oh ye, thanks kids who've never paid taxes in their lives
#general
nova plume
:)
worn ember
we just pay what we have to pay lmao
no need for tax returns
but my taxes for the last few years have been 0 thats correct since i'm still a student
plucky canopy
best buy, putting a sale on an out of stock gpu
nova plume
They’re brains are too powerful
magic river
You could have zero withholding and pay quarterly instead, would probably not have returns then
worn ember
the employer pays taxes every month and its automatically withheld from your paycheck
potent fossil
its the same thing here
magic river
Yeah, we do that too but we have enough tax credits and tax exempt things that it's impossible to tell what the withholding should be ahead of time
potent fossil
that's why come tax season the IRS determines what you should have paid and if you paid too much you get a return/refund. if you paid too little they will tell you to send them more
worn ember
thats stupid tho, why not just wait till they know how much you have to pay instead
magic river
Except they don't tell you this, they make you figure it out on your own then tell you if you did it wrong
potent fossil
this is why i employ an accountant
but he fucking mistyped my got damn account number
golden gust
gg
potent fossil
so now im mad
golden gust
Well, hey, at least they tell you when you're wrong
worn ember
at least yours didnt make you go bankrupt lol
magic river
People are bad at saving money, if you hit them with a $10,000 bill at the end of the year, even if they knew it was coming, they'd die
golden gust
Simple did that to himself
I saw some thing a while back and people where surprised that they didn't get as much back on their tax return as they basically took more money home vs over paying
and they where fucked because they where expecting like a windfall in cash
magic river
Right, tried to sell a change in tax policy as a tax cut for low income people when it was really just a reduction in the estimated withholding so they didn't get as much as the end of the year or had to pay in instead
potent fossil
there are a lot of people who dont understand how it works, and then put on their W-2 that they have 14 dependents and get max paycheck and then lose their minds when come tax season they owe a couple grand
and then they just continue to do that every year because they never learn
they just learn that april = bad juju
or something
magic river
worn ember
lol
lethal locust
Guys, serious question. If a buyer opens a PayPal case about digital goods, they risk the seller's money. So, wouldn't it be fair for the seller to risk the buyer's digital goods by suspending the buyer regardless if they lose?
worn ember
permaban
potent fossil
yeah its not unheard of to be suspended/revoked for charging back at all regardless out outcome
just put it in your terms...
golden gust
at the point at which they charge back, the cost is already reversed by paypal
worn ember
tebex and stuff even has an option to ban after chargeback
golden gust
if you want "legal" fair, go speak to a lawyer
lethal locust
Nah, was just checking my perspective
magic river
I think it's a shit move and am sad there is no way for me to avoid it when buying video games
lethal locust
Nothing actually happened
magic river
Banning future purchases is one thing, banning from the system entirely so past purchases are lost is shitty
worn ember
steam has a 2h refund policy
golden gust
Like, it's caveated
as a software distributor you don't wanna be fucked because the person whos software you're passing on is trash
But, companies refund policies for digital goods are often kinda ass, especially around stuff like pre-orders
lethal locust
By the way, my father had so many Google chrome tabs open in his phone, the counter became a smiley face
worn ember
if you pre order you deserve all the shit
worn ember
By the way, my father had so many Google chrome tabs open in his phone, the coun...
lmao
lethal locust
I know, I was laughing when I saw it
lethal locust
But yeah, personally I have a balanced refund policy
I avoid many problems and often the refund is partial
worn ember
technically you cant get a refund for a donation 
potent fossil
is it just me or are almost all the games currently on sale on steam low tier and shit as fuck
worn ember
game industry in a nutshell rn
golden gust
fallen oracle
lethal locust
So, I recently learned that gpu prices are beyond the clouds
waxen panther
welcome to 2021
worn ember
glad i dont need a new one for the next couple years
modest path
damn 300eur?
golden gust
%random_female% in the morning
lethal locust
Literally found a seller and told them to fuck off
lethal locust
Good luck
worn ember
i wonder if people actually buy those tho
waxen panther
they do
worn ember
haha dum
waxen panther
i found a buyer for my 1080 in like 8 seconds
lethal locust
300 EUR for an obsolete already used low tier technology, I hope the seller is scammed
magic river
It makes money mining so you're the sucker for selling it
ashen cliff
What about the RX470/480/570/580/590? 
magic river
I think AMD cards sell for more since they mine better
worn ember
well nows my time
who needs a gpu anyway
i really hope this crypto shit fucks off soon
lethal locust
I also heard that apple is working on M1X, so Intel and and should be terrified
golden gust
apparently the M2 is already in the printer
lethal locust
xD no
modest path
apparently the M2 is already in the printer
the printer
worn ember
only good thing about it is that its an integrated circuit so can be smaller
magic river
Dunno if it's M1X or M2
golden gust
First gen ARM desktop CPU which is strong as all fuck in pretty much every benchmark?
Microsoft working on their own ARM chip?
potent fossil
how many times can apple do the "it's the fastest processor ever created" ad before the phrase gets old
magic river
Whatever they call it it's probably going to have 8 big cores
golden gust
Yea, Intel and AMD are really happy right now
potent fossil
like how can they keep spinning it, even if it's true or close to the truth
worn ember
apparently for the past 10 years or so
lethal locust
Yea, Intel and AMD are *really* happy right now
x86 cough cough
golden gust
Apple have just proven that for the majority of desktop users, you don't need x86
worn ember
"the best mic ever put in a mac" "the best webcam ever put in a mac" "the best ever speakers put in a mac" yea ok good for you lol
next year same thing
brave radish
Intel's twitter feed is just sad
ashen cliff
X86 is legacy.
lethal locust
Tru stori
brave radish
"the best mic ever put in a mac" "the best webcam ever put in a mac" "the best e...
tbf, the new camera is a lot better lol
worn ember
are we on 128bit now?
waxen panther
no
lethal locust
are we on 128bit now?
Nah, 64 is still much
golden gust
think both intel and amd have arm projects in the works or something now, but, er...
128 bit is just dumb
worn ember
no u
golden gust
CPUs are still 32 bit instructions last I knew, just the data is 64 bit wide
waxen panther
any homies with 16 exabytes of memory ? 😁
lethal locust
Apple got the lead, just like Tesla. MacBooks were the underdogs for years
worn ember
Wide putin data
brave radish
magic river
Apple has had the lead in PC revenue for a long time afaik
lethal locust
Well, if you consider their thermals
worn ember
they were never better either tho, and just costed twice as much
lethal locust
70c on your leg isn't enjoyable
golden gust
Apples thermal issues was on Intel not delivering their promises
magic river
They didn't cost twice as much if you tried to actually build a comparable PC
golden gust
BUT, MY PLASTIC FANTASTIC LAPTOP IS CHEAPER!
brave radish
well yeah... a comparable desktop would be a lot cheaper
magic river
Sure, if you didn't give a shit about build quality or some of the features they shipped standard you could get a shitbox pretty cheap
golden gust
even laptop vs custom desktop apple weren't too far off in the scheme of things
magic river
Otherwise they usually traded back and forth within a couple hundred dollars with their actual competition (XPS and such)
lethal locust
I was watching the new fanless MacBook air eat an Intel & an AMD laptop yesterday for dinner
worn ember
guess i've been cheaping on then lol
brave radish
Apple have just proven that for the majority of desktop users, you don't need x8...
I'm not sure there's a single desktop user that does other then those who write in assembly or work for Intel
golden gust
For some of their products, you've gotta consider the actual marketspace they where designed for
magic river
Apple does overcharge for RAM and SSD though
ashen cliff
Daily reminder: PS4 is not X86.
magic river
Everyone else does too but Apple does a little more and these days you can't put in your own
worn ember
oh i remember yeah, actual prices werent that far of but its when you break something that shit goes bonkers
golden gust
I mean, for a long time arm laptops have been pretty shitty and there's been a long running thing that arm just ain't up to the task
lethal locust
Daily reminder: PS4 is not X86. <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
What is it?
magic river
Get AppleCare
ashen cliff
Playstation 4.
lethal locust
._.
magic river
PS4 is 8 cores of a design AMD thought could go in tablets
worn ember
idk why i would pay for a service in case my shit breaks instead of just paying a normal price when it breaks
golden gust
apparently based on x86-64 though
I mean, apple, and most companies in general, fuck you over when shit breaks
like, it's a safety net to minimise the gape hole they leave
brave radish
Apple be like "yes, that logic board in your laptop which is only worth $400? We'll replace it with a discount, but will cost $700"
golden gust
hopefulyl they don't catch ya, but, if shit happens
worn ember
i just think the philosophy of "if its broken dont fix it and just buy another one lol" is so flawed
golden gust
yea, 100%
worn ember
generates so much unneeded waste
golden gust
apple shamefully ain't the only fucker in that game though
worn ember
oh for sure
magic river
I didn't get the extended warranty for my XPS because I opened up the case the first day I owned it 😛
I would get it for a MBP though
brave radish
i just think the philosophy of "if its broken dont fix it and just buy another o...
not sure even Apple can fix all of their stuff though; it's so tiny lol
golden gust
They can
worn ember
they can replace parts
golden gust
it's just "not economical"
worn ember
instead of yeeting the whole thing
golden gust
rossman has been repairing their shit for years
magic river
There are only 4 major parts in a modern MBP: screen, keyboard, battery, logic board
worn ember
they literally pay companies to destroy perfectly repairable phones so they wouldnt be resold
magic river
The rest is the cables and screws to put those together
golden gust
shit happens
unique snow
they literally pay companies to destroy perfectly repairable phones so they woul...
That's just Apple's 100% renewable design
golden gust
Like, people spill crap, hardware lets out the magic smoke inevitably, etc
unique snow
Which isn't a total farce at all
worn ember
yeah i love how they promote being "ecological" and then pull shit like that
golden gust
There is apparently a company which offers battery replacements in their earbuds
magic river
100% renewable at their established final assembly plants 😛
brave radish
yeah i love how they promote being "ecological" and then pull shit like that
we recycle our MacBooks! we just do so 20x more often then needed
golden gust
has anybody here had an apple cable last longer than like 2 years now?
magic river
They ship all the stuff to another building, that building does things cleanly, and they market the whole operation as clean
brave radish
has anybody here had an apple cable last longer than like 2 years now?
yes
golden gust
modern cable?
brave radish
yup
worn ember
its shit like this that really makes me hate corporations (not just apple)
brave radish
well.. if my "modern" you don't mean less than two years lol
golden gust
unless they changed the material, they where using this rubber crap which like leaches, turns green and then just flakes away
brave radish
I mean I have lightning cables from Apple that I've used for years
waxen panther
i had the same one for like 4 years
brave radish
and the charging cable that came with my 2017 MBP is still perfectly Appley clean
golden gust
Yea, just looked it my lighting one and its fine
guess they changed the material then
worn ember
my charging cable has no coating anymore its just the cables 
they're like 6 years old now tho
unique snow
guess they changed the material then
Well maybe that was an accident, the material couldn't have gotten much worse
Oh sorry
waxen panther
banned
worn ember
worn ember
i mean thats basically any phone connector/charger
unique snow
The only cables I've ever had fall apart are Apple ones, or no name brand ones from the depths of China
brave radish
https://fee.org/articles/this-is-the-real-reason-your-iphone-cables-break/
welp never happened to me or any of the twenty Macs a month I see when people break them
golden gust
everybody I know who has had apple devices has had cables which do that
brave radish
🤷♂️
golden gust
Apple literally started giving away free replacements to some stuff like power bricks and cables because of this
brave radish
maybe they make the ones they ship here differently? I mean I know they all come from China but idk
unique snow
Ahh they're PVC free
brave radish
Come to think of it, I might still have the cable from a 2011 Mac mini that works
Either that or I lost it and replaced it cuz there's some cable in it lol
unique snow
Yeah they last if you're extra careful.
worn ember
This is what mine looks like now cx
brave radish
oof
golden gust
green sludgy slime in there too?
unique snow
You basically don't want to move your device while it's charging.
golden gust
But, yea, Theyjust sorta like break down if you mvoe them and such
best you can do is heat shrink the fucker
brave radish
I don't even charge my phone with a cable anymore
brave radish
ik it's slow; that's why I use it
unique snow
For now at least
magic river
The wasteful part is kind of a laws of physics thing
golden gust
it gets stupidly hot, heats the phone up which kills the battery early...
worn ember
to not overheat the battery cuz of fast charging
magic river
The slow part is at least partly because of the wasteful part, if you made it faster it'd melt your phone from the waste heat
unique snow
Yeah wireless charging can never be as efficient
brave radish
it gets stupidly hot, heats the phone up which kills the battery early...
doesn't make my phone real hot
worn ember
my phone pretty much shits itself when its charging idk why
unique snow
They are leaps and bounds away from the theoretical limit though
brave radish
it also is a slow charger even by wireless charging standards
with an even slower power brick (USB)
golden gust
I mean, is that your phone cable?
If you become grounded, i.e. you rub against or near the sheiled wire in the cable, you'll often get odd behavior
same case for if it's not actually making a connection all the way though too potentially
i get the same isse with my OP charger as that's doing the same thing
worn ember
its not the charging thats messed up, just android going super slow mode when its charging
golden gust
But, I generally just slow USB and charge over night anyways, so 🤷♂️
worn ember
unless ur talking to zombie
Forge devs: nonono dont do it that way do it this way
Me: but i cant do it that way
forge devs: reee
Me: asks again later
forge devs: yeah you cant do that, make a pr lol
waxen panther
ok
brave radish
forge
magic river
Neat, electric car inductive chargers are up to 86% efficiency
brave radish
there's your problem
magic river
Cell phone chargers are at 53%
potent fossil
how does the m1 macbook air compare to the m1 macbook pro? they look...the same, just air w/ no touchbar?
magic river
Pro has an extra GPU core and doesn't thermal throttle
worn ember
how does one charge a car with induction?
brave radish
how does the m1 macbook air compare to the m1 macbook pro? they look...the same,...
well being as the air has no fans it has to throttle faster; pro has bigger battery
magic river
They're mostly identical for bursty workloads
potent fossil
ironic, being called air and having no airflow
brave radish
(assuming you buy the 8 core air, since there's one with a 7 core gpu)
potent fossil
well im still not sold simply bc it only has 2x thunderbolt
worn ember
more like ground book
brave radish
if you look at the iMac, do not get the 7 core GPU at least without looking carefully
worn ember
just buy a dongle for 40bucks kappa
brave radish
if you look at the iMac, do *not* get the 7 core GPU at least without looking ca...
there are other differences they don't have as evident
potent fossil
they fucked up there
brave radish
what's wrong with them?
potent fossil
the huge empty space on the bottom is disgusting
they are truly fugly machines this time around
potent fossil
yeah, that's about it
golden gust
lyk ur gal
potent fossil
ill have you know my girl is sexy from all directions
worn ember
reminds me of that one direction joke
yo mama so ugly one direction turns the other direction
brave radish
well im still not sold simply bc it only has 2x thunderbolt
the mini only has two thunderbolts but also two "old" USBs if you care
potent fossil
i have an intel mbp im not rushing to buy a new laptop
im waiting for an M1/M2 one actually worth the time to finish the order process tho
atm they're jokes for anyone who does anything other than basic shit
potent fossil
2 inputs is not enough on a pro machine and neither is 8/16gb of memory
it's a joke
worn ember
bruh their specs are kinda poop for anything other than normal use
golden gust
as I say, my long term goal is probs to just build a remote machine I can install some remote software on or use steam play or whatever and use that for gaming from a mac which I use for the daily
worn ember
i was kinda amazed at how mediocre it was when i saw the specs lol
potent fossil
(atm)
golden gust
defo waiting for apple to release models with more ram though
unique snow
Why is the M1 chip desirable exactly?
golden gust
apple has never been a gaming player
otherwise, their hardware performance looks pretty fucking sweet
modest path
as I say, my long term goal is probs to just build a remote machine I can instal...
i did this with an hp ultrabook, it wasn't very good
unique snow
Like performance per watt I'm guessing?
golden gust
For gaming you'd wanna be going over LAN
performance per watt, performance benchmarks in general
worn ember
i used to play games on my laptop from my desktop through steam (shadow?) play
waxen panther
gaming per watt
worn ember
was pretty ok experience
potent fossil
anyway, besides a good arch install when running well, mac is an amazing experience for development. everything just works. and the speed of the M1 has made me pop one a few times tbh
unique snow
RISC overall is better than CISC for many things.
worn ember
lol.......
potent fossil
Yeah this is why I have you blocked. Back to keeping them shits collapsed
magic river
M1 is not a RISC 😛
potent fossil
Yes it is
unique snow
I mean if you're going to be condescending I really don't care.
worn ember
🍿
magic river
It's reduced compared to x86 but it has NEON and SVE and instructions for JavaScript and etc
potent fossil
It's still a RISC by definition
unique snow
I thought they were?
magic river
RISC should only have as many instructions as needed
worn ember
powered by JavaScript™️
magic river
Once you're adding in instructions for special cases you aren't RISC anymore
potent fossil
Ok let me call it KRISC
magic river
They both decode to micro ops anyway so it doesn't matter much
potent fossil
Kinda Reduced
worn ember
can we just yeet JS tbh
unique snow
I suppose you could call it RISC-like then.
waxen panther
No no, it's Apple
potent fossil
coffee time
waxen panther
It's Risc +
magic river
I don't know if RISC-V is "true" RISC either but it's closer
brave radish
RISC+ Pro Max Ultimate 5G Awesome
unique snow
I think as WASM evolves and if it manages to gain more traction it may reduce dependence on JavaScript, but think it's here to stay all the same.
magic river
iirc ARM isn't even purely a load/store architecture anymore
And that's supposed to be one of the defining things about RISC
cunning raft
was it really not funny
how old are you
neon scroll
how old are you
17 wbu
waxen panther
17 months?
cunning raft
17 cows?
waxen panther
i dunno, i thought it was
neon scroll
my bad, target audience of this guild must be men in their 30s-40s
can’t appreciate the youngsters’ sense of humor these days
chilly marsh
s\
cunning raft
and the jebait gnome memes are like 2012
neon scroll
latest meme in there is literally just some black dude in water and someone calling it an ender man
what the heck
unique snow
To be fair, it's pretty funny to use such a dated meme.
worn ember
dont mind the grumpies, they havent had their oatmeal yet
unique snow
lol
magic river
The fucking micro op cache is used as a side channel via timing attacks
Every CPU worth using has a micro op cache
That includes ARM
golden gust
noice
peak ginkgo
yarg "a team o computer science"
livid plume
does anyone know how many player connections bungee can handle before i gotta switch to smth like velocity?
golden gust
boils more on hardware than anything
livid plume
cries
waxen panther
we love velocity
livid plume
boils more on hardware than anything
okok
golden gust
at the point at which you're overloading the proxy, you wanna look at horizontal scaling anyways, even if you do switch
livid plume
ok thankyou c: id just hate to rewrite most my plugins to velocity
dont you pensive me
waxen panther
but velocity api is so nice 😔
livid plume
ill look into it sometime but rn im so overflooded with work lmao
livid plume
XDD
peak ginkgo
if they use plugin messaging you won't have to change much lol
magic river
lol some miners have apparently given up on GPU mining recently but are still buying up all the GPUs they can to scalp them to suckers who think mining will pay for it or to gamers who are desperate
ETH difficulty has doubled recently, mostly from new ASICs for mining it
When transaction fees get destroyed in the update this summer it'll make GPU mining even less attractive for ETH
And then by probably the end of the year mining just goes away for ETH
Unfortunately there are other coins you can use GPUs on, not sure if any of them are worth doing without being able to share the work with ETH though
true canyon
If ETH goes proof of stake but other things are still possible to mine, won't they just mine another coin and exchange to ETH?
magic river
They mine other coins and exchange to ETH now
But afaik you can share some of the hashing work between chains so once ETH mining is removed is mining those other coins worth it?
Oh, apparently you can't share the work with scrypt coins (the only ones where GPU mining still works)
Those other coins are only profitable to GPU mine right now because everyone is mining ETH though
If all the ETH miners move to another coin the difficulty will skyrocket but the market cap won't be there to make it profitable
muted flower
Hello guys!
waxen panther
gm
muted flower
gm
Where do I go for support for my PaperMC Server?
Sorry if this is annoying! D:
wraith trail
no, just ask the question
true canyon
Waiting...
muted flower
I see.
true canyon
You got this
potent fossil
mbax is cute
waxen panther
TRUE
worn ember
.ask
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
potent fossil
and the no DCC on Kitteh
crystal compass
wait so in JS the method parameters don't take a type of object? thats whack
waxen panther
wat
limpid comet
JS isn't typed
true canyon
except the factions part but we ignore that
Wow okay
wraith trail
use typescript if you want that
potent fossil
^
wraith trail
yeah no types
crystal compass
no int a
limpid comet
Big true ts is cute
waxen panther
yes
potent fossil
JS is not typed
waxen panther
sorry mbax 😔
potent fossil
This is not some huge revelation 
wraith trail
typescript you can do a: number, b: number
peak ginkgo
def sum(a: int, b: int):
return a + b
python type hints based af
waxen panther
limpid comet
ew python
potent fossil
python type hints annoy me
crystal compass
¯_(ツ)_/¯
peak ginkgo
Java and Python are all I need
crystal compass
i guess it makes for less work?
limpid comet
i think im allergic to python or something
crystal compass
lmao
peak ginkgo
limpid comet
writing it makes me want to gouge my eyes
waxen panther
i need my braces
crystal compass
getting used to js is a weird change from java
peak ginkgo
they're just suggestions
waxen panther
just use ts like a real gamer
crystal compass
lul
peak ginkgo
anything I ned ts for I can write in python
abstract peak
anyone know anything about .bat executable files?
peak ginkgo
.g batch files
limber knotBOT
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abstract peak
I'm trying to run this command mklink /j "C:\C:Users\Ergenta\AppData\Local\BraveSoftware" "G:/Everything_Else/BraveSoftware"```Ok and
limpid comet
/ and \
waxen panther
ts compiles into js Sam
magic river
Two C:
crystal compass
nice catch
peak ginkgo
crystal compass
im terrible at sussing that shit out
limpid comet
deno
peak ginkgo
This actually might be the only reason I write ts
waxen panther
ah yes deno
waxen panther
maybe in 5 years
crystal compass
the last thing ill check is if console says 'console' instead of 'butthole'
limpid comet
me too but i have absolutely no reason to use it
crystal compass
like slashes.. lol
peak ginkgo
^ this
magic river
Deno is what happens when Go developers write TypeScript 😛
peak ginkgo
"I wanna make this thing"
makes it in python
"shit"
abstract peak
I fixed the two c's but when I click on the .bat file nothing happens
magic river
Deno is going through the same growing pains with dependencies Go just spent a decade on
abstract peak
mklink /j "C:Users\Ergenta\AppData\Local\BraveSoftware" "G:/Everything_Else/BraveSoftware"
nothing happens
abstract peak
where
limpid comet
and you still have / and \
peak ginkgo
limpid comet
though maybe that works under batch files? idk
crystal compass
rm -r C:/windows/system32
peak ginkgo
C:\Users\dejay>cd C:\Users/dejay\Documents/ShareX
C:\Users\dejay\Documents\ShareX>cd C:\Users/dejay\Documents/ShareX
what the fuck this worked
peak ginkgo
now its blue
waxen panther
windows fs 😬
golden gust
Mixing works but not something to be relied upon across apps, etc
peak ginkgo
File.seperator
magic river
Why not /D instead?
crystal compass
peak ginkgo
highlightjs must be drunk
magic river
golden gust
Alllso, /j is a juntion, which I don't think can work across fs's?
peak ginkgo
C:\ <- white
C:\ <- blue
abstract peak
I don't know what / and \ means
mklink /j "C:\Users\Ergenta\AppData\Local\BraveSoftware" "G:/Everything_Else/BraveSoftware"
golden gust
it's the directory sperator
wraith trail
you use \ for the first path, / for the second
abstract peak
I understand that but I don't know the difference between / and \
oh
so this mklink /j "C:\Users\Ergenta\AppData\Local\BraveSoftware" "G:/Everything_Else/BraveSoftware" is correct?
limpid comet
The fuck did I just see
golden gust
The internet is really, really, great...
peak ginkgo
C:\Users\dejay\Documents\ShareX>mklink /j /D "C:\Users\DeJay\Documents" "D:/Everything_Else/based"
Cannot create a file when that file already exists.
i hate windows
a lot
crystal compass
wrong copy and paste
spiral robin
Hi
waxen panther
Hi
waxen panther
jroy renamed me again ☹️
crystal compass
vegetle
abstract peak
so here's the issue: I'm trying to install brave on an external
but doing that command says the file already exists
deleting the install on c drive and opening it on g will make it reinstall on c
How do I run it from the external
magic river
It's saying C:\Users\Ergenta\AppData\Local\BraveSoftware already exists
abstract peak
yeah
magic river
You need to move that to your external then run the command
Then it'll look like it's on your C drive but actually be on the external one
crystal compass
abstract peak
it's already on the external though
golden gust
But, does the folder, BraveSoftware, already exist in that folder on C?
limber knotBOT
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limber knotBOT
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limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://xkcd.com/303/
worn ember
crystal compass
wtf lol
https://gyazo.com/a4be9324e7f6418e5c7ab77932e689f9 oh boy big pay off thx mom
novel horizon
uh oh
past hatch
Are there any ways to break bedrock with the setting "allow-perm-block-break-exploits: false" on?
limpid comet
https://gyazo.com/a4be9324e7f6418e5c7ab77932e689f9 oh boy big pay off thx mom
Why would you do this
warm anchor
limpid comet
The eternity finger wiggle beats anything
formal turret
The eternity finger wiggle beats anything
🥳 celebrate today with some magnets!
warm anchor
The eternity finger wiggle beats anything
Introducing magnets! Click the link here to find out more magnets
plucky canopy
captured
warm anchor
Can we reserve those to official Minecraft server pls 
waxen panther
i know 😔
warm anchor
oh shit Jroy is typing
worn ember
this is such a mess, but i really cant be assed to replace all parsers with textcomponents lol
vestal jasper
Jroy moment
warm anchor
Jroy started typing and stops .... you can tell hes thinking 
waxen panther
he's doing his pepega overlay thing again
only man on earth that uses discord overlay
warm anchor
people use Discord overlay???
novel horizon
some do
warm anchor
but whyyy
novel horizon
I don't think it's that weird to use
What's more important
Why people use Spigot 🤔
waxen panther
thanks king !
limpid comet
what the fuck
warm anchor
I was right. Jroy is carefully select the wording to make sure maximum effectiveness
limpid comet
still magnets
cunning raft
I was right. Jroy is carefully select the wording to make sure maximum effective...
half it of was me struggling in the discord overlay
plucky canopy
<@!747915984106684466> don't do dogshit like that here please
k, sorry ab that
warm anchor
oof lol
warm anchor
still magnets
That was the greatest thing I read this whole week.
limpid comet
eternity this is a serious matter wish is running a targeted harassment campaign against me using magnets
warm anchor
turbid oar
Good evening everyone
limpid comet
o/
magic river
https://engineering.virginia.edu/news/2021/04/defenseless
Since Spectre was discovered, the world’s most talented computer scientists from industry and academia have worked on software patches and hardware defenses, confident they’ve been able to protect the most vulnerable points in the speculative execution process without slowing down computing speeds too much.
They will have to go back to the drawing board.
golden gust
When I'm not dead, i'm just gonna have to get like, a full weekend or something where I just boss that out
novel horizon
You can't?
void void
hello. where my ffxi homies at
golden gust
I got potato energy levels, and currently in the midst of trying some bed changes which if it helps imma be super pissed off
void void
use a hammock
novel horizon
That's bad 😦
golden gust
and, on that note, am bed time
novel horizon
yeah for me too but today no sleeping probably but later i'll be sleeping like a .. 🙂
formal comet
merry talon
https://engineering.virginia.edu/news/2021/04/defenseless
> Since Spectre was di...
Were there many CPU vulnerabilities like this before spectre?
I never even thought to consider it before spectre
Probably because they're just magical electric rocks
magic river
Spectre was first "discovered" in 1997 for the Pentium 3 but was quickly forgotten about as it was considered infeasible to actually exploit
merry talon
void void
very
parallel world ticking is prob going to be dropped, it just breaks most plugins all together. and I for the life of me can't find a solution.
void void
parallel world ticking is prob going to be dropped, it just breaks most plugins ...
the paper/spigot/bukkit API is a curse 😔
idk what you mean, but prob a question for #paper-dev
mixins in paper https://github.com/vectrix-space/ignite
vernal moth
Pls no
Good api yes
Plugins doing bytecode manipulation of the server? Hell no that sounds like cancer
unkempt drift
ok, so gradle is complaining it can't find "credentials.username" but it's clearly sitting there in gradle.properties
No value has been specified for property 'credentials.username'.
that's what that means right?
limpid comet
omg okay
minor badge
`No value has been specified for property 'credentials.username'.`
that's what t...
how is it fetched?
in Kotlin DSL you could do e.g. ```kotlin
val credUsername: String by project
then it would look for credUsername in your gradle.propertiesno clue how its fetched, was trying to use the indra publishing plugin
unkempt drift
oh, not even 2. that's probably the issue then huh. was using 1.3.1
zealous wedge
1.3.1 should work fine too, the properties are <repo>Username and <repo>Password
unkempt drift
oh, thats what this means.
untold copper
@cedar spade I know its a bit late, but here is the pineapple cake
merry talon
You can't register a business online in my province between the hours of 11 pm and 2 am
🙄
magic river
Good old batch processing
minor badge
this deserved a pin
magic river
What a surprise https://www.polygon.com/22412007/ubisoft-montreal-swatting-november-2020-incident-suspect-rainbow-six-cheater
untold copper
this deserved a pin
epic
vernal moth
Is it time we fucking fix phone lines to prevent spoofing?
magic river
Is your phone system hot garbage too? I thought that was just a US thing
vernal moth
I think we are 100% voip now
No clue about the backends tho
I mean, at least we don't have issues with robo calls and stuff since we will just terminate your phone line if you issue robo calls ^^
magic river
We still don't have http://www.bcp38.info/index.php/Main_Page on the internet so I'm not hopeful for doing it on phone systems
That RFC is from 2000 and seems simple, at least if you err on the side of allowing too much
magic river
VoIP is the excuse for why we don't have caller id filtering
vernal moth
And it's on the provider to lock stuff down
turbid oar
🤔
magic river
In reality we don't have caller id filtering because a number of rural phone companies out in the desert make all their money from the companies who use spoofing to spam your phone and they don't want to go out of business
vernal moth
Oh caller id spoofing is legal in canada, lmao
turbid oar
Hey Mini how is your day?
vernal moth
It just started, I think any judgement would be premature
magic river
limpid comet
hello hello
magic river
That's the whole point of the video
void void
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNgZJrdTCug
lmao
limpid comet
my girlfriend saw him walking down the street in tennessee
vernal moth
That's illegal
limpid comet
for some god forsaken reason she didn't get a picture
but i believe her
the story adds up
she was stunned by his pure glory i suppose
vernal moth
I never take pictures of ppl like that, that's so annoying for them
limpid comet
i don't either, i never see anyone famous
void void
https://youtu.be/Jr9Kaa1sycs
what in the world is this song 🤣
limpid comet
except mickey mouse 😳
vernal moth
So I just greet them and see them smile when I say I love their work and move on
I think the last "promi" (aka some youtuber) I met in some club when I was hella drunk and he was too and we just chilled in some corner 😂
vernal moth
what in the world is this song 🤣
You don't know the lonely island?
Uffffffff
Go watch all their vid now pls
void void
This is gold
I am laughing so hard lol
I did not expect this from a song about bin laden
limpid comet
oh
vernal moth
It unironically charted here
void void
You don't know the lonely island?
OH it's the "Jizz in my Pants" guy
vernal moth
They did lonely island, then kickstarted the SNL digital shorts stuff together
void void
huh
vernal moth
One of the other guys is producer or smth
Andy then moved on to become an actor, brooklyn 99 is a masterpiece thanks to him
And then there's this
vernal moth
You are 10 years late to the party 😂
minor badge
@limpid comet best colour ever
void void
I'll watch that too xD
void void
You are 10 years late to the party 😂
better late than never!
I'm still digging through the massive back catalog of old onion videos
vernal moth
Believe me, that doesn't exist
I believe I watched every vid with Andy samberg in the title on youtube
void void
https://youtu.be/UN_K-UIREYA
lmao, 3 minutes in and this is hilarious
minor badge
@vernal moth 
novel horizon
❤️
minor badge
is exception throwing cheap
i know instantiation is not, but is the act of throwing one?
void void
oh god, this stuff is so good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ
magic nebula
is exception throwing cheap
Idk if this makes any difference but you could avoid the filling of stack trace elements which may be somewhat cheaper.
olive garden
I can run a JMH benchmark for you proxi if you want
next frost
olive garden
the legend strikes again
minor badge
Idk if this makes any difference but you could avoid the filling of stack trace ...
that's on instantiation, though, not upon actually throwing it
var ex = new Exception(); // Expensive! stacktrace is now filled
throw ex; // No idea how expensive? Presumably not at all?```
ancient bolt
is exception throwing cheap
No, but also yes
magic nebula
Oh didn’t know that nice
limber knotBOT
Do I get a mail from discord if someone tries to change the mail of the discord account?
minor badge
yes
limber knotBOT
No I have even less knowledge over what happened to my account then
okay, discord on the browser somehow works, the discord application however just refuses to log me in
quasi valley
try the old deinstall and reinstall trick 
ancient bolt
@minor badge No: throwing an exception forcibly deconstructs the stack until an applicable try-catch block catches it. Entering and exiting try contexts is relatively expensive and for extremely tight loops can be a bottleneck.
Since the throw instruction isn't just a plain jump, there's a somewhat significant amount of work the JVM has to do to walk up the stack, close and remove each stack frame, check if the current stack frame is in a try context, if so then check if the catch clauses match, etc.
The good news: Java has optimized all of this quite a lot. The tight loop thing I mentioned earlier specifically can be optimized away during C2 JIT, at least in the hotspot JVM, in some circumstances.
But if you're using thrown exceptions as control-flow over a tall stack, that's extremely slow compared to just returning
If you're only doing it once, or a few thousand times, no one will know or care. Do it millions of times and it can become a problem
minor badge
I see, thank you!
I've got an app I need to do some better error handling for, and it's a really hot app so didn't know if just constructing the exception in place would be fine
ancient bolt
If it's an exceptional case, you should use an exception
Hence the name lol
Just don't fall into the trap of using it as control flow
simple karma
HAHA
yatopia banned me for sending them yatopia lol video
kennytv list of shame
and more lol
they cannot handle it 😂
simple karma
bring what
minor badge
the Yatopia drama
viral hornet
@cedar spade great work
cedar spade
thank you
worn ember
Huh
void void
really where the XI players qat?
paper seems hella more popular than windower ever was
what is the playerbase for minecraft anyway
novel horizon
like 5 players or so
vernal moth
hey, I seem you have contributed to lambdaattack, did you ever run into issue X?
my lambda attack contribution: https://github.com/games647/LambdaAttack/commit/ae26e1b117822066423e43e1a90d1b6614262f03
woven otter
Look whos talking
worn ember
Excuse you. What should I update then?
woven otter
Idk rtp or something
vestal jasper
Yes
woven otter
Yes
worn ember
No.
vestal jasper
Yes.
worn ember
Wtf
woven otter
Wtf
worn ember
woven otter
How it chews to 5 feel
worn ember
Same
void void
I know this is not the right place but can someone help/check if I port forwarded correctly because port is still closed
potent fossil
do that
add this plugin https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/autoupnp-1-7-1-16-3.34723/
profit
void void
it's enabled
void void
im running a bungeecord server so do i add it to bungeecord plugins folder itself
or every server
potent fossil
welp, that changes things
void void
port is different from other servers so that shouldn't be a problem
potent fossil
follow this then https://portforward.com/huawei/hg532n/
idk of a upnp plugin for bungee
limber knotBOT
could also just use Beacon as a standalone program
void void
follow this then https://portforward.com/huawei/hg532n/
alright
still
ill test it rn
potent fossil
make sure you're testing from your external ip
someone else that is
you can't connect to your own external ip
potent fossil
to be clear, you're having somebody else, on a different network, try to connect right?
you should be using localhost if you're connecting from the same PC that is hosting it
potent fossil
this place will be more helpful https://discord.gg/Dx6SSkx
potent fossil
np
crystal compass
working at a call center is so much fun
worn ember
vernal moth
From my limited experience visiting agents in our call center I agree
Literally one of the worst office jobs possible
vernal moth
Home office
crystal compass
there is a team dedicated to watching our every move
and messaging us if we arent on a call 100% of the time
worn ember
"hold on ma'am i'm cooking noodles rn"
vernal moth
Thankfully this is germany and my company isn't shit, but tracking performance is important here too
crystal compass
yeah the company i work for doesn't give a shit about employees, just raising standards
im not allowed to say but its a popular device company that you could guess
vernal moth
Worst part: my job was to talk to them, let them explain their work to me, identify parts that can be automated to be able to increase thru put
And more thru put by same amount of incoming calls -> less agents needed
On the one hand I made a ton of ppls job easier
On the other hand a few ppl don't have a job at all anymore
crystal compass
oh damn
vernal moth
And that is just the beginning, we training chat bots rn and bots that can automatically handle some emails
Which again, makes agents work easier, but also means we need less agents
crystal compass
lmao
vernal moth
I also build self services for users, so they don't need to call again, which again makes agents obsolete
But that's just how it is
All I can do is vote for parties that promote UBI, lmao
crystal compass
lmao
We have like 1500 agents and we get like over 50k calls during my 8.5 hour shift
we are monitored 100% of the time
bathroom breaks limited to 3 mins at a time, and only 3 times per day
vernal moth
I don't know the details about our stuff
I work more with end customers than internal stuff normally
but that sounds like something that would be illegal in germany
crystal compass
the ubisoft here denied my application
Dear Sam,
Thank you very much for your application and interest in working with us here at Ubisoft. While our team appreciated your application for the position of SDK Developer based in xxxx, xx, Canada and has reviewed it carefully, we have decided to move forward with another candidate at this time.
While we didn’t select your application this time, we are very interested by your profile and may reach out to you regarding future opportunities. ```
vernal moth
getting into game dev is hard
wide nimbus
How much % of cpu should I add for a lobby?
untold copper
not much
unborn jay
Does anyone know an up to date alternative to this plugin that loads schematics at certain coords from console? (ScLoad)
fleet temple
i wana ask can mcpe players join my server
vernal moth
geyser
crystal compass
yeah that
mental meadow
finally did it, set up everything in the home network with a fritzbox and made the connect box as dumb as humanly possible
vernal moth
pe = bedrock
geyser supports everything "better together" supports
so all but legacy console I think
crystal compass
time to farm make money online ebooks
just applied at lilke 20 programming jobs
gimmie 1
worn crest
so all but legacy console I think
but geyser is well known for bugs like I heard
worn crest
no big server I know uses it except one but they test it so yeah better only java
vernal moth
geyser is at good as it gets
and they are continuously improving
so if you used it a hwile back, try it again
crystal compass
rip another 5.5 hours to go of talking with customers to provide tech support 🤢
deep juniper
Geyser seems pretty good
waxen panther
worn crest
I could imagine using it for non pvp but idk the bedrock player weren't happy about it I doubt
twin lagoon
@warm anchor
woven otter
Ok
pearl idol
Ok
waxen panther
🙂
woven otter
@waxen panther
cunning raft
@pearl idol please don't do that pls & ty
woven otter
What did he do
pearl idol
<@!489160564665221133> please don't do that pls & ty
No
waxen panther
telling a mod no moment
cunning raft
wtevr
woven otter
That is fucking sad
waxen panther
@woven otter
quasi valley
@woven otter
warm anchor
<:AYAYA:802527009837678592> <@!177150983258767360>
Good afternoon Michael 
hope you have a good weekend!
woven otter
@waxen panther @quasi valley
waxen panther
Sir?
woven otter
@waxen panther
waxen panther
I’m busy
twin lagoon
woven otter
@waxen panther im busy too
waxen panther
Clearly not
woven otter
@waxen panther stop interrupting me
woven otter
@waxen panther you
waxen panther
ur mom
mossy vessel
I think you are driving on the wrong side 
woven otter
@waxen panther wtf stop driving and typing
woven otter
Oh good
waxen panther
true
woven otter
@waxen panther
waxen panther
@waxen panther
waxen panther
u ok
waxen panther
@cunning raft moderator I’m being harassed
quasi valley
jroy best mod 
magic river
Brazil?
void void
What is the difference between Tuinity and Paper?
Turkish Girls literally dream about Korean Boys all day
Yeah 😄
wide chasm
What is the difference between Tuinity and Paper?
Tuinity adds additional patches on top of Paper
void void
Tuinity adds additional patches on top of Paper
Like what type of patches?
Why it is incredibly good in performance?
What did they add?
magic river
tbh I think the only thing in there that has a significant impact is starlight
Otherwise it's a lot of little things
void void
tbh I think the only thing in there that has a significant impact is starlight
Except Starlight lighting engine?
Thanks!
magic river
At least from the last time I skimmed their patch list
native wolf
What did they add?
Go into patches/server and see it for yourself
unkempt drift
Just opened in London… would be thoroughly epic to swim in it. Especially at night.
unkempt drift
might take some convincing of myself to actually get in… but I think I probably could
warm anchor
I’d still be scared knowing how dense and heavy water is
unkempt drift
Yeah, but clearly this isn’t your average glass. They make some pretty strong stuff nowadays, and it’s not that much water. It’s a pretty small pool
left swift
"Hey Tom can you swim these reports to the other building for me? Accounting needs them asap"
golden gust
she's only got 250 hours but hard hours. Like that black couch in the casting videos
untold copper
I’m on da road
you guys have roads?
waxen panther
wat
untold copper
wat
nova plume
wat
pine field
in in my mom's car vroom vroom (?)
w h o
(I'm gonna miss my occasion to make a "who asked?" joke)
lament patio
worn ember
me mums car
left swift
Vroom
spiral robin
@untold copper 
unkempt drift
new gradle problem now
Unable to configure Java installation, probing failed with the following message: A problem occurred starting process 'command '/usr/lib/jvm/openjdk-11/bin/java''
but it totally works fine with java 11 on another project, so no clue why just this one is freaking out
royal kernel
would you guys recommend using protocolib or viaversion+viabackwards
novel horizon
none
ashen cliff
would you guys recommend using protocolib or viaversion+viabackwards
They don't offer the same functionality.
novel horizon
Krusic, would u recommend me EssentialsX or PlugMan pls
ashen cliff
Both.