modding-discussion

[swift bison]

idk

this creates new tk2d sprites and animations at runtime, but can keep the originals

[late lodge]

just started, halfway or nearly finished

[swift bison]

been with the project since like idk > 4 months haven't been working on it much recently

originally started making it since I wanted to see if a sprite could be converted to a tk2d sprite

[nimble lichen]

i swear i need this yesterday 🤣

[swift bison]

answer: yes

[nimble lichen]

for ServerKnights i needed to create a new instance of the animations with another spritesheet but i didnt have the values for pos & anims

[swift bison]

you can get those from a tk2dspritedefinition

[late lodge]

so its like GODump that dumps single parts of the atlas

only you put it baack together

[nimble lichen]

for all the frames ? and then reuse the animation ?

[swift bison]

also currently you don't need separate knight and sprint sheets

[swift bison]

I guess???? it has nothing to do with the original knight sheet

I can give y'all a mod I made as sort of a mini version of customknight+

[nimble lichen]

currently i'm having to add a MaterialPropertyBlock and replace the mainTexture on the fly based on the animation clip on the gameObject

[swift bison]

oof

[nimble lichen]

for players other than the local one

[swift bison]

https://github.com/RedFrog6002/RandomKnight

the effect of the mod isn't really related to customknight+ but the code deals with tk2dspritedefinitions

anyways why does among us modding have to be so hard

[nimble lichen]

https://www.2dtoolkit.com/docs/latest/html/classtk2d_sprite_collection_data.html
from what i understand i'd need to use CreateFromTexture here to generate my own sprites that are compatible with existing animations

so the string[] names, Rect[] regions, Vector2[] anchors these parameters i couldn't figure out to be able to make it

customknight+ sounds like it does away with that need by making whole new animations on whole new sheets

[swift bison]

I copied the code from that and edited it to work in CustomKnight + better

[atomic ledge]

forgot the s at the end

[karmic umbra]

Yeah I realized that after a sec and had to scroll up to check what I messed up begs the question why i didn't just click the links up there. I am not smart

?mods

[granite agate]

Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1lnjtSYMfRe1LyA_qSq2CoXKI6NRm_I-e
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

[thorn salmon]

Did I just hear "CustomKnight+"? Like for real?

Sorry for popping up randomly

I just want to make my own Knight, but the sprite sheet is confusing...

[late lodge]

You'll have to stick with it for now

• will take a long time

[thorn salmon]

Is there a way to know which sprite on the sheet is which, or do I have to experiment?

[lime harness]

some are as painfully as obvious but you can experiment.

i think

[thorn salmon]

Like, I can't even find the first frame of the idle animation, because I don't know which one it is

[hollow echo]

So I’m playing the impossible any% mod and if I wanna take a break can I toggle the decorations master mod off

[lime harness]

what's the decorations master mod again

also your choice

[hollow echo]

It basically changes the rooms

[lime harness]

well

idk

[hollow echo]

F

[lime harness]

lol

i never tried impossible any%

[atomic ledge]

yes you can, just toggle it back on when you use the save

if you re open it after sitting on a deco master bench the save is softlocked till u redownload it

[vagrant orbit]

There are a few ways to separate the sprite sheets into separate files, and organize them by animation.
There's a copy of the Knight files pinned in this channel, and others in one of the art channels

[vagrant orbit]

Here's my confusion:
I feel like from a lot of what I've seen you say about CustomKnight+, it'll completely replace CustomKnight. But then it seems like you say that's not the case?

How is CK+ able to give so much freedom to what skins can be, if it's not replacing how CK works entirely?

Like, is CK+ a standalone mod, or does it require CK?

[swift bison]

Stand-alone mod

[swift bison]

It won’t replace it, they are different mods with different methods of replacing sprites, mine being more complex, but allows for more stuff

[late lodge]

but if it does the same as CK why would anyone use it?

[swift bison]

As I said, it’s more complex, but allows for more stuff

Ex: daughter of hallownest’s lantern’s light is cut off

CustomKnight+ allows for sprite with larger sizes than the original spritesheets allow

[late lodge]

Gigantic knight

[swift bison]

Also if somebody wanted more or less frames in an animation, CustomKnight + can do that.

[late lodge]

120fps gigantic knight

[swift bison]

See how good it will be for skin creators?

[late lodge]

Yes

[swift bison]

Just need to rewrite a bit of it and it will be even better

[late lodge]

Then 1.5 comes and everything breaks

[swift bison]

I don’t think so

Tc is still using tk2d

[late lodge]

Ya better hope

[swift bison]

We know it does

[late lodge]

Has been an awful long time since last beta

Whats gonna change

[swift bison]

But if they already have tk2d working in unity 2020, why switch now after betas?

[late lodge]

Just kiddin :)

[swift bison]

That is a core part of hollow knight, all enemy spritesheets, fsms, the knight, ect is tk2d

[vagrant orbit]

Ah, okay.
I think this is somewhat what I've been confused then:
You say that yours won't replace it, but why not?
They are different mods, with different methods, but it seems like yours seeks to be all around better, and thus replace it lol. It seems like yours is going to use multiple files- will it be able to convert skins that are currently made for CK to versions for CK+? (And if so, then honestly I'd say that it is just going to replace it. Why use CK when CK+ is strictly better?)

[swift bison]

Won’t convert skins

[late lodge]

Im rly confused now

If it doesnt have skins the why customknight

[vagrant orbit]

Is the file structure going to be based on GoDump's?

[late lodge]

Smth like that

[swift bison]

It can’t convert skins from CustomKnight smh

[late lodge]

Oh like that im stoopid

[swift bison]

I guess????? One of the updates I’m making from my temporary code is support for multiple pngs, but I think it might be really memory intensive for a godump amount

[nimble lichen]

not directly but could someone not use it to make 1 skin work and then use the same pos etc for other skins ?

[swift bison]

Yep

[nimble lichen]

so then technically it covers all of ck feature set and more

[swift bison]

I could try writing another thing to convert the knight sprites, tried a while ago, but gave up

[swift bison]

Yes. It doesn’t have the skin stuff on the side though

[nimble lichen]

the UI you mean ?

[swift bison]

Yes

[hot sparrow]

so i messed some things up and now a white square talks to elderbug

[late lodge]

Ok so it doesnt support multiple skins?

[swift bison]

Not yet at least

[late lodge]

#archived-modding-help

[hot sparrow]

no i fixed it

[swift bison]

I think one complex skin is enough for people

[hot sparrow]

i just wanted to share it

[late lodge]

Yeah lol

[swift bison]

Anyways, I’m going to go back to school things now, goodbye, see y’all in like 3 hours

[late lodge]

Prob not y'all

but bye

[nimble lichen]

you underestimate us

[late lodge]

Someone is gonna make customknight+ support multiple skins

[vagrant orbit]

Honestly, it seems like the logical next step.
Yeah, you typically only use one skin in a playthrough, but you need a method to change them, and most things are easier for players at run-time

It might make sense to wait until Homothety finishes the mod menu stuff though, and use that. (Or possibly use WeaverCore, but it depends on what all Homothety's thing will do).

[rapid aurora]

can i tell everyone about something i found in the hollow point mod

[vagrant orbit]

Is it a gun?

[rapid aurora]

its an instakill

bug

[vagrant orbit]

You kill lots of bugs

You have a gun

[rapid aurora]

ok listen

thorns of agony in the mod fires off around 15 - 20 spikes at a % chance when you hit something, these fire in a circle around you. Not sure how much damage they do each, but one thing i do know is if you stand inside a boss, fire and this activates it does one of two things - 1-your game crashes. 2-you instakill the boss after a short freeze

[late lodge]

there are a lot of bugs in hk

[late lodge]

i know

i thought it was another mod that did it

[rapid aurora]

edit my game just bugged because of it and now i have infinite soul

And thus ends the quest of paintmaster sheo

5 minutes 17, a new record

[random elk]

A google docs with the readmes for mods in the installer
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NmYCR8diRropqFDm9-n1aR0_XuQSHRdfxgsY4WrVmSs/edit?usp=sharing

[atomic ledge]

Wow theres an easier p5 practice mod? yoo

[minor tinsel]

oh sick the readme got revamped

or

the doc

[hexed nimbus]

damn, the readme for additionalmaps is amazing

the one on the installer is more descriptive lol

[random elk]

the readmes for all your mods are amazing

[hexed nimbus]

ikr

[random elk]

i should learn

[hexed nimbus]

but the one for test of teamwork is the most scuffed

[hexed nimbus]

fake news, the one for languagesupport is actually good

so, updated all of the readmes

[random elk]

which readmes do i update?

oh wait i can't read

[thorn salmon]

Excuse me, how do I find it? I'm new to Discord.

[random elk]

it = pins?

[thorn salmon]

Yes

[hexed nimbus]

?pins

[granite agate]

Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png

[random elk]

?pins

[granite agate]

Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png

[thorn salmon]

Which of these pins is the one? There are several pins about sprites

Is this the one by Benji about the sprite packer or what?

[vagrant orbit]

Yeah, that's the Knight one

[thorn salmon]

Thank you.

[heady ermine]

hey guys

do yall know where i can download the mod installer-

[random elk]

?i think dyno should answer that question

[granite agate]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[heady ermine]

thank you ;)

[late lodge]

you're getting better at this

[rustic aurora]

is the nexus mods installer updated?

[swift bison]

No

[rustic aurora]

it is outdated?

[swift bison]

Yes

#archived-modding-help has the updated one

[rustic aurora]

is the installer open source?

I found https://github.com/ricardosouzag/ModInstaller/releases on github

[abstract tendon]

That is ModInstaller 1, the one people generally use, yes

[rustic aurora]

so than what is 2?

[abstract tendon]

A sequel

It is an updated/recreated/new version which fulfills the same functionality and is also available on mac

It is also open source, in a different repo, I think

[rustic aurora]

are there any bugfixes/new mods also?

[abstract tendon]

No

[dry snow]

Its basically personal preference if you want to use modinstaller 1 or 2. Unless your on Mac, then you need to use 2

[abstract tendon]

They both install from the same modlist

And 1 has a few more convenience/catch-alls for mistakes

So use that

[rustic aurora]

one final question, why werent the two improvements just merged into 1?

[abstract tendon]

Likely because 1 is based on winforms which is not cross platform

Also sometimes programmers hate their old stuff and want to re-do it. I know it

[rustic aurora]

why don't you guys maintain a nexus page though? isent nexus the most popular mod site>?

[abstract tendon]

That choice was likely made a long time ago and it's likely due to the effort involved ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gilded sierra]

it doesn't work for our setup

[abstract tendon]

It could work for the ecosystem here (I think. Jamie probably knows better). You can create a vortex plugin to install the modding API and use vortex+mods hosted on nexus. It's just work.

[gilded sierra]

the modinstaller on nexus was not put there by gradow i believe, just somebody put it there

It's just work.
yeah, and while modinstaller works there's not too much point touching it

[rustic aurora]

are there any strong opinions on the one on nexus? I feel like on one hand it sucks he did not upload it but also more hollow knight modders I suppose

[abstract tendon]

Yes, don't use it.

It literally offers no advantage one way or the other but at least getting it from here is the official source.

[gilded sierra]

the one on nexus should be broken considering we made a breaking update and that version was before the auto-updater was released

[rustic aurora]

when was that? what is the latest version number? 8.7.1 right?

[gilded sierra]

couldn't tell you, i don't use modinstaller

[weak plinth]

The devs told us to keep everything here, so we did.

Anything from nexus or other sites can't be guaranteed to be safe to use or up to date.

Just grab them from the pins here

[rustic aurora]

ok 👍

[brave crescent]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew/edit#

does this link to the mods listed in it?

[hot sparrow]

?mods

[granite agate]

Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1lnjtSYMfRe1LyA_qSq2CoXKI6NRm_I-e
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

[random elk]

The mods listed there can be downloaded from the modinstaller

[ember seal]

how do i download mod?

[random elk]

?I would download the installer, and download the mod from there

[granite agate]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[brave crescent]

thank you

[real fog]

What is "unofficial hollow knight patch" in the modinstaller?

[random elk]

A google docs with the readmes for mods in the installer
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NmYCR8diRropqFDm9-n1aR0_XuQSHRdfxgsY4WrVmSs/edit?usp=sharing

[random elk]

The README can answer that question

[wooden fox]

I'm here to ask if anyone knows how to edit the text in Hollow Knight because the only thing I want to do is change the name of (Godhome Spoilers) ||Absolute Radiance to Absolute Madlad||

[heady ermine]

hey uh

does anybody nknow how to fix this cause none of the mods im using on the mod installer are actually workin

know

[random elk]

this =?

[heady ermine]

uh

[random elk]

#archived-modding-help

[heady ermine]

oh-

[uneven nest]

?mods

[granite agate]

Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1lnjtSYMfRe1LyA_qSq2CoXKI6NRm_I-e
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

[late lodge]

why so many ?mods

[delicate goblet]

A mod that replaces Balder Shell with a poorly cropped and rendered substitute.

[late lodge]

customknight

make the baldur shell be shit

[delicate goblet]

I don't have a good enough computer to run the game at all.

Don't even have it on PC, Xbox player.

Just throwing some cursed thoughts for mods out.

[late lodge]

Cur se__d__

[steep fog]

Does anyone do custom knight commissions, or know someone that does

[abstract tendon]

I'm also interested in the answer to that, but last time I asked I got no bites.

#art-discussion is a good place to ask if you haven't already. I have it muted so just saying in case.

[pulsar token]

Decomaster mod on mac ? Does it work ?

[late lodge]

probably

[pulsar token]

Ok

Where’s the link

[late lodge]

search for it on github

and #archived-modding-help

[swift bison]

Just download the same file as windows

Then put it where other mods are stored

[late lodge]

yeah it isn't on the installer

[swift bison]

Fireb0rn has a video on how to install it(get the link from that vid)

[wicked berry]

It's also on the drive with the levels

[empty saddle]

if I have already defeated Zote and so he doesnt show up at the end of the first trial in the Colosseum, can I still get the fool skin if everything was was done?

[atomic ledge]

You use the save file provided

[empty saddle]

Thank you

[karmic umbra]

Are these red slash effects on the Knight.png sprites for Fury of the fallen attacks?

[cursive thicket]

i belive so

[ancient rampart]

hi im doing a randomizer play through and am seriously regretting my decision to not create a spoiler log. is there a way to make one?

[weak plinth]

remake the same seed

on a new save

[ancient rampart]

is there a way to see my seed?

i never wrote it down

[weak plinth]

if you have QoL, you can look in your save itself

[ancient rampart]

i do

[weak plinth]

so go to saves, open userX.json

where x is the slot you're using

?saves

[granite agate]

Saves

---

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

[ancient rampart]

okay where in the document would it be?

just serch seed?

[weak plinth]

probably

[ancient rampart]

"222925894" this number?

[weak plinth]

seems like it

yup

[ancient rampart]

or would it be formatted differently?

alright

[weak plinth]

no

it's a 9 digit number

so that looks right

[ancient rampart]

actually wait... where would the log be generated

[weak plinth]

saves

[ancient rampart]

i think it was on by default

[weak plinth]

same place

should be a spoiler log, helper log, and 1 more

[ancient rampart]

....does the nail smith not exist?

i look up nail

and its just the dream nail

[weak plinth]

nail smith is vanilla

you need to find pale ore

[ancient rampart]

im aware

i have 2 pale ore

i cant find the nail smith and was hoping this would help

[weak plinth]

you playing room randomizer then?

[ancient rampart]

yea room and item rando

[weak plinth]

spoiler says all room transitions

you just need to know what his room is called

it's not going to be "nailsmith"

[ancient rampart]

ah alright

yea i dont

anyway to warp to a room?

found out how

[tribal sable]

Sorry completely new to installing mods. What version of the game does one need to mod? I assume Gamepass is a no-no, Steam version ok? Also whats a good guide to a start on installing mods?

[weak plinth]

?pins

[granite agate]

Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png

[weak plinth]

#archived-modding-help

[final folio]

I got infinite notches, and did eternal ordeal to 178

[buoyant walrus]

hello guys, wanted to know how to install mods ? how can i do ? do i need to use nexus or other things ?

[hexed nimbus]

?i

[granite agate]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[buoyant walrus]

i dont need tyo do the regedit thing right ?

[random elk]

What regedit?

The one in the pins?

If so then no

[buoyant walrus]

ok thanks

[late lodge]

Regedit is only in case it doesnt work, and only on w7 vista or xp

[lime harness]

does the enemy hpbar boss bar goes right to left or left to right

i think it's right to left

well

left to right*

[late lodge]

Why you wanna know?

[lime harness]

i think i figured it out

i tried to make a boss bar

[hexed nimbus]

just make it like the preloading bar: middle to sides

[swift bison]

Not confusing at all

[granite agate]

Saves

---

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

[storm glacier]

?saves

[storm glacier]

?mods

[granite agate]

Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1lnjtSYMfRe1LyA_qSq2CoXKI6NRm_I-e
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

[storm glacier]

is the redwing mod supposed to give infinite soul?

[random elk]

i think it does

[weak plinth]

Yes

[dire magnet]

?help

[late lodge]

help?

[dire magnet]

just wondering if i can get a list of all of the abbreviations from the bot

[late lodge]

that doesnt exist

[dire magnet]

it does, i just got dm'd :^)

[late lodge]

?help

amazing

[dire magnet]

:^)

but i guess ?mods, ?saves, etc. are custom abbreviations/commands

is there a list anywhere?

[swift bison]

?help me

[nimble lichen]

?help godzilla

[random elk]

there's ?psa and ?srpsa

[dire magnet]

?psa

[granite agate]

Reminder: Please avoid any discussion of Hollow Knight and Silksong in #off-topic (and delete your potential spoilers!). Discuss details in #hk-general, #hk-discussion or #sk-discussion; and for help in Hollow Knight ask in #hk-help!

[dire magnet]

?srpsa

[granite agate]

Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

[dire magnet]

oh lel

[swift bison]

Let’s not get too far off topic now

[dire magnet]

anything other mod-related though?

so there's ?saves, ?mods, what else?

[swift bison]

We don’t want a mod coming here and destroying us

[random elk]

theres also ?mute

[late lodge]

?saves, ?i, ?mods

[dire magnet]

?i

[granite agate]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[dire magnet]

?mods

[granite agate]

Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1lnjtSYMfRe1LyA_qSq2CoXKI6NRm_I-e
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

[dire magnet]

that's all i suppose?

[random elk]

was it really necessary to test the bot commands?

[swift bison]

Nah

I guess it’s fun then(?)

[late lodge]

lets just stop about it

[dire magnet]

i mean i just wanted to see ?mods again LOL

[late lodge]

why do we not have a botspam chanel

[random elk]

its kinda obvious

[late lodge]

not for me?

[gilded sierra]

the botspam channel used to be #meme

[late lodge]

[orchid star]

Don't know if i'm in the right chat to ask this, but what are the differences in the kinds of randomizers? mostly area, room and connected area.
I've played HK a ton and know the normal areas and am quite excited for the game to randomize the map but will it be random set connected points between area transitions? If so, will the map work?

[gilded sierra]

room = every transition is random outside of a few (most notably everything inside black egg temple)

area = transitions between areas are randomised

connected-area room = rooms are randomised within their areas, so you have to leave an area through the transition that would normally leave said area, but that transition will take you to another randomised area

there's a map of the area transitions in the last pin of #randomizer i believe

[balmy wraith]

Now I know why everyone is using VS...

Cuz Rider costs you

[swift bison]

F

[balmy wraith]

But I cannot use VS... My computer is not that good and not able to play in Windows, so I have to use Linux to utilize the hardware

And now the only IDE I can use is costing me

[abstract tendon]

Use a lighterweight alternative like VSCode

If you can't afford/don't want to pay for a full-fledged IDE, then use something else I guess

[balmy wraith]

I cannot compile a project in VSCode

At least I don't know how

[abstract tendon]

It might require more effort or CLI commands, but that's what google is for

[balmy wraith]

Okay then... Life will always find their way out

[hexed nimbus]

idea for a simple mod: make hollow knight a vr game

[lime harness]

idea for a simple mod: make hollow knight into silksong

[vagrant orbit]

idea for a simple mod: make hollow knight

[orchid panther]

Fun fact, doesn't look like the modinstaller is compatible with windows 7. q:

[empty saddle]

Why don’t you upgrade to 10?

[gilded sierra]

not again

[orchid panther]

I am right now lol. My computer broke, so I've dusted off my old laptop from 8 years ago.

It still had windows 7 on it.

[gilded sierra]

did you download it from the radiance link or

[orchid panther]

Honestly what was windows thinking about this tablet-like interface for windows 7? I hate it so much

[gilded sierra]

tablet like was windows 8 bud

[orchid panther]

oh yeah it is windows 8 mb

[late lodge]

Well modinstaller works on 7, vista and xp

[swift bison]

get a recording of it working smh I don’t believe u

[late lodge]

Well look at the first pin of this channel

[swift bison]

no give me vid evdnc

[late lodge]

i dont have a pc with win7, vista or xp

I have one with linux

[swift bison]

>:(

[late lodge]

From 20 years ago

[random elk]

If you don't give evidence we don't believe you

[late lodge]

Well how would you be able to solve a problem with it if it isn't possible

[late lodge]

watch me sut up an vm

[random elk]

Ruttie stream?

[late lodge]

No

Its to late here

19:31

and i dont have an rondom xp key laying around here

[gilded sierra]

i mean first pin of this channel should be obsolete, i pushed a fix to the installer a while ago and there have been updates since then

[lime harness]

sut

[late lodge]

sut?

[swift bison]

Sut -Ruttie 2021

[late lodge]

Why me

[abstract tendon]

sut? - Ruttie 2021

[hexed nimbus]

"sut?" ~ Rut "Why me " tie

[hexed nimbus]

?saves

[granite agate]

Saves

---

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

[gentle scaffold]

Thank you.

[empty saddle]

Benji is still the guy to go to to get the challenge skins right?

[minor tinsel]

yes

[empty saddle]

Ok

[scarlet vector]

does inferno king grimm pufferfish three times like NKG?

[atomic ledge]

might be 4

[rose tartan]

IKG has 3 different phases and goes through the puffer fish move 3 times

[meager wyvern]

In enemy randomizer, what is included in godmaster enemies option? Flukemunga? Or just all pantheon bosses

[potent path]

Iis there a mod that gives you unlimited charm slots, if yes what is its name?

[random elk]

inifnite notches

[potent path]

thanks

[late lodge]

another SHA1 to be fixed

https://github.com/ricardosouzag/ModInstaller/pull/85

lets hope i never make a mistake

[random elk]

its a draft so they can't merge it

[late lodge]

yeah i know

i am checkig that i dont make mistakes first

checking*

[late lodge]

its not a draft anymore

[storm moat]

eh my windows saying that modinstaller is dangerous thing

[silver garden]

It doesn't have a license, but assuming you got the one from here, it's okay

Just press run anyway

[hexed nimbus]

yea, that's because it isn't digitally signed by anybody (and this discord server wouldn't be partnered if we did distribute viruses)
to go around that, hit more infos -> run anyway

[nimble lichen]

anyone know the original drive link of this skin ?

it looks like an combination of https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nHSmMngHJklp2lhrgcD0tO_wQPJfUenQ
and https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C0JfXBy9PxaqXIZIOCJlRUANFn1XS8AR/view?usp=sharing

[late lodge]

where did you find the image?

[nimble lichen]

so i was playing one of the first alpha build of ServerKnights and someone had added this to their server and it got synced to my laptop. this looks cool so i was hoping i could create a skin.json for it.

[late lodge]

maybe ask on the hkmp server, have never seen it

[nimble lichen]

ah alright sounds like a good idea, i was hoping that there was a secret google drive with more skins 😛

[stiff wolf]

pretty sure there's a version of that knight head without the sapphire stuff floating around... for the sparkly stuff i think someone just edited it

ah, uninfected vessel https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pHpG-EfWbzrGz63zR_RPWhvOyx2NroEt

[nimble lichen]

in case i can't find other sheets for this one i'll use the versions here at least the head would be consistent

[dry snow]

not sure if this is the right channel but where did hwurpU come from?

[frosty vault]

in the multiplayer mod have they added enemy sync?

ok thanks

[simple imp]

wouldn't it be cool if modding could actually get to the point of custom enemies, bosses, or areas

[swift bison]

Already done

[simple imp]

wait what

[swift bison]

Areas: Test of teamwork, pale court, the sanctuary
Custom enemies: boss mods, indie crossover, pale court, and the sanctuary for completely new bosses(bosses are the same as enemies in the code)

[simple imp]

they must be coded at least slightly different, because the introductory card but other than that i could see them being considered just enemies with high hp

I wonder how to get all those mods? can't find em on mod installer

[late lodge]

pale court isn't out

[swift bison]

Intro card is just a trigger for displaying something

[swift bison]

Test of teamwork beta is on the installer, the others are in development

[simple imp]

ah ok

[hexed nimbus]

'beta', versin 0.9.9.9 i think

[simple imp]

i would assume pale court would be a sub-area of the white palace like path of pain?

[late lodge]

Yes lol

[late lodge]

Its a new game mode of sorts

[simple imp]

oh? ok then

What exactly is this test of teamwork thing?

[late lodge]

(Being) Made by someone

[late lodge]

Ask SFG

(Its exactly what you said)

[simple imp]

i would assume it involves teamwork with some sort of enemy or npc, or it involves multiplayer?

[hexed nimbus]

test of teamwork is a singleplayer mod, adds a platforming section to the white palace

[simple imp]

oh ok then

i'm not sure i'm that interested then because white palace can burn in hell

[late lodge]

Ok

Now what if i say that it has rotating rotating saws

[random elk]

and new mechanics

[simple imp]

and i didn't know there were things that added/will add new bosses, but i knew there were plenty that add harder fights to godhome

[late lodge]

Indie crossover

[simple imp]

you mean like the saws are moving in a circular path?

[late lodge]

Adds completely new bosses

[late lodge]

Yes

[simple imp]

I would assume the bosses would probably mostly be from other indie games from the name of the mod

[hexed nimbus]

yes

currently there are propeller knight, the plant from cuphead and Fennel from Momodora Reverie Under the Moonlight

[simple imp]

propeller knight sounds funny

wait where would they be located? in actual locations? or in godhome?

[hexed nimbus]

in the hall of gods as additional statues

[random elk]

there's was also a shade boss fight made by someone

[simple imp]

fight the shade lord

[hexed nimbus]

saleh made it, somebody of the chinese community made it more

[simple imp]

kill the void

[late lodge]

Not shade lord

Just your shade

WWith a bunch of powerups

[simple imp]

yeah

it would probably take a lot to make a shade lord fight

[swift bison]

Just watch me make it-

[late lodge]

Finish pale court first

[swift bison]

🤔

same with sfg, saleh, sid, and 56

[late lodge]

Ues

Yes*

sid?

[swift bison]

Modder

[late lodge]

I know all the names exept sid

[wispy zealot]

How does one customise the upgradeable grimmchild?

[random elk]

there's a globalsettings file in the saves file location

[wispy zealot]

Hrmm, where does hollow knight keep its saves normally?

[random elk]

?saves

[granite agate]

Saves

---

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

[wispy zealot]

Bloody appdata

Thanks

Holy moly it makes the grimmchild cost six notches

Jesus

[graceful lantern]

is the multiplayer mod worth it for pvp? i want to give it a go but not if the latency gets in the way

[late lodge]

HKMP yes, mods on the installer prob not

[graceful lantern]

good to know, thanks

[simple imp]

ah yes hollow point is bugged

the projectiles can't damage massive moss charger

[late lodge]

Thats normal

Too hard to fix it

[simple imp]

why specifically massive moss charger?

[late lodge]

It has a wierd hitbox or smth

[simple imp]

ok

[vagrant orbit]

IIRC it's not just MMC, but that's the most obvious/earliest case of it.

[surreal silo]

what's the link to modinstaller2?

[random elk]

#archived-modding-help pins

[wraith hinge]

Hey lads, are there customknight skins uploaded to this discord?

[swift bison]

Check the pins of this and #archived-modding-help

[wraith hinge]

thank you knight

[simple imp]

mmmyes the collector refused to die with blackmoth and redwing on

[simple imp]

i don't know why it gets stuck in the death animation

[random elk]

How many times did you hit collector after he died?

[rapid burrow]

Did they fix collector underflow in cp, or did they just fix how some attack types (flukes) could get underflow and inf collector?

[potent path]

im playing with roomrando, and whenver i try to use a simple key on a door i get some dialogue about elderbug and cant use the key, why is this

[random elk]

randomizer doesnt allow you to use the only key you have until you unlock royal waterways

[potent path]

ok, thanks

[simple imp]

multiple times

i know it's bugged because he froze there without animation

specifically in pantheon 3 btw

[tight wagon]

Is there a mod that helps with obtaining the Hunter's Mark?

[random elk]

what would be in that mod?

[tight wagon]

Basically, just telling you which enemies you have not yet killed for it

[random elk]

use this to check https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tMgjRbOISUAZMALQ9OGayzTz45ZYUjfv/view?usp=sharing

[tight wagon]

Ah, this will suffice. Thank you ^^

[tough basin]

@dry snow ?!!!??!!?

Your back!!

Yo update your boss rush to godmaster.

[pulsar token]

question

the first is 001-00-007 or 001-03-000 ?

idle

and idk if the first is the one with the lowest last number of the lowest 2nd

[pulsar token]

on the knight's idle animation.

is the first this one ?

or this one

oh

they look pretty similar

do I go to modding help ?

[silver garden]

Do you have Sprite Packer downloaded?

If you go into Sprite Packer is will tell you the name of the Sprite for each frame

[stiff wolf]

the "first" is the one with 00 in the middle of the name, i suppose it would matter more for animations that don't loop

the last number is a unique number for each sprite - if a sprite on the sheet is in multiple animations, godump creates a file for it in each animation with the same last number

so you can only have one 004 sprite

[normal panther]

Not that I can think of

wait

oh my god my screen was scrolled up

[fickle scroll]

Just a quick question. Rusty is streaming rn and i dont know which mod he is using for the fire spells. Can someone help?

[hexed nimbus]

probably fyremoth that his team is developing

[fickle scroll]

oh so can i use it or is it not out yet

[errant lance]

open the installer and find out

[fickle scroll]

it is not there so no. Thanks :)

[errant lance]

also

just says skin

[fickle scroll]

ye i saw that but i dont think skin mod does that

[hexed nimbus]

i have insider information that it is indeed a mod

[errant lance]

he lyin then 🥴

[stiff wolf]

maybe he means "skin for the fyremoth mod" ? it is not clear tho

[swift bison]

Fyremoth: both a skin and a mod

Rusty is currently using the skin instead of the mod in development due to modcommon not liking to work with it enabled(?)

The fire spells are just a normal part of CustomKnight

Modifying how the spells look

@fickle scroll

[fickle scroll]

ok thank u but is the fyremoth gonna have custom spells or just the skin?

[swift bison]

In the stream it’s just the skin

I won’t say anything on the mod as I don’t want to spoil anything

[fickle scroll]

ok thank u : )

[charred rock]

yo sorry to bother yall can someone explain to me the modinstaller mods or at least the good ones?

[swift bison]

Good

For the last time

I’ll explain this

[charred rock]

if u already have i can just scroll up to it dont need to trouble yourself

[swift bison]

Good: some people like boss mods, some like new rooms, some like randomizers, ect

Ehh, I already typed it

You can read the readmes of mods after installing them

You’ll probably find what you’re looking for from those

If not, then

?mods

[granite agate]

Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1lnjtSYMfRe1LyA_qSq2CoXKI6NRm_I-e
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

[swift bison]

Mod summaries

[charred rock]

oh blackmoth seems cool

so the idea is that you use sharp shadow basically instead of attacks?

[versed remnant]

Yep. Something I did broke it. Might be related to the latest message in #archived-modding-development so if someone could help me that would be nice

[versed remnant]

It is far from finished

[grand cipher]

Yo gamers, I have heard about a new multiplayer mod. Are we able to use it or is it exclusive?

[swift bison]

you can use it

[grand cipher]

Ok cool

[manic juniper]

I duplicated hornet.....oh god...

ALL I HEAR IS SHAW

OH GOD

THEY ALL CROUCHED

HELP

Wha

Uh

They are all crouching and won’t get up

[nimble lichen]

now duplicate the knight and have all of them use your inputs 🥺

[manic juniper]

h o w

Uhm

[nimble lichen]

how did you duplicate hornet ?

[manic juniper]

I’m trapped behind bars

[nimble lichen]

debugmod ?

[manic juniper]

Ye

lol

This menu

[nimble lichen]

happened to me too i just reloaded the save and set a dreamgate before entering next time

[manic juniper]

ok.

evil laughing intensifies

100+ HORNETS

Nvm it made me crash qvq cri

[dry snow]

ok, i have an idea

a competitive multiplayer mod for hollow knight, masks double, if you get one, you can snipe it again from another player after it takes 5 minutes to reload, it only dose this once however, needed powers always stay so people can beat the game, nail arts can only be gotten once, and wont re generate, if you banish the troupe while another player is fighting nkg, they get kicked out and loose all their geo, and their child, you can progress and it affects the other player, like having one player doing the work and snagging the easy win, and if both players make it to the hollow knight or radiance, they fight to the death, who ever losses gets a steel soul game over, while the other player wins, if someone finishes the final pantheon before someone else beats the game, then they win, and you can kill players during this, though they respawn unlike the steel soul finale

[cursive torrent]

Any chance there's a mod to change vengefly speeds as if your fps was different?

Specifically I want them to move faster

[wicked berry]

Sanic mod increases the timescale of the game, so they'll go faster but so will you

[barren wharf]

Wouldn't it make sense to put this in the multiplayer discord server

[wicked berry]

People don't know that exists

[marsh basin]

Now this is gonna sound weird but is there a mod that makes glowing womb only take soul from the extra containers ?

[late lodge]

no?

afaik not

[dry snow]

So I’m doing a thing and I’m looking at the sprites but I realize what are these red things ?? Is it the fury charm attack or something else by for reason I can’t seem to figure it out

[gilded sierra]

nail slash with fury is red yes

[dry snow]

Ok tysm I thought it might’ve been

[tranquil wagon]

Wait can you change the colors of them just asking

[dry snow]

Can I ? Yes
Overall
Yes pretty sure you can

[gilded sierra]

customknight allows you to change all of the knight's sprites entirely, so long as they are the same size as the original sprites

[dry snow]

Mhm

[tranquil wagon]

Oh

[late lodge]

but what are the random crystals for

i've speculated them to be the crystals when you reflect them

[dry snow]

Which ones

Oh probs crystal dash

[gilded sierra]

...cdash charging anim

[dry snow]

Yeah

[gilded sierra]

deflecting crystals from crystal hunters doesn't replace the sprite, it just turns the thing around

[dry snow]

Huh it does ?

That’s pretty interesting actually

[late lodge]

ah yeah never thought about that

[copper tulip]

And does anyone know what is the "Hit Crack Appear" animation

this one

[minor tinsel]

that one is just misc animations, i'm pretty sure

[viscid aspen]

hollow knight is fully open source right?

[swift bison]

No

[viscid aspen]

huh

[swift bison]

If it was, I don’t think it could cost money(?)

Most mods are though

[hexed nimbus]

it's just that there are tools to inspect how it could have looked like as a source

[viscid aspen]

i mean there are games that are open source and isnt free

idk tho

[swift bison]

Which games?

[hexed nimbus]

shapez.io for example

[weak plinth]

games being open source is pretty rare

[red salmon]

Do people use mods to get those clips without the knight in the picture? is there a way to make the knight go away or something?

[hexed nimbus]

debug mod:
backspace - make knight invisible
the 6 keys above the arrow keys - hud, viginette and zoom i think

[red salmon]

Oh cool, thanks

Haven't actually installed any mods yet, can you get them from the Steam Workshop, or are they generally just floating around the internet?

[hexed nimbus]

?i

[granite agate]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[hexed nimbus]

on the modinstaller

[red salmon]

Thanks

[dry snow]

btw if i'm making an evil customknight mod is it possible to put it in the official mods drive after it's done

mainly for evil% (casual) which was invented a day or 2 ago

[swift bison]

Is it a mod or a skin? If it’s a mod, just pr the modlinks https://github.com/ricardosouzag/ModInstaller/blob/master/modlinks.xml

[dry snow]

skin

[swift bison]

Skins don’t go on the mods drive

[dry snow]

i mean the customknight drive sorry

[swift bison]

Ah

Idk, sorry

[atomic ledge]

?mods

[granite agate]

Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1lnjtSYMfRe1LyA_qSq2CoXKI6NRm_I-e
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

[vagrant orbit]

DOOM, DOOM II, Ultimate DOOM. id was originally very pro open-source and copy-left

[crimson remnant]

that's a good texture pack.

[nimble lichen]

what skin is this ?

[crimson remnant]

Noriaki Kakyoin

[dry snow]

So I’m looking at the sprite sheets and I can’t help but wonder what lurien would be if they were a slug or just overall what to do with the slug animation

[nocturne sky]

Wdym

Making a lurien skin?

[atomic ledge]

Draw unn with lurien head instead of tk

[karmic umbra]

There's this part of me that wants to make a mimikyu skin for TK but I don't have the artistic talent, so it'd take me ages to pull it off

[dry snow]

Unn with lurien head

Also yeah

Also man I feel that you could always try though .nothing stoppin you from at least practicing ya know

[karmic umbra]

Yeah, maybe I'll try it some time, but with how long it's taking me just to do a simple recolor I don't think I'd be able to bring myself to finish
I'm using tools to make the recolor technically simple but having to do each individual sprite is eugh

[dry snow]

A quick way to recolor if your just recoloring would be to use a color filter to change it if the app allows it

[karmic umbra]

Unfortunately that doesn't really work for what I'm doing. I'm recoloring just the cloak so it'd mess with the rest of the sprite.

(Including the black outlines of the cloak, not just the gray parts)

So I have to manually free select each one. It's not complicated, just tedious.

[late lodge]

Here

[cerulean wigeon]

thanks

[karmic umbra]

And make sure that the folder you put in is the one containing the sprite sheets, and not a folder containing another folder.

[cerulean wigeon]

oh ok

[karmic umbra]

Also you can have multiple skins downloaded and can swap between them in game from the pause menu on the left.

[cerulean wigeon]

uhh another question: do i have to extract the file... im bad at this

[karmic umbra]

Technically? depending on your OS you usually can just copy the file from the Zip to the custom knight folder and it'll do fine.

[cerulean wigeon]

oh it has to be in the knight folder?

i just installed them...

[karmic umbra]

But if you wanna be safe, you can extract the files then copy it over. If your OS doesn't have the ability to extract them on it's own you could download something like 7zip

yeah, when you install the Custom Knight Mod through ModInstaller, it puts a Mods folder in your Hollow Knight files, and in there is a CustomKnight folder and that's where you put any skins you download

That message Ruttie referenced has a youtube video that should explain how to do it.

[cerulean wigeon]

like this?

[karmic umbra]

I think you need to extract the files from the .zip'd files but yeah that's where they go

[swift bison]

Extract those zip files

Also extra steps: the png files are probably in sub folders

Png files need to be directly in the skin folder

[cerulean wigeon]

aight... thanks again for the help

[vagrant orbit]

At some point within the last few months, someone posted a "tool" (I think it may have just been a .psd) that had the knight.png separated into clean layers, so that the cloak (and/or knight) could be very easily recolored.

Does anyone happen to have a link to that post, or the file saved and can repost it?

I tried searching both here and #archived-modding-development various ways for it, but I'm not managing to find it

[karmic umbra]

I think I remember seeing something like that for gimp in one of the skin bundles?

[vagrant orbit]

Idk why I didn't think to just search .psd originally
#archived-modding-development message

[karmic umbra]

ah different file glad you found it tho

[karmic umbra]

This is a really weird question, but what is the icon for ModInstaller2? I always see it as a ring but I don't actually think it is one

[weak plinth]

but in the stytle

[karmic umbra]

i kinda suspected something like that

[gilded sierra]

[karmic umbra]

do sprites like this one get used or am I fine to leave them alone? (On knight.png)

[minor tinsel]

that's used i think

for one of the void spells

[karmic umbra]

Alright, ty. I'll have to figure out what I'll do for those then

[karmic umbra]

Are the animations for your shade (left on death) just in the Knight.png or are those located in other files? I'd assume they're mostly on Knight.png but I'm not good at IDing what'd be the shade, what are some of the void spells/shade cloak, etc (I know there are some void spell sheets too but unsure how much crossing there is)

[minor tinsel]

the shade isn't on the knight spritesheet

i don't think there's currently any way to replace the shade with customknight

[hexed nimbus]

<@&283547423706447872> channel spammer <#modding-discussion message>

[hollow tundra]

Imagine moding HK into SS

[weak plinth]

imagine SS ever coming out

well all have our fantasies

[hollow tundra]

That's why I thought of that

It's the closest we'll ever come

[karmic umbra]

Silksong releases but it gets modded into HK

[indigo venture]

is there a public skin that looks like something from the colosseum of fools?

[minor tinsel]

there's a challenge skin

called the fool skin

the challenge itself is not that hard, but there's some rng at the end

check pins to see the challenge reqs

[weak plinth]

there's also a zote skin

he's in the colosseum.

[indigo venture]

thank you, i'll look into it!

does the challenge have to be completed on current patch?

and also are mods allowed to be activated?

or should i use my 1221 non-modded install for the challenge?

[vagrant orbit]

I'm pretty sure it's for current patch

and no mods that affect gameplay (like QoL). Probably no mods at all would be safest

[indigo venture]

alright, i'll disable the modding api on my cp install, thank you!

[atomic ledge]

I think you have to wear twp skin and do it

Qol doesnt affect colo anyways i think

[hollow tundra]

I'm already done with the Enemy Randomiser mod

I play for a minute and see a Watcher Knight

[minor tinsel]

only mods allowed are customknight and the hpbar
and you have to use customknight, so yeah

[indigo venture]

wait what i just did it without customknight took kind of a long time

i really don't want to do it again

and it doesn't say that on the rules doc

[random elk]

Did you juggle zote?

[indigo venture]

oh crap

do you have to not let him touch the ground?

read that wrong

have to do it again ig lol

[swift bison]

Oof

[indigo venture]

and do i have to use a custom skin?

[swift bison]

Iirc yes, it’s in the rules

You need a skin by twp

[indigo venture]

grimm knight it is lol

[random elk]

The skin rule is for oringi skin

[indigo venture]

and one more thing - when zote spawns, do you have to stop him from hitting the ground after coming out of the cage and before he does his yell, or only after the yell?

oh so i don't need to use a custom skin?

[random elk]

You can't stop him from hitting the ground before the yell

So he can't touch the ground after he takes damage

[minor tinsel]

you need to use a twp skin for all challenges

afaik

oh huh it doesn't say that for fool skin challenge
nvm

[indigo venture]

also, in Benji#0790 (the person it says to contact when you complete the challenge) in this server? i can't DM anyone that's not in a server i'm in

[weak plinth]

I hope so, considering they're a server admin

[silent elm]

how long does it usually take for more custom skin challenges to release

[indigo venture]

ugh, juggling zote is so hard. i wish there was a way i could practice. i've beaten trial1 like ten times now and every time i drop zote in less than five nail hits lol

[tight wagon]

Does anyone who uses the VibrationMod have any criticisms or feedback they would like to share?

[random elk]

You can practice in external ordeal

[dim kraken]

Cornifer just sold me Herrah for 90 geo
Excuse me but how did he get his hands on the life of one of the most powerful non-higher beings in Hallownest

[indigo venture]

ooohhhh good idea, thank you!

[minor tinsel]

i'd also recommend using abyss shriek, it does more damage and can knock zote out of the minions' attacks

[nimble lichen]

looking at your message I was wondering if it was doable easily and got this up, I've raised a PR to CustomKnight so hopefully this should be possible soon !

[nimble lichen]

oops meant to reply to this one

[karmic umbra]

Oh cool. So just to make sure I understand, with the base files that Custom Knight makes available, it can't be done, but obviously there are sheets for the shade that can be extracted for edits?

also omg Bunny Knight is adorable, i love it

[nimble lichen]

yes yes there is a sheet and once my PR is merged (hopefully) , CK will also be able to replace Shade, i'll share the base sprite as soon as i'm able to upload it, have spotty internet ATM.

[karmic umbra]

Awesome to hear, thanks a lot

[nimble lichen]

No worries, just share any cool skins you make with the rest of us 😛
also, here's the Shade.png : https://drive.google.com/file/d/11t3HzzZlLfpPyGTDrmKk9IFgDHGlRBfQ/view?usp=sharing

[karmic umbra]

Yeah, right now I'm just doing a recolor of one of The White Palace's skin packs cause it'd take me ages to make something of my own i'd be proud of. I'll probably share results here when I've made more progress with it, as I'm only about 1/3'd of the way down the knight.png sheet and still have to do several other sprites sadly since I can't "fill in the gaps" myself the skin is gonna have some inconsistencies between where it's the skin (LichOne's HorNight skin if you're curious) and the base TK sprites.

[indigo venture]

Is it possible to edit the shade’s particle effects using customknight? I wanted to turn it white and make it into a SOUL being, but I don’t think it’ll work if the particle effects are still black.

[nimble lichen]

Not atm, I could look into it after work today

But how would we get the color from the skin though ? A text file with color value?

[light wagon]

Does a mod that lets you interrupt dash with another action exist?

[late lodge]

?

you mean dash cancel

if so no

[gilded sierra]

technically you can open inv mid-dash in vanilla

[light wagon]

huh i wonder if it would be hard to implement

[late lodge]

probably

[tight wagon]

By interrupting dash, what exactly are you looking for? I imagine that it wouldn't be too hard to make, maybe make it to where if you press dash again you stop? It's something I could look at

[random elk]

there was a celeste mod someone made that allowed you jump out of a dash

#modding-discussion message

[indigo venture]

woah, so it lets you do superdashes in hollow knight?

[indigo venture]

i’m... not really sure, i’m new to modding and customknight. but thank you!

[cerulean spear]

idk anything about modding so im gonna leave a suggestion here
the xbox and ps4 hollow knight files are blocked by the console's system, but the hk for pc gamepass files are accessible, so you could actually make a mod installer for pc gamepass then adapt for consoles or idk

maybe im talking shit

[gilded sierra]

windows protects the files for gamepass edition

[gilded sierra]

console is also not the same release as game pass

[cerulean spear]

ok :/

[ornate fractal]

Can any of y'all recommend a fun mod to play?

[silver garden]

#randomizer

[atomic ledge]

Any radiance

[jovial mantle]

can i get the speedrunning role

[late lodge]

#speedrunning

And the pins there

[dry snow]

1. In speedrunning, 2. You need a submited rum

[nimble nest]

@everyone anyone wants to play multiplayer?

[late lodge]

why

[vagrant orbit]

Why would you attempt to ping everyone

[late lodge]

that would ping 100.000 people if it worked

[vagrant orbit]

Like, you wouldn't expect it to work on any competently run server, but still, why

[nimble nest]

bro im sorry if i made a mistake

[vagrant orbit]

At any rate, if you're looking for a Multiplayer group, you may want to try asking on one of the Multiplayer servers, for better results.
There's a server for the original Multiplayer mod by Jngo (the one on ModInstaller), and there's one for HKMP. The HKMP is still a small server though, so it currently isn't super active with people looking to play.

[nimble nest]

can u give me the links?

[vagrant orbit]

Or if you're looking to play MultiWorld, then try HollowKnight Racing

[nimble nest]

...

[vagrant orbit]

I don't feel comfortable just posting server links on a big server, as that's usually frowned upon, but they're pretty easy to find.

• HKMP links to its support server on the main GitHub for it: https://github.com/Extremelyd1/HKMP
• Fireb0rn links to the primary Multiplayer Mod in the description of his Multiplayer Mod tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSOqacQx4Ls
• And I actually don't remember where I found the link to HollowKnight Racing

[nimble nest]

thanks

[gilded sierra]

hkr is pinned in #randomizer

[late lodge]

what wrong with links to servers...

have i not read the rules??

[gilded sierra]

brb posting a link for everyone to join my own server in #off-topic

[late lodge]

No spamming or advertising. oh...

is it considered advertising?

[gilded sierra]

yes

[late lodge]

good to know

[swift bison]

F, Mebi died of advertising

[late lodge]

who mebi

[swift bison]

:(

Really good artist for pale court and other mods

And non mod stuff

[late lodge]

why he die of advertising

[swift bison]

Posting links related to discussions, seems to be considered advertising

They got muted for a day, and eventually banned

[abstract tendon]

Can't have shit in hollownest

[vagrant orbit]

I downloaded the newest release of ModInstaller2, and launched it, and spent like 2 minutes wondering why it was taking so long to open up...

It turns out that it actually opened very quickly, but 56 fixed/removed the Command Prompt part of it, and my shortcut that opens MI2 specifically set it to run "minimized" just to hide the extra window. So the installer just started minimized

I guess what I'm trying to say is, thank you for the update, 56
||I'm pretty sure at this point, the only things MI2 is missing are: Button to open Mod Folder; and the Ability to detect/show manually installed Mods. Until Jaime has time again to return to ModManager and full profiles become a thing ||

[late lodge]

<#art-discussion message> ?

that mebi?

[swift bison]

Yes

[late lodge]

readme

[light wagon]

I personally come from a game with way too many options out of dash: jump, momentum cancel (by pressing the "back" direction), primary attack and secondary attack (both make you start falling), collide with object, and nothing, but implementing that sounds like a lot of work

[vagrant orbit]

Oh yeah. But really, who needs a ReadMe button, when Mulhima's got the doc?
Maybe MI2 can just have a button to open the doc

[late lodge]

smart

[swift bison]

No more downloading readmes 🤔

[late lodge]

less file size

[dry snow]

what are yalls favorite custom knight skins

[late lodge]

saphire

[dry snow]

Saphire?

I will check it out

[vagrant orbit]

Stary

[dry snow]

I will also check that one out

ok

thanks

[vagrant orbit]

I keep wanting to work on making a skin, but I need to figure out an ideal way to make the edits and see how they look in-game. I have figured out how to open the GoDump assets in Krita, but haven't figured out how to properly use Spritepacker to get them bakc in the game to test.

[dry snow]

maybe you can give a copy of all the images to someone who knows how, and they can do it.

ok, so now I have two contestants, stary knight and grimm knight

hmmmmmm

I think I still like grimm knight more, but stary knight is still good

[late lodge]

no saphire

[dry snow]

I looked at fires vid

didnt see saphire

[late lodge]

check the pins

[dry snow]

ok

[late lodge]

the 2 drives are pinned

loads of skins

[dry snow]

k

Im looking now

[late lodge]

_ _

[dry snow]

are you sure its called saphire? Because I looked in both of the links, and there were none called that. Maybe its lapis?

[late lodge]

double p?

lemme look

[nimble lichen]

i think custom knight reloads the sprites every time you click the menu icon so you could just keep saving the file in there and keep the game running in the background to save atleast that step

[late lodge]

double p

sapphire

[hexed nimbus]

sapp hire

[dry snow]

alright, I'll look now

ok

oh, its a big file

oh wow

oooooooh wow

Im sorry stary, move over

Sapphire has me heart now

[late lodge]

amazing

[dry snow]

damn, a lot of effort went into making this skin huh

[late lodge]

its my favo

[vagrant orbit]

My issue is more of I prefer using the spliced assets that you get from GoDump (as opposed to the full atlas files), but then they need to be restitched together. And I haven't bothered to learn spritepacker to do that lol
It is a completely a me-being-too-lazy-to-learn problem

[dry snow]

its like a lifeblood thing

wow

[vagrant orbit]

The majority of TWP skins are very high-effort. And they're amazing.

[late lodge]

also try Daughter of Hallownest

its hornet

but smol

[dry snow]

oh, I already have that one, I love it

[viscid aspen]

mine

[dry snow]

I notice with custom knight that when Oro and Mato use their nail arts, it's the same color that your character does... is this a bug?

[errant lance]

no

[eager bay]

custom knight changes your character's sprites and some of these sprites are shared with bosses

[nimble lichen]

I looked into this, the particles should also be skin-able soon. the particles are just another png file. once the new PR is also merged and a release is made, it would be supported in CK. the 'sprite' is just a circle lol
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ezoqkwtrif7_bJuS85FiE7VDS5icB6_t/view?usp=sharing

[nimble lichen]

although imo the white shade looks better when not fully opaque

[dry snow]

hey, I wanted to play some overhaul mods for hollow knight (dont recommend hollow point, tried it, didn't really like it all that much)
Should I play Blackmoth, redwing, or lightbringer

[dry snow]

Hey, how do I make a skin? Do I take a sprite sheet, change what I want and put it back on the game archives?

[gilded sierra]

you may want to check out spritepacker from the pins

there's also a Knight.zip, which contains all sprites organised into each animation and in order

[dry snow]

Aight, thanks

[indigo venture]

holy crap, that looks so good! would you be willing to send me the files for that so i can use it?

oh right, you have to update ck, sorry

but thank you very much for looking into that for me!

[nimble lichen]

i can DM you the CK build i have locally & the sprites i'm using atm

[indigo venture]

that'd be cool, thank you!

[vagrant orbit]

@nimble lichen If you're making some QoL updates for CustomKnight, I have two suggestions to possibly look into:

• Adjust the position and scale of the Skin Names in the pause menu (currently, they very quickly take up a large part of the screen, which causes them to easily overlap with over mod overlays, like Benchwarp and Debug).

• See if you can't find a way to fix the missing-geo problem. At one point, someone told me that it was caused by the mod trying to load too-much at one time, and essentially failing to reload the geo sprite. A lot of people claim that putting the default geo.png into the folder of skins that are missing it fixes it, but from what I can tell, this isn't actually true (or at least, it can still fail). What I have found to consistently work, is to change skins in a small room with no enemies/geo around, such as stag stations; this seems to always prevent loading issues, and thus leads me to believe that the memory issue is accurate. I'm unfamiliar with exactly how CK works to hotswap the assets, but if there's a way to slow down the process, or run a verification check at the end to see if anything is missing and correct it, then it seems like it'd be fine.

[nimble lichen]

sure i'll check them out , if nothing else we can always add a hotkey key to show hide the skin picker

the geo issue is a mystery to me, it's implemented a bit differently than the other sprites so that's probably why this happens to geo specifically but beyond that it'll be something to explore for me aswell

[desert sandal]

does anyone know why sprite packer has suddenly stopped launching, it crashed last night and then won't launch anymore and I'm at a loss

[desert sandal]

I just wanted to know where sprite boundaries were

[indigo venture]

custom skin idea i’m not skilled enough to make: ellina the chronicler from the wanderer’s journal

[hybrid fox]

Anyone Know how to use the "GIMP Cloak Customization" custom Skin?
I'm trying to make 4 simple custom skins with custom cloak colors.

[vagrant orbit]

If you want I can make them really quick, just lmk the 4 colors you want. There's a .psd that is setup to just recolor the cloak that I am using.

This is a link to the .psd and instructions, if you want to use it instead: #archived-modding-development message

[hybrid fox]

Thanks for the help; I'm going to learn how to do it myself so I don't bother you in the future.

We getting full blown alt skins like it's super smash brothers or something

[viscid aspen]

can any staff pin this

[versed vigil]

i think i have this glitch b/c ive been tryin to fo delicate flower quest and i did it like 5 times now i think its becasue of my mods but idk, does anyone have advice

[tight wagon]

Is there a mod that allows me to skip the first half of a given pantheon?

Like to the first resting area

[atomic ledge]

No

[little owl]

guys i just got the best idea ever

HOLLOW DOOM SLAYER!

it would be a perfect skin

i wish someone make one

because i am bad at drawing

[karmic umbra]

Pair it with HollowPoint

[desert sandal]

I figured out my problem with sprite packer, there was accidentally an extra space in a folder name. This was making it crash when trying to launch ^-^'
That took a while, but yay I figured it out

[random elk]

Debug mod

[hexed nimbus]

this is a more manual method though

[random elk]

It's a method atleast

[lean jolt]

If this is something you looked into, I heard that, when playing rando, if you find a check that spawns (preloaded) geo coins then it fixes the problem - in fact some invisible geo that had spawned from an enemy death appeared when a check that spawned geo was collected.

I'm not sure how helpful that information is, ColetteMSLP is the one who spotted it

[crimson remnant]

jojo reference

[viscid aspen]

if you pirate the game u cant mod it

only if you buy the game on steam or gog

[versed remnant]

The free version?

[quartz glade]

there is no legal "free version"

[late lodge]

[versed remnant]

You might wanna delete that “free version”

[late lodge]

virusses

[viscid aspen]

virsus

[late lodge]

no

[viscid aspen]

yes

[late lodge]

no

[versed remnant]

Being short of money doesn’t grant you permission to pirate games

[quartz glade]

yeah, but they already bought it on PS4. Getting another copy for modding is fine if you asked me

[late lodge]

lets just stop we said no before the mods come

since this is a bit off-topic

[versed remnant]

Wrong channel

[viscid aspen]

wut

[versed remnant]

#archived-modding-help

[vagrant orbit]

You literally won't get help here for modding the game if you're using a pirated version

[versed remnant]

^

[dry snow]

Heyo, how the heck does spritepacker work

[desert sandal]

there's a pinned message with a video tutorial!

[dry snow]

I literally watched the video 4 times already

Wait, I think I found the problem

[desert sandal]

oh, well that's all I've got really I've only just started myself (I broke sprite packer and spent around 6 hours fixing)

[dry snow]

Are you meant to download both the atlases and the sprites

[desert sandal]

Yes

[late lodge]

no

[dry snow]

Being stupid hurts

[late lodge]

you use GODump

thats what its for

[desert sandal]

They have the dumped files in a drive that you can grab

[late lodge]

but why

GODump deserves more attentions

[dry snow]

You're speaking chinese to me

[desert sandal]

there's a mod that dumps the sprites for you, or you can grab the sprites from the drive link

[dry snow]

aight, I'm downloading them now

What do I do after that

[late lodge]

it maybe crashes the game

[desert sandal]

do you know where the sprite folder goes?

If you can get the entire drive for sprites to download you can just extract it to there, I had to download the sub folders and it was a process

[dry snow]

I have no experience with this, therefore the only thing that I actually know is how to draw sprites

[desert sandal]

Fair, first things first are you on windows because I don't know how to get there on a Mac

[dry snow]

I'm on windows. I should probably mention I don't have HK on pc, therefore I won't be able to even test the skin

[desert sandal]

That may be a problem because it expects you too, but I mean I can cheese it

[dry snow]

Aight, sprites finished downloading. what now

[desert sandal]

I'm never sure how to explain navigating in file explorer because this is really nested

You'll need to go to Os(C:)> Users> [your user]> AppData>LocalLow

[dry snow]

how do I explain this...
My computer doesn't have an AppData folder