yeah ive tried that but i dont get it.
#speedrunning
hearty adder
what is it that you don't understand about the guide? like what step are you stuck at
sage quiver
Is using a mixture of keyboard and controller allowed?
timid edge
fireborn does it- or at least he did in his speedrunning tutorial. but im not sure if it still is allowed. im guessing it is but check the rules.
true palm
Is using a mixture of keyboard and controller allowed?
yes
sage quiver
Awesome. I'm trying to figure out a hybrid because my directional buttons can get a little annoying
timid edge
i still havent gotten help- but its fine ill probably figure it out
true palm
the steam folder is in your program files
give me one sec
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\content
is the default install of your downpatch
true palm
Awesome. I'm trying to figure out a hybrid because my directional buttons can ge...
have you tried socd cleaner?
true palm
what do i do once i open that?-
thats covered in the multiple install section of the downpatching guide
true palm
Awesome. I'm trying to figure out a hybrid because my directional buttons can ge...
SOCD Cleaner for reference allows your keyboard inputs to override each other, ie if you hold left and tap right, you will turn around right for a sec instead of standing still, good for fireball skips, it should be in #resources
sage quiver
That's another thing I was thinking about. Tysm!
true palm
ye no problem, it just makes input handling as a whole better
sage quiver
For sure. The only other input I need to remap is cdash (it's currently on L2 on my ps4 controller
I'm thinking WASD for direction and either z or spacebar for cdash
Probably the latter
true palm
the only thing with that is you spam cdash during the uumuu fight
to slide on the wall slowly
sage quiver
Ohhh true
true palm
i would still bind it on right hand personally, if you have ur right hand pointer resting on j, i found y to be a comfortable spot
sage quiver
Hmmm
true palm
you can obviously play around with it
it just matches the typing scheme for me pretty well so its comfy
sage quiver
Yeah, I was thinking left hand keyboard right hand controller for now to see how it feels
true palm
oh gotchya
in that case, id probably move heal to left hand
since you never use it while moving
sage quiver
That's a good call
true palm
dnail falls under a similar boat but you'll be using it more often, especially if you move to any of the longer categories
true palm
oh gotchya, i liked cast on right bumper when i ran controller
sage quiver
So R1 cdash would work
true palm
but cheart on right bumper would work well
sage quiver
I had R1 cast for a while, but mapping it to a face button felt more comfortable
true palm
i just liked it for nail cancels on bumper
baby hands hated moving from square to circle
muted parcel
guys can I run all skils on ps4?
hearty adder
you can run any category either on pc or console
what you can't do on console is play on older patches, you're restricted to current patch only
muted parcel
thx
arctic orbit
currently trying to complete blue lake shade skip
for the first time
will send clip when i finally do it
YAYYY
arctic orbit
lapis folio
can i still download the api mod when im downpatched? I want to practice the skips and techs
arctic orbit
hearty adder
can i still download the api mod when im downpatched? I want to practice the ski...
You need to get the appropriate version of the modding api and mods for the patch you're using
Should be in #resources
cyan girder
I've been taking Deepnest route. I should really practice that though. It's a faster route.
Nice work
viscid axle
so i was searching for a way to make my downpatched version save to a different place than the up to date one
havent found a way to do it online so i asume its not possible
just wanted to ask to be sure
snow dome
just wanted to ask to be sure
Sending a ping just in case
digital jewel
If you mean the game saves, no I don't think there's a way
All versions use the same save files
viscid axle
thank you for the quick answers
wanton cedar
Hello, it's me, TAS, god gamer.
snow dome
steady lynx
Tami shows no mercy anymore
snow dome
New server new me
wanton cedar
Tami shows no mercy anymore
Dude do you know what i did wrong?
steady lynx
No idea, I'm not really active here anymore
hearty adder
What the fuck he actually blocked me.
Tami uses it/its or they/them btw
prime python
so I'm playing the mod "Test of teamwork" right now, and I think it would be cool if it would be added to the hollow knight mods extention on speedrun.com, because it's a kinda harder version of PoP or white palace
true palm
the general rule of thumb for getting a category added is finding people who want to run it
usually 3 or more works
haughty fossil
hkmods is a bit unique because of how few people run it, and the way it was started assuming people would run categories that uh, nobody has 
wicked trench
Dude do you know what i did wrong?
What about "general discussion about Hollow Knight speedrunning" didn't you get? Every time I come here to see if people need help getting into speedrunning I see people trolling, and it's pretty tilting not gonna lie. That's why a lot of speedrunners don't even read this channel anymore
I can totally understand Tami here
wanton cedar
Well i usually come here to discuss possible ideas, was just a quick joke, no trolling.
knotty vigil
help? for a speedrun run, how do you turn modding api off?
formal bough
if you are on steam, you verify integrity of game files (in properties, local files)
knotty vigil
i am on gog, sadly.
stuck raptor
gog galaxy also has this
knotty vigil
well my gog is glitched, i can't open it.
stuck raptor
stuck raptor
redownload galaxy
haughty fossil
ingame time tries to be loadless but its not very good at it, so we don't use it
it also removes all time spent in pause and main menus
digital jewel
it counts loads but not credits
knotty vigil
Thank you so much 
true palm
in game timer also has heart attacks fyi on older patches, my average low% run according to In Game Timer is about 6 seconds
true palm
ye, it should be fine
you can also use https://one.livesplit.org/ on your phone, its got splits and stuff, and even if its just for fun, its pretty cool
true palm
its not loadless, but it works the same outside of that
haughty fossil
(worth noting livesplit one here is just a glorified timer, still starting and stopping yourself, but it means at least you can set up splits to track timeloss across the run rather than just an end time)
true palm
^
knotty vigil
wanton cedar
Is there any category for any% with all powerups and charms enabled?
stuck raptor
no
hearty adder
it's called True Ending All Glitches 
/jk
haughty fossil
the closest thing to new game plus runs there are is TE AG, which uses godhome main menu storage to enter king's pass on a godhome save then does true ending
wow i am being snailed a lot today 
y'all win
knotty vigil
gog galaxy also has this
where does it?
hearty adder
I see.
there's a "new game +" file on #resources somewhere, but iirc nobody ended up doing anything with it really
but yeah, closest thing would be probably TE AG
stuck raptor
knotty vigil
@stuck raptor now what? i've verified them and it still says modding api in the corner
sorry for ping, figured it out.
true palm
for future reference this highlighted file found in /hollow_knight_Data/Managed is what determines modded/unmodded
so you can back it up so you don't have to verify game files every time
barren fiber
hi guys what category would you advice to practice for a newcomer? either the easiest one or the one that can teach the most
hearty adder
both any% and all skills are usually recommended for beginners
any% is shorter but has tougher boss fights, all skills is longer but most of the difficulty lays on the movement (though hornet2 can be a pain)
and also both categories count with a lot of resources
barren fiber
both any% and all skills are usually recommended for beginners
i'll look int any% cp nmg then, thanks
true palm
if you're running current patch any%'s the best
all skills on current patch is kinda meh
barren fiber
ye idk how to feel about downpatching, i'll think about it
true palm
plus the main road block for noobies tends to be Watcher Knights, which are a lot easier on current patch
barren fiber
plus the main road block for noobies tends to be Watcher Knights, which are a lo...
relatable
barren fiber
life long convo for every game hahahaha
true palm
that being said i'd opt into the 1.4.3.2 patch with the beta branch for a lot of categories, its pretty easy
still up to you
barren fiber
categories are there for a reason arent they
barren fiber
that being said i'd opt into the 1.4.3.2 patch with the beta branch for a lot of...
what's the difference from normal 1.4.3.2?
true palm
the main difference is spore shroom, a very beginner friendly route
THK on 1.4.3.2 takes a lot of damage from spore shroom
snow dome
Also 1432 isn't broken.
hearty adder
what's the difference from normal 1.4.3.2?
regular 1432 is both for 64bits and 32bits, iirc the 1432 on the beta branch is 32bits only
snow dome
I have no idea how 1.5.75 is at this point
true palm
they fixed 1.5 today right?
hearty adder
but opting in on beta patches makes it so the game doesn't automatically update, iirc
true palm
regular 1432 is both for 64bits and 32bits, iirc the 1432 on the beta branch is ...
idr exactly how to do it
hearty adder
they fixed 1.5 today right?
.75 came out like a few days ago, i haven't seen anyone complaining about anything game-breaking yet
which is definitely a step up from the other ones
true palm
what's the difference from normal 1.4.3.2?
Regardless, at the end of the day, fireb0rn's 1.2.2.1 any% guide coupled with the CP any% guide will give you a great idea of the route, and then you can opt into which one you want
its a lot easier to watch the guides, and then see if you think having the skips available in 1.2.2.1 will make the game more fun to run
barren fiber
wait cp is not runned in the most recent update?
hearty adder
cp can be run from 1432 and up
true palm
1.4 and 1.5 are so similar they lumped them together
theres 0 route changes (outside of sporeshroom)
barren fiber
oh ok make sense
hearty adder
1432 was current patch for like two years, and 1.4 and 1.5 aren't all that different, plus anyone on a 32bit system can't run on 1.5
but also if you're on 32bit windows i'm so sorry
barren fiber
dont think i am
true palm
theres a lot of factors that went into the decision, and regardless of whether or not people think 1.4 IS current patch, they are on the same leaderboard
honestly, just start with 1.5, or whatever you have, as you learn the route, if you decide that you'd rather do something thats 1.2.2.1 exclusive you can swap
barren fiber
on speedrun.com im seeing the shade soul route, is the same as the spore shroom as you guys where saying or its another thing? couse its just 1 month old
in the guides
true palm
shade soul loses multiple minutes
it is probably the most beginner friendly strat you can do while staying in the same realm as any%
snow dome
Shade Soul is beginner mode, whereas Spore Shroom is competitive for a top time.
I think it's still slower? But I'm not sure. It's by like less than a minute slower, though
true palm
spore shroom loses about 10 seconds optimally
barren fiber
oh ok pog i'll start with that, couse i'm also seeing most splits are the same, mostly the mid part is different
hearty adder
however, it should be noted again that sporeshroom route does not work on 1.5, since thk's hitboxes got fixed
true palm
shade soul route is VERY different from the main route
the appeal is to make watchers easier
i'd try out the watcher knights fight FIRST, and then try shade soul personally
barren fiber
shade soul route is VERY different from the main route
the guide notes the splits that are the same as the optimal run and they look like a lot, like two thirds
true palm
they're done in a VERY different order
barren fiber
its just a big detour to pick shadesoul
true palm
with lots of geo changes
you have to collect an additional 1000 geo, do the Lemm, Lantern, and CHeart portion of the run earlier, go back to city to get shade soul, and then do watchers, and then its back to the same route
a large portion of the run is changed, while its not to the degree of like Any% Steel Soul level of rerouting, its still pretty different
the route is done to make watchers easier, and it does accomplish that well
as a byproduct it makes the rest of the run after more forgiving
it depends on your end goal honestly, if you don't plan to push your any% time too far, just do whatever you want, but if you want your any% time to become competitive eventually, i'd see if you need to use a beginner strat before you implement it
knotty vigil
I pulled off the vengeful spirit greenpath skip (never attempted a speedrun before, and then ruined the run by dying immediately afterwards. Life is fun.
barren fiber
guys is there any place i can find recomanded hotkeys? i play withkeyboard
knotty vigil
wdym by recommended hotekeys?
haughty fossil
lots of people use default w/ inv on v, but ultimately binds come down to your preference for what your hands feel comfortable resting on
barren fiber
snow dome
I use 0-6 on NUM pad For various actions, WASD for movement, tab for focus, space for quick map
barren fiber
guys i'm trying to downpatch to 1.4.3.2 but cant finde the depot code, any help?
asking a lot of question today sorry hahaha
wicked trench
steam -> Hollow Knight -> properties -> betas
barren fiber
steam -> Hollow Knight -> properties -> betas
so i dont need to go through the console at all?
wicked trench
hold on, I may have missed something
are you on console?
barren fiber
no no im talking about the steam console
im following both the xero and fireborn tutorial but none of those have the code for 1.4.3.2
if i use your metod do i just skip the console part?
wicked trench
I honestly don't know what you are referring to: my computer knowledge isn't this deep
I can tell you for a fact that what I've written earlier works (I just checked)
but I've no idea what a "console part" is sorry :(
digital jewel
there's a beta option in steam for 1432
so you could download it through the console but it'd be more complicated than necessary
I should add a section in the guide for 1432
barren fiber
there's a beta option in steam for 1432
yo, so if i just do it though the steam option i can skip that part of the tutorial right?
i dont need to do anything with the console
digital jewel
yep
wicked trench
gotta thanks Xero, I didn't understood what you meant AHAH
Have a great time :D
snow dome
Go team!
honest salmon
nice thanks
The whole console thing was for further down patching and it is outdated that is why it wouldn’t work
haughty fossil
no, the console method still works, and it can be used to downpatch to 1.4.3.2
honest salmon
Oh because in fireborns video it said it was outdated with the steam console and there was another video in the description which is what I used to get 1.2.2.1
And he said he was on the steam consol
haughty fossil
yeah the method fire used was broken for a while, but using an additional program made by 56 you can fix it. depotdownloader is still better though
both methods are covered in the guide on speedrun.com. i'd recommend looking there rather than any videos that may be outdated.
honest salmon
Fireborns video had I link in the description to a non outdated video that worked downloading a few thing and then using the computer console not steam console I think the steam console version is still outdated
But you could be correct I don’t know
hearty adder
Probably better to check the downpatching guide before making claims
honest salmon
I know that is why I said they could be right because I am not bothered to check
sharp veldt
If you use the downpatcher from the guides section on speedrun . com, you can then use the depot download method like normal.
haughty fossil
iirc one is after broken vessel
steady lynx
So you'd kill BV, get that one and then just leave without wings, that's kinda funny
At least you can quick kill THK on comfy patch
final lichen
hey so i play on ps4 rather than pc and i was wondering if it's possible to downpatch on non-pc places?
keen rivet
from what I can find on google, it appears as though it's not possible
however, I may be wrong
haughty fossil
yeah not possible on any non-pc platform
the only patch that exists for consoles is 1.4.3.2 (/1.4.3.3 on ps but that one is functionally the same)
true palm
Has anyone done low% mister mushroom?
the one thing going for any% mr mushroom is that you just do the any% route for most of the run, so you can do the homothety thing where you run any% and if it goes wrong you do mr mushroom, with low% its optimal to 1) run on current patch which is cursed 2) pick up sporeshroom 12 minutes into the run, and 3) there was some other cursed movement that idr
i might be wrong on the current patch to be fair, i never labbed it extensively, but the timesave on THK would be so massive its hard to not see it saving time over dreamer cutscenes and stuff
sage quiver
How long does it usually take to get a run verified on src? I'm anxious about mine because anxiety 😅
vital geyser
anywhere from a few days to over a week
if you are anxious about your run not getting verified because it might've been rejected, do not worry because rejected runs also have a notification
they just haven't gotten to it yet because src mods are real people with real obligations
honest salmon
whenever i speedrun i always get stuck on watcher knights does anyon ehave any tips?
snow dome
git gud
It's v hard
If you've watched the tutorials on it, it's literally just "Keep trying until you get it".
I'm assuming you're doing any%.
There is a route that gets Shade Soul. Your time will not be competitive for a top spot if you take that route, obviously, but it could be good to try out.
I fully got Descending Dark on my first Any%, so don't be worried about that sort of thing to make it easier for yourself, especally if you're the kind of person who benefits from seeing some progress. Finishing a run can be a really big factor in helping you push through hard sections. "My time isn't great, but I know I can do better here, so I'll practice that bit..."
Over time you'll get better at movement and fights.
And it will become easier.
sage quiver
That's the perfect way of looking at it. Any% is any% for a reason - you can literally finish however is comfortable for you
You don't have to route it the same way as the top runners
sage quiver
they just haven't gotten to it yet because src mods are real people with real ob...
I know that and I wasn't trying to sound rude or impatient; my mind just defaults to "oh h*ck did I do something wrong" especially because this is my very first submission
snow dome
You very likely didn't.
If you still have an original recording of it (or the stream is still up on twitch/youtube etc.) then the most common problems are things like "You did not include this bit in your clip" and you can retrim it.
sage quiver
Okay dope. Thank you ♡♡♡
hollow nova
can you spore skip on current patch?
snow dome
You mean down to Mantis Village?
Yes, but it's different to the 1221 setup, so you will need to specifically check the current patch version.
safe pagoda
Does anyone know how the fps impacts the game physics? I get like 600 fps and I know runners use rivatuner sometimes to cap it at like 300. Does the fps impact timings majorly?
steady lynx
Some enemies move faster on higher fps
Around 500 or so fps the follies in soul sanctum become unbearably fast
safe pagoda
I would imagine qga and explosion pogo are also harder on high fps?
safe pagoda
interesting, when I learn that part ill play around with vsync toggling I guess
steady lynx
May I interest you in comfypogo?
safe pagoda
I noticed it with a friend of mine who has lower fps, he seems to have a much larger window that the game will buffer inputs such as jumping. But It could also be input lag related so its hard to judge
safe pagoda
May I interest you in comfypogo?
never heard of it xD
safe pagoda
Thanks
tribal igloo
the one thing going for any% mr mushroom is that you just do the any% route for ...
Don’t you need trampass and stuff as well?
true palm
Don’t you need trampass and stuff as well?
you already get trampass in the standard low% route
knotty vigil
I know this is probably a really bad idea, but I want to get into speedruning and I want to Speedrun Low% Godhome Ending specifically. Any tips?
wicked trench
If I were in you I'd join the speedrun Discord (you can find the link in the sidebar of speedrun.com) and ask under #low%
First of because that category is runned by few people, and second because your question is too general that it's hard to help you 
knotty vigil
Thanks for the information!
elfin vortex
Lmao thx mods!
strange gale
can somebody explain me seer skip I always end up 1 step away from entering the other room. Am i now fast enough after pause?
After I pause I just mash dash and hold left right?
Nvm I did it
wicked trench
Just for the record ghoul: that's tight in current patch, so don't surprise too much if sometimes you fail it
strange gale
I got white screen why does that happen
stuck raptor
you didn't stand up after seer skip
strange gale
No I mean I got white screen durring the skip lmao
Instead of black screen I got white screen soft lock
stuck raptor
you're using saves states right
stuck raptor
yeah, so you probably didn't stand up in the room after and then reloaded save state, so the bug happened
white screen happens when leaving a dream sequence if you don't stand up after the seer skip
strange gale
Ok so that wont happen when I do real runs without mods
stuck raptor
shouldn't
strange gale
k thx
wicked trench
stable quarry
I have a verified All Skills NMG run and would like to get the speedrunner role. My speedrun.com user is called Ekkoet01.
elfin vortex
We dont really do that here anymore. Theres an new speedrunning server linked on the src page
hearty adder
Also linked on the pins
stable quarry
src?
stable quarry
oh ok, maybe someone should update the rules and info then?
boreal jetty
Is there an advantage to using d-pad over analog stick or is it just preference
stable quarry
I think its just prefferance but if I try playing with analog stick it ushally doesen't go well
stuck raptor
dpad has smaller thumb travel distance for input registering. dpad also has zero chance of the input going the opposite direction like analog does if you release the stick. dpad directional registry is also more precise b/c there's only 4 inputs
but really it's just preference
digital jewel
oh ok, maybe someone should update the rules and info then?
only admins can do that
stable quarry
That makes sense
prime python
so, let's say that I'm doing an any% run, but get a really good mwc, and want to turn the run into an aluba%, but I don't have the split. can I just submit it and let the mods split it or do i need to have an extra split?
digital jewel
we can find the time manually
just look at the frame that the autosplit would usually trigger
prime python
so it's ok to just submit the run like that and let the mods do the rest
digital jewel
yea
normal aspen
If you have ordered splits off u can prob also just put an aluba (killed) split in there and then just don't save the gold when you get it
charred flare
honest salmon
i just completed a speedrun in 51 minutes but i wasn't recording because i was practising
😦
snow dome
If it was only practice imagine how powerful you will be when you do it for real!
honest salmon
thanks
modern orchid
What is the name of the timer speedrunners use, I wanna try speedrunning (meme categories first)
weary root
livesplit it's in the pins
modern orchid
livesplit it's in the pins
oh, sorry
weary root
nevermind pins redirects, didn't know that, but you'll find it in the pins in that server 
amber dagger
should I learn speedrunning
snow dome
You should run dashless Shade Cloak
Or Clawless Shade Cloak
Those sound like categories that would interest you
amber dagger
they exist. ok sure.
snow dome
Clawless Shade Cloak exists. Dashless I think got invented like yesterday
steady lynx
Dashless you can even leave the abyss afterwards
sweet mulch
Dashless clawless shade cloak when
vagrant turtle
Is there a world record run yet for dashless clawless or is literally that new
sweet mulch
Dashless clawless doesn't exist, it was a joke
tribal igloo
Have 104 hours can’t speedrun how can you do it in a week
vagrant turtle
I don't rlly speedrun hollow knight, just interested in the community tbh
cyan girder
I don't rlly speedrun hollow knight, just interested in the community tbh
Fair enough, it's an interesting community. Beware of spoilers though if you haven't seen everything though. It's worthwhile to see for yourself I believe.
night sedge
Dashless clawless doesn't exist, it was a joke
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
plucky moss
np
south herald
Thanks for ping
plucky moss
ilfx
hidden dune
slim geyser
This server is low key a mess
mystic forum
lots of cs:go scammers lately
snow dome
That's what happens when you have like 100,000 people
south herald
it’s not a server thing
slim geyser
The active mods here (cough not me cough) bust their ass to keep it sane
mystic forum
its upsetting because a lot of those accounts are stolen
south herald
it’s really not funny
knotty vigil
Hey, is low percent patch 1432 possible ?
Just wondering cus I am interested in doing it
snow dome
If you check speedrun dot com forward slash hollow knight you can see all the categories and patches
knotty vigil
Will check
true palm
Just wondering cus I am interested in doing it
yes
i am in fact the resident world record holder for the cursed category
basically just do what 1221 does but Uumuu is ass, you can't do spire skip, and then you should shade skip instead of epogo
haughty fossil
nah just do the epogo 🙂 its not that much harder right 🙂
true palm
for sure, i mean i got it first try in rekky right? its not like its so cursed i'd only gotten one other run past it in 60 attempts 
knotty vigil
I managed to do the pogo but I wasn't high enough, I still need to practice dark deepnest
true palm
the epogo is hard because 99% of the time you will be so close to being over the ledge that you could argue you should be on the ledge
its that tiny little distance thats absolutely miserable
knotty vigil
So shade skip is better ?
knotty vigil
Alright ^^
true palm
if you join the discord in the pinned comments, i'd be happy to answer any low% questions there, i dont check this one that often
but before i go let me link you the shade skip
knotty vigil
Sure
true palm
https://youtu.be/cy5rymQb9Gc?t=905 this run does it well
so make sure that after ogres you take this bench
save enough soul for a fireball, go up, and then fireball skip to the leg eater bench
knotty vigil
I did ^^
true palm
perfect
knotty vigil
It was like, not wanting to do Queen station dashless
But I'm getting consistent with that one so I am happy
true palm
that comes with time for sure
knotty vigil
I guess ^^
true palm
are you controller or keyboard?
knotty vigil
I use controller
Either because I play the switch version or pc and still on controller
true palm
have you heard of clawgrip?
true palm
k so basically your dpad input overrides your analog, so you can hold right on analog and tap left on dpad and instantly turn around in queens
you hold your controller really weird, almost like a claw for that
hence claw grip
you sacrifice comfort for consistency
true palm
its definitely not for everyone but back when i ran low% on controller thats what i did
the other tip i wanted to mention, since you were on darknest, is besides turning on and off lantern with debug to practice, is that since you're on current patch, all the spiders are always in the same spot
so as long as you find a way you like moving through deepnest, if you do it the same way theres no rng
knotty vigil
is there an all grub spedrun
rotund jackal
yes it's called elegy%, there's a leaderboard for it at speedrun.com/hkmemes
sleek comet
are there any guides for any% console (i only have switch version and i dont want to spend more money)
digital jewel
the console route isn't any different from PC current patch
sleek comet
this would me so easier if i had mods
im trying to do greenpath vs skip and itrs so painful getting soul
snow dome
Get mods then!
If you check the downpatching guide on Speedrun.com you can see how to make two separate installs.
At that point you can mod one, get Debug and practice.
FPS affects a few things. I'm not sure about any attack speeds etc, but I know that Follies and Vengelies in particular are incredibly fast at higher fps
I've had them move faster than me
sleek comet
Get mods then!
cant, only have switch version
sleek comet
i might just do the pogo instead
snow dome
Squit Pogo Vs Fireball skip only saves like... 5s at most?
If you do them both to a reasonable standard, anyway
Everybody messes them up sometimes, though
You should cap to like 288 fps
I know some people play higher, up to like 400, but it's to do with things like making it a multiple of your refresh rate and not overusing your CPU/GPU
Heckarooni
Cap your fps yo
I've never had over like 400. I cap at 300 now.
fickle nymph
dotnet
west matrix
anyone have a guide on how to beat the game under 5 hrs?
true palm
?srpsa
sick ravenBOT
Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602
true palm
oh no problem, good luck with the achievements
west matrix
yep
i did speed completion accidentaly on 3rd playthrough
11hrs
so shouldnt be too harsd
true palm
none of the achievements are overly difficult
old brook
did qga in a run :)
analog monolith
wait woa
elfin vortex
Great time! Pulling off qga in a run is a really cool feeling
old brook
it was funny i got it first try and proceeded to then get hit 3 times in the arena
haughty fossil
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south herald
Thanks for ping
vale widget
bruh yall dontwant free games smh
wicked hearth
What was that?
haughty fossil
csgo skin scam bot
gentle kernel
when submitting a run, can we just put in the in game time for time with loads or do we have to find it in livesplit?
haughty fossil
must be from livesplit, if you didn't use livesplit then just put in the RTA time
gentle kernel
ok, how would we find the real time in livesplit?
sorry this is my first time submitting a run
haughty fossil
no worries, in the Edit Splits... window there are multiple tabs for Real Time and Game Time
you can get the final time of your pb from there in both loadless and RTA
haughty fossil
if you like, you can also add a second timer to your layout and set that to compare to RTA, so the RTA is also included in the video (not required, but i find it makes it easier to have all the details in one place for a submission)
gentle kernel
that makes a lot of sense, i might do that
i removed splits from being visible in my format, that's also fine right?
i figured it would be, the timer still pauses during load times
i just found myself comparing constantly for each split, felt it was demotivating a lot of the time
hearty adder
splits are for your own gain, they aren't a requirement no
gentle kernel
ok cool, thanks
i got a 46:00 time in any%, wanna get top 200 but i'm proud enough of this run to submit in the meantime
thanks a bunch for all the help, makes the process a lot easier!
graceful kestrel
able to record for 46 minute straight
i have a pretty decent time but my pc too bad to record
i think it was less than 1 hour
tall prawn
Whats like a good way to use a timer if i play on switch
haughty fossil
phone timer works fine, the time as submitted will be taken directly from the recording in any case by the verifier
Livesplit One is fully cross-platform and will allow you to set up splits similar to as if you were running on PC, so you can see how your pace compares across the whole run
tall prawn
ok so im allowed to just have a phone off on the side and just submit the run by itself
haughty fossil
yeah, a verifier will manually retime to make sure the RTA time is correct from the right start and end points
tall prawn
Cool, once i finish HoG and pantheons and stuff, imma try some runs
sharp bramble
I'm new to speedrunning hollow knight and have a question, is the final hollow knight split on live split called "Hollow knight practice"?
BTW i am playing all skills
haughty fossil
no, the autosplitter will end on any game ending without needing an autosplit event
hk practice is different and will split too early
sharp bramble
k thx
full blaze
i frikin hate crystal peaks
it makes me wanna legit
die
ive lost so many frikin runs to it
and i wanna die
like how do you go fast through it
its a bunch of lasers you have to wait for
and when i go fast i die
ima have to go slow af and i dont get it how ppl do it so perfect
snow dome
Lots of practise and very specific and precise movements
quaint grove
Whats like a good way to use a timer if i play on switch
For a phone split I’d recommend FramePerfect
You can download it from App Store
slim geyser
like how do you go fast through it
I highly recomend you look at either a guide or a top speedrun and focus on every individual movement that is made.
peaks are hard because it's all cycle based, meaning every jump, every dash, can matter in at least 3 rooms
stable flint
ima have to go slow af and i dont get it how ppl do it so perfect
It’s all about learning the cycles. There’s specific movement we do to zoom thru as fast as possible. It takes practice to learn, but makes it a lot safer. Check fireborns any % guide
I actually like those rooms for the complete lack or rng
normal aspen
Pogaxe god cycle key room are like the most fun 3 rooms to IL tho it's really fun to get down
sage quiver
like how do you go fast through it
Take it patiently and safely at first; you don't have to go through as quickly as the veteran runners. And there's nothing wrong with taking some extra time to gather soul and heal. I like to gather enough for one or two spells before the dark room. Killing the hunters (or at least the first one) makes it much less stressful
full blaze
its like the platforming on the way to crystal heart
i always rush
and die
i just want a sub 1 hour time
and im satisfied
which i know i can do
sage quiver
Try not to underplat. It's more for swag points and only saves half a second (maybe a full second if you do the dash slash one as well)
And again, there's nothing wrong with taking a few extra seconds for safety
It's also absolutely okay to safety bench at the dark room. Better to backtrack to spire than from it
sage quiver
Welcome~ and ask away
cerulean gust
i wanted to downpatch
following this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44HBxzC_RTg
but the download doesnt start and it says Insufficient privileges to get access token for app 367521
i wanted to start speedrunning :((((
sage quiver
I downloaded/installed 1221 separately
cerulean gust
how?
sage quiver
Follow the link that says Multiple Installed Patches
cerulean gust
k
sage quiver
If you can't get it to work, there are plenty of CP runners and routes/tech specific to it
cerulean gust
but when i download steam patcher
i have to put the download_depot 367520 367521 648876203478229944 code there or in the Window+R console?
(sry for the bad eng im italian)
ah wait
im stupid lmao
k it worked
thx :DDDD
elfin vortex
like how do you go fast through it
I am very very late to respond but practise each room individually in debug. Helps alot and once u stuff like godroom and cdash room down it becomes fine
jade tulip
why did you block me @torpid forge
digital jewel
find a different channel for this
weary root
Not sure, most people speedrun pantheons rather than individual bosses. You could look at what sort of times people have on P1 False Knight.
coral mantle
Im no expert but that appears to be good since i tried and got like 45 seconds
radiant pumice
I'm looking to start speedruning hollow knight, is it worth it to downpatch now or should I just do any% on the current patch and switch when I get better?
haughty fossil
you can spend all your time on current patch if you want. they're definitely very different to handle, i wouldn't start on one with the mind to move to another
snow dome
If you think you're ever going to do 1221, just go for it now.
radiant pumice
I do want to eventually but I'm thinking of getting ok at current patch first because I'm working on a 112% save at the same time that I'm learning how to speedrun
toxic breach
so I know there's a "talk to elderbug" speedrun
but is there a "talk to every npc except elderbug" speedrun
haughty fossil
there actually isn't 😤
elderbug% (good category) is a run to give the delicate flower to elderbug, there are already several runs (king's pass ILs and menderbug%) that end around the point where you could talk to elderbug for the first time
narrow hamlet
im trying to learn the all spells route i can do dark room in peak for d dark but not in deep nest i was thinking to get relics for geo by going to kingdoms edge early for the relic by bench near hornet, i would get the relic above kings station and the egg in abyss, i would do edge right after basin so i can get hornet and the rest of the route should be the same i think unless if i dont have enough geo for moto
strong vessel
It's definitely worth it to just learn the deepnest dark rooms instead of getting lantern
narrow hamlet
ok
strong vessel
But if you really want to get lantern, it would be better to get the soul master, king's station, well, and acid bridge seals
(But that doesn't matter because the dark rooms are fairly easy and consistent)
narrow hamlet
are dark rooms easyer then i think
haughty fossil
yeah the only real tricky bit in all skills darknest is the first half of room 1, after that there are consistent lineups for everything
narrow hamlet
ok thanks for letting me know
low ridge
I cut it fucking close in my steel soul run, 4hrs ans 55mins 
But i got speedrun II
I was gonna get speed completion and steel heart but traitor lord said no
serene dust
hey so uh the modded practice install dont work
haughty fossil
if you have made a separate install did you remember to add steam_appid
serene dust
yeah
haughty fossil
screenshot the folder?
serene dust
screenshot the folder?
1221 or debug folder?
haughty fossil
debug
serene dust
haughty fossil
does the Modding API text show up in the top left when you launch the game?
haughty fossil
ok, can you show the cotnents of hollow_knight_data?
serene dust
haughty fossil
sorry, managed in there 🥴 i forget stuff
serene dust
haughty fossil
what's the file size of Assembly-Csharp.dll?
haughty fossil
that should be working then, are you sure the steam_appid is correct?
haughty fossil
yeah, with just that text
serene dust
yeah that's it
haughty fossil
try this assembly-csharp file instead maybe
serene dust
haughty fossil
just verifying you are relaunching the game every time?
haughty fossil
(and checking you're launching the correct install)
serene dust
?
haughty fossil
that is not your debug install folder
haughty fossil
nw 
haughty fossil
switch pro con?
wasn't supported before 1.4, you'll have to use a compatability layer like JoyToKey to get it to work
(assume similar for other brands of controller that also share the same behaviour 
)
serene dust
switch pro con?
yeah
and fuck
ok
can you just get it to register as an xinput or something
serene dust
even my xbox one controller dont work
true palm
joy2key
@serene dust
or you can rename your hollow knight folders to make it your default install
if you just rename the folder to "Hollow Knight" thats the one steam launches, giving it controller support
so for instance if i wanted to play 1221 i'd rename "hollow knight 1221" to "hollow knight" and "hollow knight" to something else
the keys to making this work is to make sure you launch it from steam and that all these are in your /steamapps/common folder
robust scroll
Does anyone know how to downpatch to version 1.2.2.1 for mac because I want to start speedrunning.
solar coyote
Current patch any% nmg
robust scroll
I don't want to do current patch sry
solar coyote
Get a different computer
robust scroll
No
solar coyote
Current patch any% nmg
elfin vortex
I don't want to do current patch sry
You'll have to run windows via bootcamp then. Can be done unlike what memine said but can take a while to do and your only able to switch to bootcamp if your on an intel chip mac
digital jewel
#speedrunning message
This person managed to downpatch on mac. I wouldn't be able to help
elfin vortex
I'd still recommend bootcamp tbh cuz theres no autosplitter for mac
short spire
yeah, even if you do manage to downpatch on mac you won't be able to get a loadless time to properly compete on the boards as dyst0p mentioned
sweet musk
i want to start speedrunning hollow knight 106% (my first category) and i dont know if i should start learning the older or newer strat, anyone know what i should do?
steady lynx
Start with the newer strats
sweet musk
is there a reason like its easyer or just cuz its better to know
steady lynx
Generally because it's faster
sweet musk
k thx
knotty vigil
hello
prime python
quick question: what does NSOOB mean?
ionic cargo
no storage out of bounds
ionic cargo
its means you aren't allowed to storage to go out of bounds
steady lynx
We mostly abandoned NSOOB once main menu storage was found
prime python
hm ok
spare knoll
Do i have to downpatch to speedrun the game or is their a updated patch category?
haughty fossil
yeah
spare knoll
cool thanks
lunar warren
i just downpatched my game, does anyone know why when i save and quit it doesnt let me attack until i rebind it
true palm
if you're using mouse to attack, you'll need to download blue.exe in resources, which changes your mouse keys to keyboard keys
lunar warren
thank you
true palm
no problem 
lunar warren
I noticed a few things after downpatching my game and I wanted to know if they were normal or not. for one there is a small blue pixel towards the top of the screen (no this isnt my monitor, its only in this game). and 2, when breaking the wall after false knight its abnormally loud. I wanted to know if these things are normal or that i somehow corrupted bits of my game when downpatching. sorry for all the questions, im new to running this game.
stuck raptor
the loud wall is b/c the in game sliders don't work
so keep them at 9-10 and turn down your game externally
primal mist
narrow hamlet
is there a full route with a map of all spells current patch nmg
haughty fossil
no map for all skills, but to be honest the video guide + having splits is probably all you need to get started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCXH-ajD9Dk&list=PLe3Nyw-0gXJpBqG9qLRx195qLFI3FD3_N
narrow hamlet
ya im just worried that im not able to find a few things or miss something lol
young stag
41 min speed run
vital geyser
ya im just worried that im not able to find a few things or miss something lol
imo if you cant find one for the route, make your own route notes. you can tailor the information to what you need, and by making one, you are writing down the route which lets your brain remember it in another way other than just reading/watching.
just watch the world record run and copy down key details and also make sure to try to recognize why they are doing something rather than just accepting it
narrow hamlet
why did i just not do that
weary root
I noticed a few things after downpatching my game and I wanted to know if they w...
the blue pixel will be fixed if you change your resolution to 1080p or lower
fallen remnant
analog monolith
what
harsh steeple
hey i would like to get into speed running for hk and i have read the rules and that kind of thing im just wandering where should i start? and if occasionally the game drops frames by a lot and goes straight back up in a second would that be a problem???
snow dome
Frame rate drops are only an issue if they either create dodgy in-game stuff (like killing Baldurs in fewer hits) or if they render the video unwatchable or unverifiable.
If it's a few frames here and there, especially when specific things are happening, it's fine. During my first submission my THK fight had pretty huge lag spikes every couple of seconds, and that was accepted.
harsh steeple
Frame rate drops are only an issue if they either create dodgy in-game stuff (li...
ohh ok i think i could probably get away with it it doesn't cause any problems like enemies taking less hits or anything but some times it can got from like 100fps to 17 and back to 120fps in a matter of a second
only occasionally
snow dome
Essentially if it's infrequent it will be alright.
But if you submit a 32:XX any% time tomorrow it might look a little suspicious. 😉
harsh steeple
wdym??? if i get wr in a day it would be susicous??? i mean i guess it would but i dont think ill get it anytime soon but i would like a decent time 🙂
snow dome
I'm sure you will do. If you want to talk more about speedrunning you might want to check the pinned messages. There's a separate discord that we use for proper discussion now.
lunar warren
the blue pixel will be fixed if you change your resolution to 1080p or lower
Thank you a bunch
harsh steeple
I'm sure you will do. If you want to talk more about speedrunning you might want...
ty i will join that
sleek comet
is explosion pogo possible on switch
wicked trench
Yes
There should be a tutorial pinned in #strats, otherwise you'll find some tutorial on YouTube, or you can watch some runs on the Current Patch leaderboard to see how it's done 👍🏼
clever fable
I just noticed tonight that the speedrun mod was a thing, I assume literally everyone is using it along with the Chinese text option?
slim geyser
I just noticed tonight that the speedrun mod was a thing, I assume literally eve...
speedrun mod?
For runs to be submitted to Speedrun.com the game must be unmodded
clever fable
I saw this in the readme collection pin
slim geyser
this is a pin in a modding channel?
clever fable
Yeah and a few runs I’ve seen today involved things like the dreamer text not popping up after acquiring the mothwing cloak and assumed it was due to that mod being active
So was curious if people were using it or if I’m missing something here
slim geyser
no it's not due to modding, it's due to people downpatching the game to an older patch
only a couple mods are allowed, mainly one that changes how directional inputs work for keyboard, and another that allows for mouse binding to work on older patches
a third mod is used to extend load times but that is only for races or major glitch related categories since it offers no benefits in normal NMG speedruns
clever fable
Ahh gotcha, well thank you for the info :3 much appreciated
slim geyser
no problem. FYI current patch speedrunners simply run without the old speedtech
clever fable
I see, I shall do some more research into those current patch runs then!
haughty fossil
run 1.4.3.2 we have our own scuffed speed tech that TC decided to remove in 1.5 
hearty adder
That is using inventory storage to scream skip
It's not usable in a nmg ruleset due to using inventory storage, which is a huge source to other glitches
main mist
That is using inventory storage to scream skip
thanks
hearty adder
Another way of scream skipping that's usable on a nmg ruleset is just damage-tanking with precise timing
However that's probably not useable in your case, lol
It's always fun to find glitches on your own though 
mortal spear
has anyone done an all charms speedrun? that sounds like itd be fun to route
not 112%, just all charms
snow dome
All Charms was brought up kind of recently but it's extremely close to the 1xx% categories.
The only main things it wouldn't require are dreamers, pale ore, and Colos.
mortal spear
some skills, too
snow dome
It does most other things, as you still need 1,800 essence.
mortal spear
like ddark, shade soul, etc
snow dome
Yeah, you don't need spells
But you would get Abyss Shriek or Shade Soul for sure because you have to do like Trailer Lord and a bunch of dream stuff
mortal spear
true
snow dome
Shade Soul might be the best option
So it lands somewhere between True Ending and 1XX%
mortal spear
i also had the idea of a hall of gods speedrun but thats just harder p5 so
snow dome
And for category length you kind of go:
Any% <1h -> All Skills 1h-1h30 -> True Ending 1h30m-2h -> 106% >2h -> 112% >3h
HoG speedrun is a challenge I know some people do as a stream redemption thing/affiliate celebration, but it's obviously not on the boards. It's extremely punishing, and takes ages 😅
mortal spear
yeah because im sure Radiant Gruz Mother (Any% WR) is a very popular speedrun
analog monolith
i await the day someone runs rhog pbo
floral kite
low% true ending 
true palm
pretty sure theres someone running it on twitch rn, gonna break the record by a few hours
cyan forum
ive been practicing watcher knights with just shamen stone for most of today and have only beaten them once, anyone have tips?
true palm
are you killing the first knight before the other two spawn?
cyan forum
75% of the time
stuck raptor
Take a break. Practice more later
true palm
first of all, take breaks ye, you can move on to other parts of the run
cyan forum
ok thx
true palm
and second you should focus on just practicing the first knight until you kill it every time before the other two spawn
cyan forum
ok thank you, i really appreciate it
true palm
it 1)makes the fight easier when they have synced spawns and 2) shows that you understand the damage rotation
watchers are a bitch, but you can get the hang of it
good luck!
cyan forum
thanks so much
true palm
also crystal peaks is really fun to learn, which comes up next
cyan forum
yeah i thought it would be best to learn that part first so when i do start running my runs dont instantly end
true palm
cpeak is pretty much you make the cycle or you don't
but it feels rewarding when you hit it, its probably my favorite part of any%
cyan forum
ok it sounds really fun cant wait to get to that part
digital jewel
pretty sure theres someone running it on twitch rn, gonna break the record by a ...
no I think it's segmented
true palm
its segmented, but wasn't skurry's also segmented?
ionic cargo
yes
true palm
like its not on official run so there's not an official record
digital jewel
oh true
true palm
i think the only mad lad to leave a run on that long was Veruleans low% NSOOB
that one wasn't segmented iirc
digital jewel
it wasn't
it was on the leaderboards even
and wr at the time
and then ax accidentally discovered HOOB and I beat wr by like 94 hours lol
stuck raptor
the biggest WR bop in speedrunning history.
last inlet
can't wait for the any% run that beats the game 93 hours before the game starts
hearty adder
Some controllers didn't work on older versions of the game. You can either use Steam's controller support to use it in the game, or download a program like joy2key that will bind your controller inputs to keyboard inputs
digital jewel
try replicating these settings
true palm
well if ur on 1221 and havent launched it as default install steam controller support isnt enabled
you'll need to put all your HK installs into your default steam install folder like this
any time you want to play, just rename the version to "Hollow Knight" and then launch with steam
you should see the steam overlay pop up
serene dust
try replicating these settings
this works
true palm
oh nice
serene dust
is there any way to use the switch pro controller
serene dust
i tried that
true palm
do what i showed with the renamed folders
serene dust
I'm a little confused
serene dust
that's it?
true palm
yup
true palm
when you want to play a different version
you can't have multiple copies named Hollow Knight
true palm
rename your 1221 install to "Hollow Knight 1221" and rename your vanilla to "Hollow Knight"
serene dust
so if i rename my 1221 to just Hollow Knight what happens to my vanilla that i have to rename it
true palm
and then when you want to go back to 1221 youd rename your vanilla to "Hollow Knight Vanilla" and 1221 to "Hollow Knight"
ye
true palm
the other thing is you need to launch the game via steam
and not the executable in the folder
true palm
i just tack mod at the end of the name
serene dust
just do the same thing?
true palm
ye
when you wanna play modded rename it to Hollow Knight, when ur done i just rename it to Hollow Knight XXXX mod, where XXXX is the patch
true palm
yup
serene dust
ah
true palm
i'd recommend you pin your steam common folder to quick access or create a shortcut to it on your desktop if you opt into this method
serene dust
mk
true palm
it does work well though once its setup, i used to do it for my generic controller
true palm
so basically, Steam controller support only works with Steam games right?
ur tricking steam into thinking that 1221 is the normal copy of the game
Steam launches whatever is the "Hollow Knight" folder
the reason Xero's thing worked for your Xbox controller was most likely steam was interfering with the controller support, but in the case of your pro controller we're using Steam to be helpful instead of inconvenient
serene dust
that's so weird
but it makes sense i guess
only reason i wanted to use pro controller was because the port on my xbox controller is fucked
true palm
makes sense
the only thing to watch out for is that if they patch 1.5 again Steam might try to override whatevers in the Hollow Knight folder
so turn off Auto updates just in case
true palm
serene dust
thank
true palm
if an update comes out, just rename your vanilla install to "Hollow Knight" and that will be what steam overrides
if you never want to use 1.5, or just wait, you can also opt into the 1432 beta
since this won't be updated ever
anyways sorry steams a pain in the ass, good luck with the runs
true palm
no problem, i wish all of this was simpler, but Team Cherry and Steam like to keep us on our toes lol
serene dust
yeah
tall prawn
I should speedrun elegy
clever fable
TIL while practicing VFK that you can get permanently stuck in "being screamed at" animation if he dies on the same frame that he screams :v
true palm
a bunch of bosses have softlocks ye
thk can just take literally forever to load (you have to close your game)
any enemy can be invisible
if you kill hornet on the gate she won't die
vital geyser
i mean, hornet never dies :)
cyan forum
Yoooo ive been getting down to two knight constitantly thank you cynicism for the advice btw
haughty fossil
thk can just take literally forever to load (you have to close your game)
fun fact: this can actually happen on any load
have fun sleeping on that one 
hearty adder
I actually had an inf load today on strim on the room before false knight 
love this game
clever fable
is there a map/document out there that has the any% nmg route along with geo thresholds and spending checkpoints through the run?
snow dome
The any% route guide on speedrun.com is very in depth, even including a detailed map.
clever fable
oh cool, i'll check it out there, thanks (:
snow dome
If you want more information, check the invite in the pinned message. You'll get a lot more out of that.
clever fable
will do, cheers :3
echo aspen
pain
steady lynx
Say hi to midwife from us
echo aspen
idk how she would react to the pandemic so let her be for now
prime python
so, what does inventory dropping into the well at crossrads REALLY do? all speedrunners do this, and i do it too but i just dont know what is does lol
digital jewel
inv dropping into the well?
you really shouldn't do that, it's slower than jumping in
actually I'm not sure inv dropping is any faster than dropping normally
prime python
huh ok
dull gazelle
I thought inv dropping is for preventing knight falling too hard
Without inv dropping, knight will take time to get up
quiet saddle
is there a map/document out there that has the any% nmg route along with geo thr...
I made a Doc with basic checkpoints for the any% NMG route a while back as well
quaint grove
I thought inv dropping is for preventing knight falling too hard
Pausing and opening inv is slower than just taking the hard fall
digital jewel
there's no hardfall in the well
untold sigil
there's a variant of qga without cdash
snow dome
Oh I have one of those
untold sigil
requiring wings, dash, spell twister, and 2 soul vessels
untold sigil
without wall cling storage
grim vector
Are people gonna make fun of me if i am really unreasonably happy about a 1h2m PB?
Serious question
hearty adder
Nobody's gonna make fun of you for your pb
and if they do you shouldn't talk to them anymore
grim vector
I could use help actually figuring out the time for my run tbh... Livesplit didn't skip loading times...
I don't wanna sound silly or anything
hearty adder
I'm assuming you're playing on pc?
grim vector
Yes
vital geyser
go into livesplits and change tabs to in game time
grim vector
I finished my very first run today lol
grim vector
Oh the ingame time is the actual time without loads?
vital geyser
yeah
grim vector
So 1 hour 1 minute and 40 seconds I guess
grim vector
Thats what it said at the end
Yeah haha
Thank you very much
Idk about the milliseconds
Do I HAVE to know?
hearty adder
If you notice the timer stopping during loading screens and restarting once a room has loaded, then it's loadless time
hearty adder
Oh the ingame time is the actual time without loads?
ah, i thought by this you meant the option in livesplit
grim vector
I'm not a smartt man
hearty adder
the timer at the end isn't quite loadless, it's really weird and not really effective for verification
hearty adder
Do I HAVE to know?
to get this question out of the way, the vast majority of categories don't need miliseconds
you can quickly go to a category's board and see if miliseconds are listed there; if they aren't then you're good
vital geyser
you have your pb saved in livesplits right
grim vector
I closed livesplit
vital geyser
reopen it
grim vector
Yes
vital geyser
right click on it
find "compare against" and on the bottom check in game time
your the hollow knight split is your final time
oh wait that might be wrong
grim vector
wth it says 56:21minutes
vital geyser
heyyy nice
vital geyser
no that is most likely correct
if you look at even just 35 minute runs, the time difference is already 5 minutes
and your run is 1 hr sooo
grim vector
wooow
vital geyser
GOOD JOB!
snow dome
Sub hour pog
If you're timer was on real time when recording, sadly it will have to be submitted as such
But honestly this will not be close to the best time you can get right now
If you want to get more involved, check the pinned message
hearty adder
Just do another run with the loadless timer up for an easy leaderboard pb
snow dome
If you're timer was on real time when recording, sadly it will have to be submit...
That's what this means, you can only submit your run as the time that is shown in the video.
You can submit it if you want, but you won't have game time.
grim vector
Oh...
snow dome
Honestly, you will be underestimating yourself. You're only just starting, and you got sub hour straight away. You'll get a much better time really, really easily.
grim vector
This was the best run I have ever done though
But well yeah I will keep on trying
Those are really dissapointing news tbh
knotty vigil
hi im trying the 5 hour achievement for the first time and im following fireb0rns thing
but why does it say save zote
is it necessary
grim vector
but why does it say save zote
For the geo
knotty vigil
oh
if i dont and just get it from other places is that fine
cuz i also want the achievement
grim vector
Well if you need to get both at once sure?
knotty vigil
okay thank u bro
grim vector
But beating the vengefly king is the quickest way to make a lot of geo quickly
sick ravenBOT
Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602
knotty vigil
ya i was just wondering if it was necessary for sub 5 hours or whatever
ill just get a couple geo rocks
grim vector
Honestly, you will be underestimating yourself. You're only just starting, and y...
So um... do I just not submit my run to speedrun.com?
Or at least not include the loadless time?
lusty scroll
if you didnt record loadless with livesplit just leave that part blank if you want to submit
some people submit every pb, some submit barely any, its up to you
i submit big milestones to see a 'timeline' of sorts
grim vector
Yeah the time is not on video so I'll submit it and just leave out in-game time I guess
Pending now
grim vector
i got a sub 40
Woahhh amazing!!!
grim vector
Different how?
wraith lance
i get an extra mask and shade soul
grim vector
cus i suck
Still faster than my very best
hearty adder
Hey hey, getting sub 40 is pretty sick especially with an extra mask and shade soul added in
wraith lance
and wraiths
hearty adder
nobody sucks
wraith lance
thx
hearty adder
you just play how you feel the most comfy and that's alright
wraith lance
ye
shut beacon
U've beaten my best time by over 20 mins and I tried to follow the route lol