general

[limpid comet]

Hello

Krusic, what's your favourite plugin

[magic river]

Skript

[woven otter]

@quasi valley hi

@waxen panther

[ashen cliff]

AuthMe.

[native wolf]

SkinsRestorer

[crystal compass]

[woven otter]

AuthMe is the best plugin

[magic river]

Ugh, my outside tap is broken again

This is like 3 times in 5 years I think

[crystal compass]

cracked

[magic river]

Yeah

[vestal jasper]

imagine running cracked sinks

smh pirate

[crystal brook]

hello

can i ask u guys?

[crystal compass]

holy shit its a josh

the battle of the joshes

[vestal jasper]

just ask, don't ask to ask

[crystal brook]

how to find ip i tried every file and i cant find

[crystal compass]

zoinks

https://whatismyip.com

[crystal brook]

its a file?

oh

[magic river]

It's almost never a file

[woven otter]

ur just jelly

[crystal brook]

like mc server

[worn ember]

oh boy

[magic river]

On your server it might be in /etc/network/interfaces but you should probably just run ip address and find it in there

[worn ember]

are you running it locally?

[crystal brook]

idk i think

[vestal jasper]

...

[magic river]

Are you paying OVH money to run it there?

Or did you just download the jar and double click it?

[crystal brook]

no

[vestal jasper]

Is it running on a machine in your network

[crystal brook]

look

[worn ember]

ok so locally

[crystal brook]

like and i cant find the ip

[vestal jasper]

So yes, you're running it locally. localhost to connect from the same machine

[magic river]

So https://whatismyip.com to figure out how to let others connect

[vestal jasper]

If you want others from outside your network to connect, ^^

[worn ember]

(you also gotta port forward for that)

[magic river]

Although you'll probably have to setup port forwarding

I wish the server had an option to use UPnP to do that for you

[mental meadow]

that would be kinda cool

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF-YDdbRYmA | Me when I see Sulu

[worn ember]

add it then

[golden gust]

There are plugins for that

[crystal brook]

i cant find the ip

[left swift]

Ur a plugin cat

[golden gust]

If you wanna see your LAN IP, open a command prompt and run ipconfig, should be in there somewhere

if you mean your public one, google it

[coarse lily]

usage: ipconfig <command> <args>

Instructions unclear

[worn ember]

Step 1: GIT GUD
Step2: profit

[coarse lily]

git: 'gud' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.

[worn ember]

no u git help

[whole prawn]

imagine spending 5+ hours trying to fix a bug just to find out that it was caused by fucking multicraft

[worn ember]

gottem

[whole prawn]

actual pain

[worn ember]

i gotta wait 3 minutes for my shit to compile every time i make a change lol

[left swift]

Ew why are you compiling shit

Dont you have a toilet ded

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-42KWPnN8U

[worn ember]

lemme use yours

[magic river]

I just heard the black couch line 😄

I had these open in a tab waiting for me to get to them, thanks for the reminder

[golden gust]

😄

[crystal compass]

totorial 😂

[mental meadow]

huh, i managed to stab both my tumbs with a needle at the same time, epic

[waxen panther]

tumbs

[mental meadow]

u are a tumb

@vernal moth https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56912481

[waxen panther]

wh

[mental meadow]

next time they find a bomb in your garden, make sure it's not an inflatable buttplug

[left swift]

Maybe it's both 😳

[nova plume]

What the hell

[golden gust]

Hey, I have one of tho... nvm

The fact that it's right next to some AQUAglide PMSL

[left swift]

Shouldn't touch anything without gloves in a 1 mile radius of that spot for atleast 1 month now

It's all contaminated

[worn ember]

such news much wow

[golden gust]

bbc

nuff said, really

[vernal moth]

Kek

[worn ember]

The New York Times headline next week:
Kim Kardashian can't fit through her toilet door anymore after 6th plastic surgery, forced to shit at the floor now

[left swift]

World Europe news

[golden gust]

I saw one article in the side, had a compelling title, clicked on it and the title was something entirely different

#FuckTheBBC

[left swift]

Shit at the floor

[vernal moth]

Bbc is nice

[worn ember]

its when you shit at high velocity

[golden gust]

They've turned into their clickbaity mainstream companions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX9Sc88qreg | Stuff like this is coming up on my YT recs, and it makes me really wish that valve would learn how to count past 2 😦

[native wolf]

Even after telling them that it's unsupported

They are just like "but i need it"

[nova plume]

pvp amirite

[golden gust]

literally said, .9 and .8 server are the same thing, just a different string

"I NEED THE .9 SERVER" 😡

new combat is fucking ass

especially if you're tryna actually have fun

[novel horizon]

I love the new combat

🤷‍♂️

[golden gust]

But, like, still doesn't mean that we're gonna support that crap

too slow, feel like a fat fuck running around, etc

[novel horizon]

Not love, but I like it

Because people are fucks running around

[waxen panther]

pvp in mc has always been bad

[novel horizon]

You must think about attacking not just randomly click

[wraith trail]

seems way to slow, but click speed affecting who won was also super bad

never been good

[golden gust]

There are some aspects of it which are kinda nice, yea, I'll admit that, spam clicking was never the real thing that people want

[novel horizon]

But I get that

There's lot of those who liked that

especially kill auras, ew

[warm anchor]

Such skill

[golden gust]

I mean, the default attack speed is too slow for most "PvP" type servers

[novel horizon]

even with something like longer reach i hated that too

[golden gust]

I bumped it to like 5.6 or something and people where much happier

[warm anchor]

It’s just program that spam attack for you

[golden gust]

erm, if you're within X range, attac them

[warm anchor]

They just give it a cool name

[golden gust]

nothing more, nothing less

[warm anchor]

Since as long as server takes the packet

Coz you can do everything else

[golden gust]

because it looks all around you, basically

[warm anchor]

Without having to ever hit attack

[golden gust]

and, well, fancy names get more attention

[warm anchor]

Yes lol and you could be swimming in water it will still attack anything around you

[void void]

ikr

[warm anchor]

Minecraft was never made for PvP

But kids like it because it’s easy and no brain required

Tell any CSGO player to play on 20 tick server

[crystal compass]

bruh

pvp in block game

[warm anchor]

Yeah I mean if they really want skill based and reaction based PvP

Minecraft is horrible

[magic river]

Slowing down the PVP removes some of the issues from the terrible netcode

And makes winning a fight harder than "I mapped scroll wheel up to left click" 😄

Not that the current PVP is any good either

[golden gust]

I've made minecraft 1000 TPS before

[crystal compass]

what would be the point of going over 20 ?

[worn ember]

wow so cool

[golden gust]

more time accuracy

[magic river]

Finer grained player movements and actions

[worn ember]

minecraft ticks go brrr

[golden gust]

downfall is ofc that now you've gotta do all the same amount of stuff in less time

[crystal compass]

we are doing the game loop 1000x a second instead of 20

[golden gust]

many caveats in the entire system as everything is programmed around 20 TPS

java is a non issue

[worn ember]

i think people who think java is the issue are the issue

[left swift]

I like turtles and click

[crystal compass]

uh oh

so was windows 10 version just a complete fail or what

[cunning raft]

ok

[golden gust]

windows 10 edition is just as bad as java edition

[crystal compass]

maplestory

[left swift]

Runescape was a java game

[crystal compass]

pogger java game

[golden gust]

it's not language holding it back

it's technical

[magic river]

Windows 10 Edition is way more efficient on the client at least

[golden gust]

minecraft is a 10 year old codebase with massive tech debt and massive over-engineering

[worn ember]

cuz usually game designers/devs learn other langs in their classes

[crystal compass]

so have they been adding onto pile of shit for 10 years

is that what you're saying

[worn ember]

yes

[crystal compass]

nice

[worn ember]

to some extend

[magic river]

I think bedrock redstone is much more efficient too but maybe that never actually got implemented

[crystal compass]

cool, and good

[left swift]

Compiling shit at the floor in the words of ded

[golden gust]

They've been replacing some stuff, e.g. the chunk system, data upgrade, but, they massively over-engineered it in some areas

[worn ember]

in high velocity

[crystal compass]

why not make minecraft flash game

[warm anchor]

Think of all task need to be done in x amount of tick. Having more divides in a second means more accuracy so someone who fire a shot at 1/60 and 1/40 of a second will have a difference

That’s why CSGO professional server runs on 120 ticks not the default 60 on official server

[golden gust]

bedrock is practically a closed down platform in a sense

[vernal moth]

Bedrock is a locked down mess

[golden gust]

with java edition, we can decompile the server

[worn ember]

theres your first downside of not writing in Java 😉

[golden gust]

with bedrock, it's all reverse engineered

many large bedrock servers have their own private server implementation, etc

[vernal moth]

They removed debug symbol, whole mojang gives us source code of some libs and deobfuscsrion mappings for the rest

[cunning raft]

a lot just use bukkit but are behind a translation proxy

[warm anchor]

Bedrock view distance is nice though (though it shit the bad hardware)

I like the infinity view

[golden gust]

pros of being on a newer rendering engine, i'd imagine

[worn ember]

https://giphy.com/gifs/elevator-berlin-lift-U2BASTIsaw8WQ

[golden gust]

java still works with 10 year old GPUs

[magic river]

10 year old GPUs support OpenGL 4

[left swift]

Silly eternity its 128 tick and 64 ticks smh

[worn ember]

does RTX work in java?

[crystal compass]

naw

[worn ember]

well the impl of the render thingy mabob

[crystal compass]

it would be cool if it did

[cunning raft]

some shaders use rtx last i knew

there's like 1 or 2 that are "real" rtx

[crystal compass]

seus made his own implementation of rtx for non traceing cards

[magic river]

For real though, Ivy Bridge iGPU supports GL 4.0 in Windows and 4.2 in Linux

Dunno on macOS, probably 4.2?

I think that's where macOS stopped

[worn ember]

fancy

[crystal compass]

mac os 🤢

[magic river]

Ivy Bridge is 10 years old

Minecraft supports 15 year old GPUs 😛

[waxen panther]

sadge

[crystal compass]

imagine having a processor that runs 1.0 ghz

[magic river]

Not that it would be playable on them...

[crystal compass]

and 1gb ram

[magic river]

Sounds like 2003 for me

[crystal compass]

when people call me asking for support for their 2008 imac

and i could shit a brick that would run faster

.g ill take your entire stock

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0NzFatmLCo

[magic river]

Sandy Bridge was the turning point there, it was a massive upgrade over what came before

And you can still do web browsing, office work, and light gaming with Sandy Bridge

I wouldn't want to use something older than Skylake but that was still 2015

You could use Skylake with a 3090 and it would only be CPU bound in a few games

Also on desktop all Intel has put out since 2015 is small tweaks and clock bumps of Skylake

Oh I guess in March they put out their backport of Ice Lake to 14nm so they finally moved on

Kind of

[warm anchor]

[unkempt drift]

hmm... so how long do I have to wait after publishing a gpg key to be able to release an artifact to the central repo? the signature thing is the only validation that's failing and my key def exists on keyserver.ubuntu.com

[potent fossil]

what error are you getting?

[unkempt drift]

its saying no key found in this list of keyservers

[potent fossil]

the key might still be propagating to other keyservers? central might not be using keyserver.ubuntu.com

[unkempt drift]

well it says it is

[potent fossil]

o

[unkempt drift]

was not able to be located on <a href="http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/">http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/</a>. Upload your public key and try the operation again.

[potent fossil]

cache? perhaps

[unkempt drift]

and if I go to that url, and search for it, its def there

[potent fossil]

ok i have no idea then

[magic river]

How long ago did you upload it?

[unkempt drift]

like 10 mins maybe.

[olive marlin]

When I did it, it wasn't found from first key server for over an hour. I tried another one (got it from sonatype logs iirc) and it worked next minute.

[unkempt drift]

ok, guess I can publish it elsewhere as well

[olive marlin]

I was able to search my key on both servers just fine.

I have no idea why sonatype wasn't finding it.

[golden gust]

it's distributed and sync'd around the world slooowly iirc

[olive marlin]

Yeah, but in logs you see which keyservers they ask.

[unkempt drift]

ugh, dont they know I want to go eat lunch...

[olive marlin]

And I had my key there. And sounds like Jake has it too.

[potent fossil]

billionaire cat fight https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-ordered-to-stop-work-on-nasa-moon-lander-project-pending-challenges-2021-4

smfh

[unkempt drift]

bezos is probably pretty salty

but spacex bid like 3 bil, compared to his 6 bil

so ofc nasa chose the wayyy cheaper one

[potent fossil]

he is, he's singlehandedly stopped spacex from continuing work atm while he starts up a legal battle over not getting picked (fairly)

[unkempt drift]

well they havent stopped, its very misleading

they were doing starship with or without the nasa money

[golden gust]

has bezos launched yet?

[unkempt drift]

so they just cant spend any money nasa gave them yet

[potent fossil]

ok, "singlehandedly gotten the authorities to order spacex to stop, which they may or may not listen to"

[golden gust]

oh, new shepard

[coarse lily]

Yeah New Shepard launched/landed.

[unkempt drift]

"stopped" probably just means, cant do anything relating to the HLS system, but spacex is still doing their stuff in south texas

its not like they can't do anything at all

[potent fossil]

specifically this is regarding NASA's moon lander

which is halted bc of this atm

[unkempt drift]

the one spacex submitted is a derivative of starship. and so they are still working on starship since its not really the moon lander yet

and spending their own money on it

[magic river]

NASA could only choose the SpaceX one, there were no other options

[golden gust]

Well, yea, that's why SpaceX is able to offer a much cheaper solution

[magic river]

Congress didn't budget enough for them to pick any of the others

[unkempt drift]

for the amount of money they had, yeah, they could only pick 1

[potent fossil]

i mean yeah fair, i understand that, im just saying bezos has essentially paused the moon lander project. even tho spacex is still working on starship (and therefore moon lander), the actual moon lander project is paused

[magic river]

I didn't think SpaceX was doing anything that special for the moon landing

[unkempt drift]

yep, thats true. hope they dont take YEARS or smth to figure this out

[potent fossil]

idc who gets it really, i just want the one who's actually going to succeed

and spacex is going much faster than blue origin

[magic river]

Just changing the crew and cargo areas a bit

[golden gust]

In Dynetics' complaint, which was co-signed by Blue Origin, the company argues that NASA should have withdrawn its request for bids for the lunar project once it became clear it didn't have enough funding to proceed with two companies, as it had originally planned

[unkempt drift]

lol, spacex is doing the actual lander for the moon landing amaranth. or at least for now they are

[magic river]

Yeah but their lander is just "land starship on the moon"

[unkempt drift]

they are also delivering all the big parts of the lunar space station

[golden gust]

So, they shoulda withdrawn and restarted the bid?

[potent fossil]

well, not full starship, definitely a derivative of it though

[unkempt drift]

and resupplying the station.

[golden gust]

Just sounds like pure salt over the position that NASA was placed into 🤷‍♂️

[magic river]

iirc the only difference worth mentioning from normal starship is something with landing legs which they might just do on all of them anyway

[unkempt drift]

the only thing they arent doing, is literally moving the astronauts between earth and lunar orbit

that is reserved for SLS

[potent fossil]

god i can't wait for this shit to be more mainstream i want my star trek universe IRL

[magic river]

It's not even lunar orbit, is it?

[potent fossil]

[magic river]

I thought it was an earth orbit that is really lopsided and gets close to lunar capture

Or was it the other way around?

[unkempt drift]

the lunar space station will be in a very elliptical lunar orbit

which is theoretically, where the lunar starship will be docked and ferry people to and from the surface of the moon

while SLS delivers humans from earth's surface to that lunar station (lunar gateway its called)

[magic river]

Wait so the Artemis program is just Starship now, right?

"Artemis 3" is just "put Starship on the lunar surface"

[potent fossil]

i wonder how large the lunar orbit can be before objects orbiting the moon will be overtaken by earth's gravity

[magic river]

Artemis 3 was supposed to be an SLS launch of Orion, if it's just Starship now why would SLS be involved?

[cursive osprey]

Guys i need mod analog IBE EDITOR / NBT EDIT, but for fabric loader 1.16.5. Maybe you know?

[waxen panther]

ask in fabric

[unkempt drift]

starship isnt gonna carry people from earth @magic river so SLS with the Orion capsule is still needed for that part, the earth to moon, and moon to earth part. (but some people are asking, why not just use starship for that too...)

[golden gust]

nasa.

[magic river]

It would mean they'd have to stay in orbit for a while though, Starship can get to orbit but to go anywhere it needs refueling missions which take time

Then again they could just launch two Starships

[golden gust]

the pros of SpaceX is that they do their own stuff and offer private rides for others, at a good price

[magic river]

One for landing then once it's refueled launch another one and cross load

[golden gust]

other companes highly rely on NASA for funding and have a bit of private stuff to bridge the gap

[magic river]

I don't know if they plan on being able to dock Starships to each other though

Well, other than the docking they do for refueling

[golden gust]

ontop of the fact that nasa is basically required to spend around in as many states as possible to keep people happy, I'd imagine that a good % of why they spread across companies is politics, not "efficency"

[magic river]

The refueling ships are variants of Starship that are just packed full of fuel

Oh, Orion is a joint project with ESA

[void void]

Can someone please help me with nuvotifier? For some reason it's not working

I put my address

My port

[twin lagoon]

you're trying to connect to your mysql server

you should be connecting to the votifier port, not mysql

[void void]

I'm using server pro

[magic river]

I guess that explains why they won't kill Orion, aside from the "give Lockheed money" part of it

[void void]

I'm using the votifier port

[golden gust]

speak to your host for support

[twin lagoon]

you're not using your votifier port

it says 3306, likely mysql

[void void]

Oh

[wraith trail]

also rip censoring

[void void]

My host is telling me to contact the dev of the plugin

and they have no discord

I just looking for someone to help me quicker

[twin lagoon]

votifier works fine, it's up to the user to configure it properly

[golden gust]

We can't help you

[wraith trail]

(nu)votifier does not give support for a reason lol

[golden gust]

Use NuVotifier, but, we know that it works

[void void]

I'm using NuVotifier

It worked before for me

[golden gust]

issues beyond that are generally on network configuration

[void void]

This time it isn't working for some reason

[golden gust]

not something we can help you with

make sure that nuvotifier is listening to the network, see the logs, etc

beyond that, it's pretty much 100% on your host and their network setup

[void void]

When I test it on the website that you can test if it registered your vote it works

[golden gust]

if they're using docker you're generally fucked

[void void]

But when I try to add it to planet minecraft or server list it doesn't work

[magic river]

It tells you the default port is 8192, why did you put in 3306?

[vernal moth]

SLS is a giant waste of money btw

[void void]

8192 didn't work

I tried

[vernal moth]

It's apollo style one time missions

[golden gust]

"didn't work"

[vernal moth]

That's not sustainable

[magic river]

Well go look at your plugin config and see what port you told it to use

[void void]

3306

I used 3306

[twin lagoon]

yes but you probably shouldn't use or configure 3306

[magic river]

In your plugin config?

[void void]

Yes

[wraith trail]

and see what ports your host exposes

[vernal moth]

SLS shouldn't exist and should be replaced with a properly certified starship

[void void]

The host is: 0.0.0.0

[magic river]

The plugin is probably spitting out an error on startup then

[wraith trail]

as they likely don't open 3306 for you

[golden gust]

as I said, check your logs, see if it actually says that it's listening on the network

[void void]

My host opens anything between 1024 and 6432423(A big number I can't remember)

[twin lagoon]

that seems very unlikely

[vernal moth]

But nasa seems to want to wait to look into certifying starship for human launches and landings (understandingly I guess)

[magic river]

No, those are just the ports you can bind to without root

[vernal moth]

#paper-help smh

[void void]

Yo quick question, when you think of ak, just ak, what do you think of?

So what do you suggest I do?

[twin lagoon]

We provide 2 extra ports for premium servers which can be found in the Advanced Settings tab inside the control panel. For Pro servers you have access to any port between 1024 and 65535.

ok he's not wrong

but you probably still need to open those up in your panel

[waxen panther]

michael 🥺

[magic river]

Go read your server logs

[vernal moth]

Ak-47 obviously

[magic river]

See what the plugin says it's doing

AK-47 or Alaska

[void void]

[15:58:51] [Votifier epoll boss/ERROR]: [Votifier] Votifier was not able to bind to /0.0.0.0:3306

[twin lagoon]

there's your issue

[magic river]

There you go

[twin lagoon]

change it to 8192 since that's the default

[magic river]

Probably because you have mysql running

[void void]

What do I do to fix it amaranth?

[wraith trail]

or change it to a port that you have actually set up in your panel ^^

[twin lagoon]

change it to the default

[wraith trail]

as your host gives you 2 ports

[golden gust]

create a port in your hosts configuration stuff

then use that port

[vestal jasper]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

uwu

[void void]

So I leave the host as 0.0.0.0?

[wraith trail]

yes

[magic river]

Sure, that just means "any IP available"

[golden gust]

generally, yea, but, you'd need to speak to your host for specifics on that otherwise

[vernal moth]

#paper-help reeeeee

[magic river]

This is a good point

We were having a nice time making fun of NASA which you derailed with this

Well, NASA and ESA

[vernal moth]

You guys let it derail

^^

[magic river]

Why does ESA even exist? Just send the money to NASA 😛

[golden gust]

and, well, isn't NASA "one time speciality"

[vernal moth]

ESA has its own missions too

One of their control Centers is in my city, it's cool

[magic river]

ESA spent like 30 years going back and forth on whether or not they wanted to do their own launches

[vernal moth]

Also astronaut training center

[void void]

THANKS

IT WORKS NOW

YAY

[golden gust]

you'd almost imagine that we know what we're talking about, generally

[vernal moth]

Issue with esa is: we don't have a local place to launch

[magic river]

ESA is just another Lockheed, someone NASA gives welfare to for political reasons 😛

[golden gust]

lol

[void void]

hmm yeh but there's a lot of other abbreviations for ak

so idk

[vernal moth]

Our space coast, kourou, is in fucking french guiana or however you write it

So that's fun it you wanna build rockets

[magic river]

Yeah that sounds right

That's one of those places that's EU but not

[vernal moth]

It's EU

Its french oversee territory

It's even on our euro bills iirc

But yeah, european space tech isn't that bad, vulcan is a german company that builds all engines for most sats for example

And the ariane-5 is a nice rocket

But we just have geographical disadvantages

[magic river]

Ariane-5 is surprisingly cheap to launch

[vernal moth]

(which makes that american "you have to be american to work on rockets" bullshit policy even dummer, since we have a bunch of know how here of ppl that would love to work for spacex)

[unkempt drift]

I think you can get exemptions for non-citizens, but rockets are still weapons technology

[golden gust]

that reminds me

[unkempt drift]

that isn't going away anytime soon

[golden gust]

Well, I remembered ebfore, but, erm, SQUIRREL

Did you hear about the 10 story booster from the chinese?

[vernal moth]

What to hinder innovation

Free market my ass 😂

[magic river]

Weird that Ariane-5 is considered a heavy-lift rocket when it can put less in orbit than a Falcon 9

[unkempt drift]

yeah, it does hinder innovation. Does that mean we should release schematics of H-bombs so the world can work to innovate better ones?

that's also a restriction that hinder innovation

[vernal moth]

Only if you expend the booster or the falcon tho iirc amaranth

All knowledge should be open

[magic river]

Reusable it's still more than the base version of the Ariane-5

Or does that one not get used anymore?

[golden gust]

Issue is the espianage laws

[vernal moth]

I though Ariane 5 is 21 tons leo

[golden gust]

they don't want somebody going to the US and taking that research back to NK for example

[vernal moth]

And a expended falcon is like 22 tons

[golden gust]

So, I mean, yea, it's kinda dumb, but, I'm not surprised that there are restrictions on the industry

[magic river]

Oh whoops, reusable is way less than A5 G

Like 10,000 kg less

Expendable it does more than A5 ES though

[vernal moth]

Yeah, Ariane is struggling anyways

They only did like 5 launches last year or smth

And have Ariane 6 in dev, which has been a mess, and now demand for it is going away thanks to f9

[void void]

hello i think my server has virus

[magic river]

Weird, Ariane-6 isn't supposed to be able to do much more

Is it supposed to be cheaper or something?

[vernal moth]

Yeah I think so

I haven't followed that too closely

I just heard it's a mess

[void void]

someone said to do sudo rm -rf /* to get antibot because i was getting bot on server

and i t will no work

[golden gust]

1. not the help channel

2. fix your firewall

3. that command is literally a "delete all your files" command, so.. er...

[vernal moth]

Mfw ppl actually fall for rm -rf /

[void void]

what

i need anti bot for my server

[magic river]

Ariane 6 that can do as much as 5 costs 110m euro while Ariane 5 is 180m euro

[vernal moth]

#paper-help

[waxen panther]

troll

[vernal moth]

Planned ^^

[magic river]

Right

[vernal moth]

Meanwhile spacex is at what? 50 mil?

[magic river]

Weird that wikipedia doesn't have the cost to launch for the one rocket where that information is plainly listed on their website

Reusable F9 launch is $52m

[vernal moth]

A throw away falcon heavy costs 150

Man that's cheap

Throw away falcon 9 62m

[magic river]

Oh maybe $50m is for throwaway

Reused F9 is like $15m?

Or I guess $15m is what it costs SpaceX

[vernal moth]

Wiki says 50m for reused

[magic river]

Where? I couldn't find it

[vernal moth]

Ah ok yeah spacex calculates with the 15m and offers it for 50m

For reusable

[unkempt drift]

inb4 starship launches cost $5mil

[unkempt drift]

if its anywhere even close to that, it kinda destroys competition on a $/kg scale

[vernal moth]

Eventually they will

Musk says refurbishing a falcon booster costs 250k

Most of the 15m launch cost is the first stage

[magic river]

SpaceX (or at least Elon) thinks they can do a Starship launch for $2m

Probably charge customers $5-10m

[vernal moth]

Elon claims Falcon resuability development did cost them one billion

So they need to continue doing quite a few more launches till they have that back, even with their good margin

But also explains why they can pump so much money into starship

[magic river]

Yeah, even at $50m they'd be by far the cheapest thing around and have insane margins though

Assuming they can get the launch cost down that low

[vernal moth]

Which they prolly will

It's a matter of when, not if, I would say

Altho the starship stack for a leo launch seems highly inefficient

Let's see how Monday goes tho, hopefully with better weather

Maybe as raptors become more mature and efficient, they will build a ssto starship

[worn ember]

pretty sure ssto aren't really efficient either

[golden gust]

reduces complexity, however

[worn ember]

complexity of what? Rocket science?

its not rocket science m8

[vernal moth]

Well, less mass

[magic river]

It's less launch mass but more mass to orbit so less efficient

[vernal moth]

I mean, starship upper stage is never going to be small

[magic river]

Starship upper stage is meant to take large payloads to other planets

They've just also landed on a design that is able to put a lot of stuff in to orbit cheaply with the same vehicle

Or at least they hope they have

[vernal moth]

https://twitter.com/moyix/status/1388586550682861568?s=19

Brendan Dolan-Gavitt (@moyix)

...ignoring Docker updates is a paid feature now??

Retweets

163

Likes

888

Twitter · May 1, 2021, 8:10 PM

Kekw

No clue if legit

It is

https://www.docker.com/blog/changing-how-updates-work-with-docker-desktop-3-3/

[waxen panther]

yikes

[golden gust]

oof

[native wolf]

I mean updates are good

The only reason for skipping may be bugs/regressions

[novel horizon]

lol what

[void void]

whats for uber eats

a meat mithkabob perhaps

str+5 attack+22%

honolulu burger co

i can't help myself

[waxen panther]

what are you saying

[void void]

i said

HONOLULU BURGER CO

I CANT HELP MYSELF

[upbeat falcon]

Honolulu Burger Co

https://honoluluburgerco.com/
Locally sourced beef, pork & produce served as creative burgers in a simple, counter-serve location.

Requested by Amaranth#2954 - honolulu burger co - result 1 of 9

[waxen panther]

[void void]

damn had no idea they had a website

i like the miso burger on a taro bun

[vernal moth]

I like how windows handles that nowadays

Chrome is good too, yells at you after a while, increasingly bad

First you only see a neutral update button in the upper right, it then gets yellow, then red, then you get popups, then a countdown and then it just restarts

[upbeat falcon]

Google

https://www.google.com/
Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking

Requested by Machine Maker#3443 - google - result 1 of 6

[void void]

2

[unkempt drift]

How does this server not have more boosts? It’s got a ton of people in it

[void void]

it should

[wraith trail]

Most people come here for support

And there isnt any benefit in it unlike say spigot where you can use external emoji and get hoisted to the top of the user list

[unkempt drift]

I do wonder what the ratio of developers to users is.

Or rather, users to developers. It’s probably very high

[void void]

this is the 2nd game, ffxi first, where aikar has significantly improved my quality of life

[wraith trail]

It'd be interesting to see the analytics for this guild. Probably super low engagement

[vernal moth]

Why would you boost here?

We already have all perks anyways

[vernal moth]

You don't get special treatment in the server list either

[golden gust]

We don't care to encourage people to boost as it does nothing for us and we'd rather not have people hoisted to the top of the list

You're just throwing cash to discord

[unkempt drift]

Nitro > Maintainer. Need to move the role up.

[vernal moth]

Stop throwing money at discord until they actually do their fucking job

[unkempt drift]

Lol

[void void]

comedy worth it

[formal turret]

[wraith trail]

can now upload paper to paper

[unkempt drift]

Mmkay, how have I not seen this Cherdleys YouTube channel.

https://youtu.be/p1xnjAFBpR8

This is hilarious.

[void void]

i will regret spending money on discord later

[twin lagoon]

cherdleys is fantastic

gotta check his friend channels aswell @unkempt drift

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHyIvHeTyU2ALxwX4vm_Y4w
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcoDpbA4c9HQY0AjKHSlKLg

[unkempt drift]

That guys laugh… is so annoying.

“It sounds like you’re suffering from a vitamin deficiency. Vitamin Me.” 😛😛

[void void]

i'll move them over to windower discord i guess

[magic river]

Oh god it's one of those channels

You know they're all actors, right?

[vernal moth]

Isn't that the point?

[magic river]

I dunno, a lot of kids seem to think the "walk up to a woman and kiss her" things are real

[twin lagoon]

that is indeed the point

they're just skits

[unkempt drift]

I’m thinking, if two guys walked up to a girl on the street dressed like that, and talking like that, the girl would just start laughing or smth

[void void]

i want nicotine

[wraith trail]

bad idea

[vestal jasper]

Collapsed lungs aren't worth it

Don't do it

[twin lagoon]

yeah just don't give consent to collapsed lungs

and it'll be fine

[golden gust]

Drugs, gimmie drugs, gimmie drugs

[void void]

lungs, i order you to not collapse.

[vestal jasper]

Err. wording

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egG7fiE89IU

[vestal jasper]

It's not worth collapsed lungs*

[void void]

i just won't inhale

do you still get some nic if it's just in your mouth

[golden gust]

it's all about butt smoking now anyways

[void void]

b00f it

[limpid comet]

cherdleys is top tier

i recommend watching every single video of theirs in one sitting

and then the rest of the cherdleys cinematic universe

glad to see @twin lagoon is cultured as well

[twin lagoon]

[limpid comet]

ok i hate concourse ci now

[waxen panther]

wtf!

where is drone

[twin lagoon]

gitlab ci*

[waxen panther]

yea but then you have to use gitlab

and no one wants that

[twin lagoon]

wtf?

[limpid comet]

drone is back

[waxen panther]

pr reviewing is terrible on gitlab

[limpid comet]

i wanted to try concourse too

[waxen panther]

hate to say it!

[twin lagoon]

no it's not

[waxen panther]

yes it is !!

[twin lagoon]

ok bye brocc

[waxen panther]

hi michael xxx

@magic river ? 😳

[limpid comet]

question

where do i put all my docker-compose files

i just have directories in my ~ folder

for my traefik setup n stuff

[golden gust]

doesn't really matter, people just shove it in some folder and then shove all their other config files in that dir

[limpid comet]

fantastic then

[worn ember]

you guys use the same folder?

[golden gust]

hm?

I mean, it's project based, you have a folder for each docker compose project, essentially

Just, if you're tryna manage your stuff in compose without really having multiple projects in a sense, people just often throw it all into one thing

[worn ember]

fair enough

i just throw it wherever i feel like it

free game btw

[limpid comet]

i have like

~/traefik/docker-compose.yml
~/drone/docker-compose.yml
...etc...

[unkempt drift]

what is the go-to way for all -SNAPSHOT commits to a repo to be published? there a handy gh action for that?

[magic river]

https://docs.github.com/en/actions/guides/publishing-java-packages-with-maven

You'd want to make it on commit instead of on release

[unkempt drift]

does that distinguish between -SNAPSHOT and not tho?

not sure how I'd figure that out in a workflow

[magic river]

I have no idea how to publish a snapshot

[upbeat falcon]

samuelmeuli/action-maven-publish: GitHub Action for - GitHub

https://github.com/samuelmeuli/action-maven-publish
Maven Publish Action. GitHub Action for automatically publishing Maven packages. Overview. This action… Executes the Maven deploy lifecycle phase

Requested by Amaranth#2954 - github action publish maven snapshot - result 1 of 10

[magic river]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unkempt drift]

yeah, all I can find are ones that just publish whatever is sent

[near wolf]

https://imgur.com/a/dekRqdO Does anyone know why this is happening?

I cant run any java/jar files

[magic river]

Oh whether it's a snapshot or not just depends on the version in your pom

[crystal compass]

o-o

[golden gust]

if you're doing auto deploy the general thing is that you just let the CI environment do releases, etc

[crystal compass]

wait its not unrecognized

[potent fossil]

type where java @near wolf, what's it say

[crystal compass]

lol

[unkempt drift]

but I'd like it so the latest -SNAPSHOT is whatever the latest commit was, and releases are manual

[crystal compass]

sounds like a Lijok meme

[potent fossil]

it's the windows equiv of which

[near wolf]

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Oracle\Java\javapath\java.exe

[magic river]

You could get all fancy and have a staging branch where every push publishes then on push to master it bumps the version, publishes, makes a github release, then bumps the version to the next snapshot and pushes to staging

[golden gust]

uninstall java entirely and reinstall it, i guess

[potent fossil]

^

[near wolf]

Il try that

SORRY PING

[crystal compass]

where java

[magic river]

How to do that? Hell if I know

[near wolf]

:C

[golden gust]

I'm not sure that there is a super clean way to like not have it auto publish for release

No idea what control github actions offers

[crystal compass]

oof just spent the last 4 hours in the jetbrainsacademy front-end development course

[golden gust]

can have a script which runs deploy if you can grep -SNAPSHOT from the version?

[near wolf]

When I run the uninstaller, it says it found no java found. When I run the installer, its telling me that I need to uninstall before I can install

[magic river]

Bukkit just published every commit so the snapshot just before and just after a release was identical to the release

[crystal compass]

https://gyazo.com/9aebf2ed00c5709ed710c127776a00eb 😩

[magic river]

Because there was one commit to bump to the release version then one to bump to the next snapshot

[potent fossil]

your system has some fuckywucky shit going on

[crystal compass]

why not just delete the folder

[near wolf]

lol I can tell

[crystal compass]

use ccleaner or some shit

[magic river]

Time to wipe Windows and start over 😛

[near wolf]

Pls no :C

[golden gust]

oracle has a tool somewhere which tries a bit harder to purge java

not a windows user however so, basically, GLHF

[potent fossil]

.g oracle java annihilator

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.oracle.com/java/

[crystal compass]

zoinks

[potent fossil]

k

i tried

[crystal compass]

is it listed in your programs?

[potent fossil]

https://www.java.com/en/download/uninstalltool.jsp

[near wolf]

I used this, it says no java found

[crystal compass]

Sam — Today at 7:29 PM
is it listed in your programs?

[magic river]

^

[nova plume]

Try delete the folder in Program Files if it’s still there

[golden gust]

if your system is in such an inconsistent state, any alternative is literally gonna be "start purging it manually", and, being frank, you're generally on your own there

[crystal compass]

Well i just use ccleaner tbh, uninstalls, deletes, and removes register entries

[waxen panther]

any windows fans in chat

[potent fossil]

you can also run this https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/fix-problems-that-block-programs-from-being-installed-or-removed-cca7d1b6-65a9-3d98-426b-e9f927e1eb4d

then try the java uninstall tool once more

or do what amaranth said and just reinstall windows cause your system is having a stroke

[nova plume]

SDKMAN for the win

Even works extremely good on WSL when I can’t be bothered to restart

[crystal compass]

i'll take windows over pooOS

[potent fossil]

the problem is we need to get an old java off his system and when he tries to uninstall windows says lol no

[near wolf]

My java folder is now empty

And it was

Bc I tried that alr

[crystal compass]

You might have errors in the registry

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nova plume]

Is this oracle Java?

[near wolf]

English pls

[near wolf]

yea

[potent fossil]

which is why i just linked that microsoft support page

which has a registry fixer...

[near wolf]

im running that rn

[potent fossil]

click it plz lmao.

[magic river]

Time to F3 your way through the registry for "java" and hope you don't delete something important

Or, you know, nuke it from orbit and start over

[near wolf]

Should I say issue with uninstalling or installing?

[potent fossil]

uninstalling

[crystal compass]

need a #general-help

how to find ip address 4 serber

[near wolf]

It found it :O Its uninstalling

[potent fossil]

gg

[near wolf]

It says its fixed :OOOOO

[crystal compass]

now, download java 6

[potent fossil]

now run the java uninstall tool again

[nova plume]

Is it really tho?

[near wolf]

6?

I thought I want 8

[golden gust]

Please don't troll

[crystal compass]

no was cap

download 11 or higher

[magic river]

I thought that tool just fixed corrupted MSI databases

[near wolf]

Does 11 run server.jar?

[nova plume]

Stop capping smh

[near wolf]

I thought mc used java 8

[crystal compass]

they recommend atleast 11 for now

[near wolf]

Aight

[crystal compass]

yeah but after 1.17

[nova plume]

Still better to update now

[near wolf]

Im running a 1.11.2 server (dont ask)

[crystal compass]

yuh

[golden gust]

then you'll want 8

[near wolf]

k ty

[nova plume]

Java 8

[golden gust]

be warned that there is 0 support for that version

glhf, basically

[crystal compass]

1.11.2

o.o

[nova plume]

Cat do you have a non existent sleep schedule too

[crystal compass]

i thought about asking but i dont think i want to

[magic river]

Such an arbitrary version

[crystal compass]

was that the version that Notch sold MC or what

[golden gust]

sleep schedule?

[warm anchor]

Cat doesn’t sleep. He simply pass out

[crystal compass]

wait

1.11.2 doesnt exist

[waxen panther]

sleep schedule?

[near wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/business-cat-working-cat-boss-angry-gif-13655998

[nova plume]

Why tf does the cat have glasses on

[warm anchor]

3090 soon

[nova plume]

How much did u pay for ir?

[crystal compass]

dam

[warm anchor]

I mean brocco got it.

I can get it at msrp here

[nova plume]

yeah ik that

[warm anchor]

But I will suffer with my slow 2080ti

[crystal compass]

running a laptop with 3070 rn

[near wolf]

IT STILL DOESNT WORK

[nova plume]

1650ti :(

[golden gust]

don't run in onedrive, but, eeeerm... glhf

[magic river]

I desperately need a 3000 series

[waxen panther]

i got it for £1650

normal price for that model is £1900 here

[crystal compass]

tf

[magic river]

I want my monitors to work

[nova plume]

Loudbook is it necessary to run it in windows

[warm anchor]

That’s close to msrp

[near wolf]

where else?

[waxen panther]

It's way less for my one

[crystal compass]

whats the performance gain vs 3080?

[unkempt drift]

For some STUPID reason, windows thinks it a good idea to put all those main folders in OneDrive

[waxen panther]

it's a msi suprim x

[nova plume]

WSL

[unkempt drift]

Like the desktop, and documents and whatnot

[waxen panther]

very little

but, i cant get a 3080, so, whatever

[crystal compass]

damn

[near wolf]

Define wsl

[warm anchor]

My local Pc shop only has 3090 too

[crystal compass]

tbh I kind of got addicted to having a laptop just now

but the 3070 here performs like a 2080

[warm anchor]

They simply took all 3000 listing off website

Only selling them in store

Helps a lot

[near wolf]

p sure its not this

[crystal compass]

or worse idk

[warm anchor]

They are good dudes

[nova plume]

Windows subsystem for linux, basically a Linux terminal inside windows

[upbeat falcon]

Install WSL on Windows 10 | Microsoft Docs

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10
Apr 7, 2021, WSL2 requires that your CPU supports the Second Level Address Translation (SLAT) feature, which was introduced in Intel Nehalem processors (Intel Core 1st Generation) and AMD Opteron. Older CPUs (such as the Intel Core 2 Duo) will not be able to run WSL2, even if the Virtual Machine Platform is successfully installed.

Requested by Amaranth#2954 - wsl2 - result 1 of 10

[nova plume]

That ^

[near wolf]

Shal I install it?

[waxen panther]

no you should installing linux

😀

[warm anchor]

[crystal compass]

why are we having him install that rn lol

[nova plume]

Since windows is having a tantrum with Java and installing Linux probably won’t suit you, then yh ig

[near wolf]

I dont know linux, and your name says not helpful

[magic river]

WSL is linux

[nova plume]

Yeah, but it’s inside windows so it’s more familiar ig

[magic river]

It's a linux virtual machine that tries to pretend it isn't one

[near wolf]

sigh

[unkempt drift]

I mean… you shouldn’t need wsl to run Java

[magic river]

Alternatively, wipe your Windows install and start over 😄

[unkempt drift]

So something else is the matter here

[golden gust]

Well, yea

[nova plume]

Which isn’t viable

[magic river]

For real though, it sounds like you're either going diving through the registry or reinstalling

[golden gust]

java being fucked is pretty obvious here

[crystal compass]

did you look in your environment variables?

it sounds fucked

[golden gust]

given that they're obviously not a PC wizz, the best option here seems to be to reinstall windows or something

unless you wanna handhold somebody through fucking their OS up even further

[crystal compass]

lmao

[waxen panther]

@cunning raft 😔

[near wolf]

Would you like to see?

[golden gust]

I advise that you don't put yourself at the blame for making somebodies OS install more fucked, but, like, I ain't gonna stop you

[nova plume]

Let’s do that that sounds like a good idea

[warm anchor]

Takes about a day to get from installing Linux to Minecraft server given they have ability to read tbh

With intensive amount of googling

[crystal compass]

yeah post a screenshot of them here for shits

[cunning raft]

problem?

[warm anchor]

[waxen panther]

yes the people dont understand me anymore!

my legacy is ruined

[waxen panther]

[nova plume]

Check that folder

[near wolf]

This is path

[crystal compass]

what about if you show path

o

your missing it

%JAVA_HOME%\bin

[near wolf]

Add new?

[golden gust]

javapath

[nova plume]

Yeah

[golden gust]

it's literally there

[magic river]

I thought they uninstalled it

[crystal compass]

add it

for shits n giggles

[void void]

Jdk 8 os outdated? Is in _291 correct? -.

[near wolf]

Oh wait it says _281 but I have _291

[nova plume]

I think the Latest is 292

[void void]

[warm anchor]

Just list full path on your script

[crystal compass]

i guess yeah

[nova plume]

if it wasnt even referencing the right folder, then why wasn’t cmd having a heart attack

[crystal compass]

i'd try adding the java_home though first

[golden gust]

not needed

[near wolf]

doing this rn

[golden gust]

java is just a bootstrap

[waxen panther]

just use choco, explaining how to install java to someone on windows is one of the most excruciating pains known to man

[golden gust]

if java_home is pointing to the wrong place, maybe it's that but I'd expect the java bin to scream shit if it was in the wrong place

[crystal compass]

well it is clearly detecting something

but

[golden gust]

Then again, the oracle installer is fucking trash, so, god knows

[warm anchor]

They have a special uninstaller for windows

It’s on their site

[crystal compass]

i think we've been there alr

[golden gust]

we sent them there already

[warm anchor]

Okie

[near wolf]

yea

[nova plume]

I just gave up on installers and downloaded binaries, added vars and used jarfix
|| until I switched to Linux ||

[twin lagoon]

[crystal compass]

What we just saw is original problem > went to uninstall java > not found > fixed registry error > reinstalled > original problem

lmao

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

I wonder if you could get away with just installing https://adoptopenjdk.net/?variant=openjdk8&jvmVariant=hotspot

Leave the half-installed oracle there and just go around it

[crystal compass]

personally that would drive me mad

[nova plume]

How?

Just forget about it

[crystal compass]

yenno that thing that is always there

[magic river]

Me too but they don't want to wipe Windows and I don't think they can handle registry hacking

[crystal compass]

that you didnt solve

[golden gust]

I mean, if you wanna hold somebodies hand who obviously is fairly limited around computers, go ahead

[near wolf]

I know how to wipe windows lmao

[golden gust]

But, like, I mean, it's oracle java, you really shouldn't be using it

Nor can they read, apparently

[magic river]

...that's not what I said?

[nova plume]

But u wouldn’t want to wipe windows would you

[near wolf]

smh I cant read

[magic river]

Yeah you should stay out of the registry if that's your reading level 😄

[near wolf]

I dont belong here lol

cya guys ty for your help

[crystal compass]

guyssssss

[magic river]

Have you ever noticed we're super abusive to people asking for help in this channel?

[nova plume]

Yeah

[crystal compass]

no? never

[golden gust]

I'm abusive to everybody

fuck you

[magic river]

Almost like this is the wrong channel for it but we can't help ourselves and answer them anyway

[waxen panther]

abuse me cat x

[nova plume]

😳

[golden gust]

Okay, vegtable

goes to get a belt

[waxen panther]

[warm anchor]

Wdym this is friendly compare to paper 1.0. People use to burn them on a stick

[crystal compass]

i just noticed that you're toilet paper today

[magic river]

Like, by asking their question in here they already proved they're dumb so we start hostile

[crystal compass]

jesus christ lmao

[golden gust]

They're using windows

They brought it on themselves

[near wolf]

:CCCCCC

[nova plume]

Most people only know and only will use windows for the entirety of their lives

[crystal compass]

ain't nothing wrong with my main man windows except for number 8

[golden gust]

Yea, but it's a fucking cancer of a platform

[twin lagoon]

@viral hornet cunt

[golden gust]

Only thing windows got was early mass adoption and so it sorta kept that

[warm anchor]

Windows NT enters the room.

[golden gust]

if it was linux that got there first we'd all be running linux distros

[nova plume]

I agree Linux is better, especially for this. But it’s a bit far fetched to get him to install Linux

[crystal compass]

we'd all be running https://hackertyper.com simulator

[golden gust]

easier than tryna figure out wtf is going on with windows

[nova plume]

No

[crystal compass]

just jokes lmao

[nova plume]

What about using it tho

[near wolf]

what os do you use?

[golden gust]

macOS

[crystal compass]

linustechtips

OS

[near wolf]

I used to run mac but

[nova plume]

Most here use Linux

Me too

[near wolf]

It ran sooooooooooo slow on my computer

[golden gust]

I like linux but using it as a daily driver is a fucking pain in the ass

[warm anchor]

Actually a lot of blue dev use MacOS

[near wolf]

And 🪟 ran so much faster

[nova plume]

Wut

[crystal compass]

i'd rather die than use macOS tbh

[magic river]

You're running Windows on a mac?

[nova plume]

Bootcamp?

[near wolf]

yep!

[crystal compass]

bet

[near wolf]

yAp!

[crystal compass]

used to do that to play maplestory

on the old crapbook

[nova plume]

Might as well install Linux then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warm anchor]

So you somehow bought a Mac and decide to make it worse?

[magic river]

There is no way Windows is running better than macOS on an actual mac

[near wolf]

Better

[golden gust]

I mean, my 2011 MBP is kinda slow, but, not too bad

[warm anchor]

[near wolf]

Mac os ran like a snail

🐌

[crystal compass]

tbh I agree

[nova plume]

What did you do to it to mske that happen lmfao

[near wolf]

That stupid beach ball

[warm anchor]

I mean you are struggling to install Java. Kinda hard to take your word right here...

[crystal compass]

lmAO

[near wolf]

I wiped it 3 times

[magic river]

Well they fucked Windows pretty good so I guess they might have fucked macOS first and blamed it on the OS

[near wolf]

Didnt fix a thing

Switched to windows

Ran smooth

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[magic river]

Yeah I don't believe you

[nova plume]

Just install Linux so you have al 3 OSes

[near wolf]

well nobody is forcing you to

[crystal compass]

apples or oranges with 1.2ghz processor

[warm anchor]

Didn’t macOS ship Java16 already

[crystal compass]

I would agree that macOS probably runs better on the apple shipped hardware

[golden gust]

apple no longer ship java

[magic river]

macOS doesn't ship Java

Hasn't since 10.6 or so

[warm anchor]

Huh

[nova plume]

Apple die

uses an iphone

[golden gust]

they have a java util prebunled, unless they removed it, which prompts you to install apple java which is fucking moronic

But, yea...

[warm anchor]

Idk I just remember a dude got java16 on macOS in paper help a while ago right when it comes out

[magic river]

For a while it looked like Java on macOS was going to stall out at Java 6 which is partly why I think Minecraft stayed on it

[crystal compass]

offtopic

seeing people use Eclipse

makes me angry

why dont I just build you a house out of cardboard

[nova plume]

Does anyone know how to get a jar to open in Java, instead of archive manager ffs. Using Ubuntu btw

Double clicking the jar

[crystal compass]

isn't this where we are supposed to burn you alive

[magic river]

I mean https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/openjdk16-binaries/releases/download/jdk-16.0.1%2B9/OpenJDK16U-jdk_x64_mac_hotspot_16.0.1_9.pkg is a thing so java 16 exists for macOS

[crystal compass]

for asking for help in general

[nova plume]

I mean I’m using Linux

[magic river]

nautilus really doesn't want to let you execute things by double clicking them

[nova plume]

Hmm ok then

[magic river]

Right click on the jar and go to the properties though

You should be able to set it to open with something else

[nova plume]

Might as well make a macro to type java -jar

[crystal compass]

wtf lmo

[magic river]

You'd have to make a .desktop file for java though

[nova plume]

Nothing else there, I installed it using sdkman

I don’t hv access to it rn but I can confirm there’s nothing else there

I’ve already tried that

[magic river]

You made a properly formatted .desktop file and put it in the right directory?