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nova plume
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And setting it as executable

crystal compass
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 Hard  3 minutes ```
nova plume
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Wut is a .desktop

golden gust
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java files aren't executable files

nova plume
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I’ve seen it but never opened it

upbeat falconBOT
nova plume
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Where would I need to put the file, in home?

royal kernel
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but you can save a java file as a jar though and make it executable right?

golden gust
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no

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java files are, as said, not executable

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you execute the JVM

nova plume
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I tried but nothing happens lol

magic river
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lmao, the suggested solution on stack overflow for how to do this is to install software I wrote over a decade ago

nova plume
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lmao

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Link it here

golden gust
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for the jar to run with java, you basically have some config somewhere which tells it pass the script to java, just as like with say, a png file opens with your image tool

magic river
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The answer is for running a single jar, not for making something to handle all of them

nova plume
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Then I’ll just stick to doing java -jar. I’ll make a macro then

magic river
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Yeah look at /usr/share/applications/evince.desktop or some such and make a copy in ~/.local/share/applications/java.desktop that is modified to run java instead

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Change the name and such too of course

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You'll see when you open the file

worn ember
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i was gonna say: make a desktop shortcut but sounds like linoox

nova plume
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Yes, linoox

royal kernel
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linoox>windows

nova plume
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^

crystal compass
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linuxtechtips OS

nova plume
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Pls Anthony do a series on Linux

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Pls

royal kernel
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Yes

waxen panther
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no please not anthony

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anyone else

nova plume
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Why

royal kernel
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Anthony's amazing

crystal compass
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pls do another series on nvidia

nova plume
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Anthony’s the best

waxen panther
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in a recent episode they zoomed in on his teeth

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and idk man

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cant look at him anymore

nova plume
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Don’t look at his teeth then

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

waxen panther
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hard when they zoomed in 5000%!

royal kernel
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Look at the pc instead

nova plume
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Look at the RGB

royal kernel
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do you guys like debian or arch

worn ember
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No

royal kernel
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debian fr me

nova plume
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I prefer Debian cos I’ve only used it

worn ember
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well tbh debian is fine

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ion know about arch

nova plume
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Same

waxen panther
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depends what it's for lol

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they're very different distros

royal kernel
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manjaros update system is messed up tho

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manjaro ruined arch for me

golden gust
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Manjaro?

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You mean arch for people too stupid to arch?

magic river
royal kernel
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its an arch distro

nova plume
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I’ve never tried arch and I don’t pay attention to that side of Linux so idk

waxen panther
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yea

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stupid arch

royal kernel
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debian is better then arch

golden gust
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I tried using Manjaro once as like a sorta, "I cba doing this" type deal, and, just, urgh...

magic river
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I want something like arch but with dpkg

golden gust
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like, the defaults are just so bastardized it's a pita

magic river
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So I guess I want sid

wraith trail
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They're for different things

worn ember
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do we really need to go there again

nova plume
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Kermit back!!!

golden gust
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Arch is nice to be on the bleeding edge, but, it also comes with a lot less crud in the forum of the debian peeps babying you in

wraith trail
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No one sane will run arch on anything but a desktop/random server they don't care about

golden gust
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if you're using arch anywhere where you care about stuff, you're a moron

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glances over at Z

royal kernel
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Debians so darn stable

wraith trail
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But with that comes shipping older stuff

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So they are for different things

magic river
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debian sid is usually rock solid too

golden gust
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part of why I love macOS, really

wraith trail
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You get even older stuff!

golden gust
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you get one OS, you can change the desktop background and use the dark theme and that's basically it more or less

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not even older stuff

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BSD stuff!

magic river
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bash 3!

golden gust
wraith trail
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Idk if it applies globally over there but the screen version shipped is 10+ years old

worn ember
royal kernel
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Mac is great were it just works

magic river
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Yeah because they won't ship GPLv3 stuff

golden gust
magic river
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So all the GNU things they have just stopped getting updates

royal kernel
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thats the downside lol

wraith trail
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Installed via homebrew or something?

golden gust
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Yea

pulsar wigeon
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Music Video)

worn ember
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i love this disclamer

Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.

basically "i give as little shits about stuff breaking as i'm legally allowed to give"

magic river
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All software has that

worn ember
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i like it

magic river
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The others just hide it in a massive EULA that also lets them spy on you

worn ember
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true

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Samsung Magician is like "so we can optimize your drives but we get basically all the data you own on them kekw"

royal kernel
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does homebrew get rid of your warranty?

potent fossil
potent fossil
worn ember
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what warranty?

potent fossil
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homebrew is just installing a package manager, it would be removed if you reinstalled macos anyway

golden gust
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homebrew itself does not come with any warranty

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But, it does not void your macs warranty

jovial edge
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Hiyo!

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Considering papermc vs lithium/sodium/phosphor for improving server performance. What would be the pros/cons for the differing performance boosters?

potent fossil
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paper is not a client mod

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it is software for running a server that people can join

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so? o.o

worn ember
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dont they run on the server too?

jovial edge
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They do

golden gust
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paper has vanilla behavioral differences because spigot/craftbukkit

worn ember
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but yeah plugins

golden gust
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paper also has some of its own but most are configurable

nova plume
potent fossil
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oh they're plugins? o.O

golden gust
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beyond that it's really, plugins, and vs pure vanilla

worn ember
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no

jovial edge
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No

worn ember
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mods

potent fossil
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well then you're actually running sponge then, no?

jovial edge
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They're mods, that only need server side

worn ember
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i mean paper supports plugins

golden gust
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they're fabric mods

jovial edge
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Clients can optionally dl

golden gust
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you don't need to have fabric installed to join a fabric server so long as you don't have any client required mods afaik

potent fossil
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ok i clearly have no idea what im talking about ima bow out

nova plume
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quiltmc wen

worn ember
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do you for forge?

golden gust
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no

royal kernel
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well papers a server but fabric has a server and client

nova plume
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Forge is weird

golden gust
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like, you needed to like, years ago, but, not these days

worn ember
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well ig they do filter out forge packets if ur not on forge or something

jovial edge
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Deciding between the two for the better server performance. Wht's everyone thinking?

golden gust
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depends

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if you care about vanilla mechanics, use fabric

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if you want plugins, use paper

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those mods are able to screw with stuff more as they don't gotta deal with an upstream as much of a PITA as spigot is

worn ember
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thats actually a pretty interesting concept thonk

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server side only mods that add gameplay functionality

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but ig it'd be hard to know whats possible and what not without the mod

golden gust
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fabric and forge can already do that

worn ember
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sure, but its not done much

golden gust
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you're just bound to the same limitations as paper, etc, in that we can't modify that

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Because there's no real need to

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if you're not modifying the base game, plugin based environments are much more "supportable"

worn ember
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yeah makes sense

jovial edge
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Unpack your sentences, vanilla mechanics v. plugins?

warm anchor
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It's your choice?

golden gust
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paper supports plugins, but, everything upstream breaks vanilla stuff, e.g. redstone

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paper also fucks with vanilla stuff to, but, we aim for the greater good, e.g. bug fixes, such as dupe/crash exploits

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fabric doesn't touch vanilla stuff, doesn't support the plugin ecosystem we have either, but has mods which are able to mess more with server internals vs paper who has to support plugins which work with spigot

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(So, those fabric mods have it much easier in terms of tryna improve performance)

jovial edge
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Then wht abt taking the best from both worlds? The big three w/ their performance enhancement and paper w/ the fixes?

worn ember
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ohnonono

golden gust
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there is none

vestal jasper
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You don't do that

jovial edge
golden gust
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quite simply what I said

warm anchor
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You cant have cake and eat it too @jovial edge

vestal jasper
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They're two different platforms.

golden gust
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There is no middle ground between the two

worn ember
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best you can do there is sponge, but idk if sponge works well with sodium and whatever element mod

golden gust
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they're two entirely different platforms

wraith trail
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sponge doesn't do that

unkempt drift
wraith trail
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nor is it fabric

waxen panther
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sponge only supports forge mods lol

jovial edge
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So, they need major customizing to work together or?

waxen panther
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and even then sponge forge is still on 1.12

worn ember
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therse a forge fabric in the makes

wraith trail
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they don't work together

worn ember
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derp

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sponge fabric

wraith trail
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they would have great overlap and no one sane will ever do that

golden gust
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the API in paper, by extention of bukkit, literally cannot work along side mods in a stable manner

wraith trail
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I mean, erm, fukkit

waxen panther
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it'd be like trying to put a car windshield onto a tricycle

golden gust
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it's like tryna have two different things speaking a different language work together

wraith trail
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but that's just the bukkit api, not paper

jovial edge
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Ahhh

golden gust
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projects like fukkit are more upon consistent hacks to try to shim support between the two which often fails

jovial edge
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It'd be easier to pick one and modify it

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Instead of even attempting of tying them together

golden gust
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I've yet to see a bukkit + forge hybrid last a few versions

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ideally you'd just port the stuff you want across

worn ember
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dw they'll pop up eventually

jovial edge
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^

limpid comet
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and then they'll go away

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and then the cycle repeats

worn ember
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the cycle of life

golden gust
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I mean, there are projects which have tried to marry the two but they flop each release cycle as it's practically an unmaintainable mess

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90% of the work is basically plugin-specific shims more or less

royal kernel
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id just use paper unless you want mods

jovial edge
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How do both of them react to dps?

golden gust
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We do intend to port patches from those mods over when we can, it's just the time commitment for it

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There are forks downstream which try to but generally pull the patches without understanding them, which often leads to stuff breaking and being reverted, is all fun

worn ember
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just make an issue report saying "shit no work kbye"

royal kernel
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or you have yatopia which attempt to make there own patches, that are bad

vestal jasper
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They've done what cat said an uncountable amount of times

golden gust
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majority of their patches are ports from elsewhere

worn ember
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yatopia? more like no

royal kernel
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I would use airplane, but nothing after that

worn ember
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why contribute when you can fork amirite

waxen panther
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we stan tuinity in this house hold

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i mean what

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paperUwU ❗

worn ember
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ah yes the furry clan

golden gust
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I wouldn't recommend any fork which aims to act as a commercial product in any capacity off the backs of volunteers

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I get that our PR queue is fun, we're down to 100 PRs though

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So, only one or two more PRs before somebody submits 20 in a weekend

potent fossil
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lol airplane

vestal jasper
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@waxen panther flushed

waxen panther
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😳

tawdry girder
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Oh hey, the pr queue is down, time to make my first paper pr!

worn ember
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well at least you got an active team now

golden gust
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eeeehhhhh

worn ember
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seems like core team doesnt have that much time on their hands these days (except cat cuz he does fuck all all day)

waxen panther
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he does fuck all day

golden gust
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I think pandemic wiped a good chunk of us out with workload elsewhere

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I know aikar is busy as all fuck

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kash is, kash

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Z is as close to AWOL as can be

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Demon? who the fuck is demon

waxen panther
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z is doing something very important right now

worn ember
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kash be pooping out projects left and right lol

waxen panther
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cant tell you want but it is crucial

limpid comet
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so what i'm hearing is

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bluely for core team

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2021

waxen panther
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true!

cosmic raft
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no

limpid comet
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lets make it happen people

waxen panther
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he's already blue

worn ember
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who?

golden gust
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who the fuck is bluely?

limpid comet
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fuck u guys

waxen panther
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☹️

worn ember
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later

limpid comet
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except toilet paper man

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the voice of the people

cosmic raft
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for one

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you spelt bleuly wrong

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two, no

limpid comet
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three, yes ?

royal kernel
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how does someone get on the core team?

limpid comet
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it all depends on how blue your name is

golden gust
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Okay, so, he's french, I get it

limpid comet
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see im not quite there yet

worn ember
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just increase the blue a bit every day

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they wont notice

golden gust
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core team is practically solid

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We got too much of a good dynamic going on that we don't wanna ruin it by kissing

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I mean, changing it

royal kernel
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its pretty great how many updates get put out

limpid comet
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we all know ur all kissing

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in ur secret channels

worn ember
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Where has Aikar been? haven't seen him around in a loonggg time

cosmic raft
waxen panther
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jmp for the team above development team wen

warm anchor
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dont die

magic river
royal kernel
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then you become the hacker

merry talon
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i only buy from companies that say their product is unhackable

limpid comet
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smart ^

modest path
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show me him

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i will fight them

limpid comet
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wtf

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@waxen panther this guy tryna start beef

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fight fight fight

modest path
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oh no

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brocoli is a toilet paper now?

limpid comet
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a printer vs the voice of the people

modest path
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i thought you meant literally a toilet paper man

waxen panther
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Can’t wipe ur ass with a printer I’ll tell you that much

modest path
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hell no i'm outta here

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nah but you can stick it up yours

waxen panther
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I don’t think you could

modest path
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wanna bet 😳

waxen panther
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i uhh

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🏃

cunning raft
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i hate broc's nickname

waxen panther
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you set it !

cunning raft
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who

waxen panther
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you !

cunning raft
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idk who that is

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sorry

waxen panther
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@upper flicker ur moderators are out of control

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we need paper 3

modest path
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gone

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decimated

upper flicker
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I fixed it

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that'll be $4

waxen panther
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lets call it $0 and a covid-safe handshake

upper flicker
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do we have to shake hands

unkempt drift
waxen panther
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no i'll just send the handshake emoji

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🤝

upper flicker
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🤝

unkempt drift
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That’s the next big scandal. People finding out EA has owned paper all along

upper flicker
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They havent passed down the big bag of money yet if so

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jerks 😠

unkempt drift
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Aikar just took it all for himself tho

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Didn’t tell anyone

upper flicker
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that would explain how he was able to afford all that 5hr

unkempt drift
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And steak

true canyon
void void
golden gust
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no

void void
golden gust
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Nothing screams "good fork" like people who steal attribution

void void
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Not stonks

potent fossil
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also an uninspired copy of "SportBukkit"

void void
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i did something really stupid but i set the ij font to 72 now i can't do anything

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how do i fix this

potent fossil
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lul

golden gust
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settings are in some xml files somewhere

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.g intellij configuration directory

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Sorry, no results.

golden gust
untold copper
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@spiral robin hello :3

void void
crystal compass
unreal quarry
wraith trail
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That was actually painful to watch

void void
prime pawn
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My system admin believes DynMap hogs server resources. Do any of you have a better alternative you could possibly suggest?

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I'd ask on Spigot's Discord, but no one ever has anything useful to say .-.

unreal quarry
prime pawn
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Thanks Billy!

untold copper
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Link where

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epicest

viral hornet
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don't say bad word michael

golden gust
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I think that the right looks better

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But, I mean, I also went to the length of shoving a resource pack on my dynmap isntall to make it sexier

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hint for saving disk space is to disable the perspectives you don't want

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then again, left looks more sorta like "zelda mappy"

unreal quarry
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The in-game map was the inspiration for the style ^_^

golden gust
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be nicer if it had a bit of a better like, "depth perspective"

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like, it seems edge biased

unreal quarry
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Yeah, it is. That's how mojang made it

golden gust
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Somebody needs to fork pl3xmap

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with blackjack, and hookers!

unreal quarry
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Looks a lot better than alternating light/dark on %2 Y axis, tho ^_^

vernal moth
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when godot 4 releases am totally will transform my godot minecraft client into a web app and see how that looks

golden gust
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Oh, mini, nice .me domain

vernal moth
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I didnt use it anyways, want to use my last name more 😄

unreal quarry
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This is from mobile, but it's the best map I can find on google quickly that shows the edge detection from mojang :3

unknown.jpeg
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There are some differences in Pl3xMap, like we added correct biome coloring (with custom biomes from datapack support) etc

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I kinda want to touch the edge detection stuff, but the lines would end up looking too thick in most places, imo

prime pawn
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What have I started >_>

unreal quarry
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I'm growing partial to the existing look ^_^ it's just enough to portray the heightmap, but not too much that it's over powering :p

unreal quarry
golden gust
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Yea, well, billy

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if it wasn't so shit /s

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❤️

prime pawn
golden gust
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I mean, it's okay, I've never used the vanilla maps too much tbqh, I just think that the dynmaps tone is a tad better, but looks like there are also changes in the world whichkinda ruins the comparision a bit looking at it deeper

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.billy

limber knotBOT
unreal quarry
prime pawn
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Wait, wouldn't you be able to make multiple styles and have those styles selectable both in game and the web browser? 🤔

golden gust
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not without eating more disk space if he's just generating images

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could just have a list of renderers or something for it

prime pawn
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Hm, yeah fair enough

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I was thinking along the lines of whenever a chunk is loaded, store the chunks top block data in memory and save whenever the server stops and have that data to render in whatever style the users chooses. You could probably even render chunks that haven't been loaded at all as well, based on the world seed. I'm not sure, probably thinking about this wrong 🤔

unreal quarry
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Multiple renders are planned.. I want to add another renderer that only shows biomes. From there it will have the ability for add-ons to add their own renderers ^_^

golden gust
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That's sooorta what bluemap I think it was does

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But, eats a metric fuckton of disk space

unreal quarry
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I thought about a cave renderer, but that'll just look like shit in 2d lol

golden gust
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probs be fun to look at, but as for use, god knows

prime pawn
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Oh kind of like when you go into a cave in Zelda or other games and the minimap changes?

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Would be cool looking if that's the case and a hell of a lot easier to find caves 🤣

supple briar
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Hello, our machine is currently housed in the Hertzner company. Does anyone know of a company that makes sense in terms of better features and price?

golden gust
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You're in the budget range

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and a dedi is a dedi, it's like... You have control over the full box, am not sure what "features" you'd be missing

supple briar
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our currently hardware is

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price 42 euro

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I wrote for suggestions from another company like Hertzner

spiral robin
foggy elbow
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hetzner is so bad in term of temperatures..

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I tried their ryzen 9 5950x, it was running at 85-90°c and they told me "80° is fine"

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(I was in performance mode) and my frequency was never upper 3.8 (because of the temperature)..

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So I got back to OVH, and I got 4.° on my xeon e-2288g, and 4.6-4.7Ghz all the time

vernal moth
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ah yes

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comparing a desktop to a server cpu

foggy elbow
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I was using a ryzen 3800x from ovh before, no problem of temperature 🙂

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it was 40-50°c

vernal moth
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at which point?

golden gust
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OVH water cool in most their DCs afaik

foggy elbow
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with bungee+hub+server online with 100 players

vernal moth
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I mean with which sensor...

foggy elbow
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hetzner was 85° with only 3 players 🙂

vernal moth
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I have a watercooled 3800x and I go above 50c, lmao

golden gust
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player count is irrelevant with how mc works

vernal moth
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on die

foggy elbow
golden gust
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Like, the CPU is always churning

foggy elbow
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I got a watercooled i9-9900kf and I don't go upper 50° while in games

vernal moth
foggy elbow
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with corsair 150i pro 360mm

vernal moth
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thats what I got too

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but I let it run in silent mode

foggy elbow
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same

vernal moth
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and my cpu pulls > 190w, lmao

foggy elbow
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not mine zjesus

vernal moth
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well, thats what 12 overclocked cores do to you 😄

golden gust
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I mean, those temps are fine, you're not gonna get gamer elite CPU cooling in a budget datacenter unless they're like OVH and it's basically part of their infra more or less, the costs are just not there

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these CPUs are not designed to boost all day with the typical cooling setups you'll find in DCs

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OVH are pretty much the outliner in all of this

prime pawn
foggy elbow
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and hetzner told me "we can only guaranty the base frequency, 0.2Ghz above is pretty fine"

vernal moth
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I have a 3900x, I don't think I can push it past 60

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with is true?

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boost is exactly that: boost

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its not sustained

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unless you overclock

foggy elbow
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I'm waiting for ovh to release the new games cpu, with ryzen 5XXX

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I'm sure they will get good temperatures and frequency ^^

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(not 4.9Ghz, but at least 4Ghz)

prime pawn
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Well supposedly AMD tried having lower (more accurate) clock speeds advertised, compared to their 3000 series

golden gust
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because as I said, you're not getting top of the line cooling with hetzner

prime pawn
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Watched a gamers nexus video I believe on that, as to why he was getting higher frequencies. Something like that

golden gust
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it's only with good cooling that you'll be able to maintain boosts

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This is not a hetzner issue as such

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this is a you issue

foggy elbow
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Yeah, that's why I just canceled my dedi and get back to ovh, but now I know that hetzner is not made for me

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and in EU there are no other good hosts (I'm from France)

prime pawn
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I mean, was there even any thermal throttling?

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The lifespan of the hardware isn't really something you'd need to be too concerned with after all lmao

foggy elbow
vernal moth
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no reaching boost at all time != thermal throttling

foggy elbow
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a stupid question, but do you guys recommand velocity or not at all ?

vernal moth
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absolutely

prime pawn
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Haven't tried it. Where is velocity's features/changes list located?

golden gust
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they have a website, and a github

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general gist is that it's what would happen if somebody who had half a clue rewrote bungee from scratch

ashen cliff
untold copper
nova plume
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I’m not sure if it implements something from lithium but they both try and fix the vanilla lighting engine without replacing it

ashen cliff
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I see a missing arrow. kekwhyper

shell vine
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i feel like that image tries to make yatopia look good which is uhhh misleading

nova plume
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It says yatopia is unstable at the bottom

shell vine
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yea barely big enough to read

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forking

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some forks have multiple upstreams

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e.g. purpur has tuinity, airplane, and paper

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we call those forks

ashen cliff
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doubt it

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a korean site creating their own images would definitely use korean text

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you know I'd be kinda shocked if yatopia actually pulled lazyDFU

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but then again not really

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they did i believe

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the backstory for people who don't know

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i basically told tux i was writing some dumbass fabric mixin so my game could start up on my laptop without dying and i was copying paper's change to not load DFU at startup

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so tux was like why doesn't fabric have this

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and wrote a fabric mod

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but it's basically the same concept from a paper patch

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so you can see why it's...

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odd...

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to be in

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yatopia.

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you can tell a lot of intelligence happens over there

untold copper
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PROXI

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I have a chocolate cake as well

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I shall send soon

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don't think just copy

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helo lef

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helo furrimyst

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wtf

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abuse

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ok gotta take out trash

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good bye !

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must be why you're leaving

untold copper
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no thats not how it works

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nvm

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as you can see, leaf has now left for he has been taken out

untold copper
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lol

woven otter
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no

twin lagoon
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@minor badge PepeHeart2

shell vine
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@twin lagoon peepoHappyLove

twin lagoon
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proxi BEST proxi

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@twin lagoon my mum sent me a Duo message with Ramadan Mubarak ? Think

twin lagoon
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@twin lagoon !

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ramadan mubarak BEST michale

royal kernel
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Whats so bad about being pinged, is it like really loud?

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Or just annoying

untold copper
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24/7 dnd gang

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it varies per person; Cat for example has an issue with reading text on a yellow background due to some condition of his, so it makes it basically impossible to partake in what he was pinged for

woven otter
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some message

untold copper
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wat

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which yellow background

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(so in his case, ping in its own message if you deem it an acceptable case to ping him)

untold copper
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@untold copper

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OH

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That

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untold copper
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isee isee

royal kernel
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So @ does not make the yellow background

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it still does, just not for the message i want him to actually read

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@twin lagoon neighbour cat is outside again!

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untold copper
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you know what would be really smart

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@ ZZZCAT CAN YOU READ THIS????

twin lagoon
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quasi valley
twin lagoon
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@warm anchor AYAYA

runic roost
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Anyone knows how i can make redstone async?

twin lagoon
olive garden
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lmao

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you made my day

twin lagoon
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go to the Redstone class

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rename it to AsyncRedstone.class

nova plume
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yes ^

woven otter
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why bother with making redstone async when you can make main thread async

worn ember
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POGGERS 😂 POGGERS POGGERS

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@woven otter best duck ever ?

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just kidding !

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no ducks are good

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.

worn ember
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Hater

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Bad proxi

minor badge
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wtf

worn ember
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It's cuz he dun like the ugly ping color

nova plume
twin lagoon
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line endings

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is that git bash or wsl?

nova plume
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wsl

nova plume
twin lagoon
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should be fine then if you're cloning it in your WSL home folder

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and not your windows user dir

nova plume
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yeah its the wsl home folder

twin lagoon
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yeah just install dos2unix

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and run it on all scripts, paper & scripts folder

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but like, it shouldn't be happening in first place

nova plume
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that?

twin lagoon
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then install it

nova plume
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done

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now what?

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run ./paper patch?

twin lagoon
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use it

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i mean i just cloned the git repo on my wsl instance and shit works fine

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wonder if it's just re-using the git binary from windows assuming he has git for windows installed too

quasi valley
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depends how you clone it

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if you clone it over IJ, that's going to happen 👀

twin lagoon
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yeah but wsl can also take windows binaries and include it into it's path

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so it might just be taking git from windows

nova plume
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/usr/bin/git for which git

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ight ok

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its rm -r Paper/ -f right

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recursive and force

twin lagoon
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weird location of your parameters but yes

nova plume
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cloning again

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still happens

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can you also check your config? λ git config --global -l | grep -Ev '(branch|remote|submodule)\.' commit.gpgsign=true user.signingkey=CC5C5DD215551DFBE676EE4B7E8663CA3C537F64 user.email=proximyst@proximyst.com user.name=Mariell Hoversholm core.autocrlf=input core.askpass=/usr/libexec/git-core/git-gui--askpass gpg.program=gpg2 advice.addemptypathspec=false pull.rebase=true init.defaultbranch=main url.ssh://git@github.com/.insteadof=https://github.com/ url.ssh://git@gitlab.com/.insteadof=https://gitlab.com/ url.https://git.proximy.st/SpigotMC-Stash-Mirror/.insteadof=https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/scm/spigot/
should look something like this, where core.autocrlf is the important part

nova plume
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alright git config --global core.autocrlf input

nova plume
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done

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shld i try again?

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otherwise use false if that doesn't work

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yeah

nova plume
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with true it still doesnt work

twin lagoon
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i don't have that setting at all and it works for me

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you don't want it as true

nova plume
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neither with false or input

twin lagoon
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you're git cloning right

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you're supposed to git clone the repo after applying the setting

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not re-run the paper script

nova plume
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oh yeah

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im dumb

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nvm

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LETS GOO

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thx all of you

worn ember
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Lolololililil

waxen panther
twin lagoon
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brocc pepelove

waxen panther
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michael PepeLove PepeLove

nova plume
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what is it with you and changing nicknames

untold copper
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what nickname

nova plume
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brocc

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his nick was tiolet paper at like 2 in the morning

untold copper
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lmao

waxen panther
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yknow

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just gaming

nova plume
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with tiolet paper?

waxen panther
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sure

worn ember
nova plume
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thats a bit sadge

worn ember
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Brocc is sad yes

prime pawn
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Hardware is weird. My ram now cost $200 more, my nvme is now $200 cheaper, my gpu is out of stock af everywhere, motherboard $70 cheaper, mouse $70 cheaper ( 😠 ), even though my headphones are old af, $80 more (all AUD) 😂

worn ember
#

Blame the miners

twin lagoon
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blame the pandemic in this case

nova plume
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blame everyone

prime pawn
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Well, that new cryptocurrency that takes up storage space is gonna be interesting lol

worn ember
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Well both

vernal moth
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Cryptocurrencies are so utterly dum

nova plume
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yeah theyre gonna die in a few months anyway

worn ember
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Yes

nova plume
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then theres gonna be a spill of nvidia's mining gpus that are good for nothing to the landfill

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smh

prime pawn
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Waste of resources honestly. If it could be applied to some kind of service that grants other people usage of their resources for money but through some kind of cryptocurrency, that could be useful (like the way a gift card would be lmao)

ashen cliff
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Imagine ever buying expensive ram. Can't be me. kekwhyper

vernal moth
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It's worth it tho

ashen cliff
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It's not.

vernal moth
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On ryzen it is

nova plume
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me vibing with 8 gigs clocked at 2933mhz

vernal moth
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Also, rgb alone makes it worth it

ashen cliff
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Buy the cheapest B die or Rev E and OC it yourself.

vernal moth
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I also don't buy insane ram, just 3200mhz I think?

nova plume
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no mini, rgb increases performance which makes it worth it

ashen cliff
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Save money and spend like 1 hour of throwing in the settings.

nova plume
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krusic you say that but we've seen ur "dell abomination"

vernal moth
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That hour is most likely worth more than the price difference tho krusic

nova plume
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so i dont think anyone would follow you're advice

ashen cliff
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The diff usually being like 40€+, no.

vernal moth
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Idk what you charge per hour, lmao

ashen cliff
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Look, the Dell abomination is the absolute maximum price/perf. kekwhyper

nova plume
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there was no price

prime pawn
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Expensive ram?

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ToTtaallyy.. not me

nova plume
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like barely any

ashen cliff
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That entire build, so motherboard, CPU, GPU, RAM and 1600W PSU, was in total like 250€.

nova plume
#

fair enough then

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||no case tho||

ashen cliff
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It doesn't fit in any of the cases, yet.

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But soon.

nova plume
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yet lol

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ok

prime pawn
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Wow, mental

ashen cliff
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It's like 5mm too long for 1 case and for the other one it's 10mm too wide.

nova plume
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whats the specs again?

ashen cliff
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There should be a neofetch somewhere.

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32GB of ECC REG memory, 6 core Xeon and a RX 550.

nova plume
prime pawn
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Wouldn't it fit in a server chasis?

ashen cliff
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That.

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It's a workstation motherboard, so not really.

prime pawn
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Build a lego case? 😁

ashen cliff
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But I think I swapped it for the E5-2643 V3, but I'm not 100% sure since I swapped a bunch of stuff.

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Same here. We even have official distributors here sell directly to miners. kekwhyper

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They don't even sell GPUs to SIs anymore.

nova plume
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why is paint running on my dgpu smh

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optimus is acc so crappy

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either way something that shouldnt be using it is using it

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not when i havent even opened it

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since i restarted it

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its only been up for an hr and 45 mins

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ive already been there

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its not

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i think its just nvidia bein stupid

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i have no problem/dont care/wouldne even notice if it was running in the background

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but since its running on the dgpu battery life dies

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yeah

void void
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yo do yall use the bitwarden web extension?

vernal moth
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Ye

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i do yes

crystal compass
#

Another day another dollar of working at a call center 🥴

worn ember
vernal moth
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Wooo, WhatsApp allows you to speed up voice messages now

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That's amazing

untold copper
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Woo, WhatsApp!

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this is going in the splashes.txt of my modpack

twin lagoon
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😂

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@waxen panther 😁

waxen panther
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🤣

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modpack moment 😀

untold copper
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what do you have against my modpack reee

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its very cool ok

vernal moth
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Imagine playing minecraft

untold copper
#

.

crystal compass
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imagine having an imagination

void void
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😦

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few people don't 😉

worn ember
waxen panther
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wow really

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😀

worn ember
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"use gradle"

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waxen panther
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do u need an adult

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to fix ur build files

quasi valley
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@cedar spade and brocc have a gradle consultant agency that would be VERY happy to assist you

worn ember
#

tbh idk if its still continuing or not, intellij is saying "setting up gradle wrapper" but the build task just stopped after that xD

limber knotBOT
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hi!

waxen panther
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idk

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link project

olive garden
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ded 😐

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inb4 all you did is ./gradlew and you expected stuff to build

worn ember
#

its poopoo forge stuff again, if change the dependency version it works

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

olive garden
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oh forge

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good luck

void void
#

Which server software for Forge 1.12.2 is better: Magma, Mohist or SpongeForge?

waxen panther
#

no

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sponge

void void
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sponge = yes

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magma = ?

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mohist = ?

mental meadow
#

no, use sponge

waxen panther
#

no no sponge is good

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never use magma or mohist

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or you will be exiled

void void
waxen panther
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they're terrible DD

void void
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I'll use SpongeForge then

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Does it include optimizations like Paper too?

waxen panther
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some yes

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obviously it doesnt run as well as paper though

void void
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thank you!

woven otter
#

But it should

crystal compass
ashen cliff
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Z index.

crystal compass
#

they need to be removed from the normal flow of the document though right

waxen panther
#

position absolute on the container and position relative on the black keys

ashen cliff
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Depends. It's HTML... so there are like 50 ways to do it at least.

waxen panther
#

you'll have to position them though, probably a better way

crystal compass
#

ah

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it probably wants me to use flex box

ashen cliff
#

Could also put the black keys inside the white ones and just offset them.

vernal moth
#

If you wanna cheat, style my code

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Lmao

untold copper
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ignore this

vernal moth
#

But yeah, I just relatively positioned them

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And added invisible spacers to limit hight of black keys

crystal compass
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ah

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i really need to go over display/position and flexbox again

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shit didnt sink in

vernal moth
#

Flexbox is overkill for this

crystal compass
#

did you just set position relative and adjust top/left/right/bottom ?

worn ember
spiral robin
untold copper
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@spiral robin awa

spiral robin
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@minor badge iwi

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@spiral robin peepoLove

woven otter
#

Stop

untold copper
#

Chocolate cake

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@spiral robin @minor badge

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waxen panther
#

POG

untold copper
#

Yes

waxen panther
#

happy birthday!!

untold copper
#

Chocolate with whipped cream

untold copper
waxen panther
#

o

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lmao

untold copper
#

this is mine ^^

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warm anchor
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that's a cooler name than Snoopa dude

untold copper
#

what, Krish?

warm anchor
#

Mr. Krish riepeek

untold copper
#

lol no

waxen panther
#

krish epic name

worn ember
#

whats the diff between dependencies in buildscript and just dependencies in root in gradle? I added jsoup to the root one but it cant resolve it thonk (i have mavencentral as repo tho)

waxen panther
#

wat

untold copper
olive garden
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buildscript: used for stuff needed to build the source
root: used for stuff needed by the source

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so plugin dependency stuff goes in the buildscript

worn ember
#

thanq

mossy vessel
#

You can use buildSrc to define your own functions or do more complex stuff which doesn't belong in build scripts

worn ember
#

i dont understand anything of what you just said

untold copper
#

XD

#

Friend: So this is how you do this
Me:

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mossy vessel
#

Yeah, de/reobf I'd put into an own function calling when needed

waxen panther
#

buildscript is ollddd

olive garden
#

still has its use in gradle 6.8

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ded: read the freaking comments in your own script

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which gradle version are you using?

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actually doesn't really matter, this is forge we are talking about

#

point is, the implementation scope/whatever might not be supported by forge, so read the damn comments and do as you are told

waxen panther
#

woah!

worn ember
#

the comments are go read about this on their docs

untold copper
#

Ded

waxen panther
#

stop bullying ded thats my job

untold copper
#

what you doing with forge

worn ember
#

show embeds in tooltips

worn ember
olive garden
#

well, you are supposed to know what the Forge Gradle plugin does if you are using it

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because, you know, you should like read the comments in your own build script?

worn ember
#

solid argument

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so put the jar in libs and put it as compile?

olive garden
#

oh my fucking god ded

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where have you learned to read?

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or rather, where you failed to learn that?

woven otter
worn ember
#

bruh wtf

olive garden
#

"You may put jars on which you depend on in ./libs or you may define them like so.."

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OR

worn ember
#

yeah ok nice, but it still doesnt work

olive garden
#

sorry, can't help then

#

i don't know forge

worn ember
#

it cant find the repo

olive garden
#

😐

worn ember
#

but its on maven central

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

olive garden
#

try adding it then

formal turret
#

make a repositories { } block

worn ember
#

its already there

#

learn to read kappa

olive garden
#

is it in buildscript?

formal turret
#

in the buildscript there is

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not its own repo block

olive garden
#

may I refer you to my previous message regarding buildscript vs non-builscript?

worn ember
#

bruh

olive garden
#

this isn't your day man

worn ember
#

thats stupid

olive garden
#

since when do you refer to yourself as "that"?

worn ember
#

its my new pronoun

olive garden
#

okay

spiral robin
#

@minor badge koriLove

spiral robin
worn ember
#

seems to not poop itself now

#

tnx greg

mossy vessel
worn ember
#

its still gonna time out tho lol

olive garden
#

if you are so thankful mr ded, you could at least refer to me by the name my mother gave me

worn ember
#

idk how to type that

olive garden
#

it contains no special characters though

twin lagoon
#

@mossy vessel panda_flush

mossy vessel
warm anchor
#

Ded @worn ember just want to let you know watching you suffer give me motivation rielove

olive garden
#

it also gives me something, although that's a bit more physical

warm anchor
olive garden
#

I don't speak weeb, what does that mean?

worn ember
warm anchor
twin lagoon
#

@warm anchor AYAYA

warm anchor
shell vine
worn ember
blazing quarry
#

So what do you all think of 2b2t

#

Currently on Paper 1.12.2, do you believe it will manage to update to Paper 1.16.5?

lament patio
#

I think they're going to use a fork of Tuinity

#

(Did you play Platform Racing 2, like, 8 years ago or something? I think I recognize you)

blazing quarry
#

Oh, I didn't know that

#

Yes

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Wow!

#

I've never used Tuinity, is it good? Compatible with any Bukkit plugins?

mental meadow
#

Tuinity is a high performance fork of Paper

blazing quarry
#

I do think it's quite exciting to see 2b2t really testing Paper's capability

#

Perhaps the biggest vanilla Minecraft server in the world

formal turret
#

🤔

worn ember
#

queue the fitmc on minecrafts oldest anarchy server

formal turret
#

the day that server is gone will be a glorious day

blazing quarry
#

Though I think if it doesn't work out, I would put most of the blame on Mojang and not Paper

#

Mojang does close to nothing to optimize for server performance

worn ember
#

bold assumption there

blazing quarry
#

I mean, not as much as they could've done

worn ember
#

go yell at marketing

#

meh features!!

blazing quarry
#

Haha

#

I think they should make an update called the Performance Update, where they just spend an entire year improving the game's performance and multiplayer experience

#

no extra features, just performance

#

Marketing? They can market that the game will be playable with 1000 players at once in a single world, that sounds like great advertising to me tbh

warm anchor
#

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here

blazing quarry
#

yeah I honestly don't know what I'm talking about, just a disclaimer

unkempt drift
#

I thought 2b2t had their own server fork

warm anchor
#

Yeah we know...

blazing quarry
#

just a fantasy dream

#

Well it does say it's running on Paper 1.12.2

twin lagoon
#

on 1.12.2 yes

blazing quarry
#

The queue is a separate server connected via Waterfall

twin lagoon
#

they've got a 1.16.5 test server

#

which seems to do quite well

unkempt drift
#

Still could be modified from paper, and still kept the paper brand

#

So idk if it’s “vanilla” paper 1.12

twin lagoon
#

they have a paper fork iirc

warm anchor
#

As long as this discord don’t get flooded with wannabe 2b2t improver that comes asking for weird ass suggestion I will be happy

twin lagoon
#

likely has a tuinity fork aswell but no idea what the information on that is

frank otter
#

wait 2b2t runs paper?

#

I would have assumed it ran vanilla

warm anchor
#

Wtf

unkempt drift
#

Yeah.. lol

blazing quarry
#

haha nah they have plugins

frank otter
#

doesn't paper patch a lot of exploits

blazing quarry
#

it runs AAC

twin lagoon
#

yes but even on 1.12.2 you'd still have exploits

warm anchor
twin lagoon
#

2b2t itself patches exploits too

frank otter
#

I've never been on 2b2t

warm anchor
blazing quarry
#

i bet the queue right now is 800

frank otter
unkempt drift
#

Michael here, disillusioning us about 2b2ts true anarchy-ness

blazing quarry
#

waterfall is a proxy

#

a fork of bungeecord

frank otter
#

isn bungeecord also a proxy

#

oh ok

warm anchor
#

Anarchy without rule while admin comes out almost every week to delete player made chunks

#

Very anarchy

#

Much anarchy

frank otter
#

ah yes, anarchy

blazing quarry
#

what i didnt know he deletes chunks

warm anchor
#

Anarchy that allow hacks but patch out eltrya 5 times so far to remove hack PepeLa

frank otter
#

isn't the end disabled?

blazing quarry
#

oh yeah that does suck

#

End is not disabled but most end portals have been destroyed using exploits

frank otter
#

oh

blazing quarry
#

I think the admin has one End Portal protected with WorldGuard

warm anchor
#

I get it the server is fun in its own way but I roll my eye everytime a player say the server is without rule and “Anarchy”

unkempt drift
#

WorldGuard = true anarchy

blazing quarry
#

well there's a fine line between true anarchy and making the server playable for people

frank otter
#

the most fun I've ever had on minecraft was on one server with a group of friends, everyone had op and could do what they wanted

warm anchor
blazing quarry
#

Should the admin remove lag machines made of redstone that are designed to crash the server?

frank otter
unkempt drift
#

repeating command block -> /kill @e

frank otter
#

it lasted all of half an hour

warm anchor
#

Majority of players are on small server with friends and that’s what they really care

frank otter
#

we flew around in creative with elytras and summoned explosions on the block we were looking at

#

you could just fly through cliffs

warm anchor
unkempt drift
#

Yes, removes all players and entities. No more lag

frank otter
#

very effective

#

will use on next server I run, thanks

warm anchor
#

Remember when minecraft was just a game about placing blocks???

unkempt drift
#

Can you set max players in server.properties to 0?

frank otter
#

probably

crystal compass
#

y tho

frank otter
#

clearlagg

warm anchor
crystal compass
worn ember
crystal compass
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the fuck lol

golden gust
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Not wrong though

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worse case, nobody there to complain

worn ember
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i think i interrupted something

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nova plume
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Ded how could you

wide chasm
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No, you didn't, there are not enough beds for that to happen

nova plume
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There doesn’t have to be 2 beds. One is enough

magic river
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I think the implication is ded staged it

wide chasm
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Didn't the 1.14 update make it so you need enough beds in a village for each villager and potential new offspring?

magic river
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I was assuming this was an oral thing, not sure how you get a baby out of that 😛

wide chasm
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To my knowledge if you have two villagers, you can only get a third if you have three beds in the village.

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Well, the positioning is kinda off, but then again, this is Minecraft

golden gust
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prior stabbing incident can cause that, apparently

worn ember
rare canyon
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anyone know a simple plugin that allows custom music that everyone could hear at the same time

worn ember
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"simple"

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thats not possible with plugins

wide chasm
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You mean custom as in note blocks or custom as in actual music with some web player or whatever?

worn ember
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unless if you convert it to noteblock music notes

wraith trail
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there was some guy in here with a plugin that would take a youtube link, youtube-dl it and generate/send a resource pack on the fly with it as a sound file

rare canyon
worn ember
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that sounds super wonky tho

fallen oracle
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I mean we had Holovid back when 1.16 came out.

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But it's not actively being worked on anymore.

wide chasm
wraith trail
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if you want actual music, you need a resource pack

worn ember
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you need a modified client to do that basically

wide chasm
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Technically you can approximate vocals with the right sounds and pitches, but yeah, not going to be good

worn ember
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spout had that back in the day

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good times

rare canyon
fallen oracle
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We did it via on-demand resource packs.

spiral robin
wide chasm
wraith trail
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yeah, you could have a plugin generate and send a resource pack for you via a command, but that would be messy on a public server

worn ember
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im practically famous

rare canyon
wide chasm