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left swift
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Intercontinental soup parties?

mental meadow
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I want to replace that stupid Connectbox i got from them with a Fritzbox. Easier said than done, i got Coax, so i thought yeah i might be able to just replace the stupid part with a coax fritz box. No, you have to use their box as a modem, fuck it, okay
But no, even better, one of the reason I want a Fritzbox is for proper VoIP, but fuck you, no that's not happening when using their modem because they are too fucking useless

ashen cliff
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@vale rune another satisfied IPKO customer.

void void
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is there a server thing where i can instal mods and plugin only

mental meadow
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Na, Magenta Austria

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But i guess they're all the same

worn yacht
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whats the difference between waterfall and paper?

cunning raft
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waterfall is a bungeecord fork

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paper is a spigot fork

worn yacht
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idk the difference

wraith trail
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One is a proxy, the other is a server.

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So to use waterfall, you need to have other servers as well while paper can be used independently

worn yacht
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ah

mental meadow
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A proxy is in front of one or multiple servers to allow players to switch between them and other stuff

worn yacht
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noice

void void
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is spongeforge for plugins

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or is it just a mod

wraith trail
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It's for sponge plugins, not bukkit plugins.

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But sponge plugins and forge mods can run at the same time sanely, unlike implementations that attempt to do the same for bukkit

vernal moth
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Don't you have Routerfreiheit in austria aurora?

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But coax sucks anyways

minor badge
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Sponge was made with data driven features, and therefore arbitrary modifications in mind

void void
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so spongeforge is a plugin for forge servers

minor badge
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pretty much

void void
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o

minor badge
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sponge is a mod which can have plugins and even interact with the mods

void void
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but isnt for 1.16.5

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hm

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nvm than

minor badge
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I dunno if SpongeForge is updated yet, but I know Vanilla is at 1.16.5 and snapshots

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@zealous wedge ?

mental meadow
waxen panther
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forge isnt ready yeah

vernal moth
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In germany, an ips needs to give you the credentials to their network so you can use any device you want to access dsl and voip

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But i know there were issues with coax here too

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I just go with an isp that gives my a Fritzbox, then disable it because I don't care about any of it and just use my ubiquity stuff 😂

mental meadow
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Ubiquity eww

void void
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so am on 1.16.5 wil 1.16.4 mods stil work on 1.16.5 xd

mental meadow
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Issue is with Coax you have to use their box as a modem because coax

mossy vessel
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So wait, what do you actually use Coax for?

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I thought that is for this ancient "television" people talk about

vernal moth
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It's also for crappy internet connections

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Ppl call it "kabel" in germany

cunning raft
mental meadow
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Na, coax is fine for that

vernal moth
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Coax is really terrible for internet because it's a shared medium

cunning raft
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i would pretty confidently say 90% of america uses coax for internet

vernal moth
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You share your bandwidth with the whole street basically

cunning raft
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yeah p much

vernal moth
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Which is why coax ppl always cry for node splits, which then means less ppl use your node, so more bandwidth for you

mossy vessel
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Oic, I have some old cables like that laying around but that's it. I don't have any in use atm

lean kiln
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thanks you @quasi valley

quasi valley
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no, thanks you

lean kiln
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ok

left swift
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No

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Thanking you

vernal moth
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But coax is basically collapsing on Saturday evenings when everybody gets those juice 4k hdr netflix streams on

mossy vessel
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As they are supposed to COOLFLOOSHDANCE

lean kiln
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i have coax and 950ish down

vernal moth
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Max

lean kiln
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yeah

void void
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ayo paper servers are smooth

vernal moth
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Depending on the load and the amount of neighbors you have that have coax, it's impossible to reach that

void void
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droped 54 frames but nice

lean kiln
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i can supply my own modem and stuff though im not locked into renting from the isp

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own modem and router

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in my neighborhood its fine

vernal moth
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That's a right here in germany

lean kiln
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i get max speed 24/7

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I thought you implied you couldnt earlier

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i think i misread

mossy vessel
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Yeah, we have the "right" to choose our own router.

cunning raft
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na internet lulw

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im at the end of a very small street tho so it pretty much stays like this all the time

vernal moth
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I am to cheap to buy fast internet

left swift
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How much do they charge you for that jroy

cunning raft
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oh god i think its like fucking 80

left swift
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Lmao

mental meadow
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Good thing is that coax is only down to the basement, and most of the neighbors here are very old people

vernal moth
left swift
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I'm lucky we have an actually good isp in my area, good speeds, good equipment and competent techs

mossy vessel
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At home I have like 80/30

left swift
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They even upgraded my 200/20 to 1gb/100 for free

vernal moth
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Oh and the 8ms ping are on wifi, my pc is one or two ms faster

cunning raft
lean kiln
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wtf

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you pay 80 for that

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i pay 100 for my gigabit

left swift
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Same

vernal moth
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I pay 35 for my 100k

cunning raft
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when i was paying for 60/10 i got like 50/5

mental meadow
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I pay 40€ for 250/50 and that's what I get

vernal moth
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I have fiber in my basement, but why would I bother with gigabit?

quasi valley
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download that 8k adult video?

vernal moth
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100k is plenty fast for that

quasi valley
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download 3 8k adult videos at the same time???

vernal moth
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I only have two eyes tho

quasi valley
vernal moth
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Side note, VR porn is weird, don't ask me how I know

mossy vessel
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8k is what I want

left swift
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All guys have 3 eyes mini

supple lynx
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Yeah, it's pretty bad in a lot of the US. At my parents there's 500 down, but only 24 up and it's coax. It's like $80 or more - very overpriced.
Here at my place, it's fiber and it's $65 for 1000/250 and it's the city's own ISP.

untold meadow
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updating ubuntu reset my terminal theme and now i can't remember which light theme i had

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this is the pain of using light themes is that they are so under appreciated that nobody cares about them

ashen cliff
mental meadow
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https://youtu.be/wn5GOZXg4_I
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lethal locust
native wolf
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ping 6 😮

lethal locust
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yeah, it's kinda good

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I mean god

worn ember
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@ashen cliff do you know Daisy?

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Daisy MeRollin

ashen cliff
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Bruh.

worn ember
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they hating

ashen cliff
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Yet, no one asked. kekwhyper

upbeat falconBOT
waxen panther
worn ember
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square watermalone

void void
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wait

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just found that

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CraftBukkit is a Minecraft fork

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Spigot is a CraftBukkit fork

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Paper is a Spigot fork

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Tuinity is a Paper fork

worn ember
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welcome to forkception

void void
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Purpur is a Tuinity fork

native wolf
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Airplane*

worn ember
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pretty sure purpur is a paper fork

native wolf
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technically it is

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but it applies Tuinity and Airplane patches on top

waxen panther
worn ember
left swift
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@worn ember did you play with candice last night

native wolf
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Billy is doing it like that so he can update upstream faster

worn ember
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candice deeznuts?

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yes

left swift
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Candice mama

worn ember
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go look in the mirror and contemplate your life choices

left swift
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No u

worn ember
left swift
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U think ur so smart huh ded

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If u so smart tell me Obama's last name PokiGun

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There needs to be a discord bot that posts the medieval torture device vibrator ads from Twitter into a channel

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Only then can we advance as humans

left swift
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No its Obama mama

wide chasm
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The best code is written when sleeping 🙂

void void
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Is there like a friend plugin which makes it so that if a player adds another player as a friend they won't be able to friendly fire until one of them removes the other one as a friend? Or something like that it doesn't have to be called "Friends"

vernal moth
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Cries in 8 hour work days + 6 hour freetime dev stuff for paper 😂

warm anchor
void void
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so...

native wolf
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yeah, it's for updating upstream faster

void void
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CraftBukkit is a Minecraft fork
Spigot is a CraftBukkit fork
Paper is a Spigot fork
Tuinity is a Paper fork
Airplane is a Tuinity fork
Purpur is an Airplane fork

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is this true?

native wolf
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yeah

vernal moth
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With the added fun that spigotmc pty ltd both maintains spigot and craftbukkit, so they are forking themselves for reasons nobody knows

worn ember
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legacy reasons obviously

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what if 2 people are still using craftbukkit

mossy vessel
void void
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and Yatopia is a Purpur fork

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Titanium is a Yatopia fork

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oh my god

warm anchor
void void
warm anchor
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A cultured person I see.

void void
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so... because Yatopia is terrible

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Titanium is bad too, am I right?

vernal moth
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Never heard of that before

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But by definition, yes

void void
vernal moth
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Ehm I mean

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Drop table hosting

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Oh god it's cursed

left swift
vernal moth
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Pushes worlds on their own thread, throws some synchronized keywords around and then prays for the best 😂

left swift
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Guess it does say highly experimental PEPW

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Highly experimental fork of a highly experimental fork

vernal moth
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I just turned on my PC for the first time in over a week 😮

left swift
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Baby steps mini

worn ember
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am reading mixin docs and my head is gonna explode lol

ashen cliff
left swift
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Authme PEPW

worn ember
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people prefer to join a discord and type a stupid question than to spend that time opening and reading the wiki

warm anchor
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For this I want my support

worn ember
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I paid nothing for this plugin so i'm entitled to 1on1 support!!

warm anchor
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Hey ded can I discord call you for some question on how to config my rtp plugin?

left swift
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I demand a refund and discount code next time I come to authme otherwise I'll post this on Facebook and get my bingo gals to post fake stories too

ashen cliff
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Gabe is dead 24/7, MrIvanPlays joined and got yetted instantly since he had no idea how DBs work. kekwhyper

warm anchor
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Yeah I need it now or I leave you a 1 star review PepeLa

worn ember
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for you i would eternity omegalol

waxen panther
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😳

left swift
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Discord call him for rtp support for a different rtp plugin

warm anchor
worn ember
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lmao

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wouldnt be the first

astral knot
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(This is something applicable to an upcoming project of mine)

What is one ideal use case for every server implementation/proxy?
I.e. a situation where, at present, it would be reasonable to use each project.

1. Hmod
2. Bukkit
3. Spigot
4. Paper
5. Purpur
6. Tunity
7. Yatopia
8. CatServer
9. TacoSpigot
10. Mohist
11. Sponge

12. FlyingSquid
13. Feather

14. Phantom
15. Velocity
16. Waterfall
17. BungeeCord

18. GeyserMC
19. Nukkit

(Also, did I miss any major projects?)

wild escarp
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yatopia kekw

worn ember
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aint nobody gonna type that out

left swift
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Tf is flyingsquid and feather

astral knot
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Those are the two biggest non-java implementations

left swift
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Bedrock

astral knot
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ah

quasi valley
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most modern are Velocity and Sponge

worn ember
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ur face is bedrock

warm anchor
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Remove number 7 while you are at it

left swift
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Hmod

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Lol

astral knot
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was going to come up with a meme use case for 7

warm anchor
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Oh then keep it PepeLa

vernal moth
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forgot canarymod

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and the fork of that neptun or smth?

left swift
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If you wanna see how fast you can crash a node on a summerhost, use yatopia

astral knot
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Is there any use for it though? Isn't canary around the same time as bukkit?

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only kept hmod in case someone wanted to run an alpha server

vernal moth
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oh I read that wrong

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I though you wanted to collect all projects

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because most of your list contains useless stuff, lmao

astral knot
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nope; just the projects that someone might use in any conceivable circumstances

untold meadow
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minestom erasure

worn ember
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guys i did the funni!!

left swift
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Wheres concrete

astral knot
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Isn't minestorm a java implementation?

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Wouldn't sponge be the main non-bukkit java implementation?

worn ember
vernal moth
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different goals

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sponge doesnt sees much use anyways

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but sponge is mostly for pokemon servers

worn ember
astral knot
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ah... so what exactly is minestorm's goal?

worn ember
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reduced to pokemon servers

left swift
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Sponge is all dried up one would say

vernal moth
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minestom is like a performance oriented clean room impl

astral knot
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ah

worn ember
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i think once its actually stable its gonna pick up a lot more speed (at least i hope so)

vernal moth
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trying to split up the worlds onto different threads more effectively

left swift
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Be a sponge only dev ded

astral knot
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So something like this?

1. Hmod
2. Bukkit
3. Spigot
4. Paper
5. Purpur
6. Tunity
7. Yatopia
8. CatServer
9. TacoSpigot
10. Mohist
11. Sponge
12. MineStorm

13. FlyingSquid
14. Feather

15. Phantom
16. Velocity
17. Waterfall
18. BungeeCord

19. GeyserMC
20. Nukkit
worn ember
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ive considered it, but doing cross platform seems like a better option

left swift
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Port prism to sponge ded

worn ember
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tf is prism

left swift
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The better coreprotect

worn ember
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oh right

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should be doable tbh

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i havent messed much with sponge's api tho, well not in V8 at least

astral knot
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What's the main differences r/ tunity vs purpur again?

quasi valley
worn ember
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people pr to spigot?

quasi valley
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the number is the bukkit api repo*

worn ember
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probably only bugs discovered when using paper and turn out to be upstream bugs lol

void void
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So... PaperMC, Tuinity, Airplane and Purpur forks are good forks

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and Yatopia is absolute hell

worn ember
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amazing what multiple people can do as opposed to one guy right

void void
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am I correct?

astral knot
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pretty much, but what are the differences in use cases between the good forks?

unkempt drift
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yaaaaatopia! Someone needs to make a Yatopia jingle. It’s got a very jingle-able name

void void
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I'm using Tuinity, very lazy to update to Purpur

vernal moth
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YAAAH topia its called MM

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the doctor said so

worn ember
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oh ya toptia uh ah yatopia go brr crack burns down and goes bye bye

unkempt drift
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And it’s not tuinity, it’s 2 IN I T

vernal moth
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yes

worn ember
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tu et vous?

left swift
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En vous

void void
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Oh des français 😮

worn ember
worn ember
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Here's a rule
And here's 5 pages of exceptions to said rule

left swift
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C'est la vie

void void
worn ember
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who's Clair and why is she oui

void void
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the meme is due to the voice that this gentleman pronounces this sentence

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and especially because it is a report of which he does not master the subject

void void
worn ember
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translation 😉 but yeah i understood

left swift
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EU memes eeveesleep

astral knot
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1. Vanilla *Small servers with one or two players?*
2. Hmod *Alpha Servers*
3. Bukkit *Beta Servers*
4. Spigot *Snapshot servers? Servers that want dupes?*
5. Paper *Normal servers?*
6. Tunity *Servers overly worried about performance?*
7. Purpur *Servers that want more configuration?*
8. Yatopia *Unstable dev servers?*
9. TacoSpigot *Servers dead-set on running outdated?*
10. Forge Multiplayer *Modded multiplayer servers*
11. Mohist *Unstable multiplayer servers?*
12. CatServer *Somehow different from mohist*?
13. Sponge *Servers who are religiously against breaching the dcma?*
14. MineStorm *Servers that are extremely paranoid about performance, and have limited features?*

15. FlyingSquid *People that hate java, and would prefer would prefer node.js, even if it inhibits core gameplay?*
16. Feather *People that hate java, and would prefer would prefer Rust, even if it inhibits core gameplay?*

17. Phantom *Coming soon signs and/or tombstones*
18. Velocity *People that want to run a network*
19. Waterfall *People that want to run a network using bungee plugins*
20. BungeeCord *People who want faster releases (i.e. snapshot servers?)*

21. GeyserMC *People who want to make bedrock/java servers*
22. Nukkit *People who really want to make servers with bedrock for some reason*
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Is that more or less accurate?

warm anchor
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Wouldn’t recommend to sum up a project with half a sentence but you do you

left swift
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Is mohist a chinese fork too?

untold copper
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I make plane

worn ember
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we need at least 5 pages per impl

worn ember
untold copper
left swift
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How would u know u havent flown it yet

worn ember
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throw it from the 1st floor to give it more speed to ramp up

untold copper
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it didn't fly

warm anchor
worn ember
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then its not a plane

untold copper
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:c

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its a plane

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but it doesn't fly

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what does that make it

worn ember
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a ground

wraith trail
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1. Vanilla *Small servers with one or two players, people who don't know there are alternatives or enjoy bugs/game mechanics*
2. Hmod *Alpha Servers*
3. CraftBukkit *People who don't know better/want older servers w/ bukkit mods*
4. Spigot *Servers that want dupes, people who don't know alternaitves exist* - spigot does not do public snapshots.
5. Paper *Normal servers?*
6. Tuinity *Servers wanting more than paper currently offers* - wouldn't say overly concerned
7. Purpur *Servers that want more configuration?*
8. Yatopia *People who think more = better*
9. TacoSpigot *Servers dead-set on running outdated?*
10. Forge Multiplayer *Modded multiplayer servers*
11. Mohist *Unstable multiplayer servers?*
12. CatServer *Somehow different from mohist*?
13. Sponge *people who want a more modern api/want to run plugins and mods together in a sane way*
14. MineStorm *Development/fun*

15. FlyingSquid *People that hate java, and would prefer would prefer node.js, even if it inhibits core gameplay?* no idea what this is
16. Feather *Development/testing/fun. No one is running an actual server of this.*

17. Phantom *Coming soon signs and/or tombstones*
18. Velocity *People that want to run a network*
19. Waterfall *People that want to run a network using bungee plugins*
20. BungeeCord *People who want faster releases (i.e. snapshot servers?)* - no snapshots here either.

21. GeyserMC *People who want to make bedrock/java servers*
22. Nukkit *People who really want to make servers with bedrock for some reason*

made a couple edits

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spigot does not do snapshots publicly, and bukkit is just an api

warm anchor
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If it can’t fly it’s not a plane
So if ded’s joke ain’t funny then it’s not a joke either? PepeLa

untold copper
worn ember
unkempt drift
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Wow. Sulu is letting everyone know the official paper team opinion and stance on every server option.

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Good to know

worn ember
quasi valley
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time to cancel the paper team

wraith trail
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smh

worn ember
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about time

untold copper
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lol

worn ember
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my pitchfork business will be booming once more

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vibranium pitchfork to pierce even the thicc skin of sulu

warm anchor
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Drama is good for Minecraft. It’s the powerhouse of development krappa

untold copper
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if its not a plane its a boat

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pretty sure it'll float

worn ember
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yes, oil floats

unkempt drift
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“Drama is the powerhouse of development”. I like that 😛

unkempt drift
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Should be spigots official motto

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or kangarko

untold copper
left swift
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The powerhouse is the cell of the mitochondria

unkempt drift
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No, you said it wrong

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It’s “the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell”

untold copper
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mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

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yes

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that

worn ember
untold copper
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smh

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bai

left swift
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Wow

worn ember
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get rekt by physics

woven otter
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steel is also heavier than feathers

unkempt drift
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Yes, 1 pound of steel > 1 pound of feathers. 🙂

left swift
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Papermc2.0 general chat needs those stupid twitter flags too? Everyone make sure you flag ur messages now. /srs

fleet temple
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is there a way tat i can see server tps

worn ember
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🇧🇪

left swift
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Turn the server on

fleet temple
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its on

worn ember
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/tps

fleet temple
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o

left swift
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Let me know when ur ready for step 2

cunning raft
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🇨🇳

fleet temple
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i wana ask is leaking ipv4 address safe cuz my friend said its not safe

woven otter
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disgusting jroy is blue

left swift
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What ipv4 address

fleet temple
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the ip where u use to conenct to your paper server

left swift
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If u dont leak it how are people going to join

fleet temple
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so its safe?

swift root
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Reverse proxy !

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Regular proxy!

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PROXI!!!

left swift
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Reverse osmosis proxy

golden gust
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mfw waterfall often supports new versions of MC before bungee does these days

woven otter
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good job

vernal moth
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kekw

unkempt drift
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Mini is fake. Has no IP

worn ember
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hacked

unkempt drift
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No IP = not real

worn ember
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APIPA

left swift
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Having no ip means ur a vampire, it's the 2nd way to tell after doing the mirror trick

worn ember
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we had one of our laptops put in an apipa thats outside of its own network lol

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so that was fun to figure out

woven otter
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ok

unkempt drift
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Grrr. Brains are so dumb

woven otter
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what

unkempt drift
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Nothing in that video is moving

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And your brain clearly things something is.

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Well, the arrow is moving, but not the circle or the lines

woven otter
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then again brains have figured out how to trick themselves so that's pretty smart

unkempt drift
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That’s true

worn ember
unkempt drift
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implying I have more than 1 brain

worn ember
left swift
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Just iron out brains so they're nice and smooth

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And a little crispy

worn ember
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we should get rid of the guys without mana instead

left swift
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Why would u wanna get rid of duck

woven otter
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shut

worn ember
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duck is cool

woven otter
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rude

left swift
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Ded is so anti duck now

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Smh

woven otter
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anatidaephobe

worn ember
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nya

woven otter
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being rude to ducks should be a ZTI

twin lagoon
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@warm anchor AYAYA

left swift
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Zucchini time intellect

left swift
limber knotBOT
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pokimane-wink-pointing-cute-pretty-gif

unkempt drift
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Is nomanasendhelp the guy who mentions poki all the time

left swift
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Oh no robo is back

limber knotBOT
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I see that it's still downhill here

woven otter
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yes discord gif thing

left swift
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Mtm vs. Mwm who wins

woven otter
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irc is dum. i win

left swift
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10 points to duck

limber knotBOT
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<insert dumcord nitro codes here>

left swift
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Robo is giving away free niteo?

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Nitro

limber knotBOT
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on IRC yes

left swift
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That's pretty omegapoggers

limber knotBOT
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society is collapsing because people speak in twitch emotes still

left swift
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Nah theres a few other reasons

limber knotBOT
#

of course

left swift
#

Like irc

limber knotBOT
#

yes, people not using IRC is also a contributor

waxen panther
#

no

left swift
#

The world will become one again once brocc becomes very helpful again

waxen panther
#

i agree Sadge

limber knotBOT
#

will only happen when he joins IRC for good

waxen panther
#

@cunning raft make me helpful

#

i think i would implode if i opened an irc client

limber knotBOT
#

perhaps that's for the best

waxen panther
#

true

cunning raft
#

sorry i am busy tight now cant check discord!

warm anchor
waxen panther
#

@cunning raft ok take your time man grinning emoji !

quasi valley
#

check irc then?

cunning raft
#

my keyboard broke i cannot type

waxen panther
#

seems to be working! 😀

#

maybe it's fixed .

quasi valley
#

alright have a nice day

#

@cunning raft what mod?

cunning raft
cunning raft
waxen panther
#

sad!

woven otter
limber knotBOT
#

brocc is never helpful cuz he never b on irc

#

simple

twin lagoon
#

irc pepe_sleep

limber knotBOT
#

dumcord <emoji here>

twin lagoon
#

can't even use custom emotes omegachair

sick tendon
#

hes_right kinda cringe

#

imagine not using emotes

twin lagoon
waxen panther
woven otter
#

imagine not paying for ability to use emojis from other servers everywhere

warm anchor
#

Imagine being a duck

quasi valley
#

I don't thanks to some nice people kappa

woven otter
#

👀

worn ember
#

oh thats me

#

i blew my entire budget on cat pics this month tho

#

me looking for classes in intellij using ctrl+shift+f:
Intellij: Best i can do is give you logs where this class is mentioned

#

is there some shortcut to find classes globablly? (libs included)

left swift
worn ember
quasi valley
#

or double shift to get to that window in general

left swift
#

No problem anytime ded

void void
#

happy ramadan my friends

warm anchor
#

It’s not a holiday?? rieBigBrainThinking

void void
#

nope

cedar spade
#

What's a holiday

void void
#

for a whole month, muslims doesn't eat until a specific hour

#

what was it in english

left swift
#

Fasting

void void
#

yeah

#

Fasting

#

from Sahur to Iftar

void void
#

ramadan holiday

void void
#

oh i don't have nitro 😛

spiral robin
#

oh

waxen panther
vestal jasper
#

You also don't have the emote to begin with

#

You need to be in a server that has it to use it

shell vine
void void
vestal jasper
worn ember
#

ban the weebs

void void
vestal jasper
waxen panther
#

Ban ded tbh

worn ember
#

gang up as much as you want, weebs cant hurt me

void void
#

ban the existence of the dreadness of depression and anxiety

waxen panther
#

Relegate ded to configurate sponge

worn ember
#

nono its mixins now

#

i'm over configurate

void void
warm anchor
cedar spade
#

I don't get it

#

I thought holiday was a generic term

woven otter
#

reminds me of that song by s3rl

granite axle
#

whats the name of the doctor guy everyone hires on fiverr

ashen cliff
#

VoiceoverPete

quasi valley
#

he's a real chad

worn ember
#

forgot how toxic forge discord was lmao

#

guud stuff

quasi valley
#

modding discords kappa

woven otter
#

forge staff is indeed toxic. had to learn it the hard way

worn ember
#

but then the paper staff is something else too

#

plz no ban

woven otter
#

yeah like stef

#

stef is the worst

minor badge
#

@woven otter

#

quacc

woven otter
#

@minor badge

novel horizon
#

yeah they dont even install your server

#

bad staff 😠

wide chasm
golden gust
#

.bh

woven otter
#

you are too weak to carry it

#

runs

golden gust
#

KOROBI, WE GON HAB ISSUES

woven otter
#

it's all kashike

potent fossil
#

Always has been

zinc moss
#

sheep know that they love he a felon, caught charges cause they liked telling

woven otter
#

you are weird

turbid oar
#

sigh wtf out of random when I woke up at 12am someone boost our server 18 boosts 🤔

#

idk what to think

woven otter
#

why are you referring to yourself in third person

turbid oar
twin lagoon
#

the sheep guy

woven otter
#

the sheep guy

worn ember
#

Yes

waxen panther
#

@woven otter

woven otter
#

@waxen panther

novel horizon
#

@novel horizon

untold copper
#

@untold copper

#

@novel horizon I released v2 of my modpack, can you suggest some mods?

novel horizon
#

🤔 idk

untold copper
#

cmon, any mods

#

There are only like 70 till now

potent fossil
#

"my" modpack

"suggest me mods to put in it"

untold copper
#

well i uh made the modpack

#

so

#

whatever

formal turret
#

add as many mods as you can

untold copper
#

why tho

potent fossil
#

yeah snoopa you're not smelling what im stepping in so that's fine

#

whatever

formal turret
#

the bigger the pack the better it is

twin lagoon
#

HELLO @potent fossil

untold copper
#

not necessarily

potent fossil
#

💋 @twin lagoon hello babe

twin lagoon
potent fossil
untold copper
#

its doing the thing again where if you hover on it and then not hover it doesn't dissapear

#

dont wanna ruin 14 days uptime smh

novel horizon
#

I'm gonna later play some light modded server ^^

#

with few mods

#

I hope

#

last time it was like that and suddenly 80 mods or smth

formal turret
#

i installed enigmatica 6 because i wanted a giant modpack to play

untold copper
#

giant modpacks take so long to load tho lmao

formal turret
#

eh i think it takes me like 5 minutes to load it

woven otter
#

there have been modpacks that take 30mins + to load but then again that's like on the edge of what my laptop can run lel

worn ember
potent fossil
#

i just thought it was funny

worn ember
#

yes

#

very funny simple, i'm proud of you

potent fossil
#

but it's not funny anymore

worn ember
#

wow ok hater

potent fossil
woven otter
#

pow pow

worn ember
#

these are my kinda shots

potent fossil
#

yeah blowjob shots

#

had 8 of those on my 21st birthday

worn ember
#

excuse me what

potent fossil
#

that's what they're called

woven otter
#

excuse me what

worn ember
#

this is a christian server sir

potent fossil
#

im not even fucking with you even a little bit

#

that's what they're called

#

And you're supposed to drink it like that too

woven otter
untold copper
#

All ME Drives are equal, but some are more equal than others

#

@worn ember what you put in these slots?

waxen panther
#

wow so epic 😀

untold copper
#

hai brocc

#

how you

potent fossil
#

SO epic

woven otter
#

😀

worn ember
#

speed upgrades

potent fossil
#

😃

untold copper
worn ember
#

do i look like google to you?

#

ion kno

untold copper
#

sorry lol

worn ember
potent fossil
#

tHe SpOtiFy ApPlIcAtIoN iS nOt ReSpOnDiNg

#

fuck off spotify

untold copper
#

epic, thanks ded

woven otter
#

epic, thanks ded

worn ember
olive marlin
#

@untold copper speed upgrades, but some devices also accept stack upgrades and crafting upgrade...
Best to see usages on the upgrade blank card.

plucky canopy
#

All my parts arrive today except the motherboard

#

Which arrives tomorrow

#

Wack, almost got lucky

limber knotBOT
#

I don't get why you wouldn't buy a ryzen thonk

cunning raft
#

can you even get them

#

isn't there a shortage

formal turret
#

i think for the high end ones

plucky canopy
#

I got Intel bc Intel has p good inboard graphics

#

GPUs don't exist rn

limber knotBOT
#

why would you need that? thonk

plucky canopy
#

Bc GPU prices are actually insane

#

And buying one rn is insane as well

#

So I'm gonna build Intel til I get one

limber knotBOT
#

just use an old one or buy one at msrp ¯_(ツ)_/¯

plucky canopy
#

You can't "just buy one at msrp"

#

Even old ones are expensive

twin lagoon
#

@vestal jasper uwu

vestal jasper
#

Hi

limber knotBOT
#

well I kinda did 👀

plucky canopy
#

All I cared ab is cores anyway

limber knotBOT
#

got a 3070 for 700€ ;D

plucky canopy
#

But recently?

limber knotBOT
#

yes, last week

plucky canopy
#

Oh wait

#

Wait

#

700?

limber knotBOT
#

bought a pre-build and sold everything but the video card

#

or well, technically I traded it for another RTX3070 + money as that was easier than swapping teh cards

twin lagoon
#

looks like my 3080 pre-order was a good idea then a few months ago PepeLa

limber knotBOT
#

of course you need to find someone who is willing to buy that hardware right now, I had the luck that a friend of mine wanted to upgrade their stuff who scored an rtx3070 last month

#

(and they got theirs froms a guy who got an rtx3080 or something and sold their rtx3070 for the price they paid)

olive marlin
#

I didn't want to deal with that and for now I just bought RX550 which was the best card that wasn't overpriced here at the time. I'll just sell it when I'll get bottlenecked and better cards will be available at a reasonable price.

twin lagoon
#

i had ordered a 3080 ventus an hour after release or so

#

got it a month later luckily

#

i thought i was paying a high price for it at launch already but now it doesn't seem too bad KEKWHYPER

wide hazel
twin lagoon
mental meadow
#

Aaah
New APs really nice
Over wifi with a 250/50 connection

magic river
#

Wireless:

#

Wired:

#

It's supposed to be 200/20

twin lagoon
#

phoenix616 you're a teamspeak3 fan

#

how do you turn off automatic gain control in versions above 3.2.2

mental meadow
#

I don't think you can

twin lagoon
#

fucking stupid

pine field
#

helo

twin lagoon
#

teamspeak developers just refuse to acknowledge the existence of AGC on the ts3 forums aswell

#

but like you can literally hear your mic getting louder in the voice test

mossy vessel
#

TeamSpeak 🚮

twin lagoon
#

meanwhile on ts3 3.2.2 it works fine???

pine field
waxen panther
#

nope

#

just get a better pc thinksmart

pine field
mossy vessel
#

Sorry, I don't keep myself back by using old hardware.

twin lagoon
#

if you have 0.95kbps or a really old cpu that can't handle discord

pine field
twin lagoon
#

you've got bigger problems than running ts3/discord smoothly

limber knotBOT
#

if the argument is get better hardware, then that's software being lazy

pine field
mossy vessel
#

All my homies use Mumble

magic river
#

Err, who uses 950 baud modems?

pine field
magic river
#

Well that's just a lie

#

Is ts3 still using speex or did they move to opus like the rest of the world?

#

If it's using speex it'll be worse no matter what, if it's opus it'll be the same

magic river
#

Opus isn't meant for music

#

It just happens to work better than anything else for it

#

Opus was created by the Mumble and Skype developers for voice

pine field
#

yeah but there is this "thing", I'm an average user and not an expert or a developer

magic river
#

Ok, so just admit you're wrong and move on

pine field
#

I weren't. Discord is better for voice quality but, proportionally to the bandwidth I use on TeamSpeak (3), I can get a close result

magic river
#

TeamSpeak is using using the same codec as Discord so will have the same quality/bandwidth or is using the codec Opus was meant to replace in Mumble (and was made by the same people who made Opus) which is just worse

#

Oh I guess they also have the even worse GSM codec as an option

pine field
#

I don't know for private calls, but for server rooms you can decide how much bandwidth use (as an admin)

left swift
#

I aren't think so amaranth

magic river
#

Sure, teamspeak and mumble give you more control over bandwidth usage

#

That doesn't mean they give you better quality for the same bandwidth

#

Actually does discord give you any control over bandwidth usage?

twin lagoon
#

you can change bitrate as server owner but that's it

left swift
#

Yea

magic river
#

So the same thing as they just said for teamspeak 😛

pine field
twin lagoon
#

i just pump it to the max

magic river
#

Although on teamspeak and mumble you can also choose to use shit codecs as well so I guess that's more control

magic river
#

So teamspeak doesn't let you set it higher and this makes it better, okay...

pine field
#

use 12kbps on discord and suffer using headphones

left swift
pine field
#

do it on teamspeak and enjoy your musicbots

magic river
#

There is no way you can make an enjoyable musicbot on 12kbps

#

You're full of shit

waxen panther
#

yea bababooey

twin lagoon
#

yeah 12kbps will sound like ass regardless of what platform you use

left swift
#

Step on me

magic river
#

I've heard what Opus, speex, and GSM due to music at bitrates that low and you want to avoid it

pine field
magic river
#

You can get FM quality at about 25kbps iirc

#

There is no codec better than opus so it must be lying about the bandwidth

pine field
magic river
#

I wish I could go back to Mumble too, I'm not some Discord fanboy (although I am an Opus fanboy and Mumble used it first)

pine field
#

Also... why does ts3 have opus voice and opus music? I mean... Opus voice is worse but uses less bandwidth (always assuming they ain't lying)

magic river
#

Opus is basically two codecs smashed together that have a brief area where they're both used but you generally use it in one mode or the other

#

Opus voice is probably limited to the highest you can go and get the SILK-based mode and Opus music is probably limited to the lowest you can go and get the CELT-based mode

#

I bet Opus music also uses a larger window so it has higher latency but compresses better

#

I mean, CELT in general supports larger windows than SILK iirc but I mean they probably crank it up

pine field
#

long story short

#

TS3 is a lie

left swift
#

So is the cake

pine field
#

but I ate a... oof I don't remember the english word

#

I think it's pie

left swift
#

U ATE A PIE???

magic river
#

Oh, right, Opus 1.1 actually added some logic to the encoder to try to optimize for voice or music

pine field
#

yes, not gonna lie

left swift
#

Jk just messing with you

magic river
#

It has the ability to try to guess which one it's encoding but you can also just tell it

#

Perhaps that's why they split them

#

Oh, teamspeak uses kilobytes

pine field
#

still I can't get how in the world 12kbps would sound that good

magic river
#

That's just under 12 kilobytes a second aka 96kbps

pine field
#

what if I tought

#

both DS and TS used bytes?

#

this explains a lot of things

waxen panther
#

bro a program using bytes ? 😳

pine field
magic river
#

So it uses the same codec and the same bandwidth as Discord and has essentially the same quality

pine field
twin lagoon
#

@waxen panther weebHuggu

pine field
#

also... thank you for the explaination

magic river
#

When you're writing units like that kb is bits and kB (or KB) is bytes

waxen panther
#

@twin lagoon hugrie

pine field
#

a thing nearly 8 times smaller oof

magic river
#

KiB is what TS uses and is kibibytes, that's 1024 bytes instead of 1000

pine field
#

and this makes it even worse

#

(even not counting krisp)

magic river
#

You'll see KiB and KB used interchangeably and it can be hard to figure out which one is meant sometimes

worn ember
#

i really hate the naming of those

#

stupid normies

magic river
#

I mean, if they say KiB they meant kibibytes but sometimes KB is used to mean either one

pine field
worn ember
#

hurdur 1000 nice round number

pine field
#

I wonder why common sense of things exist if people attribute personal meaning

pine field
#

it is, but it is not

#

I will make another example because the language barrier is hitting me hard rn

magic river
#

It used to be the computing world just took over the metric units and KB always meant 1024 bytes except for hard drives who were dirty cheaters and used 1000 so they could put bigger numbers on things

#

Then we decided we should stop hijacking existing units and we're halfway through a conversion

pine field
#

my 500GB SSD having only 467GB of space be like: (yes, it is different ik)

magic river
#

If you use Windows (I want to say 7+), macOS, or GNOME tooling will say it's a 500 GB HDD because they have been updated to use KB to mean 1000

pine field
#

I use windows 10 AND MacOS Big Sur, they don't

#

I don't remember if 467 was the exact number but it is less than 500

magic river
#

They do, you're just losing space due to EFI partitions and file system overhead

#

If you check in a disk management tool it'll show 500GB for the disk

pine field
#

is an external SSD

plucky canopy
#

Are you kidding me

#

Gaming credit card?

#

Really?

waxen panther
#

Go broke, as a gamer 😎

plucky canopy
#

LmAo

pine field
# plucky canopy

finally, I can get paid for my kills in fortnite (I don't even play fortnite)

plucky canopy
#

For all that money you don't have after buying a 3090

#

"Play like the pros. Pay like the pros." That's so cringe lmao

magic river
#

Oh maybe I lied and Windows is really inconsistent about this still 😛

#

Some things are updated, some aren't

pine field
plucky canopy
#

Y e s

plucky canopy
#

Like apple

pine field
twin lagoon
warm anchor
#

What’s wrong with iOS Think

magic river
#

GNOME and macOS definitely use metric units though

pine field
#

MacOS... is on his world and I don't want to know more

magic river
#

Wait

pine field
waxen panther
#

omg software having bugs !

#

how could they 😭

plucky canopy
magic river
#

God damnit, is it really just macOS and I just got an SSD that uses TiB?

waxen panther
#

thank god there's never been a bug on android 😀

pine field
magic river
#

People got all upset when this change happened

warm anchor
#

If I recon iOS handles bug way better than android coz it force update PepeLa

pine field
plucky canopy
#

Do we even care ab MiB tho

magic river
#

No that's not 2 TiB either

plucky canopy
#

Like is it gonna pain you that much to not see zeroes when you format

magic river
#

It's just more than 2 TB but they're rounding down

pine field
magic river
#

So GNOME does use metric units then I think

plucky canopy
#

The newer ones are fine

#

I think people compare bugs on ios to like, bugs on their old samsung galaxy s4

pine field
plucky canopy
#

I just like my customization

#

Plus Apple is too behind for me

pine field
plucky canopy
#

They take the time to make sure new technology is working really well, but they wait too long imo

magic river
#

A binary prefix is a unit prefix for multiples of units in data processing, data transmission, and digital information, notably the bit and the byte, to indicate multiplication by a power of 2.
The computer industry has historically used the units kilobyte, megabyte, and gigabyte, and the corresponding symbols KB, MB, and GB, in at least two sli...

plucky canopy
#

Like wireless charging

#

And biometrics

pine field
#

And battery that doesn't give up on whatapp (that's just WA being trash)

magic river
#

So I guess the tldr on KiB vs KB is "get fucked" kekwhyper

plucky canopy
#

LmAo

pine field
pine field
golden gust
#

The values where never super consistent in the past

magic river
#

You've learned the most important lesson in software design: all abstractions leak

pine field
#

I'm just happy, finally ALL my mandatory proxy plugins got velocity support

golden gust
#

Like, then we got the "standards", which, nobody was generally willing to like, switch over their existing system, and so we basically just end up in this hell of inconsistency

magic river
#

Any attempt to make something "easier" is going to make it a nightmare in some weird corner cases unless you understand the underlying thing it's trying to make easier for you

pine field
neon scroll
pine field
magic river
#

He shows up on hover

twin lagoon
#

you don't even need to hover

warm anchor
pine field
#

now that I know it I see it but oof

magic river
#

You can also tell from the blurry text but I thought that was just my lack of sleep catching up to me 😛

#

hmm, I guess that should go in #politics because of the reason for it

cunning raft
#

posted something unfunny

#

and those have been your only 2 interactions here

worn ember
#

He could become your best friend :)

modest path
#

banned for unfunny

simple karma
modest path
#

oh my god LMFAO

magic river
#

Well shit, the roku I bought for my uncle to try to convince him to drop cable and get youtube tv is pointless now

warm anchor
#

Accurate

magic river
warm anchor
#

Yeah they are fighting

magic river
#

He doesn't already have the app, the thing is still in the box 😛

cunning raft
#

have you seen the google tv thing?

#

chromecast with android tv

magic river
#

Google wants data and AV1, Roku wants more money

#

Yeah, but I bought this cheap during Black Friday deals

#

(yes, it's been sitting in the box for 5 months)

cunning raft
#

ah

magic river
#

Ooh, any Android TV (or I guess Google TV now?) devices made after March 31st are supposed to have AV1 support

#

I guess Google was trying to push that requirement on to Roku too

#

Chromecast with Google TV doesn't support it though so I'd want to want for the next version

vital oar
#

Hello. I want to become a programmer.

I know basic java and good english.
Which programming languages should I learn and what to focus on?

What are yours experiences and suggestions?

vernal moth
#

Well, java

quasi valley
#

JetBrains has a nice Java course

vital oar
#

Should I be only focused on java?

vernal moth
#

Get good at some thing before you expand

vital oar
#

thanks

modest path
#

imo it's a pretty versatile language if difficult to learn

vital oar
#

I'm good, not expert one

warm anchor
#

Good as in hirable I hope? Mini has a good suggestion

golden gust
#

Languages you need to learn depends on what's on offer locally and what you wanna do

#

rather know 2 languages well than 200 you can hardly use

#

learning to learn is also the most important aspect of being a dev, industry moves fast

honest terrace
#

Is there a 1.16.4 server file?

waxen panther
#

why

warm anchor
plucky canopy
#

Can someone explain why this SSD only costs $20

waxen panther
#

ssds ae cheap asf now

#

you could get a good one for not much more than $20 for 120gb nowadays

#

at least over here

warm anchor
#

NVMe is what people wants know brocco

#

Anything over sata is outdated for new build

waxen panther
#

TRUE

#

i only have nvmes

plucky canopy
#

I'

#

I've never seen an SSD this cheap tho

#

its suspiciously cheap lol

golden gust
#

I mean, it's cheap crap

warm anchor
#

Also not all of them are equal

plucky canopy
#

im asking if this is a waste of money kinda cheap

golden gust
#

99% chance it has no caching so it'll rando stall in performance, but, for something cheap you can shove into a laptop or whatever to keep it going, sure

#

Depends on your needs

plucky canopy
#

meh

#

im building a new pc and the only storage ill have to start of with is a 120Gb m.2

ashen cliff
plucky canopy
#

I just want at least one other HDD, 1-2TB and i happened to come across this

plucky canopy
#

makes sense now

twin lagoon
#

ssds are cheap but you still want to pick a decent one

plucky canopy
#

oh they make m.2 as well lol

#

3.4Gbs/s

#

but cheap crap

#

ohh

#

its microcenter brand

ashen cliff
#

Things I need:

plucky canopy
#

um?

waxen panther
#

krusic you're a hardware man right

ashen cliff
#

Sadly.

waxen panther
#

do you know of any nice looking matx cases that support very very long gpus

ashen cliff
#

I avoid cases at all cost.

waxen panther
#

my matx case doesnt fit my 3090 and i cant find any

#

fs

#

balkans rolling_eyes !

vale rune
#

Slovene moment.

nova plume
#

Broccoli try the Corsair 280x

magic river
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Just send me your 3090, problem solved

twin lagoon
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needs more meshify 2 @waxen panther

warm anchor
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No case needed

ashen cliff
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What model do you even have?

warm anchor
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He has 3080

waxen panther
warm anchor
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3090

golden gust
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find me a better case, I'll wait.

waxen panther
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i have a 3090 suprim x

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literally the longest 3090 on the market i think lol

warm anchor
nova plume
warm anchor
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Lmao

ashen cliff
waxen panther
nova plume
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That hello kitty kbd tho

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Lmao

ashen cliff
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Or better yet:

golden gust
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lol

warm anchor
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Lol

magic river
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That's the one I was expecting

twin lagoon
waxen panther
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Ooo I’ll look

golden gust
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OPTIMAL AIRFLOW

waxen panther
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I have a pcie extender and I’m just going to use that until a case arrives PepeLa

worn ember
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in any case

nova plume
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Don’t pcie risers cost a shit ton

ashen cliff
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Depends.

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Quality ones, yes.

waxen panther
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My previous previous case came with one

nova plume
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Yeah i mean you wouldn’t go buy one that would snap

waxen panther
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I got this case this year so it’s very sadge

golden gust
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looks at NZXT

warm anchor
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Just mount them parallel to your Mb

nova plume
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Wdym the 280x is one of rhr best looking cases imo

golden gust
warm anchor
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With your raiser brocco

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Lmao wtf

nova plume
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In terms of looks

golden gust
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Yea, the case looks pretty hot, ngl

warm anchor
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I don’t look a my case just me.

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They hidden on the back of my desk lol

magic river
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I really want to get one of those console-sized cases

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Although consoles are becoming tower PC sized these days

waxen panther
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Meshify mini isn’t long enough either lol

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Suprim x is 336

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Maybe I’ll have to get a atx case :(

golden gust
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Sony is teaming up with sharp next time around

nova plume
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Chop the extruding bit off

golden gust
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only a 15MB image, yolo

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GO BITS, GO

waxen panther
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I buzzsawed my 1080 at one point but uh

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There will be no sharp objects near my 3090

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Ever

golden gust
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wait, wa, 4mb on the site, 15mb to paste, nice

nova plume
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Linus comes to ur home and drops the 3090

worn ember
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why would you cram that in a m-atx case?

ashen cliff
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Well, the Thermaltake Core P1 exists.

nova plume
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M atx cases and motherboards tend to be cheaper

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Less pcb and materials

worn ember
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no shit there but thats useless if it doesnt fit

waxen panther
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No I just like having a smaller pc lol

ashen cliff
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It kinda has infinite GPU length. kekwhyper

waxen panther
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I didn’t think I’d be buying a new gpu when i bought the case

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Core p3 was my case before this one

potent fossil
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so tax guy mistyped my fucking checking account

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now i get to wait weeks

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possibly months

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for my fucking tax return :)

magic river
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The Meshify Mini and Define Mini are both 33.4 liters

ashen cliff
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Assuming you are going to get any taxes back.

worn ember
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bureaucracy strikes once more

magic river
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I'm looking for like 12 liters 😛

potent fossil
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im getting $3000.

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now i get to wait for it.

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because of this god damn fucking idiot

worn ember
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you sure thats not a typo too?

potent fossil
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that amount is from the IRS, the accountant is not the IRS

nova plume
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It’s $30.00

worn ember
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ya never know

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2 faults makes a right

nova plume
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Yes