don't use it
brave radish
I've never actually made an actions config; I've only ever used it for Java projects, in which case I copied someone else's, or for forks, where I copied the original
they seem pretty simple though
wraith trail
they reduced the free ones a lot recently, used to be 2000 now 400
although self hosted has no limits
brave radish
who?
wraith trail
gitlab
merry talon
codespaces is a huge GH feature that I wouldn't want to give up
twin lagoon
gitlab can launch a https://www.gitpod.io/ for you
wraith trail
they also have their own built in editor that is better than the github one but not very good
twin lagoon
oh yeah i use the web ide a lot
merry talon
I thought gitpod had their own IDE like the weird eclipse one that looks like vscode
twin lagoon
both
merry talon
is it eclipse? idk
twin lagoon
yeah eclipse has a vscode fork or something
they give you the option to choose from both
merry talon
ah ok
brave radish
semi-related: has anyone tried the Intellij-family's new collaborative editing thing?
merry talon
hmm gitpod looks like it's gotten a lot of improvements then
brave radish
ok for watching someone code but coding yourself is painful
slow, buggy, or both?
golden gust
I never really got the "code with me" stuff
brave radish
I find that Jetbrains tends to create really, really nice things and then... not test them before release lol
golden gust
Like, I can kinda see some usecases for it for being able to see what somebody else is doing and discussing stuff vs tryna screenshare and crap
But, like, for the intended usecases, I'm not really sure I see much demand from it
brave radish
and if you're screensharing, you likely have at least audio in the same platform if not video too
limpid comet
For me, code with me & related tools always go this way:
- "hey wanna do a code with me?" (We're both working on the same project, or I gotta help someone with something, etc)
- launches code with me
- weird bug or can't connect or something
- realize one of us (whoever isn't hosting the code with me session) can't view the website
- dick around for a bit
- go to bed
I'm sure a lot of this is due to general incompetence but it's still a bottleneck that I don't want to deal with
golden gust
The only time I've ever kinda really wished there was such a tool which was sane when working on like uni assignments with a bunch of people you practically gotta spell the code out for
limpid comet
Yea, that too
brave radish
I used Jitsi (open source facetime) for like a year before I found out that their electron client has built-in remote control support
that would have been useful
golden gust
I just find that for a lot of cases where these tools would be nice, it's more just as an alternative means to screen sharing for people who have stupid screens and such
wraith trail
iirc codewithme has that built in as their video calling system
golden gust
e.g. one of the reasons I ain't streamed ever is cos I have a stupid screen resolution size which is a PITA for streaming
wraith trail
Just read that here, haven't used it/ever had a need
limpid comet
what screen res cat
merry talon
wtf? GitPod is giving me 16 cores and 64G of memory?
wraith trail
He has an imac so errr
golden gust
Resolution: 2880x1620@2x
golden gust
it's a PITA for bandwidth, and font scaling, and just, in general...
peak dirge
Twitter
brave radish
why does it take 87 years to upload releases to GitHub?
waxen panther
does it?
waxen panther
mine is normally like 10mb/s on gh
waxen panther
all my releases are uploaded from ci now though so
brave radish
I was too dumb/lazy to set that up
my actions upload the builds as artifacts, and I download them and upload them as releases when I want to release
merry talon
wait, actions supports artifacts?
waxen panther
yos
merry talon
WHAT
waxen panther
it's pretty epic !
brave radish
actions/upload-artifacts
waxen panther
they go in a stupid zip though but other than it's v cool
wraith trail
Not in a good way though for public stuff
merry talon
oh
wraith trail
That and you have to sign in to download public ones
waxen panther
Yea
merry talon
I see
waxen panther
not bad for making users try test builds
upper flicker
you can use nightly.link to bypass the sign in requirement
brave radish
https://github.com/Spottedleaf/Starlight/pull/41 @merry talon
brave radish
well at least they didn't try touching actual code
merry talon
does anyone have a link to a build that actually has artifacts so I can see what it looks like
merry talon
ty
brave radish
ty broccolai; I was afraid to expose my repo to scrutiny by people who know what they're doing
waxen panther
lol
brave radish
It's literally just a fork that changes one line of code but I still probably did something horribly wrong 😆
waxen panther
worst god damn one loc i've ever seen!
brave radish
not the line I'm concerned about
it's the way I used git to change said line
the line is just changing a boolean from false to true; I think I can at least do that lol
ashen cliff
https://mobile.twitter.com/andreasdotorg/status/989241772437065728
Itanium was epic.
dusty kiln
Hello, I'm looking for a good dedicated server, can anyone recommend me any? I am willing to pay up to $ 43 (or a little more).
dusty kiln
Sad. The dollar rate is very high in Brazil.
twin lagoon
probably best to stick to local brazilian hosts
dusty kiln
probably best to stick to local brazilian hosts
Are awful
left swift
Come to Brazil
dusty kiln
I hate this country, I will get out of here as soon as possible.
warm anchor
Hopefully you get out
waxen panther
good luck 
void void
.flags
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
twin lagoon
you don't need to run the same command in different places
limber knotBOT
mfw windows lies when trying to delete a file from a harddrive which is most likely corrupt
the file just keeps re-appearing
warm anchor
Dotn they have some sort of fail/save feature
I had that happen on one of my portable drive
royal kernel
How does one summon michael
twin lagoon
yes
waxen panther
two two eight eight g
royal kernel
How does one summon zzzCat?
wraith trail
by pinging of course
royal kernel
Definitely
limpid comet
Good idea
lament patio
You can probably do it only once, though
potent fossil
.g define triage
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/triage
potent fossil
now instead of patients/victims, read "pull request and issues"
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by Amaranth#2954 - bug triage - result 1 of 8
royal kernel
Oh thx
warm anchor
Where do I sub to Paper project that I can get a paper chan sticker each month?
golden gust
wtf is paper chan
potent fossil
warm anchor
upper flicker
I think its a meme they made up but Im not sure what the context is
warm anchor
royal kernel
Whos like the “Boss” of paperMC
potent fossil
^
golden gust
seems legit
royal kernel
Not micheal?
warm anchor
no Michale is the hitman that will show up beside your bed at night
warm anchor
yeah aikar is just a bot. His newest feature was RSS feed in #nutrition-science 
royal kernel
So are ur the boss of the discord then
waxen panther
big time
limber knotBOT
that's all thanks to broc!
royal kernel
Def leppard is better!
limber knotBOT
hmm i don't know how long you'll last here
royal kernel
So everyone upstream the boss of everything downstream
royal kernel
What about taco spigot
#general message does that mean summoning him means ur death
Or someone else’s
waxen panther
yes
waxen panther
Yes
royal kernel
As long as micheal doesnt respond im safe
void void
Man, why does Aikar got ogs on all the socials
limpid comet
after 3 days of rigorous training, the loss of blood sweat and tears, and several instances of domestic terrorism, i've finally done it
nginx is running
potent fossil
congrats
limpid comet
thanks
potent fossil
love u
limpid comet
love u 2
hearty compass
Nginx is running but is it really ?
merry talon
does anyone have vesa wall mount recommendations?
I don't trust myself to get one without height adjustment
and none of them seem to have it
limpid comet
no thats my fake ip address
oh ya it's all sorts of fucked right now
just dicking around with stuff rn
playing with rancher now
magic river
After beginning a compiler for the Apple M1 GPU, the next step is to develop a graphics driver exercising the compiler. Since the last post two weeks ago, I’ve begun a Gallium driver for the M1, implementing much of the OpenGL 2.1 and ES 2.0 specifications.
warm anchor
nginx is running
this is famous last word
unkempt drift
Bluely tryna infect computers I see…
golden gust
Typical blue guy
smh
Wait, I messed up
he's like, tainted by hon hon baugette lé fronce, so, more like bleu guy, smh
limpid comet
i think i received a small dose of frenchy while driving through quebec
untold copper
justin
livid plume
any recommended ways to stress test plugins u made? I'm expecting like 300+ to use a parkour checkpoint system at once
was thinking about just manually coding it to make it act as so many people are using it or just botting the server idk
but maybe there are some other ways u guys know of?
potent fossil
cause they got the name wiki and didnt care about the tld
abstract violet
fair
unreal pike
does anyone know for ptero archives...if its taking a long time is it safe to switch out of the tab?
magic river
Worst thing to come out of a Kennedy's mouth since the back of the Kennedy's head.
- John Oliver
Holy shit that's two shows in a row
left swift
Wow
chrome kite
can i say "fuck"
potent fossil
you just did
vernal moth
time to yeet him
limpid comet
with the paper organization?
turbid oar
Yes
quasi valley
paper is sponsored by memes and crushed dreams
turbid oar
So we can not sponsor our company? Even if we pay?
quasi valley
I'm not a "proper" representative, but it's safe to say the answer is "no"
especially for random new host number 349
turbid oar
Gotcha I understand thank you for answering 
minor badge
You're free to toss money our way, but we won't put you on our readme or website unless you get a yes from kash, which I'd deem unlikely
turbid oar
I keep in mind with that
turbid oar
You're free to toss money our way, but we won't put you on our readme or website...
Btw may i ask who is kash?
coarse lily
kashike.
turbid oar
Oh I see
coarse lily
But if your goal is some sort of endorsement that generally goes against the open source nature of Paper.
And most Minecraft projects.
turbid oar
No we are planning to follow the rules and go very big
coarse lily
I wasn’t talking about big or small.
For “endorsement” I meant Paper saying “use this” or “we like this” or something similar
minor badge
We generally don't want to be affiliated with hosts besides a hosts-only channel to share news with them as they have major differences and we only want what's best at the time for our users. Y'all are volatile as all hell :p
coarse lily
Paper isn’t an entity that is focused on making money. It’s open source software for the betterment of the community.
turbid oar
Okay fully understand now
minor badge
I believe Aikar is the only team member who actually... owns a server. Cat & chicken work for some, but that's about it
quasi valley
oh so thats why he's so slow? 
merry talon
right so how do we stop kids from using their money on shared host number 69420 instead of for better causes
people aren't suggesting you don't do so because they don't want you to succeed, more so because it's a legitimately terrible financial decision
just a tidbit
vernal moth
We need look into sponsors (and in, your logo in a small spot on the website) in the future when our infra costs increase thanks to hangar
But I somehow highly doubt we would accept hosts for that
Cause generally, everybody hates hosts cause they more often than not, decide to do dum stuff
merry talon
Yeah, usually because it's a saturated market with no room for innovation so your business model doesn't really work
but keep trying anyways, maybe you'll be the one to make it right?
olive garden
isn't that the entire mc for-profit-server community?
merry talon
It seems particularly bad with the hosting business because you can throw it together with 2 pieces of software and like nothing else
minor badge
We need look into sponsors (and in, your logo in a small spot on the website) in...
how much do you reckon hangar could even increase the costs by though
perhaps better to talk about internally actually 😅
vernal moth
Not that much, but still an increase
Mostly the storage I guess but we have solutions for that
minor badge
wasabi + CF caching would probably work fine there
woven otter
no. bad
untold copper
question: I have my router on the top of my desk and the PC below the desk, and they are connected by a CAT 5 Cable.
Will switching to a 6E make a visible difference?
untold copper
I see ok thank
vernal moth
A friend of mine wants me to write him a bedwars plugin, wants to have own servers where he can play with youtube friends, cause else they getting sniped
Am lazy, what public good bedwars plugin ppl have experience with here that an I sell as my own throw at him?
minor badge
why doesn't he just use hypixel MVP++/YT private games
untold copper
Am lazy, what public good bedwars plugin ppl have experience with here that an I...
Just try all of them
woven otter
there was one spigot premium one
vernal moth
Guess he doesn't want to pay for hypixel? Also, EU friends, hypixel is us
Gotta have those sub 10ms latencys for da spam clicking!
Actually surprised it's that bad, seems he grew quite fast
I don't monitor his youtube channel, let's see
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@untold copper Just get one smh
untold copper
.-.
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it's like 100€ for a sane one smh
limber knotBOT
untold copper
8,914.22
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not TB
cringing
untold copper
smh
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awa
wide chasm
Am lazy, what public good bedwars plugin ppl have experience with here that an I...
There was a bedwars plugin on dbo, 1+ million downloads iirc, that one was pretty okay from what I remember
Let me try find the link
Not quite a million, but I think it was this one: https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/bedwars
Last release in 2021, so guessing it's still working on latest version
vernal moth
Not open source as far as I can tell
I send something already that looked sane and was open source, they will try it out
wide chasm
Only used it myself a couple years ago, so never looked into if it was open source and stuff
olive garden
@potent warren might know one, he's as obsessed with minigame plugins as I am with aviation
potent warren
Am lazy, what public good bedwars plugin ppl have experience with here that an I...
The one I know that just works™️ from the top of my head is Screaming Bedwars made by ScreamingSandals (https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/63714/). They're super friendly and responsive on their Discord and everything.
There's even an addon for it that makes it more Hypixel like.
potent warren
<@!318033838330609665> might know one, he's as obsessed with minigame plugins as...
Yes, sadly I am obsessed with that.
potent warren
That should be a good one
vernal moth
I really wanna work on VGL sometime
potent warren
If they have any issues, tell your friend to join their Discord. They're nice and easily approachable. I'm also friends with a few devs on there
vernal moth
But I also wanna work on so much else
potent warren
I really wanna work on VGL sometime
I ended up making my own minigame framework for my hypixel clone https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/726473018142097409.png?size=64
The requirements are a bit different from your project anyway https://streamable.com/5bspde
crystal brook
twin lagoon
.ask
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
potent warren
Also, it might be better to go to a help channel
limpid comet
🤣 🤣 🤣
waxen panther
🙂
limpid comet
i haven't slept since yesterday but its been pretty good
other than my friend not renewing the dedi and the server is now gone
warm anchor
???
warm anchor
Blue got fucked in the ass for nothing? I mean nginx
limpid comet
yaas
so epic
tbh im ok with this
because i can now restart from a new debian image
twin lagoon
he still has like 3 days to renew it before ovh deletes data
limpid comet
how long is the deadline? its been unpaid for since the first, only now they shut it off
waxen panther
limpid comet
i told him about this like a week ago
warm anchor
Today is probably the deadline...
warm anchor
I think they bill on 1st
limpid comet
he should be up soon
warm anchor
Still have hope!
twin lagoon
eternity 
warm anchor
Good morning Michael
limpid comet
🙏 thank you for the love and support
waxen panther
😔 ❗
limpid comet
lol @ having money
warm anchor
limpid comet
48c is out of the budget i'm afraid
waxen panther
oh my free credits ran out months ago
waxen panther
cheapest they do lol
twin lagoon
Please provide the remaining 12 digits of your Visa card @waxen panther
and the 3 digits on the back
waxen panther
123456754321711
potent warren
make sure to give the full name that's on the front of the Visa Card
warm anchor
Lies the checksum don’t work 
waxen panther
limpid comet
if you had one thing to buy on brocc's card what would it be
potent warren
if you had one thing to buy on brocc's card what would it be
who are you asking to?
twin lagoon
noodles
warm anchor
if you had one thing to buy on brocc's card what would it be
Your heart 
twin lagoon
he doesn't have any money left after the 3090
waxen panther
TRUE
limpid comet
but was it worth it brocc
warm anchor
He doesn’t know yet. Still not installed
nova plume
Case
waxen panther
im not at my room
nova plume
He needs case
warm anchor
A case that will fit that thicc boy
waxen panther
at my parents rn
limpid comet
oh
waxen panther
getting the train back on tuesday
waxen panther
my account is going to be a whole lot more empty when it doesnt fit and i have to buy a new case & psu
limpid comet
monka
cedar spade
hello
warm anchor
Everything fits with just a bit of cutting brocco
cedar spade
👀
limpid comet
everyone rejoice
nova plume
Let’s make him broke let’s go
waxen panther
nova plume
Yes
waxen panther
genius
cedar spade
can keep case and PSU
warm anchor
Just leave side panel open
limpid comet
well if ur sawing it in half
warm anchor
And maybe cut a bit of the side panel off
limpid comet
just plug both halfs in
warm anchor
It will fit
nova plume
😳
limpid comet
ok well if u get rid of everything else in the case u can probably fit it
warm anchor
Yeahhh
limpid comet
just run jumpers
nova plume
Or sand it down
nova plume
That’s a lot of sanding
warm anchor
Just apply lube
nova plume
Might as well get a saw
warm anchor
You got this
warm anchor
😳
limpid comet
max length = 300mm
card length = 355mm
300mm/355mm = 0.9
ur gonna have to settle for 90% of a 3090 bro
a 2781
warm anchor
Wow bluely big brain
waxen panther
2781 is more than a 1080
nova plume
I’d take a 2781
waxen panther
i'll take it
limpid comet
should i setup a kube cluster in my basement with a old homeserver and two pi 4s
warm anchor
Try run Minecraft server on it
vernal moth
@mental meadow, we really need to play league together again, found a new build a like and made 3 pentas in the last few days, lmao
Used my lunch break for a quick fuck pentakill
vernal moth
Uuuhii
mental meadow
mental meadow
Our pancakes are thin, you'd call them crêpes but crêpes are even thinner
turbid oar
Okay yah I saw your guys past comments. Minis and Sweepys. We are not just going to be a hosting company. We are going to be a gaming company
Too
turbid oar
Oh stop with the summer hosts
We are not close to one
Summer hosts usually end and were not quitting
left swift
That's what the summerhosts say too before the guy that has access to the account runs with the money
turbid oar
Lol we got it under control. This isnt a joke
waxen panther
🙂
waxen panther
Are you just here to advertise it or what
turbid oar
No
waxen panther
looks like all your accounts were made like 15 days ago so
you're not super trust worthy
turbid oar
My other account is deleted from my list
turbid oar
Are you just here to advertise it or what
Just that people are freaking saying it's a summer host when its not
left swift
Guys I have money trust me tell me that credit card number, expiration, and the ccv code on the back trust me I wont stop trust me
vernal moth
prove us wrong then
turbid oar
We will mini
waxen panther
lol
left swift
They always have the same avatar styles too some weird snapchat emoji thing of themselves
What was that snapchat thing called
turbid oar
It's not snapchat it's a website
turbid oar
Nah
waxen panther
bitmoji but slightly higher quality
left swift
Do you use pterodactyl or multicraft
turbid oar
Multicraft it's being a bitch sometimes 😆
left swift
Lol
twin lagoon
multicraft in 2021 
turbid oar
We are planning to move to pterodactyl
twin lagoon
you haven't even started your host yet there's no reason not to use pterodactyl now
turbid oar
True
left swift
No offense to you as a person probably but everything you've said literally checks all boxes for a summerhost lmao that's why people are calling you a summerhost
twin lagoon
turbid oar
I discuss this in my group meeting about switching to Pterodactyl
turbid oar
No offense to you as a person probably but everything you've said literally chec...
Well I am sorry you guys had that past experience with those type of people you cannot decide if this is true or not
left swift
limpid comet
I come with good news
left swift
I come with bad news
woven otter
Oh no not good news
left swift
Server snacc
I was scrimming with my team last night on csgo and the other team had a pro player join them as a ringer :(
turbid oar
Oh I used to love that game I need to go back to it
woven otter
Maybe you should
turbid oar
Sure while I am working I download it in the background
dull linden
anyone have an idea how to proxy traffic through ubuntu? xd
worn ember
like you would on any other system im pretty sure
dull linden
yea but im new at this lol
would setting up openvpn give me a direction? xd
half pewter
you could make so all requests are to the same port on the proxy but first thing it does is tell the proxy ip:port to connect to
dull linden
oki
wraith trail
There are a number of ways to approach that, but which one to use depends on what your end goal is. What is the bigger issue that your trying to solve?
dull linden
not really a direct issue, but good to know for the future i think, especially for protecting mc servers in development that aren't hooked onto tcpshield yet
waxen panther
we do a little gaming
turbid oar
Do you guys play terraria?
turbid oar
I never tried out mods on terraria
waxen panther
Is modding out for latest yet
left swift
Idk I played it a few months ago
untold copper
same
quasi valley
we do a little gaming
waxen panther
worn ember
worn ember
yes
waxen panther
pogchampion
left swift
Wtf someone deleted my pogchampion emote 
worn ember
woven otter
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/22396388/space-x-elon-musk-starlink-too-bright-astronomy-stars-pollution
This made me sad
waxen panther
i blame php
limpid comet
another guy reported the same issue
but the admin said he's the only guy who reported it
i just grabbed it from sf
vernal moth
Php is for boomers
turbid oar
LMAO
waxen panther
aber agrees
mental meadow
works fine for me
waxen panther
nameless in react!
left swift
I write in wordpress 😎
mental meadow
I write too much in PHP
mental meadow
No it's pain
turbid oar
oh?
mental meadow
don't encourage self harm
turbid oar
You can get good jobs that way
I teach myself php even though I stress over it and everytime I do it I get very good at it
topaz mortar
The only time I wrote something in PHP was during college. That's 6 years ago. Never touched it again.
spiral robin
php 7.x and 8 modernized the language a lot, with frameworks like laravel providing great communities and tools for its future
turbid oar
lol college is expensive where I live
half pewter
i wrote PHP alot for websites before i changed to my own website system
turbid oar
I know what php looks like I just want to see your work
half pewter
hmm well i didnt make much advanced stuff, was more of the basic POST-GET-files stuff
turbid oar
I am trying to make a forums website out of php lmao its hard
left swift
php 7.x and 8 modernized the language a lot, with frameworks like laravel provid...
Sounds like propaganda to me
mental meadow
any ideas for a computer that suddenly randomly stops booting for a while until you reset it? Sadly the motherboard doesn't have beeps or any other indicators :/ I'd guess the power supply, but idk
turbid oar
I know mybb and namelessmc though 😆
turbid oar
who wants to see spaghetti code
oh heck no lol
mental meadow
sounds like the fans spin up for a second and then it resets again, nothing else
half pewter
i like saving bytes
mental meadow
I do have an idea what it might be but that would be annoying
left swift
Depending how old the mobo is there could be a direct power button on it somewhere near the edge
half pewter
any ideas for a computer that suddenly randomly stops booting for a while until ...
so it boots up, doesn't actually run?
left swift
Reseat the ram
mental meadow
Na, I think it's a power issue tbh
It doesn't even come that far in the boot phase
left swift
No post huh
mental meadow
It's on a power brick with like 20 other things because we have like 2 power outlets in this room, maybe it's just too much power drawn
left swift
Oof lol
mental meadow
Which would also explain why it sometimes works and it sometimes doesn't
but it wouldn't explain the system randomly freezing, but that might potentially just be stupid nvidia drivers in linux
worn ember
no such thing as too much power drawn, if it draws too much current your breaker will jump
otherwise it should work fine
olive garden
bro my breaker ain't going nowhere
those things aren't cheap
I ain't letting it just jump away on me
worn ember
tie it up with a copper wire
worn ember
people be like: "why my house burn down??"
those same people: bridging their breakers
olive garden
hahaha nice of you to assume that the house wouldn't burn down otherwise
soviet-era electricity networks are amazing
worn ember
if its not your fault your insurance should cover it tho
half pewter
yeah annoying to have a burntdown house though
worn ember
true
half pewter
cant relate tho ngl
olive garden
mixing copper and aluminium wire with just duct tape instead of that "mixer box"
I guess that was state-of-the-art back then
mental meadow
if its not your fault your insurance should cover it tho
We just got our new insurance policy today and after carefully reading it I found out that no, it does not, which kinda surprises me. They don't pay for fires caused by shorts or similar, only if it is related to a lightning
worn ember
then you can still try to get your money from whoever installed your electricity
mental meadow
ah yeah good luck, that was like 40 years ago
worn ember
just dont burn it down lol
half pewter
time to become elictrician
mental meadow
on our breaker box there is a sticker saying that the next check-up is supposed to be in november
1998
worn ember
my dads an electrician and my sister is dating one, so i wont have a shortage of them 
olive garden
why, will your nephew also be an electrician?
worn ember
what?
mental meadow
maybe ded is an electrician
mental meadow
please don't date your sister
worn ember
olive garden
I think he's from belgium, not alabama
worn ember
^^
mental meadow
now I'm wondering if every country has a state like alabama. In germany it would be Saarland
left swift
I would say if you ever got back into your PC to check event viewer but you're not on windows are you?
mental meadow
not my PC 😄
worn ember
we only have the gangsta neighborhoods afaik
left swift
Deds version of gangsta neighborhoods are the ones that leave the trash cans out on the street past noon
olive garden
I would kind of be jealous of ded in that case
worn ember
the ones throwing around grenades in the streets lol
olive garden
I think that's called domestic terrorism
ashen cliff
Make sure to fire at least 2 fireworks per week, to keep the rent down.
olive garden
that's actually amazing
left swift
Grenade attacks smh
Why don't you be like the usa and have good grenade laws
If you give them semiautomatic weapons you wont have to worry about grenades
worn ember
its easier to get grenades than guns here
left swift
Concealed carry grenade law so you can be safe
worn ember
then again some foreign clashing clans did run around with ak-47's a few weeks ago shooting at each other
left swift
If you just give the good guys grenades the bad guys with grenades wont be a problem!
worn ember
everyone should be allowed to carry grenades, and it should be like CoD that when you die it triggers and explodes
that'd be funny
left swift
Martyrdom
worn ember
imagine if like someone got a heart attack in a mall and suddenly half the mall explodes and its a chain reaction of explosions
michael bay would be proud
anyone else just ever press tab in intellij when typing a param name and just hope intellij magically figures out what ur trying to type? xD
native wolf
nova plume
Is it just me or when you hit enter in IntelliJ and alt tab to something else, eg discord, and tab back the cursor is at the very left of the pane instead of where it was before you tabbed out, indented
peak ginkgo
@upbeat falcon
upbeat falconBOT
<@!811281085723705395>
My prefix is: ;.
twin lagoon
;
quasi valley
;-;
quasi valley
cat, helping the poor as always
waxen panther
he's so generous 💞
wraith trail
;dehoist
mossy vessel
Everything is logged, no need to delete your messages
worn ember
half pewter
spy
woven otter
I
magic river
foggy veldt
I wish hangar modrinth and spigot resources would combine despite any difference to create one centralized plugin repository 
Well I guess technically modrinth is mods
dusk drift
golden gust
spigot literally forbids all automated access to their site and their gloruious leader is literally the most elusive "community leader"
quasi valley
the leader of openly closed source™️
woven otter
it's kinda how this kind of community is
coarse lily
Holy shit https://twitter.com/ProjectJosiee/status/1388672650277384193
That's gotta be like 2000 calories.
cunning raft
minimum
upper flicker
Wtf is that
worn ember
wtf its eyeman
upper flicker
wtf its darkeyedragon
worn ember
wanna touch eyes?
magic river
Oh hey Bill Gates is getting divorced
worn ember
kek
worn ember
ah yes security cabinet with screws on the outside 
void void
Yo do you guys know of any gmail checkers? Like to check specific emails to see if their available like marcelxxxx@gmail.com where x represents numbers.
waxen panther
pov ur an idiot
brave radish
in fact they're not even right
vestal jasper
Oof
pulsar wigeon
isn't there a place for bad memes?
brave radish
the terminal is in /
vestal jasper
Yes there is
pulsar wigeon
oh yea, 🚮
brave radish
so it isn't necessarily that the file exists; a normal user couldn't create a file in /
and how on Earth can a file have elevated permissions?
Even as a joke that was bad
</rant>
brave radish
There's a difference
The first guy was mocking someone being funny
I was mocking someone being dumb
"in fact" was adding on to my 
on "pov ur an idiot"
merry talon
wtf
Bill and melinda literally have a whole foundation together
I did not see this coming
unkempt drift
wait really?
wraith trail
that one is paywalled, heres another https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/03/tech/bill-and-melinda-gates-divorce/index.html
brave radish
Melinda got tired of having to use Windows
brave radish
"We ask for space and privacy for our family as we begin to navigate this new life," the pair said in their statement Monday.
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation did not immediately return a request for comment from CNN Business.
difference between talking to the Gates themselves and asking the foundation for comment but like...
from the MC Discord #worst-puns-ever:
“If you ask Rick Astley for a DVD of the movie “Up”, he will not give it to you because he is Never Gonna Give You Up. However by not giving you Up, even though you asked for it, he is letting you down. This is known as the Astley Paradox.”
unkempt drift
worst puns? are you kidding me? that needs a room all to itself in The Pun Hall of Fame
that is one of the greatest things I've read
waxen panther
isnt that the gif that crashes some peoples clients
pulsar wigeon
pretty sure yea
waxen panther
machine delete it !! 😡
woven otter
It is
vestal jasper
Literally named "Discord Crash"
waxen panther
@cunning raft 
❗
woven otter
@waxen panther
waxen panther
true
vestal jasper
@waxen panther
woven otter
@waxen panther
brave radish
worst puns? are you kidding me? that needs a room all to itself in The Pun Hall ...
a lot of puns in there are really really good
waxen panther
i agree
brave radish
only reason I'm there
waxen panther
cringe !
trail pasture
yee))0
waxen panther
no 17 kb is nothing you're fine
brave radish
I mean... I'm sure somehow it's possible but like... worth it? no
brave radish
Hard drives are split into sections (probably 4k in your case) that files can take up. Even if it only needs half of a "block," it has to allocate the whole thing, which is why it can take more disk space than it is large